industrial-professions

[silk ridge]

Multiple reasons:

• I love the look
• I love the way you enter the ship
• It's perfect for box deliveries
• It's tanky to not get shredded by bunker turrets when you do a flying-oopsie
• It's an exploratory ship, which comes in handy later, since I'm an Explorer at heart.
• It's a great personell transport, since it's really hard to see and target if you turn off the shields
• It's just amazing. haha

[indigo wolf]

Good to know I love exploring to might have to look into one

[mossy fern]

I thought the ROC-DS was supposed to carry more than the ROC? is that not ingame yet? mine carries the same amount of cargo.

[silk ridge]

I never used the ROC, but wasn't the capacity the main selling point of the DS?

[mossy fern]

i bought it for the two person aspect so not the biggest deal but it was something I was looking forward to after renting the normal ROC

[grizzled bone]

I think the DS is more about the whole 2 seat deal but

According to the storepage it has 4x the cargo

ROC has 1 SCU, DS has 4

Though the wiki lists it as 3.5

[fierce karma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L0QAQGHhEA

Do I get bragging rights?

[haughty heart]

What’s the best loadout for quant mining with a prospector? I’m fairly experienced and can handle surge modules and whatnot.

[silk ridge]

This depends on your preferences.
The Lancet mining head is meta atm.

The consumables or passive attachments are personal preference. Some use a surge and Brands, others take stampetes.

If you mine on Lyria, Surges will be more useful due to the size of the rocks.

I personally mine mostly in the Halo and use 2x Vaux-C3 and one Rieger-C3, But I might try to replace one Vaux with a Stampede.

[haughty heart]

Thanks. About how much do u make (on average) per hour/ how many good rocks do u find in the halo?

[silk ridge]

Money per hour can vary between 0 and several million 🤣

Usually I come home with ~500K per hour mining. I do it super casually tho.

The number of rocks depends on the server and your preferences.

If you fly into the Halo center (band 5/6) youll have many rocks but also many dead ones.

In the outer halo (band 1 or 10) you have less rocks overall, but also less dead rocks.

[lean oyster]

Honestly for halo mining 0 modules are needed. Just a lancet head. And I throw on a fast QT drive just in case I'm close to going boom, might save my life 1 day

[haughty heart]

Could a rental be used?

[haughty heart]

How do I know what band i’m in?

Also i’ve never really had a problem with dead rocks, whenever I see one I get close and wait like 10 seconds and it works 99% of the time

On Lyria^

Is it different in the halo?

[lean oyster]

If we are counting strictly refinery to refinery time, I'm prob 25-30scu per 30-40 mins or something in long run (I'm still kinda new tho).

Then a sorta difficult to measure amount of time hauling to the cities (I do about 3 loads per run in a constellation)

[lean oyster]

Not for quant, because u can't change the head

[haughty heart]

Yeah, excluding timebhaulting to cities

[lean oyster]

There are guides to show you. Lemme see if one is pinned here

https://cornerstonebase.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

^^^ thats a good site

i didnt see any obvious ones pinned

[haughty heart]

ty

[silk ridge]

I was just about to post the same link

[haughty heart]

What letter type of asteroid has quantanium?

[autumn cedar]

what do you mean by letter type

[haughty heart]

Like, some asteroids say P-type or H-type

or E-type

[autumn cedar]

I have to admit, you got me there - where do you see that info? in the hud?

[haughty heart]

Figured it out, it’s Q-type. Never mind.

[autumn cedar]

i'm still curious tho, where do you see this info?

[haughty heart]

when u scan

[haughty heart]

each type of asteroids will have different info, on the right it says what type of asteroid it is

[autumn cedar]

oh, never actually noticed that, I usually just wait until the overcharge/optimal bands show, that way I immediately know if it's got Q in there or not

[pliant stump]

am i able to sell refined materials at olisar?

I keep reading stuff that seems conflicting and I've been about 5 places

[autumn cedar]

no, only at major hubs - orison, A18, etc.

[pliant stump]

okay.

[pliant stump]

finally made it back to orison

[muted cairn]

Hello guys quick question how much cargo space does the freelancer max has?

Without the C2

But like can hold alot of cargo

[autumn cedar]

z_s freelancer max

[stark torrent]

Musashi Industrial and Starflight Concern (MISC)

Freelancer MAX

The MISC Freelancer MAX is a heavy transport variant of the Freelancer ship. It sacrifices weaponry for an increased cargo capacity and has a extra pair of main thrusters to help it move larger payloads. This makes it ideal for moving heavy equipment, vehicles or raw materials.

Role

Heavy Freight

Crew

1 – 4

Cargo

120.00 SCU

Length

38.00m

Height

9.50m

Beam

36.00m

Mass

360,208 Kg

Combat Speed

154 m/s

Max Speed

1005 m/s

In-Game Price

2,181,500 aUEC

Pledge Price

US$150.00

Status

Flight Ready

Links

Galactapedia · Pledge store · Presentation · Brochure · Trailer · SC Unpacked · #DPSCalculator · Hardpoint.io · StarShip 42 · FleetYards

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[twilit ice]

she thick

[muted cairn]

Thanks man Question does the freelancer max hold more then the CONSTELLATION ANDROMEDA? That one you can rent for 70k at area 18

Z_s CONSTELLATION ANDROMEDA

[stark torrent]

Roberts Space Industries (RSI)

Constellation Andromeda

The Constellation Andromeda is a multi-person freighter manufactured by Roberts Space Industries (RSI). It is the base model of the Constellation series. It comes with a P-52 Merlin docked at the stern as a snub fighter.

Role

Medium Freight

Crew

3 – 4

Cargo

96.00 SCU

Length

61.00m

Height

14.00m

Beam

26.00m

Mass

430,057 Kg

Combat Speed

144 m/s

Max Speed

911 m/s

In-Game Price

3,548,000 aUEC

Pledge Price

US$240.00

Status

Flight Ready

Links

Galactapedia · Pledge store · Presentation · Brochure · Trailer · SC Unpacked · #DPSCalculator · Hardpoint.io · StarShip 42 · FleetYards

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[autumn cedar]

as you just found out by yourself, it holds more 🙂

[vestal ravine]

I was on a mining mission but flew into a mountain top. My corpse is at Stanton. It cannot be recovered, right?

[hollow sedge]

no it just appears there

[hollow sedge]

when you fly back to ur body, the marker should update

ur body will might just clip through the floor and fall into the planet tho

[north oyster]

They are improving body recovery in 3.17

I think the MAX offers one of the best values of SCU to aUEC in the game. 120 SCU for 2.2M aUEC

[hollow sedge]

ur not wrong. but just save up a lil more and u can get a taurus for 3.3

which is much better at bounties

[torpid hedge]

star citizen never ceases to amaze me with its absurd bugs

[lean oyster]

Ok random question. I've recently switched from prospector mining to mole mining and want to take advantage of having 3 different setups and experiment with some new stuff.

Can you mine quant with helix2 if you put Brant modules on your laser?

[lean oyster]

OMG your mole is moulting!

[torpid hedge]

both of our ships exploded a couple of seconds after the clip the collision set our quantanium loads off I'm not even that mad it was kind of a sight to behold

[lean oyster]

it kinda looks like both u guys maybe warped from same location to the same location, and he didnt move when he landed, so u ended up on top of each other

[obtuse sand]

Z_s CONSTELLATION PHOENIX

[stark torrent]

Roberts Space Industries (RSI)

Constellation Phoenix

The Constellation Phoenix is a multi-crew luxury spacecraft manufactured by Roberts Space Industries (RSI). As the luxury variant of the Constellation series, it is primarily used to facilitate elite tourism and VIP transport. Its amenities include two single bedrooms, a master bedroom, a full bar, a dining area, and a hot tub. It also features a sensor-dampened cargo area. The Phoenix comes stock with a Lynx Rover and a P-72 Archimedes.

Role

Expedition, luxury

Crew

3 – 4

Cargo

80.00 SCU

Length

61.00m

Height

14.00m

Beam

26.00m

Mass

427,001 Kg

Combat Speed

144 m/s

Max Speed

911 m/s

In-Game Price

5,658,800 aUEC

Pledge Price

US$350.00

Status

Flight Ready

Links

Galactapedia · Pledge store · Presentation · Brochure · Trailer · SC Unpacked · #DPSCalculator · Hardpoint.io · StarShip 42 · FleetYards

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[obtuse sand]

ooo cool bot

[brave maple]

Which Hull you think pairs best with a significant mining operation? Hull C?

[broken hearth]

Whats a good starter ship for Cargo hauling under 1m

??

[rancid barn]

under 1 million? I've always been told less than a cutty is a waste of time and it's 1.3 million or so.

And for that price, you can get more storage out of the Freelancer for another 300k.

[hollow sedge]

pretty sure you jumped into someone

[hollow sedge]

lol

[north oyster]

There isn’t one. At 2.1M you have the Freelancer MAX

[hollow sedge]

whats the best ship for 1auec

[magic flume]

Even the max isnt great for cargo hauling, significant money can only really be made with the caterpillar and above frankly

Max is good for selling your mining cargo tho

[north oyster]

Cargo is not worth it unless you are on the top end. You can learn with a smaller ship like a freelancer or cutlass black or freelancer max but you won’t make anything until you get to the Hercules Starlifter or the caterpillar

[magic flume]

Also i think the c2 is still cheaper than the cat so the c2 is the better choice

Cat is sexy tho

[north oyster]

Yes, C2 is significantly better currently than the CAT

[north oyster]

The HULL C is over 4,500 SCU of cargo. It’s too large for a mining operation except maybe off loading four Orion miners

[broken hearth]

Whats the best ship For mining then

[north oyster]

Solo is The prospector

Group is the MOLE

[broken hearth]

Okay thx

[north oyster]

The prospector is what I would call the goose that lays the golden egg because it earns so well that you can pretty much end up getting any ship in the game that you want using the prospector

[magic flume]

Isnt the current scu of the orion from before it doubled in size

[brave maple]

The Orion also has its own storage for mining which judging by size is enormous and potentially close to hull E in size

The ship is the size of an idris essentially

[north oyster]

There’s no information on what the mined material capacity in the storage pods will be. Or rather I couldn’t locate it at this time

[marble crater]

Nice can't wait for the solo Orion guide

[north oyster]

Where the Orion will be located very few other people will be. So like going into the astroid belt with a prospector, you don’t have to worry about pirates

[hollow sedge]

Where do you usually find quantum?

