industrial-professions

[raw shell]

yep, I roll about 60mps and 100m above the surface

[unkempt spoke]

Scrap is completely bugged don't buy it you can't sell it

[worldly vector]

Yea gem scanning bugged so we won't see them unless almost on top of them

[unkempt spoke]

I'm completely boned until they fix scrap 🤷‍♂️

either that or loose out on 100k

[raw shell]

I suspect it's working as designed. CIG is systematically eliminating methods of acquiring wealth.

[sharp latch]

Lorville lost my ship with 90kUEC worth of titanium.

[blissful oxide]

go to his orbital station

you can retrieve your ship there

[raw shell]

I would be very interested to know if that works, and the cargo is recovered

[blissful oxide]

As in Orison, your ship can be retrieve in both Orison and PO

but dunno why, Lorville specifically doesn't work sometimes, but his station do

[devout comet]

How do you do cargo trading how do you know what to buy?

And where do you sell it to?

[blissful oxide]

I usually use this tool
it helps alot
https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

[sharp latch]

Already claimed the ship. Lost the cargo. Didn’t know I could’ve flown up there.

[split anchor]

Newb here. I went on a search mission in a mine and I ran into someone. They had their gun trained on me so I fragged them. Then 3 more came and I killed another. The others took cover and we exchanged fire but then I couldn’t figure out how to reload and I booked out. I couldn’t tell if they were NPCS so I decided to go back to check them out. They started firing and I bounced. No crimestat so far. In detected area tho.

[sharp latch]

I’ll do that next time for sure. It was a hard pill to swallow, losing my first 90k

[blissful oxide]

yeah :/

[split anchor]

What the hell happened is what I am wondering

[blissful oxide]

Don't go to Grim Hex, it does the same and I didn't find any way to retrieve yet

[raw shell]

@sharp latch what kind of cargo ship do you use?

[sharp latch]

A MSR.

[muted vault]

Thank you! Just grabbed myself a ROC solo 👌

[sharp latch]

It’s the biggest ship I got, it’s pledged so just trying to work up to larger cargo ships.

[raw shell]

nice

[sharp latch]

If you fired first and made a kill, unless the player already had a crime stat you were killing NPCs.

[raw shell]

that's a good sized ship for cargo

[sharp latch]

It’s my daily driver since I’ve had it. It does everything decently.

[raw shell]

I had one pre-wipe. I'm down to a titan now

[sharp latch]

The door sensors don’t work properly in 3.15 so it’s my only issue with it. To clarify I can’t disable the sensors. So typically first time on board I turn off the sensors and leave the doors open.

Since it’s not working I have to wait for the doors to open. Not too bad but just annoying since it worked in 3.14.

[split anchor]

Thanks. Where can I check out the laws so I know how to avoid being a criminal?

[sharp latch]

Defend yourself.

That’s all really.

[raw shell]

all of those crusader ships are a little nuts with the doors. Only think I really disliked about them

[sharp latch]

@split anchor

[sharp latch]

I’ve been told. Never cared to try the Hercules even when it was free to fly in PTU and during the showdown.

[raw shell]

oh I loved the herc. That was my cargo ship. Dream to fly

[sharp latch]

I might go C2 instead of caterpillar this time though.

[raw shell]

That's what I'd recommend.. I had both. Herc holds more, flies better in atmosphere

looks sexier

[pliant matrix]

imagine losing more than a million for a 30k xD

[sharp latch]

I’ve lost for no reason. Lol I know the pain. I just wasn’t expecting to lose anything so early on into 3.15

[devout comet]

It's it worth doing cargo in a ship with only 4 scu?

[raw shell]

nah

you can rent a freelancer for 33k though, that has 66scu

I've been thinking of trying that since people seem to be making money on trading

the rented prospector is a waste of time and cash, the ROC and Cutless are profitable, but very slow going. Mercenary missions have been meh.

[sharp latch]

If you have somewhere to drop boxes you can do package delivery missions.

[analog cove]

Hey there errybody, quick question. I keep seeing comments on people losing money to grieving players. Do you lose a portion of or all of your aUEC when someone kills and loots you?

[sharp latch]

Speaking of mercenary missions, what’s wrong with the unauthorized monitor missions.

Tried doing one last night, it sent me to a surface security outpost, found one monitor and couldn’t find any more. Also I was in a “restricted area” the entire time. I was worried I was going to get a crime stat.

I didn’t get to compete the mission but felt it was impossible to complete. Anyone else share the problem?

[sharp latch]

3.15.1 is addressing it, just had a read.

[hollow sedge]

thats good

now they need to buff them slightly

maybe 2

[dusky kernel]

cargo viable yet?

[hollow sedge]

im pretty sure it is

not as much

but it is'

[coarse cape]

Has been this patch

[hallow swallow]

looks like they've fixed the male character being stuck in the prospector in the PTU

[frail roost]

WE GOT'EM LADS!

Sold off my refinery orders so the .1 patch didn't wipe them. The "Buy" values are referring to Refining costs.

[hollow sedge]

holy pis

[frail roost]

The best part? I risked nothing but my time until the final sale run.

[hollow sedge]

teach me the way

u mined that quant?

[frail roost]

Yep

Prospector on Lyria.

[hollow sedge]

thats insane

im finna pledge for the mole

and start saving up again to get the orion when its actually done in 4 years

i need to reset my character cause hes all the way in fuckin new babbage

[coarse cape]

Why

[hollow sedge]

thats where i set my home

[frail roost]

Lancet head, with either Surge/Brandt/Reiger C3 or Surge/FLTR-XL/Reiger C3 modules.

[coarse cape]

Just fly to another place with a hospital

O wait hoemcresidence

[frail roost]

Doesn't change where your stuff gets delivered.

[coarse cape]

Yeah that’s going to be fun for iae

[coarse cape]

Yeah just remember

I have my Taurus parked there and all my junk for trading so that’s fun

[frail roost]

I intentionally set my Home to NB because of easy Garage access.

[coarse cape]

Yeah

Going to be fun when the elevators break

[frail roost]

Every. GD. Time

[coarse cape]

Might have to invest in a dragonfly fly but I only got like 200k rn lol

[hollow sedge]

Thanks for giving me an extra motivational boost to grind bounties on the aurora, was getting kind of jaded trying to get to 3M for the prospector plus wiggle room

[frail roost]

The kicker? That was a bit over a quarter of what I intended to haul. And was mined in 2 evenings.

[hollow sedge]

humm 2 evenings ?

[frail roost]

About 3hrs per night.

[hollow sedge]

i could always dupe a rental into letting me change modules

[frail roost]

IDK how to do that since the Hangar is disabled for now.

