industrial-professions

[main saddle]

1/3 the processing time and almost the same profit

[crisp bison]

@ruby moth thanks. worked

[obtuse raft]

hows the ganking trolling? i got killed twice now by some random guys.

cant imagine losing all my mining gear

[thin escarp]

i usually have a scout that doubles as security.

but during major operations we def have a presence in case of griefers or pirates.

[obtuse raft]

yea that could suck

[amber sierra]

Need to get some friends so I can actually have cover, solo mining in a Mole is profitable but nerve-wracking at times XD

[obtuse raft]

lol yea i didnt know they could that until just a coupole days ago

[scarlet rover]

It depends whether you need a faster turnaround on the product.
Ferron is almost the same yield for 1/3 the time, but costs more than double the capital to initiate

[obtuse raft]

kinda wish they put two servers like ed. one where its a choice.

[royal spear]

What QD do people use on the C2?

[main saddle]

Here's one I did for Hephaestanite. Check out the net loss for XCR Reaction 😄

[royal spear]

That suggests that XCR is actually worse than selling unprocessed

[main saddle]

For Heph, yeah -- at least for the quantities and prices given me at the time.

[fresh ivy]

did some casual mining to unwind, did not expect a couple of prospector loads to hit 350k

Looking forward to the two "we actually tried" Mole loads my buddy and I put together last night

[main saddle]

that's like my last mining trip. was just gonna tool around and then came across a 47% quant asteroid and end up making 267K from that.

[frozen harness]

I can’t crack rocks lmao

Send help

I’ve got a lancet, surge, stampede and reiger

Can’t crack 7k rocks

[glacial dagger]

If your using a Prospector, yh, they can't really crack bigger than about 5k

[main saddle]

oh man...i just had to leave a complete Prospector load behind because I was full: quant. Cracked 2 asteroids and they were all 100% chunks both were over 35% i think one was 4600 and the other 4800

now to see if I can make the 19MKm trip lol

[glacial dagger]

Doubt

[main saddle]

woohoo, made it

i've done 18M before, but not 19M

never ask for clearance, lol

Welp... my best haul yet. I think I'll plug all the numbers into my spreadsheet to see what the different refining methods will yield

[main saddle]

Analysis of Prospector 100% load Quantainium Refining Cost/Profit/Time at CRU-L1

[frozen harness]

I just exploded randomly with multiple torrent 3 and focus 3 modules on me

Rip my life like 200k gone

[main saddle]

ew.. i haven't really gotten into using the modules

i'll eventually get the one that reduces inert though

i had one before the wipe

[hoary monolith]

Is there any cargo worth hauling in a cutty black?

or is it too small?

[worthy scroll]

For current cargo it isn't really worth it, but once we get cargo missions it will be.

[ruby moth]

can definitely do it. not a BIG payout, but for a change of pace go for it

[subtle cradle]

Not even drugs?

[glacial dagger]

Ayy, nice one. Mind if I steal this?

[main saddle]

have at it

[glacial dagger]

Thank you my dude

[thin escarp]

@main saddle did u have a backpack on

[main saddle]

nope

[main saddle]

why? 😅

[thin escarp]

that'l do it

never wear backpack mining in ships

[main saddle]

what? I'm confused now

it'll do what?

[subtle cradle]

Can anyone suggest me a good trade route loop? I have looked at SC trade tool, but it can be a little confusing for us new space truckers

[bright star]

Where are you located?

And what ship are you using to trade?

[subtle cradle]

Mainly crusader. I just bought a C2

[bright star]

I wouldn't really recommend Crusader for trading because of the longer travel time to get out of the atmosphere. But if you insist, I suggest you trade from Tram & Myers (buy Titanium) on Cellin, and sell them on Orison's TDD.

[subtle cradle]

I don't insist on Crusader. I actually just noticed that getting in and out of Orison being a huge pain.
I can easily just go to Hurston or ArcCorp and do it

Sadly my ship just booted me mid atmo (don't put a spacewhale on your dashboard) so I lost my cargo and am now low on funds lol
Might just move my whole operation to Hurston

[bright star]

Then may I suggest:

ArcCorp (sell at Area 18 TDD)

1. Humboldt Mines, Lyria (buy Titanium)
2. Shubin Mining Facility SAL-5 or SAL-2, Lyria (buy Titanium)

[subtle cradle]

Alright thank you. Will try that out now

[fresh ivy]

What happens if I have more refined ore than I have hold space to carry it? Will it not let me load or can partial loads be done?

[crimson oak]

wont let you store it on the ship

[solemn cradle]

so I'm curious after a friend said something to me, are traders scared of the cargo refactor? (mainly because of the addition of time investment loading and unloading.)

[lament loom]

I don't understand how trading works

[crimson oak]

kinda irrelevant right now until theres proper changes, the regen rate, regional servers being linked, min/max available to buy and sell at vendors etc makes it very mediocre

[obtuse raft]

that trade tool lies. the place it told me to sell too wanted to buy it for half what i bought it for much less any profit.

[west lotus]

This is amazing thanks bro

[wraith tusk]

New player here. Spent yesterday the first time mining in a prospector with some upgrades. Made 2 million. Wow that is for real an aUEC printer.

[leaden reef]

anyone else unable to find brandt at arc-l1?

there's a bunch of modules in the glass case and i think its bugged

[coarse cape]

iirc sc trade tools uses game files so the prices are not acurate but it still is good

[obtuse raft]

it said the buy price would be 19. would sell for 27. i bought for 24.. sold for 10.

[coarse cape]

What commodity?

Buy price will always be different as it goes up the more it gets bought and sc trade tools only lists the base price as that is in the game files

Sell price I’m not too sure about

[bright star]

Sell price changes too.

[near pilot]

how you can read that well?

[bright star]

It's pretty bad, but I don't remember it being THAT bad.

[broken hawk]

The mining UI needs a major rework or just revert back to what it was when you could still read it. Somone at cig really screwed up with this

[near pilot]

how to remove inedible minerals from hold?

[leaden reef]

you cant right now

[wild nacelle]

@near pilot there is a module you can buy that reduces the amount of inert materials you extract. Once it is in your hold you have to take it to the refinery.

There is an option but it is risky. If you pick up 0.1 SCU of a volatile ore (basically Quant) and leave it in your hold for 7 minutes it will go unstable. You can then ‘left Alt + J’ to eject your ENTIRE cargo and start from scratch. Watch out though, it is buggy and doesn’t always work which = kaboom!

[scarlet rover]

you shouldn't be trying to eat any minerals there, bud

[near pilot]

first time here, i have rent one day and try it out

[wild nacelle]

@near pilot What are you mining?

[near pilot]

dimaond

[wild nacelle]

The only one that is time critical is Quantanium. Everything else you only extract high % fragments. The same is true of Quant, but takes a lot of planning as the second you pick any up the timer starts and you have 15 minutes to get back to the refinery.

[near pilot]

yeah, but first time, so i want learn how to do stuff before moving on quantanium or i blow up too often

[wild nacelle]

All good. Look for rocks with high (25% plus) of the mineral you want.

[near pilot]

yeah but ui is still bad

i would wait

[wild nacelle]

But the instability of Quant makes it a whole different beast. My advice would be to loiter here and jump in when somebody asks for a Mole laser operator then learn from them. Typically your role there is to just follow instructions but the people running these gigs know their stuff and (in my experience) are happy to share.

[lament loom]

I need some help

I'm trying to do a trade route from this place called NT-999-XX

but I can't land because the turrets keep shooting me

[grand furnace]

should I upgrade my freelancer which is worth 110 dollar, I have 45 store credit which means I have 155 total to spend

[cloud helm]

I upgraded to a freelancer max for more storage and cargo rent a mole and mining is a breeze.

I rent a mole*

Lmao sorry brain go brr the land one.

[grand furnace]

yeh maybe I get a freelancer max

[royal spear]

A Roc 😛

[marsh vale]

Where should i mine quantum?

[royal spear]

Or the asteroid belt

[marsh vale]

havent had any luck in lyria or the asteroid belt

[royal spear]

fly around and look for clusters of asteroids/rocks. Quant rarely spawns as individuals

[marsh vale]

Is scan broken?

[royal spear]

Sometimes

You may need to get closer and look at it with mining tool

[marsh vale]

thanks

[unkempt helm]

is it common for delivery missions to fail? i'm doing the "deliver 3 boxes" thing and twice one of the mission markers disappeared, and from then I can't seem to complete the mission

[royal spear]

Never had that happen

[royal spear]

Now THAT'S what I call processing....