HURL3 oder rather CRUL1

[thin escarp]

i have a mining guide thats pinned thats totally helpful

[magic flume]

I go into aarons halo from cru l1

The density of rocks tends to make up for how quantianium is a smaller quantity and if all the rocks in an area are not good enough you can just qt a couple hundred kms and find a new batch of rocks

Sorry for the ping

[twilit ice]

My org just donated to me the rest of the money I needed for a prospector 😱

[mossy fern]

I am not mistaken and 80cSCU is .8 SCU correct?

[pallid temple]

100cSCU is 1 SCU

So yes

[cedar flower]

does that operation have a Orion?
Hull D

is that operation just smaller ships?
Hull B is enough, unless you stay in the belt for days and refine every bit and only come back fully loaded, then a C may be usefull

[hollow sedge]

I just got my prospector, how should I upgrade it?

Gonna be mining quant

[potent tinsel]

lancet mining laser

modules are optional. some are passive, some active and need to be rebought after X many uses. lose all modules everytime you need to reclaim ship for w/e reason.

tho you didnt mention whether halo or planetary mining....

[hollow sedge]

Planetary probably

[potent tinsel]

then you'll be encountering rocks too big to crack without modules and i'll have to defer to others; i only mine halo.

[hollow sedge]

What would you suggest for halo mining?

[gleaming stirrup]

its a shame you cant transfer cargo to friends ships currently while mining

would be amazing

[potent tinsel]

i dont use modules for halo; i learned to mine without them (accidentally) so i'm fine cracking rocks that way. it goes a little quicker with a Surge module, and you can add modules to increase stability, etc, but they all come with a trade-off. If you boost one stat, you're losing something else. Certain modules are only at certain refinery stations too, so that may affect your choices.

[weary quarry]

I use surge and stampede with lancet head

[hollow sedge]

Odd question I thought you could get a Lancet at Arc L1 but its not in the kiosk...no mining equipment is in the kiosk...Is it because I just bought the Prospector upgrade and it hasnt registered? Am I the big dumb?

[potent tinsel]

the size 1 is avail at arc-l1. go back to the terminal that says "Clothes" on it and use your mouse wheel to scroll the menu. There are tabs along the top.

[heady pecan]

looking for someone with a prospector to help me mine some quant i only need 4 more runs

[deep vector]

[lean oyster]

If you're looking to group mine, why prospector and not mole?

[rose cove]

I assume he's poor.

[pallid temple]

You don't need a MOLE to do it either

[sacred loom]

twin prospector On lyria is totally fine. Crack some big rocks

[gaunt fiber]

Two prospectors also serve another advantage to a single mole. You can have two ships scouting for rocks at the same time, then when one ship finds a big rock, just call over your buddy to help break the rock, and they can even help scoop the material.

[sacred loom]

mole mining should really have a scout ship ahead of it

Also u can use 2 lasers in mole obv then both can break/scoop

[thin escarp]

@hollow sedge I have a guide pinned in this channel

yeah I only use scouts with a mole

much more efficient.

[pliant stump]

I need to put better lasers on my mole >.<

and maybe QT drive?

[thin escarp]

@pliant stump I got loadouts in my guide

it's pinned in this channel

[night mason]

anyone able to help me mine a big rick

rock

theres enough for 2 people here

[pliant stump]

@thin escarp tyty

[red cape]

do you guys think that the misc expanse will be able to create quantum fuel like the odyssey does?

[thin escarp]

no I think its strictly refining.

[red cape]

I thought that was the same thing, like you refine quantanium and then you have fuel

[ancient fractal]

hey does anyone know if scrap can be sold now or not?

[red cape]

im not getting a warning on sc-trade.tools anymore so i would say it probably can be sold

[topaz burrow]

Quick question. If I'm hand mining and emptying the backpack to ship's inventory. Can I then sell that directly from a ship at the trading terminal or do I need to make back and forth trips with backpack?

[brave maple]

Is Hull E not for mining but rather some extreme transport of something? Also does Orion need a hull if it has such massive mining storage if it’s own. Of course if it’s in a good spot it’s perhaps safer to use transport then the Orion - maybe Orion can’t dock itself due to size

[cedar flower]

Orion can only store 16k SCU of Ore, but needs help when it refines that ore
so you need a Freighter that can carry enough to take what the Orion refines as it has a on-board refinery
so a Hull D is perfect for it as it has 21000 SCU capacity

the E is really just for massive freight missions between multiple star systems, like for example Arccorp build Several thousand ship components and they need to be transported to Crusader in one go
so a Hull E is chosen

[brave maple]

I didn’t see that they posted the ore capacity of Orion just hauling. Supposedly it’s mining capacity should be extreme as it’s bigger than an idris

[lean oyster]

I do this with my mole and a buddy in his starter titan. When a rock is found he just jumps in the mole

[lean oyster]

So the connie has always been my hauler, but ever since i got my mole i keep having awkward loads and realize i need a much bigger hauler to maximize efficiency. IMO its a decision between the catepillar and the C2 herc (unless somebody else has input). Ill be buying with in game aUEC (Mole is pledge ship now). Which one do u think is better and why? Obv herc has most scu, but tbh i cant imagine ill ever be comfortable hauling 500-700 SCU worth of quant in 1 trip so thats not the end all be all for me.

[marble crater]

C2 flies much nicer than the Cat and holds more cargo. Things might be different for the Cat when cargo refactor is in and you can make use of the on board tractor beam. Also there's the whole custom module fit out for the Cat too but that's a long ways off i'd assume

[lean oyster]

yea figure by the time that comes into play i could afford both haha. Maybe its just C2 for now for the extra space and its prob a better Jumptown ship if they bring it back. Catepillar just seems to have a much more interesting interior haha

[brave maple]

Some of the hauling ship capacities i am sure will get tweaked to align with cost. Remembering that the alpha economy is likely greatly accelerated for testing. I don’t think the final intent is to earn quite as easily. Perhaps that’s numbers moving or perhaps that means making mining and transport more dangerous

They are going to want the backers to feel it was money well spent in terms of ship acquisition difficulty

[thin escarp]

@lean oyster c2 is lit

[lyric nest]

is scrap trading still broken in 3.16?

[tribal imp]

it works. but you can only sell to Mic L1, Arc L1, Hur L5 and Cru L5.

it is a good filler route when moving to another planet

business is good.

[thin escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[tawny path]

anyone mole mining or want to join the mole with me?

[lean oyster]

this looks so awesome. Too bad Quant doesnt show up yet so i never see it 😦

[lofty trout]

@north oyster I think I may have found the absolute best sweet spot in the halo from CRU L1 to ARC L3. I am not even eggagerating when I say I have done about 10 runs today, every run has literally been less then 5 minutes because when I warp in, within the first 5 or so astroids I find one is quant, and I am not joking when I say every time I see a quant astroid it has been 25% or higher, everytime. ive tried going from CRU L1 to ARC L3 and stopping in the 12 mils left, 11 mils left, but the ABSOLUTE sweet spot im talking about is between 10.8 to 10.6 million left until you get to ARC L3. And of the other mining homies in this channel give it a shot and tell me if it works for you too, I'm gonna keep going tonight so if it starts to drop off ill update in here maybe I just had a crazy good streak but the fact ive had 10 runs now all with the same results is saying something I think 😹

This was my last run I just did before I go take a break and make some food, took 7 Minutes... SEVEN MINUTES!!

absolutely insane

[tawny path]

do you get anything mole worthy in that area?

[lofty trout]

On multiple occasions, I’ve had probably half of those runs today be in asteroid groups and in those groups there were some with 2 or 5% but like multiple with 20%, the best one I saw today was a group of 7 with 4 of them in the 30s - 40s highest being 48% I died a little inside having to warp away while there was dozens of rocks with 100% left in them I didn’t have room for

[tawny path]

my server is dead, Im going to try another and see if i can get any luck, i just hate soloing the mole on lyria

[lofty trout]

If you give that area a shot please tag me if your results are good! Or even if they aren’t do so I would love an update from another player. I would keep collecting data runs but I’m going to take a break so I’ll be back on later.

When I do get back on I’ll start posting each run I do in here, or try to remember to, but yeah from CRU L1 to ARC L3 stop at 10,800,000-10,600,000 range

Tell me how it goes

[lofty trout]

@tawny path point continued LOL, just got back on, 3rd ping that I scanned

I usually go 30+ but meh, mining both those will be definitely close enough

this spot is god tier

[lean oyster]

Jeez u find something like that u can prob msg in here and get some kind of finders fee

[lofty trout]

I finished that run I was just on and went back out and am already mining another astroid with 31% quant. this area is absolutely crazy

like I said between 10,600,000-10,800,000 I would definitely say aim more towards the 800k side of it, although both are great im finding patches in more like 3 minutes everytime in near 800,000.

I'm playing on USA Best servers, Idk if that changes anything but figured I would add it in, I hope my fellow miners give this a go and ping me with their results for sure

wanna see the average from everyone

[lean oyster]

What band is that? I don't have the chart up. I run that route a ton but think I stop in the 12mil area (sounds familiar)

I don't imagine server matters. Asteroids are procedural generated, but it's definitely possible there are variables programmed in based on density in certain bands

[lofty trout]

tbh I don't know about these "bands" everyone talks about, I just know of the halo as a whole, my testing over the last four or so days has come from just jumping out of quant travel at different times and mining around, and this is by FAR the best. I've gotten 3 fully loaded prospector runs in the last 40 minutes LOL

roughly 40 minutes

@lean oyster IDK how much it helps but maybe visually this could help, or if there is someone lurking or sees this later this could help locate it

Maps ^^

Spool Distances ^^

Like I said prior, roughly 1.6 mil to 1.8 but more in the 10.8 mil are is where im having even better results then what was already amazing at 10.6

[lean oyster]

Ya cool I'll try it tomorrow. That's the same route I already run. Just usually at the 12m to l3 range

[lofty trout]

yeah thats around what I was doing too, maybe more like 400k-500k an hour but with this method easily 1 mil to even 1.5 mil an hour so far

might be even higher then that but ill do the math when I sell tomorrow and base it off of how much time I took tonight

ping me when you do it and let me know how it goes im curious!!

