industrial-professions

[woeful forum]

Will do

[teal iris]

I have 500k credits and am pretty new to SC

Could someone help teach me how to effectively do cargo/mining so i could get some solid money?

[tawny path]

do you have a prospector?

[teal iris]

Uhh whats that im very new sorry

[tawny path]

its a solo mining ship, it is the best payout for mining

hand mining and roc mining are good starter but the real money is made ship mining

[teal iris]

Could you link me a video on how to get started? And about how much will it all cost

[tawny path]

im in vc2

[elder kite]

Yoo can someone show me how to run cargo

[hasty belfry]

What ships do you have

[elder kite]

Cutlass black

[deep vector]

My experience with running cargo to profit on cutty black may be described by word: poorly

[elder kite]

What can I do to grind money

[deep vector]

Box missions, illegal monitors

Those are easy ones

VHRTs are demanding but doable

[elder kite]

Can you help me do 1

I flew for a min and landed back and that all I've done since I got this game

[hasty belfry]

With a C2 Hercules you can make anywhere from 80k to 100k profit

On microtech

[deep vector]

C2
starter cutty black and no experience
Bruh

[deep vector]

I’m at work. Start with box missions, from 3k you go to 8k and then for 45k a mission

Go to delivery in your missions

[elder kite]

Alright preciate it

[north oyster]

Hi Capone, Welcome to the 'Verse!!! It is a steep learning curve and is not really a game yet ... look at it as a sandbox demo. The Cutlass Black is a great ship. I call her the "Swiss Army Knife" of Star Citizen. She is good at everything, Great at nothing.

I would say, try Box missions first. That will get you out and about in the verse. They are a little buggy, but it is a start.

From there, Bounty Hunting might be a good way to go. For your cutty, you will want to replace the ballistic guns on her with matching laser repeaters. So, remove those GT-215 and put on two more CF-227 Badgers. You can find those at CRU-L5, Area18 or New Babbage.

They will cost about 6K aUEC each.

If you do the illegal monitor mission, it will pay 20K aUEC per mission. To do this, when arrive at the area, ping to find the illegal monitors (there are 3 of them). Do Not Shoot it yet, but get within 2k distance and a persistent pip will pop up on the monitor so that you can find it again. Find all 3 first. Then blow them up as fast as you can. You do not have to engage the ships that come when you start to blow them up. You will get paid 20k as you jump away from there.

Also, do not get too close to the satellite, it will fire missiles at you.

Finally, first thing when you log in, accept the Call to Arms mission. You can "untrack" it but that will give you an extra bonus for each baddie you splash.

[north oyster]

Also, this website will help with ship info
https://www.erkul.games/live/calculator

[pale verge]

Is the starlifter a good ship to buy if you want a ship to do large cargo runs?

[north oyster]

Yes, the C2 or M2 are both great ships

C2 is the king of cargo atm. The Hull C later this year will take that title away

Buy a HUGE margine

[pale verge]

Yeah i saw a picture of the hull C.

[north oyster]

The Hull A will be proof of concept that is coming in the next patch

[pale verge]

Cool

[north oyster]

Trade is going to go through MASSIVE changes this year with the cargo refactor. We will (I anticipate) see trading move to or ADD mission based core with reputation being corner stone.

[lean oyster]

When 3.17 drops we will lose refinery jobs right? If so, how much warning do we get before the patch? I've started doing the long jobs, but might temporarily switch back to quicker ones to prevent losing several loads

[quasi dragon]

yeah all jobs will be wiped

and you will usually know quite a bit in advance

[lean oyster]

That's helpful. I've only been here since 3.15 so haven't been through many patches. Just 3.16 and 3.16.1

As long as I have a few days

[north oyster]

I would suggest when the possibility of 3.17 going LIVE (which, I think, is still many weeks away), plan to clear your refinery jobs as they complete. Also do the Ferron method for shorter times. Once it got to "dang, gonna drop any moment" I switched over to trading and other options like ROC mining that didn't have the risk of loosing cash in a wipe. When just two refinery jobs can be worth over 500K aUEC, that is just too much on the table to be lazy about it.

[silent basin]

Are bugged ore deposits in the asteroid belts a common issue? I feel like 70% of the things I run accross I either can't scan or I get a RS Signature:XXXXX description.

[mighty gazelle]

Star citizen in its current state bugs and all is more of game than any other game I've ever played. Just my opinion though. But yeah trading isn't worth the time if your using anything smaller than a cat atm.

[brazen thistle]

Hey Guys, could you recommend upgrades for ROC to make it better and melt rocks faster ?

[teal iris]

is cargo at all worth before getting a C2 or caterpillar?

[mighty gazelle]

I can regularly get around 120k per run in a cat. What ship realistically like a max or taurus? Cat has 564 scu. Be dropping to 174 or 120 scu with either of those. Can make about 200k per hour running bounties so worth it not really in its current state for $

[glacial dagger]

Absolutely my dude. I have runs that can make me approx. 100k-120k per run. Each run takes about 15 mins and the only thing I actually have to pay for is fuel (dirt cheap rn anyway)

Just be careful on what your buying and that the location(s) your selling it to has enough stock capacity to buy it

[teal iris]

I only just learned mining and am looking to learn how to do cargo

I saw someone saying they rent a constellation andromeda and do cargo runs with that.

Is that viable @glacial dagger

[glacial dagger]

Viable, sure. It does depend on how much time your able to sink into it. I recommend learning/researching a potentially good route before hand, then rent it for a day and see how long you can stay at it, running the same/a few routes over and over again

[mighty gazelle]

@teal iris

[teal iris]

what are you using to find this info

[mighty gazelle]

What a full cargo hold of laranite in andromeda will profit

Uexcorp.space

Seems to stay a little more up to date on current in game prices and locations over sctradetools. Good for planning routes

[glacial dagger]

@teal iris Go careful with Laranite, dont go getting your hopes up that you will make all of that in a single run. Laranite is a very popular commodity rn, meaning there will be very little stock at almost any given time

I recommend getting as much Laranite as you can at a location, then filling t he rest of your cargo with something a little less valuable but can still make you money. I like Getting as much Laranite as possible in one go, then topping up with Titanium. If no Laranite, all Titanium

[teal iris]

is mining better?

[glacial dagger]

Yes and no

Yes because it's pretty much free money, no because it can take a while/many people to really start raking in the big bucks with Quant mining

[mighty gazelle]

I make 175-250k (prospector) per rock takes me 30 minutes tops to get rock in refinery if the server is rough with a 24 hour turn around time to be able to sell the refined material. I do 2-3 rocks first thing when I get on. After a couple of days you'll always have half a million plus you can go cash in whenever. When they nerfed the refresh rates of valuable commodities trading took a hit. Going back to my original point of it not being worth it at the moment unless you have a good size cargo ship. You'll never fill a large ship with laranite right now. Mining may take a hit soon but if you can get the starting cost down it is exponentially better than trading right now if your trading with anything other than the top few cargo ships in game.

[teal iris]

so in mining

do you have to sell the refined materials

or do you just get the money once the refinery is done

[pulsar goblet]

When mining quatanium. Does it disapear when you store your ship?

Just landed at the refinery station. Stored the ship, went to the refinery, and the quantanium wasnt showing up in either sell menu or the refinery menu

[dreamy river]

You need a cargo hauler to take the refined ore to a city

[brazen thistle]

Any recomendations on ROC upgrades to make it better and so it melt thru rocks faster?

[mighty gazelle]

Yeah you have load it, transport refined materials and sell

[teal iris]

does anyone have a mole and want to do some mining?

[elder kite]

Thanks man I really appreciate it

[north oyster]

There is a group that regularly mines that will hire you if you want to join them. Let me know and I can link you to the boss

[teal iris]

that sounds neat sure, link me with him.

[north oyster]

I'm driving at the moment, I will give you that link when I get back. Are one of the other regulars can link you to Cross

[teal iris]

alright im not in a big rush

[north oyster]

@thin escarp runs a team. You do need to be at least 18yr old. Excellent group and they rule the mining system

[teal iris]

alright thanks for telling me I will shoot him a DM

[marble crater]

can't upgrade the ROC laser unfortunately

[analog field]

I always ping again once i get the rock sshowing up. But yea... it's very common to get dud rocks. If you get more than a few in a row jump 10k away and try again

[north oyster]

Asteroid belt has a sync issue that only server meshing can fix (according to Todd Papy). So it is 100% depended upon a healthy server. Brunevde mentioned a great idea of doing a short jump (10,000 Km) to see if that solves the issue. If it does not then a different server would be in order. On Lyria you will not encounter any (or hardly any) scan issues, so i might be the best place mine for quantainium, though it does introduce some issues of its own.

[deep vector]

Same

[deep vector]

After one jump I usually bedlog

[lyric nest]

so im just lurking and testing out gallog and i found this. lol dont know if its true

[marble crater]

good luck getting more than 30scu of it

[stable lion]

The in game buy prices tend to vary so you won't often get the max amount

I wrote down some of the base prices for things so I know when it's a good deal

[stoic schooner]

Any1 wanna go prospecting

@everyone

[deep vector]

Anyone who uses pings on public servers should be sentenced.

[remote lodge]

Like everyone is mostly a ping that people are getting bans for xD or mostly it's turned off

[deep vector]

Every reasonable being turns them off in a first place, but still - he did bad things and should feel bad.

[hollow basin]

Is there anywhere to buy drugs from? The waste management and the orphanage trade centers were bugged and didn’t find my ship

Or, alternatively, what would be the best route for a 315p?

[blissful hinge]

How much money can be made ROC mining?

[brazen thistle]

Full basic roc of Hadenite gave me 230 or 260k dont remember exactly.

[blissful hinge]

ok thanks

[silent basin]

GDI I finally find a cluster of ore and they are all duds. Please help me space Jesus.

Is it worth trying the other servers for less buggy mining?

[north oyster]

ROC mining "works" sort of but has some issues since 3.14 when CIG changed the scan/ping mechanics. Now the gem deposits do not show up on ping unless very close to the ship (within 1200 meters) while you get tons of noise returns from the large ore deposits all they way out to 15K meters.

