industrial-professions

[wild dock]

Whats a CCU, i still dont know a lot of the abbreviations

[atomic falcon]

its where you basically trade in for a different ship. you can take the ship you have and upgrade it to another ship

that gets done via the online store

[wild dock]

oh, i was thinking about melting my titan and upgrading the Argo i got from the refferal program

[atomic falcon]

theres ppl much more experienced than i am at the ccu game so i cant really give you much in advice. but basically my mate has been trading ships back and forth and practically made free store credit out of it

[wild dock]

Thats crazy

[atomic falcon]

mind you he spent a few thousand to begin with

[wild dock]

Isnt there like a special level in the store where if you spend a certain amount you can buy even more expensive packs

[upper garden]

I mean....I don't really understand the point of raging over losing resources during an alpha that will likely include more wipes. This isn't really the time to be trying for any kind of progression.

[atomic falcon]

i have no idea tbh. i dont think so these days

[wild dock]

I heard the next wipe will be 4.0, 3.19 wont even release till Q4 next year

[atomic falcon]

no its not really about the progression tho, i mean yeah its still alpha but if you do manage to make some money to do stuff with/try out gear and ships thats part of the game. so if you get screwed ove by a bug and lose that gear or ship or even the cargo you just bought its a big chunk of the game thats basically taken away from you

[upper garden]

If you get "screwed over by a bug and lose that gear or ship" then you file a bug report and either try to recreate it or go do something else. That's the point of alpha.

It's not early access.

[wild dock]

having no money makes it really difficult to try out the alpha and test things

[upper garden]

It's testing things to see what breaks, and giving CIG more data to work with.

If you have no money, join a group and run missions on other ships until you do.

[atomic falcon]

the whole reason i rage wuit a couple years ago was purely because of stuff like QT into planet bugs and things like that. i reported it many time and thats how the bug with the connie was discovered. as far as i am aware that bug was never fixed because the ship itself need reworking. so the "fix" was to not use that ship and no you dont get any uec refunds to losing shit do to bugs. so after i lost a couple million to silly bugs like that and working my way back up to a full cargo load and losing it again i decided stuff it.

[upper garden]

Running out of money is also an in-game experience people will have to deal with.

[atomic falcon]

i agree, but when it happens multiple times you get a bit fed up with it lol

[wild dock]

But i dont "run out" the game bugs and i loose it. I wouldnt be annoyed if i had gotten attacked by another player or crashed the ship. Its the fact the there isnt any sort of bug protection.

[atomic falcon]

i tried to safeguard myself by not putting all of my credits into one load but that still didnt stop things happening

theres only so many times that " oh well, shit happens" will cut it lol

[upper garden]

That's part of bug testing and reporting. It happening multiple times is actually very valuable data, because it establishes a consistent pattern of states.

[wild dock]

Thats what ill have to do, i tried to do that and save half my money for a just in case type situation but that also cuts profit in half

[upper garden]

That's just another system that needs to be built.

Overall, my point was just that expecting to make any meaningful "progression" in an alpha that will have more wipes is an unrealistic expectations. Right now, progression isn't the point. Finding and reporting bugs is the point.

[atomic falcon]

yep its valuable data, but in my case it was a long wait for a fix, since one of the bugs was with the ship itself. and its currently still on the waiting list for a rework 2 yrs later as far as i know

and since it was the only ship i had at the time, not much i could really do

but im back now and ready to bug out some more

[upper garden]

As gamers, we frequently get hyperfocused on progression, achievements, etc., and we have difficulty breaking out of that mindset.

But progression and achievements are for release time, not now.

[wild dock]

Honestly even in the past month ive noticed less and less bugs so thats nice but stuff like this is still annoying

[atomic falcon]

it def is more stable than when i last played, although my pc isnt handling it as well as it used to

[upper garden]

Anyhow.....is there any means of refining on Microtech? Can't seem to find a terminal, even in Planetary Services

[wild dock]

I get that but I wish they had a better system for it. Like having save points which i know is hard to do but still

[wild dock]

I dont think you can refine there, try going out to like MIC L1 or whatever its called

there should be a refinery there

[atomic falcon]

a quick search of the reddit says go to plaetary services and on the left of the entry is the refining terminals

its a 2 yr old post so i dont know if thats changed at all tho

[wild dock]

Probably has, the game from what ive heard is drastically different from what it was then

[atomic falcon]

its almost a new game compared to what it was when i last played lol

[upper garden]

Yeah, that's what I was basing my search on, but the terminals have been changed. Now there are just two trade terminals, no refining.

[wild dock]

I think youll have to go to the station in an L1 thing, they normally have refineries from what i remember

[hollow sedge]

How do you mine on microtech cuz this wind and SO MANY FUCKING TREES HOLY FUCK made me blow up with a prospector of quant and diamonds

[atomic falcon]

lol

my suggestion? dont

[wild dock]

Dont mess with MT, its impossible to do anything there

[raw shell]

the moons around mic are a nightmare too

[hollow sedge]

So I need to go to daymar?

[wild dock]

I landed there once and it blew my Carrack 250m away from me up a hill

[hollow sedge]

What’s a good mining spot?

[raw shell]

for what, quant?

[atomic falcon]

any of the moons and things are good for mining as far as i know, havent done any in a long time tho.

thats what i used to do anyway, find a quiet moon with the mining outposts or something and go to an area away from traffic

that was back when there was lots of trolls trying to land ships on you tho. dunno if thats improved or not

[wild dock]

i was in a carrack and someone landed a C2 on me

[atomic falcon]

lol

yeah had plenty of stuff like that happen before

[wild dock]

I managed to take off without damaging anything, honestly that surprised me the most

[pliant matrix]

C2 probably had a CS and saw an opening door

[atomic falcon]

last time i played before the rage quit i was escorting someone so they could do some mining while i kept an eye out, out of nowhere a bunch of small fighters came zooming at us and took us out for no reason. dang trolls

[sage geyser]

best trading route in arc corp?

ideally from moons back to Beijini

[atomic falcon]

i used to go to shubin sal -2 and load up on titanium and such

was a fairly easy back and forth run

[sage geyser]

where do you sell titanium

area 18 or beijini?

[atomic falcon]

area 18 i was going to

[wild dock]

I trade the in Hurston, go between one of the moons and Loriville

[atomic falcon]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[sage geyser]

none of it saying area 18

[rocky veldt]

hello do you have any advice about gem mining in asteroids

[wild dock]

This would be great if the trade terminals would actually work

[atomic falcon]

yeah dont run scrap, thats bugged apparently

i dunno about anything else tho

[wild dock]

Very

If it says scrapyard, run

[atomic falcon]

lol

ive been back in the game for 2 days and so far ive managed 1 trade run that got me about 2k credits lmao.

my pc sturggles with the game and it can be very laggy at times

so can take a while to do stuff

also :

[wild dock]

What are your specs?

[atomic falcon]

i5 9600k, 16gb ram, rtx 2070, samsung 970 evo ssd

my ram and cpu are the major bottlenecks at the moment

cpu is running at 4.7ghz at the moment which helps but doesnt solve the issue

[wild dock]

What resolution, i have a 2700x 16gb and a 2060 super. I run pretty good at 1440

[atomic falcon]

only 1080p i have ancient monitors lol

[wild dock]

and im on a corsair MP510 SSD

Thats really weird, you should have no problems

[atomic falcon]

well the game will happily use 20+gig of ram if you have it. and my i5 is flat out when running the game

[wild dock]

Interesting, im upgrading my system to a 5900x, 32gb and a 3080 pretty soon so im very excited to see what thats like

[atomic falcon]

graphics runs fine, but doing something that requires loading like opening a door to your hab can drop me down to sub 10fps lol

[wild dock]

I only have trouble at NB, i have the new clouds turned off i think and i still struggles

[atomic falcon]

yeah NB is a mess for me lol, i have the clouds turned down to med which helps a bit but my main issue is just cpu power. even out in space its bogging me down to like 30 fps, gpu will be cruising along at 50-60% load no worries and my cpu will be screaming it head off

most games it doesnt go about 45 degrees c, playing star cit its cooking along at 65 with my water cooling running flat out lol

[wild dock]

Yeah, I keep all fans at full speed so it’s pretty loud but headphones help

[atomic falcon]

for the murricans, that about 115f for most games and 150ish for star cit

[wild dock]

lol

I keep my PC temps on C because that’s what most people have, it’s easier to compare stats

[atomic falcon]

its also clearly the superior system of measurement lol

[wild dock]

lol

None of the American measurements make any sense

[atomic falcon]

ikr

[wild dock]

I genuinely don’t know how many ft are in a mile

[atomic falcon]

metric are nice round numbers.

