industrial-professions

[coarse cape]

usually earlier in the day i am

[marble crater]

I play on Aus & trading is borked there too lol

can get a couple runs in then everything just runs out

[coarse cape]

might just be an aus server thing lol

when im on the aus server im not having stock issue

[marble crater]

can get 1 or 2 Laranite/Med supply runs then it's slim pickings

[coarse cape]

well yeah those two are always out of stock lol

ive been running titanium without stock issue

[wild hare]

Should I purchase a ROC and mine with that, or should I rent a Prospector and mine with that?

[marble crater]

what are the profit margins on titanium?

[coarse cape]

hold on lemme pull it up

[marble crater]

I remember trying some other lower tier stuff & thought it wasn't worth the time

[coarse cape]

price is really bad for it

its supposed to have a base price of 7.1 and a base sell of 8.9

but ive seen it as high as 7.8 rn

[stiff fable]

where do I go to sell quantanium for a high price?

does orison buy for 88?

[coarse cape]

TDD

[marble crater]

Area 18 TDD to sell refined Quantainium

[stiff fable]

theres multiple tdd

[coarse cape]

any rly

[stiff fable]

is orison good to sell?

[marble crater]

Area 18 has a higher purchase rate

[stiff fable]

oh

does area 18 have a store for miniing modules?

[coarse cape]

i think?

[stiff fable]

because right now I can only fiind mining in shubin interstellar at microtech

its such a hassle to go there and back bringing with me the modules

[marble crater]

the refinery stations sell modules too

[stiff fable]

and the reststop refineries dont have them though

when i look in the misc section i can't see the modules or the mining headss.

[marble crater]

you have to scroll on the inventory list. it goes sideways as well

pretty bad design

[coarse cape]

bad design? nah

great design

[marble crater]

lol

[marble crater]

http://finder.cornerstonebase.space/ShipMiningMods

[stiff fable]

how do I scroll sideways???

[marble crater]

just mouse wheel down on the top list, it will go sideways

intuitive design

[stiff fable]

ohhhh

oh my god

what is this ui

what

it's hidden

[marble crater]

lmao get Star Citizen'd

[stiff fable]

easter egg type crap

whaaaa

Im so confused

are there other terminals like this???

oh my

[coarse cape]

i mean you can scroll sideways if you rotate your mouse sideways

[stiff fable]

ahh

[coarse cape]

there are worse

have fun with trade terminals

[stiff fable]

trade terminals do that?

I will now be forever suspicious of the terminals

[coarse cape]

no

trade terminals are just ass

[balmy nymph]

yeah, dumper's depo. in zone 2.

[toxic zinc]

anyone else having issues selling raw in a refinery

[balmy nymph]

haven't done that in ages, which terminal are you using?

[coral pond]

does the quant timer start from when you crack the rock to purple or only when you extract it?

[gritty solar]

timer starts when the quant enters ur ship

[balmy nymph]

yep, as soon as you start scooping. so prepare the rock first, get all the frags broken, have QD destination set, and know which frags you want then start collecting.

[glass lava]

Does anyone know for sure if mining gives more profit per hour than bounty hunting? Not counting time to refine of course...

[scarlet gulch]

i'm trying out a cutlass black and just bought a cargo hold full of food, but i go to the ship and there's no cargo there. do i need to load it somehow?

[marble crater]

mining has rng tied to it sometimes you'll make heaps per hour sometimes you'll be coming across nothing but 2-5% Quant rocks

having said that with how buggy bounties are this patch I generally make more mining than in combat

[glass lava]

Alright thanks for the info

[solid citrus]

how long does it take for stores to want to buy more cargo?

[rose root]

is there quant on yela?

[worldly pelican]

Hello there!

i have some question about quantanium after refinery, is it dangerous to deliver it? have we some timer there?

sorry for dumb questions, never did it before

[crimson mantle]

After refining it, quantainium is stable

[worldly pelican]

thank you, so that russians deceived me

[storm pilot]

So if I find cargo in salvaged ships and whatnot, outside loading the stuff directly into my ship what all do I need to do to sell it?

[glacial dagger]

Take it to GrimHex and sell it

[storm pilot]

Do I have to find a way to load it into the cargo or is it good enough just sitting in the ship?

[glacial dagger]

I reccomend placing each box, just to be extra safe, but most of the time, so long as their in your ship, you should be able to sell them

[storm pilot]

Cool. Thank you!

[glacial dagger]

Nw bud, happy looting

[storm pilot]

Lol hopefully it's worth doing.

[glacial dagger]

If there's any scrap, be prepaired to just chuck them out in the middle of quantum, because you cant sell that rn

[storm pilot]

Got my ship blasted out from under me last time and my buddy had to come pick me up in space lol.

[glacial dagger]

I wish more wrecks had billowing fire and smoke like the crashed satellite mission does, and that thrusters would directly affect the smoke

[slow shell]

So I tried cargo running filled my ship with tons of cargo flew to grimhex to sell and grimhex wouldn’t buy it all so is there something that calculated all that I tried the trade tool to get a good route that made the money but I don’t think it takes into account the sell point not being able to buy it all in one sell

[glacial dagger]

SC Trade Tools is pretty good at telling you what can be bought and sold where, but dont alwasy trust the numbers

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[slow shell]

That’s wat I used but it took awhile to sell everything at the port it said to sell because I had to wait for it to refresh

[glacial dagger]

Yh, it's not alwasy abotu the profits you can make with a full ship, it's about how quickly you can sell your cargo. I tend to stick to places that have alrge stock when I'm selling, so I can sell it all in one go

[slow shell]

Well that’s what I’m asking is there something that tells you how much stock a place will have that you can sell to in one load

[glacial dagger]

My default answer can and will always be...Lorvil CBD

[raw shell]

I see no significant difference of charge rate/power between the Helix II and Lancet MH2. The Helix is either broken or very much overpriced.

tried both on a 6k+ rock with fairly low resistance, 60m away. The Helix didn't raise the charge any better than the lancet.

[glacial dagger]

Helix does output mroe power, and has a further opitmal distance from the rock, meaning it's technically safer. The Lancet has built in optimal charging modifiers, making it the better laser for quant

[manic bolt]

Is smuggling drugs worth it if you have a titan or don't bother ? .

I need 1.2million more for my ship I I saving for and trying to get a lot of money fast

I am*

[glacial dagger]

Smuggling is defo worth it in the long run. * SCU of drugs multiple times? Your gonna be rich pretty quickly

[raw shell]

not sure if 5m is really significant in this case. The lancet is definitely better for quantainium stability but in terms of just trying a break a rock, I'm not seeing any advantage in the Helix II... which is what I bought it for.

[manic bolt]

@glacial dagger so what should I be buying slam?

[glacial dagger]

Quant miners almost alwasy have at least 1 lancet on their ship

[raw shell]

absolutely, it's what I use the most. I'm saying the Helix II is a scam

[glacial dagger]

I havn't done much hardcore drug running, but I believe Slam and not-widow are the better two. Stay away from Widow, places usually only buy like, 5-6 units at a time

[manic bolt]

Alright I will buy some slam when I get home and fill my titan I believe 800 units is max so hopefully I can make the last million somewhat fast

I just never did trade so

[glacial dagger]

Check SC Trade tools. It's not the msot accurate, but it can give you a rough idea on what to expect

[manic bolt]

Alright yeah I tried to go on YouTube but a lot of outdated stuff

[glacial dagger]

Just becareful of capacity, refresh rates and potential trade on other servers

[bitter flame]

Hi, what's the how much money do I need to start hauling cargo where I get sensible profit?
I am currently just doing bounty hunting to build up my cash, but would love to get back into my C2 for some good ol' hauling

[glacial dagger]

I reccomend having at least 200k in your account, never commit more than 50% of your wallet and dont try any fancy flying when coming in to land

[bitter flame]

So 200k to commit to a haul? (400 in the bank)? Or would you say that commiting 100k to a haul can be profitable enough?

[glacial dagger]

On of my usual routes cost me 139k to fill the C2, And I sell it for about 180k

[marble skiff]

Why is trading so unprofitable and risky

[gritty solar]

@bitter flame u can look up the profits from this site https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522C2%2520Hercules%2522,%2522investment%2522:1600000,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%2522Laranite%2522%255D,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522,%2522locationTypesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%2522Stanton%2520%253E%2520Crusader%2520%253E%2520Cellin%2522%255D%257D

[bitter flame]

That sounds pretty decent, I'll keep hunting till I hit around 200 then 🙂 Thanks!

[glacial dagger]

There is certainly profit to be made, and so long as you stay in the seat of your ship, 30ks will no longer yoink your money out of your hands

[bitter flame]

Yeah I have been religiously on sc-trade.tools, but I just feel that the routes I get suggested are low stock all the time :/

[glacial dagger]

Laranite is good in terms of Profit margins, but because everyone is doing it rn, stock is almost always being kept low

[gritty solar]

@bitter flame the stocks are always low.. cuz its shared with all servers.. if u lucky u get the full stock

[bitter flame]

I know - I was just hoping it had gotten better over the past couple of patches

[gritty solar]

@bitter flamei tryd some rouths with the c2 but made a priffit of 100k with 600k(i think) and about 40minutes.. so i still use my mole to get my bank

[marble skiff]

Will we get more complex cargo, like volatile materials, or ones that require modifications to your ship to accommodate?

[bitter flame]

@gritty solar What's the best way to get started with Mining? ROC Mining until I can afford a prospector?

