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rocky veldt
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now this must be one heck of an operation

thin escarp
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and we'll have 4-7 moles out a time so

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its $$$$

rocky veldt
thin escarp
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mole is a 4 person mining ship

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capable of breaking bigger rocks and more space

rocky veldt
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you must be extremely rich right now

thin escarp
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i have around 9 million with 7 million brewing in my refinery still

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i bought some ships and kitted out a bunch so i'm a lil low.

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before 3.15 hit i was a billionaire. but i gave 800 million away in the last week before the patch

rocky veldt
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welp that's called extreme dedication

still valley
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Good testing.

thin escarp
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so yeah xenos if you want in shoot me a dm ๐Ÿ˜„ craft you can too. we always need more scouts, laser operators, pilots etc

delicate girder
delicate girder
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I think she'll look really good with one! It'll give her a German quality!

rocky veldt
still valley
thin escarp
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@gray remnant still available?

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bout to load the mole up now

subtle cradle
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Yes I spend around 2.5 hours making only 50k mining hadanite. I found a massive cluster, but on a hill.
Combine that with the terrible extractor beam on the roc and I had to collect the gems from all over the place.

gray remnant
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yea i can log in was trying to setup my hotas but im getting some errors

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@thin escarp

thin escarp
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@gray remnant all good

oblique stone
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How to join the group

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?

crimson oak
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Anyone know what the deal is with scanning gems when roc mining? It will do the scan and give you info like mass etc but never tell you the type of gem it is?

north oyster
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Park your ship at the space station, shuttle down to the port. Same common area, sell the cargo at the TDD. No risk

faint tinsel
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Any good place to sell gems near hurston?

oblique stone
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where to find mining groups to join?

north oyster
north oyster
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Maybe the most active currently and they train and pay

thin escarp
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^

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this is true.

oblique stone
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What should I do :))

ripe thorn
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How do I attach my new mining lazar to my prospector?

blissful rain
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lies

thin escarp
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@north oyster tell him

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LOL

raw shell
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the MOLE is totally FUBAR

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at least for surface solo mining. Nearly unplayable.

crimson oak
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it aint supposed to be a solo ship

raw shell
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ok well playable as a multicrew but really fcking annoying

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and even then, the extractor failing to work half the time makes that even borderline

delicate girder
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It's been since 3.13 and early 3.14 since I've mined. I forget how much a Prospector's full and refined load of quant can be worth max. How much can that perfect load be worth? I think I've lucked out and got a pure load maybe three times at most.

raw shell
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it depends on the refining method you use for that load but assuming the best I'm thinking around 250-300k? I'm guessing.. usually take in multiple loads at a time

delicate girder
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Yeah, that sounds right.

raw shell
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and if the MOLE was working correctly, whether you're flying it solo or with a crew is irrelevant. Damn thing is broke.

delicate girder
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I hear that a pure load is a lot harder in 3.15 given that the 40% quant roids we were seeing in 3.13 are a thing of the past.

raw shell
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I just had a 39% one, but unfortunately the extractor failed. I don't think I've seen a 40+ this patch

delicate girder
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Add to that the fact that mining is going to get a completely new batch of bugs added in 3.16 with the new mining tools.

raw shell
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no doubt

delicate girder
raw shell
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yeah I was wishing I was in the prospector for this. Which sucks, Mole was by far my favorite ship before this patch

delicate girder
marble crater
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seen quite a few 45%+ Quant rocks in 3.15

delicate girder
marble crater
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not as common as in 3.14 though and still finding plenty of unscannable rocks

delicate girder
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Does the parallax search technique still work?

marble crater
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doesn't work for me

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can't see any tiny specks when trying that now

raw shell
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The mining graphics in the turret is really messed up now. In addition to the new 'glitchy planet interference' graphics, the turret jumps all over the place. At times you are actually crashing into the ground like the ship just lost power, then it snaps back to normal. You don't actually hit the ground but it's jarring as hell. Also the jumping around affects the laser affect

delicate girder
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The parallax method worked for me in 3.14. Did something change?

marble crater
raw shell
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climbing up the ladder from the turret is messed up. You slide down the first to third time you try to climb it

crimson oak
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nothing different gains wise this patch

brave mist
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best material to do cargo runs

delicate girder
crimson oak
marble crater
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yeah I thought that technique was great myself & added another layer of depth to finding rocks

crystal quartz
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Man I been trying to find an Argo Mole Carbon, anyone have one for sale XD?

marble crater
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So does anyone know if the Freelancer MIS (missile boat version) can fit a ROC vehicle? hard to find this info

delicate girder
raw shell
delicate girder
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The big big problem with using a MIS (even if the ROC fits) for ROC mining would be the thrusters suck for hovering! Last time I tried a MIS that is.

marble crater
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yeah was hoping to have an all rounder mission ship and the Freelancer MIS almost seems perfect to be able to jump between Group ERT's, ground missions and a bit of ROC mining. oh well. will keep to specialized ships I guess

delicate girder
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Nomad, Cuttie, Connie, MSR

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Valk

raw shell
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valk was my favorite... plenty of room

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cutty works fine though.. just derps out occassionaly

marble crater
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I already have a Connie was looking for something a little smaller. Also Cutty Black was my pledge ship for 2 patches so didn't want to use it again

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I'll just grab a Freelancer Max for some vehicle /ground mission play & keep using combat ships for group ert's

delicate girder
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Cutty is a little to frajile and the angle of entry is a bit too steep to be optimal for ROC.

crimson oak
delicate girder
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I find keeping the MAX in the air is like skipping a brick on water.

raw shell
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ok whatever, bottom line is we're in agreement. The mole sucks.

delicate girder
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Unless you are wanting have friends in the same space, it's better to take out multiple Prospectors in my opinion.

raw shell
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max will be my next cargo ship

delicate girder
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I like the Connie for a battle party boat and cargo combo instead of the MAX!

raw shell
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oh I just wanted the mole for the cargo.. when you do find that group of rocks with a couple good %, nice to not leave any rock behind... well.. assuming the extractor works of course.

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well the max is 2mil.. the connies are 3.5mil and up

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and they only hold 96 scu.. the max holds 120

delicate girder
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Then again, IF you go out with more than one Prospector one Prospector can hold the place while one goes back to market!

raw shell
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yeah.. you need friends for that.. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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<-- has no friends

delicate girder
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Yep, using the Mole single is a bit bananas. I can't get used to it. I don't thing I'll every be good enough to fill a mole with quant and not explode in the process.

raw shell
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once this rental expires I'm back to the prospector. My first priority was to get a MOLE but not after flying this thing.

woeful bloom
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Where and how do I sell gems I have mined? I am watching a tut from 3.14 but everything looks different. I can't figure out how to store the gems in a crate like the tut shows.

bright star
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That doesn't work in 3.15 any longer.

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Instead, you use backpacks to store them.

woeful bloom
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ok, I have the gems in my backpack

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Sell at a refinery?

vestal fox
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does anyone know if the prospector is available to rent atm? if so where might that be?

bright star
woeful bloom
bright star
bright star
vestal fox
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refinery deck of any station? @bright star

bright star
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Yes. Any station which has refinery deck.

vestal fox
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thanks, ill go check now

bright star
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That would be stations like HUR-L1, L2, CRU-L1, etc.

woeful bloom
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oh, nvm

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oh my, not worth as much as I had hoped, yikes. Maybe go back to delivery missions.

raw shell
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you can mine all of the ores on that list, and it shows you how much you can get refined and unrefined per unit

marble crater
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hmm so this worked for me in 3.15 ymmv. try putting your rented Prospector into a claim state, then claim it & log out. wait out the timer in the menu. when you log in you can sometimes get full access to customising the loadout as if you owned it. mined my first $2m that way

marble crater
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just tried it on my rented Freelancer & still works

stone atlas
marble crater
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no just let's you edit the loadout. the timer continues

delicate girder
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The rental timer keeps going in the background when you use the glitch @marble crater mentioned, but it does let you make the miner much more useful. Before you do it make a note as to when you prospector rental is going to expire so you don't lose a good quant load due to bad timing. If the rental has expired when you arrive to refine your load, you just lost that load.

frozen helm
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I can safely log off while refining, or leave and return for the refined materials?

delicate girder
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yes to both

frozen helm
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thank you

delicate girder
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np

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Is the consensus that ROC mining isn't worth the time in 3.15.1? Seems that way to me.

marble crater
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took me 2.5 hours to fill up was pretty bad

viral orbit
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Grim Hex is full on WiDOW so now I can't sell, I cri

subtle gazelle
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ROC mining isnt terrible right now

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the collection bug is annoying and it gets confused about what mode its in

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but it never gets unplayable like bounties on a bad server or death winds at trading outposts

hallow swallow
subtle gazelle
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the orbit bug just makes it slow, but if it fails to keep putting them in the roc even if they orbit i cycle all power and turn mine mode off and on, swap mode, turn off and on again

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that goes for when it thinks its in collect mode bu tits in fracture and vice versa

hallow swallow
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cycle all power? Meaning you shut down everything?

subtle gazelle
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yep

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p on the ROC

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then mining mode off and on

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then on, swap modes, turn off then on

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been more playable than ship mining for me because ship scanning is busted

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on surface

hallow swallow
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yeah the ship mining problem really makes it less efficient

subtle gazelle
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seems like every gameplay loop right now has critical issues

hallow swallow
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with info missing it's difficult to determine if a scan ping is worth investigating or not.

