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just flew to hur l1 to buy lancets and they are not at the refinery center... fml
mouse scroll on the top tab at the Mining Shop Terminal
just dont... prospector is just crap right now. but if you have one already, then
lancet, surge, surge, stampede.
what's wrong with the Prospector?
the helix mining heads got nerf. now the helix cant do anything more than 5 tons cuz of the instability. Even with brandt module, it will either be stable but weaker than lancet, or strong enough but loses surge for brandt slot
not sure how that makes the Prospector crap though
Yep
Prospector isn't crap lol
It can break the same rocks as a solo mole pilot can afaik
Wait when did they nerf prosp? I've had zero issue
Can get a full quant load from a roc in the belt with zero issue
@mighty vapor cross has a guide with a few builds it's what i use
Hey guys,is aphorite worth mining at all?
Not really no
Lemme rephrase that lol. It's only worth like 150 each where as hada is 275 each
ah,ok... just found a huge bunch of it is all
hello miners!
Hey been away for some time. did anything changed about ROC mineable scanning? Or it's still fly low/slow and pray for having luck?
Sadly, a whole lot has changed with scan and ping. It's pretty ugly right now for ROC mining
After 3.14, ROC mining got regulated to "yeah, it works .. sort of" pile
The mining heads are in the clothing terminal. At the top you have to scroll to reveal the "Utility" section. You can buy mining heads and modules there. I really is hidden...just poor design.
couldn't agree more
I'd say grab it since you see it. Finding deposits is such a pain that it "almost" (stress almost) makes mining dolvine tempting. But not that bad YET
yeah so no improvement then... going back to space-hibernating xD
As related to ROC mining, yeah, she needs some love. Prospector mining is premium atm but I see 3.17 breaking some stuff with the new add-ons. I'm pretty confident they are going to nix the Lancet's meta role for quan mining, etc. Hopefully I am way off base with my speculations though, it would be sad.
thanks for the answer. I figured it out eventually. That design REALLY is not intuitive at all. Would have never figured it out without outside help
Neither did I, when i came back to SC after a year away, had to google it, really poor choice by CIG to hide the mining heads in the clothing terminal
Agreed 100%, I haven't check IC but there should at least "arrows" or some clue that there is more to the menu
one of many things in UIs throughout the verse that need rework
Keep hearing rumors about the Mobi and starmap rework. Lots of stuff, all of it Soon(TM) right?
popular word, that one 🙃
but srsly, I really hope they replace that flash-based disaster we use as 'map' in the near future
The building blocks are solid and they are working through all the old flash stuff to convert it. It is such a breath of fresh air each time when that happens
it is indeed
Should I upgrade the QT drive for the prosp
There are advantages to doing that. The Atlas is a good balance between speed and range
If you're going to be travelling between planets a lot, yes, if you intend to stay in one area, not really
yeah that is a good option, I use Voyage
eats a bit more Q fuel i know 🙂
I got the Siren originally (second fastest available) but I often drop out of QT into the Halo. Because of the speed, it made it hard to hit my target drops and the fuel efficiency was horrid. The Atlas is a fantastic balance but I also found I needed to upgrade my power plant too. The Voyage might be a better option
that's a good option if you are planet side, just simple changes can drastically reduce your signature.
stealth modules don't really change EM this patch which is a bit dull
I always seemed to have a little bit of a power issue when I tried those methods
yes, that's the first thing I do also. I remove the gimbals and guns
God I am having 0 success with mining
planet mining? if so, have you tried in the Aaron Halo?
What type of mining? Prospector? ROC?
I've also had days, when pickings were slim
Prospector
Where?
and I am at Hur l3
tis the life of a mining pilot, ups and downs
I did a search of Band 1 last night and had fantastic luck. Got two full 32 SCU of Quan right off the bat.
From Hur-L1 I will have to look up the drop out point
had good fortunes two days ago in band 5 as well
Band 1 is pretty small, so it is easy to miss it
Yesterday I got nothing within 2 hours
Band 7 had lots of hits but not so much Quan, Band 6 was pretty good and also Band 5
If you search for 15 minutes without any Quan hits (regardless of % in rock) then you need to jump about 20K Km or so and try again. But I would recommend getting the document on the Bands and working those
Well I spend the first hour search aarons halo
but the whole band from Cru l1 to arc l3 were empty
completely empty
I've been having alot of good runs from ARCL1
I had an issue yesterday where all the Asteroids VANISHED on me. It was bizarre. I even jumped servers and got the same experience
yeah i had that
the belt was completely empty
but only between those two points
for some reason
That certainly was a server issue then
I was right in the middle of doing a ping when the whole asteroid belt just "turned off" and I was in empty space, LOL
your scan ping turned into doomsday ray, and wiped everything 🙃
That was my first thought, LOL
oddly enough the scannable asteroids were still there but I was afraid I would run into invisible asteroids
yeah, not advisable to navigate between invisible rocks
I set my speed limited on the Prospector to the default range (right at 150km/h) and then decouple. I ping as I go and then drift towards returns that I want to scan. After you get within 2500m you can do a scan. If I find a pair or group, I sometimes wait until I get within 900 or so meters then stop and scan with the Laser mining rig. I find it to be faster and more dependable than the scan. @open plaza
I do that as well, scan the rock with the mining head out
Will do that then
thanks
damn i just found a 9 asteroid cluster
and not a single one wiht quant
I hate mining
This just hasn't been enjoyable at all
Mining is a good way of just passing time and chilling with friends without worrying about making millions
does anyone have a ship i can join?
I hear that Evocati might get a patch to test for 3.17. I hope we can hear a little more about the mining toys that are coming
Sorry to hear that, I do hope you find what you enjoy in game. My rule of thumb is, "if you're not having fun, you're done"
I like the gameplay itself just find stuff sucks
Maybe I'll try mining with someone else and get some help
Because I feel like I am doing something wrong
Hook up with @thin escarp and his team. They run a monster operation that is a lot of fun and energy, Plus you earn good coin

is there a reliable list of where to buy mining stuff? erkul games seems to have inaccurate info on mining heads at least
Are you making sure to scroll to the hidden menu on the terminals with the mouse wheel?
yes
scroll the mouse wheel
there's an additional tab
oh my
super unintuitive by CIG
Live im at crul1, what is the best place to sell quant
I know orison but it soo slow to exit the atmosphere
I sell at arccorp, but Hurston seems like it would be good.
park (store) the ship with refined ore at orbital, claim a smaller ship if you have one, then fly down to the city
I think that only applies if you are using a large hauler for the most part, which is not needed for quant.
true
Id never carry more than 1 mil at a time, because SC.
will quant blow up in storage?
not once refined.
whats the best port to refine it in?
but SC will blow up whatever the hell it wants whenever it wants, so I try to limit my risk to carrying two to four loads at a time.
