industrial-professions

[hollow sedge]

if that was the first rock, then its a bug for sure

star citizen isnt known for its stability after all

[native plank]

The extractable pieces had quant for sure but I know I had plenty time to grab all the quant and book it.

[native plank]

That might explain it

[hollow sedge]

yea. u def should have enough time to get it

you should have plenty of time if you're experienced

[native plank]

Got the Prospector yesterday and tried mining today with all the stuff I needed. Done 1 great run 45% quant etc , second run found barely any quant and accidentally blew up a rock and now third run it blew up on me for some reason.

Well it won't turn me off from mining just yet, beats the boring grind of BH.

[hollow sedge]

until that gets boring too

😅

[native plank]

Although I do have 1 other question, are modules really that important? Mined my first run without using it (even though I had it equipped) because I didn't know how to activate it and mined the 45% just fine. Now in this run I did use the surge and it helped reach it quicker but I felt I could mine it the same way without the module.

[native plank]

I don't doubt that it will but at least it helps break into another game loop which is more chill than BH. Plus it let's me mine a bit do other stuff and let the money make itself overnight.

[hollow sedge]

yes modules are very important

they can be the only reason u get a rock

you'll see when you go for bigger rocks

[native plank]

Ah I see

I guess the only reason getting the modules is something that annoys me is that it's in PO so I have to go and comeback every time...

Then again now that I think about it I could just buy them in bulk since each 1 has 5 uses before it is unusable.

[rose root]

boys the tarus holds how much scu? also with the same guns is it just the andromeda but with more storage?

[umbral fossil]

Alright, so... MSR... I don't know, it feels to me like I can get similar quality gameplay out of a RAFT. Granted, the MSR has the whole data thing going on, and it still has a damn good flight model for it's size, but I don't know... The ship feels off. Like the Andromeda feels like a much better ship. Pretty much the same role, but it can fight, tons of missiles and a snub.

Feels like there's no real reason to have and fly the MSR except "I like the ship"

[scarlet rover]

what do modules do?

[hollow sedge]

all sorts

[umbral fossil]

Taurus has no snub fighter in the back. And it has less missiles. And it holds 174 SCU

[rose root]

Damn that's alot of storage. With 2 people on the turrets though surely you could handle VRHTs

[hollow sedge]

ayup

[hollow sedge]

an aurora can do vhrts

[native plank]

Is the Taurus any good? I've heard the snuh fighter isn't the best either way so freeing it up for cargo space sounds better I think. Plus I hear solo with gimbals for pilot makes bounty hunting a breeze.

[umbral fossil]

To me, the Taurus feels like one of the best bang for your buck ships.

[azure heath]

is helix still the way to go for the prospector?

[delicate girder]

Agreed. The MSR is like at least half the Origin ships where it's a nice ship but there's lots more functional options.

[rose root]

MSR is a bounty hunting monster crewed. goes from average to nightmare fuel with the two turrets manned. very under-rated in that department

[umbral fossil]

Got way more optimized ships for combat 😄 Like the Redeemer ^^

[delicate girder]

Even when you take that into account there's still tons better.

[rose root]

Absolutely. but you should buy a ship on how much you like it. So if you like the MSR and its interior, despite half the ship not being in the game yet, it can absolutely shred.

Shouldnt go on the current "meta" just because discord says so

[umbral fossil]

Yep, that's it, I'm basically using the MSR as an "investment" since it's price jumped by 40 dollars and CCUing to something else, and getting a RAFT.

[rose root]

or because "it can be done better"

[umbral fossil]

The RAFT gives the space trucker feel, and I love that.

[delicate girder]

True, but personally, I don't like the ship for several reasons. I don't like all the doors. I don't like the sounds inside. ...

[rose root]

dude fair...its not for you 🙂

I just worry about new people buying ships because "there better than x ship" when everyone should fly what they love the vibe of.

Fuck even a cutty black can shred with someone on the turret.

[delicate girder]

I'm more into the smaller ships, but that may change when more of the DoaSM kicks in. I hope not though.

[rose root]

Love the smaller ships

[umbral fossil]

The MSR is inconvenient, it might have a nice exterior. But that's not everything.

The interior is badly laid out, it doesn't have much going for it. It just feels like it's not a practical ship. It doesn't feel like a flying home either.

[rose root]

eerry one wants a capitol ship, fuck that noise

[rose root]

absolutely correct. You're 100% entitled to your opinion. It's how you feel when you step onto a ship that should determine if you buy it

I like it because i like the vibe.

all our opinions are correct really.

[delicate girder]

Agreed. For me it's all about function over form. At first, I really hated the Connies because of their look, bad visability, etc but now I love them because they're so damn useful!!!

[umbral fossil]

I was just seeing if there are people that think the same as I do, because I haven't used it all that much, since it felt off, and wanted to see, if it's because I'm not doing something fun I could be doing with it.

[polar flame]

meh ... i dont want a cap ship. What I want is a ship that I can call home out in deep space that has all the things I need to say 'fuck civilization' All i really need is a med bed to spawn in and a hangar big enough to fit something other than a pisces (even tho i am really starting to like the pisces)

[umbral fossil]

BMM 😫

[rose root]

I love this. I would like that too. It just seems to only be available in giant concept ships at the moment haha. I want a one -two man version of this

[polar flame]

or. .. odyssey? dunno yet. I currently own a path to all 3: carrack, odyssey, and BMM

[rose root]

The carrack has only been out of concept for a year I think and they've realeased the Odyssey. so in a year they will release an even bigger ship that does the Odyssesy better haha

[umbral fossil]

Odyssey is the fuck everyone option, Carrack is the "I'll find a way to places where you can disappear to fuck over everyone"
And the BMM is just a "I got mah own space whale" vibe of fuck everyone.

[polar flame]

Yeah. I dont know how interested i am in setting up a floating space mall. Everything else about the BMM looks great tho

[umbral fossil]

Just because you can, doesn't mean you have to 😉 And imagine opening a space mall, dragging players to your location, for them to find out you're selling space dildos.

[polar flame]

... with HURSTON DYNAMICS stamped on them 😄

[umbral fossil]

With regards to Odyssey, it's a self sufficient ship, yes. But the Carrack's got giant antennae and drones. A giant mapping computer, it's main job is to find new routes and jump points. Something you'll be getting cash from. The Odyssey seems like it can only explore by flying to places.

[polar flame]

thats assuming thats what everyone wants to do

not everyone wants to 'find' the jump points

some just like to explore what other folks have found

[umbral fossil]

Yeah, I'm not saying that, it's just that everyone's saying the Odyssey is a Carrack killer "omg, CIG released a ship that's just better than the previous king in this class" They are just different 😛

[polar flame]

Carrack: HEY GUYS!!! I found a new jump point!!! Odyssey: OK ... See you in a few months! I'll let you know what I find

well people are not very smart lol

[rose root]

It's that they released it one year after the Carrack came out. They are creating very expensive powercreep and fomo to make $$

[polar flame]

they are 2 ships in the same class with 2 different rolls

[umbral fossil]

And the Carrack is also better to explore hostile environment, more armor and more weaponry.

[rose root]

Issue is we are SO far away from jump points etc, we are 8 years into real development and we have one system. I think they might have to go back on that one unfortunately or release it when we are in nursing homes😂

[umbral fossil]

Exploration remains one of the most anticipated professions, I guess that is the main reason they are making ships in this department.

[umbral fossil]

I can see Pyro coming to live next year.

[rose root]

100%. Hyped for explo myself. But I think its SOOO far away given there's been zero on it for the last 5 years

[polar flame]

yeah. They have to either figure out how to 'dynamically' create systems on the fly, or water down the whole jump point discovery thing

[rose root]

Theyve hired those studios in the UK to make Pyro, I'm scared it's going to be rushed, or more like stanton which is just a pretty tech demo at this point

Like I'm actually all for just keeping stanton atm but getting more loops into the game THEN making pyro etc

[umbral fossil]

With the first jump point in game, I can see a mechanic, where you can try to find a jump point and when found, it will temporarily unlock a path to a closed off location, there could be some kind of loot, combat engagement and high rewards and whatever.

[rose root]

That would be sick, like scanning down explo sites in EVE online. and you could do it in stanton now, just create random number generators to warp too

[umbral fossil]

Exactly

[polar flame]

The biggest challenge is going to be the UI.

[rose root]

Ok I am ready for CIG to hire us now. I'm a nurse in RL so I'd love to fix their medical system for them haha, lets go

[umbral fossil]

Always is 😛

[polar flame]

They are spectacularly bad at making UIs that arent poop

[delicate girder]

Agreed. SpaceX may be on Mars before CIG develops proper exploration in this game.

[rose root]

The fact that I can treat an injury in SC, and an NPC relative doesn't spawn in and tell me they googled and im doing it wrong, is just soo unrealistic. need to patch that

[rose root]

You're making me sad. I'm a sci fi explo junkie haha

[polar flame]

like seriously ... who TF thought it was a good idea to make all HUD elements glitch out?!? as an effect?!?

[delicate girder]

Unforunately, the best space exploration game is a cartoon. NMS!

[umbral fossil]

I kinda like it..? Don't crucify me!

