industrial-professions

[indigo wolf]

But I was selling

[brave maple]

All cargo is across servers

[indigo wolf]

I wasn't buying I was selling. Is it bc they wont buy it

[brave maple]

Can’t imagine a station not taking Laranite

Are you selected on the right cargo to sell?

Looking on phone

[indigo wolf]

Nvm I just waited a min then it worked it was just a temp bug

[fair slate]

Request is out

[hybrid geyser]

added

[hybrid geyser]

can you join backup vc 2

[dull isle]

anyone wanna team up for mining around huston?

[north oyster]

This doesn't look like a TDD console, were you at Area18, Lorvile, New Babbage or Orison? That's the only place you sell

[indigo wolf]

Isnt it called Trade & Development District (TDD) at Area 18? That's where I was.

[north oyster]

Ah, ok, then if it is showing in your ship the TDD isn't buying. Not seen that since the infinite cargo bug, but it could be there. I'd suggest trying CBD in Lorvile before giving up

[indigo wolf]

It sold I just waited a min

[north oyster]

OK, market was bogged then. Good to hear you didn't loose it

[coral juniper]

how do i cargo

[indigo wolf]

You need a ship that can carry cargo and money first.

[coral juniper]

cutlass black

i have 400k

i know im really cool

[indigo wolf]

Well I am pretty new to cargo running but I use a C2 and go to my preferred place to buy then sell at Area 18 to find the best place to buy look up YT videos and maybe try using SC trade tools or Gallog.

[coral juniper]

is that a website

gallog

[indigo wolf]

They both are

Galactic Logistics

[coral juniper]

so sc trade tools is a website and not a general thing

[indigo wolf]

Yeah they are both websites

[coral juniper]

thanks

[tribal imp]

I think TDD also has a limit they can buy. I had the same problem with meds. I just waited a few minutes then I was able to sell.

[brave maple]

It because supply/demand is cross server too

[coral juniper]

people sell cargo in cutlass for 11k profit?

yall tripping im going back to bunker missions

[marble crater]

only ships you do cargo in is a C2 or a Cat tbh

[coral juniper]

cargo bad

[marble crater]

yep if you're wanting to make creds then there's the big 3. quant mining, bounties or bunkers

[errant galleon]

hey do you guys know what the best ore to mine with a roc is?

[grizzled jacinth]

anyone know where to spawn my ROC?

i cant find the building

[tribal imp]

go to a mining outpost and find the platinum bay building.

[dull isle]

who just started mining?

[obtuse sand]

anyone know why my ship isn't being recognized as a buy location when im landed at an outpost?

[thin escarp]

normal

if theres no pad

buggy in 3.17

[obtuse sand]

im in 3.16 tho

playing normal PU

[tribal imp]

which location?

[obtuse sand]

NT-999-XX

yela

[tribal imp]

that's one of the places where you can't buy.

[obtuse sand]

oohh crap

where else can i buy vices

[tribal imp]

jumptown

[obtuse sand]

where's that?

not on the map

[tribal imp]

yeah there's no marker for it. watch youtube videos to find it.

or get a personal mission like the supply re up that goes to jumptown. That mission gives you a marker for it.

[obtuse sand]

is there anywhere else i can buy stuff?

[thin escarp]

@obtuse sand literally telling you that its fixed in 3.17

3.16

hella buggy with buying drugs or some cargo from places with no pad

etc

[obtuse sand]

oh ok got it

[fair swallow]

anyone have a guide for best mole upgrades?

[faint arrow]

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtt

[faint arrow]

brrt

[grizzled jacinth]

anyone know why the ROC doesnt pick up ore even in extraction mode?

[thin escarp]

known bug

its fixed in 3.17 tho

@grizzled jacinth

@fair swallowmole upgrades see my pinned guide in this channel

[grizzled jacinth]

should i play 3.17?

[thin escarp]

3.17 is only in ptu

and that doesnt carry over

it'l be out soon

7-12 days

im guessin

[grizzled jacinth]

what do you mean "doesnt carry over"?

[thin escarp]

PTU is just the testing server for new patches

[late mortar]

They mean that whatever you do in PTU (which is currently the only place where 3.17 exists) doesn't persist in the PU (which is currently at 3.16.1)

So when the PU is upgraded to 3.17, then only what you've done in 3.16.1 will have persisted

[fair slate]

Wait 10 minutes

[sacred loom]

So my C2 just blew up outside tram and myers full of cargo for no reason

Goodbye 800k

[coral flume]

Where is the best place to rent a Greycat Roc? Trying to make some dollar.

Once you own one can it be spawned in your ship or do you always have to go to a ground location to spawn and pick up?

[sacred loom]

If u store ship with it in there the ROC will be there when u claim it

Can rent from any refinery. 5k for a day

[coral flume]

Oh sweet so I only need to do the initial faff when collecting initially. Thank you

[sacred loom]

Are u new to ROC mining man?

[coral flume]

Yes I am. I've got a Nomad and 20k in my pocket.

[vagrant crystal]

I'm looking for mole best build solo + crew

[sacred loom]

So u can ROC mine on Daymar. Hadanite is best Aphorite is ok, Dolvine is pretty shit. Once u get used to it there is a lot more to be found on Arial and Aberdeen. You need a special suit and mask to mine there tho

[coral flume]

Daymar it is.
Always go for Hadanite and if nothing else Aphorite.

I've for the 10k suit from Cargo. Is that the one you mean?

[sacred loom]

It’s the red suit and helm at refinery, u only need that at Aberdeen , Arial. Also u can only mine for like an hour or you are totally dehydrated, pays to bring couple drinks. The atmosphere will cook u there. Daymar u don’t need a suit. Just head on down in whatever

[coral flume]

That is very handy to know 😂

I would 100% fry myself and get annoyed at my own stupidity.

Thanks for taking the time to give your advice.

[sacred loom]

@coral flume Not a problem. Also I’m unfamiliar with nomad. Does it have a back loading ramp?

[coral flume]

It has an uncovered rear cargo area. Bit dodgy for loading boxes but I'm hoping it works as intended for transporting vehicles.

[sacred loom]

Ok, so another thing. Use the outside view and ‘z’ button to pan camera to make sure the ramp is perfect to the ground with no gaps. Otherwise you will get the ROC out but perhaps not back in...

[tulip roost]

Could someone explain to me what quanta actually does in 3.17? Are effects actually observable?

[wary gust]

Quanta is a system thatll change prices of products via npc and some player interaction. So the system will run in the background and itll give npcs missions like trading, mining, refueling, etc. and theyll trade and mine everything even worse products. In 3.17 it will start with Fuel prices and possibly weapon and armor prices, plus itll make it where each city, station, and outpost will have separate ship inventories and such

[wary gust]

and heres a more indepth description https://starcitizen.tools/Quantum_(game_system)

[tulip roost]

Thanks

[north oyster]

The armor you need is the Pembroke armor set, it is found in the undersuit section and has its own dedicated helmet. ROC mining is pretty rough in 3.16 but has gotten a little bit of love in 3.17. With the Nomad you will need to back the ROC into the ship's bed, otherwise you can not get out of the ROC.

The deposits do not show up on the ping until you are about 1200 meters from them. So you will need to be very low. Some search going fast, some search going a steady slower speed. The large pings (5K to 15K away) are large ore deposits and not of any value to you.

Watch your laser power level and keep it out of the RED, once the green is filled the rock will crack. The gems have a problem being collected, so only grab a few at a time starting at the edges. You do not have to refine the gems, you sell them straight out. You can sell them at any outpost on the moons or sell them at the Admin offices at stations.

A full ROC of hadanite is about 255K aUEC earnings.

[coral flume]

Thanks for the write up!

It's a massive pain to get set up. I hope they streamline ship vehicle spawns in the future but I'm excited to get started this evening.

[north oyster]

Ship in ship spawn is on the wishlist

ROC mining use to be my number one activity.
Here is a pro tip - find and quantum travel to OM-1 above Aberdeen. Dive down to the planet from there, it will take about 4 minutes.

The reason you want to do that is because it is always daylight under the OM1 orbital marker

Hadinite is found on hot planets

[coral flume]

Amazing. I'm assuming you need the Pembroke for that sorte.

[chrome shard]

You can try without it but with larger amount of rocks you will need to stop mining and retreat on foot to your ship to cool down.

I personally do not wear it in case I meet some nasty player or get other problem which could cause I'd lose the Pembroke.