[wild dock]

I thinks it’s like 3000 something

I know, it’s awesome

The only thing that throws me off is speed. Like the speed on a highway for you guys is like 100+

[atomic falcon]

like for tons for example.. 1000kg to a ton. in imperial its 2240 pounds.. like wtf man

[wild dock]

I know, it’s dumb

[atomic falcon]

and if you use the "short ton" or 2000lb, that actually only 900kg, so not a full ton lol

[wild dock]

Everyone here uses the short ton

I rarely see anyone convert the whole thing

[atomic falcon]

also wtf is up with measuring everything in fractions.. 9/16ths of an inch.. most ppl cant add or subtract with fractions, how do you expect builders to follow plans lol

[wild dock]

Builders are something else, they can do conversions and stuff like that in their head insanely fast

[atomic falcon]

they kinda have to lol

did you know that america did actually adopt the metric system officially? the populace refused to use it

[wild dock]

We would do that 😂

[atomic falcon]

lol

theres only like 3 countries on the planet that still use the imperial system

maybe one day they will catch up 😛

[wild dock]

We’re the only developed country that does I think

Also the only developed country without free healthcare

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

😂

[atomic falcon]

yeah ... land of the free, free to die because you cant afford basica things to keep you alive lol

granted there are things i think we could adopt over here from the usa tho

[raw shell]

"free".. I don't think that word means what you think it means

[atomic falcon]

not in the usa it doesnt lol

[raw shell]

anywhere. It's not free in the UK either.

[wild dock]

Does an ambulance ride cost 5k tho?

[atomic falcon]

not for me it doesnt.. its... FREE

[raw shell]

someone pays.. and like most things, you get what YOU pay for.

[atomic falcon]

yeah but get this, you pay taxes for these things right? and then you pay an inflated price if you ever have to use those things..

in america at least

for example.. im diabetic. i wouldnt be alive if i lived in america, here in aus? i get a free glucometer ever 18 months and my test strips which are normally about $45 a box i get for about $3

[wild dock]

If you’re poor and diabetic in the US you are genuinely not in a great spot to you know, be alive

The mark up in the us for medicine is stupid

[atomic falcon]

yeah so ive heard

[wild dock]

Even with insurance my grandparents pay like 30-40k in prescription meds every year

It’s not ok

[atomic falcon]

man that sucks.. im on a disability pension so i get my meds pretty cheap. i spend maybe a couple of thousand a year

but even if youre just on low income here you can get cheaper meds. and yeah its not free and someone has to pay for it. its paid by tax dollars. theres no reason that it couldnt work the same over there, a lot more ppl paying taxes in america than there is in australia lol

[wild dock]

Don’t get people here started on taxes, I’ve brought it up like 2 times ever and regretted it both times

[atomic falcon]

yeah, im surprised i havent been banned from the server tbh. ive prob pissed a lot of americans off by now XD

[raw shell]

guess that works when you're on disability. Sucks if you're a working taxpayer eh?

[atomic falcon]

even if youre a tax payer its still a shitload cheaper than paying for med in the states

[wild dock]

Only the ones that aren’t open to any discussion

[atomic falcon]

i used to work myself before i became disabled and yeah it was more expensive for meds and such but you could still buy insulin here without having to rob a bank every week

[raw shell]

well can't speak to the cost, or the quality of medical care in australia.

I can say I wouldnt' want to live there.

[wild dock]

It’s definitely not that much worse, people here are literally dying just trying to buy the shit they need to live

[atomic falcon]

well once you get used to everything wanting to eat you its pretty decent really

[raw shell]

I have experienced healthcare quality in the UK.. and it was scary as fuck

[atomic falcon]

but yeah id say from what i know of healthcare in usa compared to here id take aus healthcare any day

[wild dock]

I really want to go there at some point but if I see a god damn huntsman spider I’ll just die on the spot

[atomic falcon]

haha

they wont kill you tho. they arent even really that scary tbh. creepy crawly yeah but they dont hurt really

its the stuff you dont see that you gotta worry about

[wild dock]

Are you telling me you guys have some stupid shit like a tiny ass spider or some shit with venom strong enough to kill 100 people

[raw shell]

well speaking as an american taxpayer, I'm glad you're there too, legleg 😄

[atomic falcon]

you mean like redbacks, trap doors, funnelwebs etc? uhh yeah

[atomic falcon]

lol

[wild dock]

Trap door spider shouldn’t exist, those were made when god was high or something

[atomic falcon]

lol yeah we have some pretty cursed critters here. some of the nastiest/deadliest animals are all here in aus

having said that tho, we actually have very few deaths per year from things like spider or snake bites etc

pretty much all hospitals keep antivenoms and things laying about

not much we can do about tourists that want to feed the sharks tho

[wild dock]

Well you guys know not to fuck with shit you shouldnt and you have the ability to combat it. I can garantee that if you let a bunch of rednecks loose there it would end in most of them dying to stupid shit like crocodiles or kangaroos

[atomic falcon]

lol yeah probably. tho we have a lot of ppl go touring the outback and survive. basic rule of thumb is to look before you leap i guess. dont go jumping in a random watering hole without having a check around first. that sort of thing

and dont try to hug a kangaroo no matter how friendly it seems

[wild dock]

We already have issues with florida, everyone there seems to think that crocodiles are like little pets or something

[atomic falcon]

been kicked in the guts by a roo before, not much fun

[wild dock]

This is the shit Florida does

[atomic falcon]

yeah crocs can be a lot nastier than gators, typically pretty aggressive and can grow pretty large, saltwater crocs are prob the more dangerous ones but i wouldnt be sticking my face anywhere near any croc tbh

[wild dock]

clearly she didnt get the memo

[atomic falcon]

well that appear to be a gator not a croc. i know ppl keep them as pets over there, not allowed to do that here. too many ppl got eaten by their pets lol

[wild dock]

lol

[atomic falcon]

bloody things will take down cows and such no problems, a human has no chance

[wild dock]

well, here everyone in florida has at least one gun at all times so that normally takes care of that problem

arent we supposed to get pets in game at some point

[atomic falcon]

gun isnt gonna do you much good if youre walking near a river and a croc grabs you by the ankle and goes into a death roll.

as for pets in game i have no idea. i dont imagine them lasting too long if you take them on the ship with you lol

[wild dock]

lol

[atomic falcon]

with how often we lose our ships for whatever reason

[wild dock]

i assume theyll wait till they implement base building

which probably wont be for a while

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/ezzw5j/pets_confirmed/

[atomic falcon]

yeah i imagine so. that will be pretty cool, ill be able to be a country bumpkin in space and have my own little farm

[wild dock]

lol

[atomic falcon]

wheres muh space cows

[wild dock]

I went the opposite direction with that

[compact elk]

Hello, is it still possible to sell SLAM ?

[wild dock]

i was thinking more like a slam production facility

Wow

[atomic falcon]

lol

[compact elk]

lol

[wild dock]

thats a crazy coincidence

yes

Just watch out for the random searches on most stations

Its the most profitable type of shipment as far as im aware

[atomic falcon]

thats something i havent come across, the random interdictions. used to get those all the damn time before so it was near impossible to run any vice stuff

nearly every trip at one stage

[compact elk]

I went to several stations and couldn't sell it

[wild dock]

Ive probably been searched 5 or 6 times in total but then again i dont have a ton of play time

use the tool on the website

[compact elk]

Which one?

[atomic falcon]

sc trade tools probably

[wild dock]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

had to go find it

[atomic falcon]

i used to always use gallog as i really liked the layout of it. but i discovered today its not accurate

its also slow as all hell at the moment

[wild dock]

I havent been able to really use this one but ive heard its great

Every time i try i bug out and loose my ship

[compact elk]

Thanks but do i need to use the console in admin or another?

[atomic falcon]

no you use your browser

oh you mean to trade .. duhh lol

[compact elk]

In SC

xD

[atomic falcon]

its almost 5 am here, my brains not working

[compact elk]

No problem

[atomic falcon]

the site should tell you where you can sell it

[wild dock]

The website tells you everything you need to do

[atomic falcon]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/SLAM

that shows you where you can sell/buy. most of the places you sell will be hidden tho and harder to find

[compact elk]

Yeah just need to find the right console

[atomic falcon]

im guessing so, for that you will prob have to use google or someone else that knows as i dont do vice runs myself

i can pretty much make the same if not more money in the same amount of time by doing regular cargo

[wild dock]

If i was going to sell vice id do it through Grim Hex, no searches as far as im aware

[compact elk]

Yeah i just wanted to try vice cargo

[wild dock]

If youre going to run it do it through Grim

The sale price for everything in the game is the same no matter where you are i think, that will change later

[compact elk]

Okay i will try one last time at crul5

Then go to grimex

[wild dock]

Grim is a little weird to land at of youve never dont it before so be careful on approach

[compact elk]

Already done it one time but thanks for the advice

[wild dock]

What ship are you in

[compact elk]

Raft

[wild dock]

Cool

[compact elk]

Yeah really nice ship

[atomic falcon]

tempted to get back in verse and play a little but the sun will be coming up soon lol

[wild dock]

That’s so weird, I just at lunch and the sun is just now coming up

[rocky veldt]

i have a question do you have any advice about mining gems in space on asteroids

[atomic falcon]

barest hint of light coming in now

[wild dock]

I’ve only done it once, can’t say much other that if you’re using a prospector make sure you have a female character

[atomic falcon]

wat

[wild dock]

The other guy was asking about space mining

[atomic falcon]

yeah but what does having a female character make any difference?

