industrial-professions

[north oyster]

But I am waiting for better days to return with Ping being fixed as it relates to small deposits

No upgrades at this time, it is a complete package

[brazen thistle]

I enjoy ROC mining too... i find it relaxing to fly close to the surface 😄 i use cutty B to carry it around.

[dusty nimbus]

Yeah I mean I might just go back to doing cargo

Seems more profitable

Even though it takes a while I have enough capital to make it worth while

[north oyster]

With a C2 on hand, yes, Cargo is a better use of your time. Heck, even running scap brings in 30K and more with little risk

Then look at Titanium, diamonds, gold and a few other commodities. Don't mess with laranite except buy what you can and then backfill with other items.

[north oyster]

with scrap you can start with about 100K and build from there

[dusty nimbus]

I have like 1.2 mil I'm willing to put in

[north oyster]

Then you have a good base of funds to move forward. I would say try Titanium. Loveridge or humbolt are good spots. One has an endless supply of Gold the last time I checked

That's relatively short hops to Area18 TDD

Then you can fill with scrap from TDD and run it to ARC-L1

Rinse and Repeat

[dusty nimbus]

Thank u sir

I been doing medical supplies and stims

[main saddle]

I’ve been scouting for quant with an org and during my scouting, I’m detecting gems at really long distances. They sort of disappear at mid range, but pop back in if I get close. Weird bug, but flying straight towards the marker usually yields the gem cluster when in typical range.

[manic estuary]

what's the best ship for scouting / flying in atmo?

[hollow sedge]

banu defender is the best atmo ship

its also super cool

since its an alien ship 😄

[deep vector]

What you will suggest for biggest STEADY income hauling? I have from freelancer to Taurus and just want to run around 100scu ish at a time just vibin and making low effort money

[deep vector]

100 series

[north oyster]

Steady income will be easy, great income won't happen because in our current Trade model, it is Volume that counts.

I would suggest in small quantities looking a Laranite.

Laranite has a long history of being the macdaddy of trade but that era will never return.

After laranite, I would say try Titanium, gold and diamonds. Much smaller margin but manageable on a small scale operation.

This 3.15 Trade refresher course that Jack Axton did is still valid and he covers profit on multiple ships.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxTYWawbvM

[deep vector]

Larinite to get full fatlancer is long gone tbh

[north oyster]

But you can get some and then backfill with other ores

[manic estuary]

the 125a? I was thinking bout grabbing the 100s too because they can spawn on a mining facility pad

[manic estuary]

interesting, also don't have any alien ships as yet

[deep vector]

125/135

[sacred loom]

I got a 325A a while back. Nifty little ship

[main saddle]

They have really good fuel economy. I’ve scouted with my ION. It can go full speed on Lyria.

[sacred loom]

Dont they refuel for free if they on a planet?

there fuel just keeps gertting topped up

[main saddle]

Yeah 100 series has regenerative fuel scoops or some such.

[pallid temple]

The 100series ships are incredibly fuel efficient because of the specialised fuel intakes

[sacred loom]

Yeah the scoops, thats it

Legit man

Wixked mining scouts

[manic estuary]

135a is the slowest out of the 100 series, just has that extra cargo space, 125 is the fastest with 100i being in the middle

[sacred loom]

125 is a raca!

[manic estuary]

I've read that in some reddit assessments.. is that just cuz of QT drive or is that in atmo too?

nm, they all come with the expedition QT so it must be atmo flying

100i = 210m/s, 125a = 230m/s and 135c = 190m/s

[main saddle]

Those are SCM speeds right? What’s the full speed capability in atmo?

I know that depends on the atmo though

Let’s say Lyria 😅

[north oyster]

FYI: some of the "fuel scooping" might change drastically with 3.17. Just speculating but they are introducing Refueling 🙂

[main saddle]

Yeah 😅

Fuel get a nerf to encourage refueling. I could see it and would understand the need to do it, if they did.

Not all ships have fuel ports though, right? I know my ION has one.

[pallid temple]

Every ship has them, they're just not modelled on all

And yes, ships that aren't intended to have fuel scoops will lose them at 3.17

[main saddle]

I kind of enjoy the evolution that takes place in the game.

[dusty nimbus]

Same

Because the thing is if something is inconvenient then it usually adds depth and more things for players to do

[wintry mango]

Is there any good spots for ROC mining except for the piratehaunted peasoup moon? (Aberdeen)

[brazen thistle]

Aberdeen is great. Never had issues with pirates though... Just dont QT jump to any station or so... Fly at random place in middle of nowhere by regular thrusters from space... It will tak few minutes but no one will ever find you. 😅 other than that i tried Daymar... It was also ok.

[manic estuary]

what makes you say that? it doesn't nearly come close to the top speed of others, is there another factor impacting atmo flying?

[dusty nimbus]

Anyone know how to take out a ship to put in my star lifter

[north oyster]

Hadanite is depended upon how HOT the planet is. So Aria and Aberdeen are the two best. After that Daymar is an option

[wintry mango]

Tried aberdeen yesterday. Found 1 cluster which i couldnt mine due to bugged ROC. Went out again, found 1 roch in like 30 mins

All while being attacked 7 times by pirates

[north oyster]

that's the curse of ROC mining. The Scan/PING is fubar on it since 3.14.

I would recommend diving down from OM-1 to the surface. That way it is always daylight and no one else around

[wintry mango]

yeah

Its just that i also dislike the no-sight on the planet

Are Aria better?

[north oyster]

Try Daymar then

[twilit ice]

So I was reading that mining Quant in a rented Prospector isn't possible/advised due to the lack of upgrades. Does that still reign true?

[lilac patio]

Yea

[dusty nimbus]

How do I spawn in ships to load into my c2?

Like do I have to go to a station with the platinum bay?

[thin escarp]

@twilit ice don't renttt haha

[twilit ice]

i saw some recommending it, is it not viable?

[grizzled bone]

Yeah don't rent

Stock prospector is garbage and can't handle most quant rocks you'd find

and the ones it can aren't worth your time

[twilit ice]

So prolly keep grinding monitor missions until I can get, and upgrade, a prospector?

[thin escarp]

@twilit ice rental is borderline useless as a money maker

[grizzled bone]

Yeah

If you're decent at FPS shooting, some FPS PvE missions are good money

[twilit ice]

I haven’t looked into the missions much, as I was apprehensive about the current mechanics and if they were broken

[grizzled bone]

If you go somewhere like ArcCorp you can get "URGENT: Boarding Action in Progress"

[twilit ice]

I’ll keep an eye out for them!

[grizzled bone]

A) ArcCorp tends to spawn multiple monitor missions from what I've seen so good for chaining there

B) The 890j missions is just "board an 890j (spaceyacht) and kill 20 pirates"

Pays 45k a pop

[twilit ice]

Oooooh

[grizzled bone]

And it's good fun if you enjoy the PvE

[twilit ice]

Gonna give those a try! Thank you!

Plus it’ll give me a chance to get some more loot

[grizzled bone]

When I was grinding early money (I went for a gladius first coz its cheaper and Bounty hunting is meta-money maker atm) I would sit there and go between the 890, and doing monitors while waiting for another 890 mission to spawn

Oh also don't forget; You'll need 2 ships for mining

The prospector obviously, and another ship that can take cargo (since you have to take the refined ore to a planet to sell)

[twilit ice]

Oh true…

[grizzled bone]

Unless you sell the mined stuff raw at the refinery

But that's a 50% loss

[twilit ice]

What’s a good cargo ship 😅

[grizzled bone]

If you're not too bothered you can just rent something

Get a few workloads done at the refinery, rent a freelancer and use that to shuttle the goods to the sell-point

But obviously "have a few ready to sell" coz you don't want to rent a ship for a single sale

If you do want something, maybe a freelancer as the entry level

I bought a Freelancer MAX and it's pretty bueno as a cargo hauler

[twilit ice]

Time to start that grind

Gotta have the mindset for the grindset

[grizzled bone]

Also whoops said rent a prospector, meant freelancer

Best of luck mate

[twilit ice]

I was sitting here like.. wait wut

[twilit ice]

Thank you my dude! I appreciate how helpful most everyone is here

[grizzled bone]

c:

What ship you got atm?

