#industrial-professions

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sonic laurel
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no problem

sage geyser
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what are the pros and cons of aaron halo over planetary mining?

real yew
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cons are that asteroids might not have as much mass as planetary ones, and some ores are not found in the astroid belt, I think

sage geyser
undone socket
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is aerial and aberdeen still best place to find hadenite?

sage geyser
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i usually go to aerial

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arial*

frail roost
wet gate
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Now I know where to hunt people, thanks guys.

real yew
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Because in stormy weather the VTOL might not be enough to stay on position during ground mining, so being solo in a Mole could be challenging

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But the Mole has more SCU so if you do Quantainium mining you don't have to worry so much about picking up unwanted ores.

sage geyser
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i see

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its just lyria to hur l2 or lyria to mic l1 for refining

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is well

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dangerous xD

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on prospector

frail roost
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And possibly already have the route plotted.

real yew
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There's that area called, among miners, "The Motherland" on Lyria

cloud briar
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Is it possible to fill up a mole with quant in time and deliver it to the refinery ?

real yew
cloud briar
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And the capacity of a mole is 80scu ive heard.. is that right ?

real yew
cloud briar
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Oh wow nice

real yew
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I don't know why Erkul says 115

cloud briar
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Well now i know what to save up for haha

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But i also love doing bounties. Hard to choose lol

real yew
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why not both 😉

cloud briar
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Are you gonna be my sponsor ? 😂

real yew
cloud briar
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So from what ive seen in this chat, is lyria the place to be for quant now ?

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Yea im just playing with the subscriber ships lol

real yew
cloud briar
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Oh okay thx :)

real yew
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And keep rock mass in mind, everything up to around 5k mass can be done without any mining modules quite easily

cloud briar
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Well when i go mining i go fully prepared 😂

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So other mining laser and modules

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I don't want to leave anything behind haha

copper ivy
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Just lost 50k to a player Pirate, feels bad man

marble crater
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still haven't tried solo Mole mining. pretty happy just using the Prospector still

cloud briar
delicate girder
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Saw this on a plaque in the Eagis area of the show. Can you see what's completely wrong with the statement?

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pallid temple
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The thing is... the Retaliator does actually have a cargo module

north oyster
delicate girder
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Hadn't realized that because I tend focus more on what's actually in the game now. Now if they could put the Tali's two torp module on the back of a Connie in the place of the snub!

manic whale
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no

coarse cape
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Torp modules wouldn’t fit in the back lmao

cinder forum
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Can't seem to do any mining that's worth it, always either end up searching for two hours for expensive ore, or mining slightly less expensive stuff and it's never worth more than like 20k. What am I doing wrong here

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We were flying around in a c2 with a roc Ds in the cargo bay

sharp latch
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So what’s the big money trade route. Maximum profit to travel distance?

shell edge
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depends on your SCU, really.

sharp latch
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Nothing crazy. MSR

shell edge
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so 114

sharp latch
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Yes

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Oh I have the Taurus too from subscribers loaners

shell edge
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well, laranite is the "best", but also the one with the most competition, so you rarely get a full load.

sharp latch
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I remember find a site once upon a time but got detoured from being a trader due to the 30k nightmare. I have quite a bit of UEC now so I’m not too worried about losing anything to bugs

shell edge
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there is protection against 30k now

sharp latch
shell edge
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laranite, medical supplies, astatine

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would be the legal commodites I would go after if I had a MSR

sharp latch
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Are they cheaper anywhere specific and demand anywhere specific?

shell edge
cedar chasm
shell edge
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I can highly reccommend this site

sharp latch
shell edge
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if there is a 30k, you and ship, and its cargo and local inventory will be stored at the last location you landed at.

cedar chasm
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nice

shell edge
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but it can take about 10 minutes or so to kick in before you can retrieve the ship

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so do not claim it in the mean time 🙂

cedar chasm
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what patch was it?

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3.15 or .1

shell edge
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3.15

cedar chasm
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nice

shell edge
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I have tested it once

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and have been trading about every day

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so the amount of 30ks is way down from what it was

cedar chasm
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how much do you profit from trading?

shell edge
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20-25% on each run

cedar chasm
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could i trade in an aurora?

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sounds dumb ik

shell edge
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you could, but it would not amount to much 🙂

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would earn more doing box missions

cedar chasm
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how much is not much

shell edge
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you have 3 SCU?

cedar chasm
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think so yeah

sharp latch
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Small bug on storing ships though. Be mindful of that. Not sure it was addressed in 15.1 but even if I stored the ship via console I would still be asked to “claim” it.

shell edge
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that is about 300 units of commodity

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take laranite, the maximum spread between the lowest purchasing price and highest selling price is 6 auec, so you would maximum earn 300 x 6 = 1800 auec pr trip, if you could get the maximum profit, which you wouldn't since there is so much competition

cedar chasm
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oh jesus yeah

shell edge
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of, course, you could try drugs 🙂

sharp latch
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Oh shit! I forgot about the hidden compartments

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Trade tools wants me to be a drug runner lol

shell edge
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although i do not reccommend drugs if you have a lot of cargo space, as it takes forever to get rid of

cedar chasm
shell edge
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how long does it take you to sell it?

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CRU L5 has a refresh rate of 20 units pr minute, and max storage of 500 units

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across all servers

sharp latch
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Oh that’s BS.

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Do I have to stand there and wait while it “in-loads”

shell edge
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well, you can take a loss and sell it at the other location 🙂

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yes, every 10 minutes the stock updates

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or so

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but how much you get on the server depends a bit on the amount of supply and demand in the meantime on other servers

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so I cannot really reccommend drugs, even thought the profit margin is good pr trade, I think yoiu make more in the same time frame doing legal trade. With small ships like the aurora, I would rather do box missions than trading, and get enough money to rent a cutlass or a freelancer

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and then do some trading 🙂

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and be sure to rent the C2 hercules and the caterpillar this week

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also, do not trade scrap...there is no place to sell it atm

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as the scrapyards do not recognise ships landed there

hollow sedge
# cedar chasm could i trade in an aurora?

As @shell edge says box missions are better in the aurora.
First one is 3k then 8k I have seen somewhere these can go as high as 40k with enough rep but haven't seen it personally.
You can also do illegal monitoring missions which net 20k. Aurora's okay for those too, if you're looking to make money quickly.

cedar chasm
sharp latch
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The unauthorized surveillance missions under mercenary tab are quite good. Just be ready to hit “H” quite a bit. The com-array turrets are trigger happy

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Those things are definitely not supposed to be trying to shoot us down.

lavish nimbus
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Am I supposed to go somewhere else to sell them, or is this part of the game just bugged?

ruby moth
clever seal
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are the moons of microtech better for quant mining than lyria?

hollow sedge
# cedar chasm box missions? as in delivery?

The drop of location is the orange vending machine looking thing. Interact with the screen to drop of your box once it opens up.
It took me awhile to work that out when I first started playing

sharp latch
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That’s a good tip. Because that orange vending machine looking thing doesn’t look like it’s a thing that can be used.

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First time I seen it I was quite excited about it. Haha

prime solar
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Anyone know the refresh rates on Larinite?

crimson mantle
lavish nimbus
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Can I buy a Lancet mining head at Loreville?

crimson mantle
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Yes 😄

hollow sedge
craggy stone
# clever seal are the moons of microtech better for quant mining than lyria?

Well Aberdeen and Daymar should be the ones to go. For Aberdeen i would recommend you a Pembroke Armor. Otherwise you will suffer from overheating. Watch your body temperature. If it comes close to 38.5 degree prepare for a short stop in your ship. When in your ship to get rid of the temperature you need to take off your pembroke armor. Then it rapidly goes lower.

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But i saw not too much difference in drop rate between Aberdeen and Daymar. Daymar has the luxus of almost no weather influences and average temperature

lavish nimbus
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If I glitch out and die while inside my Prospector, will I lose the Lancet mining head I just bought? Or will it be there after I claim the ship, assuming I just died (but the ship didn't die)?

prime solar
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anyone know of another site like Erkul.games???

prime solar
lavish nimbus
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If I refine minerals in a job order that will produce more than 24 SCU of cargo space, will I still be able to load it into my Nomad (24 SCU max cargo size) bit by bit? Or will I have to buy a new ship before I can pick it up?

prime solar
lavish nimbus
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I just bought a Lancet mining head in Lorville. I then flew back to CRU-L1 (where my prospector is), and tried to equip it. However, in the Vehicle Loadout Manager, when I try to equip it, it says I only have the default Arbor mining laser.