I just use the port closest to my fav mining spot.
blow up how? like 30ks?
30k is just one of the many SC tricks. It might decide to throw you out of the ship, detonate upon walkign down the ramp, slapping into the side of the planet out of QT, getting stuck in QT, invisible bay doors, it is very creative.
So, limit your load to what your willing to loose 🙂
same with hauling
CUR-L1 is the refinery with the best bonus for Quant refining
oh fun i havent seen most of those bugs.. but i havent played much in a yaer
To be honest, they dont happen much at all any more, except when they do 🙂
So risk wise, ill carry about 1 mil worth, nothing will prob happen, but it is not the end of the world if it does kinda thing.
Hover the mouse over the tabs when you have the terminal opened
then scroll
good god man
so the helix is a good primary and lancet is a good secondary laser for a mole?
and modules are not consumed? its just something you turn on and off?
depends on a module, and a lot of them are passive, they need no toggling
are you in a mole or prosp?
mole
you'll have to wait for a mole owner to reply, I'm just a prosp pilot 🙂
paging mr @thin escarp for help
Lancet is the meta for Quantainium, the Helix's usefulness was nerfed hard with delayed controls, decreased green zone, etc.
Helix is still the most powerful, but it can't do Quan without lots of luck and stress. If you're running a MOLE with two miners, then you are golden. The Helix with the added buff of the Lancet will rock all day long (iirc).
Quick Q, what is currently the best cargo to trade? I usually go for Gold as I can guarantee I can fill a hold with it, but the returns atm aren't that great
cargo running isn't the best activity profit-wise in the current version, so I've been told
Ok, I didn't have much luck when I tried mining a while back, what is that like?
usually the (not being smart) is the one available. I think Titanium, gold, diamonds and astertine are good options.
What ship are you running?
what mining did you try? with a ROC or in a ship?
this is a great overview, one of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxTYWawbvM
EDIT: Currently CIG is smart and disabled all of Scrap. Do NOT buy scrap. There is no available port to sell.
EDIT: There is a mistake on the Astatine table for the MSR. The proper values should be Buy in: 79,800, Profit: 22,800, Profit Per Hour: 68,400. I had an incorrect decimal throwing off values and I apologize for the confusion.
With 3.1...
Jack covers all size ships and routes
Prospector
okay my moles outfitted.. anyone wanna go do a test run with me? ill give you 50% of whatever we make
I do my quant hunitng in Aaron belt, it's been pretty good for me
I tried Quant mining, ended up blowing up a few times
Be sure to get the publicaiton on locating the Belts inside of Aaron's Halo
you gotta outfit your lasers for it
granted, there are days when the pickings are slim, but such is the rng
Go for the Lancet laser head, only 20K expense
Ok
Band One in the Halo was excellent last night
also, I'm not overly burdened with making max profits, I'm a casual player, I take what I get
Also, mining Bexilite, laranite, and some of the other ores provide decent return also
Suggestions for a good starter cargo ship?
Doing mining and want something better than my cutlass to run the cargo with
But also not looking to spend 5mill on a caterpillar or C2
MAX for best price to SCU capacity. C2 is really the only way to go
MAX is only little over 2M with 120 SCU
Taurus is over 3M
Then I would recommend the MAX for that role
Anyone else having issues at arc-l1 ? I’ve spawned outside in my ship three times this week
What publication?
Cheers
whoever put that together deserves a reward
Can you swap the mining head of a rental?
no
on an unrelated topic, your profile pic is that of the officer Crabtree from Alo Alo, right?
Good Moaning
I had a quant rock that wouldn’t scan. Gave it a tap with my mining laser and it instantly exploded. My ship is alive but won’t move. Any thoughts on how to reset my ship to get moving?
tried cycling power?
Ya I tried that. My Mfds are off but my hud is working
I encountered an issue in my Vanguard during XT that sounds similar
No MFDs, no power, no engines
Ships didn't look damaged either
hm, try getting out of your seat and back again?
Ya I have no exterior damage
Anyone want some quant?
The rock I was mining always a 5000 32% rock. The piece that wouldn’t scan was the good piece. There is a 7000 mass rock 26% right next to me
Oh well I’ll just relog and claim. Wasted time
Can I mine quantanium with a rented prospector
And if not what’s the best way to save up to get one
Do you sell the raw Quant or refine first then sell?
Ok then what’s the best strat to get to enough money for a prospector
@sage kernel I have a mining guide pinned in this channel with loadouts and more
@hollow sedge I'd go the roc route
or find a mining group
Thanks
Looking for the Lancet MH1 mining head, I'm at ARC-L1 but the refinery shop doesn't have it
But it's on the "where to buy thing"
Go to the terminal and then at the top use your mouse wheel to scroll over to utility
Oh ok
There are more options at the mining shop terminals then will fit at the top like armor and weapons and stuff
Excellent UI chaps
No kidding I did the same thing flying around a different stations trying to find the stupid thing
There’s no even indication that there are more options like arrows on either side
@minor moon I always choose ferron exchange and dinyx solventation for refining btw
the rest are trash
Cheers
I always do Dinyx. Three loads a day and I sell after three days. Rinse repeat
I’ve started alternating three days on Lyria in three days in the Halo. These three days on Lyria have not been kind to me
I have the money for the mole I just need to do some group mining first before I want to pilot a crewed mining ship
so this is the second 'quantanium looking' rock that i cant scan.. this shit is happening again?
Happens all the time. I don’t even slow down for them if I can’t scan it. If I encounter two clusters where I can’t scan I just quantum a little bit further and try again. That’s anecdotal but it has worked for me
I found on planets you can hang around for a little bit and eventually get them to scan but no Amount of hanging around gets the rocks in the halo to scan if they don’t
Hmmm, doesn't seemt to want to scan
Does anyone know if we have gotten any hard numbers on the SCU cap on the Hull-A yet?