[pale crane]

Hey guys, can we sell scrap again, or is it still bugged ?

[glacial dagger]

Are you storing your ship with the parcels still on board. If so, it removes the markers but you can still deliver so long as you remember which ones go where

[crimson oak]

havent heard of it being fixed yet

[loud kettle]

Can you rent a c2 or cattapillar?

[glacial dagger]

Dont think so, purchase only

[loud kettle]

That’s to bad, thanks!

[glacial dagger]

Nw bud 😄

[subtle cradle]

No scrap hasn't been fixed yet. I spent my last 90k on a c2 load of scrap yesterday only to find out that I couldn't sell it. So I had to go back to Bounty Hunting.
I am not too impressed with trading so far

What I'd like to know is if there is any other commodities I should stay away from?

[frozen harness]

Why isn’t the paint for my prospector showing up?

[undone ibex]

im currently in prison

i cant deliver the mined ore

it always shows me transaction failed

any ideas?

[subtle cradle]

It used to be a thing on Aus servers. Whenever in prison I had to go to US servers to sell hadanite etc

[crimson oak]

check niknax, be sure your prospector is in the same place as the skin, usually your "home" address

[short prairie]

kinda new to this game is it worth to do cargo with the aegis avenger titan

[subtle cradle]

If you smuggle drugs you should be able to make decent money even with a Titan.

[crimson oak]

its decent for delivery missions but they get old very fast

[short prairie]

yh also takes like 20 mins to move around hurston

[scarlet rover]

Jump to the OM points to move around the planet faster

[short prairie]

i appreciate yall

[frozen niche]

Is it actually useful to pay attention to the commodity alerts for trading or no?

[frozen harness]

Hey why is the trading console not recognizing my ore??

It won’t let me select location

If my yield is 1240 quant that’s only 1.2 scu right

Wait I just made like 100k?

Waaat

K so I made my very first work order, then logged out. Logged back in back in my ship at the landing pad about to blow up

[crimson mantle]

Make sure you are at the TDD, not the admin terminal. It's a different subway station.

[crimson mantle]

The current commodity alerts are only for very low-paying goods. They are to be considered only if you have a very big ship and not a lot of money 😄

[thin escarp]

@marsh vale i can send you my guide for mining quant in 3.15

@frozen harness you submitted it?

sounds like ya didnt.

😄

it happens to the best of us man

[urban flame]

anyone got any tips to start off with hauling in a cutty black?

ive tried twice and it went horribly wrong twice

[scarlet rover]

What problems did you have?

[visual dagger]

Looking to do some basic mining today, any suggestions where to start

[ruby moth]

hand mining? ROC mining? or Ship Mining?

[visual dagger]

hand

[hollow sedge]

do you have a prospector

[ruby moth]

we are about to go do hand mining and test a few things after. you want to come join us?

[crisp bison]

trying to sell ore I mined in my Mole, but it doesn't show my ship as source

shows up on refinery console but not on Sell Ore console

[visual dagger]

I'm down, but not gonna be on for a while

[frozen harness]

I did

So what can I mine in a stock mole

Cuz the minjng heads only have one consumable right?

How big can I crack?

[thin escarp]

@frozen harness def not quant

change those lasers out

[frozen harness]

In..a mole?

[main saddle]

Just cracked this one. Had to leave a lot of quant behind because I couldn't hold it all.

[frozen harness]

In a stock mole? What module?

[main saddle]

Prospector with Lancet and no modules

[frozen harness]

What base are you operating out of?

[thin escarp]

@frozen harness gotta change those stock lasers in a mole

get lancet's and a helix

[frozen harness]

Gotcha. But I have a fully upgraded prospector so meh.

[main saddle]

I was on my way to Arc L1 from Hurston, so I stopped as I was crossing the belt to see if I'd get anything.

[thin escarp]

solo i'd just rock the prospector

[frozen harness]

I’m scared of mining Aaron’s halo and then not getting back in time to not explode.

I have very expensive modules lmao

[main saddle]

I use the Voyage QD. Yesterday, I went 19MKm and landed in time.

That green arrow was the quant run to Cru L1

Red was my course plot and yellow was the mining area where I drop out of QT.

[frozen harness]

I have the atlas, what’s the difference

[main saddle]

Voyage is a little faster

[frozen harness]

So you went to arc l5 not l1 is what it looks like

Sorry I’m learning

[main saddle]

that was my yesterday trip

had 100% haul on that one

Today's trip

[frozen harness]

Okay do you know at what range you’re dropping?

[main saddle]

I eyeball it. So, on the map, I just drop out halfway between Crusader's orbital line and the belt displayed on the map. So where the green ship marker is, is where I dropped out.

You can plot any course that crosses the belt and drop out halfway between Crusader orbital line and the map's belt.

Well, OK ,the screencap actually showed the distance left to Arc L1 from Hurston: 6,838,571 Km

[frozen harness]

Do the rocks in the halo only contain quant or do they also have mixed materials

[main saddle]

they have other stuff too

when I first dropped out, all I was finding was gold, corundum, etc., so I spooled up the QD and moved another few thousand km 😅 towards Arc L1

[frozen harness]

Lmao

[main saddle]

paid off, too. Got 3199 cscu of quant. Now, gotta decide on refining method.

do we think 3.16 will drop this week?

[turbid roost]

Hello guys

for novice trading. What is recommended? going to any mining outpost, buying ore and selling to planets?

[frozen harness]

Check out sc trade tools website

Super useful

You can input ship, carrying capacity etc and it’ll give you routes. Mind you the prices can change at any time

[main saddle]

well, opted for the 3.5 hour refining. It means I'm leaving about 47K potential profit on the table, but I'll get the job out tonight. Can't get on during the week.

[frozen harness]

Does the refinery dupe glitch still work?

[main saddle]

i dunno. thought they patched that one

[balmy nymph]

The other way of thinking about that is... if you can't get on during the week, doesn't matter if it takes 1.5 days then right? Long as you don't need the money NOW that is.

[main saddle]

Well, in case 3.16 drops this week, I didn't want to lose the refining job.

LOL , so.......I was hovering above A18 in my RAFT with my 3161 cscu of refined quant......It was reaaaaally hazy and I was trying to find Riker in external view.......lo and behold, I see a ship checking me out and I moved a little bit.....turns out, it was BlacJack 😦 Instant CS for running.

[balmy nymph]

Yeah that would suck 😕

[main saddle]

never occurred to me that I'd get scanned over A18

6 minutes in jail

[worthy scroll]

When you want to do a box mission but the dispenser keeps giving you the same box over and over.

[main saddle]

You're hallucinating from dehydration 😄

[worthy scroll]

But I've been drinking Dr. Pepper all day!

[thin escarp]

@main saddle i only use ferron exchange and dinyx solventation

the rest are trash

[main saddle]

Agreed, but I wanted to wrap it up tonight, so I picked a not-so-ideal method.

[thin escarp]

gonna lose a ton of that yield.

i get it tho

[main saddle]

So, when I got the CS, I landed on top of a building at A18 and powered down. Went to jail for 6 minutes. I flew my Pisces back to A18 and my RAFT was still parked on top of the building.

[thin escarp]

lucky af haha

[main saddle]

I took a gamble that it would get impounded; I sure wasn't going to GH with it 😅

Gamble paid off

That was a beautiful sight, lol

[final salmon]

Got any recommendations on cargo trading ship, that I can buy for Auec

I have around 1mil

[thin escarp]

keep saving

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, 1m isn't going to get you much for a cargo ship.

1.385m can get you a Cutlass Black, which has some decent cargo space, but it isn't really a "cargo ship".

[final salmon]

Which one should I save up for?

Caterpillar

?

[worthy scroll]

4.7m for a Cat. It's a good ship.

Freelancer Max for 2.2m

[final salmon]

Okey

[worthy scroll]

Connie Taurus for 3.2m

[frozen harness]

Yo how does scanning work? I scan and it does nothing

It progresses but doesn’t show anything

[final salmon]

Think I will go for freelancer max

[worthy scroll]

The Freelancers are good ships. A little piggish, but you can also use them for bounty missions up to VHRTs easily.

[thin escarp]

@frozen harness just dm'd ya some guides

@final salmon the c2 is 200k more and b etter than the cat

taurus is a nice start. too

@final salmon the freelancer max will get ya in.

just sstay away from scrap

and laranite.

[frozen harness]

What is the benefit to using 2 surge modules on one head?

I often see surge-surge-passive

[balmy nymph]

More surge zappies before you run out.

But yeah. I use surge, stampede, and either fltr-xl or brandt.