Does this mean I have to fly back to Lorville in my prospector to equip the Lancet?

raw shell
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and yes, you have to equip the lancet, and modules where you buy it

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storage is kinda fucked up right now

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it's working.. just wasn't thought out really well.

lavish nimbus
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If I mine quantanium for dozens of hours, and save up enough UEC to BUY a new ship, how long do I get to keep it for? Will it just be taken away in the next patch?

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I bought a cutty black about 6 months ago and it's gone now

raw shell
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you keep it until the next wipe. The last one was last month. No telling when the next one will be but the one before the last one was over a year

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so anything goes.

lavish nimbus
crimson mantle
lavish nimbus
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Hmm I didnt see it at T&S but I'll look again

raw shell
crimson mantle
lavish nimbus
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Do you need to stay stocked up on food and water now while mining, or risk dying while searching for rocks?

crimson mantle
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Dehydration is a real thing if you are out for a long time

lavish nimbus
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Can you just log out in your ship, and then log back in? Will you be full on food/water then?

wraith jungle
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ship/bed logging is not recommended right now as it's got a few nasty bugs, as in you spawn without your ship (in space too), you get an infinite loading screen, et cetera, so I wouldn't risk it

raw shell
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I haven't had any problems ship logging since 3.15 came out. One instance of logging while landed on a planet, logged back in to the ship being inside the planet. No issues logging in space though.

wraith jungle
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I haven't tried it myself, due to the stories I've read, but supposedly people have spawned back in in space without their ship being anywhere to be seen

raw shell
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I've been ship logging almost daily, no infinite logon so far

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It's really been a nice change

north oyster
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Ship log probably falls into the "Russian Roulette" category

raw shell
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Like I said.. been ship logging almost daily since 3.15 came out.. one bad experience, landed.

north oyster
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Stairs are my bane right now, So I duck walk all the time now up and down them when running trade

hollow sedge
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Ngl I jump over them if possible, less likely to bug out that way

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Moon gravity is my savior

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Usually, at least

sharp latch
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So far 100% success. And I don’t log out anywhere else now.

wraith jungle
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I stand corrected if it's truly the case. and also good to hear!

sharp latch
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In 3.14 Id give up my left testicle before logging out in a bed.

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Now. I cuddle up with my little teddy bear and I’m good to go coming back in.

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It’s also faster to log in in your bed. No station or planet to load.

hollow sedge
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Im honestly impressed, I bed logged while in quantum (hit the wrong button but I digress) and it worked perfectly

sharp latch
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Tested that too!!!

hollow sedge
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Even the location I was at was accurate

raw shell
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wow, when you logged back in were you still in quantum?

hollow sedge
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No but my stuff remained

sharp latch
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Also a buddy of mine logs out in my ship. He waits for me to get back on before he logs in.

sharp latch
raw shell
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I was wondering if that would work now, permanent multi-crew ships

hollow sedge
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The location I was at while in quantum was the same though, as I was halfway to crusader when I came back, same as when I was in quantum

sharp latch
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If my bed isn’t in game then he spawns at last landed location.

hollow sedge
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That's actually really cool

sharp latch
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Also we don’t use the same bed.

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Haven’t had a problem with that either.

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In the future though, crew that logs in a ship can log back into that ship no matter who owns the ship.

craggy stone
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stairs already took 400k cost for me 😄

wraith jungle
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funny how bugs are distributed around inequally, never had any issue with stairs, and that's even though I sprint over most of them on 10 fps and haven't had any problems

sharp latch
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I’m goood with stairs too.

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Had an issue walking up my cargo bay in the MSR once, not sure what happened.

ancient fox
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So I bought scrap without knowing I cant sell them. How do I get rid of it?

coarse cape
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Stairs are fine for me

hollow sedge
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I can sell stims to microtech right?

coarse cape
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Ramps don’t like me tho

nocturne rain
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Hi! just died right after buying a lot of cargo, and spawnd far away. Do i have to get a buddy to drive me, or could i just take another spaceship and fly where the other ship are?

lavish nimbus
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Where is this place at New Babbage where you can rent ships for free?

lavish nimbus
humble magnet
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@lavish nimbuscheck out -iae - 2951 for aaaaaalllll the info

raw shell
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really loving this loaner constellation aq... I don't want to give it back

polar flame
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Anyone doing solo mole asteroid mining and not hating life?

dreamy crescent
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found all this stuff on a mission, after using QT everything but the yellow boxes dissapeared, then next QT the yellow boxes dissapeared. any tips on getting them to stay so i can sell them?

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raw shell
raw shell
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just harvested my first stand of quant where I needed a mole. Had to leave a lot behind on the ground

green light
polar flame
verbal cargo
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did they fix the outposts so it sees the ROCs inventory or do you still need to move the gems one by one out of the roc inventory?

lethal portal
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does they removed mining consumables?? Only modules from now on?

sudden dawn
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anyone have recommended build for the mole? im currently running all default except i subbed in a lancet for one laser.

fluid sun
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was the roc extraction laser fixed? i had all the gems swarm the arm but not go in

raw shell
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I put a helix on one of the others just in case I needed it

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I forget what quantum drive I had but I got the fastest one I could put in it. Also upgraded the shields

topaz loom
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do they have plans to make the ROC fit in the freelancers better?

raw shell
raw shell
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need advice, never tried this before. I have a decent sized quant rock but most of the visible parts are crap. Can I break those, extract them, then jettison them to clear my cargo then extract the quant?

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ok jettison cargo doesn't seem to even work

fluid sun
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ugh now the roc won't pick anything up

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some fudging around with it fixed it, idk what

raw shell
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I tried to just extract a little at a time, rather than vacuum around the whole pile at once

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also remember to repair your roc regularly or the cooler burns out

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that really sucks, especially when it's full

fluid sun
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first i've heard of that

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wow

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good to know thanks

raw shell
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really sucks after mining a couple of hours then the roc just dies. I normally mine, go sell, then fly to a ground spawn point to repair/respawn it to make sure it's repaired before going out again.

fluid sun
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do you not repair it like you do your ship in the mobi?

raw shell
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yeah same way, just pull the roc out at a ground spawn point, ask for landing, drive up on the pad, then you can repair like a ship. I usually did a store/respawn just to be safe

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cause it's a royal PITA if the cooler dies. You have to wait like 20 minutes for it to cool down, then pray it has enough juice to get it back into your ship before it dies again.

fluid sun
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hm i have done crazy stuff with the roc and never seemed to take damage or lose power or fuel or whatever

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im on a pad now and repair options are all red

raw shell
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might be all fixed but trust me, if you've been out a couple hours store it and call it back.

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None of the how-to videos mention this either.. had to figure this shit out after it happened for the 4th time.

fluid sun
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dang, well thanks, i'll keep an eye on things

raw shell
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np, if you figure out how to tell when the cooler is going to go, let me know. I couldn't figure that out for the life of me. I don't know who designed the UI for those ROC menu display panels but they really need to find a new job.

small remnant
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I cant find the secret terminal at CRU l5 the lockerroom is gone

surreal stone
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got a bunch of stims and meds - but the best places to sell are all full, any tips when this happens, IM in a full c2

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non of the tools seem to be accurate at all

hollow sedge
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Mining outposts always need neds

delicate girder
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I took a tiny Nomad load of drugs from Jumptown to GrimHex and it took me 2+ hours to unload it. Not doing that again for a while! I know I could have jumped around to sell it but I didn't want to.

surreal stone
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yup

delicate girder
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Even though the earning potential in 3.14/3.15 has bean nerfed all the way around from 3.13, I can still always make way more bounty hunting than trading. That's even in light of the bounty missions being intermittently bugged right now.

ruby saffron
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Does anyone know a good Org for mining?

delicate girder
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Message @crystal owl for a mining group.

ruby saffron
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thank you 🙂

crimson oak
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Soooo i rented a prospector for 24hrs, 6 days later i can still fly it.