Ain't getting a scan
How profitable is group mining?
@minor moon might be time to server hop
@hollow sedge depends on the group. And how they split pay
if you get good rocks you average 200k a ship so if you keep it going pretty good payout
I found some Quant, mined it
It was a good amount I think, filled most of my cargo hold
Once I refine this lot I'll be done for the evening
What do I select for storage option?
Nvm
Can you que up multiple orders or do you have to wait for the previous one to finish?
You can do as many as you want
Oh cool
@minor moon I have had as many as 53 brewing
looking for 1-2 for mole mining
in a mole should I fly for clusters/twins or should we be checking every rock?
Mining Crew Voice comms open, New Guys OK, will help with questions, etc.
clusters/twins, any box 10k or above
How do I do cargo contracts
ask on comms, to much to type
When do you usually mine? I wont be able to play the next few days but after that
would be cool if I could just tag along
Does anyone have advice for more quickly separating Q-type asteroids from others when scanning?
in the belt
Band 1 in Aaron's Halo for me was unreal with the amount of Quantainium hits. Now the server didn't like me so the dice roll was mostly always low %, but the potential for awesome it there. Got 3 100% Quan runs in a short timeframe. Fortunately the server was healthy
Normally the asteroids in tighter groups tend to be Quan. However, for asteroids and scanning, the health of the server you are on is paramount
But don't skip single asteroids either, I have found two 47% quant rocks floating all by them selves.
I wish the scan was as effective as the mining laser scan. Because the class of asteroid pops up so quick with it
In 3 trips today I made over 820K aUEC from Band One of the belt
It's a very skinny band, but worth the effort. Of all the bands I've researched, this one has gotten me the most excited
I've been testing band 6, I was using 3 and 5 on someone's recomendation
I've had good luck with Band 6
band 6 has been good so far. I'm not sure if there is really a difference between bands or if its just luck
Band 4 wasn't terrible
Just do a short scan of Band 1 and let me know what you think
humans are terrible at dealing with randomness
I kid you not, the first 3 pairs I came across were all Quantainium. It blew my mind. Of course I got ugly dice rolls but the potential is there. My last big hit was a pair where one didn't scan at all
As a recovering analytical I still try to superimpose a pattern inside the maelstrom of randomness
I'll give band 1 a try tomorrow when I play again.
Good luck and Good mining
Did a lot in 4 never took more than 15 minutes to find a good rock
I always sell at area18 but I need to go to lorville. Does lorville buy quant?
And yet we developed rngesus
Yurp they do as well
The price is not as good I believe
I've always sold to loreville. The couple of % is worth ease of sale to me
Soo luckyy
Ya it was super lucky two good rocks right on top of each other. I kept getting a warning that my shields were overheating not sure what that’s about
@tawdry glade that happens when theres not enough power to the shields on bigger ships for some reason.
@tawdry glade ship coulda took some minor dmg during cracking. which the power is right below the mole.
i noticed that sometimes it happens and then i have to overclock the power of the ship
so it has enough 😄
Can you just upgrade your plant? Or does it matter
Hey guys. So any tips where i can use my ROC for mining? Im just starting out
I know i should look out for hadanite,but where should i look?
Aberdeen or Arial around Hurston
Read the upcoming patch notes. Really loving the fact we're getting mining gadgets to use with rocks that are 50/50 un-scanable still 😂
The unscannable issue (primarily an issue in Aaron's Halo) is directly related to the health of the server. Good server = very few duds. If you log in and all the NPCs are frozen in the station, then it might not be a fun day mining.
Yeah, I just find it funny that we’re getting new tech for a game loop that’s quite broken. Doesn’t make for good tests 😂
The bug will eventually get squashed, it's an annoyance but not a game breaker.
Any recommended planets / moons for ROC mining? Spent about 5 hours today combing through MT, Hurston and Daymar. Found only one node.
Adding features in a sandbox demo isn't a bad thing
Arial and Aberdeen
You will need the Pembroke armor
These two moons have the highest density of hadinite in the system
Perfect. I’ll check them out in the morning. Any specific hemisphere to focus on?
Not really, but I would suggest that you dive down to the planet service from orbital marker number one (OM-1) because it is always daylight under that marker
That’s true. I’ve taken to treating the bug like a little lore. Scanners broken 😂
I often switch to mining mode because sometimes it works when the default ship scanner fails
But most often, a dud is a dud.
The server health is 100% a factor on scanning duds
is there any difference between the first two prospector loadouts (in the guide i linked) for the max rock mass that can be broken
what pages is that on? Because there is min/max load for the MOLE and also for the Prospector.
I found it, pg 7, let me look
I think the max crack from those options are pretty darn the same because the only difference is the Focus and FLTR-L
Speed of harvest verses quality of harvest is the key here
im going to get the fltr then
the torrent modules look a bit useless maybe i should replace one of them with the focus from the 2nd loadout
to have a focus - torrent - fltr loadout
I use option 3 version, I don't use any passive modules at all at this time
sadly these modules are consumable
theres workaround
dont ping after it turns from box to rock, just scan
get close before
laranite isn't what will work for you. The golden days of the Laranite rush is over and never coming back (except maybe in the PTU). You will want to look at commodities that are more abundant. I would recommend Jack Axton's refresher course on trade. I will like it in just a minute
i have a small ship (the avenger) so i’m not sure if I can do cargo at all
Not really, trade isn't an option for that level unless you are running contraband
yeah that’s kinda what I thought i’m just looking to make some money
kinda new i made 200k i’m Jt but I could barely get on
from*
The Titan is a rock solid ship and can do multi-roles
Bounty Hunting might be what you look at next
yeah that was my second option lol
Unfortunately doing box deliveries is a little challenged but it is there as a way to earn. After that, BH is the next best thing. Mining is a solid earner, but that requires a little more to get into. The smallest mining setup would be the Cutlass Black with a ROC miner. You can rent both but right now the ROC mining has some challenges that makes earning with it a little more cumbersome
@eager root , There is a mining team that you can work with that will teach you mining and you can earn good coin. If interested, hook up with @thin escarp and he will fill you in.
every saturday aswell I run a massive scale mining operation. 25-45 people. 5-9 moles.
usually mine 14-20 million.
