industrial-professions

[exotic bane]

Lyria has the multiple spawn thing going for it. Only quant can be in clusters of two or more there. So just fly fast and straight.

[fossil wolf]

Yeah but for refining if you want that bonus you gotta travel something like 30mil kilometers

[exotic bane]

Just go to arc l1

[fossil wolf]

I suppose quick question since i got a mole which would be better? Lyria or the belt

[stone orchid]

If you need some help in that mole I've been looking for someone to join in on so I can watch and learn mining. I'm not a new player but I'm new to mining

If you want to join me please bring that mole I'm in a good spot where there is 30% quant rocks right now and they're all grouped together

[fossil wolf]

I got a full mole atm but send me a friend request and ill ping you if i ever need a crew member

[stone orchid]

Cool I'll do that

[thin escarp]

@fossil wolf lyria is better

for moles

make sure you outfit it correctly

the small % bonus isn't even noticeable just go to arc l1

[fossil wolf]

The small % bonus means nothing when the station just blows up my ship for no reason

I put in the work order and everything so the ship was empty of quant and the station just started shooting at it and blew it up

[odd snow]

This right here is my biggest dislike for the mole:

That windshield gets so nasty you cant see a damn thing. especially at night. And the only way to get it clean is to claim the ship.

[fossil wolf]

@odd snow Can i store the ship with quant in it? Will that pause the timer?

[odd snow]

yes

it stops the timer

[fossil wolf]

Okay thanks

[analog field]

The number of roc deposits that spawn in the rocks in the ground is to damn high

[hollow sedge]

are you at arial?

[analog field]

I was

It seems worth the hassle to not get blown up constantly

[hollow sedge]

you'll find better luck mining in aberdeen, either go to hdmo dobbs or OM-1 and fly straight down

[fossil wolf]

@odd snow Sorry to bother you again if i was to get the ship impounded would i still keep all the modules and be able to refine the materials

because the station keeps firing at my ship like a minute after i land and blowing it up

[odd snow]

The minerals yes they will still be there. not certain on the modules.

you have a crimestat?

[fossil wolf]

Nope

[odd snow]

weird

[fossil wolf]

Nothing i land get out and as im in the elevator it just starts shooting at my ship

[simple hawk]

Og will all bee there

[lyric peak]

I got a raft to start trucking in this game any suggestions for routes or just keep selling processed food?

[toxic citrus]

Check SC trade tools

[lyric peak]

You mean on the mobi or a separate website?

[toxic citrus]

Separate website

It will give you the best route for your ship

[lyric peak]

Thx

[glacial dagger]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities

[grand furnace]

will I get my prospector

[worldly ledge]

anyone know when the next server wipe is going to be ?

[bright star]

No one knows. Could be a few months, a year.

[worldly ledge]

@bright star have you been through one ?

[bright star]

A wipe?

[worldly ledge]

yrp

[bright star]

Yes. Most recently was in Alpha 3.15

[worldly ledge]

is it literally like youve just started the game again ?

[bright star]

pretty much

You start with your starting UEC, and your pledged ship/gear.

Everything bought in-game were wiped.

[worldly ledge]

hmmm, when that happens i might upgrade my cutty to the prospector

i really enjoyed the ROC mining... did really well at it but it is a grind !

[lyric peak]

Does anyone know when they will add cargo crates in asking for my raft

Also was wondering if the crates would be openable and accessible when they are empty? Would be interesting to use it as a drop ship with player in the crates lol.

Or just use it to load up mining material

[analog field]

Supposed to be this next patch

[sudden flower]

You just repair the ship at a station to clean the windows. You dont have to claim

[north oyster]

The buy prices (and sell prices for that matter) fluctuate a great deal

[north oyster]

The cargo refactor is towards the middle to end of the year

[delicate phoenix]

Yes but how does that effect the console showing a sale amount and that amount not matching what a calculator shows?

I didn't sell, wait for a commodity update and then try to do the math.

I'm basically asking why two calculators are showing different numbers.

Calculator A, the game, isn't matching other calculations

[north oyster]

My experience is that the payouts are rather "fluid" and the amounts are also up and down. I've never seen it be "right on the money" Plus the trading is currently a patch job. So I think you will find errors every time you sell, especially the larger the volume

[delicate phoenix]

Thanks, that's what I needed I guess.

As long as someone else has seen the totals not match so I can stop thinking it's me being an idiot.

[north oyster]

There was a huge discrepancy last year with some trades, I think the whole system is a Band-Aid over a bullet hole for now

I normally work off of the "in the ballpark" technique

Also, there are "fractions" in the cargo purchases (or refinery jobs) that don't seem to get added into a "whole" unit. So if you have multiple refinery jobs, you have multiple refinery "fractions" that are not whole

[delicate phoenix]

I think I'll just use the totals the console spits out instead of trying to automate in my spreadsheet.

Basically I'm just calculating buy prices and SCU, adding time, and spitting out a profit per hour total.

[north oyster]

you will be very close then, just not exact

this is a struggle for recovering analyticals like me

[delicate phoenix]

Thanks again for the clarification

[grand furnace]

what are the most used consumables if I need any, I have about 100k spare cash which is for the lancet head and anything else

[topaz drum]

everyone has an opinion.. but for Quant I use: Lancet + Brandt (stabilize power) + Stampede (fast thru green) + Surge (power to get to green on big rocks)

[urban flame]

so you surge then stampede and brandt when in the green?

[grand furnace]

I think I should start on smalls first

[lyric peak]

guys run processed food from wala to to ArcL1

[marble crater]

Lots of things work but I've settled on Surge, Focus 3 & FLTR-XL for mining Quant in the Halo

[lyric peak]

can anyone else go to wala

or is it broken

[urban flame]

QT to somewhere else first and try again if you cant go to wala

[wraith tusk]

RAFT > Freelancer MAX

[topaz drum]

Hit the rock, goto 100% power, see how far you get.. keep in mind, the power will build over time (i've spent 6-8mins on a rock before and broke it). If the rock is over 5000mass, you may need a Surge, run to 100% power, watch it, if the power tops out and isn't moving any higher after a minute or so, hit the Surge, that'll blast you (hopefully) to the green zone, once in Green, blast Stampede, that will fill the green zone bar faster (hopefully before the Surge wears out). Use the Brandt by itself when in the green zone on rocks that don't need Surge/Stampede, or when cracking the smaller pieces down to collectable size. Some small rocks will have very small green zones if they are high Quant, so use the Brandt to stabilize so you stay in Green and don't blow

[grand furnace]

where is the refinery shop console I only see cloths and rentals ?

[topaz drum]

Clothes, mousewheel scroll the tabs to right to Utility

mining stuff is on Utility tab on Clothes terminal

but you gotta scroll to it (is hidden)

[grand furnace]

ok

what quantanium should I mine starting out I assume small stuff

[topaz drum]

not really "small" stuff.. if you have Lancet.. you can mine without Surge modules upto about 4500-5000mass

you want >=30% quant; otherwise when you crack it down, the collectable pieces will be Quant+junk.. you want to collect 80%-100% pieces

[grand furnace]

ok

[topaz drum]

its not a hard rule tho, and starting out, you take what you can find.. so maybe its 3500mass 20%.. that's ok.. i wouldn't crack less than 20% for any reason, you'll get mostly junk; Mining is patience.. the difference between a rich miner and a poor one is the Citizen willing to pass on a junk rock and keep looking for an ElDorado

example, last night, we were mining/scouting for almost 90 mins.. passing up junk. finally found a cluster around 100SCU of Quant.. that's about 880,000 aUEC

[grand furnace]

that with the mole

[topaz drum]

no, prospectors.. we filled up 2 prospectors twice each

[obtuse raft]

yea thats scouting, playing with others, and such however. going solo ive had mixed results. especiually if your renting. my last rented prospector i lost 25k on. previous to that i made 200k. its touch and go.

the other is how much time you have to be able to use it. sometimes it may take hours of scouring to get ahead.

shame mining was nerfed so hard. makes thinking 140 bucks for a prospector not seemingly as worthwhile as just doing bounties.. till they nerf those i guess..

renting prospectors can be rough and slow business.

im guessing its to try to make ppl buy them

[topaz drum]

i've not used a rented Prosp.. my pledge ships are Prospector (for mining) + Taurus (for hauling the refined).. so, not cheap.. but very effective.. buy anything else you want in game, plenty of money

[grand furnace]

how does refining work, do you just leave it for the time stated then come back ?

[topaz drum]

yes, make a work order, pick what you want to refine, anything not chosen is LOST, pick your method (based on time, yield, cost), Get Quote, Execute (or whatever the button is).. wait real-life hours .. come back, open Work Order, load it into a ship that is STORED at that station, fly that ship to a city, go to the TD&D and sell

do not load more into your ship than it can hold, or its LOST

[grand furnace]

I only have a basic freelancer max so sadly stuff will be lost until I can upgrade

[coarse cape]

Well if you’re prospector mining you can fit two full loads into a free lancer with 2 scu to spare

[grand furnace]

did not know that

[coarse cape]

Base freelancer is 66 scu right?