[wild dock]

Male characters get stuck in the seat of the prospector

[atomic falcon]

lmao

[wild dock]

Idk, it’s a pretty common thing that happened to me. I’m not doing that again

I have a ROC so if I need to mine I’ll use that

[atomic falcon]

isnt that the ground vehicle?

im not up to date with all the mining capable vehicles

[wild dock]

Yes

ROC is the little ATV thing and the prospector is the solo space mining ship

[glossy peak]

can i call a roc on Aberdeen?

[atomic falcon]

yeah i know the prospector, and im pretty sure ive seen the roc before just couldnt remember

[compact elk]

But there is 2 different ROC

[wild dock]

Yes, go to a mining outpost

[glossy peak]

thanks

[wild dock]

There’s one ROC that I don’t really don’t understand. The solo one seems more efficient

[atomic falcon]

depends on where you last called it now.

[wild dock]

I’ve gotten like one full ROC and made like 80k in 45ish min

[atomic falcon]

nice

[compact elk]

Clean

[atomic falcon]

im too lazy to fiddle about with the mining, but then i fiddle about with transporting crap all over the verse on the other hand

[wild dock]

Mining in my experience is more stable but way more boring

At least with hauling you fly around a bunch

[atomic falcon]

yeah probably. last i tried it was decent money but more risky due to being in one place for a while

thats why i stuck to hauling, not sitting in one spot to get picked off

[wild dock]

As long as you’re at least a little away from a marked spot you’ll be fine

[atomic falcon]

now that i have a c2 for a while i can transport vehicles too im pretty sure.

[wild dock]

A ton of them

[atomic falcon]

so if a market kind of thing comes in for that ill be set lol

[wild dock]

If I had to guess you could get like 4 ROCs minimum

[atomic falcon]

no idea, possibly.

havent actually tried a lot with it yet

[wild dock]

Or get a bunch of people to go mining and make a shit ton of money

[atomic falcon]

yeah, id like to see a sort of system like what they use for truckers in the usa tbh. you post up jobs with an offer and ppl can chose to take the job if they like the price

i know that players can sort of do that now with contract stuff

[wild dock]

You kind of can with beacons, request transport from one place to another

[atomic falcon]

yeah, would be nice for it to be properly implemented tho i think

[native plank]

Does anyone know a good place to mine Hadanite?

[wild dock]

Any admin office

Arcane

[native plank]

Wdym?

[wild dock]

Any of the stations that have an admin terminal are good for that

[atomic falcon]

https://sc-trade.tools/deposits/Hadanite

best place to mine it is aberdeen apparently

[wild dock]

Like at Port Olisar or whatever go to the admin room in the galleria

Aberdeen is great for it

[native plank]

Thx will check it out.

[raw shell]

be aware you need special heat armor for aberdeen.. also it's extremely bright in day. I find it annoying.

[atomic falcon]

yeah need sunglasses or tinted visors

[raw shell]

also no ground vehicle pad station there

[atomic falcon]

this is why id really like to see a system where you could put up a player job board with a price offer for someone to come pick you up. someone like me would be all over that

get on the space internet and see what jobs are up for grabs and and go off and haul someones vehicles

[worthy scroll]

You can technically do that with beacons. It's a placeholder solution for now.

[raw shell]

you really need to be able to fly around in a ship with a roc, the spawns are too far apart and that roc is too brittle

[atomic falcon]

yep, thats why im hoping for a job board thing. will be a break from hauling cargo from station to station and add a bit of variety

not seeing too many ppl using beacons tho apart from real quick ones between freinds at the moment

[hasty wedge]

I've save a few people via beacons. no pirating associated with them as of yet.

[raw shell]

I find mining pretty entertaining personally, just found this 😄

less than a minute from dropping out of orbit too

[blissful rain]

Hiya, any tips on how to break quantanium rocks higher than 5k on a prospector using a lancer head? i tried using a surge module but when i do get it to teh green/red zone it goes down and down and cant maintain power in the green zone

[blissful rain]

beacons anyone... thats what beacons are for

[atomic falcon]

not seeing too many ppl using beacons tho apart from real quick ones between freinds at the moment

[blissful rain]

yea because alpha

[raw shell]

I hit a stampede after a surge but sometimes the resistance is just too high

[blissful rain]

and not much gameplay yet

[blissful rain]

ahh ok cool

what does a brandt do?

[atomic falcon]

i think most ppl have multiple ships or vehicles at this point also so dont need anyone to transport things for them

[raw shell]

Brandt stops it from jumping up and down so much, if the instability is high. I always have those three with the lancet.. surge, stampede and brandt

[blissful rain]

this

[blissful rain]

cool ok

how do u maintain power after a surge?

[raw shell]

just crank it all the way up. if it's in the green, fire off a stampede and adjust it down a bit

sometimes I try two surges on really big rocks but it rarely ends well

best to have friends with 6k+ rocks

[oak lake]

I'm working on a site for that, but it won't be over useful till we get larger servers. You might also see UEECG, they offer EMS any time

[atomic falcon]

im talking about like what the truckers in usa use currently, like when youre in comms range you can open it up on the mobi

pretty cool that orgs are doing sites and stuff tho

[oak lake]

Definitely would like to see some in game version of that, but for now what I'm working is intended to allow folks to post work requests and service offerings

It's fun, it's been my introduction to full stack development

[atomic falcon]

nice. should add a bit more variety and more of a social aspect to the game

[blissful rain]

ahh ok cool

[hollow sedge]

How does the prospecter scan an rock

[prime nimbus]

when hand mining, you can place ore in a box, can you turn those boxes into a box that goes into the ship scu or what it is called

[woeful sky]

you can either go in mining mode while looking at the rock and it will scan automatically, or you can go in scanner mode and you hold lmb and it will scan but some rocks are not scannable at all

[hollow sedge]

Put the box in a box in a box in a box and attach it to a raft

Or can use tab to scan

Well I had mining mod an was 50 meter from a rock looked at it idnt scan

[woeful sky]

yeah some of them just dont like to be scanned, by 50 meters it wouldve scanned it if it could

[balmy nymph]

Sometimes the UI bugs out and you need to put the mining laser away and pull it back out again to make it work.

[native plank]

When mining with the ROC is it better to scan with ship land, take ROC out mine then hop back in and repeat? Or park your ship in a nice spot and take the ROC out, only come back when it's time to leave or you need to resupply yourself?

[royal spear]

I'd say scan with ship given the distances between minables. It can be tricky as you need to hit them at low range. I find flying fairly low at 300-350 speed and hitting ping on cd yields the best results. Then turn and burn when I spot it

[native plank]

Is cutty the most recommended ship for holding the ROC when out mining?

[crimson mantle]

It's the cheapest that does a good job, yes

You can try your luck with the nomad, but it's been iffy in the past

The steps up are the Freelancer MAX, Mercury

Bigger than that it's way overkill 😄

Unless you deploy multiple ROCs, then you can look at Starfarer, Starlifters, etc.

[native plank]

Alrighty, thanks.

[drifting flower]

how are people mining with the UI so borked this patch. it drives me nuts

[crystal quartz]

The Mole jumping around and the stupid ass non stop screen fracturing is so stupid

[worthy scroll]

Oh I had no idea delivery missions took you to places like this now.

[hollow lantern]

Try msr

[prisma sentinel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680793621750218874/799527678398300190/unknown.png

[tawny leaf]

Is there a way to break up workorders if what you've refined is too big for any of your ships?

[north oyster]

Unfortunately, no. You will need at least a Cutlass Black, all other ships are too small in the cargo area

Cutty can easily handle one refined ore load from a Prospector

You may need to rent a sizable ship like the cutty or FL

[north oyster]

I have found the Freelancer MAX to be the best ROC escort out there. Great on fuel, small enough to get in tight spots (unlike the MSR) and also a super wide ramp that makes for easy roll-on and roll-off operation. I upgraded my cutty to a MAX for this very reason.

[thin escarp]

pray for me as a i have 12 refinery orders to deliver and this hotel internet is sus

a clean 7.5 mil awaits me though

[devout thistle]

Brother.

You trying to lose your shit?

[thin escarp]

@devout thistle LOL i'm gonna have one of the homies fly.

[devout thistle]

Yeah.. I'd fucking hope.

[thin escarp]

i delivered 6 mil yesterday and 11 mil the day before

[devout thistle]

Do you just mine all day? Good god.

[thin escarp]

i must say 12 hail chris roberts before i leave station

I run a massive scale mining operation with my org.

aswell as weekly training sessions for new people etc. so it all adds up.

having a few moles helps.

[devout thistle]

Yeah, I can imagine.

Bet the hotel wifi doesn't though.

[thin escarp]

before 3.15 hit my org mined 5 billion auec in quant 😄

in like a 14 months.

[tawny leaf]

You're selling me on a Freelancer but man, I just can't come around on its looks.

[thin escarp]

i hate the way it looks too otter.

[slate isle]

hey peoples. i cant get the bot commands to work for this, so im just going to ask. where can i buy medical supplies? i already tried HUR L3 and L1, as well as Everus. google is not helping right now, just giving old information seemingly.