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That's not.. normal is it?

crystal owl
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Happened to me as well

delicate girder
hollow sedge
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so ive been thinking about getting into trading as ive been told it is a generally easy way to get a lot of creds. how does it actually work though, and how many creds should initially invest into it? my buddy has a bigger cargo ship to carry stuff so i dont have to worry about that

covert spruce
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@hollow sedge i'm by far no expert on trading, but i waited until i had a hercules and about 600k, then i started on flourine trading. so far, so good. my biggest hurdle is LANDING my c2 hercules

real yew
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I lost my cargo twice, once 90k once 250k investment because I got stuck in outpost stairs.

covert spruce
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atm i'm relocating where i'm based out of so that i don't have to deal with starport landings as much

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yeah trading is risky

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still debating on where to relocate to

crimson oak
fluid sun
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pembroke is for heat, what is the suit for cold?

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novikov got it

real yew
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Anyone know when the re-designed Novikov suit will be added?

hollow sedge
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I thought it was with this patch but haven't seen it.

delicate girder
delicate girder
raw shell
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anyone solo quantanium mining in the MOLE these days?

blissful oxide
topaz drum
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@raw shell I stopped solo Mole in 3.14 when they botched/bugged scanning, went back to Prospector to use the Laser for scanning; getting 220k+ aUEC loads easily with no problems

raw shell
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even in 3.14 I was able to find groups of rocks to fill up a MOLE even with the screwed up scanning. I think I've seen maybe two that I could use a MOLE on in the past two weeks now. Was hoping others are having better luck

blissful oxide
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cause it's somewhat easy to fill/half-fill a Mole there

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One run is usually ~500k, up to 884k

raw shell
# blissful oxide Do you mine on Lyria ?

yes, actually that is where I spotted the two spawns where I had to leave some ore behind, because my prospector was full. I really wish they'd fix the bloody scanner. It makes mining so much more tedious and annoying. In the halo there are so many clusters and rocks that just don't scan and can't be mined.

blissful oxide
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what is the problem with the scanner ?

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So far I got no issue with mining on Lyria, and mined for ~4m in a week-end

glossy peak
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where is the best place to mine quant?

raw shell
# blissful oxide So far I got no issue with mining on Lyria, and mined for ~4m in a week-end

a couple of issues with scanning:

  1. Ship scanner - sometimes it will scan rocks that appear as "minable" many times they do not. In the Halo, it seems almost half don't scan that have the minable icon on them.
  2. Most of the time, if a rock can't be scanned with the ship scanner, it won't scan with the mining laser either. I've noticed on Lyria sometimes the mining laser scanner works when the ship scanner fails.
  3. The long range ship scanner no longer displays the mass of a far object (still in cube mode.) this seems to be as of 3.15
raw shell
glossy peak
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whats the halo?

blissful oxide
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Since 1: It doesn't happen on planetary
2: once you found a chunk, you can easily switch between mining mode/scanner mode
3: on lyria you only are looking for chunks, and not for mass

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I mean, 2 make it a bit more frustrable/harder
but we can still make a million per hour
which is by far more than any other job

raw shell
blissful oxide
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Interesting, I am experiencing issue "1." on Lyria. Actually most minable icon rocks don't scan with the ship scanner and I have to fly up to it to hit it with the mining laser. I wonder if it's a graphics issue just on my computer.
some rocks doesn't get the "yellow marker" easily, but if you move around the rock, you will get it (even in just scanning mode, no need to get down for mining mode)
I never found any rock on planetary that were completely unscanable

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On some you can't "finish" the scanning (I'd say it's desync issue)
but if you get to mining operator, it will show everything (can be fastidious, but working)

raw shell
# glossy peak whats the halo?

Aeron's Halo (sp?) is an asteroid belt circling the system. What you need to do is plot a course that crosses it and drop out of quantum at the right spot

There are several ways to do it but one I know by memory is from CRU L1, plot a course for ARC L3. When the distance gets to about 12.5 million cut quantum and you should be in the middle of the belt.

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The CRU L1 refinery has a quantanium yield bonus, btw.. which is why I usually base from there.

blissful oxide
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I prefer Lyria though, due to chunks being always quanta rocks

raw shell
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ah great link. I have those pictures saved but didn't remember the site I got them from

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I go to Lyria at night when I can focus on not crashing.. the Halo is good for a day full of meetings when being distracted for a few moments doesn't mean I crash my ship

vivid belfry
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Where can I see the charges left on a mining module?

north oyster
hollow sedge
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where do u sell illegal cargo?

north oyster
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Check SC Trade tools, but there are a few "ask no questions" terminals

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Grim might have one, not sure

crimson oak
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scrapyards usually have one

hollow sedge
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i need on that buys most things

raw shell
north oyster
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This issue was pretty bad about this time last year, then it got a little love and was cut by about 50%. At one time, mining in the belt was completely broken, now it has returned to the "mostly broken" in my opinion

raw shell
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ok good, it's not just me then. well not good but not some weird graphics thing unique to me

north oyster
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no, you'll probably notice a pattern - I think it is primarily a server issue. Some servers are pretty good about spawning usable icons that can be scanned, then other servers are just horrific and lag out and nothing scans.

blissful oxide
raw shell
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oh switching servers might improve this?

north oyster
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it has for me previously, I've not started mining yet on this patch

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Like Globy mentions, this issue is mostly asteroid issue, I rarely ever see it on planet side

raw shell
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thanks I'll try that. OH btw, thank you for that SPAL 12 tip! Very good luck there

north oyster
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Scanning is an issue planet side only as it relates to scanning being screwed up, but it is rarely the icon not being able to be scanned

blissful oxide
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I never got it on planet
Sometimes they don't want to in the first place, but after some rotation around it, it becomes possible
(on space I encountered many that never wanted to be scanable though. But never on land)

crimson oak
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main reason why i stick to lyria as well

glossy peak
craggy stone
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For my feeling server issues could be a legit reason for mining issues. As well ROC mining issues. Sometimes i need for 5 stones with the ROC 10 min. Sometimes i would need 30 min because the Laser is bugged or dont really starts to mine or the extractor dont want to take the stones. Then switching to the Laser makes it possible to extract which shouldn't be possible. Sometimes he take the hardanite to the mining head but dont take it to the cargo and then the stones start to fly around till they loose hold and they cover the floor.

But to be fair at the moment i wouldnt take any issues into account as we have the IAE running and yes a lot of people are online right now. Maybe more then usually dont know if there is any page to see how many players are actually online in total.

crimson oak
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my main problem with mining right now is how buggy it is to target rocks, you need to move your cursor over a particular part of the rock before it starts to scan it. Then at times it breaks the lock and it will need to scan the rock all over again, sometimes in the middle of mining it and it can cause you to overheat the rock. The ship scanner is pretty unreliable as well, often only the mining mode scanner will work, or the ship scanner works fine close range but will do nothing long range.

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its just been a lot more annoying ever since they introduced the new scanner rework

crimson oak
# craggy stone For my feeling server issues could be a legit reason for mining issues. As well ...

yeah a lot is server issues, you can see it in bounties as well, where they're taking over 10minutes to spawn in at times, or simply wont be highlighted with the mission objective so if you kill them too early it ends up bugging the whole mission and it never completes, even after killing it. Lots of teleporting around as well. It's not just free fly event causing all this, it was pretty bad before the event too. I can only assume they're just not dedicating enough server resources for the PU.

craggy stone
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For me before the expo I had really good times. But this was just when 3.14 came out. It was a charm mining with that patch but then with 3.15 and 3.15.1 it was getting worse. Don’t know if someone already tried but I will just for test make a fresh install of sc. because maybe it doesn’t help anymore too much to delete shading folder.

raw shell
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I opened an issue council item for the scanner and posted the link in #bug-hunt-chat if anyone wants to pile on.

lethal portal
#

is it true, that if you buy Surge or Brandt at, let's say, at Port Olisar, you can't equip those consumables at CRU L1? So when Surge is depleted, you have to fly to Olisar to refit it into slot?

prime solar
#

yea thats true but just move them into vehicle inventory and take them there

hollow sedge
#

where can I find Handanaite ?

lethal portal
#

ahh, i didn't thought that they are "physicalased" into inventory

#

that's save some pain in the ass i guess

#

on Daymar

#

Hadanite

prime solar
#

caves on Aberdeen

lethal portal
#

ROC-minables are visible as boxes from 1200 meters. Anything beyond that range is rocks for ships and you can disregard those pings

raw shell
#

the lancet head holds three modules so I load up 3 surges in PO and take them to cru l1.

lethal portal
#

and unequip them?

raw shell
#

yep just unload them in CRU L1 (or anywhere) and you can store them there

#

a bit of a pain but not much less annoying than modules in general.. running out while mining and you can't just replace it on the spot.

north oyster
lethal portal
#

all consumables are in inventory. So i hope i can load them onto Prospector or cargo ship at haul to CRU-L1

raw shell
#

yes you should be able to. I know the lancet head will hold three at least

#

just remember to empty it before you leave CRU L1

lethal portal
#

i don't mean Lancet head, i mean internal ship storage

raw shell
#

that's on your ship? I didn't know you could load them onto there

dense blade
#

Where can you buy the Lancet now?

lethal portal
#

size one at PO, at least

#

that's where i got one

dense blade
#

grrrr

#

so it's normal that there isn't a mining supply terminal at CRU L1 anymore?

