industrial-professions

[thin escarp]

so i'd be careful

[pastel flame]

I for sure can't run scrap to Olisar from CRU L1

[pastel flame]

Managed to sell at HURL5

[lament loom]

I wonder if you can do good quant mining with a MOLE

[astral oasis]

Anyone try and see if scrap is fixed

[halcyon brook]

Have the fixed the issue with the ROCs charge UI yet?

[analog field]

Far as i can tell no to both lol

Scrap is hit or miss

[halcyon brook]

🤦🏻‍♂️ ah well, maybe next time

[crisp canopy]

where are people finding quantanium these days?

[cinder narwhal]

lyria

btw anyone wanna mine with me

[crisp canopy]

man mining on the ground kinda scares me

[finite lion]

Wtf ?

[crisp canopy]

wym

[lyric peak]

I feel like the belt got a nerf in quant

Spent an hour yesterday roaming were as before it maybe took me at most 30 min

Lyria felt the same@took me 10-15 min to find some deposits

[tawny mortar]

Same here but was at the belt, hardly found any quant. Almost run out fuel cos I was looking for so long.

[pastel flame]

What im talking about 3 messages above you XD

[steel flame]

what's best shield for a HERCULE ?

[steel flame]

and canon ? there are many choices but no statistics

[sacred idol]

I mean your not going out fighting with it, do you need one?

[steel flame]

yes I would like to be able to defend myself effectively by doing great damage to my attackers

[sacred idol]

c2?

[steel flame]

yes

[sacred idol]

Lightstrike Vs pack a punch

[steel flame]

?

[sacred idol]

https://www.erkul.games/loadout/1Xqeowma

this is mine

[steel flame]

thank you i will look at that

Isn't there better in terms of rate of fire and damage than the cannon Lightstrike V ?

M7A looks a bit better i don't know what you think

[thin escarp]

@lament loom I average almost 700k a run in my mole every 30 minutes

[lament loom]

Interesting

What do you mine?

[thin escarp]

@tawny mortar @lyric peak @crisp canopy I have a mining guide pinned in this channel aswell as I can send you guys my scouting guide for quant.

@lament loom just quantanium

[lament loom]

and it doesn't blow up in the time it takes to like

collect 100 scu?

[thin escarp]

nope

[lament loom]

very interesting

[thin escarp]

break it all down first. then I scoop.

[lament loom]

Lyria I assume?

[thin escarp]

then head to my next rock. I use a scout ina fast ship. aswell

so I just jump from rock to rock to refinery

when I get to the last rock in my load. when we scoop it. aslong as it's more than 10 scu worth. your timer will go up.

[lament loom]

interesting

[thin escarp]

because your adding more stability.

[lament loom]

wait wait

[thin escarp]

giving some extra needed time to get back safely.

[lament loom]

so mining more quant increases the timer?

[thin escarp]

yes.

[lament loom]

Ooh, I didn't know that

[thin escarp]

scooping up more quant after adds to the timer

[lament loom]

I thought it's straight up 15 mins and that's all you get

[thin escarp]

has to be more than 10 scu

nope. now it doesn't reset the timer but it does go up.

highly recommend my mining guide pinned in this channel. def changed some miners lives with it haha

[lyric peak]

im gonna make an app to calculate return on quant. would anyone use it?

[topaz coyote]

save your time Sudsman.. once you been mining quant long enough you can do it on the fly...

[sacred idol]

What’s the best way to scout for it?

[topaz coyote]

clusters of rocks

[crisp canopy]

Ill have a look when i get home, thank u

[lament loom]

I'll give it a look

[ancient wyvern]

hey all, Whats the best laser for a ROC? is it the defualt or should i get another

[thin escarp]

@ancient wyvern can't change laser on it

[ancient wyvern]

ight

that answers that thanks cross

[south tapir]

Hello! anyone is having troubles with trading posts consoles? or do I have to do some requirement to be able to select my ship? I'm basically parked beside it and I cannot select my ship

[hoary monolith]

is there a way to lock the scan mode reticle? I use head tracking and it is annoying to need to turn it off or hold my head really still while scanning.

[sacred idol]

What is the ship with the biggest cargo gold that I can rent? Don’t see an easy way to find this info

[thorn terrace]

with active modules when i run out of uses do i need to rebuy the module or can i just resupply it at a landing pad?

[north oyster]

Buy them

[thorn terrace]

bruh

[north oyster]

Also, none of the modules persist if ship is lost

[thorn terrace]

like if i claim my ship?

[north oyster]

Correct

[thorn terrace]

whats the best loadout for a prospector solo mining so that i can break big rocks, like i have a surge, stampade and optium module

dont even know which one to use

[crisp canopy]

most people use the lancet i think

I use the lancet, surge, stampede and FLTR-XL

[glacial dagger]

Personally, if you're looking to go quant mining in a prospector, and you dont mind being a bit picky, a Lancet I with 2x ReigerC3s and 1x VauxC3 and go mining in the aaron halo. So long as you stick to quant rocks at 25%-30% or higher, you should pretty much fill your prospector every time you scoop 😄

And for all the players who say you cant go quant mining with a stock prospector...yes, yes you absolutely can

[thorn terrace]

im going to surge, reiger C3 and torrent 3 for mining big rocks on lyria

[hybrid arch]

anyone wanting to crew a mole or get a mining team together?

[thorn terrace]

cause lyria has big rocks and im looking for those

[hybrid arch]

@thorn terrace even if you serge wont the heat drop again cuz the mining laser you using cant keep the heat up?

[glacial dagger]

But if your going in a prospector, you wont have the capacity to scoop up all of the larger rocks, meaning leaving stuff behind

[thorn terrace]

im using lancet

[hybrid arch]

if you would rather use a mole @thorn terrace i have one

also i found belt mining is the best

as you get a bunch of rucks at near 40% quant in one bundle

[thorn terrace]

cool, if you want to do mining hmu

[hybrid arch]

finishing a card game and il be on

[ancient wyvern]

what mining laser do i want For A prospector?

to be able to crack the 5000 size rock

[north oyster]

the Lancet is the meta for the past several builds. It is also one of the most economical purchases too. Best for Quantainium, etc

Add the Surge consumable and you've got the bases covered.

[north oyster]

That spot do you hit in Aaron's Halo? Between CRU-L1 to ARC-L3? Or ARC-L1 to Hurston? I'm always looking for tips of good spots. I have found the outer edges of the belt tend to give the best results.

[hybrid arch]

arc l1 to hur l3

cru l3

mb

[north oyster]

I run CRU-L1 to ARC-L3 and drop out between 11.5M and 11.3M Km

[hybrid arch]

you want toj oin us?

[north oyster]

Thanks, I'm still at work for many more long hours 😦

[random kite]

anybody want to join me for mining?

[chrome glade]

@violet narwhal freshly installed and same issue

[hollow sedge]

what’s better lyria or aaron halo?

or even microtech

[odd snow]

Lyria

[delicate girder]

Would you say that these days even for a single player with Helix or Lancet head Prospector?

[quiet dove]

I've just spent 2 hours in the halo and came out with nearly nothing, was easy picking before patch or maybe I just struck out on this occasion

[hollow sedge]

Anyone notice anything strange with ROC mining? It seems that the deposits now vary in size and have much higher yield

as in between a range of .95 and .65

[odd snow]

Yep, ppl do it all the time. I solo in a mole on Lyria

actually headed there as we speak

[hollow sedge]

what's the difference between lancet mh1 and mh2

[odd snow]

mh1 = prospector. mh2 = mole

[hollow sedge]

ohhh okay good to know 👍

thanks

[analog field]

I'll have to check the roc mining

[steep wind]

what are some good attachments for a prospecter?

[hollow sedge]

depends

[delicate girder]

Did they fixed the hopping Mole bug when you get out of the pilot seat?

[obsidian stone]

Dead Mineral Deposits are still a thing, correct?

[odd snow]

nope

[obsidian stone]

I'm finding a LOT of them in the Halo.

[delicate girder]

That nope may have been for me.

[quiet dove]

Yup, had loads in the halo most of which looked like quant

[obsidian stone]

I might even say its even worse now.

[delicate girder]

Do those dead rocks happen on Lyria too?

[obsidian stone]

I would say less likely in my experience.

[delicate girder]

Is mining in a prospector worth it these days compared t the other ways of making money? I'm more into ship bounty hunting but did like mining in 3.13 before the dead roids problem was a thing.

[hollow sedge]

im making decent money, about 500k an hour with mining, but it's all preference, im sure you can get up to a mil an hour with bounty hunting going for vhrt and ert group bounties

[delicate girder]

I guess the events which are coming around the 17th on JT and XT right? Is 9T coming back too?

[obsidian stone]

It's just XT
No word on NT or JT

[delicate girder]

I guess I could probably get on the PTU to test it.