[rose root]

Yeah that game is incredible now though, full credit to those devs. The eplo in elite dangerous is pretty damn good too

[umbral fossil]

For real, that game is so relaxing.

[polar flame]

I HATE IT ... especially when mining

I love NMS

[umbral fossil]

Fair enough, I've never mined 😦 I'm mostly bounty hunting.

[rose root]

I love ROC mining, brought a prospector just to find I dislike the ship mining so far lol 😦

[delicate girder]

I like Elite Dangerous for what it is too, but it's only good exploration if you like exporing the same thing over and over and over. NMS is some like that too but not nearly as bad because of player developed content!!!!!

[rose root]

the idea that I can't jettison inert materials from a propspector in a sci fi game is just mind blowing to me

[polar flame]

Seriously tho ... my new truck has a more futuristic looking UX than the ships in SC do. its madening

[rose root]

but it's got a nice water tap in it so it has that going for it

[polar flame]

1000 years in the future and we've regressed tremendously

[native plank]

How do you do that? Got no clue what the key is

[polar flame]

you cant

[native plank]

At least for Prospector

You can't?

[polar flame]

nope

its part of the 'gameplay loop'

[native plank]

So when it tells me throw that quant out the door it's just a place holder?

[rose root]

You can't . you can only jettison all

[polar flame]

mining in SC = inert material avoidance simulator

[rose root]

LOL

[native plank]

How do I do that? Had a bug where probably had 10units not SCU of quant and the game made those volatile 10secodns after picking it up. If I knew how to jet it might have still made some cash, assuming the bug didn't happen to the rest of the ore.

[rose root]

I am unsure of the keybind sorry Arcane

I spent an hour in my prospector and now I'm resiting the urge to melt it lol

I'll take my suicidal barely working ROC over the pain that is space mining atm haha

[delicate girder]

I have to say we'd really have something if we could comind the best of Elite Dangerous mining and SC mining!

[rose root]

Omg that would be amazing

[polar flame]

The problem is that CIG would overcomplicate it so bad that it would be terrible. Re-inventing the wheel (BUT THIS TIME WITH FLAT SIDES!) is kinda their thing

[rose root]

Ok new plan. we all get on spectrum and grab our pitchforks and we get CIG to buy Frontier so we can merge the two games

[polar flame]

Oh god

[rose root]

actually scrap that frontiers micro-transaction model makes SC look like a saint lol

[polar flame]

Bright side is I think they are becoming more self aware and getting better... Which should lead to faster development and more logical systems at earlier tiers

[rose root]

That's fantastic. My biggest issue is that the game-loops simply don't work reliably. That's all I want for the alpha stage. Make what you have already work already. It would get so many doubters into the game

[polar flame]

We have to keep in mind that having a playable PU at this stage of development is really rare.

[rose root]

That is true. And in their defence I've had two 30ks in the last 20hours of gameplay so that's awesome

[polar flame]

Indeed

It's good that we can be critical and that they listen ... Sometimes 😅

[rose root]

100%. I am SO critical of this game. I talk like I hate it, But it's also almost all I play haha. I want this game to be the best thing

Ok. Mining fans. Tell me the pros of my prospector before I melt it into a Taurus

[pale crane]

You have a great cockpit view 🤔

[native plank]

I'm using the Prospector and getting the Taurus for it and essentially from the cash I make out of Quant mining.

[rose root]

That is so true Ashford.

[umbral fossil]

Mining is one of the most profitable professions in the game? It's a fully fledged mechanic, and the Prospector is the only ship that can do it atm. (The Mole is excessive)

Basically as Arcane said, it's easier to make cash with the Prospector and buy a Taurus in game

[pale crane]

I'm happy to have a prospector loaner to make some money 👌

[rose root]

I went out to the Halo, half the rocks weren't scannable and in 30minutes most the rocs I found were like 1% quant and 50% inert.

I wouldn't have minded if i could jettison the intert but the time investment when you can jump into an aurora and do surviellence missions for 200k an hour

But the prospector cockpit is amazing

[marble crater]

If I jump in and find lots of unscannable rocks Quantum jumping 50-100km forward can often help. Think it resets the instance but haven't tested fully

[rose root]

Ok. so essentially given the prospector storage size, do you just hunt for rocks until you find a few good ones instead of just flat mining till you fill?

[marble crater]

I look for 1 * 20%+ Quantainium rock

[rose root]

oooh ok. And use Lancet right?

[marble crater]

Ideally 30%+ but I'll take anything over 20 tbh. Yah lancet + surge

[rose root]

ooh ok i dont have any surge charges, ill need to find where to buy them...also how do you decide when to use surge?

[marble crater]

I tend to wait for like half a centimetre of heat build up then hit surge

[rose root]

Ohh it just breaks it faster?

[marble crater]

It spikes the heat almost directly into the optimal zone. I also use the Torrent 3 module

[rose root]

Ohhh wow ok

Thanks Number, I will go and give the prospector another go RN

[marble crater]

So it's almost instant rock cracking lol

[rose root]

Oh wow

[marble crater]

Alt + 1 ,2 or 3 to activate active modules depending which slot you put it in

You can also add the Brandt module if the Quant fluctuates too much for you. It makes it very stable for around 30 seconds. Another active module

[native plank]

Does anyone know if there are keys for the mining beam strength? Like I use the scroll wheel but I see people move it faster and more in a more responsive manner so maybe it can be moved up and down with keys?

[rose root]

@marble crater thanks for the help mate 🙂 can you find quant on planets or just at the halo?

[marble crater]

I use the Halo but you can try the rings around Yela, easier to get to but harder to find Quant

Planets like Lyria will have big boy 8T rocks that really need a mole or 2 prospectors to crack

[rose root]

oooh right good to know. Im in PO so its just the halo jump is a monster travel haha, but ill head there 🙂

[rose root]

have u succesfully safelogged in the prospector bed out in the halo?

[marble crater]

It has worked but I don't recommend it if you can avoid it. It will bug out at some point. There are many ways to get to the Halo too. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes-3-14-0-live

Best to avoid the "Youtube" spots

Basically shared between servers

[rose root]

ahh ive been using a diagram lol

@marble crater made it to the halo! if i cant find quant whats the next best thing

[marble crater]

V to bring up scanner and mouse 1 to scan rocks from 4km away. Really speeds things up

[rose root]

amazing

any way of finding decent rocks? im in the halo and i can only find tiny shitty ones ha

[marble crater]

It's rng :( quite often if you come across 2 or more rocks that are really close together it'll be quant. You can find it solo as well though

[rose root]

ive found a few that are like 2% quant....thats about it

[west rapids]

just keep searching, all you can do

[rose root]

I shall keep searching! it's oddly peaceful out here in the belt, just hope i find something before i get low on fuel haha

[devout pasture]

hey, looking for the best planet to take my rented ROC out

[marble crater]

Aberdeen near Hurston is the top pick for ROC mining

[rose root]

Yela if you want the prettiest backdrop in the game

[hollow sedge]

When you access it it shows up the same as inventory. The gems are individual and don't stack.

[hollow sedge]

I fly the Nomad for this reason. I found the gun racks by the door last night

Anyone got any tips for how to repair/maintain a ROC. Do I do it on the pads the same way we do with ships?

[half bane]

my refining job glitched, I selected forex in a full quanta load, get quote, confirmed (just one left click) and it generated me 2 identical jobs.

good for me I guess but don't know what caused the glitch for the issue council

[rose root]

Bois whats the best reprocessing tech?

[woeful moss]

If you mean refining it depends on best in what? Fastest? Most profitable? something inbetween?

[rose root]

yeah i just went with the sloow high yield one

[half bane]

ferron exchange is the one I alwayse use

you can simulate the methode in this site : https://uexcorp.space/refining

[rose root]

love it thanks Kam

[devout pasture]

so if i rent a prospector, and want to refine the ore...and all i own is a titan. do i have to becareful how much i refine so that i can transport it with my titan to sell?

[woeful moss]

yeah ferron looks nice. Get some jobs running and then sell them the next day

[woeful moss]

Yes, I don't know the cargo of the titan buuuuuut you can rent a cutty black if you exceed the amount and just use that to sell the goods

[tame apex]

Is cargo worth it guys?

I got the freelancer max yesterday to carry a roc and do some pvp. Wondering if I should get into cargo too

[polar flame]

freelancer max for PVP?

[tame apex]

It does ok

[rose root]

anyone got a fix for the roc mining extraction laser bug?

[royal spear]

What's the bug?

[rose root]

where the minerals just spin and spin and dont end up in your roc hold when using the extraction beam, most common roc bug atm

[royal spear]

Not had issues with it, sorry.

[rose root]

No worries at all

[brisk scaffold]

Turn off mining mode, get out of the roc, turn on mining mode, wait a second for it to complete the saying mining mode on, switch to extraction mode, wait, then left click

This is basically what I do until I can get it to suck up a gem, i also only do a couple of gems at a time

[open pebble]

For anyone curious, that box I pulled from my URSA is still in my MSR. I've stored the ship at several stations, logged in and out (both at station and in bed) and it's still there

[pastel herald]

What’s the fastest way to make money trading

[worthy scroll]

Buy low and sell high.