Darn it! I stopped paying attention for half a second and scooped up a rock full of inert instead of the rock next to it with 93% quant, messed up my run but definitely still pretty decent considering it took about 12 minutes

[twilit ice]

Hopefully gonna do my first prospector run tonight

[lofty trout]

good luck! if you want a mining partner or any help or tips or anything you can feel free to add me :]

more connections I got on this game the better 😸

[twilit ice]

I appreciate it! I’ll shoot a message when I’m in game assuming it’s not too late lol

I’m sure I’ll have plenty of questions tho

[lofty trout]

feel free, I can show you

[lofty trout]

sorry almost crashed lol, I can show you the run I do and some stuff to buy and where to set up, ill probably be up for another hour id give it

so I could get a few runs in with you and help you start depending on how much you need

[languid zealot]

is roc + nomad mining worth the investment and effort?

[deep vector]

50/50

If you have grinding skills - just go for prospector

If you want diversity - this is great option

[languid zealot]

yeah thats what im looking for

[deep vector]

Cool ship to fly, agile and nice inside

Had 3 of em, ccued

Bought back ingame

Love it

[brazen thistle]

Mining Champs... could you please explain what each of this stats do while mining and if negative or positive number is better ? id like to understand those things, not only blindly follow guides, Thanks in advance!

my assumptions are as follows:
Output - power of laser, higher the number is, faster i will charge rock.
Full dmg range - up to this number lase will be most effective
Zero dmg range - after this, i am out of range and wont chare rock
Catastrophic charge rate - when i got to the red zone, how fast it will fill up.
Laser instability - how much charge of rock /laser oscillate ?
Optimal chare size - how fast will fill up green zone.
Optimal charge size - how wide is green area
Resistance - ??
Shatter dmg ???
Throttle lerp speed - ????

Please add/confirm/correct me ?

[north oyster]

Thanks for the info. That seems to be right in the middle of Band 6. I will be sure to test it and let you know. It might be a few days because I only have limited time I get to play.
10.8 to 10.6 -> ARC-L3 Will do

[silk ridge]

"Throttle lerp speed" seems to be the speed the mining head reacts to the change of the laser intensity. Lime when you use your mouse wheel, how fast/direct will the laser adjust.

[brazen thistle]

hmm... yes, that sound like could be right.

[north oyster]

That is correct, they created that to hamstring the Helix laser head and debuffed the performance by adding a 40% delay in controls

[jagged veldt]

Can't decide what modules to use with the prospector, any suggestions?

[north oyster]

Where are you planning to mine?

[jagged veldt]

Lyria

[north oyster]

Surge, Stampeded and then the 3rd is a personal choice. Check the pinned post at the top that Cross put up

it has a couple of different suggestions

[jagged veldt]

ok thanks

[brazen thistle]

ok ok . and do you know about other mentioned things ?

[north oyster]

Shatter Damage is the monster at the end of the string. An example is when you use stampede the shatter damage goes up 200%

Resistance is the aspect that causes the overall (in simple terms) the power needed to bring the rock into the green zone. You will notice that sometimes there is a small red zone at the top with a long ways to climb to get to the green zone and other times there is a huge red zone with only a short distance to get to the green zone. That is the resistance of the rock

Purity of the ore on the deposit often dictates this aspect

[brazen thistle]

ahh, ok so it this is basically where zones will be placed, with higher resistance i need to charge rock for longer to get to zones.

[brazen thistle]

But i dont understand what you mean by this one.... so is like.. if i overcharge and rock explode, how deadly that explosion will be ? or even if i not overcharge, just crack it in green, it will add to damage it can cause if i am too close ?

[north oyster]

Yes, there is a consumable called "LifeLine" that decreases shatter damage. If someone is learning how to use Surge, it is a good consumable to use along with that so you won't instantly blow up your ship. Surge increases the overcharge speed by a 100% also

[topaz burrow]

@rotund spindle just wanted to say cheers for the explanation on how to start with mining. Had lots of fun hand mining so I decided to rent a prospector for the weekend and see how it goes

[north oyster]

The Rental will be limited though not worthless

Your goal will need to be volume. Do you know the ores to try to get?

[topaz burrow]

Can't afford not rental rn. It's a start right?

[north oyster]

You can also try with the ROC if you have a ship that carries it

[topaz burrow]

I've watched videos and for rough ideas. This is just to try it and see if I like it

[north oyster]

this might be helpful in SMB's "zero to hero" series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYTjNnzHqO8

[topaz burrow]

Aye this is what I watched :D

[north oyster]

OK, good, as long as you have a good idea of what it can and can't do

[topaz burrow]

Yeah the rock mass can't be over 5k AFAIK?

[north oyster]

Also, the Halo will be the best place to mine

[north oyster]

The type of ore really determines if you can crack it or not, even more than the size

With the default laser head

[topaz burrow]

Yeah I will aim for bendra

[north oyster]

Bexilite is good, Borase is a pain (breaks bad)

Laranite and above all good but you can also work with the lower value ores.

You will need a cargo ship also

[topaz burrow]

Thanks for this

Yeah will rent black cutlass to shift it from rafinery

[north oyster]

you can stack unlimited refinery jobs. The cutty will take one load at a time, but that isn't an issue at all. Keep in mind if you hear that the new patch 3.17 is "about to go live!" (which will be a long ways away) that the new patch will wipe all refinery jobs.

Run your rental Prospector until it runs out. Sell raw if you need to for funds (only get half value) but use the Dinyx process for the jobs (cheapest but takes longest)

you should be able to "make table" i.e. earn back what you invested in the rental plus some. The skill set that you gain from the work is what is most valuable. Also, you can earn and learn from other mining groups if interested.

[autumn cedar]

@north oyster Q for you: since I've never used the stampede module - do I activate it when I've already engaged the rock with the mining laser or before?

[topaz burrow]

@north oyster thanks. Thats the idea. Rent the ship, see if I like and definately make a lot more money then to cover the rental lol

[silk ridge]

I'd start it as soon as you're in the green without falling back out of it.

[autumn cedar]

oh, so you're supposed to activate it when reaching the optimal zone?

[silk ridge]

correct. Very useful for unstable rocks, since the optimal zone fills super fast with a Stampede

[mossy fern]

a rented prospector can't mine quantanium because the laser is too weak if I understand correctly, but could 2 rented prostpectors mine it together?

[north oyster]

The issue is the stability needed, you can't get that with the Abhor laser head

You can try, just one Prospector with a laser on the rock running, the other should be able to do the work

In the next build you will be able to use modules that can compensate for the issue with the rental laser head

[silk ridge]

I Wonder if you can midigate the additional instability of stronger lasers by using passive modules.

[sick bloom]

Is there any benefit to the MOLE, over the prospector, for quant mining besides that it’s multi crewed?

[north oyster]

Volume

it holds 3x more than the Prospector

[sick bloom]

Which I guess is useful if you can find some high mass quant rocks with high quant percents

[north oyster]

Eventually it will also be able to clear out inert trash, etc

[sick bloom]

But since you have the 15 min timer for quant tho, how often are you mining more quant than the prospector can hold?

[north oyster]

You crack everything first, then you vacuum everything up

[sick bloom]

I only ask cause I barely find quant deposits that contain more quant than my prospector can hold

[north oyster]

In Lyria there are 49% 8K rocks

[sick bloom]

I see

I only mine in the halo

[north oyster]

I do too, that's my happy place

[sick bloom]

But the mole would be better for lyria it seems?

[north oyster]

That's where it shines

[sick bloom]

Thank you

[pliant stump]

I found a 47% 6.6k mass last night but we didnt break it

[brazen thistle]

i am not using any consumables, but thanks for info! all info.

[coarse cape]

Really only in a c2 or cat

I make like 20k per run give or take in my Taurus

[tribal imp]

my last run with the C2 is 113k profit. Buying from 3 outposts.

[haughty heart]

Worth the time?

[lofty trout]

righto sir!

[twilit ice]

Okay, so… could I get some help reading this chart? Am I getting this right, the chart shows going from the 4 starting destinations towards CRU-L1 and the various QT drop out points?

As well, which of these bands is worthwhile or are they all the same?

[tribal imp]

yes of course.

[lofty trout]

oh yo whats up scotty, yeah those show from CRU L1 the locations to head to and where to stop along the quant travel paths to get to certain places, I was gonna help you last night I could help you out today if you want it

but basically those numbers just read where you would stop along your path from CRU L1 to any of those locations

most profitable and quickest to get to is ARC L3, closest to CRU L1

if you read any of my messages in here last night you will find that at least from my research I think I found an amazing sweet spot for where to stop along the path, crazy amount of quant there

between 10,800,000 and 10.600.000

drop out of QT Travel and look there

#industrial-professions message

that bring you to my original message that explains this all better, or you can scroll up in chat and follow along what I said

you can really mine where ever you want but personal reccomendation is there, having the quickest runs and making the most money, 1 to 1.5 million aEUC an hour'

[twilit ice]

Coolio, I’ll look there when I get off work tonight

Just was doing some browsing lol

I appreciate the help

[lean oyster]

Just got my MOLE about a week ago and so far:

Its also useful not having to map out the order of sucking up rocks to ensure u get max quant before being full. The small bit of time u lose having to move from seat to laser, and repositioning is made up for saving time here, as well as never leaving any quant behind.

If ur super lucky u can find 2 30%+ rocks next to each other and get like 60-70 SCU quant loads.

Oh also when u find the huge moon quant rocks, u can suck them all up and not leave any behind

[tawny path]

anyone mininh?

[ancient fractal]

i make way more abuseing scrap

[shy crane]

and how does one abuse scrap?

[cedar flower]

Scrap has one of the highest profit margins, so it's great when you can bulk haul that stuff

[shy crane]

hmmm.....in a field of quant rocks....was thinking about sucking up all the non-quant rocks and then jettisoning the cargo....then picking up the quant....sound strategy or stupid?

[cedar flower]

Don't you lose your cargo backs when you jettison cargo?

