industrial-professions

[shell wren]

You got think about people who play solo tho

[hollow sedge]

sometimes ill find 3 30% rocks

[simple river]

As in a group of quant rocks not just 1 rock

[hollow sedge]

i play solo

[simple river]

Learn to scout

[shell wren]

Learn to mine other stuff

[hollow sedge]

yeah but

why

[simple river]

Why would I pay to mine stuff?

[shell wren]

How are you paying to mine?

[simple river]

Fuel

And ur time

[balmy linden]

Don't let us stop you

[simple river]

If I'm not making 300k-500k and hour I'm wasting my time and I'm paying

[fair slate]

you would make less than if you found 1 quant rock

[shell wren]

But you have help

[shell wren]

Go mine solo and see how that fairs

[hollow sedge]

mining solo isnt that bad lol

[fair slate]

Right, easily doable. Whether its ERTs, Bunkers, or Mining this is possible

[simple river]

So if I make 250k I paid 50k trash mineables make what? 40k an hour? I'm essentially "paying" 200k and hour to mine garbage

[round current]

ive mined solo ive found 5 quant rocks in hr

[simple river]

I'm alone 95% of the time

[shell wren]

Who are you paying 50k too???

[simple river]

?

[balmy linden]

@shell wreni mine solo all the time and have 8 million, after buying a MSR, M2, Retaliator and several other ships. If you cant make money solo mining I don't know what to tell you.

[fair slate]

This

[simple river]

He stupid or something, ok I'm off to work bye

[balmy linden]

I have paid scouts 100k for a good rock too and still made a fortune.

[hollow sedge]

is the 400i any good for selling quant

or should i get a dedicated hauler

[round current]

easy mine quant earn 200k mine shit minerals earn 5k-10k per run

[shell wren]

You said you paid 50k for trash minerals

[round current]

i bought myself a freelancer max at my cargo

[hollow sedge]

i would get one but i think they are so ugly looking

[round current]

you earn 50k of trash mineral in that 1hr you could find the 1 quant rock and earn 200k

i got it just for the the storage of 122scu

[hollow sedge]

how much does msr have?

id get one of those

[verbal cargo]

114scu

[balmy linden]

MSR holds about 4 work orders worth

[hollow sedge]

that works

how much is it in game

[balmy linden]

4.9 ?

[verbal cargo]

4.9m

[hollow sedge]

damn

[balmy linden]

or get a Taurus for a lot less

like 3.2 mill

[hollow sedge]

does that have the small ship like the other connies

[balmy linden]

not sure

[round current]

the freelancer is 2.18 M

[fair slate]

dont really need that small ship tbh

[balmy linden]

wanna say no but it holds more cargo

[hollow sedge]

yeah but its cool

[balmy linden]

than other connies

[round current]

freelancer Max is that

[fair slate]

true, good scout ship

[round current]

you i got it its cheaper than other ships but hold a little more

[shell wren]

Whats the minimum percentage of quant you guys mine? Like what percentage of quant do you guys ignore a rock

[shy crane]

I ignore the 2-3%

[fair slate]

Aim for 30% minimum but if you're mining in a prospector

[balmy linden]

30 is kinda high

[fair slate]

25% is good up to 4800

[hardy mesa]

I aim for 15+

[fair slate]

Ah, well I pay 3-4 people to scout at 50% of mineables

[balmy linden]

15% and up is worth it

[shell wren]

See i only ever find 2-10% and thats including clusters

[hardy mesa]

I'll grab 10s if I'm having bad luck

[shell wren]

Like I feel you have to be blessed by rng to be making the money you guys are

[hardy mesa]

I found a guy last night had a 90% he couldn't mine

[halcyon brook]

Everyone seen patch notes for PTU? Mineables should now be scannable! 😁😁

[shell wren]

How much is quant worth per scu

[shy crane]

if I have the time I'll do 2-3% if there's a cluster....if I'm trying to be quick I don't bother until 20-30%

but it's weird ....I was mining the belt and having almost zero luck with quant....tried Lyria and was finding cluster after cluster......so I just switched back to the belt and found almost no quant....but I got almost a full load of Laranite so.....go figure

I only say that because I've heard the exact opposite from others

[shell wren]

Hand mineable should be allowed to be refined

[fair slate]

wanna be a scout?

[shell wren]

Im at work right now but if youre on still in 2 hours I gotchu

[shell wren]

How much you paying scouts?

[round current]

i have found 4 45%+ rocks in the belt last night

highest was a 49.06% rock last night

[earnest tendon]

FPOV will be selling rocks tonight in about 6 hours from now.

PM To get access to the store.

[fair slate]

Selling rocks?

[fair slate]

atm 50% of the haul

way to much

just to keep money rolling

The change from 4500m to 1350m is pretty fuckin whack so I'm tryin to make the money I'll need in 3.17 since I will dial back gameplay as a result of the change

[shell wren]

Are you dialing back as a way to protest ?

[gray bolt]

so i cant select my ship from the trading kiosk , welp

[shell wren]

Do you have it on the pad?

What ship is it?

[gray bolt]

and stored yes im in mic l1 currently

freelancer max

[shell wren]

Recall it and park again

[gray bolt]

i was also and devlins scrap and salvage and i couldnt sell my scrap there

there wasnt a landing pad

[fair slate]

Ah.

Pay impound fee

[gray bolt]

impound fee? my ship is still here though

@shell wren that worked actually ty!

but how would it work on stations without landing pads?

[shell wren]

Best commodity to transport right now?

[north oyster]

depends on size of ship doing transport. But Titanium is popular, then other commondities like gold, diamonds, agrcium, etc

[twilit ice]

@north oyster Do you do your refined Quant deliveries in a C2, or do you do smaller batches in a Freelancer?

[north oyster]

Most of the time my Taurus but I keep the C2 ready. I use the MAX for ROC escort primarily. She's one of my favorites for that role

having a fully loaded C2 of Quan is more stress than I care to have

[twilit ice]

Ooh I didn't even see the Taurus

Next ship time

...Cause the Cutty Black, while nice, is v entry level with its ability to only hold ~1 full load

[north oyster]

Cutty isi the "swiss army knife" of SC. Good at everything, great at nothing

For price per SCU, the MAX is the most economical ship

[twilit ice]

Maybe the MAX will be a jumping point between the two

Cause the Taurus is a pretty penny

I'm just glad I don't have to rent any more Cuttys lol

[real smelt]

can you mine quan with a rental prospector ?

[north oyster]

No, too unstable

you can mine most everything else

With the new additions in 3.17, that might be an option, but we don't know yet

[real smelt]

i've been mining for an hour now and i could only find inert materials...

[nocturne coyote]

Does anyone have any advice on how to find quan in the Aaron belt better? Or should I be looking elsewhere? It takes me anywhere from 45min to an hour to find something worth mining.

[gritty mesa]

lyria is very good for quantanium

[real smelt]

is it possible for 2 lasers to fire on 1 rock so it can break?

[twilit ice]

Try belt 1, it’s been really fruitful for myself and others, or Lyria’s surface

[mossy shuttle]

Yep. That's how you can break bigger rocks with two Prospectors

[real smelt]

nice, thanks!

[earnest tendon]

Yes. Selling the location of good rocks.

[real smelt]

will quan blow up while you park your ship at a station ?

[gaunt fiber]

anyone around to help break a rock? Mass: 6687, QT: 34.75%

It’s in a cluster, with another okay rock (mass 4782, QT: 14%) and set of twins nearby with okay stats (mass 5K, QT: 14%)

[simple river]

If I mine trash minerals and sell for say 30k, and it takes 1 hour I " PAID" 250k-450k cause I could have easily made 300k-500k in 1 hour mining quant or doing something else, so YES you literally PAY to mine trash minerals TIME=MONEY always

[shell wren]

But youre not guaranteed that quant

[simple river]

Just as guaranteed as trash minerals if u know what ur doing,

[hollow sedge]

what's the biggest rock you can mine with a prospector and lancet (no modules)? And, Is it different for quantanium?

[simple river]

Not to mention I can do 1 quant run and make more money then someone doing trash minerals for 10 hours straight

And it takes maybe 45min to an hour

If u have a scout even less, and u can hire anyone to be a scout so works for solo players to higher a scout

[shell wren]

Isnt hadanite worth more tgan qaunt per unit

Than*

[simple river]

Hadanite isn't even mineable with a ship 🤣

But yes

But not per hour

[shell wren]

How so?