[twilit ice]

Aurora MR, threw 2 more bullfrogs on it but other than that it is stock

[grizzled bone]

Ah fair play

I started with an Aurora myself

If you're just grinding monitors/890's like I used to, I'd maybe suggest renting a cutlass black

27k for a day (so do 2 monitors and you've made that back + 13k) and can do a fair bit more

Will do monitors way quicker (has more missiles to throw out and bigger guns), can easily take out the other AI cutlasses that spawn at the 890j missions (they spawn 2 hostile ships outside who are keeping watch but they're easy kills)

And it's got a pretty decent cargo bay. Not huge by any means but it'll comfortably take a ground vehicle like a ROC or two

So if you wanted, you could rent a cutlass and a ROC and try that out, since renting a ROC is feasible since you can't upgrade the ROC anyway

[twilit ice]

Ooh, interesting! Yeah that’s my main complaint with the Aurora is I’ll sit there unloading on the monitors dodging the AI’s missiles

[grizzled bone]

Yeah cutlass was my goto flyer

Only time I used my aurora was to go somewhere to rent another cutty XD

Plus if you decide to do delivery missions or whatever, actually having cargo space is nice

Instead of awkwardly shuffling around a single box taking all the aurora's walk-room

[twilit ice]

And possible blowing up…

[grizzled bone]

Yup

I usually had my dragonfly in the back of my cutlass just on the off chance I felt like zooming about

Sometimes I'd intentionally park a fair bit away from where I wanted to go just to go woosh on my hoverbike

[twilit ice]

I didn’t even know the dragonfly existed

Sick

[twilit ice]

Also haven’t looked much into ground mining. Is it just… land the ship, take out the miner, then load up and go home?

[grizzled bone]

Yeah man, good little bike. 2 seats which is nice, lets you take a friend

[twilit ice]

Omg I love it

[grizzled bone]

Basically

It's not the best moneymaker but it's good fun with a friend imo

It's also not the worst moneymaker

But since it relies on mining, it has the usual shortcoming

"Sometimes you'll find some stuff to mine immediately, and sometimes you'll find nothing for an hour"

Only difference is, a full ROC sells for like 150k I think? but that's multiple stops

Full prospector sells for 250k, but that can be achieved in one rock

So the ROC suffers from "when the going gets tough, boy does it get tough"

Oh also the dragonfly is quite reasonably priced at 275k aUEC

Good fun

[twilit ice]

Yeah I saw that! Looks like it would be fun for exploring some planets and stuff

[grizzled bone]

Yeah man, it's really nippy

[thin escarp]

@twilit ice I'll be on tonight I can show ya mining and get ya some paychecks coming.

[twilit ice]

Sick, I'll hopefully be off work by then! I'll let you know when I'm free

[thin escarp]

I still have 5 + hrs to go

[twilit ice]

lol cool, same here

[hollow sedge]

For those of you who do trading, whats your go to good to sell?

[brazen thistle]

Full ROC ~230k if you go only after good stuff. but takes quite a long time to fill it up. Compared to prospector mining. @twilit ice

[grizzled bone]

Ah thank you, didnt know the values myself

[oak spindle]

so i just bought a mole last night. i tried seeing what is in rocks, but i don't know how to in the mole. i did get lost in the mole...

[twilit ice]

Is it that big? Lol

[oak spindle]

I couldn't find the ladder...

Anyways, so the prospector I just turn on mining to see what's in a rock from the driver seat. How do I do that in a mole? I know it has three mining turrets, but I just want to know how to scan rocks in mole.

[ashen trout]

Hey y'all - I'm going to try mining for my first time, and I think renting a prospector is the best way? what is a good mineral to mine for, and where can I find it? (please recommend any YT tutorials if you know any)

[arctic blade]

yo! i found this to really help, i started yesterday in a prospector

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npwGK_SV_zY

[ashen trout]

wait - that is literally my question! thank you!

[stark loom]

Hey guys im new and maybe im dumb but i cave mined and now im trying to sell at the refinery. but the source dropdown in the console doesnt have any options. Am I not supposed to have them on my person?

[gaunt fiber]

@ashen trout Let me know if you want me to join in my prospector, I can help break some rocks with you if you need any help.

[thin escarp]

@oak spindle

https://youtu.be/xfgIp_ByeJc

this video

will give ya a tour of the mole and go over mining

I also have a pdf in this channel pinned. the guide has lots of loadouts tips tricks how toos and where toos

@stark loom cave mining doesn't need refined

you sell that on the moon at a mining facility

@ashen trout rental prospector is rough

your not really gonna make money

but least give you a sense of what to do.

I highly suggest going the roc route until

you can buy a prospector and change laser etc use modules

[stark loom]

which location is that?

[thin escarp]

there's a bunch

what moon did u cave mine on

[stark loom]

im at the green glade station

[ashen trout]

@thin escarp do you think it would be more beneficial to cave mine? I only have about 75k so I was hoping to make more profits than I get from doing salvage runs

[stark loom]

i mined on huston

[thin escarp]

that's not a station on planet you mined at @stark loom

hurston? or aberdeen

[stark loom]

hurston

[thin escarp]

you can go to the tdd on hurston and sell.

@ashen trout no cave mining is awful.

[stark loom]

tdd?

[thin escarp]

I suggest renting a roc and put it in a cutlass. and roc mining

@ashen trout

@stark loom the business district. in lorville.

[stark loom]

ahh ok thanks

[thin escarp]

@ashen trout what ship or ships do you have

[ashen trout]

just my starter 100i

[oak spindle]

thank you

[stark loom]

So i was able to sell 48 but the rest isnt letting me

[thin escarp]

@stark loom just wait 5 ish mins try again

@ashen trout you can do box delivery missions they start paying 45k after awhile

[stark loom]

also it only ler's me sell the hardanite and not the Aphorite or the weird fruits I found in a bunker

[grizzled bone]

Can't sell looted items till next update

Minerals like hadanite/laranite should be sellable to mining outposts

[cosmic rose]

Is there an advantage of driving a roc in a cave? You'll only be able to go so far and a lot of places will be inaccessable.

[tawny path]

3.17 is going to wave 1 so I would lighten your refinery a little bit

[shy crane]

where's the best/easiest place to buy upgrades for my Prospector?

[sacred loom]

http://finder.cornerstonebase.space/

Check this site for your loadout man

[orchid wharf]

What would be the best cargo route for the freelancer?

[hollow sedge]

you would honestly be better off doing bounties

if you needed to do cargo. i would stay away from the big cities as u dont have enough cargo to make it worth ur time. i would probably run distilled spirts in crusader

[orchid wharf]

alright

can the aurora do bounties well or will that end in tears

[hollow sedge]

astitine sells at hex of i remember correctly

u can buy that at tram and myers

[hollow sedge]

it can end well but you need to be good at combat

[orchid wharf]

ah okay

Is spice running worth the time?

[hollow sedge]

freelancer has much higher dps so just stick with that

like drugs?

no

it sells in quantities muh too small. you would like like 50k an hour maybe and most of it would just be sitting around. u can make much more frinding bounties

[orchid wharf]

how much could I rake in doing bounties?

[hollow sedge]

if you get good at them, you can peak out at 500k an hour

but im guessing you're a long way from that. you can easily make 100-250k an hour in ur freelancer by doing bounties in crusader

work ur way up to vhrts and just keep doing that

money printer 🤑

as u get better. u make more faster.

[pastel flame]

Once the targeting bug is ironed out we'll be reaching for 700k/hr again ^.^

[river siren]

what?

it is not awful

if the person has 75k then it is a good non combat way for making money, especially good if you dont have a powerful ship with good cargo space or guns.

[north oyster]

3.17 is going to changing Mining a good bit

[river siren]

Definitely good to get someone on their feet @thin escarp

[north oyster]

scanning and ping will be way different

[marble crater]

are the lasers getting reworked?

[north oyster]

I didn't get a chance to test that before it went Wave 1 because it was so rough

[river siren]

They are introducing mining gadgets.

[dusty nimbus]

Cheapest spot to purchase titanium?

[river siren]

apart from that then i dont know much about it

[north oyster]

It's a very rough patch. This is what they posted:
Late tonight we'll be opening up Star Citizen Alpha 3.17 to Wave 1 testers. We want to note that the build we are rolling out is quite unstable and suffers from a variety of performance related issues. We're going to put this one out regardless in an effort to capture/monitor needed data. In short, this build will not be for the faint of heart!

[marble crater]

yeah I know about the gadgets but was wondering if they were changing the core mining setup through a laser rework

[river siren]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

check this website out

[dusty nimbus]

I know about that pretty sure its outdated tho

[north oyster]

there is no "Live Ticker" for pricing. We can only find out when we get there

[river siren]

its not, it is updated to the latest patch

[dusty nimbus]

Oh ok thanks

[north oyster]

All the websites can only pull what data is open to be culled. The shifting trade prices are not accessible to any of us to mine yet

the changes on scanning and ping are pretty big. They are cutting down the distance that ping'd objects return an icon. That won't pop up until you are within 1200 meters

Scanning is botched still in 3.17

Or rather More So

[marble crater]

oh goody 😂

[north oyster]

it was odd, I'm not sure if still the case but the asteroids would show up purple and orange and sort of cycle between the colors. The rocks not showing an icon until right there really is a bigger than you'd think change. You have to watch how fast you are coming in because there isn't a display of distance until the icon appears.