[steep wind]

whats the best refining option for max profit for quant?

[odd snow]

dinyx

[north oyster]

They did something with the patch, I searched for almost an hour and found a total of three Quantainium rocks. All under 4%

[steep wind]

how do i use the surge and brant modules while mining?

[halcyon brook]

Opposite here. Found 2x 40% plus about 10 mins after setting out each time. Not out in Halo though, I think something has happened out there

[marble crater]

Seeing alot more bugged rocks in the Halo now. Going to do some planet mining and see if that's better

[halcyon brook]

Yeah I jumped from Halo to planet for the same reason.

[north oyster]

I'll be sad if I'm forced to mine on the surface

[marble crater]

Yeah I enjoy jumping between both options. Good to mix things up but Halo was pretty rough for me yesterday. Never seen so many bugged rocks

9 player server too with great fps performance

[hollow sedge]

u mean surge and stampede?

[steep wind]

I figured it out

[halcyon brook]

Modules confuse me. Why in the long distant future would we be inventing physical modules that can’t be recharged and reused. Lore nowhere

[lapis magnet]

How much aUEC do you guys typically make a day? I just want to know if there's something I should be doing

[hollow sedge]

if you do let's say 10 jobs a day consistently you'll be getting around 2-3 mil

that's in respect to prospector mining with 32 scu

[lapis magnet]

Jobs as in 10 or so quant rocks?

[hollow sedge]

10 loads of 32 scu

or even around 25

i've done about 15 full loads today

[lapis magnet]

Gotcha, I've bene on lyria for a while, but my luck hasnt been the best lately, so I havent found any decent rocks in a while

Think I got enough to fill my MSR in 6-7 hours worth of rock hunting yesterday

thats only around a million in profit though 😦

[hollow sedge]

lyria? that's weird im mining there rn

[prisma raptor]

have ROC will mine for ride

[hollow sedge]

maybe rejoin a server

[steep wind]

lyria has been great for me today

[hollow sedge]

what's your methods of finding rocks?

[lapis magnet]

Go to lyria, fly around 20-30 km from drop point, look for clusters of 2 or more. If I find nothing after 10-15 minutes I hit a OM and find another outpost to fly around.

I'm finding plenty of rocks, but they're all like 2% quant, or mostly inert

[hollow sedge]

did you check every single rock in the cluster, because usually there is always one with a high percentage

[lapis magnet]

Last night I had close to 45 rocks in a row that were trash.

always

[hollow sedge]

damn

you at arc l1?

[lapis magnet]

I had 2 clusters of 10 rocks, and a pair within 10000 m of each other, and they were all lame

I am

[hollow sedge]

okay try this then, it's another method that has worked for me

set your way point to cru l4, drop out of quantum at around 15mil km and search for rocks of 2 clusters , ignore 3, or even high number clusters

if you get a 4k mass rock at 30-40% that's your unicorn

[lapis magnet]

Cool! I'll try that now, thanks!

[hollow sedge]

np :))

[green coyote]

Best place to handmine me new

[analog field]

Any of the cave missions

[analog field]

Under search missing client

[runic aurora]

anyone have quantanium mining tips? What head to use? What modules? Im kinda lost

[analog field]

Check out the stickied guide

@runic aurora

[runic aurora]

cheers mate, thanks

[dusky oriole]

Any money to be made of cargo running in this patch?

[analog field]

Not really, it's still low supply, can make cash but not a ton

[coarse cape]

its just slow for making cash

[analog field]

Quant mining is def the cash cow for low stress

[raven fjord]

Got the cutless black starter ship, am i going to be best doing delivery missions?

[analog field]

Roc mining is good

4k to rent

[bold yew]

Do you loose all your modules when your prospector blows up, even the non consumable ones?

[odd snow]

yup

[bold yew]

Ok, just making sure that was normal. I have had stuff bug out on other ships.

and... ooof

[marble crater]

keep the mining head, lose everything else

same if you need to claim it

[bold yew]

humm I might want to practice with vaux normals instead of vaux-c3 humm

[marble crater]

can get expensive

[bold yew]

Is not normally an issue, but am a bit tighter after buying the ship than I normally am 😅

[marble crater]

surge, stampede and brandt modules are a decent low cost option too

[analog field]

I run a focus 2 and two torrent 2s can crack anything in the belt no problem

[bold yew]

Ill try both combos (im sure I will blow another ship up sooner than latter) ty

[analog field]

My combo cracks a touch slower but very very safe

[bold yew]

that is what I need as a new prospector miner I think

Although to be fair, that rock would not have nuked if my mining interface didnt stop working

[marble crater]

if you're ever in doubt just stop the laser, let it cool down and start again

can retry as many times as you need but if you blow it up, it's done

[odd snow]

If you're using a Lancet, it's almost always better to go to 0% and keep the laser going as it keeps the green zone bigger, which MAY get you out of the red sooner.

[analog field]

I've only blown up because i looked away from cracking a smaller rock

[north oyster]

Deliveries, but will make way more money with Bounty Hunting.

[bold yew]

Humm the whole jettison cargo is not working :/

[north oyster]

Quan going critical? That's only when it works and WITH the QT engine OFF

@crimson mantle Has there been any changes in the ore distribution in Aaron's Halo? Like the quantity of Quantainium?

[bold yew]

ya tried that, I was ok but I only picked up a super little amount

I am pretty sure being in and out of mining mode did not help was trying alt+j I dont think it worked at least...

[analog field]

@north oyster i feel it changes day by day cause i jump to the same spot near every time

Or could just be pure rng

[north oyster]

I dropped out of QT one time and the ship did a shutter, the Quantainium went critical right then. I tried to jettison the load but it failed (not sure if having the QT engine on caused that) and boom

[bold yew]

I had so little like I acidentially hoovered a small amount in so I was going to eject it then get the rest in space. It just poofed, so did my nice space rock too

[north oyster]

This is not a little change, this is "no body is home" vacancy. And all the other ore was trash. I tried all the spots plus many more in the belt. I found only 4 rocks total after a couple of hours

[analog field]

I just mined yesterday, so unless it was an over night change i found two 49% 5k quant rocks

[north oyster]

And all those rocks were 2% except one at about 5%

[analog field]

In about an hour

[north oyster]

OK, that's good. Maybe the dice gods hate me

[analog field]

So either the just changed it or rng took a big poo on ya

[north oyster]

Where was the general area you had those hits?

[analog field]

Between hur 2 and arc 4 at about 8.9m from arc

That's generally where i set up

Have had good luck but also have had a 2 hour stretch of trash

[marble crater]

tried 4 different spots on Aarons and best I found was 15% 5T. Went to Lyria 3 times now and found 30%+ in under 15 minutes each time. I feel kinda forced to do planet mining now

[analog field]

I just found a 49% one

But belt seems lighter than usual

Scanning works smoother though

[torn moss]

Anyone know if they nerfed spawns in lyria, literally since the patch have not found great rocks to fill the mole

its been bad

[torn moss]

lol just read this, yea we are having problems in lyria aswell, I think they nerfed spawns

Shadow nerf, and not announcing it lol

[analog field]

I wouldn't be surprised, can't have decent money lol

Took longer to find my good rock but i did find one

[torn moss]

You will find but I use to be able to find good rocks in no time, now it takes maybe 30-40 mins to find 1 good rock

instead of buffing things like cargo or BH they nerf mining, just does not make sense to me

[marble crater]

surprised the mining scanner doesn't redirect me to the Pledge Store 😛

[analog field]

Bounties are still great sadly

Could be an accidental thing or just bad bad rng

[lusty willow]

I really think that just your take on it, I am still getting very good rocks within 10-15 min, my experience with finding rocks before and after the patch has not changed all. So unless they specifically stated they nerfed the spawn rate of rocks, I think your experience is just bad luck and nothing else.

[lusty willow]

Why sadly?? Shouldnt the guys that dont want to stare at rocks all day also have a way to make money?

[analog field]

I'm not sure why my phone added sadly to that lol

I actually enjoy bounties too

[lusty willow]

lol

[analog field]

It's been a long day

I will say the scanning seems to work better now

Like actually scans most of the time

[lusty willow]

Scanning definitely works a lot better since the patch landed

[crisp canopy]

im still getting invisible rocks when scanning sometimes

[lusty willow]

yeah it still happens but not nearly as much as before

[crisp canopy]

but idk if thats server dependant or not

[analog field]

And it tells you everything in the rock + all the stats now

And appears to not lose the scan when you move off it

[crisp canopy]

depends if theres other rocks in the area iirc

[lapis magnet]

Can you mine laranite on Lyria?