[upper garden]

If you stop and collect a refining job, what happens to the stuff that isn't processed yet?

[open pebble]

The refinery workers help themselves to it

[earnest tendon]

Does anybody actually trade and not mine? Is that viable?

[daring vale]

With a Herc, trading is profitable sometimes.

Just wish I had a list of goods that work for bulk buying/sales...

[coarse cape]

Just depends on what you buy and where

IAE kinda borked with the prices

[daring vale]

I don't mind it being borked, I just want a list of what goods are best for bulk buys and sales.

[coarse cape]

Look at Jax Axton’s state of trade

Think that’s the name

Jack Axton*

Should be on YouTube @daring vale

[daring vale]

Tragically, I don't have access to YouTube.

[coarse cape]

Ah

[thin escarp]

@devout pasture just rent a cutlas

renting prospector kinda blows unless u do some funny shit to change to laser

[pastel herald]

Wdym funny shit

How do I optimize prospector mining?

Is quantanium more profitable then mining normal minerals like laranite?

[open pebble]

Yes. A lot.

[pastel herald]

By how much?

[open pebble]

Double the value of the next highest one

[pastel herald]

Oh my

But only 15 minutes to mine

[open pebble]

That is the catch

[pastel herald]

The risk of going boom is not worth it?

Can I even fill 32 scu of quantanium?

[open pebble]

Yep, just have to plan

[worthy scroll]

I wouldn't touch quant unless I found a rock with a lot of it. Then just do that one rock and go.

[open pebble]

Find a group of quant rocks, break them all up, and only extract when you're ready to head back

[pastel herald]

How much would you earn from one full prospector of quantanium? Do I need to refine it?

[open pebble]

I think like 270k

[pastel herald]

What's a good percentage of quant to be worth it

[worthy scroll]

I think I've seen someone pull over 250k from one load.

[open pebble]

2%+

[pastel herald]

Only 2%?

And Quant doesn't need refining

[open pebble]

It does

[pastel herald]

Refined it pulls in 270k

Huh

Is this the most profitable trade in sc

[open pebble]

I don't think you can trade quant, only mine

[pastel herald]

What is the best setup for mining Quant then

And it seems like Quant is iffy

[open pebble]

Most people recommend a Lancet laser with surge mods. I use a Helix with Brandt and Optimum mods

[pastel herald]

For quant?

[open pebble]

Yes

[pastel herald]

What about just normal mining

Or is that just not as good as quant mining

[open pebble]

Either setup will be fine for normal mining, but you may not need the surge charges

[pastel herald]

Neat

Where should I sell refined materials

[open pebble]

Any trade terminal on a planet will do

Whichever is closest to your refinery

[shadow magnet]

If I buy Diamonds (Material) at a Trading Post, is it Diamond or Diamond Raw.

Weird question but I'm so confused, as I couldn't refine it at a station.

Or is it limited if bought at a trading post ?

[twin sentinel]

I'd assume they'd be refined diamonds, but don't quote me on that

[coarse cape]

Would be diamonds

Raw would be if you mined it from like a prospector or mole

[open pebble]

That could be a fun gameplay loop though - buy raw material, haul it to a refinery, then sell the refined materials for a profit

[shadow magnet]

Oh - Alright 😅

[coarse cape]

Yeah one day we might get it

One day

[open pebble]

I swear to god I have the absolute worst luck lately with mining.

Went to Lyria, found tons of quant (including a big 22% boi) but didn't have any surge charges so couldn't crack any. Came back with surge mod, now I've been flying around for 40 minutes and haven't found shit

Now the scanner only works like 1/10 times, so it's taking a lot longer

[hollow sedge]

time to grief the ungrateful lyria miners

[open pebble]

Not like I'm going to lose much, I haven't mined anything

But I'll be sure to pick up your bounty after

[open pebble]

I hate dead rocks

[hollow sedge]

i like dead miners

i heard bumping into it helps fyi

physicalize it

[open pebble]

I'll try that next time

[tame apex]

What cargo should I transport?

[ember star]

You kinda have to do your own research. Find things with a ton of quantity but not many people are buying

I’m about to write an application to track my cargo hauls and profits

[wispy apex]

How often does commodity supplies restore at ports?

[valid shoal]

hey, any tips on roc mining? witch moon etc

[delicate girder]

I think Aberdeen is the goto for ROC mining. Yela may be second. Of course that making the assumption of what you're trying to mine.

[verbal cargo]

Arial is a little flatter than Aberdeen

[delicate girder]

True. That makes a big difference depending on what you're flying.

[valid shoal]

well i just do quantinium mining

im heading to aberdeen

[delicate girder]

I heard that hanging a ROC out the back of a Nomad and mining from the bed (two player of course) no longer works in 3.15. Has anyone tried?

[marble crater]

As in not unloading the ROC?

[delicate girder]

As in not taking the ROC off the Nomad.

[marble crater]

Didn't even know that was a thing. Cool

[delicate girder]

I may no longer be a thing, but it was.

It of course required a lot of coordination between the pilot and the miner.

That and third person view.

[wild nacelle]

What is a good haul, in terms of SCU for Quantanium in a Prospector?

[crimson oak]

32

[wild nacelle]

Sorry, I meant cSC, so you are saying 3200?

I'm clearly doing something wrong then 1100 is my best run so far

[marble crater]

Ideally you'll mine a 30%+ Quant rock

Around 5T in size

[wild nacelle]

I’m still to poor to buy modules (hence the mining) so 5T is the limit I think (Lancet MH1). I tried scooping up all the non-quantanium fragments first and letting 0.1cSC of quantanium destabilise so I could dump the lot but the jettison mechanic seems unreliable.

[novel kelp]

hey every one any one need hand with mining ?

[marble crater]

The trick is to scoop all the 100% quant chunks first then fill with the lower %

[wild nacelle]

I wish you could use a tractor beam to sort them

[marble crater]

Are you mining in space or on a planet?

Can be rough on a planet with chunks all stacked up

[wild nacelle]

Lydia

Lyria

[marble crater]

Yeah I mainly mine in space when in the Prospector. Chunks just float away from each other

[delicate girder]

Yes that's the main reason why I don't like mining on planets. It's much harder to get at the chunks especially on bigger rocks.

[marble crater]

It's easier in a Mole cause you just inhale everything but trickier in a Prospector where you need to be picky

[willow tiger]

Curious question guys; on the MOLE are the 2 side lasers external? i.e. are you left to the hazards of the planet when mining

[ember star]

Yes but nothing hurts them

[willow tiger]

Ahh, but they still need helmets and stuff?

[ember star]

Oh I see what you mean

No

It has an interior

You don’t need helmets

[willow tiger]

I am now confused xp So they don't need temperature resistance, either?

[ember star]

It’s like a gun turret

[willow tiger]

Nice, okay. Thanks man :)

[ember star]

Sorry I thought you meant the mining heads themselves not the people actually mining

[willow tiger]

Ahh nah. that's cool! Thanks for your time chap

[true portal]

Is there any trading material that works okay for large volume? I keep hearing it takes forever to sell stuff, but I'm not sure if that's just high value/low volume stuff

[hollow sedge]

astitine. titanium and laranite are all good for high volume too.

but for high volume trading. you pretty much have to go to the major cities to sell

buy at mining outposts on moons

[crimson oak]

titanium and diamonds usually decent

spirits and medical supplies can be ok too

[coarse cape]

pretty sure you do need a helmet if youre in space tho

last time i played in the mole i was just in clothing and i died

in space as well^

[split crest]

the side turrets are not sealed

you're fully exposed in the side turrets

[hallow swallow]

Still works. I've done it solo. The issue is everything else about ROC mining. Also you have to consider the terrain elevation. It's best to do this if the ground is fairly flat to more easily extract the gems. If you are trying this on a slopped area the gems will just roll away.

[ember star]

If this is true then it’s a bug since you’re sitting inside the ship. I’ll double check this tomorrow.

[split crest]

there is no canopy

you are sitting in a metal frame exposed to vacuum or atmo

[ember star]

I guess you’re right. I never realized it’s not enclosed. That’s kinda dumb to be honest

[rose root]

Hey guys for Halo trips which is the best L1 to base yourself out of?

[humble magnet]

@rose root check out : https://cornerstonebase.space/login/articles/articles/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes-3-14-0-live-rel1-2

[native plank]

I bought the Prospector for aUEC, I love it as I enjoy Quantum mining however I have heard of others moving onto the mole as they started mining in pairs. I have no intention of getting rid of my Prospector but I heard them say they 'melted' the ship. What is melting and can it be done to ships bought with aUEC?

[open pebble]

That’s only for ships bought with real money. Basically you exchange the ship for store credit. There’s no in-game mechanic to sell or trade ships

[rose root]

Mole is great, but you really do need 2-3 people to use it to its max, solo prospector is king

[void tendon]

Where do you go to buy new mining lasers for the ROC?

[coarse cape]

you cant yet

[void tendon]

wut

😦

[coarse cape]

only mining lasers you can change right now are the ones on the mole and prospector

theres no s0 mining laser yet lol

[void tendon]

awe big sad

[coarse cape]

yeah

roc mining laser still pretty solid for hadanite

[void tendon]

yeah it is

wish they would fix the tractor beam though

[coarse cape]

yeah

[open pebble]

Technically you can change the laser in the hand tool, but there’s only one

[native plank]

I see, so if I buy ships with aUEC I'm stuck with them. Guess that means I need to make sure what I buy is what I truly want.

