industrial-professions

[north oyster]

9-Tails is good coin for med supplies if you have a C2

[blissful rain]

Cool

But need a big investment first

1.2mn

1.2m

I have m2 and c2 as loaners

[north oyster]

yeah, right at 1.1 M, but you end up making about a mil above that in return and bonus

[blissful rain]

Nice

U tried it?

[north oyster]

I made about 3M the past couple of events

[blissful rain]

Lovely

Could i buy med supplies now , fill up the c2 and just store the ship until NT starts?

And then get first run done

?

[north oyster]

yeah, that's pretty much it. Now the refresh for buying the meds may take about 5 minutes and then the refresh to sell the meds at the Admin office may take as long. Be sure to accept the quest for med supplies and you have the audio confirmation from the controller that you have that quest. If it doesn't show up when you go to sell, you may need to drop the quest and then pick it back up. I had to do that once

I only did one run per 9T event and that was enough for me

You can squeeze two or three runs if you start early enough. I just didn't want to get caught with "we have enough" and that end while I have a mill tied up in the cargo.

You will want to go to Hicks on Celin or Deakins on Yela to get the supplies

I did have to pay a troll toll from an Ion that arrived after I had loaded up in order to take off from Deakins. I had escaped it once earlier but thought I'd contribute to his effort (was about 50K aUEC)

[quiet night]

Just delivered 500k worth of quant from my mining yesterday, I was lucky with the rocks yesterday

[blissful rain]

Quality

[blissful rain]

So med pens u can buy anytime outside of the event?

[north oyster]

Med supplies

Not pens

[north oyster]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Medical Supplies

[obsidian stone]

Scrap is is still screwed, correct?

[north oyster]

Yes, stay away from scrap for awhile

[obsidian stone]

These single leg runs are getting tedious.

[north oyster]

Can't always capitalize on earnings on every run. For now, it is mainly a single leg earning run (sadly)

[loud mural]

what are you calling single leg run ? putting everything on 1 only ressource ?

[quiet night]

Point a to b single leg, instead of a to b to c as a multiple leg at a guess

[loud mural]

ohh

yeah it's always like that since there is going to be supply issues in the b point

[flint ridge]

any tips for someone that might want to get into the trade game?
I dont have much aUEC at the moment but do have a MSR

[obsidian stone]

Unauthorized Surveillance Missions to raise capital.

[loud mural]

if you don't have much money at first i'd tell you to do deliveries and grab some cargo at the same time

[twin sand]

If you have to do a char reset do you lose all your refinery orders?

[loud mural]

Yep

[thin escarp]

@flint ridge trading is very sus and borked

@twin sand no you do not lose your refinery orders

its seperate.

[analog field]

Managed to get my rented roc impounded AFTER storing it, 4k to rent 5k parking fine lol

[grand furnace]

roc is bugged

I see what they mean now when the scanner is busted with the roc

[rose root]

It's not bugged. Low to the ground and only go for pings under 1km

Takes about 10min to get used too. Hardest part is scooping the minerals up, keep that laser straight and work your way in on the pile from the outside slowly

[grand furnace]

I did the scanner got to full scan of rock and nothing further

[analog field]

I'm having zero problems with it

You just ignore the poi that turn into rocks at 5k. And yes can't scoop fast

Seems even the crap gems pay decently dolv made me 5k per node ish

[real iron]

Are there any issues with cargo hauling?

[rose root]

If you're hauling anything else but Laranite, no

[fossil glen]

Anyone need one for some mining?

[sage basin]

so, good commodity routes for a cutlass black?

price limit of about 40k starting

[rose root]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

Take a look 🙂

[hot marlin]

Does anybody know the max amount of money you could make trading with the Argo raft rn?

[bold yew]

So I am learning to trade and I used sc-trade.tools to find a a route:
Buy: Stanton > Crusader > Daymar > Nuen Waste Management

Altruciatoxin and sell it at Grimm

Is this just out of date, Nuen Waste Management does not seem to be working even seeing my ship.

[distant wagon]

the outposts without a landing pad are not registering ships atm i believe so you cannot trade there

[bold yew]

Thank ya 🙂

Is there a way to check what areas do or do not have a landing pad, or is it just something you figure out?

[distant wagon]

not sure where to find that info

[bold yew]

There might be a pattern. If name has Waste Managment, maybe it always does not have a pad.

[distant wagon]

that is most likely true

[thin escarp]

all mining facilities have pads

HDMS has pads

@bold yew i wouldnt trust sc trade tools

and never buy drugs

shits hella buggy

[main grove]

I don't understand Quant mining. IF you only have 14min to deposit it after collecting. This sounds to me like I can only find it in one rock then have to take it to the refinery. I can't collect, look for another rock get a bit more, find another rock, collect and when Im full go to the refinery

[tawny stump]

Yeah, you don't collect the rocks as you break them

You go and find multiple outcrops

Break them all

And then collect them all in one go

[main grove]

But how do you remember the locations

[shrewd kayak]

A good way to mark stuff is taking a package mission and just dropping the box next to the thing you wanna come back to.

[urban flame]

You just fly around until you find one or two rocks next to eachother capable of completely filling your cargo in one go

[main grove]

Thanks. Can the Helix do Quantuanium or do I have to have the Lancet

[glacial dagger]

Helix can indeed, but the Lancet is way more stable

[distant wagon]

most guides i read say use the lancet, im using a hofstede atm and have no issues with Quant if under 5000 mass

[glacial dagger]

Lancet gives, you more stability and optimal green zone. WIth the right modules, you can also go above 5000 mass and still be able to crack jsut fine

[distant wagon]

the lancet can crack over 5k rocks with the lower power output?

[glacial dagger]

With the right modules, yes

[blissful rain]

Someone pin this!

[glacial dagger]

It's exactly what I do for my quant runs as well 😄

[distant wagon]

here is a map to the halo from the refinerys http://www.cloudsong.io/application/files/1716/1082/7995/3.12-LIVE-Rel1-Refinery_Stations_to_Aaron_Halo_Mining_Routes.pdf

[crimson oak]

I use Arc-L1 to Hur-L5 and drop out of warp 8.7m km

[humble magnet]

All about the halo mining: https://cornerstonebase.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

@distant wagon @distant wagon for a circa 7000 mass rock : you add the Surge module to your Helix and hit it after you load 25- 30% of the bar . That would make it jump straight into the green, all you have to do is maintain it in the green until cracks. You could also use a Stampede module to accelerate the positive green loading.

[grand furnace]

is my roc working I get to full scan but then nothing, where do I look to see the rock makeup in the roc

[glacial dagger]

Try using your mining laser, and make sure your looking either right at it, or have both laser and sights on the rock

It can be a little...buggy

[grand furnace]

ok

[loud mural]

Just go with 3 fltr xl and crash your ship dude

[grand furnace]

will try the roc again today

[real iron]

what is the best rentable cargo hauling ship in the game rn?

[glacial dagger]

Connie Andromeda at 96SCU

[real iron]

is cargo hauling still profitable tho?

[glacial dagger]

I have a 120k profit run with my C2, so yes, defo profitable

[near pilot]

How much Lancet head cost and where is shop that sale it?

[glacial dagger]

Check Cornerstone, it can tell you where everything is sold and for how much

[loud mural]

@glacial dagger the taurus is cheaper and better

[split falcon]

what’s the run?

[crimson mantle]

@split falcon
It's usually Titanium with the leftover laranite you can scoop up
https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522C2%2520Hercules%2522,%2522investment%2522:1000000,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:15000%257D

Fluorine is not as profitable, but it's always there 🙂

[split falcon]

i’ve been sort of running that but i can’t find a good drop off

all the planets are slow but MT and i don’t reckon they’ll buy it

[crimson mantle]

MT and Loreville buy the most

but loreville is the closest, so heavy traffic there for sure

[split falcon]

so ariel/wala to MT/Lorville

[glacial dagger]

Bro, you cant beat 696SCU of storage

[glacial dagger]

I'm not divulging my best routes, nice try 😄

[split falcon]

right..

