industrial-professions

[foggy dew]

yeah, i never seen one like that but i woudln't be able to mine it either hah

[tired sapphire]

I was finding 8k rocks with like 2 percent quantanium the whole day today

[grizzled bone]

Yeah sometimes you just have bad days

[tired sapphire]

Btw

[grizzled bone]

I've had times where the second I've gotten down to Lyria I found a tasty 40% immediately

[tired sapphire]

Can a prospector mine a 5.8k rock?

Smth like that?

[grizzled bone]

And others where I've spent hours hunting for nothing

[grizzled bone]

I mean maybe with some modules and stuff but I dunno

I find 5k's about the highest I'll attempt when solo

[tired sapphire]

Since earlier today when you helped me, I've only found one more

[grizzled bone]

4.5k realistically is what I call my upper ground

If I'm with a friend and we're both in prospectors we'll go for the big ones too coz with two people mining it you can

[tired sapphire]

Alright

[tired sapphire]

@foggy dew you said "regardless of size, 37 percent is really good. Well I found a rock that has 48 percent quantanium but is only 2895 in mass. What should I do?

[twilit ice]

that's really good

and you can actually fit it in

[tired sapphire]

How do you know how much you're getting out of it?

[twilit ice]

kinda depends how well it splits, i'm not 100% on those parts. We may need a more informed miner to come

[tired sapphire]

Alright.

[lilac hedge]

You pick up their loaded cannisters and give them fresh ones, refine as you fly back to the sell location, sell them, fly back to the mining location, drop off empty canisters, pick up full ones

rinse, repeat

[brazen thistle]

Idk where you are mining but usually there is 2 and more quant rocks together. So crack more of them. Start scooping the best ones and then go to those which are mixed with other stuff.

So your 48% rock should give you almost full prospector.

[thin escarp]

@tired sapphire with surge yes

@tired sapphire definetely break the rock

if they are next to eachother

just break both down

then scoop the 100s only

[hollow sedge]

I overheated my ROC miner, i cant extract or drive

does it take long to cooldown?

god a lot of hidanite to pick up there XD

[brazen thistle]

never happened to me but from what i heard you better say good bye and claim new one.

[hollow sedge]

it started driving for a few sec now

and went ded again

i think need to fully cool it down

[brazen thistle]

nice. so maybe you are not lost case 😄

[hollow sedge]

all the hadanite seems to disappear now slowly big sad

[brazen thistle]

? how come ? from ROC inventory ? or from ground ?

[hollow sedge]

ground

[brazen thistle]

if you reaaaaly want you can collect it manualy by hands 😄

[hollow sedge]

ah hell na

[brazen thistle]

🤣 🤣 🤣

Anyway... can someone confirm if somewhere is better price for quant than 88 or its everywhere the same? according to web area 18 lorevile and new babbage are 88

[compact needle]

why do i keep loosing like 10 scu of quantanium whenever i mine

[lofty trout]

@north oyster ended up figuring out what the option was to freelook with your mining arm to scan stuff or move the laser without moving the ship its G

Also rented a connie and sold my first bunch from yesterday and made 789,478$

not bad!

[marble crater]

nice haul!

[lofty trout]

Can't wait to see what I get tomorrow, these orders were with the ferron method I have 14 others running on DInyx or whatever its called that will be done tomorrow \

hehehe

[marble crater]

better mine up what you can before 3.17 drops

[lofty trout]

yeaahhh, I'm doing a few more runs then gonna stop, are you saying that cause it will cancel everything going in the refinery or is there something else I don't know about

[marble crater]

bunch of changes in ptu so far with how scans work

[lofty trout]

does it make it worse?

[marble crater]

shorter range, all could change but mining is very easy right now so good time to take advantage of it

[lofty trout]

that doesn't sound terrible, Don't mind a little extra work

[north oyster]

Thanks! I'll be sure to try that

Ping is going to surprise those who mine in 3.17

[brazen thistle]

14 orders 🥲 i have 4 and it was hell to find rocks 😄 didint have patience for more.

[zinc tendon]

Honestly shorter pings will be nice for mining. Sometimes there's way too much on my screen

[tired sapphire]

Holy shit

I still haven't found a single quantanium rock that's actually even slightly good

I'm Lyra and don't know where to search

I know "it's on the edges of mountains" and all of that, but I literally can't find anything

[tawny path]

what qt drive should i get for the prospector?

rather best loadout for the prospector?

[tired sapphire]

I give up on mining

[torpid hedge]

only go to the clusters of 2 or more and rocks don't only spawn on mountains idk who told you that but that's just wrong I go in a straight line and usually find something within 15 min

[tawny path]

found a 5K mass with 52%, throttle got stuck and couldn't maneuver past it and blew up....

[sacred loom]

I run a VK00. It’s the fastest around so great for small runs but no good for a long trip Cos it burns through the fuel

[thin escarp]

@tired sapphire dont do that

i'll take ya mining

[tawny path]

is it good for belt and lyria mining?

[sacred loom]

I Mine in the Halo from ARC L1 towards Hurston And ARC L1 to Lyria. Its around half a tank return trip.

[lofty trout]

Go to the halo instead, go to CRU L1 and quantum to ARC L3 and when you have 12-11 mil left to go hop out and then look around, then jump back to CRU L1 after, I had about 11 runs of almost full prospectors of just quant from that section of the halo

[lofty trout]

hehehe yeah it’s pretty great. Read what I just said above this and maybe give that a shot, bet you’ll like it

[foggy dew]

Used the saddle bags as a point of reference to adjust the scale on the image of the Expanse, but looks like it might be somewhere around 32m long... which means it might fit into the hangar of an Odyssey. Maybe...

it looked kinda wide in the concept art, so may not fit due to width still.

[brazen thistle]

That is exactly where i was mining. Tbh the most annoying thing about mining is that sooo many roids are dead... Cant even scan them. Other thing is that prospector has terrible thrusters. If i go just little bit faster then it need like 15km to stop again 😅 so often i just fly by rock i want to scan bcs of that 😅

[marble crater]

nice i'm still not sure what to make of it at this point. guess I'll just have to wait till it's in game and we know more

[jagged ember]

if it can fit in the Polaris it will turn the Polaris into a hybrid LOL

[blazing radish]

Are the planet outposts with no landing pads still bugged?

For cargo

[north oyster]

Wow, the PTU is trashed with the last update, I have yet to be able to log in and test the new mining gadgets. Plus the Hull A was listed on the new patch. But now most everyone is getting an error of Unexpected Token <In JSON at Position 0 so no new gameplay for awhile.

[north oyster]

Some report, I've used my Hercules C2 to land at Humbolt and Loveridge on Lyria and I have been able to make purchases. I part REAL close though, LOL

[north oyster]

I decided to refund the Odyssey because of its limitations (after the FAQ came out). Now the Liberator seems a little more in vision for me. Imaging the Liberator with a Vulcan, Expanse and Prospector onboard. Food & water would be the only need.

[north oyster]

You may have heard me mention this before, but the scanning of asteroids is 100% dependent upon the health of the server. Also, if you scan in very dense areas like Band 5, you will have more dud scans. Ironically I have found that Band 1, which is very thin asteroid belt, scans without too much issues. There are still duds, but near the numbers of other bands.
Todd Papy said that the solution for dud scanning is server meshing, so they are tracking this closely. I was surprised the issue made the "know issues" of the patch notes.

NOTE Bend 1 also seems to have the highest concentration of Quantainium that I have found in the Aaron's Halo

[brazen thistle]

yea, i know health of server matters. but it happen every time so... more likely i am at that band5 as its quite dense there. i dont do mining according to those bands and so on... i do it old fashioned way ... just fly direction of belt and then i just drop at some point when i feel i should be there 😄

[tired sapphire]

I thought people said that Lyra was the best place to go to

[potent tinsel]

youll get lots of opinions, as expected

i got my prospector last sunday and after a first day of mishaps, i've since made 6-7 mil this week with just on and off mining in the Halo. i can't speak for Lyria.

[compact needle]

whats best for mining the belt or lyria?

[potent tinsel]

i just mined about 250K of quant from one rock since i typed my previous message. in the halo.

your results may vary 😉

[compact needle]

how do i get to the belt?

[potent tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/951150103891161159/957277593340616705/3.15.1-LIVE-Rel1-Refinery_to_Aaron_Halo_Mining_Routes.pdf

[tired sapphire]

What mass and percentages did you find?

[potent tinsel]

last one was a 44% that broke into 6 100% pieces so i had to leave scraps on the table unfort.

[tired sapphire]

Cause like I find lots of quantanium rocks on lyra but lots of them have only 2 percent of quantanium

[potent tinsel]

oh there's plenty of those out here too. just patience.

[tired sapphire]

I mean you said you just found a 250k rock

and the mass was around 5000?

cause btw im trying to do this with no modules

only a lancet mining head

[potent tinsel]

me too; no modules.

theyre all 4600, 4900, 5100 out here

roughly

32/32 cargo refines to 3040 units x 88uec = 267k

[tired sapphire]

Alright, bet.

guess I'm going to the halo

one question though (if you know)

If I already have orders in the ARC Refinery station, do I have to go back there or can I go to a dif refinery station and it will already be there?