Yeah

So you can fit two loads in it

[grand furnace]

yes 66 for basic 120 for max

[coarse cape]

Yeah

Assuming you completely fill your prospector you can load two orders in your free lancer

And if that’s quant that’s a pretty good amount of cash

[grand furnace]

yeh I have 2 orders running

[coarse cape]

Yeah you should be good then

So basically 100 units of a material is 1 scu so 3200 is 32 scu

[topaz drum]

120 scu / 32 scu = 3+ full Prospector loads.. When you are collecting the WorkOrder, it will show if you have enough room; Since the Yield is never 100%, even a "full" prospector won't refine to the full 32scu

[coarse cape]

Oh yeah forgot about that lol

Havent done any mining this patch

[grand furnace]

well I haven’t died or blown up yet

[topaz drum]

#Winning!

[dreamy cobalt]

Is refined quant as volitile as raw? Or can I take my time with delivery?

[grand furnace]

refined you have no worry

I have 2 jobs will be interesting to see how much money I make

[dreamy cobalt]

Good to know, thanks

Got interdicted and ransomed with my Freelancer nearly full of the stuff this morning, thought I was gonna wake up in medbay. Still made it with 2 min to spare on my 15min timer I had set

If you had 2 full prospector loads of pure quant, should end up between 450k and 520k

Assuming you do the longest refine time (about 1 day 18 hours) per load

[grand furnace]

dont think we got 32 scu of quantanium

[topaz drum]

profit is easy to calc.. just look at Yield in WorkOrder and times by 88.. so example: 2100 units = 1200 * 88 = 184K aUEC

2100 * 88 = 184k

[grand furnace]

guy I was with earlier had 18 work orders

[crude aurora]

Cargo running is ass

Nothing ever in stock at the platforms , profits vs doing bounties is just not worth it, very sad

[grand furnace]

is there any sort of protection seems the numbers go down even if you get a small jolt to your ship when going back to the refinery

[analog field]

So i'm looking for a box runner. Torn between the pices and 100i anyone have any preference?

[hoary monolith]

Is there a bug were when mining asteriods you need to aim through the icon to get keep the scan (power markings) visable?

[analog field]

I wouldn't be shocked

[grand furnace]

this session very poor found nothing over 2%

how long can you go finding nothing ?

[topaz coyote]

i actually bought the 135c in game and really like it. I upgraded the QT drive to the fastest civilian one and it's perfect for box running. The Pieces would also do well in this area. Both are perfect for box runs.

[analog field]

Which one is the 135c ? Dumb and don't know many abbreviations

Found it lol I'm just dumb

[marble crater]

Nice thing about the 100 Series is that you can also claim them from the small pads at planet outposts. Nice to have as an emergency option.

[worthy scroll]

C = cargo

[analog field]

That's what i was thinking, have had people donk me planet side

[marble crater]

yeah have had my ship nuked while I was at a outpost trading terminal haha

[grand furnace]

lol

[solid venture]

So.

[grand furnace]

where is the best spot for mining I am finding nothing on this planet

[solid venture]

Let's say I just bought a Freelancer max with in-game cash.

Let's also say I wanted to haul with it.

How deluded would I be, potentially.

[marble crater]

I like to mine in Aaron's Halo

Planet wise Lyria is good but quite busy

[grand furnace]

dunno where that is

not seen anyone here at lyria

[marble crater]

http://www.cloudsong.io/application/files/1716/1082/7995/3.12-LIVE-Rel1-Refinery_Stations_to_Aaron_Halo_Mining_Routes.pdf

many ways to get to it. it's a asteroid belt that goes all the way around Stanton

[grand furnace]

gonna take a break

[pseudo reef]

ohhhhhhhh yea......

[analog field]

Damn son

[grand furnace]

will I get quantanium quick at this aaron thing(y)

[stone orchid]

How much did that bring in so I dont have to hurt my brain doing the math Pezman?

[pseudo reef]

800k

[stone orchid]

Sweet good job that's a nice run

[grand furnace]

hopefully I should get some money with the 2 jobs I have running

[pseudo reef]

ty 🙂

[stone orchid]

We need to be taking lessons from this guy or follow him when he leaves the station to find out where he finds non glitched out rocks lol

[grand furnace]

how come I got no rocks on lyria

[odd snow]

where are u looking?

@pseudo reef Nice! Where'd ya find that sucker at?

[grand furnace]

I was on lyria all 2%

[odd snow]

try server hopping

hell i have nothing else to do, ill come down and scout for you

join my server when you get back on. we will find you something

[distant wagon]

@grand furnace if you are looking for Q, maybe just go for the clusters of more than 3 and fly by all the others. quant seems to like company

[odd snow]

Yep. On Lyria anything that spawns in pairs or more is Q.

[analog field]

The server seems to be on fire ATM

[grand furnace]

I did I found 1 by 6, 1 by 7 all 2%

[distant wagon]

go out with rooster, he can smell that stuff

[pseudo reef]

Lyria

[grand furnace]

highest I saw was 17%

[pseudo reef]

find better hoss

its there

[worthy scroll]

I've found multiple +40% on Daymar.

[grand furnace]

where is daymar again

[worthy scroll]

Crusader

[grand furnace]

might have to go there

[odd snow]

Shouldn't need to. Your best bet is to pick an area you want to base out of and stick to it. Otherwise you'll be all over the place with your refining jobs scattered all over.

Just my 2 cents.

[proper star]

whats a good mining route to start with prospector?

[odd snow]

What do you want to mine?

[proper star]

quant

[grand furnace]

what don’t you want to mine

[odd snow]

Lyria is probably the easiest. Take it to arc-L1

[odd snow]

I think there's much more stuff that I DONT want to mine.

Find good stuff is the challenge.

[proper star]

so if i were to quantum interdict some juicy prospector i should look at arcl1

[grand furnace]

I was on it found nothing will have to go back when I login

dunno how long I looked

[odd snow]

Yeah sometimes it takes a while. Other times you're tripping over it.

[odd snow]

Yeah but I dunno what you'd get out of it.

[proper star]

gameplay?

[odd snow]

Eh.

[proper star]

ransom

[odd snow]

I don't know about others but I'd rather lose the whole damn load than pay up lol. I guess I just don't agree with the type of gameplay where you prey on the defenseless. But I do understand that it is an aspect of gameplay.

[proper star]

never had one to payup in 2 days lol

[odd snow]

The biggest problem with catching minors out of lyria as they are always hauling quantanium. And they usually don't leave themselves enough time to deal with a pirate, so they will likely lose the load anyways.

[proper star]

i do cargo, i would personally payup if asked ransom, plus i ask like 5k

[odd snow]

Cargo is one thing. You don't have a timer beeping at you while you're being attacked.

[proper star]

so i should stay between arcl1 and arcorp after they refine?

[odd snow]

If I were doing this I'd be setting up near the cities where they can sell it at.

But you'd be wasting time unless you knew a load was coming in.

[proper star]

yeah so arcl1 and arcorp so i can catch em with cargo

[proper star]

true, just got bored with bounties

got a mantis to try new things

[odd snow]

Yea me too

[proper star]

thank you for the advices

[odd snow]

I mean my advice is don't mess with miners lol

We are a peaceful people 🤣

[proper star]

i know i know

nicest ppl i know in game are miners lol

[odd snow]

Cargo chasing is where it's at imo. You know how much they have and what it's worth. Extort off that data.

[proper star]

ill try arial-hurston also yeah

[odd snow]

I know many that go to microtech because it's considered a more peaceful and newb friendly area.

[proper star]

had most luck cru-hur , got a raft with scrap las time, he altf4 lol

[proper star]

was thinking about that also, looks good

cant do much alone in mantis with distortion cannons, but ill try tmrw with the team

[odd snow]

We need an armored mining ship.

The cargo ships can take some hits and dish out a fight. The prospector and mole do nothing but put on a light show.

[proper star]

that is true, but ive hears interdiction resistant qd are a thing?

maybe a mining ship should be a fast one as you said has no time to fight

[odd snow]

Not that I know of.

[proper star]

right now they are all the same but i do know of drives les prone to snare

[grand furnace]

remember last night when we had a camper at the refinery

[odd snow]

Yep

[grand furnace]

not a body about earlier when I was on lyria

[odd snow]

Huh

[proper star]

Juno Starwerks understands that your most important job is to keep your cargo safe. That's why their Huracan quantum drive prioritizes interdiction shielding, stability, and damage efficiency above everything else.

found this about this QD

[odd snow]

Nice

Wonder if it works

[proper star]

no idea

[north oyster]

Never crowded in Aaron's Halo 😁

[odd snow]

I never find anything there

Is there a certain spot y'all are dropping out at?