Usually fltr-xl and just deal with the jitter.

[somber solstice]

whats the best ship i can buy rn with real money for cargo hauling

[fresh ivy]

Freelancer MAX I think? Or Constellation Taurus

[coarse cape]

max and taurus are good starting haulers

best would prolly be the c2

theres also the hull series but those arent ingame yet

[rose root]

Taurus also has the benefit of being able to handle VHRT's easily as well for side cash

[coarse cape]

Ig yeah

[somber raven]

hey guys, don't know if this is the right chat but can you sell scrap yet? i've been stuck on a planet with a cargo full for a bit over a week now.

[hollow sedge]

My buddy and I brought in our first quantanium load today

Was a chonker 7500 mass 30%

We hooked now

After making like 15k a piece mining regular rocks quantaium is the way

[crimson oak]

nope

[somber raven]

thank you!

[urban flame]

can you mine quant with a rental prospector?

[crimson oak]

you can try

but it will be very difficult, you'd need to find a low mass rock

[urban flame]

ah

so better to mine with a roc or something until you can buy one and upgrade it?

[crimson oak]

theres a trick to jail breaking rentals but im not 100% sure its still working

[crimson oak]

generally yeah, id personally stick to the prospector and focus on other ores like bexalite, taranite, agricium, laranite, borase etc

[hollow sedge]

My buddy upgraded his mole he has for the month through subscriber. If he unequips the lazers and modules he bought before the end of the month will he still have those to equip to the mole hes going to buy?

[raw shell]

yes he should, that's my plan too

I was advised to unequip the modules and mining heads every day before logging on the last week of the month

[glacial dagger]

Can confirm

Save the accidental claiming your ship and losing the modules as well

[raw shell]

I've been able to raise about 10mil from that subscription MOLE. Well worth the $10 imo 😊

This stupid 3.16 hanging over our heads is putting a crimp into my fundraising efforts though

[hollow sedge]

@raw shell just mining quantanium?

I had to get myself an andromeda to be able to transport the refined goods. I didnt know you had to take the entire order at once so my avenger titan wasn't big enough lmao

[glacial dagger]

Pretty sure I told you about this a while ago

[hollow sedge]

Sometimes I just say ok even tho I have no idea what people talking about I figure ill figure it out along the way

[raw shell]

yep all quantanium. Once you bring in a haul of quantanium, nothing else is really worth the time or effort. I got a freelancer max for a cheap hauler. It can bring in a several jobs

[hollow sedge]

V cool

[raw shell]

fake it till you make it! 😄

[hallow swallow]

general scanning issues that came along with 3.15 still not fixed yet?

[hollow sedge]

I just did my first quant yesterday

Hope to make a lot more $ before I lose my mole

Me any my buddy been duo it one of us in a fast ship just to scout out rocks

The scout always finds the good rock first

[raw shell]

Having a partner in a MOLE would be awesome. It's a bit of a pain solo.. doable but can be a pain

having a partner in SC for anything would probably be awesome

[ember star]

I like doing it solo, it's nice

[hollow sedge]

Would def be fun to get efficient with a 3-4 man mole crew

[raw shell]

It would.. but figuring out the split seems like a pain for random pickup crewmembers

especially for those 8K+ rocks

[glacial dagger]

I have a simple method for payments with multi crew ships like that. Take the crew number, add one for the ship, divide all profits by that number, divulge evenly

Owner of the ship gets the ships part as well

Seems to work well for all the crews I have run so far

[raw shell]

do you just pay out once the refinery jobs are done and you take to market?

cause you have a risk of loosing

[glacial dagger]

Yup, only after I have actually sold the stuff

Now, sometimes, especially when I do it with my org, we can also get the same crew together so they can defend me when I ship it to sell, guaranteeing their profits

[raw shell]

ah yeah.. I've heard orgs doing mining events too with scout ships, fighters, multiple miners

[glacial dagger]

If I include a spotter in there as well, they get set amounts depending on the % bracket they find, which is taken out of the profit pot first, then the remaining pot is divided as mentioned before

It's scalable for a large fleet as well, as all the profits are sent to our 'bank' character, and then divvied up in the same way

[raw shell]

sounds complicated mutters 'numbers numbers numbers'

[glacial dagger]

Ehh, build up a spreadsheet, keep an accurate track of numbers and everything works out just fine. The largest event I ran involded more than 7 ships all being run together. I have nearly 20 players involded, with myself acting as owner of two moles as well as treasurer, meaning technically, I got 4 bits of pay

[urban flame]

Spotted the EVE player

[glacial dagger]

I mean, umm, uhhhh

But seriously though, spreadsheets sound really complicated when you first start trying to use them, but once you crack how to use the auto functions, their a god send

[urban flame]

this

[glacial dagger]

I can take 40 people, get them all mining, and everyone WILL recieve their correct pay at the end of it

[urban flame]

Then you start hooking the sheets up to API's and they basically become independent programs that work everything out for you without any input 😄

[glacial dagger]

Can do, but ehh, that's a bit beyond me rn

Besides, I like being all wrapped up in the numbers

I mean, when server meshing comes into play and we get to start dealing with multiple orions...yh, I might have too look into using an API

[raw shell]

I tried my first large SC event over the weekend. It was fun but so many bugs with grouping and massing large/multiple groups like that.

[frozen harness]

Are you mole mining solo?

[raw shell]

yes I am, well have been. 3.16 is messing me up

[frozen harness]

What’s the mass of the rocks you’re breaking? Why is 3.16 messing you up?

[hollow sedge]

hey all,
Newbro here, got some questions.
Yesterday i took the monthly payment and got the MOLE..
question nr 1: when is the new ship of the month?
2: Where can u upgrade the mining lasers?
3: best place to mine?

oh and what ship u need to get a land vehicle at the planet?

[raw shell]

<7k, 6k can be dicey depending on how lucky I am landing two surges just right. Since there is a high probability that 3.16 will wipe out any in-process refinery jobs, I haven't been loading up on dynx jobs. I've lost a bunch of jobs from a patch release before.. don't want to experience that again. Unfortunately CIG won't lower themselves to indicate how a release will or will not impact refinery jobs and won't give a release date we can plan around.

[glacial dagger]

I really dont think 3.16 will wipe out refinary jobs. when we went from 3.13.1 to 3.14, I didn't lose any of my jobs then

[raw shell]

I've been hearing both from folks... I even opened a support ticket asking but I haven't gotten a response.

[glacial dagger]

Might be better off asking it as a question on spectrum

Support tickets are getting hammered rn

My concierge ticket hasn't been seen in the 9 hours it's been posted

[raw shell]

I did, got a pretty solid "they're going to be wiped" answer but it's a player.. not official from CIG.

[rose quail]

How does one do the cargo

[odd snow]

Seems like its getting harder and harder to find quant.

I hardly ever come across it now

[glacial dagger]

So, I reccomend using SC Trade Tools to plan out your rough rote, and then test it

[rose quail]

Send link ?

Whats the profit percentage usually?

[glacial dagger]

Some rules I will almost always follow. Never sink more than half your account into a single trade

[royal spear]

https://sc-trade.tools

[glacial dagger]

Never broadcast your routes openly, especially if your trialing it

[rose quail]

I know that lol

But what can I expect as a profit % of what i transport

[glacial dagger]

And more importantly, dont spend more than you would be comfortable losing

[rose quail]

I wanna know if its even worth it imo

Im comfortable losing all my money

[royal spear]

And always walk slowly up and down stairs.

[rose quail]

I spent 100k on armor

And i only had 120k

[glacial dagger]

And finally, untill your comfortable with cargo, keep your spendings below 200k, jsut to be on the safe side

[rose quail]

I got all the safety stuff in my brain already but ty

I just wanna know how profitable cargo running can be

[glacial dagger]

Nw bud, always good to get it re-affirmed

[rose quail]

Like if i get 200k worth of cargo, how much would I profit

[glacial dagger]

Lemme put it this way. I have a cargo route that gives me a 25% profit of 100k after an investment of 500k

[rose quail]

Ahh

[glacial dagger]

Depends on what the commodity is

[rose quail]

Makes sense

So roughly around a 25% profit

[glacial dagger]

Also, be careful of the popular runs like laranite. Stores often arn't that full, and the routes almost always have at least one pirate on them

[rose quail]

I actually play on empty servers a lot so i dont run the risk of pirates

And even if i do its fine

I got bounty hunting as my main income source anyway

[odd snow]

any tips on finding quantanium? use to come acrss it all the time on Cellin or Lyra.