Then there is the scan problems, sometimes you have to verify the deposits by zooming in and looking at the color in the veins of the rocks.

A few other issues, but that's the current state of ROC mining

[blissful hinge]

ok

[silent basin]

Also, the gems sometimes roll into other objects/terrain and have to be left behing. Same with any surface mining though. (from my experience)

[silent basin]

What's a good loadout for a prospector?

[deep vector]

How much time it was?

[deep vector]

Mine

Based on blowing rocks and killing my powerplant

That’s why shields and powerplant those

[silent basin]

Lancet is for quant mining right?

[deep vector]

Yes

[silent basin]

Nice, I'll give it a shot. I mined the asteroid belt with a rental prospector now I finally have one of my own.

[deep vector]

Rental is awful

Laser installed

[silent basin]

So I've heard of modules for helping out. Those are consumables?

[deep vector]

Some are

You may do it with 0 modules

If you claim your ship modules are gone

So money wise best without modules

Because it’s SC

[brazen thistle]

way too long 🙂 approx 4 hours as i was picky and ignored other gems.

[deep vector]

Prospector gives same in half an hour or less

[brazen thistle]

well... first i need to earn money for it 😄

[deep vector]

Yep

[brazen thistle]

working on it... slowly but almost there. 1.6m on my account rn.

[silent basin]

Wait where is the module to purchase mining stuff on HUR-L2? I'm at the refininery deck store already and the laser I want isn't on the wall and the items don't show up at the kiosk.

Oh, nvm. You have to scroll through the tabs on the top of the vendor screen

[shy crane]

any money in scrap? hate leaving a station empty.....
going back to Lorrville

[sacred idol]

never let it be said 600i cant carry anything

[limber hamlet]

look at what at got!
||49% quantanium||

and the sevruer crashed

[silent basin]

you jinxed it

I just did my first Quant run and the ore alone was 70k for about 20min worth of my time. Awesome.

[obtuse jetty]

anyone does know what the best planet to mine quantanium is?

[silent basin]

I just tried Lyria and I found 2 nodes cloe to each other in about 3-4min of looking but I probably just got lucky.

[pale verge]

Lyria is the best place for quantanium! And I usually go to mining facility SPAL 2 on Lyria. After that just fly in a straight line until you find two or more rocks really close to each other. That is quantanium.

[silent basin]

I have issues with scanning on Lyria. I have to get up right next to nodes to scan them with the mining interface.

[pale verge]

Yeah. I don't think there is any way to fixt that. if a rock refuses to scan i sometimes shoot it with the laser and then it scans

[silent basin]

I actually don't see a SPAL 2 on Lyria. I seel SAL-2

SPAL 3

[obtuse jetty]

Thanks for the reply, i wanted to prove it to my friends because they still said Clio is the best place for Quantanium.

[candid cradle]

You do not want

[cold lark]

Is there any site that’s more updated than gallon for trading?

Gallog

[glacial dagger]

UEX are also a pretty decent tool, as is SC Trade Tools

[cold lark]

Alright thanks homie

[glacial dagger]

No worries my dude, enjoy

[silent basin]

Just made 1mil in about 4 hours farming quant for the first time. Not bad at all.

[north oyster]

Welcome to the addition of making your SC dreams come true. Your ratio will also improve as time goes on, and that could be close to 1M per 1.5 hrs or better.

Last time I made over 600K in three runs

[hollow basin]

anyone know where I can find a Roc to buy ingame?

[lilac patio]

New deal on loreville

[hollow basin]

My buddy says he cant see it to buy

[lilac patio]

Is he using the displays

[hollow basin]

he went to the computer

at the mining rig

inloreville

[lilac patio]

It should be there, get him to filter by the manufacturer “Greycat industrial”

[hollow basin]

when did you check last?

[lilac patio]

It’s not going to go away

Should look like this

[hollow basin]

im gonna go take a look myself

Where should I go to to use it after I get it?

[silent basin]

Can I only jettison my prospector load when it starts beeping?

Well, my volatile timer just went negative,

[indigo wolf]

Mind sharing your favorite mining spots? Bc I can find a single quant rock over 10% for like 30 min.

[analog field]

@indigo wolf i find alot of mine in band 4 of the belt

[thin escarp]

i do have a mining guide pinned in this channel everyone

aswell as i can dm you guys my scouting guide and my mole mining guide for crew.

[deep vector]

Everything I see pinned outdated af

[thin escarp]

i know it says 3.16

[deep vector]

Dm me recent info please

[thin escarp]

but

its not old.

nothing has changed based on my video for the information in it.

the pdf file

@deep vector

[deep vector]

Thx mate

[hearty walrus]

Is it worth renting a prospector and mining for the top 6 ores minus the Quantainium or just stick to ROC mining until I have 2.5mil to buy a prospector + upgrade to be able to mine Quantainium?

[toxic oyster]

sadly renting a prospector is not worth it

[analog field]

I did some roc mining and some bunker pewpew in between

[thin forum]

yeah rented prospector mining is not a fun experience if you're actually wanting to make money

[deep vector]

You won’t find a lot of those top 6

Less than quant

Lol

[north oyster]

Band 1 of the Halo has been very productive for me. I did have a time in Band 6 where I found tons of Quantainium asteroids but the dice was hitting all 2% rocks not matter what. Sometimes the dice gods just hate you and you will not get a good roll

[indigo wolf]

Ok cool thanks

[deep vector]

My personal best is 5. Density beats all)

Literally when I dropped from 5 for 50k km - emptiness around, lots of rocks and none useful

[indigo wolf]

What is the best mining head for a solo prospector quant mining

[hollow basin]

Know anything for ROC mining with a cutlass black?

[lapis magnet]

Asking a question for a friend; but if you happen to afk on an outpost landing pad, and just happened to load up a cargo full of cargo; Can you claim your ship from somewhere, or do you lose the cargo through a claim?

[silent basin]

Lancet MH1

[quasi dragon]

how far is band 1 from CRU L1

[silent basin]

So I loaded my ship up with Quant to sell, but when I landed my ship it was empty. I am hoping it is just a visual bug.

[lapis magnet]

CRU L1 to Arc L3 stop at 12,941,643

[quasi dragon]

ty

[indigo wolf]

What is they key to activate an active module thingy

Like the surge thing

[lapis magnet]

Alt+slot

Alt+1/2/3 depending on the slot*

[indigo wolf]

Ok thanks

[silent basin]

It was a visual bug. Managed to get 350k for one trip with my cutty black. Damn that feels good.

[lapis magnet]

It gets even better

[thin escarp]

@hollow basin I recommend aberdeen or arial. fly low and fast

go for hadanite.

clusters over 3 are def worth the time to unload etc. I wouldn't mine longer than a hour and a half with the roc before selling due to bugs and sometimes refueling and laser will just stop working

then sell on the same planet. same station you spawned it at.

@silent basin visual bug sadly we can't see our cargo in most ships visually

it's there tho!

sold off 6 mil myself last night

[silent basin]

It caught me offguard since it was the first time that happened to me,

[thin escarp]

haha you aren't alone there

[silent basin]

I am saving up for a cargo freighter and I'm starting to get quick at locating mining nodes.

6mil though, what do you even spend your money on?

[lapis magnet]

plenty of ships to try, or you can pick up more than one

[thin escarp]

I've already bought most ships. So mainly it's used to help make my events run smoothly

I have my own racing leagues etc

@silent basin

[silent basin]

Oh nice, that is pretty dope.

[thin escarp]

pre 3.15 I had 6 moles

testing different loadouts etc

lots of research to keep my mining group the most efficient as possible

right now we pull over a 100 million a month.

[hollow basin]

Thanks bro

What about for mole mining with 3-4 people?

[hearty walrus]

Thanks. Thought so. I mined quite a bit of bex last night with a rental but it was hard work, alot harder and less gains than ROC mining.

I guess I just ROC mine until I get 2.5 million and then go for prospector + upgrades.

[brazen thistle]

Claim ship = new ship
You will abandon old and get brand new one so you will lost everything that was in the first ship.

[thin escarp]

@hollow basin yes. 4 ppl is really solid

1 scout ina fast ship

2 lasers and a pilot

[mighty gazelle]

Grab a box delivery mission too. Drop boxes at good rocks and scout can mark a bunch quick and keep trucking.

[lapis magnet]

Yeah, I know. I'm asking why they were able to retrieve a ship from a outpost pad at the station. They afk'd on Arial; woke up on everest, and was able to retrieve the ship full of cargo.

No claim

[indigo wolf]

Maybe it was the last station they where at so it put all his stuff there kinda like if the server 30k they will bring your stuff to the last station you where at with no claim so you don’t loose all your stuff

[lapis magnet]

that would be super cool, saved me my friend from a full cargo loss

[hollow sedge]

Whats best modules for solo mole quant mining

2x rieger 3
1x vox 3?

[manic estuary]

check the pinned msgs here

[north oyster]

Mining in the Belt is almost 100% server dependent. If get a lot of duds try jumping about 20K Km ans scan again. If it seems still too many duds, then try to find a healthier server.

Duds in Aaron’s Halo won’t be resolved until server meshing gets implemented

Let me know how Band 1 works out for you @quasi dragon

[silent basin]

My game crashed while I was dropping off a load of quantainium and when I relogged I was in my hospital gown. I think I just lost 600k+ Fuck me man.

So fucking frustrating.

[marble crater]

Had that happen last week, crashed on my way to A18 from ARCL1 and relogged in Hurston lmao. lost all my Quant

[north oyster]

Normally for ships, there is a recovery. Just never "Claim" your ship but wait about 15 minutes when logging in so that you can "Retrieve" your ship. Unless it was blown up prior to the crash

[silent basin]

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to give it a try the next time. Well hopefully there isn't a next time.

[north oyster]

In this game, it's only a matter of time before the next one but the 30K protection actually does work very well. I would also avoid QT around planets, expecially ArcCrop because it's in rough shape quantum jumping wise. I would suggest Jumping to the orbital markers, and finally to Binjini point. From there you can QT safely to Area18 or park at the station and take one of your smaller ships down. The shuttle down option will not be available any longer after this build because they are separating the inventories of the planets from the space stations (bummer).

