industrial-professions

[north oyster]

But not sure the ingame aUEC cost. And anything else is pure speculation

[coarse cape]

Nvm

Was asking how much it would cost per hour lmao

Like how much would it cost to do a run

Etc

[north oyster]

A full Orion of Quantainium would payout over $140,800,000 aUEC in earnings

[silk ridge]

I think of upgrading my nomad to a Prospector. ... I rarely haul cargo and boxes are easily thrown through the door via traktor beam XD

[coarse cape]

Do you have a cargo ship to transport refined ore tho

[north oyster]

Like Reselute mentions, you need a basic cargo ship. The cutlass black would be a good upgrade from the Nomad. Then get the Prospector in-game

[silk ridge]

Not yet ... That'll be the first purchase from the money I make with basic mining.

[north oyster]

you can go that route, but you will need to rent the cutty or Freelancer to deliver your product to market

[silk ridge]

That's not a problem. Rent is relatively cheap. And I'm not going the optimized route either. I'm more in for the long game. 🙃 Don't mind smaller profits.

[north oyster]

Just pick up the Lancet first thing if you haven't already done that now. Have you been using the free Prospector? We still have about 5 days left to use it

[silk ridge]

I've used it a bit. ya. Saving some extra cash for the helix mining thingy.

[north oyster]

don't waste your aUEC on the Helix. While it is the most powerful the Lancet is the meta now for most all mining, especially Quantainium

I used the Helix exclusively for almost two years, great laser head but the changes in the game for mining Quan makes it not worth messing with

With the free Prospector, you can be pulling over 1M aUEC per day, easily

I made over 800K in 4 trips. So it is a learning curve worth navigating

[silk ridge]

No more need for the Helix? Sounds good to me XD ... less money to spend.

[north oyster]

Way less money!! LOL. Also it seemed CIG nerf the Helix performance and also added a 40% lag on control response, making it absolutely terrible to work with along with the very narrow green band

[thin escarp]

@silk ridge check out my guide its pinned

[silk ridge]

Will do =)

[lavish leaf]

What are you mining with the Prospecter?

Oh did you upgrade a prospector with the Lancet?

[north oyster]

I use the Lancet laser head, I mine in Aaron's Halo and I keep surge consumables to speed it up (but not needed)

[lavish leaf]

Cool, thanks!

[north oyster]

You bet

[lavish leaf]

I had a rough time finding good stuff the other day, it was all non "-ite" materials for miles

is the Lancet better at Quantanium?

[north oyster]

Lancet gives you a generous green zone, it's perfect for Quan

[lavish leaf]

awesome

[north oyster]

It is a crap shot in the belt. But I've found some decent spots towards the outer bands

the belt is 100% dependent on the health of the server

crappy server, crappy scanning = it is law

[crisp canopy]

Isnt the quantity of quantanium persistent through all servers?

[silk ridge]

So it's basically on the constant brink of death

[north oyster]

100%

that's part of the fun, LOL

Moon side on the surface, these issues do not happen

So Lyria is much more consistent, I just enjoy the deep space without all the stuff that a planet surface brings

[silk ridge]

I like bad-weather Lyria 🤣

[north oyster]

And Pirate Lyria too 🙂

[pearl matrix]

you tested them some more? I'm still only on band 5 and its super hit or miss

[north oyster]

I think this last patch shifted the Belt somewhat. The inner bands seem about right but the outer bands seem more constricted inwardly. While 11.5M (from ARC-L3) isn't good, when I'm at 11,450,000"ish" it seems pretty good.

[silk ridge]

Nah... not a fan of pirates. I prefer doing my missions in peace I try to avoid PvP at all costs. xD

[north oyster]

There is no such thing at PvP in a Prospector. I don't have guns on my ship, LOL

[crisp canopy]

My guns got blown off

[north oyster]

I take the guns and gimbles off because they use power that I can otherwise use on my laser

[silk ridge]

Running is the best strategy anyway. As soon as I see anyone at the radar I have my QT spooling 🤣 ... Bad habit... but saved my butt a few times

[supple mason]

dont run

fight

https://tenor.com/view/animalhouse-ramming-speed-gif-18431903

[silk ridge]

I a nomad? or later Prospector? ... nah ... I run

[supple mason]

[north oyster]

I did slice a fighter in half one time with a Helix

[supple mason]

[silk ridge]

xD

nice

[pearl matrix]

I mostly do the Arc-L1 to Cru-L5 @ 39.8

so you basically go band 8?

[naive wigeon]

where is the best place to sell quant rn

[pearl matrix]

selling has no different prices

[north oyster]

Yes, I'm towards the outer bands

[pearl matrix]

as long as it is refined you are good

[north oyster]

To me, Area18 is where I go. The sell price is 88 at all locations (for now)

[naive wigeon]

k

[pearl matrix]

I really hope the prospect side of mining gets at least a bit more love

[bold yew]

I that that is only trade goods that are game wide.

[supple mason]

right

like remove the prospector

[silk ridge]

I think 90% of the playerbase would disagree on that

[pearl matrix]

but the prospector is so nice :(

[silk ridge]

I looooove the cockpit. Literally the best in the game.

[bold yew]

At first it handles pretty bad, but you get use to it and I really like the Prospector. It is better to move around once you know to use its vtol to turn etc.

I hope they add large caves and stuff to planets and asteroids like in the prospector vid that allows it to mine places where other ships cant.

I also want a bumble bee skin for the prospector 🐝

[north oyster]

I concur, I think the Prospector is a decently implemented concept. It is singularly focused and does that job very well.

[silk ridge]

Bumble bee skin for the prospector and a cow skin for the Freelancer max

[north oyster]

And yes on the Bumble bee livery

I like my MAX in black, she rocks

[bold yew]

Hehe, is what I feel like going from rock to rock in mining mode scanning everything, big fat bumble bee.

[north oyster]

tru dat

[obtuse sand]

can the lancet mine quantanium without the use of mining modules or are those strictly necessary?

[pearl matrix]

this just sounds lovely

[obtuse sand]

i’ve read it’s got less power than the stock arbhor yet not even that can crack open quant asteroids in my experience

[obtuse sand]

we need this now

[north oyster]

it can in the asteroid belt, but not on planet surface

The Lancet, though rated very low in power seems to be able to perform in a heavier weight class than most other laser heads. In the asteroid belt, you can crack the max 5.1K asteroid with time. Having a surge saves you about 5 minutes though. I keep two slots filled with the Surge and one slot with the stampede (just in case I'm in a hurry).

[naive wigeon]

i cant find where to sell quant in area 18

[north oyster]

AT the TDD in the center area

where the big gear globe spins

It is directly across from the hallway you come out of when you leave the hab

[naive wigeon]

i found it

thanks

[north oyster]

I'm a native of MicroTech who decided to migrate to ArcCorp and make Area18 my home

[naive wigeon]

lol

just made my first million lol

[north oyster]

ROCK 'n ROLL!! congrats, feels good doesn't it? The first of many

[naive wigeon]

yea

how do you use the charge things for mining

for the bigger rocks

with the prospecter

[north oyster]

The consumables?

I don't use the passive attachments, though a lot of miners like those.

You've got to be very careful with the Surge. You can blow yourself up in a heartbeat. If you use it, fire it first thing to make sure you won't go into the Red. It overcharges 200% in the red

[naive wigeon]

i might need to watch a vid

[sour cairn]

the consumables are in the num 1, 2, 3

[north oyster]

yes, SuperMacBrothers has a good one

Thanks Wolf, I have mine mapped to my joystick so I don't recall how to launch from keyboard

[sour cairn]

oh yea that makes it tricky then

[north oyster]

This is a good one, little dated but still applies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MLHd3PMuWs

[naive wigeon]

k

[sour cairn]

good luck with an 8k rock and a prospector even if you got consumables your better with at least to prospectors

[north oyster]

I don't mess with surface mining, but I use to live by it. CIG did change a little bit of the physics since this video but most all of still applies.

[sour cairn]

3

3.12 wth

[north oyster]

SMB Ryan is a great Star Citizen source, I highly recommend subscribing to his channel

[sour cairn]

i follow but this is out of date

[north oyster]

a lot less than you would think. Even with the rebalance of components, as CIG implements them back the changes will drastically change the Prospector's signature.

And with the mining, everything is still the same in principle

[sour cairn]

yea but they have increased ai presence on the planets and moons so you might want more power to escape

[north oyster]

Fortunately I've not had any AI hit me in the middle of the Belt YET but I don't rule that out, LOL

I was diving down from OM-1 on a mining expedition and had an AI attack me out of nowhere. I'm going, like what the heck

[sour cairn]

yea the belt is safe but planet or moon side your sol and starting miners dont know the belt to well

[north oyster]

you're 100% correct and I often forget that important point

But I still try to throw them out of the nest as early as possible, LOL

[hollow sedge]

Ok so I found a rock that I can mine but when I try to mine it nothing happens

Like the charge level won't go up

[north oyster]

in a ship or the ROC?