[simple river]

Spend 10 hours mining hadiniate I spend 45min mining quant and ill still have made more

U have mine hadinite by hand in a cave

[shell wren]

Or with a ROC on the surface

Or with a ROC in a cave

[simple river]

Forgot about the roc, won't come close to quant but is a descent option for new players with no prospector

[shell wren]

So technically if I have a team of scouts and rocs with a carrier ship and maybe another hand mining in a cave. I could essentially make more than qaunt does. Especially cause you dont have to factor the refining since hadanite isnt refinable

[simple river]

After u pay all those people u won't be left with much

I can pay a scout 50k and still make profit 250k - 450k easy in an hour

And 1 scout can keep me busy all day if they choose

And refining doesn't matter much go mining 1 day sell the next day or 2 make a few mill meanwhile u could have been mining and have another couple mill refining

[visual ravine]

hi ive only had this game for 2 days and im sitting at 60k rn is there any recommendations for jobs and ways for me to make money faster with the tiny amount of things i have?

im kind of lost atm and ive done like one or two missions that gave me 20k or so each

but those missions took me an hour each so i have no clue what to do

[simple river]

@visual ravine what ships u got?

[visual ravine]

aurora lol

[simple river]

Ok driving atm gimme 10 min and ill help ya if know one else has by then

@visual ravine so 2 options deliver packages and level up ur rep u eventually earn more like 45k is it? Something like that

Or option 2 melt ur aurora package UNLESS YOU HAVE A SPECIAL PACKAGE then don't. Otherwise ya melt it buy a mustang package with those credits same price so it's free. Then start bounty hunting, might be harder with a mustang but ya can save up and buy a better ship, not to mention AI are stupid as shit so it's not hard to do once u get the hang of fighting

[visual ravine]

how much an hour would i get if i started with those rn

[simple river]

Depends on ur rep, probably start at what is it? 4k a bounty? I forget takes like 10min or so once u know how to it, maybe a little longer with a mustang (I use a sentinel) but as ur rep increases u get harder bounties which pay more (VLRT, LRT, MRT, HRT, VHRT, ERT)
very low, low, medium, hard, etc...
I make 11k a bounty? I forget tbh at VHRT it takes me 10min ish so 60k and hour? But there is group VHRT which makes like 200k - 300k an hour? Ish group bounties pay more but u got 3 people to take out, people claim to make 500k an hour with ERT

Keep in mind u can upgrade ur ship or buy a new one before u get to harder bounties and start doing em faster

People with better info on this can be reached in #flight-combat-racing

[fair lance]

anyone looking for an extra set of hands to go mining

[visual ravine]

oh ok thanks

[simple river]

Np

[sullen anvil]

Hey anyone doing some mining?

[rigid star]

Hey everyone, I'm new at the game and just got the Cutlass Black, now I wanna get into some mining but don't know what ROC to get, my main requirement is for it to fit inside the Cutlass I have and my budget is 800k. any experienced players got any suggestions?

[gritty mesa]

just get the ROC-DS

it cost 176k

[sacred loom]

Theres no point for the DS unless your running a 2 man crew really

[brave pewter]

how long does the misc expanse take to refine?

can it refine unstable things like quantanium?

[sleek garden]

is it worth mining asteroids with a prospector if your not mining quantanium

or would mining with roc be more profitable

[vestal ravine]

I use the base 4 wheel roc in the Cutty the bigger one does not fit.

[brazen thistle]

ROC DS is not worth it.. especially if you play solo. but even with friend, i would rather took 2 basic ROCs.

• as mentioned, DS doesnt fit into cutty. But you can fit 2 basic ROCs there.
• DS has big cargo but you will get bored even before you get it half full.
• if you try to fill that big cargo of DS, it will take many hours, and longer you are out there, bigger the chance that something will go wrong.

• if you solo in DS, you will need to swap seats every time you want to mine.

[viral heath]

Do bunkers

[zenith sail]

i want the DS to be changed when the adjustments to ROC mining hit, but i dont know if it will

[viral heath]

I prefer the maxlancee over the curry for the roc carriee

[hardy mesa]

@brave pewter the expanse isn't available yet if you buy it you get a prospector as a loaner ship

[brazen thistle]

There is only one thing i dont like about cutty: when you go too fast it start to push nose down. If you are close to ground, it might cost you ship. But other than that, i like it. On the other hand, i hate freelancers "mail slot" like cockpit view. For the moment i was considering to buy maxlancer as a medium cargo ship and to carry ursa rover size vehicles around... But again i rather choosed connie taurus.

[hardy mesa]

im just waiting for the hull series to pledge a cargo ship

[brave pewter]

do you know when the concept ship goes off sale?

the misc expanse concept

[hardy mesa]

not at all since it not even out of testing so its hard to tell

[hollow sedge]

LFG mining quant

[shell wren]

Whatcha mining in?

[hollow sedge]

Misc Prospector just having issues overcharging rocks

[shell wren]

Stock model?

[simple river]

He is mining quant so uhhh probably not stock

[shell wren]

Hey man Ive mined quant in a stock model

In a rental

[rose cedar]

where is quant even found?

[sullen belfry]

If I rent an Adromeda can i use it for cargo?

[karmic socket]

Been seeing the expanse as an upgrade option in my hangar? 🤔

[karmic socket]

Yes

[random rampart]

Cargo and bounty hunting but be careful

[shadow wharf]

Looking to use someone mole for a bit 😂

[round current]

use someones Mole @shadow wharf ?

[shadow wharf]

@round current yeah someone let me use his before lmao

3 of us tryna check out a mole

[round current]

Check out a mole are you trying to mine with someone else mole?

[faint fog]

What the average pay out on a full mole after refining

[viral heath]

time to roc mine on aberdeen using the maxlancer

[serene quest]

~240k

[cerulean palm]

Looking for scanning tips. I’m soloing a Mole. Not easy. I’ve seen screen shots indicating it’s possible to scan rocks for their composition from ship’s pilots seat. That would save me going up and down to the mining head all the time to find high % quant rocks. But I can’t find a way to get that data from the scan from the pilots seat. Is it possible? I’m using v to set scanning mode, then pinging. But I don’t see the rock composition that way unless I go to the mining head seat below and scan from there.

Happy also to buddy up with others to make life easier if anyone would like to join. I’m relative beginner.

[marble crater]

it's different ranges depending on if in the Halo or on a moon surface like Lyria. Halo lets you scan from around 4km but on a moon it's not uncommon to be around 80 metres from the rock before it scans

[sullen anvil]

Hi anyone doing some mining

[karmic socket]

Anybody have any Hadanite rocks?

[north oyster]

Not sure why someone said "ROC-DS" because that will not fit in your cutty. The ROC is the only thing you'll need. (probably know this by now). Just letting you know in the new patch 3.17, ROC mining got some love and should be way more profitable than it is in 3.16 build we are in LIVE now

[limpid tiger]

does anyone have a c2 that I can borrow to test some trade runs? I'm planning on buying it but I want to see what I can do with it

[north oyster]

Best ROC combo going. The MAX makes an awesome ship to ROC mine with. Been using that since the ROC came out.

[north oyster]

No sure who though 240K aUEC was the MOLE payout LOL!! but it is more like 800K aUEC or more

[hardy mesa]

Depends what your mining but a real good run 800k+ is very easy to hit

[north oyster]

Most mining in a MOLE are on Lyria and using ARC-L1. I think the base refining penalty is 5%. A full Quantainium run will net about 91 SCU of refined ore. I do enjoy using CRU-L1 because of the 3% Quan bonus. Makes about an 8K aUEC difference for a Prospector miner like me

[viral heath]

Bought the cutty first..man it's tough roc mining with it

[hollow sedge]

My ROC aint picking up the Hadanite i mined although they fly to the beam, anyone got a solution?

[north oyster]

It's not terrible, just getting use to loading and unloading. But once you get the hang of it, you'll be in sitting pretty

[north oyster]

Try to scoop only a few stones at a time from the outer edge. Go slow

[hollow sedge]

I try, but the Hadanite is not going into cargo

[north oyster]

They are addressing this issue with 3.17. Apparently there is a storage issue and a few other "bugs" that keep it from working properly.

[hollow sedge]

I'll try relogging then

[silk ridge]

I'm kinda tempted to no longer use ARC-L1 or CRU-L1. They're camped nearly every day now and it gets super annoying and frustrating over time. Well... and Expensive of you have to pay someone to land.

[north oyster]

I've not encountered that issue at all so far, but I'm certain it will be an issue later.

[robust osprey]

anyone got any favourite areas of aberdeen for hadanite?

rented myself a roc and a cutty to grind out cash for a prospector

[north oyster]

I would recommend QT to OM-1 and dive down to the planet surface from there. Under orbital marker one it is always daytime because it is at the north pole of the planet.

that's my best tip for ROC mining

[robust osprey]

ooooh thats really usefull i crashed because of the dark once already

[north oyster]

Also! Make sure you have the Pembroke armor

[cerulean palm]

No, my point is that when I scan from the pilots seat it doesn’t provide rock % breakdown. That’s what I’m trying to do, as per images I’ve seen of rocks scanned from pilot seat. How to do?

[north oyster]

The default scan is about worthless. I suggest switching to mining mode and using that scan system there.

[cerulean palm]

Ah, not my point but never mind.

I know I can go all the way downstairs and scan from the mining seat

[marble crater]

be in scan mode then hold mouse 1 on the rock when in scanner range, for the mole on lyria for example I often have to be around 60-80metres away before it starts

[cerulean palm]

From the pilots seat?