[potent tinsel]

same one can handle multiple orders

[torpid hedge]

why does the damn server always crash when I am mining

[potent tinsel]

theyre nerfing you for becoming too rich

[obtuse sand]

when you do a synced group warp, how does the warping speed work between ships with different speed drives?

does everyone warp at the speed of the person with the slowest drive?

[tired sapphire]

wdym same one

I mean like

lets say I go mining in the halo and I refine it at Cru L1 but I also already have orders at Arc L1

Are those other orders also going to pop up at Cru L1 or do I literally have to travel to arc l1

[potent tinsel]

youll have to go to each refinery to pick up your order I would assume

[potent tinsel]

sorry misunderstood the question

having any luck with halo?

[lofty trout]

I only ever go 2-300 in those areas and although yeah some scans are bad majority work okay. I mean you’ve seen my numbers works well enough I’m eating good lol! Everyone’s preference but I definitely don’t mind if. Plus it’s pretty low effort out there so I can watch like YouTube or whatever while lmao

[north oyster]

2% is the default rock. If the dice god doesn't like you, that'll be all you find sometimes. Just the other day the first 8 batches I found were 2%

[dusty nimbus]

Any way shape or form that a mole is more profitable than a prospector?

[shy crane]

just added my new modules....anyone have a favorite route/band for mining?

[thin escarp]

@dusty nimbus yeah

solo isnt really worth for mole tho

last night i had 2 perfect 96 runs

on lyria.

i run moles though so i need the bigger rocks.

the halo is more friendly to prospectors. imo.

but with the correct loadout "see my pdf in this channel" lyria can be amazing for all.

i love lyria because i can literally only stop for pairs and clusters and i know its quant. nowhere else do we have that luxury

[glacial dagger]

I like between 11.5 and 12MKm

Pretty much the same as asteroid mining, jsut with added gravity

[thin escarp]

@hollow sedge same thing

except bigger rocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykDBXb9RajM&feature=emb_imp_woyt

this should help ya

i usually stick around 1700 alt. and fly as fast as a i can.

[shy crane]

are there any refineries on Aberdeen? or do you need to go off planet?

[thin escarp]

mic l1 arc l1 cru l1 hur l1 hur l2

are refineries

[north oyster]

One day the refinery will come to you ... in the Expanse

[flint vessel]

Think we will ever get a ship that can mine and refine at the same time?

[hollow sedge]

that would replace both the expanse and prospector

[shy crane]

my cargo ship is stored on Arc-1 with some goods in it.....if I claim it from another station does my cargo come with it?

[pallid temple]

No

[hollow sedge]

every time u claim ur ship. u lose the cargo

[astral mortar]

I can’t find the halo

Where is it

[shy crane]

ok....so I need to find a ride....lol

[hollow sedge]

google it

google has diagrams of it and everything

[astral mortar]

I am I’m bouncing place to place

[lean oyster]

Already own a prospector with aUEC, but thinking of buying a Mole with pledge money... Talk me out of it? Lol.

[shy crane]

do you plan on multi-crewing with friends a lot?

[astral mortar]

What ores should I look for in a prospector I’m in the halo rn

[glacial dagger]

Quant

Maybe Borase

[glacial dagger]

Resource Cutoff Unit Value
Quantainium 1.90% 88.00
Bexalite 1.90% 40.5
Taranite 2.40% 32.52
Borase 2.40% 32.44
Laranite 2.80% 30.25
Agricium 3.00% 26.88
Hephaestanite 2.40% 14.7
Titanium 9.50% 8.68
Diamond 14.30% 7.16
Gold 12.70% 6.25
Copper 13.70% 5.77
Beryl 18.10% 4.32
Tungsten 20.30% 3.99
Corundum 30.00% 2.65
Quartz 53.20% 1.51
Aluminum 64.50% 1.27
Inert Material 0.02

[fiery cosmos]

I pledged for it. I SoloMolo all the time. You don't need a crew. It can make things easier but not a deal breaker. Nothing feels better than being able to bring back 50+ quant in 1 load. My best is 82 so far.

[marble crater]

Best talk me out of it speech I've ever seen lol

[fiery cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-flirty-james-franco-gif-9644828

[marble crater]

Also...Mole is awesome

[astral mortar]

Is the halo a good place im a few days new

[lean oyster]

Ya I've got a group of friends I've been playing with a lot. I think it would be valuable here

[lean oyster]

This is basically my thought. I found 2x 40%+ quant rocks next to each other in the halo the other night and it made me really really sad to only have Prospector.

[lean oyster]

Lolol it's fine. If nobody talks me out of it Yolo. Means a good buy 😅.

[fiery cosmos]

That is exactly what led me to getting the MOLE as well. No more, "leaving money on the table".

[gentle roost]

what can the MSR do commerce-wise that actually turns a profit?

[lean oyster]

I also wonder how much time I lose solo mining when I find like a 30% rock and have to nitpick break and make sure I suck up in the right order, rather than just vacuuming it all without caring

[fiery cosmos]

I always say "I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it".

[lean oyster]

Haha with aUEC I don't mind that, but this would be my first pledge ship bigger than a Titan. I just think with a wipe having a mole right off the bat gets me back into a reasonable fleet the fastest as well.

[fiery cosmos]

That's another reason I did it. having it on wipe.

[marble crater]

Move Quant lol

[fiery cosmos]

Buy as much Laranite as you can, fill out the rest of the storage with Titanium, Diamond or Gold ect. Sell on planet. Rinse and Repeat. You're probably looking at 35-50k max profit with the low storage capacity. If you wanted to jump around to a bunch of different places before finally selling you may be able to slightly increase that profit margin.

[tired sapphire]

When you're bringing quant back and it says "losing satiability", does that mean it just explodes soon or do you lose it overtime too?

[fiery cosmos]

Quantanium has a 15min timer that starts the moment the first bit enters your storage. It slowly loses stability until "BOOM".

[tired sapphire]

Oh alright

so you dont lose it over time?

[fiery cosmos]

No

[tired sapphire]

alroght

alright*

also

[fiery cosmos]

You will lose some through the refining process though.

[tired sapphire]

is there a limit to how long you can keep your orders after they're done refining?

[fiery cosmos]

Not that I have experienced

[tired sapphire]

alright

[fiery cosmos]

Although, when 3.17 releases, all your refinery orders may get wiped

[lean oyster]

yea gg on any patch

[tired sapphire]

hold up wtf

[obtuse sand]

are they gonna wipe ships and aUEC when 3.17 comes out?

[tired sapphire]

I dont see quant on here and I literally just mined quant

not a single quantanium

wtf

[hollow sedge]

@thorny ginkgo Wassup g, i saw you before ig do you do sometimes cm cause you have some nice ships

[lean oyster]

did it blow? Or did u eject it?

[tired sapphire]

no and no

[fiery cosmos]

Most reports say no wipe of money, ships or inventory.

[tired sapphire]

I mean

basically

it did say the satiability thing

and so

[fiery cosmos]

Bug

[tired sapphire]

when I landed, I still had 5 minutes until it blew up

but

[lean oyster]

When u left it on the pad did u store it or leave it sitting there?

[tired sapphire]

I did hear a small explosion and it looked like a piece of my ship flew off

however

[thorny ginkgo]

Huh lol

[tired sapphire]

my ship was still alive

[lean oyster]

ive never experienced this bug if so

[tired sapphire]

I left, but I still had 5 minutes left

[fiery cosmos]

I have

[tired sapphire]

what about this though

god damnit

[lean oyster]

hmmm i ALWAYS store it, to stop the timer

[tired sapphire]

that's what I meant

[fiery cosmos]

Always store ship

[tired sapphire]

that's what I did.

[fiery cosmos]

Charge it to the game

[tired sapphire]

ima just go

cry

[lean oyster]

sounds like it might have gone boom 😕

In all honesty tho, ive yet to blow a load of quant, so im not sure if the ship survives or ur remanining cargo

[tired sapphire]

2 hours drained

[tired sapphire]

oh yeah may someone answer this?

does the ship explode?

[fiery cosmos]

The ship certainly does not survive

[lean oyster]

lol

If u eject cargo does it only eject the quant?

[fiery cosmos]

No, it's all or nothing

[tired sapphire]

then why

I dont understand

I dont have a single quantum rock

[fiery cosmos]

@tired sapphire It should never be taking you 2hrs for a load of Quant

[lean oyster]

agreed. If it took u this long just chalk the loss up as part of the learning experience. Once u get good u can prob do 30 mins per run with near full quant (unless u run really bad on scans)

i still want to try and figure out what happened tho

[tired sapphire]

welp

I have no idea what happened.

ok wtf

no it says impounded

after I literally stored it

this game

I also just joined and didnt spawn in my bed

can someone tell me whats going on

[fiery cosmos]

It's an Alpha

Best thing you can do is move past it. I'm telling you this form a place of compassion.