[hollow sedge]

The ship

[north oyster]

so the laser is in mining mode is hitting the rock, have you spun the mouse wheel to increase laser power?

[hollow sedge]

I did still nothing

[north oyster]

Do you have joystick on the rig?

[hollow sedge]

Like what do u mean?

[north oyster]

So when you scroll up on the mouse wheel you do not see the power on the laser going up?

[hollow sedge]

No it does go up just not the charge level

I have a Lancet mining head

[north oyster]

Are you within 40m of the rock?

[hollow sedge]

Yea im like super close

Idk maybe it's a bug

[north oyster]

does the scale on the top left say "sufficient"
Yeah, I think it is a bug.

Maybe turn off the mining mode, get out of the seat and then try again

[hollow sedge]

But its weird cause a long time ago I was trying to mine a rock through the multi tool and nothing

[north oyster]

I had that issue with the ROC a number of times

[hollow sedge]

Damn man it seems like mining is buggy

[north oyster]

it always is to some degree

[hollow sedge]

Idk I never had luck with it

[north oyster]

Don't give up!

[hollow sedge]

The game probably hates me lol

[north oyster]

naw, it just needs to be taught a lesson to not mess with you

[hollow sedge]

Yea lol

[vestal seal]

How big is the rocks mass

[hollow sedge]

I already left the area

Also is Aaron's Halo a profitable area?

[mint light]

Im about to do my first mining ever

Any tips

[undone frigate]

How much a box form JT costs?

[mint light]

Whats the scanning button in the prospector

[vestal seal]

Around 19k each

[vestal seal]

Tab for scan ping and v to enter scan mode

[vestal seal]

What are you mining

[mint light]

Idk

Rocks

[mint light]

It says quantonium deposit

[vestal seal]

Okay so quant is the best resource to mine

But

As soon as you collect it you have a 15 minute timer to get to a station and store your ship or you explode

Do you have any experience mining anything

Even hand mining counts

[mint light]

Nope

Um

[vestal seal]

Do you know the controls for mining

[mint light]

My engines just turned off

And so did everything else

[vestal seal]

Press r to turn your ship on

Nothing should happen like that unless you’ve damaged your power plant or accidentally turn your ship off

[mint light]

I was mining a rock

Accidently went over into red

And engines went off

[vestal seal]

Did you blow the rock up

[mint light]

Yeah

[vestal seal]

And your ship isn’t working

[mint light]

Yeah

[vestal seal]

Do you have anything on you

[mint light]

Wdym

[vestal seal]

Important that you care about losing

Like any armor or weapons

On your person

[mint light]

Yeah

[vestal seal]

Well your ship is dead in space and the only thing you can do is ask for help and pick up

I would if I was on but I can’t sadly

[mint light]

Do you think you could teach me to mine if you get online later or tomorrow

[vestal seal]

I won’t be able to get on all week but I could talk you through it

If you’d want to go to a vc now or later I could help

I just won’t be able to play

[mint light]

Yeah im down

[vestal seal]

Alright

[sour cairn]

jack i could help you out

[pale verge]

I am transporting 3000 refined quantorium. Is it normal to only get 2 boxes in mu ship?

[crisp canopy]

Quantanium isnt even physicalised in ships yet

[pale verge]

Oh OK

[violet spade]

Umm. Where can I sell Larinite for the highest rn?

[topaz coyote]

just go to major hub.. the prices aren't that significant to warrant price shopping

[violet spade]

?

I just need a spot to sell for a good price

[topaz coyote]

how does Area 18 sound?

[violet spade]

is that one of the best places to sell?

[supple mason]

zoom zoom, pew ouch ding ding pew zoom

something like that

[topaz coyote]

its a major hub.. A18/Lorville/Orison/NB.. edit: forgot babbage

he gets it @supple mason

[violet spade]

?

[topaz coyote]

Im not sure what else you need Sushi.. it's that simple... take it to a major hub.. find trade center.. sell it... boom! the price is the price...

[violet spade]

Im not in the mood to go on a website

[supple mason]

what

[topaz coyote]

you must be really poor in SC to care this much...

[supple mason]

[violet spade]

I have 1 mill that I spent on cargo in this ship and I dont want to waste it.

[topaz coyote]

easiest trip is take it port above major hub.. store it.. fly down in a small ship.. then sell it...

the sell prices do not fluctuate much at all.. especially not to care this much.. you will make good money as is.. whatever the price is

[violet spade]

ok

[topaz coyote]

buy prices do fluctuate a bit but not that much with Laranite... it's pretty steady in my experience...

you will make money with that load... but don't go down to planet with your cargo ship...

[violet spade]

so a bajini point

[topaz coyote]

yessir!

[violet spade]

thx bro

[topaz coyote]

no prob!! faster money with Titanium though! 😉

[violet spade]

cap 🧢

[topaz coyote]

no cap.. i make more money trading titanium and extras VS laranite... laranite supply too weak...

I have C2... sitting on about 18M (mostly from mining).. I'd say about 3M is from trading when i get bored of mining... that's weak money compared to others in here like Cross... haven't played in about 2 weeks... been stuck on Lost Ark for some reason...

[hollow sedge]

does anyone know what that thing on the back of the prospector is that lowers down?

[analog field]

Supposed to be able to suck ore outta a mining backpack that doesn't exist

[north oyster]

Yes, Aaron's Halo is profitable but it depends on server health and a couple of other ratios. I did 4 trips for over 800K aUEC profit

A million in laranite? Pretty confident that didn't come from one spot at one time.

[pallid temple]

That's not what it is

[analog field]

Everything I've seen says that's what it was supposed to be. Cause the inert filter is by the engines

But who knows at this point so much has changed it could be for anything

[hollow sedge]

What does this mean?

[analog field]

If you don't select ALL the ore it says that

Basically a warning to double check if you picked the right stuff

[hollow sedge]

Oh

[vestal seal]

Yeah they delete the stuff you don’t refine for whatever reason so it just tells you

[glacial dagger]

If you don't connect it all in one load, the rest gets deleted, yh

[brazen thistle]

Once ores are refined, can i somehow split it ? So i could take it in 2 rounds with smaller ship lets say?

[marble crater]

Nope, all or nothing

[analog field]

Sadly not, luckily you can rent a cutty for cheap

[jagged elbow]

quick question when you process stuff does it stack up like if i keep mining without selling or is there a limit ??

[vestal seal]

No there’s no limit as far as I can tell

[vestal seal]

I stacked around 20 different work orders

[jagged elbow]

ok and can i divide what i want to hull

[analog field]

Only by each job

[jagged elbow]

k

[analog field]

So 12 loads you can take 12 separate

[brazen thistle]

I bought game today so i am not familiar with ships yet. 🙂 you talking about cuttlas ? the one that is avaliable now during free fly ? But i am disapointed you cant split it. i wanted to rent a prospector and try to earn some money. But from my first mining trip i got 10 cargo... and i have titan which have only 8 cargo. so i cant even one full prospector refine without need to rent another ship just to ship it and sell 😦

[analog field]

One thing you can do is use the cutlass with stacked up jobs

You will want full loads to be worth but yes mine for a day, refine. Then rent the cutlass and haul for a day

[brazen thistle]

yes, thats true. ok. and one more question, can i open prospectors inventory to see what ores i have ? and maybe even eject those that i dont want ?

[analog field]

You cannot while in space, but when you go to refine you can pick what to keep and what to pitch

Generally you won't want anything besides quant or the other 2 just below it. Most just mine quantanium though

[brazen thistle]

Well, its more advanced due its instability 😄 and even worse in rented ship without upgrade. First, i need to get used to mining in general.

[analog field]

Oh yes you can't do it in a rental but bexa is doable

[brazen thistle]

ok, my first attempt to mine - i just dig first rock i found and now i see it was the worst one possible 🤣 ALUMINIUM mostly xD oh, well. ok thanks for tips.

[analog field]

The rental is ass overall. I would suggest Gem mining( rent roc and Cutty) or join a mole crew

The rental CAN make cash but it is such a slog

Cross has a great guide pinned in this channel

[marble crater]

can also team up with someone in a Prospector

[thin escarp]

@hollow sedge could be a ghost rock. or too big.

@brazen thistle dont rent a prospector. you cant change the laser. its trash

[sage arch]

Where can I buy the Lancet MH1 mining laser

[sage arch]

im at hur-l2 and dont see it anywhere

[viral lake]

when at the kiosk put the mouse over the top tabs and use scroll wheel to move it

a tab labeled "utility" will appear. Mining head will be in there

[sage arch]

thanks i found it <3

[analog field]

They like to hide the dang thing lol

[chrome beacon]

Is there a list of outposts that don't recogonized parked ships for trading?

[covert karma]

https://finder.cornerstonebase.space/ this helps you find anything you wanna buy

[tawny path]

does anyone have a mole and want to do some mining?