[glacial dagger]

And no, it's not the route mentioned above, although it can be pretty good

Mine is a route I'm not sure many people have found, and I intend to keep it that way

[real iron]

arcorp has good routes

for laranite and agricium

[glacial dagger]

This is true

[split falcon]

i guess i gotta experiment to find this mystery commodity/route

[glacial dagger]

Go for it, that's how I find most of my routes

Yes, I trawled through and copied a lot of data from SC Trade Tools and Gallog, but I'm also updating it for myself as well

[split falcon]

i’m just waiting on the terminals on a lot of outposts to not be broken

i had a few routes lined up and then boom broken terminal

[glacial dagger]

Yh, broken terminals are kinda messing me up as well. Havn't been able to get a full range of data for them as they cant really be accessed

Yes, I could try and hunt through the game data, but I really dont have the patience for that kinda stuff

[split falcon]

eh time better spent on a mediocre route at that point

trading is not what it used to be which is a shame, hoping it will get its well deserved update soon

[glacial dagger]

Sometimes. Or if I dont feel like running cargo, I make my own with mining the Halo

Trading is still a lot better than it was a few patches back. Nothing was updating correctly

[split falcon]

i left from 3.12 and came back now so it’s a stark change

i try do mining but since i have no funds the rented prospector sucks

[glacial dagger]

Oh wow, yh, that's gonna have a little bit of change. I brought a guy back in from 3.9, he couldn't believe his eyes when I showed him how good cargo is now compared to back then

[split falcon]

still on a hunt for a route that will not be boring though haha, keep me posted if you find a decent one other than laranite or titanium that you are willing to share

[glacial dagger]

Hmm, perhaps. Will I get a finders fee?

[split falcon]

if that’s the price it takes

[glacial dagger]

In which case I already have a few good routes I might be able to share

[split falcon]

hahaha only if you’re willing too

[knotty trail]

So I tried renting the prospector from hurston (iirc) but I dont see it for rent I was trynna test out mining but i've checl area 18 and hurston (I believe the diff rent computer company was supposed to show it am i doing something wrong)

[split falcon]

cargo decks have em

[crimson oak]

try refinery stations

[ruby moth]

Refinery decks and Cargo stations

[glacial dagger]

All the -L1s have them, as their the refinary stations

[glacial dagger]

Gonna have to meet up in game for that though

[ruby moth]

and HUR-L2 as well

[glacial dagger]

yh, Hurston at two refinery decks, the lucky sods 😄

[knotty trail]

I only had the hornet and an andromeda briefly so i wasnt able to touch on mining a lot and i barely did cargo as it was real buggy when i tried a few patches ago

Cool I heard refineries but I'm trynna get the details down I'm so behind

[split falcon]

eh i might be a while then, if i remember in a couple days i’ll pop you a dm

got some irl commitments going on currently

[glacial dagger]

I could bring you along for some mining at some point, if your up for learning more about it

[glacial dagger]

Ah, fair, no worries then

[split falcon]

group minings always the best mining haha

[glacial dagger]

Oh, for sure

Getting three moles into the belt is always a laugh

[split falcon]

haha you do proper group mining then, for me it’s 3 of us 2 in a mole and 1 scouting

[glacial dagger]

I'm talking about our org mining event's. We get moles, prospectors and scouts/escorts all in the halo together.

[split falcon]

sounds pretty awesome

[glacial dagger]

You can also cut some time off the waiting time by keeping the owners of the ships at the station and as soon as their ship has landed they can store it

[knotty trail]

Hell yeah I'd appreciate it, I am west coast with shitty internet (when I'm home at work my net is ok if the VPN is playing nice). I got a taste with Klescher (first time doin prison stuff pretty cool)

[split falcon]

how do you guys split the pay if you’re doing such a large op

[glacial dagger]

For mining, I take the number of crew, add an extra for ship maintenence, and then divy out accordingly

so a three man crew, the selling amount gets split in 4, each crew gets their quarter, and the owner of the ship gets a quarter for ship maintenence

Scales pretty well for larger ships as well

[split falcon]

ah yeah fair enough, decent system. ours is a lot less refined haha

[glacial dagger]

For cargo, I do it a little differently though, as I'm the one putting in the capital, so it's more like take crew number, add 5, everyone gets their fraction, rest goes to me

[split falcon]

we do, start of taking the refinery costs of the total, 10% of the total goes to the finder of the rock so most likely the scout. then split 3 ways

[glacial dagger]

Because I use the super long but sure pure refinment, my costs are never over 10k, so it becomes a part of the ship costs

If I'm hiring a scout, it's 50k for a quant rock +30% that we ende up cracking, 20k for 25%-30%, and nothing for less than 25%

[split falcon]

ah the scout in our crew is also a miner he just jumps back in the ship when we find the rock for any confusion

not a lot of miners in the org i’m in most do bounties so it’s pretty tight

[glacial dagger]

I like to keep them separate, as it avoids having to wait for them to get out

[split falcon]

ah yeah i bet, even slower since we do surface mining but it’s a good time

your org focused more or less on mining?

[glacial dagger]

I tend to stick to the belt between CRU-L1 and ARC-L3

And we have fingers in all the pies, medical, combat, mining, cargo, soon to be exploration and cyber

[loud mural]

I don't do quantanium I find it too risky for a prospector

I focus on titanium and borase near hur l1

Sometimes diamonds

Damn I wanna buy 3 fltr xls but idk if it's a good idea

[topaz coyote]

You're missing out on a LOT of money Sir!! I have prospector and only mine quant with it. Risk is low once you figure it out. EDIT: unless money isn't you're focus - then have fun!! but my last "quant sell day" paid me 2.8M. Got another 2.1M sitting in my C2 right now...

[crimson oak]

yeah quant is pretty much zero risk

id never waste my time with titanium or borase

[near pilot]

where to buy Lancet mining head? I try number of place and it not there, Lorville, HUR-L2, CRU-L1 dont have it

[urban flame]

Ive never blown a quant rock, dunno what issue is

[topaz drum]

ARC L1 has it.. make sure you mouse-wheel scroll on the tabs at the clothing terminal. .Utility is the last tab, doesn't show by default (is off the right side of screen)

[near pilot]

first time i hear of it, I give that a try

[topaz drum]

Pretty sure all those places have it, whatever your close to.. just make sure to scroll the tabs

[near pilot]

I never look at clothing terminal cause thought it just for clothing

I was looking at 3 display mining head

[crimson oak]

yeah mouse over the tabs and right click and then mousewheel, the last tab is hidden, the one for mining stuff.

[near pilot]

thanks and other question is how to fit it in ship?

[quiet night]

Open your mobi up, second one from left looks like a little plane/ship that’s your vehicle loadout manager

[near pilot]

if i crash or ship blow up I have to buy head again?

[dusky zealot]

it's a consumable so probably

[near pilot]

great, what about modules which one to buy?

[patent tiger]

yo i could use gunners

[topaz drum]

Mining heads won't lose if you blow up; only the Consumables/Modules

for quant mining (everyone has their opinion).. I do: Lancet + Brandt (use once in green zone to stablize power), and for big rocks Surge (to get to green zone) and then Stampede (to get through green before the surge power wears off)

[near pilot]

thanks what about passive modules?

[topaz coyote]

Torrent and Focus are the most commonly used ones... but it's up to you really

[topaz drum]

Passives are handy, as you don't have to interact to activate them; But they are much more expensive, and much less powerful; Example: Torrent III only adds 4% power but runs all the time, but a Surge adds 125% for only 90 secs .. different math, but you get the point

[near pilot]

yeah am doing passive first to get use on how to do it, first time trying them out

[topaz drum]

The filters are nice, less inert pick up; but, that's most useful on a Mole where yoiu can have different lasers setup for breaking vs collecting; you only get 3 modules on a Prospector, so choose wisely

passive there is no "use it", so you won't get "practice".. it just runs once you equip it

actives you use Alt+1/2/3 to "fire" them, and those you need to practice the timing, etc

[near pilot]

thanks

[patent tiger]

yo anyone wanna turret for me

i need some crew

[loud mirage]

anyone here that can help me out I want to do cargo running but I want to be able to buy and sell stuff in one go but cant seem to figure out how to find this in sc trade tools

[topaz drum]

cargo is dependant upon/across all servers, and changes in realtime.. so there's no website that can tell you "go here" to get a full load.. it will always vary

[thin escarp]

@split falcon i made my own website to help equal out the pay. everyone gets a EQUAL cut on my moles but the owner gets 5% to cover overhead. aswell as whatever the refinery cost gets taken out. Kinda had to make the site, every saturday i run massive scale mining operations 35-45 players.