[north oyster]

3.17 is FUBAR, not seeing that come to LIVE anytime soon. Refinery jobs are safe for now

[tired sapphire]

do work orders reset every update?

[glacial dagger]

Yh, I have been mining there since the refinary gameplay came in, it's been my fav go to spot

[north oyster]

Just about, but promise on a big update they will

For Aaron's Halo, check out Band 1, it's very small but plenty of Quan there

[tired sapphire]

whats band 1

[north oyster]

Have you been participating in the Issues Council and reporting issues like this?

[tired sapphire]

no

[north oyster]

The Halo has 8 Bands of various density and size. I will link an article by CornerStone

They really should pin this, it is a work of art

[north oyster]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/

I've prospected and scouted 7 or the 8 bands. My exploring has found that Band 5, while the highest density and largest band, does seem to have as much Quantainium. Plus I have found that the great the density of asteroids the more dud scans you will have.

Band 4 and 6 Are pretty good bands for quan. Band 7 seems ok with lots of targeted ore, but not as much quan. Band 2 was about same as Band 7. Band 1 is very low density asteroids however I have found lots of Quantainium and also that the asteroids scan a majority of the time (unless the server is really hosed).

[marble crater]

This whole band thing is quite interesting. I only mine on Lyria but it's cool to see

[north oyster]

One day we probably won't be able to QT through the Halo, but we will still be able to venture into it under regular impulse power to mine and explore

[tired sapphire]

also

one more question

are the engines supposed to be shooting sparks? This is a brand new one

[lean oyster]

no, means u damaged them

[tired sapphire]

how

its a brand new one

I claimed it

did the same last time

[north oyster]

don't worry about the visuals. In the PTU the 400i port engine is smoking continuously even though CIG said they fixed it. The engine effects are random sometimes

For the longest time I mined without the bags showing up on my Prospector. They were not visible but the ship functioned just fine. It wasn't until I did a character reset that the repairs showed up properly

[torpid hedge]

my last 2 deliveries of quantanium have failed due to server issues and bugs 😭

[marble crater]

Fly out of armistice zone before you Quantum jump. Helps to stop the falling out of ship bug @torpid hedge

[thin escarp]

got my mining op here in 30 minutes if anyone wants in

equal cuts for all

no ship or exp needed.

[fiery cosmos]

I've had the same thing happen to me. Exited to Main Menu. When I logged back in I was on the station and I didn't need to claim my ship. It was just there in storage like I never took it out.

[thin escarp]

@marble crater i always see you in here someday you'll mine with me

[marble crater]

hehe I figure it's better to let someone new to mining jump in and learn from the best. Will hit you up sometime though hopefully when playtimes align

[thin escarp]

i always got seats for new and old 🙂

[thin escarp]

i got a bunch of seats!

[lean oyster]

snap alt+f4 when this happens. I think every time ive done this everything im wearing/my ship are back at station

Never done it with a ship full of cargo tho 😕

[viral heath]

Le mole?

[thin escarp]

yep

[viral heath]

Next time..I'm like 500k towards my kitted prospector

Lol

[thin escarp]

I still got seats 😄

[viral heath]

And not in game currently

[thin escarp]

gotcha

[twilit ice]

How late are you gonna be on, Cross?

[thin escarp]

Pretty dang late.

usually 5-6 more hours

[astral mortar]

For the refinery what should I pick for processing

[thin escarp]

i always go arc l1

cause i mine on lyria

@twilit ice lemme know when u get on i'll get ya a seat

[astral mortar]

No for processing and selection

[thin escarp]

OH

i misread

i always use ferron exchange

fast and not that pricey

but dinyx solventation is the most cost effective

but

it takes forever

[astral mortar]

I choose dinyx I didn’t see your msg

Yeah I should of gone for ferron

But I’ll be mining more tomorrow anyway

[viral heath]

So 32 scu of quant ore approximately nets how much auec?

[sharp crag]

@thin escarp Hey I just started today but wouldnt mind tagging along for learning if you wouldnt mind

[cedar flower]

Hull A looks so cool
Cant wait for the other ships in class

[twilit ice]

I appreciate it!!

[viral heath]

just worried that hull series is taking maxlancer out of the picture

but can hull b use the small jumpgate?

[cedar flower]

I dont know

maybe when retracted

but not extended

then retracting would be a good way to fly shorter routes

so that a loaded Hull can only go a jumpgate size higher than a unloaded one

[thin escarp]

@viral heath270k

@sharp crag dm me

[viral heath]

so a maxlancer full load tops out at ~800K?

[cedar flower]

Idk

[sharp salmon]

whats the best starter pack for cargo and mining?

[lean nexus]

anyone down to hop in a call and help me figure out trading

[viral heath]

prospector and maxlancer

get the maxlancer starter pack if you pledging

[ashen trout]

Where can I find information on how to run cargo? It’s not the same thing as deliveries is it?

[viral heath]

no

thats trading

deliveries are courier

so far there are no cargo delivery missions

[thin escarp]

Were still going strong!

[sweet sparrow]

there is e. g. https://sc-trade.tools/home to find out where to buy and where to sell cargo

[sweet sparrow]

Prospector already got mining equipment when I buy it right?
Freelancer Max I need to buy mining equipment afterwards?

[viral heath]

no you use the freelancer max to grind for prospector

[coarse cape]

or transport refined ore from prospector

freelancer series is only transport

[viral heath]

i mean its easy to grind for a prospector

[coarse cape]

you cant mine with it lol

[viral heath]

frellancer max can do a variety of tasks until he made enough for the prospector

unless he wants to pledge $400

anyway.. who knows why my roc has a limp dick mining arm?

[sweet sparrow]

greycat ROC? pretty cheap comparing with the other options

[viral heath]

well with a freelancer max.. he can do roc mining

might have damaged it while inserting into the cutty?

good thing i sold what i had in the roc.. got a 30k

just that i lost the karnax rifle i looted

[deep vector]

Meanwhile me doing HRTS in fatlancer/freelancer

[gentle pollen]

setting my streamdeck up for SC for the first time in ages, have a hotkey for my mining consumables/modules but im not sure what i want the icon to be of (im making my own)

im thinking like, maybe just some sort of generic "tool" icon with a number attached? but that just doesnt feel like "enough" idk, any ideas would be appreciated

[deep vector]

Why 400? Both fatlancer and prospector?

[viral heath]

Yeah... Thought maxlancer as a solo pledge was sufficient

[deep vector]

When cargo will be less broken it’ll work better

[viral heath]

Well it's good enough for monitors bunkers and boxes

[deep vector]

For everything fps related my best choice is cutty red

Yesterday box being put inside retrieval spot broke both legs on two different characters

Good we were in cutty)

Damn I want Apollo

[brazen thistle]

speaking of cutty red, if you die and spawn in its bed, will you get basic helmet and suit as if you spawn in regular medic bed ?

[deep vector]

You don’t spawn on cutty red

They changed that

It’s only good for tier 3 injuries

Tier 2 is spawn point in case of beds

[brazen thistle]

whhaaat ? damn... i want to buy one bcs of that respawn point 😦 does any other ship have T2 bed so you can spawn in it ?

[sacred loom]

Carrack has its own medical bay =]

[brazen thistle]

heh, yea... but i meant something more affordable 😄

[floral ingot]

Can someone tell me why every small mining rock I find is under a bigger indestructible rock? I want to go Roc-mining and I have no money left because I am a new player and renting isn't cheap. Please help

[brazen thistle]

not much we can help here... just bad luck. you can try relog. in other server rocks might be generated better.

however there is always a chance you will find rock under the texture of other rock, or simply bugged rocks that you wont be able to mine.

[floral ingot]

I'll try relog because 20 unreachable rocks in a row can't be normal

[floral ingot]

Finally worked but now I can't sell that stuff 😂

[deep vector]

Nothing affordable. Apollo should be most affordable variant, if they don’t release it with tier3 beds before modules will work

[tired sapphire]

May someone help me with some quick percentages? I'm new to mining

I found two quantanium rocks

One of them is 4k mass and the other is a 3.8k mass

The 4k one has 10 percent quantanium and the 3.8k mass has 12 percent quantanium. Should I mine both and take the quantanium out of them?

[astral mortar]

I just blew myself up with a loaded prospector

Immm

[astral mortar]

Resource Cutoff Unit Value
Quantainium 1.90% 88.00
Bexalite 1.90% 40.5
Taranite 2.40% 32.52
Borase 2.40% 32.44
Laranite 2.80% 30.25
Agricium 3.00% 26.88
Hephaestanite 2.40% 14.7
Titanium 9.50% 8.68
Diamond 14.30% 7.16
Gold 12.70% 6.25
Copper 13.70% 5.77
Beryl 18.10% 4.32
Tungsten 20.30% 3.99
Corundum 30.00% 2.65
Quartz 53.20% 1.51
Aluminum 64.50% 1.27
Inert Material 0.02

[tired sapphire]

Yes but like what should I do with the thing I said below that

[potent tinsel]

i’m not sure what mining you’re doing, Lightvoid but if I was in my prospector in the halo I wouldn’t waste my time on either.