[cerulean palm]

I do but today not possible for me. But I normally go out most days a few hours earlier than now if that works for you. Could do with a buddy. It’s tough on my own.

[tawny path]

just DM me, ill be playing all day tomorrow

[cerulean palm]

Sounds good. Will ping you tomorrow my morning time (I’m in Asia) and see if you are around. Cheers.

[vale swan]

Hey guys i have a question i want to get a cargo ship

i have 370 bucks on my account and i have a aurora package

or should i go with something like the reclaimer and do Salvaging with a friend

[tawny path]

go cheap and build your way up

save your money

[vale swan]

i already have the money on my account so i was wondering what i should i get with that

[worthy ibex]

well i mean the c2 is 400 bucks

and that’s the best cargo ship in the game atm

[quasi dragon]

Salvaging isn’t released yet

[silk ridge]

The one feature I'm looking forward to is selling stuff at shops

It kinda boggles my mind that that's not in the game yet 🤣

[ionic lintel]

yeah would be nice, even at a loss

[pearl matrix]

if I foundn asteroid I cant mine, cant sb join with me in a group and jump to me?

[ionic lintel]

why cant you mine it?

[pearl matrix]

idk, think the laser was broken

yep, it was missing the laser...

[paper pewter]

If one person on EU and one on NA and one on Aus all check prices at the same outpost at the same time, what do they see?

[silk ridge]

probably the same price ... otherwise all the price tools would be a mess I guess.

[plucky gyro]

Changed. Your channel name is now Mining.

[silver latch]

Is there a way round the bug on outpost not seeing u ship
When trying to buy goods

[silk ridge]

some are bugged, ya

need to re-land a few times or try to relog

[ionic lintel]

also make sure your ship is stored

[rancid egret]

how much is a full 0.8 SCU (ROC) worth of Hadanite ? i heard ppl say its 250,000 aEUC

[nova mica]

anyone wanna help me out im new.... I wanna make money so if anyone wants to go mining , I would like to join you and help you 🙂

[rancid egret]

you could go cargo running solo

depends what ship you have

[nova mica]

i have the avenger and some race ship and a mustang :))

[rancid egret]

ouf

i mean you could try cargo running on an avenger

or save up to get a Nomad

[nova mica]

yeah im too poor rn :(( only 10k to my name LMAo

[rancid egret]

Nomad is imo the best starter ship in the game currently, allows you to do cargo running, carry around a ROC to do gem mining and, has 3 S1 shields and 3 S3 guns.

[nova mica]

yeah, I never knew that till now ;/

[rancid egret]

did you buy avenger with real money ?

game package right?

[nova mica]

ye

yeah

[rancid egret]

CCU it up to Nomad

[nova mica]

dang i wonder how much that would be

[nimble wedge]

Hadanite sells for 275

[nova mica]

ill check it out :))

[rancid egret]

will cost you 25$ but with 24SCU of cargo, you can easily do cargo running

[nova mica]

DANG THATS CHEAP

[rancid egret]

and carry a ROC on the back

[nova mica]

ight say less

[rancid egret]

and the Nomad has better shields + weapons

[nova mica]

dang thats cool ty :))

[rancid egret]

nw man

also use this

https://uexcorp.space

very useful site to start trading

[north oyster]

Welcome to the 'verse!! It will be a learning curve but worth the effort. Also soniX, for the next four days you have the free fly Prospector which you can change out the laser head like you own it. Get the Lancet but you don't have to mine Quan

[nova mica]

if you wouldn't mind could you send me the link for this :)?

[rancid egret]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge

select the "Ship Upgrades"

when you're logged in

(make sure you're logged out of the game first tho)

select your avenger titan, and then in the right section look for the Nomad upgrade and select it

[nova mica]

ah okay thank you sm :))

[north oyster]

Not to rain on the parade, but I won't get the Nomad, the Cutlass would be the best use of your funds. Just save up for that later

[rancid egret]

nw, if you ahve any questions DM me or ask here

true

Cutlass would be better

but its more of an investment

[covert karma]

if he wants mining why not prospector? is it out of his budget?

[rancid egret]

prospector can't be used for cargo running

[north oyster]

I got the Titan originally and used it for months, then I got the Cutlass. That was the best move I made in the game, totally changed it for me

[rancid egret]

thats true

he could CCU up to Cutty B

[north oyster]

Everyone has a Prospector now for the next 4 days, use it and see if that's what they want

[rancid egret]

but would cost bit more

its up to him

25$ USD vs 45$USD..

[north oyster]

with the cutty, do BH and other things, buy Prospector in-game. Life is good from there on out

[rancid egret]

its really depending on his budget

[north oyster]

true, I had to save up for mine, but it was worth the wait.

[covert karma]

peronslly, I think 45 is good asl. idk what he thinks tho. it is his money after all

[north oyster]

Plus you can do most everything in game with the Titan

[rancid egret]

true

i think the cutty black handles like poo, and looks like poo

but thats just me

xD

[nova mica]

Dang tuff thinking i got to do here

😭

[north oyster]

Cutlass Black is the Swiss Army Knife of Star Citizen. Good at everything, great at nothing

[silver latch]

im at nuen waste mangment.. i can see my ship.. im parked right next to it, anyone got a list of the outposts not working? 😒

[rancid egret]

theres more SCU in the cutty, also the cargo is hidden inside

the Nomad its open to the outside, and its smaller

[covert karma]

also the cock pit view from the nomad is bleh

[north oyster]

The cutty has good size tanks, can fly for a long time. Though only one shield, she is still a great all-rounder

[nova mica]

dang I'm going to get the cutty black now :)) thanks lol

[north oyster]

Plus she can carry the ROC easily (yes Nomad can also but have to back it in) and also it can deliver refined goods if you get a prospector while the Nomad will not be able to

[rancid egret]

yeah cutty black is definitely a better option then nomad, i just wasnt sure how much more budget you'd be willing to spend

my starter ship was the RSI conny ANdro xD

now... im too deep in the SC CCU rabbit hole 😦

i've got..

[nova mica]

uh you guys have problems LMAO

[rancid egret]

Prowler, Vanguard Senti, Redeemer, 315p(with aeuc)

[fathom stirrup]

hey, does anyone want to come pick up a nice quant cluster? I had two 30% rocks at about 5k. It's already mostly broken... my ship just ran out of fuel while I was finishing the breakdown

[rancid egret]

im gonna CCU up my deemer to the HH when its in shop, i missed my chance last time

[fathom stirrup]

don't want anything, just figure I'd offer to let someone pick it up before I respawn

[nova mica]

I have the AURORA LN what should i do with it 🙀

🤔

[rancid egret]

caca

xD

did you buy with aEUC or $ ?

[nova mica]

yeah i know that :(((

[nova mica]

$ sadly :((

[rancid egret]

no thats good

[nova mica]

😠

[rancid egret]

CCU it up to something better

[nova mica]

hmmmm

like?

i can prob spend like 120$ rn

[rancid egret]

if you buy any ship with aEUC you're stuck with it, cant sell it or scrap it... i regret my 315p since i bought it with in game money.

i hate it

[nova mica]

dang

[rancid egret]

well, idk how much disposable income you have so i can't suggest anything furthur xD

but if you want mining, prospector is great

if you want cargo running... star-runner is good

[nova mica]

dude the prospector sounds cool af

[rancid egret]

it does

but you can't mine Gems or certain big rocks

[brazen thistle]

Thanks for warm welcome. prospector for next 4 days ? i thought free fly ends tomorrow or so. Anyway, how is it with ships that i buy in game ? hope i will be able to respawn them in case of someone blow me up... as i can with titan i bought with starter pack. or is it different ?

[nova mica]

ah okay i was wondering that :))

[rancid egret]

the Mole isnt worth, i did buy it for a bit. and i got bored of mining so i CCU'd it up to Prowler xD

[nova mica]

i forgot i had the mustang... tf can i do with that bad ship?

[rancid egret]

Mustangs are kinda caca

[nova mica]

yeah

NO DUH

[rancid egret]

a good light fighter would be Gladius imo

Gladius is S-Tier light fighter

[nova mica]

i have so many useless ships its sad

😭

[rancid egret]

you can easily grind up to do VHRT with Gladius

(i wouldnt do ERT...)

have you tried mining before ?

are you familiar with the mini-game mechnics ?

actually..

you could rent a cutlass black

see if you like it for a day

before spending real money on it

[nova mica]

im to poor to rent :((

in game

LOL

[rancid egret]

do the illegal monitor missions

its 20,000 aEUC reward

[nova mica]

ight

[rancid egret]

takes 2-3min

[nova mica]

ill go grind LMAO

😩

[rancid egret]

rent a cutlass black, try it, if you like it, buy it and start cargo running

[north oyster]

tip for the illegal monitor mission, find all three monitors first, then destroy them

[rancid egret]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

do that

[nova mica]

ahhh okay i needed that

[rancid egret]

maybe i'd say

grind on thoes missions till you have 100,000 aEUC, rent a cutlass black, spend the rest on Laranite and start cargo trading. 🙂

[north oyster]

if you get within 3000 meters they monitors will get a persistent pip on them so you can come back to them and blow them up

[rancid egret]

100k is enough to start Cargo trading yeah?

i think thats what i started with

i gave up ofcourse, now i just grind bunker missions or bounties for cash xD

[north oyster]

you won't get rich with a small ship doing trade, but you will pick up the basics of working the system

Serious trading doesn't start until you get a C2 or CAT. Anything below that is just dabbling in it

[north oyster]

The free fly ships are like you own them. So they will respawn with the mods if you had applied some. I would say you need to remove the items before the end because what is on them will vanish with the ship. So if you got the Lancet for the Prospector and it is on the ship when the ships are withdrawn, the Lancet will go with it. Take it off and you get to keep it for your next ship

Oops, you're right @brazen thistle the free fly ends at the end of the 25th.