[void tendon]

pisses me off to no end

[open pebble]

Stuck with them until the next wipe

[coarse cape]

Yep

[native plank]

Alright then, thanks for the info

[hollow sedge]

first world problems

[open pebble]

Tell me about it.. I have too many ships to scroll through

Good lord...

[worthy scroll]

Lol, what happens with the Mole is the subscriber ship.

[split crest]

??????

refineries have capacity???

[pliant tundra]

Question : how do the Raft’s containers work ? I couldn’t find anything about it

[native plank]

2 questions.

1. Is it worth selling quant directly to terminal whilst waiting on refining or just stick to only refining?

2. Can the Prospector only mine 5700 mass and under?

[wild nacelle]

I think it depends on the resistance as well as your gear setup

[rose root]

Qant is worth SO much more refined. worth the wait

[native plank]

Alrighty, appreciate the advice, thanks.

[rose root]

Ok so it looks like the halo has "bands" which one do you want to be in?

[rose root]

anyone for a non-scannable rock in the belt fix?

[crude surge]

I love play as a trader and i will still do it. But don't make money from it. I want to save up to a Caterpillar ( sorry for bad english ) is mining and hunting the only way to get credits from ?

[pliant matrix]

Seems trading is interesting if you can buy 6 digits goods but it come with the risk of losing sometimes.
As for mining except mining quant in a prospector or mole (with a crew) it's not worth the time spent.
Hunting is imo still the best money maker atm

When server works fine I can make 150-200k/hour with group HRT or higher

[crude surge]

thx for the info mate 👍

[delicate girder]

How the heck did you do it solo? Did you do it in a Nomad or find a way to do it in another ship. The reason I ask is that you can't get from the cockpit to the ROC if you're in a Nomad.

[hallow swallow]

the ramp of the nomad has to be lowered then i can either park or hover the nomad above ground, jump into the roc and mine from there.

i mean it is more efficient with 2 people. like the mole. you can go solo but at least 2 people will make the experience more efficient.

[delicate girder]

If the Nomad is in the air, how could you possibly get back to the ROC?

[hallow swallow]

the edge of the ramp is almost touching the ground.

i don't have the landing gear down if i'm hovering.

[delicate girder]

Ah, got it.

[hallow swallow]

yeah, not something i would do often solo. I was curious if it was possible.

and it is.

[sudden haven]

What's the current sale rate on a full ROC these days?

Namely hadenite

[delicate girder]

Thanks for testing it. I guess your technique since you were doing it solo was a bit "cleaner" getting the Nomad's bed nearly flat on the ground. Was the ramp always extended?

I bet it's about the same around 230k ish on a full ish ROC as I recall.

[hallow swallow]

i extended the ramp and the ladder so i had an idea of how low i needed to go. cos I still had to get back into the ship.

if the ground is flat then you can just park the nomad by the rock deposits and mine. at least it still saves the hassle of having to drive the ROC on and off the ramp.

[delicate girder]

I'm going to have to try your solo technique.

I've just ROC mined like two rocks in 3.15 so far just to test it so I wasn't trying to be efficient then.

I think I'll try it on Arial later.

[hallow swallow]

it was quite fun.

I feel like some areas of Arial have had a ground cover overhaul

[delicate girder]

Is that where you did it?

[hallow swallow]

in 3.15. There's an area around one of the HDMS sites, i forget which, but there are way more ground boulders.

which means if you do get gem pings from scanning there is a good chance they are under boulders.

[delicate girder]

Yep. That sucks.

[hallow swallow]

no i believe i was on daymar when I tried it out.

[delicate girder]

Then you definately have to drive out and try to clip into the rocks if you want to get it.

[hallow swallow]

i wasn't looking for hadanite specifically.

[delicate girder]

I haven't been having a lot of fun lately with any of the mining, so fun sounds good. The ship mining has too many bugs right now to be fun I think.

Combine that with how buggy most all of the missions are and CIG needs to fix some shite fast!

[hallow swallow]

yeah it's true. some nice features added in 3.15 but playability took a hit compared to 3.14

looks like 3.16 is in evocati. looking forward to when we can jump on the PTU for that.

[marble crater]

Made alot of credits off mining Quant & group ert's so can't complain so far. Haven't completed a single bunker mission though always stuck on 1/10 :(

[frank pollen]

Can you fit a Constellation Taurus with a mining laser? If not is it something they would implement in the future? It brings up the question of smaller ships being fit with smaller Lancet mining lasers.

[raw shell]

negative. I haven't heard any rumors about outfitting other existing ships with mining gear.

right now the only ships that mine are prospector and the mole

[frank pollen]

Ok. Also what about just piolting a Coni with a GREYCAT ROC and using the ROC in the vehicle bay to mine it?

...

Logic denies me here for sale of playability and sheer testability.

[raw shell]

that you can do, but the ROC only mines the minerals on moons and planets with the diamond icon. You'd have to locate them, land, drive the ROC out and then mine it

[frank pollen]

Oh. So no celestial mining in a ship with a vehicle that mines on a planet gotcha.

[raw shell]

correct, it's not powerful enough to break the larger ore rocks

[frank pollen]

Secondly what is the cheapest ship in aUEC that can mine asteroids?

makes sense

[raw shell]

the prospector at 2.something mil

you can rent them too though for 51k/day

[frank pollen]

true i may have to when i get back to the flat.

that's not bad

and just fly around mining and selling at PO and various other ports you pretty much make the bottom end even yea?

[raw shell]

That's what I did, was able to buy a prospector in about a week with the time I could spend on it

well after you learn the ropes on mining, the real money maker is in quantanium.. put it in a refinery then haul it to market in one of the cities.

you can get 88uec/unit

I'd recommend learning the ropes on some non-volatile minerals like bexilite or agricium, laranite.. learn the laser graphics, go through the refining process, then set your sites on quantanium. There are good how-to videos on it

[upper garden]

How does resupply at a trade location work? I bought a location's whole supply, but it doesn't seem to be restocking?

[vestal shoal]

i think you have to wait 20min

not sure tho

[ember star]

It takes awhile to restock and it’s only a little at a time

[near pilot]

Any recommend good how-to videos?

[ember star]

For what? Cargo or mining?

[near pilot]

Mining, I am new player, just got this game yesterday

[ember star]

As a new player, you won’t be able to afford a Prospector unless you pledged one. What ship do you have?

[near pilot]

Aurora starter pack

[ember star]

In that case you have two early game options to mine:

1. Rent a ROC and Cutty Black from a Refinery for a day (Any L1 station). This will run you about 60k aUEC per day.
2. Help crew a Mole with another player

Renting a Prospector isn't really worth it, and you'll need 2.1 Mil to buy a Prospector and another 30k for a Lancet head

[near pilot]

thanks, seen I got a long way to go.

[ember star]

Not really, if you do ROC mining you can get 200k per full ROC.. which then you can buy your own ROC in one run. Getting your first 100k isnt that hard

[near pilot]

oh, thanks, I guess I start off contact to raise some fund

[ember star]

If you grind those delivery missions you'll eventually get 45k contracts for them

[sudden dawn]

I had only done prospector mining but bought a cutlass and ROC recently, and man is it so relaxing to fly around moons mining with it.

I've especially had a blast on some of the lower gravity ones 😄

[ember star]

Yeah, mining can be chill. ROC mining doesnt pay as much but I think it's pretty fun to do. If it was more profitable I'd do it more often.

[hollow sedge]

I enjoy mining in the ROC even though it doesn't pay as much as Quant. I'm hoping there are little updates to the ROC in 3.16 or another ground based miner.

Or if we can use the gadgets to mine bigger planetary rocks.

[tame apex]

I can help you out later today, we can use my roc and ship

[ember star]

I'm creating a tool that allows me to log my hauling and minable profits. This will allow me to make reports to figure out the most profitable routes and mining locations. I'm trying to decide if I want to make this tool public. Would anyone else like to use it?

[true portal]

I'm doing it manually with a spreadsheet, so probably

[ember star]

Yeah, I started to go down that route and remembered I'm a Software Engineer. 😆

[true portal]

the really trick part is the amount available at places. sc-trade.tools is okay for that, but you can't ever really know the way its split across servers

and time of day seems to have a big impact

[ember star]

That's why I'm wanting people to use this tool... if people use it we can create more accurate reports from the economy.

[true portal]

Oh I gotcha, like waze for SC trading. I dig it.

"Wheel feel off of car ahead of you 14 seconds ago"

huh...thanks waze

trading is oddly good this patch. Without as many 30ks it competes decently with bounties, since they're buggy currently.

[near pilot]

@tame apex thanks

[knotty galleon]

With Mole mining with other players, lets say just 2 players, how abouts do they split profits? Like refining it etc. Is it just based on trust with the pereson with the mole to give half the aUEC to the other player after its finished processing?

[royal spear]

if you are asking whether there is a system in game to split it, there isn't.