[raw shell]

Lyria isn't too hard to find. I just cruise around looking for 2 or more rocks together

[glacial dagger]

Go to the Aaron halo, and take your time. Be scroungy, and only start cracking rocks at 30% quant or higher

[raw shell]

the halo was much better when the ship scanner worked right

[glacial dagger]

It still does for the most part. As far as I can tell, it's really only the holes pilot seat that's really been having issues with canning asteroids

[raw shell]

the mole's pilot seat? is there a work around?

[glacial dagger]

Yh, have someone in one of your mining turrets so they can do the mining scann on it for you

[raw shell]

ah yeah. Partner would be nice

they need to make SC more friendly for geek women. I can't get any to play it.

[glacial dagger]

I mean, that might say something more about the current player base than CIG

I know plenty of women that enjoy playing SC, but a lot of them have been.....harrassed while in public comms, so they tend to only play on their own or in small groups with friends

[raw shell]

makes sense. I haven't run into many. SC seems like a total sausage fest in my experience

[glacial dagger]

Ehh, I'm not all that fussed by it tbh. If they play well and treat others right, their all good by my books

[frozen harness]

Is your mole upgraded at all?

[frozen harness]

How does this work

[frozen oasis]

that's for scanning somethingin front of you

so stations, rocks, ships, etc.

to find things you need to send out an active ping

which I think is bound to TAB

[frozen harness]

I heard this can give you the signature of the boxes

[frozen oasis]

boxes?

it can scan what's in the box, but not sure about signatures

well, it does tell you the signature it gives off I think when you scan it

hold LMB while looking at something

[frozen harness]

The hard part about minjng is forgetting you can’t just log out with module

[glacial dagger]

Pings (TAB) allow you to send out a radar ping in an attempt to detect is anything is out there. Scanning (v) allows you to activly scan an object in detectable distance. The closer you are, the more/faster the details you can get

[mellow birch]

Need some help, bought consumables, modules and a laser, I cant find them at all when I try to equip to ship

[frozen oasis]

it'll be stored on your home station

check Nick Nacks

[mellow birch]

oh, is that a new thing?

[frozen oasis]

part of the new inventory system

it's an app on your Mobi

shows you where all your stuff is

[mellow birch]

well, good and bad, got to make several more trips just to pick up things

[frozen oasis]

yeah all stuff you purchase (outside of armor, weapons, and consumables) gets moved to your home location immediately I believe

[mellow birch]

the modules and consumables did not, they remained at the refinery I bought them from

[frozen oasis]

they're consumable

[mellow birch]

Am I able to transfer them?

[glacial dagger]

What do you mean transfer?

[mellow birch]

I want this item, go to this location

drag and drop?

[glacial dagger]

If it's available in your inventory, then yes

[mellow birch]

dude this sucks, I mine in ArcCorp and have to run to HUR-L1 everytime I want to equip a surge module.

[glacial dagger]

That's why I like passive modules 😄

[mellow birch]

hard to crack big rocks without surge though

[glacial dagger]

I like to run 2x ReigerC3s and 1xVauxC3. You can crack up to a 6k rock and not have to worry quite so much about stability and optimal zone

[frozen harness]

I scan an object and it shows nothing. Does signal strength have to be 100

[glacial dagger]

Nope. What ship are you in and what are you scanning?

[frozen harness]

I’m in a prospector. Watched a hawkes gaming vid where it shows how you can use this to check signatures for minjng.

[frozen harness]

Buy 10. Store on ship. Take to arc. Put in local

[glacial dagger]

Might be worth just sticking to scanning with your mining laser then

Also, visual confirmation for materials is always useful. Quant rocks have a golden bronze stream through it

[frozen harness]

You really just mine with passives??

[glacial dagger]

Yup. never runs out, and still mining millions 😄

[frozen harness]

I’m bout to try it

[glacial dagger]

Good luck

[frozen harness]

6k rocks you say? Bet

[glacial dagger]

What laser are you using btw?

[frozen harness]

Lancet

I run surge stampede focus 3

[glacial dagger]

You might have some trouble cracking the 6ks with a Lancet, but a helix will do it 😄

I tend to just stick to the 5ks

[frozen harness]

I can crack up to 5.5

[glacial dagger]

But I'm not having to fork out tonnes of money over and over again for modules

Besides, if you find a 5k rock that's 30% or higher, that's pretty much a full prospector if you know what your doing

[frozen harness]

True. I just lost a 40k focus module tho

[frozen harness]

Sigh. Why can’t I move my jobs into my mole to sell??

[raw shell]

It's not a cargo ship

[raw shell]

I use a Lancet, surge, stampede and brandt. I have a Helix II in one of the other turrets but I don't see any difference in power from the lancet.

[mellow birch]

Yo, where is Quant in the Crusader area?

[coarse cape]

mole transports raw materials. you need a cargo ship for refined stuff

[unkempt helm]

hey all, what is the best rover for level 2 delivery missions, that fits in a cutty lack?

*black

[glacial dagger]

Occasionally you might find something good around Yella, but good luck

[frozen harness]

Damn I can’t believe Chris roberts just duped me into buying a raft

[frozen harness]

Aarons halo around crusader is dense

[glacial dagger]

I mean, good ship for moving your refinary deals

[glacial dagger]

Yh, I personally like the belt between CRU-L1 & ARC-L3

[frozen harness]

I wanted it anyway. Still salty tho

[urban flame]

can someone give me a quick TL;DR on how to mine in a rentable prospector quickly please? 😄

where mine, what mine, where sell, worth refining?

[glacial dagger]

A quick TL:DR...Go to youtube

You can learn while they explain it to you

[frozen harness]

TLDR you can’t mine quantanium.

Unless it’s super low mass

And quantanium makes you rich

[glacial dagger]

You totally can with a rented, it's just a little trickier

[urban flame]

i only want to be able to make enough to buy one outright so i can switch to mining quant

[glacial dagger]

Yh, you can defo mine quant with a rented prospector. Do you have a cargo ship with at least 32SCU btw?

[urban flame]

yeah got a cutty black

[glacial dagger]

Cutty has 32?

[urban flame]

46

[glacial dagger]

Ah, perfect

Because yh, if you try and load a refinery deal onto a ship that cant store all of it, it loads what it can and deletes the rest

[frozen harness]

The Raft is actually cheaper in the cutty to run trade too

Warbond raft is 110 cutty is 115

[glacial dagger]

Yup, why do you think I have one. I mean, I do also have some pretty big ships for cargo later on.....eventually

[molten scaffold]

is trading reliable yet

[scarlet rover]

in what way?

[molten scaffold]

like is there anything that can't be traded

I tried doing scrap yesterday but couldn't sell anything

It was at a place that takes scrap too

[scarlet rover]

the four locations that accept scrap have been bugged for months. they seem to fail to recognize ships parked there

I'm not aware of any commodities being bugged, or any other locations being bugged.

[molten scaffold]

so scrap is really the only thing to look out for?

[scarlet rover]

as far as I've seen, it's only those four locations

[frozen harness]

I unloaded my surge modules at arc l1 and now they are at orison

How does that even happen

[scarlet rover]

in other words, it's not technically scrap that's bugged, it's selling ANYTHING to those locations - but they're also the only ones that take scrap

[frozen harness]

Scrap is intentionally nerfed because of an exploit

[molten scaffold]

alright thank you

so distilled spirits are fine?

[scarlet rover]

I have not had an issue with those

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[molten scaffold]

alright thanks

[frozen harness]

You run the three passives right?

[glacial dagger]

2xReigerC3, 1xVauxC3, yh

[frozen harness]

Lancet or helix?

[north oyster]

For Quantainium mining? Lancet but far, Helix for everything else

[frozen harness]

Why won’t my prospector scan a rock with mining mode?

Asteroid

It’s clearly quantanium

[surreal compass]

Its a bug, I've run into it countless times

It will recognize quant rocks, you just have to keep finding them until you come across one that does get recognized and scans

You can also go to lyria near arccorp and try your luck in the motherland, that bug is way less prevalent there

[visual dagger]

How to easily pick up ores when hand mining

Keybind?

How to quickly transfer from backpack to ship

[frozen harness]

Well I’m still learning but 8 hours of work only got me 500k

[frozen harness]

I spent all day in the motherland and rng was not with me. Only had luck in the halo

[surreal compass]

Yeah, you have to get lucky as well as know where to look. Its not perfect

[frozen harness]

I headed to sal 2 and patrolled the grey mountains. Nothin

[north oyster]

"still learning" is key. But you'll get that to about 275k per trip. I took two refinery jobs to market that was about 500k that took less than 30 min to harvest.