[analog field]

Man that's lame!

[cosmic rose]

so is the roc upgradeable or not. I see someone recommending upgrades, but another source says the modules don't do anything yet

[analog field]

You can't upgrade the laser and the parts have a limited life cycle( can't repair atm far as I can tell) so no reason to upgrade

[thin escarp]

@silent basin if your around Saturday I have my massive mining operation at 10pm est we will have 4-9 moles going and we will pull in 15-25 mil.

you will make that back

[gleaming stirrup]

question since your a mining operation person

can i help haul my buddies mining cargo

or does he have to do it

apologies if it's dumb, still new to SC and learning a bit - buying a taurus soon

[tawny path]

anyone mining? I have a mole

[subtle cradle]

He has to do it. You can only load the cargo in to your own ship sadly

[gleaming stirrup]

ah shame

[deep vector]

My game crashed in the beginning of a jump, relogged and found myself loaded on a landing pad of a refinery, had more time left than usual lol. Got impounded right away.

[north oyster]

Unfortunately at this time, only owner of refined goods can haul the cargo to market. It will be awesome when we can subcontract haulers but that isn't there yet.
((oops, I didn't see CBB had already replied))

[cosmic rose]

Yeah. I loaded on a landing pad too and got impounded. Crazy. I hadn't been anywhere near that pad, and had landed on others in the interim.

ok, what does this channel say about renting a prospector and mining in a belt or on a planet? That zero to hero made it look maybe more profitable than roc mining, he was getting laranite and he had to process it too.

[thin escarp]

@gleaming stirrup has to be his ship

well whoever mining ship

has to cargo it

[manic estuary]

does claiming a "stored" mining ship from a different location, destroy the mining modules?

mole just QT'd without me, got sent back to my regen location but the ship was stored where I was leaving from.. check it and all the modules are gone

[thin escarp]

weird.

[silent basin]

Yea, if you claim it it resets inventory and modules.

[deep vector]

Yes

[torpid cloud]

How come I am never able to see my inventory form A18 at bajini if that’s the case? Or am I missing something

[deep vector]

Missing, but doesn’t matter, in 3.17 it’ll be separated

[north oyster]

Your ships should be common to both places. I have noticed that I wasn't able to see a module I purchased down in Dumpers on A18 up at Bajini, so I wonder if CIG is applying little hot fixes along and along for issues and changes.

[manic estuary]

is there a way to tell which turret is which in the mole? 1 was main, now it's right..

[north oyster]

that would be a Cross question, I don't run the Mole very often

[quasi dragon]

its working amazing

got over 1 mil in orders already

[north oyster]

That's great news, I had been exploring all the bands but stopped when Band 1 was so lucrative. I have yet to test band 8, but I wonder if would be like Band 1 because of being an outer band. Not sure if it'll have the same density of Quantainium, but that would be nice.

[hollow basin]

where and how? how long?

[quasi dragon]

band 1 quant mining

[hollow basin]

what is band 1?

[quasi dragon]

and idk how long but its from today

[hollow basin]

4 hours? 6 hours?

[quasi dragon]

probably just about 1.5 hours

[hollow basin]

damn bro

[quasi dragon]

possibly 2

[hollow basin]

where/what is band 1?

whats your ship setup?

[quasi dragon]

if you look at this it shows you all of the bands from the halo

from CRU L1

and just a lancet

[hollow basin]

all my friends just started the quant mining game, we are getting like 300k for 4 people over 3-4 hours

[quasi dragon]

if you have friends lyria is the best

[hollow basin]

I'm not sure how to understand that

[quasi dragon]

get one of you to scout and the rest go and mine it

[hollow basin]

care to hop in a VC and explain it?

Do you start at AR-L3, then make your way to ARc l5?

[thin escarp]

dude if your team mIning

go to lyria

use my guide

https://youtu.be/xfgIp_ByeJc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykDBXb9RajM

[waxen coral]

can you sell quant straight to the refinery?

[thin escarp]

you lose half its worth

sometimes it doesn't work

[waxen coral]

also is there a recomended fit for a mole?

[hollow basin]

this is just when im solo

Trying to figure out where to Roc mine aswell

[thin escarp]

@waxen coral I have mole loadouts in my guide pinned in this channel

[waxen coral]

will rocks despawn?

[thin escarp]

if you leave the area

yes

[north oyster]

ROC mining on Aberdeen (best) or Arial (runner up). You will also need the Pembroke armor

[north oyster]

If you QT to OM-1 and dive down to the planet from there, it is always daylight because OM-1 marks the north axis of the planet

Aaron's Halo band distances from CRU-L1

Aaron's Halo Bands from ARC-L1

[hollow sedge]

So ive heard that mining is the big money so I am thinking about renting a prospector to just get some cash, what is the best thing to hunt for and best place to find it for a stock prospector to snag?

[north oyster]

you will be limited with the rental prospector. You can crack larger rocks in the Asteroid belt than you can on land. Also, you will not be able to crack rocks with Quantainium

You also need a cargo ship to move your refined goods

A cutty black is your smallest ship

[hollow sedge]

Yeah my buddies and I normally go after quant in a mole but I wanted to just do some solo stuff, I have 200k so I have plenty to rent a prospector for a while and then rent a big hauler to move the refined goods

Just not sure what I should be looking for

[north oyster]

Here's a video on making a profit with a rental, if interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYTjNnzHqO8

[hollow sedge]

❤️

[north oyster]

Bexilite, laranite, etc

Borase it trash, it normally breaks horribly and so does Heph

Frist column is raw price (selling to refinery if it works) and the second is refined profit

[hollow sedge]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxKEVlpO3W5Qei1E_A-UqN-HBaHmnAj9ud

hull a

[north oyster]

that was a good episode

[cosmic rose]

Thank you. I was looking for something like this. So many people act like anything less than Quant mining is a waste of time, but as a new player, I'm just looking to make a faster profit than a roc.

[north oyster]

I hope it helps. The rental isn't ideal but with the next build we will having mining components that will (I speculate) make the rental actual usable when it wasn't prior.

Your goal is 2.2M aUEC so you can buy your own Prospector at New Deal

[sage anchor]

So uh, is this something anyone would find useful? Couldn't find anything like it terribly easily and just started slapping together a google sheet that kind of got out of control lol

[thin forum]

problem with rental is just how slow it is compared to quant to make a decent profit

way better to spend your time grinding, like, bounties or bunker missions to 2 mil and then you can just go for quant

[cosmic rose]

I think people who are renting aren't comparing it to quant.

[thin forum]

like, if everything goes right and you get decent RNG, ship doesn't get damaged whilst mining, you don't bug/disconnect, nobody griefs you, you then wait like 24 hours for it to refine to make just as much profit as you would from a 15/20 minute bunker

as said though mining gadgets should make it better

[cosmic rose]

err, that's only 15k

[thin forum]

need to increase rep, 15k is the first tier

[cosmic rose]

ahh, it goes up? Nice, maybe I'll keep doing the bunker missions then. They are kinda fun and the cave missions, I fps mine when clear.

[quasi dragon]

it increases very quick

[thin forum]

yeah. I'm only rep 3, but I grind microtech bunkers, they're SUPER easy and I make 60k per one right now, can virtually AFK it too

[cosmic rose]

but I was thinking of just renting a cutlass, I bought a roc the other day.

[thin forum]

I believe rep 5 gets 90k per mission

[cosmic rose]

whoa,

[quasi dragon]

its just grinding them is a pain since they are quite buggy

[cosmic rose]

nice, that increase makes it worth then.

yes, often no one spawn or double evelator.

[thin forum]

cutlass and ROC mining is pretty fun but also a little frustrating and unreliable. I don't wanna poop on your parade entirely, mining is just a little rough now due to bugs and RNG

[quasi dragon]

although ive not had a problem with them

[thin forum]

by all means go for it, just expect frustration and, like, a LOT of inconsistency

[cosmic rose]

well, my main problem with roc mining is driving 20 minutes looking for a rock to mine.

[thin forum]

yeah, cutlass helps a lot

[cosmic rose]

that was in a cutlass

[thin forum]

christ yeah

[cosmic rose]

luckily getting enough to pay for the cutlass rental isn't a problem.

[thin forum]

it's a big issue with all mining

a lot of it is just praying for RNG and flying around bored scanning rocks

[cosmic rose]

but the only time I find a cluster of more than 4 minables, they are all dolorite.

Hadenite only comes in pairs

yeah, pretty much.

[marble crater]

how do you afk the Tier 3 bunkers? there's no security there

[cosmic rose]

ok, cool. do the mine missions go up too or just the bunker ones? I sometimes go days without a bunker mission spawning.

[quasi dragon]

there is

[thin forum]

there are on minor threat defense, that's tier 3

[marble crater]

hmm mine must be bugging out then

[thin forum]

the microtech ones do at the very least, 100%, yup

[cosmic rose]

but yeah, bunker missions, sometimes you can just let the guards do the work.

ok, does it make a difference where I do bunker missions. i've been doing in Crusader, and lately hurston. I seem to get more back-to-back missions in hurston. Dunno if that is just rng or what.

[quasi dragon]

I do MT or hurston because the guards are easier to see

i cant remember which it was but either crusader or arc corp was very similar to the enemies

[cosmic rose]

crusader. I kept getting crime stat for not being able to tell the difference.

which reminds me the other reason I went to hurston.

[thin forum]

yeeee they're bright white on microtech, super obvious

[cosmic rose]

Ok, cool. Do the clear out the mine missions go up in value too with rep?

[quasi dragon]

I dont think they have rep

I could be wrong though

[cosmic rose]

is there a way to tell? I Didn't realize the bunkers did

[quasi dragon]

In the rep tab you should see like for MT at least MT Protection Services

and its the rep on the

right???????

whatever one doesnt give you a bonus

[cosmic rose]

well, if only bunkers give the rep, guess I'll specialize then

[cosmic rose]

does rep decay?

[sour cairn]

no

[hollow sedge]

So where is a good place to mine bexalite?

[thin escarp]

id say prob daymar

[hollow sedge]

Hey... what can you fit inside a reclaimer? a roc DS?

[thin escarp]

loool i fit like

8 rocs in there once.

