industrial-professions

[worthy scroll]

It's more convoluted than it needs to be, end of story. You can do it without holding down a button, but they've restricted it so much that you can't use it that way.

[scarlet rover]

That's fair. I don't know how other games do it. But at the end of the day it's possible, I showed you which control to use, and do it all the time for landing in those bays you seemed to find difficult. Maybe this game isn't for you if pushing a button to look in a direction is so upsetting.

[worthy scroll]

Wow lol. If anything in this game was upsetting to me, I wouldn't have been playing for years now. All I'm saying is the way they've done it in this is unnecessarily complicated. It's probably fine if you're just using m/k, but sticks is a bit more involved than that. The solution is already right there and halfway implemented, they just need to make it work.

[subtle cradle]

What happened inhere? This community used to be so helpful

[worthy scroll]

Probably just got lost in the conversation. Happens sometimes. IIRC the passive modules do stack, but I couldn't say that as fact, the last time I mined was a year or more ago. Things may have changed.

[subtle cradle]

Yeah I know. It just helps being dramatic to get attention and answers to questions sometimes lol.
@worthy scroll thanks bro, I've bought 3 Torrent III modules now and will test it out

[worthy scroll]

Back when I mined I used three of the ones that filter out inert, and they all worked together.

[subtle cradle]

It's gonna be 120k lost if I blow up, but I just had to give up on a 7200mass 45% quant rock and it made me sad

[marble crater]

I use sticks and have set up my freelook button to toggle. It's pretty much permanently in that mode for me and I use a directional hat to look around. Tapping the toggle button recentres if I need to

[worthy scroll]

Ooh, how do you have it set as a toggle?

[subtle cradle]

It didn't seem to stack. I couldn't even crack a 6200 quantanium rock with 3 torrent III modules sadly.

[worthy scroll]

Ah dang.

Well, I was going off old info, so I wasn't sure if it still worked like that.

[subtle cradle]

Yeah i don't understand how it works tbh. Others seems to be able to crack most planetary rocks with their prospectors according to themselves

[subtle cradle]

Yeah you made that clear. I just figured I'd try it and take one for the team.
It's all good though, I can just use them one at the time

[worthy scroll]

I've been messing around with the hold to look, but in the Raft it really doesn't help much since you can't see below you while in cockpit view. Instead I'm just sort of rocking the ship back and forth so I can see how close I am in front of me.

Which is a slight chore in the Raft since she's about as maneuverable as an obese elephant 🤣

[subtle cradle]

Yeah you definitely need to be able to line up the ship and then go to third person freelook for anything as thicc or thiccer than a Raft when landing in hangars

[worthy scroll]

I'll get used to the ship and it's dimensions (big ol' butt) eventually, this is my first day with it after all.

The hangars are a pretty right squeeze, you basically have to put your cockpit glass right against one end to get her to fit.

[marble crater]

it's been a while since I set it up but I believe it happens when you unbind all flight movement/vehicle rotations from the mouse input. It should then support both toggle & hold function

Not very intuitive I know

Just had a look on Spectrum & apparently it's a Smart Toggle button now on Z by default so can try just tapping your Freelook button

[odd snow]

Is the shaking up and down in the bottom laser turret on the mole a new thing or has it always been like that?

[worthy scroll]

I do have all that unbound, it's one of the first things I do. My mouse currently, if I move it while flying, moves my character's head.

[worthy scroll]

Oh, so it's a toggle already? I'll try it after I log in.

[crimson oak]

consumables like surge and stampede help a lot

[worthy scroll]

It does work as a toggle! Heck yeah, now the look function is actually usable.

[marble crater]

nice! yeah I pretty much have it permanently on freelook mode and double tap to reset to centre & re-engage freelook

[worthy scroll]

I don't even have to double tap it, I just click again to center. I have it on a foot button, so I don't have to worry about more hands stuff.

[marble crater]

first click centres it, but takes me out of freelook mode

[worthy scroll]

Oh gotcha

[marble crater]

but yeah hold just doesn't work smoothly on stick

[worthy scroll]

Finally something to map my other foot switch to that's useful.

On the sc-trade site, are the uptick counters accurate for the commodities? Like if it says +8,681/min, that's how much it increases every minute at that location?

Guess I answered it myself. I've been here for several minutes now and it hasn't upticked yet.

[worthy scroll]

Soooo the Raft barely slows down in time to get scanned by the cops. I thought that was going to end bad.

[odd snow]

Eek

[subtle cradle]

I've used forel, since the description sounded like it was the best for big rocks. I guess not then

[crimson oak]

surge gives you a big jump in charge, if you time it right you can get right into the green, or in really tough rocks you can jump up enough and wait for it to decrease enough to use it a second time to get into the green. Then you can use stampede to double the rate of progression when its in the green so it cracks faster than it can decrease.

In my third slot i usually take a passive mod like torrent III

optimum is also a good pick though, it increases the size of the green zone.

[subtle cradle]

Oh okay. Thanks for the tips @crimson oak .
Gonna try that next time.
Cheers mate 👍

[molten stag]

I’ve been tracking cargo runs on a spreadsheet. This is for fluorine runs.

[worthy scroll]

Flourine runs sounds like something you should see the doctor about.

[scarlet rover]

what trading posts?

[molten stag]

Arcorp mining 157 to Deakin’s, both on Yela

[molten stag]

In a C2 it takes me roughly 12 minutes to complete one run but you could probably optimize that a bit.

And by one run I mean purchasing at 157, flying to Deakin’s, selling, and flying back to 157

[odd snow]

I wish the mole showed the quant timer and load makeup on an MFD for the pilot.

[crimson oak]

yeah that would be handy

trading wise i dont think ive ever touched flourine

usually astatine, titanium, diamonds

[nocturne silo]

I feel like the profit isn't as big, but the risk is also lower

Like, low-profit materials are less enticing to steal, imo

[crimson oak]

steal? O_o

[nocturne silo]

Is piracy not a thing yet? I'm still rather new to the game

[molten stag]

Yea mostly just wanted to be out of the way. I’m doing titanium routes now and gonna be tracking those as well.

[crimson oak]

no not really, if you steal someones ship you cant sell anything from the cargo

[nocturne silo]

Ah

[crimson oak]

well i guess you could possibly grab one crate at a time

[molten stag]

Lol good luck with that

[crimson oak]

but crates dont always show and even then its tedious and buggy

[molten stag]

The risk is lower in the sense if a crash or something happens you aren’t losing as much as if you had a full load of titanium.

[nocturne silo]

True true

[molten stag]

I did have my internet connection drop at one point after buying a full load of Flourine

Set me back a little bit lol

I estimated you can make about 130-140k an hour in a C2 running Flourine

[nocturne silo]

That's not too shabby

But I need a C2 first, lol

[molten stag]

Yea it works out pretty good as a way to get up the funds to purchase a full load of titanium.

[midnight egret]

Grabbing a prospector for the first time in years. Which mining heads / consumables do I want?

[nocturne silo]

What cargo would be most profitable in easy loops using a rented Freelancer?

[crimson oak]

Lancet head for quantanium, surge, stampede, and optimum or a passive mod like torrent III

[crimson oak]

astatine, titanium, diamonds

laranite+agricium when possible but thats always sold out.

[scarlet rover]

Laranite has the best margin right now if you can front the capital to purchase a cargoload

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Freelancer%2522,%2522investment%2522:200000,%2522itemName%2522:%2522Diamond%2522,%2522itemQuantity%2522:100,%2522profitType%2522:%2522pure%2522%257D

[nocturne silo]

Just want to start getting big money, and doing trade loops seems a simple way(if boring)

Though idk how much of a margin I'll have starting out, lol

[scarlet rover]

how much capital do you have to invest upfront?

keep in mind if something happens to your ship or you have to reclaim it at a terminal, you lose the cargo and your investment

[nocturne silo]

I have just over 500k total atm, hence using a rented freelancer

Cause my only ship is a 300i

[scarlet rover]

if you're good throwing in 150-200k you could get a hull full of laranite, which looks like it would probably net you around 30k per trip right now

[crimson oak]

assuming you can find enough to fill your cargo which is rare

it happens but its rare

[nocturne silo]

Fair enough

[scarlet rover]

supply and demand are shared across all servers

[nocturne silo]

Rip

That's probably be why I couldn't sell scrap the other day then

[scarlet rover]

so the more citizens buying something the less the stock of it, and the more trying to sell to TDDs, the less demand at those TDDs

basically. if you go somewhere and it shows up but is red, that means they dont have enough to sell you, or dont want to buy from you because they have enough

[nocturne silo]

Gotcha

[scarlet rover]

https://uexcorp.space/

[nocturne silo]

So... given Laranite is valuable, a less valuable material may be easier to trade?

[scarlet rover]

most commodities have poor margins right now due to oversupply from players running cargo

[scarlet rover]

correct, but you're limited by your hold's SCU capacity. So you could try to run aluminum or corundum but might end up spending more on fuel than you make in profit on those runs

[nocturne silo]

Mmmm

[scarlet rover]

I think Al has a margin of something like 20 UEC/SCU right now

[crimson oak]

scrap can only be sold on particular stations now

[nocturne silo]

I went to multiple of them, and the number was always red. Didn't know what it meant

[crimson oak]

if you read the latest patch notes you'll see the particular stations where you can sell scrap at

[scarlet rover]

If he could see the commodity under the sale tab, but the number was red, that means there is no demand for it.