[shy crane]

dunno

[silk ridge]

I just flew 31.99SCU of freshly mined Quantanium into the moving part of ARC-L1 ... ... ... Totally didn't rage quit...

https://tenor.com/view/embarrassed-sad-cry-smile-im-fine-gif-14251203

[lofty trout]

I feel that dude one of the only times I’ve lost my load is to that 💀🤣

[silk ridge]

🤣

[sharp glen]

Hey Anyone willin to help me get a Prosp ive got a rental prosp but i dont know what ores are best and what planet its best for good ores

[silk ridge]

A bit old but still a valid reference with the materials and where to find it

Best would be Bexalite, Taranite and Laranite (Borase kinda sucks)

[terse sable]

I just upgraded my pledge to the prospector, how long until i can use it?

[lean oyster]

@lofty trout no dice on your secret spot man 😢

Been out here quite a while with no luck. Prob go back to band 5-6 soon

[lofty trout]

You Quantum jumped from Cru L1 to ARC L3 and specifically stopped between 10.8 mil to 10.6 mil left to go to ARC L3? If so that’s weird because even today I’m still getting god runs, admittedly they are taking a little bit longer to find maybe like 5 minutes instead of 3 but

Maybe you just had a really rough run, how long did you try at it?

[lean oyster]

I'm still out here now

[lean oyster]

I'm at 7,791,000 atm

lol @lofty trout. I know variance and everything but i gave up on ur spot and quantumed to my spot in band 5-6 and literally came out of quantum on top of this:
Cluster of 8 quantum rocks with 37% in the center

too funny

[primal badge]

guys where is the best place to mine

I only have that rover place

[lean oyster]

loaded question. Hand mining, Roc mining, astroid mining, moon rock mining?

[primal badge]

ROC mining

Don't have ships to mine

[north oyster]

If you want to discover the path to mining and winning, it is all encapsulated in this fan made music video (one of my favorites ... sort of an autobiography) but now I can see this as @thin escarp Biography also, LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qw3uftxgBw

[viral heath]

Which ship for roc mine? Maxlancer or maxlancer

[north oyster]

MAX is pretty awesome for ROC mining escort

[viral heath]

Using cutty to roc mine is hard

You gotta fight the ship, scan and shit

[marble crater]

Yeah cutty needs a wheel alignment 😂

[viral heath]

How does the nomad compare?

Just that nomad also have wonky roc loading shenanigans

[north oyster]

Nomad isn't bad, not great. You do have to back it back into the truck bed

[viral heath]

If it handles slightly as bad as the cutty in atmos

Think in case of wipe I'll grind for maxlancer with 100i

Since we can also use the lancer to transport other ores

[north oyster]

The MAX does a great job because of the wide ramp for the ROC to RORO (roll-on, roll-off). The MAX also has excellent hydrogen scoops that you really never have to worry about fuel. Plus when you get the Prospector, the MAX makes a fantastic freighter to take refined Quantainium to market

it's small enough to get into any spot on most all planets when you are deploying the ROC also

[sacred loom]

Prospector just self imploded on PAD 01. Goodbye 32 SCU 100% quant

[unborn trout]

Can I make money with a cutlass black and one of them mining rovers

[sacred loom]

ROC?

[unborn trout]

Ya

[sacred loom]

u can make like 200k to fill it up

its frustrating though cos the gems are hard to find. 1.2km scan range

[viral heath]

Like we said

[sacred loom]

Also in cutty, check your ramp is all the way to the ground when getting your ROC out

[viral heath]

Cutty roc mining is 3 games in one

[sacred loom]

otherwise. u cant get back in.

[unborn trout]

Lol

[viral heath]

You have to fight the cutty from crashing, scan and reversing the roc in

[sacred loom]

I done alot of it in Cutty black

[viral heath]

You don't have much room for error when you are cruising at 500m

[sacred loom]

not to bad. just gotta be aware

[unborn trout]

But upgrading to the cutty from Nomad was a good thing right I didn't fuck up did i

[sacred loom]

Aberdeen is where u want to go, u will need a suit and mask for the surface

[viral heath]

Not really

But if you had nomad.. I would upgrade to the max lancer instead

Cos cutty is similar to the nomad

Yah won't suggest Aberdeen if you are starting out roc mining

Goto daymar and get some experience there fiest

[sacred loom]

That is fair i guess I did my first runs in Aberdeen though

[viral heath]

And you don't/have to invest 15k in the Michelin man suit

[sacred loom]

Its all good.

[viral heath]

Cos if you crash and you will

[unborn trout]

Is there like a guide or data sheet out there to help with mining

[viral heath]

You are out 15k

[sacred loom]

15k is minimal

[viral heath]

Not when you just spent all your money on a cutty and rox

[sacred loom]

But u seem to have taken this convo over so I'll leave ya to it!

[unborn trout]

Lol well I got the ship as a cash upgrade and still need a roc how much is it

[viral heath]

If you starting out from a basic starter package

175k lorville

[unborn trout]

I know I got a bit because I'm broke as hell

Damn ok so I got my ship hand mining tool and hopes what's best way to make credits

[viral heath]

Watch some yt videos on roc mining

Remember if it ain't pink, it's in the stink

[unborn trout]

Lmao ok thank you

[viral heath]

Oh hand mining?

Take cave missions form the investigate tab in contract management

Bring at least 2 or more backpacks

[unborn trout]

Ok cool

[viral heath]

And fill those up

The mining mechanics are the same for all mining methods. Charge the rock with your mining laser, keep in the green zone , wait for rock to shatter and then collect

[lean oyster]

does blowing up smaller fragments destroy fragments around them?

[tawny path]

can you put modules on a rented prospector?

[pastel field]

No

You can't change configuration of any rented ship

[proud bay]

I cant crack large rocks with my prospector with lancet laser. Any suggestion?

[twilit ice]

I seem to be unable to find any good patches...

I don't think I'm looking in the right bands

[sacred loom]

U need to run modules such as surge and stampede to do the larger rocks. Also requires some practice if u are new to it

[lapis magnet]

Would changes to trade be in the PTU? Or would we have to wait for the actual update to find out if anything's changed?

[viral heath]

quantum might lead to a price crash for quantinium

depending on how players flood the market

[devout thistle]

i'm sure there will be no problems when pyro comes out

[twilit ice]

Quartz will be the new money maker, mark my words

[silk ridge]

[tired birch]

did the quant deposits on lyria get nerfed?

[autumn cedar]

from what I've read in this channel, doesn't look like it, maybe bad rng? I know sometimes I have overly long sessions in Aaron Halo trying to find a decent rock.

[topaz burrow]

quck quesion. If I choose only to refine one material, can I sell the rest as unrefine or are they lost?

[hollow geyser]

question for you seasoned mining citizens... I remember reading there was an issue with attaching the better mining heads on the prospector, if purchased in-game with aUEC, is that still an issue?

[pallid temple]

Anything unselected in the refining terminal is lost

[topaz burrow]

Thank you

[tired birch]

Shouldn’t be an issue. Go with the MH1 with a surge/stampede/brandt module

[twilit ice]

I’ve got an MH1 on my Prospector, both earned with aUEC

[hollow geyser]

awesome, thanks @tired birch @twilit ice

[shy crane]

I thought the Lancet was the shiz...what's the MH1?

[twilit ice]

The most recommended mining laser

The Lancet MH1

[shy crane]

doh! got it

[north oyster]

Upgrading to the cutty from the Nomad was an excellent move, imo. The Cutlass Black is the Swiss Army Knife of SC. It's good at everything, it's great at nothing

[north oyster]

You can rent a ROC for 4k aUEC

[north oyster]

Mining Head, size 1

[shy crane]

thanks...got it 🙂 I've got the Lancet loaded....just didn't realize it was called the MH1 as well

[twilit ice]

What refinery station do you guys call home? The prospector doesn’t really have a lot of QT distance

[fierce rover]

ARC-L1

[north oyster]

CRU-L1 because of the Quantainium 3% bonus and close to Aaron's Halo

[twilit ice]

Do you jump to ARC-L3? That seems to be the closest

[north oyster]

The Prospector does have good range with the default QT engine. Some use the to fastest with is no range. I use one that is fast and has good range

[twilit ice]

My buddy had be buy the VK-00

And it’s fast but man do you run out of fuel

[north oyster]

Yes, I use CRU-L3 as my primary point of reference

[twilit ice]

Close enough lol

I still need to buy the other modules

I’ve just not gotten lucky with high yield rocks, I think I need to get better at jumping out of quantum

[north oyster]

I use the Voyage, it is slower than the VK-00, but then again, everything else is slower than the VK. I never need to worry about running out of fuel. I also do a lot of prospecting and surveying in the different bands to try to find the best spots for Quantainium. I've recorded over 150 jumps trying to get a pattern

[twilit ice]

The rocks are an elusive mistress, cruel and swift.

[north oyster]

I have discovered a pattern, so I'm happy with my investment

[fierce rover]

I don't tend to mine at the Halo. I mine at Lyria cause personally it works better for me.
I pulled up about 5 million yesterday in a prospector in just 3ish hours.

I geuss it comes down to preference.

[north oyster]

that's awesome, yes Lyria is a great place to mine

[fierce rover]

Only issue, is you're more likely to see people at Lyria.

[north oyster]

that's the issue that I never have to worry about, LOL

[shy crane]

made two Lyria runs today.....not really good but you have good days and bad

[north oyster]

tru dat

[fierce rover]

Yeah, it's a 50/50 also gotta worry about the server glitches.

You can get a glitch where it won't spawn rocks over 2-3%

Just gotta server hop.

[north oyster]

If the dice gods don't like you, it doesn't matter where you mine, you ain't gonna find good rock

[fierce rover]

word.

[north oyster]

3.17 is going to change mining in some surprising ways

[shy crane]

good or bad?

[north oyster]

not a value rating in that manner, but rather it will change how ping & scans are done. Scanning is still messed up in 3.17 but the change to the PING is going to throw some folks

You will still get target returns from 15k out BUT the icon for the target will no longer spawn at 5k, it will only spawn when within 1.5k of the target

So you will have no idea of what kind of target you have until you are almost right on top of the deposits

I think the ping for the small ROC deposits has gotten some love, but 3.17 hasn't been stable enough for me to verify that yet

[autumn cedar]

evening, @north oyster how are you?

[lyric nest]

If I let someone fly my mole. Would they be able to sell/refine the ore without me being their?