[lusty willow]

think for leranite you will be better to go to Yela and sell at GH

[north oyster]

The ratio hasn't been game breaking but it is irritating. I think the blank asteroids is more a server issue, so if it's bad I jump servers

[halcyon brook]

So annoying having modules in refineries but unable to buy them 😂

[halcyon brook]

Anyone know if supply/demand will ever be a feature? Everyone is mining quant so it would be cool to see demand fall and price dip etc..

[marble crater]

no, it wouldn't be cool to see the price dip

it would be aweful 😆

[halcyon brook]

Going to get pretty boring mining the same thing over and over though right? Fluctuating prices would keep mining interesting and more than just a one stop ore

[marble crater]

it would just kill mining with how it's setup right now. not enough places to sell in Stanton alone, server stocks are shared globally. mining would just die then everyone would just be doing group ert's over & over

[halcyon brook]

That’s true. I’d like to see some kind of variation though eventually. Supply and demand is a core concept of any economy. If we have a fixed market price for everything forever it will just stagnate I think

[marble crater]

I can see something like that happening when there's like 20 Systems in the game though. it's just too small for anything complex right now. thing is, there's no demand, no one buys the stuff

[halcyon brook]

That’s true. We need proper industry. Maybe that will come with construction ships. Common ores will no doubt become more valuable when they’re actually needed for something

[marble crater]

yep we also need trading to cover everything and space truckers will have a huge impact on what's valuable

[tender quiver]

Can someone send me a basics about mining with this "hand-cannon" ?

[north oyster]

Cross has pinned a ship mining guide but for hand mining, the idea is to scan, the keep it in the green until it cracks. "More is caught than taught" so it is a matter of just finding gems and mining them. Just avoid the overcharging of the rocks to prevent respawing in the hospital.

[tender quiver]

thx

[north oyster]

Be sure to have a backpack and maybe go with heavy armor with a heavy class backpack because of the extended storage to put gems in. Also to find caves, take the "missing person" missions to locate the caves

[halcyon brook]

Is there an easier way to pickup gems than by hand?

[thin escarp]

@torn moss we haven't had problems. maybe server hop?

@halcyon brook why unable to buy them?

mining modules are at the clothing terminal in refinery

look at the tabs and scroll right

[sick osprey]

Looking for someone or two, to come with me mole mining & Im also looking for people who want to play with super friendly active people. DM me for info

[lost barn]

how's mining in 3.16?

[loud peak]

Chill and profitable 🙂

[lost barn]

even with a roc?

[loud peak]

haven't really tried the roc yet, mainly using prospector

[halcyon brook]

Wat! I had no idea! 😂😂 I couldn’t find them

[civic valve]

This has probably been asked before and to me seems like kind of an obvious answer but I figured i'd ask since I cant get any info online about it. Does the power system in a prospector matter when mining? I would imagine so having more power output for a mining head but with this game being buggy and such I figured id ask before spending $150,000 AUEC on a good one

[thin escarp]

@civic valve it will not give you more power on laser

I only change laser, qt and modules

on the prospector

[quiet dove]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-30581

Has mining changed in 3.16.1. Please check out the above and contribute if you think its a problem

[civic valve]

@thin escarp Alright thank you! Glad I asked before I decided to buy a new power system lol. Thanks again

[spring shard]

Hey

I feel like I'm missing something with Roc mining. I'm on daymar (witha cutty and roc) and i've been passing through the mountains a ton, scanning with tab. I'm about 1k up from the surface. But when I do i'm not finding any gems. Is there some trick i'm missing out on.

[topaz coyote]

Nope that's what you do. Have to seek out them gems! Try heading near mining sites and scout out from there.

[spring shard]

wild. i the RNG must hate me

[topaz coyote]

Bruh!! I know the feeling when I'm out looking for quant in Halo...

[spring shard]

glad i'm not the only one 😄 is there a rough idea of how long i should be between finding spots. i've been at it for 40m now hah

[thin escarp]

@spring shard fly lower

and try aberdeen

[frozen harness]

Does anyone have that file with mining op roles?

[north oyster]

ROC has a lot of challenges since 3.14 and needs some love that won't be coming soon from CIG. It is still there, it is still functional, but there are a number of challenges with it that makes it hardly worth the effort. I could name them all but let's just say, it could be way better than it is now.

[north oyster]

The only thing that you need on the Prospector is the new laser head, which would be the Lancet. Besides that you can pick up a faster Quantum Drive. All the other components mean nothing at this time in game (for the most part) because CIG levelized all the ship components to begin rebalancing them after a number of huge changes last year.

[north oyster]

Go to Aberdeen and/or Arial. Pick up a Pembroke suit first if you can afford one. The gem deposits will only return a hit from the ping when you are right on top of them (within 1200 meters, but mainly within 1000 meters). So you have to go very low as you ping. Some go fast, I tend to go slower so I can scan everything as it comes up.

Also, I would dive down from the OM-1 orbital marker to the planet surface. This only takes a moment and it is worth it because it is always daylight under the OM-1

[north oyster]

Cross pinned the mining guide to this forum, that might have what you are looking for.

[north oyster]

I think CIG messed with the Halo, it's dried up at the moment

at least compared to what I use to harvest out of there

I'm wonder if some intern screwed it up like they did Trade, LOL

OK going to do some prospecting into the belt and see if I can find where the Quantainium went, that is IF there is any left

[north oyster]

UPDATE This might sound strange, but I think they MOVED Aaron's Halo

[glacial dagger]

...how?

[north oyster]

The circumference is different. The location of the outer and inner bands is not different.

Maybe by over 100K, I haven't figured it out yet

It is constricted and closer to the Stanton star than it use to be

[glacial dagger]

Hmm, time to do some testing then

[north oyster]

I was testing from CRU-L1 to ARC-L3, and I decide to drop out close to 13M from ARC-L3 to start out side the band, and I stopped in the middle of asteroids. AND I just found 5 Quantainium asteriods, though the highest (this time) was 19%.

That's the best I've seen since the patch going live

I noticed last night when I dropped out at 11M that I was in open space, and that was wrong

[sacred idol]

Can I put a ground vehicle in the caterpillar?

[hollow sedge]

Can I carry ship parts on a ship?

not by equipping them, just lugging them

[hoary musk]

nope

[north oyster]

meat is back on the menu, Boyz!!

Looks like Aaron's Halo has shifted in about 500K Km (give or take, I've not gotten an exact). I still need to test, but your favorite fishing hole has moved, Adjust it 300K Km closer to the star and see how it works.

@thin escarp if you'll let some of your Belt miners know, I realize most of you farm Lyria, but just in case.

I hope to spend some time plotting the location of the edge of the belt, in and out, then calculating the sweet spots from there.

[analog field]

That makes so much sense! Cause i screwed up and jumped wrong and found a dickload of rocks!

[grizzled jacinth]

anyone here willing to let me mine with their prospector? Looking into mining and want to get a feel for it.

[spring shard]

I used all my cash to rent a prospector thinking i could get money faster with one, that seems to have been a mistake.I can't seem to open any rocks because i don't have modules. Is there a better way?

[glacial dagger]

Where are you mining and what size are you trying to crack?

[spring shard]

tried some surface mining on daymar and test mining in CRU L1.

i did get some dimond to work but it was so little money so i assume i shouldn't do that

[analog field]

The rental CAN make it's money back but it's a pain

This is the value list

@spring shard

[spring shard]

thanks that's super helpful

[analog field]

You can find decent bexa rocks that you can crack

[north oyster]

I haven't tried the default laser, but asteroids are all about the same size. Can it break those?

[analog field]

Better to rent a cutty and a roc too practice mine though.

@north oyster yea the low % bexa rocks aren't very tough.

[north oyster]

ROC mining is messed up but it does "work" though

[analog field]

Low resistance and instability

One decent hada chunk pays for both

[north oyster]

I wonder if 3.17 attachments will breath life into the rental Prospector

Also, doesn't the rental laser head allow one attachment now?

[analog field]

You can't edit it far as I'm aware

[north oyster]

Using a surge with it would make it easy peasy

[analog field]

Pretty sure you can't change anything on em

But yea @spring shard gonna wanna look for bexa rocks and cherry pick the good chunks, will be slow but can pay for the rental

[north oyster]

Ryan from SuperMacBrothers was going to do a video on making money with a rental Prospector

[analog field]

I made a decent amount before i figured out it's tedious lol it's fun in a way

[halcyon brook]

Is it currently safe to store a ROC in a ship, and then store the ship itself?

[glacial dagger]

Yup 😄

[halcyon brook]

Sweet thanks! Just didn’t want my ROC lost to the ether if I tried 😂

[hollow sedge]

Is the avenger titan worth renting? Like for space trucking

[analog field]

Better to rent a Connie/ cutty

[raw coral]

is the selling scrap still broken?