[native plank]

Is it worth purchasing the cutty for ROC mining?

[chilly mason]

It’ll fit in a cutty if that’s what your asking.

[native plank]

I'm probably answering my own question but I'm currently using the cutty and ROC combo from the IAE event in order to start making cash. My plan is to use the cash to get a ship and ROC so I can continue making cash. Wanted to know if the cutty is cheap, reliable and good for ROC mining.

[tawny leaf]

I think you could get a lot of different answers, depending on what you mine, where you mine, how often you like doing market runs, how well you prefer to defend yourself, how you prefer your ship to handle, etc, etc, etc.

Ultimately it comes down to preference. But the Freelancer, MSR and Cutlass are all very common choices.

[chilly mason]

Personally i would go freelancer. Cause it’ll fit a roc and you could use it to trade.

[thin escarp]

@native plank roc mining sus rn

kinda hard to scan. gotta go real low. fast

can be very buggy at times

[native plank]

Might explain why I found it better to park the ship and look for rocks with the ROC compared to flying around and searching for rocks.

[earnest tendon]

Anybody know any decent trade routes in Star Citizen?

[native plank]

After reviewing the Freelancer + Max, Drake Cutlass Black and the MSR I think I like the Freelancer Max the most. Will definitely look into purchasing it but 2.1mill is a bit steep for me atm, will see what I can do.

[cyan salmon]

Any solution to the ROC extraction mode not working? Rocks just dance around it?

😔 was so looking forward to mining

Stepped out of ROC and died lol

It’s unplayable

[prime nimbus]

what refinery process do you guys recommend if i have tons of cargo and i want to process it?

[upper garden]

Either I'm too dumb to figure it out, or installing the Lancet MH1 mining head on the Prospector is broken.

[civic kite]

is there a ship that the roc can fit in that fits in the carrack hangar?

is the nomad small enough?

[pallid temple]

No

[civic kite]

pain

[upper garden]

Why? Just put the Roc in the front ground vehicle hangar where it belongs

[civic kite]

just trying to make a 3 man op

one in carrack flying around scanning for the next deposits, one in the ship to transport to roc, one to mine

[upper garden]

Why would you need one to fly the transport the roc and one to mine with it? Why doesn't one person just take the Roc from the Carrack and mine, and then the Carrack goes to scan more?

[civic kite]

like i said, 3 man op

got 3 people and wanna have a use for all 3 and have fun

[upper garden]

It's not three players worth of work

[civic kite]

not trying to be most efficient

[upper garden]

Not even saying anything about efficiency. You want to have one person literally just fly the Roc to a location and then just sit there while the other person mines? Sounds boring.

[civic kite]

to each their own

[prime nimbus]

is there a ship that has both a mining laser and a refinery on board?

[upper garden]

Odyssey, although we don't have confirmation regarding whether it can mine and refine everything, or just fuel-related stuff.

And the Orion, which definitely can.

[prime nimbus]

ah ok

cuz im totaly new to mining, i think i start by doing hadn mining

[glad trench]

mining orders never expire/overwrite if u just keep adding stuff to refine right? Like no limit?

[alpine latch]

Roc mining, flying low yeah, but do you need to fly at a certain limit so the rocks actually scan?

[distant adder]

Is Roc still viable?

or did it get nerfed

I haven't really played in a looong time

[alpine latch]

Honestly not sure, but the hadanite spawns are rarer

Sooo I guess

[north oyster]

Right now the roc is plagued by multiple issues

[distant adder]

Ouch

That does not sound reassuring

[alpine latch]

Literary every single ore I find is inside a damnn rock so I can't get to it

[alpine latch]

So anyone know about this?

Cuz like the scan radius is so tiny

[raw shell]

You can make money from it but spawns are harder to find. You have to fly low and slow. The cooler will break if you dont repair regularly. Then there is the whole hassle of hauling it around.

[distant adder]

Oh god I forgot all about the nightmare of actually getting the Roc to the area.

My brain actually ommited it from my memory

[alpine latch]

what is the slow tho

in numbers

[raw shell]

Likr 50-70

[distant adder]

Trying to fit the roc into a freelancer mis

is an exercise in frustration

[alpine latch]

Yeah if that's the speed roc mining is useless

[raw shell]

It's not quick money

[distant adder]

I'll keep it solely so that I have a low-value CCU slot in my Exploration pack, then.

[valid shoal]

hey to sell ores i just collect from factory then head up to a city and go to arcorp then use the trading console right?

[prime nimbus]

I hink so

[bright star]

If you're talking about refined ore, then yes.

[valid shoal]

just did it thx guys

[hollow sedge]

When selling refined ore do they have a fix price or random price

[prime nimbus]

whats the point of oxytorch cutter attachment

[pallid temple]

It'll be used to cut hinges and locks in the future

[glossy peak]

if the ore doesnt go into stacks in my roc is there anything i can do to get the ore into a box?

[ancient fractal]

Is scrap still broken?

[worthy scroll]

Isn't that the definition of scrap?

[wild dock]

What’s the biggest cargo ship right now, The C2?

[prime nimbus]

how do i box stuff from my backback

[wild dock]

What is it?

If it’s ore you should be able to right click and hit pack or something like that

[prime nimbus]

i only see drop item

[atomic falcon]

from memory you have to be standing in a ship that can take cargo

[prime nimbus]

aurora mr

guess that ship cannot take cargo

[wild dock]

It can but not much

Go to the IAE if you haven’t already and get something a little bigger

[prime nimbus]

it cant cuz else i would have option to package my ore

[prime nimbus]

with the money i have? LOL

[wild dock]

Free rentals

[atomic falcon]

ive done it in a connie when mining first came out from memory. its been a while. might have been a freelancer

[wild dock]

On every ship in the game

[prime nimbus]

free rentals?????

so its lke a free ship????

[wild dock]

For 2 days

It’s a free 2 day rental on every ship

On New Babbage

[prime nimbus]

oh

[wild dock]

Go rent a few ships for different shit and make some money

It’s great

[prime nimbus]

can a refinery refine personal items?

[wild dock]

Like what

[prime nimbus]

ore

or does it have to be in ship storage?

[wild dock]

I think it has to be in ship storage

But you should definitely go rent something like a MSR and a ROC to go mining

You can make a ton of money doing that

[prime nimbus]

i do hand mining right now xD

[wild dock]

Or rent a fighter and go fuck up some bounties

Why?

[prime nimbus]

didnt have the money to do anything else

[wild dock]

I know, so go rent some more efficient stuff

[prime nimbus]

can i first get some money?

cuz that is what i am doing now

[wild dock]

Sure, go sell what you have to an admin terminal and then fly to MicroTech and go to the IAE

[atomic falcon]

rent ships for free, then use them to make money

[prime nimbus]

i will, is a prospecor included?

[worthy scroll]

You can grab a Prospector for free right now. You'll have 48 hours to use it with the free event rental.

[prime nimbus]

thats plenty

[worthy scroll]

But you have just over three hours left or so to grab it.

[prime nimbus]

AH

thats plenty i think

[worthy scroll]

Event is almost over!

[prime nimbus]

what if i am too late?

[wild dock]

You have like an hour and a half to get there

If you get there after the event is over then you can’t get any free ships

[prime nimbus]

guess i dont get free ships xD

[wild dock]

You can if you hurry

It’s only a couple minute flight to get there

[prime nimbus]

so go to omnicorpo?

icrotech*

and then

[prime nimbus]

so microtech and were tf is aie

[wild dock]

There will be signs telling you where to go

[prime nimbus]

i cant read signs

[worthy scroll]

Microtech, yeah. Get on the tram and wait for the signs. You'll know it when you see it. Go to the first event floor, then go down the stairs underneath the blue ships and you'll see the rental terminals.

[wild dock]

They’re big arrows

[worthy scroll]

Navigating cities is done pretty much entirely by signs so you'll have to get used to it.

[prime nimbus]

i had already trouble finding the spaceport

[wild dock]

When you get to the city head to the building with a shit ton of lights

[prime nimbus]

ok

and when i am there i will say i cannot find it xD

[worthy scroll]

It's very easy to navigate if you just follow the signs. Follow them to the metro first, then once you're on the metro, stay on it until you get to the stop that says the expo is there.

[prime nimbus]

a ok

what do you btw do if you are out of quantum fuel?

[worthy scroll]

Request landing somewhere and refuel.

Open your mobi when you're landed on the pad, click the wrench on the bottom.

[prime nimbus]

were siae

im at microtech but what now

new babbage?

[atomic falcon]

land at the spaceport and get on the tram

[prime nimbus]

\anyt spaceport

[atomic falcon]

at new babbage spaceport. you have to request landing of course

[prime nimbus]

how to filter when quantum drive

[wild dock]

What?