[gritty solar]

@marble skiffyes.. the cargo will change alot when the hull C is relased.. hope it will change for the better

@bitter flamei would recomend renting a prospector ASAP and there way to change its loadout. so u can go for quant with a rented prospector..

[marble skiff]

I highly DONT recommend doing that

It glitches the ship

[bitter flame]

How much is it to rent a Prospector?

[marble skiff]

And you won't be able to rent a prospector again

[gritty solar]

@bitter flamei make like 200-400k with 1 trip.. about 15-25minutes.. with the mole

im not sure cuz i used real cash to buy the mole.. but there are guuids.. i dont know about the prospector not be renteble after u change the load out?! but if thats true u should not change the laser and just go for the other minerals

@bitter flameif u want u can rent it and i can show u the ropes.. or u can tag along on my mole

[bitter flame]

Hmm, I guess I will see how much I can save up ROC Mining the next couple of weeks and perhaps consider giving myself a late Christmas present when my paycheck rolls in 🙃

[marble skiff]

You can rent it after you modify it, it just doesn't have hardpoints on everything you changed

So if you changed the laser, it simply won't have a laser when you rent it again

[bitter flame]

Thanks for the offer @gritty solar ! Sadly I am short on time so I can't do too much for the next couple of weeks

[marble skiff]

Atleast, that's what happened to me

[gritty solar]

@bitter flamewell my offer stands, when ever u feel like it hit me up..

@marble skiffwell then u just take the laser off before the time is up and re equip it after u rent it again

[tame apex]

15-25??? you lying

[gritty solar]

@tame apexwhy would i?

[tame apex]

I mean its a loooot for such short time

atleast for me haha

[gritty solar]

there a way to tell if its quant rock from 5km away without scanning it

[tame apex]

How?

[gritty solar]

@tame apexu mine a lot?

[tame apex]

I need the tips incase I find someone with mole haha, need to save up like 700k more

[tame apex]

No

[royal lark]

Hey I'm down to tag along on the mining trip sometime around 2:30AM UTC if you're flying then

[coarse cape]

Look for red veins on the rock

It’s easier to tell if it’s an obsidian deposit

[thin escarp]

@bitter flame do not rent a prospector. i'd save up for one.

i can send ya some guides to help ya get into mining that i've made for 3.15

@tame apex i dont think he's lying i average about 600k mining run every 25 minutes.

[verbal cargo]

@thin escarp trying to solo mine in a MOLE. Is it best to go to the asteroid belt or planet side like on Lyria?

[thin escarp]

ahh in that case i'd probably go asteroid

cru l3 and hur l3 pretty ez to navigate solo not as massive as the halo

[verbal cargo]

Thanks!

[thin escarp]

@verbal cargo i can send you a copy of my guide if ya want

has tons of tips tricks how toos where toos bug fixes to mining

[tame apex]

lol 600k takes me 6-4 hours

andI need 700k so I guess you can tell

[thin escarp]

i can show ya the way man @tame apex

[tame apex]

Sure, Ill be on later if you still on

[verbal cargo]

I'd love that. Always looking for tips to improve

[thin escarp]

gotchu

[unkempt spoke]

@verbal cargo It's really easy to get popped if you solo mine in the mole so its best to find places where people won't/can't easily find you

[warped igloo]

Can someone remind me about the rented Prospector exploit

[solid wadi]

anyone wanna ROC mine?

[bitter flame]

@thin escarp would be much appreciated

[warped igloo]

Anyone need Mole pilots?

[slow shell]

What is the stock refresh rate for outposts on ariel?

[astral granite]

When im mining in the mole and aiming at rocks my scanner is aiming higher than my cursor..... I have to aim way lower than the rock to actually scan the contents. Anyone kno a workaround?

[crystal marlin]

@thin escarp Can you send me your guides as well please

[thin escarp]

Sure thing

[true portal]

Laranite supposedly refreshes at a rate of 1,389/min, released in batch every 10 mins or so (seems like)

[gray knoll]

anyone one want to team mine with propectors?

get 2 or three together

[hollow sedge]

i have a mole?

[unkempt helm]

I just bought a Mole and a second account - making insane cash but to be efficient you need the second account to multibox

[fresh ivy]

got disconnected with a hold full of refined ore, but the ship in storage

let's see if i'm lucky

answer: yes!

full MSR of quant saved

whew

[marble crater]

So there's talk of 3.16 coming soon and to not stack refinery orders. Any idea if it's true? was going to do a couple mining runs

[solemn cradle]

well 3.16 ptu is coming soon, so I doupt we'll see the ptu going live for a few days at least.

[worthy scroll]

Usually happens right before they go on their holiday break.

[hollow sedge]

found

a 49% quant rock

need help i will split profit

[marble crater]

ahh nice yeah sounds like a few days at least still. thanks!

[scarlet rover]

so when mining quant, does it always jump up and down randomly like that? or did I just get a shitty one?

[wild nacelle]

That's normal for Quantanium and why the Lancet Mining Head is the favoured tool -75% instability

[balmy nymph]

yeah, raw pure quant has 10 instability, so it's unstable as !@#$.

[astral granite]

Me and a buddy are mining in a mole and want to be able to break big rocks on lyria. What combination of lasers should we use?

[native plank]

Lancet is best

[marble crater]

5 minutes in and stumbled across this gem

of course i'm in a Prospector 😦

[wild nacelle]

You can break that

[marble crater]

it's more that I left so much behind

[astral granite]

@native plank With 8k mass rocks and high % me and buddy with both lancets cannot break rock

[marble crater]

49%, 24% & a 35%

[wild nacelle]

It's a pity you can't drop a private beacon for stuff like that

[astral granite]

@wild nacelle Hopefully in the future

[native plank]

Weird, have you tried using surge module to get it near green then both going to 100% with Lancet?

[astral granite]

Both at 100% cant get it even close to optimum

Surges work but looking for a solution without modules

Ive heard of people mismatching lasers to help

[wild nacelle]

Any good passive setups for the Prospector (Quant, of course!)

[marble crater]

Focus 3 & Torrent 3 with a Lancet head lets me crack rocks up to 5.5T but I still use a Surge just to speed up the initial crack

bad thing with that setup is if you get a bug and need to claim your Prospector, you lose those modules and they're expensive

[wild nacelle]

I was running 2x Riger 3 and a Focus 3 and felt it was harder to crack the rocks than with no modules

[marble crater]

lancet is so stable not sure why you would need a Rieger

just making it harder to deal with having more resistance

[wild nacelle]

I thought the bigger optimum window would help. I should look into the Torrent, from the sounds of it

[balmy nymph]

Lancets. All lancets. One of you sits on 0%, the other drives the power. You may need some percentage on the 0% depending on size, but they shouldn't drive the power.

and really, REALLY, don't have multiple people trying to control the power, you'll get pilot induced oscillations pretty damn quick.

[thin escarp]

@astral granite did u guys put size 2 lancet on the mole or size 1

[astral granite]

Size 2

[thin escarp]

2 lancets should def break a high quant rock

[astral granite]

Its just me and one other buddy and we cant seem to make it happen

We both at full blast and it wasnt working

Couldve just been a buggy rock

[balmy nymph]

what was the size of the rock?

and did it actually scan, or were you just pew pewing at something with no guidance? 😄

[astral granite]

8k mass rock 47%

Me and my buddy figured out a solid solution. Just running one lancet and one helix

[pseudo reef]

will work orders in refiners disappear when 3.16 hits? if it they are done/not done?

[proper hound]

anyone know if the cluster trick on halo is still work?

[south basin]

Have they said if they are going to fix ROC ping ever?

[south basin]

This usually happens, yes.

[marble crater]

if you mean sight spotting Quant clusters from 10km+ then that's gone

[proper hound]

Ouchy. I have spend like 2h flying like idiot

[kind hull]

How long will refined stuff stay in the refinery?

[glacial dagger]

As far as I can tell, they tend to stick around until collected or there is a wipe

[pallid temple]

The PTU is already here

[delicate girder]

I'm sure you're long gone, but do you have any pointers on how to find those in 3.15?

[marble crater]

sure the pointer is luck lmao. also when you get to around 4km from the ping you'll see the asteroid shapes appear & just gotta hope you see tight clusters

[delicate girder]

Yep. Knew about the tight clusters from the visual scanning days. Why did CIG have to remove that! More questions: Do you just ignore anything else except tight clusters and not even scan? How fast to you fly through the field usually? Do you just randomly wander or is there a method to how you search? I assume that was somewhere in Aaron Halo. Do you find any location better than another?

[crimson oak]

no real method while scanning is borked

tight clusters usually a good indication still though yep

[delicate girder]

What's the current scanner borkedness?

Also, I usually just spam the tab key and deployed mining head for scanning, should I be using the v key (if I recall correctly) scanning which you can use with any ship?

[crimson oak]

yep v key normally

[ember star]

They both work but "V" works at greater distances.

[verbal cargo]

Are those mining gadgets in the 3.16 ptu yet? anyone play around with them?

[bright star]

Not yet.

Probably in today's build. If it doesn't fail.

[pliant matrix]

is there a screen to buy mining head and modules in Hur L2? I see the head on wall but can't seem to find a panel or something

I only have clothing in the service zone panel

[shrewd kayak]

hover over the tabs at the top of the shop screen and scroll down.

[pliant matrix]

wow that's tricky! thx for the help 😉

[marble raptor]

Im courier level runner so level 2

but at what time do i get more earning missions?

When i have runner at full level?