[tired sapphire]

Alright

One more question caps

[potent tinsel]

you’re gonna get a ton of waste for very small amounts of quant.

[tired sapphire]

I'm trying to mine this 5.5k mass rock

but it doesn't seem like anythings happening?

I'm using a lancet head but no modules.

[potent tinsel]

for me, i’d rather use my time searching for something better. but you have to start somewhere.
I don’t think you can crack that solo in a prospector. maybe will a surge module.

another reason I prefer halo

[tired sapphire]

damn

ok

do they sell surge modules at ARC?

[potent tinsel]

I don’t think they sell the surge but i’m also not sure that’s what you want. im not at my desktop so you’re kinda on your own here.

try searching on the erkul site.

[tired sapphire]

alright.

[potent tinsel]

https://starcitizen.tools/Surge

[tired sapphire]

holy sh

I finally just cracked the rock

lol

[tired sapphire]

Where's the best place to sell quantanium after it's refined?

[potent tinsel]

my usual is refine at Arc L1 and sell at TDD in area 18.

[thin escarp]

@tired sapphire I'd skip those

not worth it

@tired sapphire most of these questions are answered in my guide pinned in this channel

@floral ingot when u say unreachable

where you mining

@sweet sparrow you do need to upgrade the prospector once you buy it. see my guide for loadouts pinned in this channel

[tired sapphire]

Alright

Hold tf up

Wtf

@thin escarp @potent tinsel may you help with one quick thing?

Basically

[thin escarp]

hmm

[tired sapphire]

I was refining my stuff and I collected it onto the C2 Hercules

The thing is

[thin escarp]

@hollow sedge I don't mine in the halo. but I'm sure if you scroll someone has posted it in the last 24hrs

in this channel

[tired sapphire]

The words "C2 Hercules" were dim and gray. I then went up to retrieve my ship, and there's only two little boxes on here. Did something go wrong?

[thin escarp]

I only mine on lyria.

[tired sapphire]

there's the image

[thin escarp]

@tired sapphire visual big

[tired sapphire]

So I have more than this?

[thin escarp]

mine had 6 mil in it today and it was empty

[ashen trout]

@tired sapphire - I just collected my refined qt for the first time and I must have missed the detail about needing another ship to transport the refined qt to sell it. Luckily you can rent one in Arc L1, but just FYI

[thin escarp]

how much did u put in it

[tired sapphire]

Yeah I know

Ty though

[tired sapphire]

Around 3k

[thin escarp]

@tired sapphire well 3k in a c2 probably looks like that

that ship can hold 696000

[brazen thistle]

cargo is not physical, you can run thru it... so dont worry what it shows. its visual bug. many times happened to me thath my ship was empty visually... but cargo was there when i was selling.

[tired sapphire]

I don't know if it's 3k then

It was a full prospector load

[thin escarp]

I woulda totally waited for more runs but I feel ya

[tired sapphire]

Wym more runs

I thought you can only do one work order per run

@thin escarp

[tired sapphire]

Alright, hopefully

lol

[thin escarp]

@tired sapphire oh hell nW

naw

fill that shit

I take 6 million at a time

[tired sapphire]

You can put more than one work order per ship?

[brazen thistle]

just go mine, fill up multiple prospectors and have more work orders in refinery. once they are done, collect them all in that one ship and sell it all at once.

[thin escarp]

yes dude. otherwise big cargo ships are useless

[tired sapphire]

Ooooh

Damn I didn't know

Alright lol

Ty

[brazen thistle]

just hope you wong get killed or disconnected from server once you will fly to sell all that tasty quantunium 😄

[lofty trout]

between 12.6 mil -11 mil

[thin escarp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykDBXb9RajM

@hollow sedge

goes over scanning

[tired sapphire]

@thin escarp this is what I had on board

[thin escarp]

@tired sapphire stack those workorders up

[ashen trout]

What’s the recommended distance to stay when the qt is about to crack? I’ve had it crack twice now and the fragments have taken down my Prospector.

This one was beautiful - no overcharge at all, then my ship dropped a few meters and landed fine but no power

[thin escarp]

ferron exchange or dinxy solventation

this is all in my guide pinned in this channel

@ashen trout just get in optimal range

[astral mortar]

What’s the best way to mine with a prospector

[potent tinsel]

i prefer halo, others prefer planetary

[astral mortar]

I do halo

[lean oyster]

On planet? Prob want to be above it in some way so when it cracks the fragments don't land on you

[ashen trout]

Yeah at about 45* above it. I’ve watched a few videos to learn but maybe I got too close.

[cyan helm]

this sounds like you turned off your engines

[lean oyster]

This is also what happens to me if I crack a rock with some overcharge in it. Survive the small explosion but kills my engines and bricks my ship

[ancient basalt]

Where do you all recomend to mine quantanium

[ancient basalt]

Same

[gaunt fiber]

@ancient basalt seems like the best place to mine would by Lyria (the moon on ArcCorp). I typically look for grey mountains with a nice flat area near them. Search the flat area and look for two (or more) rocks near one another.

ARC L1 is the spot you’ll refine what you pick up. Good luck!

[twilit ice]

Do try to remember where the refinery’s QT spot is, cause you don’t wanna be searching when you’re under a time limit

[gaunt fiber]

Good advice. You can also store your ship if you want to buy yourself some time while you look for the refinery.

[lean oyster]

This is basically a must. Never skip this step

[haughty heart]

Best prospector load out?

[twilit ice]

Pinned comment has an amazing guide on laid outs

[haughty heart]

ty

[rocky plaza]

best way to surface mine? just bought and outfitted the mole. is it best to just cruise over the surface and scan, only stopping for clusters of quant?

[tired sapphire]

Is it possible for a prospector to crack a 6.8k quantanium rock without any modules?

I'm using a lancet head obviously

[rocky plaza]

not sure but i could meet you in my mole and help and collect any left over

[hollow sedge]

I dont know shit about mining

[tired sapphire]

It's 40 percent quantanium

[rocky plaza]

belt or surface mining?

[tired sapphire]

Surface

[rocky plaza]

and i have doubts. i use a helix head

[tired sapphire]

Hm

[rocky plaza]

before i switched i found a rocket i couldnt brake

[tired sapphire]

Not sure about that kind of stuff

[tired sapphire]

Is there a difference though?

[rocky plaza]

you can add me and we can mine in my mole. i will split the profits 50 50

i need to learn how to surface mine, is why i asked

[tired sapphire]

But like

[rocky plaza]

but i have a mole i just outfitted

[tired sapphire]

Oh ok

[rocky plaza]

im over by lyria. can bed log and add and join you

youll def have left over quant if its 6.8k mass. i can help you crack it and take whats left and leave it at that if you want

[tired sapphire]

If you want to

Sure

[obtuse sand]

how do you jettison volatile cargo?

[sour cairn]

alt j

[obtuse sand]

its not working

[sour cairn]

unless its control j

[ashen trout]

Yeah that’s what it seemed like but they were unresponsive. Oh well

[hard burrow]

Hi, i have a c2 and i am doing 90 k per run grom Arial to lorville with titanium and latanie. Antoine have better trasę route or strategy ? Pls help

[hollow sedge]

i think thats abt as good as it gets

i do that but in micro since i just run to the commons no train

[hard burrow]

I dont understand.how without train?

[hollow sedge]

u park outside the commons

youtube it. i cant explain this with words. u need a picture

at new babbage microtech. there is a door from the outside that goes right to the commons where the tdd is

[hard burrow]

What video name on YT i need to put

[obtuse sand]

is there a website for getting routes to the halo?

[north oyster]

This will show distances and also the Bands of Aaron's Halo

I would suggest Band 1 for mining Quantainium. Band 5 is the most dense and populated band but it also has the most dud scans. Band 4 and 6 are pretty good for quantainium also. But I'm camping Band 1 now, it is thinly populated but has lots of quan to scan.

with Band 1 it seems that I encounter way less dud scans than in the densely populated bands

[north oyster]

If you look how New Babbage is laid out, the round buildings near the frozen lake near the tram has a ramp that you can land your ship near and go directly into the Common's area. I would suggest going to the Commons and finding the garage/ramp area. This is an area you can land and run straight to the TDD to sell your wares.

[north oyster]

Also: You can not jettison the cargo if the Quantum Jump engine is running.

[north oyster]

No, you can't without surge and stampede. The lancet is actually one of the weakest laser heads out there and was never designed to be a primary laser. I see its meta role being removed some time in the next couple of patches. The Helix, while the most powerful has been totally hamstrung from Quantainium mining. The green zone is very small, the response to controls has a 40% delay lag and overall it is worthless for quantainium mining at this time. Couple of years ago it was the only laser head I used and you could do anything with it, but that effectiveness was totally removed by CIG.