[marble crater]

yes

[north oyster]

Oh, LOL, you're in a MOLE. Well, that's part of the process for now. And in 3.17 is seems scanning is still FUBAR

[cerulean palm]

Ha ok cool.

I will try that

Thanks

[cerulean palm]

No,there is a way to scan rock constituency from the pilots seat. I’ve seen images of it.

[north oyster]

#19 would know all the tricks, that's for sure

[cerulean palm]

I will give it a go

[north oyster]

he's a MOLE miner for some time

[robust osprey]

is a mole worth it over a prospector

[north oyster]

No, not to me

[cerulean palm]

Not as far as I can see so far. It’s a righteous pain in the ass to operate singlehanded

[hardy mesa]

im a mole miner i scan from pilot seat when im solo hit v to change to the scanner and scan away

[marble crater]

you can mine more but you have to suffer extra while doing it lol

[cerulean palm]

But with 2 persons you can crack any rock so that makes it worth while

[north oyster]

The MOLE as a team effort wins big time

[cerulean palm]

I do that but I don’t see the breakdown of rock element %’s

[robust osprey]

i got a crew of friends getting into mining, is a mole better than multiple prospectors?

[north oyster]

Well, yes and no

It's best as a multi player event, but if anyone one is on by themselves, then not so much

I think the MOLE is top notch the best multi-player process in the game at the moment

[hardy mesa]

im waiting for my expanse to be usable ingame so i dont have to return to port to refine

[north oyster]

Me too pal, me too

[frail cypress]

any scouts selling rocks in here?

[north oyster]

I have not seen any posted in the past few hrs

you can probably pay less and if you get a scout in game.

Guys posting here were demanding top coin

[frail cypress]

how much would top be?

[north oyster]

Some where demanding half the value, to me that is way overboard for a scout. I would normally offer about 50K more or less, for a find.

Then pay bonuses for good finds and or for sticking with it.

[frail cypress]

half is working a laser and running cargo escort the next day 🙂

[north oyster]

if that's part of the contract, then yeah, if they are helping with the mining process then equal share is proper, imo. Big operations also pay the scouts equal share. I was just referring to the occassional pickup game

[shell wren]

The hadanite goes in but its weird . You’ll see your cargo count going up as the rocks breaks. They will swirl around the laser for a bit

[robust osprey]

how do you sell stuff from your roc? its in my cutty but i can only see backpack and cutty storage on the sell menu

[shell wren]

Where are you?

[robust osprey]

aberdeen

[shell wren]

At a station?

[robust osprey]

HDMS norgard

[north oyster]

yes, at a station. If the outpost doesn't see the ROC, then you might need to back it out of the ship

or pull it into a crate

[shell wren]

Try driving the roc up to the station and if not put the roc the pad by itself

[robust osprey]

how do you do that?

[frail cypress]

or drive the rock out, request landing in it and store it through landing services

[shell wren]

Crates are bugged

[north oyster]

ah, ok, thx

I normally don't have an issue with the terminal seeing my ROC

[robust osprey]

backing it out worked thanks peeps ❤️

daaaaaamn 230k

[shell wren]

Yea the only way to transfer cargo from the roc is one by one and I rather unalive myself

[north oyster]

Awesome!! FTW

[hollow sedge]

The thing is that they didnt go in, i waited 2 mins for 3 Hadanite to get into cargo

[robust osprey]

i did this for a page and a half from the rock to the cutty and then i told myself never again

[shell wren]

Try turning off mining mode and switching back and forth from extrac to fracture

[north oyster]

if it's swirlling and won't go in, turn the collector off. Some gems get thrown (about 20k is what I hear, LOL)

[robust osprey]

i found that if i tried to suck too much that'd happen trying to suck up small bits at a time worked better

[shell wren]

Worse case scenario… pick it up with your hands

[north oyster]

done that before too

Pembroke does hold alot

[shell wren]

Check this out

Cave spelunking in a cutty

Also a sht ton of hadanite down herre

[sullen belfry]

How do I remove cargo from my ship without selling it?

[north oyster]

reclaim it

you loose everything

[north oyster]

wow, that's pretty crazy, was that on Aberdeen?

[faint fog]

Thank you I knew something was off with that first number

[shell wren]

Yea on aberdeen

[hollow sedge]

Can i load cargo from my ROC on my Cutlass?

[frail cypress]

eventually, one by one

[karmic socket]

Why doesn't cargo persist across sessions? Twice now I've had cargo in a ship that is docked and stored. Then had to log out and when I come back I find the ship empty?

[hollow sedge]

My ROC doesnt put the Hadanite in the cargo again, wtf is this

[north oyster]

try reclaiming it. I would encourage you to reclaim it after every one or two uses.

The ROC begins degrade on multiple fronts with normal use

[hollow sedge]

What do you mean with that?

[robust osprey]

buggy asset gets buggier over time so reset it is my guess

[hollow sedge]

I somehow fixed it

I put in some Hadanite by myself in the cargo bay and it works fine now

[north oyster]

The ROC will leave you stranded if you just keep using it for multiple runs. The coolers will fail, the laser will fail, the collection will fail, etc. So reclaim the ROC after every run or two. Pull the ROC out of the ship and park it off and away from anything. Then go and reclaim it and load it back up in your ship.

[hollow sedge]

Is it worth it for a beginner to rent a Prospector and start mining the huge things?

[balmy linden]

no

[shell wren]

You wont be able to mine some stuff cause you need upgraded lasers and you cant upgrade on a rental

[hollow sedge]

Cuz i have the feeling that ROC mining aint so profitable, went on Aberdeen for 1.5h to get 14 out of 80 μSCU of Hadanite

[bleak shell]

If you want we can both go out mining, two lasers are stronger than one. Might be able to crack some bigger rocks when teamed up you know what I'm sayin?

Been looking for someone to mine with

[shell wren]

Look for caves. Also make sure your flying under 1500 meters to be able to scan the ROC minable

[hollow sedge]

The ROC can go in caves?

[tribal imp]

3.17 increased the spawn of ROC mineables

[lapis saffron]

New player here, where can I get the the tool that lifts boxes and stuff?

[shell wren]

Hell yea

[shell wren]

Cargo center. Everus Harbor

Planet Hurston

[indigo wolf]

Mine has blown up before when I had it out for a long time

[gaunt fiber]

@lapis saffron You need the multi-purpose tool first, then you need to buy, and equip the tractor beam attachment to it. You can buy both in several locations. I know of a few (New Babbage has a kiosk in the hallway as you head towards Center Mass), the refinery shop on ARC L1 sells both, and I believe all the stations that have refineries sell them there too.

[north oyster]

Ouch, that's brutal

[north oyster]

The new patch 3.17 that will be a different story. It's awesome again

[hollow sedge]

I hope so

Mining is actually fun, but it's not worth the time atm

[idle blade]

You might have better luck on Daymar instead of aberdeen

[jovial veldt]

any routes to earn big for cargs

ive like 100k auec

but need a good route tbh

[frail plaza]

hey all o7!

this may not be the place for this but myself and a few friends are creating a spreadsheet to help miners track expenses and pay

if anyone is tech savvy, Id appreciate a second pair of eyes to double check some formulas

[north oyster]

What ship are you running? Cargo atm is totally dependent upon volume so unless you're running a C2 or a CAT, it is hardly worth it. You can make some coin, but it won't be six figure returns per trip

[jovial veldt]

im running a c2

i see whats most profitable now?

[north oyster]

in this video Jack overs every possible trade route and returns available from bottom to top.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxTYWawbvM

with only 100k on hand, I would run scrap for now

[jovial veldt]

is scarp even worth running tho

😮

[north oyster]

80k by in and 125k return

[jovial veldt]

ive been running dist

[north oyster]

yes in a C2

[jovial veldt]

thats a big prof oh my

whats the route like

its stated in the vid

?

[north oyster]

Titanium will be the better route then

No, scrap changed a little from that video

I would say try Area18 TDD to ARC-L1 for scrap

[jovial veldt]

would they take all of it in

[north oyster]

I might have overstated the scrap, but it is close to a 40k profit

[jovial veldt]

or do i have to bounce to other stations

[north oyster]

yes, scrap is easily sold

all in one stop

short hop, decent return

Don't buy the scrap at the Admin but rather the TDD

Then you sell it at the station admin

[jovial veldt]

TDD?

[north oyster]

Trade Development Division

[jovial veldt]

wait how would i access that

[north oyster]

Go to Area18, it is in the center of town at the huge globe of gears

[jovial veldt]

ah landing in a city is gonna be a pain

but aite

i'll try the route

thanks a bunch!

anyws whats profitable nowadays

[north oyster]

You can land at the space port and take a shuttle down to the planet

But ONLY for this patch, we can not do that in 3.17

The inventory is common between the low orbital station and the planet city

[north oyster]

Also in that area, on Lyria, Humbolt and Lovecraft have gold and titanium. They don't have a landing pad, so it's a little challenge to land there. if you're not confident in handling that big girl, I'd suggest not trying those. One of them has endless gold if I recall.