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i'll try out your suggestions for ROC mining.

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i know alot of people having issues with bounties, but I rarely do. i've earned 1 mill since 3.15 went live only on bounties. I want to be able to do other things. Picked up mining in 3.14 and quite enjoyed the gameplay loop.

subtle gazelle
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Bh works when theres low pop

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yeah mining is fun

worthy scroll
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Think my clients will care that I'm carrying their boxes by the can, or should I just not tell them...

subtle cradle
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Where's the best place to mine with a rented prospector now? Bexalite, laranite, borasse don't really care, as long as I can actually find something. Hur L5 and L2 hasn't been too great

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With a rented prospector with the stock mining head mind you

viral orbit
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I still have like 190 units of WiDoW i need to sell but Grim Hex doesn't wanna take it

coarse cape
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be patient

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it buys really slow lol

smoky gust
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Is C2's shield good enough to withstand harassment from light fighters before QT away?

north oyster
smoky gust
north oyster
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Armor isn't implemented in the game yet, so it really makes no difference at this time. I have the C2 and it has withstood being peppered (even by an M2) several times with no issues

round quest
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replacing the pilot guns with size 5 laser cannons makes it slap pve bounties too

smoky gust
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As i am kind of conflicted if want to get a C2 straight for easy cargo runs or separate my current credits into a taurus and prospector

north oyster
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Laranite isn't ever coming back like the old days, but you will be able to supplement it with other loads. I would recommend checking out Jack Axton's Trade refresher course for great trade info.

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When you land at outpost, only kill the engines ("i") and leave the ship running with shields up.

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With good trade happening, you will be able to afford a Prospector pretty soon in-game

north oyster
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You can also team up with @thin escarp and his mining team. They have an excellent system going where you can earn good coin while learning the in's and out's of mining.

thin escarp
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o7

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@smoky gust

plush coral
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my rental expired for my prospecter but i can still use it? is it a bug or a feature

rough oar
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Oh, hey ive got a question. I've got a cargo bay inside of a C2 thats pretty full, It wont let me sell any of it however. This occured after logging back into the game after having logged out in my ship bed

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am I going to end up losing this haul?

warm moss
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Try not to blow it up, or lose it because you might not be able to claim it

warm moss
polar flame
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man ... running boxes is now more deadly than doing ERTs! SHEESH

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I have died so many times just walking slowly ... I now have PTSD... oh and the boxes despawn

devout thistle
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Do they have FPS combat?

polar flame
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yep. The FPS part is easy.

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Its the dying randomly while walking back to the ship to get the 2nd or third box to drop them off is whats getting me

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then the boxes being despawned off my ship after i race back is madening

blissful geode
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Anyone have any advice for places to go hand mining?

thin escarp
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@blissful geode aberdeen caves

blissful geode
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Ty!

blissful geode
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Is there a secret to finding caves? (specifically on Aberdeen) (and aside from investigate missions)

thin escarp
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@blissful geode search mission

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look for scientist is usually ina cave

buoyant willow
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Hey @thin escarp, I saw mention of your mining group, I have done some mining before the wipe but am working my way back up to a prospector, would there still be a spot for someone building back up to that or should I hit you guys up once I rebuy it?

thin escarp
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always have room for lasers, scouts, security!

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@buoyant willow

subtle cradle
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Better report to Management

magic shard
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Ok, I have only ROC mined so far, but I would like to try out the real mining. I am planning to rent out a MOLE and go mining with two persons. What should I know? Is it possible to switch stock components on a rented ship?

subtle cradle
marble crater
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you can rent a Mole now?

hollow sedge
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As part of the IAE you can.

hollow sedge
hollow sedge
split crest
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posted in #star-citizen but ill ask here as well

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gonna go to central trade district and try there

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but i'd like to know for future as to why I can't sell here

hollow sedge
# split crest gonna go to central trade district and try there

It's a known bug. Ships aren't showing up at independent outposts.
There is a warning on SC Trade Tools.
Named ones such as ArcCorp/HDMS ones work. Although you run the risk of dying on the stairs. You'll be okay at Central trade and some Admins depending on whether they accept your goods.

split crest
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right

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thanks

magic shard
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So how difficult will be mining with rented Mole? Is it decently profitable at all?

magic shard
north oyster
north oyster
raw shell
paper forge
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is it me or mining scanner from pilot doesnt work properly and show only part of rock composition

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?

verbal cargo
rocky veldt
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i think ive found a good way of farming gems

Asteroids mining
look for asteroids turn around them and look for gem minerals

tropic shuttle
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@verbal cargo yo buddy what are you getting into?

verbal cargo
tawny leaf
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i'm sure you folks get this a lot, but which trade tool is more accurate/up-to-date? sc-trade.tools or gallog.co?

raw shell
cedar flower
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IAE made my wallet cry a bit
But I now have all ships I want ๐Ÿ˜„

(dark coloured ships are loaners until the actual ship is added)

left fox
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what exactly is "Science" gameplay going to be?

cedar flower
# storm patio tf how rich are you xD

I spend more in other games

my monthly videogame budged is 100-200 โ‚ฌ
I saved up for this years IAE and now that I got all ships I wanted I likely wont spend more on SC

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also the MPUV and dragonfly both where free

worthy scroll
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Dang, I probably don't spend that much in a year.

gentle spade
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Is there any way to sell scrap at the moment? I have a full C2 of it and would like my money and cargo hold back...

mystic mortar
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Can I only sell refined ores on Business districts?

tired sapphire
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May somebody please fully explain to me how percentages work in mining? I see people saying "oh, this one is above 26%, it's very good". I don't understand what's it for, where you see it, and how it works

devout thistle
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Mm, rock have BIG percent of quantanium, lets say 97%, and you find a rock with 4500 mass, means 97 percent of that mass is quant

cinder osprey
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Where do I buy mining equipment? I'm in the refinery at CRU L1 and the terminal doesn't exist to buy lasers/usables

verbal cargo
cinder osprey
verbal cargo
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In those terminals at cru l1

cinder osprey
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That's actually stupid

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I found it

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Can you not switch parts for ships you rent anymore?

thin escarp
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@split crest if you have a backpack on with stuff in it

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its a known bug that ships dont show up in terminals

cinder osprey
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Anyone here know about the supposed bug where you can modify rented ships?

cinder osprey
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What/how can I mine with the rented (uneditable) Prospector to earn money?

still valley
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What the hell is going on with this UI KekHands

burnt burrow
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Anybody know if the Argo Raft can use its docking collar yet?

still valley
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No

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Ship-to-ship docking isn't in

lilac hedge
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So, interesting thing came up on spectrum. 32 scu container's probably won't be able to be loaded or unloaded. They don't hold 32 1xscu worth of cargo, they themselves are 32 scu. Which probably means that when we bring up commodities, we'll be able to do so in 1 or 32 scu formats.

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Maybe we can even combine commodities into 1 32 scu container

hollow sedge
hollow sedge
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Anyone know where I can buy the cold version of the Pembroke suit?

north oyster
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No the ROC mining is screwed, very low return of profit for the time required

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Novikav was normally at the station above New Babbage

hollow sedge
viral orbit
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What commodity is best for quick selling good money

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Cuz WiDoW isn't selling fast at all lol

still valley
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TL:DR; we don't know because prices change in real-time.

north oyster
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No gear at NB to speak of. Port Tressler will have the suit

ruby salmon
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Where can you buy a Stampede Module ?

still valley
still valley
ruby salmon
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yeah that website lies

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it says its at arc 1 but i cannot find it

still valley
ruby salmon
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i checked

north oyster
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And you have to scroll, the terminal is messed up

ruby salmon
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unless its bugged hehind glass

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behind*

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the only terminal in there is for armor /clothes

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unless i am blind

hollow sedge
north oyster
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Ah, Roger

viral orbit
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Looks like Laranite is the safest but not the most profitable

north oyster
viral orbit
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Gotcha, ty!

still valley
north oyster
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Jack is one of the best on trade

ruby salmon
still valley
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Who's Jack

raw shell
ruby salmon
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thanks

gilded basalt
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any advice for Roc mining ?? low key hard finding minables with the roc

subtle gazelle
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go upstairs

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its not in the shop area theres a little admin area up the stairs before you go in that room

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to the left

still valley
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If anyone has location recommendations for rented (stock) prospector mining for Bexalite, Taranite, Laranite and Borase I'd appreciate it. Reply to this message.

pallid pumice
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anyone know if there's a way to aim the prospector arm without aiming the whole ship? is this it or am I doing things wrong?

hollow sedge
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Whats a good region to do prospector mining?