[hushed hazel]

That’s very interesting. Is it publicly available or do you only use it for yourself?

[analog field]

That sounds nuts cross

[analog field]

Thought you were supposed to get your ship back after a 30k crash

[crimson mantle]

You have to wait for the server heartbeat to restore it: usually ~ 10 mins

If you claim in the meantime, you are done

[analog field]

Well crap, i had no idea

Oh well not out much

[analog field]

Even though it's a new cutty the one engine is still fucked

After 4 reclaims

[worthy scroll]

Yeah one of the engines on my Raft has been screwed since the beginning. Ship still works though.

[dry panther]

How do you know if a trading terminal isn’t buying your item due to inventory VS being glitched? Is there a timer that should be displayed. I’m at CRU-L5 selling scrap and I just hopped servers and getting stuck on the same screen where i should have the slider to select my amount to sell

[grand furnace]

any way to be sure boxes will not bug in the ground ?

[vocal lava]

Does anyone have the Confiscating contraband mission i will give u a cut of what we make out of it

me and my friend need it so we can get the location to make runs back and forth

[dry panther]

Is scrap hauling Bugged

[vocal lava]

yea

[dry panther]

This game has not been very nice to me for the last week! The worst luck at everything i try to do

[grand furnace]

is it worth it to rent a prospector

[fossil glen]

Why is my charge level bar not moving up when my laser is going?

Like I can go to 100% intensity and it stays at 0 level charge

[grand furnace]

bug

[fossil glen]

I’m re logging rn

That will more than likely fix it right? @grand furnace

[analog field]

Could be a bugged rock and mtim it'll pay for itself in like two loads

One of you get lucky

[odd snow]

If you know what you’re doing then yes. If you don’t, then learn the ropes either FPS mining or in a ROC.

[fossil glen]

I had a 45% quant rock :((((

[odd snow]

Find it again

😉

[fossil glen]

Had to re log

[grand furnace]

you know roc is bugged

well obviously you should say what is not bugged to be fair

I tried the roc earlier and charge level did not move so obviously that is bugged - is there any way to fix that without going back to the menu ?

[odd snow]

Oh I don’t know. Haven’t roc mined in a long time. You understand the concept tho? The mechanics of breaking a rock and energy levels, etc?

[grand furnace]

I would if it worked.

yeh u have to move ur mouse wheel up n down to keep the bar in the green area until the rock breaks

[odd snow]

@grand furnace You can roll with me if you want. I’m fixing to head out of ARC-L1.

[grand furnace]

2 am now will be playing again later

[fossil glen]

What is with this game bru….

Find some quant and can’t scan it

[glacial dagger]

There are occasionally dead rocks, sorry bud

[odd snow]

Fly away and come back.

Then try again.

Some of them I have to get close to. Less than 200m.

[half grotto]

What's the rough time between medical supply refreshes? 6-7 minutes?

[grand furnace]

any way to prevent box bugs ?

[solar trail]

anyone know what to do if some of your quant chunks sit under the map like this?

[worthy scroll]

Move on to the next one.

[solar trail]

[worthy scroll]

We all learn how to play around the alpha bugs.

[analog field]

Note bed logging still seems busted, infinite load screen

Or just boots me back to home base

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, that's something I wouldn't really touch until they say it's verified fixed.

[rose tangle]

Is scrap still broken?

[worthy scroll]

Yes.

[rose tangle]

Thanks, just wanted to double check before I did this trade route.

[thin escarp]

@fossil glen lyria doesnt have ghost rocks

only ghost rocks in space

[fossil glen]

What?

[thin escarp]

yeah in space

ghost rocks

they dont scan

lyria doesnt have ghost rocks

[fossil glen]

I wasn’t on Lyria

[thin escarp]

yea im telling you

dont mine in space

[fossil glen]

Ight

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[thin escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/i-gotchu-gif-22729913

i can send you my mining guide if you'd like

has lots of tips tricks how toos where toos and bug fixes

@fossil glen

[fossil glen]

Send it over

[thin escarp]

@fossil glen sent

[solar trail]

finally

[devout thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/titanfall-titanfall2-spicy-chef-boi-gif-18617702

[dire salmon]

Looking for somone to help mine in a mole

[solar trail]

[worldly ledge]

hey guys, ive got an XL-1 QD on my ship but finding the cooldown and other times quite long, is there a better alternative ?

actually more like the cooldown and then calibration quite long

[crimson oak]

fairly sure its actually the fastest

you're best checking erkul.games tho for detailed stats and comparison

[worthy scroll]

There are some on moons, I've found several on Daymar.

[grand furnace]

can you get more reliablilty in the prospector than the roc

[pallid temple]

Yes

[urban flame]

if its upgraded

i'd say rental roc > rental prospector

[grand furnace]

could not find any gems with the roc quite fiddly

[pallid temple]

Its a lot harder to find ROC rocks ever since the radar and scanning changes

[grand furnace]

gonna continue with jobs then for the moment

[real iron]

never doing cargo hauling again

ship just exploded with 400k cargo

[grand furnace]

lol

[crimson oak]

happens now and again, I had 1.2m worth of medical supplies for the event, when I was docking into the destination station, my ship just barely nudged the side of the hangar and suddenly exploded. Just a tiny nudge... the game can be super weird sometimes.

[chrome jay]

cargo haulers, when running into trade locations with no landing area and your ship doesn't get detected how d you fix that ?

[urban flame]

It's easy to find hadanite you just need to fly within 1500m of one so fly low and fast over Aberdeen til a diamond pops

[crimson oak]

never had that happen, try and get closer perhaps? or leave the area and go back in again.

[tacit creek]

If anyone is doing ship mining later I'd like to join

[crimson oak]

i might be later, before the next ninetails event

then ill be doing a lot of hauling

[tacit creek]

When roughly? Just so I can be on. I don't have my own ship yet so looking to join the crew

[crimson oak]

do you not have a prospector of your own?

i should be free about 30mins from now, watching an episode of altered carbon at the mo

I work out of Arc-L1 if ya wanna prepare

My ingame name is Setanta if ya wanna add me as a friend

[tacit creek]

I'll be on in about an hour need to go shopping. I'm new to the game so I don't have anything at all yet really

[worthy scroll]

Some places are just bugged and can't be used right now. Only solution is to go somewhere else.

Laranite runs say to sell to the Orphanage, but that's one of the bugged places, so I just sell at my closest major city.

[crimson oak]

alrighty, throw me a message when you're free

[sudden flower]

So I'm hearing I should just keep ROC and hand mining to save for prospector instead of paying to rent it? Depending on luck and how good you are with it. What you guys think?

never used the prospector yet but working on saving up for it. Almost hit my first million

I do a little mercenary and bounty hunting on the side but I wanna get into mining

[crimson oak]

prospector is definitely a great tool to have, great income and can be quite relaxing

[sudden flower]

Refining sounds cool too

[tardy fox]

i just bought one there, @crimson oak let me know when you guys are heading out i might join to learn if thats kool

[sudden flower]

Wonder if I should rent it for a day just to learn how it works even if I just break even for the rental

[crimson oak]

yeah no harm getting a rental just to see how it goes

though be advised the default mining head on the rental is pretty bad, it limits what you'll be able to mine

[tacit creek]

What kind of investment do you need go start quant mining solo

[worthy scroll]

Just remember that you also need a cargo ship of some capacity for mining, so you can also sell your refined products.

[tardy fox]

rent a freelancer?

[worthy scroll]

Yep, something like that. Or a Cutty Black, might be cheaper.

But you can stockpile refined goods for a while, then rent a ship once and make however many trips you need to sell it all.

[urban flame]

i rented a connie

[worthy scroll]

That'll do it

[tardy fox]

is it normal to take like 45 mins to find a quant rock in the belt

or am i doing something wrong...