[steel perch]

is there a reliable. and up to date.. site/market tool for trade and routes and profit/loop planners?? ive tried a few of the initial google result ones and they all seem super out of date or just inaccurate / wrong version?

[coarse cape]

Sc-tradetools is pretty nice

only downside is the price is taken from game files so it wont be exact

[steel perch]

ohh that make sense..

wait.. does that mean i can read/scan my local game files??? like, i could write a companion app or something to run agains the live local db?

[coarse cape]

idk

but the price is always changing depending on how much a commodity is bought/sold so any website wont be exact

[steel perch]

right, i assumed any site would be reading from an api live from the game servers

like eddb and all

[coarse cape]

yeah

i wouldnt bother too much about price

sc trade tools is pretty nice for finding the base price to setup routes tho

would also check out Jack Axton on youtube

[steel perch]

right, as long as the margins and buy/sell is semi accurate,m should be good

[coarse cape]

yeah

usually the price isnt that high from the base price

unless its titanium,laranite and agricium lol

[tropic totem]

so are the majority of lyria clusters only 5-10% rocks

[rancid barn]

That's all I've been finding today but generally I can find pairs and clusters with 25-45% rocks in them.

[north oyster]

all data access is based off of static information from the game files. Sites like SC Trade Tools pulls what CIG has opened to be data mined. However, it does not show any market changes. Jack Axton did a "Trade Refresher Course" that has a lot of current, valid information (it was 3.15 or 3.14 I think but still valid).

More is caught than taught with Trade. Scrap is good but has only a few places that buy scrap. With a C2 you can make about 40k aUEC per run. Titanium, Gold, Diamonds, etc are pretty good. Astitaine is also good.

Anything smaller than a C2 or CAT is almost a waste of time. Trade will get a fair amount of change as the cargo refactor happens later this year.

[rancid barn]

I just lost a full load of 100% Q due to a 30k error.

[steel perch]

similar issue.. i just rage quit for the day

[rancid barn]

First load of 100% Q I've ever hauled.

Wouldn't let me join the US server but I joined the EU server fine. This ought to be shit.

Just checked, it's completely gone. And yeah, i'm definitely not hauling my refined Q tonight. holy shit.

[viral heath]

made rookie mistake.. bought the prospector.. didnt buy the lancetet from tammny

lol

server is wonky..

[viral heath]

so what modules to get

2 surge 1 stampede?

[marble crater]

surge, stampede, brandt is a pretty popular setup

[viral heath]

well i got 10 stampede from hur l2

now heading to hur l5

so aaron halo or lyria for a noob quant guy?

[sacred loom]

Both are good lyria may have big rocks u cant crack. halo has unscannable rocks

[viral heath]

so once we equip the modules in vehicle load

we store extras in ship inv?

[mighty thunder]

that would be nice so you dont have to keep making trips back to one station to put mods on

[torpid cedar]

Hello I’m new at mining. And I’m trying to mine in the astroid belt. When I get out of my ship I can no longer see information about the rock in front of me. Is there a button I need to push? Or a specific helmets I need to wear?

[thin escarp]

wait

what

you mine those with a ship

prospector

[torpid cedar]

Yes

[thin escarp]

not the hand mining tool

[torpid cedar]

No hand mining

[thin escarp]

why are you getting out of your ship?

[torpid cedar]

When I’m hand mining how do I get information about the rocks.

[thin escarp]

use the multitool

but you can only mine the diamonds on the rocks there.

you should just go cave mining

way better

if ur gonna hand mine

[torpid cedar]

It’s more fun to do in space.

Lol.

But I use the mining tool and it will highlight the rock?

[thin escarp]

yes

[torpid cedar]

It’s not doing that for me.

[thin escarp]

might be ghost rock

[torpid cedar]

It shows up when I’m in the ship

[viral heath]

yeah.. asteroids arent hand mineable

[mighty thunder]

actually some do have gems on them you can hand mine

[viral heath]

you need at miinimum the prospector or mole mining ship

yah but if you w ant to mine hadanite..

[torpid cedar]

I have a prospector

[viral heath]

go to daymar or aberdeen

think the biggest rock the multitool can handle is 0.8?

[torpid cedar]

Ah I see so if I mine in space I have to find a rock on the astroid small enough to mine with the multitool?

[thin escarp]

@torpid cedar yes

they show up like lil diamond icons on it

[mighty thunder]

well that sucked 12 rock all ghosts

[marble crater]

that's a Cutting Tool attachment, you need the mining attachment

[slender oak]

orebit mining attachment

[viral heath]

the question now remains,,, how is he gonna take in the ore?

in zero g those will fly off

[thin escarp]

lmao

[deep vector]

Chase em

[viral heath]

all for a meagre lot of hadanite

[deep vector]

how to spot someone who never mined in a halo with ship

[viral heath]

i still a noob though.. only 3 weeks into the game

lol

[deep vector]

We all been there

I’m playing since late January

[viral heath]

yeah.. brain fart moment mining quant.. double hit surge... NAISE KABOOOM~~

on a 5k 48% quant rock

erhmm so stock 10 of surge, stampede and brandt on the refinery I used should be a good idea

[subtle cradle]

Man, mining Lyria and refining at ARC L1 is probably the best money I've ever made

[cyan helm]

Arc L1 also has a +0% return on refining Quant

[subtle cradle]

Ye

[cyan helm]

Mic-L1 has +2%.. Cru-L1 has +3%

but those percentages make little difference compared to time saved

[deft delta]

what is a good setup for my prospector

[sacred loom]

Lancet laser is the only laser u will need. Heaps of different modules for diff things

[obtuse sierra]

which is generally better, FLTR-L or Focus II for quant

[viral heath]

so aaron halo or lyria?

if arc l1... then i have to run modules there

[marble crater]

arc l1 is great, close to the Halo & Lyria with a short trip to sell at A18

[viral heath]

hmm where are my mining modules that i bought in lorville?

[marble crater]

you need to clear the inventory filter to get the modules to show

[viral heath]

oh ok

i get to it later

[pallid temple]

👏 Ship components are different to modules 👏

[deft delta]

if im starting quant mining, what modules should i grab

[obtuse sierra]

my modules are disappearing despite not being blown up >:^(

it's like whenever I claim the ship to move it from another station everything disappears

nvm that's intended

[viral heath]

surge brandt stampede?

[north oyster]

If you were transporting refined quantainium in a ship and the server 30k's, you should be able to get all your cargo and ship back fully intact. The things is that you do not claim your ship but rather you retrieve it like normal. You might have to wait about 10 minutes for the claim button to show. This is only for refined "cargo style" transport. If you are in the Prospector with raw in it, that doesn't work for you (I think). I have been 30K'd and just had to retrieve my ship but no raws in the hull.

[north oyster]

See the pinned message up at the top of this forum that Cross put up there. You will want the Lancet laserhead with the surge, stampede and Personal choice for third.

Since I mine in the Halo, I only use the stampede, so I equip two of them on the lancet.

[viral heath]

hmm still cannot find the 10 surge and 20 brandts

i bought

think i can try to wear a backpack and stuff the 20 brandts there

rip it came up

i double bought

ah well

had to hit the sort button

@north oysterso which refinery you go for in the aaron halo?

[pliant stump]

Anyone interested in mole mining operations?

[obtuse sierra]

aight whose idea was it to put jettison cargo right next to the exit seat button in the prospector

[viral heath]

thats why i use kb

cos sticky mousepad not good

can a prospector make it to orbit in hurstons?

[pliant stump]

I've gotta get some sleep, I may try some mole mining later today.

[marble crater]

i've left Orison in a Prospector so I think Hurston is fine 😆

[hasty belfry]

Sure

[void narwhal]

I`m in where we gonna meet ?

[hasty belfry]

Mining? ^

[void narwhal]

yea.

[hasty belfry]

You got a mining ship ?

[void narwhal]

thats all i red about and tryed yesterday.

nope

[hasty belfry]

Me neither

[viral heath]

its painful on the prospectors weak sauce thrusters

if i am doing the hur L! to arch L4 halo... which refinery to use? hur l1?

[north oyster]

I use CRU-L1 because it is the only refinery with a 3% Quantainium refinery bonus. That's an extra 8K aUEC to the bottomline for each full run. It adds up for me.

[north oyster]

Use the closes. I would also recommend finding Band 1 in the Halo.

[viral heath]

whats band 1 on cru l1 halo to arc l3?

thought people say for for band 4?

[silk ridge]

I usually go for Band 5/6

[viral heath]

band 5/6 is the middle of the band right?

[north oyster]

Band 5 is the most dense, you will get more dud scans there. 4 & 6 are good. Band 1 has been really good for me except when the dice gods of the game don't like me and all I see is 2% rocks. Band 1 is very low density so the scans work most all the time (still a few duds)

8 Bands in Aaron's Halo

[viral heath]

so band 1 is drop near the boundary?

12541000 to arc l5?

somewhere between 125410000 and 125440000

[north oyster]

Here's all the info you need.

[viral heath]

gonna give cru l1 a shot

[north oyster]

@thin escarp when you get a chance, ping @void narwhal , they're interested in the mining team you're running.