[rose cove]

Were the devs like "You know... mining is too easy..."

We could fix some things... or better yet, break something.

[sacred loom]

well to be fair mining is pretty easy mode

But its nice and chill, thats half the fun

[rose cove]

People keep saying that. I find mining absolutely nerve-wrecking.

Make a small mistake for 1 second and either you start over, or you lose your ship.

[shy crane]

I like it.....but I have to admit when that warning signal goes off it gets your blood going.....lol

...for volatile cargo

[rose cove]

Oh. Well that is at least predictable.

Its the... I've been trying to crack this rock for 20 minutes and I'm about to just overheat it out of spite that makes me wonder why so many people describe it as relaxing.

Mining in Space Engineers is relaxing. Mining in NMS is relaxing. Mining in SC is a super fresh and cool mechanic, but is as relaxing as a bomb defusion game.

[sacred loom]

20 mins to crack a rock?

[rose cove]

Yes. I never said I'm good at it.

[sacred loom]

fair play man

[rose cove]

And thats running the Lancet and Vaux.

[sacred loom]

U mine in the Halo or on Lyria

Prospector, mole?

[rose cove]

Mostly Lyria

Prospector

[sacred loom]

can do awesome in the Halo with a prossy

nothing bigger than 5122

all ezy peezy

[rose cove]

Interesting. Never been there yet.

No belt mining?

[sacred loom]

Halo has been very profitable for me

ARC L1 to HUR L5 Drop Quantum 8.6

give that a go sometime if u feel like a try

[north oyster]

Band 1 is where you want to look for Quan

4 and 6 are also good

[rose cove]

lol this is like fishing hole spots

[north oyster]

yes

[sacred loom]

i just jump around in small stages all oveer the halo @north oyster

works well

jump to spot scan 5 mins, nothing, jump 100 and try again

[north oyster]

Band 5 has crazy density but not as much Quan

[sacred loom]

always find something in max 30 mins

[north oyster]

Band 1 has been like a candy store for me. Those sometimes the dice gods don't like me and all the percentages are low, but that could happen to anyone

[sacred loom]

if its 150k profit with minimal effort. I just crack n suck it up

all goes in the bank

[north oyster]

I stop for most everything over 12%

it's such a short hop

[sacred loom]

Oh I dont go that low

15-20%

[north oyster]

Turn around is pretty quick, so I will dip a little below 15%, but not much.

figure a 15% is normally about 130K aUEC rock

[sacred loom]

Thats about right

long as u get a few big uns it all works

[north oyster]

I have left them if the breaks are bad and scattered in all the sub rocks.

most of the time I get two good rocks

[sacred loom]

Thats where I prrefer Halo to Lyria

theres never shit piled ontop of eachother

[north oyster]

yeah, most of the time, clean breaks

[sacred loom]

but u do get the unscannables

so its same same really

[north oyster]

not all the time, not as bad but still there

[sacred loom]

also have to be prepared for big boy rocks on Lyria

[north oyster]

tru dat

[sacred loom]

cant say I have got double surge stampede down to a fine art

died a fair few times trying that

and succeeded 2x xD

[north oyster]

I use to pride myself on being able to break most any rock, but I just don't want to work that hard anymore, LOL

[sacred loom]

hopefully in 3.17 we can put a boomstick on the rock by hand then hit it with our laser and something cool happens?

Like.... It just falls apart

[rose cove]

Yes

[north oyster]

the attachment seems pretty neat, but I didn't really get a chance to flesh them out. I wonder how Wave 1 will work out on that

[rose cove]

Strap some profit margin to that rock and make life easier

[sacred loom]

Is ROC gona get any love Dan?

[north oyster]

They eventually will remove quan as the king rock, but that will require a more dynamic market setup

They say the scanning for gem deposits got a bump in distance

[rose cove]

I mean... I feel like if the market was organic, EVE style, the price would go down by itself.

[sacred loom]

I like ROC mining hopefully the scan has increased

[north oyster]

I just learned that last night and didn't get a chance to test it

[sacred loom]

is it 10km again?

instead of 1.2..

[north oyster]

LOL, NO

[sacred loom]

Bugger

[north oyster]

it's out to about 2k from where I hear. I wish I had written down what they other tester told me

it was almost 3k if I recall

[rose cove]

I mean you'll figure it out pretty quick when you go to do it.

[sacred loom]

how come when u scan Lyria from the sky u see piles of Gems but when on the ground in your ROC its super close?

[north oyster]

the scanning/ping is way different in 3.17 for everything. They fiddled with the returns and icons

[shy crane]

I'm using the charts/diagrams for the mining runs from Arc 1 ....not sure how they work. I set out from Arc ...watched the quantum drive numbers...dropped out....and not an asteroid in sight....

[sacred loom]

ARC L1 to HUR L5 Drop Quantum 8.6

try that 1 mate

[north oyster]

Which band and to what target?

[shy crane]

Arc to Hur

14466

[sacred loom]

thats 13 666 or so

u are not close enough

ARC L1 ?

[shy crane]

in the middle of nowhere now....have to recalibrate

[rose cove]

This will be fun when we have orbiting planets, moons. Finding the bands.

[sacred loom]

use your star map man

and just get in the halo

its easy to do

then small jumps around to get precise

[shy crane]

my little green icon shows me in a belt....nothing around me though

[sacred loom]

Just jump and leave star map open then drop when in Halo

[shy crane]

ok...I'll keep playing with it

[potent tinsel]

arc-l1 to Hur. i dropout around 14,500,000/14,400,00. Four runs last night got me about 11,000 quant in prospector.

[rose cove]

Nice

[potent tinsel]

but i don't mine anything under 25%

[sacred loom]

sounds about right

[rose cove]

A man must have standards

[sacred loom]

i scoop almost anything

0 standards

[potent tinsel]

if it was a slow night i would consider it

[rose cove]

Are we still talking about mining?

[sacred loom]

just load up a big hauler and fly it all to Area18

[potent tinsel]

but that allows me to keep looking and find those 35-45% rocks

[sacred loom]

depends on the time factor

[potent tinsel]

yes, halo mining

[rose cove]

You missed my joke entirely then

[sacred loom]

multiple small blobs can be quicker

[shy crane]

so to get this straight.....you leave from Arc -......whatch the numbers count down from 20mil....and at 14 mil you mash the button right?

[sacred loom]

j need to mash before 14

[potent tinsel]

lol gotcha

[sacred loom]

to end up at 14

[shy crane]

ok

[sacred loom]

14.2 perhaps

[potent tinsel]

i dropout when it gets to 14,500,000 so wherever that drops me is fine

[sacred loom]

Each to their own aye

theres piles of Quant in the Halo

in all the bands

[thin escarp]

I swear no matter what I do I always have 6 mil quant to deliver haha

[rose cove]

I mean, if you need help with that... 😆

I get excited if I have more than 1000.

[sacred loom]

@rose cove Are u in game now?

[rose cove]

Nope. Working. I'll be on this evening.

Joys of work-from-home

[sacred loom]

Ah bummer diff TZ, 3 am here. Was gona say we could head out for a mine now

[rose cove]

Good thought though.

[sacred loom]

SC is most fun with ppl I have found so far

[rose cove]

Def. Trying to recruit friends, but the ones who are willing don't have the PC to handle it!

[sacred loom]

Do u try a bit of combat to man?

[rose cove]

Oh yeah. I like to be a turret gunner, and I have a Connie Andromeda I'm trying to fit properly.

[sacred loom]

Does that have 2 S5 and 2 S4 weapons?

[rose cove]

Yes, depending on whether or not you gymbal two of them. Then it has two 2-gun size 2 turrets.

[shy crane]

well no joy on the mining....but I did manage to outrun a pirate after he brought me down to 0 shields....so I call that a win 🙂

[sacred loom]

The basic setup is fine for VHRT. I think its the same as my Connie Taurus. Need canons if u wana kill Hammer heads

U know u can adjust the shields power levels to Front/side/rear

[rose cove]

I did not.

[shy crane]

yeah but not easy to remember when you're in panic mode 😉

[sacred loom]

On Keyboard mouse its Numbad 8 forward shield 2 back 5 reset etc

[rose cove]

That makes sense.

[sacred loom]

u have to reset back to all even levels after a bit or u overheat

[rose cove]

I should just customize my Streamdeck for that.