[north oyster]

I never had any issues when on the planet because I never used QT points too get to the surface. I would always drop from OM points

[north oyster]

Yes, that's critical

[odd snow]

Care to share? I can get to the belt. Just don't know which parts are rich.

[north oyster]

If at CRU-L1, head to ARC-L3. Drop out 11.5M to 11.2M km. If you drop out at 12, you'll find nothing

[odd snow]

And do you find enough in one place to fill a mole? Or is it usually just single rocks.

[north oyster]

The outer bands is where you need to be

Pairs, singles and clusters

I did 4 full Prospector loads yesterday

25% to 44% rocks

[odd snow]

I'm coming outta arc-L1 so I'll need to find a route for the outer band.

[north oyster]

There's a chart for that you can find

Nite! Gotta run

[odd snow]

L8t

[grand furnace]

one quant rock stuck in ground

only appeared as I picked the ones above it

[quaint gorge]

box missions: best ship?

[grand furnace]

none boxes are bugged

hope your box doesn’t fall in the ground

[quaint gorge]

ive run them for days no problems

but thanks for the advice

[grand furnace]

I had that issue sadly

[quaint gorge]

was thinking about an origin ship, something quick and cheap

[analog field]

I like the 100i

just got one for it

bonus is it can be summoned planetside on the tiny pads

[quaint gorge]

thanks!

[analog field]

Kinda pricey at 600k but it's worth imo

[quaint gorge]

its only 14 1/2 level 2 missions lol

[leaden quarry]

Anyone wanna mine? Need money

[grand furnace]

you can make money if you have a prospector

dont think I will get much as I havent found 32 scu yet in 1 go

[tawny stump]

just save 100k more and get the avenger titan then

around 726k auec iirc

widely considered the best starter ship

@quaint gorge

sorry, got the actual price, its 785k auec

but worth it

[analog field]

How the heck do people find you so fast, i just popped into Aberdeen and hopped to a random point and burned away from it at 1km a second only to have someone on me in 10 seconds

Didn't think you could scan down in this game

Happened three times on different points

[grand furnace]

did I get unlucky there was a rock in the ground that only appeared when I took up all the rest

[grand furnace]

why are all these rocks bad only got 20 scu quant

[weary tide]

did some one call u and did u pick up?

there is a bug in the game where if you pick up a call

there is some chance that you will show up for the person

even after the call ends

a

and they can track you

[analog field]

Nope didn't get any call

[grand furnace]

how many orders can you fit in 1 ship

[marble crater]

as many as you have space for

[leaden quarry]

How much is the prospector to buy? And will I get decent money for it?

[marble crater]

bit over $2M + around 150K for modules/parts. Money can be great but mining has rng, sometimes you'll strike Quant in under 15 minutes, other times it could be almost an hour

[thin escarp]

@analog field some ships have massive signatures

like the mole

you can ping the mole 75 km away type shit

@leaden quarry 2 mil 61k for the prospector. 26k for a lancet. like 40k in modules with surge and such

you can make 200-275k a run if you know what you are doing.

[analog field]

I was in the cutty, but i had no idea you were visible beyond 10km so thank you!

[grand furnace]

you can’t know if you will strike on each mining trip

[thin escarp]

@grand furnace i mean i don't have issues

[grand furnace]

ok

[thin escarp]

unless the server is fucked i pretty much strike 600k+ in my mole every 30 minutes

[analog field]

If you look enough you'll find something. Even with a string of bad luck

[grand furnace]

I got 20 scu on last go

[leaden quarry]

Yeah might rent it tomorrow. I need 3 mil in 2 days but don't think I will be able to do it

[marble crater]

I don't advise renting as you can't change the loadout

[grand furnace]

I will probably look for a mining group or smth today

[leaden quarry]

Might have too

How much is it to buy?

I have 1.1 mil right now and kinda stingy to buy anything currently

[analog field]

2.1 ish m for the prosp

[grand furnace]

I am doing ok with the mining

[leaden quarry]

Yeah can't buy it then

Gonna have to find a group

Need to get money quick and fast

[marble crater]

why do you need it in 2 days?

[blissful rain]

Before JT

?

[hollow sedge]

which sub items should i get?

[distant wagon]

something that compliments your laser https://imgur.com/a/7Rwn1fy

[visual karma]

been out of the mining game for a bit now, can anyone recommend somewhere for prospector mining? i only have basic setup right now so nothing too hard

i also have a ROC if thats more profitable

[distant wagon]

maybe halo for prospector, alot of smaller rocks out there if you dont have decent laser

[hollow sedge]

thank you

[distant wagon]

http://www.cloudsong.io/application/files/1716/1082/7995/3.12-LIVE-Rel1-Refinery_Stations_to_Aaron_Halo_Mining_Routes.pdf

[visual karma]

now thats interesting, should i be worried about it saying its the 3.12 version?

[distant wagon]

nope, its still current

[visual karma]

awesome im gonna read it over and see how it goes thank you 🙂

[distant wagon]

just split the numbers and you should be good

[visual karma]

split the numbers?

[distant wagon]

it gives a range to the halo for its thickness

[visual karma]

alright ill try to keep that in mind then. im getting to space then ill look it over

[rough plinth]

i keep running into selling ore error in transaction in the refinery of cru1

is this a known bug ?

because i have tried server hopping and still get the error and its legit game breaking.

[urban flame]

why u selling ore and not refining it?

[rough plinth]

because i don't have a cargo ship yet and just started out

[urban flame]

you can rent a cutty black in the refinery for like 30k

or a connie for 70k

[rough plinth]

yeah lemme see i don't have 30k to spare so i am trying to find ways i can get said money

[urban flame]

you mining in a prospector?

[rough plinth]

i am

[urban flame]

is it bought or rented?

[rough plinth]

bought

[urban flame]

do you have a lancet?

[rough plinth]

yes

[urban flame]

ok so you should be making 281,600aUEC per prospector load if you mine quant

[distant wagon]

what is your in game name abigor, ill send you the 30k to rent cutty

[rough plinth]

aight gimme a sec

[urban flame]

he wont want to rent it yet until he's mined a load of stuff, put it into the refinery and waited just over a day for the jobs to finish so he can rent the cutty and sell them all at the same time

[distant wagon]

doesnt he have a load ready to put into refinery? or did he lose the error load

[urban flame]

if he uses the dynx solvenation process which is the high yield, low cost, high time method then it'll take more than 24 hours to process anyway

[rough plinth]

first off lemme say i am not a vet in this game just having a hard time since the game is pretty buggy

[distant wagon]

we all are having a hard time lol

[rough plinth]

honestly i wish they fixed the bugs more than pump content out

rather have a stable version than something thats going to run into bugs from left to right

[urban flame]

well it is in alpha so we're effectively play testing it for them to find the bugs

[rough plinth]

watcher orion btw @distant wagon

thats the name

and thanks for at least helping me out

i mean isn't PTU play test anyways ?

lol

why have PTU when we already have PTU anyways

just doesn't add up to have another version of ptu when they can't even fix whats going on right now with hot fixes .....they are still going through the moon bug where it blows up your ship

[distant wagon]

makes it interesting ;p

[rough plinth]

lol i guess

btw ty sir for the loan

[distant wagon]

np

[analog field]

Anyone else have the hand miner crash their game? Doing clear cave missions and wherever i bring out the multitool my game hard freezes

[ivory forge]

How do you check fuel status on ROC?

[grand furnace]

I am taking anything at the moment not worried about 32 scu

[worldly ledge]

Just made a new Mole profile for my stream deck , apart from jettison volatile cargo what other important functions should I put on there for the mole ?

Have the space to the right to fill

[topaz drum]

Looks good,but why buttons for Consumables on all stations? You can only fire the station you’re in?

[worldly ledge]

Lol I had this question already

Each laser has 3 module slots fired using alt 1 alt 2 and alt 3 …. In the load out manager each laser has slot 1 2 and 3 but clever CIG have screwed up the programming so that it’s different in each laser .. soooo…. I either work out which slot is which or I just change the alt combination

i.e if you put the same module in the same slot over all three lasers and then use alt 1 2 and 3 then this happens

[topaz drum]

Wow didn’t know that; only used same station in my Mole, and when in different station was different Mole so never noticed… crazy

[worldly ledge]

So all I did was change the key bind on the stream deck, obvs I could swap the modules in the load out but decided to make a pretty key pad instead 😂

Actually I haven’t checked the central laser yet because I have 3 filters on it at the moment

[loud mural]

someone wanna go mining ?

[fluid cargo]

Hello! Im new to the game. Like 5 days new. started mining. got the roc and rented the black. Can anybody share me a good tips and place where i can mine and what to mine 😛

[visual karma]

Hey just heard “some” locations are buying scrap again. Would anyone know which ones?

I heard the following ones were buying:
ARC-L1, CRU-L5, HUR-L5, and MIC-L1

And the sellers are:
Orison and PO

Can I believe this to be accurate?

[bright star]

Used to work for a while. Now you're not able to sell them at those locations any longer.

So at the moment, avoid buying scraps.