One area I'd recommend is 11.5m km from ARC-L3 (traveling from CRU-L1)

Nice Quan rocks there

[frozen harness]

That’s where I found luck but I operate out of arccorp

So I go from arc 1 to cru4

[little flare]

My buddy is in grim and hes trying to sell his larinite but he cant sell it at the admin terminals. He can select the ship but not sell the stuff

[fresh ivy]

How do you find the asteroids around Lyria?

Is there a nearby jump point?

[bright star]

That's because you can't sell Laranite at Grim Hex.

You can only sell them at TDD in major cities.

[bright star]

Didn't know Lyria has asteroids.

[fresh ivy]

I keep hearing "asteroids near Lyria as a great place to mine"

[bright star]

They probably meant Yela

[crimson oak]

or lyria itself

[near pilot]

why these inside rock? cant get into it

[shell edge]

is there a cave nearby?

[near pilot]

no, it is inside the big rock,

[shell edge]

probably a bad spawn of them then

[glacial dagger]

Yh, I have had bad spawns as well. 11 rocks spawned inside of 2 non-minable boulders

[unkempt helm]

Is there any ground vehicle that can reliably carry delivery mission boxes? I tried the Cyclone but the physics went haywire and the boxes all fell out

[glacial dagger]

Ursa can

technically the MPUV, but it's not a ground vehicle

Ands theres the Tonk and balista, but their a bit too big

[rose root]

Hi guys anyone got a link to that awesome graph that has minerals/rocks and the planets and percentages?

[glacial dagger]

Are you talking hand minables or ship minables?

[rose root]

umm it has both on it

[glacial dagger]

Hmm, a magical thing called google images might help

But, as I have the time to find it

[rose root]

Awesome, appreciate the snark thanks.

[unkempt helm]

Seems wrong because there is Quant in the Aaron Belt? Strange it's not on there?

[glacial dagger]

Huh??? It's right at the top?

[unkempt helm]

Yeah but Quant isn't included in the Ship Minable Resources

[glacial dagger]

Heres a bigger version

And yup, have a look at the top row

[unkempt helm]

Ah sorry i was using Google Images LOL

[glacial dagger]

Fair

[glacial dagger]

Just trying to help bud

[young grove]

ok mined some ore with my shiny new prospector. Do I have to sell it at Lorville? Can I not just sell it at the T & S console in the admin office on LURL2?

[glacial dagger]

So, there are two things you can do with raw mined ore, and both require the refinery decks. You can either sell the raw or to the refinary, or you can double your money and refine the ore to then go and sell at a city

[urban flame]

Need more jpg

[near pilot]

Why roc cant extraction when cargo hold reach half?

it just stuck flying round the extraction arm

[crimson oak]

get out and check the cargo

try taking a bit out and try extracting again

one possible work around ive read about is something like that, manually checking the cargo outside the roc

[rose root]

I wonder if the ROC stuff will get fixed in 3.16... Got a feeling its gonna be Q2022 tho

*q1

[near pilot]

@crimson oak thanks it did trick

[crimson oak]

😄

[crimson oak]

would be nice if it did, wouldn't mind an extra thing to do as a change of pace.

[rose root]

Agreed it was my favorite thing to do in the game. It's been awful not being able to do it properly. Hopefully it made it high enough up the bug report list by players 🙂

[mellow birch]

Scanner broken?

[north oyster]

One consideration to think about. CRU-L1 offers a +3% Quantainium refinery bonus. No other refinery in the system does

[mellow birch]

half the rocks in the halo not scannable

[north oyster]

Depends upon the server

[mellow birch]

so log out in bed and try again?

[north oyster]

I have had servers were about 70% of the scans failed and then I've had servers where only about 10% of the scans failed

[subtle cradle]

I wouldn't log out in beds. It's still broken afaik and you'll risk having to character reset

[sick flare]

Does anyone think physical cargo will launch with manual forklifts or do you think it will be like how we place the boxes now, with a blue outline and then the forklift will just automatically play an animation to bring the thing over to that spot... I noticed the forklifts at Orison had a warning on them that said "warning fully automated machinery"

[frozen harness]

I just exploded with a hold full of quant for no reason.

Bruh

I worked 8 hours of that yesterday

[visual dagger]

Finished my first hand mining trip and got $15,000 doubling my money

I’m so excited

Should I rent a mining car? Or do I need a ship that can actually hold it. I only have the avenger started ship

[coarse cape]

its recommended to have a ship to carry the rock

roc*

unless you want to drive for a long time

[sick flare]

Yeah you want a least a Nomad

[fallow fern]

I'm new and would like to understand mining plus find people who play most days

[crisp bison]

can you haul cargo for others?

[scarlet rover]

Unfortunately I do not believe that's practical right now, although technically doable. Currently, security ships treat objects inside your ship that do not belong to you as "stolen", even if they belong to a party member, so you will be charged with carrying stolen goods.

[crisp bison]

that will only happen when your ship is actually scanned?

[peak axle]

So im looking for a cheap cargo ship that will be used for transferring mining materials like quantanium any ideas?

I might go for nomad but I was curious on how much cargo it can do when doing delivery’s on refined materials

[coarse cape]

freelancers are pretty solid

[compact oracle]

noob question but

how do I transfer all of the mined stuff from the ROC to my ship

its all in stacks of 1

[fast tendon]

Where in baijini point do you find the trade terminal?

nvm got it

[odd snow]

so if I load up a FLTR-XL in all 3 spots, does it tripple the effect?

🙂

[polar flame]

Where can I find a chart of the Halo bands and their QT points?

and which bands tend to be more quantanium dense?

[crimson mantle]

The Aaron halo is homogenous

[visual dagger]

lmk when you find an answer

[ruby moth]

right now its literally one by one

[visual dagger]

Ik its so annoying

I finished my hand mining trip yesterday and just had to hand transfer all the stuff, I saw a video on packaging it from your backpack, but it didn't work

[visual dagger]

help noobs

[north oyster]

I have found dropping out of QT about 11.5M Km from ARC-L3 is a pretty good spot.

[polar flame]

ok ... that would put you in band 4

[north oyster]

I didn't know that the belt had specified bands

[north oyster]

I do know when I dropped out at 12M Km, the results were way worst

Between 11.5 and 11 I found a large number of 30% and greater percentage asteroids

[polar flame]

yeah ... im having shit luck right now

[scarlet rover]

https://cornerstonebase.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[undone merlin]

So, where does one sell unrefined ore in the system?

I don't have a ship that can hold refined materials in large amounts

[scarlet rover]

At refineries. Those are located at the L1 stations, as well as HUR L2

[undone merlin]

Every time I've taken my prospector to refinery stations I haven't been able to sell the ore directly. The panel won't even register the prospector as a valid transfer point

[lament loom]

okay how the hell do you even trade

the terminals don't even work at surface outposts

[scarlet rover]

which ones?

[lament loom]

the scrapyard

[scarlet rover]

the four scrapyards have been bugged for several months

[lament loom]

god fucking damn it

[scarlet rover]

those are the only stations that are doing it

[lament loom]

now I have a cargo hold full of scrap

and I don't know how to dump it

[scarlet rover]

☝️

[lament loom]

how do I dump the cargo

I have an expired rental connie and I can't just crash it

[scarlet rover]

you can either leave that ship untouched until the scrapyards are fixed, or you can take the loss

[lament loom]

or I'll lose the ship

I can take the loss, but not the loss of the ship

[scarlet rover]

you'll probably lose it in the next week when 3.16 drops

what ship do you own?

[lament loom]

vanguard sentinel, avenger titan, mustang alpha

I wanted to give trading a try

rental connie andromeda, expired

[scarlet rover]

IAE rental?

[lament loom]

regular

[scarlet rover]

I wouldn't stress over it, like you said it's already expired anyway

[lament loom]

yeah, but I still have the ship and if this crashes that's another like

70k

[scarlet rover]

As far as I've seen, CIG has not made any statements about fixing the scrapyards, so I wouldn't count on being able to sell that cargo anytime soon

[lament loom]

is selling it the only way to get rid of it?

okay screw it

I have 24k rn

how do I do trading effectively with

whatever I have rn

[scarlet rover]

trading is not the most profitable career right now because prices have been distorted due to increased trading volume

so margins are thin

most traders who are making a profit are relying on large cargo holds like the C2 or the Cat

[lament loom]

I'm cool with it not being the most profitable

Just want something relaxing that works

because bounty hunting pays well but I'm tired of Hurricanes

[scarlet rover]

basically margins are thin so people are relying on bulk, but that requires a high upfront investment and runs the risk of loss if the ship crashes, is destroyed or glitches

you could try renting a Prospector, do you find mining relaxing?