[pliant matrix]

From people I heard or met teaming into Mole work it's more a fixed amount to the +1.
Ofc there are scam. Like when someone paid young innocent me 50k for 1h30 work 🤣

[royal spear]

That's not really a scam if you were happy to earn 50k in an hour and a half while also learning how mining works

[pliant matrix]

It wasn't. It was more I didn't know how much what we gathered was worth. I'd mined before with prospector.

I was just too noobs

[royal spear]

Yeah 😛

[knotty galleon]

So how would you go about teaming with another player? In regards to them getting their share and vice versa

[royal spear]

Depends if I was doing it for profit, for fun, with a friend or just hiring someone?

[pliant matrix]

For now I'd say it's only trust. Dude can go away kicking you out of the team just as he can be fair and share honestly

[royal spear]

I'd probably offer to pay half at unprocessed rates

[knotty galleon]

Alrighty, thanks for the info! I was sort of pressing toward hiring someone, i dont mind mole solo mining but thought i'd look at different avenues and see what they're like!

[royal spear]

Well you have to think what's right for you. It's not really economy based atm as there isn't any economy and most players don't give a shit about aUEC because it will get wiped and they prob already bought everything they want/need this patch.

When economy is a thing I think my offer of 50% at unrefined values is more than generous 😛

Depending on running costs for a mole at that point it might even be unsustainably generous 😛

[spice flume]

so i kinda bought like 5000 med pens for like 500k (either to a glitch or a miss click) so if anyone is interested in buying some medpens in bulk to help me get my money back that would be awsome

[coarse cape]

Rip

The good thing is you won’t have to go to a clinic for a while to get medpens

[spice flume]

🥲

[true portal]

getting used to gravity landing bigger ships is a trip. You're coasting toward a landing bay and suddenly you're falling like a rock

Hauls lots of cargo? Yes. Gravity death trap? Also yes.

[spiral birch]

Good evening to all ! Can anyone advise me on the helix head price?

[ember star]

A little over 100k

[native plank]

how much does it cost to rent cutty?

[ember star]

Around 50k

[native plank]

And is that for a day

[ember star]

Yes

[native plank]

Appreciate it, thanks.

[native plank]

Do you know where in a refinery I can rent ships?

[ember star]

Do you know how to get to the actual refinery area?

Where you can start work orders and such?

[native plank]

Sorry, yeah just checked and found it a bit further down from emrch store

[ember star]

Yep

[native plank]

Last question can you sell refined ores to anyplace or is there a trade route I should be following?

[ember star]

Any TDD

Not Admin, but a TDD which are in cities

[native plank]

TDD?

That's like Trade District something

[ember star]

A18 has the highest minimums and is easiest to get to

[native plank]

Do they all sell for similar prices or should I be going somewhere specific as a quant miner?

[native plank]

ah, okay

[ember star]

All the same prices, but like I mentioned A18 has a higher minimum

[native plank]

Never been to A18 so I guess now is as good as a time as ever. Hopefully I find the TD easily.

[ember star]

When you take the train to the city, and leave the train station.. it's in that first courtyard and it even has a giant TDD sign

[native plank]

Alrighty, I'll keep that in mind.

In regards to cargo do I send the refined ores location to cutty whilst it's stored or out on the hangar pad?

[ember star]

Stored

[native plank]

Alright, appreciate all the advice you have given me. Going to put it all to the test now, thanks once again.

[tawny pecan]

QQ- Is there a ground vehicle that fits in the Nomad that can carry a box?

[ember star]

Maybe. The plan normal cyclone has a bed in the back of it.. I haven't had any luck actually putting anything in the back of it without a tractor beam though

[mossy notch]

Where do you buy mining lasers for the prospector?

[lunar spade]

is it easier to make the prospector? Freelancer? or Cutlass. Which is fastest

[pastel herald]

How do I only extract quantanium?

Or does the prsopector automatically pick up mostly quantanium

[ember star]

Refinery

[ember star]

Is it easier to make what

[ember star]

It grabs everything in the rock you are extracting

[pastel herald]

Is the stock head good for mining quantanium on a prospector?

Or do I need to get a lancet or something

Is there a limit to the size of the rock I can mine or something?

[crystal owl]

Lancet with surges (or stampedes) and brandts

[pastel herald]

So the stock prospector can't mine quantanium

[crystal owl]

Maybe it can do really small rocks

[pastel herald]

Damn

[mossy notch]

Soo have prospector, purchased lancet head but in vehicle load out it does not show up to equip on ship

Can the prospector equip lancet head?

[tame apex]

Guys, were is the best spot to roc mine?

[ember star]

Make sure it's the Lancet I and your ship and the head are at the same location

[ember star]

Arial, Aberdeen, and Hurston

[raw shell]

I favor Daymar personally

[tame apex]

Any reason?

[raw shell]

Has a ground spawn pad, weather doesn't require special armor, you can see

Those hurston moon are blinding

[tame apex]

nice, where is the spawn pad? in which facility haha

so Ig I dont need permabroke

[raw shell]

Nah regular undersuit is fine. I think mine 145? Not at my desk with my links. If you search for "star citizen ground vehicle spawn" it should come up

[tame apex]

kk ty

[raw shell]

Np! Be sure to repair your roc periodically

[tame apex]

I will ty

[mossy notch]

How do I see which Lancet I purchased?

[crimson oak]

Rented Prospectors cant (officially), make sure the ship is in the same station as the mining head that you bought.

[tame apex]

Having trouble finding gems

on deyamr

any ideas

[raw shell]

I start at om1 or om2, head for the day side, fly as low as possible and under 100mps. Constantly ping and look for cubes 2,000km away or less

[raw shell]

The gem icons will pop up like right under you

[true portal]

Are the scrapyards still bugged?

[pastel herald]

How do I change my mining head on the Argo mole

I can't seem to find it in ship load out and I see that the lancet head is in the inventory of the station

[raw shell]

it should be under the utility tab

[pastel herald]

??

[raw shell]

it it a lancet mh2?

[pastel herald]

Yes

[raw shell]

should be able to select one of the lasers under utility and select it

in the ship buildout menu

[pastel herald]

I don't see the ship

[raw shell]

is it stored or on the pad?

must be stored

[pastel herald]

I can't mine anything everything I jump into Argo turret the game just says server 12 queue 1 and then kicks me

Wtf

How do I mine efficiently

Are there still rock clusters this update and is tab supposed to be just a ping

[open pebble]

I wish they would add a mobiglass app to check your refinery jobs

[north oyster]

Is being kicked out very often? Have you added or checked the Issues Council about that?

Mining in the protector has been pretty good except the one time the Quan load went volatile at the end of a jump

[olive wagon]

So do I need to be worried if I claim my mole with lancet miners on, or do they stay on with the mh2 on?

[delicate girder]

Yes, I believe you will loose any mining customizations. Isn't that still the case?

[olive wagon]

Ok I was just making sure

[delicate girder]

I wish CIG would change that!

[verbal cargo]

mining heads/lancets stay on, mining modules are lost

[olive wagon]

Thanks

[crisp wind]

Can you mine quant with just the lancet or are modules necessary

On a prospector

[spiral birch]

It's super expensive 😅, it will take a long time with my arbor

[delicate girder]

Yes as long as the rocks are say 5200 mass and under give or take. If bigger you can use surges and/or team up with other players for the initial break.

[delicate girder]

The lancet head is less than a third the price and still pretty damn good. Start with it if the 100k price of the helix is hard to take. It don't blame you because you can easily loose that 100k if you loose the ship and have to claim it.

[glacial dagger]

Lancet laser is best for mining quant

[delicate girder]

In my recent experience, I don't have a lot more problems mining quant with a helix over a lancet, but the darn helix head is quite expensive to loose if you do. When you're learning though, it is definitely better to start with a lancet head!

Also with big rocks it's good to have a mix of helix and lancet heads firing at the same rock.

[ember star]

Do a Lancet instead. It will mine quant and 1/3 of the price

[spiral birch]

@ember star @delicate girder
thank you to you i will leave on that

[sudden dawn]

Pretty sure you keep components on claim, you just lose modules

[jovial lodge]

Could someone please tell CIG to fix the damn Roc extraction!

[rigid burrow]

Anyone know where I can find torrent III module? I’ve looked everywhere and can only buy Torrent module and other tier I module

[unkempt helm]

It worked for me? just LMB and point at the gems?

[north oyster]

My Prospector had a Quan blow-up, my laser was restored but I lost all my consumables

[verbal cargo]

Shubin Interstellar terminal at New Babbage Commons has everything you'll want for mining

[jovial lodge]

Everytime I use the extractor it spins the gems around like a glow stick attached to a rope at an underground rave. Most gems fly off in all directions

[crisp wind]

You lose your mining head if you have to claim the prospector? I thought you only lose modules

[glacial dagger]

Lasers are same on destruction and claims, but modules, both passive and active, are lost

[novel ore]

does the mouse accel work for mining laser power?

it drives me crazy that you have to scroll fast to get it moving at all

[tame apex]

What can I do if one shop is full ? Im using this webpage but it didnt tell me it would fill up

do I need to wait? or

[north oyster]

Might want to look at a separate device for that. Using the slider on my joystick has made all the difference in the world

[novel ore]

Thanks, that honestly makes a lot of sense, just a simple thrustmaster eh

[unkempt helm]

For me, the gems do fly around but as long as you don't stop the extraction laser they eventually sort themselves out and go into ROC cargo

[jovial lodge]

I'm wondering if it is a more severe issue on different planets. I had more success on Aberdeen than Ita, which was a disaster no matter what I tried

[open pebble]

y tho

[olive wagon]

Can we not scan rocks in the pilot seat

[open pebble]

What I mean is why are they inside of a boulder?