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I havent really done any mining before

earnest ridge
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I have the same question...where is the best place to mine high value Ore with Stock Prospector rented.

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@hollow sedge when you recovered your trading ship...were you able to sell? I ask because this happened to me yesterday in a Hercules. I died getting back in on elevator. Went back in a different ship...jumped into the Hercules. Went to New Babbage, stored ship and went to terminal to sell...nothing showed. Now, I did claim another Hercules before I recovered the old one. Is this the reason I couldn't sell?

fickle scaffold
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Where is the best place to mine with the rental prospector? It cant equip the lancet so quantainium is hard

rocky jacinth
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Hey guys, I kinda tried scrolling up to find an answer on this, but I'm trying to do trade and naturally running into the independent outpost bug where my ship isn't appearing. It was mentioned that "named" outposts tend to work correctly but I'm not entirely certain what's considered named, as I attempted to use Area 54(?) on MicroTech as a trade spot but ran into the bug there as well.

I assumed named referred to something that just didn't have a generic name of random number outpost but is there something more to that? I just wanna run smol cargo around doge

floral notch
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is this the refinery deck store in hur-L1?

fickle scaffold
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Looks like the one at ARC-L1 at least

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second floor is for refining, first floor is shop

floral notch
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on the wiki it says i can buy a lancet here

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on the wall the three heads are not lancet

fickle scaffold
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Go to the terminal, hover the top tabs and scroll your scrollerwheel

floral notch
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the two terminals in here are clothing and rental equipment

fickle scaffold
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the clothing one

floral notch
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i did not know you can scroll wheel for the tabs

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this is news to me

fickle scaffold
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yeah, I think they added some new categories and messed the UI up

floral notch
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thank you

thin escarp
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@ruby salmon you gotta scroll when lookin at the terminal tabs

ripe thorn
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DPS calculator says I can buy the Lancet MH1 at Lorville Tammany and sons. but that mining supplies menu list is not here. why is that?

floral notch
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try scrolling at the top where the tabs are

ripe thorn
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wow. such an annoying bug that can be solved in seconds by a skilled dev

floral notch
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yea was confused for a long time as well

hollow sedge
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7 hours to refine a single prospector load....

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Ouch

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Thats with the Ferron Exchange method

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Seems to be best according to wiki

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How do you guys go about transporting refined materials? That one load will be around 30SCU and prospector only has around 12SCU. So it would take me three trips

paper forge
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Just wondering, will Odyssey be able to refine all collected ores, or only quantainium

covert panther
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Coming in to land at Lorville, and my Mole (that I rented) literally fell out of the sky. Is that a thing?

floral fulcrum
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where can i sell raw ore at hurston

hollow sedge
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Appaently you cant log out in Prospector bed

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Which kinda makes me wonder why it even has a bed

brisk loom
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Any way to offload the scrap im stuck with on my Cat?

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or do i have to destroy my Caterpillar worth of $110k scrap

subtle cradle
novel ore
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is the prospector hud still all scrambeled?

frozen locust
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thiking of getting the hull A as a good cargo starter

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cargo starter atleast

raw shell
novel ore
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ahh gotcha, ty @raw shell

hollow sedge
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Does the bed not work on the prospector? I wanted to log out but only option was to get up

rose root
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Hey guys where's the best place on Yela to summon a roc?

frozen locust
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what freelancer is best for cargo?

coarse cape
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max

amber rover
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anyone now how i can check how many charges i have left on my mining consumables?

north oyster
# still valley Who's Jack

Jack Axton, has done "State of Trade" since trade came to the 'verse. He has a YT channel and he also streams. Here's his refresher course for trade that will help those who wish to get a good idea of what is out there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxTYWawbvM

EDIT: There is a mistake on the Astatine table for the MSR. The proper values should be Buy in: 79,800, Profit: 22,800, Profit Per Hour: 68,400. I had an incorrect decimal throwing off values and I apologize for the confusion.

With 3.15 on the horizon, here is an overview of how 30K protection works and a refresher course on trade commodities a...

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north oyster
amber rover
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thank you so much

bleak edge
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Yo! I just started playing again and spent my 25k + 30k donation from friend on renting a prospector. But its so hard to find stones that the default laser can mine. Is there any other moon/place where i can find smaller rocks?

amber rover
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how big are the rocks you are trying to break?

bleak edge
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I can mine like 4-5k mass

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Wait cant i sell ore on olisar any more?

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I cant find my agricium on the menuu

wet gate
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Sometimes it takes a moment for the ship to show up.

bleak edge
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Do i need to refine it first?

wet gate
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You Don't have to, but if you're trying to just dump off materials you need to hit up CRU L1

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It's 2 mil from PO

night vortex
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How does one bring more than one surge module with them for mining? As in the consumable sub modules of the mining laser

frozen locust
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he freelancer better then the titan cargo wise atleast?

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is*

worthy scroll
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Yes

bleak edge
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Im doing trading atm, Selling slam at cru-l5 but i could only sell a bit. Still alot in my cutlass

cinder osprey
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Why is every single minable rock broken...

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I think less than 10% of the asteroids I've found actually are scannable real asteroids

hollow sedge
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What is the best mining head and modules for Quantum Mining with a Prospector

cinder osprey
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Lancet, don't remember the modules

hollow sedge
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Yea i have the lancet

cinder osprey
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I know people use Lifeline

hollow sedge
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Earlier I was mining Quantum and it was breaking pretty easily butt now I couldnt even break a 5000 11%

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Then I look bottom left and see 3 modules and one is offline

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giving me de-buffs i guess? and the other some de-buffs and some buffs but mostly bad ones

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I have Surge and Optimum module @cinder osprey

cinder osprey
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Yeah those are good

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and I think like brandt or something else, don't remember the name

hollow sedge
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Do you want to fill all your slots?

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or only use one

cinder osprey
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all

hollow sedge
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@cinder osprey WAIT

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Do you select diff modules WHILE your mining

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for different things

cinder osprey
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you can equip 3 different ones

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and just use them as you want?

hollow sedge
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Whenever I google something I see people saying use this for this, and this module for that and they say it like you select the module for a certaint thing

cinder osprey
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I mean

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If you're using a Prospector to mine anything but Quantainium for the purpose of making money you're doing it wrong in the first place

hollow sedge
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No I am doing quant

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What I mean is they said it like you use this module for the main mine then switch when your in the green or something

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nvm

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it just sounded like it

bleak edge
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Why cant i sell all SLAM at once at cru-l5 terminal?

slim atlas
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it has a limited amount per minute you can sell

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check sctrading tools

rose root
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guys im trying to sell at the orphanage and can't get the console there to acknowledge my ship.... any advice?

craggy stone
craggy stone
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But Surge is also possible and maybe a bit better for it but i just had the stampede in the slot at that time

hollow sedge
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So is quant mining "the thing"?

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Or can Iine high value ores and still make a good profit?

craggy stone
#

For me i go with quantanium now. Its up for everybody to make their own math about it. But QUantanium goes for 88aUEC and the next valauable thing would be Bexalite which goes when i remember right for 44aUEC

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Quantanium need a bit planning because of Volatile Cargo. The others are more relaxing.

hollow sedge
craggy stone
civic kite
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is it worth filling my taurusโ€™ inventory from hadanite that i roc mine to sell?

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like if i theoretically fill it entirely with hadanite would i make a lot from it?

craggy stone
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At the moment you would need to take every single hadanite and drag it to the inventory of the raurus. As long as there isnt any other way ? And this takes you a lot of time

civic kite
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ah so taking the cargo container out of the roc and storing it in the taurus inventory isnt possible?

craggy stone
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for me i didnt found a solution for it because u cant store all commidities

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with the new inventory system they removed that. And now you need to drag every single one by hand from the roc inventory in your personal inventory and then into the ship

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this is why i switched to prospecotr mining

civic kite
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well now iโ€™m sad

magic shard
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Ok, so I have done my first two Mole runs and it wasn't good, so I have a couple of questions.