[north oyster]

Pembroke is about a 15k investment but worth every penny if you are going to spend time mining in the ROC. If you dive down from the OM-1, you really don't need to worry about marauders because they normally just go to QT points on the planet

OK 3.17 has been brutal, been trying to get to where I can ROC mine for 3 days and when I finally get on planet to start ... 30K

Good thing is that the Ping seems to work at about 1700 meters for gem deposits responding

Icons for all deposits will now only spawn at 1000 meters or so, gem deposits icon spawn at 300 meters

Scan is still busted so you will need to do a visual for the deposits to know if Hadanite or trash

[thin escarp]

@vagrant crystal check my guide pinned in this channel

for mole loadout

[vagrant crystal]

Ok I will thanks

[wary gust]

Would anyone be willing to teach me smuggling and how to start and everything?

[north oyster]

contraband isn't in a good place at the moment

The buy up for vice is extremely slow

Also, some of the outpost that buy them can't see your ship

((known bug))

[tulip roost]

Are there any goods that make small cargo ships shine specifically? Like Freelancer

Or is it basically the more cargo always better in current economy

[north oyster]

laranite can be purchased in small, also med supplies

[north oyster]

Sadly, yes atm

That will be changing Soon(tm)

Cargo refactor in 3.18 or 3.19 ... gonna be a big mess but it will lay the foundation for trade for smaller haulers like the FL or the Hull A

[tulip roost]

So what is the refactor supposed to really do for us?

[north oyster]

this change touches every single aspect of the game. It physicalizes the cargo

Actually, it physicalizes everything in the game

We can only speculate the true impact at this time of the change

3.17 introduces some of the persistency, streaming, and Quanta engine needed to implement this

That's why 3.17 is so brutal at the moment and is breaking a lot of things in the 'verse

[tulip roost]

Well, what I gather is that it'll introduce a lot of additional mechanics, like cargo loading, which will prolong game loops

I'm just hoping it'll pay off and not just make trade a less viable way to earn

[wary gust]

Cargo loading wont be in the game till the tractor beam get implemented most likely

[north oyster]

They will intro other magic for the concept to work. Plus they will also be delivering to our hanger and we may have to load the ships ourselves

[civic thorn]

sorta-mining-related; found this John Deere tractor design and thought it looked pretty familiar

[deep vector]

Argo - deer

[gaunt bough]

is there a difference between the lancet mh1 and 2 besides the size

[hollow sedge]

New ship release 🤔

[north oyster]

Only the size, I'll have to pull the specs but it seems they are pretty close overall. Other can range, all the power specs are the same (which makes no sense)

[gaunt bough]

thank you exactly what i was LF

[fair swallow]

nothing to see here just a stuck ramp for plowing space junk

[stoic hawk]

Had conflicting answers so far so I guess people just aren't sure but do active/completed refinery orders get wiped with a char rest? I'm stranded at Everus atm and I've got like a mil of quant cooking in ARC-L1 atm I don't want to lose

[wanton laurel]

So I just got into mining. I have a prospector with a lancet mining head and I’ve been mining quantanium but the return is much less than people say it is. What percentage should I be mining and where

[fair swallow]

@wanton laurel I'm new to mining as well but I use this

[wanton laurel]

Omg this helps a lot

Can I mine the 6k with a lancet?

[quasi dragon]

i would go for anything above 20%

[wanton laurel]

Does the lancet mining head make it so I can mine the 6k-7k

[quasi dragon]

not without modules

[fair swallow]

I'm not sure

[wanton laurel]

Ok

[proud tundra]

Lancet cant do 6k without modules. And even with, it takes forever. Helix is the way to go for that.

[thin escarp]

@proud tundra no

helix is not for prospectors lol

@wanton laurel check out my guide pinned in this channel

[proud tundra]

I wasnt referring to prospector, I was referring to the big rocks really 😄

[ashen trout]

Is there a mass threshold that the Prospector can’t mine? I’m struggling with a 5900 @ 31.89% - Lancet MH1, lifeline & stampede

[thin escarp]

@ashen trout I've done 7700 but it took a bit

used surges and stampede

[ashen trout]

I wish I had grabbed a surge, I strapped on a FLTR-L instead

I cracked it - took some maneuvering around to find the right spot 👊🏼

[wanton laurel]

Do you have one for solo miners

[thin escarp]

the pdf

@wanton laurel

[wanton laurel]

Yah it’s for groups

[north oyster]

What is it that you are finding lacking in your mining experience with the Prospector?

[wanton laurel]

Huh I just need to know what I should set my prospector up with and how to use it

[north oyster]

I think you mentioned earlier you already had the Lancet? The only other two things that are useful would be Surge (be careful with these) and a faster QT engine.

As to hunting grounds you have to primary spots: Lyria and Aaron's Halo

In Aaron's Halo there are 8 bands, I have found band 1 to have more Quantainium on average.

Others have enjoyed Band 4 and 6. Band 5 is the largest and most dense ring in the Halo

Lyria has much larger rocks than the Halo. The largest asteroid you will encounter is 5.1K in size where as I think on Lyria it tops at nearly 8K or more.

When the patch drops sometime in the next week or two, it will wipe all refinery jobs.

[north oyster]

Resetting your character purges everything associated with the account that isn't covered by persistency. Refinery jobs are not persistent. All ships get reset, etc. What is persistent are aUEC earned, Ships bought and (mostly) items purchased.

[stoic hawk]

Just as well I asked, didn't want to risk it so I got a bud to taxi me to an orbital station by my refinery, I'll just rent a lancer in the morning and slowly cart it all off for sale

[north oyster]

Wise choice

[grizzled bone]

How much does the top-tier delivery missions pay?

[shy crane]

Level 2 has 45k bunker delivery missions...haven't seen higher than that

[quasi dragon]

yeah level 2 is the highest

[earnest tendon]

Got a 5200 Quant Rock with 0.38 of Quant. Likely return is $226054.4 aUEC with a Max of $347776 aUEC. Anybody want to buy the rock?

[burnt pelican]

is refining hadonite worth it

[north oyster]

It's a gem, you don't refine it

You sell it straight out

[earnest tendon]

Got a 5200 Quant Rock with 38% of Quant. Likely return is $226,054 aUEC with a Max of $347,776 aUEC. Anybody want to buy the rock?

Any takers?

[burnt pelican]

i would love too however

i can't afford a prospector

is there any way to modify a rented prospector

[wanton laurel]

What are the prices

I’ll get back to you soon

[earnest tendon]

Just sold it. 50k for the rock

I'll post more later.

[dense knoll]

I want a gunship that holds a good amount of SCU for quant runs. Pretty much the Constellation Andromada but is there other ships like that?

[fair swallow]

@dense knoll A2 holds a good bit but like double the price of Andromada oh you said gunship

[dense knoll]

any idea on when the Taurus will have a functional tractor beam

[fair swallow]

no clue

[dense knoll]

yeah a gunship for hauling my refined stuff but enough firepower to defend. I guess andromada is the way to go

gunship/freight

[minor slate]

Can I park my cargo ships with stuff in them in everus and fly down to the surface with a smaller ship to sell?

Or do I have to take the ship with cargo down

[autumn cedar]

yes you can

but in 3.17 that won't be possible anymore

[minor slate]

Aww

Also, this will be my first time doing cargo. Any good things to look out for to buy and sell?

[autumn cedar]

1st thing to keep in mind, stock for commodities is shared across servers so for the more profitable ones you might need to wait for the stock to replenish.

currently the most popular items are agricium, laranite, med suppllies

[fair swallow]

Anyone mining right now? I have a 641k cluster i'm looking at

[autumn cedar]

also here's a web site to see where you can buy/sell and get your bearings with trade in general
https://sc-trade.tools/

be careful tho, SC is alpha and anything can happen during gameplay, which can derail your trade run

[minor slate]

I've been on sc trade tools. A little confusing but I'm sure I'll get it

[velvet grail]

How long do you have to get Quantainum back when mining it?

[sacred loom]

15 mins after u first extract

@velvet grail make sure u land on areas with landing pads. I landed at tram and Myers (no landing pad) yesterday with 800k worth of cargo and my ship just blew up for no reason while I was at the kiosk

[north oyster]

ROC Mining is back on the menu BOYZ!! Initial testing very promising with the ping changes

You have to recognize the different deposits but for the most part I picked up a signal on some hadanite deposits at 2500 meters in this case

[native drift]

Me running caargo many times be like

[dull isle]

any group for mining high value ore ?

[earnest tendon]

Got a 6100 Quant Rock with 27% of Quant. Likely return is $188,417 aUEC with a Max of $289,872 aUEC. Selling for $28,263. Any Takers

[wanton laurel]

Selling a 7,800k mass rock with 49.49% quantanium. dm to discuss prices

[buoyant hamlet]

dont know if you can transfer cargo iirc

[earnest tendon]

I am not transfering cargo. I have the rocks location for people who do not want to waste their time searching

I am not mining... I am selling DATA.

[buoyant hamlet]

ah I see

DM me

[earnest tendon]

Any Takers?