[glacial dagger]

Yep

[raw coral]

tky

[thorn marsh]

anybody know where to buy a lancet mh2 as of this patch?

[slender oak]

does refined load expire?

[coarse cape]

you cant really truck in a titan. doesnt have a big cargo grid. tho its pretty nice for box missions/bunker looting

[verbal cargo]

Hur L1

[hollow sedge]

Ah ok well what's a good ship to rent that's good for hauling cargo?

[coarse cape]

taurus is pretty solid. idk if you can rent/where you can rent

if not freelancer max is also pretty nice and its about 50 scu less than the taurus

[hollow sedge]

Ok

[tranquil anvil]

unrefined ore sale seems to be busted this patch

anyone else having that issue?

[hollow sedge]

I mean I've been playing this game only for 2 weeks now and I only have 150K so idk how much they are lol

[coarse cape]

i think taurus is like 70k to rent?

although another good way to earn some good cash is renting a roc and a cutty black

[opaque flower]

anyone know what ship i could rent to hold a roc ds

[coarse cape]

connies

[opaque flower]

does the single seat fit in a cutlass

[pallid temple]

Yes

[opaque flower]

thanks

[white venture]

Hi guys! I'm trying to sell Dolivine from a Roc thats inside my ship but it doesnt appear on the scrolldown menu on either the refinery stations or any of the trade terminals. any idea what to do ?

[steep wind]

drive your roc out of the ship and a bit away from it the it should appear

[white venture]

But how to do that while being at a refinery station where it gets impounded ?

[steep wind]

oh im not sure then maybe take it out of the rock and put it in your backpack and then sell it

[white venture]

Hmm Yeah then mining will take a shit ton of time 😄

It worked 2 -3 days ago

i could sell from the Roc which was inside the ship

[coarse cape]

@white venture you sell roc stuff at mining outposts lol

[white venture]

I've sold it at New Babbage several times before

[coarse cape]

its easier to sell at the mining outposts tho

since you can just land at a pad and walk to the terminal

[hollow sedge]

what mining laser should I get if I choose to replace the Arbor on the Prosp?

[sacred idol]

Lancet

[hollow sedge]

Ty, also having been out of SC for a year, what is worth going for, besides Quant? Is surface mining on moons still viable?

[sacred idol]

Here are some

Quant is still kinda the main

[hollow sedge]

I see, not a lot of change compared to what I have in my notes

[sacred idol]

Can you get a ground vehicle in a caterpillar? Like a cyclone or two?

[thin escarp]

@hollow sedge Def check out my mining guide pinned in this channel

i also can send you my scouting guide thats on yt

[analog field]

@white venture just leave the ship sit on the pad, works on refineries

[lean oyster]

Whats a full roc worth of hardanite worth? I just glitched through the planet with it half full my first time doing it, and i wanna know how bad my feeling should hurt

[marble crater]

around $220K

[lean oyster]

i guess not as bad as i thought

[analog field]

Rip

[lean oyster]

still upsetting. My first time ever roc mining and glitch thru the planet and lose a haul. Already oi

alphas gonna alpha i suppose

[marble crater]

I never really fill it, just mine for around 30-45 minutes then make a trip to sell. Don't want to test the SC bug gods too much

[lean oyster]

yea prob should have done that

[analog field]

But live and learn

Better than a full load of quant

[narrow cliff]

hey guys, can you mine on the surface of moons with the ROC or do you keep spawning diamonds inside trees and rocks?

[valid dagger]

How do I check how much insurance my ship has left and how do i renew/ buy more for my other ships

?

[coarse cape]

!insurance

[zenith geode]

Ship Insurance and Its Implementation In the Future
#908015787900567572 message

[valid dagger]

well that one less thing to worry about

[hollow sedge]

What's the best ship to rent for cargo runs

[coarse cape]

imo taurus

[analog field]

Can you rent a tauros? I only saw the pew pew Connie

[coarse cape]

the wiki says you can

[main saddle]

maybe at the cargo deck, then

i'll check

[thin escarp]

andro

is the only one you can rent

for like 72k

@hollow sedge@coarse cape

[hollow sedge]

Ok

[thin escarp]

it has 96 scu of cargo space

do not run scrap

ok

[thin escarp]

@north oyster my scout found a 8100 44% 8200 38% a 6700 47% and a 5700 43%

in same cluster

so far tonight. 95 scu, 94.5 scu 94.3 scu, 88 scu runs.

about to bring back a perfect 96.

[sacred idol]

Have space for one more? And what’s the cut on runs like those with your size of crews?

[thin escarp]

@sacred idol

my team is full but we have 4 other moles going rn. i can probably get ya in.

[analog field]

Cross is the man

[thin escarp]

@analog field

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-more-time-gif-4816107

[analog field]

the mystical BONUS inert lol

[thin escarp]

haha

4 million 5 runs.

[analog field]

https://tenor.com/view/dayum-dayum-son-damn-damn-son-brooklyn-nine-nine-gif-12213344

[paper pewter]

game crash after storing mole = mole destroyed

[analog field]

Well that's odd

[scarlet gulch]

is there an advanced keybind in joysticks for the hand held mining laser?

nm, binding it to the vehicles-mining keybind works.

[white venture]

Oh okay 🙂

[bleak badger]

which ship would be a good starter mining ship?

and how much is it

[crisp canopy]

most people just use the prospector as the MOLE kinda needs 2 people

prospector is 2061000 auec

[bleak badger]

if it needs 2 people, does it hold enough to payout two people?

[crisp canopy]

it has either twice or three times the amount but idr

[bleak badger]

5M

32 SCU vs 96 SCU....

64 for two ships and twice as fast?

or would it not be worth buying two moles

OHHH, the ship can be sold, right?

[crisp canopy]

the driver cant operate the mining arms so i wouldnt say so

[bleak badger]

the mole also requires 2 people?

wait wait wait im dumb

[crisp canopy]

no the mole requires two people the prospector doesnt lul

[bleak badger]

two prospectors vs 1 mole

faster gains from two ships than 1, right?

saving 1M

[crisp canopy]

just found a 50% qt rock

feelsgoodman

tbh i cant give the best opinion of these as i only have the prospector

u can solo the MOLE but it can be a bit annoying going from seat to seat

[bleak badger]

well that can be shared with other people here, no?

or do you guys not do that?

[bleak badger]

whats your average haul

worth renting?

[uneven niche]

renting... mehh. the mining head that comes with the rented one is not good. can only handle 1 module. and makes it very hard to stay in the green

so if you want to get into mining. sure rent it, but know that it will be easier once your able to purchase the real prospector

[crisp canopy]

While i was talking to u i pulled a full qt load and i could of taken more
32scu which is like 260k

Once i find a rock i like ill average between 25-32 scu of qt

[crisp canopy]

If u mine only laranite you can get a decent amount of money

U can mine quantanium with the stock head but it takes like 20 minutes

[bleak badger]

sounds like its worth it

assuming the low end would be 200k - 50k in renting 150k per load is not bad

[crisp canopy]

Never tried to mine with the stock head so i wouldnt recommend it, but its def possible

[ember star]

It’s not possible unless it’s a tiny rock

[crisp canopy]

Oh yeah forgot ab that

Like a 4000 mass rock or sum

[bleak badger]

watching a video on it

and yea, apparently you can do a 5100 if you care to

[spring shard]

can you shoot me that video, i'm using a rented prospector now, but haven't been even able to make 1/5th of my cash back because i can't mine the rocks i find

[crisp canopy]

Look for laranite rocks if ur in a rented prospector

[spring shard]

are those all over or should i go someone specific?

[bleak badger]

https://youtu.be/npwGK_SV_zY

[bleak badger]

video covers it mostly

[crisp canopy]

Arons halo is prob ur best bet, i find a lot of good rocks between cru-l1 and arc-l3
Stop around 12.5-12.1 mkm and u should be right in the middle

[bleak badger]

oscar, that last part would have been confusing to me if i had not watched the video LUL

i would have been like whut.....

[crisp canopy]

Oops lul

[simple hare]

I have an roc full of gems, but the trade terminal doesn't show it so i can't sell. am I doing something wrong?

[crisp canopy]

Move the roc out ur ship?

[lusty willow]

hope I made the right decision, upgraded my Cutty to the Connie Taurus, seeing as I was using my Cutty mostly for transferring my quant to a sell point, and the Taurus has a much bigger cargo hold than the Andromeda

[simple hare]

yea that was it thanks

[thin escarp]

@bleak badger. @spring shard do not rent

your not gonna make anything. that laser cant mine shit

I highly suggest my mining guide in this channel

I also can dm 2 I have on youtube

for the love of sweet God people stop recommending renting the prospector when im asleep

trying to save yall

average non rental prospector run is 200-270k if you know what ur doing/ follow my guide. in a mole you can average 700k.

last night I did 7 runs worth a total of 5.3 million.

in my mole.