[north oyster]

Big Z, doing good. Busier than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest though

[north oyster]

no, I think the owner has to process the ore. You can ask Cross because he runs about 10 MOLES at a time.

[autumn cedar]

yeah I agree on this, since it's the same procedure if you run cargo in someone else's ship, only the owner can then sell the stuff

[ashen trout]

Anyone interested in a 7k mass, 28% QT rock on Lyria? It's too big for me.

[unborn trout]

Ah nice

[willow dust]

Can you have a rover inside the Cutlass?

[coarse cape]

You can put a roc in the cutty

[willow dust]

Cool

[lilac hedge]

🤞

[austere grotto]

why wont my mining laser break apart rocks wtf

[ashen trout]

Do you have the right MH1 laser? Is your intensity turned up? How large is the mass of the rock you're trying to break?

(I'm new, and these are things that I learned by trial)

[austere grotto]

I just got it to work

anddddd overcharged it now my ship wont boot

[ashen trout]

I have struggled with that as well - I am not sure if there is a technical explanation, but I think when the rock cracks with some overcharge, something causes the power on the Prospector turn off, and it's essentially dead. Your engines will start, and you can open/close the door, but the ship won't turn on.

[austere grotto]

engines will start meaning i can fly away or

[ashen trout]

From what I can tell, the ship treats power and engines separately.

when it has happened to me I have had to backspace out of there, or get a ride, and claim my ship.

[austere grotto]

backspace, respawn then grab my stuff again right

cause I dont wanna lose evrything in my local invent lol

[ashen trout]

respawning won't fix your ship

it still won't fly

[austere grotto]

yeah but I can fly back, grab my shit off my body then claim it right

[ashen trout]

I think so - I'm not sure if backspacing gives you access to your corpse or not. Maybe someone else here knows

[twilit ice]

If you just die, yes, if you detonate your ship, no

[patent aurora]

Does anyone have current charts to find the Aaron Halo? If so, any chance you can PM me with them 🙂

[twilit ice]

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

@patent aurora

[patent aurora]

Thank you Scotty

[twilit ice]

No problem! Band 5 got that goodgood

[patent aurora]

Fantastic. Will you find anything in between the bands? Or just dead space?

[twilit ice]

Not entirely dead space, but density will be significantly less sparse

[lean oyster]

When u base out of CRU L1 where is the fastest place to sell? Let's assume fastest QT drive. Crusader atmosphere is longer than QT anywhere lol

I feel like ArcCorp? Short train to trading center and quick decent

[north oyster]

Close, very good deduction. There Is a rating called shatter damage that is a spec on the mining process. The amount of overcharge that happens when the rock breaks determines the amount of shatter damage. Also when you use something like the surge consumable the shatter damage is increased by 200%, guaranteeing that your ship will be blown to pieces. There is a consumable called the lifeline that greatly reduces shatter damage

[north oyster]

Band 5 Is the most densely populated astroid ring in Aaron’s halo. I have found that the density of quantainium isn’t as high as you think it would be. Also because of the density you get a lot of dud scans. Of course mileage varies, and others may have great luck there. While you are hunting I would recommend checking out band 1. This is the least dense populated band but I tend to find quantainium all over the place as well as way less dud scans.

Band 4 and Band 6 are also very productive

[ashen trout]

thanks for the explanation - I've never heard of shatter damage before. Where do I find the lifeline consumable? I need this in excess!

[north oyster]

The LifeLine is sold at Refinery stores (you will need to use your mouse wheel at the top menu to scroll because they are hidden to the right and no hint that there is more in the menu than just the cloths and armor). Avoid the using the Surge until you have mastered the laser power control and can keep it in the green without too much in the red. The Red decreases at a much slower rate than the green. The Stampede consumable doubles the speed that the green fills up.

[ashen trout]

@austere grotto - check this out. It looks like this could help both of us.

[north oyster]

The HUD is really washed out, so you have to really take a moment to notice the contrast of when the Laser has brought the charge up to the green zone and not rush into the red. The Lancet is very responsive, you can throttle it up and down a little. Now the mouse wheel is really a pain to use, so do the best you can. I have a joystick with a slider that makes a world of difference when mining.

[ashen trout]

I thought that was just my monitor!

[north oyster]

No, it's brutal

[twilit ice]

I hope they can adjust the HUDs soon-ish, cause like... Man, is it hard to differentiate at times

[north oyster]

I think it’s adjusted in 3.17 But the sad thing is that the game has not been stable enough for me to actually get in a ship and see if that is true

[narrow cliff]

Has anyone tried the ROC on the PTU??? they did you fix the extraction mode problem?

[north oyster]

I wanted to but 3:17 hasn’t been stable enough at anytime since being released.

Because a couple other things have been addressed like the ping and scan distances for small deposits

[thin escarp]

@north oyster yeahhh

its been heard researchin

but i got some good info thats coming in my new guide.

[narrow cliff]

they have to improve mining in ROC, it is essential for people who are just starting to farm, it is not my case but I know many who do need it

go to aberdeen and find diamonds under stones because they spawned a bug or that the extraction mode scatters the diamonds on you is a nuisance

[hollow sedge]

how hard is mining, i'm thinking of buying a ROC, what are the profits on it? I'm looking for a chiller way to make money thats not all pve/pvp, does mining provide that?

also does it fit in the 400i?

[lean oyster]

Mining definitely provides that. I'm not sure about profits of roc mining, but prospector/mole mining quant in the halo is comparable money to speed running vhrt or ert bounties.

I know roc mining is significantly less, but it's a very fun/relaxing game loop

[glad sun]

I tried this evening for grins, but couldn’t make it fit. The ship’s belly and underside turret got in the way. Back to renting Cutty’s for a little longer. Cutty is more practical - faster to get in and out.

[hollow sedge]

ah ok, well than ig to follow up, should i rent roc and cutty or rent a prospector?

[wintry mango]

Hmm, still cant decide on big cargoship

Is the C2 as much better handlingwise than the caterpillar as it seems? (much higher speed and turning)

(id love a caterpillar for the style of it)

[marble crater]

C2 handles much nicer and can load alot of different vehicles. having said that I still love the Cat

[wintry mango]

yeah, feels like it got almost twice the speed and turning compared to the cat

Would you say the same? I only got a short test

[marble crater]

twice as good handling would be a fair comparison

[autumn cedar]

hello rock breakers and box haulers

how is everyone today

[hollow sedge]

if i’m renting the prospector, and i can’t do quantanium, what should i do

[wintry mango]

Not much to do mate

you need the bought one for QT

I grinded illegal monitors to be able to afford mine

[lean oyster]

Unfortunately until 3.17 u can't change the load out of a rental, and the default prospector can't mine quant. I'm not sure what it can mine but ppl in here can prob help

[lean oyster]

This is the decision I've been mulling on ever since a got my mole. The Connie isn't cutting it anymore and want a big cargo.

It was also between the C2 and cat for me and I landed on the C2. It's way faster in atmo and can carry around vehicles if needed and extra SCU for outright cargo runs. The cat prob wins out once tractor beams and its modular compartments are relevant. But since I'm just buying with aUEC I'm sure there will be a wipe before then lol.

[lean oyster]

This was my dilemma too haha. Cat just has so much more character than C2 it seems like. But I'm sure that novelty would wear off and I'd miss the benefits of the C2

[wintry mango]

They change the rental system in 3.17?

[wintry mango]

The caterpillar sure have benefits over the C2, just not implemented yet

[north oyster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYTjNnzHqO8

[north oyster]

They are introducing new mining attachments, almost like "portable components" that miners can attach to ore deposits. This might compensate the rental laser head enough to make it worth trying at the cost of a little more effort.

[north oyster]

I think you will be very happy with the C2. She shines in every aspect of cargo ship and will be the largest capacity of ship to surface cargo transport until the BMM comes in game. The Starlifter has excellent performance and looks great. I've not regretted getting one.

[wintry mango]

Ah, sounded like it was some certain change

We'll see about the gadgets

[wintry mango]

Btw regarding that, do the players have to land ships and exit them to transport? Accidently blew up someone

[autumn cedar]

If you mean to move the cargo onto the ship, then yes, you need to exit the ship

[north oyster]

Accidentally blew up? Did you land on them? Yes, like Zag said, you have to interact with the trade terminal for ship cargo transactions

[wintry mango]

He was in his ship, so counted as ramming i think

[north oyster]

Yeah, I see that every day in real life on the interstate

[terse sable]

I own a prospector and i was wondering can i refine a ton of material and then rent a cutty to transport it ? like is there an infinite amount of work orders i can do in the refinery?

[topaz burrow]

yes, you can rent cutty. It has 64 SCU you can use to shift rafinery stuff to traders. Yes you can set unlimineted number of rafinery jobs

[lean oyster]

Pay VERY close attention to when 3.17 drops here in the next few weeks. Once a big patch drops and you and your items are transported to a new starting city, you will lose ALL your refinery jobs.

[wintry mango]

Think the Freelancer has a bit more storage

[marble crater]

yeah Cutty 46 scu, Freelancer 66 scu & Constellation Andromeda 96 scu are your 3 rentable options

[placid bison]

so im new to running cargo and i cant select a location to put the cargo idk what the problem is can someone help

[gaunt fiber]

what ship are you trying to run cargo in?

[placid bison]

drake cutlass black

[gaunt fiber]

Make sure your ship has storage and is stored at your current location

it’s also possible it’s a bug with the terminal system. I’ve had that happen to me before

[placid bison]

yea i do but it says uninatialized idk if that has anything to do with it

[gaunt fiber]

have you flown this ship before?

[placid bison]

what the cutlass black yea i have been all day now

[gaunt fiber]

hmm, I’m not sure what uninitialized means for the ship

are you trying to buy commodities from a terminal somewhere?

[placid bison]

me neither im trying to run titanium from aerial to hurston

[gaunt fiber]

if you have the ship with you, then you should be good. However, when the terminal is buggy like that, I usually logout and back in again.