[sacred loom]

can put a few clicks into forward shields and adjust your power management for more shield power when heading front into combat

Capacitor is so big doesnt matter for the guns'

just shred em and bounce shells on your S3 shields

[rose cove]

I've upgraded most of it's modules, though I'm surprised people don't publish more of their builds.

[sacred loom]

I just run mine stock into VHRT

Its such a tank and the gimballed repeaters are like 130 shots each or somethin

Anyway man. I better bail. Good hunting on your next venture

[shy crane]

found a belt....woot! any pirates out here to worry about?

[rose cove]

Sending some now

[potent tinsel]

nope

[shy crane]

nice little run there.....thanks all

[dusty nimbus]

If I hypothetically found a spot to fill a c2 with diamonds would that be better than filling it with titanium?

[thin escarp]

no

[dusty nimbus]

Titanium makes more money?

[north oyster]

NPC pirates don't even spawn in these areas

[north oyster]

you can run calculations from SC Trade Tools on the margin difference (in an ideal world, but it gives you a benchmark)

[dusty nimbus]

Yeah I found one thats actually more of a calculator so its really nice

[shy crane]

got my new Lancet installed.....any other upgrades to the Prospector that will help?

[potent tinsel]

cue debate; lots of opinions on "best" modules lol

[shy crane]

lol....haven't got into modules yet.....just thinking drives and coolers etc..

[potent tinsel]

ahh gotcha. i added an Atlas drive mainly cause i had one sitting in arc-l1 storage. i have read that removing weapons helps laser power but have no idea how true that is.

so...that's basically no help at all lol sorry

[shy crane]

all good....any info is good info

[potent tinsel]

i would be interested in any other ideas. you're only jumping from arc-l1 to halo and back. i can't imagine stock is lacking anything? someone told me you dont want a superfast qt drive cause it makes it harder to dropout mid-jump where you want to but again, idk if that's a problem.

[north oyster]

A little better QT engine would be good. You don't need the fastest but a fast one helps.

[gray crag]

Is it safe to start refining quant now? I’m afraid that 3.17 will come very soon!

[shy crane]

I've never been to Arc proper.....think I'll go there to find a new quantum drive

[woeful moss]

Very soon is very unlikely

[shy crane]

anyone know offhand where to go in Arc to upgrade components?

[dusky wave]

So are delivery missions worth doing? How much money do they give when leveled?

[ashen trout]

I'll add to this question - when do they increase? (level?)

[grizzled bone]

Press F1 to open mobiglass

Far right of the options is the like

Reputation thing

Find the company you're working with there and see what their deal is

[north oyster]

3.17 is a hot mess. Not seeing it go to LIVE for a couple of weeks.

[north oyster]

Dumpers is where you find ship components. CenterMass for ship weapons

[dusky wave]

it only has 2 levels and they don't say anything

[grizzled bone]

Couldn't tell you then

[dusky wave]

hm

[north oyster]

Reputation is still T0 or T1, has a ways to go

When trade and mining get reputation, then it might be more of a topic on this thread

[gray crag]

Will they gonna announce it before coming live? I started playing SC once 3.16 came out, so I don’t know how they work 😅

[lofty trout]

I was told to ask in here I might get a quicker answer. probably an obvious answer but I am extremely confused on which, does anyone know how to switch targeting modes in the prospector in mining mode? trying to switch it to targ so I can freelook around but I can't figure it out for the life of me

I know once you switch those modes its meant to allow you to be able to scan rocks and stuff without having to move your entire ship towards it but idk how

[north oyster]

they normally announce a few hours before it goes live. The rumors that it is ready for live start a week before it does go live (normally). I did trade for a whole week that I could've been mining last patch because I cleared out all my refinery jobs too soon.

[north oyster]

I've never used that feature before, but a good idea. I saw it mentioned in a video but never took time to look it up.

[lofty trout]

yeahhh seems like it would be pretty useful but can't find the actual keybind for the life of me

guess ill just lug around my prospector for now

[north oyster]

I just fly in decoupled mode and scan as I fly by

[lofty trout]

sounds smart too. I just completed my first ever run for mining and got 30/32 quant for my prospector

got to the refinery desk with 3 minutes until critical, pretty good!

[north oyster]

You must've been on Lyria. I mine the Halo so I normally land and have the ship stowed before the first warning bell sounds. That alarm going off is bad on my nerves, so I plan out my runs to make the quick and timely. Not all the time, mind you, but most of the time. I have had my load of quantainium suddenly go critical coming out of a Quantum jump, totally blew me apart.

[north oyster]

that is an excellent way to enter the mining world

[torpid hedge]

I only mine on Lyria idk how you guys get so close to blowing your load I always get back at the first warning

[north oyster]

his first run ever, so it makes sense

[lofty trout]

nah I went from CRU L1 to ARC L3 and stopped with about 11 Mil left until I got there in the halo, did some research online before I bought a prospector, I had two astroids one was like 41% quant and the other was like 57 I think, off those breaks there was like 3 100% pure rocks from each astroid

maybe that is all my luck swallowed up and now ill get trash runs lol but it was pretty good for a first

[north oyster]

that's my normal haunt for mining. I hit Band 1 there and find pretty good rocks. Where did you stop at?

Plus you get the 3% bonus at CRU-L1, so that's a 250K aUEC run for sure

or more

[sick bloom]

Arc L1 to halo is my preferred route. If you have the VK00 drive then it’s a quick jump in to the halo, find a rock with 20-40% quantanium, mine, jump bake to arc l1 and you have plenty of time to store your ship

[lofty trout]

gonna start my second run now, so far I like the vibe of mining, tried doing trading but there is like so little money and grinding kill missions gets reptitive so this is a nice change

juggle this and bounties later on I presume

[sick bloom]

Agreed

I started on ROC mining and I enjoyed that for awhile but it quickly became a pain

[lofty trout]

ship mining definitely seems more fun from someone who hasnt done that, pretty great too cause like half the time your mining its pretty chill or relaxed so you can just watch youtube or something lmao

and a day from now ill be rich lol

[sick bloom]

ROC mining is great when your just starting out, especially to grind and get some of the cheaper bounty ships or like a cutty. But once you started going for ships that are 2 mil+, you need a better source of income

[north oyster]

I'm wishing for ROC mining to return to its pre- 3.14 days. I know 3.17 changes a number of things, so it will be interesting to see

[lofty trout]

i had money to blow so I just pledged for the prospector, best part now is that if there is a wipe at any time I immediately have a ship to make me tons for the future which is pretty awesome to know tbh

[sick bloom]

Thank god they said the next ship wiping most likely won’t be for a long long time

[lofty trout]

I only started playing in 3.15 and most of my time was bounties, I got a 3070 TI and 32 gigs of 3600 ram alongside a ryzen 7 after some upgrading I did recently

so now I can actually enjoy the game

not a lag fest

[lofty trout]

oh well thats good

[lofty trout]

I originally tried playing this game on a ryzen 3, 1660 super and 8 gigs of ram and you can imagine how that went LOL

star citizen might be one of my favorite games of all time now I love space games, just sucked to play

so with the new specs its extremely enjoyable

[north oyster]

Regular mining is going to see a few changes in how you ping/scan with 3.17, it's going to surprise a few folks

[lofty trout]

consider that a worse or better change? i dont keep up with dev stuff that well yet so idk

[sick bloom]

I play with a ryzen 5, 1660 super, and 16gb of ram and it’s fine for me. Lags at the beginning when I first load in but if I give it a min or two everything settles

[north oyster]

a change, not worst or better. Interesting change, surprised me when I was testing

Scan is still messed up in 3.17 atm

[lofty trout]

tbf back when I did play on that setup I was playing on all low settings thinking that would help, learned later that actually makes it worse lol

probably would've had a better experience if I did that but eh its the past now

[lofty trout]

you can play 3.17? wait is it out?

or you like beta testing or something

beta testing in an alpha game lol

you know what I mean

[sick bloom]

Play test universe

You have to be subscribed

[north oyster]

Wave 1 now

[thin escarp]

@lofty trout you did the right thing

getting the prospector

[lofty trout]

feels like it for sure. just did my second run and got 29 out of 32 worth of quant

[lofty trout]

ah okay

[sick bloom]

My tip is to use the ferron exchange for refining if you want max yield and are okay paying a bit more. A full prospector load on ferron refining is like 12 ish hours of time and costs like 12,000 aUEC. There are longer options for cheaper but honestly ferron seems the best

[lofty trout]

ive put both my orders in under one that starts with D so far

dysinx or something

[grizzled bone]

Imo there's 2 refinery methods worth a damn

[lofty trout]

its like a day wait time but

[grizzled bone]

Dinyx Solvention
Takes around 30hrs for a full prospector, but cheap as chips

[sick bloom]

Wait I might be thinking of the wrong one

[grizzled bone]

And "Pyrometric Chromalysis"

[lofty trout]

yeaahhh thats the one I do

[grizzled bone]

It's a scooch more expensive (around 30k for a full load) but

Finishes in like 7 hours

So you can actually start mining in the morning and sell before you go to bed

You lose a bit of profit paying the fee for speed but it's not that unreasonable

[lofty trout]

only problem with me switching my pledge to the prospector is im gonna have nothing to actually transport in once im done lol

[grizzled bone]

Rent something

[lofty trout]

I think at the refinery there was a cutlass black or something

yea

[grizzled bone]

You can rent a connie for like 70k

[lofty trout]

ill do that

[grizzled bone]

Just make sure you have a few work orders ready to go

[lofty trout]

at lorville right?