[hollow sedge]

well basically if rent a prospector you shouldn't be able to change modules

but if you crash it, do a claim and expedite it

you just alt+f4 after you expedite

and voila it shows as if it was yours and you can change the mining head and add modules

but it will still keep the rental timer

[frail roost]

So make damn sure to pull your components off before it expires.

Got it.

[hollow sedge]

yup

so you are basically using a rental to get a higher aUEC yield

while already pre buying the components for the prospector you are saving to buy

weird logic

[frail roost]

Of course, I CCUed my referral Gladius up to a Prospector, so I don't have to worry about that ever again.

[hollow sedge]

but it kind of makes sense

[hollow sedge]

If they do a promo on a prospector I will

but at the current value I don't see myself investing that much in an alpha stage game

[white minnow]

Can you retrieve a ship at a mining facility? I try where you spawn the rovers and it gives me an error

[frail roost]

Only small ones. The 100i, M50, and other Size 1 ships.

Pisces, unfortunately, classes as Size 2.

And nothing will spawn on the bigger pads.

[white minnow]

mnnn ok so my game crashed when i was loading the lancer full of laranite in a station. I came back and the game says its stored at that mining station

but it cant retrieve it

shouldn't i have like a way to claim it the same way like with 30k?

[frail roost]

Did you check the terminal at the station when you logged in?

[white minnow]

yes... it was like a normal claim

so i didnt do it

[frail roost]

Ouch. Lost it, then.

[white minnow]

Damn... so there is no way to recover if the game crashes? you loose everything? If so ill just stop trading... not worth then :/

[frail roost]

With the 30k protection, it lists the last location the ship was at, but allows you to Retrieve it as normal. If it doesn't, then...

[raw shell]

tip for you roc miners. Normally the rock scans don't tell you what the rock is. After you scan a few, hold the scan button down and move it around the rocks and the contents eventually shows up. from the ship scanner, that is.. when scanning gem icons

[frail roost]

Why is your game crashing so much? What pc specs are you running?

[white minnow]

No its not crashing much, but It does sometimes, and I dont want to loose everything :/

Ill try to relog and see if i get the option

[frail roost]

I have had one game crash since about 3.12 or 13?

Other than 30ks

[white minnow]

What if you die like when you are running around the terminals? Still hapens a lot, but if the cgame did not crash or disconnect, will the ship still be there after you respawn and come back?

[hollow sedge]

i think it depends, when you log in you can go to a different server

right?

[white minnow]

yes

[frail roost]

If you die, but are on the same server, your ship should still be there.

[hollow sedge]

but most likely you wont end up in the same server

[white minnow]

All right, sounds better at least

[frail roost]

As long as you hop to and get back to it quickly.

[hollow sedge]

i mean i lost 300k of laranite yesterday because i double requested landing permission

i didnt make it to the trade terminal on time

[frail roost]

Wat.

[hollow sedge]

and when i got back to the hangar i could only file a "claim" on my ship

for some reason it didn't even apply a fine

[white minnow]

wow

[hollow sedge]

it just despawned the ship as if it crashed

bummed me out like crazy

[frail roost]

Yeah, known issue right now, if the station autostores your ship it's destroyed.

Always manually store it when you pass the terminals.

[hollow sedge]

but that only happens if you request ATC permission to land two times right ?

[frail roost]

Nope, that doesn't change anything with this issue.

From my own testing, anyway.

[hollow sedge]

weird because the other times i did store it manually it worked okay

it was just that one time that the first ATC request kind of bugged out

so i requested another time

and even letting the timer run out, which i usually do

[mossy radish]

Renting a prospectors and the equipping it with better modules. Do you lose them once the rental expires?

[coarse cape]

You can’t change the modules

[hollow sedge]

you can

i already said how you can do it

[coarse cape]

Well you’re not supposed to iirc

[hollow sedge]

you're not supposed to do a lot of things

[coarse cape]

Yeah

[mossy radish]

Can you link to the comment?

[raw shell]

can anyone tell me approximately how much I could net profit from 66scu legal trading?

[hollow sedge]

It's simple, rent a prospector, crash it and die, go to the hangar console to file a claim, click to expedite the claim and immediately alt+f4 when you do that

when you come back the rental timer should disappear and you will be able to see your ship as if you had purchase it and change modules etc...

bear in mind that the rental timer IS STILL GOING

[raw shell]

you can't equip rental prospectors with moduals

[hollow sedge]

you just can't see it

[mossy radish]

Interesting, and I keep the modules?

[hollow sedge]

if you remember to remove them for the stock ones before the rental timer is down is should

[mossy radish]

I'll try this thanka

[raw shell]

ship buildout is locked on rentals, you can't change anything

[hollow sedge]

you shouldn't be able to

but you can

[raw shell]

I tried yesterday

[hollow sedge]

ok, i'll try it now and i'll show you

i'll even record it give me a second

or more like 10 minutes cause i need to go to a mine to get a mining head

[raw shell]

if you say you've done it, I don't doubt it. did you just bring it up in the loadout and change it? Mine was locked solid

I got three modules to try, no dice

and let me tell you bub, that rental is freaking worthless with a stock build.

[hollow sedge]

exactly

that's why if this is still working

as it was 1 week ago

it would made things a little bit more profitable

[raw shell]

absolutely.. I'll change what I'm doing now immediatly.

[hollow sedge]

i know yesterday i managed to do it with a freelancer

and managed to access it from ship loadout as it were mine

it did do the normal rental price but i had access to the modules

[raw shell]

ok, don't want to see you waste your auec, but I did just try it and would not let me install a module

[hollow sedge]

but when you go to your hangar consule

do you see the timer ?

or not ?

[raw shell]

in the ship terminal?