[crimson mantle]

Technically correct, but it's bugged at the moment.
Check fluorine in the meantime 😄

[crimson oak]

aye its still bugged again, id focus on titanium, astatine and diamonds. Laranite and Agricium where possible but they're usually sold out.

[west bear]

hi all! I rented a prospector and saw there was a module slot available. can I put a surge in there?

sorry consumable slot

[near pilot]

do anyone know that is there fix date for prospector UI?

[subtle cradle]

No not on a rented prospector sadly

[loud mural]

dude why does the taurus suck to land like that ?

[worthy scroll]

Just gotta learn how to land it. Once you do, it's fine. The C2 on the other hand... Sucker goes nose down no matter what you do.

[loud mural]

i know i have to just slow down but like

i don't like slow

i like fast

inserts donald trump reference

is laranite ok now ?

it doesn't seem to be broken for me

[pliant matrix]

Laranite is ok just not enough stock for all the people trading it

so you rarely even fill a freelancer

[subtle cradle]

I just fill my C2 up with as much Laranite available and then whatever else is for sale at the outpost, astatine, diamond, titanium or whatever.
I usually have to wait 10 - 15 min. to fill up completely and last time I made around 80k selling a full C2.
Which isn't much, but a nice break from bounties and mining

Investment vs time vs risk vs profit, I wouldn't say it's a very good way to get rich

[odd snow]

Yea I don’t like putting all my money on the line just to make 80k. They need to fix trading. Barrier of entry is high but reward is crap.

[subtle cradle]

Yeah I invested 5 mil in a cargo ship only to make 80k profit for 30 min. work with what? 3-400k invested in the cargo

[hollow sedge]

I agree with that statement. Trading seems very underpaid and more risky than mining, for lower payout.

Especially considering you can make 80k and 1 group and 1 single vhrt in literally 10 min

[subtle cradle]

I need to make 4-5 succesfull cargo runs to outweigh the risk of losing my investment

It's a bit poopy

[mental granite]

are some box delivery missions bugged for you guys? I keep getting 1-2 a day where the dropoff/pickup kiosk gives an error saying "Request not found". Happened on all my landing pad locker pickups in New Babbage yesterday

[analog field]

The hot planets are the best for roc mining alberdeen or what ever. You want hadanite. Safest to pick a point warp to it and fly in a direction fast as you can fly like 50+ km to get away from people waiting to murder you. Fly low and slow scanning, gems show up within 1.2 ish kilometers.

[mental granite]

on another note, what are the best mining routes for a rented prospector? (so no quant)

[odd snow]

@mental granite Aberdeen was always good to me.

[grand furnace]

rubbish today found nothing

[north oyster]

ROC mining is suffering greatly for now (since 3.14). Ping issues, scan issues, laser issues, collection issues, component issues - other than that, it's doing great

For Prospect mining, get a Lancet (don't use the Helix). A great spot is in Aaron's Halo out of CRU-L1. Quantainium is your goal.

From CRU-L1 QT towards ARC-L3. When at 11.5M Km from ARC-L3, drop out QT travel (hold the 'B' button or hit ' i ' to kill your engines).

Your target goals is 11.5M to 11.2M Km from ARC-L3. This is towards the outer bands of the asteroid belt.

You don't need the Surge, but that will help speed up harvesting.

Best method is to fly a ship (or prospector if you wish) to Port Olisar and buy the S1 Surge there and move them to the ship inventory. Once back at CRU-L1, move it to the station inventory.

[grand furnace]

what returns can you get at the halo compared with lyria

[grand furnace]

also is the belt easy to get at

[north oyster]

I find mining the belt offers for me several benefits.

1. weather, gravity and other factors found on the moon surface isn't an issue
2. pirates or marauders are not an issue

3. Searching is pretty easy, I set the refinery as my QT point and just scan as I go that way

4. speed of access back to the refinery. I rarely have any issues with the timer and actually dock my ship before the alarm has chimed a single time

5. When in the right spot, you will normally find a huge Quan rock in under 10 min, usually in 5.

6. Nice and quiet, like fishing in a huge lake with no one to bother you

The other day I did 4 runs of 28 to 32 SCU of Quan for each run.

[torpid mesa]

Anyone working on mining that is in need of crew or scouts?

[north oyster]

Be sure to hook up with @thin escarp and his crew LOST, they always have tons of activity going on

[torpid mesa]

Good looking out @north oyster I appreciate that.

[worldly ledge]

CHEDDAR !

And I didn’t even manage to suck it all up ! Volatile alarm started going off while I was still in the belt !

[north oyster]

BE CAREFUL A new patch is coming

[worldly ledge]

When ?

[north oyster]

it's in the PTU, so you might want stretch it beyond this refinery job time to complete. You may want to do the faster higher yield

I have 4 of so jobs in the refinery I need to pull and take to market

[worldly ledge]

I have 32,352 units in work orders at the moment

[grand furnace]

I have 2 jobs complete in 5 hours

[north oyster]

you are good, not seeing before Thursday but I'm not a prophet

[grand furnace]

then another 2 jobs I forgot

should we hold off on mining then ?

[north oyster]

I think I would

[worthy scroll]

That new patch just hit the PTU yesterday. You still have a while before it's live and you have to worry about refinery wipes.

[worldly ledge]

Nearly 3 mil in work orders , I better start moving !

[grand furnace]

Lol

[north oyster]

This path is a very lite patch, same kernel ... no changes but adding a few items. It is probably ready to deploy.

You will want to clear all your refinery jobs pronto

Again, they could delay taking it LIVE ... so it is anyones guess

[grand furnace]

dont think I have much money in the 4 orders smth like 500k

might switch to jobs as I recently got rank 4 with hurston security

[odd snow]

Man I don't get some of these rocks. I just came across 2: 6216 @ 33.46% which should net 41SCU, and 6729 @ 35.14% which should net 47SCU.... Broke them up, nothing exploded, started scooping and got anything that had quant in it. left some yellow outlined rocks that had 0 quant, but anything that had any % of quant I picked up, and had a total of 46SCU by the time i was done. I dont get that.... there were maybe 4 chunks on the ground when I was done so i didn't miss anything, and most of those chunks were 100% quartz or inert.

[subtle cradle]

Wow this makes me wanna not get the mole anyway. That should have been 2 really good rocks..

[odd snow]

yea, makes me love having it while breaking them up, but when it's almost half of what it should be it pisses me off

Back to bounties for now. too irritated to go mining again for half

[sage field]

is C2 Hercules worth grinding for?

[grand furnace]

I might mine again later, but found nothing earlier

[odd snow]

@sage field Depends what youre getting it for.... if youre getting into the trade business, sure. If youre trying to haul your refined ore to market, not so much

[mental granite]

Why is the C2 not good for hauling refined ore?

[sage field]

ok thanks

[odd snow]

For the cost of aquisition, and the frequency of use, its severe overkill

[crimson mantle]

It can haul >20 prospector's load in it. It's usually overkill 😄

[odd snow]

It'd take forever to fill it, youd spend a month trying to fill it up to fly it once a month... just not worth it

[grand furnace]

what is the most popular quantanium selling ship

small patch, are we still ok with the refinery ?

[lyric peak]

Is private property bugged?

[mild pumice]

I finally saved up and bought a prospector, I got the lancet for it as that seems to be the mining head of choice, are the other attachments important? I did a bit of mining around one of the refinery deck, I was keen to see if I could fill as much SCU as possible without any inert materials, mostly found diamonds and borase which I was happy enough with. Got around 55scu with 2 trips and put on a 24hr refine. Hopefully I get a reasonable return tomorrow 💰

[grand furnace]

Lol

return is junk if not quantanium

[lyric peak]

anyone know anything about private property not seeing ships

[odd snow]

Not really...

I pickup anything in bright green if the concentration is 2.5% or more. The darker green I'll only pickup if it's 10% or more. I don't bother with anything else.

Sure you don't make quant money, but you can still knock out nice run over 100k

[grand furnace]

ok

[mild pumice]

Yeah I don't worry about the big bucks more just the experience

As long as I make some profit lol

[worldly ledge]

There was loads of quant in this lot

[odd snow]

yea sometimes going after the same thing in the same places gets old. I like to go to the moons ive never been to and see what i can find to mine there.

dont always have to make the Q bucks

[worldly ledge]

Fxxx ! Just loaded up a connie to take a load of work orders, it was empty, turns out I loaded up an expired rented connie !

[distant wagon]

ouch

[worldly ledge]

Need to fly back and see what’s going on

You’d think they sort the basics out first 🤦‍♂️

[mental granite]

I think all the "drug labs" without a landing pad are bugged and won't see your ships 😦

[velvet snow]

What are some good go-to mining modules? I have 3 slots

[distant wagon]

surge and stampede should be up there on list

[velvet snow]

But they have limited uses though?

[distant wagon]

5 uses each

[thin escarp]

@odd snow coulda fell through planet

@mental granite c2 is amazing for me

I do a ton of mole runs

[odd snow]

^^ With a team helping you, and scouts...