[errant galleon]

wheres the best place to mine with a prospector? i've been going all around aberdeen for around 30 mins and havent found a single piece of quantanium

[terse sable]

lyria

[earnest tendon]

Best place is where I sell my rocks. lol Lyria

[errant galleon]

oh

so lyria

thanks:)

[earnest tendon]

Got a 6100 Quant Rock with 27% of Quant. Likely return is $188,417 aUEC with a Max of $289,872 aUEC. Selling for $28,263. Any Takers

[errant galleon]

i'll take it

@earnest tendon

[north oyster]

I've wasted so many days trying to play 3.17, need some time in the Halo to get my brain back in gear

Glad to report that ROC Mining should be making a comeback in 3.17. I'm jazzed about that. Even though it is more involved and not as profitable (but close) as Prospector mining, it's a lot of fun to be out exploring on the planet surface. Besides, you can't see the Great Wall of Aberdeen in the Halo.

[buoyant hamlet]

dm

[north oyster]

Lyria and Aaron's Halo (Band 1) for quantainium

Aberdeen is only for ROC mining Hadinite

[earnest tendon]

ok. First come first serve

add me and we can discuss

[errant galleon]

got it

[foggy cloak]

can someone help me with mining i dont really understand it and cant get a good run in

[dull isle]

exovinc89

[thin escarp]

@foggy cloak I have a guide pinned in this channel

[bleak shell]

Is bexarite worth the trouble? I've only got a stock prospector since I picked up mining just today and I can't break any quantanium rocks with that setup

[earnest tendon]

Got a 5400 Quant Rock with 24% of Quant. Likely return is $148,262 aUEC with a Max of $228,096 aUEC. Selling for $22,239. Any Takers

[foggy cloak]

I’ll buy

[earnest tendon]

Got 4 Quant Rocks with 67.72 SCU of Quant. Likely return is $387,358 aUEC with a Max of $595,936 aUEC. Selling for $58,104. Any Takers

Got a 5400 Quant Rock with 24% of Quant. Likely return is $148,262 aUEC with a Max of $228,096 aUEC. Selling for $22,239. Any Takers

[simple river]

Ooooh I love this selling data thing! I wanna buy this type of shit once we have the new update so my refinery doesn't get wiped

[earnest tendon]

Got 2 Quant Rocks with 95.16 SCU of Quant. Likely return is $544,315 aUEC with a Max of $837,408 aUEC. Selling for $81,647. Any Takers

[fair slate]

Hey.

If you are still doing this I'll pay 35% if you jump into mining head with me 🙂

Gotta get as much mining in before CiG destroys everyone who enjoys mining next patch

If any of y'all wanna make money on mining better mine before this upcoming patch

Y'all about to get your other end torn apart by the patch if you enjoy mining

[hollow sedge]

why

what is cig doing

i just bought the new refining ship for the prospector loaner

[fair slate]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/4/thread/regarding-mining-rock-radar-detection-change-to-12
@hollow sedge

[dusky portal]

for finding ROC mining deposits, do they not show up on ping scan?

haven't been able to find any unless i'm literally hovering right over them

[north oyster]

Joker, do you own the ship or are you renting?

[north oyster]

IN this build, you can't see them until you are within 1000m or so, very difficult. 3.17 holds some great promise for ROC mining though. I had great luck testing in the PTU and pings of about 2000m or more returns for gem deposits

[north oyster]

I did too, excited about it

[dusky portal]

ah that's a pain, i think i'll wait for the next patch to get into mining then

[north oyster]

It'll be great, I love ROC mining and look forward to it returning to a viable earning game loop

[dusky portal]

to sell what i already have, do i need to move it to my ship when i go to a refinery?

[north oyster]

Yes, you need a cutty, FL or larger ship

Once refined you will take it like normal cargo to the TDD of choice. I use Area18 as a rule for myself

[dusky portal]

ah ok i've got a cutlass so that'll work

[north oyster]

the Ping isn't messed up, only the icons not pop up until 1200m or so. The returns for gem deposits is up and ROC mining might have a chance now. In the Halo testing I found I had to be careful because I would come up too hot on the asteroid because I was use to it popping up at 5K

Scan is still fubar, but I can live with that

I'm getting pings for large ores at over 5K, it is the icon that isn't popping up until much closer. I don't recall any 15K returns like in 3.16 but that isn't bad, imo

[fair slate]

yea seems to max out at around 10.1k

[coral flume]

Is stacking fixed in 3.17? Or do I have to manually transfer each piece of Hadanite from the Roc to ship?

[foggy cloak]

I’m renting the ship

[dense knoll]

how good is defense on the argo mole? and is the triple mining laser a noticeable improvement when mining asteroids

too bad it doesnt have a turret

[hollow sedge]

it might as well not have any guns

[marble crater]

I have pvp'd in the Mole and I highly recommend it lol

[thin escarp]

@foggy cloak yeah dont rent the prospector

your not gonna be able to mine the valuable stuff

[foggy cloak]

im kinda seeing that lol but im new and have no clue how im going to get 2mil to buy one

i just need help making 2 mill so i can buy one if anyone can help me doing that it would be amazing

[dense violet]

so i took mole to hur l5

to drop off product since arc l1 full

and no refinery

[thin escarp]

no such thing

as full

[dense violet]

7 jobs wont accept any more

[thin escarp]

thats impossible

[dense violet]

?

[thin escarp]

i literally had 18 workorders brewing until earlier

there is no limit

[dense violet]

if i leave the mole stored, pullout a diff ship and go back to arcl1 and transfer mole to there,

will it still be onboard

@thin escarp

[thin escarp]

u have to take th emole there

mole

[dense violet]

its gonna blow up

wont make it

rapid beeping when i stored it

[thin escarp]

you'll need to jettison

or lose the ship

[dense violet]

transfer wont work?

[thin escarp]

transfer what

u cant

[dense violet]

if I claim it there will it just lose cargo and not blow up?

so i dont have to go pull all my modules and drills off

[thin escarp]

claiming you'll lose modules

and the load

ur components will stay

modules will not

[fair slate]

Add me in game, I'll let you use my prospector with mods

Then you can mine and i'll pay ya 85% of what you mine

Just impound the ship, and I'll get ya paid when it hits refinery. Can be up to 200k after refining cost

if you get hte hang of it, I'll just pay ya the full amount minus refining once it hits refinery (up to a mill)

rest after that will be after its hauled to area 18 (up to 19 hours later). They're about to nerf mining so i'm tryin to get as much auec as possible until my interest in mining is killed by the patch

[foggy cloak]

ok im down with that

@fair slate I added you

[fair slate]

Accepted

[foggy cloak]

I’m joining ur game now

do you wanna hop in one of the vcs?

[minor slate]

how often do commodities restock?

[fair slate]

10 MINUTES

usually between the 2nd and 4th minute

[minor slate]

Nice

I'm doing cargo around hurston. What would be good to buy and sell? All I've been getting is laranite and some random stuff

[fair slate]

SC-TRADE.TOOLS

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522C2%2520Hercules%2522,%2522investment%2522:1200000%257D

Change ship and investment

it'll give you routes

[earnest tendon]

Maybe next time. Pop into voice chat and bug me.

I think I might dig into selling Rick's I find. Especially after the next update when they make it harder to find.

[earnest tendon]

I don't think it will be as bad as you think man. Lol

[lyric nest]

so quant is the best thing to mine. right?? but what are the other ores likes are they atleast decent??

[fair slate]

I tested it on ptu

its worse than you can possibly imagine

[earnest tendon]

I get that. It will be very hard to go solo... so... the how may change. It may become more group oriented to get the kind of success. We will see. I could see me continuing to sell rocks.

[fair slate]

As it stands, ERTs outperform any group activity mining.

[marsh gulch]

How is mining nerfed?

[brazen thistle]

Wait, this goes also for passive modules? I thought you will lost only those which have certain number of uses.

[earnest tendon]

All modules in the mining laser gets lost. Passive or not

[shell nacelle]

wheres the best place to sell refined quantanium

[fair slate]

You'll find out next patch

[stoic hawk]

Any moles around want to pay a finder's fee? Got an 8.4k 48%er here

https://i.gyazo.com/9b09bf3b6012481a844803e53315a13e.png

Scanner isn't working but yeah

Tbh that could be a 6 instead of an 8 I have 4 pixels to work with here

[rancid barn]

Rocks like that make me wish I had a mole.

7.77 instability.