[pliant matrix]

first quant mining. Must I store the ship at refinery or do I go straight to the panel?

[frail pivot]

basically as a bounty hunter each tier earns u a bit extra with an added percent bonus due to reputation with said faction

[marble raptor]

Not bounty hunter 🙂

[frail pivot]

so vhrt will earn 40k + 20% bonus if hurston sec likes me the numebrs are wrong but u ge thte poinyt

i know but im explaining the whole process

[marble raptor]

Right but i though even for delivering packages higher missions were going to unlock

[frail pivot]

Ye I’m asking do they

[thin escarp]

@pliant matrix store the ship before you go to refinery

storing the ship will stop the timer

@frail pivot might get better answers in #flight-combat-racing

[frail pivot]

Tony try going to a different planet

No I was asking a question like bounty missions what other mission types have tiers that pay more and more the more missions u do

[pliant matrix]

Thx I'd be short in time if I went straight to refinery. What process is better for maximum profit?

[thin escarp]

i'll dm you my mining guide for 3.15

i generally use ferron exhange. cause i dont like the wait

but

[pliant matrix]

sure thx a lot

[thin escarp]

dinyx solventation is the cheapest

for high yield

but thats 5 days.

the max for ferron exchange is 1 day 18 hours i think

so if a patch is coming. or you dont wanna wait

ferron is best

[glacial dagger]

Patches don't delete refinery deals, as far as I can tell

[thin escarp]

the last one did not.

but

[glacial dagger]

Well, yh, the last major patch was a wipe

[thin escarp]

3.16 is a bit bigger

[glacial dagger]

Not really

There's less to it than 3.15.1

[thin escarp]

3.14 refinery wipe

im not takin the chance

3.15.1 is like a hotfix type patch.

[undone onyx]

I want to start mining but no clue where to start any help?

[ember star]

Finding a good write up or YouTube video is the best way to learn since it’s quite involved

[storm pilot]

Probably better to ask here: can the 315p run a mining laser?

[worthy scroll]

No. And later, doubtful. It does have a nice utility slot, but I'm not sure a mining laser would be something that could go there. If we go by current mining ships, they have specific types of cargo areas for the material to be deposited to, and the 315p doesn't have that.

We'll probably get something else than can go there eventually other than a tractor beam. We just don't know what other utility items will be yet.

[storm pilot]

Alrighty.

Is hand mining EVER worth doing?

[worthy scroll]

In jail.

It's intended to be a very basic beginner way of making money.

[storm pilot]

Alrighty. I more or less assumed based on the low barrier to entry. Are there ANY mining setups that don't cost over a hundred bucks or 5 million uec to start?

[worthy scroll]

There are only two mining ships in the game right now. The Prospector costs a tad over 2m in game. The Mole is over 5.

$155 and $315 real money.

There are two other known mining ships coming, but they're both far larger and far more expensive. Both are in concept though.

[boreal fossil]

if u subscribe to rsi the ship of the month is an argo mole that u can customizse unlike a rental

really good deal for only $10

[storm pilot]

How would someone in a mole make during a day's rental if they played for 4 or so hours? Assume an hour to figure out bullshit.

[cerulean bridge]

ground vehicle mining

[boreal fossil]

i amke about 2 mill running quant in 4-5 hours ez goto lyria if it a cluster its guaranteed to have quantanium in it

[storm pilot]

Yeah I don't even know how to carry a vehicle in a ship yet.

[cerulean bridge]

IMO moles aren't all that viable yet as there aren't places to mine that benefit it. While it can be fun to multicrew mining, you're better off in a prospector or ground vehicle

[cerulean bridge]

then don't carry it in a ship, just drive from the garage out and mine with it. no ship..

[storm pilot]

Oh I didn't even think about that. Are there nodes close enough to be worth doing that?

[boreal fossil]

if ur gonna go for ground mining buy a pembroke armor set or ull cook alive

[cerulean bridge]

i'm not sure as i haven't done it but i believe so

[storm pilot]

Also how does insurance work on vehicles and ships bought in game?

[cerulean bridge]

I like prospector mining myself. i leave from CRU-L1 and QT to HUR-L3 to mine asteroids. Then back to CRU-L1 to refine. Then periodically load my cargo ship with the refined material and go sell at Lorvell

But people make lots vechile mining from what i'vev seen too

Insurance currently isn't implemented. It does nothing. At launch I'm not sure if they fully disclosed exactly how it'll work that I know of. I've always imagined it being some system that when you claim a lost ship, you don't pay the claim fee if insured. But who knows if that's right and further, what the prices will even be. Plus it's a long ways out. PErhaps someone else here has better info then I though

[storm pilot]

So if I buy a prospector in game and it blows up then it's just gone?

[cerulean bridge]

I generally buy all my ships with 10 year or LTI just because they allow it. I figure why not if you can? Whether it ends up being beneficial and how much remains to be seen

no, currently you run back to a terminal and "claim" it. You then wait a period of time and then can spawn it again. At no cost unless you want to accelerate the period of time in which case you pay a small fee

[boreal fossil]

if your gonna buy a ship with irl money check out star hangar

[storm pilot]

Oh okay!

[cerulean bridge]

if you buy a ship with real money, you never lose it. If you buy a ship with ingame money, you could lose it the next time they wipe which is very uncommon these days. in both cases you can just recall the ship at a terminal

i often use my prospector to mine, and my nomad to transport my refined material. it's pretty well suited for cargo runs of this size/sort

[storm pilot]

I've got my 300i, and plan on upgrading it in January to a 325, then possibly buying another in Feb or Mar depending. I really don't like the crazy high prices on the ships though, so I might skip that altogether.

[cerulean bridge]

a cutlass would do as well. don't need anything horribly big

[storm pilot]

How often do they do server wipes?

[cerulean bridge]

they recently did one for 3.15 because of introducing physicalized inventory which required significant changes. before that it's been what.. year and a half? maybe more?

[storm pilot]

(another ship, not a 300i)

[cerulean bridge]

you can easily earn ships in game just doing missions and having fun

[storm pilot]

Yeah, I want to buy them to support the game (assuming again that it continues to hold my interest), but I cannot stomach spending the amounts they want for the ships I see.

[cerulean bridge]

heh i know what you mean. my tolerance on that has gone up over time. initially i "splurged" on a cutlass black. Over time though, i realized i have more money then time, enjoy the game and love supporting it, and twice a year have bought something during the big sales

since i otherwise pay $0 to play it, I don't mind buying a ship now and then

and it keeps getting better as a game..

[storm pilot]

That's more or less where I'm at, but the concept of handing over more than I spend on any 5 other games for one digital ship irks me.

Are the sales significant or is it like the 10% stuff I'm seeing at the moment?

[cerulean bridge]

it's not significant in $$.. where it matters is #1-it tends to be the only time you can get an LTI token or 10 year insurance, #2-it's the only time of year where they release lots of ships to buy that are normally not available

you may not care about #1.. lots don't

but #2, there are a LOT of ships in game now. Most are not for sale until they have one of their events.

[hollow sedge]

the moment i mine a difrent ore i finde a 45% qantinium rock

[storm pilot]

TBH even the insurance thing kinda skeeves me out.

[marble crater]

Insurance will only apply on release which is probs 5 years off minimum tbh

When implemented you can just buy the insurance in game as well

[storm pilot]

Oh well that makes that less skeevy

[marble crater]

Yeah it won't be brutal like Eve where you just lose your ship and everything in it on death

for a step up above handmining you can try ROC mining with rented options. Cutlass Black is around $27K/Day and a ROC is $4K/day but it's pretty buggy tbh

[split crest]

i am very sad

lost a prospector worth of 100% quant because the game sent me to menu as i was summoning my cutty with the quant onboard

that's like 280k at least idek

:(

im not even sure if i can fix it

[cerulean bridge]

I'm confused. If the quant is onboard, why didn't you park and store it once you landed? at that point, it's secure

e.g. mine quant, QT home, run to terminal, store ship. SAFE!

[main saddle]

No I think they were referring to that they had just pulled the ship with the refined quant so they could go sell. But now the ship is in limbo.

[cerulean bridge]

oic. spawn cutty with quant on board, game drops you to main menu?

[main saddle]

That’s how I read it

[cerulean bridge]

ouch. that'd make me sad too

[main saddle]

Yeah

[split crest]

yes

[split crest]

yes

:c

[proper hound]

Still better than me got my ship blow up randomly when I park at area 18

Around 60 scu

[raw shell]

you know you can park at Baijini point, fly a small ship down and still sell your cargo in A18

[main saddle]

I was wondering about that. Hadn’t tried it yet.

[raw shell]

I park at Baijini, summon the titan and zip on down

if I crash or something, cargo is safe at Baijini

[native plank]

Connie Taurus vs Caterpillar?

Which is best at cargo transport and survivability?

[coarse cape]

@native plank Connie Taurus is good for starting out on cargo of if you have low cash to invest on with little risk. While the Cat is made for bulk cargo and a lot of investing cash which can bring in a lot of risk but brings in more reward

Taurus is medium freight and the Cat is heavy freight so

[native plank]

Being shot at who would last longer, the Cat or Taurus?