  1. It's rented, so no quantinium. I have tried one rock, with two lasers, but it was way too tough, all the other rocks were a breeze. So, apart from quantinium, what ores would make you mine the rock?
  2. What breakpoints do you use in the decision making in whether the asteroid is worth mining at all?
  3. How much inert ore in a piece is too much to start extracting it?
  4. Do you use any special scanning settings?
  5. Can you scan the composition from MOLE pilot seat? I only see mass and few parameters. Am I doing something wrong?
meager onyx
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best head for general space mining? not necessarily going for laranite

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quantanium sorry lol

cedar flower
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@crimson mantle would it be possible to also add concept ships into the list for trade routes?
Would help with things like theory crafting etc...

crimson mantle
meager onyx
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i tried looking for the helix 2 at hur L1 like the wiki said and i dont see it there lol any suggestion

cedar flower
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maybe do it like Erkul? where you can swap between life and future(tm)
or you mark concept ships properly in the list

crimson mantle
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Everything scrolls using the mouse wheel, it's just not very clear it does.

meager onyx
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wait there is a console?

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where is it in the refineries? lol

cedar flower
crimson mantle
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I think it's on the room at the back

meager onyx
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so should i go helix 2 over lancet?

cedar flower
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Helix 2 seller locations

meager onyx
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yea i found it, just trying to decide what lazer to get lol

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also what moduels

cedar flower
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Im no miner

but it depends on what you want to mine

meager onyx
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generally everything lol im not picky. just not quantanium do to back space not spawning where you land anymore lol

cedar flower
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Lancet is best for quant
Helix for everything else

meager onyx
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cool

hollow sedge
# cedar flower whats your issue with quant?

Probably the countdown timer. Only 15m to get to a refinery AND You have to find and mine other Quantanium rocks in order to even make the trip worth it at which point your risking sudden deconstruction of yourself and your ship.

cedar flower
hollow sedge
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Big SUCC?

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Also where do you guys find Quant? I was going around mining high value ores on Daymar yesterday and only found two 2% Quantanium deposits

fleet thistle
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Where do I buy mining heads for the prospector? Loreville?

obsidian stone
fleet thistle
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Thanks

hollow sedge
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I went to Tammy's and Sons last night and didn't find the prospector mining drill there.

cedar flower
forest basin
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guys is there a cheap ship that i can rent for trading or are they all expensive?

obsidian stone
forest basin
fleet thistle
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@obsidian stone Is there a specific spot at cru-l1 for the mining head, I'm at the mining support center but I don't see it

obsidian stone
fleet thistle
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Oh okay

worthy scroll
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So this one QT sensitive mission keeps spitting out more and more boxes for me. I could fill the landing pad with them if I wanted to.

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Hmm, and the boxes don't work for the mission either.

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So that was interesting. The boxes weren't working (well, one of them did, but it wouldn't give me a labeled second box). So I decided to toss the mission and do another one. But I forgot to dump the boxes before QTing, so when I did, I got disabled, but didn't blow up. I couldn't start my ship again until I abandoned the mission, which deleted the boxes, and then the ship worked just fine.

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And to top it off I pulled a blackout maneuver earlier, and my character's hearing has been messed up since then, everything has a far away tunnel sound to it. Made the whole experience surreal.

fair pine
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Scrapyard terminals dont recognize my ship. What can i do?

sonic laurel
hollow sedge
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so i found a hadenit cluster that was 5 or 6 how rare is this

sonic laurel
hollow sedge
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What's the max amount a hadenit cluster can have

sonic laurel
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Most I have ever seen

craggy stone
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i had some times 10-12

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but really rare

jagged hull
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does the Argo Mole have Quantainium stabilization?

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or is that just the RSI Orion?

north oyster
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it will count down and blow up like in the Prospector

jagged hull
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dang

north oyster
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Unless I've totally missed that feature in the MOLE

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Not too much of an issue if you plan it right. I normally mine Aaron's Halo and can make it back to CRU-L1 proto with no issues

jagged hull
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okay, thanks

north oyster
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I've running trade to build core funds, now time to start mining. Going slow because I have very little time (atm) that I can play the game

craggy stone
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This is what i call a nugget ๐Ÿ˜„

north oyster
craggy stone
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unfortanetely i didnt had all 100% at extraction. But after refine its 2900. So sold for 88 it will be 255k. is ok for 30min job ๐Ÿ˜„

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i was afraid if the prospector will brake a 5100Mass rock

hollow sedge
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Never did prospector mining how is it

craggy stone
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For me at the moment the best way to make money ๐Ÿ˜„ Its not so bugged like ROC mining

north oyster
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It's a fleshed out game loop, you do need a ship to carry the cargo to market though, so keep that in mind.

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Best fan made video (imo) about those of us who Mine in SC for our career

cinder osprey
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Where does everyone mine Quantainium at?

craggy stone
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im between ARC-L1 and Hurston

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Aaron Halo

cinder osprey
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How long does it usually take you to find a decent rock?

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Also does anyone have the Aaron Halo chart?

craggy stone
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Honestly there isnt a time you can say for finding those. Sometimes after 1 min you find sometimes after 10 sometimes after 20

cinder osprey
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I used to mine in HUR L3 but its not been great recently. Taking like 15-20+ min each time

raw shell
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lyria, then the Halo when I get sick of blowing myself up

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found a 7k 45% rock earlier today. No chance of breaking that solo in a prospector though. Tried with two surges and a stampede but no dice

thin escarp
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@cinder osprey lyria cru l3 and hur l3

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also solid spots

cinder osprey
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HUR L3 isn't being nice to me

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Trying Aaron Halo now

tropic shuttle
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Anyone know a good place I can try prospector for space mining?

blissful geode
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Do active modules that have a timer stack (i.e. Brandt and Stampede)?

leaden cape
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neither of the dropdown menus have an option, how do i get the refined material into a ship to sell in a city?

craggy stone
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which ship do you have at the station?

leaden cape
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prospector

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stored

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its the free rental one from IAE

craggy stone
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For me i wasnt able to have it in the prospector after refine. i took a transport ship to there

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do you have other ships ?

leaden cape
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most of the IAE ships and a nomad

craggy stone
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claim one transport ship there

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the first menu dropdown just works if you have anything to refine with you

leaden cape
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does it have to be a designated transport ship or will any ship with scu work

blissful geode
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I think the prospector might only be able to store mined materials

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anything else with scu should work I'd think

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not 100% sure though

leaden cape
#

i still have some unrefined materials in my prospector too, will i need to fly both ships over to a city to sell or can i claim one of the ships once i get there?

blissful geode
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if you claim a ship it loses its cargo

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I think you can sell the unrefined stuff at the refinery though, check the station to the left of the one in your screenshot

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I haven't actually done it myself, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong

leaden cape
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thats what i thought this dropdown menu would be for but my prospector doesnt show up there

blissful geode
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ahhh then I'm not sure

leaden cape
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after storing the ship i think i voided the cargo? or maybe after i sent the refinery order it voided the unrefined materials...

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but my quantum fuel is still drained... so losing my cargo is a bug either way

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oh well

craggy stone
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no according to the minery sell picture you didnt had any mining materials left.

blissful geode
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Gonna test it with the load I just brought in, one sec

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Before processing:

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processing leaving the quartz and beryl for testing:

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ahh yeah:

craggy stone
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yeah he will remove the not selected to refine materials i guess

wraith jungle
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where would I go if I wanted to try ROC mining?

north oyster
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I wouldn't recommend ROC mining at the moment. But if you wanted a good planet Aberdeen or Ariel are both the best ones

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You will also need a Pembroke armor

north oyster
wraith jungle
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thanks, I just want to try it, not so much for the cash as for trying out the mechanic. thanks!