[stoic hawk]

Yeah I hung aroundfor 10 mins or so then just sadly chewed up all the baby 20%ers around it

[ionic lintel]

yeah need a mole for sure on that one, or 2 or 3 prospectors with lancets

[fair slate]

Contact me next time

[sacred loom]

U can crack it in a Prossy with double surge stampede if u know what ure upto

[ionic lintel]

yes you can, not something I would recommend to the masses though lol

[sacred loom]

totes agree. fun to learn though

[gentle acorn]

Is there a better way to place cargo in Aurora or just inside cockpit? lol

[wanton laurel]

Can anyone go scouting for rock for me? We can discuss payment in dms

[elfin heath]

My friend is mining & he is wondering if he buy's a module and better laser on a ship he rented for 1 day will the parts he buy's and attaches go back with the ship or will he keep that for the next time he rent/buys the mining ship?

[wanton laurel]

You can’t change defaults on a rented anything

You can’t change parts

[elfin heath]

Gotcha

[thin escarp]

@shell nacelle a18

@stoic hawk jesus that rock juice

[stoic hawk]

Don't remind me, I'm still in pain from leaving it behind

That's like a 700k rock

[north oyster]

@fair slate I saw you replied to me but I can't seem to find the post. I don't think that mining is going to get the death nail in 3.17. The changes, what little chance I got to test it in the PTU (it's been way less stable), didn't curtail my mining. I did have to adjust for the nearly 80% reduction in distance of the icon popping up. First couple of times I came in WAY too hot towards the asteroids and about collided. The PING changes as it relates to small deposits is very encouraging to me. I am confident that our game play isn't what will be the ultimate gameplay any way. But I do hope the good parts of it says (earnings, adventure, etc).

[fair slate]

With how much time it takes as it is now, ERT/VHRT group (rotation) is going to be 2x as profitable in 3.17 for a solo player. Right now in a 2 man group 1 person scoutting then jumping in your mole... its barely more profitable than ERTs.

And by barely, I mean BARELY

[fair slate]

Wait till tonight during PTU event bruh 😛

[north oyster]

Ok, keep me posted. I guess I have had a different outcome in the PTU. ROC mining was great (except the 30k way too often). They fixed the "on the same planet" claim issue we use to have in prior builds. The ping for small deposits is massively improved. The Halo mining pretty much seems exactly like prior builds except for the distance modification. I haven't done ship mining in the past 3 or 4 builds because if Infinite Loading issues, but I'll head back out and give it another shot.

Scanning is still totally screwed up, if not worst in the PTU

[radiant flower]

why is it going to be more profitable than in 1.16 ?

[north oyster]

Speculation is the change in the ping/scan function would contribute to this

[wanton laurel]

Hey is a full 32SCU of quantanium a good haul?

[fair slate]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/4/thread/regarding-mining-rock-radar-detection-change-to-12
@i get high off pvp

[fair slate]

You will see, if CiG pushes this change ima switch games lol. I enjoy mining, pvp only exists here n there... helping new players out by mining with them to help them get ships is chill

Y'all gon see, its fucked.

[autumn cedar]

If you're in a prospector, ofc dude. That's 100% jackpot

[north oyster]

after refining, if you're using CRU-L1 with the 3% bonus, you will have roughly 31.36 SCU of product. So that is a little over 275K aUEC for that haul. (less refinery cost, fuel to deliver to market, etc)

be sure to use the correct refinery process also

[dense knoll]

Ferron squad

[fervent plover]

am i doing something wrong trying to mine in prospector on Lyria? I can't get ANY rocks to scan. I locate them with my ping and get in close enough but nothing will scan either in scanning mode or mining mode. The only time it scans is when it's still just a box icon and that only gives me the estimated mass

[wanton laurel]

I use ARC L1 should I be using that one?

[stoic hawk]

Scanner almost never works for me on Lyria, I just zoom look to see if it's quant or not and if it is I go closer an use mining scanner- no sense trying to use the real scanner anymore

[north oyster]

It's 3% difference. ARC-L1 is much easier location for those who farm on Lyria. I use CRU-L1 because I mine Aaron's Halo almost exclusively at this time

[wanton laurel]

Is Aaron’s halo better?

[north oyster]

No, not really, to me it is just easier and more convenient. Lyria has larger rocks

[stoic hawk]

Personally I prefer Lyria as every cluster of rocks always has Quant so I can be lazy and scan until I find a cluster, but you'll never find something you can't crack in the Halo so YMMV

[wanton laurel]

Yah I guess

[north oyster]

In 3.17 the new ping style may not reveal if you have a cluster or not

Still testing in the PTU on this

[fervent plover]

what's the max mass a single mining laser can break? when i finally find a quantainium rock with a big enough quant % to be worth it, the rock is like 6400+ mass and i can't break it

if you happen to know that off the top of your head lol

[stoic hawk]

I find it tricky to crack anything over 5.8 personally, but I'm lazy and only running passive modules

[wanton laurel]

If your in a prospector and you have the lancet you can like anything under 6k but not over without modules

[north oyster]

Depends on your skill with Surge and Stampede, but there is a size that you can't maintain is long enough in green to harvest it

The new gadgets coming in 3.17 may change this part

[stoic hawk]

Generally if it's over 5 I know I need to make some effort instead of just 100% on a random spot but honestly I'm lazy af

[north oyster]

To be honest, the Lancet isn't suppose to be able to do what it is doing in game at this time anyway. So the meta status of that laser head might change in a few patches. I'm just speculating, but I could see that change coming.

[wanton laurel]

So what is the new meta gonna be in 3.17

Bc im generally new to mining so I don’t know what most things mean. Also I don’t know what their changing in 3.17

[north oyster]

No new meta in 3.17, I was speculating on a change that will come eventually to mining, but that could be next year, etc

You can go exploring in 3.17 if you wish, just sign up for it on your account on the webpage

[bleak shell]

Where can I find the best Bexalite deposits?

[north oyster]

humm, I think SC Trade Tools has a locator

[bleak shell]

Alright I'll check it out thx

[minor slate]

Is there a way to know when stuff restocks?

[north oyster]

https://sc-trade.tools/deposits/Obsidian Deposit

Looks like Aberdeen and Daymar are the best spots for the Obsidian deposits

[bleak shell]

Thanks!

[north oyster]

Yes, SC Trade tools reports the restock cycle for shops

[bleak shell]

I'll make sure to check them out

[north oyster]

For restock values, look at a specific ore or commodity and it will show you the max amount and the restock per minute. This is a game wide event, so all servers are pulling from this pool.

[rain shadow]

There’s a game wide event?

[errant galleon]

hey wheres the best place to mine with a roc?

im looking for hadanite

[lean oyster]

Aberdeen prob

[errant galleon]

ive searched for like 30 mins trying to find hadanite on aberdeen

i never found it

[lean oyster]

searching in a ship right? Not just driving around?

[north oyster]

Aberdeen is the place, the issue is the Ping doesn't show it unless you are right on top of the deposit. In 3.17 this is mostly fixed and will work much better. Right now that has been a problem since 3.14 release.

[errant galleon]

oh

got it

thanks

[rain shadow]

Yeah much better on 3.17

[vestal ravine]

Any roc miners here?

[dull isle]

i have a big hauler if someone need to move their refine stuff around , i used it for my stuff and work very good , we can discust a price

[dense violet]

you cant share cargo like that

refinery material has to be transported in persons own ship

@dull isle

[dull isle]

okay

im trying to do my first cargo trip

[vestal ravine]

I saw some diamonds on Aerial but the terrain was rough to fit a Cutty in. I pointed the nose at the deposit but never found the standing stone shapes. Bummer. The roc moved during the fly in and the rear wheels blocked me from getting to the ramp. So I crawled under it in a Pembroke suit! The roc was stored in the Cutty and its been spawning okay. Three trips out no actual mining. Will try Aberdeen one more time.

[errant galleon]

would you guys rather prefer the roc of prospector for mining?

idk which one i should rent out rn

[weary onyx]

roc can't mine quantanium

[errant galleon]

so prospector?

because i look forever for quantanium in places like lyria and aberdeen yet i cant find any

[weary onyx]

finding quant is very tedious lol

[errant galleon]

i suppose

[weary onyx]

if you rent a roc look for hadanite

[errant galleon]

which one is more beneficial?

[deep vector]

Lyria literally filled with quant

[hollow sedge]

astroid belt

[errant galleon]

asteroid belt is the best?

[hollow sedge]

yes

[viral heath]

hadanite is worse

i might get the ds just for easier gem pickup

think the ds can fit the maxlancer?

[deep vector]

Should

[sullen parcel]

What can I mine with the stock laser in the prospector?

Global Chat won't help so I'm asking here

Is it the instability that is making this thing a piece of turd to pop?

I'm giving up on it

[errant galleon]

how much percent should a rock contain quantanium for to take?

[sullen parcel]

I think I need to upgrade the stock laser

I'll try it later when I can afford the bigger laser

[mossy shuttle]

You need a Lancet

[errant galleon]

how do i jettison cargo?