[coarse cape]

Cat

Wait hold on

Ok so Taurus has 1x s3 and Cat has 2x s2

Tho Taurus handles a bit better than the cat so it can get away quicker

plus the cat has bit more gun to defend itself with

[proper hound]

The taurus also have accessable ramp that you can put vehicle in it

[coarse cape]

^

[proper hound]

While the cat have multiple door but none of them is mean to put vehicle in

[coarse cape]

not yet at least

[proper hound]

I tried to stack the merlin those

[coarse cape]

got to wait for the modules

and the elevators

[proper hound]

It glitch out

[proper hound]

Fuk those. I want my forklift

[coarse cape]

mood

actually

i want my damn railen

[native plank]

Love the look of Connie compared to drake, wanted to find out which was better, but seeing as you pointed out it was a heavy freighter which I did not know I ca see cat is in a different class than Taurus.

[coarse cape]

yeah its not really fair to compare a medium freight to a heavy freight ship lol

both are good ships tho

[proper hound]

Connie can also use for bounty as well

[mint mica]

Same

[coarse cape]

i need my scratch wall and i need it now!

cuz why not

[fresh ivy]

aaaaaaa

just accidentally alt-F4'd instead of alt-tabbing

with an MSR full of quant

[odd snow]

Where can I buy the stampede and torpid. I've been to 3 refineries and a dumpers depot.

Unless I'm missing something, it seems like the refinery support centers only have the same four modules, a Rhine, two versions of the focus, and something else. I only see those four sitting on top of that display in the middle of the room. I don't see any others that I can buy, but all the online sources say that I should bill to buy these at the refinery centers I'm going to, and I can't find them.

[gleaming steeple]

Am I the only one that gets an invisible wall on the 135C when it's filled with cargo? Or is this a known thing? (Yes I know the 135c has no SCU space, but I'm a noob and it's the best I've got.)

[quaint cliff]

joo im currently mining in my prospector and wonder what the best mining strat is

anyone can help a new miner haha

[glacial dagger]

Go for quant, pretty much ignore everything else, and if you can, only bother cracking rocks with 30% or more quant to all but guarantee a full prospector of quant

[quaint cliff]

where to find? on planets or asteroids?

and do i need to refine it?

[glacial dagger]

I recommend the Aaron halo between CRU-L1 and ARC-L3, then refine at CRU-L1

[quaint cliff]

aight, and can i do quantanium without buyng any modules?

since im renting

[glacial dagger]

Absolutly

[brittle mauve]

Get in line buddy

[glacial dagger]

Might take a while to crack them to begin with, but yh, should be able to get through them

[quaint cliff]

and how do i jettison if it gets to close?

how does the scanning woth v work?

[glacial dagger]

Once the light is flashing, and you dont think you will make it back in time, hold F and hover over the light. There should be an option to jettison cargo

[quaint cliff]

thx

i cant use my laser for some reason

and i even found some quantanium...damn

also cant switch between mining and extraction

is that a bug?

[pliant matrix]

did they reset ptu after last patch?

[quaint cliff]

how can i get around that bug?

i cant use the mining tool at all

[quaint cliff]

so i cant do anything?

[humble magnet]

@odd snow on the shop screen terminals in refinery- hover mouse at top over the category and scroll using the mouse wheel until u see Utility tab, then you will find the rest of the consumables.

[quaint cliff]

?

[humble magnet]

@quaint cliff u in a rented prospector and cannot use mining head ?

[quaint cliff]

yep

and also cant store my complete refined diamonds

[humble magnet]

Happened to me and i relogged and it worked but the fact u cannot use any consumables limits what you can mine wirg 60% of what u find

You cannot store refined in tanks for unrefined brut minarals

[lapis magnet]

I'm fairly new, but iirc the refined stuff can't be stored in the prospector cause it's considered trade stuff

[quaint cliff]

ah damn, so how can i sell it?

[humble magnet]

U need another ship to take refined to sell at the

[quaint cliff]

aight so no refining with the prospector lol

[lapis magnet]

Prospector should still be good to mine, but to piggyback on your question, is there a rentable ship in the same price range that can easily handle the cargo?

[humble magnet]

Drake cutlass black rentable from refineries

[lapis magnet]

How much per day?

[quaint cliff]

so is it worth for all that time to refine the stuff and not just sell it raw?

but refining takes ages, ist it faster to just sell it and get a new full prospector after that

[lapis magnet]

So the black cutlass costs 27k a day to rent with a 46 scu cap

[humble magnet]

@quaint cliff there are lots of utube entries about mining in 3.15 will tell you all the tricks

[lapis magnet]

so if you mine with a rented prospector one day and get stuff refining one day, you can go back with a rented black cutlass the next to sell

is that a decent plan?

[pulsar dew]

Got to be careful not to get shot then

[lapis magnet]

I'm fresh out of the oven fresh to the game, so funds are scarce

[pulsar dew]

or get someone to transport it for you?

[lapis magnet]

Well, it looks like the prospector only has a cap of 32 scu, does that change during the refining process?

Ah, I was just refering to what you said about loading up a refinery deal larger than the ships storage

a black cutlass should be able to handle a full deal if it came from a prospector, right'?

aye

[pulsar dew]

But you can't transfer from ship a to ship b atm right?

[lapis magnet]

Mine with prospector to refinery > then load refined goods to a bc.

[pulsar dew]

Otherwise you could mine, transfer the cargo to a friends ship

[lapis magnet]

awesome, thanks iron 😄

Ah, last question. A stock prospector can't really mine quant, or should I stick with laranite

it would have to be a rented prospector to start with

[hollow sedge]

You can buy upgraded mining head though 🙂

[lapis magnet]

you can upgrade the mining head on a rental?

[hollow sedge]

Yes just make sure to remove the head before it runs out of rental

[lapis magnet]

Awwwwesome

cool cool, thanks guys 🙂

[hollow sedge]

Also if youre brand new to game. You can join orgs that have argo moles and they do mining runs with a group since mole uses 3 mining heads and 4 crew

It can help learn which mining heads are better for what. Also lets you practice mining without needing to rent a ship as they split profits

[lapis magnet]

Any org suggestions? or will any do since Im just starting?

[bright star]

[hollow sedge]

If youre new starter i would go with one of the big ones since there will be more veteran players that have a lot of knowledge and they can offer great help. I dont know if im allowed to mention any… but some star citizen youtubers with a lot of subs have them. And they do mining runs often 🙂

[lapis magnet]

Sounds good!

[quaint cliff]

i would be very interested as well 🙂

[marsh vale]

Is it worth joining a organisation to get started roc mining

Yea I'm currently renting a cutlass black so it would help with financing

Anyone's u can recommend?

I'm at school rn but maybe another time?

Yeah thanks man

[odd snow]

I don’t see any terminals in the mining services shops….

Holy crap. You know how much time I’ve wasted? The terminals say CLOTHES on them. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[humble magnet]

@odd snowyeah a bit misleading having CLOTHES written on them....

[urban flame]

Hey, I've never mined before but I'm planning on grabbing a cutlass black & roc later and giving it a go, Is there anywhere recommended to go?

I think i'm at a refinery near microtech

[thick canopy]

hey. im new to the game and were thinking of trading. but the trade posts dosnt seem to find my ship. is this a me problem or a server problem or a game problem?

[humble magnet]

all info you need guys.up to date take your time and read:https://sc-trade.tools/home

@thick canopy the trading consoles do not detect your ship ? r u trying to buy or sell ?

[thick canopy]

trying to buy

[humble magnet]

and you landed in middle of pad ?

[thick canopy]

there is no pad 😛

its on Yela NT-888-XX the SC trade tool wanted me to pick something up

NT-999-xx

[humble magnet]

may need to get closer idk never happned to me...sorry

ah

[thick canopy]

ah ok. damn all my pick up places are missing pads xD

so i need to buy a bigger ship or i wont be able to trade now. as all the small stuff places are broken? 😛

@glacial dagger well what i can se i can not do any trading cuz there is no places to pick up stuff with landing pads or maybe i have configured the SC wrong

[manic bolt]

So drugs are worthless they do not make profit at all went broke trying it

SC tools on drugs lied lop

Lol*

So what's a good legal trade should I buy and sell too. I can invest 200k and I have a rental freelancer

[thin escarp]

@glacial dagger be careful saying the word org on here chief

@manic bolt trading is kinda borked rn

drugs are super borked

worse than scrap

@thick canopy if you wear a backpack sometimes ur ship doesn't show up in trade consoles

@urban flame I can send you a mining guide for 3.15 if ya want

[thick canopy]

ok trading is broke so how about mining. lets say i have a mole what should i mine to get good profit?

[urban flame]

ooh yes pls

[subtle cradle]

Get a prospector unless you're bringing friends

[urban flame]

tfw you only have 40k credits

or whatever theyre called

[subtle cradle]

Making money with a rented prospector will take some time still though, because of the shitty standart mining head you can't change

[thin escarp]

@lapis magnet rental prospectors laser is trash you can barely break anything. its not recommended to rent.

@quaint cliff some methods take just a day or so. you can just stack them up.

[subtle cradle]

I actually don't know how to grind up enough aUEC to buy a prospector.
ROC mining is shit, rented prospector mining is shit, fps missions are very slow profit, trading sounds bugged.
So that just leaves bounties which requires a decent combat ship

Or begging for aUEC in chat

[thin escarp]

i can def show ya the ropes

get you on some mining ships

i have guides aswell. lemme know if you want those.

[subtle cradle]

I myself am good. I managed to buy a prospector and a hornet in game and am doing alot of quantanium mining and bounties

[thin escarp]

good shit!