[analog field]

Hop in to clear my refinery stuff before patch/i forget to do it. Game crashed in quant to sell

full connie of quant lost

Not really rekindling to my desire to start again lol

[analog field]

If not halo lyria

[thin forum]

if you're buying rather than renting and want quant, lyria is good as a starter place yes

[north oyster]

Band 7 seemed to have a lot of Bexilite, iirc properly

[north oyster]

3.17 going LIVE is a long ways off. Not even in open PTU yet.
Really hate to hear about the crash/loss. Consider smaller loads to market based on value. Maybe only 1M aUEC or 500K aUEC at a time.

Lyria is the Motherland of Quntainium

[analog field]

Eh i just knew i woulda forgot to do it cause I was taking a bit of a hiatus. Wouldn't be an issue if the bed logging kicking in actually worked

Saved me a few times with crashes/ dcs in the prosp

[north oyster]

I found that bed logging will work your first time logging in you just let it time out and crash back to the main menu. Close the game completely go back in and then try to access. The main thing is to never log off on a planet surface

[analog field]

The little hick ups and hard crashes won't be as big a deal when persistence actually works

Just burned me a tiny bit lol. Not actually that mad or upset. Just humorous cause I've run 6m of crud and this is the first time it's happened

[tender quiver]

just rent a prospector

If you dont explode and lost your ship you can keep it how long you want

[hearty walrus]

Renting a prospector is pointless, use a ROC and save up that way

[tender quiver]

From one good rock you will get 250k

[thin forum]

even ROC mining is questionable, it's definitely the way to go if you want to grind to prospector PURELY by mining but it's really frustrating to use right now with the ore getting scattered and the RNG involved.

[tender quiver]

To earn this on ROC you must get 80 scu of Hadanite

Thats hard

[modern otter]

is there a reason why the mining laser on my prospector won't turn on? It was working fine earlier and now when I left click it doesn't turn on

I'm looking at a scanned rock I want to mine

[solemn heron]

Any rock you find for the ROC is going to be 135/per unit and up so its really not that bad in a decently fast ship flying low

But the only absolutely sucky thing is when the coolers life goes out

or the power plant idk

and the whole thing overheats or powers off

[tender quiver]

Anyways, is someone have a good cargo guide for beginners with small ship ?

[thin forum]

with cargo and trade working as it does right now, the best admittedly negative advice is to not even try it if you're in a small ship lol

[glacial dagger]

For small cargo (<15SCU), look into doing some drugs

And learn the unmarked locations

[tender quiver]

no no I mean 40>

I have Freelancer

[glacial dagger]

Oh., Look into running a Laranite/Titanium mix

That or get into mining and then haul your refined quant

[tender quiver]

I already tried quant minig but its super boring

[shy crane]

best place to sell Medical Supplies?

[tender quiver]

I have no idea but maybe CRU-L1

[tender quiver]

Where I could buy and sell laranite for the best profit

[glacial dagger]

Have a look at some popular trading apps like Gallog, UEX and SC Trade Tools

[tender quiver]

its websites ?

[glacial dagger]

yh

[shy crane]

I loaded my ship with medical supplies at some point last night....can't even remember where I was....just wondering the best place to sell them for profit....I'm guess it was a mining site....don't want to take a bath on them

[glacial dagger]

Have a look at some popular trading apps like Gallog, UEX and SC Trade Tools

[shy crane]

good advice....just don't have the time to research....I'll just dump them next place I land....thanks 🙂

[glacial dagger]

????? Then why buy them?

[shy crane]

ended a bunker mission and dropped off my last package.....was really late....always like to fill the cargo hold before I go back to my station.....drunk buying? lol

[glacial dagger]

Lol. Well, if you still cant be bothered to look up a place, try Lorvile CBD

[shy crane]

honestly I forgot they were there lol I'll try Lorville thanks

[glacial dagger]

https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer
https://www.gallog.co/
https://uexcorp.space/

[tender quiver]

Its the most valuable routes ?

[glacial dagger]

Give it a shot,. have a go

[shy crane]

only half a mil until my prospector!! woot!

[tender quiver]

Its 919k ?

or just 919

[glacial dagger]

919 profit, yh

hence why I reccomend running stuff like small amounts of drugs when you don't have much cargo capacity

[tender quiver]

I found a nice route for 26k profit

I will check it

[chrome shard]

@tender quiver hello😋

[tender quiver]

HI

[north oyster]

Check with @thin escarp and his team, they have a huge mining operation where you can earn and learn. The only caveat is that you have to be (18?, not sure) or older.

[north oyster]

unlike the general consensus here that "You can't earn money in a rental Prospector" you actually can. You won't earn like you can with one you own that can run Quantainium, but you can earn and learn in a rental Prospector. Not huge dollars but you will make table and more.

But since you find mining super boring, and you have an FL, you can do bounties and earn decent coin. As to trade, unless you have a C2 or CAT, Trade isn't an option in this current build

[thin escarp]

quant mining boring... lmao

@hollow sedge I def can help ya make enough to get that prospector. in 4 hours 50 minutes I'll be running a massive mining op. we will pull in 15-25 million auec.

over a couple hours.

no ship is needed. just be 18+ and a will to learn.

[shy crane]

where/when? that sounds fun

[fair slate]

TF

[thin escarp]

tonight

10pm est

[desert yarrow]

Teach me senpai

[thin escarp]

dm me if you wanna come

[thin escarp]

@fair slate fr fr

[glacial dagger]

If it's what I think it is, good luck trying to fill up on it

[thin escarp]

@glacial dagger yep

[glacial dagger]

Lemme guess, you tried filling up on Laranite?

[marble crater]

Tier 2 box deliveries is the most you'll make from cargo in a small ship even though it's not really cargo trading lol

[solemn lance]

holy crap. I mine a lot, but get nothing like that

[north oyster]

Cross has a mining consortium of players. They run multiple MOLE teams along with scouts. They can pull from 10M aUEC to 20M aUEC in one night. They've got it down to a science now.

[minor bobcat]

Can't direct message cross Xd

[solemn lance]

wow, that is cool. I just solo in my mole

[north oyster]

Tag him here and maybe he can DM you

[minor bobcat]

@thin escarp i am interested in leaning how to mine proper.

ty tripper

[north oyster]

Solo in a MOLE isn't a small job, you can earn good coin doing that. I only use a Prospector

[solemn lance]

oh, I do earn decent money, just not nearly the same scale

[minor bobcat]

yeah having a fleet of fellow miners must make a mint

[solemn lance]

I am sitting at 6 mil because of it, think that was over like a week though

[north oyster]

Well, scale is an option you have in a MOLE but requires sharing the wealth too

[solemn lance]

yeah, I solo party because I am in a tiny org (need to find a new one, despite really liking the people I play with) and also so I do not have to share 🙂

[north oyster]

Cross didn't start off with 6 MOLE teams, he worked up to that point

[marble crater]

I've done alot of crewed Mole and while we made around $1.5M/Hour once you divide that by 3 it's $500K/Hour which is worse than a solo Prospector. Having said that though the fun factor of a Mole team is way higher

[minor bobcat]

that and pausing for a bathroom break doesnt stop the whole operation Xd

[solemn lance]

lol

yeah, solo mole can be amazing, I have done single haul with 88scu of quant, can not do that in a prospector 🙂

but still solo, so no bathroom breaks, especially after you start sucking it up

[north oyster]

dang, I was hoping to get in and do some testing but doesn't seem it's gonna happen. Guess I'll make a few runs into the Halo

[marble crater]

yeah my best runs have been solo Mole but I still prefer to go with a small crew. Prefer the fun factor over solo farming lately

[minor bobcat]

yeah as for me being still rather fresh, i get a education in mining, make some possible cash, make the guy teaching some cash, and score some good/fun conversation. def a win win

[marble crater]

SC is definitely more enjoyable when playing in a group

[solemn lance]

agreed, that is why I need to find a larger org

[thin escarp]

@north oyster I have around 10 we use on Saturday but over 90 moles in my org. and 325 prospectors

[marble crater]

RIP to the poor dude on Latrine duties

[minor bobcat]

long as that lad is making his cut, he'll take that crap Xd

[thin escarp]

@minor bobcat ur not accepting friend requests

[minor bobcat]

sorry forgot i disabled that

had a bunch of scam requests a while back spamming me

so i just turned it off

back on now Xd

@thin escarp try again when your able. should work now@_@

[north oyster]

I figured I had old stats, LOL

[thin escarp]

🤣🤣

we've been pulling over 100 mil a month though

[obtuse sand]

what are the best passive modules for a lancet prospector?

(hoping to mine quant)

[thin escarp]

i have a mining guide in this channel

with several different loadouts

i got a couple passive ones on there

[waxen coral]

How much SCU will the Hull B hold?

[north oyster]

Exacts aren’t known but it looks like 384 SCU. Early literature on it sometimes said 1024 SCU.

[deep vector]

B? It’s C was above 1000

[hearty walrus]

If me and a friend rented a prospector each and we mined the same rock, would that be enough to get through and mine Quantainium rocks?

[pale verge]

yes! you could mine quantanium. Not the biggest ones but it works

[potent tinsel]

question for halo quant miners. do you find it more profitable to prospect solo or use a Mole if you have to split it 50/50? what if the Mole was a three man team, so it was split 33/33/33?

[manic estuary]

I'm doing that test right now. If you can deal with the issues the mole will introduce as a solo miner, it will always be more profitable due to the increased cargo space

[tardy flower]

"profitable" do you included fun or just crédits ?

[gleaming mirage]

anyone looking to do cargo or some mining?

[potent tinsel]

strictly credits

[manic estuary]

im about to hop in my mole

[potent tinsel]

not counting mole solo

but ill be curious what you come up with

[manic estuary]

i would say it's more profitable to do prospector solo, more fun with a crew

[pale verge]

@potent tinsel I would say two prospectors make more money than splitting 3 in a mole. But it's just a guess

[manic estuary]

but if you have an amazing crew, scouts, etc, then the crew could be slightly ahead

[tardy flower]

@potent tinsel Prospector (with the good loadout) will brings you more crédits.
With a Mole you will have fun, faster fracturation and extraction + more cargo.