[prime nimbus]

i did quantum jump baggage spacepoort but i lost waypoint

[scarlet rover]

Look at the city. Look for a train line leaving the city. There will be a big flat building with red lights. That's the spaceport

[prime nimbus]

im within 4km yet no contacts

2.2k and no contacts

[wild dock]

Get close and try to use the mobi, if it’s not showing up you might be in the wrong spot, NB is dumb because there are multiple places that look like the spaceport

[prime nimbus]

new baggage 2.2 km and not a single cvontact in my area

[prime nimbus]

i went toi the spot called new baggage

[scarlet rover]

@prime nimbus maybe take this to #star-citizen or #helpdesk instead of cargo/mining.

Also the spaceport is OUTSIDE the city as I said. The closer you get to the city the farther from the port.

[prime nimbus]

oh, i see something with red blinking light

[wild dock]

Go there

That should be it

[wild dock]

Did you find it?

[prime nimbus]

NO

wait

the spacport yes

but not the place that rent free ships

[wild dock]

Where are you?

[bright star]

#911301316402356276

[lilac hedge]

This spaceport is deceptively large

The ATC towers are like, idris sized

[opaque nova]

Hey, so if I don't have the space to take all of this at once can I just take chunks of it at a time or what

Oh

Wait

Thats cSCU

[still valley]

Multiply by 6

[rocky veldt]

is there a way to do gem mining on asteroid efficiently because i think im doing it wrong

[north oyster]

They've been trying to set the spawns to where they are on the surface however that isn't working even planet side

[hollow sedge]

Is there a list what ores are better

[worthy scroll]

Well, my first time doing one of the 45k box missions didn't go well. I didn't know there would be friendlies down there.

4 hours in the slammer. Guess I'm not playing today then lol.

[surreal lance]

Noob here. What ship would ya'll start off the game with?

[worthy scroll]

Aurora if you want to only go with the minimum pledge, Titan as the next option, Cutlass Black as the next. Depends on how much you want to spend.

But, it's worth getting the Mustang IAE package for the 120 month insurance that comes with it. Then if you don't like that ship (it's a pure combat ship at the moment, the cargo area doesn't work), you can upgrade it within the package and keep that insurance.

[surreal lance]

oh. lovely

that just happens to be the one I got

[worthy scroll]

Good choice purely for the insurance that bundle currently has. You can earn money with that ship, the surveillance missions payout well and are easy to do in that ship. So you can either keep it and work towards new ships in-game, or you can put a little more money in and upgrade that ship, while keeping the 120 month insurance.

[valid shoal]

i rented a prospector but i cant use it to collect my raffined ores

is this normal?

[bright star]

Yes. Prospector (and Mole) can't store/transport refined ore. Only mined/raw ore.

You need another ship with enough cargo (SCU) space to transport them. Like Cutlass Black or Freelancer.

[valid shoal]

okie thx, which is the cheapest ship with more than 32 cargo capacity

(more than the prospecor)

[bright star]

That would be Cutlass Black.

With 46 SCU

You can rent one at one of the cargo/refinery decks

[valid shoal]

do you have the rent price in head? if not no problem\

[bright star]

It's 28k / day

27,706 aUEC to be precise

[valid shoal]

okay thats very good

[bright star]

https://finder.cornerstonebase.space/ShipRentals1/b58f7735-9454-4a0a-b724-2bc8d61961d7

[valid shoal]

Thanks !

[bright star]

No problem!

[royal spear]

Everyone always talks about quant mining. Are other materials not worth the effort?

[mellow thicket]

they just don't have the same value. But there is still money to be made

Find a good list of the ore values. 1 sec. I have a link somewhere

This might help https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eXWAtXTkoLgCWFzm-xDhvjyDuV8LPMkSvGoDjsWJy_k/edit#gid=0

[royal spear]

I really like the idea of hauling but I am just really struggling with always finding next to no stock to buy from terminals and few being in demand when I try to sell on routes so thinking I just forsake it for now and work towards a prospector for mining.

[royal spear]

oh nice ty

[mellow thicket]

stock might go up some post IAE

just a theory

[royal spear]

Didn't have much luck today

maybe Crusader is just oversaturated for trading tho

[mellow thicket]

Some lesser traveled routes in MT. but the wind.. oh that wind

[royal spear]

Might try learn some new routes, just feels bad consistently hitting empty stations after all the effort of getting there, landing, surviving stairs, ect 😛

[fathom silo]

So, I've tried ROC mining for quite some time now.. and its cozy enough just minding my own, with a cup of coffee... Altough.. would be nice to step Up the game a bit borg for the blogger equipment.. but also a bigger payout 💲💲💲.. tought about trying prospector.. but I dont feel like retning it without Knowing what to use, where to mine how to mine with it and first and foremost... What to mine.. Anyone feeling like showing the prospector-ropes to a mining prodigy one of the following days? 😁😁

[mellow thicket]

Ref the sheet I linked. That will help @fathom silo

[royal spear]

I gather from that sheet that you always go Lancet?

[amber rover]

if you rent a prospector you wont be able to switch out the mining head

[mellow thicket]

generally. yes. but in a MOLE using lasers with different stats can provide benefits. Like more power to do the first crack. But with modules, you can get over that and other issues.

[royal spear]

So with rental prospector I can just head out immediately with what's on it

?

[mellow thicket]

you can. but you will not be going for quant

[tepid hawk]

Is it worth it to hand mine hadanite found on asteroids? Or not worth the time

[north oyster]

Depends on if you can get them, sometimes spawns in the rock. I think each gem fetches about 275 aUEC

Might be 188 aUEC, I can't recall

[tepid hawk]

yeah that's the amount

[tawny leaf]

Prospector uses s1 mining heads, yeah?

[tepid hawk]

yup\

[hollow sedge]

how lucrative is mining?

[fathom silo]

Is a prospector viable for surface mining? 🤔

[tepid hawk]

It can be if you're lucky, efficient and patient

I think with how bounty hunting is currently bugged mining is on equal footing

[fair warren]

Do I have to buy the suit to start mining?

or can I just buy the yellow rucksack?

[open pebble]

Sooo trying to sell some stuff at new babbage, but it's not letting me

[cyan salmon]

Anyone know why ROC ores is not showing in the sell tab of a trading center?

[delicate girder]

Are you sure that you didn't already sell it? The terminal can sometimes kinda show a ghost of what was in your ship which as already been sold. Put your ship back on the pad and see if the cargo is there are already sold.

[delicate girder]

What trading center?

I think it should show up at a TDD but probably not at an admin based on what I've seen in 3.15 so far.

[cyan salmon]

I was at a mining facility using the trading terminal in the storage building

[delicate girder]

I know that used to work, but I haven't tried that in 3.15 yet. There seems to have been changes to how selling works in 3.15. I've been able to sell ore and cargo at TDDs so far, but that's all I've done atm.

[blissful geode]

Does diverting power to weapons affect your mining lasers at all?

[sharp tree]

whats the best QT drive to get for my prospector?

[subtle gazelle]

S1 probably atlas

Best fuel to speed ratio

[sharp tree]

nice ty, im just trying to be able to scoop up more than one quant rock before having to head back to a refinery lol

[split crest]

does prospector work rn or should i just rent a ROC

haven't tried mining before just wanna do it for something different

i'd just be lasering random decent value rocks

got a prospector loaner from vulture

[fair warren]

where is the best place for a first time player to mine?

[subtle gazelle]

Both work

Both have issues

About the same level of jank, prospector is probably more frustrating with ship scan issues

[marble crater]

I have a far better time mining in a Prospector vs a ROC. can fill up my Prospector with Quant in under 30 minutes vs 2&1/2 hours to fill up my ROC with Hadanite

[pliant matrix]

if only Prospector could throw out innert like Roc...

I'd really good time mining with pros before they add the consumable system. don't really like it since then

[hollow sedge]

They dont get selled ther ther are orange walls and doors when your on a station thats wher you sell them

[royal spear]

Is the Mole viable for solo mining or does it need a crew?

[hollow sedge]

It can solo mine but you have to switch seats

[royal spear]

hmm a bit risky then

[hollow sedge]

It's better with an crew

But if you want to mine solo the prospecter is the way to go

[hollow sedge]

It's your choice you could rent it and try it out

[royal spear]

yee just trying to plan long term

why won't my mining laser scan this?

neither will my scanner

[frozen moss]

How’s cargo running been? The bug when you store your ship and it makes you claim still happening?

[hollow sedge]

Some rocks can't get scanned it's a glitch

Restarting game when nothing works wit the scanner

[royal spear]

in theory if I alt+f4 out all of my mined stuff will be back at my last station right?

[hollow sedge]

I believe so

My game crashed once and logging back in I was still wher I crashed

[royal spear]

hmm I wish that happened more often 😛

[upper garden]

Anyone had the experience of the scanner picking up nodes around places like MIC-L1, but then as you fly up to the locations, the node icon disappears and there's nothing there?

[royal spear]

Not had that yet thankfully

Are you able to JUST jetison quantanium or do you have to ditch everything?

[hollow sedge]

Had one at hur L1

[upper garden]

Had it happen like 5 times.

[open pebble]

Definitely not. My wallet would be closer to 500k if I did.

[coral pond]

what is P-Type and N-Type, etc for asteroid?