I have loadouts for prospectors and moles pinned in this channel in my guide aswell as a ton of useless tips tricks how toos where toos.

@white venture only let it sit on pad if u know you can make it or it's safe.

that timer will still be going.

if its close for me I'll impound.

[spring shard]

I refined a few things and the order is 700, and my ship can only hold 600. Do I just have to wait till i can get a bigger ship, or do i have other options.?

Also can a party member pick up my order?

[spring shard]

Thanks! I'll take a look

[crisp canopy]

pretty sure that if ur work order is larger than ur ships scu, the rest gets abandoned

[spring shard]

The collect button wont even press for me

[crisp canopy]

rent a cutty or something

[thin escarp]

wont let you

load more than what ur ship has

it just wont do the order at all

id stack orders and rent a andromeda

[bleak badger]

so your suggestion is to keep saving for full on prospector

and the guide is for prosp and the mole....

[grizzled jacinth]

can anyone tell me the best mining laser for a prospector?

[crisp canopy]

lancet mh1

[thin escarp]

@bleak badger I'd suggest renting roc

until getting propsector

[bleak badger]

alright, thats more useful information

[cinder thistle]

@thin escarp I'm reasonably new to the game and mining. I'm just curious as to how many pending work jobs you can have in the refinery without issues if any?

[thin escarp]

@cinder thistle you can have as many as you can mine.

[cinder thistle]

Awesome ty

[lost barn]

whats a good spot for roc mining?

[cinder thistle]

I heard Daymar in Crusader

[analog field]

Any of the hot moons Aberdeen seems to be the biggest choice

[thin escarp]

^

aberdeen has the most hadanite

@lost barn

[cinder venture]

What kind of ship would you need to start mining?

Is it the cutlass black I will be recommended?

lol nvm I'll use my scroll wheel

[patent crater]

How the hell do you turn a profit trading when you can barely get enough Laranite to fill mini cooper?

[coarse cape]

i dont go for laranite

[valid dagger]

is there a good aurora quantum mining guide out there?

[coarse cape]

you cant mine in an aurora

[patent crater]

How long does it take for ores to refresh / refill ?

[coarse cape]

depends on location not commodity

use Sctrade tools

very useful

[prime flame]

bored as hell looking for someone to do cargo with

[valid dagger]

hm, i was wondering on the module part of things what do i need

[coarse cape]

you can hand mine in an aurora

but it cant hold a mining laser

you need a multitool with the orebit attachment

[valid dagger]

hm ok

[indigo viper]

anyone know why when i try to mine with the multi tool the white bar just does not go up

[valid dagger]

will it be relatively profitable?

[patent crater]

So how does server tick work? It says XXXX/min although the shop hasn't refreshed in a few.

[coarse cape]

depends on how long you go hand mining for and what you get

[valid dagger]

what would be a good ship i could relatively quickly work up to, to mine?

[coarse cape]

a cutty black with a roc could be pretty good

you can rent both as well

[patent crater]

Can you fit a ROC inside a Taurus?

[coarse cape]

yes

2 iirc

[patent crater]

Time to learn ROC mining

[thin escarp]

@cinder venture @valid dagger to start ship mining. you'll need a prospector. or a mole.

they do need a cargo ship to sell the stuff once its refined.

i have a mining guide pinned in this channel.

[analog field]

The Tauros is a beast for tons of stuff

[hallow flame]

how do I buy the cargo to go deliver and sell I am at a spot and it says choose destination but nothing shows up

[north oyster]

What ship are you trying to load with cargo?

[hallow flame]

nomad

[north oyster]

Some outpost are bugged and don't see the ship. Are you at a moon outpost and on the landing pad (if it has one)?

[hallow flame]

I am on one of the moons of the gas planet

[north oyster]

Yela, Daymar or cellin

[hallow flame]

daymar

[north oyster]

And you have selected the BUY column (default) of the terminal and it doesn't see your ship? I'd try another outpost then

Or maybe take off and land near the building and not on the pad

Your ship is empty, correct? nothing in the back

[hallow flame]

join the dc call

@north oyster

[junior inlet]

anyone know if the cargo refactor upgrade in 3.18 will allow for cargo to be traded to another player for transport?

[golden bison]

is there any cheap ship with space and faster like the aegis avenger stalker

for some uncut slam and stuff like that

[analog field]

The pisces is a ton of fun for that

https://starcitizen.tools/C8X_Pisces_Expedition

Love the ship

[golden bison]

okey thanks

[velvet merlin]

Whats the best mining ship to get I nthe start?

Or should I go for a ground vehicle

[still valley]

Get a ROC if you have a ship to carry it. If not, do some hand mining in caves and whatever else to grind towards getting a prospector. The rented prospectors don't let you modify their loadouts, which is quite critical to being able to earn a high amount with them.

[analog field]

There are almost always people who need a scout/ extra hand for their mole as well so def ask around @velvet merlin

[velvet merlin]

I have an aurora so that's a no ig

Is it possible to mine like quantanium from caves?

And ive been doing some prospector mining (rented) and seen some success

But like the higher tier asteroids are proving a bit tough

What's more efficient in terms of profit

[analog field]

Hate that a game/ pc hard crash costs you Your modules

You can't get quant from caves

[sterile tide]

does anyone know where i can find a up-to-date or live list of minable minerals/ores and their prices? thanks 🙂

[sterile tide]

thanks!

[analog field]

No prob!

[sterile tide]

why am i getting this error message?

[glacial dagger]

Why are you selling your goods unrefined?

[sterile tide]

cus i dont have a ship to transport the refined materials

[pallid temple]

You can rent a ship

[halcyon brook]

Is it worth cargo running at the moment? Got a freelancer max and just wondered if it’s viable to turn a decent profit atm

[proud jasper]

Researching on your own is good. There might be a spread sheet of the best place to buy stuff and the best place to sell stuff

[halcyon brook]

Thanks, but I was looking for more opinions on actual experience rather than a spreadsheet that could be from previous release versions….

[glacial dagger]

Ah, fair enough. You could rent a ship like a Connie once you have enough refinary deals to make like, a couple of trips will a full connie

[proud jasper]

It'd be better to buy a ship so you don't have to keep renting one

[glacial dagger]

This is true. Save up the 5.5 mill required to buy and outfit a C2 (4.9mil of you just want to buy it) and then do pretty much all the hauling you could ever want

[coarse cape]

You don’t need 5.5 to outfit it lol just buy a better qt and you’re set

[vocal chasm]

you can always rent a cutlass at the refineries ^^

Also I have found that you can rent a ship for one day then log off on the ship after you're done playing and then you will have it the next day for free.

It has worked fine for me so far but no guarantees ^^

and if you park veicles in the ship it will be saved as well

so you can save some time at the start of every mining session if you just log off in the orbit of Arial for example

[random needle]

Anyone ever have issues getting the trade console at the orphanage to find your ship ? I have parked everywhere and nothing? Is the orphanage for events only ?

[lilac patio]

I was having issues too, also gankers have started camping at the orphanage is always listed as a good selling point for laranite

Just sell at area 18 if it’s laranite

[sacred idol]

what are all of the ships with like a secret/smuggling area?

[worthy scroll]

Mercury Star Runner.

[sacred idol]

other then that, and the connie. think those are the only two I know

[random needle]

can not all cargo ships do this ?

[analog field]

Connie Taurus has one shielded area in the back

[velvet merlin]

Aye that works too

[sacred idol]

yeah, so besides those two are there any more?

[lusty willow]

how do i scan for hand minable items?

[halcyon brook]

As I understand they just pop up when you're within 1200 meters of the deposit. Fly low and slow until you see a diamond pop up.

[lusty willow]

lol sorry my bad for not giving all the info, I am in prison and need to mine to get time reduced

[halcyon brook]

Ah haha, no idea in that case 😂

[topaz drum]

In prison, or on foot in general, the minable rocks have a "look" to them, with a greenish, or purpleish vein running through them

[north oyster]

My friend has gone to the life of crime, this makes me sad 😦 LOL

[lusty willow]

hahahaha no no, this stupid scanning inspections, stopped my ship and killed the engines but forgot I was decoupled so I got arrested because I did not stop as he wanted lol

[north oyster]

I figured it was something like that. I was trying to help one of the patrols one time when they had a bandit engaged, one of my rounds accidently hit the patrol ship and it was gloves off for them. Came at me like I was an ugly dog. Did my time, wiser for it now.

[proud jasper]

How many scu's will the hull A have?

[coarse cape]

It’s listed as 48 @proud jasper

[proud jasper]

That's some cargo

I bet it'll be cheap since that's it's only job

[coarse cape]

48 isn’t a lot lol

It’s a good starter lol

[proud jasper]

List all the hull series scu ammount

A is 48 b is in the hundreads?