[brazen thistle]

haha thanks. i am poor, i saw some of those mining heads and they were few tens thousands. so maybe next time 🙂 Anyway, what i was asking is how is it with ships i BUY for in-game credits.. will it be added to my ship list and when i destroy them i can respawn them again ? or do they have just "one life" and once its destroyed i need to pay full price again ?

[north oyster]

Yes, ships bought in game are like ships you bought with cash. They are yours and you keep them ... until the game is wiped. The wipe isn't often but it will happen. Like when the game goes to Alpha 4, etc

We had a wipe with 3.14(?) and it had been over a year and a half before the last wipe

[brazen thistle]

hmm.. and do we know if wipe is going to happen any time soon ? if its worth it to start now, or wait.

[north oyster]

LOL, sorry, I didn't mean to startle you. No, the wipe will be in over a year from now, if you ask me. I had built up hundreds of millions and had every ship in the game, but it also worth working back up again. So the wipe was actually well received. Zero to Hero 🙂

The wipe is only for things bought in game with aUEC, not with real world cash

[brazen thistle]

haha 😄 all right, so i will start learning the game. and hopefully have some time on it. the game is beautiful, that was the main reason i bought it 😄 but optimalization could be better though. Yes i know items for real money will persist. but in those crazy times i told myself to invest only absolute necessary minimum to the game. ( i already broke that promise by buying Titan 😄 ) i dont mind to play the game in order to afford ships. 🙂

[north oyster]

I started with the Titan, such a great ship. You can earn and build up everything in game. Send me a friend invite in SC, my handle is the same as here tripperdan99 and also DM if I can ever be of assistance. This is a sandbox demonstration, but it is fun none the less

[brazen thistle]

Thanks ! will do... but i will probably just drop questions here anyway, there is many things that i am curious how works or if works 😄 for example, i thought universe is persistent. So if i park ship outside and log off, next day it will be still there. I tried that, ship was not there and status on terminal was unknown. But i respanwed it and there was teddy bear and some sweets on the bed. that was not there before 😄 and was not there after i blow up and respawn again. so i dont know what happened there but it was... interesting 😄

[rotund silo]

So, if I was flying back to a station with a load full of ore, and I got DC'd, I'm going to have to claim my ship and lose all my ore?

[pearl matrix]

basically yes

[rotund silo]

f

oh double f all my modules this is the worst

[north oyster]

Not especially. If the server (not your client) drops you, then you Do Not Claim Your Ship but rather you retrieve it back at the station you spawn at. Everything will be in it, as it was. There is a server "heartbeat" that takes a snapshot of your state in the ship. When the 30K hits, it will restore you back to that point. You simply retreive your ship (again, do not claim)

If your ore was raw Quant, then you will need to retrieve and then immediately stow it. You may be able to claim your ore at the refinery before retrieving but I don't think so. Can test it that way first.

[fallen sail]

yo can i do trading on my nomad

[rocky holly]

Not recommended, rent a cutlass

[rotund silo]

Well, it's possible I didn't wait long enough, but when I reconnected I was back at ARC L1 (where I launch from) and my only option was to Claim the Prospector which was at location Unknown (I was flying back to L1 from Lyria when I DC'd)

[north oyster]

I had the same issue last night and the ship could be retrieved.

[rotund silo]

Maybe my drop was client-side then

[marble crater]

Can take up to 15 minutes or so for the disconnect recovery to kick in

[rotund silo]

Nothing beats finding a rock with 11% Agricium, cracking it once, and all the Agricium falls out in one neat little chunk, ready for extraction

[analog field]

Ewww agri lol

[zinc mulch]

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[past current]

I have a question

If you bloc up ur prospector do you lose your mining laser (lancet mh1)

*blow

[zinc mulch]

no

[summer escarp]

Are you are the guy who got stuck under the ROC?

if so did it ever work out for you? sorry i couldnt get you out of there

[coarse cape]

you wont lose the laser but you will lose the modules like surge etc

[past current]

Oki thx

[hollow adder]

Looking for 2 or 3 for Mole mining. Dm's open

[fallen sail]

yeah it worked

thanks bro 🤛

[tawny path]

anyone mole mining? im trying to save up for a prospector

[hollow sedge]

i am

i do instant payout

lf laser operator/scout for mole instant payout

[tawny path]

nice ill join

[safe inlet]

So, yesterday i managed to mine 27.7scu of quant, what would be the best way to transport it? Small cutty black batches or try and load into a bigger rented ship?

Note, i have around 40scu cooking in refinery already

Does mole get same limitation on quant mining in time constraints after scooping?

[marble crater]

pile up the refinery orders then go rent a Constellation Andro for $70K. carries around 100 scu. Mole has the same quant timer like the Prospector

every 2 trips in a Cutty doing sell runs could be another mining run

[safe inlet]

Well, i wont be selling anything till free fly runs out, since my prospector is from free fly.

I'll just mine and refine till it expires

[marble crater]

if you're just starting then doing a couple runs on the Cutty to sell is fine. If you start to really get into mining then the constant small trips will eat into your ability to make credits quickly

[safe inlet]

Well, i have nearly a mil saved up, so i''ll need 4 full quant runs instead of 8

5 or so, so 160scu of quant

[marble crater]

definitely rent a Connie then when you 're ready to cash in

[safe inlet]

Ok, will probably do that, thank you

[marble crater]

160 scu of quant is around $1.4M done well with the free Prospector

[flat zenith]

Hey guys, I'm looking for a TS-2 Quantum drive for my new M2 Herc, I have been to New babbage and now Port Olisar without any luck of finding one, does anyone know if this has been removed from the game or something?

[worthy ibex]

use erkul.games

[flat zenith]

it is on erkul

and all the wikis

but not in the shops

[worthy ibex]

hang on

have you tried cru-l5

[flat zenith]

on my way there now

Nice it's here at cru-l5 cheers

[worthy ibex]

oh nice

[shut vine]

are there rocks at mic l1?

[keen kernel]

How do you get rid of cargo from your ship? Picked up the wrong thing and can't sell it.

[silk ridge]

Should be left Alt + J

[torpid cloud]

How do you get to Aarons halo?? I always find it so hard to get to

[lilac patio]

You can’t unless you have quantanium on board

[safe inlet]

How do you activate surge/stampede modules?

[coarse cape]

@safe inlet any consumable mining modules can be activated by default with alt + 1,2,3

[safe inlet]

Thank you

Now i just gotta figure out what each of those things do

[safe ginkgo]

Any way to retrieve ONLY the quantinium from my refinement?

[coarse cape]

No unless you only selected the quant from the beginning

[rocky holly]

Do you lose your work orders/cargo in ships if you character reset?

[safe ginkgo]

Or any way to remove it once all loaded onto my ship?

[coarse cape]

You can’t remove specific ore/commodities from your cargo hold yet

I’m guessing that will change when the cargo refactor hits tho

[safe inlet]

yay.. my very first full quant load

[obtuse sand]

are rental ships bugged?

my rental prospector’s rental period has ended a long time ago, yet i’m still able to claim and retrieve it

it’s still on the list in the terminals lol

[odd temple]

hi any why to have money from trade ?

any advise how to start and we to go ?

[proud jasper]

can't wait for the vulture. it'll be a cool thing

[topaz minnow]

Yep sometimes, it will reset on the next patch or character reset

[river crow]

yes please

[valid dagger]

does quantanium only spawn in 2 asteroid clusters?

[sour cairn]

no its on moons

[valid dagger]

Its also in asteriods

[sour cairn]

yes

[valid dagger]

and does it ever spawn in singular asteroid locations

[sour cairn]

what do u mean

best place is the halo

[valid dagger]

Halo?

you mean the big asteroid ring around stanton?