[deep vector]

25+

[deep vector]

Alt+j, not sure if it works

[errant galleon]

yeah it did

everything thats 25 percent or higher i cant seem to mine with a prospector

its a rental

what should i do?

[deep vector]

Garbage

Buy one and get a lancet head

Over 5.122 prospector won’t work

Mass

[karmic socket]

I can lend you mine. It has a Lancet head.

[errant galleon]

sorry, i got off early

i mean the reason i’m mining is to save up for an actual ship

i’m living off rentals rn

the only ship i actually own is the aurora

[brazen thistle]

Try Roc mining then. Full roc of hadenite is approx 230k. So one full carfo and you can buy your own. How fast you will fill it, its matter of your luck for minable rocks.

Dont think in prospector without quantunium you could earn that much.

@errant galleon

[errant galleon]

i’ll do that tmr, thanks sonix:)

[weary idol]

It's time for my biannual visit to Star Citizen:
Is trading in a C2 Hercules worth it by now? Or can I go back to lying down?

[proud tundra]

Trading still isnt worth it really lol

[sacred loom]

I broke a 5.7k rock on a lancet head yesterday with no modules

[sacred loom]

Spend 600-800k to make around 120 and the chance of loosing it all if a pirate gets your ship or you get Star Citizen’d

[deep vector]

I broke 6.1 on pure luck with instability, so?)

[sacred loom]

You said the max size on lancet is 5.1 so I was just saying I’ve gone larger than that

That is all

[deep vector]

Again, max size in halo is 5.1, same is known to be max for lancet. You may brake more, you may not brake even 5k if server bad

[sacred loom]

I don’t wana argue. My point is, you can break larger than 5.1k on a lancet head. Gona leave it at that mate

[gleaming stirrup]

ive done 5.8k on lancet

[weary idol]

Thx mate

[karmic socket]

Just broke 5.1228 on Lancet with Brandt modules

[karmic socket]

Server has been behaving beautifully today 🥰

[deep vector]

Couldn’t break 6.1 with mole and three different heads) servers sometimes are ew

[earnest tendon]

would anybody be interested in buying Quant Rocks from our Scouts? Private message me.

we have been doing it casually but the FPOV want to start doing that more efficiently and effectively.

[gleaming stirrup]

yeah i think i got super lucky tbh

[toxic parrot]

does anybody have a good mining spot for quantonium?

[hollow sedge]

the astroid belt. i hear its the best

[toxic parrot]

aight man, tnx

[sacred loom]

or Lyria is full of quant to

[fair slate]

press the button

[fair slate]

3 lancet mh2s is all you need, dont believe the youtube noobs

vaux c2, stampede + XTR Ls

cheapest loadout, ez af

[sacred loom]

Or just a single Brandt and the Lancet and into the Halo

made millions

[lapis musk]

Anyone bold enough to be mining right now. Need to make some money but worried patch could drop.

[sacred loom]

Ive beeen mining, patch is soon. Just gotta empty refinery quickly

[dense temple]

oh will the patch get rip of stuff im refining? new here sorry lol

[primal badge]

what?

[shell wren]

I dont think the latch is dropping today

Patch*

[signal shard]

So patches typically wipe out any in-progress refining jobs you have?

[dense temple]

another question after i refine stuff where can i sell it at after i load it up on my ship?

[shell wren]

TDD

On major ports like lorville or orisob

Or arcport

The surface ports

[dense temple]

gotcha thank you

[signal shard]

Do yall just typically rent a cargo mover if you don't already have one? Which one is the best bang for buck on rental for moving quant?

[frosty hearth]

Where’s the best place for ROC mining ? I know it’s not as good as ships but I wanna try it lol

[verbal cargo]

Aberdeen, bring a pembroke suit

[frosty hearth]

Thanks 🙂

[undone socket]

can we buy cargo containers would like to test it, if so where?

hand held boxes?

[plush stratus]

when the next update comes out are we going to lose the ores we have in the refinery?

[hollow sedge]

Would you say ROC mining is fairly lucrative

[plush stratus]

not worth, save for a prospector^

[hollow sedge]

That’s the plan, I’m 1.3 mil away so a little bit of a grind to go

[undone socket]

can we buy cargo containers would like to test it, if so where?
[7:54 PM]
hand held boxes?????

[plush stratus]

yeah my friend just bought a roc and i bought a prospector at the same time and he makes nowhere near the amount of money i do

[hollow sedge]

Yeah a prospect for quant is just next level, that’s my plan and I’m going got get a cutty by upgrading my Aurora

[plush stratus]

i have a bunch of quant in the refinery, now my concern is i dont have a freighter big enough to remove it from the refinery to sell

concerned i might lose it when the next update happens

[hollow sedge]

Just eating dinner than going to grind for a few hours

[tender quiver]

Where is good location for mining quartz?

[hollow sedge]

When I get my cutty I don’t mind helping transport if needed

That way you can get it gone and sold

[plush stratus]

lyria, but dont aim for quartz because it makes you hardly any money

[plush stratus]

doesn't work, friend with a cutty tried helping

[undone socket]

can we buy hand heldboxes would like to test it, if so where?
???

[hollow sedge]

Oh weird, a cutty should do it from the refinery

[plush stratus]

the thing is

[tender quiver]

What should I mine within quantum ?

[plush stratus]

if he parks it at the refinery i can't transfer my quant to a ship i dont own

it has to be my own ship, thats the issue'

[plush stratus]

save up for a prospector

[hollow sedge]

Ahhh shit yeah, it may work if you are in the same party maybe

[plush stratus]

unfortunately it does not

[hollow sedge]

Ahh that’s a shame

[plush stratus]

so im trying to figure out a cheap freighter i can get before the update happens and i run the risk of losing my 370k worth i have in there

[tender quiver]

I have it

[plush stratus]

tip for finding quant, it never spawns as a single rock, look for groups or at least 2 rocks in the same spot

lyria

[hollow sedge]

If you have the funds maybe try and upgrade in the pledge store, it costs real money but really the only viable option if it does disappear

[plush stratus]

id never spend that much money on a game tbh

star citizen not worth that much

no game is xd

[hollow sedge]

Fair point

[wraith tulip]

Anyone fancy doing some mining?

[shell wren]

Where at?

[tiny nova]

False, most my best rocks were in their own

[plush stratus]

ive been mining for a while now and never ever seen a single quant rock before

theres always another nearby

[shell wren]

Nobody likes cave mining right?

[mossy shuttle]

Single quant rocks definitely exist. It's just more efficient to only stop for multiple because they're always quant

[mossy shuttle]

Rent a Freelancer from the console at the cargo centre in a station that has one

[wraith tulip]

Anywhere

[shell wren]

Im on aberdeen

Im down

[bold yew]

It is not that you can't find single quant rocks, is that if you see more than one you know it is quant. It saves a lot of time on scanning. You don't even need to resolve the scan if the mass number in the upper left is large, is quant.

[lilac hedge]

This isn't accurate anymore is it?

Isn't the 32 SCU crate 32 SCU's in size?

[pallid temple]

Its still accurate, but a big 32 SCU sized crate still has 32 SCU crates in it, and you gotta take into account the actual crate element of an SCU

[lilac hedge]

That doesn't check out, a 32 SCU container isn't big enough to fit 32 single SCU sized crates, someone did the comparison on spectrum awhile back

but also

[haughty seal]

u will loose it in the next update

sell asap

[brazen thistle]

if you are worry about what you have there, rent a cutty for a day and sell it. its not that expensive and 370k is not much so you should be able transport it in 2 runs.

IF you have that money mostly in Quant ofc. if you mined trash roids and have 370k worth of money in it, hen it will be A LOT of cargo 😄

so you might need something bigger.

[fair slate]

rent a connie from orison

96 scu you can move plenty load by load

[stoic hawk]

Dropping out of Q into the Halo 1600m away from a 42% rock

[brazen thistle]

lucky you

[twilit ice]

Band 1 has been mega spicy these past few days 🥵🥵🥵

43%, 24.5% & 27%, and 32%

We eating good tonight boys

[vocal herald]

this is a really stupid question but how do i start mining? i wanted to switch from cargo to mining any videos to watch or pointers?

[fervent plover]

there's this little playlist that might be helpful: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMd2J1iNJCMeRTQ6z3IryoICCKVwVCEdz

I also watched this one to kinda get started, i also just got into mining a few days ago: https://youtu.be/GD15Y4elt5E

I've had some trouble mining quant in the Aaron Halo belt, maybe just unlucky but I've ran into a LOT of bugged mineable rocks that were likely quantainium but refused to scan. I've since moved on to mining on Lyria which is much better for finding quantainium, but I can't get the rocks to scan until I am >200m away from them so that's a bummer AND a lot of the 30+% to 40+% quant rocks i find on Lyria are in the 6000+ mass range which makes breaking them kinda difficult as a solo prospector miner.