[open pebble]

Fucking hate this game sometimes. Couldn't sell at Microtech, so I flew to ArcCorp. Just as I was coming out of quantum, I get an interdiction alert and my C2, with a full load of cargo, just blows up.

[ancient fractal]

Man i am to hyped for the starferer to acculy refine ores

https://youtu.be/_gibGORnVi8

[coral pond]

woot

[odd nacelle]

So, is cargo running fucked?

I'm about to embark on a few runs. My first since 3.11

[quick matrix]

What website has best trader route info?

[odd nacelle]

You can try sc-trade.tools/

[marble crater]

had limited success with Trading, usually get a problem with not being able to buy enough or not being able to sell enough

[open pebble]

Or your ship blows up as it comes out of quantum

[odd nacelle]

Yes, that can be a problem due to how supply works.

Sounds like my experience will be like 3.11, run bulk goods for 20k profit a run

It's a good thing I actually enjoy doing it haha

I can't stand mining in SC.

[marble crater]

selling bulk anything is the problem though

[open pebble]

On high value stuff like laranite, yes, but something like fluorine should be fine

[marble crater]

might be better now that IAE is over

[odd nacelle]

Yeah, that's what I would do in my cat

Load up whatever was most valuable, but fill with like 1aUEC profit/unit items the rest of the way

As long as you have the capital and volume, you'll make at least some money.

[marble crater]

if you can sell it sure

[odd nacelle]

TDDs typically have very good acceptance rates.

and very high consumption rates.

[quick matrix]

Ok good to know

[open pebble]

It took 2 or 3 full loads of fluorine in my C2 before I maxed out PO

[marble crater]

it should be better now with the event over at least

[coral pond]

I had no issue with doing some runs the otherday

full Cat of Titanium

[royal spear]

Everyone else makes finding these rare ores look so easy and here I am knee deep in aluminium

[wintry pine]

I have tried a couple of cargo runs lately and have had a hard time finding enough to either a) fill my hold while buying or b) sell to the destination without having to wait a long time for refresh. Is this the state of hauling for the foreseeable future or am I just unlucky? I used the sc-trade.tools site to try and pick commodities that didn't have wait times but still ended up in the above situation. (And this was Freelancer Max levels of cargo, not like A2 or anything.)

[royal spear]

I've had that too with RAFT cargo. I think the routes are just oversaturated as everyone runs the same ones off sc-trade

[wintry pine]

It would be nice to have a "Cargo Haul" mission similar to box delivery that has the player move X SCU from point a to point b, which would mean they would not necessarily have to worry about supply/demand. The profit wouldn't need to be as high as buy/sell (since the financial risk is not on the hauler), but it would be a nice mission alternative.

[wild dock]

That and the fact that everyone has the C2s at their disposal from IAE

[royal spear]

how comes?

[wild dock]

Becuase eveyone has the best cargo ships there are more people running cargo, after all the rentals expire withen the next 48 hours I think the stock levels will go back to a more normal level

I personally rented the RAFT and C2 to try out shipping and have noticed that its very hard to find somewhere to fill up even the RAFT

Ill be going back to mining after my rentals expire, ive made a decent amount doing trading but not enough to afford any decent trade ship for myself. Im pretty sure there are a lot of people doing the same thing i did

[coarse cape]

Yeah I can’t wait for the price drop

[wild dock]

What price drop

[royal spear]

Is there any way to pass mined cargo off to a friend in a cargo ship while in space?

[native plank]

Can the ROC be upgraded or is it ready to mine perfectly straight out of the box?

[royal spear]

it can mine out of the box but I imagine there are upgrades to it. I've only had a rental

[lilac hedge]

Not yet, only if it's mined in a ROC, where you can take the stuff out of the back of it.

However, this may change with 3.18 when the cargo refactor is planned

We don't quite know how the refactor's first release will impact minables though

[native plank]

Anyone know how much the ROC costs to purchase and where?

[verbal cargo]

172000, new deal at lorville has it

[raw shell]

since a freelancer max has more cargo space, can I transport more mining modules in that to a different station or does it not work like that?

[burnt burrow]

Been a long time since I’ve done mining, is it still worth doing quant mining with a mole and raft for transport?

[thin escarp]

i average 600k+ in my mole

quant only.

takes about 30 minutes or less.

@burnt burrow

usually roll with a crew though. solo isnt my style

[burnt burrow]

Okay cool. Ill give it a try then as I currently haven't got a mole and was going to pick one up if it was going to be worth it, I had one pal who can man the laser and I can fly

[thin escarp]

def change the lasers and get a solid loadout if you plan on just having 1 laser running.

i also use a scout so i'm not looking for ages.

[burnt burrow]

What would you recommend for the laser head?

Ive heard lancer is good?

[thin escarp]

lemme know if you need help i run massive scale mining operations.

i'll send you my mining guide hold up

[raw shell]

why yes, yes you can

[hollow sedge]

I somho managed to break quantinium rock with my stock prospector

[civic thorn]

@slate sparrow should ask your question here

[slate sparrow]

how do I change between laser and portal in hand mining?

[royal spear]

is it actually possible to mine quant with a rental prospector? I found a really juicy rock

[cedar flower]

Seems like the Hull C gets a tractor beam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZoC9MlPFdg

[carmine quartz]

anybody want me to run cargo with them (I stay on board ur ship or smth lol)

[south iris]

hey guys where can i sell ilegal cargo at CRU-L5 i was told there was a black market but i cant seem to find it

[dusky cave]

Top 3 Quant mining spots in the current patch?

[surreal lance]

so I may have made a noob mistake and I bought the RAFT. Fell in love with that ship as soon as I saw it. Built it in another game. Got some work to do with it, but what suggestions we got???

[crystal quartz]

Anyone bored and wana help me break this 7k rock cant do it solo

[cedar flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/880229758225510452/916120541369339984/unknown.png

[storm flame]

is there anything good to run atm?

[thin escarp]

@dusky cave i'll dm you a guide i made

[dusky cave]

Just got a mole. Getting back to mining after years

[delicate girder]

Guide to hauling or mining? Either way, can I have it too?

[ancient fractal]

Why is noone talking over misc starferers likely hood of getting the abilety to refine the mole's and prospector's ore's next patch??

[crystal quartz]

Because its a rumor

[thin escarp]

@delicate girder its a mining guide

[delicate girder]

Would be nice. The starferer needs some type of love.

[sage kernel]

anyway to fix this stupid hud not showing my powerlevels?

[formal berry]

you're currently in extraction mode so that may be it

if not just the usual power cycle

[sage kernel]

no its on both modes

[formal berry]

sometimes i dont see it for certain nodes but that's prospector. if it's not showing up for any nodes might be a server hop time

[sage kernel]

is aberdeen still the best place to roc mine?

[maiden brook]

Im hyped about the Odyssey. Its nice knowing I can take my Prospector and Roc along.

[sage kernel]

mining makes me angry

[subtle cradle]

How does the Freelancer handle compared to the Raft? Because the Raft feels VERY heavy to manoeuvre for only being a 96 scu ship

[upper garden]

It would be cool to eventually get an API so we can keep tabs on the progress of various refining jobs without having to be in-game and at a terminal.

[main saddle]

Freelancer is more nimble. You can run bounties even in a Max. Also has good low level atmospheric flight for ROC mining.

[subtle cradle]

Fuck.. I was really hoping raft was a good choice, since I like the look of it, but it has nothing going for it.
Thanks for the answer bro

[main saddle]

I chose to get RAFT for hauling refined ore. I like the FL, but will just grind for one. I have a Nomad for ROC.

If you pledged for the RAFT, you could either melt it and get the standard FL with store credit (but only 6 mo insurance) or upgrade it to a Max and keep the RAFT insurance.

[subtle cradle]

I upgraded from Cutty to Raft, since I only do mining right now after I came back in 3.15. And the raft seemed perfect for my solo mining ~ 800.000 auec runs

[main saddle]

Oh nice hauls

[subtle cradle]

Which is all the eggs I wanna put in one basket anyway

[main saddle]

Lol I hear ya

[subtle cradle]

Just 100% refined quantanium

If I was doing trading I probably wouldn't go for anything less than a C2 or Cat

[main saddle]

Oh yeah. Margins are small otherwise.

[quick isle]

does anyone know where you sell after you buy somethign for traiding

[subtle cradle]

Have a poke around here mate https://sc-trade.tools/home

[lyric nest]

Sounds sus ngl

[brisk loom]

sounds like free money

[split crest]

what's the best mining laser for someone who can't be arsed to use modules ever

because i do not want to have to fly over and buy them again if the game bugs out and causes me to lose my ship

[main saddle]

I just use a Helix for raw power on most stuff. It can be unstable with quant, so a lot of people use a Lancet for the stability, but it can take a long time to work with and might not have the power without a module.

[rose root]

Humble opinion guys....can I get a ship I can fly solo-two people that can haul a decent amount, hold a roc and pew pew ?

[carmine quartz]

wait does that make me seem like a pirate

i’m new to the game lol and not an ass like that

[ancient fractal]

The devs did confirmed that they are makeing the starferer refine ores for the mining ships 3 weeks ago

They are makeing mining a golden standard profession

https://youtu.be/_gibGORnVi8?t=216

[rose root]

hey guys the RSI website wont say, how much cargo can a connie taurus hold?