[placid bison]

i just did that ima try it again now

[gaunt fiber]

okay, that should help

[placid bison]

if not ig ill have to do bountys again

[dry nymph]

is doing cargo with small ships worth it

[gaunt fiber]

probably not worth it, unless you’re strapped for credits…. but if that’s the case, you are really risking everything to buy a commodity

[dry nymph]

what would be the way to go for starting out with money

cause i do search missions and it doesnt earn a lot

i want to buy the 315p

[gaunt fiber]

you’ll gain rep the more missions you do… they’ll start to become more profitable

[dry nymph]

with the search missions

[gaunt fiber]

box delivery, for example, starts out at 3/4K - then maxes out at 45K

[dry nymph]

wow

[gaunt fiber]

it goes 4K, 8K, then 45K

but you have to do a number of those missions

[dry nymph]

ok is this also the case with searcg missions

search*

[gaunt fiber]

and be sure to do them all from the same area in the solar system to gain rep in that area and unlock the better missions

search missions can be good

[dry nymph]

but do they level in reputation as the deliveries do

[gaunt fiber]

for the cave missions, you can take a hand mining tool and do some mining in the cave to make it even more profitable

[placid bison]

should i do the box missions if so how long do they take each?

[gaunt fiber]

depending on how fast you can do the pickup and the landings… may 20-30 mins a mission

you’ll start off with one box to pickup and deliver

[placid bison]

i may do those if cargo dont go good this time

[gaunt fiber]

then it’ll be three boxes to pickup from one location to deliver to three locations OR three diff locations to pickup three boxes to deliver to one location

[dry nymph]

yentra but do the search contracts become more profitable over time?

[gaunt fiber]

yes

[dry nymph]

ok so it starts out at 11k

then what?

[gaunt fiber]

I’m not sure what the next level is for search

[dry nymph]

i can just look it up

[gaunt fiber]

but they do get more interesting, you’ll search for cargo on derelict ships out in space

[dry nymph]

thats interesting

[gaunt fiber]

the riskier ones have you picking up volatile cargo that will explode in x mins after you pick it up

the box delivery 45K jobs involve you picking up three boxes from a facility that has enemies in it… so kind of a low-level FPS

[dry nymph]

so ive done about 10 missions in arccorpses zone

when will it level up or where can i check my progress

[stoic hawk]

Should be in the Delphi tab, far right of your Mobiglas

Generally you can check your ranks for different factions there

[north oyster]

No limit on refinery jobs. However, when the new patch drops in a few weeks, any left in the refinery will get deleted

[wintry mango]

Speaking of patches, how much warning do they give before applying them?

[north oyster]

None, but it's like you know it's going to rain soon so you'll know within a few days the patch is about right to go LIVE

[hollow sedge]

What's the maximum resistance the rental prospector can handle? Also, what kind of materials should i be looking for, i can only seem to find gold, diamond, etc and i looked for a good hour or so in the main belt. Any other suggestions? I tried mining for a while and pretty much got nothing

[autumn cedar]

if I'm not mistaken, rented Prosp can also break rocks containing Laranite, which can be sold for a solid price when refined. Try looking some more, you're bound to find some. Hopefully @north oyster is around to confirm or correct me.

[north oyster]

You can mine larger rocks in the asteroid belt than you can on a planet surface. With the rental you can mine most anything south of Quantainium. The higher the purity, the more resistance. Band 7 had a lot of Laranite

[hollow sedge]

ok, thanks to you both. Any suggestions on how to get to Band 7? I’ve been using band 5 rn which has higher concentration of asteroids but maybe less good stuff in it?

[north oyster]

Cornerstone pdf has that info. I'd link it but I'm away and on my phone

[hollow sedge]

is it this chart?

any other bands i should try or just 7?

[north oyster]

Band 4 & 6 are good also

[lofty trout]

Late response, but my absolute best location exactly came from 7,777,000 and 7,950,000 those were my best, I guess it really does come down to personal interaction, my luck has dropped a bit though

[lofty trout]

what were the coords for this?

[lean oyster]

Oh jeez I couldn't tell you. I just look at the charts and try to drop out in band 5-6 which are the biggest. Actual rocks are procedural generated from there and spawn likely similar throughout the band

[lofty trout]

you dont even have an estimate? I would look my self but I don't know where to find that chart

is this bad 5-6 from CRU L1 to ARC L3?

[hollow sedge]

is there a reason to avoid 5, just wondering since it’s the largest band

[north oyster]

For me there are two reasons: the amount of Quantainium is too low and the second (and most important) is that the high density results in more dud scans

[hollow sedge]

ah okay, so 7 is best than 4 and 6 for laranite? or are they all good, yea i got a lot of duds, i thought they were bugs at first lol

thanks for all your help so far

[fossil glen]

What’s better.. C2 or Catty?

need to make a decision but idk which is better

[autumn cedar]

if this post from @north oyster wil help you
#industrial-professions message

[fossil glen]

that def does help but is the difference between the C2 and the catty the turrets and the ccu space?

[autumn cedar]

I've just bought my C2 today, it does handle very nice, I've piloted Catt before, and C2 is better.

as for the looks, depends what you prefer - utility/military looks like Catt, or more smooth flowing on C2, and yes C2 carries 100+ scu more

[lean nexus]

anyone willing to scout for me I will talk about pay when you join call

[autumn cedar]

@fossil glen here's a comparison between the two
https://fleetyards.net/ships/compare/?models[]=c2-hercules&models[]=caterpillar

[fossil glen]

Ig for friends and stuff the Catty better

has turrets

They both do act lmao nvrm

Does the 96 scu difference matter in cargo? Or not rly?

[autumn cedar]

It's not that critical, if you find Caterpillar better suited for you, go for it.

[viral heath]

also can the lancetet mine laranite and bexalite too or do i have to get the helix?

[wintry mango]

I was meaning to get the caterpillar, but after testing both i went for the herc. Due to the extreme diff in handling

[torpid hedge]

how do you guys split the money earned from mining with other people?

[fossil glen]

Is it really that noticeable??

[autumn cedar]

as I told you before, I flew both, and yes C2 handles better, it's more responsive

[fossil glen]

Shit now I needa fly a Catty

anyone got one 😂

[north oyster]

C2 is the best cargo ship in game at the moment.

[wintry mango]

The C2 is about twice as responnsive as the caterpillar

[north oyster]

I can't vouch for the Laranite distribution, I mainly noticed that as I searched for Quantainium

[manic estuary]

wonder if i still have time for some mining runs... have a feeling 3.17 goes live soon

[tiny helm]

prob in a week

tbh

[north oyster]

the Hercules is amazing with its handling, flying the CAT is like trying to turn a flat barge around in a river with a strong current ... not fun

[north oyster]

3.17 just opened to all backers, but it might be in PTU for a week or so longer. We will need to listen up to the scuttlebutt to try to guess when it will roll to live. I would be very surprised if it goes LIVE this week for sure.

[rocky plaza]

anyone solo mine in a mole? keep running into larger rocks i cant crack. thinking its my set up but looking for tips

[sacred loom]

Lancet mining head is the only laser u need. Stampede and surge modules to crack the big rocks. It’s not easy tho as u have to 2x surge then stampede when in the green. Easy to go boom.

[rocky plaza]

have lancet II's and surge. what does stampede do?

[sacred loom]

It chews the green zone quicker

U need it for big rocks as it drops out of green before you get to the end on the big rocks with lancet no stampede

[rocky plaza]

ok cool. thanks for the info man!

[subtle cradle]

I have issues with some 6k rocks even with stampede +surge. It seems no matter what it drops out of the green zone before breaking

[sacred loom]

@rocky plaza So basically surge as soon as u start the laser watch your bar and see how far the surge takes u towards the green, then estimate the same amount for your 2nd surge, when in green hit the stampede

[subtle cradle]

Strangely enough the 7k+ ones are easier for me

[sacred loom]

If green goes under half stampede generally fails

[hollow sedge]

is there a reason my scans wont work?

[rocky plaza]

let the rock render in. sometimes you have to get close

[hollow sedge]

it’s fully rendered in, i’m like 100m away

[sacred loom]

Shes a dud, just move on

Plenty rocks are not scnannable

happens to much u need to change server

[hollow sedge]

its happening on like every other rock even with server switches, okay

[balmy shale]

whats the best mining head for a prospector?

[indigo wolf]

Lancet

For quant

[lean oyster]

I do this. I can crack everything in the halo solo (and without any modules), but moon mining I've only done with a partner.

[pliant stump]

anyone available to help break a rock?

[viral heath]

Question regarding loading after refinery. Can we select only to load one specific minerals or is it load by refinery ordee

[wispy flume]

Anyone wanna mine with prospectors

[lean oyster]

Load by order unfortunately

One if the reasons I had to upgrade my Connie from being my hauler after I got a mole. 2x 50scu orders it can only hold 1. But could hold 3x 32scu orders. Lost all my efficiency

[viral heath]

yah max can hold 4 32

mole means cat or hull g

lol

or not

damn still 3

cos max is 120scu

argh

[narrow cliff]

ROC fixed 3.17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e53IVBzj880

Mining QT 3.17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiqohq3uv4U

I leave you these videos that I found, the truth is very good news for the ROC and QT mining seems to me that it is bad news to see such a small green window. They are not my videos but thanks to those who have already been doing tests in PTU

[wispy flume]

i just found a 7900 rock 49% and a 21% i need help mining it let me know if you are down

[torpid hedge]

I can help

if you are still there

[marble crater]

thanks for the share, great to see ROC get some attention

[viral heath]

yep hadda char reset tp get rid of dupe ship

now have to grind arccorp rep

lol

[obtuse sand]

how profitable is hauling space crack?

is it worth doing that?

[terse hatch]

What are some good trade routes? Cargo types?

[viral heath]

sctrades

yeeha.. backspace in ship never gets old

[thin escarp]

@obtuse sand drugs is tough

[viral heath]

hmm maxlancer.. black or snow camo paint for 85k?

[ashen trout]

Where can you find that? I just upgraded and not loving the orange.

[viral heath]

gh dumper depot

worth breaking a 4.3k mass 16% quant rock?

[thin escarp]

ehh

I'd pass

[viral heath]

so what height i should be scanning?> 1km or 3 km altitude?