EDIT: Currently CIG is smart and disabled all of Scrap. Do NOT buy scrap. There is no available port to sell.
EDIT: There is a mistake on the Astatine table for the MSR. The proper values should be Buy in: 79,800, Profit: 22,800, Profit Per Hour: 68,400. I had an incorrect decimal throwing off values and I apologize for the confusion.
With 3.1...
sorry I had to go run some errands
is using the roc in a connie taurus worth?
What is the best place to mine quant
the astroid belt im pretty sure
yeah
ROC mining has great potential, however the scan/ping is problematic at the moment. A full ROC is worth over 250K with hadanite - which you find on very hot areas. So Arial and Aberdeen is where you want to search. I would also recommend to dive down to the surface from OM-1. On a moon it is a short trip. The reason is that these mark the North Pole and it is Always daylight under OM-1
You will need the Pembroke armor set also.
Thank you so much and what is the pembroke armor set
This is a specific amour set designed for very hot environments
You will look like the StayPuff Man
The amour is listed in the Undersuit category and don't forget the helmet. You can find it a most every Lagrange point mining store
yep, that's it. Helmet also about the same price
Okay roger
Tysm
So i should mine hadanite
then do i refine it or do i just sell
Only hadanite. They are gems and do not require refining.
Sweet
You can sell them at any outpost or admin office
you bet, good luck. You will need to fly low and slow because the ping for the gems only show up within 1,200 meters
roger
Dolovine is trash but can be good practice. The other gem (don't recall name) is ok, but worth about half of hadanite
okay
Im going to try to stick to just hadanite
I have a little experience mining in a mole with a friend but im a noob so i just hit what he says lol
If you want to learn more, hook up with @thin escarp , his teams meet on the weekend they run a huge operation. You'll learn and earn good coin. Hook up with him if interested
AYYYYYE will do homie
so.. .i've now twice tried to sell my hadanite and other "gems" at Trade terminal in Admin's... not working.... is it only specific stations or what the heck is going on?
Maybe try to sell it at the trade districts consoles in A18 or Loreville instead of admin office?
Hello there, i'm new to mining, watched 100 mining videos, but I still have a problem : whenever I pull up to an asteroid cluster that appears on my scan, I cannot scan them further to see what's their composition, and I can't mine them either. It makes for a really non-efficient journey thus far!
Thats a known bug. You're right in that it really hampers the efficiency of mining overall.
Oh well ok! I rented a prospector for the first time and I find it hard to make money rn!
I'm going to rent a prospector, to try and make money, I don't feel comfortable jumping straight into quantianium, does anyone have any suggestions for where to go and what to mine?
don't rent
Just did that for the first time, went in the asteroid belt (check aaron halo mining routes) and I'm mining Bexalite to get the hang of it
Why?
you can make 175k a run in the roc
you won't make anything ina rental prospector
it's awful
I'll be on late tonight doin mole runs and all tmr
Is that an invite?
I always need crew
Oh well hmu too if you have room 🙂
usually running several mole teams a night
I don't know what tmr or hmu is but I'm down to clown, have someone show me the ropes, because I'm totally green to this game.
hmu is hit me up haha
ahh it's 3pm here
For some reason you can crack larger rocks in the asteroid belt then on the moon surface. Go for M type with Laranite. But most anything will do while you learn
@north oyster the problem I encountered is that during my 5 hours of mining (on Aaron Halo and on Aberdeen), I did not see a single rock with more than 3% of a good mineral !
And what I see on YouTube people are finding 40-50% rocks!
You need to get the information on Aaron Halo bands. There are 8 bands. In band 7 I found tons of bexilte, Laranite, etc
I went to band 5! I will try another one
5 had the highest density but that has never equated to good ore for me
Band 6 was really good for me also
Good to know!
@north oyster also how do you know it's M type asteroid before mining it ? The scan tells you from far ? I did not notice it
is it worth getting the ROC DS or should one save up for a mining ship?
does anyone know why my mining head would just disapper?
Only worth it if you have a friend that wants to drive
On the topic of ROC mining, I have found only one ROC-mineable node in the last 12 hours. Been checking Auberdeen, Caliope, the polar ends of planets, etc. It’s like they’re not spawning.
When you switch to the mining laser head, it ID's the type of asteroid it is. Infact, it does it rather quick. The laser has a "better" scanner than the ship's regular scanner. There is a trick to where you can hover the mouse over the asteroid as you drift by that I saw on Farrister's video tonight but I've not experimented with that yet to learn about it.
The ROC-DS is rather large and much more difficult to transport. It was more of a marketing ploy than a real work. The regular ROC is all you really want. I would say that both the ROC (with transport) and getting the Prospector are great plans
Aberdeen and Arial are the highest populated locations of hadanite. The problem is the ping and scan issue that killed finding small deposits. This happened in 3.14. The problem with the ping was a known issue all through 3.14 being in the PTU. But CIG saw it fit to ignore the issue and release it as "works as designed"
The deposits do not show up until you are right on top of them. So Luck is the primary skillset here
you need to fly real low and find the right speed for you to both scan, you watch and avoid the ground for those small deposits to show up. All the while the trash returns from the large ore deposits crowd out the screen
anyone mining?
could use some help ;p
i got those 3 quant rocks next to me ;p
Check with Cross, he will have a big operation going that you can learn and earn a good bit
i know how to mine ;p
oh, my bad, sorry
Ok, I only saw your first part of your post, I missed the follow up after, I could use help, LOL
yeah i get that haha
I only mine in the Halo, it keeps me busy
aight
Good luck and best of successful mining. "may all your 32 SCU be Quantainium" 🙂
*or 96 if in a MOLE
prospector
but i cant do it
wont go into optimal
its the 5600 mass one
nvm
finally went in there LOL
after 5 mins straight at 100% XD
1200 mass 100% quant
thats what we like to see LOL
just to get this LOLOLOL
Is there a bug on the Halo? I can't mine 75% of the rocks I scan ... Been there for 45mn only found one minable rock xd
Yes it is, but I dont get why everyone says mining is the money maker when I can't find a single rock in almost an hour!