[distant wagon]

@velvet snow here is a list of mods and what they do to compare https://imgur.com/a/7Rwn1fy

[thin escarp]

@odd snow that's what the mole is for. a small team.

[odd snow]

Yea, thats the original intent. But I know more solo mole miners than I do team miners.

If you have a team to support the volume, hell yes the C2 makes sense

[thin escarp]

here's a more updated mining guide.

[odd snow]

Guess i should have asked the OP that question

What changed?

[worldly ledge]

Yep, just lost over 800,000 !

[thin escarp]

@worldly ledge ouch

[distant wagon]

thanks for sharing @thin escarp good detailed guide there

[worldly ledge]

Fuckin stupid rental ships hanging around in inventory and completely in distinguishable from each other in the work orders !

[odd snow]

Oh that sucks balls

[thin escarp]

@worldly ledge I'll be mining ina few hours I'll help ya earn it back

[worldly ledge]

I’m turning off now I think, going to go and sulk

[odd snow]

lol

[worldly ledge]

And this is why I want an M2

[odd snow]

@thin escarp I'd like to tag along if you have room

[thin escarp]

feel ya. last night arc l1 was shooting my ship and no one had a cs

[distant wagon]

haha now i know two ppl who lost 800k

[thin escarp]

so I had to jettison 88 scu of quant.

[odd snow]

@distant wagon 😩

[distant wagon]

lol

[thin escarp]

@odd snow ya man I can let ya know when I'm about to roll out

I always need crew. usually got 3-5 moles going

[odd snow]

k. any idea what time so I can try to make myself available?

[velvet snow]

It seems like a lot of items in the displays in refineries cannot be bought. Only the 3 outside of the case

[thin escarp]

like 2.5 hrs is safe

[odd snow]

k

[thin escarp]

@velvet snow scroll right on clothing terminal

[odd snow]

@velvet snow Get them from the terminal in the refinery store.

[thin escarp]

in the refinery

[velvet snow]

omg

[worldly ledge]

@velvet snow scroll wheel in terminal

[thin escarp]

been pretty good lately my average run is 700k.

[velvet snow]

why would they do it like that

[odd snow]

So I learned that you cannot pickup useless crap to get it out of the way of the good stuff, and then jettison it to make room for the juice. Apparently jettison only blows the Q out and nothing else?

[thin escarp]

@odd snow yessir

[worldly ledge]

Why would they leave an expired rental accessible !

[odd snow]

lame

[worldly ledge]

ARRRRRRRGH !

[thin escarp]

only volatile cargo rn

[worldly ledge]

Fukin 800k 🤦‍♂️

[odd snow]

@worldly ledge This will last a day or two. I was in your shoes a few days ago

Now it's scabbed over and I don't pick it anymore

[thin escarp]

happens man. I lost a billion auec when 3.15 hit ha

[worldly ledge]

That’s obscene !

[thin escarp]

that's after I gave away 800 mil in the last 10 days of 3.14

[worldly ledge]

Well if you need a lap dance 😂

[thin escarp]

hqhaha

I'm not back to billionaire status

[thin escarp]

I'm at like 28 mil rn

been buying ships etc. running a racing league. gets expensive

[worldly ledge]

Damn.. right I’m off … byes

[blissful rain]

did u get billion from exploits?

[thin escarp]

no I run massive scale mining operations.

already mined 175 mil in the last 30 days.

[inner vigil]

Damn that’s sick what region you play in man?

[grand furnace]

I am back to jobs for a bit had no luck with mining have to check refinery later

[topaz coyote]

@thin escarp so you have a mining org and they give you a cut of their proceeds?

[arctic sparrow]

he pays us out for work

pilots/laser operators/scouts

profit get split between crew

[topaz coyote]

175 mil in 30 days... that's a massive operation with people that eat/shit/sleep SC, right?

[grand furnace]

I would probably have more luck in a mole crew

[thin escarp]

@inner vigil usa

@topaz coyote oh yea

[inner vigil]

Ahhk no worries I’m aus sadly

[thin escarp]

@inner vigil we have people all over though

I'll be mining in like an hr and a half

if anyone wants in

[inner vigil]

Oh sick what’s ur org man?

[thin escarp]

can't recruit here but add me

😇

[inner vigil]

XD shit my bad haha

Added tho

[north oyster]

Congrats on your effort in getting a Prospector. Keep at it and learn up mine the top ore of choice. Mining Quantainium earns you about 250K to 275K aUEC per trip

[lyric peak]

Never landing at crusader again

Take like 20% of my raft hydrogen tank just to get out it atmosphere

With a mix speed of 168

[north oyster]

I avoid Orison like the plague

[mild pumice]

You don't need to land there to sell tho, you can land at PO and take a small ship down, I use my 85x as a shuttle its fast

[north oyster]

That's what I do at ArcCorp

[analog field]

I hate that place lol

[mild pumice]

I just sit in the bar with my top hat and monocle counting my trade profit

[analog field]

If you buy junk there, you can access it from the port?

[mild pumice]

Scrap is broken right now

[north oyster]

Yes, at all planets you can do this

Friends don't let friends do scrap

[analog field]

That's great to know, my 100i will be a life saver then

[subtle cradle]

True. Didn't know that! Thanks

Gonna buy a 85x just for this. Well either that or a Razor

[mild pumice]

85x is very nice to fly in atmosphere that's why I like it

Some ships (m50 for example) are terrible in atmosphere. Not tried the Razor

Also the second seat is great if you want to give a ride lol

[subtle cradle]

Interesting. It would save me almost a mil going 85x...

[mild pumice]

Not as fast but the c8x is a handy shuttle, good for parcels, 3 seats and was a fan favourite at JT

[subtle cradle]

Yeah I have both pisces and a reliant which does very well as transport, but I need a ship that can spawn at outposts anyway

[mild pumice]

Ships can spawn at outposts?

I didn't know that

[shrewd kayak]

size 1 ships can spawn at outposts.

[subtle cradle]

Yeah 85x and 100i apparently can. Haven't tried it yet myself though

[mild pumice]

Awesome

[subtle cradle]

Wait that includes pisces then?

[shrewd kayak]

nope, pisces is size 2

i think the list of size 1 ships is m50, 100i, 125a, 130c, 85x, both MPUVs, the razors, and oddly enough both talons are size 1.

[analog field]

The 100i can, just did it

[odd snow]

wait, so when i take my refined ore to loreville to sell, i can just land at Everus Harbor and take a little shuttle down to the TDD terminal to sell all my quant?

[worthy scroll]

You can if you want. I find that takes longer so I just bring the big ship down (cargo running, but the same thing).

[analog field]

Heavier ships have as hell of a time getting off or orison so i can see the appeal

[worthy scroll]

Yeah. I tend to not go there (ever if I can help it). I mostly sell at Lorville, so I don't mind taking the C2 down and back up.

[grand furnace]

why is there no cargo on my ship ?

I moved it from the refinery

[arctic sparrow]

better to mine with prospector in asteroids or on planet?

[thin escarp]

@arctic sparrow well

no ghost rocks on lyria

the belt has ghost rocks

@grand furnace its probably a visual bug

you cant see the physiccal cargo rn

[grand furnace]

what is not a bug

got 320k for my sell

[subtle cradle]

Can someone confirm that talon spawns at outposts?

This would be very hot

[grand furnace]

what should I upgrade to from a freelancer max

[subtle cradle]

Taurus

That is the all arounder cargo ship up from freelancer

[grand furnace]

ok I am at 1 million now plus the 3 jobs still in the refinery

[odd snow]

yep i have a taurus, its nice. 172scu

[worthy scroll]

Buying in game or real $?

If you just want cargo and you're buying in game, I'd say keep saving and get a C2. 4x the cargo capacity for less than double the price of a Taurus.

[chrome beacon]

I haven't been keeping up, has the issue with not being able to trade at outposts been fixed?

[mental granite]

dont think so

[chrome beacon]

Yeesh, ok thanks

[grand furnace]

guy showed me his carrack earlier

[patent tiger]

yo anyone here know how to mine i could use crew

i dont know how but i have a dhip and ill even split pay

i have a mole and a freelancer for after its refined

[grand furnace]

?

[urban sky]

cargo worth rn?

[thin escarp]

still borked

@urban sky

gotta go for the realllllly cheap shit

[urban sky]

i made 10k profit for selling 46SCus of med supplies

[subtle cradle]

RIP

Cargo sucks atm sadly

[lusty willow]

is mining worth while to try and make money? I have not tried mining at all yet

[distant wagon]

worth it if you own the ship, not so much if u rent

[cedar flower]

cant wait to see more of the Hull A for 3.17

Hope I get it as loaner

[devout thistle]

Time for some 2AM Titanium running

[weary quarry]

Same 👍👍😁

I have one 😁

[grand furnace]

what mining modules should I buy

[velvet snow]

I found a deposit of gemstones but can't seem to mine them with my multitool, any clues?