[thin escarp]

1700 alt

only stop for pairs n clusters

[viral heath]

ok thanks for the tips

i gonna try the om1 method

[thin escarp]

@viral heath I've been having great luck at the pit

basically I jump to the pit. do a 180. fly towards sun.

fast af. 1700 alt

[viral heath]

ok gonna give that shot..

nice 5.6k mass 27% quant rock

[thin escarp]

enjoy

:)

[viral heath]

so surge at the beginning?

then stampede

and then brandy for the high % quant frag?

hmm can the lancetet break a 5.6k mass rock though>?

[sacred loom]

not without a surge'

or perhaps if u find its sweet spot

[viral heath]

so look for those <5k with high quant?

[sacred loom]

People have different theories

I take anything 20% and up if its a -5min find

150k or so in 5 mins seems fine to me, and if u have a big Hauler. Just load it all up and make the money

Otherwise u could follow this mate

[wispy flume]

i mined a 6969 rock earlier solo prospector! id say 7100 is the cutoff point

[deep vector]

I did 6000 solo with lancet, but was kinda lucky with instability

[thin escarp]

@viral heath u can def. break 5600 and under with lancet.

I have a few loadouts in my guide

[tribal imp]

these are awesome. prospector UI is no longer super bright and ROC extraction is now smooth. no more swirly gems.

[north oyster]

I'm impressed with the latest 3.17 build, for the first time I've been able to get off the planet, complete a trade. HOWEVER, the thrusters on the C2 makes the ship seem like it has No mass and is difficult to maneuver. Thanks to @narrow cliff for sharing the mining footage.

[autumn cedar]

is the manoeuvring difficult only while traveling through planet's atmo or is it present in space too?

[north oyster]

No not at all, it's when you are trying to land in a small hanger with a huge ship. You need to be very gingerly with the controls. The ship moves way too easily

She flies like a sports car at the moment

[autumn cedar]

Oh that, yeah i usually don't make sudden movements when entering hangars, even with small ships 🙂

[north oyster]

I normally don't but that is just it, when you think you didn't make a sudden movement by normal standards it is a huge movement with a ship acting like it has no mass at all

You have to fly one to get the experience about what I'm talking about. I do hope they fix it soon

[autumn cedar]

oh i'm piloting C2 since yesterday, and I agree, even small inputs on thrusters, move this giant a lot

[autumn cedar]

I watched this vid like 2hrs ago and until I read your comment didn't even notice the hud readability improvement. I'm so glad the glare is gone, that was a strain on the eyes.

[north oyster]

it was almost like its own sub-game of survival

[autumn cedar]

lol

[serene quest]

Where can I find the output bonuses for each refinery

[autumn cedar]

https://sc-trade.tools/refineries

[serene quest]

tyty

[autumn cedar]

you're welcome

[ashen trout]

It's time to humble myself and ask for help - I am struggling to figure out what I am doing wrong. Here's a picture of my typical view - I have a hard time increasing the charge on a rock lately and I can't figure it out. I just barely tried adding the Lifeline on this attempt, but to be honest I don't know when to use it. I'm trying to follow the tips I've found but if anyone could look at my setup and provide better insight I would be super grateful.

[serene quest]

get closer

yous ee that green bar on your left?

says effective range

it's not maxed out

[ashen trout]

how close is too close? I have tried different ranges and when I get too close and actually crack it I shatter the ship. (although that is why I got the lifeline to try out)

If I was closer in that optimal range, how long would you guess it takes to crack a rock this size? I wonder if I am also being impatient.

[obtuse sand]

takes like a minute or so

also with your current mining laser, the arbor, it’s gonna be near impossible to mine quantanium from rocks like that

if you wanna get quant, head to an L1 station and get yourself a lancet mining laser

[ashen trout]

ohhhh I didn't realize that - I had to do a character reset and I think my Lancet MH1 didn't get re-installed

[serene quest]

oh you've got an arbor?

yeah that's gonna be tough

you wana pick up a Lancet or a Helix at least

[ashen trout]

I must have seen the MH1 on there and didn't realize it wasn't the Lancet. yeah I've got that laser, I'll re-equip it.

[obtuse sand]

also for the distance, a mere couple of meters isn’t unheard of, just back away really quickly if it starts over charging

[serene quest]

should solve like 90% of your problems lol

[ashen trout]

haha sometimes it takes another set of eyes - I'll swap that and get a little closer for another try.

what about using the lifeline? any best practices on when to use that?

I feel relieved cause most of my frustrations has been since I did a reset.

[simple river]

It's for if the rock is about to crack (there is a progress bar) and u r in the red, use lifeline and I believe it takes back down to the green so ur ship doesn't blow up

[ashen trout]

awesome - thanks fellas. I'll give those a shot and looking forward to sharing a success story

[thin escarp]

@ashen trout I got some prospector loadouts in my guide pinned in this channel

highly recommend.

[vivid flume]

hey guys. Im very new to the game but i really wanna learn more about mining. If anyone could spare some time to teach me the basics it would be much appreciated. thanks.

[thin escarp]

I'll be posting my 3.17 guide a few days after 3.17 hits. but I do have my mining gadget guide nearly finished nowm

@vivid flume I'll dm ya

[obtuse sand]

good luck!

[velvet grail]

how do you find the caves

[south badge]

Hello. Can someone send me Mole Fitting?

[loud mirage]

@south badge in the first pinned comment there is a document from Cross that is verry helpfull

[dawn pebble]

hello

is anyone here

[potent tinsel]

always someone here

[dawn pebble]

is it worth trying to m,ine with a rented prospector

[gaunt fiber]

I think so

you’ll be able to break the smaller 4K rocks with that ship

if you buddy up with another prospector, it really becomes profitable - you can break the bigger rocks and fill up both ships with QT

[terse lark]

what is "Max RS Signature"

[worldly drift]

Where should I mine

[mossy shuttle]

That just tells you how many rocks are in that area. 5000 = 1 rock, increasing at 5000 / rock. So signatures over 5000 usually mean pairs or clusters.

[brazen thistle]

is argo raft good ? I just saw it will be available for in game purchase and i absolutely love that industrial look... just wish it was bigger.

[obtuse sand]

where's the best place to sell my refined ore at?

[willow dust]

What’s like a good ship to buy after the cutty that’s a type of expedition/cargo/freight ship?

[serene quest]

Nomad is pretty decent imo

good replacement for the Titan

if you want something larger than cutty, Freelancer is good as well

[ashen trout]

thanks for the eyes earlier. I'm not sure how to use the other modules yet, but I'd say this load was a success!

[thin forum]

is there a best spot for roc mining

freelancer max is cool

caterpillar is a good cargo ship if you like the drake design but don't expect to quickly take off from big planets

[thin forum]

just sell at the TDD on planets

afaik they all buy for the same amount(?) so don't need to travel around

lemme check that

yep all the same

area 18 TDD, lorville TDD or new babbage TDD

[primal sapphire]

Looking to join some one

[sacred loom]

@thin forum Aberdeen or Arial mate.

[thin escarp]

@ashen trout I mainly use passive

so no extra work necessary

[past current]

Do you really nead modules for moon mining ?

And should i stay at crul1 or go to arcl1

Is th 3% yeld modifier whorth it ?

[pliant stump]

anyone tryna mine

[worldly drift]

i would but i dont have any of the mining stuff needed

[pliant stump]

Gonna start up in a little bit, have 1 crew for mole currently

[sturdy nymph]

can you also link me the video for it? I want to learn the basics and such with a new video since some are out of date

[thin escarp]

3.17 isn't out yet I'm not finished. by my pdf guide pinned in this channel is still relevant

I'm mainly updating a few things like mining gadgets.

@sturdy nymph dm me I'll send ya some of my video guides.

[daring basalt]

anyone need any help mining?

[random rampart]

Hi, the Helix II still the best mining head ? 🤔

[bold yew]

I am trying to not use lancet heads and use mining gadgets for stability with a helix to see if it works. 3.17

[quasi dragon]

For quant no its the lancet

[bold yew]

Ya for 3.16 lancet is the way

also much cheaper than helix, only place I use that on live is as my scooping head on the mole.

[random rampart]

Okay, thanks

[pliant stump]

@daring basalt are you still lfg?

[thin escarp]

@random rampart if your talking for the mole. i run a helix 2 lancet 2 and hofstede 2

on my mole

but prospector is size 1 and its pretty much lancet or bust

[bold yew]

I am thinking next patch the mole wont have to use a lancet any more

[ashen trout]

Oh so just keep them equipped and let it ride? Maybe mining is for me after all.

[thin escarp]

yep

i'll be mining here ina bit delivering some quant now

if you wanna earn and learn

[ashen trout]

I just might. I’ll hit you up if I get on after getting the kids down.

[thin escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sir-yes-boss-military-salute-giving-honor-rip-gif-23161689

[indigo wolf]

You think you could DM one of your vids to bc everyone says mining makes you bank but in my experience it sucks so I must be doing something wrong

[thin escarp]

Def check out my pdf pinned in this channel

but i gotchu

[hollow sedge]

Is trade cap still in Live for 3.16.1?

[sacred loom]

yep.

[hollow sedge]

Damn how bad?

[sacred loom]

Im not sure what you mean, all the resources are shared amongst everyone. Can still make reasonable money tho

[hollow sedge]

I was asking if it was bottlenecked as bad as 3.13

[sacred loom]

sometimes when I trade there is not much around, But u can wait 5 mins for a refresh and see how it goes

[twilit ice]

Much better quant run right now, 24/32 SCU of quant from 2 good percentage rocks

[hollow sedge]

Nice

[hollow sedge]

What's the best ship for solo mining?

[ornate adder]

What's the upgrades needed for the Prospector?

[twilit ice]

Check the pinned guide

[thin escarp]

for anyone interested in what each mining gadget does.

@north oyster

@marble crater

enjoy homies

[bold yew]

I was messing around on PTU and I was able to receive cargo from a base with no landing pad. Illicit drug running might be back on the table 🙂

[marble crater]

Great stuff love your work Cross!

[twilit ice]

Does anyone else’s scanning often break in ‘V’ mode in the prospector?

[bold yew]

Not really, but one thing I noticed that people do wrong on unscanable rocks is if you just wait a few min, most will become scannable.

[thin escarp]

@twilit ice shoot the rock

[bold yew]

As long as it has a mass bar on the left (most do)

[thin escarp]

get real close or switch rocks

[twilit ice]

That works even in belt? I read it only works on planet

[bold yew]

The thing with all those tricks, is it is mostly just the time that is passing, not what we do. The rock has simply not propagated with its info yet.