[hollow sedge]

yup

[raw shell]

yes the rentals have timers

I have a cutty and roc now

[hollow sedge]

wait then it's still working

don't worry about my uaec

i can make it up pretty fast

[raw shell]

rock on then 🙂

[hollow sedge]

ok the ui on the rental terminals is bugged af

asking me 990k for 3 day rental

[raw shell]

holy cow

[hollow sedge]

it was just the ui it was assuming i asked for 30 days

but the game is so screwed, that i haven't even summoned the prospector yet after renting it

and already ...

i need to file a claim xD

[raw shell]

yeah it's annoying. Have to claim all rentals the first time now

[hollow sedge]

ok now we play the waiting game

2 minutes

and i hope to got i'm right otherwise i'm gonna look like a fool

[raw shell]

I'm really hoping you are right 🙂

[hollow sedge]

worse case scenario i'm mining 3k rocks

xD

ok the expedite time should be up

it was 2 minutes

logging back in

[raw shell]

exactly, which are hard to find and the non-quantanium minerals are like 2% at best

unless of course you're farming aluminum

[hollow sedge]

for those 1k uAEC profits

crazy xD

[raw shell]

yeah, the profit mining has been nerfed so hard

[hollow sedge]

and it works

no timer anymore also

but it still ticking time

but i can change modules now

huff ... i'm not an idiot, was kind scared i would end up a fool here xD

[raw shell]

so how did you get rid of the timer? I think I missed something

[hollow sedge]

well you either crash it

or just rent it and do the claim

you expedite the claim

and alt + f4 after

wait for the time for the expedite ( 2 minutes )

give a minute or more extra for safety

log back in

and the rental ship should show up as if it was your own

[raw shell]

so rent, expedite, alt-f4, expedite, then you're golden?

[hollow sedge]

just expedite one

once

then you alt+f

argh

alt+f

goddamit

you know what i mean

[raw shell]

hehe yep

thanks man I'll try this. I've never h eard this before

[hollow sedge]

you wait outside the game for the time it should take for the expedite to take place

or more

then log back in

[raw shell]

ah ok

[hollow sedge]

i discovered it by mistake actually

so i'm just recreating the steps i did before and they seem to work

[raw shell]

a lancet and surge module on a rental prosp will be a game changer

[hollow sedge]

@raw shell did you rent a prospector ?

[raw shell]

Not yet, getting the most out of this roc session

[hollow sedge]

ah okay, just wanted to know if someone else is able to replicate it

gonna get a lancet head just to be sure i can change every module

since i was in hurl 12

hurl 1

[raw shell]

just one more hadanite patch 😊

wrote your name down though. I'll definitely let you know what I find

@hollow sedge do they still expire?

👀

[hollow sedge]

i think so

[raw shell]

https://tenor.com/view/darn-it-shoot-shucks-dang-gosh-gif-16474715

[hollow sedge]

at least my previous freelancer did

but i also know that this should have been patched a long time ago and before they actually did not expire

so i don't know if CIG actually patched it or if it's a random thing

[raw shell]

hmm I'll find out

[hollow sedge]

but i saw a reddit thread a year ago or so of people that simply kept them

[raw shell]

I know there used to be instances of rentals never expiring

[hollow sedge]

i guess this is the same logic but they do expire but give you loadout access

which in the prospect case makes it worth the rental price

Someone buy my nft chicken so I can buy the mole

[glad trench]

can someone send me all the current prices for ore and stuff, tryna calculate the total refined value of 9 hauls of mine

[sharp latch]

Rented a warden in 3.14. it stayed in my fleet forever, it said expired but I was still able to retrieve it.

[still junco]

is it possible to still swap the mining lasers from rented ships? through the hangar trick

i was thinking of doing it to earn some credits once argo mole is free next week

[pallid temple]

No

[cedar flower]

Hull C just got delayed into 3.18 😦

[hollow sedge]

Isn’t that the biggest of the hull’s

[pallid temple]

No

Hull E is the biggest

[cedar flower]

C is the mid class

[hollow sedge]

Ahh

[cedar flower]

C is about 150m long
D is 200m
E is 340m

[hollow sedge]

How yk it’s free? I swear I’m never in the loop on this game haha

[pallid temple]

The IAE starts this Friday

[raw shell]

what's an IAE?

[cedar flower]

Intergalatctic Aerospace Expo

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/18377-Countdown-To-IAE

[still junco]

you can rent for free ships for 24hours

since its the anniversary event

depending on the day you can rent RSI ships or MISC or Anvil, etc.

[raw shell]

oh nice

[pallid temple]

It's 48hours for the ship rentals

[hollow sedge]

Ah dope

[hollow sedge]

It actually is. i'm running around with a lancet on a rented prospector lol

[pallid temple]

You do realise that they disabled hangar access recently in the last couple of patches

[still junco]

they did? damn

[hollow sedge]

How am i doing this with a rented prospector then?

:/

[still junco]

well i dont have access to my hangar

[pallid temple]

No one does

[raw shell]

@hollow sedge It worked! I wonder if they changed something though. I noticed my rented cutty black was also missing the timer, and it looked like I could change components on it too.

[hollow sedge]

it's via vehicle loadhout

[still junco]

so you managed to bypass the red lock from the loadout

hope i can manage some kind of solution for the event

so i can get me some tasty credits hehehe

[hollow sedge]

yeah

[raw shell]

rented prospector:

[hollow sedge]

crash it

go to the terminal, file a clai

claim

click expedite

as soon as you do alt+f4

and reconnect after the time it would take for it to expedite

[raw shell]

I did that when I first rented it, then flew to PO to add modules

[hollow sedge]

2 minutes

[still junco]

alrights cheers man

chris roberts cant keep a good, honest, exploiter down

[raw shell]

I didn't need to crash it though, everything I rent requires a claim

[hollow sedge]

i'm assuming he already claimed it xD

[raw shell]

hardly... this prospector is fucking worthless without upgraded mining head and modules

the way I see it, he scammed me when I first rented this pos

[hollow sedge]

it kind of is true cause as it is, it's a freighter

and a bad one

[still junco]

this probably gets asked a lot but, once they put the orion in the game,
they will add bigger asteroids right?

or will the orion go mining like the prospecto and mole but with an added refinery

[raw shell]

I guess you can't scan the masses of boxes at ranges any more huh? that sucks

now you have to fly to ever single scanned box to tell if it's one rock or seven

[marble crater]

so just bought a Prospector in game and was about to fit it out with stealth parts but it seems there's no change to signatures in Erkul? is this a bug?

[cedar flower]

There already is giant asteroids in the Halo

[raw shell]

I forget, which keys are the modules?

yay, finally!

[mortal kettle]

no, it's because they have not rebalanced yet after making all components in a grade the same.

except quantum drives

[coarse cape]

Alt + 1,2,3

[marble crater]

ahh ok thanks for that. bit of a shame though

[signal jacinth]

whats most powerfull mining laser head for the mole? that can break a 8000 mass rock

[echo holly]

new to running cargo I have an Andromeda any good routes?

[crimson mantle]

Astatine & Titanium, sort of
You won't be a millionaire fast though: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Constellation%2520Andromeda%2522,%2522investment%2522:250000,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:3000%257D

[echo holly]

thanks a bunch

[north oyster]

I think the MOLE is going to also be the ship of the month for December subscribers

[marble crater]

finally got my Prospector fitted out & came across 5 unscannable Quant clusters lmao. so cursed

[echo holly]

Really need to fix mining CIG

Sold my prospector got tired of all the BS

[marble crater]

waste of an hour

[hollow sedge]

f

[sage kernel]

so basically its bounties or bust?