[sour cairn]

yes

[valid dagger]

yeah, and in said halo does it only appear in 2 or more asteroid stashes?

as ive never seen it in a singular asteroid

[sour cairn]

u can find a cluster but risky if your solo

[valid dagger]

no, i know that clusters exist im asking if quantanium spawns exclusively in clusters

and not in sigular asteroids

[sour cairn]

no its usually random if you find a cluster theres usually one good rock the rest are just there as display sometimes youll find phantom rocks too

[valid dagger]

what? no im asking if quantanium spawns exclusively in asteroid clusters ,which in turn would mean they wouldn't spawn in singular asteroids.

i dont care about the rarity of clusters

I care about the spawn requirements for quantanium in the asteroid halo

[sour cairn]

always random unless you have someone who has exact quantum jump distance for it

[valid dagger]

no, not the spawn location the spawn requirement for quantanium such as "do they only spawn in exclusively asteroid clusters"

[sour cairn]

short sweet answer all random clusters mean your close or your there

[valid dagger]

what?

the original question was that does quantanium spawn in asteroids that spawn alone

in the halo

yes/no

[sour cairn]

yes and no

most of the time its clusters

if your seeing single asteroids your on the edge of the belt and your not going to see to much action

[valid dagger]

so quantanium does have a chance to spawn in singularly spawned asteroids

theres no in betweens

it either has a chance to spawn or it doesnt

[sour cairn]

no chance go to the middle of the halo

more asteroids means higher chance of quant

less means bigger but harder to find and break

[valid dagger]

ok thanks so it does have a chance but it is significantly lower than asteroid clusters

[sour cairn]

yes

[topaz minnow]

Ive seen solo 49% in halo

Also just saw a video of a eclipse one shotting a C2 which was unsettling

Doubt ill ever fill one with quant

They are not ok with an ion 2 shot on a 1 mill gladius but a bomber can one shot grief a 10 million aeuc load im confused lol

Aeuc^^

[valid dagger]

to be fair eclipse torpedos are size 9 and extremely powerful so it doesn't mean it was carrying quantum and it also ions are much easier to hit with than torpedo's that you can flare off

[fallen sail]

how come when i scan for the boxes i approach the boxes on my scanning thing and then they disappear when i get close

[valid dagger]

ghost rocks, they happen once in a while

[fallen sail]

it keeps happening all the time tho

[valid dagger]

sometimes how full the server is may affect frequency aseptically if your pushing 50+

[sage arch]

do you use mining modules when your ship blows up?

[quasi dragon]

yeah

[fallen sail]

no im using a nomad and roc

[quasi dragon]

they disappear if your ship blows up or you claim it again

[sage arch]

ah

thanks

[quasi dragon]

yeah its a pain

thats why i dont use any

[valid dagger]

like does it happen on every rock?

[fallen sail]

yeah p much

when i get near the box icon

the box icon disspapears

also my roc laser isnt firing so im guessing that i cant mine big rocks

[quasi dragon]

roc laser not firing means the laser is broken

and youll need to reclaim

sometimes it just overheats and it will be okay in a couple of mins

[valid dagger]

so the box icon disappears completely or does it turn into a rock

[fallen sail]

it disappears

[valid dagger]

well looking at the fact that the laser isn't firing either i would switch servers as i think its desyncing

if that doesnt work, ask in #helpdesk ( they might get a little cranky but they'll know)

[lilac patio]

if anyone is in a mole i have a 7k 47 percent quant rock

just found it

or, if someone else is in a prospector

[valid dagger]

well i can help ya mine it with a prospector

[fallen sail]

bruh then this second time in a row this happened

[lilac patio]

sure, my name is INTRO-Tincan42

im in lyria

[valid dagger]

got it

[valid dagger]

wanna vc?

[lilac patio]

sure

[fallen sail]

bruh and my ship disappears when i spawned with the roc i am done for today

at least i got the laser working

[sour cairn]

you need to find diamonds not boxes

[marble crater]

Quant can be found as solo, dual or mass cluster rocks. Bit of a time sink checking out every solo rock though

[summer escarp]

ah, very good to hear! happy mining!

[undone frigate]

Is claiming of ships working??

[cerulean palm]

I still have multiple ships unable to claim. Annoying.

[boreal stag]

hi is this a bug?

i have to deliver this 4 boxes here

but it does nothing

i put one inside

but the 4 doesnt fit together

one exploded

wtf

[brazen thistle]

if i mine, it is desired to keep it only in green ? if there is lets say half in red and full in green, rock didnt fall apart but explode ? or it was just bug ?

[random kite]

It might not necessarily explode but it will send rocks flying

You want no red when the rock breaks. If there are some red then you want as little as possible. The less the better

Anybody want to go mining for some quant? It’s really just I need a second person to help break those bigger rocks. I’m split whatever the estimated profit is 50/50

[brazen thistle]

Hmm.... ok... because this is what happened. we tried to mine with friend and he was full green but the rock blew up and destroy the ship. then we watched last 5 minutes of gameplay and when the green was filled, there was also half of red. as i am new to this, i assume now that red is overcharged, and more red it is when it breaks, the more accumulate energy it has and bigger the explosion is. ofc, if you hit full red first then it blow up right away. Is my assumption correct ?

[random kite]

Ya. That soudns right. Ive never overcharged a rock, so i dont know specifics.

[north oyster]

Well that was fun, QT from station freshly logged in and get Jump Dumped. Killed the game immediately, hopefully I'll respawn with ship back at the station.

Looks like going to market tomorrow is going to be a good payoff. I should have a good number of refinery jobs stacked up by then.

[north oyster]

Red zone is the percentage of "overcharge". Ideal is zero. Even a 10% over charge could result in undesirable results when the rock cracks.

[brazen thistle]

what does it mean get "jump dumped" ? 🤔 interdicted ?

[north oyster]

No, this use to happen a lot, but it is when you do a Quantum Jump from a station to a different point and suddenly you get dumped in deep space and your ship is still on its way there without you.

Or the ATC from the stations claims your ship

[brazen thistle]

So it is still a thing ? 😄 i know it happened few years ago to my friend. then he quit playing 😄

[north oyster]

it is very rare now, I do not recall the last time it happened to me. I even had a crash to desktop during the XenoThreat. So the bugs are still there, just better at hiding

[potent lance]

Is it possible to dump my ore when the game decides to bug out and turn my ore into inert ?

[thin escarp]

@brazen thistle red is very bad.

green only if u dont wanna die or lose the rock

[sharp root]

Question, if I mine quantum does the timer stop once I store my ship at a station?

[brazen thistle]

yes i figured that. we had full green but also half red and rock blown up and killed us 😄 i was outside... but still close enough. and he vaporized with ship. I just wasnt sure if it was bug or is it how i described in my other reply above. until then i thought stone will explode only if full red is reached.

[vestal seal]

Yeah once you store the ship you’re fine

[lament zodiac]

hey all, you guys having trouble today with ore selling terminal?

my ship hasn't been showing up today

[sharp root]

Thank you

[topaz minnow]

Me and my bud have always had issues with ore selling terminal not working, mabee the first couple times i used it, it worked but thats it

[lament zodiac]

Dang, I don't have enough to rent a cargo ship to haul it or enough to refine it to even get to that point... guess I'll just quit playing now that my prospector is useless

[vestal seal]

Do a couple of bounty missions then start refining some loads and whenever you sell your quant or whatever you are mining you should be fine on money

Illegal monitor missions are really quick and pay enough to get you a couple refinery jobs after just a few

[topaz minnow]

Yep bounties-rent cargo-refine-buy cargo

[vestal seal]

I did all my cargo hauling in a rented freelancer misc then just bought a c2

[topaz minnow]

Use rental prospector to save for an ingame one before patch makes it poof

[lament zodiac]

patch makes it poof?

I own my prospector

[strong moon]

where is the best place to mine
quantanium?

[vestal vapor]

Hey all, is there any info out there on the refresh rates of commodities on outposts? From playing around it seems every few minutes new stock appears... Wondering if there is more to it than that.

[tribal imp]

Most of the time it's 10 to 15 min. Sometimes more.

[vestal vapor]

Yeah, I am sitting an outpost trying it out. The first time I could buy like 40 SCU, 1 min refresh then 10 SCU 7 min refresh x2-3 now its taking forever. So there is some kind of randomness or system to it...

I guess perhaps the system actually wants you to haul multiple types of goods

Or create runs where you pickup the same good from multiple locations

[tribal imp]

Better move on to other outposts than wasting your time there waiting. I'd take some titanium, diamond, meds or spirits after buying laranite and agricium

[vestal vapor]

Yeah agreed, that last 1k of laranite took 15min to spawn and was more expensive

[ornate ledge]

whats the best laser intensity to set my roc mining arm to

100%?

[vestal seal]

I don’t have much experience roc mining but usually with any rock I’ll set it to around 100% then when it’s in the green I’ll drop it

[abstract nebula]

how i do this

[analog field]

If you wear a chest armor it bugs it out

The selling Term that is

[spare pewter]

Can you sell cargo from your ship by landing at new babbage commons?

or do you have to land at the space port

[thin escarp]

@lament zodiac rent a connie

[jaunty turret]

Hi late reply so you've prob figured it out by now, but yes you can just land at NB's commons and sell it like that I believe

[spare pewter]

Thanks

[visual karma]

hey guys something ive been wondering is ive been doing large quantity cargo trading on just amount alone, would there be possibly a better cargo these days that might turn a better profit for less product?