[nocturne silo]

Again, I went to them, but the option to move the slider when selecting scrap was greyed out and the number on the scrap was red.

[crimson oak]

the right stations listed in the patch notes?

if so then yeah probably all maxed out

[nocturne silo]

Yes, the ones in the patch notes.

[scarlet rover]

Hey Saracen you wanna list them again

Just to finish beating the horse

[odd snow]

I loaded 17 scu of refined quant into my Connie this morning and now it's gone. No work order, no crates. 😡

[crimson oak]

no need to be a dick about it geo, i was just making sure, there are a lot of new players and returning who dont have all the info.

stay classy though dude.

[nocturne silo]

I appreciate you making sure, but I had responded after you mentioned only certain stations that I had been to more than one of them, as in I had gone to more than one of the specific locations.

I didn't make it explicitly clear, because I figured you got what I was saying.

[crimson oak]

yeah but for all i know the stations you went to were not the right one and you were not aware of it only being available at very specific stations, not everyone reads patch notes so ive learned to be very patient and open minded when trying to help people.

[royal zinc]

I've been playing the game for a couple weeks now and i heard mining is profitable, how much aUEC can u make from mining? and is is something hard to learn?

[raw shell]

like anything else, it depends on how much you grind at it. There are different ways to mine, each with different methods and reward/risk level. All methods involve using a mining laser which is a mini-game type mechanism where you charge a rock and have a "green zone" to maintain the charge to break it.. then you can gather the ore you can sell. At the bottom, there is hand-mining in caves. At the top, quantanium mining with an Argo MOLE. There are good videos in youtube for the various methods. At the bottom with a rented ROC and Cutless to carry it in, I mined enough hadanite to make around 400k in a week of the time I had for it. This month's subscription ship of the month is an Argo MOLE. I'll make around 15mil by the end of the month.

[heady sundial]

Do both ROC fit into the Cutlass?

[raw shell]

I know the ROC does, I don't know about the DS ROC

[heady sundial]

So dont mind me asking, but how does this work if I would buy the ROC? Spawn both and drive the ROC into the cutlass?

[raw shell]

you would claim the ship on a station, then fly to a place you want to mine - lets say Daymar for an example. You'd fly to ArcCorp Mining 141 where they have a ground vehicle pad and summon your ROC. Then you drive it into the back of the cutlass and fly around looking for gems to mine. Once you have it, you can keep it in the cutlass and store it on a station and you can sell ore stored on the roc and it will be there when you claim your ship again. Just be aware you have to fly back to a ground pad and repair the roc periodically or bad stuff happens.

[heady sundial]

Thanks!

[raw shell]

np! by the way, you can rent a ROC pretty cheaply to try it out

cutlass too

[worthy scroll]

Pretty much. I grab all the laranite I can at sites, and then grab the next most valuable one. Laranite is usually pretty wiped out, I've only managed to fill my Raft once with it, and the Raft isn't even a big cargo ship.

[crimson oak]

ya end up buying astatine/titanium/diamonds more than anything else.

[minor perch]

looking for a crew to bring my friends into on the weekends

[molten stag]

FYI don’t trade scrap it’s broken again for some reason

[crimson oak]

again? O_o

[bright star]

Broken how? Did you sell them at Lagrange points?

[molten stag]

https://youtu.be/d3isIiy37YY

[north oyster]

It is probably without the fixed refresh rate they did for all the other commodities

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year all my mining and trading friends

[stoic elbow]

Yeah wish i saw that earlier, full cargo hold with scrap i cant get rid off now lol

[molten stag]

Big rippp

[errant yew]

can ROC change the weapon to mining?

[misty swift]

Hey guys -- sorry for a dumb question.. how do I scan for asteroids with my mole?

I am pretty sure I'm doing it right by the guides but I'm probably not..

[hollow sedge]

tab

then v

[obtuse raft]

spose you could mine a bunch on one character.. sell it.. then pick it up with the other as a cargo runner and sell it elsewhere. 😛

[misty swift]

hmm

thanks @hollow sedge, why would my UI keep glitching out when I'm mining an asteroid? is it broken currently?

Because i can't see how close it is to the green/red zone

that bar vanishes

[hollow sedge]

you have to move back and forth sometimes

doesnt help that you're in a mole

[misty swift]

feck

thank you so much!

this is my first time trying this so I'm a total newb - any and all tips would be much appreciated ❤️

[raw shell]

any tips on hunting bexalite on daymar? Spawn patterns, if it appears with other minerals, geography, high volume locations?

[hollow sedge]

hunting like a bounty?

check out sctradetools

[pseudo reef]

mining in argo mole/need 1/have mining expierence/paying 100k per found GOOD cluster.

[loud mural]

What's most profitable roc mining or prospector mining?

On rental

[verbal cargo]

Did they fix ROC mining? like the extraction and do nodes still spawn under environment rocks?

[loud mural]

I already have a cutlass black, it seemed to me that the ROC was paid off faster

I rented a prospector as well but I think It just seemed I lost 70k lmao

[verbal cargo]

on rental the roc is more profitable

[loud mural]

OK it's what I was thinking

[verbal cargo]

but if you save up for a prospector then you'll make more from that once you modify it

its only a little over 2 mil

[loud mural]

I kinda feel like I'd be better off doing bounties or rescue missions with the cutty

[thin escarp]

@misty swift v, tab to scan and then hold left click when your within like

75m of the rock

[misty swift]

thank you so much @thin escarp

[proven lily]

where's a good place to roc mine?

[mossy radish]

lancet w/ stampede and surge modules is the best setup for quant or is there an alternative?

[mossy radish]

daymar due to easy weather

[mossy radish]

idk but i end going to alberdeen for some reason, maybe because its more adventurous

[loud mural]

Are planets good for mining?

[slender citrus]

Anyone know if it is even possible to mine larger 50% quant rocks solo in a Prospector? If so, what equipment do I need?
I have a Lancet MH1 with a FocusIII and FLTR-XL

On about 40% and up, especially rocks with over 3,500-ish mass, I can't make any progress on the mining power level (right side. If I make any progress, I quickly loose it out of nowhere.

[raw shell]

The % doesnt really matter, what matters is the mass. You should be able to break rocks up to 5k with the prospector. You may want to look into the surge, stampede and brandt modules to help

[mossy radish]

i think you have to use surge modules plus stampede id wait for other answers

what about 8k mass?

[raw shell]

Negative, need friends to break those

[mossy radish]

can you solo it with the mole or still need people?

[slender citrus]

I haven't found any 8Ks, yet.

[raw shell]

I couldnt do it solo in a mole, a 7900 mass. Tried helix 2, multiple surges, lancet, stampede. Even if I got it to green, it dropped too fast for stampede

Ive seen plenty of 8k+ on lyria

[mossy radish]

i feel like i waste too much time with 5k rocks

[raw shell]

Are using surge and stampede?

*you

[mossy radish]

stampedes and a brandt

arc l1 doesnt sell them

[raw shell]

You need a surge to ram it up to green

Stampede to blast it through green

Once you hit them just right, youll break a 5k in a few seconds

[mossy radish]

yeah i have to stock up and bring them to arc l1

[raw shell]

Yeah it's a pain

I had the stocked at cru l1 and arc l1, then the patch moved the all to a18

[slender citrus]

I don't understand why the wiki always says ARK-L1 and CRU-L1 sell various modules. They don't sell modules.

[raw shell]

Yeah down in the refinery, at the clothing store

I get surges at PO though

[mossy radish]

remember to scroll on the tabs at the top

[slender citrus]

You buy them in the clothes terminal?

[raw shell]

Yep use the scroll wheel

Trips everyone up

[slender citrus]

Where?

[raw shell]

Scroll the menu over at the top

Utility

[slender citrus]

OH! Why can they not put those pretty things most of us call a SCROLL BAR? Maybe an arrow button. Anything to show that there is more menus.

Nice! They sell the Brandt and Stampede modules here at ARK-L1!

[mossy radish]

so about lyria

where can i find a good spot?

[worthy scroll]

To save myself a bunch of running around, in which part of New Babbage is TDD?

[scarlet rover]

Commons

[worthy scroll]

Thanks, I had already found it. I just wasn't all that familiar with NB. I've only explored it once before, and due to performance issues never went back except to beeline to the expos.

[hollow sedge]

is it normal to find 1 quantanium rock with 30% takes about 2 hours? 😄

[worthy scroll]

Got bored with the laranite runs so I decided to run some medical supplies around MT and somehow ended up with a net loss...

[gentle roost]

So how does one solo with a Prospector ship? After my ship is full, what's the next step?

[worthy scroll]

Go to a refinery and put your stuff in there to get refined.

Or, you can sell it raw.

[gentle roost]

Is the profit difference for the amount of time vastly different between those options?

[worthy scroll]

You get a lot more for refining (also depending on what refining method you use) compared to selling it as-is.

[gentle roost]

There are multiple methods?