#

I wish they left it alone

raw shell
#

yeah there is, in the refinery store. You have to scroll over at the top

#

that stumped me too

#

in the clothing terminal

lethal portal
#

Everything inside Prospector. Nice

unknown.png
dense blade
#

scroll over?

raw shell
#

yes at the menu across the top

glossy peak
#

where can u get the lancet mining laser, i cant find it as arc l1

lethal portal
#

at Port Olisar

#

Dumpers Depo

prime solar
#

Is there anyone in here willing to thoroughly explain trading to me? I have a C2, just dont know how to use it lol

north oyster
glossy peak
north oyster
#

Be sure to notice SIZE when buying ... don't do like me 😦

prime solar
lethal portal
#

the are Lancet MH1 and MH2

#

MH2 is for MOLE

north oyster
#

Yeah, it's easier than you think to buy the wrong size

lethal portal
#

true

#

i've seen a guy in the chat who bought like 5 of them, thinking they are bugged

north oyster
#

OUCH! but I could see that happening. That could've totally been me

crimson oak
#

thats funny

real yew
merry salmon
#

anyone know where to find "optimum" mining module?

languid current
#

Is Prospector mining still viable in 3.15 and if so how much could I expect to make doing it? Thinking of buying the ship

pliant slate
#

Is selling scrap still bugged?

raw shell
languid current
#

@raw shell I was going to trade my cutlass red for it actually, do you know whats the best to mine with it currently and how much you can make hourly tho doing it?

raw shell
#

I haven't figured out the hourly but in my opinion quantanium is the only thing worth the time to mess with. Hard to really figure an hourly rate when you have to factor in refinery time.

prime solar
#

Anyone wanna thoroughly explain trading to me?

pliant slate
#

@prime solar in a nutshell, you buy cargo at one location, then sell it at another for profit.

#

Things impacting your profits are mostly quantum and hydrogen fuel

#

so most people look at profit over time

#

if you can stand to make say 2 credits per unit, and you have 500 units on board, that's 1000 credits. If your flight time, landing and etc takes you a total of ten minutes for that run, then you make 6000 uec/hr

#

the math presented is HIGHLY simplified

lavish nimbus
#

I want to hand mine asteroids my ship but not sure how to EVA. Which suits or armor (or undersuits?) allow you to do EVA outside of your ship in space? I got out once in a flight suit and just drifted away to my death

pliant slate
#

where it gets more difficult is dealing with waiting for restock and what stations have what supply

#

Laranite is generally understood to be a very good commodity to trade, but there are only a few places to get it, and only two have decent quantities. HDMS Bezdek and HDMS Lathan on Arial can both stock up to 100,000 laranite, and are relatively close to Lorville, which buys laranite.

#

problem is that any cargo runner on the server is going to be making the same run. So you show up and if they're not already out of stock, they're very low.

#

so with trading, you want to try and calculate your percentage return on items. You can use sites like sc-trade.tools to figure out rough pricing and stock levels to at least have a ballpark figure to work from. For me, I generally try to get as much laranite as I can, then finish filling my ship or draining my wallet, whichever happens first, with whatever else has the highest percentage return.

pliant slate
languid current
#

So if I have a Prospector can I mine and cargo run the refined ore? Or do you need a seperate cargo ship to run it?

raw shell
#

well this week we're getting all kinds of free cargo ships. I've been hauling ore using them. I had planned on renting a freelancer max though if I accumulated refinery jobs and didn't have a free ship to use.

lavish nimbus
#

I was in an all-white one (forget the name) when I drifted away to my death

pliant slate
#

In my experience yes

languid current
raw shell
#

so it can hold maybe one of those?

#

sure you can do it but you'll be going back and forth

languid current
#

I'm new to mining

fluid sun
#

good questions, i want to know too

raw shell
#

I think you can store them indefinitely.. well.. until the next major patch release. Then they're wiped. Had that happen to me. That sucked. Lost like 7 jobs.

languid current
#

OK that's not bad, just bought the Prospector but then saw a video about refining. But if I can mine for a couple days and then wait till I have enough refined to rent a good hauler then thats not so bad

raw shell
#

if you are mining, you will make enough for a rental ship to be negligible in cost. Three refinery jobs can be close to a million credits

languid current
#

ooh damn

raw shell
#

800k-ish?

languid current
#

mining only a specific type of ore for that type of profit?

raw shell
#

yeah quantanium

#

renting a freelancer max is like 33k/day

languid current
#

ok cool that works then, thanks for the help!

raw shell
#

hold 120SCU I think?

native jewel
#

How is mining as far as making money just starting out?

raw shell
#

well you start out renting a prospector for 51k/day. You need to get a lancet mining head and I would suggest a surge, brandt, and stampede modules for it and learn how to use them.

#

Watch some youtube videos first on mining, it will help a lot

languid current
#

Don't you have to buy the Prospector tho to change out the mining head? Thought if it's rented you can't switch out part

raw shell
#

quantanium is kind of advanced, and scary, but not that hard to pick up.

#

well.. I do this. not sure if it's supposed to work like this but it works:

  1. rent the prospector
  2. go claim it at the terminal
  3. log out before the timer is up
  4. log back in and switch out the equipment
    5... most important.. take your purchased gear out of the rental before it expires. You have to know the time. Don't trust the system to warn you.
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the prospector is totally worthless by default

fluid sun
#
  1. don't log back in until that claim timer is done?
languid current
#

can I get buy just upgrading the mining head to the lancet for Quantanium would you say? Or do I have to upgrade more components to get it functional

sinful quail
#

can you suck up hadanite in a MOLE?

raw shell
sinful quail
#

unlucky

raw shell
#

it gets hard to break rocks over 5k without surge, depending on resistance and stuff

languid current
#

ok cause I'm broke currently, not even enough for the mining laser head lol. So just need the laser head and the components, not like upgrade my coolers or major stuff like that?

raw shell
#

nah you don't need that. You might want to practice on the arbor a bit too if you're brand new to mining. Getting used to the laser throttle can take a bit of time. Quantanium gives you just a tiny green part too. It's not forgiving.

#

arbor is the default mining head in the prospector

#

lancet makes that green part a little bigger

raw shell
merry salmon
#

So there are smaller nodes you will be able to mine with the default setup. and you can build up a good amount of work orders. when I started with the default I focused on bexalite, taranite, and agricium. and had my ship out fitted in a few hours

#

You can find them everywhere and they are in all of most of the smaller nodes. You can speed run them and make a lot of money fast

#

Go to daymar and start pounding away and you will be good to go

#

CRU L1 will give you the best bonuses on all of them for refining as well and it's close

raw shell
#

here I am pushing the new guy into end-game mining. Probably not the best 🙂 the most profit though!

merry salmon
#

baby steps

raw shell
#

yep, that's what I did. Started with agricium

#

wish you could still find those groups of 20%+ rocks... I'd still be mining agricium. That was fun

finite root
raw shell
brisk loom
#

Any way to sell scrap or do all scrap areas not recognize your vehicle?

obsidian stone
brisk loom
#

oof

slate solstice
#

What can you do with Decari Pods or similar?

sudden dawn
#

any recommendations on mining head for my prospector? not planning on doing any quant mining.

polar schooner
#

I took my prospector that was full to a refinery, when Im in the sell window it says my prospector is 64 scu instead of 32 and I can't sell

#

Tried loggin out, nothing works

polar schooner
sudden dawn
#

Thank you kind sir

paper forge
#

where do i buy mining heads at refinery centers? i dont see any terminal selling them anymore

merry salmon
#

when you are pointing at the top categories scroll your mouse and it will show the mining stuff @paper forge

native jewel
#

Hi guys, I need to make some money so Im going to attempt some hand mining. Would anyone like to tag along and die together?

crystal owl
#

any way to move a bulk amount of surge modules from Port Olisar to Arc L1?

languid current
#

anyone know where to get the lancet mining head, wiki is outdated

raw shell
#

I know its at cru L1, m

merry salmon
#

You can get the lancet at Port O as well

languid current
#

ty

faint swift
#

Scrap is broken right now?

crimson oak
crimson oak
faint swift
#

when will it be fixed?