[spare pewter]

Not as of right now

[tawny stump]

finally got the c2

[raven scaffold]

@tawny stump congrats!

[whole karma]

Any fix to ships not appearing on trade consoles?

[rain shadow]

Any workaround to Connie cargo bay not dropping items through when closing? Is it a certain amount of items that cause them to glitch through?

[coarse cape]

i personally just open one of the side airlocks and tractor beem things through it

its big enough to fit a body inside so

[rain shadow]

Thx

[warm rapids]

ok a package fell out of my ship

to the ground on arccorp

and i cant land because its just in a random bit of city

do i just abandon the mission?

[left nymph]

Unfortunately

[eager root]

can anyone help me? I can’t access my stuff in my inv

i’m new

shit this is in cargo

my fault

[past current]

Im bug

I cant buy a tractor beam at any station

The buying screen is empty

What shoud i do

[marble crater]

play the fun game of stepping away from the terminal and opening it over & over till it loads

[analog field]

Occasionally mashing the mouse buttons makes it load

[north oyster]

That could be related to server health, much like asteroids not scanning

[vestal seal]

Anyone want to be a mining scout

[rancid egret]

out of curiosity, how much do people make on a single run of cargo hauling ? is the profit dependant on the ship more so than what youre running ?

[marble crater]

No idea about trade details but I make around 100k per run. Not the best money, not the worst either

[worthy ibex]

if you wanna cargo haul, do it during 9t

[rancid egret]

ive only got a Nomad, is it worth or not really ?

[marble crater]

nope, you'll want 500 scu + for trade

[tribal imp]

depends on ship and commodity. for low capacity ship, get some laranite and agricium.

[kindred flame]

can anyone teach me trading i got c2

[north oyster]

Check out Jack Axton's refresher course video on trade on YouTube

Scrap is a good start, short run decent pay

[frank solstice]

this may be a frequently asked question but does anyone know what the cheapest ship is that can hold a ROC-DS

[lavish jewel]

nomad maybe? i know the 1man Roc can

[coarse cape]

Too big for nomad

I know the Connie’s can

And the msr can

Anything that fits an ursa rover really

[gentle roost]

so I have an Andromeda and a MSR and I was curious if either of those ships would be able to turn out decent profits for non-combat ventures.

I tried doing cargo from some website just buying a bunch of stuff and trying to sell it somewhere else but I lost like 200k auec because I couldn't find anywhere to sell it to, so I am lost on how to make $$ doing cargo

[bold yew]

Cargo is not really a big earner this patch. Is ok to move around some stuff in volume, but I think we just need to wait it out until they favor cargo again.

I am guessing because the whole cargo system is being reblanced with the new layer they put in and the cargo refactor.

If your into non combat stuff, I would mine for now.

[kindred flame]

can anyone tell me argo moles build for the mining laser

[waxen coral]

I was thinking about it, and if you can buy raw ore from somewhere then you could refine it and sell it, no?

[gentle roost]

i just wanna learn how to do it properly without losing money

Mining just isnt my thing

[bold yew]

I mean you can make a bit by buying laranite / titanium and selling it back to the main cities. At the same time, I think delivery missions would pay more over time, and they are one of the lowest paying loops in the game.

[gentle roost]

You talking about boxes?

or something else?

I make my money doing group warrant bounties in my combat ships. I dont care about profit as long as I break even. I just want to learn how to do the whole cargo thing without hemorrhaging auec so that I can have options when they spice it up

[marble crater]

Buy from small outposts, sell at the big cities

[north oyster]

Jack Axton's refresher course video on trade will give you some good routes to try. Look him up on YT

[calm flume]

In regards to trading how do I figure out what I need to buy and sell, And where I should do it? I know of uexcorp.space but I can't really understand how to use it.

[hollow sedge]

sctradetools

[hollow sedge]

but you can just look up 3.16 trade routes on youtube

[calm flume]

Ok thanks

[cunning agate]

If you are unable to direct your ROC mining laser with the mouse, what's the corrective action (which button do you need to press)?

G

G is what you press.

[deep raptor]

Hello, anyone know where I can sell scrap, my ships full of it?

[modern smelt]

what should i get for my first cargo ship

[modern smelt]

https://sc-trade.tools/home?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522100i%2522,%2522investment%2522:1000%257D

[cunning agate]

ROC Mining is pretty frustrating. I'm going to let it sit for a couple patches I think.

[tired sapphire]

May someone explain to me in the simplest way possible how scu works?

[cunning agate]

Here @tired sapphire peep this.

[tired sapphire]

Ty

[cunning agate]

A Standard Container Unit is a box that is 1.25 meters square, with 1 meter square internal volume. These are grouped into units as per the diagram.

Or, there are larger containers that obtain efficiency by not having so much wall space.

[tawny stump]

Is scrap sellable now?

[quartz ledge]

Want to take break from Bounty Hunting and question is: is rental Prospector decent when it comes to mining since you can't mod rentals?

[north oyster]

Yes, but you don't sell it at Port Olisar any longer. You sell at a couple of different LaGrange points. ARC-L1, HUR-L5 (I think) and a few others. I don't have it memorized yet. Might can get the list from SC Trade Tools

[north oyster]

The rental is very limited because you can not modify the laser head. It has also been discovered that you can crack larger rocks in space than you can on a planet surface (for some odd reason). SuperMacBrothers did a "how to make money with a rental Prospector" that I will link in a bit.

[north oyster]

patch 3.14 just about tanked ROC mining all together and CIG has ignored it since. It sort of works (at best) but isn't the game play that it was before 3.14.

[north oyster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYTjNnzHqO8

[quartz ledge]

found it, watching it now 😉

[north oyster]

Ryan of SMB has an excellent channel, highly recommend giving him a follow

[hoary monolith]

is solo mining in a MOLE any more fun than a prospector? I know it is more profitable (Lyria vs Aaron halo), but is it more relaxing or entertaining?

[north oyster]

"more fun" is a relative term. I mine in a Prospector because I don't want to have to jump from the pilot's seat and run to one of the mining seats. So the immersion is better as a solo player with the Prospector, imo.

I have been prospecting and mapping the Halo to try to see if there are better spots for Quantainium in certain areas over others. I have recently moved out to the 6th band of the asteroid belt and there has been way more Quantainium there. I will keep searching and testing the results.

[marble crater]

It's kind of a hassle but quite fun learning to solo crack the 7-8T rocks you find on Lyria.
It's overall alot more involved where your positioning really matters (so you don't have to keep doing trips up & down the ladder)

There's a definite satisfaction to the process when you first start doing 70+ scu runs

[silk ridge]

I hope I can afford a transport vessel at some point ingame ... even delivery missions are more profitable than mi ing if you have to rent ships 🤣

[hoary monolith]

even the Aurora can do box missions and it is cheap

caro running can be a bit iffy until you can something like a C2

bounty hunting is still the most consistent money once you have a fighter that works with your playstyle

[silk ridge]

Sure, I have C8 for box missions ... I mean a ship to haul refined stuff XD If I have to rent a ship, profits are basically no existent.

Bounty missions are sadly off the table ... I'm awfully bad in space combat 🤣

[north oyster]

Take a look at the Freelancer MAX, I think it is the cheapest cost per SCU in-game. Just a little over 2M for 120 SCU hauling

[hoary monolith]

The connie taurus is only a little more expenceve and has 174 SCU

thats what I got with money from refining

[silk ridge]

I'll probably grind for a Freelancer which I can use to store refined ore and haul it to sell. xD

For larger stuff I'll go with the RAFT (when it's available again), simply because I love it's cockpit more than any other cargo ship. ...

[hoary monolith]

if you fill a rented connie andromida you can make profit - thats how I saved for my taurus

[north oyster]

Not sure a million more in expense is "a little more" expensive. I have both ships, and both server the functions well

[hoary monolith]

stack refinery jobs until you can make several runs in a day filling a cargo ship each time

[hoary monolith]

I misremembered the price - good catch

[north oyster]

Heck, the cutty makes a good hauler. You can only do one run at a time but it's cheap and works well for that function

The idea is to build your warchest of funds to be able to buy whatever you want in-game. I won't be happy until I get over 100M aUEC saved back up

Previous to the wipe, I was on a 1M/day pace. Now it's a lot slower at about 2 to 4 Million aUEC per week. But stacking up refinery jobs is fun in its own right too

[silk ridge]

I have a hard time mining atm. because I blow up alot for some reason ... last time without even being half way to the green are ... some day I'll get to where I can make money instead of burning it 🤣

[north oyster]

what are you using to control the laser power level? Mouse wheel? That is really the only thing you will need to address to take it to the next level.

it blowing up means you are overcharging it, stay out of the red all the time. If you use surge you have a 100% overcharge rate increase and a 200% shatter damage penalty. It doesn't play nice with mistakes. I would suggest adding LifeLine consumable for a bit until you get more accurate with the mining

[silk ridge]

The last time I wasn't even half way through the white.