[crimson oak]

just a prospector, lancet mining head and ideally consumables like surge and stampede.

[crimson oak]

that can happen, rarely though, depending where you're looking

[sudden flower]

My starter ship, which is my only ship so far, is a nomad. Its got 24 slots of storage. Not huge but something

wish they showed you stats on things in the stores. Makes you have to google everything

like the mining heads and weapons and stuff

[urban flame]

i used passives on my pros

[urban flame]

Go to CRU L1. Set QT to ARC L3. Drop out of QT exactly at 12,500,000 km from ARC L3.

If you drop out 100,000 or 50,000 km's too soon, you won't be in the spot. The asteroids are not as dense if you drop out too early.

[thin escarp]

@sudden flower the rental prospector is beyond useless man def use roc until you can buy

the rental prospector has turned alot of people against mining lolol

I can send you my mining guide if ya would like

[tardy fox]

thanks ill try be more precise

i thought it was a rough guide

[sudden flower]

yea I can check it out. I've watched some other stuff and figured out the basics already.

I been going to Arberdeen and Arial. Arial seemed to have more in each group that I found unless I was just lucky

[crimson oak]

theres lots of helpful info in the pinned comments as well, tho some might be outdated.

[sudden flower]

At first I was getting frustrated why I couldnt find anything till i found out the small stuff doesnt even show up till like 1200m lol

Some videos didnt really cover that. Just said to scan and was like ok heres some. But no details of how haha

[urban flame]

when scanning, you're looking for pings that show up under 2km away

the ones that show up further than 2km are ship sized rocks

then approach the 2km ones and they should show as gems

[sudden flower]

One thing I noticed is my ship scanner doesnt seem to show the type of mineral. Only the mass and stuff

I swear it used to though

maybe I'll stop wasting time on the non hadinite spots. Just read the pinned messages

[urban flame]

it should do once you scan it long enough

[thin escarp]

@sudden flower sent you a fr so I can dm guide

[sudden flower]

got it

[worldly ledge]

@sudden flower get a heat suit from the refinery and go to aberdeen for hadenite, i mined tonnes there.... set speed to 300 at a height of 600 ( aberdeen has an extra 1000 on height so probably anywhere between 1300 and 1600) then multiple rocks are worth checking... fly right up to them use F key and scroll wheel to zoom into rocks and see what colour... if pink then good to go.

@sudden flower

[tardy fox]

sounds like fun

wamma try this quant for a bit to check it out

[worldly ledge]

@sudden flower also Daymar

Aberdeen

[topaz coyote]

for anyone who thinks Quant is too risky (it's not) - here's screenshot... EDIT: it's worth it.. 😉

[glacial dagger]

Quant is almost always worth it, especially when refining it

[worldly ledge]

I have 13 work orders in at the moment 😁

Mostly 3199

Been grinding

[tardy fox]

nice

[gentle ibex]

would you recommend renting a prospector and grind the credits to buy the prospector ?

or better to ROC + rent cutty until you get enough credits ?

[tardy fox]

from above: the rental prospector is beyond useless man def use roc until you can buy
the rental prospector has turned alot of people against mining lolol

[sudden flower]

Yea I was wondering the same thing earlier lol

Probably just gonna rent another roc and get to work...after work lol

the rental on the roc is so cheap, you would have to rent it many times before it reaches the price of buying one. Even though the price of buying one isnt bad. I'm tempted to buy it anyway

just so I dont have to go to a refinery to rent

[crimson oak]

better to do bounty missions tbh

[tardy fox]

i rented a freelance and did some jumptowns over few days had enough for the prosp then

you can make a mil per event with right group/time/server

[grand furnace]

yeh anything rental you cannot change any of the components

[wraith tusk]

Microtech moons or lyria better for mole mining quantanium with a crew of 3 ?

[glacial dagger]

if your able to rock a 3-4 crew in a mole, Lyria is the better of the two. i personally still prefer mining in the belt though

[worldly ledge]

bit of advise regarding the ROC, after a couple of runs you might find that it dies, battery or heat or something... happened a few times to me until i realised that you can just leave it by the place you sell the gems at and then claim it back at he vehicle pad which makes a copy that is all fresh and new ready to go.... don't get freaked out by the sudden red triangle from the old ROC though.... i thought it was a pirate the first time lol

[distant wagon]

its the coolers that go bad after a time, you can check on them by looking at the power screen

[worldly ledge]

and also i eded up buy a ROC as its so much easier than having muliple expired rentals in the list .... plus you can upgrade the cooling if you buy one

*ended up buying

look at all dat chedder

[distant wagon]

is that all underground

?

[worldly ledge]

no

[distant wagon]

hope you can find it again, thats several trips

[worldly ledge]

i had something like that once though, i thought i'd won the lottery.... there were literally millions of gem symbols everywhere but none were collectable

i'm Quantanium mining now, almost ready to buy a mole

[tacit creek]

Sorry I took so long. You still up to mine?

[crimson oak]

im focusing on the NT event now soz

[worldly ledge]

THATS CHEDDAR

[tardy fox]

cheese baby

[worldly ledge]

this was a nice one

mass 4884

[tardy fox]

whats the planet you guys go to, im sick of the belt

[worldly ledge]

instability 7.58

resistance 0.7

46% Quantanium

this one blew me up !

here's a weird one, had this happen the other day

Lyria

[tacit creek]

Alright bet

[worldly ledge]

@tardy fox Lyria

[tardy fox]

thanks man

[worldly ledge]

have you got a prospector ?

[tardy fox]

yes i just bought one today, was out in belt got nothing realy

haha

ill try that planet later

[worldly ledge]

have you upgraded the mining head ?

[tardy fox]

yes i followed the guys earlier who said get the lancet

with surge and stamp

[worldly ledge]

and what modules ?

sorry you were quicker

[tardy fox]

i think my issue was bad scanning

[worldly ledge]

surge stamp and brandt

[tardy fox]

so ill try work on it on that planet

[tacit creek]

If anyone needs someone to join for group mining I'm down

[worldly ledge]

what miner you got snail ?

[tacit creek]

I don't have one, I can help on someone's ship but I'm trying to save money to get my own

[worldly ledge]

what ships do you have ?

[tacit creek]

Cutlass black

[worldly ledge]

@tardy fox btw you dont need to ping for scanning

[tardy fox]

you dont ping?

[worldly ledge]

no

[tardy fox]

i was pinging them and scanning from 3.5 km

[worldly ledge]

i only ping for gems not for rocks

[tardy fox]

ah ok lol

[worldly ledge]

maybe other people do but i just go flat out at 600 high and wait for the internal scanners to pick up double rocks, double rocks are always quantanium and then you can also find massive pools of quant rocks ... maybe 8 or 10 in one spot

@scenic garden do you gem mine ?

[tardy fox]

ok ill try your way

you seem to have good success

thanks my man

[worldly ledge]

I have 14 work orders in at the moment

over 2mil worth

[tacit creek]

How much money do I need to start doing ship mining solo as I'm struggling to find anyone that needs help

[urban flame]

2m

[worldly ledge]

@scenic garden how much money do you have ?

[tacit creek]

370 K

[urban flame]

get roc + cutty black, mine 2m of hadanite, buy prospector

[worldly ledge]

damn... you need just over 2 mil

[tacit creek]

Fuck is that gonna take a while?

[urban flame]

10 ish runs

[worldly ledge]

you can make 150k per run while gem mining

[tacit creek]

That's not too bad then ig 10 runs

That's pretty good

[urban flame]

i thought it was 200k

14 ish runs

[tacit creek]

What planet do I find hadenite on

[urban flame]

aberdeen

[worldly ledge]

ahh yeah i suppose, i never went back with a full hold because i was worried the ROC was going to overheat or die

[tacit creek]

Alright I'll go rent a roc rn and start mining

[worldly ledge]

always went back with 50 not 80

[urban flame]

buy a pembroke armour set for 10k from a refinery near aberdeen first so you dont die from the heat

[tacit creek]

Alright ty

[worldly ledge]

@scenic garden go to Aberdeen

@scenic garden get suit first

@scenic garden buy ROC when can and upgrade coolers

I did

might not be necessary but i did

[grand furnace]

finding gems is quite fiddly

[worldly ledge]

@scenic garden get a heat suit from the refinery and go to aberdeen for hadenite, i mined tonnes there.... set speed to 300 at a height of 600 ( aberdeen has an extra 1000 on height so probably anywhere between 1300 and 1600) then multiple rocks are worth checking... fly right up to them use F key and scroll wheel to zoom into rocks and see what colour... if pink then good to go.