[worthy scroll]

It's a balance of speed, cost, and yield.

https://starcitizen.fandom.com/wiki/Refinery_deck

[twin sentinel]

Quick Question: What is the best location to go quant mining?

[worthy scroll]

One annoying thing about the Raft. It has a lot of floodlights. A lot. Many ships have nuclear headlights, even small ships. You'd think that the Raft would be able to light up a moon.

Headlights off.

Headlights on.

[gentle roost]

When mining, do y'all end up getting attacked often by other players?

[obtuse raft]

ive been attacked just travelling around much less while mining

[worthy scroll]

Not really. In three years I've been attacked by players maybe three times.

[obtuse raft]

ive been attacked 4 times in the last week

3 times i got blown up. i ran away the 4rth time

[worthy scroll]

Note that I'm not talking about going to PO, that's just asking to get attacked if you go there. Same with Grim Hex.

[obtuse raft]

i was just doign package retrievals

wasnt even at grim

[worthy scroll]

It's been a very, very rare thing for me.

[obtuse raft]

so twice were at moon stations. once was in space when i was just sitting trying to configure my joystick. killed me before i could get out of the menus

the 4rth where i got away was outside of grim when someone tried to get me before i entered the docking area

on a good note. know how to run away now lol

heard two other guys who got ganked first playhing the game in discord. they both left angry. not sure if they will play again.

both first day players

[worthy scroll]

Sadly that happens quite a lot in games that have this kind of open PvP.

[obtuse raft]

shame really. that just means the trolls win

i wont stop playing. but it WAS agiating for me initially. i was just trying to learn to play when it happened to me as well.

[worthy scroll]

I've left games because of people like that. I'm not a PvPer in any aspect, I'll be the one running away too.

[fresh ivy]

It’s pretty important to give people a chance to actually learn in an accessible way before opening things up to pvp sharks

Possibly even ensure there are always ways to play without having to deal with that

A lot of games have tried to do the “full open pvp all the time” thing and they inevitably fail because griefers drive away the rest of the playerbase, and all the whinging about “there should be stakes” doesn’t change that outcome

[mighty kettle]

There is a way to stay away from pvp, just go to the places that aren’t popular. I would dare to suggest if you are getting attacked regularly as a miner you have watched a guide and are going to the most popular mining locations / using the best ‘meta’ routes. This map is huge you can easily go find your own quiet space.

[glacial dagger]

I will agree though, that maybe having like a tutorial menu from the home screen that's literally just a mock up of certain experiences, and there is no rep gained or lost, it's just practice

[mossy radish]

any other planets worth mining for quantanium?

[thin escarp]

@mossy radish not as juicy as lyria sadly

rocks far and few inbetween.

[mossy radish]

damn, so sal-2?

[loud mural]

Is there better moons for roc mining?

[thin escarp]

@loud mural arial and aberdeen pretty much have the most

[loud mural]

And what about planets?

[main saddle]

Here's a breakdown of cost/time/profit for Quantainium. Compares the different methods and versus just selling raw.

[loud mural]

I always go for dinyx method

[main saddle]

I used one of the others when it was unclear if 3.16 was gonna drop when I wouldn't be able to get on to get the job, but I gave up about 47k potential profit to do it.

otherwise ferron or dinyx, yeah

[loud mural]

I really want to buy a prospector, right now I only have a cutlass and a Gladius, I think I'll just rent a roc, do deliveries and cargo with my cutty

Maybe some bounties

[obtuse raft]

just got attacked again at a facility out on babbage.. a guy threw a ton of missles at me.. ecm and chaff.. he didnt get me.. so at least i cost him that before i ran off.. one of these days ill have the guns to make them regret it.

i wasnt even mining.. just dropping off a package..

i seem to only run into these guys when im on the usa server... but not on the eu server.. i hate to think thats the mentality here.

[lament loom]

what do I get

Prospector or Argo Mole

[subtle cradle]

Prospector if solo

[twin sentinel]

whats a good percentage of quant to mine?

thanks!

[subtle cradle]

20%+

[loud mural]

I heard there was equipment that would prevent from picking up inert materials?

What should I look for?

[amber sierra]

Go to the refinery shop on HUR-L1, look for the FLTR XL module

[loud mural]

Thanks I'll look it up

[ashen epoch]

yea i would say pick the planet that has good ore to sell then pic spot randomly on planet and slow boat down away from all quantum poi

[wintry ruin]

Pretty much anything. More is better but you might get lucky breaking them down.

When you get back to the station refine only the quant (maybe the othe high values iif you picked some up)

Rinse repeat

then bring the lot someplace to sell it all at once

After about 5 minutes looking for 20%ers I just fly back to a smaller one and more often than not wind up with a hold of pure quant as it broke down good

[high lichen]

So if i have one ship to mine, and one to haul the ore back to station, how do i move the ore from the miner to the hauler?

two pilots, not one pilot with two ships

[fresh ivy]

Gotta deliver ore with the mining ship. Hauler is for when it’s refined

[worthy scroll]

Figured I'd just go back to box missions since running cargo in the Raft isn't really all that profitable right now. But I forgot box missions are pretty hit and miss currently.

[thin escarp]

@twin sentinel20%+ if prospector 30%+ if mole depending on size

for quant

@high lichen you can only haul with your own ships. you cannot use friends either.

refining time takes awhile so you just stack them all up and then take when done.

the load will stay in the refinery

@loud mural i can send you my mining guide if you'd like

[foggy spear]

Could you send me your guide too?

[loud mural]

i'd like that

would you recommend renting a prosp or a roc ?

[mossy radish]

ROC

id wait for another opinion, but i can reliable make money just roc mining with rentals than a prospector rental

to reap the benefits of prospector mining i feel like you have to upgrade the mining head/modules which is something you cannot do with a rental

[mossy radish]

otherwise youll be mining stuff that isnt really profitable

[royal spear]

Which places now work for selling scrap?

[fallow breach]

i have a mole. if anyone wants to go out minining i want to learn some new spots

[royal spear]

You can make excellent profit with prospector mining with a rental, arguably more if you don't have a spotter and/or are bad at fining ROC minables.

You just have to skip the worthless stuff and hit the higher earners, Ideally Laranite. With 1 good haul of Laranite you can make back the cost of the rental and then make pure profit from there.

So can take like 10-20mins to break even depending on how fast you are with scanning stuff down

[lucid pendant]

isn't ROC mining broken atm?

[royal spear]

No

[lucid pendant]

I bought one last night but couldn't find anything after an hour

[loud mural]

I'm pretty close from buying a roc

[royal spear]

Well not any more or less broken than anythign else

[royal spear]

Because it works differently now

[lucid pendant]

I asked in Global and people said it was broken because you cant scan anything to mine

[loud mural]

You have to fly low and slow

[royal spear]

you can only ping them within 2.5km

I find that flying ~300 vel at around 700-1000m altitude in a straight line and pinging on cd gets be the best results.

as soon as I see a new signature within 2.5km I turn and burn

[lucid pendant]

I tried as low as 100 alt and velocity but couldn't find anything

[royal spear]

You could've gotten unlucky

[lucid pendant]

ah ok

I'll have another go

[royal spear]

chat defo lied to you unless they broke something badly in 3.16 but not seen any evidence of that 😛

it is annoying to scan down

[lucid pendant]

everything was rocks for prospector pinging at 4-5k

[royal spear]

which is why I said that prospector is better as you don't need a spotter. Ideally for ROC you want a buddy to go and spot them with a 100i or something

[lucid pendant]

ah ok nice

[royal spear]

yeah if you see something that has distance >2.5k ignore it

[thin escarp]

@foggy spear i gotchu

@loud mural never rent a prospector

you need to change the laser for it to be worth a damn

[royal spear]

uugh more people parroting the same uninformed advise 😛

[thin escarp]

roc isnt broken

you just gotta fly low af

and at a decent pace

[urban flame]

Where do you find laranite to mine in a prospector?

[royal spear]

Asteroid belt is a good place

Also these places

[urban flame]

was about to rent a prospector 😦 have cutty black, want to make money to buy trading ship/mining ship wat do

[marble quail]

why can't i find a surge mod to buy? any help?

[north oyster]

You have to scroll with the mouse wheel on the terminal

[marble quail]

oh hey dan! ok i will do that. where at?

[north oyster]

At the terminal of a refinery store. CRU-L1 doesn't have it for some reason

I think the last time I bought the S1 surge was at one of the HUR

[modern hedge]

should i upgrade my mole's mining lasers?

and if i do, to what?

[fresh ivy]

Yes, to some combination of Helix II and Lancet II

[modern hedge]

we are two ppl atm

[fresh ivy]

Probably 1x Helix, 2x Lancet

[modern hedge]

which is better at what?

cuz my friend is always in the laser, and i take tim to go down. is one of them better to be used first?

[fresh ivy]

Helix has more raw power but is kind of a blunt instrument. Lancet has less power but passively widens the target zone

In my mole, I have the helix in the center and the two lancets on the sides— my buddy takes a side and spins up the lancet

Then if it needs more power than he can add I hop over to the helix

[modern hedge]

aight

[fresh ivy]

If it’s a really finicky rock for whatever reason we can both hop on lancets and make it real easy

[modern hedge]

lancet mh2?