[lament loom]

never done it but I tried it in the prison and uh

yikes

[scarlet rover]

probably the hooves getting in the way

[lament loom]

the what

[scarlet rover]

furry joke

[lament loom]

oh

[scarlet rover]

best of luck

[lament loom]

anyways uh, mining

idk

not sure how to get started there either

[crimson oak]

full C2 with astatine or titanium only about 100k profit

it aint amazing

[glacial dagger]

It is currently the only commodity I have found to actually fill a C2 and get 6 figure profits

[wraith tusk]

Not amazing for 15 min of braindead work? You value your time very high it seems

[crimson oak]

i do indeed

[narrow fractal]

does quant spawn more at belt planets or those stationless gas clouds

or isit just luck

[blissful rain]

Hiya, what are the best places to mine Quantanum besides the halo belt and lyria? any other places?

[fervent agate]

Why? Hard to find Quant there?

[blissful rain]

no i just want to change it up a bit

Hur l3 is a nother good spot i found

any pothers?

others

halo belt hardly has any

[crimson oak]

microtec moons used to be all the rage

the asteroids around yela as well

i just stick to lyria though personally, never disappoints, ay-ay-ron halo then just to switch things up.

[blissful rain]

Nice

Lyria tends to have rocks that e too big for a prospector to crack though

[crimson oak]

hmm with the right consumables its a fairly rare sight to find a good quant rock you cant crack

sometimes people are willing to help you as well, i know ive helped other random strangers plenty of times.

[open plaza]

Would it be a good idea to upgrade the QT Drive on my Taurus ?

[steel cobalt]

Ford Taurus

?

yea id vote

[open plaza]

Connie

Taurus

[odd snow]

I personally dont see the point. its a slow moving cargo ship, plain and simple.

[open plaza]

well i wanna get from a to b fastewr

[odd snow]

anyone here solo mine in a mole? really considering getting one purely for capacity. Already have a prospector.

[crimson oak]

id highly recommend upgrading to a class A military drive

you do notice a difference

[chilly bobcat]

Mining in the mole is awesome alone, even better with friends

[woeful sky]

honestly mining quant solo in it i never found any rocks with enough quant for the extra capacity to matter, and it is a little tedious to go from the pilot seat to the turret every time

[queen meadow]

Hi, whats the best site for me to work out the best thing to haul. thanks

[marsh vale]

Does stuff in the refinery restart after update?

[thick canopy]

everything in the refinery diseperd what we can se 🙂

just lost 7m on lost ref quant 😮

[marsh vale]

i lost like 1m

but im new so thats alot

[thick canopy]

eh im new alsow 🙂 only played 2 weeks

[brisk loom]

Can we sell scrap yet?

nvm. saw we can sell it at HUR-L5, CRU-L5, ARC-L1, and MIC-L1

[raw shell]

yay I can load the refinery up again!

[raw shell]

switching seats is a hassle but never having to leave anything behind or nit-pick about what you're vacuuming up is the bomb. And for the times you score a 5k+ SCU haul, totally worth it.

[hybrid vigil]

Selling at PO wont work

[thin escarp]

@hybrid vigil normal

@odd snow i have a few buddies that do it solo. just more cargo space ya know takes a bit.

@narrow fractal@lament loom i can send you guys my mining guides if you want

[narrow fractal]

@thin escarp yes pls

[glacial dagger]

Yh, PO doesn't buy scrap rn due to some playing finding a pretty nifty selling glitch

[verbal meteor]

hey fellow explorrers. ive got a question. im new to the game just 5 days playing and mad 500k aUEC, now is my question is it profitable to rent a cargo ship like the andromeda. for a day and make profit with it or is it not a good idea. i want to bank some cash to leave my starter ship behind haha.

[hollow sedge]

hey folks, how can i sell my ORE? i brought my MOLE to the CRU L1

but cant sell the ore

[worthy scroll]

The big ways to make cash these days is bounties and mining. You may do better with a Prospector.

[verbal meteor]

ok an with the bounties its like deliveri get better rep for more cash

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, you grind up through the tiers to get better paying bounties.

There are a lot more tiers compared to delivery missions though.

[glacial dagger]

Refinary decks can buy raw ore, but it's better to double your money and take it in a cargo ship to sell at a city

[verbal meteor]

yeah i was thinking buying at small stations and selling in lorville

[glacial dagger]

I mean, that's what the basis of trading is. I have a few routes that I absolutly love running as theres a 6 figure profit in there for me 😄

[verbal meteor]

oh wauw thats great profit hahah

just got my first half a mil owyeah

[glacial dagger]

Ayy, a good first marker

Now aim to double it 😄

[verbal meteor]

first 2 days were frustating hahaha only losing money now i make some small bank

[glacial dagger]

Only takes about 10 runs in a C2 using an investment of 500k-600k

[verbal meteor]

yeah i got the aora xD

barley can fit the 3 boxes for 45k

hahahaha

but yeah bit jalous of all the youtube videos with peeps having over 20m

[hollow sedge]

cant understand how they do it

i already lossed 75k by the new patch

[worthy scroll]

Don't worry about the grind, just play and enjoy 🙂

[pliant slate]

anyone know if selling scrap works now?

[glacial dagger]

Nope, scap doesn't sell at all rn

[hollow sedge]

I understand, but i dont have a hauler lol. just a newbro here

i took it to the refinery deck but it doesnt show me the ship i mined in so cant select anything

[odd snow]

have to have a cargo ship to load it into

can rent one if you dont have one

[glacial dagger]

I'm the refinary deck, go all the way through and up the stairs. Terminals on the left are where you sell your raw ore

[hollow sedge]

i know, but it isnt showing my ship

at the reprocessing it does, at the ore it doesnt

[echo fiber]

do new patches autosell refined ore in refineries?

[crimson mantle]

Here: https://sc-trade.tools/refineries
At the refinery deck

[crimson mantle]

If you had jobs in process, there's a good chance they are gone.

[echo fiber]

Hm ok. They were definitely finished, just waiting to be picked up. I also got like 300k extra credits compared to 3.15 and wondering where it comes from. My ship components that I bought are also gone, maybe they got refunded, too?

[crimson mantle]

Hard to say 😅
Count yourself lucky everything just didn't disappear without a trace!

[hollow sedge]

i know where to do, but if i go to the ORE terminal i cant select a location i need to sell it from. and i would like to sell it cause i can invest in some ships to rental.
RSI already took 75k of me and only have 20k left atm so cant rent anything of that to haul the refined items.
That's why i wanna sell the raw ORE, i think it's a bug or something?

[echo fiber]

Yeah, It is actually good that the ore is gone. I was only able to sell it with a free flight ship, and now they are all gone anyway. Back to the aurora I guess!

[astral granite]

Anyone having problems with caterpillar elevator not retracting

Like it comes down fine but wont go back up. No way to get in.....

[dark raft]

@astral granite store it and pull it back out might fix jt

[astral granite]

Tried that a few times

[dark raft]

@astral granite store it and log out and back in

[astral granite]

KK will try that

[dark raft]

@astral granite k let me know if that works it helps me sometimes

[dark raft]

@astral granite did it work

[subtle cradle]

Any commodities I need to avoid other than scrap when trading? I really don't wanna lose all my money again

[polar flame]

did this patch wipe refinery jobs?

[crimson mantle]

Scrap is back on the menu! You can trade station to station. https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Scrap
Quite popular at the moment it seems.

[thin escarp]

@hollow sedge the terminal in the refinery wont find ur ship if u have a backpack on

@polar flame yes

[subtle cradle]

Nice. Thanks mate

[muted minnow]

is the lancet the head to get for mining?

and what consumables are the ones to get? haven't mined in a long time

[odd hound]

Lancet for quantanium mining, yes - and Brandt, Stampede, Surge.

[muted minnow]

Thanks man.

[fresh stag]

New to mining here, what does the stampede do, does it make the green bar fill faster?

[ruby moth]

yes it does

[fresh stag]

Ty

So surge, stampede and then use Brandt for quant rocks?