Two things if you are able to scan them you can mine them. And if you go that long with no good rock move
so my ship will blow up
No, every single cluster I found that scans I can't mine. Well the tab scans work on them, I see the minable rock logo, and that's it, can't scan further or mine.
I tried three belts today without luck, I'm gonna hop on another one again i guess!
It's really awful and I hopped 3 times hahaha
might not be my day i'll try again sometime
@safe siren that's why I mine on lyria
Lyria is better in that aspect
That's a server issue. If the server is sucking wind, you will get bad results. Unfortunately in the Halo, server is 100% factor
Like Cross mentions, when you are on a moon surface, that rarely happens.
I will try moons then! Because yeah Halo has not been kind with me 😒
right now the servers are also hosting the PTU testing and that is going roughly from what I hear. Lots of 30k
hey I have 6 quant rocks
and no mining ship
can anyone come in a mole and Ill spilt
I have days like that too. Good luck on Lyria!
ty !
are you in a mole?
Nope rented prospector
THat's the problem also, every good quant rock I find I can't take haha
I need someone with a mole
Ill pay them in advance with 50k if they'll spilt even with me
can't help you with that
@safe siren the rental prosp is butthole.
It is! I just wanted to try it before farming 2 mil to get one, but honestly idk if i want to get into mining it seems so buggy xd
Orison is also butthole
@safe siren most don't have that much issue. I pull 500k+ easily an hour
If you look up cross he can prob get you into a mole cre w
if i find a field thats a gold mine, there is no way to bookmark the location to warp back is there?
u can warp to those?
no but you can see the marker
they have a beacon
i normally use a scout so i'll just have them sit on it
im in the belt, so need to drop out of warp to manually get here. Dropping a box prob wouldnt work
sounds like second account is needed LOL
Think I may melt my Connie andromeda for a prospector. Think it’s worthwhile? How much could I potentially make per load with stock parts until I can save up for upgrades?
You need upgraded laser plus mods
But it's only at Max 100k for the good fit
Refining the ore it's easy to get 150k plus per trip with quant
Problem is that I just returned to the game, so I’m currently sitting at like 20k. So even if I can use the ship to bring in 20-30k per load, I can work towards purchasing the upgraded laser and mods.
You'd be better off doing some basic bounty missions or even box missions to make that cash
@harsh iris whats your IGN man i'll send ya the money for a lancet.
I did a few bounties and should be able to afford a Lancet. Think they're around 22.5k Should that be enough to at least get me started?
Will do
It's great. Got me into it and once you get into mining it's easy to get any other ship you want
What’s that a screenshot of?
How much quantanium in a run
I mean the webpage? App?
That’s nifty
its nice for reports etc
even can break it down this far
anyone apart of the team has there own contracts page.
Cool setup Cross!
Wow. That’s really cool.
You guys must be hanging for the Orion
we got these monthly reports that are super handy
So clearly you see we mine on lyria a bit
😄
Yeah
holy shit.
How large is the group?
Also what is the tax rate?
that tax is only on mining org night. but since i run the org i kinda donate 10% of each of my runs.
gotta pay for events etc ya know
we have our own racing league. and we like $$$ prizes
wow, I love this degree of coordination and administration. It's impressive.
I'm doing somewhat the same although myself only and in Excel.
this is just the mining contracts page LOL
There are other contracts too?
but we wanna make sure everyones getting paid.
no like my racing league is all tracked on the site.
Oh okay. Cool.
Now I know who to blame for Lyria being so damned empty all the time! 😛 What website is that?
Lol yeah I’m still stuck in Excel world. My supervisor is a Pandas aficionado and whips out data faster than I can contemplate it.
We built it from scratch.
its apart of our org website 😄
@winter flare for sure every saturday night
we'll take the blame
usually mine almost 20 mil every saturday
Holy shit.
I see that FE is the most popular refining method. I prefer that one. 1/3 the time with minor loss in profit.
i am so ready
for my orion tho
i have 2 of them
i hit billionaire with moles.
i'ma go for trillionaire with orions
Hull A's benefit supposedly isn't the SCU but rather the speed at which it loads. Not sure what it'll mean for us eventually, but I'm so ready for it as well. I pledged for the Hull D so this is one step close to the C loaner. 😄
I have a RAFT, so I guess I already have the speedload.
True.
I imagine the Hercules will be the most difficult ship to load (potentially) since it doesn't come with a tractor beam.
How can ARGO RAFT have less SCU than Hull A though?
Haha, picked up a stranded player in my RAFT one time and turned out he had a bounty. I put that RAFT through some fancy flying and we landed at A18, withstanding a direct ramming by the BH.
@main saddle yeah the most i've ever had was 2.48 billion
RAFT has 96 SCU @winter flare
Frack. Replied to myself when you posted, Cross lol.
I’m stuck on the fact that someone goes by the name “ButtMoan” 😆
Sounds like it 😄
nice guy thou
I’m sad I was not more creative with my name.
😄
Shoulda heard Subliminal trying pronounce mine on stream. He was like “what’s up with peoples names?” 😅
love that perfect 96 feeling
pls, where i am suppose to land here in order to trading console recognize my ship ?
fist time trying little bit of cargo hauling...
There is 2 small pads normally next to the trading centre i believe on most outposts
here is just this building, no pads. and when i land just next to the building it doesnt find my ship in trading terminal.
np. i am going to park it somewhere and try to relog.
hopefully i wont lost my cargo.
is anyone else having issues with cargo despawning from the ship
mission related and additional finds
i have used the andromeda, the 315i, and the freelancer
For the andro and 315 did you pit them on the elevators?
the 315 i put some cargo in the cackpit area and some in the cargo bay all of it disapeared
the freelancer i put some cargo in the main cargo bay and it disaplpeared after i turned in one of the boxes
i placed them
it doenst happen all the time but it happens enough to be frustrating especially when you fly an hr to get to a location
Yeah
yeah but how do i stop it from glitching out and why does it seem to be only me
Happens to a lot of people
Happens to me a lot which is part of the reason I don’t do box missions 
well good to know that maybe its something that a lot of people are dealing with
Ye
Dam bro, that's a fancy ass output page for your mining stuff. I'm still just rocking the basic 2x google forms (one for miners, one for scouts) and 5x google sheets (1 for reference data, 2 for calculations and 2 for displaying data)
Hi Haulers. is there better/more accurate tool than this sc-trade.tools for planning hauling routes ? this one says to buy for 25/unit but when i got to the place its almost 28/unit 🤔 selling for 31 so its half of the profit from what SC trade tool say. or any tips how to do hauling for best profit ? those are my first attempts.