[fresh ivy]

Yep

[modern hedge]

helix II?

[fresh ivy]

Yes

[modern hedge]

aight, thx

108k... huh

[fresh ivy]

np, enjoy

Yeah it’s a bit spendy

[modern hedge]

spendin 50% of my cash ez

[fresh ivy]

The first good run you have and you’ll make it back

[odd snow]

Is there a way to make the mining modules on the HUD not cluttered? Seems like most of the time they are scrambled up, every once in awhile the text will display correctly.

[modern hedge]

i cant find the lasers at tamany and sons lorville lol

[raw shell]

nah it's fked up

welcome to the QA department 😄

please report your findings to management

[odd snow]

@modern hedge did you mouse wheel over on the terminal to the utility category?

[vocal chasm]

Any reason why the extraction mode from the ROC doesn't work at all?

edit: switching servers fixed it

[crimson oak]

mouse over the tab headers and right click, then use mouse wheel, the tab for mining stuff can sometimes be hidden at those vendors

[mossy radish]

is this still the goal for the cargo refractor ? https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/14677-Cargo-Interaction

[crimson oak]

ive had people get it working again by checking the cargo hold of the Roc and removing one piece of gems

or something like that

just editing the cargohold seems to do something anyway

[vocal chasm]

Thx for the tip 👍

[dull acorn]

anyone looking to mine?

[crimson oak]

already mining

im addicted to quant

[opaque niche]

How's cargo going these days ladies and gents? I'm traditionally more of a bounty hunter, but keen to give it a go. I've got a ship with 456SCU and another with 174SCU, and Crusader is home if that useful info.

[worthy scroll]

I feel like cargo is in a bad place right now. Quantities are so limited it'll take forever to fill up a bigger ship. I've been doing it with my Raft (96scu), and I have to pick up some cheap stuff to fill that.

[crimson oak]

pretty much

[astral granite]

Anyone kno if they fixed the cat elevator yet?

[opaque niche]

You're just in all the chat threads Brun haha. Yeah I'd head cargo was a bit underwhelming at the moment, dissapointing given it got good again briefly didn't it?

[worthy scroll]

I can't help it, when a chat room lights up that new chat is in there, I have to click on it to make it go back to normal...

[sharp plaza]

how much money can mining make I plan to save up 50k to rent a prospector is it worth it.

how much can you make at once

[marble crater]

can't change the loadout on a rented Prospector so it's a bit hard to mine the good rocks (Quantainium) without changing the mining head

[sharp plaza]

but 2mil is kinda hard to get

[marble crater]

If you mine with a buddy you'll have a better chance of cracking rocks with 2 lasers

[sharp plaza]

but i have no friends

the only way I get a prospector is ether I save up for it with could take more then 30hrs of constant missions or some one gifs it to me witch I doubt will ever happen

[rose root]

30hrs of constant missions what the fuck.

That is SO wrong

[sharp plaza]

And that's at the most you chold make per misson at 45k per

[rose root]

Dude farming illegal surveillance missions alone is $150k per hour if your lazy

Combine that with 21k alert missions which can be done in starter ships

You'll print money

Investigation missions take 5minutes and pay out 10k too

[sharp plaza]

I was thinking of box missins

[fresh ivy]

Doing illegal monitor missions at microTech— ~10 minutes apiece, 20k per; that’s 100 of those missions for 2mil, so 1000 minutes or about 16 hours, and that’s going fairly slowly and with zero risk

[rose root]

Yeah. Combines them all for allooooot more money

[fresh ivy]

And also assume you kill zero adds for additional Call to Arms cash

[marble crater]

also offering to turret gun for someone doing group ert's is good money

[fresh ivy]

Or just finding someone looking for a laser operator for their mole

[hollow sedge]

nyone that can take me out n show me how to mine? u can have the profits

i used to have my own roc and new how to buts its been a while and roc it nowhere to be found

[raw shell]

It would probably be a lot more enlightening to look up some youtube videos on it

[hollow sedge]

na

[raw shell]

There are good ones on every type

[frozen harness]

Best qt drive for a MAX

?

[frozen harness]

I can

For sure

And I got money so I don’t need a cut

Oh wait I don’t know how to roc mine. It’s bugged

[main saddle]

Probably Crossfield if you're just looking for speed and range

[frozen harness]

Where is that sold

[main saddle]

what part of the map are you on?

Port Tressler at MT, Port Olisar at Crusader, Grim Hex, Area 18

[sick ether]

how do i turn my mining modules on

also where should i mine for quant

[main saddle]

I've had some success where the yellow circle is. Plot a course on the red line and drop out of quantum in the yellow circle. I have a Voyage QD on my Prospector. You can beeline to CRU L1 (about 19Mkm) and make it with that QD. Land without clearance to save time storing the ship.

[fierce ore]

Does anyone have a massive cargo running that I could borrow?
I'd love to make some money doing cargo runs but can't afford a ship yet 😃

[wary nexus]

you could rent a ship

[fierce ore]

Largest rental is constallation Andromeda a d that's only 96 SCU, was looking for something much higher is all :)

[crimson oak]

i dont think you can sell anything in the cargo of someone elses ship

[willow crescent]

this

or buy

[wary grove]

can someone tell me what cargo refactor really means, i know we will have physical cargo. but what kind of cargo ?

[crimson oak]

I assume cargo will be moved in physical 32 SCU sized containers like modern day real life cargo ships

[wary grove]

how does the player interact with the cargo ?

is it just boxes you transport for missions

[crimson oak]

kinda why the new xenos ship the railen is the way it is

[wary grove]

or will it be fully functional

i dont know what that it

is*

[crimson oak]

ive no idea im sure there will be smaller sized containers like the way it is now but i suspect large 32 scu sized containers will have a big part to play, all cargo haulers seem to have multiples of 32 cargo space wise

[wary grove]

will weapons ammors and med supplies also be as cargo that you can transport ?

ammo*

[crimson oak]

id assume so, probably stored in boxes youd have to pysically move instead of drag and dropping into inventory windows

[wary grove]

nicee

thats awesome not gonna lie

[crimson oak]

theres supposed to be cranes and traktor beams to help move containers like that in docking bays

[wary grove]

daamn

and thats coming to 3.17 or 18 ? Awesomee

[crimson oak]

tbh it will probably be a bit more of a pain in the arse to move stuff around 😛

[wary grove]

Joined star citizen during an exciting year

[crimson oak]

oh ive no idea when it will arrive

[wary grove]

well yea, a pain in the ass but more immersive and realistic

would give a lot of gameplay mechanics to it

[crimson oak]

it could open up more gameplay professions, if it is a proper labour, having to move stuff, if they also implement some sort of contract courier system along with it.

hire out other players to move your stuff around

[wary grove]

yeaa

and it would make supply lines and trade routes more fun and actually needed

where pirates can board you and take your cargo

or orgs cutting supplies of other orgs to cripple them and take them out easily

[crimson oak]

all thats pretty long term id imagine

id definitely love more pvp incentives

[wary grove]

well the cargo refactor not at all

its coming next year

[crimson oak]

looting cargos, salvaging ships, ransoming ships/cargo

[wary grove]

3 to 6 months

yea we need server meshes first

which is also planned for next year

[crimson oak]

that sounds optimistic to me

[wary grove]

so things are looking good

yea i mean they will probably release it a bit later

but still

we have a general idea

[crimson oak]

oh theres no shortage of that

[storm pilot]

Is there any way to claim refined minerals without a cargo hold large enough to hold the entire workorder?

[grand furnace]

should I get a roc when I have enough money and forget about any hand mining, will fit in my freelancer max

[crimson oak]

no afraid not, you can rent ships to use as a hauler though

[crimson oak]

id rent a roc first to see if you actually enjoy it, since its kinda buggy right now and you might find it awful. also yes it will fit in the freelancer max

[rose root]

Hi guys how long does it take for outpost stock to refresh?

[worthy scroll]

You can click on trading, set up some filters and look. But from what I've seen, it isn't very accurate.

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[rose root]

ty

[crimson mantle]

It seems to be every ~5-10 mins, some stock comes back

[rose root]

Thankyou

[worthy scroll]

Maybe. I've waited 20m or more before and never saw a restock.

[crimson mantle]

That's mostly because the prices are the "base" ones. The economy is dynamic, but there's not way to extract that data from the LIVE servers, so I can only offer the datamined prices 😅

[worthy scroll]

Yeah. Kinda stinks how it is, but I get why it is.

[crimson mantle]

Demand for Scrap seems to not come back at the moment

[worthy scroll]

Instead of waiting around at one place, I started just moving on to the next one instead.

[rose root]

I Have a Taurus what's good to haul? Fairly new to the supply and demand game

[terse stream]

Anyone wanna mole mine with me?

[crimson oak]

ideally laranite and agricium but realistically you're talking astatine, titanium, diamonds, distilled spirits, medical goods.

[rose root]

Thx so much

[crimson oak]

np

[royal spear]

Is there a way to increase the maximum shots my repeaters have? Will changing the Power Plant increase it?