[coarse cape]

Hull b is 384
Hull c is 4608
Hull d is 20736
Hull e is 98304

@proud jasper

[proud jasper]

That's a big jump

From 48 to 384

And from 384 to 4.6k

Holy

[random needle]

how often do the sell points refresh where you can sell again once it is full ?

[coarse cape]

@proud jasper yeah but that means more cost to operate and bigger target for pirates

Especially for hull d and e since the cargo hold is open

[proud jasper]

All of them have open cargo holds though

They fold out

[coarse cape]

Yeah meaning easy target

[proud jasper]

Yeah

[oak lake]

do we know if those are final numbers yet

[coarse cape]

Nope

[north oyster]

Jazzed for the Hull C, my 400i is the LTI token for it. The cargo refactor will be huge and a massive game changer. Hard to imagine how it is going to go besides probably very Rough LOL

[coarse cape]

Feel bad for the people having to load the hull e lol

[analog field]

Gonna be tedious and very very immersive lol gonna have to pay loaders

[coarse cape]

Yeah

Loading the Railen is going to be annoying as well

[north oyster]

I live near a port that handles large container ships, it is a sight to see. I hope CIG makes the process an event in and of itself. But let's not be so realistic that it is game breaking process

[crisp canopy]

is there a loadout for the prospector to mine the 6500+ rocks on lyria? just found a 40% 6700 mass rock and couldnt even get the bar past 15% with my current loadout

[north oyster]

You need to use Surge with this, I would also recommend the Stampede, especially if it is difficult to hold it in the green

A 5K rock at 40% is more than the 32SCU than the Prospector can hold.

[crisp canopy]

yeah ive used the surge and stampede before, thinking more ab a specific mining head that would be better for the task?

[odd snow]

Lancet if you're mining quant.

Helix is most powerful but not good for quant

But either way, for a rock that big solo you'll need surge and stampede.

[analog field]

Or a second prosp honestly

Only reason i don't mine lyria

[frozen harness]

Is there still a way to block explosive damage from a rock on a mole?

I think you used to be able to use a certain shield

[fresh ivy]

I've managed to get up to 6k rocks with just a stampede and +power modules, but it takes a lot of patience

i'm personally iffy on the surge, if the rock is too big you blast it and don't get it to the green, and have to guess when you would, or it drops too fast out of the green even with a stampede

[cedar flower]

lets see which of these 2 upgrades I will use up first

RAFT -> hull B will be used when the Raft turns out to be less usefull as advertised
Prowler -> hull D is a step of me propably upgrading my Hull C into a D in case I want something bigger

[paper pewter]

What is the formula for how long it takes a quantum drive to cool down dependent on distance?

Thoughts on:

[analog field]

I use the fastest

[paper pewter]

the question is specially on a journey of only 2 million km IE mining

[analog field]

It's minor but hey every bit helps

That's a new one to me, spawned in my ship in the pad and then got impounded

[north oyster]

I use the siren, the second fastest. It is slow to spool up to max speed but that is useful when I am in the belt and wanting to jump a few 100Km to try a new area. I'm a fan of the VK-00 also, she comes out of the gate hot so you will make better time. Because I'm actually in a clear shot from the belt to CRU-L1 with normally only about 6M Km or so of travel, the Siren works really well for me.

[north oyster]

I used the default QT for the longest time. So you really don't have to upgrade the drive. The only must is the laser head to a lancet. All else is optional

[analog field]

If you are good about scooping quant AFTER you break if all you have plenty of time to get landed. Just nice little bit of bonus time

[paper pewter]

You know when you jump 1 M km and the cool down is one second and when you jump 30 M km the cool down is 20 seconds? What is that formula for time it takes to cool given different distances?

[analog field]

So the newest mining bug is once you bust a rock PIECES won't scan

So rip mining ATM just cost me 20+scu of quant

[wintry ruin]

It's been a few months since I was around, is trading and space truckin' any more viable thesedays?

[viral lake]

hit it with the fracture mode laser real quick and it should rescan

just a tap

[wintry ruin]

Throttle at 0!

[viral lake]

^that

[wintry ruin]

It works in extract too but if you hit aan extractable rock with it you don't know what you're scooping up is worth it

[viral lake]

my biggest issue is finding good rocks in a descent amount of time haha

[viral lake]

ya im greedy and dont want to waste the space haha

[wintry ruin]

I tend to have good luck with it myself. If ten minutes go by and no joy on quant I'll just scoop up something else with decent numbers.

And I tend to get lucky with fracturing. I've gotten a hold full of 100% quant on more than one occasion, and >80 on many more, from an inital scan of about 8% pre fracturing.

[viral lake]

had a few issues getting the ore sales terminal to work so I stick with quant strictly

[analog field]

@viral lake nope it turns them into ghost rocks

Like the ones you cannot scan whole

But it seems to roll all the pieces

Believe me i tried all that junk

[viral lake]

sounds like its time to swicth servers

[wintry ruin]

^

[analog field]

Someone in chat said it's happening to them too

I'll hop and try but if not that's a deal breaker

[grizzled jacinth]

guys whats the max size rock the porspector can break

[wintry ruin]

Yes

[analog field]

5100 is the most I've done without surge or w/e

[viral lake]

5k with lancet and no surge

[paper pewter]

about that yes

[wintry ruin]

I hear there's rocks big enough that you need mult-crew in some capacity, but with SURGE and the right tool head I've yet to encounter them

[analog field]

But yea losing my 2 100% cracked quant rocks is bs

[viral lake]

usually surface mining

[wintry ruin]

It's been a few months since I've been around and I normally mine in the belt, though

[paper pewter]

asteroid belt goes in the 5000 mass while surface goes toward 8200 mass

[wintry ruin]

Huh

[analog field]

You can crack everything in the belt no prob

[wintry ruin]

that seems arse backwards... between the environment and... well... impact with the surface, you'd figure rocks in space would be bigger than on a planet.

[paper pewter]

https://i.imgur.com/CvNx8ES.png
https://i.imgur.com/xbOrOev.png

[analog field]

Imma server hop and see if that helps otherwise i guess I'm taking a mining break

[north oyster]

I figured I've lost about 20% of possible ore because of that bug

[analog field]

So it's a common thing then, fuck

How did they break this so bad

Maybe it's their fix for mining being better than bounties

[north oyster]

I understand that this is the true 3.16 branch that didn't drop originally, so it'll have new bugs

[analog field]

Just an even worse bug than the normal ghost rocks

[north oyster]

The non-scanable rocks is mainly the server

[analog field]

Like i got 10scu of quant outta a 40% rock cause my two good ones were busted

[north oyster]

That hasn't happened to me yet but I'm sure it will

[analog field]

This is the first time and i got three loads last night

Someone in chat said it's happened to him a ton

[north oyster]

I wonder if it's a server health issue

[analog field]

I just server hopped so we'll see

[north oyster]

Let me know how it goes

[analog field]

I will! Playing with my new stick setup

[north oyster]

Awesome, what did you go with?

[analog field]

Thrust t6000m decent so far

I wish I could get a stand alone slide throttle for my mining

First rock all chunks scanned

[north oyster]

I run dual TM t16000 sticks. I could never go back to keyboard and mouse. Totally changed the game for me. Plus the you can use the slider on the stick for laser control.

[analog field]

means taking my hand off the KB to do it, but it's supernice not sure i could do a dual stick though

[north oyster]

it's worth the learning curve (imo) being able to control all 6 axis at the same time.

[analog field]

Even just having the stick over mouse is pretty dang nice

[untold parrot]

Anyone want to do cargo with me

[opaque tapir]

how do i change the mining UI
as it stands can not see anything on their horrible UI

[analog field]

You can't sadly

just gotta get used to it

[opaque tapir]

so how do the miners work around the fact you cant see the charge level?

[dusky kernel]

Just got back into the game after ages. Just downloaded it, what is now the best way to get my foot in the door and start earning money. Is it still bounty hunting missions or is prospect mining and or trading a viable option?

[rare holly]

Wait I can upgrade my ship to the Hull C. Does this mean it's flyable? 😮

[rare holly]

Bounties are solid. You can get 100k from ERT's. Trading is great as well, but the hard part is trying to get your cargo full since inventory is shared across servers. Mining is good too with a ship, but lackluster with Roc Mining

[dusky kernel]

Is there a current method which has the most yield of UEC?

[rare holly]

If you're going for quick money, it's bounties. If you're looking for a larger return but you're willing to wait it's mining.

[analog field]

@opaque tapir you get used to it honestly.