[subtle cradle]

Well I managed to get the aUEC because of the trick you showed me @thin escarp

[thin escarp]

i thought you looked familiar

;P

[subtle cradle]

Otherwise I would've still been doing borase trying to reach 2 mil lol

[thin escarp]

you missed out on the mining op saturday we hit 20.5 million ina night

like 2350 scu of quant

[urban flame]

dayum

[thin escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-with-money-happy-withmoney-swag-dollars-more-money-gif-14116367

[subtle cradle]

Wow yeah I need to join one of your missions some day!

[thin escarp]

every saturday 10pm

est

going for 25 mil this sat.

[subtle cradle]

I would, but I'm in NZ so that's like 4-5 am for me lol

[thin escarp]

yeah i'll have another time slot soon. more EU/AUS friendly

[subtle cradle]

Nice

I think the best way for a solo newbie with a starter ship to get some good aUEC now is collecting the xmas presents around A18 @thick canopy

[thick canopy]

@subtle cradle first of. the lowerd the price. so not doing it anymore. and second of i want to play the game not run around picking up gifts

[subtle cradle]

Did they? How much are they now?
And yeah fair enough, it's boring as hell.

[thick canopy]

@subtle cradle 250 per packet

[subtle cradle]

Yeah that's not worth it at all then

[thick canopy]

nope 😛 luckely i did it abit when i started

[thin escarp]

@thick canopy yeah one of my guys made like 3 million

saw it coming

[thick canopy]

i made 700k but i didnt care to pick them all day. as i said. didnt start to pick up gifts i started to play the game 😛

[subtle cradle]

You can add me ingame if you want. I could use a Quantanium scout. I'll pay up front for any +30% rocks you find.
Ingame name is ChrisBaldBudgie

[thick canopy]

hehe. well im out on a mission with friends right now. 🙂

[subtle cradle]

I'm not online. But will be in the future, and it would be easy money for you

[urban flame]

how does that work?

[subtle cradle]

We'll be on the same server (an AUS one since I'm the one having to mine)
I'll tell you which area to go and scout and scan in whatever ship you wanna use. When you find a good rock I'll QT to you and mine it. Once it's processing in the refinery I'll transfer you the aUEC we've agreed upon

[urban flame]

oh cool

[marsh vale]

What is the best ROC mining location?

[subtle cradle]

Aberdeen. ROC mining is pretty frustrating at the moment though

[marsh vale]

Well im poor and i heard its good for money

[subtle cradle]

Well it's cheap to try out. I hope you have better luck than me

[marsh vale]

thanks

[urban flame]

why so?

[subtle cradle]

Last time I went the extraction beam was super buggy and send all the hadanite gems flying everywhere. So it took me ages driving around a 1km diameter and pick them all up

[urban flame]

oh fun

i'm gonna try it for the first time tonight hopefully 😄

[subtle cradle]

It used to be really good money.
Fly low and slow and look for that square symbol <1km away

[urban flame]

is there a specific place to try mining on aberdeen or just go anywhere?

[subtle cradle]

I just go Anderson or Norgaard (I think they're called) and fly towards the sun

Or go OM-1 and fly straight down since it's always daytime there

[thin escarp]

make sure you fly low

and fast

[subtle cradle]

Is it fast now?

[thin escarp]

i had a easier time flying pretty fast finding the roc nodes

but its been about 2 weeks

[urban flame]

some video i saw said 300ms i think?

or was it 600

idk

[thin escarp]

300-600 is decent

[urban flame]

yeah and it said to fly low (200m tops) because the gem icons only appear on a ping at like 1200m away

not that ive tried it yet

[violet epoch]

QQ Can prospector space mine effectively now or is it still primarily a surface miner?

[thin escarp]

it can

throw some modules on that

[hazy ice]

yeah

[pliant matrix]

I guess laranite is still hard to trade this patch. What other goods are available and profitable atm?

[coarse cape]

Titanium is pretty solid

[pliant matrix]

I used to do laranite/titanium run around hurston (arial iirc)

[coarse cape]

I got my own little stashes I hit from time to time when prices are low

[pliant matrix]

sc trade tools say distilled spirits are pretty good money. how are the stocks currently?

[coarse cape]

No clue. I haven’t touched those

[pliant matrix]

might do some runs. I'm tired of bounty farming. made a million on last days but my brain is slowly dying

at least until I get my own prospector and start refining a bit. Like gathering putting to refinery then go hunting

[pliant matrix]

yeah titanium isn't too bad. bought a full C2 at arial for 522k and sold it at lorville for 597k. 75k profit and took like 15 min

[thick canopy]

can you drop out ore from a MOLE or do you need to go to a station?

[dawn vessel]

Is it not always guaranteed that I would be able to mine a gem by hand?

I'm at a gem deposit that I can't seem to get the power level up enough to extract it, am I maybe doing something incorrect?

[manic bolt]

So what should I be trading since drugs screwed up my UEC. I have a Freelancer for 3 days rent, what should I buy and sell to get my 2mil back ?

Cause SC tools can't really be trusted

[crimson mantle]

I'm happy to hear about the problems you've had with the website 🙂

One thing to know: vice and drugs have are bought in very small amount, so the shops are often full.

https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq

[pliant matrix]

ahhh the drug beginner mistake. I did the same some years ago.
Gotta learn the hard way dude 😉

[crimson mantle]

If you want, to can filter out vies completely: https://i.imgur.com/jAm9Vql.png

Or use a larger "refresh rate" to avoid low-supplied/low-demand items: https://i.imgur.com/3XNgXCy.png

[crimson mantle]

In a freelancer you could try to scrape off the leftover Laranite and fill the rest in Titanium.
In a bigger ship it's not reasonable, but a in freelancer it could work.
https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Freelancer%2522,%2522investment%2522:200000,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:3300,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%255D%257D
https://i.imgur.com/OGiEvFW.png

[manic bolt]

@crimson mantle alright thank you I will see what I can do

@pliant matrix yeah I kinda wasn't happy lol lots of grinding oh well

[crisp night]

If you are Hand Mining, you need to go to caves, Hand mineable deposits must have a mass of 0.1 or less. ROC mineable deposits typically have a mass of 0.8, which the Greycat hand mining tool can't break. The deposits in caves are usually in the Hand Mineable range.

[hoary monolith]

how hard is it to fit the ROC into a freelancer? would I need the freelancer max?

I'm seeing conflicting info...

[thin escarp]

its a awkward fit

most people prefer the cutty

[hoary monolith]

does the cutty have enough scu to take completed refinery jobs?

[thin escarp]

enough for a prospector yes

a roc doesnt need to be refined

[wild nacelle]

The cutty can take 44SCU. If you get a good rock with the prospector and use a high yield refine you get about 30SCU of Quant - so can only take one refine (ie Prospector load) plus any silly little refines you had left over. You can't spit the cargo unfortunatley

[marble crater]

Seems they have patched the rental claim bug that let's you customise loadouts

[wild nacelle]

But do you have to give rentals back now?

[thin escarp]

i always need seats on my moles 😄

[marble crater]

hmm the thing I was using just let you customize the loadout, the timer still continued in the background

[wild nacelle]

So does mine - it has been "expired" for a week. As long as you land and store it safely it is there to fly again. If you ever need to make a claim - no benos

@thin escarp Are you looking for miners at the moment, or was that a general comment?

[thin escarp]

currently full right now i'll keep you posted

@wild nacelle

[next solstice]

hey guys, been away for a year or so. is trading a thing right now or not worth my time?

[lilac hedge]

sc isnt worth your time, no

[next solstice]

sad

[lilac hedge]

try again next year

[next solstice]

you mean next decade?

[lilac hedge]

yes

[next solstice]

gotcha

in all seriousness, is trading anyhow working or too buggy? Been doing bounties a bit

[bright star]

Trading is working. It's profitable, but not consistent since like any trading, the inventory is not unlimited.

And with the addition of Server Crash Recovery, trading is probably one of the most viable ways to make money atm.

[fresh ivy]

I should learn trading, one of the only loops I haven’t touched

[bright star]

Probably one of the easiest (besides box delivery).

Just buy A at location A, then sell A at location B for profit.

[fresh ivy]

Yeah, but I suspect it’s a bit more complicated than just that once you get into actually ensuring profit margins and so on

[bright star]

Sort of

You need to know which route is the best. But again, it's not the same every session.

[fresh ivy]

That part is pretty neat, different runs on different days

Seems like a good way to chill

[bright star]

Indeed

[obtuse raft]

just got the game mygself today.. it just finished dling.. was going to try trading first. but i suspect it may take a bit of learning first of some other aspects.

[bright star]

You can go to https://sc-trade.tools/ and check the "Trade routes" for possible trading routes. They're pretty accurate, but the prices may change in-game.

[fresh ivy]

Oh, nice! Will check it out, thanks!

[sharp river]

whats the cheapest ship in the game that also hauls enough to where things other than laranite can actually be worth your time to ship?

[thin escarp]

freelancer max prob

@sharp river

[coarse cape]

i would say taurus but its like 1.5 mill cheaper than a cat so

[next solstice]

@bright star thanks for the tips, turns out my ship doesn't show up on the trading console on planetary outposts... rip

[thin escarp]

@next solsticedo you have a backpack on

sometimes that bugs it

[rose root]

Second a Taurus. Can do everything. Such a good ship

[frozen harness]

So when I’m prospector minjng on lyria, what mass and percentage am I looking at for the rocks to fill my hold in one go?

[glacial dagger]

If your looking for Quant, I recommend at least 30%. You can go lower if you start using a FLTR module, and you get less inert material that way

[raw shell]

anyone know if 3.16 will wipe out refinery jobs?

It's ripe for PU release, right?

[frozen harness]

What’s the mass I want, is there not a module that filters inerts?