[crimson oak]

just changing the priority on the capacitor triangle

moving it to give more priority to guns, though it will come at the cost to shield or afterburner regen

[royal spear]

Yeah figured that one out

thanks

[storm pilot]

So what's a realistic income/hour figure for mining and just selling the ore vs. refining and hauling. I assume since this game is pretty close to peak nerd that it's been fairly exhaustively kept up with for each patch?

[acoustic garnet]

when all the mining and refining ships are in the game, with a Group / Company doing it, it will be profitable, if you are prospecting solo in the Prospector, in the Arron Halo Belt i have an Avg haul of 25k per hour but have made upwards of 120K per hour finding Rare Materials

[storm pilot]

Oh wow so it's not even remotely viable vs contracts right now.

[acoustic garnet]

untill you have the best equipment Prospect mining doesnt net good returns

like a stock Prospector i would be lucky to get 12k per hour

[storm pilot]

(outside the obvious massive bugs in missions)

[acoustic garnet]

and a Stock Mule return even with a full crew didnt net much profit when you split the returns fairly

and also with 30K and what not all Mining / Cargo is High Risk High Reward

also if you mine cirtant unstable Ore's and you dont refine it in time you loose everything in your haul

[storm pilot]

Yeah I knew about the quantanium thing, but I'm not there yet.

And honestly if that's how bad it is at the moment that's pretty disappointing. I hope they're going to have some new stuff on that front soon.

[acoustic garnet]

Bounty's / mercenary for good/ bad , Claim Jump. and Illegal Claim Jumps are the money makers in terms of ship combat

so that s what i do

[odd snow]

I disagree. If you are picky with what you pickup I regularly can pull ~100k - 200k aUEC per hour in a prospector with quantanium.

If you have a mole you can do even better (albiet at the cost of stress). Sure sometimes I only come back with 80k, but then sometimes, like last night, I picked up a rock that once refined will pay me close to 500k aUEC.

My AVERAGE run over the past 9 runs in the mole is 223,238 aUEC

prospector would likely be 50% - 60% of that

on average.

[limpid badge]

I make like 300-500k per hour in a prospector, depending on RNG

Gotta know how to fly and what you're doing though, it's a bit knowledge based

Best place for quant mining I've found is the halo.

biggest time investment is scouting for rocks, so that's what you should focus on getting better at

[odd snow]

I never had that much luck in the halo. Or in the prospector for that matter. Even a FULL load of quant is only worth 275k aUEC, and thats assuming you pickup 100% quant and nothing else... how can you possibly manage to average TWO full loads of pure quant in an hour?

[limpid badge]

halo is pretty rich, finding a suitable rock in 10-15 min is pretty common. Like I said, some of that is RNG, like when you drop out and the first rock is a 30%+, but you can minimize the time you waste when searching a lot as well

fly at 300-350 m/s, dont stop for 1 or 3 rock clusters, dont waste time at rocks you can't scan, etc

make sure you fly the prospector in pitch at all times and put all power to engines. It recharges its boost really fast and it's actually pretty zippy if you know what you're doing. The faster you can fly, the more ground you'll cover, the higher the odds of finding a good rock.

[crimson oak]

jesus dude i think you're doing it wrong. I make like 200k every 20-40mins on average. Solo on a Prospector mining Quant on Lyria.

[acoustic garnet]

i prefer space mining

[torpid mesa]

is there a trick to roc mining

it keeps swirling around the mining head when i try to extract it

[main saddle]

I noticed that on my last ROC run on 3.15. I tried not to extract too many at once. They would swirl around but eventually get sucked in after a few seconds. Try to grab too many and they would spin around and even get tossed and scattered.

So if a bunch are lying on the ground, I just start from one side and very slowly sweep across, trying to get 2-3 at a time.

[crimson oak]

i much prefer space mining as well but unfortunately right now that comes with a lot of ghost rocks and less concentrations of quant compared to places like Lyria. I still hit up Aarons halo now and again though none the less, when it does work its just so much more convenient cracking rocks in space.

[crimson oak]

Ive read about people checking the cargo hold of the roc and editing it, like taking a piece out of the cargo, then it extracts fine. I don't know why but it seems to work for people.

[sly copper]

Any guide on upgrading my prospector for quicker QT?

[devout thistle]

erkul.games

[devout thistle]

head there and find the prospector

[odd snow]

Yep. Use that site to find the balance between speed and distance capability to suit your needs.

[crimson oak]

I use a Class A Military drive, VK-0 i think.

[hollow sedge]

whats the best qt for freelancer max

[sly copper]

Thanks

[odd snow]

@hollow sedge check the site mentioned above.

[thin escarp]

@storm pilot i average around 600k a run in my mole every 30 ish minutes. in a prospector i'm doing 200k+ every 25 minutes solo

i dont sell unrefined. its just to little money compared to selling refined.

i only mess with quantanium though.

i would completely ignore the dude who said 12-30k average run

I also have 2 videos and a mining guide for this patch i can send you to help you out

[delicate girder]

Now that we can sell scrap in 3.16 is it worth the time?

I guess I should also ask, is there any hauling which is more worth the than before in 3.16?

[crimson oak]

scrap is bugged again so i'd still avoid it

no real changes to trading in 3.16

[delicate girder]

Any of the changes in 3.16 affect cargo and mining? I looked at the patch notes and didn't see anything about mining gadgets. I thought that was supposed to be in 3.16.

[crimson oak]

no not really

they were supposed to fix some scan bugs but they haven't really

the only real difference 3.16 has made that I have noticed is that bounties are now playable again

[delicate girder]

Yes, that's what I'd really like to see fixed!!!

[crimson oak]

mining and trade is pretty much the exact same

[delicate girder]

Guess it's all about Jumptown 2 right now I bet. Haven't gotten in. Will tonight.

[crimson oak]

yeah JT is quite popular, causing a lot of drama, player interaction on the whole as intended

[delicate girder]

Does JT2 have any kind of passive income like the XT did (which turned out to suck)?

[crimson oak]

no not really, any income is pro-active, you have to gather these drug containers, which spawn every 30 seconds or so, an infinite amount of times

each will get you about 17.5k credits when cashed in

[delicate girder]

I assume that getting the containers is PvP and you have to fight for them?

[crimson oak]

rarely on the whole, most people cooperate to farm the place

but there are moments when player orgs kinda take it over and it provokes fights

or solo individuals might camp it and kill on sight

or suicide bombers just dive in on the place

but most of the time its just random players running in and out grabbing a few boxes, without any interaction.

[delicate girder]

Can you only cary out one container at a time?

[crimson oak]

yep, through two air locks

most use the traktor beam on multitools

but one crate at a time

[delicate girder]

Sounds like it could be lucrative.

[crimson oak]

oh it absolutely is

assuming people work together or you find a dead server at 5 in the morning

[midnight egret]

Can the Mole the subs got mine as is (solo, getting out of seat) or does it need attachments to be able to mine.

?

[urban flame]

gonna take me forever to save for a prospect lmao

[hollow sedge]

what are good moons for mining with roc?

[delicate girder]

Do package missions, merc satellite missions, bounties, JT2. Lots of way to get the money for a Prospector fairly quickly.

[delicate girder]

I like Arial as I recall. I haven't done it lately though.

[hollow sedge]

ok thank you

[delicate girder]

If I remember correctly, I liked Arial because it's flatter and you need to be flying very close to the ground to find the gem deposits.

[thin escarp]

@hollow sedge aberdeen also solid

high amount of hadanite

[odd snow]

Yes you can mine with it as is. Not the best setup, but certainly capable.

[odd snow]

If you want you can go mining with me and I'll split the profits your way after expenses are deducted.

[subtle cradle]

Do package missions just 700 times and you can buy a prospector

If you unlock the 8,000 aUEC package missions it's only 260 times you'll have to do them.
That's just around 44 hours of package deliveries, assuming they don't bug out (which they sometimes do)

[analog field]

Mole is fun but man it sucks finding unscannable rocks in it

So tedious to use solo lol

[odd snow]

Yup

Love it when you find a big ass rock and can get it all though!

I wish it had auto hover or something. That'd fix a lot of issues I have solo mining in the mole. Storms come through and it's a constant battle of breaking rocks and going back up to reposition.

[analog field]

Oh i space mine in it! Hard to find good rocks but no drift

Have seen 50% quant rocks that i couldn't crack though

[sonic laurel]

Unlock the 45k ones with call to arms active and you only need 40 runs or so

[subtle cradle]

There's 45k ones? 😮

Is that Ling Family?

[sonic laurel]

and red wing once you hit level 2 with them

[subtle cradle]

Nice. Well better get grinding then, I enjoy package deliveries once in a while

[trail lily]

How much aUEC/hour can you make on average with a prospector mining quantanium and refining it?

[subtle cradle]

Will a Reliant Kore do well for those missions @sonic laurel ?

[wild nacelle]

A full load gets you about 270,000. How many per hour is down to luck. 1 or 2 maybe

[subtle cradle]

In average I probably just make 270k an hour including scanning, mining and delivery times.
On good day I can make a million per hour though

[rustic needle]

when i land at a spot where i buy commodities it doesn't let me selcect my ship. does anyone know why?

[trail lily]

Sheeesh

Million per hour damn

[subtle cradle]

No math is shit

3 runs of 270k so 810K sorry @trail lily

[trail lily]

per hour?