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I do have pembroke and novikov armors for both kinds of hot and cold planets

honest path
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Are the ore selling consoles at the L1 stations gliched right now because it won't let me select my ship to sell the ore

compact copper
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Does anyone know the most consistent trading route cause on the sc trading tools website the prices are off by a lot

honest path
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No

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It was freshly mined ore

leaden cape
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idk... did you store the craft or was it still on the pad?

honest path
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I stored it

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But I just got more ore so I can try while it is on the pad

worthy scroll
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Box missions are getting deadly. I grabbed my box, walked out of the hab, did some weird thing, fell down the steps, blacked out a few times, then spawned here.

leaden cape
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๐Ÿ‘

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i wonder if VLRTs have a lower death rate than box missions...

worthy scroll
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That's the second time I've been killed like that while running boxes in the past couple days.

leaden cape
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maybe try buying and trading materials instead of boxes? might have less dumb physics accidents

worthy scroll
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I have less than zero interest in that kind of trading. And I don't have a ship that would make it profitable even if I was interested.

hollow sedge
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hey all i just did an investigate wreckage claim with a buddy and we took a bunch of materials from the site, where can i sell them?

worthy scroll
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Luckily my box was still there. Used to be if something happened like that it was guaranteed to fall through the ground.

willow tiger
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Anyone know of places that buy scrap? PO Doesn't anymore

hot crest
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ight got a Caterpillar and wana do trade runs how would i do this

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any routes ?

frozen locust
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anyone got a video to shows cargo runnin or a how to>

still valley
still valley
frozen locust
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boy your helpfull

still valley
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This server isn't your personal google.

still valley
worthy scroll
#

๐Ÿ˜†

floral storm
willow tiger
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How has CIG not fixed this yet

willow tiger
still valley
#

If you're going to complain, don't complain in a reply to me please.

cyan salmon
worthy scroll
willow tiger
sick flare
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Is there a strategy for finding good quant rocks?

Right now I goto the halo, set my map route to the refinery, and then fly towards that as my reference point

sonic laurel
worthy scroll
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Probably shouldn't have had that widow either.

sonic laurel
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definitely not

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I, however, will freebase altrucitoxin before boarding the 890 jump mission and killing everyone who moves

worthy scroll
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Jeebers even moving at the slowest speed I'm still falling down stairs with these boxes.

sonic laurel
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that's the current workaround

worthy scroll
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Gotcha. Never had this problem before, guess it's relatively new.

sonic laurel
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yeah it's new to this patch I believe

rocky jacinth
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oh that's unintended? I just started playing and assumed it was because the wind was so strong it was taking me out doge

worthy scroll
#

Immersion

north oyster
# frozen locust anyone got a video to shows cargo runnin or a how to>

This is Jack Axton, one of the best Traders in the 'verse. He did this video just awhile back and it has detailed information on how to trade and where to trade. Along with tips of things to avoid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxTYWawbvM

EDIT: Currently CIG is smart and disabled all of Scrap. Do NOT buy scrap. There is no available port to sell.

EDIT: There is a mistake on the Astatine table for the MSR. The proper values should be Buy in: 79,800, Profit: 22,800, Profit Per Hour: 68,400. I had an incorrect decimal throwing off values and I apologize for the confusion.

With 3.1...

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I want to also apologize for those who go anal when someone ask for help because they probably forgot what it was like when they needed help or was learning the game. I had a lot of citizens who helped me and gave good advice and got me hooked on this game despite the bugs and failures of the Alpha state.

north oyster
#

JACK AXTON Does a new State of Trade video today. Worth watching if you want to know what is happening with Trade in Star Citizen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9JJsoDlYxc

Sorry for the delay! I have been sick for the last week and you can definitely hear it in my voice for this episode.

The IAE wraps up, CIG continues to put the "crap" in "Scrap", and trade sees the lowest profits since...about two months ago.

Also, I am so sorry, we've had a discord for forever now I'm just bad at media in general. If you'd l...

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tepid hawk
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Can you mine in a stock argo mole without any modules or upgrades?

north oyster
tepid hawk
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I wouldn't have a group.

north oyster
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Still, you can put on laser on it, kick the pwr up just a little (not enough to really increase the charge) then go to a second laser and run crack it from there. @thin escarp could probably give you better pointers on doing it since I primarily always use a Prospector.

thin escarp
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whats up

north oyster
#

Solo Mole question from Moxide

thin escarp
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you can mine in a stock mole but nothing thats really worth it.

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highly suggest putting lasers at least

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lancet mh2's

north oyster
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which are very reasonably priced for the performance you get

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Well, on the Prospector the Lancet is super cheap

tepid hawk
#

The thing is I rented it, so I can't mod it at all. If I owned one I'd use surge/stampede/brandt and a lancet I think

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I wanna skip past getting a prospector and just shoot for the mole

paper pewter
#

i have been to two places to sell scrap and neither see I have a ship landed

viral harbor
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scrap is bugged pretty sure, dunno if thats related

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I found myself selling at a price thats lower than what i bought it for...

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and im using the trading site, is there something else i can do to prevent that from happening?

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oh nvm, the shop is full?

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how can i prevent that??

sage kernel
#

soo are most roc nodes under terrain rocs or whats the deal with that?

paper pewter
#

sc trade tools show stock details


I have seen many R.O.C. minables inside of "prop" bolders

still valley
#

Can't find shit for my roc on Aberdeen, did they scramble the spawns for them again?

still valley
#

There's real-time supply & demand at play here

sage kernel
#

dumb question because its been awhile.. can you process hadanite at the refineries? if so is there a point? im pretty sure its just only sold raw at the local shops right?

paper pewter
#

cannot be refined

still valley
sage kernel
#

rgr thanks for saving me the trip ๐Ÿ™‚

thin escarp
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@paper pewter did u have a backpack on

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@tepid hawkclaim it and log off until the claim timer is done. then when u log back in you will be able to change the lasers etc

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you can always hop in one of my moles to

paper pewter
#

no backpack when attempting to sell scrap at 3 scrapyards

marble crater
torpid skiff
#

Hey guys,
With our friends we've been mining some random rocks on a random moon, , refined it at MIC-1, with moderate cost high yield but in the end we got only about 10k aUEC for about 8k cost of refining.....
Do we have to be selective on our rocks or something like that ?

floral storm
torpid skiff
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I see. Are there location we should avoid ? I struggle to find up to date guides about mining, so we've been mainly going randomly right now XD

floral storm
#

I have been sucessful in the Aaron Halo (you'll have to google for the route) or Yela (near Crusader) but YMMV

torpid skiff
#

hmmm... I see
Heard about Yela. We might give it a shot but that would need relocating ๐Ÿ˜›

marble crater
#

this will give you a rough idea as to what the rates are

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wouldn't bother refining Hephaestanite and lower

torpid skiff
#

Isn't Quantaninium the stuff that explodes after 22min ? ๐Ÿ˜›

marble crater
#

sure is, it's also the only thing worth mining lol

torpid skiff
#

Ah ! XD

ripe thorn
marble crater
#

but if you're learning you can go for other stuff in the same colour group

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which won't blow up

torpid skiff
#

We'll probably try that. My mates still exploded rocks right on my ship and had to repair XD

ripe thorn
#

Itโ€™s worth learning prospector mining for quantanium. Got 130k auec in one hour.

torpid skiff
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Oh nice !

marble crater
#

the timer starts when you collect the first piece so take your time breaking up all the chunks first then collect in one pass

torpid skiff
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I see

marble crater
#

timer also stops when you store your ship

ripe thorn
#

Break all gold outline rocks that have quant. Then visually remember the purple rocks with quant to not rescan every time and waste time. Than quickly collect all purple collectible quant rocks and rush to refinery.

torpid skiff
#

I see
Thanks for the info ! We'll try that tonight !

ripe thorn
#

There is still lots to learn reguarding consumables for the mining laser. And which mining head to use. So yah. Complex shit. But I had so much fun making my first serious money on Friday. Canโ€™t wait to get home and make more

craggy stone
marble crater
#

that sounds like a bug tbh

craggy stone
craggy stone
marble crater
#

yeah never had it blow up/disappear after storing (even after doing the mad dash with Quant alarm going off) but I also make my way straight to the refinery after. I wouldn't risk logging off or doing a bunch of bounty hunting after it's stored. That dying scenario sounds like it bugged something though

craggy stone
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Yeah i mean we all go directly to refinery ๐Ÿ˜„ Maybe i should test it. get some quant and then store it and wait a half hour XD

ripe thorn
marble crater
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i wish you could drop a beacon or marker

ripe thorn
#

Learned you can take a box delivery mission. Then drop the box where you want a marker to come back too.

marble crater
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ooh not a bad workaround

craggy locust
#

The Hull B will be purely out of atmosphere, is that correct?

torpid skiff
#

Hull B is the biggest that can haul stuff in atmosphere. C and more shouldn't be able to haul in atmosphere. But they should be able to travel on planets once unloaded

minor moon
#

What's good for trading atm?

exotic badger
#

?who buys scrap

minor moon
#

I bought a load just before the selling of scrap was banned

exotic badger
#

@minor moon banned?

rose root
#

Hi guys thinking of getting a prospector...how do you sell ore from the refinery? Do I Need another ship to haul it planetside or can I sell from a refinery?

minor moon
pale crane
rose root
#

Oooh Ok. Would renting a hauler kill all the AEUC you'd make tho?

marble crater
#

you can stack refinery jobs till you get around 90 scu worth which will be around $790K. renting a Connie for $70k ish becomes fine

#

this is only if you're mining Quantainium though

rose root
#

Ahh true

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I was thinking of getting a freelancer Max so I guess I could use that. I do have a ROC it's just finicky roc mining atm

marble crater
#

also you can sell the unrefined ore straight away as a quick option and not deal with refining or hauling cargo

rose root
#

Ohhh!

marble crater
#

this can be better if you're not mining Quantainium

rose root
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Do you guys remember how you could take a full ROC load into a container and just chuck it in your ship and keep going, is there anyway to do that in 3.15? All i can see is manually taking each unit of mined mineral and moving it inventory wise

rose root
marble crater
#

it seems they got rid of being able to dump all the ROC cargo into a crate instantly. there was an exploit in 3.14 using that crate maybe it was to temporarily stop that?

rose root
#

Ahhh right. Damn. Looks like a PO run each full ROC again

marble crater
#

or bring 2 ROCS ๐Ÿ˜†

rose root
#

could I fit two in a max?

marble crater
#

yeah it's an easy fit

exotic badger
#

Right i figured that out. Im out 200k cuz of that shit

valid shoal
#

You can mine??