[grizzled bone]

So that way the 70k isn't that big a deal

Yeah

Or ArcCorp

[lofty trout]

yeah, so far I have two work orders going of about 30 SCU of quant each so far

[sick bloom]

Im transporting in my cutty to save so I can actually buy a Connie

[lofty trout]

and I only started mining for the first time ever a few hours ago

so noooot to bad

[grizzled bone]

Yeah it's pretty good

60ish SCU is like...

Over 500k

[lofty trout]

good lawd!

sounds great

maybe ill do that, just grind tonight then fly to lorville and get a big ol ship to transport

probably more worth it money wise

and time

[grizzled bone]

Yeah if you actually sink your teeth into mining for a day or so you can make some serious bank

[lofty trout]

you love to see it

nothin but quant

[trail stone]

so currently is it worth to min witha roc or should i save up to rent toe prospector

[grizzled bone]

Being realistic from a meta perspective; Nah ROC ain't it

But there's no harm in trying it out if you have no other mining alternatives/aren't into bounty hunting

[trail stone]

but what if its all we got

lol ok

[grizzled bone]

If memory serves, if you fill a ROC up with the best crystal, a full load sells for like 170k

But it'll take a while/some luck to fill it up with only the best crystal

You can also rent the ROC

Since you can't upgrade anything on the ROC anyway, renting it is actually a viable option for once

Renting a prospector is a bad idea don't do it

[quasi dragon]

it was over 200k i think

[grizzled bone]

I'm not too sure in all honesty I always forget XD

[quasi dragon]

yeah tbf roc mining isnt for moneu

[grizzled bone]

But realistically you're never gonna fill it with full best-rock

[quasi dragon]

i only do it every now and again because why not

[grizzled bone]

So 100-150k is more realistic if you actually just fill it up with whatever you find

[quasi dragon]

yeah thats true

[grizzled bone]

But yeah it's good fun with some friends

Mining in general is notably more enjoyable with a few friends

[quasi dragon]

1000000%

[grizzled bone]

ROC mining is good fun coz like

With a friend or two just get two ROC's in your vehicle

Then just go ripping about in the first knowing you have a spare if you blow it up

That or taking a few dragonfly's if you have the space for them in your ship alongside a ROC

[torpid hedge]

went mining for 4 hours found a cluster of 8 Quantanium rocks all with above 20 percent making good progess with my crew in our mole then the server crashes feels bad man

[gaunt fiber]

oh man, that sucks @torpid hedge

[torpid hedge]

we were mining nonstop it only took so long because we popped the cooling system and had to bring in a replacement mole and the worst part I was teaching these guys how to mine and I kept telling them that the rewards would be worth our time ughhhh they all said they hated mining after that

[gaunt fiber]

ahh that sucks… well, ya gotta have patience for the game…

[north oyster]

REFINING IS COMING I thinks me happy about that, I just hope CIG doesn't have an Odyssey Moment

[marble crater]

I wonder if they will change up station refining

[tired sapphire]

Any tips for finding quantanium on lyra? I've been trying to find at least one patch for a while now.

[pearl basin]

anybody wanna add me and come help crack a good rock its too hearty to crack solo with my prospector with the attachments i got on 7k mass 40+%quant

[willow jetty]

Anybody know how to dump your unwanted gems and minerals?

[native granite]

From what?

[willow jetty]

from my prospector

[lapis musk]

left alt + j

that will jettison all of your cargo tho

you can't pick and choose

[willow jetty]

I tried that it didn't work sadly

[lapis musk]

hmmm, maybe the key binding got reset

its called "jettison cargo" i think if you manually want to set it to something

[willow jetty]

Ok i'll take a peek

[simple lintel]

hello, what is the best mining head for Prospector? any suggestions? recommendations?

[willow jetty]

so it is binded to that but it doesn't work

[simple lintel]

is the most expensive mining head the best?

[willow jetty]

helix is good if your semi experienced with mining

[north oyster]

Jettisoning the cargo ONLY works when Quantainium has begun to go critical

[north oyster]

No, the Helix use to be meta because it was so powerful but CIG decrease a number of things (including the green zone) and they delayed response on the Helix by about 40% to make it more difficult to work volatile ore like Quantainium. That's when the Lancet went from supposedly being only a support laser to being THE laser for mining

[north oyster]

Also, Jettison will not work when the Quantum Jump engine is running (tidbit of info I found out the hard way)

[simple lintel]

thank you very much

what about modules? any recommendations?

Im very new to it all

[north oyster]

Modules really depend on where you mine. The most popular spot is Lyria where the rocks run larger than what the Prospector can easily mine by itself. Many use different combos but the Surge and Stampede are top for the larger rocks. If you mine in Aaron's Halo, then you only need Surge and you really don't need that.

[north oyster]

Welcome to mining and the Prospector is the Goose that lays the golden eggs because you can fund any asperation in SC with her.

Also, the Lancet is the only laser head (for now) that you need

[simple lintel]

many thanks, thank you very much for good info, all the best to YOU

is it good to ming in group?

or solo is just fine?

[north oyster]

Yes, that works great too. I mine solo mainly because I'm more of a lone wolf type

[twilit ice]

I'd mine solo cause the only time I play is 1AM and all my friends are asleep

[pulsar vessel]

yo i just found insane quantanium spawns on crusader, got full moles 3x in a row

[simple lintel]

is it safe, Im not any good with PvP

[north oyster]

once you get the skill and time mining, you will be able to clear 200K to 275K aUEC per trip

[simple lintel]

how long does one trip take ?

[north oyster]

How did you get out of atmosphere and to MIC-L1 in time?

[twilit ice]

asteroid clusters might be safer, cause you hop out of quantum manually so less likely for people to drop in

[north oyster]

it's like fishing, varies

[twilit ice]

He's a Hurt Mod, he's providing disinformation

[simple lintel]

any hints for a newbie on where to look or mnine?

[north oyster]

I'd suggest not asking this person

[pulsar vessel]

yea if you quantum to orison and stop about half way, you can go straight down and find huge clusters

[simple lintel]

so asteroids would be better for a newbie that cannot fly lol,

thank you Guys

good info

[north oyster]

Lyria is a great spot, I'm not sure what the best locations are.

I love to mine in the Halo

There is a paper by Cornerstone that lays out the Bands in the Halo

[simple lintel]

what are my chances to get blown out by a player over there?

[north oyster]

In Lyria or the Halo?

[simple lintel]

I do not know either lol

[fiery cosmos]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NudkPk-y-jdor33lZqL3BCq7jISjJQrn/view

[north oyster]

Lyria is the moon around ArcCorp, and has the best Quantainium of any of the planets

But there's always a chance you will be sniped by a marauder

NPC or real player

The Halo, there is about a Zero percent of being attacked

[simple lintel]

thank you

[simple lintel]

and where is Halo?

[north oyster]

It surrounds all of Stanton

[simple lintel]

oh, ok, thanks

as I said, Im pretty new

[north oyster]

If you base your mining out of CRU-L1, then you can find the Halo pretty quick by aiming for ARC-L3 and dropping out of the quantum jump when about 11.5M Km from ARC-L3

However, once you learn the Halo better, there are specific areas you will want to try to target for mining

[simple lintel]

thanks again

[north oyster]

Band 1 is very thinly populated but has a lot of Quantainium in it. You can hit it at 12,995,000 from ARC-L3

[simple lintel]

thank you, thank you very much

[twilit ice]

Truthfully the only channel I plan to regularly check

[north oyster]

Anytime. You can DM me if you have any questions that I can help with. Or tag me here. There are other excellent members in the forum that help with Trade and Mining

[simple lintel]

thank you, will do it for sure, Im also bringing my friend to the game, she is even more uncoordinated that I am hahaha, two newbies on one ship.... flying desaster.