I guess nos thé best is a Mole with one pilote and two miners

[manic estuary]

but now i'm using the mole, solo as if i'm in the propsector... getting some nice returns, last 3 were all over 32scu with the peak at 59

[potent tinsel]

interesting; tyvm. ive crewed for other's Mole and have acquired about 4mil so im trying to decide if i should get prospector or keep saving for mole.

[manic estuary]

here are my pros/cons for prospector vs mole. prospector pros: easier for solo, no up and down ladders, can use the mining laser to scan (scan mode is inconsistent). cons: ui sucks, cargo space

[tardy flower]

Buy a Mole, some coffee and beers. Get a crew and enjoy 😉

[manic estuary]

mole pros: cargo space, crew, 3 laser config, mining ui. cons: solo is tough, desync issues without a pilot, up and down ladders, takes a bit getting used to the issues

i'd go prospector first, learn how to crack big rocks solo, you can always help a crew with a prospector too. earn a lot and save up for a mole as having both is nice 🙂

[tardy flower]

I can't wait for the Orion 😁

[manic estuary]

hopefully there's new things to mine though with that...

[deep vector]

I left enough things in halo with prospector. Do solo mole, lol.

[tardy flower]

Lyria is great too for Quantainium.

[manic estuary]

i dont even bother with the halo anymore... usually only takes me 5-10 mins to find something worth mining on lyria

[tardy flower]

Yeah but run away for pirates 🤣

[thin forum]

I've spent, like, a STUPID amount of time on Lyria mining quant and never saw a pirate there, it's basically a myth

most issues I've had with players was at the actual refinery

lyria's way less frustrating too, every cluster is guaranteed to have a quant rock and the horizon makes it harder to retrack explored ground

[mighty gazelle]

I would say if your mostly solo grab the prospector first and kit it out. Would spend half your current bankroll but with the kitted out prospector you can very quickly get back to having mole money. Solo mole is rough ngl. Wouldn't be bad if they would get rid of the jumping on a trampoline animation when the pilot isn't in the seat

[dusty nimbus]

Is cargo, either missions or flipping materials, viable for profit or am I better off doing other things for money?

[potent tinsel]

best modules for prospector for someone who has halo mined for a few weeks (in other's ships)?

[fiery cosmos]

Choosing your mining modules are dependent on Personal Preference, Mining Experience and Mining Locale. If you're mining on planet (Lyria) and feeling confident and experienced, 2x Surges and a Stampede so you can break the chonker rocks if you come across some (rocks on planet spawn between 3-8k mass). If mining in space (Halo) where rocks only spawn as large as 5k, maybe take something to help you with Instability (for quantanium) like say Focus3, Reiger3 and Vaux3. There are many, many utilizable variations dependent on the miner and the situation.

TLDR; There are multiple answers to that question.

[potent tinsel]

ok ty

[manic estuary]

yeah, not worried about pirates at all.. if anything it's people protecting an area which i have no problems avoiding

[golden kettle]

Is hand mining worth doing? Or is my time to make $$ better spending doing other things?

Im trying to get a prospector but never really gotten into mining before

[dusty nimbus]

Is ROC mining viable?

[median girder]

is trading fixed now? can u sell more than 5 scu and actually make money?

[deep vector]

Kinda. Question is can you buy more than 30 scu

[median girder]

Could I save for a starferer via cargo runs or is bounty literally the only viable career?

@deep vector

I'm tryna decide if it's worth a reinstall

[deep vector]

Mining or bounties

[median girder]

Yeah but you also need over a mill for a mining ship which I don't have

[deep vector]

2 mil

Do box missions

[median girder]

Also you make way more doing Bounty's in a far shorter timeframe

[deep vector]

45k each

So do bounties

[median girder]

Sounds good

They're boring for me now I've done so many

I want something new

But don't wanna spend 2 hrs to make no money

[deep vector]

250k a day and in a week+ you’ll have a prospector

Prospector may easy get mil in two hours if you know how to do it

[median girder]

So trading is still broken and not a money making option?

[deep vector]

^

I filled fatlancer with larinite

But if I may do it again?

[median girder]

Okay so trading just isn't worth it when mining and Bounty's are a thing? That's a shame to me since trading is supposed to be a big career

[deep vector]

Or missions

Traiding is decent, that’s why EVERYONE doing it

But couple hercs and there’s nothing to buy for all

Good luck

[median girder]

Oh that sucks

Is there a website that says where to buy and sell for max profit?

[deep vector]

Yes, but again

Overall stock are through all servers

So good luck filling your ship

[thin escarp]

@potent tinsel I have a mining guide pinned in this channel. different module loadouts and all sorts of info

@median girder you don't always need a ship to mine

people rent n roc mine

also there's lots of groups that mine aswell as mole pilots needing crew.

just gotta find the right people

[sleek hinge]

Is consumables a must for prospector / quant mining? I have a helix head but it doesn’t seem to be really doing much.

[fiery cosmos]

Lancet MH1 Mining Laser is a must for Quant. The modules, passive or active, can make it easier but aren't a necessity.

[sleek hinge]

I read the helix was a go to. Not anymore?

[fiery cosmos]

Lancet MH1 is roughly 25k and can be found at ARC-L1, CRU-L1, HUR-L2 & MIC-L1 as well as Dumpers at Port Olisar.

[fiery cosmos]

Helix is ok for it but the Lancet has better Instability reduction and better throttle response. It's just a bit slower to crack the rock since the charge rate is lower.

[sleek hinge]

With the lancet head alone. What should I look to avoid when prospecting? I’ve used my helix head and the bar never even moved past 1/4 at 100% power. Not sure why.

[fiery cosmos]

What was the Mass of the rock?

[sleek hinge]

4.5 I think?

[fiery cosmos]

4.5 shouldn't be a problem. Were you close enough to the rock?

[potent tinsel]

when my refinery work order is complete, i can just leave it in the terminal while my other orders are processing? the collect option is greyed out, not that i know what would happen if i pushed it anyway 🤔

im guessing that if i had a ship with cargo capacity, it would show up under storage options...

[thin escarp]

@sleek hinge helix is not the laser to use

lancet is

I have a mining guide pinned with loadouts

in this channel

[dusty nimbus]

Is an argo mole worth the money?

[glacial dagger]

In terms of buying in verse, absolutly both when used solo/crewed. If buying irl it's still worth it, just be sure to have some friends come join you so it doesn't feel like too much of a sting to your wallet

[dusty nimbus]

Best monetary investment on the site?

[glacial dagger]

Wdym?

[north oyster]

I'm late to the conversation but as a solo Prospector, today I made several runs to the Halo and I'm now waiting on 940K of aUEC to finish being refined. I don't have to share it.

[dusty nimbus]

Like if I get an argo mole is it the best thing to have after resets and is it really more useful than a prospector?

[north oyster]

ROC mining needs some love. When 3.14 rolled out, it pretty much took the profit/time success of ROC mining totally away. Besides other issues, the main problem is that the ping/scan is really messed up for small deposits.

[dusty nimbus]

Thing is I rlly wanted to get a mercury star runner or something of the sort as I wanted to do trade and cargo vs mining but it doesn't seem to be viable at all

[north oyster]

..
Here's a really sharp trading video by Leadnap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoJsSSEd_ws

Trade if viable but it requires more planning and upfront dollars than any other game loop

[north oyster]

MOLE is great to work with teams, as a solo option it does work but you work with extra processes to make it happen. The Prospector is a solo designed miner, so it is the whole package without extra steps to make it work properly like you have with a MOLE. Many players use the MOLE as a solo miner, I just chose to not mess with it in that manner.

As an example, I'm not sure of the number of trips today but at the end of the day I had 10,698 SCU of quantainium being refined (net yield) for a little over 940K aUEC earnings.

[gilded dock]

I can't find my current delivery contract on the starmap

[potent tinsel]

is there a trick to cracking a ‘roid and getting those 100% quant pieces to break off or is it just rng?

[dusty nimbus]

Rng unfortunately

[gilded dock]

my package dropoff point is on top of a random skyscraper in new babbage. every time I try to go near the landing pad at the top, the autopilot yanks me away. if i land near it, I can't find a way to get up to it. what do?

[dusty nimbus]

Idk I wanna upgrade my pledge to a cargo ship because I primarily want to do cargo going forward, does anyone have any ideas as far as ships that serve this purpose go?

[gilded dock]

MISC freelancer, drake caterpillar

[dusty nimbus]

Is a c2 a viable option as well?

[gilded dock]

yeah, at least I think

it's good for physical cargo, meh for trade goods

[marble crater]

C2 is the only trade option right now. Cat isn't bad but still less cargo.
Cargo refactor might change up the C2 meta when cargo loading times have to be considered but who knows how far off that is

[dusty nimbus]

Good to know, I'm still looking, I just want something I will be able to use for more of the industry stuff in the game

[marble crater]

Trade is pretty rough right now where it's hard to fill up on anything with good margins so it's become more about bulk selling cheaper goods

and C2 with 690 SCU does it better than anything else right now

[dusty nimbus]

Yeah but with 3.17 coming out within the next month or so I might straight up buy a starfarer and start running a space gas station

[marble crater]

Not sure who is going to go to a Starfarer to fill up vs a Station when we only have Stanton but it is quite interesting

[dusty nimbus]

isn't second system coming out relatively soon

[marble crater]

Whenever server meshing is in game and works

Could be 6 months, could be 3 years

[dusty nimbus]

Yeah, seems like classis star citizen

Idk I really want something that does industry well in this game but I am stuck on what to get considering I don't really like mining myself hence the argo. But I am going thru the grey market so that I can get a ship that I can use at any time to be my primary ship

[marble crater]

I'd wait till a bit after 3.17 to see what the new options will be.

[dusty nimbus]

Yeah I guess I will since I don't want to waste my money currently

[marble crater]

Cause at the moment, industry is basically mining Quant

[dusty nimbus]

YEah I've come to realize that

[winter flare]

They touched on mining during the conversation with the EU player experience team. They also dislike the current system since there is essentially only a single profitable commodity, quantainium.

Hopefully that'll translate into changes sometime this year.