#

Yo I need information rn how can I get money by mining that's cool

raw shell
# valid shoal You can mine??

What would be most informative for you would be to check out some youtube videos on mining. Basically there are four methods (lowest cost first), hand-mining in caves, roc mining, prospector mining, and then mining in the MOLE.

valid shoal
#

The mole ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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Sounds dangerous

raw shell
#

The MOLE cost about 5mil and change, and is a multi-crew ship. You can do it solo but it has issues, especially on planet surfaces. It holds a lot though.

valid shoal
#

Nice, well I'm going to watch some videos

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I saw a ship at 5mil I really like but my missions are worth 20k

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So I'm searching a better way to grind

raw shell
#

if you're new to mining and can afford a ship, I'd recommend the prospector (2mil and change) It works good on both planets and in the belt and gives a steady return

#

tons of videos on it too

valid shoal
#

Okay, but 2mil isn't too much??

raw shell
#

you can make it back pretty fast, also you can rent them. You're not supposed to be able to upgrade the mining heads and use modules but there are ways that it works.. which may or may not last

hollow sedge
#

Is it worth renting the prospector

valid shoal
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I have a cargo bay in the nomad can I use it for ground mining to begin, and then buy the prospector to grind faster

raw shell
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I think you can fit a roc into those

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roc is a grind but I made money using them. Got me to a point I could start renting prospectors

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also, you can 'rent' both a MOLE and a prospector at the IAE show right now for free.. just saying

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and a roc for that matter

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and a bigass vaulk to haul it around in, without having to cram it into a nomad

hollow sedge
#

You can rent them unlill the iae ends right?

raw shell
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I think till december 1st. There are terminals at the space at the bottom of those steps going down from the show floor

hollow sedge
#

Renting them is for 2 days right?

raw shell
#

correct

minor moon
#

What is the current meta for trading?

valid shoal
raw shell
valid shoal
#

Oh nice I'm in tonight

#

What's happens if I explode I rented ship flush

torpid skiff
#

is Aaron Halo still a thing ? I tried following guides to get there, but no luck so far ๐Ÿ˜…

raw shell
torpid skiff
#

I've read that the easiest way to get there is to warp from Hurston to Arcorp, and stopping at something around 9.5Mm remaining but.... I'm the void right now ๐Ÿ˜›

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oh wait, I think the site got the warp distances wrong

cerulean hedge
#

went there yesterday
just warp a little bit further or go back a bit

raw shell
#

I always go from CRU L1 (+5% refinery bonus for quantanium) to ARC L3 and drop out at about 12.5

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If you want an alternative

torpid skiff
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hmmmm

raw shell
#

It's nice and close to get back to the refinery too.. if you're sitting on a quantanium bomb ๐Ÿ˜‰

torpid skiff
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ok, I got it. I guess that once upon a time, there were a deceleration rate for quantum travel

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Which they took into account when writing "stop at Xkms from destination"

raw shell
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I have a set of jpgs that look like they do something like that. Same thing happened to me when I tried to drop out when they said to

idle knoll
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so is scanning asteroids in 3.15 literally 100% broken or something?

idle knoll
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ive tried scanning composition for like 30+ roids with both the scanning mode and the mining mode and nothing fucking works :S

raw shell
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maybe try hopping servers? It's broken but it's not that broken

thin escarp
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@idle knoll asteroidsh are more common to be ghost rocks rn

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there is no ghost rocks on moons though

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but also server hopping helps seems like the server u were on was dying

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@torpid skiff the halo isnt as juicy as it used to be

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if anyone needs help getting into mining. i run training ops weekly and massive scale mining ops on the weeekend. i can def help you guys learn and earn your way to more ships.

raw shell
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I just brought in 31scu of quantanium from the halo

torpid skiff
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Well, we're trying stuff. We also mined a bit on Clio

idle knoll
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yeah ive had moments in the halo where i get good quant, but lately its been as cross says, tons and tons of ghost rocks and theyre all quant rocks cause i can see the classic quant stylings on the textures. ill get the odd one or so that are scannable but its typically sh*t tier composition or like 1% quant.

last summit
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In the Refinery...to the right of the refining console...what are the 2 "Ore Sales" consoles used for. They never seem to have anything to select

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Oops the other right lol. I meant to the left

grave smelt
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how do you mine

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buy pickaxe?

pallid temple
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Its not that retrofuturistic

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You can buy a multitool and then the mining attachment and do it onfoot, or you can buy the Prospector mining ship and do it that way

golden tendon
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First time I tried the multi tool miner I blew myself up

hollow sedge
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Is anyone else seeing their speed limiter drop to zero when exiting the mobiglass while sitting in the pilot seat?

thin escarp
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@last summit if ur wearing a backpack you wont see ur ship on those terminals.

minor moon
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How long does it take for a trading console to reset?

hollow sedge
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So first time mining. Refined Tungsten, Bexalite and Quartz. Im at hurston trading console, but can't select the refined items.

raw shell
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refined stuff you have to sell at the TDD centers

hollow sedge
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yeah i figured it out i was at admin terminal not business district

craggy stone
wraith jungle
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what was the database of every buyable object in game? specifically, I'm looking where to find the Lancet for the prospector

mortal kettle
wraith jungle
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thanks!

raw shell
floral notch
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why cant i scan some rocks?

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i found a few rocks that contained quantanium since the rock is orange spotted but i couldnt scan any of them

still valley
floral notch
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damn ok

burnt burrow
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Is mining in a decent place to go and pick up a mole?

cerulean hedge
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So how are you guys making a profit with mining?

I went out with a prospector I rented for free at IAE, and into the Halo.
I can't mine the big Quantanite rocks as the stock set-up isn't able to.

So I tried to focus on asteroids with Titanium but my runs only yield about 5-10k aUEC each

If I rented the ship it would take hours to break even much less turn a profit

How can I improve my strategy?

craggy stone
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Titanium isnt worth it

marble skiff
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What's the most lucrative thing to mine?

craggy stone
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Quantanium

burnt burrow
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Is it worth buying a mole currently?

craggy stone
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unfortanetely its double worth then the next one but only possible with adding modules to it. So you need to own a prospector. Two possibilities you have you could buy it via Real money or you try to mine with a rented one and buy it ingame for 2m

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If you are alone then no. If you play with friends then yes

valid shoal
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I mine, then go to the station so refine it and then how do I sell it?

craggy stone
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you need to brind it to the TDD Trading halls which you find at for example Lorville, Area18

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But tbh to make a decision for what to buy or what would make sense you should wait for 3.16 and see what the changes will bring for this

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Maybe ship mining get nerfed or get buggy and then you bought a prospector and you see ROC mining is more profitible or Trading

valid shoal
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im just renting it rn

still valley
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Ok so ROC mining in the current build is a bit scuffed. Can still mine okay, it's just that the ROC storage fills up half way on the UI, and you need to unload in order to continue. Gems also can't stack atm either, will probably be fixed soon.

marble skiff
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Whenever I try sucking the minerals from the ground they go literally everywhere but to storage

cerulean hedge
frigid shoal
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Hi, good evening, is the Roc minning bugued? I cant find any single rock mineable by a Roc, all I can find in a planetary surface are Prospector mineable rocks. I tried on Daymar, Aberdeen, MicroTech, Yela... But it's impossible to find any single Roc mineable stone. Any issues about this? Bugued? Nerfed has hell?

craggy stone
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sorry moon

frigid shoal
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I use the scan ping of my Constellation, and look for rock areas

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Where sometime I can find 2 or 3 ROC mineable rocks, but its not the usual stuff

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sometimes*

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I usually see a ROC mineable because it appears in front of me while I'm flying at a low height

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But not because of the scan of my ship

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What do you recommend to find ROC mineable stones?

frozen locust
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whats better the raft or a freelancer cargo wise

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thinkin of upgradin my free lancer to a new/better cargo craft

patent dust
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only the max has more space then raft

craggy stone
# frigid shoal What do you recommend to find ROC mineable stones?