[sonic laurel]

anything that can hold some boxes. They are bunker missions where you go into the bunker and retrieve the box.

[subtle cradle]

Yes but not average. On a good day @trail lily

[trail lily]

Aight ty

[sonic laurel]

I personally fly my Nomad

[subtle cradle]

Oh no. How many different places does the boxes need to be delivered? And is it just 1 bunker or multiple?

[sonic laurel]

1 box one bunker

[subtle cradle]

Oh okay that's pretty good. Does the Ling family give those missions as well?

[analog field]

Sucks you can't split work orders or I would be more open to repro

[sonic laurel]

I believe so

[subtle cradle]

Cheers mate

[sonic laurel]

np

I mostly just do the 890 jump mission and missing crew

[subtle cradle]

I mostly do bounties and mining, but i need something else

[hollow sedge]

ok i got a roc full of mining stuff. where can i sell it?

[analog field]

I believe the mining outposts

[hollow sedge]

any outpost that has mining in the name?

[bright star]

pretty much

[hollow sedge]

ok thanks

[subtle cradle]

HDMS-whatever in Hurston

[undone socket]

is roc mining fixed this patch or still have world wind effect when extracting?

[primal flame]

Is there any hard data on rock mass/resistance and working out if a laser can/cannot break said rock without having to try to crack in the first place?

[spare pewter]

Do trade routes change or do they stay the same all the time

[quiet night]

What would be a good ship for hauling? Freelaancer max or the connie tarus for the bigger loads?

[hollow sedge]

I prefer the freelancer max for hauling

[spice wyvern]

freelancer Max at the moment with the Bugged doors, I had to reset character as could not close the cargo bay

on the taurus

[charred mantle]

I love my Taurus

[quiet night]

only thing that really puts me off it is i hate how it looks lol

[raw shell]

I love the MAX

[narrow oak]

can anyone teach me how to mine ive never done it before and i dont have a ship for it

[spice wyvern]

@narrow oak its the same principle for all mining, hand roc or ship.

[narrow oak]

@spice wyvern ive never done that ether

[spice wyvern]

I'm trying to find what I searched youtube and it was a proper hand holding guide really good

[narrow oak]

ok

[spice wyvern]

A Guide to Mining with the MISC Prospector [Star Citizen, Patch 3.15.1 - 2021]

this ones not to bad a guide

[narrow oak]

ok

[spice wyvern]

what ship do you have to start with?

[narrow oak]

countly nothing at the moment i was going to reant one

[spice wyvern]

I don't think you can upgrade the rented ships components

[narrow oak]

dose it mattter that mutch?

till i can get one

[spice wyvern]

depends on what your looking to mine and remember some things like Quantanium explode if not got to a refinery quickly

[narrow oak]

ye

@spice wyvern were is a good place to start mining

[spice wyvern]

I actually learnt how to mine in the prison, and not really found it to be much fun its more time consuming than bounty hunting for similar rewards until you get good at quantanium mining

[narrow oak]

ok

[spice wyvern]

some people can make 800K an hour mining

[devout thistle]

What's the reset timers on Laranite?

[icy canyon]

my ship randomly exploded in the middle of a delivery mission but my packages are okay, can i still complete the mission if i force respawn?

[odd snow]

@narrow oak I can teach you. I'd suggest renting a prospector and mining everything that is high value (Bexalite, Taranite, Borase, Laranite, Agricium) at first. Quantanium has the highest return, but it's a little more advanced. You can blow yourself up if you aren't careful.

Lots of mining guides on YouTube. Here's a good one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfgIp_ByeJc

[grand furnace]

when I start mining does it matter what I mine as a beginner

[raw shell]

well, don't go for quantanium right off. Everything else is probably fine. You want to learn the mechanics of mining first

[grand furnace]

yeh few more jobs should have enough to buy the roc

[surreal compass]

Finally worked up enough aUEC via mining to buy a C2 Herc. Any suggestions on how I should use it? All that cargo space must be good for trading

[odd snow]

It’s such a PITA that the surge modules aren’t available in more places

Like seriously, probably the most used module and its only available in 3 places…

[hollow sedge]

What consumables do I need for Quant mining

[lapis bridge]

The surge modules i'm buying at PO aren't showing up in the local inventory. I'm in my Titan and wanna transport some to CRU L1.. Any workarounds?

[cursive drift]

Can still put mining heads on rented prospectors?

[odd snow]

dont think so

@lapis bridge not sure, I buy several at HUR-L1 and put them in ship inventory to take back to home base.

actually enroute right now to get more

cause i crashed and wasted all mine running from pirates.

ran into a damn asteroid

[lapis bridge]

I'm new and didnt know inventory has multiple pages, i thought it was an infinite scroll down. They were on the second page lol

[odd snow]

nice

[loud mirage]

i the caterpillar elevator bugged?

[odd snow]

yep

[loud mirage]

well f that

[deft relic]

hello everyone

[loud mirage]

gues im hauling in an other ship then

[deft relic]

i minning with the hand tool

[odd snow]

Sup dale

[deft relic]

now i pickup and store all my diamant in my bag.

how i can sale now

i cant transform my diamant in package

[odd snow]

I always went to a station, go to the admin office, and use the trade console in there

[deft relic]

also if i have all my diamant in my bag?

[odd snow]

Should be fine

[deft relic]

i cant anymore transform the diamant in box?

[odd snow]

You mean refine?

[deft relic]

no. store all commodities

[odd snow]

I never could get it to work

I just threw them all on the floor or in a backpack

You can leave them on the floor of your ship cargo area and store it when you get to a station and you will be able to select your ship in the console

[deft relic]

ok. or i have go direct in the admin office with my backpack

[odd snow]

Yep, either one’

[deft relic]

ok. what is better? leave in the cargo or backpack?

[odd snow]

Cargo holds more

[deft relic]

ok. leave them on the floor

[odd snow]

I say you skip it and come mine with me on Lyria. 🙂

[deft relic]

good idea but not today. its late for me here in switzerland. maybe another day?

[odd snow]

K

[loud mirage]

anyone up for some cargo hauling

[odd snow]

Like what?

[loud mirage]

legal stuf

[odd snow]

How much can you make?

[loud mirage]

depends on how much you can put in but in general about 25 to 30k for every 100k you put in

[odd snow]

Gotcha’

I better stick with mining

[loud mirage]

kk i have only done mining in one of the turrets on a mole and didnt like it

[odd snow]

Yep, in a mole right now. Good money

[lapis bridge]

What's the % of quant in an asteroid that's acceptable and can fill my prospector? With like 4.5k mass

[deft relic]

why i can sell dolivine and aphorite?

i cant sell

[odd snow]

Station may be full?

[deft relic]

how i can reconize?

[odd snow]

Are they red?

[deft relic]

wait

red?

i cant see red

[odd snow]

I dunno

[deft relic]

i thing in area 18 i cant sell them

wich better place can i sell better

[sly copper]

Any ideas why my prospector isn't scanning

[thin escarp]

@sly copper define

isnt scanning

are you in space or on a moon

[sly copper]

It won't scan rocks in space

[lapis bridge]

Damn found 2 quant rocks, 48% and 37% next to each other

[torpid needle]

can i mine laranite with a rented prospector?

[thin escarp]

@sly copper its probably a ghost rock

super common in space

i'd just mine on lyria. nearly 0 ghost rocks on moons

[mild pumice]

delivery missions still not working then 😦

[glacial dagger]

Is it the right box?

[mild pumice]

boxes 1&2 dropped ok just not the last

yeah it was the 3rd box

someone else said the covex machine wouldn't take their box so must've been a server issue

[glacial dagger]

Are you walking away/moving at all straight after placing the box?

[mild pumice]

might have this time I usually wait until it accepts it

[grand furnace]

should I avoid delivery missions, I just did a trial one but that was only 1 box

[glacial dagger]

Box missions dont really pay too much off the bat, but there are 45k missions for boxes

[grand furnace]

well I am doing anything I can to get money for the roc

[worthy scroll]

Box missions can be really buggy right now, dispensers spitting out the same box over and over, dispensers not accepting boxes, shelves not accepting boxes, boxes becoming unusable.

The only ones that consistently work for me are the single box ones, the quantum sensitive around Hurston. Pays 20k, but can take a while. You need to fly out of atmo then circle the planet.

[marble crater]

Halt Illegal Surveillance missions are a pretty good source of starter money

[hollow sedge]

looking for someone to do cargo/delivery missions with message if interested

[odd snow]

@torpid needle yep. You can mine any minable rocks. The fact that it’s rented doesn’t limit it’s capability other than swapping heads.

[crystal quartz]

Anyone know if the medical supplies to ninetails is worth it?

[vapid dirge]

if u got the cargo space yes

oh wait

i know you

[crystal quartz]

?

[vapid dirge]

just remember fighting you in game

[crystal quartz]

Don't remember you

[vestal shoal]

do i have to buy the medical supplies and sell them at Cru L4 for the illegal blockade event?

[delicate girder]

Is Nine Tails medical hauling viable/profitable? If it's only profitable in a big ship, what size ship?

[delicate girder]

When you get to that 45k mission is it for delivering one box ... or how many steps are there if not? How much opposition do you encounter on that one?