[ancient fractal]

174

[rose root]

Thanks 🙂

[smoky gust]

Is lancet decent enough to mine quantaniums on planet without modules?

[rose root]

hey guys MSR cargo hold v Raft cargo hold? similar size?

[pliant matrix]

Msr 114 and raft 96 iirc

Also I think msr fly way better

[smoky gust]

MSR flies much better

[woeful moss]

much better

[pliant matrix]

Does raft have a ramp to get a véhicule inside or its cargo are only about boxes?

[rose root]

Yep. Ill haul in my MSR for now. I have a RAFT as well, but ive been told to keep it because eventually it wil unload faster

[woeful moss]

only boxes

[woeful moss]

yeah should be next year sometime

[rose root]

@woeful moss Nice! next purchase will be to grind and get a Prospector in-game for easy creds

[woeful moss]

Enjoy. Prospector is relaxing. Put on some nice space cowboy music. It will only get stressful once that quant hits your cargobags 😄

[rose root]

Haha. music and relaxation is for roc mining, quant makes me nervous 😛

[sudden haven]

Cutlass black

[slate sparrow]

where can I buy ammo in Everus Harbor?

[woeful moss]

Maybe you cant

[floral willow]

Everus doesn't have a firearms shop, last I checked. Best bet is Loreville

[hollow sedge]

Lorville doesn't have a gun store.

[north oyster]

and you get a Carrack loaner while you wait. I was excited to see that it is further along in the pipeline that traditionally one would think. A tentive May/June of next year is exciting.

Darkhour717 has been doing some pretty good mining videos, I would recommend checking them out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cUuIhjLqsE

[opaque nova]

What happens when you have a refinery order with more in it than you have cargo space available?

Can you take a part of it or is anything over the cargo space lost?

[hollow sedge]

I think the excess is lost.

I've just done my first ROC mining run. It was 50% full of Hadanite, I made 98k when I sold it at Everest Harbor.
Is that normal?

[north oyster]

Nothing is lost, the cargo just will not be loaded from the refinery job. If it doesn't fit, it doesn't ship

[north oyster]

A full ROC is about 220K aUEC (give or take a few)

[opaque nova]

Ah, ok so I should ship my current load out first then

[north oyster]

You can also sell it at outpost on the surface

Yes, go sell what you are able to carry and come back for the rest. There is no limits (at the time) for refinery jobs. So if you have just a Cutlass Black and about 8 jobs ... it might be 8 trips to sell it all off

[opaque nova]

Ah, cool

Hopefully Cargo v0 will let us rent a hangar to store it then to make sure we can fully load a ship

[north oyster]

One Prospector load is about 32 aUEC, so if it is Quantainium that will be about 275K aUEC per trip with the cutty

[candid river]

Does ye olde Lancet + Surge setup still work for Quant mining in the new patch?

[north oyster]

works for me. I did a large asteroid and ended up with a full Prospector with 32 SCU of Quan in the run. Sold at TDD For 275K aUEC

[candid river]

That's good to know. I'm doing cargo runs to purchase a prospector at the moment, I'm skipping the whole "rent a prospector" thing since that turned out mega-fruitless last time

Tried out a few ships with your generous donation and at IAE and settled on a Connie

[true portal]

first time miner, renting a prospector. I think that means I can't swap out drill heads. What sort of rocks am I looking for that the base model drill will work on? On moon surfaces or in orbit?

[candid river]

You're in kinda the same trap I was in; use the rental to get to grips with how mining works. If you have something else you can do that's wildly profitable use that and then just buy one. With the rental, you're looking at medium-high tier stuff, minerals like Taranite and Laranite in smaller rocks. I used this guide made for 3.12 which still seemed to be fairly accreate: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/kcgduz/star_citizen_mining_quick_reference_pdf_for_312/

You can more or less forget about Quant mining; Even if you find a very lucky rock in Aaron's Halo and have the patience of a saint it's just not worth it from a profit/time perspective vs just more often running loads

[true portal]

Thank you! My only ship I "own" (with real money) is a multi-crew that doesn't map well to profit. I'll try this and see if I can work up gradually w/ *ite rocks

[granite lichen]

Hi, got kind of a noob question but how much time does it take for a landing place to refill its commodity inventory?

on SC trade tools it's stated something like 1000/min but i dont know if its every 5, 10...

[candid river]

If it has enough SCU you might try refining for funsies; I found it to be of medium value with small quantities of medium-worth stuff but it's a welcome switch-up from the monotony. Make sure you don't put in work orders that'll yield more than you can put on your ship SCU-wise; you cannot pick up a partial load. Also with these kind of loads you want the long duration high yield process.

[true portal]

it's a Carrack, so that might be freakin' ideal. Is there a guide to refining? I haven't tried that yet either

[candid river]

There's not a lot to it; use the process that suits you best (I can't remember the names atm but you can look them up on the interwebs or just play with the console) and then pick up a big haul sometime, pray to the 30k gods and take it to the TDD of the nearest planet. I'm sure there's plenty of stuff on YouTube, I don't have something particular to recommend

Someone might have more detailed advice; I'm not the minmaxing kind of guy but this is just what I found from playing around with it

[true portal]

Sure, no worries. I'm not afraid to do some digging. I appreciate the guidance you already gave. Could be a game changer

[dim igloo]

Are the trading kiosks fixed

or are they still

[candid river]

Is there a specific issue they're supposed to have? I did some Distilled Spirits and it worked alright

[thin escarp]

@opaque nova idk if someone answered. but you cannot put more than what can fit in your cargo

you'll need a bigger cargo ship

[royal spear]

For selling refined ore do I just take it to a city?

[north oyster]

just don't try to trade in scrap, it's totally busted

[north oyster]

Yes, to the TDD or CBD

[royal spear]

So trying to figure this out, it seems that you can't refine certain ores from your haul and then just sell off the rest without refining as it warns you that the rest will be thrown out?

Is that right? If so, that is a shit system

[thin escarp]

its refine or sell

[hallow bison]

u guys know if u can get ships out at the mining facilities?

[royal spear]

You mean on planet surface?

[hallow bison]

yep

[royal spear]

No, you can get land vehicles out though

[hallow bison]

damn shame

[royal spear]

why?

[hallow bison]

was hoping to get a small ship out to have in my c2 in case i got attacked

[gritty solar]

any1 wanna join my mole.. 30% off all proffits

[dawn drift]

@gritty solar is that offer still available?

[gritty solar]

no.. going offline in 10

[dawn drift]

Darn

[minor moon]

Quick Q, what is a good item to trade in atm? Scrap used to be reliable for a full hold and a somewhat ok profit but that's gone now

[crimson oak]

kinda depends on the time of day, i find titanium pretty reliable though

[hallow bison]

Anyone able to point me in the direction of the trading terminal at port tresslar

please?

[amber terrace]

all Admin's trade terminals are in Galleria

obviously don't go into Food Court, just look around there are shops and admin office

[delicate girder]

What does the admin trade terminal work for these days? In 3.15, it seems more confusing as to when you're supposed to trade at admin and when you're supposed to trade at TDDs. Lately most of my trading has worked better at TDDs (in cities of course).

[amber terrace]

they buy most commodities that are showing in "prices info journal" and also buy ROC gems

i think main trading routes always were meant for TDDs except for Port Olisar

since PO existed for so long without there being TDD on Crusader

[delicate girder]

I hear PO is kinda broken for trading now, but I can't remember the specifics.

[amber terrace]

yes because they want you to trade in cities, PO is due to rework too so won't get much love now

after cargo & trading is refactored these ports are supposed to take cargo from biggest trading ships that can't land on planets. You will probably get missions for smaller ships that will then transfer that cargo from orbit to city.

[delicate girder]

They should take the existing PO and have pirates "Steal it" and transport it to Piro!!!!!

[amber terrace]

haha

[delicate girder]

It would be some great lore!

[amber terrace]

yes, anyway i will miss this old layout

[delicate girder]

That's why they should do it. Lot's of players like it and it would be quite a draw I think.

[subtle cradle]

PO is busted for me 20% of the time I go there it's completely or partially missing

[delicate girder]

Partially missing is perfect for Pyro.

[amber terrace]

this Pyro idea is better than I thought

[next tree]

How does mining actually work? (I'm new to the game, started a few days ago)

I rented a prospector, quantum to the moons of ArcCorp (like Lyria and Wala) rocks aren't as dense as in videos but that's alright. I try to mine a rock and it either won't break or it goes into the pink zone and blasts my ship alongside with it.

Also I can't find any Quantanium.

Sorry if I sound whiny, just really annoyed that I wasted the past hour trying to figure this out from youtube vids and horribly failing.

[subtle cradle]

@next tree with a rented prospector you probably wanna mine other stuff than quantanium, since the laser isn't powerful or stable enough. You can mine Borase or Bexalite. I've had some luck at HUR L2 and CRU L1

[next tree]

are there refineries nearby with rentable cutlasses?