[north oyster]

ProTip @simple lintel don't have any refinery jobs going when the game updates to the new 3.17 LIVE. This will be serveral weeks off, but keep a keen ear out for that happening. You will loose whatever is in the refinery

[simple lintel]

oh, and when will that happen?

very soon?

[north oyster]

No, weeks away

3.17 is full of bugs and is only in Wave 1 (Evocati, concierge, and subscribers)

[simple lintel]

I started some weeks ago, my friend just download the game yesterday. she havent play it yet

[north oyster]

have her use your referral code before she creates an account

You can find it when you log into the website account under settings

[simple lintel]

thank you, I already gave it to her, actually, it was your advice lol, thank you very much again.

[twilit ice]

@simple lintel you already have a prospector?

[north oyster]

One other thing- you will need a cargo ship to take your refined ore to market.

[simple lintel]

not yet but Im about to buy one ....wanted to rent but I heard its not a good idea

[twilit ice]

Nice! I’m still trying to grind for one

[north oyster]

One thing you two can do is meet up with @thin escarp and join his mining operation. He trains and pays. Only requirement is must be 18+ to join

[marble crater]

there's an asteroid field at Orison?

my mind is blown

[north oyster]

He was chiming back at me because I typed CRU-L1 instead of MIC-L1 when asking how he got out of the atmosphere of MT. Just being a troll

[simple lintel]

if mining with my friend, should I wait and grind to get the MOLE?

[pulsar vessel]

yea its insane for quantanium im surprised nobody has mentioned ity et

[twilit ice]

You’d have to hope your friend will be good at either mining the quant, or flying the ship

[north oyster]

that's up in the air, MOLE is great team work but two Prospectors working together would also be a good option

Also, remember this isn't really a full game, it is only a sandbox demo and we get to play while they develop it

[marble crater]

oh wouldn't telling people to mine at Grim Hex be better then lol

[twilit ice]

But damn if we don’t have fun

[north oyster]

LOL, tru dat

[simple lintel]

Im afraid two Prospectors are out of the question, my friend, she cannot fly for sure. Im planning to teach her how to mind starting hand mining, move on to ROC and then MOLE. is it a bad idea? we both are new. however, we are patient, time is not a problem, we are here for a long run.

[marble crater]

hand mine-ROC-Prospector is a great way to introduce mining to someone

[north oyster]

Not a bad idea, just be able to change plans as you learn more

[marble crater]

also learn how to cut down your prison sentence with hand mining 😆

[simple lintel]

we do that

[north oyster]

You can rent a ROC for about 4K and also rent a Cutlass Black for about 45K. That will give you some idea on how to use it. You will also need the Pembroke armor and the place to mine will be Aberdeen or Arial (if arial isn't still bugged).

[rancid egret]

Random question, can you sell distilled spirits at any citys trading terminal ?

o-o

[simple lintel]

yea, I have been to prison twice already and I havent done anything wrong

[north oyster]

The TDD or Admin? Yes, I think you can

Check SC Trade Tools to be sure

[rancid egret]

well either?

if i ported at tressler can i sell it at the admin office?

or would i ge tmore at a TDD

[simple lintel]

thanks, good tips, we will do tht

[thin escarp]

@simple lintel I def can show ya the way of mole mining

I run a massive op every saturday

[simple lintel]

that would be great! i would love to learn

Im online at about this time except for weekends

[thin escarp]

@simple lintel check out my mining guide pinned in this channel

[compact needle]

anyone with a mole that i can help out?

[simple lintel]

thank you very much, I have just watched the vidios. Very well made, very informative. Good stuff, thank you.

[sick bloom]

okay so how do i fill my cutty with refined quantanium

cause i collected it from the processor but when i go to take my cutty out from the MFD it says its got 0 cargo

[lofty trout]

love to see it 😩

[torpid hedge]

Fat stacks

[main saddle]

Baijini admin is a quick sale of spirits.

[lofty trout]

nothing but good runs tonight

[tawny path]

does anyone have a Caterpillar that I can see before i buy one?

[thin escarp]

@sick bloom that's a bug

it's on there

[tiny helm]

quantum from where

[thin escarp]

@simple lintel I'll be gettin on in a bit if ya wanna tag along

learn the most efficient mole mining

I average around 700-750k every 25-30 mins.

[viral heath]

whats the best entry level freighter for quant? looking to buy the prospector. My starter is 100i and i have bought a cutty using auec

looking to get the maxlancer or connie after the prospector

[simple lintel]

So sorry, not today, I have already left for work. I definitely want to do that. Learn from someone who knows the business in and out is a privilege. Thank you very much

[thin escarp]

my internet at my hotel has been useless

so i cant even mine 😛

@viral heath taurus is really good

freelancer max wouldnt be bad either.

[viral heath]

guess i will go with the max lancer

and then get a taurus when the mining gives me the cash for it

[dusty nimbus]

So roc mining vs roc ds mining what’s the difference and how much can I make doing that?

[brazen thistle]

ROC is for one person, you can operate mining arm from pilot seat. It has smaller cargo and generally its smaller so you can fit it in cuttlas black or freelancer... ROC DS is for 2 ppl, one drive other one is in mining arm and operate it. If you are alone, you would need to constantly switch seats. It also has little bit more powerful laser so you melt rocks faster. Also has much bigger cargo and its size is much bigger too so you need bigger, more expensive ships to carry it around. Personaly i would recomend basic ROC. If you wanna go with friend, take 2 basic ROCs. You can fit both in cuttlas for example. Full ROC of good stuff (hadenite or whatever is it called) is worth about 230k

[viral heath]

roc is less hassle

and you can just transfer the roc storage to the cutty

too bad we can't store hadanite in a box and use that cutty shipping space

or can we? taken from reddit a year ago

[quote]"When your ROC is IN your ship, go to the rear, select "OPEN", then select "CARGO BAY" and it will open a screen "EXTERNAL STORAGE". It should show the hadanite. Right-click it and select "Store all Commodities". After a couple of seconds you will find a small cargo box on the floor. That's it."[/quote]

[iron crane]

Would anyone be down later on to help me get good at mining, I don’t really understand it but I want to learn

I have a prospector

[brazen thistle]

This is not a thing anymore. You can open it and see gems but you would need to drag n drop them one by one.

[viral heath]

well we can use the internal space of the cutty as a backpack of sorts

and then free up the roc space

but its a lot of drag and drop

lol

[brazen thistle]

Yes, not worth it. It will be probably faster to fly away, sell what you have and fly back tbh.

[viral heath]

true

and look for the next hadanite node

lol

[brazen thistle]

But i hope this feature will be back eventually. Even if you had to buy\prepare boxes in advance. You know like, take a box, put it in your ROC, let it spit out all gems inside that box, take away full box...

[lament loom]

How do consumable prospector mining modules like the stampede work?

does it break after 5 uses, or can I "repair" them at a station without buying a new one?

[glacial dagger]

So Active modules, the ones that have charges, will be deleted once all their charges have been used up, meaning you will need to buy/apply a new module. This means its a good idea to buy a small stock of the mudules at once and just replace the spent one with a new one

[lament loom]

I see

Do they say how many uses they have?

[glacial dagger]

Should do, yh. If their brand new, have a look at Cornerstone, they can tell you how many charges a new module has

[lament loom]

no I mean uh, how many charges they have left

right, uh

How do I activate the module

[chilly tiger]

What music is best for halo mining? :/

[chilly tiger]

Alt + 1,2 or 3

[lament loom]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[chilly tiger]

Pog

[chilly tiger]

Lyria?

[lament loom]

yeah

oh god

[chilly tiger]

Lol

Welcome to sc surface mining

I do my mining in the belt~

[quasi dragon]

i do either band 1 or lyria

[viral heath]

time for a 2 hr session of roc mining

[iron crane]

Would anyone be down later on to help me get good at mining, I don’t really understand it but I want to learn

[fallen flint]

#looking-for-session will probably find someone there :)

[viral heath]

hmm if i looking to buy a prospector... upgrade the qt and power plant first?

other than mining laser

[fallen flint]

(i dont know i never played, im just trying to guide you xD)

[viral heath]

@iron crane what sort of mining? There are videos on youtube that explain the whole process.

[iron crane]

Quantinium mining

I tried earlier with my prospector but the thing blew up after I cut the rock

[viral heath]

youtube search red monster sc

can't really help you there as im still roc mining hadanite. lol still 1M shy of a fully kitted prospector

aberdeen or daymar for roc? I got the pembroke suit

[iron crane]

Fair enough

[viral heath]

rip its 1.3M shy

i have 1.18M currently lol

[potent tinsel]

i didnt need to upgrade my power plant and only upgraded my drive cause i had a spare in the station.