[shell wren]

Do you know if I mine some ore and then give my backpack to a friend. Can they go and sell the ore and bring the backpack back?

[north oyster]

No idea on this one. The gems can be transferred and because they can also be pirated, I think this is possible.. Pretty much use a large backpack, then place it on the ship then your friend picks it up. I believe there should be no problem with them selling the gems

[bold yew]

Technically, I think you could.

I am not sure it would be worth it though.

[shell wren]

Because if that works in theory I could set up a mining operation where I have a team of miners Mining hadanite and then they bring back full backpacks and swap them out for empty ones

[north oyster]

Now we are talking just Gems, not raw ore, correct?

[shell wren]

Yes

[bold yew]

I doubt it would be worth the effort. You could just have a ship that you dump the packs in, but I don't think you find enough in a single cave to make it worth it. I encourage trying though, you never know.

[shell wren]

Those caves that you can land ships have massive amounts of hadanite

[shell wren]

Just needs a team to strip it

You ever put a RoC deep in a cave and used the scanner ?

That thing lights up like christmas

[bold yew]

I might have to try that out.

[shell wren]

Plus the mining mode on the ROC shows you exactly where the rocs are

Like literally shows the outlines of the rocks

I think it could work

[gaunt fiber]

I would like to try cave mining in my ROC... although I tend to die or have all kinds of mishaps when I am near caves. Latest one was my foot got wedged between two rocks and I could not break free... had to respawn and lost everything I had collected.

[shell wren]

You’ll only be able to mine the near entrance area. Usually those large cave have a “landing area” for a ship and then narrows down to only onfoot passages

[gaunt fiber]

gotcha, I figured as much.

[shell wren]

Im about to start mining if you want to join

[gaunt fiber]

@shell wren absolutely!

[shell wren]

Add me same username

[gaunt fiber]

will do, I'm in menus now

[shell wren]

Do you have a small ship?

[gaunt fiber]

I have small and large ships (Star Runner, Freelancer Max are the two I usually use to hold my ROC

There's room for two ROCs in the Star Runner (I think) if you want a ride.

friend request sent

want to form a party and invite me? I can setup a VC for us.

[shell wren]

Yea

[gaunt fiber]

friend request (discord) sent

[spark cradle]

do you think, trading gives more money than bounty missions?

[coral flume]

Can you sell from the Rocs cargo or do you have to transfer to ship?

If Ship is there a faster way than every individual hadinite piece?

[signal shard]

You just sell off the ROC

[coral flume]

As in, land at Port Olisar, for example, and then select the Roc as your cargo location on a sales terminal?

[signal shard]

I don't think you can sell gems at major spaceports - I could be wrong. The best/most efficient way is to sell them at the moon mining station's inside the building with the red light outside

There's a terminal in there - you just choose sell, then the ROC on the menu on the left, and then whatever's in your ROC will be on the screen to sell

[opal cargo]

Can u store ur Cargo ship at orbit station and go down for selling with small ship ?

[deep vector]

Those are small and medium

[deep vector]

In 3.16 yes , 3.17 no

[gaunt fiber]

yeah - sorry

[hollow sedge]

is there any news on the cargo refactor?

[brave pewter]

How do I change targetting from Lock to Target?

in a prospector

[ripe solstice]

probably been asked a million times but is the prospector worth renting and where should i mine with it

[brazen thistle]

not really

[ripe solstice]

what should i do then because i cant seem to make any sort of money to progress to different ships

[brazen thistle]

if you wanna mine with something rented, then i would suggest rent ROC and cutlass black. Full ROC of hadenite give you around 230k, then you can buy your own. But it takes time to fill it up.
Or if you up to ship fights, do bounties, they are insanely well payed considering how easy they are. But you will need to build up your reputation to get better payed missions.

[hollow sedge]

LFG mining Quant

[pseudo grove]

Bunker missions are quick and pay 15k each mission at the start and go up from there

Plus your can rob a bunch of the bodies to get a stockpile of weapons and armor so that’s 1 less expense

[hollow sedge]

depends on how fast you are

[hollow sedge]

get good at something. its easy to get good at bounties. you're probably going to die a lot but it makes really good money when you're up to vhrt

[serene quest]

So i'm sitting in front of a rock... with no idea how to use the new mining gadgets

can't seem to get it to equip to my hands

[sacred loom]

hand mining?

you have to equip the mining fitting to a multi tool

[gaunt fiber]

I'm going to be doing some ROC mining... giving it another try after several failed attempts. If anyone wants to join DM me.

[granite scarab]

What happened to the ore terminal on PO?

[thin escarp]

@granite scarab that's been gone like 3 patches

@serene quest hit up cosplay

@ripe solstice don't rent if you want I can get ya on some moles to learn n earn

I run a huge mining operation every saturday 20-40 ppl deep

we mine like 15-25 mil

[hollow sedge]

what’s the biggest rock a prospector with a lancet can break (no modules)? Also, is the max rock different if it has quantanium?

[round current]

ive mine 4900 mass rocks so for without any modules with the lancet

[lean skiff]

Got a 4700 mass 34% quant rock if anyone wants it!

Asking 30k for it

[dense violet]

@lean skiff

dm'd

[karmic socket]

Also just bought a Roc. Maybe we can go out together sometime?

[silk ridge]

The biggest Rock I've cracked for lolz was an 5800. ... I had A LOT of time thinking about my life choices tho... I'd say the max mass you can break without modules or consumables in a reasonable time is 5300-5400 ... everything above that gets just tedious.

With the new mining gadgets the max mass will be much higher. Have seen ppl. break rocks above 7000 in a reasonable time.

I believe the size you can break doesn't change much between the materials, but Quantanium has a MUCH smaller optimal window and is much more unstable.

[deep vector]

And resistance

[silk ridge]

resistance is futile

[dusky kraken]

i just got a prospector, could someone kindly let me know what upgrades i need to make?

[sacred loom]

A lancet mining head is all u really need

u can change QT drive and things to if u like

[dusky kraken]

may i ask where i could get those sub-item slot items?

sorry i been watching youtube guides but they dont really say what sub-item slots items do or where i could buy them

[silk ridge]

Lancet Mining head and another QT (Atlas or VK-00 if you only fly very short routes)

[silk ridge]

The sub-items/Attachments/consumables are available at the refinery stores at the refineries. Just like the mining heads

[dusky kraken]

so stampede modules are things i can buy at refinery stores?

are items that go into "sub-item slot" consumable by any chance?

[silk ridge]

Which ones to use is kinda personal preference.

I went a while with 2 Vaux-C3 and one Rieger-C3 ... very stable but slow ... not I use one Surge and 2 Brants

There are passive modules (like the rieger and vaux modules) and consumables like the brant , surge and stampede

[dusky kraken]

ahhh okay.

[silk ridge]

Best is to just try a few things out.

[dusky kraken]

my budget is super tight so i just wanted to make sure i know before spending

thanks a lot

isnt helix 1 better cuz it has higher output?

[silk ridge]

In this case grab a Brant and maybe a Vaux module ... to help with instability and stampede and surge when you got this down.

[silk ridge]

output wise ... yes ... but the lancet helps with much lower instability and bigger optimal window.

If you go for anything but Quantanium, take the helix ... but for Quantanium the Lancet is your Mining head. Especially if you're new.

[dusky kraken]

ahhhhh....

oh one last question, i heard that quantanium blows up if you dont deliver fast enough.
so if i mined some quantanium, i have to go to a nearest refinery ASAP and cant roam around searching for more quantanium?

[pallid temple]

No

[silk ridge]

Find a Rock that has enough Quantanium (at least 20scu), break all parts that have Quantanium until they are purple ... scoop up what you have and deliver it to the refinery.

Do not keep searching.

If you have multiple rocks, break them all into scoopable pieces first and then scoop everything.

No breaking or searching as soon as you have Quantanium in your ship.

[dusky kraken]

oh okay so if i dont find a large group of quantanium, i might have to go to refinery even though my ship storage might not be 100% full?

[silk ridge]

If You're on Android, I can recommend the app "QuantCalc" ... helps calculating the amount of quantanium in a rock or cluster.

It's 1 dollar well spent. xD

[silk ridge]

correct. Find yourself a nice rock. Don't waste time on low percentages.

[dusky kraken]

what kind of percentage do you accept when you mine yourself?

[silk ridge]

I usually go for rocks above 30% Quantanium ... depending on what the app says

[dusky kraken]

im on iphone by the way 😢

ahhh okay.

[silk ridge]

30% are usually good enough

[dusky kraken]

thank you so much for your help

i feel a bit comfortable now xD

sleepfish are you still there?

can you mine with nothing on "sub-item slot"?