[viral heath]

so anywhere between 12941643 and 12662417 is fine right?

[silk ridge]

halo mining will be such a mess when they start orbiting planets. xD

[north oyster]

It is a very small band and it is also very lightly populated. But give it a shot

[north oyster]

I can't even ... LOL, there will be a new voodoo magic needed to find it then

[silk ridge]

Maybe someone will create real-time calculators for miners to find it. xD

[deft delta]

are therre any particularly good belts for quant

[north oyster]

I'm pretty sure the larger bodies and or the Legrange points might remain in a constant distance. Also, eventually we will not be able to QT into the Halo

[north oyster]

I have had fantastic luck with Band 1

[deft delta]

awesome

thanks

[north oyster]

Unless the dice gods of the server do not like you

[deft delta]

i've been in 5 today and its pretty average

[north oyster]

Band 5 has mainly just density going for it. Band 4 and 6 are decent return but more dud scans. Band 1 is lightly populated with asteroids but it seems to have a higher concentration of Quantainium

[silk ridge]

I'm usually somewhat lucky in the halo. The Lyria gods outright hate me. I never found a single rock I could break or one that would be worth breaking 😂

[deft delta]

ill head to 1

can i sleep in the halo to log out

[north oyster]

I just don't want to be bothered too much when mining. Whether NPCs or players, I always got hit up on the surface when I never get bothered in the Halo.

[silk ridge]

you can. I always bed-log in the halo.
Justmake sure you turn off your engines and don't move 2-3 minutes after login, to make sure no asteroids are spawning right infront of you.

[north oyster]

Yes, sometimes it is a mixed bag but I have always had good results. If the login delays, just let it time out and try again.

I normally just turn off the engines but leave the ship running.

Letter 'eye' " i " for turning off just engines

[deft delta]

also how od i eject cargo

[north oyster]

the Alt - J for jettison

[silk ridge]

I just wish you could get proper coffee in there after login. XD

[north oyster]

It will not work if you have no quantainium going critical nor if you have the quantum engine on

The animation for the coffee in 3.17 is rather scary. You won't be able to un-see it

[deft delta]

i just refined all my quant but my yellow light is flashing

[north oyster]

Stow your ship and look again. I doubt you have a duplicate bug, but you might. Then you'll have a bonus second load for free.

[deft delta]

my ships says cargo is empty

[north oyster]

Once you are sure it is clear, then don't worry about it or do the Alt- J for clearing out the cargo

[viral heath]

so once we dump the quant ore into the refinery.. we go back out and searh again right?

[silk ridge]

ya ^^

[deft delta]

i hate n type so much

[silk ridge]

Just make sure all refinery jobs are finished and sold before 3.17 gets released. Otherwise you'll most likely loose your work.

[deft delta]

why does n type even exist

[deep vector]

Same with 5

Density

[north oyster]

I just find I have way less dud scans in Band 1 than I do in any of the other bands. But of course, mileage varies for everyone's results.

[viral heath]

hmm think i go try lyria.. similar to roc mining right?

but larger rocks

[autumn cedar]

a lot larger

[viral heath]

similar method? goto om1 and dive down?

[silk ridge]

I think in the last month I've found one rock that was worth mining and actually crackable on Lyria. ... 5400(ish) ... took forever...

In the Halo you can at least be sure that you can crack every rock you find. ... without being pirated. xD

[viral heath]

ah well.. at least i have the option to mine now

time to grind bounties on crusader

lol

[sharp latch]

a moment of confusion. Came up to this cluster of roids to mine., and none in the cluster are allowing me to scan it.

can anyone chime in as to why?

[autumn cedar]

dud, rocks, happens often

[sharp latch]

copy that, just got into mining so wasnt sure...

[autumn cedar]

move on and find scannable

[sharp latch]

Roger that. o7

[deep vector]

As i said, if there’s duds for 5-10 minutes I’m bedloging

Server fubar

Doesn’t work with mining

Good server will give quant in 10 mins

[north oyster]

Even asteroids with icons can be what we call "duds" and will not scan. The issue has multiple factors, I have found the denser the asteroids in an area the more duds you will have. Scanning asteroids is 100% dependent upon the server health. Todd Papy who is the boss of the Persistent Universe said that the solution to this is server meshing. So we will have to deal with this for awhile before it goes away.

I have tend to have Way Less duds in Band 1 because of the lower density of the asteroids in that area. Grant it, you still get duds, but for me, they are been a lot fewer

[silk ridge]

I'll definitely try Band 1 when I'm home.

Had my tony short PTU-Visit yesterday and saw all I had to check. So more time today to crack some rocks.

[north oyster]

PTU is freaking brutal at the moment. Nothing is functional for most players. I gave up after a few tries. Only a serious update will bring this thing close to functional. CIG wasn't kidding when they said in the patch notes that it was "not for the faint of heart" LOL

I did take the Hull A out in Area Commander to test her a little. Nice little ship. I wonder how trade will change to make such a small ship profitable in trade.

[silk ridge]

I needed 17 restarts to get into the game, just to get stuck infront of non-spawning elevators 😂

BUT I was able to check of my usual gun/armor load out is still available.

[north oyster]

My favorite light armor set isn't (Lynx) so I hope they don't wipe the inventory aspect of the persistent game.

[silk ridge]

I invested 300K aUEC into my favorite rifle in PU. xD ... I really hope they don't wipe it. I'd be soooooo mad xD

[autumn cedar]

Q: I've picked a Covalex delivery mission for 45k UEC, the pickup spot is in a proccessing facility, I'm there now, but can't' see the hud markers for packages, also there are guards patrolling the sub-level, or are those hostiles? they're wearing heavy red armour.

[silk ridge]

There are 5-6 grey packages in the bunker. 3 of them are the packages you need. You have to pick them up and drop/place them to see the marker.

You should carry them fast to the elevator as soon as you have one, because these missions spawn hostiles which will shoot.

The ones with the red armor are guards. Make sure you don't shoot them.

The packages you need are recognizable by not being strapped down.

A common bug is that packages are stuck on you your hand. in this case go to a safe spot (elevator) and fiddle around with equipping your weapons and or mobi glass or pick another package up to get rid of the glitched box. You're not able to defend yourself if that happens.

I'd recommend to do this kind of mission in Microtech or Hurston areas, since the guards actually shoot hostiles and are good distinguishable from the hostiles.

ArcCorp guards are beyond stupid and look super similar to the hostiles, which makes shooting them by accident much easier @autumn cedar

that was longer than expected... hope it helps lol

[iron crane]

anyone wanna go mining on lyria

[autumn cedar]

Thanks for the detailed help. Before you typed this I did a bit of searching on SC reddit and found the info I needed. Just finished it. Some folks on reddit also said that sometimes due to server being wonky, the bad guys don't spawn. Which was the case in my mission. I did it around ArcCorp, btw.

good tips on the sticky boxes and area where to do such jobs, will keep it in mind

[marble crater]

a multi tool with tractor beam really speeds up finding the right boxes too. can just lift them up and the mission marker will pop up if it's the right one

[autumn cedar]

yeah one of the comments also mentioned that, didn't have one on me at the time, will have one on next such mission

[silk ridge]

Hostiles not spawning is literally RNG. I think they have certain intervals. I had runs with no hostiles bud had them spawn after I left, some with hostiles already there or (most dangerous) hostiles spawning right after picking up a package.

So always look at the NPCs ... if you see them running, get a gun out and hide xD

[iron crane]

anyone wanna go mining on lyria

[autumn cedar]

I did have a feeling some violence would be possible, given the mission description, so I had my weapon with me. I did bunker Merc missions before, so I wouldn't go searching a hiding spot, I'd go help the guards. 🙃

[silk ridge]

They usually spawn right behind you and start shooting from weird angles before you know where they are. So hiding is a good idea... at least until you know where they come from.

Well... and in ArcCorp areas you have no choice anyway. The Guards usually just stare at hostiles and rarely shoot. Most times they shoot the corpses. xD

[autumn cedar]

Thanks for the tip.

[north oyster]

ArcCorp could easily be the most buggy zone in the game. The missions and the Quantum jumps are always a gamble for destruction

[autumn cedar]

When I first started in SC towards the end of 2019, on a few occasions as I engaged the QD to go around ArcCorp, it slammed me directly into planet surface, and ship + cargo went poof.

[silk ridge]

I only went Quantum-Boom in Hurston ... but ArcCorp has buggy bunkers.

[north oyster]

Lately with QT around ArcCorp, the jump looses sync with the server. Pretty crazy and sort of nerve wracking. I now use Orbital Markers and jump straight lines until I can get a direct line on Area18. With the new patch we will not be able to leave our freighter at the space port and shuttle down to the city to sell our cargo. Sad

[autumn cedar]

oh too bad, I liked that option.

[north oyster]

I'm addicted to that option so I really hate to see the inventories separated

[autumn cedar]

and with that change we'll also not be able to insta claim the ship if it's parked on orbital and we're down on the planet, right?