[signal nest]

i found a quant cluster with a 34% 18% 14% and some 2s if anyone is interested

[hollow sedge]

so what can you do if you break a rock and the rocks are clumped together, how do you separate them

[analog field]

I'm not sure you can

[halcyon brook]

Is the bug where hadenite spawns inside other geometry known? I just had a large deposit inside a larger non-mineable bolder

[analog field]

Yurp sadly pretty common

[north oyster]

Welcome Back! Lots and lots have changed over the past year or two. BH is still very lucrative and you build reputation. Mining is also really nice to earn coin and can offer over 250K aUEC per run once you have the Prospector configured correctly. Both are good, BH would be the easiest to get started if you don't already own a Prospector. ROC mining is messed up and too much of a hassle to earn decent cash any more (for now).

[north oyster]

None of the Hull Series are in game at the moment, these are concept sales. You will get a loaner Caterpillar and Hercules C2 for the Hull C.

[rare holly]

Thank you! I went ahead and did it for the C2 and Caterpillar lmao

[north oyster]

I have my CCU from the 400i to Hull C sitting on Ready. I let the 400i be my LTI token 🙂

[rare holly]

Haha that's awesome 🙂

[north oyster]

The C2 Hercules Starlifter is fantastic ship and of course, what can you say about the CAT, such a standard bearer for the ships of SC

[analog field]

New wrecks have crazy loot tables in their boxes( but they seem to despawn if you multitool them) AND the commodity boxes from the ones in space no longer seem to despawn when you finish the mission

[dusky kernel]

BH?

[north oyster]

Bounty Hunting

Also, they have changed a lot of things. When you spawn, all your stuff and ships are there. If you grab a ship and fly to another station (not the main orbital station at the planet) ... All your stuff will be missing in your inventory because it was left back on the planet you spawned on.

[proud jasper]

Is mining non QT more profitable than illigal monitor missions?

[hoary monolith]

I doubt it

Is it a good idea to buy a connie taurus with aUEC to haul refined quant from ARC L1 to ARC instead of using my cuttie black? will the reduced number of trips make up for the expense of the new ship?

[proud jasper]

That's basically what larger cargo ships are for. Less trips =less time wasted running

[hoary monolith]

But how good is the ROI? How many runs in the connie will save enough time to pay back its cost?

[proud jasper]

Idk i don't run cargo

[hoary monolith]

ok, hopefully someone else will respond later.

[proud jasper]

Use the cutty if you want to be safe

It's still a good ship

[north oyster]

I use a Taurus but you can also look at the Freelancer MAX with 120 SCU

MAX is inexpensive, maybe the cheapest per SCU out there.

[north oyster]

It can be, the idea is to focus on Bexilite but anything above Agricium will work. With enough refinery jobs, you can pull a decent return. I would say, consider it maybe 1/3 your Quantainium return (just to use a ballpark guage) so a run with quan that got you 1.5 Mill would be a 500K aUEC run

[proud jasper]

Just using a prospecter what is the highest ammount of money you can get from raw materials

[north ridge]

Is it worth doing delivery missions for Red Wind?

[hollow sedge]

i would say just over a day of mining can pay it back, i specifically got the taurus for hauling refined quant and a bit of side bounty hunting too, can take almost 6 full prospector loads (about a mil and a half) so i would say it’s a good investment, i mean i love my taurus 😂

[hollow sedge]

140,000

[proud jasper]

Ah

[sage talon]

If you have good runs that average 3000 units of quant, you can pay off the Taurus in 12-14 runs

[north oyster]

about 137K aUEC for raw Quan

RAW is half (as a rule) of what you would make refined.

[dim igloo]

Anyone got a good cargo route?

:D

I use sc-tools but those profits are meh and the stuff is often sold out

I've got approx 250k and a Taurus

[sage talon]

Those are about the best you can get

[dim igloo]

[sage talon]

Look for the commodity update alert

That means the stock has refreshed

[dim igloo]

Thanks!

[thin escarp]

@proud jasper I'd highly suggest getting a bigger ship to haul quant

your only able to-do 1 run at a time with the cutty

[proud jasper]

I don't have the cutty

I was just going to sell raw materials

[sage talon]

It’s always better to refine, in a prospector it’s never more than 6k and you double your load payout

[proud jasper]

I don't have anything to carry the stuff though. But i am gonna buy the drake cutlass for roc mining so i might aswell use it for mining mining

[bright plank]

You can always rent the Cutlass black for like 35k. Save up several days of refined goods, then rent and haul. The profit for refining a good load from a single prospector pays for it...let alone several loads.

[hoary monolith]

Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for

[sage talon]

np

[vivid forum]

Is there a mass to SCU conversion? Like quantanium is n% of mass of rock, times X equals potential SCU?

[vivid forum]

Brilliant, thank you

[hollow sedge]

holy shit that’s helpful

[thin escarp]

I have a mining guide pinned in this channel

with loadouts and more etc in it

def check it

[hollow sedge]

Looking for more mining crew. Argo Mole here. DM

[sacred idol]

Is Lyria still the best place to quant mine?

And are there any spots there better then others?

[analog field]

100 mass=2scu as far as i'm aware

[tawny fern]

100 mass= 1 scu

[analog field]

Unless it changed it used to be 100-2

[vivid forum]

Has to be 2 based on the table above

[tawny fern]

Yeah I was wrong my bad

[analog field]

All good

[quasi tangle]

Is cutlass black good for mining?

Like Roc and stuff

[hollow sedge]

yus

[analog field]

Prob the best imo easy to load and unload

[hollow sedge]

when you get into the red zone of quantanium does it burn the quant and decrease yield or is it just hazardous?

[north oyster]

Might want to consider saving a little extra and getting the Freelancer MAX instead. Better ROC carrier and way more cargo space

[thin escarp]

@hollow sedge means you can die

lose quant aswell.

it can disapear.

[hollow sedge]

but that's only if you break in the red zone right?

[hoary monolith]

how can I lock scan mode to the front instead of following head tracking?

[halcyon brook]

It’s a “bug”, there are a couple of issue council reports open, but no sign of a fix for a while yet

[hoary monolith]

ok, at least that means I can find a work around

[halcyon brook]

It’s a real pain with trackIR, I ended up disabling it for mining

[hoary monolith]

i like being able to look to see how far from my current heading a ping response is to see if its worth turning. It is also good when breaking asteroids to keep track of how I'm maneuvering/coasting.

[thin escarp]

@hollow sedge if there is any red when you break

[odd snow]

I’m thinking real seriously about upgrading my mole to the Orion.

[steel flame]

i think there are people who bots on commodities machines I'm even almost sure and it's getting frustrating ⚠️

[analog field]

Nah you just share with the entire world

[steel flame]

yes i know but there are guys bots with auto clicker for sure

[pure umbra]

So, if I had a A2, what’s the best cargo route? And how much could I be looking at per run

[thin escarp]

@odd snow i caved. i have 2 orions

[odd snow]

Yeah, the beauty of this is I still keep the mole as loaner, and get a prospector as well.

[thin escarp]

2 orions, polaris, mole, msr, sabre raven

is my fleet

[steel flame]

their system is crap actually price variations have no real influence and the quantities are not suitable, that's why the guys spend their time on the same thing and push some ppl to bot

for several weeks with my friends we tested new transport of less traded goods with a lot of quantities transported to see if we had an influence on market prices, and you know what there was no impact on the price

[analog field]

Prob planned "soon" would like to see the demand for junk ore go up if it sells out

[acoustic garnet]

uh yea, it isnt implemented yet

the only variation there is is with the Price Notice things

[steep wind]

what is the best ship for cargo running in your guys's opinions?

[steel flame]

those with the largest freight capacities

Hercules C2, M2, caterpillar etc

[astral crystal]

mm so cargo is ruled by commodity price alerts now?

[steel flame]

I would like to ask the CIG team if they can quickly implement vehicle delivery missions from the high level of reputation in delivery. For example to deliver nova tanks, rock mining vehicles, and small ships that can enter in a Hercules. I think they can add it quickly.

[mild pumice]

Cargo replenishes x per minute depending on commodity/location. If you're lucky you can get a full load, if not then very little it's shared between servers. I can do 70k profit on a full load of diamonds in my Carrack at quiet times I can fill it 100% in one go

[sacred idol]

c2

cat is 4.6, c2 is 4.9 and m2 is 5.2

c2 has the best cargo capacity by at least 100 scu

[pure umbra]

So, if I had a A2, what’s the best cargo route? And how much could I be looking at per run

[odd snow]

Bro ppl don’t usually share their routes. That takes away from their ability to max profit. Plus these ppl have found those routes by trial and error. I wouldn’t bet on shortcutting that process.

[pure umbra]

Oh okay

[odd snow]

My suggestion is to start by looking at the journal as it shows price updates for who is selling what in excess and who’s buying due to short supply.

Mix in some other stuff at the terminal for those pickups and see how it goes.