[silk ridge]

If you type the Mass and percentage here, if shows you the mineral scu

https://uexcorp.space/mining

[silk ridge]

sure
I'd recommend bringing a Brant module tho. the 2nd break can always be very unstable and the brant helps to calm the rock down. (and it's a cheap module you get in almost every refinery)

[dusky kraken]

wow thank you so much.

may i ask what quantum drive you use for your prospector?

i know faster the better but the fastest ones have tiny range

[silk ridge]

The Lancet itself can break every rock up to 5500 mass, but above 5200 it starts taking ages.

[silk ridge]

I use the Atlas. (Available only on HUR-L5)
If you only fly very short distances, you can also go for the VK-00. A little faster but super fuel hungry.

[dusky kraken]

ahhh okay. thank you so much. imma gonna scroll up and take memos then go do some shopping as suggested.

BIG thanks!

[silk ridge]

👍

Get comfy with Quant and then experiment what modules suit your mining style. Pretty much everyone uses different module combinations. So whatever you do, It's only wrong if you explode a rock.

One thing: If you want to be safe, maybe grab a lifeline module. If a rock is about to blow up and you can't get away, it'll make sure you survive..

... if you start it in time that is XD

[dusky kraken]

i have been ROC mining for a while. "blow up" as in the rock blowing up when you give too much power to the mining laser when the rock is about to crack?

what is ot?

[silk ridge]

ot is the result of fat fingers on a small phone keyboard

[silk ridge]

Too much power. If you fill the red, it'll blow up your ship xD

[dusky kraken]

just like ROC mining

[dusky kraken]

🤣

[silk ridge]

So don't fear to turn off the laser and take a leap backwards. Better start new on a rock than to blow up. ^^ Especially with Quantanium. This stuff can blow you up even if you got some distance.

[dusky kraken]

as long as i got no quantanium on my ship, i can take my time right?

[silk ridge]

correct!

Break everything into scoopable pieces, the scoop and fly back. No more cracking or searching with Quant in your ship.

...And no hard landings. ^^ would be sad to blow up on the landing pad 🤣

[dusky kraken]

yeah that wouldnt be very pretty.

this really bothers me lol

why cant they center the actual center of the ship with the quantum drive UI!

https://tenor.com/view/gameboyluke-luke-ocd-it-mess-with-my-ocd-gif-15553648

[fair slate]

lancet.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is likely wasting your time on purpose

[dusky kraken]

thanks!

[fair slate]

its 28.8k.

Oddly enough the mole's lancet mh2 is 25.5k ... which doesn't make much sense but tehre ti si

[dusky kraken]

why does my brand new prospector has so many scratches and wear and tear... i just spent good 2 mil on it. it looks like a used ship.

[balmy linden]

less talking more mining 😉

[dusky kraken]

hahahaha yes sir

quantum cruising to get shield for my prospector

[rose cove]

It's "Certified like-new, refurbished"

[silk ridge]

The Prospector is really good.

The RAFT and the 400i are way worse.

[rose cove]

I find the size of the quant aimer annoying in the Prospector.

Also the computers are very lucky to have us be able to turn and aim at something for them.

[dusky kraken]

my prospector's quantum UI is offset to the lower right from the crosshair. so it's not even centered.

😂

[hollow sedge]

yeah same here

[molten cypress]

Can I move ore from a prospector to a cargo ship, if both are in the same station and stored?

[hollow sedge]

it needs to be refined before going to a cargo ship

[molten cypress]

copy that

[silk ridge]

Non refined ore should be sellable through the terminal next to the refining terminals. ... It's not worth it u less you're literally too broke to buy a hotdog 😆

[rose cove]

We've all been there.

[silk ridge]

Once upon a time, last week, I was down to 137aUEC ... it was depressing

Had a refinery job cooking .... thank god 🤣

[rose cove]

Yeah recently I had to do it because I spent most my UEC on upgrades, then went out in my prospector, lost it to a bug, had to re-buy my modules, took that out, blew up a rock and lost it... had to spend my last pennies on a few Voux C2s just to get another load in.

Didn't even have 200UEC to my name.

So I had to sell my Quant in the raw ore hole of shame

[silk ridge]

I los 2mil aUEC through a character reset

Now I'm back to 1.3mil.

[dusky kraken]

maybe customer support could help you fix the balance?

[rose cove]

Nice. I'm still figuring out how to make money well. I think my only bottleneck now is finding Quant hot spots.

I'm getting pretty good at cracking them.

The learning curve is real though.

[silk ridge]

nah ... making money is so incredibly easy in SC ... no reason to waste someone's time for that. 😆

Had I lost any of my pledge-ships ... sure ... but not for aUEC

[silk ridge]

Lyria: Fly straight until you find more than 2 rocks
Halo: Fly straight and scan all but sets of 3

There are no true Hotspots.

[rose cove]

We need a better name for spacebucks than aUEC. That's like the awkwardest 4 letters arrangement ever.

There are most definitely cold spots.

Last time I tried to open range Lyra me and another guy each spent 70 minutes without finding a good rock.

[silk ridge]

Thats usually a server issue... just relog if you don't find something for more tha 20-30 minutes

Empty servers are usually more giving when it comes too quant.

[rose cove]

Maybe I'm crazy but I feel like searching near the mineral preserve has more, which would make sense if they're trying to make us concentrate for pirate opportunities

[silk ridge]

I personally always have bad luck on Lyria. Rocks either too big or too low percentage. In the Halo I rarely need more than 10 minutes to find a good rock.

[dreamy bridge]

ah love me 8.5K mass rocks

just found 7.9K mass with almost 49% on lyria

asked in game for a sitter so I can bring my mole to not waste any Quan

[rose cove]

Trusting

[silk ridge]

I always look for miners in chat. If I find good clusters I break all my rocks and invite slother miners who might be interested.

I start scooping when they start coming and I have my QT loaded when they arrive ... just in case something else than a Prospector/Mole comes. xD

Of there's no other obvious miner, I just keep quiet.

Nobody has to know. Danger of being intercepted upon return is too high.

Yesterday I had a good clusster with roughly 60scu extra. Invited someone with a mole to get the rest.

[dreamy bridge]

no I wanted all for myself 😄

hence wanted a sitter to wait

so I can bring my Mole

was gonna pay 30K for sitting a few mins

[silk ridge]

I'm happy with prospector loads. Don't mind leaving some for others.

[hollow hornet]

When making the starting capital for trading, what should I do? should i just start with box missions?

[frail cypress]

look into illegal monitor missions at microtech

[hollow sedge]

well eventually it will just be UEC which i think is fine

[lilac hedge]

🅱️ UEC when?

[hardy mesa]

Don't help them make a premium currency pledge ships already take enough from me

[bold yew]

Would picking up a box mission and dropping he box at the spot be better?

[sullen anvil]

Hi all

Anyone mining?

I bought a hoffstede mining head for my prospector but i can't load it on to my prospector

What's the best mining head for the prospector

[hollow sedge]

no fuckign way first rock of the day 37% quant

[lilac basin]

Anyone scouting? Got 2 Prospectors and we need help staying productive lol

[lilac basin]

Depends on what your doing, if its Quant farming, Lancet is best

Honestly its all I use

[thin escarp]

@dusky kraken i have a guide pinned in this channel that will help you alot. loading out your prospector. where to go mine etc and where each module is

@sullen anvil you'll want the lancet for sure

and if you are renting

you cannnot change laser.

the ship also must be stored where you are tryin to equip it. and it has to be the correct sizre

[gentle marlin]

I just got the game yesterday and I wanna get in to hauling cargo and doing deliveries. I got the aurora ship need help with the basics of hauling and delivering if anyone wants to help me later

[granite sonnet]

any one need help i want to get into mining but don't know where to start so if someone has time and want to help me out and i can hopefully help you as well dm me in interested (i speak EN NL)

[lilac basin]

scottsdev we can help you out bud

[thin escarp]

@granite sonnet also check out my guide pinned in this channel i can send you my youtube guides too

[opal cargo]

Someone who want to buy 5k mass 46% Quant ?

rental prospector here so can mine it

[onyx fable]

what planet is best for roc mining

[fair slate]

Lost the internets @lean glen @shell wren

[fair slate]

Tf?

[shell wren]

Right??

[nimble schooner]

Is there any way to put a mining head on a rented prospector?

[gray crag]

is this a bug? They're hidden beneath this big rock, which makes it impossible to reach the gems. Or they might be inside a cave ?

[pallid temple]

It's a bug

[north oyster]

known issue that they are trying to get addressed (along with a lot of other bugs with ROC mining) and fixed.

ROC mining will be much better in 3.17 for the first time since 3.13

3.14 was the build that tanked ROC mining

[rose canopy]

is trading now viable? last time i played 3.14ish it was completely bugged with no demand showing anywhere

[rain shadow]

Question guys, whats the quickest way to earn enough for a Prospector in live? I've 600K at the moment!

[vital stag]

When do i need to stop QT when i want to stop in the Halo Belt from ARC l1 to Hurston?

[shell wren]

Cave spelunking with a prospector

[frigid vigil]

anyone down for helping a newbie learn the best ways to roc mine?