[grand furnace]

I might give the roc another shot today since I have my hot suit stored

[worldly ledge]

also daymar

[grand furnace]

is that what hadenite looks like

[worldly ledge]

yep.... get the pink

[grand furnace]

will it appear on a ping scan ?

[worldly ledge]

yes , keep mashing the tab key as you fly

[grand furnace]

lol

[worldly ledge]

anything below 1200 distance is going to be gems, stop scanning, hit the brakes and turn

@tacit creek you too ^^^^

i didnt bother with dolomine or aphorite i only mined hadenite

ONLY THE PINK

[grand furnace]

I got it wrong as well it is hadanite not with an E

[worldly ledge]

if you say so

[tacit creek]

Okay I shall start this in 15 minutes

[grand furnace]

only correcting myself lol

[tacit creek]

Can I just rent a roc

[worldly ledge]

yes

[tacit creek]

Am I better just renting one until I can build up 2 mil

[grand furnace]

I bought my roc only cost 170k

[topaz drum]

you can rent ROC is same as purchased (not upgradable), renting a Prospector can't be upgraded so you can mine "stuff", but Quant which pays the big bucks; so rent ROC then buy ROC (172k) then mine until you can buy Prospc (2M)

.. ie. don't rent a Prosp, you can't upgrade the lasers

[worthy scroll]

Only rent a Prospector just to see if you want to buy a Prospector.

[jovial atlas]

i just bought the game after alot of tiktok fyp lol, and looking into it cargo is the best afkable money right?

with no real risk

[topaz drum]

there is no AFK-able

[worthy scroll]

AFK money? No, not unless you're talking about the waiting times to buy more stock.

[topaz drum]

walk away, crash.. lose it all

[jovial atlas]

well if you fly instead of jump its afk

[topaz drum]

🥴

it would take hours to fly from a moon to the planet .. that doesn't make sense

[jovial atlas]

i work lol

[worthy scroll]

But it would be AFK gameplay lol.

[topaz drum]

It would be screensaver gameplay lol

[jovial atlas]

and pretty

[worthy scroll]

Point yourself at a moon and watch it very slowly get bigger. That's real gameplay right there.

[topaz drum]

you still have to land to buy and sell.. those parts take 5-10mins.. jumping takes about 2 mins... flying would take who knows.. 120,000km at 1000m/s..

120,000 sec = 20hrs ?

that's some dedication

[jovial atlas]

i wont be doing anything for 8 hours lol

but would i run out of fuel lol

[topaz drum]

no, get up to speed, and go to Decouple mode

[coarse cape]

Just get up to speed and turn off coupled flight lol

[topaz drum]

you'll drift fuel-free at speed

but you might get booted for AFK, so you'd have to move mouse every 10mins or so

[coarse cape]

And when you get into atmo you’ll start to slowly gain fuel

[coarse cape]

Actually if your ship is moving you won’t

[topaz drum]

ah, good to know.. never tried

cuz you know.. i'd just jump

[coarse cape]

Yeah during XT i just put my ship at like 10m/s and went afk for like 2 hours lol

[jovial atlas]

now i wanna see if you get booted for afk drifting lol

then i guess i wont lol

[topaz drum]

you still aren't making money afk tho.. all that travel time doesn't make any money

only the refinery is afk money.. it's "doing something of value" during that time

[jovial atlas]

refinery?

[topaz drum]

when you mine, you can sell the raw ore or refine it and sell refined ore (for double the price)

so, mine quantanium sell for 44/unit, or refine it (wait 10-12 hrs) and sell it for 88/unit

mine before work, work, sell after work

[tardy fox]

got my first quant load, thank @worldly ledge

great help!

[jovial atlas]

how much ore do you find

[worthy scroll]

Depends on the rock.

Some might only have 2% of the ore you want (or is worth getting), some might have 40%. The higher percentage ones are more rare, and more difficult to mine.

[topaz drum]

Rocks range from 3000-8000 mass, 2% to 50% valuable resources; Prices range from 1aUEC/unit to 88aUEC/unit; So any given rock may be worth 1200 aUEC up to 600,000 aUEC

Here is one of my Refinery runs.. 3 loads being refined

Aluminum, Quart, Beryl are 1-2 aUEC/unit

Borase is 44 aUEC/unit, and Quantanium is 88 aUEC/unit

so those 3 loads are 850K+ aUEC once sold

about 10K aUEC is 'stuff', the rest of the money 840K+ is from the Quant

hope that helps show mining

Also, those Time Remaining are real-time hours, so 14-31 real hours to be done

[tardy fox]

guys, is there anyway to send modules from one planet to another

i bought loads of surges but cant get them at ARC-L1

dont want to have to keep travelling to install them, any tips?

[odd snow]

@tardy fox you can move them to a ship inventory and take them over.

take your mole or prospector over, land, hit I, then drag them to the ship, and go to where you want to keep them, and reverse the process.

[bold yew]

I am not sure about hauling / trading this patch. People said go for laranite, but I cant even get enough to fill my freelancer let alone a max.

I guess I could go Titanium, but not sure the profits are worth it then :/

[odd snow]

i thought trading was jacked this patch

[bold yew]

Ya, id love to smuggle some cotraband, but I was told that is broken this time as well.

I might just bounty hunt or mine. I like those too

I dont blame them though I think unless your doing huge volume trading it is too easy.

little risk little reward. If they would add back some smuggling though where I had to run from the fuz, now that would be fun.

[tardy fox]

thanks dude

[bold yew]

Also just so I know my son has been trying to ROC mine, I guess gems. Is that working now? I know there was some scanner issues, but he is new and I dont want him to bang his head against it if it is borked.

We can switch over to ship mining if that is the only way.

[fallow ridge]

what is the best trading route for a very beginner

[bold yew]

If you want to do package deliveries and rank that up it is ok. However I have tried trading and unless you have a large hauler not a med one you wont make anything as it is right now

[fallow ridge]

i got a mustang

which means no package deliveries, right?

[bold yew]

I would not recomend it this patch with that ship.

[tardy cosmos]

RIP you

[fallow ridge]

yeah i made a mistake

[bold yew]

Well I have seen people who can huck a package into the back area 🙂

[fallow ridge]

lol

[tardy cosmos]

You can tractor beam packages behind the pilots seat and theyll stay there most of the time

[bold yew]

Actually you prob did good because bounty hunting is a great way to make money.

just about anything else but trading and package missions.

[fallow ridge]

i'll try bounty hunting i guess

[bold yew]

Although I do like package missions, you can always trade your ship in for the other starter that can do them.

There is no real loss in trading ships back and forth as far as I know.

you can even rent one in game, so many choices.

But no your not stuck with that ship you have credits = to the amount you put in so if you want the aurora a wonderful delivery ship you can just trade to it.

It might cost you $5 to trade up

[worthy scroll]

The Mustang is pretty capable with how ship gear currently works, you can do up to the last tier of bounty missions with it easily. Once you get the hang of flying and combat anyway.

[bold yew]

And it looks cool too, dont forget that 🙂

[worthy scroll]

Yarp. I have a Beta just because I'll always have a Beta.

[fallow ridge]

i had an aurora but in a reset i lost it

because some nice guy bought it for me

[worthy scroll]

Ah. Also great little ships. I still fly one regularly even though I have technically better ships.

[bold yew]

I really cant say enough good for the avenger titan though. That is my recommended starter ship hands down.

[analog field]

Xeno I've been rock mining a bunch, just gotta fly low and slow and only go to poi's that don't turn into ore at 5k distance

Gotta go slow when sucking up the gems or they go everywhere but other than that good money @bold yew

[wanton shell]

yeah they need to fix the extractor desperately

[analog field]

If you go slow from the outsides it rarely does it, and seems to be mostly low grav places that fuck with it

[bold yew]

@analog field And just to verify that is ROC mining?