[viral heath]

qt drive is vital i know cos quant goes boom

[potent tinsel]

you have plenty of time to mine a rock, fill with quant and get back to arc-l1 from the halo from my experiences.

break all the pieces and figure out what you're gonna extract from. you'll have over ten minutes to get back and put your ship in storage

just save the extraction til the end so you're not alternating between mining and extracting

[viral heath]

ok so atlas is the main go qt drive then?

[analog field]

Anything sabaton!

[gleaming mirage]

lfg

[zinc tendon]

If you're still around later tonight then sign me up lol. Mining is the only thing I do on SC

[thin escarp]

@iron crane I have a guide pinned in this channel and I can send ya my vids.

I'd take ya but it's 7am I'm def goin back to bed

@viral heath

def just upgrade the qt and laser. add modules

[mossy fern]

is my game glitched or is the ROC-DS messed up? i can't get it to show the progress and be hitting the rock at the same time. ROC was fine but got an ROC-DS to play with a friend

[thin escarp]

everything else is kinda pointless

[viral heath]

hmm

thanks

atlas and lancetet

is what iam thinking of

[austere bough]

what should i upgrade my avenger titan to

im looking for a bigger ship and want to spend under $100 on the upgrade

mainly cargo

[potent tinsel]

freelancer max? is that the only ship with decent cargo in your price range?

[austere bough]

i'll check it out, is there any others that would be worth looking at

[thin escarp]

cargo kinda sus

[potent tinsel]

Constellation taurus is a little more than your price but more cargo

[austere bough]

i'll check them out

thanks

[thin escarp]

the other game looks are much more stable.

loops*

cargo is shared across all servers rn

so supply is very sus for stuff worth a damn

[potent tinsel]

personally i feel like id use taurus for more than just one thing while freemax i would really only use for cargo. others may disagree obvi.

[thin escarp]

@mossy fern roc kinda Buggy my man. try storing and unstoring.

[austere bough]

i'll check out some videos on them and see which would be a better investment

[thin escarp]

@zinc tendon you can roll with me later. I run some huge mining ops.

[potent tinsel]

cargo for trade runs is not the best choice. cargo if you're mining is fine.

[zinc tendon]

Sounds like a plan

[jagged veldt]

guys why trading consoles don't work at JT, property, orphanage? Every outpost without a landing pad

[mossy fern]

that fixed it thanks

[thin escarp]

@jagged veldt known bug

stick to places with pads for now

[jagged veldt]

oh ok

[thin escarp]

@lament loom any red and your gonna go boom

or rocks go boom

I got some solid loadouts to help ya pinned in my guide in this channel

filter really doesn't help or worth it imo

I'd rather get a lil more green zone or stability.

[lament loom]

Ah, thanks lmao

I usually have mining sorted

I just make mistakes every now and then

[north oyster]

Tom did anyone respond about mining? There are some pretty good videos available but nothing beats going out there and learning by the school of hard knocks. Don't mess with Quantainium right now. Just focus on learning the basics, the maybe focus on cracking rocks with good ore. I'll post a guide after this reply. You will also want to get the Lancet laser head for the Prospector. That's the best unit for now for the Quantainium you will eventually be mining.

Guide for ore values

The two columns is raw sell price and refined sell price

While learning, mine most everything Gold and higher

Dinyx Solvention is the method that is cheapest and gives best yield (at this time)

It just takes the longest. SO be aware that you can stack as many refinery jobs as you wish but when a new patch comes out, aka 3.17 going LIVE, then those jobs will get wiped if they are in the refinery during th eupgrade

You will need a cargo ship to take the refined ore to market (TDD). If you don't have one, you can rent a Cutlass Black. You can only load one job at a time in this size ship. The jobs can not be split

[north oyster]

My first upgrade from a Titan was the Cutlass Black. Totally changed the game for me. I see the cutty as the Swiss Army Knife of SC. Good at everything, Great at nothing

[austere bough]

i'll check it out, do you think i should rent it first to get a feel for it

[lapis musk]

That or ask in global chat if anyone can let you take theirs for a spin. It's very commonly owned.

[maiden mural]

Seems like it has insane hull now after the xenothreat mission too

[north oyster]

since you are looking at a CCU which involves real dollars, yes, I think renting would be a good way to meet the ship. You just can't do much with a rental. But overall, it's a big upgrade from the Titan in every way

[austere bough]

ok, i'll check it out

thanks for the advice

[tired sapphire]

How do I know what rocks are good in order to get a full prospector load (and how do I know how much a full prospector load is)?

[grizzled bone]

If you're mining on a moon (Lyria is best, around ArcCorp)

When you're zooming about the surface looking for rocks;
If it's a single rock: don't check it, 90% chance it's rubbish

You only want to check groups

If there's 2 rocks next to each other, check those

If there's a big cluseter (4+), check those

If it's just one rock sat on it's lonesome, ignore it

[lilac patio]

^i still fly low over small rocks on the way to check if it’s quantanium when I pass it

[compact needle]

In this video at 5:59 they were talking about ship tractor beams https://youtu.be/-ZoC9MlPFdg

Does that mean that we will be able to equipt it to a prospector and sort the quantanium rocks from the inert, quartz, and aluminum into separate piles to make mining easier and faster when it comes to extraction?

[rose cove]

Why would Trade Tool tell me to do this? The Orphanage can't take cargo...

I just started using this yeasterday and 6 out of the last 7 places I've been have no landing pad.

[rotund breach]

Not sure but laranite is generally a tough commodity to trade anyway.

[rose cove]

Aside from that, it could be anything and the issue remains.

Excluding the Vice category has helped, but sill most of it's recomendations involve buying or selling cargo at places that have a terminal but not a pad. It's driving me mad.

Also according to the tolls wiki, The Orphanage does not take anything but drugs. Which makes sense.

Which again makes me doubt this tool entirely.

[rotund breach]

Hmm. I was almost certain you could sell commodities at The Orphanage

It is a "no questions asked" terminal which means you can sell drugs.

I haven't been there for a long time though.

[rose cove]

Yeah it has a terminal, just no pad. So you have to have a backpack?

Not sure how it works with no pad.

[rotund breach]

The same way you can land at the surface entrance to New Cabbage and sell your cabbages.

[rose cove]

You can?

[rotund breach]

Mhmm!

It's a great way to make your runs more efficient, albeit riskier.

[rose cove]

It just looks like a steepish snowy slope there at the Commons.

[rotund breach]

I usually land at the bottom of the slope.

[rose cove]

But no I tried to buy from The Orphanage once, and my ship was not selectable.

And it's ass was almost touching the wall that the terminal was on.

[rotund breach]

Looks like there are a couple of issue council entries about it.

[rose cove]

Ah. Same thing at the Scrap Yard in Microtech. Did not recognize my ship, and the only pad is a vehicle pad.

[rotund breach]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-24573

Contribute if you're feeling froggy

[rose cove]

And I can't filter to exclude all outposts because many of them do have pads.

[rotund breach]

What are you flying? I can give you another route to try.

[rose cove]

Connie Androm.

lol are you a pirate?

Looks like I need my own list of Outposts with pads.

[rotund breach]

Only sometimes xD

[rose cove]

I think I can figure it out, I just have to check the documentation on the Outpost before I commit to going to it.

[rotund breach]

Okay. I guess I'll just say try focusing on short routes with medium value but almost always available (buy and sell) commodities.

For example, astatine from both of the mining outposts on Microtech can be bought at max ship volume and be sold at max ship volume in one transaction at New Babbage CBD

And in the rare circumstance that you can't purchase a full hold, you can just fill it with something else like Chlorine or Hydrogen that don't have the same margin.

[shy crane]

sooooo... I'm finding some bands are better than others on the Arc 1 to Hur route...is that just me or is that real?

[tired sapphire]

Aside from the cost, does it matter if I refine only quantanium or both quantanium and the rest?

[rotund breach]

Reference this chart again

You can create a relatively simple spreadsheet to determine whether or not refining is worth it, but if you only pick up stuff in the dark green section, refining will always be worth it.

[elder mauve]

So, I am relatively new to the game. I was wondering if I should get a Prospector. I almost have enough money to buy it. I would just need some advice on what to do.

[potent tinsel]

start with the guide pinned in this channel. skip over mole section and jump to prospector

[brazen thistle]

it is mentioned in the apps because it should work... and it used to work... but rn there is bug when without proper landing pad, terminals wont recognize your ship. Hopefully it will be again fixed soon.

[latent latch]

Im a little confused how trading works

anyone know a good guide to it?

[rose cove]

There are a couple ok YouTube videos. I don't think there's a perfect one. Someone should make one.

[potent tinsel]

i believe the general consensus is that trading is not in a good place atm

[ashen trout]

I just picked up a Prospector this morning - aside from the Lancet MH1, are there any other recommended upgrades?