[vital stag]

should i just get all the worth material even its low percentage?

[zenith sail]

What's everyone's opinion on M2 vs the C2

[zenith sail]

also im down to help if you still need it

[frigid vigil]

I would love the help. I’m logging back on in like 5 min

[zenith sail]

DM me when youre back then 👍

[frigid vigil]

Cool cool

[north oyster]

Trade is viable but only if running a C2 or CAT

[north oyster]

press and hold "B" the same key you start and launch QT. You can also hit ' i ' (eye) to kill your engines.

[north oyster]

ROC mining will be much better in (hopefully) in 3.17. Everything from 3.14 to current build 3.16 makes ROC mining not as profitable (timewise) as it should be. That should change in the next patch

[rose canopy]

how much can you make doing that?

[frigid vigil]

Yeah I just want to get started because it’s still more profitable than hand mining lol

[north oyster]

Bounties offer some of the best pay for grinding. The illegal monitors pay 20K per mission and aren't too bad (key is to locate all 3 monitors before shooting).

[north oyster]

Even a basic short scrap run will earn close to 40K. Gold, Titanium, diamonds, etc earn way more

A lot depends on market. Sometimes good, sometimes bad

Astertine is also good

[rose canopy]

just kinda looking for a per-hour spitball lol

[north oyster]

I think a whole ship of Astertine is about 100k profit

I don't measure by hour, I measure by trip. Like I earn 200k to 275K aUEC per trip in my Prospector. Avg about 240K aUEC per trip

Sometimes the trip is 15 minutes, sometimes 40 minutes

I have hit 1M aUEC per hour, but I don't want to feel like I have to maintain such a pace

[north oyster]

Also, if you're 18+ there is a pro mining guild here that will pay you to learn. They run a big operation and pay well.

[north oyster]

Jack Axton does a Trade Refresher Course on YT that sets up various rates per hour on different commodities. You may want to check that out.

[fair slate]

next patch bruh

lol

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/4/thread/regarding-mining-rock-radar-detection-change-to-12

Dont forget to leave feedback on the upcoming rock changes.

mining related

[north oyster]

I'm still testing ROC but I'll such to the Prospector here soon and run that

[fair slate]

I'm to focused on moving as much material as possible on PU

so I can cut back on mining generally if it turns out to be an absolute shit show

[rain shadow]

Thx man

[north oyster]

You can get in touch with Cross here on the forum if you'd like to try that

[fair slate]

I pay 50% if you wanna scout rocks, anything over 5100 you get in break it then i lower the ship you scout the next rock.

[silk ridge]

PSA:
Get your Refinery jobs cleared and sold!

Since CiG isn't good with telling dates... better clear it than loose it.

[upbeat cloak]

just got the game and i want to get into the trading and mining business, can someone show me the ropes?

[digital osprey]

Suggestions for starter mining spacecraft?

[coarse cape]

Well there’s only two options right now. Prospector and mole

Prospector is a solo miner and mole is multi crew and can have 3 people mining at the same time

There’s also the roc and roc-ds but you need another vehicle to use them

[daring basalt]

jumptown back, quick few mil

[hollow sedge]

im kinda new to cargo running, do different outposts have different values for selling and buying?

[haughty wraith]

Anyone looking for a extra set of hands, looking to learn and make money.

[primal badge]

for the mole where is a good place to mine big rocks

[thin escarp]

@primal badge@digital osprey@upbeat cloak i have a mining guide pinned in this channel

[fair slate]

Hope it will be in the next patch it's been to long since events

[stone jay]

Im new to the game, anyone have a good video tutorial on how to run cargo?

[dusky kraken]

can prospector mining a quantanium deposit that's mass 8261?

[pallid temple]

No

[dusky kraken]

thanks

i heard that you can only use brandt module for couple of times then you have to replace it with a new one. is that true?

[marble crater]

active modules have 5 uses then you need to replace it

[dusky kraken]

i used it 3 times on the last run. so i guess i can use it for 2 more. is there any way i could discard the one that i have equipped?

i just want to go to the mining field with a fresh brandt module every time.

[marble crater]

yeah it sucks with the current inventory setup, swapping a Brandt module doesn't seem to guarantee you get a fresh one. i try to just use them up in the field (if you hold F and look up top in the Prospector you can check how many charges you have left)

[dusky kraken]

ahhh... okay so if i use the brandt module that i have equipped for 5 times, is there a way to throw it out when i come back to a station? or does it disappear since it's all used up?

[marble crater]

it disappears when it's out

[dusky kraken]

nice... i should have wasted it since brandt module comes cheap 😢

searched lyria for an hour and half for 30% quantanium too lol

but it was my very first run so im really happy

[marble crater]

yeah it's pretty average how the inventory setup is now for modules. 30% is a good find at least

[dusky kraken]

100% quantanium with 0 inert materials, 29 out of 32 scu is okay for the first run right? i hope im doing it right. hope my second run is better.

[marble crater]

that's basically a perfect run lol

[dusky kraken]

wow

but when i gave it to the refinery, i dont know what happened but some went missing. do they take some of ores that you give to them?

[marble crater]

you lose a bit through refining

[dusky kraken]

oh... i guess it's normal. what is the most popular processing method?

i went with electrostarolysis

[marble crater]

Dinyx (very slow)or Ferron (slow)

[dusky kraken]

ahhh... slow = lower mining fee right?

[marble crater]

less fee, higher yield

[dusky kraken]

i couldnt read anything to be honest cuz i was so panicking all the way to the refinery station lol

14 min timer scares me

[frail cypress]

this close to a patch i'd use ferron

[dusky kraken]

wow still like 13 hours

how many scu can u leave at the refinery before needing to use a freighter to start moving them?

[frail cypress]

doesn't seem to be a limit atm

[dusky kraken]

wow that's awesome.

[frail cypress]

patch will wipe work orders tho

[dusky kraken]

but if i refine at arc L1, the processed ores can only be accessed at the arc L1 refinery right?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[dusky kraken]

yeah i heard but i just got my prospector yesterday and im trying it out. need to make some $ too while at it. only got 60k

when the 14 min timer starts to run, you hurry back to a station and store your ship, will the timer stop at the moment when you store your ship or does the timer still run until you start refining?

[pallid temple]

Storing the ship stops the timer

[dusky kraken]

ahhhh

i should have taken my time to read and check my options carefully at the refinement console.

what are some of the popular modules?
i use brandt and impact

[frail cypress]

focus, vaux, fltr, stampede, surge, rieger

[dusky kraken]

thank you so much. i'll check those out.

what is the maximum mass that a prospector can mine? 5k?

[frail cypress]

lancet head, right modules, 6k

with a helix probably more

[dusky kraken]

im assuming the right module would be the stampede?

[frail cypress]

yea and surge

[dusky kraken]

does resistance on the rock matter? all i do is try to find higher quntanium % when i scan for the rocks

[frail cypress]

yes, higher resistance = more energy needed to crack

[dusky kraken]

so... is there a number for the resistance that prospector cannot mine?

[frail cypress]

i'm sure there is an exact mass and resistance combo as the upper limit, let me know if you find it 🙂

[dusky kraken]

thanks will do

[orchid sail]

hey miners, can you sell from a roc to a mining outpost? e.g. Shubin on Daymar?

[frail cypress]

sure. if the station doesn't see the roc inventory, just drive it out and if it still doesn't, request landing while in it, park it on given pad store then sell

[north oyster]

CIG is hinting hard 3.17 LIVE. It will be this week. Clear your refinery jobs as they finish to market. Do not stow it in your ship either. Both refinery and ships will get wiped

[gentle marlin]

Anyone wanna hire 2 people later around 3:30pm est. We have a cutlass black so we can run cargo or pick ups. Nothing illegal please

[hollow sedge]

are money and ship components staying

[north oyster]

Yes, for the most part

[autumn cedar]

money and components stay

but i'd unequip non-stock modules from ships, just to be sure

[hollow sedge]

ok cool because i have like 25 mining modules

[cerulean lichen]

Just started doing roc mining last night. Sure it’s not fast or makes a ton but had a lot of fun. Mines 3 different sits for dolivine and neater 14k

[main saddle]

That's key. If it's not fun, then it just becomes a "job".

[rain shadow]

Roc mining looks better in 3.17, when I was looking for Rocks in the prospector I saw tons of gems.

[cerulean lichen]

That’s great to hear!

[rain shadow]

Yeah, was fun to try the prospector out in PTU, def next buy in Live, seems a fun way to make more money

[hardy mesa]

im excited to see how the expanse and prospector work together in the game hopefully faster payouts

[cerulean lichen]

Mining at micro tech may not yield a lot but it’s calm here

[hollow sedge]

How much should a scout charge for 6k+mass quantanium and 40%+ of Q per rock?

Is 50k to much?

[main saddle]

If it's a good break, that rock would be worth about 420k refined

[steep dust]

Say you find a nice rock and want to sell that info...what would you do? Like, what coords would you give? Do you create a beacon?