[wanton shell]

yeah, that's how i do it, it still does the whirlwind though... unless you literally do like one at a time

[analog field]

Correct, you need a ship to haul it

[bold yew]

Ok, tyty

[analog field]

You can do 1-3 at a time

You can rent one for like 4k to try out

[bold yew]

Son has a cutty black, and rents the roc

[loud mural]

if i have 3 fltr xl, do they stack and make me eliminate 60% of inert ?

[glacial dagger]

Yup

[wanton shell]

right... aint no one got time for 1-3 at a time haha... i'll whirlywind for now

[bold yew]

I might try mining out because it seems fun as well. I just wanted to make sure this method is currently semi working, unlike trading with a normal ship.

[wanton shell]

if you rent a roc, with one trip and full haul of hadanite, you can purchase the roc outright

[analog field]

It works and makes decent money

[raw shell]

I rented them both, until I could buy a prospector

[analog field]

Even the junk gems are worth

[wanton shell]

i don't brake for dolivine 😛

[analog field]

Off a area of it (5 nodes) i made like: 40k. Is there a way to check before you get out

I just bring it with doing bunker missions and stop for whatever

[wanton shell]

yeah, just fly close to it, hold F and zoom in

if it's green, move on

or mine it, whatever you wanna do

[true portal]

Is there a way to reload consumable mining modules, or just buy a new one and replace?

[analog field]

Buy a new one

[true portal]

thanks

[analog field]

On a side note, i would stay away from mining on daymar until you get used to it. Always seems to be people hunting there

[tardy fox]

do they rob you rp it or just blow oyu up?

[analog field]

Just donk your ship and leave, and you can't spawn a new one at the mining place

[tacit creek]

anyone ship mining want a crew member?

[bold yew]

Anyone know if the prospector is coming with a loaner? I find it odd my freelancer has a arrow loaner and this one would not.

[analog field]

I don't think it is

[odd snow]

no its doesn't

[scarlet rover]

I mean the ROC comes with a loaner so I would be surprised if the Prospector doesn't. However, if its loaner is an Arrow, and you already have one, you won't get two - so that may be why it looks like you don't have one for it

AFAIK non-combat ships come with a loaner combat ship to use, like an Arrow, Hornet or even Aurora. Something with guns.

[fossil wolf]

Are you sure you wont get two arrows? I bought a polaris and it gave me a second harbinger

[scarlet rover]

I'm 90% positive but that's based off the CIG FAQ for loaners for preorder pledges

I'm not sure if the same applies to non-combat pledges that are already implemented

[fossil wolf]

Yeah fair

[scarlet rover]

My understanding of the non-combat pledges is so players who buy a Prospector or something will have a combat ship they can use in Arena Commander. I'm not certain if those are considered temporary or when they might be removed

[fossil wolf]

Anyone able to give me a build and help me learn to mine with my Mole?

[scarlet rover]

as in which heads to use?

[fossil wolf]

Yeah heads/modules

I already understand mining like keep it in the green and red usually = death

[bold yew]

Thanks for the answers on the loaner ship all 😁

[scarlet rover]

make sure you don't pop it with any red on the board - not only will it damage you, it'll scatter the results and you can get less yield

[tawdry cape]

What's the best place for multi tool mining?

[fossil wolf]

Yeah i know that as well but like whats a good build for the Mole?

[sterile bough]

Anyone having hard time finding Quant rocks in the belts? Over the last couple days haven’t seen a rock over 11% for days

[distant wagon]

no issues finding Q rock, I usually go between hurl2 and arcl4 or hurl2 and arccorp

[fossil wolf]

Any tips on mining heads and modules to use for quant mining?

[sterile bough]

Ill check it been doing cru1 and arc3 nothing

I use helix for breaking large rock and lancet for breaking them down and collecting.

[distant wagon]

both locations are about 9 M meters before arcl4 or arccorp from hurl2

[dire salmon]

does anyone know what i need to properly mine quantanium in a prospector?

[sterile bough]

I wonder if the rocks are on a rotation lol because last week i pulled in over 1.8 mil on quant refining in same location im in now

[tardy fox]

yeh i struggled today for hours in belt, very little

headed to lyria and found much more

[sterile bough]

Yeah might have to do that too. Are you using the roc or tour ship on the surface?

Sorry didn’t mean to reply on that post

[urban flame]

my only ship is a prospector and i have an arrow in my hangar for some reason

[tardy fox]

tour ship

[tardy fox]

i think it was part of that package deal?

did you but it real money?

buy*

[urban flame]

i upgrade my 325a to a cutlass then to a prospect and got an arrow too for some reason

[pallid temple]

The Arrow is an Arena Commander loaner for the Prospector

[urban flame]

ah

[tardy fox]

go fly it quick, so much fun

[sterile bough]

It is got one with my Mole

[worldly ledge]

Just cracked this beast with a prospector 😆

yep , thats me standing on one of the cracked pieces

@tardy fox glad i could help

[sterile bough]

Damn

What was the % on that bad boy?

[worldly ledge]

i can't remember , it was something like 46%

[sterile bough]

Very nice hopefully you were able to get a full load

[worldly ledge]

let's say i wish i'd already owned a mole

3200 quant

[distant wagon]

hope you marked it or called alot of friends in to help with that harvest, more than a ship can take

[worldly ledge]

100%

[sterile bough]

And when you own a mole you want an Odyssey

[worldly ledge]

check all the other rocks around it too

[sterile bough]

And solo mining in the Mole is very profitable but very time consuming. I would really suggest at least 1 crew member in the Mole

[worldly ledge]

3 work orders

[sterile bough]

Thats nice

What ship are you using to transport the quantanium

[worldly ledge]

until i get my hercules ?

lol

rented a constellation

[sterile bough]

Thinking of pickup the raft or saving up for the Hercules lol

[worldly ledge]

defo the hercules

[sterile bough]

The cargo is insane on it

[worldly ledge]

over 600 ?

[sterile bough]

I need 4 mil more for it lol

Yeah like 649 or something

[distant wagon]

how much can the raft hold?

[sterile bough]

96

[worldly ledge]

lol

[sterile bough]

Same as constellation

[distant wagon]

damn thats not much

constellation is same and better overall

[sterile bough]

But was going to purchase off pledge store that way on next reset ill have means to mine and transport to make the money

[worldly ledge]

just had this rock

100% quant fill

[sterile bough]

Damn you hitting big on planet surface

Moles kinda a pain in the ass on surface because gravity pulls that big bitch down. So to mine solo you need to land it by the rocks

[worldly ledge]

I'm gonna be fine 😆

[sterile bough]

Need some friends to gather the rest of that rock

Lol

[worldly ledge]

i take it the mole has 3 modules for each 3 lasers ?

[sterile bough]

Yes

[worldly ledge]

good

looking forward to custom loadout

[sterile bough]

I use one to break and anither to gather with the inert filters on it

[worldly ledge]

exactly

[sterile bough]

Now i just need to find the damn rocks lol

[fresh ivy]

friends and I found this last night

[crude aurora]

Cargo pretty much pointless it seems

[fresh ivy]

all of those were 10-20%

[crude aurora]

barely any profit

[sterile bough]

Also the Mole center laser windows are shitty and you can hardly see out of them

[fresh ivy]

had to leave a friend behind to mark the area while we ran it back, wound up being a Mole and a half worth of quant

[worldly ledge]

i had lots of those today

[sterile bough]

Lol good idea

[worldly ledge]

@fresh ivy nice !

[sterile bough]

Sacrificial lamb

[worldly ledge]

the LEMB

[sterile bough]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-baby-goal-funny-face-gif-13347383

[worldly ledge]

lol

[sterile bough]

Drop him off with a Roc and say have fun til we get back

[worldly ledge]

right, its bed for me, i got my Quant cookin !

[sterile bough]

The Mole is such a big ship we should have a space to put a land vehicle like the rov

Later

[worldly ledge]

take care guys

[wanton shell]

o/

[blissful rain]

in lyria?