I've since started using an active mining module combo that has made it easier, though. I've started using the Surge + Stampede + Optimum modules which makes breaking those bigger rocks much easier solo.

[thin escarp]

@vocal herald I have a guide pinned in this channel and I can send ya my yt videos

[ashen trout]

I have only encountered a single instance of a double rock cluster with no quant.

[dense violet]

if you want to ride along in my mole and get a taste for it my crew will be doing some trips later on

~4hrs

[vocal herald]

that sounds awesome although i am pretty busy today, will you be doing one tomorrow?

[dense violet]

likely yes

dm me tmmrw

[vocal herald]

alright

[elfin heath]

How do i take gems and store them into a small cargo box

https://youtu.be/11UErEICXiU?t=556 I'm asking for a friend, he watched this video and is convinced it's not working

I time stamped the video to the section where he turns his bag full of gems into a box, my friend is trying to do this

[karmic socket]

Umm, where can I rent a Caterpillar?

[marble crater]

they got rid of boxing gems in 3.15 I believe

[elfin heath]

So the only way to do it now is generating those boxes yourself

[marble crater]

not sure you can tbh. just bring a second backpack in your ship

[fair slate]

I am paying scouts up to 50%

To scout rocks for me, you get paid when it hits the refinery

i'll cap out at up to 500k per person rest to be paid when its turned into area 18

Openings for this close in 2 hours 48 minutes (i'll likely have more scouts). Contact me asap if you want in on this.

[earnest tendon]

Got 4900 Quant Rock with 49% of Quant. Likely return is $274,674 aUEC with a Max of $422,576 aUEC. Selling for $41,201. Any Takers

Got 3 Quant Rocks with 80.48 SCU of Quant. Likely return is $460,346 aUEC with a Max of $708,224 aUEC. Selling for $69,052. Any Takers

Any Takers?

[earnest tendon]

I got two clusters. Come get them Northern

[simple river]

Outfitting my mole now and I'm ready to buy from u, and suggestions on things to buy while I'm at it?

[earnest tendon]

not sure. a mole?

a solo mole?

[simple river]

Yup

[earnest tendon]

standard stuff I guess.

[simple river]

Got the mining dunno if I need gadgets

[earnest tendon]

solo mole in gravity is rough

[simple river]

Oh shit really?

[earnest tendon]

yeah. Tend to get a lot of desync right now

even by yourself

unless you got a crew, it can be very hard in gravity

[simple river]

Oh well I'll give it a go

[earnest tendon]

ok. Well... I got one hell of a cluster for you.

[simple river]

Perfect

[fair slate]

i have 4 scouts atm bro

[dusky kraken]

anyone seeking a crew member for MOLE?

i work for cheap!

[deep vector]

Define cheap?

[tawny path]

😂

[fair slate]

I'm doing more mining tomorrow

Will likely do Pyro methods tho so cut be a bit less like 40%

Paying pretty much soon as it hits refinery

[dense violet]

@dusky kraken

[dusky portal]

anyone know roughly the laranite income per hour in a prospector?

[deep vector]

Small

You barely find it

[tawny path]

https://uexcorp.space/commodities:CORU

[slate crest]

whats a good cargo run for a conny?

[tawny path]

check the commodity list that is in the journal

[slate crest]

this one?

[tawny path]

no, in game hit F1 and go to journal and it will tell you the overstock understock spots. I have found that most profitable, trade routes on that website are good too

[slate crest]

ok ty and what is a UEX rating?

[tawny path]

you can put in the prices and see what you will make. if there is not already a route there

[autumn cedar]

👋 rock breakers and box movers

[deep vector]

Those are still comparable to straight titanium bullshittery

At least it gives you variety to chose from

[mossy fern]

whats the reason the guide reccommends the FLTR-L instead of the FLTR-XL?

[silk ridge]

The XL costs alot more for only a little bonus

Mostly not worth it.

[final coral]

Is smuggling viable? New-ish player here. Only loop I haven't messed with yet.

[silk ridge]

I personally think the FLTRs are useless unless you go for low percentage rocks. Most rocks with high percentages have enough 100% pieces so you don't need it. xD

[silk ridge]

not really worth it unless you have fun with it. In this case :yes

[final coral]

Fun? Never heard of it. What are the profit margins like?

[frozen locust]

anyone looking for scouts or someone to join in?

[north oyster]

are you using a rental?

[north oyster]

Vice isn't a career at this time, you can buy a lot but selling it is a new adventure in pain. I'd suggest testing with very small amounts and see how it goes for you. Otherwise, this type of trade isn't a good earner

[chilly perch]

where is the best spot for mining Quantainium? I've been looking for ages and found none

[north oyster]

Two places: Lyria (at specific spots) and Aaron's Halo (specific spots but overall has Quan scattered though out it) @chilly perch

[lapis kiln]

Anyone wanna do some mining with me, just started mining and haven’t figured out much yet.

[thin escarp]

@lapis kiln check out my guide pinned in this channel

also I can send ya some of my yt guides

dm me if ya want

@chilly perch

@final coral smuggling no viable unless u enjoy pain and suffering and selling a few auec worth at a time.

[chilly perch]

Any specific spots which have a quantum marker near?

[silk ridge]

I'd look for spots away from quant Markers ... unless you don't mind pirates

[full lintel]

HUR-L3, pretty much all you’ll find there!

[chilly perch]

I’ve looked at HUR-L3 lol

[full lintel]

I’m sorry, should have specified “In 3.17”.

[dusky portal]

was thinking about it. but if the pay rate on a rental isn't too great i'll stick to mercenary work until I can buy my own prospector and fit it for quant

[silk ridge]

Isn't HUR-L3 even riskier than Lyria? xD

[toxic ridge]

Depends where you are mining. Lyria has a very easy blockade location that people can set up to catch miners returning.

[silk ridge]

I never fly direct route back from Lyria. I always fly over a non-refinery location to avoid that. ... doesn't help if the refinery itself is camped. xD

[toxic ridge]

Well obviously 😄 Gotta love the padrammers and people who just start blasting

[silk ridge]

That's why I never wait until last minute. I always plot the route to another refinery before arrival at my destination... just to be sure. Always a close call, but better than getting shot to pieces.

[toxic ridge]

Yea I never let it get lower than 10 mins.

If I can help it, of course

[north oyster]

yes, that would be best. You can make money with a rental but it is not the golden egg that you get with Quantainium

[toxic ridge]

+1 Recommend on that. Better to buy a Prospector and then rent the cargo ship when you need it.

2.1m isn't easy solo to start off but it's doable and easier in a group.

[north oyster]

Also you can work with other mining groups and earn good coin while learning

[tardy flower]

https://youtu.be/npwGK_SV_zY

[ornate tusk]

Man just 30 minutes with ROC and i got 100k

forgot how nice it is starting off

[vital stag]

ROC is the Ground Vehicel one right?

[fair slate]

it may be best to rent a connie and do bounty missions tbh

security contractor missions can get you 15k just chillin while cops kill the crims

[mild pumice]

Do all the delivery companies do those 45k delivery missions once you rep up or is it only Ling?

[gritty mesa]

Anyone need a scout?

[north oyster]

you're going to LOVE 3.17 then. The ping for gem deposits is way way better than it's been since 3.14

[ornate tusk]

Oh thank goodness.

Hopefully the also fix some more of the ROC bugs with extraction.

[north oyster]

ROC mining use to be my happy place, I'm jazzed about the potential again

Yes, the extraction is fixed too

[ornate tusk]

I usually only do ROC until I get the prospector.

renting helps alot.

[north oyster]

I like having both because you can change up

[ornate tusk]

Im still not good at prospector yet, but im kinda getting it down

Whenever I can purchase the prospector itself and customize it then it'll be much better.

[old lake]

Are mining gadgets additive or multiplicative

[north oyster]

only hours in the seat will fix that with mining in the Prospector, but once you have the hang of it, every time you go out in her is a 200K+ aUEC trip

[stoic hawk]

^ What Tripper said, I got to my Prospector on Friday, spent everything I had on it + Lancet/Passive mods and I just bought my Taurus today. That wasn't constantly grinding either, just being picky with what I hit.

[novel harness]

How much do mining gadgets go for?

[autumn cedar]

Cornerstone already has prices for 3.17, so here
https://finder.cstone.space/FPSMiningMods

[novel harness]

How do I use that

Nvm

[earnest lion]

Do mining heads persist through ship claims? So if I put a Helix I on my Prospector then claimed it would it still be on it?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[ornate tusk]

Man I've been having the worst luck with my prospector.