[astral granite]

How to get into caterpillar 3.16 PU

[subtle cradle]

Lol

You should be able to parkour the landing gear somewhere

[astral granite]

Landing gear is nocollided

Literally run str8 thru it

[scarlet rover]

Ship doors and ramps are having trouble in 3.16, supposedly it has made the Cat unusable. One player reported RSI is offering loaners to Cat owners in the meantime - I don't own one so can't confirm.

[odd snow]

Yep. The I’ve had the mole get damage and it won’t let me lower the elevator to get back in it. Have to claim a different ship then crash it into the mole to blow it up so I can claim a new one.

[ruby moth]

100% accurate. Cat owners have a C2 and a black as a loaner for now

[crimson oak]

How much is the mole to buy ingame anyone know?

[odd snow]

Little over 5m

[crimson oak]

tnx

[thin escarp]

5.1 mil

another then roughly 170k for the lasers.

def get a x1

thats another 93k

[rose root]

hard to buy laranite atm, is everyone just doing cargo running?

[devout thistle]

This event is crazy for cargo running.

[rose root]

guys which mining laser modules for Quant, Lancet and what passive mods do u use?

[jolly igloo]

Is there a bug with scanner where it wont scan a rock?

[hollow sedge]

anybody near lyria SAL-2? could need help with a 7820 44% rock

[jolly igloo]

I dm helping, if you can tell me where SAL-2 is, cannot see it on a cap

map*

@hollow sedge

[brazen trench]

What's the difference between a passive and module?

[crimson oak]

passive works all the time, active modules you gotta manually activate them to get the benefits

the shortcuts are usually alt+1, 2, 3

they usually only work a short period as well

[old badger]

anywhere to sell scrap today?

[glacial dagger]

Dont, scrap is still kinda broken

[hoary monolith]

I currently have ~500k aUEC. Should I get a ROC and start mining or grind illegal surveillance missions to buy a prospector?

[crimson mantle]

Try to go prospect for a few rocks, see how you like that first

As in, try to find ROC minables

Just to see if ROC mining is for you 🙂

[subtle cradle]

The roc costs nothing to rent. I'd try that first.
Personally I find ROC mining incredibly tedious and I'm sure I could make more money grinding Illegal surveillance

[urban flame]

Anyone going to answer this? I have the same question

[hoary monolith]

I've already done ROC mining back in 3.13

[loud mural]

Yeah roc mining is very frustrating for me

[odd snow]

I’ve come to the conclusion that mining for quant in the halo sucks. No rhyme or reason for where it spawns. Spend too much time looking.

[odd snow]

Depends on what ship. Prospector I use a FLTR-XL. Mole I don’t use any passive, only surge and stampede

[urban flame]

Prospector

[odd snow]

Then there ya go, FLTRXL is what i run for passive

[coral phoenix]

hi can you help me with a question, I run out of time with the medical cargo mission, and i dont knwo the cargo will be remain if i log out and only come back when the next event started? or the server switch clear my cargo and safer to sold the supplies now

[stiff tangle]

can someone tell me if i can do another mining run while there are minerals beeing refined?

[subtle cradle]

You can and you should

[worthy scroll]

You can. Keep stacking your refining jobs in there.

[subtle cradle]

Fill the refinery up with work orders, fill up a big cargo ship when alot is done and sell it at TDD

[stiff tangle]

so once its done i need a ship to: refinery>ship>selling terminal?

[worthy scroll]

Yep

[subtle cradle]

You store your cargo ship at the station and transfer the refinery job from the refinery terminal to the cargo ship

[worthy scroll]

Mining basically requires two ships now, one to mine with, and one to transfer/sell with.

[lapis bridge]

Guys whats a good spot for quant mining? I’ve done several runs in the aaron halo, and its seems good. Takes like 15-20 mins to find a decent % quant asteroid. Is there any place better?

[subtle cradle]

That sounds pretty good tbh

[lapis bridge]

Yea it’s like 30 mins total with the road and actual mining

[subtle cradle]

Lately the yela belt has been dissappointing to me. It can take anywhere between 1 - 60 min. to find a decent quantanium rock.
I've started mining other stuff as it is less stressful and you don't HAVE to wait for that 20%+ rock

[lapis bridge]

Yea i feel bad when i have to pass on a 15%

And also missing those clusters that are unscannable with potential quant there

[subtle cradle]

It just turns into a race and constantly calculating your hourly rate. That's not what I wanna do anymore lol. I just mine on lyria for agricium (spelling?), laranite, taranite and whenever a quantanium rock turns up it's just a bonus

[lapis bridge]

Well im new and i wanna buy my next ship, so i dunno what else can give this much money

[crimson oak]

just wait until midnight and the event will be up again, keep the ship there at cru-l5

check #general-news for the timers on the vent

event

[subtle cradle]

Quan mining has been shitty for me. If you can mine 270k worth every half hour average you're doing pretty good imo

[crimson oak]

Lyria is pretty awesome for quant.

[lapis bridge]

And where do you go to refine?

[opaque niche]

Has anyone done the 9T med delivery mission? Any issues getting stock, and was the pay good?
@worthy scroll

[lapis bridge]

I got like 1.5k profit from getting 8 SCUs there and 8k mission bonus

But the first 2 outposts i tried to get supplies from were out of it

[opaque niche]

That sucks, was hoping to fill at least a Connie.

Or even a cutlass...

[lapis bridge]

I think you can, i only did 8 because i was flying the Titan

[opaque niche]

Still only 33k profit for a Taurus load + 8k for the mission bonus.

It's like they don't even want people to do it haha...

[crimson oak]

ARC-L1

[crimson oak]

if you have the mission accepted, there doesn't seem to be a limit to the medical supplies you can buy, so you can fill up a cargo ship and get very good bonus pay for the mission.

[opaque niche]

So you reckon I could fill 456 SCU and make 85k + bonuses?

[opaque niche]

Was it 1k bonus per SCU?

Cause that could get crazy...

War profiteering never looked so good

[lapis bridge]

Nope, total

[opaque niche]

Yeah but 1k x 8SCU would be the 8k bonus you got paid

Might do a dry run in a cutlass

[crimson oak]

oh yeah, likely a lot more than that.

there were 3 C2's queueing to land at hickes research outpost earlier lol

i reckon they'll nerf that pretty soon

[lapis bridge]

I bought the supplies for 13.5k , 8 SCUs, sold them at terminal for 15k. Then the mission completed, dialogue something, and 8k awarded from mission

[opaque niche]

You get attacked at all on the way in?

[delicate girder]

It looks like the NT lasts about 6 or 7 hours maybe? Does that sound right?

[exotic bane]

I was making about 800k profit from full c2 supply runs

That's with the 696k bonus

[delicate girder]

You were actually able to fille a C2?

[opaque niche]

Right, so it is 1k per SCU

[delicate girder]

Hwo many times were you able to do that?

[exotic bane]

Meds spawn faster during the event it seems

[lapis bridge]

Nope, the QT stopped about 180km away, then straight flying to landing pad

[exotic bane]

Did 3 runs last night and one today

[opaque niche]

Do you have to wait until the combat portion starts? Or just once the video messages start popping up?

[lapis bridge]

damn nice

[delicate girder]

Could you typically buy it all in one buy or did ya have do multiple buys?

[exotic bane]

I started when the lockdown started, not sure on exact timing. One full buy at a time. Two c2s filled up from one refresh at Hickes

Also has journal alerts about overstock

The buy in is like 1.1mil so can be risky with the pvp

[delicate girder]

I assume the overstock alerts will not come for a site unless it has the stock at that time.

[opaque niche]

Yeah 770k to fill my carrack, spicy

[delicate girder]

Carracks are like 400 ish SCUs right?

[opaque niche]

Might be safer to use the Connie T

[opaque niche]

456

Pretty good for a non hauler

[delicate girder]

Why you say safer in a Connie? Than a Carrack?

[lapis bridge]

Awesome

Damn i'm thinking of renting a cargo ship so i can get in on this haha

[exotic bane]

buy-in

[delicate girder]

I have two accounts. I'm thinking about starting my other account in Area 18 for it's home. Anyone done that and like it? I usually pick Loreville because it's more central to the system.

[stiff tangle]

one question, once i get my ore refined, where do i sell it?

[lapis bridge]

is freelancer the biggest freighter i can rent?

[crimson oak]

Lasts for 6hrs, next one starts in 4hrs 15mins

[crimson oak]

any major city has a TDD, a trade room like a stock exchange.

[crimson oak]

I believe the Constellation Andromeda is the highest cargo of the rentable ships, expensive to rent though.

[lapis bridge]

Worth it for this event thou, no?

Do i lose the cargo in a stored ship if i claim it somewhere else?

[opaque niche]

Yes

[radiant torrent]

Whats the state of trading in 3.16?

Is it very profitable?

[devout thistle]

Tell me when you find some Laranite

[opaque niche]

Just less risk in any one trip.
Could equally take the carrack half full I guess, as the carrack has bigger shields.

[devout thistle]

go balls to the wall and take a full C2/M2

[opaque niche]

Last question; do you get the bonus straight away or have to wait for the event to end?