And here, again

[opaque nova]

CIG does a little trolling

[open pebble]

Ok, I just came across the third set of gems in a row that are buried. Do I need to switch servers or something?

[native plank]

Is it possible to mine Hadanite with the prospector? Been so down on my luck with Quantanium percentages I'm seriously considering switching to Hadanite so I can actually mine something without having to worry over the fact that the rock contains only 2% of what I want.

[open pebble]

How about bexalite? It’s the next highest value ore

[native plank]

I've heard about bexalite but wasn't too sure about how much it was worth, maybe the other rocks I find that are not quant will contain bexalite and would be easier to find?

[open pebble]

I’ve found rocks with both quant and bexalite, but it’s rare. It’s not too hard to find bex rocks though

[olive wagon]

Does anyone else's HUD start to blurring

[native plank]

It's an affect when mining, no idea who thought it would be a good idea though...

[olive wagon]

Oh I thought my games textures were glitching

[verbal cargo]

You can mine them but you can't extract them. You'll have to pick up the gems one by one by hand

[native plank]

damn

that's tough

[north oyster]

Avoid Borase, it breaks like trash

Total waste of time about 90% of the time

[ornate locust]

avoid anyhting but quanta because quanta is easy to find and pays literally double over anything else

unless you are having a dry spell to slap some extra quick ore in the mole and come across something particularly juicy

it just really aint worth it

they really need to have a look at this exponential price scaling as well as availability of ores imho

[ancient star]

so i got 5 hours WFH so what would be the most profitable trading resources?

[open pebble]

Whatever you can actually buy/sell. Lots of the higher value stuff is usually empty

[daring vale]

I'm considering hauling medical supplies to Area18, what's the average demand limit, or can I dump a whole Herc-load there?

The websites are pretty ambiguous about it, and haven't helped much.

[open pebble]

The website can't tell you if a location will be full or not. In my own experience, I have more trouble finding supplied outposts to buy stuff from rather than limits on selling.

I took three full C2 loads of flourine to PO before it was full for example

[daring vale]

Filling the Herc is something I'm patient enough to do, but I want to have some idea as to where I can drop it off after.

Arccorp seems like a pretty safe dump most of the time...

But I don't know what their average limits are.

[open pebble]

Arccorp and Hurston are generally pretty safe bets. I have a lot of trouble selling stuff on microtech, but I’m not sure if that is just a bug for me or if anyone else can sell there

[cunning bone]

I just want to find literally any useable route, none of the ones I've tried yet have a functional trade terminal

[tame apex]

hmmm I have been at it for hours and cant sell all

what should I do? im new to cargo stuff

[daring vale]

Vices are a slow burn, so I've heard. Don't buy too much, or you won't be able to offload it in a hurry.

Look for bulk goods, like Flourine, or diamonds.

[tame apex]

Yeah I will, this vice sells at 20 per like

10 minutes

or so

[daring vale]

Yep. At least you'll have a slow trickling of income.

I've considered loading a.small ship with vice and using it to pay the food bills while on a station.

[tame apex]

Im going to despawn it tbf want to do missions without being nervous of getting scanned

[tame apex]

good idea

[daring vale]

Or just use a different ship.

Keep offloading between missions.

[tame apex]

Well I only have a fighter and my main ship...

[daring vale]

A fighter's not bad for bounties.

[tame apex]

Yeah ill do illegal surveillance and such

I trusted that one webpage too much

and bought so much vice

[storm flame]

yo

what other Commodities have a very high stock like gold atm

Ik laranites fucked

is there a better option then gold

most you can make with a C2 running gold is 69,590 aUEC

[glossy peak]

titanium from HDMS-Bezdek is pretty good for me

[pseudo reef]

can you load materials from a refinery onto a friends ship?

[wild nacelle]

I don't think so. Maybe if you fly and store their ship yourself

Roughly what amount of money does each SCU of raw quantanium equate to, when slow refined?

[open pebble]

Come on, wtf

[thin escarp]

@pseudo reef you cannot

[native plank]

How much does Hadanite sell for? Also do you know if the prospector can mine and extract Hadanite as well?

[cunning bone]

where do you sell to? the outposts that I usually sell at don't have working terminals

[trim rune]

they can break the rocks, but cant pick it up

unless you want to land and pick everything up with your hands

full cargo of hadanite seems to be around 250k i think, i usually get mixed hadanite and aphorite

you will want a roc and cutty if you want to mine them

[glossy peak]

i sell to the CBD

[sonic laurel]

The ROC has .8 SCU for its ore hold right?

[thin escarp]

@native plank you can break it but you cannot scoop with a prospector

might aswell go for quant at that point

i can send ya a guide for 3.15 i've made.

mined a lil over 51 million in quant in the last 2 weeks.

[native plank]

Sure

[wild nacelle]

@thin escarp Where are you mining? Can I have your guide as well please?

[thin escarp]

sure thing

[delicate girder]

Yes. You keep all components except the mining head. It's ... special. You loose the mining head and the mining components in my last experience. I'd love to be wrong about that.

[native jolt]

is t here a tool for messing with mining heads and modules

[wild nacelle]

The wiki has a good description of what each one does

[native plank]

Am I doing something wrong? First 2 days of mining quantanium would find 45-37% Quantanium rocks. Now on my 4th day I'm starting to lose faith in quantanium mining. Yesterday was a dry spell, Max like 10% and today Max around 2-16%. Resorting to have to mine the low percentages just to get something to take back to the refinery so it's not a total waste. I'm mining at Lyria, hanging around mountains near SPAL/SAL 2 (whichever it is) and find pairs with 2-8% quant or no quant at all at least according to my scanners. Perhaps RNG simply doesn't favour me but if you guys know any tips for finding the minimum good percentage of 30% that would be highly appreciated.

[sonic laurel]

SPAL-12 I believe

and it's not particularly in the mountain but in the small mounds and flats out to a few KM's away from the mountains

[native plank]

So in the flatish ground that surrounds mountains or just further but surrounding areas around mountains?

[sonic laurel]

yeah

the piedmont regions

at least that's were I got tons of great rocks in 3.14

[native plank]

I'll test that out when I head out again, hopefully I get better percentages than 2. Thanks for the suggestion.

[sonic laurel]

np

[past hull]

are there no more QT-sensitive cargo missions?

[pastel herald]

Where can I go to find some really high quant rocks?

I've just been going between crul1 and arc l3 finding rocks but they aren't efficient

[hallow swallow]

anyone involved in 3.16 wave 1 PTU tried any sort of mining?

[north oyster]

I've had the same experience in Aaron's Halo, the quan spawns have been nuked. I did finally find a 23% after about an hour. That got me about 24SCU. Previously I had been hitting >40% rocks on a regular basis. Seems CIG "adjusted" the code some.

[north oyster]

I spent time playing on the Nox testing the new gravlev. For now if I mine, it'll be in Live so that the aUEC count for the effort. I have found that mining in the PTU is always pretty good and without many issues because there isn't enough demand on the servers to reveal any issues like we find in LIVE. The only issue that was noted in the PTU (back 3.14 PTU) was the ping range and CIG ignored that issue all together.

[hallow swallow]

I see. I read tthat they are introducing the additional mining gadgets in 3.16

[north oyster]

ah, I forgot about those. The whole issue of actualized inventory and getting stuff on your ship doesn't excite me at this stage. Plus the fact that some Lagrange refinery stations don't have a full selection of consumables (manufactured scarcity) makes me less likely to test and try them

[trim rune]

wow didnt know they spawn in clusters of 15

[glacial dagger]

Bet it's dolovine

[trim rune]

nope, hadanite

[north oyster]

Yes, I use to find them on Aberdeen often. It's a good haul if the ROC doesn't bug out before completing the harvest

[trim rune]

yeah the bug is annoying

[north oyster]

BugS 🙂

[trim rune]

yes all the bugs

especially the explodey kind

[north oyster]

tru dat

[trim rune]

the ROC might be made my a professional soccer player

crashes into rock full speed : fine, touches the cutlass in the wrong way : BOOM

[north oyster]

I finally upgraded my cutty to a MAX to make it easier for RORO

[trim rune]

i dont even own one yet

still poor renter

[north oyster]

roll-on, roll-off

[trim rune]

also income is still sad vs those baller quant miners

[north oyster]

It did it via my game package, but I'm a little salty on how they've messed up the ROC gameplay for now

[trim rune]

at least the view is great

the best i get is 200k an hour i think if i get lucky with hadanite

[north oyster]

I saw one person mention that if you look at the ping echos, you can notice the "smaller ones" that those might be small deposits

[trim rune]

and 50-100k an hour if i get only blue stuff

probably still better to do bounties... if they arent also BUGGED

[north oyster]

Running the Prospector has been fun but CIG just tweaked the spawn rate for Quantainium (of course). I might go back to some basic trading also. I love running the ROC because it is a blast being down on a moon searching. I just wish they would address some of the critical gameplay issues BUT that's not their function. It is a sandbox demo for the most part.