[blissful rain]

NT is on

[analog field]

I love mining solo in the mole, just scan from the seat and don't move to the laser for crap rocks. Super easy

[ivory forge]

I'm contemplating upgrading my pledge from Mustang to Nomad for some ROC mining. But I don't understand the back of it. It doesn't close? SO that means I can't QT with it?
Also, what does piracy mean? LIke if I land with the nomad, by the time I get to the console someone can take the ROC out of my cargo bay?

[analog field]

I don't think the roc will fit in the nomad

I'll be damned it does but only just

It's unlikely anyone will snag the roc out of it piracy now adays it's extortion or just blowing you up

[bold yew]

Now subscribers need to see if they can strap a tonk on the back 😉

[analog field]

It def won't fit lol, doesn't even fit in the cutty

[crimson mantle]

It does fit, but you need to back it up if you want to be able to exit it

[worthy scroll]

When in doubt, look up "Will it fit" videos 😉

[analog field]

Oh sweet Jesus now i know what I need to do

[sage basin]

Renting a roc for a day is an irl day right?

[analog field]

Yurp 24 hours

It's cheap

[sage basin]

How much is it to rent and how easy is it to make that cash back

Bevause i plan to rent one till i can afford my own

[worthy scroll]

Bookmark this, it's a very useful site.

https://erkul.games/live/calculator

[sage basin]

What am i calculating here

[worthy scroll]

It shows where to get a lot of stuff, ship/vehicle components, and the ships/vehicles themselves.

Rental locations aren't always there though.

[analog field]

It's 4k to rent

[worthy scroll]

But it's at New Deal in Lorville, I assume the rental is there too.

[analog field]

20 of the crappiest gems pay for it

[sage basin]

And i can leave the planet with it yea?

[analog field]

You can rent it at any refiner as well but need to call it from a ground pad

Need a ship to haul it

[bold yew]

I knew erkul did builds, I did not know it showed you where to get the stuff.

[worthy scroll]

No I'm wrong. Rentals are at ARC-L1, CRU-L1, HRU-L1, HUR-L2, MIC-L1.

[crimson oak]

you can roc mine fine with the nomad, did it plenty of times

dont worry about it falling off or anything

its just a bit of a tight fit so it might be a bit annoying loading it in and unloading it compared to other choices

[sage basin]

I have a cutlass

[analog field]

It'll fit and you can take it with you

[sage basin]

It should be fine

Ye

[analog field]

I use mine to haul

[worthy scroll]

Roc and Cutty is a common combo.

[sage basin]

I assume the roc has a built in scanner?

[analog field]

Kinda

[sage basin]

wdym kinda

[analog field]

You need to fly low and slow and only stop at pois the don't turn to rocks within 5km

[ivory forge]

So cutty can carry ROC with closed doors I imagine unlike the Nomad. But does this mean Nomad can't QT with the ROC on board?

[analog field]

It'll still qt just fine

I've gotten to shut mine oven

Often

[sage basin]

I have never mined in game before, so im a little lost

Isnt the roc a land vic

And wdym pois? I thiught it was mostly open terrain on moons and stuff

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, the Nomad doesn't have closing doors on the back, just a ramp that extends and retracts. It's a pickup truck.

[ivory forge]

Can I run box delivery missions without them falling out? Seems like in zero-g they should float off as soon as I thrust

[worthy scroll]

Yep

It's a cargo platform, it has gravity and locks them down.

[analog field]

So corrupt it is a ground vehicle but you need to carry it, you don't wanna drive 100km in it

[sage basin]

Obv

[analog field]

Poi=points of interest and you're looking for those that don't change in 5km

[sage basin]

How would i be able to tell?

[analog field]

Basically if it's a mineral node it'll show a rock within 5km

After hitting tab

[ivory forge]

Ah ok, thats helpful to know.
So what about fear of piracy? I mine in the ROC, I land in the nomad and I walk to the terminal. How does someone potentially steal from me in this case?

[sage basin]

Gotcha

[analog field]

If it's still a box within 4km go towards it and it'll pop up as gems

[sage basin]

On the ship or on the roc

[analog field]

Other shop

[worthy scroll]

People can't lower your ramp outside of your party members (for now). Later the potential for hacking might be there.

[analog field]

Ship, you don't wanna drag the roc out until you see the gems

[sage basin]

Seems like a lot of hassle and back and forth

[ivory forge]

Ok, so as long as the ramp is up people can't steal from me

Oh wait, but the ramp doesn't go all the way up with the ROC in the back, is that the issue?

[sage basin]

why couldnt the roc just have a built in mineral scanner

[worthy scroll]

ROC mining is sort of a lifestyle choice 😆

[sage basin]

Seems anti-productive for the thing that mines to not be able to scan the mining item

Is there any way for me to ping the poi so it doesnt disappear after a few seconds

After i leave thr ship i mean

[analog field]

It does have a built in one

But you need to travel a fuck load to find them

You can scan for poi and scan the gems when you find them

But they are fairly uncommon

Oh once you're close enough to know the poi isn't a rock you'll see the gems. Can tab scan on the roc too

Within like 100-200m you'll see the gems

[worthy scroll]

ROC mining isn't meant to be a long term thing, just like hand mining. It's meant to be hand mining for newbies, then they can upgrade to a ROC once they have a ship big enough for it, then later they can get a Prospector if they want.

[sage basin]

Gotcha

[analog field]

You can make a dick load roc mining though

[sage basin]

So its worth learning how to do it quicker and the time investment?

[worthy scroll]

It's a good idea to get the skillset now so you'll have it later for when the game is a game.

[sage basin]

Gotcha

[worthy scroll]

If it doesn't totally change by then...

[sage basin]

"So we actually decided to remove mining"

[worthy scroll]

lol

[elfin yarrow]

Someone wants to mine ?

[analog field]

Roc mining is great practice, cause one of the gem types is fairly volatile like quant not near as much but enough to learn

For 4k it's worth

[distant wagon]

came back to station with a load of Q to find no elevator (bugged) at my pad, jumped over to next pad and same thing. any workaround on this?

[odd snow]

Ok… anyone on lyria with a prospector right now?

[distant wagon]

im just leaving arcl1

[odd snow]

Can you help me in exchange for one of these rocks? I found 3 good ones, i got one busted up, the other 2 wont budge.

I have one busted up you can have, it should fill you up with quant

[distant wagon]

np, let me bed log and try to find you...same name in game?

[odd snow]

Danielhv211

[distant wagon]

funny there is a roost3r on this server...okay coming out of QT now and will send request

[odd snow]

Awesome thank you!

[strange cove]

Can you transfer cargo, like if you refine stuff and want to have some one who has a cargo ship transport it

[worthy scroll]

Not yet. Currently you have to do it yourself. But later that's most likely how it will work.

[strange cove]

later, oof later in rsi means who knows when

still waiting on orion

[worthy scroll]

Eventually ™️

[normal compass]

I havent gotten star citizen yet but I was thinking about it. For cargo missions do you load boxes on your ship on X planet and deliver it to Z planet/ space station?

[strange cove]

yes, you need a ship you can physically drop the box in for those, alot of people make money by cargo trading or mining,refining then sell stuff

[analog field]

The Aurora is the best one to start with fit that, the mustang is a bitch to get boxes into

[strange cove]

and it sucks in a fight

[analog field]

The only thing good about the stang is it's quick and actually quite fun to drive

[strange cove]

explodes from getting a wash

the best part of the mustang is ship upgrading it into something useful

[odd snow]

I made a VERY expensive newb mistake. Found a nice set of rocks, got help breaking them, picked it all up and off to the refinery. I loaded it up in the terminal, and in the rush of trying to get back to the rocks where my help was waiting for another load, I hit the toggles to discard the crap and refine only the good stuff, snapped a pic with my cell phone so i can add it to my excel tracking log when I don’t have someone waiting on me, hit accept, acknowledged that the trash would be discarded, and hauled ass.

Now I see my mistake and it hurts.

[tame elbow]

Oof

[strange cove]

RIP

i want to try mining in a crew but i have no friends

just because i dont have a good cargo ship

i got a prospector

[odd snow]

Heck solo mining rocks (get it?)

https://tenor.com/view/knee-slap-chris-evans-gif-5914701

[analog field]

The biggest oof

[thin escarp]

feels good selling off that quant

5.8 mil

[obtuse raft]

anyone know what or where the keybind is for controlling the laser intensity?