[winter flare]

Also, Caterpillar is a very viable trading ship. C2 is the highest earner but the Caterpillar isn’t far behind. Besides. It’s a cooler ship too.

But the C2 has better shields and it handles better.

[marble crater]

yeah I have a Cat and enjoy it but currently it's just a downgrade from a C2

[thin escarp]

@dusty nimbus mole forever worth it

properly setup.

I average 700k-775k a run.

I run a team most of the time.

[dusty nimbus]

How much u pay them out?

[ember jolt]

Anyone wanna go mole mining LMK

[thin escarp]

@dusty nimbus equal cuts

[tawny path]

Anyone wanna join mole mining or have room for one?

[thin escarp]

you 18+

[tawny path]

if you are talking to me, yes

[tawny path]

I am mining if anyone wants to join

[thin escarp]

@tawny path sorry just popped back in here

[tawny path]

if anyone has a mole i have 2 40% plus quant rocks

[potent tinsel]

Miners.... did you invest in buying a cargo ship to move refined units regularly or do you just store up your quant then rent a cargo ship and do a bulk move once every few weeks, etc.?

[grave vault]

@ me if someone answers. Been wondering the same thing myself

[marble crater]

invested in a cargo ship as I enjoy the mining/trade side of things

[grave vault]

What would you recomend as a first cargo ship?

[marble crater]

Freelancer Max, Constellation Taurus, Hercules C2 depending on budget

[grave vault]

Ok thanks

[potent tinsel]

hmmm.....i'm considering bumping my pledge ship up to FreeMax for $15.... 🤔

[cyan helm]

When I start out and I'm preparing to gear up towards ship mining, I go for the mining ship first and rent cargo ship. I will purchase a ship eventually though

once I have my hands on a cargo ship, I will also start cargo hauling with it

[grave vault]

What do you find most profitable? mining or cargo hauling?

[cyan helm]

mining is typically more profitable

cargo hauling isn't as mature as it should be.. but it breaks the monotony and is something else to do

you can still make money cargo hauling though.. and normally, once I've built up some floating capital, I will gravitate more to cargo than mining

[grave vault]

Ok

[deep vector]

I have 3-5 haulers, so yes

[dusty nimbus]

can you upgrade an already upgraded ship in the pledge store

[potent tinsel]

yep just keep spending more money lol. ive done it a few times.

[deep vector]

Same

My aurora became fatlancer through all basic ships

[dusty nimbus]

No i mean like can i apply multiple upgrades to a singular ship

[deep vector]

^

One at a time, but yes

[dusty nimbus]

good to know

[north oyster]

It's called the CCU Game, maybe the only truly fleshed out game in Star Citizen. My Titan became a Cutlass Black that become a Freelancer MAX that then became a Constellation Taurus

Chaining CCUs is the art of the game. My chaining was just from progression of what I wanted.

[deep vector]

My aurora became titan than cutty than fatlancer

[gray crag]

When I break a rock with a very good quant percentage into purples. Sometimes they’re not 100% of quantanium, they usually are mixed with quartz or something else. Is there a module that helps me to achieve 100% of quant?

[north oyster]

Only the "inert" filter which won't help with true minerals in the mix. No, you have to depend on the dice gods on how the rock breaks

[gray crag]

Sad! I hope they do a module that helps to filter the minerals too

[cyan helm]

I think I read somewhere that's something the Mole will be able to do.. or maybe in concert with the Raft.. or something to that extent

[dusty nimbus]

I'm doing a search mission, can I do anything with the rest of the boxes I find or just the one it wants me to retrieve?

[north oyster]

When you look in the MOLE, you see hardware infrastructore for more advanced operation, similar to what you see in the StarFarer with salvage. Some of these functions depend upon the cargo refactor and physicalization of all things SC

[north oyster]

In the next patch, there might be more options here. But for now, you do not get enough return for it to be worth your time

[cyan helm]

ah yes, that's probably what led me to search more info on this in the first place

[dusty nimbus]

But the other boxes are physically sellabe?

[north oyster]

some are but you have to go to Grim to sell them

or any of the "ask no questions" terminals

[dusty nimbus]

I gotcha

I really hope they add more in the way of smuggling in the next update considering its focused on trade

[north oyster]

the next build it going to make things go wild, Piracy will enter its first "game play" with being able to loot and sell back to stores. So when they attack and rob, they will actually be able to sell what they have stolen

[dusty nimbus]

Ik it'll probably make the entire cargo aspect of the game a little more fun

[marble crater]

We'll need cargo refactor for that full blown cargo piracy mayhem

[dusty nimbus]

It'll make hiring people an actual need vs basically rp

So Excited tho I am about to get my c2

[dusty nimbus]

I'm about to start just doing cargo runs in the c2 now

[minor wadi]

Hey. New(ish) guy here. Just been mining for a week or so. About to go sell my refined quant in a rented freelancer and should have 3.5M in the bank if I don't screw it up. My question is....spend it on a freelancer max or taurus. Watched a ton of vids and read stuff on reddit and im still 50/50. Anyone got a strong view one way or the other?

[coarse cape]

Taurus is pretty solid imo. You can do bounties in it, has a good amount of scu for cargo and it’s pretty nice for ground fps missions

[vestal seal]

Id recomend just saving for the c2 if youre that close and want a cargo ship

[coarse cape]

Would be nice if the Connie floor table would work

[vestal seal]

But yeah taurus is good for cargo but is a multirole ship so you can do whatever with it

[bleak canopy]

Does the Aurora have a cargo hold that I dont know how to open? Or do I just put stuff in the cabin behind the seat?

[shy crane]

heading over to Lorville....are gases or metals more profitable to sell?

[compact needle]

Behind the seat

[analog osprey]

Any tips for scanning for roc minables in a cutlass black?

[bleak canopy]

Lol, thats it? Just that little 5 foot square?

[analog osprey]

I feel like I only ever come across the huge rocks that the roc can't mine

[compact needle]

Yeah

[bleak canopy]

Lol, thanks

I wont say how long I spent trying to find some kind of cargo holder, but I will tell you that spot under the rear of the hull looks juicy for some kind of cargo attachment

[compact needle]

Stay close to ground
Move slow
Scan constantly
Ignore all scans over 2k meters away because roc minables only appear within 2k meters
Also mine on Ariel, Aberdeen, daymar

[analog osprey]

Omg, thank you so much, that's SUPER helpful!!

[compact needle]

And ignore anything that isn't hadenite (look for purple veins on the rocks)

Hadenite is the most valuable roc minable

[compact needle]

I can't tell if thats sarcastic lol

[analog osprey]

Not sarcastic, im just new and mining is a lot to take in lol 😅

[compact needle]

Lol I just finished roc mining and bought myself a prospector! Lol ship mining is a whole other can of worms

[cursive beacon]

Nice! Now go get that Lancet and the modules and you'll be rollin

[compact needle]

I have, I'm rolling in the dough bow

[north oyster]

I have both ships. I CCU'd my MAX to the Taurus but missed the MAX so much that I bought it in-game. The MAX, to me, is more compact and better suited for things like ROC escort. I have been experiencing issues with the Taurus when landing in Area18 where it doesn't acknowledge the ship landing. While if I land with another ship, it's fine. The Cost per SCU is the best with the MAX. I like both ships, but the MAX is one of my favorites. I also bought the black livery for her, she looks good in Black.

[north oyster]

Doesn't matter the ship, PING/SCAN is messed up for small deposits. Some go fast and low, some go slow and low. I tend to cruise fairly slow and ping often.

[north oyster]

the deposits only show up within 1200 meters (1.2k) I wish it was 2K like it use to be 😦

[analog osprey]

Oof, that is pretty small, so like basically ON the ground then lol

[north oyster]

Welcome to the big league. Your Prospector will be the Goose that lays the golden eggs. Each trip bring in pretty nice dollars.

[north oyster]

Yeah, ROC mining use to be (and still would be) one of my favorite game play loops. But the process needs a little bit of love in its current form. It was 3.14 patch that tanked it as being very profitable. It is still fun and you can make good coin, but much slower now

[minor wadi]

Thanks for the info. How do you rate the taurus for bounty?

[north oyster]

Better than the MAX because of the gun size difference. The MAX is a Brick, but the Taurus doesn't respond like a sports car either.

[minor wadi]

I'm either gonna go max and sentinel or try and use the taurus for hauling refined quant and also BMs to break it up a bit

[north oyster]

I used the MAX originally for ROC escort. So easy to get on and off the ship with the ROC (RORO) and the hydrogen scoops in the MAX were industry best, never had to worry about fuel. The footprint of the MAX would allow access anywhere. The 120 SCU was respectable also.

[minor wadi]

...but the taurus looks so damn good and im wondering if the lower tractor beam turret will impact on loading time positively when the cargo refactor happens

...you can tell which way I'm starting to lean right 🙂

[north oyster]

Absolutely no qualms with the Taurus, she's a fine ship. I have one. The landing issue I'm going to see if I can replicate it and then submit an IC report about it.

[hollow basin]

aberdeen just has 0 fucking gems today

[analog field]

If that's the case try server hopping. Borked servers make em not spawn

[odd lantern]

I’m kinda new to star citizen and looking to do some cargo runs but every trade console I go to in order to buy material doesn’t show my ship so I can’t see any inventory. Am I missing something or is it a bug?

[dusty nimbus]

What is the most productive method as far as trading/ cargo goes rn for money making?

[north oyster]

What ship do you have?

[north oyster]

Here's a website that can help:
https://uexcorp.space/

Also https://sc-trade.tools/home

[north oyster]

Volume is key. So you need to go a large as possible. A C2 or CAT, etc

[cyan helm]

^ and some working capital

[north oyster]

This is one of my favorite refresher courses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxTYWawbvM

[odd lantern]

@north oyster I have the co nomad

[north oyster]

OK, that's about 20ish in SCU? There is a bug that the ship doesn't show on terminals but did you try something simple like Scrap from a TDD?