[cerulean lichen]

Found a 8 node of handite!

[autumn cedar]

quickest way is to invite an interested miner to party, he can then reach you quickly

[shell wren]

Want some company?

[round pond]

Is there any way to jettison inerte materials from a prospector?

[tawny gale]

i'm confused. i have a lancet mh1 laser but i can't mine this rock with quantanium.

[full seal]

the size of the rock can be effecting it too

[tawny gale]

oh

[full seal]

the larger the rock the more power needed to mine it ,ships with more than 1 laser can mine them rocks

[tawny gale]

i was too far away this time actually but thanks for the help

[full seal]

np

[full seal]

only way to get more of what you want and less "inerte" rock is to look at the % of stuff in the rocks, dont just mine ever rock . but you cant jettison what you dont want. just mine rock with higher levels of what you want .

[teal wing]

Or to use FLTR passive modules where taking on some inert materials is unavoidable

[tawny gale]

where is a good asteroid mining spot?

[full seal]

you can but i think he was asking if he can drop it after mining it

[cerulean lichen]

Only had half of my roc cargo space filled and sold it for 100k. Half dolivine and the other handite. Pretty good haul for a hour and 15 minutes

[shell wren]

Want some company?

[cerulean lichen]

I’m just logging off for the afternoon. Thanks for the offer though

[cerulean lichen]

I don’t know why but I enjoy doing roc mining way more then package delivery stuff. Sure it may not be as efficient but something about getting out of the cutlass and into the vehicle is so nice

[tawny gale]

is there a formula for how much scu quantanium equals in auec?

[pliant pilot]

I've mined a lot of diamond, but the admin office in lorville doesn't show it in my ships commodity list. It is raw, but I also can't find a refinery. I've tried really hard to youtube an answer, but nothing is matching up with the gameplay... Someone please help...

[glacial dagger]

88aUEC per unit

[teal wing]

Yeah, per cSCU, so it's about 8800 credits per SCU give or take (the price varies based on supply & demand)

Lots of mining spreadsheets and stuff out there

[teal wing]

That's because if it's unrefined you need to sell it to the ore sale terminals in refineries, they're just to the left of the refinery terminals

ARC L1, CRU L1, HUR L1, HUR L2 and MIC L1 have refineries, you just go into the station and take the second set of elevators down to the refinery area

[pliant pilot]

@teal wing thank you

[regal wasp]

so can quantaium spawn as a single rock?

[teal wing]

Yeah, it doesn't have to spawn in clusters but they tend to be the most profitable

[hollow sedge]

what’s the biggest cargo ship you can rentV

[balmy linden]

andromeda?

[thin escarp]

@pliant pilot i have a guide pinned in this channel

you cannot sell raw diamond unless its to at a refinery

refinerys are arc l1 mic l1 hur l1 cru l1 and hur l2

[pliant pilot]

yeah, @teal wing helped me. I have it figured out now.

[earnest lion]

Where do I buy the ARGO RAFT in-game?

[nocturne python]

Does anyone know a video explaining the basic concepts of cargo and how it works?

[cerulean oak]

+1

[hollow sedge]

https://youtu.be/rhETMEyfEa0

[nocturne python]

ty

[hollow sedge]

digthat is the best trader

[night meadow]

o/

one of you would have a good "loadout "for a prospector? thanks

( without quantenium )

[livid grotto]

I think im missing something with quantanium mining, stock prospector except for a lanceit S1 head. Anytime I break a quantanium rock (from 35-40m) it will still knock out my ships engines and leave me stuck. Do I just need to be further (outside optimal range) or invest in better shields?

[nocturne python]

This is nice.. But i was looking for a more like complete noob guide, as someone who has no idea how to do a run

[obtuse sand]

are you breaking the rock by keeping the meter in the green, or filling up the meter all the way to the red?

[north oyster]

Jack Axton has a trader refresher course. However, the idea is you land at an outpost, go to the terminal, select Buy, Select your ship, choose the commodity you want then buy it. Take it to a TDD or some other outpost that buys it and then Sell. Jack's video covers most every commodity, where to find it and where to sell it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxTYWawbvM

[fair slate]

Anyone here wanna make some $

[light moon]

Whats a good prospector mining build

[fair slate]

surge vaux c2 stampede

easy peazy

[light moon]

What?

[north oyster]

See the attached pinned message

[fair slate]

lancet mh1

surge vauxc2 stampede

[north oyster]

It's the name of the attachments being used with the Lancet laserhead

[fair slate]

You can literally break any rock in the game, or in the least start further back and instabreak rocks

60m hit on a 3k = green

45m 4k green

stampede, boom rock breaks in 16 seconds

[light moon]

What are these?

[obtuse sand]

mining modules

like little devices you can activate while mining a rock

[fair slate]

at hur L1, and Arc L1, there is a tab called mining modules

[obtuse sand]

any L1 station’s refinery level has a shop that will sell these

[stone jay]

Im new to the game, anyone have a good video tutorial on how to run cargo?

[open ledge]

What are the best Mining consumables

[thin escarp]

@open ledge check my guide pinned in this channel

[river cove]

ok so in PTU to get beter result in prospector what gadget should put on?

[north oyster]

Trade and cargo isn't a good system for new players. It favors the largest ships and needing plenty of aUEC

[lilac hedge]

hoping for hauling missions to make that a bit more easier

[timber hamlet]

returning player after a few long years. making a long story short, i gotta relearn the game and i have a mole, LF a crew or org to teach me the ropes any takers?

[light moon]

Prospector, whats the best components for these slots?

[sacred loom]

u only need a QT drive really

I like the VK00 but its only for short trips

[light moon]

Gotcha thanks

Should I look for quant in asteriods or on rocks on planet surfaces?

(prospector)

[dusky kraken]

is it normal that it's incredibly hard to find 30% quantainium rocks on lyria?

i found them twice. i spent approx. 1.5 hours in both cases.

[thin escarp]

no

i suggest server hop

and make sure you are only stopping for pairs n clusters

[silk ridge]

Since when are Burritos Delivery/Cargo items? XD

[marble crater]

pls be gentle with the clients burrito

[silk ridge]

I was looking for a package until I looked in just the right angle to see the numbers above the white table it was placed XD ... Never had a delivery like that lol

[marble crater]

lol haven't seen that before either

[dusky kraken]

okie thanks

when you are using stempede and got the power where you want it, how to you turn it off? it seems to stay on until the timer runs out.

[cerulean lichen]

Well if I’m going to be a miner in game I better reposition myself better since micro tech isn’t great from mining. To crusader and Daymar I go!

[silk ridge]

It stays on for the duration of the timer

[silk ridge]

Haven't mined on Daymar ... I kinda don't want to be around Crusader ... too much pirates thanks to Grim

[dusky kraken]

so i cant stop the zaps from the stampede until the timer runs out? 😢

[cerulean lichen]

I do ROC mining so as long as I can stay on daymar and make it to mining facilities to turn in stuff I’m fine

[silk ridge]

No, but the stampede only fills the green bar ... as long as you stay in there all is good. 🙂

[silk ridge]

ah ok ... never used the ROC ^^

[dusky kraken]

ahh you dont use the stemepede like surge to get the white bar up?

[silk ridge]

The Surge Pumps up the energy you throw at the rock by a significant amount to get to the green bar.

The Stampede fills the green bar fast ... But with higher instability (more corrections needed) If I remember correctly. ... I'm not in a miner atm. ^^

Both are good for people who go for aUEC per hour or who don't have patience. ... I personally prefer Brants or Vaux-C3 (passive) to have more stable rocks. Takes much longer to do anything but it's easier.

I currently run a Surge to crack the rock and use Brants to crack safely

ok... currently I'm drunk... dont touching my Prospector in this state 😄

[dusky kraken]

lol thanks

[cerulean lichen]

Roc mining maybe slow but I can brining in 100k about every hour or so on microtech. Hopefully daymar will have more handite so I can increase that number

[covert galleon]

where is the best place to mine bexalite?

[tawny path]

anyone trying to go roc mining

[cerulean lichen]

Yep that’s all I do 😅

[tawny path]

do you mine if I join I havent actually ever been😬

[cerulean lichen]

Not on tonight. Though maybe someone else can take you

[fair shoal]

inter steller door dash

[twilit wren]

Blew myself up. lol Quantum Asteroid go boom

[silk ridge]

rip

I gave up after 3 deaths today. First my ship decided to QT into a Planet, then my ship blew up for no reason at all and the 3rd time I got killed by a bugged Bunker-Elevator.

Should have gone mining... xD

[deep vector]

We all been there) after first time I killed my powerplant on prospector I got myself shield with 95% physical resistance and military powerplant

[teal wing]

Tried doing quant mining with a stock MOLE last night, killed all the subsystems and ended up stranded

Skill issue

[deep vector]

Arbor really awful to crack rocks

[river cove]

hey guys spot for prosp miming ptu?