[trim rune]

so sad that the rented prospector is close to useless

also yes being down in the moon is pretty

[north oyster]

Until they "fix it" there is a way to modify the rental prospector. I've not heard if it is still valid and probably won't be after 3.16 goes Live. What I understand is that you claim the ship and then log out, you do not log back in (KEY) until the timer for the claim has fully run. They you can bring the ship up in the ship manager in the mobiglass and change out the components. I can't validate this claim or if it still true.

Yes, rental Prospectors are nothing but trainers for those wanting to learn, it is not setup to earn.

[trim rune]

but all modules would be lost when it go boom anyway

[trim rune]

yeah ROC is worth renting, while prospectors are useless rented

[north oyster]

that is true if you own the ship also (like me) but the laser head does stay on it

The Lancet is pretty cheap, so that isn't such a huge issue either.

Right now I only use the lancet with no consumables when I'm mining asteroids.

[trim rune]

i'm probably going down the route of grinding aUEC to buy ships

[north oyster]

Best path

[trim rune]

until a wipe comes and you start from 0 again

but at least you now know how to get rich quick

[north oyster]

I would recommend your transport/carrier first, Like the Cutlass. Then get the ROC, then get the Prospector

Zero to Hero

[trim rune]

hmmm... is it worth buying the cutty and roc when renting is so cheap

[north oyster]

I would say yes because then it is your asset and not a continual expense

[trim rune]

and they work pretty much the same with the owned one

prospector on the otherhand

well u know

[north oyster]

True, and that is also a path. it's your business model, so work it out as you see best.

You will need a transport for when you get the Prospector for cargo to the TDD.

[trim rune]

do delivery pay good?

[north oyster]

Yes, but the stairs can be deadly

[trim rune]

or are bounties still better?

[north oyster]

The upper rep for delivery can pay out about 40K aUEC

[trim rune]

any risk?

[north oyster]

Yes, there might be NPCs on some of them to clear out

[trim rune]

ah i need guns and armor

[north oyster]

I don't do them either. I mainly trade and mine for now.

[trim rune]

how does trading work anyway with such few stations?

[north oyster]

It works if you have a ship large enough (I would consider the MAX or the Taurus the minimum) and if you know the market and commodities to run. There is an excellent youtuber named Jack Axton who does "State of Trade" which offers really good insight.

[trim rune]

i might want to give it a try, is the ship rentable, and how much capital will i need?

[north oyster]

You'll need to check the ship rental kiosk at the refinery store and see. I don't know if the MAX or the Taurus are rentable. If not, then you can still learn and test it with a Freelancer or Cutlass Black. You just won't be making large margins.

[trim rune]

ah definitely doesnt exist in refinery, only cutty, roc, and prospector

[north oyster]

I'll check Erkl and see

[trim rune]

how much are the average margins?

[north oyster]

Usually in the 18-22% range. But a lot of factors play into the formula

The Freelancer can be rented at the Cargo kiosk areas

[topaz drum]

Great site to help plan.. https://uexcorp.space/trade

[trim rune]

i guess it is very risky if you lose your cargo

you lose all your money then right?

if you get into any "accident"

[north oyster]

No, there is a 30K protection plan in place

[topaz drum]

Don’t crash, watch for pirates.. “losing” your cargo is rare

[north oyster]

^^

[trim rune]

how does it work?

[topaz drum]

30k only for server crash.. not pilot error

[trim rune]

oh...

so doesnt cover internet disconnects

[north oyster]

If the game 30k's then your ship is "stored" ((DO NOT CLAIM)). You go and respawn it and all the cargo is there

Only 30k's

[topaz drum]

Client crash.. you “usually” come right back to where you were with no issue

[trim rune]

so far for me, i always wake up in bed

[north oyster]

This might be userful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxTYWawbvM

[topaz drum]

Hm.. is specific use cases.. internet disconnect might treat as log off

[trim rune]

i can use this as reference?

trading seems pretty relaxing albeit with some risk

[north oyster]

Be aware of things you should not buy. Scrap is totally worthless in the game right now. Stim only buys in very small quantities so whatever you buy will take awhile to sell, etc etc. I would recommend watching Jack's video

[thin escarp]

@trim rune drugs also sell at very very slow rate

you'll be sittin for hours on that stuff

mining is still the most lucrative source of income. if you know what you are doing.

[trim rune]

I see

[thin escarp]

@trim rune i can show ya the ropes. trading is way easier when been mined and refined. 🙂

[novel ore]

can you sell on a planet from a ship parked at the port?

im assuming no but since inventory is shared between the two thought i would ask

[verbal cargo]

Yes you can

[novel ore]

awesome ty

[honest igloo]

Where can I get mining modules? Went to arc l1 to get a vaux and it's not on a terminal. It's also un selectable for the ones on display. Please help

[serene quest]

Lets say I'm doing a cargo mission. And I pick up some other random cargo around the site. Where would I sell those?

[ember star]

It’s at the clothing terminal. Hover over the tabs and use your scroll wheel

[scarlet rover]

Is there an Admin office at Area 18?

[hallow bison]

if im refining stuff do i sell it at the same place or should i go somewhere different to sell

[storm flame]

so is stock of a commodity server by server based

or is it global

same with price?

[exotic ice]

if i rent a prospector for like 2 days can i then modify the modules?

[ember star]

You can’t modify modules on a rented prospector

[ember star]

It’s global on all servers

[trim rune]

Is it worth renting a caterpillar and doing trading?

[ember star]

Not unless you have a ton of money to invest

[trim rune]

By a ton, how much? I have 700k right now

[ember star]

You’d want a million or 2. Just in case you make a bad investment

[trim rune]

Ahh

And what about supply? Is it sustainable? Or i will have to run around finding what commodity is available in bulk?

[ember star]

It’s not sustainable. This is another reason why I suggest having a lot of money. It takes trial and error to figure out supply and demand.. and it changes often

[trim rune]

I see, thanks for the advice!

[coarse cape]

taurus is pretty good for trading with that much

i spend at max like 170k per run

[glass lava]

Where should I go to mine quant? We are a group of 3 in a Mole and sc-trade.tools is telling me the moons of microtech but I am at Calliope and finding nothing here...

[crimson oak]

Lyria in arccorp or aarons halo

ay-ay-ron

[scarlet rover]

where is Aaron's Halo?

[muted minnow]

there are several videos on YouTube to help with that. will be easier and quicker than someone on here explaining it.

[boreal fossil]

whats the best place to go ROC mining i looked on reddit but cant find anything reliable

[thin escarp]

@glass lava i can help you guys

@honest igloo gotta scroll when lookin at the tabs on clothing terminal in refinery

[crimson oak]

i used Arc-L1 -> HurL5, manually leave quantum @ 8.7m km.

[thin escarp]

@boreal fossil aberdeen

gotta fly real low

and fast

[mossy notch]

So with mining asteroids, I know tab pings them but how do you scan the rock to know what your mining?

[boreal fossil]

press v and hold left click

[mossy notch]

Ok

[mossy radish]

where are the best places to find quantanium?

[thin escarp]

i can send you guys a guide

if ya want

[mossy notch]

Sure

[thin escarp]

shoot me a dm

[boreal fossil]

aarons halo from arc l1 to hur l2 jump out at 12.8 mil km remaining or goto lyria

[trim rune]

Hmm are rented prospectors just bad? Am i just mining wrong? I am getting really bad results with it. Also are asteroids better or moon mining better

[boreal fossil]

From my experience moon mining is better but the rocks are usually to big to mine with a prospecter

[trim rune]

Yeah i keep getting rocks over 4000 which takes forever to break

[boreal fossil]

try using a lancet mining head with a surge module a torrent III and a stampede or a Brandt

[trim rune]

Cant do that with rented tho?

[boreal fossil]

ahh

[trim rune]

I feel like rented roc and cutlass is way superior

Making 130-300k per 90 minute trip

While my last prospector run was a sad 40k on a 2 hour trip

Am i missing something or are rented prospectors just crap?

[scarlet rover]

what's the tactic for the ROC/Cutlass trips?

[boreal fossil]

so i would try aarons halo and dip your hand in some quantanium mining the money is really good

[trim rune]

Fly low look for boxes with low numbers <1500

[trim rune]

Is it possible with rented?

[boreal fossil]

no probably not i just asked my org

[trim rune]

Also do it on daymar

Find flats

[trim rune]

Yeah so i guess rented prospector is just crap

I'll continue with roc i guess

[scarlet rover]

what do you mean by "boxes with low numbers"?

[trim rune]

The icons on your hud when scanning

There will be boxes and rock icons

[scarlet rover]

yeah and those numbers are distance. so you're saying just go for the closest ones?