[marble crater]

nah alot of people are doing well mining/trading it's just rng buggy bs

[sage kernel]

quantity seems really low

[marble crater]

on my 2nd trip out and first cluster I came across is scannable Quant. typical rng

I think if you run into unscannable clusters jumping out 100km and reinstancing could help

[hollow sedge]

u in a mole?

[marble crater]

propsector lmao, going to have to leave loads behind

[hollow sedge]

dangggg

[copper hedge]

Shiiii

One of the rocks my friend found

[marble crater]

deeelicious

[hollow sedge]

num num num

are there any minin / cargo orgs out there?

[gentle pollen]

plenty

[tender warren]

best mining locations for the moons on microtech?

like is there a spot on a specific moon that just has a ton of quant spawns

cause i swear the wiki says theres supposed to be a ton on all 3 of the moons and i've found garbage nodes of 5% and less

[hollow sedge]

Hi guys are all box delivery missions bugged..i keep getting this, actually i tried about 20 times and the boxes keep bugging out in my ship also, its the Aegis Titan.

[desert nimbus]

Yes. The most recent PTU patch fixes this, which should go Live this weekend for IAE

[hollow sedge]

Ah cool, ty,

[plush coral]

is trading widow good?

u can get arrested for it right

or drugs in general

[cloud briar]

Don't even know how trading works lol... is it just buying resources and sell them.somewhere else with profit ?

[marble crater]

buy somewhere that's selling cheap/overstocked & sell to somewhere that's understocked. pretty competitive right now though with lots of people trading

[signal jacinth]

whats most powerfull mining laser head for the mole? that can break a 8000 mass rock

[cloud briar]

Helix 2 i think

[signal jacinth]

huh okay ill give it a look, thank you ^^

[cloud briar]

Yw, just don't buy the Helix 1 cuz it only fits on the prospector :)

[hollow sedge]

Howdy fellas! Im looking for some more hands that want to get into mining but dont have any ships! My group has 3 Moles and are in need of some hands to keep the operation running! Please hit me up if ur interested in this "org"

[gentle ruin]

oh wow yeah trading is not very profitable

good god

why would i do trading with these shabby profits

any routes with atleast 5000 AUEC/MIN ? in something like a taurus

[blissful oxide]

You could also use modules
With surge + optimium + stampede you can break any rock.

Helix is great for non-quanta rock
But if you do quanta, it's too instable and a Lancet is required (it's possible with helix, but the instability is so high you will lose a lot of time, and probably die trying)

So if you want to mine quanta, use a lancet with the 3 modules. You will be able to break anything (bigger I got was 8200 mass with 49% quanta)

[dawn grove]

Anyone hae any good shots for ROC mining?

[crude surge]

Were can i buy the Vulture ? Hand some one know the price ?

[signal jacinth]

where do you buy the consumables for mining i cant find it, like im at arc-L1 but cant find it on the monitor

[dawn grove]

Go to the refinery

[signal jacinth]

i did i am here but like i dont see them on the monitors

[dawn grove]

Meant to say any good spots

[signal jacinth]

the option to buy ship mining stuff is not here...

[hollow sedge]

Use scroll

[signal jacinth]

ooooowh

thanks man ^^

[keen minnow]

anybody know whats hapening 4 example when i had a ship with maybe 10 or 15 scu and refined quantanium and hav from 1 refinery 25 scu. can i transport this splittet?

or i had to own a ship that can take all of it?

[blissful oxide]

It's not ingame yet, it should be there in 3.18
You will be able to buy it during the IAE
Currently the price is $140

[frozen moss]

Lorville at my c2 and its cargo, 600k auec, is this shit getting patched on 3.15.1?

[blissful oxide]

Go to the Orbital Station

You can retrieve your ship there

[frozen moss]

and any work arounds i can do before i claim?

[verbal cargo]

Believe you need a ship to haul all of it or you lose some

[frozen moss]

oh really?

[blissful oxide]

Worked for my MSR multiple time, I guess C2 should be the same

[frozen moss]

i hit store at the lorville terminal did you do the same

[blissful oxide]

Yup, I stored
then the ship is shown at "Lorville" but somewhat I can't retrieve it, only claim option appear

I then went to Everus Arbor, and was able to retrieve it from there

[frozen moss]

then what?

[blissful oxide]

I went to Everus Arbor, the inventory/ships are shared between city/station

And dunno why, but Everus was able to retrieve my ship

[frozen moss]

im claiming another ship to fly there and check, did you fly back to lorville after to sell?

[blissful oxide]

nah, I wasn't doing trading

imo you will need to sell elsewhere

[frozen moss]

well lets just hope my ship is there and my cargo is there with it first lol still waiting on my ship to fly there

[blissful oxide]

Tell me if it works once you checked please
I know smaller ships aren't eaten
But MSR sized are
If it's the same for bigger ship, ima "expand" the report on issue council

[frozen moss]

nope its not there

it says stored just doesn't tell me where i think im out 600k imo

[blissful oxide]

You can't spawn it from Everus ?

[frozen moss]

no

week worth of grinding all that money is gone now

[blissful oxide]

ah shit
It's specific to MSR sized then :/

[blissful oxide]

might worth to wait for 3.15.1

The issue is "fixed" on the issue council
https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-17526

[frozen moss]

worst part is this i just got home from work this was my first cargo run and i got a 4 day weekend i was planning on playing a ton

[blissful oxide]

Maybe do some deliveries to recover :/
Once you get tier 2 there is 45k missions, which are worth

[frozen moss]

yeah i might gonna take a little break to chill out cuz that def hurt ngl

[signal jacinth]

which mining head has more power on bigger rocks? helix or the impact?

[devout comet]

Helix is better overall

Anyone wanna help a newb mine in a roc for the first time? Anyone got a ship to carry it?

[signal jacinth]

I know its better but does it have the power?

[keen minnow]

thx 4 the info

[devout comet]

yes from what i remeber

[north oyster]

You may wish to avoid ROC mining for now or at least understand that it will be a total hassle and it will require a whole lot more time invested compared to earning potential

[dawn grove]

I rented the roc for 3 days and it took all my money and gave me 700+days

[north oyster]

Ouch. You may wish to contribute to an Issue council report about that

[dawn grove]

Will do

[slim atlas]

So the ship to rent would be a cutty black if you dont have one, as for doing it fly low to the ground below 1k and go slow, keep scanning you will spot those little gems soon enough

Its like panning for gold, takes time but eventually you will find that big payout

One advantage of roc mining is you can carry a lot more than prospector mining the catch is, pirates can rob you for real

[iron jacinth]

where to find stamping mining module?

normaly it was on CURL L1

[white minnow]

Hi guys, is there a way to fix the mining UI that after 3.15 does like this weird "hacky flicker" ?