The price per unit on sc trade tools is the base price of the commodity from the game files so it won’t be accurate as commodity price changes all the time depending on how much it’s bought and sold
Same here bud, same here 😄
I could set it up to have a nice fancy output but ehh, why bother 😄
It’s all motivation, I’d guess. Probably an org member really enjoys that sort of work and took on the project. 🙂
Same for mine. With my setup, you can send a google forms link to all the miners and scouters to fill in each time they do something
It then puts all that data into spreadsheets
and crunches out the numbers
I even factored in a bank % if the event calls for it
its the back end part that makes it worth, cuz it helps track your orders and like all of the events both from CIG and the org
This is true 😄
I do have my own trading/mining sheets for my own stuff, along with graphical outputs on each week, month and eventually, year of trading 😄
@soft cedar have u slept since that perfect run
you know i haven't lmao
qant don't mine itself
You guys been up all this time? I just woke up 😄
oh no I went to bed at 7am
Lol ok
I've been noticing in the last two days that trade consoles are frequently out of stock compared to before, even trying a bunch of different outposts
same I was able to get a 1/2 load of Astatine in my caterpillar last night but getting
I've tried 2 outposts each on 3 moons
Laranite I never can get at all
havent found any good places yet heh
astatine is almost as hard to get as laranite, and ive often seen titanium sold out too
I have not had any issues getting titanium, but I can see it starting to become an issue
ahh, i see... and is there any app that would show real data ? or how you ppl deal with it. dont tell me that you fly from space to space to find out if something is worth to trade that moment. 
lots of people are getting shot by players coming back to arc L1
It’s kinda hard to track exactly afaik since it’s constantly changing. But yeah sadly when I trade I just fly around to my normal spots to check. You can also check out Jack Axton on YouTube. He does commodity updates every week or so
Pretty much the best way to do it, will be more important later on cause API's they release wont be real time but based of the Data Gameplay Loops
@upbeat mantle server hop? i havent had issues in quite sometime
Yeah, probably a good Idea
yeah shitty pirates camp arc l1 tho it happens
Just tried VoiceAttack for the first time! Why didn't I do this ages ago?
Yeah, it can get pretty detailed in what it does. I have it but just haven't taken the time to really see what I could do with it. I have one of those HCS voice packs for SC and I would always forget the specific command for something 😅
@thin escarp Are you looking for crew members today?
so mostly asking from a fun/interesting point than money making.....what's better to spend UEC on right now.....a ROC (I have a Freelancer) or a Prospector?
For interesting, i like the roc. Fun is questionable though
Roc mining is Zen but kinda tedious ATM
thanks....my vision is upgrading the Freelancer to the SM (?) and keeping the ROC inside....
SM?
thus the question mark....couldn't remember the model number
I'm having a brain malfunction as to what SM is 😦
I could have sworn there was another variant.....but anyways....that's how I was mapping out my mining career....just thought that would be more interesting
ok....guess if I work hard enough I can get both 😉
Regarding ROC mining.. While I've been doing atmospheric bounties, occasionally, I get the diamond markers when I'm about 5-6km altitude. Below that, they disappear; but if I had my eye on where they were, when I get close enough, there are the gems.
ymmv
How much do you get from ROC mining
I have a massive scale mining operation planned for tonight if anyone wants in. EQUAL cuts for all on board. shoot me a dm for info. we start gettin together around 9pm est
Guys is it worth ot to buy a mole for solo mining or not
Live im doing solo prospector
yeah, running back and forth from the pilot seat to the mining laser is pretty annoying after a point
Where can I rent a prospector?
Don't rent em, the rental is butthole
Refineries. The laser is kind of weak, but if you're looking to just try out ship mining, it's 51k auec for a 1-day rental (at least at Hur-L1)
I had one by mistake a month ago so bought mining modules then they took it away lol.
yeah that was for free fly
but rental you cannnot change anything
its garbage
i'd go the roc route until you can buy
Lol damn
also you can catch a ride on some of my moles tonight if you wanna make some damn good money. i'm running a massive mining op
Nice but I don’t think I’ll be around tonight. Another time maybe
If I had a starlifter and was constantly filling it with Laranite and titanium how much would I make per hour?
you wont be constantly filling it
Is uex corp still a reliable source
bought ROC today, that little thing is quite nice. earned me around 110k on its first run and it was not even full (60/80) ... enjoyable experience... relaxing. any tip which planet should i visit for best profit ?
Reeee. First time I’ve been ROC mining in months and my Internet craps out while I’m lasering a rock. 
How long did that take you??? And I recommend either Daymar or Abberdeen
to be honest, i have no idea. i was flying slowly, i have Cutty and in atmosphere when going too fast it tend to push nose down... and few times while driving around i got lost and couldn't find ship for a while 😄 so lets say maybe...idk 2hours ? i was on daymar, so next time i will try the other one.
Huh, sounds like you had a lucky day then
But yh, 80m/s or slower, as low as you can and ping constantly
The three golden rules for ROC mining
I was just on Arial and 3 nodes of Aphorite marker showed up and I was several km away from it. Odd.
Lol I was mining it when my connection died.
is that considered a lucky day ? usually it takes longer to fill it up ? i have found one spot where was like 8 or so stones together. unfortunately just blue ones. But better than nothing 😄 and i dont ping. ping shows stones from far away and that confuse me then. i found it better with only pasive scan.
For me, pinging planetside is like saying , “Hey, I’m over here!” 😅
If I did the top one would I be getting 70k every 8 minutes? Don’t rlly know how trading works
ya see....I think I want to buy a ROC....and THEN save up for the Prospector....that way I can just land...ROC out and get going ....
keep it loaded in my Freelancer
I rented a ROC for 4.8k for a day.
it is cheap. only 170k
Yeah
2 runs and it earns it back
I just think the ROC would be more fun....did ship mining in EVE and Elite....wanna do something different
I had one before the wipe
oh AND Jumpgate
@main saddle you wanna come to my mining op tonight?