So ROC mineable rocks just appear at 1000m. That mean you really need to fly low and with approx 250 speed. Best would be to take Abeerdeen or Daymar. Aberdeen you NEED a Pembroke as there are more then 200 degrees and if you dont have a pembroke you qucikly suffering body overhead which can cause death. Best is you fly just one direction so check your heading . Top dial which goes from 0-360. Make yourself a marker like HDG 110 and just fly this direction with 250 speed. Fly low and wait till you have boxes which are under 1000m. Then you know its a minable Rock for your ROC. Just look for at least 3 stones of hardanite. Scanner is buggy at the moment so what you do is go closer look with some on it. When its looks purple then you know its Hardanite. Dont waste your time for one single Hardanite or others like Aphorite. Just take minimum 3 Hardanite rocks

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and sorry for spamming that much text

sage kernel
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is there a way to trigger a rescan? switching modes doesnt work

tepid rose
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i was on arile

craggy stone
craggy stone
fresh ivy
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running with some friends, we're doing an argo mole and using an MSR to sell refined material, are there any issues we're likely to run into?

craggy stone
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Just the usual one like quantum drive bugs. But normally it should work out fine

tepid rose
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yea i went to aberdeen and i am getting better luck

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i am following your advice

craggy stone
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ok let me know if you find something or not but be in mind that ROC mining at the moment isnt the greatest at all due to some extraction issues

tepid rose
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yea but its the only way i can make money

fresh ivy
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Cool, wasn't sure if it was likely that the Mole would mine more than I could carry in the MSR

tepid rose
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holy shit aberdeen is hot

fresh ivy
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or if I can take partial loads, or what

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(heheh)

tepid rose
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230 degrees

craggy stone
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therefore the pembroke

tepid rose
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i am wearing it

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1 hour survival time

craggy stone
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good so look your body temperature when it reaches 39 degress go into your ship and take the armor of otherwise the heat will not dissapear

main saddle
main saddle
valid shoal
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my charge level is stuck all the way up

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any tips for this bug?

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i already disconnected reco

tawny leaf
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Probably a dumb question but I'm new at this: is it possible to dump a specific type of cargo with the Prospector? Like the inert material, for example.

craggy stone
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Inert Material will dumped when you go to the refinery and you have something to refine

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and you refine it

tawny leaf
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Ah okay, so there's no way to dump it out in the dark so I can scoop up more of what I care about.

craggy stone
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iirc no

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maybe if you store it and respawn it

hybrid pivot
tawny leaf
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Is there nowhere to sell raw ore on HUR L3?

still valley
rose root
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Good advice @still valley . a stackable inventory patch will be a god send

valid shoal
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can i buy a better mining laser on a rented ship?

desert yarrow
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what is the best way to find quantanium in the belt ring ? does it only spawn in a specific rock?

raw shell
brave mist
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is reclimation out

covert panther
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I can't sell at Reclamation & Disposal Orinth ... am I doing something wrong?
There's no pad to land on.

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As in my ship isn't appearing on the console.

native plank
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2 questions, is the ROC good for mining and does it fit inside the Drake Cutlass Black? and is ROC mining profitable?

still valley
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Question: is ROC mining in groups (2 or above really) economically viable, or do you merely see a diminishing return? Why or why not?

still valley
still valley
# native plank 2 questions, is the ROC good for mining and does it fit inside the Drake Cutlass...

Feel free to copy / paste this or screenshot:

3.15.1 ROC Mining Tips

  • Appears on radar at < 1,000 m.
  • fly LOW & SLOW; approx. 100-250 m/s speed. Keep pinging.
  • Aberdeen or Daymar (Aberdeen requires a Pembroke suit or you will last only minutes).
  • Maintain a fixed heading, stick to it.
  • Do not stop for deposits containing less than 3 nodes.
  • Only mine Hadanite: Purple in colour. Don't bother with Dolivine or Aphorite.
  • If scan fails: only mine if the node has orange stains and purple gems.
  • Max theoretical ROC capacity if 100% Hadanite is 220,000 aUEC (275 ร— 800)

3.15.1 Known ROC issues

  • Gem stowage rate slowed down significantly; stows gems 1 at a time. (Workaround: only beam up a few at a time to avoid flinging them everywhere)
  • ROC inventory fills up prematurely, requiring emptying
  • Gems cannot stack, may be related to aforementioned issues
  • You're no longer able to store all of the gems in a crate (workaround: A community-made solution using destroyed ship crates. I do not take credit for this idea or this YouTube upload. Please read the included disclaimer in the video if you intend on using this method. They do not offer a long-term storage solution. https://youtu.be/XDMMMIxaMmk)

The best way to prepare the cargo box is to use planetary mining outposts. Claim 100i / Argo Cargo - spawn the ship - Place Torso armor - Fly outside armistice - self-destruct - repeat
Large cargo boxes is perfect tool to loot bunkers or caves. They are easy to carry around, yet they can fit so much more than a regular backpack. With 2-3 of thes...

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covert panther
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Okay - so trading scrap is broken I've just learned.
Which is a killer as I spent everything loading up a C2 hull of scrap (free rental from expo) and now I have 1aUEC to my name - lol.
Kill me.

still valley
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Rip. Check trade-tools. :(

covert panther
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That's where I read to trade scrap.

tawny leaf
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What size mining head does the Prospector use?

still valley
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The red banner should still display "Scrap trading is broken atm - proceed with caution"

still valley
covert panther
still valley
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Ye that too

covert panther
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But not which ones lol

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I figured it would highlight the broken ones.

still valley
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The ones without pads from my testing

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Just singular buildings

covert panther
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So all 'nearby parked ships'?

still valley
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Yup, size won't matter

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Nor proximity

covert panther
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Right.
So, question, what can I do to turn 1 gold coin back into the 70k I just burned?

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(feel like I've just traded in crypto).

still valley
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Wdym 1 gold coin

covert panther
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1 currency token ....

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er

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aUEC

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Couldn't remember the easy to use currency ๐Ÿ˜„

still valley
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Oh you mean the scrap you invested in

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One sec

covert panther
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Well it seems only single buildings buy it

still valley
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Did you note the location of purchase

covert panther
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I bought from CBD in Lorville.

still valley
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Star Citizen Wiki

Scrap is waste that is ready to be converted into new materials for reuse.
Clovus Darneely at Reclamation & Disposal in Lorville has a dialogue option to sell scrap, to which he points you toward a nearby terminal. As of 3.7 however, this terminal is non-functinal.

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PO & GH under sell column, try em

covert panther
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"As of 3.7 however, this terminal is non-functinal."

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I can try though.

still valley
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Whoops, on mobile

covert panther
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Oh, there are a few options.

still valley
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Holy shit a typo

covert panther
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lol - yeah.

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I saw that too.

still valley
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Yeah just try multiple sites tbh

covert panther
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I wanted to correct it but it was a quote.

still valley
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Did you note the per unit price you bought in-game for? It's always slightly different from sites

covert panther
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I didn't....

still valley
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Always a chance to learn haha

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I always take a sc or note down the values in Atom

covert panther
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Right now, I don't care - I'll break even or take a hit, as long as I don't lose EVERYTHING.

still valley
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I smashed into arccorp in a cat full of med supplies last week, losing around 3 m, because exiting QT put me in decoupled mode and I was tabbed out doing other stuff

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You only lose if you give up

hallow swallow
still valley
hallow swallow
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Of course I do ROC mining to get the most out of it. As we can all see 3.15 has been really tough on us ROC miners. Scan is wonky, extraction is wonky. But I do ROC mining just to break things up from combat, trading, or quant mining.

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I typically do Daymar, Aberdeen, or Arial.

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Arial seems to have a lot more boulders rocks on the surface in 3.15 compared to 3.14. And that is why, at least on Arial, you get lots of gems stuck inside boulders.

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When the PTU opened up I flew around the same location on Arial and definitely they added more ground cover.

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So I think that was a first pass, then later they will change up the coding or whatever to determine how gems are placed.

sage kernel
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so frustrating.. seems like even using the modern methods the scanners are too flaky to work.. prospector mining is trash.. and in general i hate mining everytime i try

still valley
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There is a bug report in #bug-hunt-chat where mined goods convert to inert material. Wasted 3.5 hours searching KekHands

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!info

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!traderoute NewBabbage Orison

brisk loom
floral notch
#

Whats the minimum percentage of quantanium that you guys think should be worth mining?

hallow swallow
floral notch
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makes sense

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thanks

covert panther
brisk loom
floral notch
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First time seeing so many quantanium in one spot

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only one was above 30% though...