[north oyster]

No, that's a build issue as far as I know. If you find out otherwise be sure to let us know

[north oyster]

I might be wrong, but I think I got mine at HUR-L2

[north oyster]

A trick here to avoid pirates is to dive down to the moon from an orbital marker rather than QT to a known location.

PRO-TIP It is always daylight under OM-1 (the north pole axis of the planet/moon). So you are never in the dark as you are scanning for those itsy-bitsy TINY deposits.

[white minnow]

Damn, ty, well lets hope that the 3.15.1 fixes it :/ mining feels trippy now 😄

[north oyster]

Feels right at home to me 🙃

[daring belfry]

I wasted 2 days trying to roc mine. Finding the gem icons takes so much time and just to find out that the ores are glitched inside a rock

I hope they can fix that bug or I totally wasted my money on roc

[sonic laurel]

if it's ingame yeah. but if you paid cash then nah. It'll be good again. It's just minings turn to suffer a bit.

[unkempt spoke]

implying trading has ever worked

still waiting for scrap to be unfucked 🙄

[frigid musk]

any one know what goes wrong here? why can't I select Laranite on this console?

[woven plover]

@frigid musk more than likely sold out of it for the moment

[frigid musk]

damn... well that makes trade routes impossible then 😄

[sonic laurel]

presently the best way to do trade is holding smaller amounts of the most valuable stuff so it sell wuickly. And then filling the rest with moderate profit items.

same with the drug trade

rather than 20 widow

take 5 widow, 10 altru, and 5 etam to GH. it will sell way faster

[frigid musk]

interesting

[sonic laurel]

the days of single commodities making a mil an hour are gone and that is a good thing

traders live and die by asset prices and demand

now you have to put in research on your routes

[frigid musk]

yep, but for starting traders this could be very hard

[sonic laurel]

this is a skill game

[frigid musk]

if the big ships take all the good stuff before you get there

[sonic laurel]

everything will be hard

just get creative and you can pull in nice profits from that connie

[frigid musk]

yep... i'm just afraid the grinding will be too much. 😄

[sonic laurel]

well they said making money will be much harder in the final game

right now a good FPS player can make 55k+ doing a single 890 mission

in the future that mission will need another player or two

diluting profits

[frigid musk]

yep.. I don't mind a game being hard... just keep in mind there are casual players too you know

[sonic laurel]

in star citizen you won't be rambo. traders will have protection costs to pay, gunners

etc

[frigid musk]

as long there's a good balance.

i'm all in 😄

but with lots of games these days.. they expect you to play for 14 hours a day.

[sonic laurel]

this is a common laranite route

plus other things

you can use to make sure you're not standing there for an hour

less profit but faster profit

[frigid musk]

yeah, I was using the same ... thought I was getting rich haha

[crimson mantle]

It's a very popular route, so stocks may not hold up

[sonic laurel]

diversify each trip

sell faster

make more money in the long term

[frigid musk]

I understand it's ofcourse that learning curve.. to feel the best routes and commodities

at this moment I am just trying it out so i wanted a short fast route 😄

[crimson mantle]

Yeah... ideally they would have an app in the mobi glass, but for now I do my best datamining what I can 😄

[frigid musk]

and you do it well... and i'm sure we all appreciate it! 😄

[open viper]

i stopped mining when they added in consumables and stuff cuz it was like i just wanna go out there and mine a rock

[sonic laurel]

once you're really advanced you can do 5 jump circular routes where you buy and sell only portions of your cargo at various places

[frigid musk]

can you fit consumables to a rented pros?

[sonic laurel]

once you learn that you'll be rich in no time

[sonic laurel]

no

[frigid musk]

thought so

[crimson mantle]

You can use a large refresh rate filter to increase your chances:
https://i.imgur.com/3XNgXCy.png

It filters out the places that don't replenish very fast 🙂

[frigid musk]

so when a stock says 2000/min that's over all servers ?

[crimson mantle]

The little (?) icon explains most of the interface, but let me know if something else is not clear 🙂

[frigid musk]

so the more servers.. the more players... it doesn't scale?

[crimson mantle]

It doesn't scale

Depending on the time of day and whether or not the patch just released, the economy will be under heavy stress

[frigid musk]

ah yes sure of that!

I hope that bug gets fixed that puts ship in a unknown state

[hollow sedge]

do you have any place to see live drug prices?

[devout comet]

can anyone help a newb mie for the first time

[sonic laurel]

trade tool

also if you are running drugs make sure you aren't toting more than 20ish SCU

I like using my Nomad for it

[sonic laurel]

#looking-for-session

[sage kernel]

so if im sitting at a terminal will it refresh while im just sitting here or do i need to do something like rotate buy/sell or back and out, etc to get a refresh when it actually does tic in stock?

[hollow sedge]

ya i got a 315p

[sonic laurel]

perfect

[obsidian stone]

Aw, hell. Am I going to lose my refinery jobs in afew hours???

[glad trench]

I'm worried too

[signal jacinth]

me aswel

hope we dont

[sonic laurel]

you can end it early

[lyric nest]

Im assuming yes but since its not a up in number idk

[raw shell]

refinery jobs were preserved ❤️

[glad trench]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YE ima check mine to confirm

[signal jacinth]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmen

[floral storm]

anyone else hoping for a spontaneous drop of the Argo R.A.F.T. on the IAE?

[nocturne rain]

does scrap work in 3.15.1? 🙂

[velvet sierra]

I know cargo hauling kinda sucks right now, but it's very peaceful to grab a C2 and go from A to B
I'm a simple man

[main saddle]

I can grok that.

[subtle gazelle]

did they fix the issue with resources not stacking in the ROC?

[ember star]

I hate the Prospector.. even as a solo miner

I need my Mole back

[glad trench]

does anyone know a good set up to solo crack 9000 mass rocks?

The helix 2 with a surge was not enough

[hollow sedge]

is r&d orinth terminal broken?

i can't select my ship for location

[hallow swallow]

you could try hold the laser at full power, until you can do another surge shot

[hallow swallow]

It's mentioned in the patch notes as a known issue. So no it's not fixed yet. Coming in future update, their words.