[robust osprey]

yo in prosp mining whats the minimun cargo of quant in a rock thats actually worth taking the time to mine and qt to refine it

feels like rocks with very little scu are a waist of time but so is searching for an hour to find a rock to completely fill the cargo, im wondering where the balance is

[frail cypress]

personally i drew the line at 20 in a prospector, unless i've been looking for a long time

[robust osprey]

bet, is there a reason as well im getting less from rocks than the calculator shows me?

[frail cypress]

like a lot less? rounding errors can occur

[robust osprey]

did two rocks, that should have had 40 in them combined and flew away with only 27 quant

not a regular thing but yeah sometimes its been going like that

[frail cypress]

then you missed a chunk

or blew some up due to overcharge

[robust osprey]

haha fair play

all tdd's give the same rate right now as well right?

[frail cypress]

should yea
np

[robust osprey]

thanks for the help man

[stiff bramble]

Any one want a turret manned?

[deep vector]

I doesn’t work with less than 25%. 5.1 22-23 is last option for me.

[deep vector]

When you explode even tiny bits you lose good stuff in them.

[hoary hinge]

Is there a convenient list of vehicles that are confirmed to fit in the back of a base 'lancer?

In particular, a ROC or Cyclone?

[empty kite]

Any rock mining going on?

[deep vector]

Both fit iirc

At least in fatlancer

Regular not sure

Both fit in cutty black lol

Together

[hoary hinge]

lancer looks better tho
Cheers mate

[light moon]

What's the best place to look for quantanium

[simple ice]

anyone wanting to mine some just got a prospector

[thin escarp]

@light moon @simple ice @robust osprey @teal wing check out my mining guide pinned in this channel

[light moon]

Thanks

[hollow sedge]

NEED HELP CANT FIND QUANTIFMANE

[exotic mural]

are you flying to asteroid belt or lyria?

[hollow sedge]

ansteroid blet

[exotic mural]

then i don't know the coorinates,

[light moon]

There are no asteroids where I am but it says I'm in the belt?

[round pond]

go to hurston

then set destination to arc corp

then drop out of QT at 9.5mil km left

[light moon]

Aight, thanks

[light moon]

I haven't found 1 rock with quantanium in this ring

@round pond You lied bruh theres jack shit here

[round pond]

that shouldmhave put you in the belt

[light moon]

I'll try jumping closer

9.5 mil didnt seem to be inside

[round pond]

you went from hurston>arc corp

[light moon]

yes

[round pond]

not from arc corp to hurtson

[light moon]

yes

I made sure

there were asteroids but I checked many for a solid 30 minutes and found no quant

[round pond]

so you are in the belt

[light moon]

I was in A belt but I found no quant at all

[round pond]

just gotta look. didnt know you were specifically looking for quant. I just thought you were trying to get to the belt

[light moon]

Oh, bruh

Where would a belt be that has quant?

[round pond]

thats (as far as i know) the only belt

[earnest tendon]

FPOV ALERT: @everyone Rock Store IS OPEN for business for the brave Minors that want to risk it.

Got 3800 Quant Rock with 38% of Quant. Likely return is $165,194 aUEC with a Max of $254,144 aUEC. Selling for $24,779. Any Takers

Got 5 Quant Rocks with 66.9 SCU of Quant. Likely return is $382,668 aUEC with a Max of $588,720 aUEC. Selling for $57,400. Any Takers

Got 6200 Quant Rock with 41% of Quant. Likely return is $290,805 aUEC with a Max of $447,392 aUEC. Selling for $43,621. Any Takers

[tawny gale]

what is cUSC? and also what is the best way to refine quantanium?

[pallid temple]

There is no such measurement as "cUSC", the correct measurement is "cSCU", which is 1 unit of a commodity

[tawny gale]

oh my bad

thanks

[floral pond]

Is it worth renting a prospector and mining until you can own one yourself?

[earnest tendon]

aUEC is the money

you refine quant at a refineror (ARC L1, MIC L!, etc)

Got 5600 Quant Rock with 32% of Quant. Likely return is $205,005 aUEC with a Max of $315,392 aUEC. Selling for $30,751. Any Takers

Rock 1 Sold

Any takers?

[hollow sedge]

DOES ANYONE WANT TO HELP ME MINE

im noob

[robust osprey]

this doesnt mention much about solo mining from what i can see

[rain shadow]

From what I hear no, because you can't upgrade the mining laser etc so not worthwhile? Anyone clarify this? 😄

[thin escarp]

@robust osprey it def has loadouts

@rain shadow rental prospector is trash

[robust osprey]

defo some useful stuff, does anyone know which areas of the belt have the best density of quant? i saw it mentioned online but cant find it. or is lyria still just better for solo prosp mining

[serene quest]

also located in the guide iirc

[robust osprey]

if it is im not seeing it

[hollow sedge]

nah ur right if you cant mine quant theres really no point

[serene quest]

try this

[lapis kiln]

What’s the best modules to use for the Argo mole?

[rain shadow]

Thx, bought a Prospector in PTU and kitted it out and actually had "fun" lol. Regreeted spending all my money in Live on a Warden now. Could use the prospector to make more money than Vanguard can!

[hollow sedge]

i love mining

i get baked as fuck and just scan rocks

[serene quest]

warden'll take you far recouping those funds tho lol

[rain shadow]

Also managed to blow my self up mining Quantanium too 😄

Purchased ships in game don't persist though through major patches do they?

[hollow sedge]

i dont think so

but im not sure

[thin escarp]

@lapis kiln check my guide I got some mole loadouts in there

[rain shadow]

Pretty sure they don't. Made my money off the JT event last time, everything else takes forever with limited playtime

[thin escarp]

personally I use reigers and extraction boost

[lapis kiln]

Where can I find you load out guide?

[rain shadow]

Pinned messages at a guess

[swift flint]

Where is TDD on Orison?

[serene quest]

I really need someone to do a 2D map for each city lol

[swift flint]

they are out there on the internet somewhere

I'll just look it up I guess

as I'm descending into orison lol

ok, it's in cloudview

[dusky kraken]

to sell my processed ores, do i have to go to one of the major cities or can i just sell them at space stations?

[shell wren]

If you refined them already , you have to sell then at a major city

At the TDD

[dusky kraken]

omg... i can only carry so much. i have to make so many trips... so many subway rides

[shell wren]

No just leave it on your ship

You have to transport with a transport ship

[dusky kraken]

what do you mean? i put the load on my ship and i have to go to the city then store it then take subway to TDD and sell right?

[river cove]

so I try to prosp mining on lyra scan found a cluster of 4 rocks point the laser but no scan ..............any suggestion why the laser do not scan?

[dusky kraken]

i need a c2....

[shell wren]

Yea but just one trip to the TDD

How much does your ship carry?

[dusky kraken]

i retract the mining laser then go back into mining mode again.

it's a connie

92 or something

[shell wren]

Oh how much do you have refined?

[serene quest]

you could rent a Max? It'll cut into your profits but if it's that much, it's probably worth it

[dusky kraken]

im not sure i gotta go check. if i refined beryl along with quantainium, do i have to take them all or can i just take the quantainium from the single work order?

[serene quest]

I believe you can refine one or the other, but if you refined both you must take both iirc

[swift flint]

If I close the process of the game, will my cargo be safe?

The server crashed but doesn't give the 30k error, only the chat is continuing to work

[river cove]

wait id a different laser to prosp mining in moon?

[fair slate]

yea

lancet MH1

ArcL1

[river cove]

ya I got that but in Lyra when I point the laser it not scan the rock

what modules I should get?

[fair slate]

I do surge, stampede and vaux c2.... for you though? I'd say laser torrent 2, stampede, and vaux c2

[dusky kraken]

what is vaux c2 for?

[earnest tendon]

Got 3900 Quant Rock with 33% of Quant. Likely return is $147,233 aUEC with a Max of $226,512 aUEC. Selling for $22,085. Any Takers

Got 2 Quant Rocks with 28.04 SCU of Quant. Likely return is $160,389 aUEC with a Max of $246,752 aUEC. Selling for $24,058. Any Takers

Got 5 Quant Rocks with 66.9 SCU of Quant. Likely return is $382,668 aUEC with a Max of $588,720 aUEC. Selling for $57,400. Any Takers

[empty kite]

Lol whats with the specific selling prices?

[earnest tendon]

15% of the likely profit after refinement

[empty kite]

Ohhh nice

[earnest tendon]

if it breaks clean, it is about 7-12%

but it is up front.

[empty kite]

Gotcha

Nice system

[earnest tendon]

would you want to access to the Rock sell store?

[teal wing]

Did they get rid of the visual scanning technique for quantanium clusters? The rocks seem to spawn in much closer now, almost at ping distance

But I'm not sure if I'm imagining it

[earnest tendon]

what do you mean visual scanning?

not sure

Selling Quant rocks still. Anybody want to buy?

[cerulean lichen]

Well roc mining anywhere in the Hurston planetary system was a bust for me. Every node deposit spawned inside another boulder. So I could find stuff but it was impossible to mine