#

do we know

crimson oak
#

tomorrow morning at 08:30

#

i've no idea dude

faint swift
#

lmao

crimson oak
#

Has anyone ever had a prospector go full unstable quant alarm and then blow up within 2minutes of extracting the quant into your cargo?

merry salmon
crimson oak
#

i tried mining another rock right after and it instantly exploded then

merry salmon
#

Yeh, when that happends you need to relog

crimson oak
#

O_o what would a relog do

#

they were some really juicy quant rocks too

merry salmon
#

Resets your game

#

Your game client was in an error state and needed a restart

crimson oak
#

i think ill do that tbh, i feel like some soup or something anyway

#

ya reckon there was something in my game client that caused my prospector to go unstable? that's really weirdly specific thing to happen though, seems really unlikely

merry salmon
#

Usually I do 3 runs restart and change servers and have a snack LUL

crimson oak
#

yeah i need to learn not to play SC too long as it does get progressively funkier the longer you play

#

i still seem to have a movie stream buffered in my computer memory evidently as well, that probably didnt help performance

raw shell
crimson oak
#

yeah i thought maybe my cargohold or power core got damaged without me noticing or something

pulsar pollen
#

So, I look for trade alerts and from what I gather you are supposed to buy at overstocked places and sell to understocked places. Here is the challenge though so far. I just bought a Freelancer and the cargo bay seems to hold far more cargo than what any one station is willing to buy even if they are listed as understocked. The end result is I sit for days with a half full cargo bay of items I can't sell. Is this normal?

crimson oak
#

yep

#

if you wanna make money from trading id avoid those commodities though

pulsar pollen
#

That's unfortunate. I'm regretting dropping the money on the Freelancer then.

#

I tried an online tool and it was not useful at all for trading.

crimson oak
#

yeah honestly if you want something for cargo you're better off saving up more for the m2

#

yeah the websites can be useful as a guide but they're rarely up to date

pulsar pollen
#

For more cargo space to put stuff I can't even sell. I'm confused?

crimson oak
#

you generally just learn good routes from experience, trading changes patch to patch

#

the way things work now every server is linked economy wise

#

so if something is popular you'll have a hard time buying or selling it, so the trick is finding something with value thats not as popular or at a location that's not as popular

#

or just finding the right time of day to do it

pulsar pollen
#

Its not too encouraging for a new player then. Just as an observation.

#

I mean I dropped 50k and can't sell any of the cargo. I try again tomorrow I guess.

toxic snow
#

is there a list of the trade nodes that aren't working rn?

crimson oak
#

some people still swear by it though

#

i tried building my own database with a google sheet, mapped the arccorp planet and moons of every outpost, items and prices. Took forever to do it and in the end i still made far more money doing literally anything else in the game. Trading is just something else to do, i wouldn't take it seriously.

pulsar pollen
#

hmm yeah then its something they certainly should address as a mechanic. Some folks aren't interested in the combat dynamics at all.

#

I mean. I do engage in the teamwork stuff but at a whole, I'm more transport, shuttle, investigate etc.

coarse cape
#

check dms when you can^

#

should help you out cheriesmug

hollow sedge
edgy shadow
#

my mining partner had that happen tonight but it was in 30 seconds of starting to extract.

pale crane
humble magnet
toxic adder
humble magnet
#

@paper forge you have the mining shop terminal open : if you hold the mouse pointer on the shop catégories at top then scroll your wheel, it will reveal the other categories like mining heads ..etc

paper forge
paper forge
pliant matrix
#

Any chance they fix mining scan anytime soon? I miss rock searching and mining. Vrooming and jumping in Roc is much fun

pale crane
raw shell
# pliant matrix Any chance they fix mining scan anytime soon? I miss rock searching and mining. ...

pile on the issues thread. Hopefully it will get enough mass to draw CIG's attention to fix it:

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-24866

Star Citizen - Issue Council
Star Citizen - Log in or Sign up

Create an account or log into Star Citizen. Track bugs on our Issue Council and vote on other entries to help our developer team identify what to work on next.

#

If I read that issues council note correctly, it needs 5 more contributions before they even register it as an issue

prime oyster
#

What website do you guys use for cargo?

#

for routes etc

daring belfry
#

I bought better quantum drive for my prospector but now it says no power when I'm trying to use qt, do I have to upgrade my power plant also?

prime oyster
daring belfry
#

sorry I don't understand what that means 😄

prime oyster
daring belfry
#

ok I will try to figure it out, thank you

prime oyster
pliant matrix
pale crane
#

Not for the sell/buy prices because they fluctuate, but mostly for where you can buy and sell things.

prime oyster
upper phoenix
#

I'm a little confused by mining prices. I know the minerals like corundum aren't worth much, but I'm refining some just because it was an easy way to test out the mining gameloop, but it looks like it won't even cover the cost of refining? Is that right?

crimson mantle
#

Rule of thumb is double what you would get selling the raw stuff

agile hound
#

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coarse cape
faint swift
#

I have a freelancer right now, what should my next upgrade be?

verbal cargo
#

best place to roc mine?

agile hound
#

@verbal cargo Aberdeen if you have the patience for hot weather

verbal cargo
agile hound
#

you might be going to fast do you have your radar set to 180 degrees? how high are you?

verbal cargo
#

about 500m off the ground, going about 55

thin escarp
#

anyone looking to get into mining i'm gonna take my mole out here ina bit. i'll pay after each run too.

random hamlet
#

Anyone here looking to join a four man crew for freighting?

lyric nest
random hamlet
#

Depends on how well we do

willow tiger
#

can you change the head of a rented prospector yet?

upper phoenix
#

@crimson mantle I understand what was going on now, didn't realize mining price info was by unit not by SCU. Made an alright profit.

north oyster
willow tiger
#

I thought I remembered as much a patch or 2 ago. But I didn't think it was a "fix" so much as they would give it back later..

north oyster
#

The Prospector rental is more for training than earning profit

north oyster
#

All previous methods of changing out the laser were player found methods

raw shell
north oyster
#

I think they stopped any changing out the laser head back in 3.13 (guessing)

raw shell
#

oh gotcha, ok good

crimson oak
crystal owl
#

I need a build for prospector to solo mine quant

frozen moss
#

Haven’t run cargo since iae started have they fixed where your ship with its cargo goes straight to claim and you lose your cargo

stoic mirage
#

where is the best place for ROC mining rn?

civic bronze
#

does cargo save in my ship if i log out?

bright star
#

Yes

#

It should

native jewel
#

Hello. I have a cutlass black right now with 46 SCU of storage. I've been trying to get into cargo transport, however even with my small 46 scu I am barely finding routes that provide enough resource to fill that...let alone in a larger ship? Ive waited 15--20 minutes at outposts with no restock, and often when you do get a load the shop buying it is "Full". Is hauling not supposed to be a profession or is there something im missing?

sonic laurel
#

Diversify your haul

#

Not to mention this is IAE. Everyone can easily have haulers and make a bunch of quick money.

native jewel
#

Im using the online guides and website/calcs. Did they limited the amount of material outposts have or something? They guides are saying "buy 5,000 units of this" but I get there and the outposts only have 400

sonic laurel
#

So the market is squeezed

native jewel
#

oh ok, with the expo

sonic laurel
#

Yep

#

Everyone is doing it

#

Trading will be a hard profession which requires a ton of work.