[glad trench]

Wudnt stay in the green long enuf

Cuz ye I did try that lol with two surges

Even a stampede

[hallow swallow]

oh so it's managed to reach the green?

i was going to suggest a brandt module, but it seems like there is not enough power to hold the charge around that level.

i've never tried cracking something that large personally.

[glad trench]

Yeah it's nuts how much it was taking

[elfin hull]

Anyone have any recommendations for finding laranite stock? bezdek and lathan are always empty

[hallow swallow]

I think this is a two man job. two lasers going at the same time.

[glad trench]

Ive cracked a rock like it by myself. It's just not easy and there must be better setups for it like impact and maybe torrent modules

[tulip sparrow]

whats a good ship to rent for cargo?

[wheat wraith]

argo cargo

[hollow sedge]

Anyone else having problems with trade consoles at outpost?
I can't get my ship to appear.
I don't want to do FPS stuff so I'm stuck with illegal monitoring missions.
How are other people making money?

[cloud briar]

Is it worth to do cargo atm ? Some people say yes and some say no...

[crimson mantle]

If you have a big ship and don't mind the few bugs, you can make money.

[cloud briar]

I got the a2 hercules or whatever its called... the bomber

It got alot of cargo space

[crimson mantle]

Yeah, that's one of the big ones

[cloud briar]

But what are the bugs then ?

[crimson mantle]

Certain outposts will not recognize nearby-parked ships.

I'm not sure about the storing-ships-makes-them-unknown, but that was also a thing in 3.15

[cloud briar]

Hmm okay

And what should i haul ? I heard laranite is good ?

[crimson mantle]

Not in an A2, no 😛

You won't be able to find enough

[north oyster]

Just give up on laranite except to backfill with another commodity. Titanium, Florine, Diamonds, etc. The glory days of laranite are gone if CIG has its say

[north oyster]

Going in and out of an outpost may kill you on the steps. Doing the duckwalk will keep you from dying. If you land at A18 or Lorville and it wants you to claim your ship, go get back in and fly to the orbital station. Then fly down in your Aurora. You will be able to trade with the ship parked at the orbital station (same space)

[thorn wagon]

boys and gals, hows farming money other than bounty these days? not playing since 3.13

[north oyster]

it's good but always bugs, LOL. You can do deliveries and build rep, then get 40K deliveries

Trade is back.

Mining is suffering at the moment. Brutal bugs for the ROC and Prospector

[ember star]

@north oyster do you know if selling quant at Orison is bugged?

[north oyster]

I've never been to Orison because it destroys my computer. I keep with the known trade spots for now

[ember star]

Ah. Where would you sell it? Lorville?

[crimson mantle]

Area18 will get you the best prices: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Quantainium

[north oyster]

TDD at A18 or Lorville

[crimson mantle]

On account of the larger demand

[ember star]

I havent been to A18 in forever

It's not worth 800 units of Quant to go that far

I'll go to NB since I want to check out IAE anyway

[echo isle]

orison is really buggy this patch as well, i got jail cause i stepped off train and gate sent me over the fence

[vivid belfry]

Anyone elses scanning just suddenly stop working?

I tried relogging, rebooting etc but nothing will fix it

[thorn wagon]

wait a min, the argo mpuv has less cargo space than the 325?

[vivid belfry]

@north oyster Do you know which ones you need to start doing to gain rep? Is it the ling family one?

[north oyster]

I've not done any of the pizza deliveries yet, sorry I can't help on that one

[sinful quail]

you don't have to land at lorville anymore?

@north oyster

[north oyster]

You can land at the space station with the cargo then take a small ship to the surface and go to the TDD

[sinful quail]

yea

so storage is shared between space stations

what about close mining station

like hur l2

[north oyster]

No, only the linked station

[sinful quail]

or does it not register close enough

aight ty

[ember star]

I can’t sell at New Babbage either

I guess it’s just bugged this patch

[still junco]

just came back to mining after months

you can no longer check instability from far away right?

with the "V" visor from your ship

[north oyster]

The Ping/Scan function of the radar has been totally 100% revamped. Overall, I see it as still broken and in need of a lot of love. The units of measurements are still messed up, scan results are sporadic at best and ping is "interesting" ... Besides for Quantainium, your stability/instability isn't going to play a huge role (imo)

[livid briar]

Is cargo/mining something to do during free fly ?

[crimson mantle]

I would stay away from trading during the expo: there will be a lot of people flying around in very powerful ships.

[livid briar]

Ah so lots of competition or hunters

[crimson mantle]

Do try out the cargo ships you were keeping an eye on though!

For flight model and feel

[north oyster]

you might want to consider gaining rep with deliveries, some involve pve and can pay up to 40K aUEC

You can also check out Jake Axton's trade refresher course, he has some suggestions for small/medium trades if you want to go that route

[livid briar]

I'll probably stick with missions

im relatively new and dont have cash to lose haha

[north oyster]

Deliveries is how I began my climb from zero to hero 🙂

[livid briar]

maybe i can crew up with someone and do some combat too

[velvet sierra]

are we assuming that with persistent hangars, we’ll be able to unload cargo in our hangar and stockpile?
that’s my best idea as of now.. would work amazingly with the refactor

[frail roost]

I wonder what kind of SCU cap private hangars will have... storage on a Space Station is limited by the station's geometry, after all.

[dusty copper]

Can you change mining heads on a rented prospector this patch?

[frail roost]

There's a process to do it.

[velvet sierra]

I wonder if this opens the door for purchasing multiple cargo hangars

Perhaps even purchasing hangars on the surface of planets for cargo

Possibilities!!

[frail roost]

2. Alt+F4 immediately after claiming
3. Wait for claim time to complete before logging in
4. Log in and edit modules```

[dusty copper]

oh jeesh. appreciate the info! Whats the go to mining laser these days??

[frail roost]

You do lose the modules if the rental expires without removing them.

[crimson oak]

lancet for quant

[frail roost]

Lancet

Lancet all day.

[dusty copper]

Sweet, appreciate the help and info

[frail roost]

It's like taking a crowbar to the green zone and prying it open.

[crimson oak]

whats the deal with the size of mining heads? They take up 2.3m scu so ya cant really buy and transport them, you gotta have the mining ship at the station you buy them from and fit them there.

tried to transport one in my msr back to the refinery i work out of mostly, ended up being far too big for the vehicle inventory

[frail roost]

Even on my C2, the Arbor head (left over from upgrading to Lancet) doesn't fit in the empty inventory. It says 32%, but apparently its geometry has been marked incompatible?

[hollow sedge]

hey so none of the drug terminals on the moons of crusader are working for me

is this a known bug?