[exotic bane]

bonus is a second or so after selling @opaque niche and you get it per sale, can repeat

[stiff tangle]

does someone know how to dim the hud brightness or something? i cant read shit on the prospector

[raw shell]

nah, it's awful

there are times it is really obvious the developers don't play this game

[urban flame]

lowering your monitor brightness helps apparently

[delicate girder]

LOL! Tell me if you find that feature! Oh, and some damn windex for the Bucc!

[opaque niche]

If it's all as it seems from this thread, then you'd pay for the rental in one run... Given the event lasts for a couple of hours should be able to do at least two.

[delicate girder]

Yep. The rental of a Connie should be paid in one go.

Right now I'm trying to afford a C2 with enough cash to buy the meds too.

Estimate of how much to buy a full hold of meds on a C2?

[crimson oak]

1.2m

[scarlet rover]

https://uexcorp.space/

[scarlet rover]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[delicate girder]

or Gallog too I guess.

The uexcorp.space one is new to me maybe. Interesting.

[scarlet rover]

Looks like Med Supplies are trending down currently, likely due to increased activity from the event. But I've heard the bonuses more than make up for it.

[delicate girder]

Trending down as in less profits?

The profits from the meds don't really matter that much.

[scarlet rover]

yeah. that's what I just said about bonuses. if you have trade tools why are you asking people to tell you what the prices are?

[delicate girder]

Just asking in case someone had done it several times and had it fresh in their mind. If you don't then just ignore it and don't bi!ch about it.

[scarlet rover]

you can say bitch

[delicate girder]

hehe

[scarlet rover]

lol

Well ty for the Gallog tool, I wasn't aware of that one!

[delicate girder]

I just sensored it to be sure.

I like Gallog the best so far.

[scarlet rover]

does it have a route mapping tool? I'm trying to navigate the site now

[delicate girder]

The best way to use Gallog is to just go to the commodities I think.

[worthy scroll]

I just got home from work so idk yet.

[delicate girder]

It's not running yet I think. Couple hours. Let me know if I'm wrong.

[scarlet rover]

ooh I like how it shows the locations

[opaque niche]

Was asking on behalf of both of us haha. Have a look up the chain for answers.

[delicate girder]

Anyone choose Area 18 for thier home in 3.16? If so, do you like it?

[opaque niche]

Meant to start in 2 hours but seems like it's always late... Was 2 hours 20 late for me yesterday.

[worthy scroll]

I have A18 as my current home. I only use A18 or Lorville.

[delicate girder]

Yeah NB is a nice place to visit during shows, but that's it and I get free tickets to GimHex other ways!

Orison is an only go there is you have to place for me.

So I think I'll have one of my accounts residing in Area 18 and one in Loreville. Problem solved.

[crimson mantle]

Let me know if you want some pointers on how to use the website 🙂

[delicate girder]

I wasn't trying to sell the other site over yours. I like yours too for other reasons. 😉

[worthy scroll]

Asking for clarity, a stored ship retains it's cargo, right?

First time ever doing this.

[raw shell]

Yes it does

[worthy scroll]

Thanks. I'm taking a couple ships to stock up for the event.

[raw shell]

I've never participated in the 9 tails event before. Basically, do I look for a medical supplies mission, fill up my biggest cargo ship with medical supplies, then try to fly to whatever station is blockaded and sell at the admin terminal?

guessing from the previous question, you can pre-fill ships?

[worthy scroll]

I heard people talking about prefilling yesterday, so that's what I spent a couple hours doing. Now I'm just waiting on the missions to start.

[raw shell]

have you done the event before? Is that what you do, get some kind of mission then fly to the station that's blocked and sell at the admin office?

[worthy scroll]

This is my first time so 🤷

[raw shell]

ah ok 🙂 same boat then. I can't imagine it would go down any other way

[raw shell]

what's special about Hickes?

[worthy scroll]

Dunno, but it is one of the places to buy medical supplies.

[raw shell]

mostly out of stock from what I've seen. Can't even fill up a max

are those research stations to buy meds linked?

[worthy scroll]

It took me 3 stops to fill my Aquila, and 7 stops to fill my Raft.

Sorry for the link bomb, but...

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Constellation%2520Aquila%2522,%2522investment%2522:300000,%2522depositType%2522:%2522Spaceship%2522,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%2522Medical%2520Supplies%2522%255D,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522,%2522locationTypes%2522:%255B%2522Asteroid%2520field%2522%255D,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%2522Stanton%2520%253E%2520Crusader%2520%253E%2520Yela%2520%253E%2520Grim%2520HEX%2522,%2522Stanton%2520%253E%2520Crusader%2520%253E%2520Yela%2520%253E%2520Grim%2520HEX%2520%253E%2520Admin%2522%255D%257D

[crimson mantle]

Alternatively 😄
https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Medical Supplies

[hoary monolith]

What planet/moon, altitude and speed works best for finding ROC mineables? I know ROC mining is bad this patch, but its relaxing while my wrist heals enough to do combat...

[crimson mantle]

https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Ground%2520vehicle%2522,%2522locationTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%255D%257D

Way slow, way low 😅

[hoary monolith]

I've been flying between 1000 and 1500 meters (scalping prairie dog height on Aberdeen) at ~50m/s - is that slow and low enough?

[opaque niche]

anyone know where to sell med suppies for 9 tails?

admin screens not working...

[crimson mantle]

It's been a while, but I think you'll need to be much lower

[crimson mantle]

With the mission accepted, it should be at any blockaded station 😕

[opaque niche]

but where in the sttation?

admin screens?\

[hoary monolith]

I'm already needing to dodge boulders/hills

[worthy scroll]

Ha, yeah, it's just what I already had pulled up so I figured why not 😄

[raw shell]

so 120k bonus for a full delivery in my max... meh, should have went mining

[worthy scroll]

I have two full ships ready to go, so all I have to do is run them there.

[raw shell]

good luck! I just had two ships fire missles at me flying in, didn't hit me though

launched counter-measures

[nocturne edge]

This may sound counterintuitive, but I'd actually suggest flying faster while still keeping to a low altitude. You cover more ground that way and have a higher probability of pinging a ROC mineable. This video helped a lot: https://youtu.be/cVMbZsk_IdU

Before, I used to do the "low and slow" method as is often recommended, but since ROC mineables got harder to ping, I found that to be much less effective now. Slightly higher speed and staying low has worked out better for me so far

[hoary monolith]

Thanks

[nocturne edge]

Hope it helps! Good luck 👍

[open pebble]

Can't seem to offload my med supplies in the ninetails event

There's literally a line in the admin office because the demand has run dry lol

[native jewel]

its broke like usual

[worthy scroll]

Severs seem to have had a seizure, people can't buy or sell.

[native jewel]

0 QA

[open pebble]

As a backer, you are the QA

[stiff tangle]

once my ore is refined do i have to go sell it all in one go?

like one run per work order or can i dose it to do multiple runs

[scarlet rover]

it's not broken. it's oversupplied.

All commodities are shared across all severs in the PU. The more people sell of an item, the lower its price drops and the less demand at the locations where its being sold

basic economics

[subtle cradle]

It's sad how shit trading is at the moment

[narrow fractal]

Morning, should i be able to break a 6k mass with my lancet and surge on prospector?

[rose root]

Trading is still crazy profitable for almost zero effort and risk man.

Laranite is always good returns

[torn moss]

there is something wrong with my main scan, ive been watching some YT vids where they scan one of those 10km away boxes and they get an overview with how many rocks there are in that location, each rock representing 5k signature, but on my scan nothing ever shows up, and only just gives me a white "overview"

[loud mural]

man running cargo is fucking garbage

[rose root]

Haul Laranite. Print Cash.

Easy. Way more running bounties but cargo is super relaxing

[thin escarp]

@torn moss are you holding left click in scan mode really close to the rocks?

[torn moss]

yea not about that im talking about the further away boxes not the actual signature of the rock when close by

the main scan

[loud mural]

can you guys recomment some actually working trading tools ?

[thin escarp]

trading is very sus. hit or miss.

[loud mural]

most tools don't get the price even close to reality

[thin escarp]

i'd stay away from the really good shit

yeah

[loud mural]

i found one where you can report price change

and i did a report : 30 minutes later no response

[thin escarp]

@torn moss kinda confused on what you are saying. are you talking the lil rock icons?

those show up at under 4500 out

[loud mural]

i think he's talking about older version of the game

[thin escarp]

yeah

[torn moss]

I am talking about before the 5000 out scan

[thin escarp]

it wont show the rock icons until under 4500 to see how many rocks there is.

where are you looking?

[torn moss]

ah ok

[thin escarp]

what moon you on

[torn moss]

lydia

[weary quarry]

Good morning all. Does anyone else have the same issue as me , when mining in the Mole it drops towards the planet , then goes back up again and also constant wobbling ?

[thin escarp]

desync

it happens to us all

[weary quarry]

It scares me sometimes !! 😂

Also if I put 3 filters on the Mole would that give me 60% less inert or not

[thin escarp]

yeas

if on same laser

[weary quarry]

Great thankyou

[loud mural]

what's a good upgrade from the cutlass for cargo ?

[rose root]

Taurus. Starts and ends with Taurus

[pliant matrix]

Freelancer max is also a solution