[odd lantern]

I haven’t tried that yet but I’ll take a look, thanks

[north oyster]

Can't really do trade with such a small ship, but you can learn the principles

Make sure nothing is in the back like a ROC, etc

[finite saffron]

i used a rented cutless black and I could get scrap but on the moons trying to use the trading terminals it wouldnt let me select a ship. the terminal was blank

I could get scrap though at a TDD

[cyan helm]

where's the ship.. where are you.. and what terminal are you trying to use?

[north oyster]

Sell scrap at ARC-L1 or a couple of spots, it is specific

Scrap buyers are: Cru L5, Hur L5, Mic L1, Arc L1

[indigo wolf]

According to a website Clio has the highest Ore Value Index of quantanium is that true. And is it a good place to quant mine?

[river rapids]

Lyria is the moon to hit for quant.

[lilac patio]

whats the best band for quant if im going from arc l1

[cyan island]

have 3 rocks im at, 50%, 30% and 20% quant for sale 100,000, in game name fusioncontrol

any takers

[hollow hornet]

when trading with a FL max, should i bother buying the taurus or just go straight to the c2?

just save up and etcetera?

[cosmic rose]

sooo, roc inside a cave. Is there a benefit? such as faster mining. Can the roc get over that gorge or near the bottom or will it just get stuck.

[thin escarp]

@indigo wolf it's not true

def check out my mining guide pinned in this channel

[indigo wolf]

Ok thanks

[potent tinsel]

miners: I have four finished work order and three in progress. can I keep adding more work orders or do I need to get the completed ones out of there? I thought someone said seven was the limit?

[marble crater]

no limit but game updates like the upcoming 3.17 patch, usually wipe refinery orders

[fiery cosmos]

Looking for work, scouting for a mining outfit.

[junior maple]

Hi. Just got the game, using a 100i ship. I really want to get into trading, but when I arrive at a trading console and press the dropdown button for "select a location", nothing shows. I can't select anything. Am I doing something wrong?

[main ibex]

Is there anyone interested in helping me do mining or trading I can’t afford the mining ship or a ship big enough to do transport missions bc I’m new I’m happy to do most of the work and split the profits with the person

[fiery cosmos]

100i has 2 SCUs of cargo space. Using it for trading to make money is not a viable option.

[junior maple]

Just trying to get used to it, but it's not possible due to the terminal not working for me

[potent tinsel]

still looking for cargo carrying ideas. Freelancer max is cheapest option. Taurus is a step up. Msr is another step up from that but less cargo. Then the C2 is same price range as msr but way more cargo. Any thoughts/opinions?? I don't see using the FreeMax for anything else but hauling due to that cockpit, so if can spend more to get a more useful ship, I don't mind.

[cyan helm]

I would personally consider the Taurus a step up from MSR in regards to cargo, and handles itself a little better when used for Bounties, if desired

[fiery cosmos]

C2 is meta cargo runner. It will also double as a transport carrier for Ballistas, Tanks, Cyclones and Ursa Rovers for events or other ground Ops. If you have the $$ C2 is the way. imo

[cyan helm]

I use a Taurus myself for cargo, it's not a bad ship that retains some versatility for other non cargo work

C2 is a cargo beast

[gleaming stirrup]

I discoverd that's a known bug

anywhere without a pad wont detect the ship

[gleaming stirrup]

read what i just posted as well 🙂

i ran into the same question, so hoping you all don't spend time trying to figure it out as well

[nocturne nacelle]

I just got myself a freelancer max when it hit me

I don't know the first thing about trade. Where do I even start?

[stable lion]

https://sc-trade.tools/

is a good place to start

[nocturne nacelle]

Thanks

[main ibex]

Does anyone know if it’s worth renting the C2 to do trading ???? Never done trading before watched a few videos couple said to rent the C2 for a day and run trade missions

[pallid temple]

You can't rent a C2

[main ibex]

Tf these idiots keep saying u can, any idea on a ship that I can that’s good for trade running

[pallid holly]

renting one of the large haulers like the cutless black is a good start

i don’t think they’re super pricey

[marble crater]

I think the biggest you can rent is the Constellation Andromeda. won't make much trading in it though

[shy crane]

just got my shiny new Prospector.....taking it out for a test run....anywhere I should go first?

[nocturne nacelle]

T-

The

The sun

[potent tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/951150103891161159/957277593340616705/3.15.1-LIVE-Rel1-Refinery_to_Aaron_Halo_Mining_Routes.pdf

[junior maple]

Thanks!! Guess I'll only get to trade at zones with landing pads

[shy crane]

is there a difference in mining big rocks on a planet vs in space?

[hushed roost]

asteroids spawn with a maximum mass of just over 5k so they are all soloable, rocks on moons can spawn up to 8k mass so they aren't always soloable in a prospector

also planetary mining can be cumbersome because the rocks cover each other when broken often

[shy crane]

cool....thanks

[quasi dragon]

basically if you have more than one person mine on lyria

if ur solo go for the belt

[shy crane]

if you eject cargo can you choose what to eject or is it all or nothing?

[quasi dragon]

it will eject all

[shy crane]

I'm at Arc -L1......I'm new to mining so I'll ask the obvious...is there any reason NOT to just mine rocks that are very close to the station? I know that's not where quantonium is but....

[hushed roost]

quantanium sells for twice as much, prospector mining is all about finding the highest quality rocks, not the largest quantity

i suggest looking up a guide on youtube for a more in depth explanation

[shy crane]

yeah.....guess I'm just a little nervous about the whole "blowing up" thing....

[fiery cosmos]

Everyone was nervous when they first started mining Quant. It will pass. Plus the ship will give you warnings when the Quant is becoming unstable enough to actually blow. Just make sure you break the whole rock up first before you start picking anything up and you'll be fine. If mining Lyria jump to Arc-L1, if you want to mine the Halo I suggest using Cru-L1.

[shy crane]

do you refine quant or just sell the ore?

[fiery cosmos]

Refine it. BUT The 3.17 patch is approaching quickly and word around town is you may lose orders that are in the refinery. Refine at your own risk until 3.17 drops.

I personally have decided to use other avenues of income until 3.17

[shy crane]

but you're talking about work orders that take days right?

[fiery cosmos]

I'd advise using Ferron (12-24hrs) dependent on the size of the order. Dynix is the other option to consider if time is not a consideration

[north oyster]

@thin escarp How do we get this pdf pinned?

[north oyster]

Just mine any and everything so that you can learn the process. It is a game loop that isn't complicated but does require a few hours in the cockpit to get down pat. Once you are comfortable with the whole process, then a focus on quantainium is (at this time) the most profitable course. A full 32SCU in the Prospector of Quantainium is about 275K aUEC.

[north oyster]

3.17 going LIVE won't be "fast" nor soon, per se. It even gone to open PTU yet (not stable enough). But you are right, when rumors begin to talk about it going LIVE, then it is time to clear your refinery jobs and not stack them

[shy crane]

thanks...that's useful info.....don't want to keep bugging with questions but how to you get a full 325SU of Quant without interts, etc..... does it ever come in pure like that and not mixed?

[north oyster]

it's totally a random thing if someone gets a pure load

The % of the rock/asteroid has to be large enough to give 100% chucks to fill the Prospector

[shy crane]

ok....I'll take the advice and just practice for a while

[north oyster]

Here's some ore values

I would say, remove the gimble and guns off your ship (they consume power that you can use for your laser) as that they are worthless anyway. The lancet is the only laser head you need for now (Size ONE, don't do like me and buy the wrong size the first time).

Any questions, let us know. You will find that the Prospector is the Goose that lays the Golden Eggs because you can earn to buy anything you want in game with her

[shy crane]

ok....I think I'm a ways away from that level of detail....but I'll get there...thanks 🙂

[north oyster]

Do you have a cargo size ship? At least Cutlass Black or larger?

[shy crane]

Freelancer Max

[north oyster]

oh, love the MAX, she's a great ship

I did have to spend a few real world dollars to dress her in Black

[shy crane]

lol....I'm getting ready to do just that as well

enjoyed the orange and white...but it's time for a change

[north oyster]

Love how she looks in the black livery. Plus she is the best ship for ROC mining because of the wide ramp and easy size to get in to tight spots on planets

[shy crane]

I Kickstarted the original....spent the $$ to upgrade....no regrets

[north oyster]

that's awesome. I started with the Titan the started playing the CCU game up to the MAX, then eventually the Taurus. But missed the MAX so I bought her in-game

[potent tinsel]

why did you choose to go back to max after taurus? curious cause i’m trying to decide on a cargo ship. taurus handles more cargo so i’m wondering what it was about the max that drew you back.

grim, scanning rocks is a buggy skill all in itself so check the pins in this channel for some good starter info.

[north oyster]

I like both of them but the MAX is more compact and the best value of SCU to aUEC. The Taurus is also a great ship but not so adapt for other rolls like ROC mining. I have had landing issue with the Taurus in Area18 where the pad doesn't acknowledge me landing. I need to do an IC bug report on that.

[potent tinsel]

ok thx for sharing. i’m really struggling with how much I want to invest in either a pure cargo ship or a larger multi role that can hold cargo too like the msr.

[north oyster]

True Cargo Ship would be on the level of C2 and CAT. Cargo is going to change in a huge way this year but for now these two own the waves

[potent tinsel]

well true but those are overkill for my weekly quant runs lol

for now….

[north oyster]

ah, ok, just delivery cargo for mining. I got ya

[shy crane]

so my work order is complete - but the collect button is not active...

[north oyster]

when you click the collect, you need to use the mouse wheel to scroll down

It might not see your ship

go retrieve your ship then stow it again. That way you know the station see it. Especially if you just claimed it there

[shy crane]

ok...starting to get the picture now.....so it's probably a good thing to load up enough work orders to fill your cargo hold before making the trip to sell....how long will a refinery hold orders once they are processed?

[potent tinsel]

ive heard that there is no time limit but haven't tried longer than two days myself. Obligatory warning about not leaving work orders stored for upcoming 3.17 as they can be/will be/might be lost.

[thin escarp]

3.17 will probably wipe

refinerys

other than patches they stay

[wheat sandal]

Would it be good for one to rent 3 ROCS, put them in a c2 and go mine somewhere

[fiery cosmos]

No

[wheat sandal]

So ROC mining is shit now?