[crimson mantle]

yup 😦

[hollow sedge]

that sucks

so only the lyria ones and grim hex work for me so far

[tulip sparrow]

can one willing to help me with cargo

im new to it

[open pebble]

Just started playing again after a couple of years. What's the current trade route meta?

Also tempted to upgrade my cat to a c2

[frail roost]

Use https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes and set "Minimum Refresh Rate" to at least 1000

[open pebble]

Sweet, thanks!

[frail roost]

Never could stand the Cat, C2 is now my daily driver.

Has the Cat price gone up yet?

[crimson mantle]

On drake day

[frail roost]

Yo, I try to spread the gospel of your site wherever I can. Really one of the 2 best tools for the game, the other being Rischwa's "CCU Game" extension

[open pebble]

Should I wait for drake day to upgrade? Or will only the original price I paid be applied?

[frail roost]

If you upgrade now, you'll lose the difference between the current and new Cat price. If you wait, it may go too high to CCU.

It's a toss-up, really, until we know what the new price is.

[open pebble]

Hmm.. current value is 295, and C2 is 400

Think it will be priced over the C2?

[frail roost]

It's possible.

Only a $105 increase needed to match it, and they haven't said what the new price will be.

[open pebble]

Here's hoping they bump it by $100

Then I get a C2 for $5

[frail roost]

During Fleet Week I managed to get mine for $285 total, $115 off current MSRP

[open pebble]

Nice

[tulip sparrow]

anyone wanna help me learn tradeing?

[open pebble]

Step 1: Buy commodity from somewhere
Step 2: Deliver commodity to another location that buys it for more than what you paid
Step 3: Repeat

Oh, and
Step 0: Have ship with big cargo

Some caveats:

• Some outposts produce goods slowly, so you may have to wait
• Some delivery points may have limits on how much you can drop off
• Illegal cargo will get you fined

[still junco]

the rent expires? i cant see any countdown anymore

[frail roost]

It should show up in the ASOP terminals.

[still junco]

what are those

[frail roost]

The ones you spawn your ship from

[still junco]

oh alright

ill check again

[hollow sedge]

Anyone get that bug while handmining where you cant store or pickup items?

[open pebble]

Speaking of rentals, are weapons and ship components rented with REC still usable in the PU?

[frail roost]

Haven’t touched anything to do with REC since about 3.10

[open pebble]

Yea, neither have I, but I have like 750k REC points. Wondering if they're completely worthless or not

[late mortar]

Has anyone run into issues equipping mining consumables in 3.15.1? I see the consumables in my inventory system, but in the Vehicle Loadout Manager, they aren't appearing under "Utility" and therefore cannot be equipped to my Prospector.

[gentle spade]

Is selling at scrapyards broken? I've parked my ship nearby but it won't show up in the sell terminal

[unreal heron]

Yeah i think scrap trading is borked for now

[gentle spade]

Well, then I have a C2 full of scrap that can't be unloaded

[unreal heron]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wow-shock-drama-ohhh-gif-22585288

[hollow sedge]

Where do I sell my kristals

[crystal owl]

anyone looking to mine with us?

[signal jacinth]

is it true those normal delivery missions can be upgraded to 45k if you keep doing them?

[verbal cargo]

Yes

[lyric nest]

Argo day couldn't come fast enough bois

[frail roost]

The 45k ones take you to bunkers, and can involve hostile npcs.

[olive wagon]

How is ROC mining in 3.15.1?

[devout comet]

What's the most valuable thing to mine if your hand mining/roc mining

[verbal cargo]

Hadanite

[devout comet]

Hadanite? Ok should I just grab that and that only

?

[verbal cargo]

Dolvine and aphorite pay almost half as much. They are still ok to mine depending on if you are having a hard time finding hadanite

[sage kernel]

so the scan center is way more up from the mining center.. any fix? roc ds

[smoky gust]

with the new inventory system, can you drag and drop cargo from your ROC onto your bigger ship that is carrying the ROC? (Such as MSR, Valkyrie etc)

[rose forge]

how long does it take for commodities to refresh

[split anchor]

Newb here. These box missions are driving me nuts. First mission, kill the baddies, grabbed unstable materials and loaded into cargo. Got to breaker yard and only 3 of the four are in cargo. 😑
Next mission, grabbed unstable materials. Can't place or drop last box. It's stuck in my arm. 😑
I guess this is what comes with Alpha.

[humble magnet]

I'm celebrating today ! ||Prospector pilot seat is now fixed|| !!! no more panicking to get unstuck and leave the ship in the sound of unstable alarms ringing !! No more glitching through the floor.

[coarse cape]

[fossil swallow]

what mining head do people like on the prospector

[pulsar herald]

fairly new to the whole cargo thing, where is the best place to start

[sinful quail]

lorville

and start looking for trading posts

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[pulsar herald]

thankyou

[raw shell]

Lancet, for quant. Helix for everything else

[dusty copper]

Hey, is there any reason to use the power triangle while mining in a prospector? Does it affect anything?

[rose forge]

do they plan on reducing update times for commodities?

there are alot of people running trade

[livid briar]

From what I've heard it's a problem more unique to free fly events because everyone has bigger ships and can move more than typically able

[rose forge]

its terrible

[rare sky]

Not that I'm aware of. Shields to front and overclock laser. Although I still can't do the second bit :p

[manic whale]

There´s no shield to front with bubble shields

[delicate girder]

Trying to find routes for my nomad and SC Trade Tools does nothing when I submit. Any ideas why?

First time I've used it. I click the submit button nothing changes visually.

Tweaked it to this and still nothing.

[hollow sedge]

@crimson mantle mate this your program make it work for the man

[subtle gazelle]

you have avoid selection turned on

the second drop down

its probably excluding a lot of items and locations

[delicate girder]

Thanks for catching that but the following still didn't work:

[subtle gazelle]

not sure then, could just try resetting those filters if theyre restricting too many location/commodity combos

[livid cloak]

Sorry if this has been asked already, but is the flickering graphics when mining supposed to be a feature or is it a bug ?

[livid cloak]

Never mind i think i found the answer, but it sucks and i hate it.

[raw shell]

agreed. it's annoying

is it me or does it seem like quantanium spawns have been nerfed in the halo? I've been working towards a MOLE and really was thinking of outright buying one... but then realized that since 3.15, I don't think I've run into a quantanium spawn that actually needed a mole to haul in. Maybe one or two were a couple of scu wouldn't fit into a prospector

[hollow sedge]

ROC still broken?