[silk ridge]

correct :(

[north oyster]

3.17 has really neat changes that will help miners but also some that will change the whole face of active mining.

One huge change that seems small but will but have a surprising affect is the distance that icons appear on ping'd objects. That is now cut down from 5K meters to about 1,200 meters

you will have to use your ping much more to keep track of where objects are. Also as you approach asteroids to scan, you will need to be very keen of your speed. The scanning is still messed up, so that translate to stopping with just about every scan. Where as we had plenty of time to scan as we flew by the asteroid, now we will have only 20% of that time available.

I think the take away is that mining will take longer to achieve the same results. Not a huge amount of more time, but enough to notice.

Another nice thing is that we will now be able to move ship components and weapons we have purchased with our ships to another staiton. This will allow you to go get the QT engine upgrade for your Prospector with your cutty and not have to carry your Prospector to the only station that has that one QT engine you want.

[silk ridge]

Gonna get a few Atlas drives and ship them home xD

So far is did my shopping trips and then a character reset to ship everything home at once xD

doesn't work anymore due to the disconnected inventories in 3.17 :(

[north oyster]

too much risk of those being lost in the abyss. But now you don't have to do that any longer

[silk ridge]

xD

Just wish you could transfer items easier ... this inventory drag & drop is so terrible amd time consuming

[north oyster]

When I logged into my home (Area18) I had like 10 Crossfield QT engines in my local inventory, LOL

Loading on to ships for transport is still a bother. You have to be in the ship to pull the inventory to the ship's inventory

But ship management is now linked to the local inventory so make changes in the ship manager (as it always has been for the most part)

[coarse cape]

Yeah would be nice if we could like double click to quick transfer or selected multiple items to move at once

Real pain after I’ve done a bunker mission yo drag and drop everything from the bodies into my ship inventory

[silk ridge]

The only thing I loot in there is Weapon attachments. Rarely more. even after 3.17... I'm just too lazy to be bothered 😂 🤣

[iron crane]

anyone wanna go mining on lyria

[hollow sedge]

What is the 12SCU in the Vulture going to be used for? Does refined salvage just POOF into your cargo hold? I'm not sure what else you would carry in your cargo hold..

[pliant stump]

anyone want to join mining party?

[silk ridge]

It's to transport gear and modules

[stark loom]

whats the best refinery for quant?

[silk ridge]

CRU-L1 has a 3% bonus.

If that's worth it for you, is for you to decide.

I personally declared ARC-L1 to be my home.

[coarse cape]

I’m lazy as well but I like free armor lol

Took me like an hour to loot everything off the 890 missions

[silk ridge]

I love the Armor that's sold on Area18. Haven't seen good armor to loot yet. Most stuff is ugly 😂

[north oyster]

With the next build 3.17 all that will be cash in your hand

[coarse cape]

yes but I also like extra armor for when I do stupid stuff with a prospector

[north oyster]

I don't even carry a gun or rifle any longer, only a med gun. Heck I can probably get by with just a undersuit but I do wear a light armor

[coarse cape]

Yeah I usually just carry a multi tool and medgun

But sometimes I’ll have a gun with me if I want to do some fps missions/pictures

When I did cargo running I just used the free undersuit and helmet

[north oyster]

I have some nice armor that I really like, going back in 3.17 it seems that some of those will not be in the stores. I just don't want to wear my gear and then go do some stairs only to get killed and loose it all.

[foggy shale]

the only reason its safe in PTU is the elevators are broke

[coarse cape]

Yeah that’s why I don’t wear the sub armor and the event armors

Although 890 and bunker missions do bring in some nice armor

[north oyster]

3.17 is brutal and they are not putting out a build today. So it is still total no-go for now

[foggy shale]

yeah i wanted to test fly a c2 before i upgrade my connie

[coarse cape]

I’m not wave 1 or 2 so

[foggy shale]

supposedly they broke the elevators on purpose to test some type logging

[north oyster]

I suffered from infinite logging the whole time, so broken elevators wasn't one of my challenges. Though the few times I could log in the elevators at Area18 worked perfectly

You just couldn't summon your ship

Inventory was also hosed

Actually, I couldn't find anything that really worked on 3.17 the past month

[pliant stump]

Mole mining operations lf 2!

[thin escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/new-cool-juice-minecraft-the-gif-24805070

@north oyster

[north oyster]

Dang!! that's a monster Quan rock for sure

[thin escarp]

fr fr

[sharp venture]

nice

[haughty heart]

What’s the best load out for prospector quant mining, and where’s the best spot to mine? I’ve looked at the pins already, but haven’t really gotten a clear answer

[autumn cedar]

As for spot, two popular places are: the surface of Lyria moon at ArcCorp and the space mining in Aaron halo roid belt

I do it in the latter

[haughty heart]

Yeah, so i’ve heard, but I want to know which people prefer

And what about loadout ?

[autumn cedar]

There's no clear winner: some prefer surface, some space, you'll have to try it for yourself and see which one suits you better

[haughty heart]

Okay. Thanks

[autumn cedar]

I don't complicate with my loadout: Lancet mining head, and upgraded shields/quant drive. Some prospector operators also use modules for the mining head to improve their mining efforts.

[cosmic rose]

ok, anyone know where this information comes from. It it aggregrated or is it based on official documentation?

http://redmonstergaming.com/2021/12/20/star-citizen-mining-cheat-sheets/

[autumn cedar]

@haughty heart if you never visited Aaron halo, here's a good guide abou it https://cornerstonebase.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[topaz burrow]

Hi. I've never tried mining in this game and I've no idea how it works. Was thinking of renting a ships for solo mining and boost my cash to buy a ship. But i dont even know how to start with mining. Any relevant guides or words or wisdom?

[cosmic rose]

start with the hand tool, the mechanics are the same, but the hand tool only costs a few hundred credits

buy hand tool with mining attachment. Get a search mission which has you investigate a cave, and instead of, or in addition to searching for the missing person, mine what you find. Decide if you like.

[topaz burrow]

alright, that sounds ok. Guess bring heavy backpack? What do I do with mined stuff?

i read there are minerals and something that needs refining?

[cosmic rose]

Biggest backpack you can find. There is a 120 but it is heavy. For a while, I just put 3 backpacks in my ship.

refining is for the ship mining. You'll not need to worry about refining when you hand mine.

[topaz burrow]

perfect, thanks!

[cosmic rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im5r_HJbzW4

That is the video I watched first

ohh, and bring food and drink. Mining takes some time and I usually find myself getting thirsty near the end.

[tawny path]

anyone mining?

[topaz burrow]

Thanks for those. Will check it out the guide and give it a go

[tacit creek]

whats the biggest hauler i can rent to sell quant and where can i get it from

[tawny path]

the connie

[tacit creek]

where can i get it and how much

[tawny path]

any of the main planets

[hardy plank]

Does anyone know how to fix the issue of the mining laser not turning on? Along with it saying at an optimal distance no matter how far you are? Using the MISC Prospector

[gaunt fiber]

@hardy plank I have not had that problem, but I would suggest landing, then power on/off your ship

also verify the power is on for the laster (power > items)

[hardy plank]

Tried that

Tried that too lmao

[gaunt fiber]

oh man, sorry… are you by a good rock?

[hardy plank]

37 percent quantanium

[gaunt fiber]

mass?

[hardy plank]

5122

I already left it tho

I had another idea on how to fix the problem

[gaunt fiber]

oh I was going to offer to come help

try claiming a new copy of the ship

[hardy plank]

Heh. If this one doesn't work then I will keep that in mind

[north oyster]

Is the laser on the ship? Also, if you have changed your QT drive and shields, did you upgrade the power plant? The default on the Prospector can basically only drive the default items on the ship (give or take). I would also suggest removing the gimble and guns on the ship because they draw power also.

Reason I ask is that your issue isn't one I've seen on the forum so there is something you changed with your ship.

aka, this isn't a bug in the game

except on the ROC sometimes

[lofty trout]

@north oyster bought a C2 Hercules today! goal achieved. made 5.5 mil over the last two days, now the grind continues

and I just hope they dont do a wipe on this next patch release lol

[north oyster]

That's pure awesomeness!! Congrats on your success!

[tranquil maple]

best mining head to lower instability

answer fast

[thin escarp]

@tranquil maple lmao

lancet

see my guide pinned in this channel

[tranquil maple]

thanks babe

[pliant stump]

anyone for mole mining adventures?

[lean oyster]

i just had the most bizarre bug. Log in, spawn my mole and get in. Upon sitting in the cockpit i hear the unstable cargo alarm go off. So im like wtf, run back inside and store it.

Run to the refinery and somehow have 26 scu of quant on board. So i set it to refine and it works, and off i go. Free Quant. wtf lol

I know it wasnt from my last run because my last run was a sick 60 SCU haul before bed last night

[marble crater]

SC bugs giveth & taketh....but mainly taketh

[lean oyster]

oh they taketh plenty

im sure the universe is telling me its time for my hauler to spontaneosly combust mid flight on the way to sell the next batch

is this like a known bug tho?

seems like a dangerous zero day if its replicatable.