#

Hauling will likely be easier but less profitable

native jewel
#

What do you do if an outpost doesnt recognize your ship?

#

Theres no landing pad here

sonic laurel
#

Land next to it

native jewel
#

I did

#

but when I go to the terminal my ship istn selectable

sonic laurel
#

Is your ship in the armistice zone

native jewel
#

the outpost is a little house...thats it

#

My ship is parked right next to it

#

Like it cant get closer...and I even tried parking farther away..nada

sonic laurel
#

Might be a bug. Which outpost?

native jewel
#

Orphanage

sonic laurel
#

Qt away and back

native jewel
#

nope

#

didnt fix it

sonic laurel
#

then it's glitched

thin escarp
#

@north oyster if you claim a rented prospector. log out until the claim is done wthout expediting

#

you can change the laser

sage kernel
#

can you use a medpen on someone else?

delicate girder
rose root
#

Guys what's the cold suit for yela etc again?

delicate girder
#

Novakov

#

Or something like that

blissful oxide
#

Lyria
Go straight full speed, once you find a chunk of multiple rocks
there you go, you just discovered a bunch of quanta rocks 🙂

topaz plover
#

the belt l1 or l3 are best areas i found

#

l1 being my fav

topaz plover
plush coral
#

is it profitable to rent a prospecter?

pallid temple
blissful oxide
plush coral
#

oh

#

so its a lost everytime i rent it

#

thats sad

blissful oxide
#

No, I mean, you can make some money, but having a real one will allow you to farm 10-20x more, in an easier way, for the same amount of time

plush coral
#

ah

#

its about 70k to rent it right?

#

if i get a decent load of rocks and refine it its at least about 60k/32scu?

pallid temple
#

41k to rent a Prospector

plush coral
#

oh

#

thats even better

pallid temple
#

And the refining process isn't 1:1, you won't get 32SCU of refined commodity from 32SCU of ore

plush coral
#

oh i see

#

do i have to buy any mining tools?

#

like the laser etc.

#

or its all provided in the prospecter

rose root
topaz plover
#

but yesterday was told belts extremely lucrative right now by l1 guy made 400k plus in one run some how outa pure luck i think lol

blissful oxide
#

Lyria is the easiest place to find quanta, and the more reliable
It also has the bigger rocks (8200+ mass with up to 50% rocks)
No asteroid scan bug
Chunks are up to 10 (maybe more)

topaz plover
#

@blissful oxide err what hemisphere lol haha its a large planetoid lol dm me
some details ill give it a go when i log back in later today

blissful oxide
topaz plover
#

copy that @blissful oxide and thanks alot since tradeing glitched beyond repaire right now i struggling make credits mining lol

blissful oxide
#

Always use Lancet, and get Surge + Optimium + Stampede
so that you can solo the biggest rocks 😄

rose root
blissful oxide
#

Yeah Roc mining is hard atm
kinda sad, it was a really cool experience

plush coral
#

what laser do i have to buy to mine everything?

#

rented a prospecter but i cant mine any good rocks

rose root
blissful oxide
blissful oxide
rose root
#

Ohhh?? I scan and scan and can never find them..

blissful oxide
#

yeah, but the distance to detect them is very low
it's under 1km now
it used to be 2-3x this I think

rose root
blissful oxide
#

not to slow either
The best would be to ping every 2km
to cover the best range
and stop when you find new signal under 1km

frozen moss
#

Haven’t run cargo since iae started have they fixed where your ship with its cargo goes straight to claim and you lose your cargo

rose root
#

Ohhh. Set to 180 degrees and ping away thanks @blissful oxide :)

blissful oxide
north oyster
crimson oak
#

until they fix it again anyway

blissful oxide
#

ah possible, does it work reliably though ?

crimson oak
#

well i only needed to use it once

#

so i can only judge from my own attempt

#

but presumably the person who gave me the tip also was successful

strange crypt
#

could I borrow someone for a bit? I'm new, trying to learn how to begin mining, flew to a Mic1, no clue what I'm doing and getting frustrated

ivory vault
#

hello

#

i bought enough food to fill my cutlass black from some farm but none of it is inmy cargo hold yet, how long does that take?

crimson oak
#

you gotta manually transfer items from the stations inventory to your ships inventory

#

if you press "I" for inventory while docked on a station pad and still in your ship, you'll be able to drag and drop stuff from the station invent to the ships invent

ivory vault
#

theres no pad it sjust a farm

#

at least i dont see one

#

so i should go into my ship to do it

crimson oak
#

i think maybe i got the wrong idea about your issue

#

you were buying a commodity was it? for trading?

#

it should have been pretty instant if thats the case

ivory vault
#

yes i bought processed food

#

but none of it is there its been idk maybe 10 mins

crimson oak
#

how do you know its not there

ivory vault
#

my cargo hold is empty

#

but the trading console inside the farm says its full

crimson oak
#

like visually?

ivory vault
#

yes

#

does that not matter

crimson oak
#

it doesnt always fill up visually

ivory vault
#

oh ok

crimson oak
#

but it might be still there

#

if the terminal says the food is there then the food is there

#

only way to be sure really is when going to sell it

ivory vault
#

ill give it a shot, thanks

vivid belfry
#

Hi all. I am wondering if the mole I rent later today will be able to mine quantanium since you cannot change the heads, right?

crimson oak
#

not officially no

#

the default heads will have a hard time

thin escarp
#

@north oyster u must stay logged out during the claim timer.

#

then log in once that times off

#

rental timer is gone from terminal and then your able to edit

vivid belfry
#

@thin escarp What's this about editing rentals?

thin escarp
#

@vivid belfry basically. rent a prospector. fly to another station. claim it. log off until Claim timer "don't expedite" expires. when you log back in rental timer is now gone. you can edit the ship.

vivid belfry
#

@thin escarp Neat! Does that work on all ships or just a prospector?

rapid wing
#

Can a RocDS fit in a Constellation...like a Pheonix?

stable gazelle
#

Sorry if this has been asked already but is there a way to dim the mining hud in the prospector?

hallow swallow
stable gazelle
frail roost
#

So how's the RAFT fly?

#

Anyone got their hands on one yet?

blissful oxide
subtle gazelle
#

what can you mine with the default mole heads?

blissful oxide
subtle gazelle
#

best place to mess around with it?

#

probably wont be able to get quant right

hallow swallow
#

thank god my ship stored away safely and i could sell the quant. I just had to fly back all the way from port tressler.

gray remnant
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how much is the 30 days rental for prospector?

oblique stone
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Any mining Group?

subtle gazelle
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is scanning surface rocks with the MOLE busted?

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like 1/4 will scan normally

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some just never scan even after reorienting, closing distance, turning scan off/on etc

oblique stone
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Where to find mining team?

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is this right place?

blissful geode
#

What modules should I use with my lancet if I just want to use passive ones?

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For Prospector

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can you use multiple of the same one? or do they not stack?

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should I just stack 3 fltr-xls?

blissful oxide
crimson oak
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if you just wanna use passive i sometimes use torrent

hollow sedge
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hows the trade

delicate girder
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Guys, you do still loose those modules when you claim or get destroyed right?

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You did in 3.14.

frail roost
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It sucks.

blissful geode
#

Is that intended? Or a bug?

frail roost
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No idea.

hollow sedge
#

Hey can someone shortly explain me SC Trading Tool ?

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To my understanding this HDMS has enough Laranite to fill my RAFT.
Now im here and it hasnt got enough Laranite.
Am I understanding the Picture wrong or is the Site wrong ?

blissful geode
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It gains 1369 Laranite per minute. It's likely someone already hit that spot and bought all the Laranite there

hollow sedge
blissful geode
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The line below where it says "Buy 9,200 Laranite"

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in grey text

hollow sedge
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ahhhh there okay thank you 🙂

blissful geode
frail roost
# 
B: How much is added to storage per minute, UP TO A.
C: The absolute maximum the location will hold/buy from an empty inventory
D: How much the location uses from storage per minute, down to 0
E: Click this to open a list of other stuff you can buy at left station to sell at right
F: Shows a route that minimizes time flying empty```
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delicate girder
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Don't have nearly enough money to fill a C2 with Laranite!!!!