[forest spade]

If I but a MISC Prospector any important knowledge I need to know and should I focus on that as my second ship after the Titan

[north oyster]

Humboldt on Lyria for titanium and gold. Woodruff in Ita for Astatine

Also check out Jach Axton on YT for trade info

[north oyster]

The Prospector is what will make your SC goals come true. It is the goose that lays the golden egg

[forest spade]

I heard go all industrial upgrades pretty much but some say it's not great for profit

[north oyster]

No need to upgrade anything but the laser head.

Prospector not great for profit?

I've made 10's if not 100's of millions of aUEC with it

Average over a million aUEC per day

[marble crater]

Prospector is great once you know what you're doing. Mining isn't for everyone though

[forest spade]

I get annoyed by the repetition but I've never hand mined since Multi tools have never worked for me or my brother. (I have used a rover so I hope thats similar)

[analog field]

When i first started mining it felt worthless cause i had no idea what was worth what, but once you learn it's much better

@forest spade basically the same as a roc but usually easier if you have the right laser

[forest spade]

https://tenor.com/view/hondo-ohnaka-star-wars-star-wars-rebels-profit-gif-18530709

Nice I've wanted one but some people prefer bounty hunting but this seems really profitable (Yes I just hunted for that GIF)

[north pier]

hey new here and want to get into mining is freelancer ok for mining?

[analog field]

Only prosp and mole mine in space

Cross has a guide pinned in the channel, it's great

@forest spade easy to pull a couple hundred k a load with refining

[north oyster]

There are multiple methods of earning in SC, and more to come (VIP escort, salvage, selling items, etc), however, in the current sandbox rendering of the game we have Bounty Hunting, Box Deliveries, Trade and Mining. Of the game loops for earning, I find that mining is what I enjoy and can earn the most doing. Not everyone likes fishing or hunting, but some of us do. Not everyone likes mining or want to take the time to learn to do it correctly, that's fine. I hope they have fun at whatever they decide it the right fit for them in the 'verse.

[analog field]

Mining in sc is unique as well cause it actually takes some focus unlike other games cough Eve cough

[north oyster]

LOL

I am totally industrial in my approach in the game. I have trade and mining covered, I will have salvage covered. I might do VIP, but I'd rather be out exploring and turning a profit.

[analog field]

I cannot wait for salvage

Gimme that venture I mean vulture

[north oyster]

I have the CCU to the Vulture, just waiting like I am for the HULL C

[analog field]

It'll be tempting to buy it for irl cash if it works at all like i hope

[worthy bough]

Anyone looking for a laser operator....needing 1.35 mil

[analog field]

Just in case anyone is curious, the little boxes from derelicts are not worth dragging home lol 10-20 of an ore

[kindred flame]

any mining expert here?

[analog field]

The guide pinned here is a good start otherwise ask away

[kindred flame]

I just need help to mine for the first time 🙂

i bought the prospector just now

[grand furnace]

you should know how something works before buying

[opaque tapir]

so ive refined some ore but my avernger titan cant handle all the goods and i can not click the collect button.
Does the full cargo need to be taken in one go?
can do partial pickups?
wheres best place to rent a crago moving ship?
and i can not select my hire prospector to move the refined goods it seems

[analog field]

The refiner will rent you a cutty black

[grand furnace]

you can rent a freelancer as well

[analog field]

Either works, but yes you need to be able to haul the whole load at once or it won't let you take it

[opaque tapir]

well im broke and ive got like 11 orders to pickup i better start saving for a cutty black

[frozen patio]

something change very recently with destroyed ships? blew up my prospector twice today and lost the mining head both times. dont recall it being that way for the past while

[grand furnace]

how did you blow up

[analog field]

@opaque tapir the cutty is 50k for a day

[grand furnace]

50k is not cheap

[opaque tapir]

just seen it at arc 1 for 38 K?

[frozen patio]

went too hot on a quant rock and 2nd time something happened to my power that made me fall down to the surface and blew up

[analog field]

Wait is it only 38k i might be misremembering

38k isn't much just sell a load of unrefined stuff and you're good to go

50k is 1/4 of a prosp load of refined quant

[opaque tapir]

cant mine quant effectively in the prospector hire ship

which is what i was using

[analog field]

Oh snap you've gotten that much mined with the rental??? You poor soul

What are you going for mining wise?

You're gonna just get crazy frustrated with the rental. You're better off renting a cutty+ roc and going gem mining

[grand furnace]

I managed to get diamonds with the rental

[analog field]

Sadly diamonds aren't worth much

When you get enough funds to rent the cutty/freelancer to deliver your stuff, rent a roc as well and go grab hadanite way way better until you can buy your own prosp

[crisp canopy]

Go for laranite if you in a rental, u can make a decent amount with a full load of laranite

Altho renting an roc will get u a lot more money than a rented prospector

[steel flame]

I bought the MPUV Cargo but I am extremely disappointed, it is very useless and not effective because no quantum possibility and the missions are not suitable for this .. what is missing it's like real plane "FMC (Flight Management Computer)" to program waypoints and others data for autopilot and cruise flight but also assisted approaches. what could have been great this system implanted on the MPUV Cargo.

what they should have done was a similar system in hud screen ship design

[steel flame]

this will be great for the MPUV Cargo single planet delivery missions, with this system imagine that you have take off block the altitude and activate the autopilot directs you to the destination point.

[proud jasper]

Jeasus

Argo cargo

[steel flame]

it can be really good you just have to put an adapt flight system and missions for delivery and flights from A to B on the same planet it can be quick to do

[tawdry jay]

Storing the ship will Stop the Countdown

[lone condor]

how do I get started in mining with only 50k?

only experience I have is prison

[cerulean trench]

Glad to see the system has inspired you to pick an honest life of a miner

[thin escarp]

@hollow sedge storing stops timer

I have a guide pinned in channel if ya need.

@lone condor can't really start with that but you can work your renting a roc

or jumping in people's mole crews.

@kindred flame check out my mining guide in this channel.

@forest spade @opaque tapir

yall aswell :)

[torn moss]

anyone know which moon is the best for mining quant, some people saying MT planets are the go to now, is that viable?

[kindred flame]

I watched alot of guide I just wanna mine with someone

[north oyster]

You will find the Prospector to be a fun ship and that mining isn't too difficult. I would recommend getting the Lancet Laserhead first thing. Everything else is optional.

From there you will want to practice with easier ores

I would recommend working out of CRU-L1 and test mining on the asteroids floating around there.

The mouse wheel is awful for laser power control, so if you have a joystick with an analog slide, I would map it to that

Charge up and keep it in the green, don't let the red zone charge up, it could get ugly

If you want to practice mining a little deeper in space, then you will want to be able to find Aaron's Halo, which isn't too difficult from CRU-L1

From CRU-L1 set your Quantum to ARC-L3. When you are in a jump, once you get about 12.5M Km, hold the B button to cancel your jump. Now to to town. I wouldn't bother with getting Quantianium until you are comfortable with the process

Let me know if I can help you with anything, just DM me and I'll be glad to see what I can do.

Also, if you want to work on a surface, Yela is good for astatine and laranite.

[bold yew]

I have been doing fine on Lyria

[lapis magnet]

Second Lyria, rocks have been real iffy lately since that last update though. I might try one of the MT moons later tho

[north oyster]

Most of the surface miners have been reporting good success on Lyria

[thin escarp]

Mt moons are a scam for quant

you'll end up wasting time

lyria is the quant god

@lapis magnet def check out my guide pinned in channel

[crimson mantle]

Well, no Hull-C for another while! 😦

They don't need to rebalance trade for a while longer neither then 😅

[analog field]

I bet they won't do anything to trade until they make cargo have to be manually loaded

[lapis magnet]

Thanks! Not really having an issue finding rocks on Lyria, though. Just referencing the uptick of more low % quant rocks, underground rocks, unscannable rocks, un-mineable rocks, rocks giving incorrect % of quant...etc.

You can still find good quant relatively easily there, but just noticed an increase of those issues in particular lately. At least in my, and other's recent experience there.

[steep wind]

whats the max amount you can make with Delivery missions?

[analog field]

45k i think

[steep wind]

ok thanks

[analog field]

That involves going into a bunker and pewpewing to drop off

[analog field]

Correct!

You can land your cargo ship on the harbor and take a smaller ship down though

np! Can rent a freelancer or cutty to haul a load!

[queen forge]

What's the best way to really profit running a nomad? My goal is a C2 to continue cargo and whatnot.

[valid dagger]

so I rented a cutty and an ROC where should i mine?

[crisp canopy]

Aberdeen has the most hadenite iirc

But u should get the Michelin man suit idr what its called to protect u from the heat

[valid dagger]

yeah i got that i cant find the heat helmet tho