[raw shell]

less than 5k, unless you're really good with modules.. maybe can break a 6k

anything over 6k, don't bother unless you have a friend along in another prospector

[raw shell]

mining reference sheet: https://imgur.com/a/7Rwn1fy

[frozen harness]

Okay so I know I want a helix mining laser, and a stampede module, what other 2 modules do you recommend? I want to be able to fill my hold in one go

[raw shell]

personally - I use surge, stampede, and brandt for quantanium mining. Surge rams that bar up to the green area, stampede drives it home faster once you're in that green area, then brandt is for those rocks that make the bar jump way up and down

also, I use the lancet head.. makes the green area larger

[glacial dagger]

Similar to shipv, I use a Lancet I as well. However, I use 2xReigerC3s and 1xVauxC3

More stability and a larger optimal zone than a stock head

[frozen harness]

Okay so lancet mining head. Cool. Every video says helix

[raw shell]

supposedly the helix is more powerful... in my comparisons I see no difference

except the size of the green area

[glacial dagger]

Helix is the go to if your not fussed about that your mining. It does mean you have more power to put in to crack the larger rocks, but it doesn't come with the built in optimized that the Lancet does

[raw shell]

I was in a MOLE with the lancet on one turret, and the Helix II in another. In trying to break a 6kish rock, the helix didn't do any better in charging it than the lancet

not worth the $100k imo

[glacial dagger]

I find having two Lancet IIs and one Helix II can really help you break open the larger rocks with ease

Also, I have three FLTR3 modules on my helix, as it has a faster extraction rate than the Lancets

[sonic laurel]

if you're dedicated 3 lancet IIs can crack any rock with a nice fat comfort zone

[raw shell]

be aware that a new release is poised for dropping.. I haven't been able to get any confirmation on if it will wipe out refinery jobs or not. I've had that happen before and lost like 8 refinery jobs in process... it sucks.

[frozen harness]

Is it wiping anything else?

I have about 600k so maybe I can drop some quick jobs

[glacial dagger]

Shouldn't be much if any wiping for this, or at least nothing I have hear from anyone

[raw shell]

I doubt it, besides maybe the stuff that gets wiped from a character reset, like bounty certs or something

[broken hawk]

Anyone looking to mine? I have a Mole and Prospector.

[raw shell]

if you loan out a prospector or MOLE, can a person still get the ore and put it into a refinery?

[crimson oak]

yep

would be kinda pointless otherwise

[thick canopy]

do you need a ship to be able to retrive your refined goods?

[glacial dagger]

Nope, you can take it to any -L1 stations, as well as HUR-L2, store your ship, go down to the refinery deck and set up a refinery order. Some helpful vids on youtube if you get stuck anywhere

[thick canopy]

i have refined it

now i need to retrive it from the refiner. do i really need a ship to retrive it back from the refiner?

[glacial dagger]

Oh, sorry, Didn't see the retrieve part. Yes, you will need a chip with cargo space to haul it away to sell it. The Prospector/MOLE cant be used for this purpose, as their SCU are strictly for mined goods only

[thick canopy]

hmm. well thats stupid. so first i need a ship for 2m+ to mine at all then to even retrive my refined goods i need a hauler for 1.5ish m... so i cant use my station inventory for that. that my friend is a bad system if anything

reaaaaly new player unfriendly game mechanic🙂

[glacial dagger]

Mining is meant to be an expensive buy in mechanic, just like irl

[thick canopy]

yeah well offcourse. well its a alfa so iguess it will be easyer to earn money to buy a ingame ship when trading etc works better

[crimson oak]

fairly straight forward tbh

you can rent ships to haul the stuff if need be

so if you dont mine very often just to a 1 day rental

i think the constellation andromeda has the most cargo space of the rentals, though feel free to correct me.

[crimson oak]

you don't necessarily have to refine the ore either, could just directly sell the raw stuff in the refinery.

[rose root]

Game mechanics is fine. Rent a hauler. Few 100k for like 2 weeks

[rose root]

You can also just ask someone to haul it for you and they take like a 10% cut.

Most people will do it for free for you

[thick canopy]

@rose root you seem to think a new player have alot of money 🙂 its all fine if i get help. but renting a prospector is 55k per day and thats all good i guess it make up for it while mining low tier stuff. but renting a hauler when you dont have any cash to do it. but its all good i just need to do FPS missions for around 27 hours strait to buy the stuff i need, its all about the grind 😄

[wraith tusk]

@thick canopy I started 2 weeks ago and bought today a prospector. Really not that difficult

[thick canopy]

@wraith tusk cool. now you just need a hauler 😄

[wraith tusk]

Once I have many orders done I rent one, drive all the orders to sell and enjoy profits

You can also do roc mining which has a much cheaper buy in

[thick canopy]

that works guess with doing muli majning refiners

[verbal cargo]

If you use a lancet head with Surge, Surge, Stampede modules you can break 8k rocks no problem by yourself.

[thin escarp]

@rose root other players cannot haul someone elses goods

renting a andro for a day is like 70k. stack up orders. and that make it more worth

[rose root]

Ahh yeah true. Renting a hauler is easy and cheap.

@thick canopy you can do illegal surveillance missions in 2 minutes for 20k and they are super farmable in any ship for easy capitol.

Additionally many mining organisations advertise on here all the time for people to man argo mining lasers and the pay is insane. You'll have a lot of auec for new ships etc in no time.

It's easier than you think

[alpine burrow]

for a newbie like me, are mining and refining youtube vids for 3.12 etc as relevant for 3.15 or was there a lot of changes?

[thin escarp]

@alpine burrowi dm'd ya my 3.15 mining guide.

[alpine burrow]

thanks!

[north oyster]

Hey @thin escarp , I think the issue of me having a tough time finding Quantainium in the belt was because of where I was dropping out of QT. When I drop out at 11.5M km from ARC-L3, I find plenty, dropping out 12M km seems to be scarce hits.

[thin escarp]

Go to CRU L1. Set QT to ARC L3. Drop out of QT exactly at 12,500,000 km from ARC L3.

If you drop out 100,000 or 50,000 km's too soon, you won't be in the spot. The asteroids are not as dense if you drop out too early.

i think 12m is a dead zone

[north oyster]

I didn't realize that until last night when someone was scouting and found a ton of 30% and greater rocks

[thin escarp]

cause 12.5 is pretty legit too

[north oyster]

Best luck for me has been 11.5 and I never realized the connection

[raw shell]

Anyone know if refinery jobs will be wiped when 3.16 deploys?

[hoary monolith]

they usually are

[hardy goblet]

anyone else having a LOT of trouble with mining the last few days? seems super sparse compared to last week, and a lot more bugs.

[tame kraken]

New player with a hauler looking to learn how to essentially haul peoples shit

[edgy skiff]

if i reset my account, will i lose my orders?

[crimson oak]

im not sure steve but i'd say thats highly likely

[crimson oak]

no more than usual here

[worthy scroll]

What do you mean reset your account?

[edgy skiff]

do an account reset in the hanger. i no longer have a head, cant access skyline or really anything now. so was wonder if id lose orders I have ongoing

[coarse cape]

you shouldnt iirc

[scarlet rover]

Try making friends, it's pretty easy with this Discord and the Spectrum tools

[subtle cradle]

Could someone send me/link the spreadsheet of the refining methods cost vs time vs result?
I saw it once but now I can't find it

[barren meadow]

For solo mining with a S2 laser, what head and modules would be better? (Passive modules preferred). Should I just stick with the Helix?

[scarlet rover]

Let me dig see if I can find it

[subtle cradle]

That would be awesome thanks mate. I've really tried on google but it's all minable values so far

[crimson oak]

If you're mining Quant go with Lancet, Helix is great for all other ores. Modules wise I always run Surge, Stampede and the 3rd is a passive module which i switch between depending on mood, right now its Vaux-C3 or something like that, which gives -10% instability which is nice with Quant which is what i mainly focus on.

Focus or Torrent, the one that gives + laser power aint too bad either.

[scarlet rover]

boom

[barren meadow]

Nah, not mining Quant with a Mole @crimson oak Just mining everything else!

[scarlet rover]

Basically: big green bars are good, big red bars are bad

it's sorted by most least profitable to most profitable - total potential profits, not over time

but that should help you make choices based on how quickly you need a return, or whether you can wait for max value

[crimson oak]

oh solo mining, i just assumed quant in a prospector. Either way those modules are a decent choice.

[barren meadow]

Cheers mate! I appreciate it !

[subtle cradle]

That's awesome thank you so much. I might have scrolled past it tbh since it looks alot like the minable prices one.
I normally always go Dinyx, but I gotta make alot of money this weekend if I'm gonna buy the C2 before xmas

So I need shorter refining times

[scarlet rover]

try Ferron

[crimson oak]

I finally bought a C2 earlier, the rental finally bugged out.

[scarlet rover]

it's a lot faster than Dinyx, yields almost as much, but requires more capital investment in processing

so you should get the most yield in not too long a time, if you have cash to put up against it

[subtle cradle]

When I get my C2 I'm just gonna mine everything Laranite and up right at CRU L1

But in my Raft it's hardly worth the trip to sell

[remote thistle]

so iv been trying to mine and figure out what works best

i got a roc but with out a ship to move it around and find rocks in it seems like a huge wast of time

[scarlet rover]

I've got a RAFT and an MSR right now and I'm considering which to CCU and which to keep

[remote thistle]

on the other hand if i buy the ship to move it in im looking at 1.5 mill between the roc and ship at witch point i might as well go straight to the prospector so whats the point in the roc?