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Even if I could find enough.

frail roost
blissful oxide
blissful geode
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How can I find good spots for quantanium mining myself? Or do I just need to look up where others have said to go?

blissful oxide
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by far the best place atm

blissful geode
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okay, ty

blissful oxide
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just go straight and stop once you find a chunk of rocks

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it will be quanta rocks

hollow sedge
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whats the trade meta rn around micro?

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i have a c2

sonic laurel
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the raft looks badass but I'm ngl. I wish it wasn't a minor hauler.

frail roost
hollow sedge
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thanks

blissful oxide
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his major advantage isn't there yet though
waiting for 3.18

hollow sedge
sonic laurel
hollow sedge
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so i make like 60k a run

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buy for 7 sell for 9

frail roost
hollow sedge
#

oh nice

frail roost
#

Unless you're starting from Broke.

hollow sedge
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havent traded since 3.9 LOL

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nah ive been grinding bounties

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400k to fill up?

frail roost
#

Man... Infinite laranite bug with a C2... 🤤

frail roost
dusky cave
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Sup everyone. So MOLE or PRospector as my first mining ship. Usually solo or 2 MAYBE 3 crew on rare occasions

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Trading isnt really my thing right now with it being broken regarding drug trades

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SO im left with a $100 ship to upgrade

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Anyone care to help me out/

sonic laurel
dusky cave
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Im about half my time solo

sonic laurel
dusky cave
#

is it slower than a prospector though after a few hours? with that time to switch seats

sonic laurel
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it's hard to quantify because of the much larger capacity saving you taking off, Qt'ing, flying, landing, refining 3 times to your one

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so overall it's faster

dusky cave
#

It has the fast XL1 too

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Reddit people on my post are telling me prospector xD

sonic laurel
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it's more annoying to mine with but more per hour

dusky cave
#

Now the next question

sonic laurel
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plus you'll never be leaving a ton of minerals on the ground

dusky cave
#

IF I operate with 2 people and split the profits 50/50 then that total profit per player might be lower than a prospector?

sonic laurel
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no

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the per hour goes up

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prospy is easier but the mole is more profitable

dusky cave
#

Ok, that 50/50 solo vs 2 crew might be shifting towars 80/20 with 80 percent of my time being two crew

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Welp. Ill ignore reddit xD

sonic laurel
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I'm in a server for mole owners and people who want to jump on and mine

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you just need a network

dusky cave
#

Do I "need" one? Or can I just go on my own with a buddy and be just as profitablew

sonic laurel
#

it's just faster to fill empty seats

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a MOLE with 4 crew is one fast mofo

dusky cave
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But everythings split so per player profit less

sonic laurel
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no

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your per hour goes up

dusky cave
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Unless youre going so fast it doesnt matter

blissful geode
#

is more than 2 people more profitable? Seems like 1 or 2 people would be doing almost nothing most of the time

sonic laurel
#

2 people is ideal right now

dusky cave
#

Sounds good

sonic laurel
#

a full crew will be ideal later

blissful geode
#

Gotcha

dusky cave
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Well how much later? I dont want to get burned dropping the $$

sonic laurel
#

when they get around to balancing all gameplay loops

blissful geode
#

And you're not locked in to it, since you can just melt it for something else

sonic laurel
#

^

dusky cave
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Sounds good, Ill find a mining guide on where to go and whatnot so im not asking you a million more questions

sonic laurel
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I'm just trying to stop myself buying a RAFT right now

blissful geode
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I don't see the point of a raft, but that might just be because I already have a Taurus

dusky cave
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Yeah i FINALLY got the taurus and thats my main cargo girl

sonic laurel
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also looks way cooler

dusky cave
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Really?? I love the connies looks haha

sonic laurel
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but it seems the benefit comes in load and unload times

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right now trading is a magic button

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but eventually it will be a multi-step and detailed process

dusky cave
#

Right, I think the connie will shine with the tractor beam soon

blissful geode
#

That's fair, once trading is fleshed out raft might be more attractive

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It also has a giant QT tank

sonic laurel
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The raft will be the ultimate mid-level hauler in terms of how fast you can run things

dusky cave
#

Putting an XL1 on the connie is clutch

blissful geode
#

27k fuel compared to taurus' 3k fuel

sonic laurel
#

I like the crossfield myself

blissful geode
#

with 27k fuel though no reason not to use xl1

sonic laurel
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But if I'm being honest I fly a Nomad and make money doing FPS missions

blissful geode
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I guess fuel efficiency consideration

dusky cave
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I fly the big gatling gun Ion for those

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BRRRRRRTTTT

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DED

blissful geode
#

Inferno?

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Ion's the laser cannon 🙂

sonic laurel
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well remember with quantum some places might have sky-high QT fuel costs

dusky cave
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YEah my bad lol

sonic laurel
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and we're likely getting that system before the end of next year

blissful geode
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Yeah

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I heard it's gonna be like 10x Stanton size

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with huge amounts of space between locations

sonic laurel
dusky cave
#

Oh okay

sonic laurel
#

Also there is a piracy consideration. the RAFT will be super fast at taking a nice chunk of cargo

dusky cave
#

WHere do you all go to mine the most?

sonic laurel
#

but if you are solo mole you'll be mining about 65-70SCU minerals before filling the rest with Quant

dusky cave
#

Solo tonight yea

sonic laurel
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I did a two-man MOLE on Lyria and with 30SCU of quant and the rest things like Laranite the refined value was about 250k for each of us from the run.

reef narwhal
#

Does anyone know if you can actually haul cargo in the Raft, like a normal cargo runner?

sonic laurel
reef narwhal
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Sweet ty

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100% yea? Not just a guess?

sonic laurel
blissful geode
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It's listed as having cargo capacity, why wouldn't it?

reef narwhal
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Ok sweet. Just confused as the container module isn't active and the gameplay for moving containers hasn't been implemented and am keen to melt and upgrade, but if it can't haul cargo yet there's no point, except that it looks cool

sonic laurel
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so it just fills the space with those containers

reef narwhal
#

so you haven't actually filled a Raft with cargo from a terminal?

blissful geode
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Are there any ships listed as having cargo space that you can't do that with?

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Also, you can just rent one for free from the expo

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and test it

reef narwhal
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true

blissful geode
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I have not tried it personally

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I would also be very surprised if it didn't work though

reef narwhal
#

same but I want to know for sure before I melt-upgrade

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Only a 10 hour work shift is preventing this

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Maybe I should just be more patient 😆

blissful geode
#

haha I know the feeling

hollow sedge
crimson oak
sonic laurel
reef narwhal
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Perfect @crimson oak thanks. That's exactly what I want to use it for

crimson oak
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i fly solo and mine quant specifically so i find the prospector more efficient and practical.

thin escarp
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@sonic laurel mole life is the best life

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😄

sonic laurel
dusky cave
sonic laurel
# dusky cave Where on Lryia?

in the flat areas in the first 5kms around mountains. I think SPAL-12 is located around tons of mountains. Remember if you see 2+ rocks together 99% of the time it's quant

crimson oak
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anywhere really

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specific spots on lyria i find all anecdotal, i havent noticed any real difference between areas of the place

sonic laurel
crimson oak
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i heard that said a few times but ive never noticed any patterns

balmy knot
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how do you get to the other mining heads on a mole?

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There is one under the pilot

hollow sedge
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mobiglass

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should be laser #2

frail roost
blissful geode
#

Is there any way to make my UI less fuzzy? I can't see the progress while mining in a bright area

frail roost
blissful geode
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😦 lol

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also why are rocks so finnicky to find a spot you can actually laser?

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like more than half the surface of the rock if I point at it it doesn't register 😦

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and my mining modules are gone....