[ivory forge]

It might be something large enough to warrant a ROC laser?

[velvet snow]

I guess? I've never done gem mining outside of prison

[inland cedar]

The rock on your HUD, is it a boulder or a gemstone?

[velvet snow]

It's a gem

But they were pretty sizable rocks

[inland cedar]

Yeah probably need a ROC or a second person with a hand laser

[grand furnace]

if you do decide to try the roc remember it is a bit bugged at the moment

lol

[worthy scroll]

With a big enough ship it is. I pull 70-90k per run with my C2 just buying and selling whatever is available and flying from moon to planet. It's easy, lazy money.

[odd snow]

I'd run surge, stampede, and fltr-XL on a prospector

should allow you to break bigger rocks and get as much mineral as you can

[astral oasis]

so cargo running is still somewhat viable?

[worthy scroll]

Definitely. But viable is up to the individual. Running box missions is viable. You make crap money doing it, but you do make money. Running cargo is viable, but what you make depends entirely on your cargo capacity.

If all you care about is credits per hour, then bounty missions will get you farther with less cost. I can make similar money in my C2 if I want, but it's also the biggest cargo ship in the game right now and you wont make near as much with anything smaller.

[fierce ore]

Is it possible for the Lancet mining head to break rocks with a mass over 5000 with the correct attachments and method? (Solo mining)

[inland cedar]

Yes, with a bit of luck and the correct setup you can break 8k rocks

I do Lancet, Surge x2, Stampede

[hollow sedge]

هل من عرب هنا ؟

[grand furnace]

?

[thin escarp]

@lusty willow mining is the most lucrative and stable money making method on sc

don't rent a prospector though

[lusty willow]

olk cool thanks problem is just started a couple of days ago and have a titan and a gladius so dont have anything i could mine with

[coarse cape]

I would say try roc mining but I think it’s still borked

[crisp bison]

roc mining works well enough for me

[thin escarp]

roc mining is fine. gotta know what ur doing

a few bugs tho

@lusty willow I suggest saving money up to buy a roc. its 172k.

then you can rent a cutlas to travel it around n look for rocks pretty cheap

[lusty willow]

so the ROC gets flown to where there are surface rocks 0on planets and then you land and from there use the ROC?

[thin escarp]

you fly around like aberdeen scanning for the lil gems

[lusty willow]

Is there a place where I can see what minirals is on what planets and where is the best place to sell?

[thin escarp]

then land and mine it scoop it up

then you sell it on planet

I can send you a guide

[lusty willow]

that would be hugely appreciated 🙂

[mental granite]

I have a Cutlass Black, want to save for a Prospector. is it better to buy a ROC or rent a Prospector to make 2 mil mining/refining?

[topaz drum]

Buy a ROC.. you can make money with it, and you can use it for the long haul, take breaks from ship mining; Rented prospectors are limited in what they can mine, cost 50K to rent and make maybe 50-75K per run; ROC, while harder to use now that patches ago, will still net you 100-200K per run

[tight steeple]

hi there. I'm not that good in solo mining prospector to farm Quant. I wonder if anyone want to team up, 2 prospector to farm at lyria

[odd snow]

Sure will be nice when you can share ships. There are lots of times when I'm not using my mole. Would be cool if someone else could use it to fill up, park it back at the station, and then ill start the work order and pay you based off the contents when I am back on

@tight steeple Im usually around. You should be able to mine most solo, but when you find a big rock you will need help breaking it

[mental granite]

i really want to be able to share cargo between ships. Like i mine on a prospector, a friend comes by on his hauler and takes my cargo to refine so i can keep mining

[odd snow]

Yes that would be awesome for multiplayer mining ops

[tight steeple]

thanks, can you add me ingame so I can join your session later? Also i'd like to ask what module is to stabilize the bloddy rock? I just exploded a rock, ship and myself 😐 it was too instable 5.6 O_o I remember in the past farm with a friend 2 prospectors and it was very easy and loads of farm. My handle is spyvspy

[odd snow]

I use a lancet head which helps a lot.

what is your in-game name

ill add you

[tight steeple]

My handle is spyvspy

[subtle cradle]

With surge and stampede modules on your prospector you won't actually need help

It is a bit hard to control though. I just started using them

[thin oak]

why do my modules disappear every time I load in

[tight steeple]

Lancet MH1?

[subtle cradle]

Yes

MH2 is for Mole only

[tight steeple]

Ahh reduces 75% instabillity but has less power -30% .

[odd snow]

It's the go to laser. No worries.

[odd snow]

If the ship was damaged, destroyed, or claimed you can lose the modules.

[thin oak]

its so sad ....

[odd snow]

i mean unless youre running a high end passive it's not an expensive loss. But, just dont crash your ship 🙂

[thin escarp]

@mental granite do not rent the prospector

@thin oak are you claiming the ship?

[deep bronze]

Why not?

[thin oak]

yeah because it makes me claim the ship ever time i spawn in the world. i even store it before i log out.

[topaz coyote]

@deep bronze don't rent the prospector for the sole purpose of mining quant. you can still mine other things (e.g. Borase, Titanium, etc) and refine those in an effort buy the prospector. I believe that's what Cross meant

[deep bronze]

Oh thanks! Cause that's one of my goal ships :)

[odd snow]

You have to change your spawn location bud.

[thin oak]

no i its still area 18

[odd snow]

Decide where you want to park and base out of, move the ship there, store it, then go to the medical center there and find the terminal to move your regineration point to that station. That way if you die, you will always spawn where you're ships are based. The only time you should have to claim a ship is when its destroyed.

[jolly igloo]

Can you change to asteroid stations?

[odd snow]

yes

mine is set for ARC-L1

[thin escarp]

@deep bronze the stock laser cant mine shit

[grand furnace]

you wouldn’t crash quantanium or poof

[grand furnace]

got my refinery goods sold

[odd snow]

you a rich man now?

[grand furnace]

got about 1.5 million again soon, so nearly made the money back on the bought prospector

[brisk vale]

idk if this is the right channel but i am trying to use the argus mole to mine but whenever i get into the mining turret i cant do anytthing

[distant wagon]

power on for turret?

[brisk vale]

whats the key for turret power?

[distant wagon]

well i wrote in wrong chat, i said it to you in the server channel ;p

[lilac patio]

Is renting an ROC worth for the purpose of buying it or should I just save up doing illegal surveillance?

[grand furnace]

roc is a bit bugged at the moment

[topaz drum]

ROC isn't "bugged" per se, it's just hard to find the gems.. fly low and slow, you can definetly make enough to buy via renting. 172K = 9 missions though, so I'd probably just do that.

[thin escarp]

@brisk vale hold f for and look for power on

[odd snow]

Hold F, and click on the ceiling above the MFD's.

Just dont turn it off, it shuts the engines off too and you fall.

[drifting flower]

Can ROC cargo not make a container anymore for gems?

[analog field]

Man why do people hate on the roc so much, i have had very few probs with it. At least no more than the prosp and less than the bunker missions

[ivory fiber]

I just made 113k from mine so I'm not complaining, almost enough to buy one instead of renting now haha

[topaz drum]

I don't believe you can 'box up' the gems any more.. have to sell from the ROC

[grand furnace]

I only had 1 bunker last night where a mob would not spawn, does happen but not very common in my opinion since I have been churning them out

[brisk vale]

when i start a refinery order do i have to leave my ship there? or does it take the ore from my ship

and what happens when its done?

[mental granite]

Can't you move the gems from ROC to your ship inventory?

[verbal cargo]

it'll take the ore from your ship. when it's done you'll have to go back to the refinery terminal, collect the completed order and put it on a cargo ship, then go sell

[brisk vale]

whats a good cargo ship to match the mole

[verbal cargo]

RAFT, Mercury Star Runner, Freelancer MAX are all good

[brisk vale]

thx:)

[long wing]

Is ROC mining a good way of making money to the prospector?

[north oyster]

ROC mining has a few challenges. Ping is busted, scanning is busted, laser has problems, collection is wonky, components wear out quick - other than that, it's great

[long wing]

Yeah sounds like fun

☹️

might just stick to bounty hunting

[thin escarp]

c2 is great aswell

@brisk vale

make sure you choose ferron exchange or dinyx solventation

otherwise your gonna lose yield or overpay

[analog field]

They like to spawn in the elevators and get stuck occasionally

[marble skiff]

Is a Taurus good enough for trading?

[north oyster]

It's a great ship but medium size trading isn't very developed. You can make profit, just not tons

[marble skiff]

How much should I expect to make in a single cargo haul trip?

[thin escarp]

@marble skiff cargo kinda borked.

been borked for ages. unless ur trading very very cheap stuff

[brisk vale]

ok so i finished the refinery order

where do i sell now?

[thin escarp]

lmao that was quick.

the tdd at lorville or area 18 is easiest

make sure you aren't picking cormack or your losing hella money.

gotta choose the right refining methods or it's awful

[mental granite]

anyone who can bring a transport ship take a noob ROC climbing with you?