I kinda started on ARC L1 since a video said it was good place to start

[subtle cradle]

CRU L1 has a refinery with a rental terminal and I think HUR L2 does as well

Maybe ARC L1 is good, I don't know. I just know you wanna get a hang of the game before starting on quantanium. Just start mining borase and anything else more profitable and learn how to fly, mine, land, refine and haul to sell before thinking about Quan.. imagine losing that 275,000 aUEC because you forget to take gravity into account when landing at a planetary city

Or making other newbie mistakes (which we've all done)

[next tree]

My home system is new babbage so I think planetary landing is somewhat fine

Although I'm not sure how a cutlass handles

as flying the prospector already feels like i'm sliding on ice

[subtle cradle]

The cutlass handles better dw

[next tree]

If worse comes, I guess ill go back doing illegal monitor missions

haha

[worthy scroll]

Ha. Yeah the Prospector isn't exactly a high performance vehicle.

[true portal]

how does one dump inert materials?

[worthy scroll]

You don't. Yet.

There are modules you can put on your mining head that make it so that you pick up less inert materials when you're vacuuming.

Basically what you do is only crack and suck up high percentage rocks.

[true portal]

does it clear out inert materials when I turn stuff into the refinery?

or does it just stay in ship inv forever

[worthy scroll]

You'll get rid of it at the refinery.

[true portal]

cool ty!

[fresh ivy]

If I want to mine asteroids, where do I find mineable ones?

[subtle cradle]

CRU L1

[fresh ivy]

Cool, will look there

and if I'm in a prospector with a Helix 1 head and the charge level of a rock isn't moving even at 100% intensity

just not mineable with a prospector?

[subtle cradle]

I think the Lancet is the most powerful mininghead. What rock were you trying to mine?

[fresh ivy]

just a rock I found on MT

gneiss deposit, has some agricium

[subtle cradle]

Planetary rocks are sometimes too big to mine with a single mining laser. They're meant for a Mole to mine. You should probably stick to asteroid belts with a prospector. I mine up to 49% quantanium rocks with 5122 mass. But it takes a long time and the lancet mining laser probably can't mine anything bigger than that

[fresh ivy]

Are there any asteroid belts near microtech?

[subtle cradle]

Go Yela asteroid belt, but with a Lancet mining head

[shadow moth]

hey im a trading terminal trying to sell my cargo but its not showing my ship in the drop down menu.. somehow its showing the location im at

[thin escarp]

@next tree i can show you the way of mining.

@fresh ivy you find asteroids at hur l3 and cru l3

in spae

space

pretty lit areas

for quant. if you wanna find other stuff. i'd go moonbound to like yela. or daymar.

aberdeen is ok

i can send you a mining guide my org has made for 3.15

has tips tricks. where toos how toos.

[north oyster]

I would recommend you join up with @thin escarp and learn mining. They have the system down pat and you will earn good pay. He can also tell you how to modify the rental Prospector.

[thin escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sir-yes-boss-military-salute-giving-honor-rip-gif-23161689

[normal egret]

Just warped thru a plant on quantum jump with a full load on our Argo Raft. OOOOOOOF.

[delicate girder]

Bet that plant was even attached to a planet. 😉

[woeful moss]

I'll take that guide if you don't mind 😊

Only thing I need to figure out is how to fly through Aaron and find something. It's either unscannable rocks, non quant or 2% quant 5000 mass rocks

[dim dew]

whats the easy way to manage power for mining, any pc accessory's?

[woeful moss]

that might work. my vkb gladi nxt has sliders I can use too

and they are smooth

there is also that app game glass i think

[worthy scroll]

I use a throttle for that. Sticks for flying, TWCS throttle for my mining controller/button box. But I guess a rotary encoder would work. If you use m/k and were in the market for a new keyboard, something like the GMMK Pro has one on it.

[worthy scroll]

Whelp. Crouching down steps isn't a fix for the steps killing you.

They'll still get ya.

Crouching 😦

[lethal perch]

Do random NPCs come to blow you up when mining? in Space

[worthy scroll]

Well dang, dying broke that box mission. I think it was because one was already in the ship, and that ship became "not mine" after dying.

[lyric nest]

It does make you sound like your gonna steal someone’s ship

[worthy scroll]

Ooh no, it fixed it. I threw the other box on the ground and it became viable again.

[lyric nest]

Is the raft elevator fixed?

[dim dew]

thnaks

[carmine quartz]

not really

[lyric nest]

Ffs

[carmine quartz]

it sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t

it usually works tho

[tired peak]

How is ROC mining nowadays?

[worthy scroll]

ROCCY.

[tired peak]

So it is worthwhile?

[woeful bloom]

So I am farming bounties until I can afford a prospector and a cargo ship to haul refines. Any recommendation on a cargo ship for that task? Maybe one I can also use for trading.

[sudden dawn]

freelancer max is a good one.

for larger hauls caterpillar is fun as well

[tired peak]

Or the Constellation Taurus. Good firepower too.

[woeful bloom]

Do I need firepower for hauling?

[tired peak]

Pirates

[woeful bloom]

Player or NPC?

Because if it's player, I assume they are in groups and I'd have no chance anyways.

[tired peak]

Sometimes npc. I had a mantis disabling my QT and another npc buggin me

[scarlet rover]

Are there hauling missions? So far I've just tried to use SC Trader to find trading posts

[woeful bloom]

Do they bother a player when mining too or just trading?

[tired peak]

I was leaving the planet with my Prospector so yes. But it is random.

[silk quiver]

Guys, can we still sell mining stuff at New Babbage?

All YT vids show some terminals but they arent there when i go there

[thin escarp]

@silk quiver sell at area 18

NB is sus for refined goods rn

@woeful bloom ive been attacked by npc's more often in space than on moons

[silk quiver]

ok ty

[thin escarp]

yw

[rich orchid]

Anyone whna mine in the rock with me?

[hollow sedge]

whats the best laser for the prospector anequipment

[verbal cargo]

Lancet

[spiral birch]

Good evening to all! I send this message to ask if mining with prospector without refining is still profitable? Because I don't have any transport ships that can accommodate the refined ores...
Thanks and see you in the verse!

[hollow sedge]

Wher can I get the lancet

[humble cedar]

Hi Folks, today I crashed with my prospector. I claimed it. When trying to mine, the mining head comes out but not possible to start it. It seems there is no head on it. I bought one, I find it in my inventory, but not possible to equip my ship. An idea ?

[main saddle]

Did you buy the size 1?

[spiral birch]

Good evening to all! I send this message to ask if mining with prospector without refining is still profitable? Because I don't have any transport ships that can accommodate the refined ores...
Thanks and see you in the verse!

[hollow sedge]

With the right ore yea but it's still better to rifine it

What modules are the best for mining

[cloud root]

What's the general consensus on the flight model of the Caterpillar?

It feels extraordinarily heavy compared to the bigger C2

[true portal]

flies in much the same way a brick does

erkul.games shows lancet as the lowest pwr/s, but it's regarded as the best. Helix is highest pwr/s. That's kinda confusing.

Why is lowest considered best?

[cloud root]

It's weird

Hope they have a look at it when it comes around. The mass and size is less than the C2 yet it flies like a Turd

Oh well! Still love the design! Drake fan here <+

[true portal]

can't deny its functionality. It's just very no frills, which has its own appeal too

[cloud root]

Yeah. But the flight model of it is abhorrent compared to what we've got after the car release

To some degree I understand it, but with the no frills and generally weaker hulls that drake is supposed to have (don't quote me), having less manoeuvrability than the "competitors" does not make sense at all.

Same movement, less hull armor and more guns seems to be the direction.

But what do I know! A singular Drake fan, haha.

[true portal]

Cutlass Black used to be maneuverable until it got nerfed hard

can't say I'm a fan of the direction they're taking it

[pliant matrix]

From what I heard crusaders are developing a very good thruster and engine system that makes their ships more manoeuvrable.
Ares also flies as good as a medium ship when being an heavy.

[true portal]

Carrack is shockingly nimble

600i is 1/4 the size and flies like a brick by comparison

flight models are all over the map it seems

[pliant matrix]

Also cat is an "old" ship kinda when Hercules series are brand new. Price aren't the same either. Dunno if it matters tbh but you get what you paid for

[cloud root]

You get what you paid for t the moment, yes. As it is an alpha :)

[royal spear]

That surprising nimbleness can be deadly to any crew trying to move around the decks. Found that one out the hard way...

[cloud root]

Such disparity seems really weird as things are standing at the moment, but I'm sure I get what you're saying.

[true portal]

Bahahaha. I hadn't thought of that...

[royal spear]

I'm just saddened by the number of ships that are unavailable to purchase atm. The Cat being an example.. 😦

[cloud root]

I love the cat but it flies like a transport ship filled with the heaviest material known to man.

I will never trade it though. Absolutely in love with the design and idea.

Have a cat, cutlass and a fighter I love.

[royal spear]

I hauled a lot in eve and the cat just ticks all my boxes

[cloud root]

Yeah it's nice. Throw me a message if you want to pilot the cat one day :) I'd happily follow you with one of my other ships