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rest were single digit percentage

native plank
#

Which is better DS or standard ROC?

ruby moth
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roc is solo, DS is two players (pilot and miner)

pliant matrix
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Tbh I don't see the point of DS. Do the same job but split income in two

ruby moth
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DS has a higher cargo capacity too I think

pliant matrix
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Yeah 3.5 for ds 0.8 for Roc

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But considering actual struggle to find mineables filling it would take ages

surreal compass
#

Yo, where do I go to get a lancet mining head? Feels like I'm on a goose hunt for a terminal that will sell it

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Seems the selling locations changed. Can't buy a head at refineries now because they dont show up in ther terminals

floral storm
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Last time, it showed 0.8 even innthe DS though

native plank
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Where should I sell Hadanite? Will Everus Harbour accept it?

real yew
finite hinge
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Just upgraded my Nomad to the Argo RAFT just because I love the look lol. No idea where to start and I had money prior to wipe so going to start with scrap! ๐Ÿ˜

marble crater
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haven't managed to sell any scrap in 3.15 but see how it goes for you

finite hinge
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Might be losing my last 9k then lol! It's all learning

rose root
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Boys whats the cheapest hauler with the biggest space ?

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Lancer Max?

wraith jungle
pallid temple
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You can use cornerstone item finder to look for ship components and modules

wraith jungle
#

which is exactly the site I used that led me to those locations which did not sell it. sorry if I sound abrasive, but thats the way I did my search, and thats why I'm asking if someone actually found it ingame in 3.15, and where

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microTech doesn't have it either iirc

pallid temple
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Are you absolutely sure you looked in the right place in-game?

native plank
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Anybody know roughly how long it would take to complety fill the ROC's cargo?

hollow sedge
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Depends if you only want hadenite or evrything

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I think I was minin around 1 hour and 30 min and got it to half of its cargo

marble crater
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took me 2 & 1/2 hours to fill up a ROC with Hadanite lmao

hollow sedge
#

Well you do have to have luck finding it and then the is an chance that's inside another rock

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That you can't mine

raw shell
woeful sky
woeful sky
finite hinge
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Thanks - someone in game also mentioned this so didnt bother

rain lava
#

Hello i would like to do some cargo hauling wich road is interesting to do ?

raw shell
verbal cargo
rose root
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Guys what's the scu difference between the raft and FL Max?

wraith jungle
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wow, okay that sounds really well hidden, thanks for the hints!!
I thought about scrolling the items lists down but never thought the tabs were also scrollable, thank you all!

north oyster
north oyster
raw shell
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so this is my recent luck with quant mining. Yesterday I was hauling in 43SCU in a rented Argo with that volatile alarm blaring. I jacked up the speed in vain hopes of breaking before getting to the station and of course could not stop at all and smashed right into it. Then, switched to a newly purchased prospector later in the day. Was bringing in a modest load of quant with that darn alarm blaring again. Landed much more carefully this time and in a rush to get out of my seat, discovered that the "jettison cargo" button on the alarm panel does indeed work. Accidently hit it when trying to exit pilot seat

brazen falcon
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Sounds like there something you could do different in regard to the alarm going off. I can usually hit the landing pad just before or just as the alarm is starting.

Are you waiting to start hoovering up the quant until you've broken all the rocks down? I like to break everything down until I think I have enough to fill the hold then start hoovering. As soon as that's done I beat feet to the station and turn it in. Another thing to consider is the speed of the q drive you are using, the stock one on the prospector will not cut it. I use the second fastest civillian q drive, it's fast enough and I can do a qaunt run using only half the tank.

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After I go sell it all today I'll be 1mil aUEC richer.

raw shell
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nice haul! yes, doing those things and mostly just being dumb. I'll go find that quantum drive though, thanks for the recommendation! I was wondering if there was a good upgrade for the prospector

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I need to remember that the yellow alarm just means "10 min"

atomic falcon
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i have a question regarding buying cargo from new babbage if this is the right place?

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trying to do a trade run but at the new babbage TDD it shows only scrap and waste for sale?

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ami missing something or is it disabled or maybe gallog is out of date?

atomic falcon
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ah ok. so gallog is either out of date or just completely incorrect. cheers

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anyone have any trading sites that are better at all?

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or does everyone just use the trade tools site?

woeful bloom
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I'm grinding for a prospector atm, wondering how much in total aUEC I will need to fit it out with the best gear.

raw shell
torpid skiff
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Hey guys, is there a way to clean Mole's windows ?
My mining operators have been complaining about windows so dirty they could barely see ๐Ÿ˜…

raw shell
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I don't think so, Lili.. I agree, it's annoying

torpid skiff
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wellll..... I guess we can reclaim it as long as we don't upgrade it XD

raw shell
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you just loose your upgrades when you reclaim, have to buy them again

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is there a way to see if your cargo is still on a ship, after a 30k?

pallid temple
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Not from inside the ship

wild dock
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Sometimes trading makes me want to die. Was doing a normal trade route last night with the RAFT and had to step away for a min. When I came back I had timed out but when I logged back in I was in loriville and my ship along with all my cargo was gone. It says itโ€™s on the trade outpost I was at but when I go there the pads are empty and it doesnโ€™t show up anywhere. Iโ€™m not back down to 1aUEC

atomic falcon
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yikes.. i hope that 30k protection works then.. if not then im most likely gonna stop playing again until theres a better solution. thats why i stopped playing a coupl years ago, lost all my cash too many times from things like glitching out of my ship during qt or splining into planets

wild dock
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What 30k protection/

upper garden
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Am I missing some way to refine at New Babbage?

atomic falcon
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well.. the one thats supposed to be in the verse to protect against losing cargo etc when you get a 30k error. unless im mistaken and thats not in yet

upper garden
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Or in the area?

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Saw videos mentioning terminals at Planetary Services, but there are only trade terminals there.

wild dock
atomic falcon
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as far as what i read it should be at the last place you landed and you can call it from storage and the cargo should be onboard.

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in theory

wild dock
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i went to the terminal and it only had the option for an insurance claim. It shows up in the cargo trade terminal with all its cargo but it cant sell titanium to it

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So I have 75k in resources that is sitting in orbit that i literally cant do anything with

wild dock
atomic falcon
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im not 100% sure how it all works or even if it works. youd have to read up on it or check out youtube. i just noticed it when digging through notes while downloading the game. ive only been back in the verse for 2 days since 2018 or 19

wild dock
atomic falcon
# wild dock Ive only had the game about a month, got it like a week and a half or so before ...

On Friday, CIG put out an update that added a temporary workaround fix for the loss of ships after a 30k. This fix has been long overdue and is a substantial improvement to the quality of life for the game. Join me as I showcase the improvement in action, as well as talk about other improvements like bed logging.

#StarCitizen #Gameplay #3.15

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this might help?

wild dock
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Ill look at it, thanks

atomic falcon
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hope it helps

wild dock
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I dont think it will, i was AFK. normally when the server crashes i just respawn on my ship, it kicked me for inactivity

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I think next time ill just have to set the cruise control really low and hope i dont hit anything

atomic falcon
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ah.. well in theory your ship should still be floating about as far as i know

hollow sedge
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Can I use my cutlass to transport my mined ors after I minded and refunded them

wild dock
atomic falcon
wild dock
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Ive noticed random issues with the ROC interferring with the cargo

atomic falcon
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ive lost far too much in this game so far to trust much at all really XD

wild dock
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๐Ÿ˜‚

atomic falcon
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literal millions in cargo losses before i rage quit last

wild dock
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Iโ€™m pretty close, Iโ€™ve probably lost 200k at this point

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Jesus

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I wouldโ€™ve completely quit everything at that point

raw shell
atomic falcon
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yeah.. and now im back with an even bigger ship that can lose me even more at a time

wild dock
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๐Ÿ˜‚

atomic falcon
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i started with an aurora, ccu to a connie, then to a cat, now to a banu merchantman with a c2 herc as a loaner..

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my ships keep getting bigger and bigger, so i can crash and lose more and more cargo

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wish there was a stat for most cargo lost or something lol

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needs stuff like steam acheivements.

wild dock
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Im pretty sure youd be in the top percentages of lost cargo

atomic falcon
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ive slowly upgraded ove the last few years, a mate of mine has too much money and has been playing the ccu game and working his way up to a massive fleet, he has like 3 banu merchantman ships so he traded me a ccu lol