[ruby moth]

that works

[barren drum]

it is a dumb question but i am at my wits end. where can I go to actually find quantanium? I have went everywhere i could find online and i havent found a single rock

and also

I cannot seem to get the scanning process to work properly on the Prospector. I enter scanning mode at the right strength and whatnot, hold left clock and when the overview pops up on the left hand side of the HUD its just blank every time
[1:44 AM]
it seems like part of the word Overview is partially covered on the w on the end, as well

[fresh stag]

Same for me, tried Lyria now I’m going back to The halo

[barren drum]

im at the halo now and i cant find anything at all

[rose root]

100%. All the youtubers make it look like every second quant rock is 30% when I feel almost all the ones I eventually find are like 2%

[barren drum]

i cant find 1% lol

this is barren and almost sad

I melted my entire hangar to get into mining and now I am out of aUEC and cant find anything to make anything back

this is sad

back to the drawing board, best of luck everyone

[subtle cradle]

How come Shady Glen doesn't show on my star map?

[steel cobalt]

3.16 is out already?

[coarse cape]

ye

[subtle cradle]

It's not working at all in my game. Again I'm stuck with a C2 filled with scrap that I can't sell anywhere

SC Trade Tools is definitely not up-to-date with 3.16.
I like your website and appreciate you spending time on it, but I don't think you should claim it is up-to-date

[coarse cape]

pretty sure rn you can only sell scrap at L1 stations

[glacial dagger]

Nope, your also supposed to be able to sell it to PO, Reclemation and Disposal: Orinth and Devlins Scrap Yard

[coarse cape]

at the moment no bc of what happened earlier in 3.15

@glacial dagger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCTfYEyAeGg

check that

@glacial dagger Might also be a demand problem as people have probably sold a lot since patch

[sand canyon]

hey im new to mining and i was wondering where the best place to mine quantanium is

[glacial dagger]

For quant, you want Lyria or the Aaron Halo

[sand canyon]

okay thanks

[hollow sedge]

Can someone tell me how I can make a lot of profit with trading

[crimson mantle]

Up to date

[glacial dagger]

Use SC Trade Tools, sus out some routes that you think might be good, and give them a try

[crimson mantle]

Good trade routes

[glacial dagger]

Avoid comodities like drugs for the most part though, it can be a...risky business

[hollow sedge]

I tryed it using the trade tool and I had no idea what it was doing

I guess larenite is the best to sell

[glacial dagger]

problem with Laranite is that you wont find much stock at a single location

[hollow sedge]

What's the second best then I hered titanium is good

[glacial dagger]

Titanium is pretty good

[hollow sedge]

Is scrap good to?

[glacial dagger]

Nope, Scrap broken rn

[hollow sedge]

Really I saw a vid that sayed that it's fixed again

But the cat is broken aperently

[shrewd kayak]

The Cat currently has C2 and a Cutlass as loaners since the elevator's broke.

[crimson mantle]

Scrap is back: it can be sold at specific rest stops

[crimson mantle]

If you can't fill-up on something, try an alternative commodity! 😄
https://i.imgur.com/OGiEvFW.png

[odd snow]

Yep

[thin escarp]

@barren drum i can send you my mining guide for 3.16 if you want

@sand canyon i have a mining guide i can send you if you'd like

[odd snow]

@thin escarp I'll take it too please

[thin escarp]

sent

[midnight egret]

What controls do I bind to control my mining arm on my ROC?

[unique acorn]

I’m on the trading console currently and trying to buy laranite. The price/unit is highlighted red. Is it because it's over priced or because there none in stock, or because it's hazardous

[odd snow]

Not haz. Likely out of stock is my guess.

[obtuse raft]

is that the same as the last guide cross?

[coarse cape]

if its red it means its out of stock

if youre trying to sell it to a location that means its full

[odd snow]

whats with all the un-scannable rocks?? I've come across probably 20 that wont scan in the past 10 mins

[charred iris]

how to recovery ship after 30k?

i can only cliam, i don't want lost my cargo

i heard 3.15 can 30k recovery, but i dont know how to do.

[worthy scroll]

Wait 15 minutes.

[charred iris]

should i quit game and wait? i already wait for long time in game.

[native plank]

Is it worth getting passive attachments for Prospector?

And do they stay even if ship is destroyed unlike modules?

[crimson mantle]

They do not stay if the ship is destroyed or otherwise claimed

[scarlet rover]

that means out of stock. there should be a red sentence on the bottom right saying "STOCK UNAVAILABLE"

[radiant ridge]

I've been looking around for a Stampede module, but I don't really know where to find one.

I read that it is obtainable at port olistar, but it's not there. Then at HUR L1, but I don't really think there is a place to buy the module there either

[sonic laurel]

arc L1 wide forest

[radiant ridge]

Where specifically is that in wide forest? I am currently there and I have no clue what I'm searching for

[sonic laurel]

refinery deck in the shop

[lament loom]

how do I get started on trade again

I have about 470k

only cargo ship I have is a titan

[radiant ridge]

I am sorry, but I can't really find where exactly it is in the refinery deck in the shop. I checked the mining support center and checked the terminals and displays, but not entirely sure anymore

[sonic laurel]

It's at one of the terminals. I'm not able to play right now to screenshot it.

[radiant ridge]

alright. I'll just keep looking around. Thx tho

[sonic laurel]

Np

[radiant ridge]

yep. I found it. I didnt know there were more tabs that I have to scroll up and down to find the mining/utility

[scarlet rover]

You're probably going to want at least 96SCU hold to get started with cargo in the current economy. With the Titan you will likely make more money faster shipping crate deliveries than investing in transporting commodities

[lament loom]

So erm

Connie then?

[rose root]

Grab a Taurus. They can handle VHRTs along side their insane cargo cap

[lament loom]

hmm

3 mil

[lament loom]

Uh how's the space compared to let's say a uh, Andro

[rose root]

WAY higher

[worthy scroll]

Andromeda takes up some of the cargo area for missiles. Taurus is all cargo.

[rose root]

Yup. but keeps the same shields as the Taurus, same guns and loses one turret. It's the ultimate everyday ship

[worthy scroll]

Yep.

[lament loom]

ooh.

my game glitched so

enjoy this pic

[worthy scroll]

I'm more of an Aquila person myself, but all the Connies are good.

I got a Raft yesterday, I may try doing some cargo runs. I've just never been into trading before, so I don't really know where to start. It's gameplay I haven't touched.

[rose root]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

start there, use the route finder and go from there:)

[worthy scroll]

I can't get the trade route to do anything, it just says No Results.

Ah, selecting all commodities fixed it.

[scarlet rover]

Try a quick google search and Wiki check first.
https://starcitizen.tools/Constellation_Taurus

[lament loom]

holy shit

it's over twice as big

okay

[scarlet rover]

Keep in mind the tool lists the base prices of commodities, not the current in-Verse prices adjusted for supply and demand. It's good for mapping a potential route but could be unprofitable in game if many other citizens are attempting to trade in the same commodities or locations

[scarlet rover]

almost 👌

[worthy scroll]

That part I was aware of, but thanks though.

I'm doing my first small run right now.

[lament loom]

any idea where to rent a taurus?

I can only find rentals for the Andro

[worthy scroll]

Erkul doesn't show a rental place for it

Hm, I see a site that has a rental price for it, but not a location.

[lament loom]

yikes.

I really don't know how to get 3 million for a connie

[scarlet rover]

There is another Org that offers what they advertise as near real-time tracking, but it relies on reporting from their members so it can be hit or miss.
https://uexcorp.space/trade

They do have a neat cmd console that imitates Bloomberg Terminal

https://portal.uexcorp.space/terminal

[worthy scroll]

Hm. Went to my sell location and my ship doesn't show up on the terminal.

[raw shell]

are there modules you can use to break an 8k rock, with a lancet on a mole? Solo?

I can get it to the green using surges but a stampede won't break it before it drops

[scarlet rover]

There are four locations that have been bugged for months - each of the junkyards/scrapyards on the planets

[worthy scroll]

The Orphanage

[scarlet rover]

haven't heard that one being bugged but wouldn't be surprised

here's a tip, if the route is NOT highlighted in yellow on SCTradeTools, it's probably due to citizens not running it, possibly due to a location glitch preventing it from being viable

[worthy scroll]

Ah. This one isn't highlighted.

[scarlet rover]

which may indicate it has a high demand because players are unable to fulfill it

[worthy scroll]

Well. Where to sell off a load of laranite then.

[scarlet rover]

due to the state of certain bugs, many cargo players over supply the most expensive items, which causes backlogs due to undersupply at the locations selling them, and oversupply at the locations buying them

TDD

[worthy scroll]

So there's really no point in trying to get into this then huh.

[scarlet rover]

Each TDD (and the CBD at LORville) will purchase most commodities

[scarlet rover]

You said you were familiar with the effects of supply and demand in the vers

[worthy scroll]

I didn't know it was this jacked up though.