[gaunt fiber]

@earnest lion - mining heads do, modules/consumables do not.

[bleak schooner]

Can someone help me with mining basics?

[earnest lion]

Thanks!

[frozen locust]

How much is it to buy a prospector not rent one

[ornate tusk]

2,061,000 aUEC

[terse sable]

how long until this expanse that i bought will be flyable? is there any time frames ? or even guesses lol?

[frozen locust]

Oh is the hull series out yet?

[twilit ice]

Hull A will be when 3.17 drops

[frozen locust]

Eta on that?

[twilit ice]

~1-2 Weeks

Definitely sooner than later

[icy phoenix]

@frozen locust whenever you want to know pricing, if you google search "Star Citizen 'Ship Name'" Click on the Wiki Link (Starcitizen.tools or Starcitizen.Fandom) those are normally the 2nd & 3rd recommended link. Those pages will show you In Game Cost to buy, and its rented price if it has one, and its real money in the pledge store price. Also will tell you which of the 2 ship stores you can buy it at (new Deal or Astro Armada) plus it will tell you all the other details like cargo space, turrets, etc etc

they also tell you if a ship is in game or still in concept / production

[small basin]

Hey, mining fam. Can anyone confirm that there are 8-9k mass rocks in the Belt, either in the PU or PTU?

[hollow sedge]

I just purchased a prospector and need help with mining and equip this ship with all the bells and whistles. Also a noob!

[shell wren]

https://youtu.be/CzbHbCC5ihs

[hollow sedge]

@shell wren thank you!

[sacred loom]

Vk00 QT dive if your just doing short trips. I love mine

[fair slate]

This is going to be outdated next patch

[fair slate]

Next patch it is getting nerfed

Get as much mined as you can, lancet MH1 (arcL1) with Vaux C2, stampede

you can break rocks up to 4850 with no issue

[shell wren]

Hey you got room for one more on your crew?

[fair slate]

Alternative to lyria

[shell wren]

You got room for one more?

Guess not

[fair slate]

Was about to take a break in a few

moved about 450 scu of quant

Paying scouts 50% really doesn't leave much profit tho, I could get more money running Group ERTs

[hollow sedge]

I just spent money on the helix 2 for the prospector. Money I don’t have ugh should of seen the guide 1st

[marble crater]

Oof

Hopefully you can sell the Helix 2 in 3.17

[fair slate]

What's your ig @hollow sedge

I'll send you money for a lancet

[hollow sedge]

All good I have the lancet, surge and vaux c3

Going to Lydia now to get my money back by tomm

Global chat sent me money

[wind flax]

anybody want to team up for some mining? i'm in a rental prospector so i need someone to break the QT rocks i find.

[gray bolt]

freelancer max > taurus

i want my max back lol

[north oyster]

I did the same thing and turned around and had to buy the MAX with ingame aUEC. Missed that big bertha ship too much

[marble crater]

I want the Connie rework

That metal strut gotta go

[north oyster]

concur, that will certainly happen one day soon(tm)

[supple wadi]

im really new to star citizen and i want to try mining to make some money, can anyone throw me some tips or answer some of my questions? I know the basics and im going to rent a prospector, i just have some other random questions

[hollow sedge]

@supple wadi https://youtu.be/CzbHbCC5ihs

[zenith sail]

still searching?

[frozen locust]

whats better to have a ursa rover or a ROC ?

[indigo wolf]

For making money or for fun

ROC is way better at making money Ursa is just for fun

[deep vector]

Why?

[wind flax]

i am if you're still down

[frozen locust]

so i got a ROC anyone wanna teach me how to mine with it?

[wind flax]

i can give you a hand

[frozen locust]

fuck yea tnks whats your SC name so i can add you

[zenith sail]

I'm all mined out for the day, I'm afraid. Feel free DM and add me though, I'll join next time

[tawny path]

looking to roc mine or mole mine

[vestal canyon]

Anyone with a mole wanna come get some rocks we scouted?

[thin escarp]

@supple wadi check out my guide pinned in this channel too

@hollow sedge I also have a guide pinned with tons of loadouts and tips tricks how toos where toos

[scarlet eagle]

freelancer max or c2 for selling quant?

[thin escarp]

i use a c2 to sell my mole runs

[fair slate]

c2 is best tbh, freelancer max be getting SKETCHY when you upgrade it]

C2 is smooth af too

[scarlet eagle]

👍

[twilit ice]

Is it a bug that loaded quant never appears in the cargo hold? I like seeing the fruits of my labor

[gleaming stirrup]

not a bug

just doesnt appear

[twilit ice]

Depression

[tawny path]

Anyone mining?

[marble crater]

hell yeah just did a 78scu haul bring on the refinery wipe😆

[tawny path]

Wish I could find those🥲

I wish the update would just drop already

[deep vector]

You love to live dangerously tbh

[deep vector]

Did 71 two days ago

1d15h ferron

[marble crater]

Nice run! I feel I'm tempting the wipe gods but whatever lol

[deep vector]

First day on pledged mole, first decent run ever

Today is selling time

[fair slate]

it will not

for at least a week

[fair slate]

hell yea bro, and hell no. I moved 500 scu today, and need to move 491 scu in a few hours

May do another 400ish scu today in mining, if I can get enough scouts to keep rocks coming

[fair slate]

You wanna do some scouting?

[tawny path]

What’s the pay?

[fair slate]

Even split, when the rock is greater than 100 scu aka 5000 mass I land the mole you jump in... i break rocks you extract. I drop you off, you scout the next rock while I turn it into the refinery

We run Pyro for the refining method so we take a bit of a hit, but each refining contract comes with a screenshot so you know exactly what is going on, complete transparency.

Contracts come with timestamps from windows with calender info so everything is seen for what it is

[fair slate]

50%

[zenith sail]

Supposedly in the cargo refactoring that's one of the changes, Quant will be physical boxes like any other material

[deep vector]

Northern is legit, take my word

[zenith sail]

^^^

[fair slate]

6ish mill paid out in the last 4 days give or take 82ish k

amount made per hour does not surpass ERT/VHRT group farming though, at least solo.

[opal cargo]

Can u sell refined ore at Orison ?

[fair slate]

iF YOU COULD

it would be here

[fair slate]

You can only sell it at Loreville, Area18, or New Babbage TDD centers

[opal cargo]

TDD centers ?

Thanks found it , TDD at Orision are on Cloudview center

[gray bolt]

Parked my ship on bezdek ... went to buy some commodities and when i got out the ship dissapeared now i gotta claim it

[fair slate]

wait theres a place on orison that you can sell quant?

bruh you gotta share this info with us.

SS the spot

[opal cargo]

Iverview center

u have a TDD

[fair slate]

I'll send ya 50k to SS the spot and post here

[rancid barn]

It's at the TDD. It's across from the hospital, I think. I was just there, unfortunately.

[marble crater]

how are you only making 82K/Hour?

[fair slate]

again, 50k y'all

[opal cargo]

TDD on left

[fair slate]

the 82k is how off the 6 mill paid out is

+-

[marble crater]

how many hours were you playing?

[fair slate]

name?

[opal cargo]

expatr

[fair slate]

sent

[fair slate]

had 5 scouts, no idea bud

its a lot of mining runs, tons of surge + stampede spam .... used about 60ish stampede mods the last few days

[gray bolt]

damnit lost 300k scu of cargo rippppppp

[hoary hinge]

are "clear site of contraband" missions currently bugged?
no contraband, no baddies.

[marble crater]

gotta wait up top till all the drugs/enemies have loaded in (should see a counter). still a buggy mission even if you wait up top tbh

[hoary hinge]

Ahh I see
well I did wait up top til my I-was-taking-damage hypothermia abated

so I guess just this server is having a moment

[fair slate]

nooooo how?

[gray bolt]

my ship despawned at the bezdek facility

as soon as i bought laranite @fair slate

[fair slate]

wtf

[marble crater]

yeah there's a bug where your ship can randomly explode after disembarking. not safe to trade right now

[gleaming stirrup]

were you wearing a backpack

[deep vector]

Because it isn’t solo

[marble crater]

yeah but when I go out with a Mole crew even just 1 run is 260K each in a team of 3

[deep vector]

You didn’t had scouts

[marble crater]

I did 1 scout

[fair slate]

That is HORRIBLY incorrect. You will not pull 96 scu in a mole on average, to hear that from someone... lets me know how little they actually mine in a mole.

[marble crater]

I will pull around 90 if in a crew

[fair slate]

Yea, you're a liar bruh.

[marble crater]

just gotta be fussy with your quant patches

[fair slate]

Which means you spent all the time scouting and no time moving.