[odd snow]

Where u at?

[mental granite]

port tressler atm

[odd snow]

And what r u trying to do?

[mental granite]

just take the ROC out for a spin and get a first haul

travelling to Hurston to buy one either way

[odd snow]

I'm at hurston right now selling ore. Can meet you here when I'm done.

[mental granite]

ah well my game crashed as i got to Lorville so back to where I started 😅

might just stay here and do missions, another time @odd snow

might just stay here and do missions, another time @odd snow

[odd snow]

K

[brisk vale]

whats the best size 2 mining head

laser*

[ivory forge]

So I'm in a rented prospector. Where is good for mining?

[analog field]

Lyria or AAron belt

need smaller junkish rocks

[ivory forge]

What should I be looking for? Just low inert rocks?

[analog field]

Nah anything that's not quant basically. so borase and the like

under 5k mass if you can find em

There's a list somewhere about what's worth what

you just can't crack quant rocks with the loaner... well not without help

[grand furnace]

rental prospector is next to dead

[brisk vale]

whats good to mine in a mole

also what r the best drills i can put on it?

[jagged hearth]

roc mining is forked but i did manage to go from 40k to a prospector and helix laser over 3 days my friends who are new were always asking how much i made an hour wit it and i said its inconclusive cause i would go 2 hours and get nothing then all in 40 mins i would fill it but i eventually found a route which was supplying me with consistent hadanite

i went to aberdeen went from anderson due N to om 1 then from there sw and just follow the sun to the right

[analog field]

long asyou are away from PoIs on there you are pretty safe, jsut takes a bit to fill

[ivory forge]

I feel like I was making more money in a fixed 60min window with less effort in a rented ROC than I was in a rented prospector. But mind you the refinements haven't finished. Still. I may go back to the super buggy ROC mining after my lease ends. At least for a while longer

Simply having to come back to unload less often makes a huge difference given I can't have the higher value commodities in my hold with a rented prospector

[analog field]

The roc makes consistent money just tedious

[ivory forge]

I feel like if there wasn't a 30-40% chance of finding bugged nodes, it'd be less tedious

Shame cause its pretty good money and as you say, consistent

I'm also baffled at how little cargo the prospector can hold

The tiny roc holds 60scu, prospector only holds 36 wtf

[marble crater]

Finding Hadanite that's glitched into the terrain is super annoying

It's pretty slow going but I still do a bit of ROC mining as something different

[ivory forge]

Is there any specific way to consistently find laranite with the prospector or is just pure luck?

[analog field]

The roc is Mscu

laranite is barely worth

the roc isn't even 1 scu overal. but gems are tiny

[pure portal]

is laranite trading worth it?

[worthy bough]

Should i, as a solo, get a prospect or just go with the mole and team up whenever to do quantamanium

[hollow sedge]

Get a Mole and solo it. Makes good coin and you get lots of exercise climbing up and down the ladder...

[thin escarp]

@ivory forge rented prospector is uselesss

roc will beat it every time

prospector can average 200-275k a run its solid when you have the correct loadout

mole mining isnt that efficient solo

@ivory forge if your lookin for laranite yela is pretty big for it. but like i said the rental prospector is useless

i'd go the roc route until you can buy it straight up

[quiet night]

As our resident mining guru what would you recommend for a prospecter? Currently I just use three of the ones who filter out the inert stuff

[thin escarp]

if you wanna break bigger quant rocks.

surge

is solid.

i can send you my mining guide with some loadouts on it

[quiet night]

If you would sir I'd be very grateful

[hollow sedge]

can you send me it as well, i've just saved up enough for the prospector and the consumables

[ivory forge]

Given the cheap rental price, would you recommend buying or renting. I figure renting is cheaper but I lost a load because the rent expired so I'm salty about that. That was at least 20-30k worth. Thinking buying is worth given it gets rid of lot of hassle

[thin escarp]

@quiet night @hollow sedge sent lemme know if you have questions or need someone to show ya the ropes.

@ivory forge roc is fairly cheap never rented.

but I have some guys that rent to own

1 roc full of hadanite you can buy a roc.

[analog field]

I am having a dick of a time today with my ships blowing up for zero reason

Just blew up on the pad trying to get into my ship

[blissful rain]

Why larranite? go for quantum

[ivory forge]

The rental can't be modified so can't do quant

[blissful rain]

do some bounties instead and buy a prospector in game

[ivory forge]

My nomad is OK but not fantastic at bounties. Especially in atmosphere. The ROC mining is pretty chill. Now that my prospector rent has expired I think I'll go back to that for a while till I can buy a prospector 🙂

[blissful rain]

quality

[analog field]

Anyone else get hard crashes randomly from hand mining still?

I don't need to but my greed gets me

[jagged hearth]

so i just started prospector mining going for ideally quantanium found my ideal spots where im getting lots but little idea on how to mine efficiently so im getting rocks with 25% but when i mine them i tend to overcharge i got the helix lazer with stampede torpid and surge consumables i did some research and the lancet is the best for stability is there anything else i should note?

i have killed my ship twice and now have 12k so i gotta safely mine other resources till i can get enough money back to buy a lancet though

[urban flame]

you need a lancet

i use all passives with torrents and focus but people use surge, stampede and lifeline for actives

[outer sapphire]

so is it a known bug that laranite cant be sold anywhere or is it just me?

using websites n shit to find a spot and none buys it 😐

[tight steeple]

man thanks for the heads up. I saw the huge difference between Helix and Lancet. My first try was with a Helix and went to hell with helix. After your suggestion I was able to crack all <6k rocks and farm a lot of quant, so far since yesterday 9 works in the refinery. Pretty top!!! Now i can buy my andromeda back in a blink of an eye. 😄 Cheers mate.

[worthy bough]

Roc?

[north oyster]

I would recommend the Prospector first. It is solo, cheaper entry price than MOLE and you can average 200-275K aUEC per trip

[topaz drum]

Greycat - Remote Ore Collector (ROC) .. it's a mining "car" you drive around and mine rocks with; great fun, great profit, very cheap in game

[grand furnace]

is overcharge common with mining

[crimson mantle]

Not if you are careful 😄

[lusty willow]

@topaz drum so could I make more with a ROC & Cutty than doing VHRT bounties?

currently I am doing HRT's and getting say about 40K for 1/2 hour will mining with ROC be better?

[pulsar spoke]

Any recommendation for a first hauling ship? Atm i mine using a prospector, and haul with a Cutlass black. However, often I can't fit 2 orders in my cutlass, so i'm looking a bigger one.

I'm looking at 3 ships; the C2, the Caterpillar and the Taurus.

**C2 **would be nice because of it's slightly larger cargohold compared to the Caterpillar. Would be ideal for moving vehicles around. (Comes in at 5.2 mil)
**Caterpillar would have my biggest favor, since it has nearly 600 SCU in cargo, but lacks the capability to transfer any significant vehicle (aside from dragonflys). Might chance when modules come, but that still wouldn't allow me to transport a Ballista i think ( don't know how large they are, but I expect them to be bigger than the available space i saw in YT videos). Although I absolutely love the design of the Caterpillar. (Comes in at 4.8 mil)
The Taurus **would be cool as an inbetweener, with 174 SCU and 4 S5 gimballed guns, ideal for also some bounty hunting. (Comes in at 3.2 mil)

[pulsar spoke]

Depends on luck I'd say

[coarse cape]

Taurus is a pretty solid starting ship to transport refinery orders until you get more cash for like a c2. Also Taurus is 4xs4 gimballed guns and two of them can become fixed s5

[pulsar spoke]

Ah, might've misread

It's just that theres a pretty small gap between a Taurus and a Caterpillar

shouldn't take that long to get to 1.6mil

[coarse cape]

Yeah you could get a cat and load more up

Really just preference between Taurus and cat

[pulsar spoke]

But than again.. in a Taurus, i might get to 4.8mil faster (I don't care too much for the C2)

If i'm having unlucky days with mining,, i could still get profits hauling in the taurus

[coarse cape]

Plus you can do bounties in a Taurus so

[uncut grotto]

Any recommendation for what mining ship(s) I should use for my Anvil Liberator mining operations in the future when it's released?
The prospector can be spawned on the ship itself, which the MOLE can't. But the MOLE does fit on the Anvil Liberator and is more efficient and has 3 lasers. Which would gain more money?
(1 mole vs 2 prospectors)
I thought I'd ask this now so I could set up a proper fleet in advance.
NOTE: We will have a total crew of 5-7 people.

[pulsar spoke]

That's a nice crew 🙂 i'm only playing for 2 weeks, so my feedback likely isn't worth that much here

but I think i would prefer spawnable prosps instead of the mole

i rarely find any rock that requires an actual mole to break them, i think i would rather have my team mates split up and find a suitable rock, and team up if needed to break it

given that the liberator doesn't have its own refinery for as far i know (think that's preserved for industrial capitals?).. you'd have to race back eitherway to a space station

[uncut grotto]

Yeah, it also really depends on what they decide to do with the landing pads. They talked about it in the ship talk and the current design has 2xS and 1xXS
I'm not sure how they will do honestly. They're still messing with the size of the Liberator, so my decision will most likely be made when the 3D part is done to 100%.