[scarlet rover]

that's basically what the yellow locations mean on SCTT: those are heavily trafficked routes that citizens are relying on due to their margins, but the oversupply is damping profits

I'm hopeful the cargo refactor in the spring will bring some updates to trade mechanics and loops

[worthy scroll]

Hopefully. I was looking for something chill to do other than box missions because those mess up more often than not now.

I was able to sell at A18. All is good 😉

[sonic laurel]

10k and 18k missing crew missions are chill

And you get free armor

[rose root]

Anyone have cheeky life hacks for extending your Roc mining sessions? E.g any workarounds roc being full?

[subtle cradle]

Does those passive effect modules stack? Can I for example put 3 x Torrent III on my prospector and is it worth the 120k aUEC?

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, I haven't done any of the investigation and that kind of stuff in quite a long time.

Running through an atmo bounty in a Raft while headed to your trading post is interesting.

[subtle cradle]

How do you like the raft?

[worthy scroll]

I like it. I didn't get it for what it is today, I got it for what it will be later.

[subtle cradle]

Yeah I only had it for like a week and I had to get rid of it since it wasn't bringing me any income. I really like the look of it though

[worthy scroll]

My whole fleet isn't built on now, but the future.

Front row is what I have, back row is what I want.

[subtle cradle]

I just upgraded to Taurus and that's all the money I'm gonna spend on the game.

But that's what I said when I upgraded to cutty black as well

[worthy scroll]

Fair. My goal is to eventually pledge a total of $1k, and not go over that. Three years and I'm a bit more than 2/3 there now.

So some of the wants on that back row won't make the cut.

Lol, I went to PO to sell and someone tried to come at me after I landed, and the station turrets F'd them up.

[coarse cape]

I got Railen and Corsair lol. Probably going to upgrade Corsair to a medivac tho

[worthy scroll]

My Corsair is the one thing that's set in stone, I won't get rid of that ship unless they do something really dumb with it and make it suck.

[frozen harness]

Delicious

[midnight egret]

What controls do I bind to control my mining arm on my ROC?

Using a flight stick (HOSAS) and would prefer not to use my mouse for the arm if I can.

[worthy scroll]

There are no HOTAS bindings to move the arm itself.

[sonic laurel]

I have a nomad and depending I might go to a cutty black

I will also likely get the vulture

[coarse cape]

Yeah I used to think it was my set in stone ship but then I realized my fleet goal doesn’t work with it lol so now my Railen is my set on stone since my friend got me concierge paint for it

[worthy scroll]

Finally managed a full load in the Raft. Lets see how much this gets me.

[subtle cradle]

A full load of what?

[coarse cape]

I’m mostly building a support fleet with a tad bit of industrial/commercial to it

[worthy scroll]

Kind of the same for me. I'm primarily interested in exploration, but everything else is support.

[narrow fractal]

can a lancet with modules break a 6k+ mass rock a 7k+ or do i need a helix?

[subtle cradle]

It's only around 800k full of quantanium

[coarse cape]

Yeah I was gonna do exploration but then I realized the other vehicles I’ll probably need and I just decided meh

[worthy scroll]

My plan is to mostly live out of the Corsair and get a couple bikes to putter around with.

[coarse cape]

Nice nice

With my Railen I’ll use it some of the time to transport supplies to a station for a Vulcan and medivac

[hollow sedge]

So if I mine and craft stuff with it isn’t it just Minecraft

[worthy scroll]

Yes. That's exactly it.

[hollow sedge]

Ty

[worthy scroll]

Mine Citizen

[midnight egret]

Star....craft? 😂

[narrow fractal]

can a lancet with modules break a 6k+ mass rock a 7k+ or do i need a helix?

[odd snow]

Similar question - running a mole solo, and I come across 7500k mass... i usually hit a surge but it doesn't get me high enough to get into the green to lock in stampede... but if i surge twice it goes over and kaboom....

any advice? I'm running the lancet head.

[odd snow]

Partial answer - I can usually bust up a 6500k rock with a lancet and surge.

[narrow fractal]

Hmm i seem to be having no luck. Might upgrade to an impact 1 or helix 1

[pseudo reef]

probably wont see a caterpillar fix for the elevator till a patch huh?

[hollow sedge]

you can do a little parkour to get up there

[worthy scroll]

Oh man A18 will give the Raft hangars it can't fit into, and she's a heavy girl and falls in when you try to nose into it.

[scarlet rover]

Try keeping it level with VTOL on, then switch to 3P and look straight down to line up the sides. It'll fit.

[worthy scroll]

Yeah I found that out after trying it. But damn, you aren't getting in there without using the cheat cam.

[scarlet rover]

takes some practice to learn your dimensions haha it's possible

same with Teasa Spaceport

I like to use Z to look down once I have myself lined up to make those landings in 1st person

[worthy scroll]

I don't even know m/k keybinds for flying, I've never used them before.

[scarlet rover]

oh, well then whatever the equivalent is for your controller. I was referring to free-look

[worthy scroll]

Oh

[scarlet rover]

most cockpits have glass below or to the sides, so you can look down to line up your ship

[worthy scroll]

Be nice if the look around function while flying was worth a damn.

I despise looking around with my mouse because there's no auto center for when you're done.

[scarlet rover]

I use it while landing when flying. That's worth a damn to me.

are you on HOSAS?

[worthy scroll]

I don't think we're talking about the same function there, the look around function only moves you a few degrees in any direction. It's not usable in any sense.

[scarlet rover]

are you referring to the interact function?

[worthy scroll]

No, the look around.

For when you're sitting in your seat and flying, there is a look around function, but it's worthless.

I'm not in game so I can't get the real name of it right now.

It's the function that in other games you can map to a slew stick, and you can use it to look up, down, left, right, while sitting in your seat. But in SC, it barely moves your view.

[scarlet rover]

I'm not sure how you've had that experience, I use Free View Camera (Z on the keyboard) all the time to check my sides while flying and beneath me when landing. Definitely gives more than a few degrees.

[worthy scroll]

Different thing.

Let me log in so I can show you

It's something that people have complained about since forever, it's always worked that way.

[scarlet rover]

When you do, look in your button-binds for "Free View Camera" and test that out. I know it works for m/k so if you're having trouble I suspect it's an issue with your controller.

[worthy scroll]

I'm not taking my hands off my sticks to look around with my mouse while trying to fly into a tight space.

[scarlet rover]

but... in free look doesn't the stick control your view?

why would you take your hand off

I'm curious whether it works differently for HOSAS, so let me know what happens if you are able to try it out

[worthy scroll]

Well, I've been trying to tell you how it works for HOSAS lol.

It's something people have wanted fixed for years

[scarlet rover]

Interesting. Sounds like nonsense.

But if it only doesn't work for you because of your sticks, sounds like an inferior way of flying.

[worthy scroll]

It's just the one thing with HOTAS/HOSAS they really messed up with.

[scarlet rover]

ahh dang

I don't have sticks yet so that's good to know before I get some

[worthy scroll]

The settings you can map to an analog stick for it

Looking straight ahead, not using it.

All four directions, with full input.

So you can see how little use it has.

[scarlet rover]

I believe that is a different command. I have been referring to "Freelook (Hold)", not "Look [direction]"

so we are talking about different things

[worthy scroll]

I can use my mouse to look around though, and get full range of motion that way. But that means I need my hands on three devices, which obviously doesn't work well. And the downside is it doesn't snap back to center when you're done.

[scarlet rover]

yours is not mapped

maybe it would work if you mapped it

[worthy scroll]

Oh, I'm not talking about going into external view, I can do that sure, but why should we have to (which is something that isn't going to always be there anyway), when there is already a way to look around while sitting in the cockpit?

If they just fixed the look option, problem solved.

[scarlet rover]

these are first person controls

if you had Freelook mapped, and held it, your stick would allow you to look around the cockpit to a greater degree than you are currently able

[worthy scroll]

Or they could just fix the one thing so you don't have to hold a button, while trying to fly with two sticks, while using a mini stick to look around.

[scarlet rover]

It would be one thing to say you don't like using the control that enables one to look around. But it's not accurate to say it's not possible when you simply choose not to use the command

[worthy scroll]

It's something every other flying game out there does properly.

[astral granite]

Any chance they have fixed cat elevator yet?

[worthy scroll]

From what I've heard it isn't fixed yet.

[astral granite]

ok thx

[scarlet rover]

Look. It's fine to prefer ED or whatever. But you asked how to look around, so now you know you know how to map a button that will enable it. Choosing not to use the button is not the game's fault.