No idea why I blew up.

[north oyster]

not sure what the deal is there, I'd have to see it on video or something. Unless there is an issue with the ship itself. I have had problems that I encountered that made no sense and it didn't clear up until I did a character reset.

One time my FPS dropped to single digits after a few minutes of play. It wouldn't go away (it started with XenoThreat) until I did a reset on the character, then all was good.

[silk ridge]

Maybe I have to do this. Need to read up what gets lost during reset tho.Never had to do one.

[north oyster]

Take the Lancet off of the Prospector. You will probably loose a few items like food & drink. And maybe guns and a component or two, but you will not loose any aUEC or ships.

You log into the webpage of your account and go to settings. I've done it dozen of times.

I had a time when two of my ships would never repair. So I had to do a character reset

[silk ridge]

Maybe I remove all components from the ship and store it. Got powerplant and shield switched for stealthier ones. xD

Even if things gett lost. If it fixes the problem, it's worth it.

[north oyster]

yes, I would say replace the customs back with stock. Don't leave it blank on the ship

[silk ridge]

I just realize that this would also offer a chance to set my primary residence to Lorville instead of New Babbage ... Respawn in a location with better performance alone is worth it 🤣

[north oyster]

yes, that also. I chose Area18 for myself. NB was my original home also

[terse creek]

Hey fellow miners ! I try to do stats about how much time we save with/without a scout, solo mining in lyria and the Belt !
The point is to know how precisely efficient is a scout help 🙂 Thanks for the help.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10V1SAt5TRYmP8VOR__Ri913SHOEmfttw5tfznSwvCBs/edit?usp=sharing

Plus, if anyone can Pin this if possible

[marble crater]

I didn't realise people used scouts when using a Prospector didn't think there would be enough margins to cover one

[north oyster]

Scouts really help a ton. I general pay a flat rate per rock and also do a "bonus" if they find a particularly juicy rock

[marble crater]

Interesting, I've gotten scouts on for Mole trips and they jump onto a 2nd laser when we find a quant patch but never thought to have one in a Prospector situation. It's definitely faster having one

[terse creek]

I spend more time looking for rocks than mining and refining them. Also, It can help new player with small ship win some easy money 🙂 we had some conversation about rentability on "looking-for-group" channel

[marble crater]

I guess I think differently as I normally pay my scout around $200K per run

[terse creek]

It was just an esquisse, plus in mole you do bigger run. I try to find the price, but it was a random pay number 😉

[marble crater]

definitely would be great for a newer player to make some easy credits and learn to use the scanner etc

[terse creek]

But 30k is sure not a lot, so i hope the Sheet will provide some rentability informations

[north oyster]

Obviously you can't pay 200K per run in a Prospector. I normally do a flat rate of 30k or 50k with bonus.

[marble crater]

50K is still really good. My scout also has to double as a laser operator and also does all the collecting so I figure it's fair they get a nice cut

[gritty island]

I haven’t mined since before last wipe

Can u still get stuck in the prospectors seat

[north oyster]

I think they have fixed both the getting stuck in seat and the ship killing you when you try to climb the ladder

Get the Lancet laser head, the Helix isn't the top dog for mining like it use to be. Lancet is really inexpensive and the best one for Quantainium. I think CIG will soon mess this up on an upcoming build, but for now it is the meta

[silk ridge]

What about Laranite and Bexalite? Is the Helix better for those or does the Lancet have the top spot for all materials?

[north oyster]

absolutely, the Helix slices through all those like a hot knife through butter, however, those only earn you a fraction of what quantainium can earn you. So the demand for the helix isn't there. When the market becomes more dynamic and allows for better pricing demand for ore, then the Helix will shine again.

[silk ridge]

I like very chill mining with no time pressure. But I like it when the laser does it's work a bit faster. 😂

I think I give the Helix a try then. If I want to go for Quant, I'lls surely go for the lancet.

[stable lion]

Is there lancet for moles as well?

[silk ridge]

Ya, the size 2 Lancet

[bronze pier]

Almost a full one soo sad 😭

[north oyster]

wow, a +842K aUEC run. Not bad at all. Less than 4 min to crit, did you make it?

[bronze pier]

Off course we were at arcl1 at that time

My friend was driving while i took it

Thats sad cause we got a 99.01% on the last purple

[north oyster]

heard that, LOL

[bronze pier]

But still stonks tho

:D

[north oyster]

right? that's pretty awesome

[bronze pier]

Yup

In one hour we did 2 runs, one with 77scus and one with 95 x)

[north oyster]

My turn around on the Prospector is so fast that I never hear the alarm go off, so it always startles me when I do hear it.

[bronze pier]

Im a great scout

[north oyster]

I've been exploring the different bands in the Halo and trying to see if there is a pattern to the Quan spawn and if some areas are better. I will say that Band 6 has been very surprising. I was getting bad rolls from the server as to the % in each rock, but there was tons of Quantainium easily found there. I still have more research to do.

[bronze pier]

We are on Lyria with a MOLE

And thats stonks

Im lucky while scouting soo it helps

[north oyster]

Lyria is the motherlode for Quan, I just enjoy being away from planets. I plan to use scouts more in the near future, I think it will make a massive difference in the earnings.

[past current]

Is roc mining whort it ?

[thin escarp]

i never mine without a scout

but

i only mole mine.

😄

[boreal jacinth]

Every time I try and mine the only rocks minable are 60% inert and all the high value are scanable but not minable

[gleaming marlin]

I've figured out how to mine and refine, but I flew down to New Babbage and I'm at the TDD terminal, and they seem to have 0 interest in buying any of my stuff, even though everything I've read online says to sell at major TDD panels. Is this a bug, or am I in the wrong place?

[boreal jacinth]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

Try using this to find where to sell.

[rotund silo]

If Trade Tools says they're buying, it's a bug. First time I traded A18 wouldn't take my Bex and I couldn't figure out why. Server hopping might help, or retrieving/restoring ship

[gleaming marlin]

thank ye kindly

[analog field]

@north oyster i've been Going from hur-1 to arc-4 and dropping out at the first band and having decent luck. fair number of quant rocks and usually can find a 25%+rock in 10 minutes

[north oyster]

ROC mining needs some love. It works, but barely

[north oyster]

I'll need to revisit the first band and test that

[cunning agate]

Don't do it.

[past current]

Ok

I already have a propstor i was curious about the roc

[analog field]

Roc mining is fine for money but it's a pain in the ass cause they don't show up until you are under 1.6ish KM and they like the spawn in rocks

[past current]

What is the best quantum drive for a prospector

[marble crater]

Roc mining is fun for a change of pace but sucks for credits. Just my opinion.

[vital basin]

lancet or helix

[ruby moth]

those are ming heads.....

@past current atlas or voyage for an upgrade to your quantum drive would be ideal

[past current]

K thx

[north oyster]

I think with the Atlas you have to also upgrade your power plant.

Band 6 in Aaron's Halo has Quantainium galore. 4 runs, 810k aUEC out the refinery door

[silk ridge]

Flew for fun into the Halo to look for Laranite but found a Quantanium Rock with enough to fill my Prospektor right at first Ping. XD ...

I didn't blow up and the refinery has work to do. Guess that brings almost as much money as my first week ingame lmao

[analog field]

Quant really is the way to go. I am still unsure if it's all RNG or if it does have an increased percent of quant

[silk ridge]

It's just luck. If you check rocks for a while, you'll find a good one. ^^

[vestal seal]

Anyone looking to be a scout on lyria

[worthy ibex]

Anyone got a good guide for a noob like me to start mining?

With a prospector btw

[magic plover]

damn I rented a prospector, bought a lancet, then realized that you cant modify rental ships

[bronze pier]

[safe inlet]

Full load of Hadanite used to be worth around 260k, just as much as a full quant load.

But they nerfed it

[silk ridge]

Best check mining guides for 3.16(.1) on YouTube. There's a ton of great guides. Helped me alot! (There are also alot of good tips and links in the Pins)

[north oyster]

Here's a great review by Farrister he just put out on my favorite ship:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuA_P39130M

[north oyster]

Actually the luck part is what I'm trying to eliminate. I've documented over 40 points into Aaron's Halo, noting how fast you can find Quantainium and how often you find it. Dropping into Band 6 has been way more productive than any other bands I've searched up to this point. I still need to search more of the bands, but I might pause my research while I have million dollar days for awhile working out of Band 6.

To find Band 6, using CRU-L1 to ARC-L3 as an example. Drop out of QT at 10.9M Km. I've made 6 trips to this area yesterday (two unproductive because of game or RL interrupts). Pulled 92 SCU pretty quickly (except one trip).