[uncut grotto]

Hmm, yeah. 2 or 3 Prospectors would probably be more efficient.

Since the repairing equipment, ammo and fuel is stored in the 400SCU of cargo space, I could sacrifice less space if I used the prospector since it's repairs, ammo and fuel costs are way lower. That's what I would guess anyways?
And if one would be destroyed we could just respawn it.

Which would be impossible with the MOLE.

[pulsar spoke]

I mean.. i've teamed up 2 or 3 times with a mole atm.. and while i dig its design.. it flys like an actual brick, and while the search it's going on.. it's pretty boring tbh, nothing the others could do

i think 2 or 3 prosps is just a lot more fun

[uncut grotto]

I can't wait to see how slow the Anvil Liberator will be in terms of turn speed...

[uncut grotto]

Yeah, I think so too!

[pulsar spoke]

I mean, i'm not entirely sure if your assumptions are correct

https://starcitizen.tools/Liberator#Weaponry-a38f05 from reading this, it's more like a vehicle garage, not perse a vehicle retrieval terminal

[uncut grotto]

Hmm...

Let me check rq.

[pulsar spoke]

and the liberator can't refuel, repair or anything

[uncut grotto]

Actually, it will, but on a much lower level.

[pulsar spoke]

Oh, it says it lacks that functionality

but perhaps they mean long-term operations with that

[uncut grotto]

Imma send the Q&A.

Why can't I find it...

There we go.

"The Liberator will only support basic levels of refueling, repairing, and rearming, which will be done manually by players onboard using supplies stored in the cargo bay. It does not have dedicated facilities or separate stores. "

[pulsar spoke]

aaah check

so it's not officially supported by the ship itself, but the game mechanics allows to manually do so

[uncut grotto]

Yeah.

Well, I think I got my answer!

Thanks.

[pulsar spoke]

Ya, same 😂

[thin escarp]

@pulsar spoke c2 is great. Taurus is perfect for prospector runs. can't recommend cat rn it's borked

[pulsar spoke]

just bought the taurus 10secs ago 🙂 Atm double checking my current ship doesn't have cargo left

[thin escarp]

@uncut grotto mole can outperform 2 prospectors. I average close to 700k every 30-35 mins

@pulsar spoke haha solid choice.

I use the c2 but I run moles. I can fit like 10 mole runs ish

before I had the c2 I rocked the taurus

[pulsar spoke]

I dislike that C2, idk why... it's too.. smooth 😛

I like the heavily industrial look on the caterpillar

[thin escarp]

they give us small ass hangers on area 18 so she's a lil beefy

sometimes

I just like selling off 6 mil quant at a time ha

[pulsar spoke]

In all honestly

I'm a noob

and I would never risk an entire cargo hold full of quant in this stage

let a lone the 174 SCU that the Taurus already takes

The C2 is pretty end game atm for me, no money to haul such quantities

[thin escarp]

@uncut grotto the mole works better with a scout. generally I run a 4 man team. 2 lasers and a scout. scout ina fast ship can cover way more ground. you essentially end up jumping from rock to rock back to refinery. that's why I average 1.3-1.4 mil an hr

[uncut grotto]

Alright!

[long wing]

How do I sell the ore that I mine with an roc, its not showing on the terminal

I need to put it on a pad dont I

[thin escarp]

@long wing I always sell at the mining stations on the moon I mine

it cannot be in ur ship

[topaz drum]

Taurus is one of the best ships, it's Pledge-worthy for sure

[pulsar spoke]

Not entirely true, I'm always capable of selling from the ROC while it's inside my Cutlass Black

[thin escarp]

mustve been fixed in 3.16 I haven't rocked mined recently

[long wing]

Can a roc go into a cave?

[pliant matrix]

I'm trying roc mining again. Are hadanite on all moons or there are only some on specific moons?

[mental granite]

Aberdeen sounds to be teh spot, but you need a hot suit

[grand furnace]

how much profit does a crew get in a mole as opposed to a single guy doing prospector ?

[pliant matrix]

was on Ita. nice temp but didn't found a single hada nod so far

[subtle cradle]

You can mine Aberdeen without a Pembroke. Just need to go back to your ship after 10 min.

[pliant matrix]

arf gotta go back on another station to get my suit... this inventory system sometimes sucks

[pliant matrix]

Yeah I'll prolly do that

[thin escarp]

@pliant matrix arial and aberdeen have the most hadanite nodes

you gotta fly pretty low and quick to find the gems now

[pliant matrix]

Yeah noticed. also what bother me the most is extraction laser being messy sometimes making gems fly away xD

also been there for almost an hour now and only filled 1/4 of ROC. They really gotta fix this scan

[pliant matrix]

finally some luck 😁

[thin escarp]

yeah its def harder now than it used to be

[pliant matrix]

no fcking way... black screen back to main menu

back on the same server but no marker for my ship or Roc. How to lose almost 2hours

[long wing]

Is better to fly your roc or drive it around?

[pliant matrix]

Fly it. Nods are really far from each others

[round vapor]

Fellow citizens! I have the great cat ROC. What is a good place to try mining?

[bronze pier]

Aberdeen with the good suit

[unkempt fossil]

what's the cheapest mining ship?

[worthy scroll]

Prospector. The only other mining ship right now is the Mole.

[polar flame]

i kinda gave up on quant mining for a bit due to running across so many rocks that I couldnt scan. Has that been addressed in any of the patches?

[sterile bough]

Its hit or miss for me too, but Im still grinding!

[halcyon brook]

Is it possible to sell equipment somewhere?

[worthy scroll]

Other than trade commodities (and holiday gifts, but those are gone now), not currently. It's something that's coming later.

[halcyon brook]

Ok thanks

[mental granite]

Guys help, I rented a Prospector and the ping isnt working 😦

im pressing teh button its just not doing anything

[grand furnace]

what’s the rental for

[mental granite]

to mine

everything else works, i can enter scan mode, mine mode, just cant ping

[mental granite]

relaunching fixed it i guess

[past finch]

if i have a ROC where is a good place for mining?

and do i need to upgrade the mining heads or anything?

[worthy scroll]

Man, I bought a Cat on the PTU to finally get in one now that they're working again. Definitely want to own one of those now, it's a sweet ship. Slow as molasses though. But it was really nice being able to buy and sell full loads of laranite. 300k per run.

[thin escarp]

@polar flame no ghost rocks on moons

[analog field]

Divi any of the desert planets have hadanite, and you can't upgrade the roc yet

[past finch]

what is the symbol for hadanite and is it easy to find?

[thin escarp]

@mental granite not gonna be able to mine anything good with the rental

[thin escarp]

@hot trail you're probably gonna wanna delete that

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-ban-syntheticllama-gif-21044291

[marble crater]

Org Invitation?! Somebody ban this guy now!

[thin escarp]

LOOL

[marble crater]

lol I actually don't care just enjoy some drama

[bright star]

[near pilot]

refinery pickup work i have load it to cutty ship but the cutty hold is empty???

[analog field]

It's visual, if you loaded it should be there boxes or no

[near pilot]

no boxes in hold but try went to huston and sold it. but no visual box

[mental granite]

Can't wait for that cargo rework

[analog field]

Same here!

[lusty willow]

Good day all, will it be more beneficial to use a freelancer over the cutty for ROC mining?

[marble crater]

only if it's the Freelancer Max. It's very glitchy/buggy loading the ROC into the regular Freelancer. CLips onto the hydraulic struts

[lusty willow]

So basically same as cutty oh well will stick with the cutty then

[analog field]

What probs are ya having getting it into the cutty?

[lusty willow]

No the cutty just feels very unstable at 500m altitude nose keeps on dipping so I constantly have to strafe up

[distant wagon]

fly it upside down and nose wont dip ;p

[analog field]

^^

Sounds dumb but it works

[lusty willow]

Another question, I see a lot of videos where people fly 3rd person and can move their camera around without moving the ship, how is that done?

[distant wagon]

works great for when im being lazy

[analog field]

Hold Z

Be warned of you let off it'll move your ship, takes getting used to

[lusty willow]

Upside down you say lol OK will give it a try, also how do I set scan to 180 deg forwatds?

[distant wagon]

for me its > key

[lusty willow]

Just want use it for landing so I can see if I am aligned right

Specially with uneven terrain the cutty is a pain had it yesterday where the ramp simply would not close for whatever reason

[distant wagon]

have had that many times yes

[analog field]

I always open the dumb thing from the cockpit to make sure

[lusty willow]

Yesterday on Daymar had a guy fire at me as soon as I wanted to start mining lol, the moment I stop mining he would back off 😫