[flat phoenix]

Rather C2 would prolly do better doing just commodity trading. You can haul 3 ROC's in cutlass. No need for C2

Mind you that you can only spawn 3 vehicles at the time, so spawning 3rd roc would despawn the C2. Unless some of those ROCs belong to your friends.

[wheat sandal]

ah

[wintry mango]

About ROC mining

[flat phoenix]

So its not that you cannot do it, it's just not ideal option. Also when taking into account the ship emissions, C2 will light up on radar like xmas tree, thus easy for pirates to find you.

[wintry mango]

How slow should you fly with the cutty?

[flat phoenix]

Altitude probably matters more than the speed. Fly low and keep eye out for the scannables.

[wintry mango]

I should look for diamond symbols instead of the normal right?

[flat phoenix]

Yes and no, I think the diamonds do show up as normal radar contacts, until the certain distance.

Don't quote me on that thou, been while since I have done ROC mining myself.

[wintry mango]

Yes, but when i get into the 1500m it should change to diamond symbols right?

[flat phoenix]

I have no answer for that, hopefully someone with up to date information shows up for that.

[wintry mango]

Can you open the ship door from the ROC?

[flat phoenix]

Nope. But would be fun if we had remote access to ship via mobiglass, maybe something like wifi password lol.

[wintry mango]

Theres a door button tho

Btw, now that i found a mining spot the ROC wont move

Any tip on how to get it to work again?

[wintry mango]

Seems the roc was damage in transit somehow

[indigo wolf]

Around 115-140

[wintry mango]

Do i need to do something when i put the ROC into the cutty? Mine wouldnt start once i found something to mine

[indigo wolf]

Your ROC wouldn’t start?

[wintry mango]

yeah

and couldnt move the mining arm

Could activate mining mode tho

Trying to re-claim it at the moment

[indigo wolf]

Yeah I would do that probably a bug

[wintry mango]

Because i dont need to do anything more than back it up into the storage?

Btw, can you transfer the items in the ROCs measly storage into the ship?

[lilac patio]

is mining in the halo good from arc l1

ive heard good things about band 1 but that is so far away

currently mining on lyria

[indigo wolf]

Yes

[indigo wolf]

I prefer Lyria

Band 4 is probably the best in the Aaron halo in my opinion

[wintry mango]

Seems to be the general agreement

And if you want the full list, check https://cornerstonebase.space/login/articles/articles/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes-3-14-0-live-rel1-2

Lyria is better, but requires help or good use of modules, and have a risk of pirates.

[twilit ice]

I’m gonna push for a prospector and start quantinium mining 😁

[vapid tusk]

any idea what would prevent me from selling raw ore at the ore sales terminal?

[quasi dragon]

a bug

[vapid tusk]

is 1 cscu = 1 scu?

ah 100 cscu = 1 scu thanks

[lean oyster]

Do we know when 3.17 is dropping? I dont want to do long refining jobs if its soon

[cyan helm]

still got a few weeks atleast

evocati's currently running 3.17 in the PTU.. after which you normally have about 3-4 weeks of subscriber/pledge PTU testing. So I'd say at minimum until mid April, likely more, before 3.17 makes it to the PU

[lean oyster]

tyvm

[cyan helm]

np

[tawny path]

Should I buy the c2, cat or starfarer? Decisions decisions

[ocean vine]

i have had the game about a week, have made 1.2mil currently... looking for someone with a prospector that would be willing to help me mine.... i can also help them break bigger rocks. i will rent a prospector. HMU if your interested!

[marble crater]

Starfarer refuel gameplay looks cool but won't really have a use outside of long events (eg Xeno) or until Pyro is in game

[cyan helm]

hmm.. Starfarer @ the Jericho would be hella practical

specially if rearming was added

[peak fern]

Any tips for solo pros mining on moons? I'm having issues cracking the bigger 5200+ rocks.

Been playing about a month but still fairly new to pros mining. I'm pretty familiar with belt mining, just not moon mining. I know they're more meant for group mining, but can it be done? I have a helix head right now, seems to put more power out.

[night stirrup]

anyone know hwere to find the most cupt to date shipping routes

[tawny path]

Looking for scouts for mining

[sacred loom]

I dont know about Helix head but I was told to run a Lancet mining head mate. 5.2k would be ok On the Lancet But much larger u will need to use modules like surge and stampede

[deep vector]

5122 is max on lancet without modules. Biggest size found in halo.

Above it’s start to be tricky

And luck dependent

I managed to crack 6k once, but pure luck, instability literally pushed me in green in like 40 seconds

[indigo wolf]

I was almost able to get a 7k rock without modules just takes a long time

[sacred loom]

u can do well over 7k with double surge and stampede on the Lancet

[urban sky]

when salvaging comes will there be a light salvagers

[deep vector]

I can’t imagine what vulture will salvage

12 scu of cargo

[urban sky]

bruh the vulture looks like the starter miner from EVE

[exotic burrow]

hey guys im here at hur l2 bc the wiki says you can get the rieger c-3 modules here but i cannot for the life of me find them

[sacred loom]

http://finder.cornerstonebase.space/

@exotic burrow use this site mate

mining, then into modules

[exotic burrow]

right but where specifically on hur l2, do you know? i was in the mining shiop and the only displays i can find are for clothing and ship rentals

[crisp bison]

on clothing terminal, scroll to the right on top of the screen

new tab will appear with mining stuff

[exotic burrow]

omg that is so dumb, i cant believe i didnt try that. thank you so much

[sacred loom]

Thought that might be the case but wondered if wiki put u wrong also

[deep vector]

We all fallen into this once at least

[exotic burrow]

haha they got my ass for sure, wont let that happen again

[crisp bison]

I actually saw it in a youtube vid, had no idea either lol

Its not intuitive, no arrows or anything indicating it is scrollable

[subtle cradle]

What is the best place to mine in the halo and how do I get there?

[tawny path]

band 4 or 6

[deep vector]

The best is one that works for you well

I personally go for 5 because of density

Seen people praise 1

So just pick your own favorite

[hollow sedge]

They want to push it in PTU this week if i'm not mistaking

[deep vector]

They said it

Wave 1 this week

[heady echo]

so I’m new, how do I get started with mining

[brazen thistle]

Ok, so i bought my prospector recently, bought lancet head and went out to the roids belt to mine. After a 1 hour i found only 1 roid that has only 2% quant... So i kept searching but other than that, nothing. Is that normal? I guesa not, soo any tips how to be more successful in finding quant rocks? 🤔

[crisp bison]

I find it depends on the band you are in, use this: https://cornerstonebase.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[potent tinsel]

it is def rng so that's pretty unlucky. unfortunately that is how it goes sometime, but when you do hit one, it makes it worthwhile. you're constantly spamming Tab and check out every cloud cluster? 1 quant rock in an hour is super low. try a different band ^

[crisp bison]

I've found a good quant rock each time within 30 mins in band 2 from CRU-L1 to ARC-L3 for example

[deep vector]

If for 30 minutes nothing decent- hop server. Eventually you will learn how to understand if server is healthy

[brazen thistle]

all right. i was disappointed yesterday. i wanted just to find one rock before i went to sleep... i thought it will be like 30 mins or so 😄 Thanks for tips. i will try tonight again.

[sacred loom]

@brazen thistle should never take longer than 30 mins. U don't necessarily need to change server, Just jump small distances inside the Halo and scan away

Also make sure you have your scanner set to 180 degrees using the '.' key in game. Cruise pretty fast and keep scanning

[deep vector]

It really helps to jump the server staying in same band

Had log in and founding two 40% in 20 seconds in front of me

Lol

[wintry mango]

How does the rocks in game work? If i fly away to get my miner and fly back, will they risk being despawned as noone was there?

[brazen thistle]

from my understanding they should not despawn as ppl use boxes from delivery missions to mark locations to get back later.

[wintry mango]

Ohhh, you can abuse mission boxes for that?

Do you get a QT marker on them also?

[brazen thistle]

you can yes... but not sure about QT ... probably not. 😦 but i didint try myself

[north oyster]

Go to Band 1 of the Halo, it isn't densely populated but I find the ratio of Quan to be top notch. Two trips the other day for 500K aUEC. Bands 4 and 6 are also pretty good.

I've not been as lucky as immortalfox, but I have been consistent in find plenty of hits.

Important note about mining the Aaron's Halo, the scans not working if very server dependent. So if you are getting tons of duds and can't scan, you can jump about 20k Km and try again, if still bad, then maybe jump servers.

[dusty nimbus]

Is roc mining viable at all?

[brazen thistle]

yea till today i didint know about any bands so i will take a look later tonight what it is and how to find it 😄 and then i will try my luck again.

[brazen thistle]

it take longer but you can make money with it.

full ROC of best gems is worth around 260k but it depends on your luck how quickly you can fill it up.

[dusty nimbus]

Like If I load a ROC-DS into my starlifter then just fly around a planet?

[brazen thistle]

i was talking about basic ROC... DS is for 2 ppl. its doable solo but you would need to switch seats every time you want to mine. and it has much much bigger cargo... longer you are out there, bigger the chance something will go wrong or get bugged. but basically yes. you want to fly low... below 1km ping often and look for squares tahat are still squares at 4km. those will be minable with ROC. Bigger rock will show as rocks, not squares from big distance.

[dusty nimbus]

So I have to find someone to mine for me

Any recommendations for upgrades on it

[north oyster]

ROC mining works but it needs love. When CIG released 3.14 the issue that the scan/ping doesn't let you see any deposits unless you are within 1200 meters. So you have to be very sharp to find them. Other small issues exist also. Overall, you can earn good coin with ROC mining but the rate of earnings is now much slower.

[brazen thistle]

if you dont have friend you want to do it with, i would rather recommend to buy basic version and try it for yourself first. fill up that smaller cargo will already took you quite some time. As for upgrading ROC. i ve been told you cant change mining head for better one... and other components doesnt really matter.

[north oyster]

Using a C2 to go mining is an expensive overkill. I would suggest a smaller ship

The DS version was just a chance to raise funds. I would recommend the regular ROC before the DS

You can rent the ROC for about 4K or buy for about 172K at New Deal

I love ROC mining and I use the Freelancer MAX as the escort for the ROC.