[viral heath]

think i got muted on main lol

[fair slate]

I've moved 2000scu of quant the last 2 weeks, and can tell you the majority of the time you wait for scouts or scout yourself whilst driving in a mole. Though I dont roam with any more than myself in the mole cause rock scouting is more important than lasers

I prefer to pick up the scout to break the rock, and have them jump out the window after we're done extracting while I go to another scout or drop off

[marble crater]

yes but I'm saying you can mine more than 100scu in an hour

[fair slate]

can move more than that, but when you have 5 scouts

thats possible

with 3 people in a mole (as you say you do)

[viral heath]

they got it down to a science

[fair slate]

and scouts

[viral heath]

lol

massive operation like the mob

lol

[fair slate]

you end up making less than 1 person doing 2 group ERT/VHRT missions

[marble crater]

I have one in the mole and 1 scout, scout jumps in when we find a good quant cluster

[viral heath]

its a different gameplay loop

so we dont get burnt out

i mean launching s9 torps over and over again

[marble crater]

also comparing a group mining to solo bounties is meh. should be compared to a wing doing bounties

[fair slate]

They're nerfing mining cause "it makes to much money"

We both know that isn't accurate.

[marble crater]

it can make alot but rng can also change that

[fair slate]

It doesn't make more when factoring in other people.

[marble crater]

take a group of 3 to share Goup ert's & you ain't making much there

mining is the highest paying group activity by far

[opal cargo]

on sell

[silk ridge]

Nice rock! Found a similar one yesterday. Hope I'm lucky again today. First I need too clear out yesterdays refining jobs tho

[elder hill]

hey im starting to get into mining. but which should i buy ?

[gaunt fiber]

@elder hill buy the mining attachment and the multi purpose tool (under personal weapons) they go together and when the tool is attached to the attachment you’ll be all setup to do some hand mining.

Hope this helps

[elder hill]

okay th

x

[tawny path]

Should I go with the Starfarer or the Gemini?

[tawdry compass]

theyre both same until ship's armors and self-refueling updates

so geimini is cheaper

[shy lantern]

Does anybody know why in some protect site missions some enemies don’t spawn? This has happened to me three times now and I have had to abandon each contract

[elder hill]

its a bug. u just need to start a new mission

[sacred loom]

Bugs bruh

[vestal ravine]

Agricium (AGRI) run details:

I recently used an empty Freelancer to establish a personal benchmark on filling up with AGRI and selling it at whatever value it had that day – April 19th. I have done this with Laranite and the Medical supplies. These three have the best profit margins but also cost more to buy.

Due to limited supplies at some of the 5 key stops that were available it took me 4 separate gaming sessions to fill up the 66scu. Gross purchase price: 23.97 per unit 156,111 Aeuc and sold for 181,500 Aeuc. Net profit 25,389 Aeuc.

Terrifying Challenges: One triple ship pirate attack fired one missile but I escaped via QT option. Upon going to the trade terminal I dropped the QT early via “U” key and the ship had a near faulty recovery I thought the screen/game would lock up. New player tip: Keep your QT/B key option open as long as possible during those last 22 KM. Don't tell people what you are doing in chat and establishing a party comms can show others where you are at. Is that accurate?? Thanks and have fun in Star Citizen!!

[earnest lion]

I have a Prospector, how can I mine Quantanium rocks? I have a Helix mining head but the progress bar barely goes up if even.

Am I able to send more power to the mining head?

[vestal ravine]

Some people use the Helix but most use the Lancet MH 1 there are two sizes. Then you need various passive and active modules. If the rock is above 5K in mass you may need two Prospectors or a high skill level.

[thin escarp]

@earnest lion I have a guide pinned in this channel

helix was meta like 3 major patches ago

use my guide for more updated loadouts etc

[earnest lion]

Ohh I see.

Thanks!

Wow the guide is very easy to follow along to.

[shy crane]

so if I'm in a Prospector and I'm cracking a 5000+ rock....is it a matter of time or are you never gonna crack it?

I've heard people say they spent a long time but it cracked....

[vestal ravine]

I tried so hard my wrist gave out lol

[balmy linden]

5122 is max

@shy crane 5122 is max and if you have a lancet it will break eventually

[shy crane]

Outstanding! thanks for the information 🙂

[balmy linden]

@shy craneit's not a rented prospector is it ?

[shy crane]

It is not

[twilit ice]

gotta find those weakspots

[gaunt fiber]

I'm going to be doing some mining in about an hour if anyone wants to join. Looking for either a crew to help with my Mole or a fellow prospector to help break some of the larger rocks.

[thin escarp]

@shy crane with my guide you can do more than 5122

I suggest the torrent and focus loadout.

very ez

[shy crane]

I'll check it out

[thin escarp]

its pinned here

[gritty mesa]

anyone need a scout?

[earnest lion]

I'm at the Refinery store in ARC-L1 but I can't find the Lancet or either of the modules, is there a terminal somewhere? Inside the store there's only a Rental terminal and Clothing terminal.

[thin escarp]

@earnest lion that clothing terminal

scroll right

it's a hidden lil tab unless u scroll

[gritty mesa]

Shubin interstellar on new babbage

[earnest lion]

Ohh I see.

Thanks.

[thin escarp]

yw

[crimson grotto]

is the constellation a good ship for cargo?

[lilac hedge]

@crimson grotto Which model?

[crimson grotto]

let me see what one i have

[lilac hedge]

The Taurus is the most well suited to it, but the other models are still capable jacks of all trades

[crimson grotto]

CONSTELLATION TAURUS

[crimson grotto]

oh

[lilac hedge]

Yeah, that's basically purpose built for cargo

[crimson grotto]

ok ty

[jovial veldt]

any tips for cargs runs for the c2

have around 100k auec

but kinda need some tips to earn abit more

[vestal ravine]

Hello. Please read my post on the AGRI options...There are 5 stops that sell it.

[earnest lion]

Which method do I want to use when refining Quantanium?

I'm using Ferron Exchange.

High Yield, Moderate cost and Low speed (better than Very Low).

[vestal ravine]

Dinyx Solvention. Low speed, low cost high yield..

[silk ridge]

At the Moment Ferron Exchange, good yield but a little more expensive. But it's fast and you can clear it out more often.

When the patch 3.17 is out and theres no longer a "danger" of a patch deleting your jobs, use Dinyx Solvention. Slow, but cheap with good yield.

[rancid barn]

This is what I use. You're literally worrying about saving a few thousand credits to refine 200-300k worth of Q. Both are good options, I just don't have the patience for Dinyx.

[silk ridge]

*f you're always mining, it's just the first load that takes time, because you constantly refill.

If mining is just a side thing for credits, Ferron is definitely the go to.

[thin escarp]

@earnest lion I only use ferron

[fair slate]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/4/thread/regarding-mining-rock-radar-detection-change-to-12

Do not forget to leave a comment on why you do or dont support this change.

CiG needs to acknowledge this change is way to much, unfortunately the only reply from CiG was "We recommend posting on the Spectrum Feedback forum to discuss it"

[lapis kiln]

Where’s the best place to mine quant atm?

[silk ridge]

Still Lyria or the Halo, depending on your preferences.

[fair slate]

Lyria.

Scouting window for people is opening up if y'all wanna make 50% on mineables

[shell wren]

They should reduce the spawn rate of quant not reduce the scanner

That way players will be forced to mine other stuff

[fair slate]

They're increasing the spawn rate of trash mineables alongside increasing rover mineables by about 5x

[shell wren]

Trash as in inert or low value ore?

[fair slate]

low value

ie dilute spawns

[shell wren]

Low value is better than no value

[fair slate]

Not really.

[shell wren]

I rather mine aluminum than inert

[fair slate]

Low value ore when refined costs the same as quantanium

The refinery doesn't give a fuck what you refine, it charges you the same.

It's not viable.

A lot of the minables end up paying gas money.

[shell wren]

What about if you sell it without refining

[fair slate]

Insta money.

[shell wren]

So just sell the low value ore and refine only high value

[hollow sedge]

those scanning changes sound stupid

i would just give up my prospector at that point

[simple river]

Run away from low value ore

[shell wren]

The problem with mining right now is that players ate only mining qauntanium and nothing else

They need to learn how to mine other stuff.

[hollow sedge]

the profit is worth it

[shell wren]

In a real world situation thats what you would if you owed a mining co

[hollow sedge]

no incentive to mine anything else

[simple river]

Not really, ur almost paying to mine trash, might as well spend 2min looking for quant and make 200k instead of paying 1k

[hollow sedge]

maybe quanta will eventually go to mined goods so theres a live market

[shell wren]

I spend an hour looking for quant and it that hour I couldve mined a bunch low value or sold it and came back already

[simple river]

Lol

I got a scout that finds 1mill plus quant in minutes

[hollow sedge]

i havent played in a while but i usually have good luck in aarons halo