[thin escarp]

ahh

your in the halo.

oof

[twilit ice]

Yeah but I keep running into these glitches

Might start jumping to Lydia

[bold yew]

Good question, I was testing on lyria.

[thin escarp]

@bright star did u make my name pretty. #BestAdmin

[marble crater]

so are they changing anything else in mining like resistances/instability/mining head stats?
the new modules are great but if nothing's changed then do they serve a purpose (besides buffing rental prospectors)?

[twilit ice]

Giving Lyria a try this time

[cedar flower]

IMPORTANT:
Make Sure your Mining jobs are cleared due to 3.17 being close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ThLbMIfVo

[marble crater]

might go chuck 300scu of quant in the refinery now

[twilit ice]

Where have you been keeping it in the meantime?

[wary gust]

Whats the best trading ships?

[tribal imp]

C2 Hercules for maximum profit

[wary gust]

Any others because ive been looking at like a catipiller or prospector considering i already have a raft

[hollow sedge]

Catipillar is max cargo I think

Any is good as long as it does the job to the level you want to do it at

For best I think a ship that has the best travel time per cargoload ratio

But I don't know enough ships in SC to know which specific one would be best

[pallid temple]

C2 has more room for cargo

[brazen thistle]

how is raft ? i saw its going to be for purchase in game. Love that industrial look. only if it has bigger cargo.

[wary gust]

Its got 96 scu and if you wanna try it out just lemme know ill let ya borrow it im in vc rn

[silk ridge]

or max loss 😆

[mighty gazelle]

Raft is next month's sub ship so if you sub then you'll get to try it out for yourself.

[tribal imp]

I'm getting a raft in game for my quant cargo. 3 prospector runs should fill it. Also you can't see the cargo in the raft anyway.

[brazen thistle]

thanks! but unfortunately i am at work rn.

[brazen thistle]

yea, been thinking about the same. however for the same purpose i am saving for Connie taurus now. it has double the cargo... but will probably buy both anyway 😄

[wary gust]

Ill be on all day so if you want to later lemme know

[placid bison]

whats the best way to be able to afford a prospecter and start mining any mission tips i should do to save up for a prospecter?

[pastel field]

Do illegal surveillance missions, you need only scan out the three proves and pop them

3 of those missions and you can afford to rent prospector for a day

[placid bison]

u cant mine quant with it if u rent tho right, whats the next best thing

[potent tinsel]

if you have a friend who owns a prospector, dual halo mining can be quite profitable. Crack rocks together then while one delivers ore to refinery, the other is already scouting for the next rock.

[placid bison]

i dont have friends that really play sc

[potent tinsel]

dont be afraid to ask in chat. that's how i got started, just scouting for other random players.

[radiant flower]

you can come and join my session if you want i can give you my prospector so you can try it

add me as friend, same name

[placid bison]

gimme a sec

[pliant stump]

Anyone looking to mine?

[craggy silo]

U still looking for someone?

[thin escarp]

@marble crater bigger rocks coming.

haven't noticed too much difference. I got like 7-8 people researching everything mining on ptu to update my guide.

I'm thinkin we still got at least 5-7 days of mining before extreme risk happens of losing orders happens

highly recommend ferron exchange method until 3.17 hits.

[north oyster]

If you go to the outer bands (Band 1 or 8) these are much thinner and also do not have as many dud scans associated with them. I also find they have more Quantainium, certainly Band 1

[north oyster]

Can you ask Sparky about pinning the cornerstone paper for Aaron's Halo bands and locations?

[light ledge]

Hello, can Avenger titan do mining missions?

[north oyster]

it can Scout, but other than that, no

[thin escarp]

@north oyster what if I make a better one. ;)

[north oyster]

You never mess with the Halo, that'd be a surprise, LOL

[thin escarp]

@light ledge you could hand mine aswell but don't recommend.

@north oyster I'll never confess that back in the day I was a asteroid miner.

[north oyster]

LOL, that works

[lilac hedge]

I hope the stasis containers are still something they're planning for component transport

[pliant stump]

DM me if you'd like to mine, I havent seen the @'s x.x

[twilit ice]

I’m struggling to mine anything around or above 5K in mass in my Prospector, any tips?

[potent tinsel]

which mining head are you using? Ive only used Lancet while Halo mining and been able to crack the 5100 rocks.

supposedly Lyria gets much bigger and the Prospector won't crack them without module help

[twilit ice]

Lancet MH1, per Cross’s guide

[coarse cape]

Are you in optimal range @twilit ice

[silk ridge]

I've cracked 5500 without active modules. Just with 2 Vaux-C3 to make it more stable.

[twilit ice]

Yeah, the bar is full

I was trying to find the weak spots but I couldn’t get them consistent enough and detonated the rock and my prospector 🥲

[silk ridge]

takes a while to find the right spot on the rock tho xD

[coarse cape]

Did you put any modules on it

[twilit ice]

I

Think I lost them after I crashed

That might be why

[coarse cape]

Yeah when you claim your prospector you lose the modules

[potent tinsel]

not sure where youre mining, but lancet without modules can crack and mine anything in the halo with practice.

[potent tinsel]

lol this is how i learned to crack asteroids without modules. didn't realize i had lost them until several trips later.

[wise flume]

heya im new here whats the best current cargo trip do be doing for money gain?

[thin escarp]

@twilit ice thats why

those mods help alot on lyria.

scotty i got space on my mole if you wanna come mining with me rn

[pliant stump]

How much space? O.O

[thin escarp]

trippin are you on my server rn LOL

[pliant stump]

yeah

[thin escarp]

i got 2 seats.

[pliant stump]

I'll fill one

[wise flume]

what does one do on a MOLE?

[thin escarp]

laser operator. breaks rocks.

supports the main laser breaking and scooping rocks etc

[wise flume]

is arial on hurston good for trading cargo?

[thin forum]

What ship are you rocking?

If you're new to the game and don't have a big ship, I genuinely would not recommend trading for money. It's slow, boring, there's a chance for big monetary losses due to bugs/disconnects, and you'll make a tiny fraction of the money you would from mining/bounties/bunkers.

However, if you want to try it anyway, this is a great tool.

https://uexcorp.space/trade

Especially the 'routes' tab.

[north oyster]

Hi Canned, the MOLE is a multi-crew Mining Ship, the Prospector is the single player mining ship.

[wise flume]

Cutty black I just got it

[wise flume]

@thin forum how big do u think i should go ship wise

[thin forum]

If you want to be trading, you really want to get yourself something like a C2. You need a massive cargo capacity -- with the amount of agricium you can fit in a cutlass, you're going to be making a really shit amount of UEC compared to any other activity.

[wise flume]

fair enough

im just sick of monitor missions XD

and bunker

[thin forum]

Try mining, if you haven't already! It's a repetitive activity just like bunkers, but it's something you can play a bit more 'brainlessly' than bunkers/monitors.

A ROC is super cheap and will fit inside a Cutlass, and you can make reasonable money with it.

[wise flume]

coolio thanks!

wait

can i rent a large cargo ship

[thin forum]

I think you can, but it's probably not worth it. Even with a large cargo ship, you're still going to be making considerably less than you would from basically anything else in the same amount of time. Eating into your profit with expensive rental costs isn't worth it.

C2 isn't rentable but I have a feeling Caterpillar is.

It is, yeah, nearly 100k per day.

[wise flume]

thats like 24 irl hours right

because if i run 1mil of cargo each run with like 10%profit i make 100k each run

and each run should only be less that 30 mins no?

[thin escarp]

biggest rentable cargo ship is the andro

@thin forum@wise flume

thats not gonna work

btw

your not gonna find the cargo

laranite is nearly always out of stock

[thin forum]

yeah the most valuable resources take ages to actually stock up

[thin escarp]

yeah you'll be waiting hours

to fill 1 mil worth of cargo

[thin forum]

yup it's just not worth it in any way shape or form right now, you can make a profit but it's like

a good hours work to make the same as you would doing a 5 minute bunker or bounty

cool to try out just to see how it works but not at all good if you actually want to save up UEC for ships

bounties/mining etc. are what you do when you don't have money and want to buy a ship, trading is what you do when you've stopped caring about aUEC and just want to flex that you've got a massive ship

[wise flume]

is there a place where they have an infinte amount of some commodity that i can just buy and sell

[cedar flower]

you can trade lower value stuff like scrap

[thin forum]

Also, just remember with this that if you buy a million's worth of cargo and then get killed by a bug/stuck/crash/disconnect/get griefed, that's ten runs worth of profit all just blown in a single go.

You could do 1mil runs for like 10 hours and then lose the entirety of that progress in a single moment of the server disconnecting you/bug.

I'd just check the uex site though, it'll show you which commodities are worth what and where to sell 'em, as well as popular trade routes.

[stoic hawk]

As an example I finished up in ArcCorp and wanted to head back to Hurston so I figured I'd pick up some cargo to run with. I was able to buy a total of 50 SCU of Agricium, which is literally like 10% of a herc/cat. I would have been there for hours if I was in something with some real storage.

[quartz copper]

I would say that if you have high Cap like with a C2/Cat then take as much high value cargo then fill up the rest of your storage with something of lesser value, like Laranite and Titanium. but do not buy more then you can afore to lose

[elder mauve]

So, I am still pretty new to the game and just get into mining. Is it better to mine on a planet for Quantanium or in the Aaron Halo?

[shy crane]

I hit a motherload in the Halo today.....made me a believer but I know people have lots of success on Lyria

[elder mauve]

I have been on Lyria and it has been working but I was wondering if I should give the Halo a go. I just wasn't sure.

[shy crane]

I've found that in the halo you'll fine lower percentages of quant...but bigger cluster of rocks...

so you end up breaking more

[quartz copper]

its RNG

[elder mauve]

I'll give it go later today. Might as well as see what is happening in it.

[stoic hawk]

I found 2 separate 5k rocks with 36/37% quant in them within about 20 mins of each other in the halo last night, so it's all RNG

[hoary hinge]

Did a cargo run for the first time yesterday in my 'lancer, but when I filled it at a dirtside farm there were no crates in the cargo bay.
Is cargo not physicalised in 3.16?
I was able to sell it without a problem.