[trim rune]

No, if it shows up with large numbers, they are normal rocks

Those can be detected 10km away

The rocks u looking for can only be detected under 1.5km

So fly low and wait until a new marker shows up but with distance under 2000

Around 300ms flight speed feels good for me

And close to the ground (under 500m)

[crimson oak]

could try glitching the rented prospector and fit a proper lancet head

dunno if its still working though, was working as of 2 weeks ago.

[trim rune]

Does it still work tho?

[thin escarp]

@trim rune rrental prosp sucks

gotta change laser and u really cant do that

[trim rune]

Yeah i'll stick with rented roc

[mossy notch]

Anyone with reliable path and drop out info to quant mine in arrons ring?

Last 2 trys at CRU L3 got shot down before could even think about mining

[crimson oak]

I dunno i havent needed to use it since, my 24hr rental is still working

[tough cape]

https://cornerstonebase.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[tame elbow]

Mole has 96SCU

Not sure where you got 80

[willow tiger]

Guys, if you try to take a completed order out with too small a ship, a) can you choose what to take b) what happens to the remainder? (I'm guessing lost forever..)

[tardy flower]

Just rent a bigger cargo ship 😁

[willow tiger]

But that makes me lose profits :( I think I'll have to. Is the freelancer safe to land at A18, or does it explode like the cutlass?

[crimson oak]

O_o

[main saddle]

Pick any starting point and then any destination point for QT that crosses Crusader's orbital line and the "displayed" asteroid belt. You monitor QT in the map and drop out HALFWAY between Crusader's orbital line and the belt (see yellow circles). If you miss it, just QT about 100,000km in either direction. Once you get the hang of it, it'll be old hat.

So, you could start from someplace relatively safe like Hurston and plot a path to Arc L4, for example.

[honest igloo]

TYSM

[worthy scroll]

Log on, "I'll do a box mission".

Box mission:

Just keeps giving me the same box over and over lol.

[novel ore]

anyone know the distance to drop out of quantum to get to the halo from hur l2 to arc l4? still 10-12m km?

[thin escarp]

@willow tiger it won't even let you try to load if not enough room

@tough cape 96 scu in mole and your missing quantanium. how old is this guide.

[tough cape]

Old

[north oyster]

PTU has opened to all backers. I would recommend that you do not have a whole bunch of refinery jobs in the queue this week because if it goes live you will lose all those

[hoary monolith]

how is ROC mining going this patch?

[thin escarp]

its okay

ship mining is still the more consistent $$$$

just dont rent a prospector

@hoary monolith

[hoary monolith]

is it more profitable if I don't mine quant? I'm not interested in a rush or additional risk while mining - I do it to relax

[main saddle]

You can make some OK profit. Half a Prospector of Laranite can yield about 40K auec, depending on refining method.

Here's an analysis I did a few weeks ago for kicks.

Refining prices were those shown in the terminal at the time.

[hoary monolith]

Thanks. I'm hoping to earn enough from gift boxes to get either a Cutty Black and ROC or a prospector

I did a lot of ROC mining in 3.13

[main saddle]

Yeah, with the spawn rate on gift boxes.. they really kicked it up

[hoary monolith]

It can still be dependent on how many people are at the same location you are

[main saddle]

I logged in yesterday and there were maybe 30 boxes just in the apartments lobby and metro station.

restaurants too -- feels funny walking up to NPC's enjoying their meals and taking their gift boxes off the tables

[north oyster]

ROC mining isn't near as good as it was in 3.13, nothing close. The issue is that the Radar Ping is totally screwed up and you will spend 5x more time trying to locate deposits (or longer). The Cutty/ROC combo now only earns a fraction of what it use to earn

[hoary monolith]

Prospector it is then

[mossy radish]

is this build still relevant in 3.15? https://youtu.be/es4EixxSafo

[north oyster]

Yes, still good info, but I'd not worry about it at first.

One thing I did notice is that CIG has "modified" the spawn rate for quantainium. Hopefully this isn't permanent or even a true claim by me BUT the Quan spawn seems way off at the moment

[mossy radish]

i read similar comments before so it could definitely be a thing

but i already bought the prospector so i kinda have to go into it

[north oyster]

Also, do not have any jobs in the refinery when 3.16 goes live
Just say'n

[mossy radish]

alright thanks, what did you mean by not worrying about first?

like the build itself besides the lancet/modules?

[north oyster]

Yes, careful on what you sink your funds into

the lanent is key, all else, except the surge for planet side rocks, is secondary

[glacial dagger]

Anyone know where to sell Decari Pods?

[mossy radish]

alright thanks

[gusty reef]

Any idea when will 3.16 goes live? I still have some refinery at works

[north oyster]

The PTU just opened to all backers, so I'm thinking it could be this week.

There are some issues that need to be cleared up that are game breaking, but that could be soon

it is a very small update compared to the past two patches

[gusty reef]

Is it safe to say its not in 2 or 3 days?
When i safe some money to buy taurus i'll focus on some cargo missions then

[north oyster]

My guess is maybe Wed or Thurs

CIG has holiday fever, so I see it getting pushed out regardless. Last year's patch at this time was UGLY

[upbeat crater]

from which planet can I rent cargo ships?

[north oyster]

At the cargo and refinery space stations

[gusty reef]

LoL
Okies
Then i'll stop mining from now
All my refineries should be finished in 1 .5 days

[north oyster]

Or chose the little more expensive but high yield method

that is faster

[gusty reef]

There's that too
I'll look into it later

Thankies

[north oyster]

you bet!

[north oyster]

The Cutlass is at the refinery store but I think you can get the Freelancer at the Cargo shipping store at the main space stations above planets

[upbeat crater]

which one do u suggest if I have like a 350k budget in total?

[north oyster]

What are you planning to do?

Trade?

[upbeat crater]

yep

[north oyster]

The best thing right now is pick up the 1k aUEC gifts like crazy 🙂

The FL is 66 SCU over the cutty 42 SCU

Watch Jack Axton's trade refresher course also

ProTip for picking up presents: You can move them to your main storage and sell them from there

[upbeat crater]

alr will do 🙂

[north oyster]

I made about 100K aUEC last night

[gusty reef]

I was doin bh like crazy back then with a mustang
And safe for prospector
And it took me a week or more i guess i forgot

[north oyster]

actually probably more because I still have a bunch I've not sold off yet

I saw where one guy collected 1,200 gift boxes to buy a new ship

[gusty reef]

Much dedication

Appreciated

🤣

[north oyster]

But overall, if you're not in a crowded server, it can grab a bunch very easily. You're making about 5k per minute

[thin escarp]

@north oyster i dont think they touched it.

[upbeat crater]

where should I look for mainly?

[thin escarp]

we mined 2319.91 scu of quant last night.

[north oyster]

Good for planet side then, asteroid was pathetic

[gusty reef]

Indeed
Gift box hunting is good way to get auec. I would say its the safest method for now

[thin escarp]

or at least we didnt notice last night

[north oyster]

good to hear

Bad rolls by me then

[thin escarp]

20.5 million in one mining op.

😄

[north oyster]

Most awesome, great to hear

[thin escarp]

@north oyster i think they spread it out across the planet more.

just fly fast and look for those pairs n clusters

[north oyster]

I could see that

The golden rule of paired in Aaron's Halo has been dashed, ran into 15 pairs and none were Quan

hopefully the dice gods will start liking me again sometime soon

[gusty reef]

Asteroid mining been very buggy for me
Most of the time the scanners fails me and i need to QT to fix it...
It hells for me

[mossy radish]

is there going to be a new mining ship to compete with the prospector? ive seen a white boxed image of what looks like an argo mule with a mining laser strapped on top of it

[crimson oak]

i'd absolutely love a new mining ship

preferably solo like the prospector but with better mining lasers and a tracktor beam

[hard moon]

does the ROC still explode randomly in the back of the nomad?

[unique acorn]

I’m a new owner of the caterpillar, not only do I get lost in it. But the biggest difference I found was that the default quantum drive on the Cat is quite nice which QT is it ? And would y’all agree it is nice ? Or there are better ones ?

[royal plume]

What's the best Low Risk Item to trade?

[open pebble]

Flourine

[royal plume]

Can that be transported on a Raft?

[sonic laurel]

all tradeable commodities can be traded in a raft

[astral granite]

If you have to claim your mining ship like argo mole or prospector do you loose your mining modules

[verbal cargo]

Yes

[astral granite]

KK thx

[royal plume]

Uhg, well that was a Wasted trip. Only made a Profit of 2k >.<

[thin escarp]

trading is borked

unless you are selling refined mined resources

[mossy radish]

so i somehow lost my mining head + modules on my prospector

couldnt find it in niknax

100% certain that i equip since i checked if it was on when i was flying

[south basin]

Is there a workaround for gem tornados using the ROC?

[coarse cape]

how? its been working for me pretty well

[thin escarp]

its mostly borked

lol

[coarse cape]

how tho

lol

[thin escarp]

lack of supply

[coarse cape]

huh

[thin escarp]

in alot of areas.

[coarse cape]

what are you trying to buy

and where

[thin escarp]

how much cargo are you buying

[coarse cape]

i currently got a taurus but i havent had a stock issue besides from laranite

[thin escarp]

its a known fact that trading is mostly fucked man idk what ya gettin at

😄

are you on aus ?

[coarse cape]

sometimes