[marble crater]

nah that's a rare one. common one is falling out of the seat mid quantum

[lean oyster]

yea that happens a ton to me

im too lazy to get out of armistice usually

i wont be when hauling :-p

[tawny path]

what is a good haul roc mining?

[dreamy river]

Here’s a strange one maybe someone can help? I haven’t traded in ages but found a nice route and broke the herc out. Halfway through the game crashes while at an outpost. I’m down almost 400k at this point. I log in at my last station and the terminal says my ship is at the outpost. I have very little faith that it’s actually there but fly over anyway. Theres no ship but the terminal recognizes it and the cargo I had. I sold a little of the distilled spirits but that would take forever to sell all and I had some laranite as well. Any ideas on if I can get the ship back or am I out 400k?

[sacred loom]

If u have to claim it, I believe she will be gone

[dreamy river]

Yeah there’s no option to retrieve anywhere

[sacred loom]

u could try tinkering with your characters features etc and log into Eu server. See if it recognises as a retrieve

[sacred loom]

think like 230k is a ROC full of the good stuff

[coarse cape]

if youre in the same server then you can find her again but most likely shes gone

[thin escarp]

@dreamy river Ship is gone man

[deep vector]

It won’t

[sacred loom]

Fair, worked for me yesterday. Few mins for a shot at 400k back seems valid

[rancid barn]

Got a question for you experienced miners out there. Just mined a 5.8k 35% Q rock on MicroTech with several 100% Q sections. When I went to leave, every piece of cargo I have turned inert. Any idea what happened?

[deep vector]

Bug

Case closed

[rancid barn]

good enough.

It was a bug. I just went to the refinery to get rid of the load of junk and had 2300 Q on board...glad the jettison command didn't work!

[cyan helm]

way it works.. your ship's still there where you left it, in THAT instance of the server. If you can somehow manage to find your way back to that specific instance, perhaps through an anchor friend, you can fly back to the ship and continue. Otherwise you're only solution is to claim and take the hit. Once you claim tho, it's the final nail in that coffin

[frank lance]

Had that happen to me when I had a covalex box on board my Prospector. I had tried to use it as a beacon but it transformed all mining to inert when brought back inside. Couldn't mine/extract anymore. Refinery saw through the bug and allowed a normal yield.

[dreamy river]

Haha yea it’s gone. Oh well drop in the bucket. Will probably stay away from investing money in commodities for now tho!

[dreamy river]

It was a good thought but no dice

[north oyster]

There is 30K protection that works most of the time. A client crash isn't protected though

[dreamy river]

Yea I have had persistence with this stuff after 30k before. This was a client crash I guess.

I can just revisit the outpost every now and then and sell off a little bit lolz

[north oyster]

When ROC mining you have ZERO recourse from a crash. For Prospector mining, there is often a retrieval option. Trade is normally pretty good. I think the heartbeat check is every 5 minutes, but I could be wrong.

I wonder if the Discord forums will get split a little further when salvage, refueling and refinery options show up. Trade & Mining might grow too big with all of those topics.

[deep vector]

How?

[north oyster]

Which part is the How for?

[pliant stump]

so with refinement, if the refined load is too big to pick up you just can't?

[grizzled bone]

If your ship doesn't have the cargo capacity, you can't pick it up

You have to take all of it

Worst case you can always consider renting a cargo ship for it like I did back when I was saving up for a freelancer MAX

[pliant stump]

it seems like bc i didnt know what i was doing, i put too much in to refine and idk if any ship can pick it up

[grizzled bone]

Send a screenshot of it

[pliant stump]

xD ok

https://gyazo.com/7d2097b615b97ca0b1bdaa36d9a805ad

[grizzled bone]

Oh defo

Go rent a freelancer

Wait lemme check 2 things first

[pliant stump]

okay

[grizzled bone]

Yeah

Go rent a freelancer

Freelancer has 66 SCU capacity

So it has 6600 cSCU

[north oyster]

The MAX is the cheapest cost to SCU on the market. You have 120 SCU for little over 2M. Not a bad deal

[grizzled bone]

Yeah MAX is what I bought

But assuming you don't have 2mill just lying about

Baijini Point Cargo Deck
Everus Harbor Cargo Deck
Port Tressler Cargo Deck

go to one of those places and rent a freelancer for 34k

[north oyster]

When mining, you keep stacking then rent a cutty or FL to take it to market

[grizzled bone]

Though with the fact none of that's quant, I have no idea what your profit would be

[pliant stump]

yeah i just got back to the game and kinda been messing around

[north oyster]

Warning When the new patch goes live, any jobs in the Refinery will vanish.

[pliant stump]

When is that planned for?

[north oyster]

that is still weeks away, but keep it in mind

[pliant stump]

okay for sure, and is there a way to know if theres a wipe on that patch?

[north oyster]

Current patch is fubar and totally brutal condition

No wipe

[pliant stump]

okay

tyty!

[north oyster]

No Promises on anything, but that's the word

[north oyster]

Good work, I'm guessing you are using a rental Prospector?

If so, go for volume. Stack as many jobs as you can in the rental window. Don't waste time taking anything to market. Then once rental over, rent a freighter ship (cutty or FL) and start hauling all your labor to market.

I would suggest you mine the ore that is in the Yellow and Green, and not waste too much time on the lower yield ores.

Also you can chose Dinyx Solvention - cheapest high yield but takes days OR Ferron Exchange - little quicker, more expensive but high yield

[silk ridge]

I love Ferron Exchange. Dinyx Solvention is ok as long as PTU is in a state of Desaster .... as soon as it gets better use Ferron Exchange, so you have a chance to sell all your refinery jobs before the Patch.

[pliant stump]

ive been in a mole, just not enough hands for it currently lol.

and not the best lasers

[grizzled bone]

Ferron is my goto tbf

If you're mining quant and get a good load, you're paying like... 40k?

To make a 36 hour process take 7

Still pays 250k (210k minus the fee for refining) so

If I'm in a mood to grind mining I do ferron, if I'm just lazy-mining I do Dinyx if I'm not in a rush

[silk ridge]

I hope that I get 3 good loads today, so I can fill up my Aquila tomorrow.

[deep vector]

Less

[silk ridge]

wasn't it 5-6K if it's one (Prospector) load of Quant?

...for Ferron Exchange

[grizzled bone]

For the expensive but fast?

Pretty sure I’ve seen a 30k refining fee before

[deep vector]

Iirc it’s around 28k for prospector

[grizzled bone]

Yeah around there

Still, the fee isn't that big so if you're planning to do mining and selling in one day, Ferron is the goto

If you're just looking to spend a day lazily mining till you go to bed, might as well do Dinyx

[deep vector]

It’s not like you save A LOT

So I don’t bother

Ferron and next day after work load to sell

[silk ridge]

I'm 2 Prospector loads away from my Terrapin. I need it all refined yesterday. 😅

[deep vector]

Love my turtle

Also bought from mining

In 3.17 they fixed its door

So it’ll be bug free

🧡

[grizzled bone]

Yeah but it depends what I'm doing

If I'm going to bed, I'll usually do a Dinyx coz I don't need to spend extra to speed it up while Im not even there

Ferron is my goto for sure 90% of the time but if I know I'm not gonna be back on immediately I do Dinyx just for the cheap

[silk ridge]

I will get ot from the Pledge store too if it ever becomes available again outside this huge package. xD

Just need to grab another LTI token at some point. ... or buy it from someone with LTI xD

[deep vector]

Turtle?

[north oyster]

Ferron is normally about twice what Dinyx is as a rule of thumb

[deep vector]

Turtle I keep ingame, but Valkyrie I want to pledge

[north oyster]

by turtle probably means Terrapin

the quad hovers made great LTI's. I grabbed two of them just for that purpose

[silk ridge]

Ya. It's the ship that made me aware of SC, I love its design and it's an Exploratory ship, which fits my interests way into the future.

Well... until then its a tanky box-and bunker runner as well as stealthy troup-transport on org nights. (super hard to target with shields offline)

Great addition to my Aquila which is my main Cargo hauler atm. ^^

[deep vector]

Get Taurus)

[silk ridge]

Nah, I upgraded the Taurus to the Aquila.

• Better Cockpit
• Exploration focus
• Snub Fighter
• Rover

Mainly because of the cockpit tho. It's not alot better, but the difference is significant enough for me. ... And the Aquila holds exactly 3 Prospector loads, which is the max amount I'm comfortable hauling around at one time.

If I want to start trading, I might get the MAX or later Hull-B.

[deep vector]

i usually run 5 loads in taurus

i want aquila but later and not to change taurus

i have also fatlancer, hull A, raft etc

[silk ridge]

Initially I wanted the RAFT, but long term the Aquila offers me simply all the things I need.

I will get the RAFT ingame, but When it comes to Pledges, I want to plan long term with the most value gameplay wise.

[indigo wolf]

Just curious why do you want a terrapin what is it used for?