[odd snow]

Mouse wheel up and down

[obtuse raft]

yea. i know. i meant the bind. found it tho. i twas under mining vehicle.

[hollow sedge]

where can i sell this?

[pastel flame]

Oh, oh no

[glacial dagger]

SC Trade tools MIGHT be able to help, but unfortunatly, quite a few lootables can't actually be sold yet, meaning their good for filling an inventory of someones ship, but that's about it

[glacial dagger]

nooooooo

[near pilot]

I wonder how long you can leave an completed refinery work in refinery before you moved it

[sage basin]

Had to reinstall my game cause of a few things. Anyways i got that gamer internet apparently. 30mb/s, only been going for 15 min and its 60% dont

only a matter of time before the rocks are mine

[analog field]

Light you can leave it for as long as you want, character reset kills em as does a wipe

So i think gem mining is only screwed on low grav environments

[near pilot]

thanks

[fathom gulch]

I'm only really starting to learn to possibly go mining and cargo running. Don't know for how long but if I can rent a Roc, I'd do that but got any tips at all?

[analog field]

You'll need a ship to haul the roc but the roc is only 4k

A day

[loud mural]

ok my taurus is full of refined ores

let's hope i don't crash or anything

[white dove]

hey is it still impossible to buy from private property and the orphanage?

[loud mural]

yup

shops without landing pads won't recognize your ship

[sage basin]

Dude are all the gems supposed to soawn in places you can hardly reach with a roc

They're always in spots its impossible to hit

Or, when they crack, they go INTO the world mesh, so they arent even retrievable

[loud mural]

yeah most of them spawn under a rock for me

it's BS i quit roc mining a while ago

[sage basin]

Its so unenjoyable

Literslly just cracked a gem and csnt fet any of the stones

Whats the point

[loud mural]

it's bugged

don't waste your time on roc mining it sucks right now

[sage basin]

I cant even transfer my inventory items to the roc, so that i can just pick up the gems myself

[fierce ore]

Is this quite right? For instance I can buy from Jumptown and that does t have a pad

[loud mural]

how

i can never see my ship in these

[fierce ore]

I'm sure I used the trade terminal during the jumptown event and saw my ship

[glacial dagger]

Yh, that JT one works

[solar trail]

is it possible to have multiple active modules ongoing at once? like for example, an Optimum and a Stampede

[glacial dagger]

Not entirely well versed on active, but I believe so

[pure wasp]

oh sorry

hi guys

new miner here

[glacial dagger]

Wassup bud

[pure wasp]

i have some issues mining

[glacial dagger]

go on

[pure wasp]

my prospector on stock while mining a deposit

the charge level is in green area, but once the deposit cracks, my ship engines went keput

[glacial dagger]

Sounds like you were too close and the crack shock got to your engines. Did it take your shields down as well?

[pure wasp]

my whole system panel went down

[analog field]

If there is a nearly full green energy bar it can pop kinda hard too

[pure wasp]

it was half

[analog field]

Can you reboot?

[glacial dagger]

Yh, either you were way too close, or you managed to over charge it

[analog field]

The ship that is

[pure wasp]

tried reboot ing

so a rock killed my engines?

[analog field]

U to turn off

U to turn on and hold 4

Err r

R not 4 lol

[glacial dagger]

If you overcharge a rock, it can defo damage your ship or even kill it completly, xplosions and all

[analog field]

But it could just be toast

[pure wasp]

2nd time today

[analog field]

Yup can't be too close

[pure wasp]

whats the best distance

im always go 30meters

[analog field]

In a prop? I stay 50 ish unless the rock is tough but you can back up before it pops

[pure wasp]

ah ok

[analog field]

They don't explain it will

Well, dang phone

[glacial dagger]

Quick tip for power hotkeys.
U - All power, turns your ship off completely
R- Flight ready, turns everything on completely
i - Turns engines on/off
O - Turns shields on/off
P - Turns weapons on/off
For power movements
F5 - more power to weapons cap
F6 - More power to afterburner re-gen
F7 - More power to shield re-gen
F8 - Resets power placements
For shield movements
NumPad 8 - More shield to front
Numpad 6 - More shield to right
Numpad 2 - More shield to rear
Numpad 4 - More shield to left

[pure wasp]

shud i get a bigger ship?

lol

[analog field]

Nah the prosp is fine, just a learning curve

[pure wasp]

im at celline

ok

let me try now

felt so crap it craps breaking

[analog field]

It's more annoying for it to not kill you out right lol

[pure wasp]

killing me would have met me felt better

so if a rock is super hard

[glacial dagger]

What was in the rock?

[pure wasp]

laranite

[glacial dagger]

Yh, I think you must have just overcharged it a bit while being slightly too close

[fierce ore]

can you sell SLAM at Grim Hex?

[pure wasp]

If i afk at refinery will my ores be gone while refining

[analog field]

Nope they stay till you take em

[gentle ibex]

wonder if should do bounties to get 2 mill credits instead of roc mining. roc mining feels so slow to find diamond rocks

[odd snow]

I just started down the bounty path. I didn’t realize how long it takes to work up to the better paying bounties. Kinda sucks

[worthy scroll]

The good news is you're making money the whole way.

[analog field]

Ya gotta roam a lot to find the gems, but each pile is worth a fair bit

[open pebble]

Sigh...

[tacit creek]

Anyone want a gunner for ship mining?

[odd snow]

What’s happening? I’m thinking about trying nine tails today for the first time. Just buy med supplies and go deliver right? Is it like jump town where someone stabs you in the back constantly?

Only cargo ships I have are the Taurus and the Carrack.

[tardy fox]

im getting 3 fps at station...servers struggling... beware

[open pebble]

Man, people are like crabs in a bucket with this med supply mission

[tardy fox]

poor c2's getting abused

lol

[open pebble]

Yea, and CRU L4 only has two hangars so there's always a wait to spawn your ship

[gentle ibex]

so traffic control works 😮

[open pebble]

It works, but just takes forever

[rose root]

Been having so much fun ransoming the c2's. everyone leaves their doors open at outposts

[open pebble]

Really? I never leave my ship open anywhere

[odd snow]

@rose root how r u doing that?

[rose root]

Wait at Yela or Cellin, once they land just run up to whatever they use, elevator or door. a suprising amount of people dont pay attention. then just hide on their ship till you're out of the armistace zone and you're gravy

I give em 60 seconds to send the money, and if they get out of their seats i shoot em

[open pebble]

Of course the event ends as I'm pulling in with a C2 of med supplies

[odd snow]

Lol nice. I’ve wanted to try some of this just for the rush

[rose root]

and @odd snow because 90% of the people doing the event are greedy solo players in C2's, they don't have people with them to look out for pirates

[odd snow]

You just leave you’re ship sitting on the ground next to them?

[rose root]

Yep

[odd snow]

So they pay you, then what

You keep riding until they get to their destination?

[rose root]

Yep

[odd snow]

Beast

[rose root]

drop you offf at the station too haha

[odd snow]

And they cant press charges?

[rose root]

But if you're already red, as in have a crimestat, only stay in the ship if they are assholes, because the station guns will take them out because they are targeting you inside their ships

If they are awesome people and play along and pay and you're red, just alt f4 out so they can still sell all their loot

Nope, because you haven't comitted a crime, you techically boarded thier ship with their permission

[odd snow]

No i mean if you end up popping them in the head outside the armistice zone

[rose root]

Ohh of course yes

you will get one

unless you're in deep space

you tell them to remove themselves from QT

[odd snow]

And they actually listen? How long is the ride?

[velvet grail]

Is trading broke again??

[rose root]

Just don't be greedy. my pirate rates were 200k for the M2, 250K for the C2

that way they still made out with like 70% of the insane profit from the event

[odd snow]

Nice

[rose root]

I type in global in caps to get their attention

and give em 60 seconds

[odd snow]

Hell i have global turned off 90% of the time

[rose root]

if they are AFK while hauling a 1.5mill payday they kinda deserve it tbh

[odd snow]

Gets in the way

[rose root]

Never, ever have global off if you're doing any cargo hauling where you've invested money man