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sigh

thin escarp
blissful geode
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Thanks, that is useful

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How do I find asteroid fields for quant mining?

crimson oak
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I like lyria or aarons halo

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for aarons halo make a waypoint from Arc L1 to Hur L5 and exit quantum at 8.7m km, there are many other ways into aarons halo but thats the one i use.

blissful geode
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Thanks

steep dawn
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looking to learn to mine, i have a mole but cant figure out how to use it would love to join someone else and learn the ropes

blissful geode
#

am I on a messed up server or is mining in the prospector just broken right now? My laser isn't scanning any rocks and neither is my scanner, even though I'm only 100m away

steep dawn
#

i was having same issues seemed like a fruitless endeavor, went through a few guides and had no luck in figuring anything out.

crimson oak
#

ya get that a lot asteroid mining, its a bit better on land

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its just one of many kinda broken things about this patch though, you get used to it and can make it work

blissful geode
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I changed servers and it's working better

subtle cradle
#

Where are people ROC mining now? I've had minimal luck on aberdeen Anderson and arial Bezdek
Please @ me when answering or I might miss your help

subtle gazelle
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@subtle cradle aberdeen is the best for me, lots of hadanite and they dont tend to spawn inside larger terrain rocks

subtle cradle
blissful geode
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Jesus this game does not want me mining today

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I put away the prospector and grinded some more money with bounties, now I'm trying to buy the mining lasers for my MOLE.. Took it over to NB and tried to land, ATC said it gave me a landing hangar, but it never gave me a marker. So I relogged in my ship... and it spawned me in my ship in the middle of the "sun"

blissful geode
#

why is my mole drifting backwards... >_<

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and I can't scan rocks from the drivers seat

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omg

thin escarp
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@blissful geode i got a seat on my mole

blissful geode
#

trying to learn how to solo with it, I appreciate the offer though

ripe thorn
#

Can someone explain what's the pro's and cons of using Helix I vs Lancet MH1 Mining lazers?
For the purpose of mining quantanium.

delicate girder
#

Anyone ever tried landing thier big cargo ship right outside the dome (where you can enter the commons) in NB and selling from it that way? Does it work?

humble magnet
#

@ripe thornMore power with Helix, you can mine bigger rocks but blow up with your ship more easy as it is harder to control or back out from any overcharge...as I did last night.....big badabooom !

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Lancet is more limited to smaller rocks as it has less power so u need to find the more rare and higher percentage Quantanium in a small rock of max 4000 -5000 mass

blissful geode
#

Or use modules with the Lancet to be able to break bigger Quant rocks

toxic parrot
#

is there a cooldown/refresh rate in Admin in Grim Hex?

ivory vault
#

IAE rolls over to Drake stuff at 11am?

floral willow
#

There's also a bot in here, but I forget the command

crimson oak
#

quant rocks usually give you a very small optimal charge window and are usually high in resistance and instability. So while Helix heads generally are more powerful, those buffs against resistance and instability with the lancet make it superior.

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Helix is fantastic for other types of minerals though like Bexalite, Taranite, Borase, Laranite, Agricium etc.

flint oracle
#

Does anybody know the dimensions of the 32 SCU cargo containers?

delicate girder
#

If you are mining with a Mole you want one Helix and two Lancets. It will be interesting to see how that changes with the new mining stuff which is coming.

cedar flower
#

Argo RAFT could be alot better designed for cargo space

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cedar flower
flint oracle
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Sounds about right, yeah.

sinful quiver
#

I got an Issue with my ROC or my controls, I have no idea how to fix, When i get in the ROC and enter mining mode the ARM doesn't move with my mouse, all I can do is move it a little side to side with A and D, ayone have any help ???

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My son tried it and it works fine on his install.

hollow sedge
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can u move those cargo/crane arms ??

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hallow swallow
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when future gameplay is implemented those are useable

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it's static for the time being

hollow sedge
#

ok thx°

north oyster
hollow sedge
left fox
#

Any way to get around this scanning issue im having? i feel like over half of the rocks i find can't be scanned.

pliant matrix
#

get in line it's just how scans are now and it sucks a lot xD

manic whale
crimson oak
tawdry crypt
#

best place to sell hadanite after a roc mining mission?

crimson oak
#

the closest outpost

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usually on the same moon you mine it on

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xx mining outpost or whatever

gleaming quest
#

So I'm test flying the Argo Mole and I just came across a beautiful rock, 41% quantanium, 7.34 instability. I noticed that I can't seem to get the charge level high enough, even with laser intensity maxed out. Is this just a shortcoming of the stock mining laser, or am I doing something wrong?

crimson oak
#

whats the mass of the rock

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and resistance

gleaming quest
#

4.6k, resistance is .89

crimson oak
#

instability just means it will be less controllable, like charging up and down super fast

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thats a fairly high resist, mass is ok for lancet head, are you using a rental prospector with the arbor head i assume?

gleaming quest
#

No, I'm using the MOLE from IAE

crimson oak
#

what mining head?

gleaming quest
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Since it's a rental I can't change the head

crimson oak
#

ah well then yeah it will be very tough

gleaming quest
#

Helix II

crimson oak
#

oh if its a helix you might just get it, but they're not great for quant, especially high resist rock like that

gleaming quest
#

Yeah I don't think I will

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I'm barely getting a fifth of the way to the optimal level after holding down m1 with 100% intensity

crimson oak
#

you should probably aim for bexalite, laranite, taranite, borase, agricium etc

gleaming quest
#

ok

crimson oak
#

thats what the helix would be best at

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it think 4k mass or under is probably the only quant rocks you'll break

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depending how patient you are, some rocks if you get it just right, will rise up very slowly

gleaming quest
#

yeah

crimson oak
#

in wouldnt waste your time though, especially in a mole and with helix, better off going for other ores

gleaming quest
#

Yeah I'll just look for smaller yield ores

pliant matrix
#

so? what is the thing to detect roc mineable? fly low and slow? I'll give it a try because farming bounties is like 😵‍💫 🔫

thin escarp
#

fly super low.

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you can always jump in my mole i always need crew 😄

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@north oyster some day i'ma convince you to join one of my saturday mining ops

pliant matrix
#

Only been once in a mole. dude paid me 50k for 1:30 hours job. not worth it anymore xD

thin escarp
#

@pliant matrix you got scammed.

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my mole runs are 600-650k a run in around 25 minutes.

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split 4-5 ways max

pliant matrix
#

I was a young innocent noob xD

thin escarp
#

happens

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if it was ages ago it makes sense.

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but i run a great system

pliant matrix
#

tbh I didn't used a mining ship since they put this consumable things

glacial verge
#

Anyone know where the Lancet MH1 mining laser is being sold now? It's not a HUR L1 or L2

gray remnant
#

if you want worker im available @thin escarp

mental pond
#

Can’t seem to jump out of Q into the halo…. The usual distances have just put me into empty space 😭

north oyster
still valley
#

I own the MSR and Arrow. Should I skip ROC mining for now (heard it's pretty scuffed for 3.15.1) and get a Prospector? I'm targeting an M2, but if I can make more money with the Prosp in the interim I may as well.

pliant matrix
#

took me an hour to find and "try" to mine 4 hadanite rocks. since it wouldn't gather I only left with 8cSCU and made 22k... tells you how roc mining is atm

still valley
#

Yikes.

delicate girder
#

Is ship mining any better? In 3.14 there were so many unscanable rocks in asteroid belts. Would be nice if there were fewer of those.

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3.13 is still the best release I've seen in a long time for all over goodness. In my book, all this release has going for it is a bit of long needed performance boost. The inventory system will be nice eventually.

mental scroll
#

Does anyone know the current state of trade in 3.15.1? I heard Hurston will store your ship and eat your cargo, same everywhere or is it just Hurston that isn't safe for trade right now?

rocky veldt
#

hello i have a question what should i use for boxalite mining and where should i go

still valley
#

Bop in Bexalite (Raw) in the Commodity box.

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It'll tell you where it's found.

rocky veldt
#

but what head should i use

still valley
rocky veldt
#

thanks

still valley
#

Np

thin escarp
#

ship mining is where the money is rn

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since roc mining is kinda scuffed

still valley
#

I concur.

thin escarp
#

ive turned in 25 mil in refinery orders since 3.15 hit.

rocky veldt
#

ho and also what should i do to earn enough for a prospector

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i only have a cutlas black right now

still valley
still valley
thin escarp
#

i run some pretty massive mining operations xenos 😛

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before 3.15 hit my org mined 5+ billion in auec

still valley
#

That's dank.

thin escarp
#

if you want in on that shoot me a dm 😄

rocky veldt
still valley
#

Yes, it is a very capable medium fighter / multirole

still valley
thin escarp
#

each person gets a equal cut of each run the crew they are on does.

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a run is usually 550k-700k every 25-30 minutes.