Guys can someone help me work some cargo stuff out
Does this mean I get 70k every 9 minutes ?
I was thinking about it. My router crashed or my internet went wonky a few minutes ago. Rebooted and checking if it’s gonna behave
yes and no. time is approximate, how long the travel will take and so on. also the prices are not accurate. i tried that route today and the profit was half of what that tool said. and also, i couldnt fill up my small ship at one place, had to visit 2. so i gave up, bought ROC and went mining 😄
all the servers share the same stock
So you got 35k for 9 mins
lol.
every single server shares the same stock. you'll be waiting around for server ticks.
get rid of the time frame and yes you can make 35k-70k when the stock is available.
cargo has been really sus for the last 2 years.
@main saddle def should try to make it. its big $$$ and you'll always learn something 😄
I just wanna know the best cargo method
lemme know cause were gonna start at 10pm
i have cutlass only, so it was supposed to be around 30k for me... but it was 15 at the end. and it took longer bcs i had to load at 2 places. and i bought everything there so probably if i would go again the same place it would be empty.
Idk man I heard that cargo is easy and profitable
I just want something chill that I can make a lot from
yeah no
everyone wants that 😄
What does that even mean@
so across all servers when people go to that station
and buy cargo
it clears it on yours too.
Right
hence everyone is begging for scraps.
What if I bought stuff that no one else buys
cause theres such a tiny supply
you gotta buy the stupid beyond low profit stuff
might aswell mine
mining is $$$ and very chill
Ok
I was gonna get a starlifter and grind cargo but if mining is better I’ll get a prospector and pocket the other 3 mil
its not that different 😄 still laser mining of some kind. honestly, the most enjoyable mining for me has ED, deep core when you cracked roid 😄 Best feeling ever 😄
Anyway, go for that ROC, but buy the smaller version. i am not sure if you would fit bigger one into free lancer (i wont into cutlass). 0.8 cargo is more than enough. bigger version has 2 and it would take half of the day to fill it up 😄 ... and bigger one cant control laser from pilot seat, you would need to swap seats each time you wanna mine.
Coolio. My connection seems to be stable.
Can anybody tell me how I get a ship in my fleet manager? I upgraded a hoverquad to a mole for the life time warranty, but it’s not showing up in my fleet manger. I can see all my ships and quads in my hanger online.
Did you apply the upgrade in your hangar (on the website)?
yeah
Are you at your home location?
yeah
hi friends, so for the covalex mission of box delivery for (45,000 aEUC), if i keep doing it and max the rep. will i get a money bonus? or better paying box delivery missions or is this pretty much it?
That's how pinging used to be, but now your pings don't show up on other people's huds
It
lt?
I know bounty missions pay more with more rep. I think they need to say plus bonuses
im assuming refining orders don't cross server do they?
oh, so if i started one i can change servers away from these babies measuring dicks in chat?
yo is anyone wiling to mine with me in a prospector for 50/50
I would if I knew what i was doing.... i just wasted 23k buying the wrong size laser u__u
@vestal zodiac i always got seats on my mole available
you can get a fat check just using a laser a lil bit
XD maybe after my next run is done
@thin escarp -- im heading back to the refinery, when im done I'm available (might reboot though to clear lag)
I'm having trouble finding anything with up to date info, maybe I missed something recently, however I overheard SaltEMike mention the Hull E having 8k SCU, and I've heard another content creator mention the Hull A has 64? and each size up just doubles the capacity? as a rule of thumb I don't trust the ship info on the website since that is never accurate, what is the official SCU capacity of the Hull series ships? I CCUd to a C, under the impression it'll have like 4k scu or whatever it's been advertised as, but now it seems like it'll be closer to like 512?
there's conflicting information
the reason I don't trust the ship info on the website is because of stuff like this
@clear badge Well, based on the image of the HULL A above there, it will fit 64 SCU... 4 x (4 x 2 x 2) SCU = 64 SCU
Not sure what the most recent external image of a loaded Hull C is, IAE 2950 had this displayed: https://starcitizen.tools/images/d/db/IAE2950-day-5-hull-c-front.jpg and from IAE 2951 https://starcitizen.tools/File:IAE2951-day9-misc-hull-c-holo.jpg . Looks like there are 8 loading arrays, each holding at least 18 times 32 SCU (each of the containers seems to be of the dimensions 2 x 2 x 8). if this the case, then we have 8 x 18 x 32 = 4608 SCU displayed on the picture. Now, there seems to be some space not utilized at the end of each loading array, not sure if that is going to be used for cargo or something else.
great info, I'm going to use my 400i as an LTI for the HULL C, I already have the CCU. Should be sweet when that comes online. I'm pretty sure that filling her 4K + of SCU will be contract and reputation based. The idea of front cash to filler her up is a scary thought.
That’s what I was thinking when I lost a C2 full of meds during a ninetails event that was rough and with that I could make my money back in two runs. Imagining losing 5 times that is too much for me. I hope they rework trade I really enjoyed trading in elite dangerous but it sucks in SC
You can also just hit f12 and turn off chat
@thin escarp can a helix 2x reiger torrent III crack an 8k rock? Lots of nights I have less than an hour to play so I like to do quick solo runs. I have found solo I can crack up to about 7.5k with a double surge stampede lancet, but I couldn’t break an 8.1k last night no matter how hard I tried. Looking to swap one of my moles lasers out for something more powerful but I can’t find any data on size limits for each mining head
anyone know the best mining planet for Hadanite ? preferably near arccorp?
hey what are some good sites to see what i can trade the best?
Quite a few sites around I like
https://www.gallog.co/commodities
https://sc-trade.tools/home
A good resource is Jack Axton's videos on trade. He did one a couple of months ago that is still valid. It's called the trade refresher course
I'll link it when I get up a computer
@tawdry glade I got 2 different mole loadouts. but I don't solo
@lilac arch 200-270k a run if ya got some skill
I have a guide pinned in this channel
@rancid egret best moon for hadanite is aberdeen
followed by arial
@lilac arch like 15-30 mins for me
but we gotta refine the mined resources
then transport to sell
so its a full game loop
@tawdry glade I can't recommended helix for solo. it's not gonna work out for ya
thank you!
thanks! i will check it out
The Prospector is the Goose that lays the Golden Eggs for the solo player. Once skilled enough, you can pull over 1M aUEC per day (roughly 4 or 5 runs). A full 32SCU of Quan refined (3131 yield at CRU-L1) will result in over 275,000 aUEC per trip.