[subtle cradle]

Well at least the MSR isn't trying to kill you everytime you board and exit it lol

[scarlet rover]

look, my RAFT loves me! he says it's my fault he throws me down the elevator

[remote thistle]

at that point im almost better off hand mining and useing the 300i i already have what is your thoughts on it?

[scarlet rover]

then he buys me flowers

[amber pulsar]

Im trying to get into the Commodity trading game and Im trying to sell medical supplies at a place thats buying for a high price on the Commodity Alerts. I have a hold of 100,000ish worth, but its literally only letting me sell 300UEC worth at a time.... what gives here?
now I cant even sell it did I just punk myself out of 100k

[scarlet rover]

Prices and supplies in game are modeled after the buy and sell orders we place. In addition, smaller outposts have smaller demand

a TDD might buy huge amounts but they're looking for minerals, resources etc

a small outpost will buy med or agri supplies but doesn't need that much

the NPC buy and sell demands refresh over time after their orders have been met by players

so you can either sit there waiting for them to go through their supplies or bus your cargo to another outpost to sell to

[crimson oak]

try major cities

TDD trade centers

they usually take a big load of medical supplies all at once, depending on how active the servers are.

[amber pulsar]

thats what I had to do - I was trying to play along with the Understock/Overstock alerts

[crimson oak]

yeah those dont really.. work too well

[amber pulsar]

sigh. Im desperate for something new to do in game haha

[crimson oak]

maybe try other routes

different commodities, see if you can find a convenient chain to hop between

maybe im too easily pleased but im quite happy just mining quant and when ive enough quant in my c2 i usually hop between a few outposts for some trading on my way to a major city and unload it all together. Saving up for the Ares Inferno when it's finally out and buyable ingame 😄

[scarlet rover]

This can be a helpful tool for plotting routes, but it's not real time data. It's "base" data if demand was maxed
https://sc-trade.tools/home

[thin escarp]

@remote thistle prospector is solid

roc is ehhh

you gotta have that RNG and have no bugs. and know what your doing

you can average about 200-275k a run in a prospector

if its got the correct loadout

[delicate sleet]

pinned mining tutorial link still relevant?

[delicate sleet]

has CIG fixed order duping? saw it in some video

[marble crater]

the refinery dupe glory days are over

[delicate sleet]

dumb question but where is mining consumables on gallog?

[remote thistle]

@delicate sleet you play eve echos?

i no a corp in echoes with the ign tag

[tranquil mist]

Best places to mine?

[reef narwhal]

the Stanton system

[north oyster]

What are you mining in? Hand mining, ROC, or ship (Prospector or MOLE)?

Hand mining will be in caves, (you can get quest to find a person), ROC mining is Aberdeen or Arial. Ship is Lyria or Aaron's Halo

[bright star]

[north oyster]

ROC mining is messed up at the moment, barely worth the effort. The Rental Prospector is garbage. Sadly there are blockers that make getting started an uphill battle but it is worth it in the long haul

[urban flame]

i did alright in the roc last night

managed to triple the amount of aUEC i had from 20k to 60k lmao

[north oyster]

Yeah, I miss the days of 270k aUEC runs

I did hit 99k but it took awhile

[urban flame]

I didnt fill the roc, only flew around to find 5 rocks between 2 nodes to mine as it was late and i was just figuring out how to do it all as id never mined before

[tranquil mist]

Mining with a mate in a mole. Been ages since I’ve mined, got a lot to learn. Ended up mining in calliope found a decent amount of Laranite. I’m not even sure if it’s worth refining it, the yield stats confused me

[tranquil mist]

Thanks for the help, will try space mining next

[north oyster]

Refining is complex because it's part of the game play loop. Refining gets you twice the earnings over selling raw.

Laranite does offer good yield. As you may realize, Quantainium is the "gold" standard for ores

[north oyster]

If you start at CRU-L1 and aim for ARC-L3. Drop out of the quantum jump at 11.5M Km from ARC-L3. Good finds for Quantainium normally there. I don't see it being very useful for other ore types

[raw shell]

any predictions on when 3.16 will drop? Waiting to mine so I don't loose refinery jobs

[near pilot]

quick tips on how to search for minerals deposits?

I just got ROC

[glacial dagger]

<80m/s, Fly as low as you can, ping constantly

[near pilot]

using v button?

[glacial dagger]

TAB

Ping, not scan

[raw shell]

watch for the cubes that are 2,000km or less on pings. Those will be ROC minable deposits. The diamond icons will usually pop up right under you and vanish fast, depending on how fast you are going.

[coral pond]

What section of Aaron halo has the most Quant?

I know it has bands that have different distribution

[delicate sleet]

Nah

[near pilot]

if I mine roc on ground then take it to refineries then sale. or sale raw?

[urban flame]

you cant refine roc ore i think

[raw shell]

you take it to the Admin office trade terminals and just sell it

[urban flame]

it also wont show up for sale if the ore is inside the Roc and the Roc is inside your ship. You need to drive the Roc out of the ship first

took me a while to figure that out last night

[raw shell]

really? that always worked for me, even with the roc in the ship and the ship stored on the station

I haven't done it recently but it always worked

[urban flame]

oh i didnt have the ship/roc stored, i had it landed on a pad on aberdeen somewhere selling there

[raw shell]

I haven't tried selling on a moon pad. I usually mined on Daymar then went to sell at CRU L1, maybe that's a difference

[urban flame]

ah i picked up the roc at aberdeen and mined and sold at the same place

[thin escarp]

@tranquil mist i can send you my mining guide for 3.15 if ya want

@near pilot you can sell that stuff right on planet at a mining facility

[eager ridge]

where do i sell commodity cargo? i dont know if thats the name but im new to the game.

[subtle cradle]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[rancid egret]

Hello friends, i've got a little question about the Mole mining. im not looking to make a TONE of money, just wanna casually mine here and there. if i were to mine lets say "normal" ore with the mole from large boulders on the planet surfce or in space (asteroids) what kind of profit and how often can i fill up my storage with stuff? can i land at an outpost and just sell it all off like i do with my ROC?

like, if i could make 200 - 250k per fully loaded Mole run, id be super content with that. even 100k would be super duper

[north oyster]

The scan will fail on the ship most of the time, you will need to zoom in and check the vein coloring for hadinite

[near pilot]

what colour should I looking for? red?

[fresh ivy]

The Mole is kind of an odd choice for casual mining, unless it's casual mining with a friend or two. The Prospector is a somewhat better choice for that I'd say (and cheaper).

Raw ore you pick up can be sold directly to a refinery if you want the lowest possible effort cash, but it's recommended to actually take the time to refine since your returns are MUCH better if you're willing to wait a few hours/up to a day to cash out. Once it's refined, you can sell it at the resource terminals in cities/outposts (but different terminal than ROC sales, which tripped me up at first).

200-250k for a fully loaded Mole is extremely reasonable, my buddy and I split that on the regular without really even trying, and can do much better if we find a good quant cluster and things come together nicely for us

[rancid egret]

thts great news, because the thing is i like to netflix/youtube/music while mining so having a volotile timer (15min) seems to add stress and i may be unaware and blow up. so i'd prefer to not mine stuff like that hahaha but honestly i just wanna casual fly around. the reason why mole, cause i upgraded my andromeda to a mole with CCU. i didnt like having to constantly carry and take out and put back in the ROC on my andro. and my game crashes often cause of my pc being under spec for this game. so id prefer to just get a ship to just go right away and start mining without having to do all this setup for something like just gem mining

[fresh ivy]

Mole is a bit annoying to solo mine in because you have to keep hopping out of the pilot seat but it's not unworkable

[midnight egret]

Can any snub ships (merlin, m50) fit in the Taurus' elevator bay? Surprised I haven't seen a video about what fits in it by now.

[hollow sedge]

merlin can fit in the taurus for sure but i dont think the m50 can unless you snap off a wing

[delicate sleet]

how big of rocks can i mine in the prospector

and how do i know if the rock is too big?

[fresh ivy]

Depends on the laser head you're using

[fresh ivy]

You know the rock is too big if the meter on the right isn't going up

mining heads are an equipment slot on the ship

[delicate sleet]

is there an aprox mass thats too big ?

huh

the bar never went up

but the rock blew up

[fresh ivy]

sec need to get 29.8scu of quant safe

best haul i've ever had

ok

[delicate sleet]

i think the brightness was fucked

[wild nacelle]

I’d say anything above 5100 is too much for a Prospector. You might manage more, with the right setup but 5000 is hard work with a basic MH1 Lancet

[fresh ivy]

So in that screenshot, I can see that your charge level is about 25% through the white part of the bar

it's VERY hard to see, especially against bright backgrounds

[delicate sleet]

ah

ye

i didnt think it would be that impossibly hard to see

[fresh ivy]

it's... not great, really needs some visibility/accessibility tweaks imo

it's paired with a black bar but it's very easy for neither to be visible

[verbal cargo]

You can mine any size rock with lancet head and surge, surge, stampede modules

[spare pewter]

Should I buy the roc?

[wooden crown]

You can just rent in game right?

[thin escarp]

@rancid egret i dm'd ya some info and a guide.

on mining

@wild nacelle def have some loadouts for prospectors that can get bigger rocks. but its more difficult for sure

[delicate sleet]

there any way to get rid of the like bloom

[obtuse raft]

id like to see the guide too 🙂

[sharp river]

can you make money selling drugs right now?