[potent tinsel]

i swapped the drive to an atlas but only because i had an extra in storage. ive had mine a week and havent needed anything else? maybe some veterans have other ideas.

[ashen trout]

I had only flown the 100i before this... this thing is a giant potato.

[potent tinsel]

ive been told not to go too fast on your choice of drive because you are going to want to be able to drop out to specific bands in the halo (if thats your plan).

there is a timer if you mine quant cause it's volatile but its never been an issue going from halo to arc-l1. plenty of time.

[ashen trout]

yeah that is my plan, to stick around Lyria

My first couple minutes departing Area18 I got attacked and the only thing that beast could do was QT out of there

[potent tinsel]

oh planetary i have zero clue. i hear there are larger rocks planetary that you wont be able to solo in a prospector. i have plenty of success in the halo.

[fervent oriole]

Any new people that wanna tag a long with some ROC mining?

everything split evenly, we have the vehicles required for the job

a friend and myself are here to help out new people

[twilit ice]

Hm, I’m going to need to do 38 more 890 jump missions to buy that prospector…

[regal berry]

when quanta will be implemented. Will this chart still be relevant?

[rotund breach]

No clue!

I think the numbers will be different

The fact that refined minerals sell for more? Almost certainly

[hollow sedge]

Yo, does someone know a fix/bypass/better way to avoid this issue? https://streamable.com/slefrf

[brazen thistle]

Not necessary, with lancet you can do just fine. However if you add some modules it can make your life easier. I dont use them thought. Only one for faster scooping as time mattera once you collect first quant.

[brazen thistle]

Go close to the gem so laser is short as possible and scoop them slowly from side. Not all at once lol 😂

[hollow sedge]

often didnt make a diff

[brazen thistle]

This is known issue rn but this could reduce chances that gems will be orbiting that much. Worked for me.

[north oyster]

I also scoop from the outer edge only grabbing one or two at a time before proceeding. It does add time to the harvest but you don't have the issue of too many gems spinning around the collector

[hollow sedge]

need one of those

[ashen trout]

what about shields or guns? anything useful for better defense?

[zinc tendon]

Anyone know where else to buy models than stations? It's always insanely hard for me to target the modules in the glass cases and instead usually it'll just target the ones on top

[twilit ice]

Are they not available for purchase at kiosks/consoles

[brazen thistle]

this is up to you. by default it has distortion weapons that doesnt do dmg but will shut down enemy ship. but ship is brick and has only 2x s1 slot so... you better run than fight.

[zinc tendon]

Only place I've found em is the refinery shop areas and from what I can tell (only started playing again a few days ago) the kiosks sell clothes. With the mining heads and the modules you have to find the object on display

[foggy dew]

Anyone else thinking the new Expanse would be a neat hangar ship for an Odyssey?

If it fits...

[quasi dragon]

pretty sure the expanse it going to be pretty big

idk ive not watched its video or anything

[foggy dew]

I would think it'd be a little bigger than a Prospector but not a ton bigger

Seeing as it's the starting refinery ship with a 1 person crew

Will be interesting to find out as we get moar details

[lilac hedge]

I'm hoping that it's refining process is "fire and forget"

not everything needs a minigame

[fresh ivy]

I'm trying to figure out what the use case for the Expanse is

Do you take it alongside a couple of friends? If so, what are you doing while they're mining?

Do you... fly around mining zones offering to refine people's goods? How do you return them?

Do you... bring a Mole, an Expanse, and a cargo ship all out with three people, then leave the Expanse and cargo ship floating while you all run the Mole, and move the whole group around?

I have a hard time envisioning this gameplay loop

[foggy dew]

If the refining on the Expanse is pretty fast, I would think that someone could just offer refining as a service.

but yeah, if it's long like it is on stations.... ugh

[fresh ivy]

If you refine as a service, how do you give the finished goods to the person you refined for?

They're in a Prospector or whatever, those ships have no cargo space

I guess you could... buy the unrefined goods straight up from them? That sounds... unlikely

[foggy dew]

maybe they plan to use the escrow service they developed for refueling, but that'd still be pretty weird if there's no physical movement of the ore

unless they use the tractor beam or whatever

as a substitute for the fuel line

[fresh ivy]

Yeah, I don't know where the cargo exists after it's refined

unless ships like the prospector/mole get refitted to have cargo space equal to their mining capacity

[foggy dew]

assuming the inert materials are just ejected into space, then it could just go back to the mining ship's cargo "hold" if they updated ships like the Prospector to have access to the cargo somehow.

[fresh ivy]

yeah, that's the part that's missing I think

[foggy dew]

they have those saddle bags, they're just inaccessible atm

[fresh ivy]

My understanding was those saddle bags were where the mined ore lived, until it was sent to processing

[foggy dew]

they use the same saddle bags on the Expanse I think so maybe there's a way to transfer them from one ship to another via tractor beam? i dunno

[fresh ivy]

yeah

i guess you could have the concept of "dedicated cargo space"

where you give 32scu of cargo to a prospector and i guess 96 to a mole that can only be used to store ores?

[foggy dew]

they'd have to make it possble to use the saddle bags to also carry the refined materials. You can't do that atm.

[fresh ivy]

yeah

That would get a lot closer, and I guess carves out a use case

I could see a version where you have automated refining that you can just let go, and then maybe a manual mini-game version that's MUCH faster

[foggy dew]

hopefully the refining is pretty quick though.

[fresh ivy]

yeah it kind of needs to be faster than going to a station

[foggy dew]

that'd be the only kind of minigame i could envision, where you have to make some manual adjustments to speed up the process

kinda how the gadgets you can manually make adjustments to make mining easier

[fresh ivy]

yeah

[foggy dew]

it would favor a fairly simple loop like that, hopefully they give more details Soon(tm)

[fresh ivy]

I love the design of the ship

I just want a reason to use it

(I hope more ships get the updated MISC visual treatment)

[foggy dew]

This probably one of those "It'll be useful in Pyro" type ships

[tawny path]

Anyone mining? I don’t have any money to front my own mining. I’ll scout and help though until I get enough to do my own

[tired sapphire]

How do you find how much money you're going to get out of a rock? Mass x Percentage?

[foggy dew]

i mean it'd be marginally useful in Stanton if it's very fast and you can churn out refined materials really quick when teamed with a miner

the refinement process you choose also affects the yield, so there's more to it than mass x percentage

i can't think of a good formula for that off the top of my head

[twilit ice]

I do gotta wonder, if in Pyro, it'll come with a playcount increase? Cause I'd worry with 50 people, the rest of the server would be kinda dead if a MISC, Moles, scouts, etc were all mining

[foggy dew]

Pyro won't come until server meshing is in, in which case yeah you'd see a huge player count increase

[grizzled bone]

You can probably do some funky maths to figure it out but realistically that's confusing and I couldn't tell you

but

[twilit ice]

Interesting!

[grizzled bone]

32 SCU (the total storage of a prospector) is equal to 3200 quantanium

1scu = 100

[twilit ice]

Pardon the dumb question... What is server meshing?

[grizzled bone]

The price of refined quantanium is 88 aUEC per

So 1scu of refined quant would be 8800 aUEC

[foggy dew]

it's basically how they're going to in essense "merge" what is currently a bunch of 50 player instances into a singular environment

[grizzled bone]

Looking at that picture I showed you earlier you can figure out an approximate on how much it's gonna fill up your prospector (50%, 90%, whatever)

[twilit ice]

Interesting

[grizzled bone]

Then just do the maths on that

[tired sapphire]

well

[foggy dew]

time to fire up that Excel spreadsheet, LightVoid

[grizzled bone]

Plus there's also the fee of refining

And the fact it doesn't refine everything (a little is always lost)

[tired sapphire]

I had like a 3k something mass rock and only 37% of it was Quantanium

the rest was quartz or whatever it is

[twilit ice]

The real meta game is when you have 15 spreadsheets

[foggy dew]

37% is pretty good

[tired sapphire]

out of 3000?

well 3.2k

idk

[grizzled bone]

I'd say like

[foggy dew]

37% Quantanium is pretty good regardless of the size of the rock i htink

[grizzled bone]

About 100k when sold

[foggy dew]

you won't see rocks that go much higher than that, I don't think

so you can expect to always get some trash

[tired sapphire]

alright

[grizzled bone]

It's funny coz this one time I actually did

[foggy dew]

some % is also inert materials which is literally trash

[grizzled bone]

I found a 7.8k rock with like 70% quant or some shit

And it was like "this is incredible but I cannot mine this."

[Cries in Prospector]

[twilit ice]

auction off coords to the highest bidder