[silk ridge]

I took a few trips from CRU L1 to ARC L3(I believe) and dropped out at random spots, just to take a look. Didn't take more than 5 minutes to find a good rock that would have filled my Prospector

[hollow sedge]

Depends

Isn’t the Vk-00 the fastest?

It eats fuel like a bitch but you don’t really do long distance runs in a prospector anyway

[silk ridge]

I personally use the Atlas, but I also don't pressure myself to optimization. 🤣
And I'm too lazy to change from Travel to Mining build.

But true, the Atlas isn't needed if you just fly one short route to your mining spot and the refinery. ... Just don't forget to refuel 🤣

[hollow sedge]

Ship to ship refueling is coming this month or next I think

So you can always pay someone to save you

Just hope it doesn’t run out while u have quant in ur cargo

Raw quant that is

[silk ridge]

I stay as far away from people outside my friends list as possible. The risk of meeting a griefer is just too high as long as there's no long established group like the fuel rats in Elite.

[worthy ibex]

would it be worth buying a c2 for transporting refind quant

cuz i plan on like just doing a bunch of quant runs and filling up a c2 at the end of the week

[hollow sedge]

Yes

That’s exactly what I did yesterday lol

[worthy ibex]

you get like 6 mil for a full c2 right?

[hollow sedge]

Plus if you ever get bored of mining for a bit, you can run cargo for a bit

Make 100k a run roughly

Takes 10-15 mins

[worthy ibex]

my plan is to just grind at least 100scu worth of quant a day

[hollow sedge]

6.124 mil

[worthy ibex]

then bounty hunt

[hollow sedge]

Per full c2

Not bad

I aim for 150-200

Depending on how much I play

[worthy ibex]

yeah but i wanna squeeze in some bounty hunting

but tbh i got a lot of assignments coming up so idk how that’ll go for me

[terse creek]

and the city terminal buy all quant in once ?

[hollow sedge]

Yes

[safe inlet]

They buy it all and then sell you fuel back at a rate ;)

[proud jasper]

When will all freelancers be capable of holding rocs

[vast hinge]

omg, is anyone actually in here that can help with some questions

[silk ridge]

Depends on your questions 😆

[hollow sedge]

What’s ur question

[hollow sedge]

Never lol

They would need to change the ship completely

They aren’t meant to even hold the roc

[silk ridge]

Is there limit of refinery jobs you can stack?

[proud jasper]

I heard they where going to be widened slightly to allow a roc to be put into the cargo bays

[terse creek]

up, i can't find the info 🙂

[ruby moth]

yea I wasn't focused on FASTEST. the Atlas/Voyage are solid upgrades that will allow you to travel long distances if you need to. In the short distances that a prospector generally travels as you mentioned, the VK-00 won't make that much difference in time. But for long distances, the VK-00 won't let you do it in one jump.

[thin escarp]

@silk ridge there is no limit

i've had well over 50 refinery orders

@worthy ibex somewhere around 6 mil yes

generally do 2-3 c2 runs of quant a week

[silk ridge]

Nice. Guess I make some orders today.

Hope the RAFT is available at some time xD I refuse to buy other ships in it's class 🤣

Renting ships burns too much money 🤣

[north oyster]

that makes for about an 850K aUEC per day grind. I did 4 trips and pulled 92 SCU yesterday

[north oyster]

OK, what's up? We will try to help with questions

[north oyster]

RAFT will be in the ingame ship dealership next patch.

[silk ridge]

🤣 I hope so ... can't wait. Would even throw IRL money at them if it was available xD

[north oyster]

that's why you want to buy like the hover bike for $25 with LTI so you can CCU up to the RAFT this July

[silk ridge]

That's honestly the sole purpose for that Hover Quad in my hangar It's waiting for the RAFT

[north oyster]

yeah, that's the sole purpose the 400i is for my Hull C CCU when it comes out, LOL

[silk ridge]

Does the LTI transfer multiple times?
So I could go
Hoverquad > Reliant Kore > something else > RAFT

or do I have to go from Quad directly to RAFT?

[north oyster]

yes, as long as you never melt, you're good

[eager moat]

I just about earned enough for a Cat or C2. thoughts or preferences?

[north oyster]

C2 - better cargo, better performance, etc

[eager moat]

that's what I'm thinking. Cat seems very dedicated.

[silk ridge]

Nice. multiple smaller upgrades are better than 80+$ in one go. xD

[north oyster]

ProTip for landing on an outpost pad with a C2... land sideways on the pad. The C2 fits perfectly on the small pad that way because the ship's landing gear is short but very wide

[silk ridge]

Landing a C2 .... is an experience xD

[north oyster]

she's a big girl and she will take a bow occasionally

[limber holly]

if I fly my friend's hauler, can I use it to transport my refined metals from the refinery?

also hi how are you etc

[north oyster]

No, unfortunately, only the owner of the ship can sell, only your ships can you put your refined ores on

[limber holly]

alright. Thanks for the info!

[bold yew]

The C2 is pretty much better in every way, so I went with the Cat because I liked it 🙂

[silk ridge]

I'm saving a bunch of refinery jobs over the next days and rent a freelancer to haul it in a few trips later. Makes a million at least for 50K cost max. ... I consider that a good deal xD

[bold yew]

Ya, that is another thing. Without the events there is really nothing for larger cargo ships to do. Moving quant around is more than fine in a mid lvl hauler like a cutty or freelancer.

Trade is not really a thing this patch. I am guessing it will be in one of the next patches though.

[north oyster]

The Freelancer MAX and the Taurus are my two standard Quan haulers. I did have a larger refinery clean out this weekend, so the M2 was used to save having to make two trips

[gentle roost]

Is the msr good for cargo running?

[north oyster]

A small amount of cargo, it's not really much of a cargo hauler at 114 SCU (less than the MAX at 120)

fun ship otherwise, very fun ship

[cinder narwhal]

anyone wanna get on and mine with one argo m and sum prosp?

[waxen coral]

Which is better for solo mining prospecter or mole?

[cinder narwhal]

prosp bud

[waxen coral]

thought so

[north oyster]

Prospector was designed for solo, while the MOLE can be used solo but with some extra effort and time. I would suggest the Prospector and then if you love mining, then buy the MOLE with what you earn with the Prospector

[analog field]

The mole is super immersive and quite fun but you don't want it to be your ONLY mining ship lol

[vestal seal]

Anyone want to scout for me on lyria

[marble crater]

Solo Mole is worse in every way except for scu space. The only advantage is when you get to wanting to try solo cracking the big rocks/clusters on Lyria. Mole is however amazing if you mine with friends

[silk ridge]

I kinda like the thought of hauling/mining/exploring stuff in a huge industrial rust-bucket ... not sure why, but I like the vibe of that thought XD

[tired sapphire]

But can you make more with the mole?..

[north oyster]

I think so if on a solo basis. It would be close, but I won't have to work so hard as the solo MOLE pilot

[analog field]

Very very rare to find enough quant to fill a mole solo

[silk ridge]

Technically yes ... you can fit one turret with stuff that benefits breaking rocks and one turret with all Filters to get more Ore. .. I think it would make more money.

[marble crater]

you also need to learn how to solo crack the 7T+ rocks if going the Mole option

or mine in a group

[thin escarp]

@tired sapphire i make on average. 650k+ a run

lately. around 750k each run

[tired sapphire]

With what ship

[thin escarp]

Mole

@tired sapphire

[tawny path]

anyone want to do group prospector mining?

or mining in general

[rotund silo]

I wish I could, my Prospectyor keeps randomly blowing up for no reason

[tawny path]

oof

[peak fern]

Best place to find Hadanite? I had read that the Daymar OM-1 location had a lot but I'm finding zilch.

[marble crater]

Aberdeen or Arial near Hurston

[peak fern]

Appreciate you.

[marble crater]

enjoy one of the most frustrating gameplay loops in 3.16

[peak fern]

How do you mean?

And any tips?

I’ve got a rented Cutlass (which is passed the 24hr mark lmao) and my ROC.

[marble crater]

it's just buggy. worth trying if you've never done it before

[peak fern]

I’m working towards either a Warlock or a Cutlass Black and I’ve seen HADA is good money.

[tawny path]

quant is good as well if you can find the smaller rocks

[peak fern]

Can you find them on the surface? Or just asteroids?

[marble crater]

can't mine Quant in a ROC

[peak fern]

I think I’ll try it out eventually. I’m still just a few weeks in yet.

[tawny path]

i miss understood my b

[peak fern]

That and the stability timer is a little intimidating lol.

[marble crater]

ROC ain't too bad to mine under 100K worth. it's when you try to fill it up that really tests your patience

[peak fern]

Does it get a little explody with a heavier load?

From what I’ve read into, a full ROC can fetch around 200k

[marble crater]

moreso that the bugs will drive you insane

[peak fern]

Bugs and SC go hand in hand 😂

Don’t overfill though, got it. Appreciate the help!