[scarlet rover]

I have not tried, but have read people are having trouble selling drugs

seems like most commodities are still inflated due to high trade activity during IAE

[hollow sedge]

came out here to mine in my mole

no asteroids tho

what do

first time trying

[scarlet rover]

https://cornerstonebase.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

This page has instructions on how to reach the Aaron Halo (asteroid belt) bands

the ones depicted on the minimap are inaccurate

[balmy nymph]

Yeah that's about right. I broke a 5800 with a Prospector but it was fiddly and annoying and I only barely did with the Surge.

[wraith tusk]

How do you guys cargo all the refined stuff. Is it worth it to buy a ship for that (ingame) or is renting the way to go? (Freelancer or constellation?)

[wild nacelle]

I rented a Cutty Black (which I think is available at most of the refineries and about 44,000). Mine glitched and is still available to me a few weeks later. The biggest downside to this is it can only carry 44SCU. A decent Prospector haul will give you 30SCU of Quant, so you have to make a cargo run to every mining run. If you have or can rent a bigger ship I'd strongly advise it

[wraith tusk]

I mean yes the idea is more to haul multiple orders, but other than the constellation there is nothing else other than buying or?

Hmm might be worth it if I use the constellation to do other things that I can't with the prospector..sorry just thi king out loud here :-)

[wild nacelle]

As far as I'm aware. The Connie is the biggest cargo load you can hire. Still only 92SCU. Unfortunately you can't borrow a ship to do this.

Another tip - if you have something big like the Connie. Rather than fly down through the atmosphere and land at an awkward city hanger just land at the space station above the city. You can then claim any small nimble ship and when you reach the Trade console your big ship's inventory will be available to you

[wraith tusk]

That's good advice. Thankfully I got this anvil arrow to use as I don't have a small figher

[wild nacelle]

Did you buy yours? Mine just appeared in my fleet one day. I have no idea from whence it came

[wraith tusk]

They give you one so you can play arena commander but it is usable for the PU. If your pledge is not a fighter you get this one

[wild nacelle]

That makes sense. It appeared around the time I upgraded my Titan to a 300i

[wraith tusk]

Yeah same for me when my titan became a prospector

[wild nacelle]

What do you mean? Have you ever been hit by a Prospector laser? It ***** hurts! I'd call that a fighter!

[wraith tusk]

Can always use it to ram into others :-)

Silver bullet fully loaded with quant is the new meta against all those big ships

[wild nacelle]

LOL

[balmy nymph]

Connie is also an alright combat ship as well as hauler. So if you don't have any fighter options you can at least use that for bounties as well as hauling refined stuff.

[wraith tusk]

Yeah I guess I will use it to make back the money it costed renting and good to take some mi ing breaks too :-)

[broken hawk]

Looking to do some mining with one to two more people. I have a Mole and Prospector.

[reef narwhal]

Anyone know why I can't fly direct to Lyria FROM Arc L1 (Have to go via Arccorp i.e. 2 jumps) but I can fly direct to ArcL1 FROM Lyria (1 jump) for refining/mining etc.

[balmy nymph]

Flying to a satellite of a planet requires going to the larger body first.

So if you go to Lyria from outside ArcCorp's SOI you have to hit ArcCorp first. But leaving Lyria to ARC-L1 is one trip because that is the dominant body in that SOI.

[reef narwhal]

Yeah the process I understand, but if I can track a quantum route from Lyria to ARCL1, why then can't I follow the exact same course, but in the opposite direction? Seems redundant that it works in only one direction and not the other.

[thin escarp]

@hollow sedge@obtuse raft sent both of you guys my 3.15 mining guide good luck!

@reef narwhal feels man. ive done 1000s of runs and its been like that for ages.

[near pilot]

hard to find roc minerals deports

[thin escarp]

fly really low

on aberdeen

whatever speeed you feel comfy flyin at

@near pilot

[near pilot]

only can see big rock but dont think that is mineable

[reef narwhal]

Same... I mean it's not a massive inconvenience, maybe an extra minute and a half at most. I was just curious as to why it works one way and not the other.

[balmy nymph]

Because quantum

[fresh ivy]

Is there a way to check the status of all of my orders regardless of where I am, or do I have to go to each refinery?

[thin escarp]

i pretty much just use the same refinery

[reef narwhal]

oh man that would be sick if you could do that, but no sadly...not yet at least

[thin escarp]

but generally you get a messsage when u log in if somethings done somewhere

[fresh ivy]

I had to drop off some quant in a nonstandard station because I pushed my luck too far

[thin escarp]

nonstandard?

[fresh ivy]

Like, outside my usual run

so I have refinery runs going in two places

[thin escarp]

ahh

happens

i try to stick to arc l1 😄

[fresh ivy]

same

in this case a buddy of mine and i had a mole with 88scu of quant, had to divert to MIC L1 because of where we were in the belt

barely made it, landed the ship with 90 seconds on the clock

[thin escarp]

yeah i have 22 workorders at arc l1. and 4 at hur l2 😄

[reef narwhal]

Jackpot 🤘 Anyone want some? I can wait here for a while

[thick canopy]

what ships are the fastes most agile ship to scan for ore in. talking about a small ship that is

[pliant matrix]

Any light fighter like arrow gladius or even talon who offer a better view of the ground. Also small ships like 100i aurora etc

[thick canopy]

thanks 🙂

[glacial dagger]

Question is...what percentages were they?

[crimson mantle]

Wow! Unless it's 2 clusters together, 10 is the maximum amount of rocks that can ben generated in one spot! https://sc-trade.tools/deposits/Quantainium Deposit
Lucky find! Only 2.6% of clusters are that big 😄

[eager comet]

anyone here done the Not So Secret Stash contract?

[crimson oak]

nope, sounds interesting though

[near pilot]

roc need fuel?

[crimson oak]

nope, doesnt need fuel

might need a repair now and again though

[near pilot]

my roc will not come out of hanger

[crimson oak]

what do ya mean? is the engine on?

last resort just reclaim it

[near pilot]

yeah it system on and engine on

bed log off dont work

lol

got new one but old one stuck inside the hanger

[hot orchid]

How much can you expect to earn per hour solo with a ROC and a cutty black?

[rich mango]

id say 100-150k / hr

[crimson oak]

yeah around that, up to 200k for a full load

[thin escarp]

you also gotta have rng

and know what ur doing

and pray for no bugs

like the other guy hit

[frozen harness]

Guys where the f is the terminal in the refinery area at arc l1 to buy a mining head

They are on the wall but the terminal is a clothes terminal

Nvm

[thin escarp]

@frozen harness scroll right on it

[twin sentinel]

Does anybody have a table of the desired mineables for ROC mining kind of like this one?

[stuck vale]

That is for ROC mining

[twin sentinel]

thanks!

[hoary monolith]

Is there any cargo worth hauling in a cutty black?

[frozen harness]

What’s the drop range to get to Aaron’s halo from arc l1? If Hurston is my target

Or rather hur l5

[tardy cosmos]

Dunno bout that specifically but

[scarlet rover]

@frozen harness @tardy cosmos

[tardy cosmos]

Oh yeah, forgot cornerstone had other stuff than the item finder

[scarlet rover]

For any folks still looking for Aaron Halo routes:
https://cornerstonebase.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[marsh vale]

What refinery method should i use for quantum

[heady elm]

are passive modules for mining lasers any good ?

[ruby moth]

if you don't mind waiting, Dinyx gives you the most yield for the lowest price

[marsh vale]

Thanks

[glacial dagger]

Yes. I reccomend passive ones so you dont need to normally replace them. I like using 2xReigerC3 and 1xVauxC3

[north oyster]

Just remember that passive modules will vanish like active ones because they don't persist. One crash and they're gone

[visual dagger]

how much did you get for that

[heady elm]

@glacial dagger@north oyster thx for tips

[glacial dagger]

Nw Bud. Also, Lancet mining lasers for quantainium

[heady elm]

that can be expensive then

[north oyster]

Very quickly, imo. Surge is the only module I use now

[glacial dagger]

Can be, but most 30k's, so long as your in the seat of the ship, can now save your ship

[reef narwhal]

Could only get juuuust under 32 SCU in. 31.99 so maybe $270k refined not including refining fee (Dinx), fuel costs etc.

[reef narwhal]

Oh no way I had no idea 10x nodes was a bit of a rarity! Noice 🤘🤘

[reef narwhal]

Almost one of each, but 2 of them were 40+% so was easy to extract only 100% quant nodes until I was full

Well almost full

Can't ever seem to get exactly 32 SCU

[glacial dagger]

Ooh, that sounds like potentially full moles

[reef narwhal]

Yeah I was hoping a mole owner might come along and share the booty 😆

[crisp bison]

mining in jail, ore deposit says transaction failed. doing it wrong or is it fubar?

[ruby moth]

Log to a new server. Been an issue for a while

[scarlet rover]

Analysis of processing methods

[visual dagger]

so does that mean dinyx is the best

i know nothing about mining yet

[marsh vale]

ye but take very long

mine is gonna take 1 day

[thin escarp]

ferron is greaty

if u dont wanna wait

[visual dagger]

I don't mind

It'll be like waiting for your clash of clans town hall to update

(I haven't played clash of clans in 9 years dont bully me)

[thin escarp]

its essentially the same output as dinyx

way less time for like

15-20k more

which if your mining quant. is nothing

[main saddle]

When I originally put that analysis together for Laranite at Arc L1, yeah, I found that ferron would be good for me since I can only play the weekends