I only did about 6 runs this past week because of PTU testing and RL interrupts, that still got me roughly 1,000,000 aUEC at market.
EDIT: Currently CIG is smart and disabled all of Scrap. Do NOT buy scrap. There is no available port to sell.
EDIT: There is a mistake on the Astatine table for the MSR. The proper values should be Buy in: 79,800, Profit: 22,800, Profit Per Hour: 68,400. I had an incorrect decimal throwing off values and I apologize for the confusion.
With 3.1...
He covers all the viable routes (still valid for 3.16.1) and earnings from different class of ships.
does anyone run a stealth prospector?
No, because stealth doesn’t work right now
whats the best mining head for prospector?
Lancet
You can decrease your signature and a number of people have done that. SuperMacBrother did a video on that from build 3.12 (iirc) that might have some valid information to check out. CIG did a change on ship components as they try to rebalance the game play. I'm not sure how that has come along and if components that were once all normalized have begun to have their performance begin to match their reported specifications
right now the lancet is the meta because it offers the best green zone for those who mine Quantainium. This of course might change soon (I fully anticipate some changes for 3.17 as they incorporate attachable gadgets)
I run stealth components. It doesn’t make a difference right now but may in the future once they reimplement stealth
I switched out my quantum from the spectre to the atlas because I bounce back and forth between cru-l1 and arc-l1
To further illustrate my point in stealth I have a retaliator with all stealth components no weapons and removed one shield and cooler. I was in a YT video during jumptown where I was being targeted from 20km away
@lilac arch the mining guide thats pinned in this channel has lots of prospector loadouts. lancet is best.
What’s The best ship for trading
Caterpillar holds a lot you can make 100K profit off a load of 576 SCU Titanium but its slow
C2 works well for me for the bigger runs as does the MSR which works well for running my mining/smaller loads
How do I scan rocks?
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@hollow sedge
So what’s better for cargo c2 Hercules or caterpillar?
C2 has 696 scu while cat has 576
Though bigger the cargo hold the more starting funds you need to trade
Both will need like 1mil minimum
Damn
Or well like 800k
Just depends on the commodity
Taurus is pretty solid choice for starting. 174 scu and you need like 150k - 200k to start
just run scrap with the c2 93k till you can run better cargo
No
no
ah shit
You can eject when you have quant in it but it ejects all of it
yeah thats the one i want to keep
but I actually had some success with mining
yay
what refinery should I use
as in which process
Which ground vehicles should i buy ?
Also can I refine several loads at once?
Personally i will go for the ursa but is it the best one?
for mining?
Nop just a good one
Well this seems like the wrong channel lol
Hh
but depends on what you want to do with it
Hh k
Mining is litteraly the best way to make money
I made 3.1 millions this week🤑
Use Dynix or something like that
Yup
bounty hunting is great too
made like a million a day
Shiitttt
~150k for a ERT&VHRT Group combined
which takes lets say 20 min?
maybe more
do several of those and you're getting good money
depending on what ship you have you can make easily 600k an hour doing bounties
atm I'm more limited by my pc then my ship which is why i set that number a bit lower
fair enough but bounty hunting is really good money for anyone
just combat might take some getting used to if youre new
the hammerhead can seem quite scary
on low pop servers its aim can be godly
its the one and only time ive died doing bounties and it caught me off guard
Doing delivery missions.... my level two bar is full on Delphi.... still getting 8000 uec missions and bar not moving... that normal?
... and yes, all for the same company
I think I have once already.... but I'll try again later on... thanks
Hey whats the trick to finding Hadanite etc? All I keep finding are rocks?
ayo did they fix the cargo thing where ships don't get detected if there's no landing pad ? so like scrapyard, jumptown etc
Tfw I spend a literal hour in the halo and can't find a single quant rock over 10%
All I find when pinging is rocks, no diamonds
Pretty sure this ROC is bugged, Displays are folded back and mining laser doesnt deploy? Am I doing something wrong lol?
Well that's odd
is that the ROC DS?
Yes
I did ROC mining a few patches ago and this just worked lol, M for mining mode and away u go
ROC DS is for 2 people. The driver cannot operate the mining arm. The screens are slanted for the laser operator on the right
you'll have to get in position, then jump out and switch to the mining arm
@open plaza ferron exchange and dinyx solventation
i also have a mining guide in this channel that will help ya alot.
its pinned
@rain shadow fly low under 1000 alt
and fast.
id start on aberdeen
Thanks guys
By fast u mean 80m/s and over
?
I'd seen someone say to fly slower than 80
you gotta cover alot of ground
well they are derpy as hell LOL
no wonder your not finding anything
what is the laser i see in videos that lets you move cargo?
Tractor beam
Just cracked a single rock with 61.23 scu of quant in it
Picture?
Awesome stuff! I got 69.31 the other day was my best solo single rock yet. Was hoping to crack the 70 mark
Damn!
I just ran out of fuel on my way to the refinery... and continued to drift close enough to get a parking violation and get impounded
such relief
lol take that as a win
What is the best moon/band to mine quant with aprospector?
lyria
ok thanks
Does anyone have a updated list of mineral prices
I didn’t still haven’t figured out how to screenshot. I mapped my print screen button as open all doors and GeForce experience is off
It was nuts percentage like 49.25 or something on a 6.1k rock
I was hoping the rock next to it would be decent but still happy with that for a quick run
Anyone know if the raft is a solid cargo hauler to use?
it got 96 SCUs, with the current profit margin you wont get much out of that
C2, cat, or nothing
that is sadly the truth
SHIT
Why did I ever buy it 😦
I thought it was a solid choice
I thought it would pay out in the long run
Damn
Thank you for the info
you can always upgrade or melt it
and with the eventual cargo refractor it should become a lot better (in theory)
Cargo Refractor?
at some point you will have to physically load cargo
and the raft got a tractor beam for that
Hmmm
The space is the only issue I currently see tbh, you think it will be upgradeable in a worth keeping sense? Or should I consider swapping it out.
and imo going for max value becomes stale quite fast, I enjoy a bunch of suboptimal gameplay loops