[raw shell]

I don't think I've seen anything over 30%

ROCs been working ok.. scanning for gems still sucks

[raw shell]

starting to wonder if the MOLE has been made obsolete

[sonic laurel]

Nope

it's a mistake to make large purchasing decisions off of a patch or two

[delicate girder]

By what? The Mole is about getting three times the ore and being able to crack bigger sources with the bigger mining heads.

[raw shell]

well by the decrease in large quantanium deposits (or elimination.) at least that was my question, is anyone else finding 40%+ Quant rocks like I use to find in 3.14. You NEEDED a MOLE to bring that in.

Are there other ores? Sure.. those have been nerfed to 2% levels.. bexilite, agrcium, laranite.. Hardly need a MOLE for that.

But hey if filling up a MOLE's worth of tungsten and aluminum ore is your thing, rock on. I'm just asking if everyone else is seeing the quant nerf I am seeing.

[crimson mantle]

It seems like you blacklisted everything 😄

Hit "reset" and just select your nomad and money

[obsidian stone]

I haven't run across anything that needs a MOLE's power or capacity. I've come across 40%+ rocks twice and was able to extract most of it. I've been running around the Halo, HL3, and Lyria.

[mossy radish]

for ROC minables whats the best ship in terms of sensors? (and ability to carry the ROC)

seems like the aquila and msr share the same sensors package

@fleet sentinel ?

[north oyster]

Sensors are all about the same, they are not really different in this stage of the game

For carrying the ROC, I find the MAX to be the best roll-on, roll-off ship. She's compact and easy to get in and out terrain. Plus the hydrogen scopes are best in industry and you will never run out of fuel

Taurus and most any Connie are good candidates. MSR is a little big but not terrible to use. She's just a little more expensive to operate than a slightly smaller ship. Which will cut into your net profit

[subtle gazelle]

cutty is my fav for ROC

very agile and once you get the hang of backing up into the bay in third person its easy

need to be able to turn fast if you ping something at 200m/s+

[hallow swallow]

My favorite right now is the nomad. It is so nimble over the surface, and more stable in atmo flight than a cutty. Cutty still good though, I have used it for the purpose too. Not as easy to park the ROC in a nomad though.

[north oyster]

I used the cutty for the a many months after buying the ROC, she does a good job. I just found the MAX made everything about ROC mining easier

[hallow swallow]

Can't wait till ROC mining comes back to proper form. Well decent form.

[subtle gazelle]

oh yeah nomad is probably the best if it can stay on there

all it needs is for the collector to work

i havent had much trouble finding nodes if i fly fast 200m/s+ and ping on cooldown

[north oyster]

The list of "needs" for ROC mining is rather long, LOL

[hallow swallow]

as long as the list of gems you see as you extract them haha

[hallow swallow]

I typically go faster 250-300

[fluid sun]

does server hopping help with luck on that? i just drove around a lot and the flew around a lot and only found 1 node of aphorite on daymar

[delicate girder]

LOL! Don't know why it happened at the time, but I originally did just that and it didn't work so that's when I got creative in trying all the options. After you said this, I tried it again and it works. Go figure.

[subtle gazelle]

i ROC on aberdeen

just go between hdms norgaard and anderson in a straight line thats what i usually do

i think if you stay on the pole it never gets fully dark

but im usually there or dobbs heading north

[hollow sedge]

IDK what's going on with SC Trade Tools, but Gallog has been spot on for me. Especial for what I've been trading (Diamond, Distilled Spirits, and Laranite).

[delicate girder]

It took me quite a while to get a full load of Laranite (only 24 SCU) at a planetary port which was supposed to have 100 SCU. It kept doling it out to me around 5 SCU at a time. You'd die of old age trying to fill a big ship.

Wonder if medical supplies are more available and sellable?

@crimson mantle makes a hell of a website for a hella broken game play!

[subtle gazelle]

are you selling at loreville central business or everus harbor?

cause EH wont buy it, only trade districts

[frail roost]

This is Free Fly. Any remotely profitable trade goods are being hit especially hard right now.

Set the Refresh rate to 1000 or more to have a decent chance at a successful run.

[hollow sedge]

Made a big gamble on Trade right now.

It's paying off. I'll give a total profit in a minute.

[hollow sedge]

Avoid Med Supplies. Same with Laranite.

If you switch to a smaller ship, like Cutlass Black or Freelancer, you'll do more runs, but have more overall gains.

Freefly events; just wait until the Drake day and the world is full of Cats.

[undone socket]

is roc mining working?

[delicate girder]

Nomad is smaller (24 SCU) than a Cuttie already.

[hollow sedge]

Oh I'm sorry, didn't realize you're in a Nomad.

Try Diamonds. Diamond is good.

[undone socket]

is roc mining working???

[hollow sedge]

Just made a 87% profit on my run.

[delicate girder]

My Nomad is going to be tied up at GrimHex for the foreseeable future. It's loaded down with Vice and I can't unload it LOL! Live and learn.

[hollow sedge]

Oh you gotta be REALLY smart with Vice.

[delicate girder]

Smart how?

I'll leave the Nomad here and fly another ship somewhere else for a while if I have to pick the time.

[hollow sedge]

You gotta think in travel time with Vices.

So, limited places that can buy/sell spices. The more travel time between Pickup/Dropoff, more chance when you get to your destination it's not gonna accept your full load. The exact same if it's the shortest route.

So you gotta find that sweet spot; not too far, but not to close. If you can create circular routes for vice, you make booku money. Think like A (location) 1 (Product)-B1, B2-C2, C3-A3, and continue ad naseum.

With the legal stuff, and cost of fuel, it's usally negligible to your bottom line if where you go doesn't have room for your supply. But for Vice, it usually isn't. You want to pick it up, and drop it off. Best profit.

[delicate girder]

Well, I've rented the Carrak so I want to use it to do some high volume. Is diamonds good for that?

[hollow sedge]

Well, for legal stuff, you have two general schools of thought; High Volume, or High Frequency.

High Volume is shit the Carrack, Hull Series, or Cats. You empty one location, and fill another.

High Frequency is more Cutlass Black/Nomad/Freelancer. You make more trips.

Use High Volume for commoditites that aren't frequently traded. ||Once again, check Gallog or SC Trade Tools for accurate numbers.|| You'll be able to empty a location, but if you can't sell it right away, that starts to eat HEAVILY into you profits, cause operating those ships is more expensive. Because you're profits are faster, you run the risks of a disconnect, but you're usually going only 1 point to 1 point.

Use High Frequency for trading what everyone else is trading; you're more likely to turn a profit on a run, HOWEVER, it's no where as big as High Volume. If you disconnect, you're out less money as well.

It helps to know when you use High Volume vs. High Freq as well.

Peak hours in your country? Use High Freq. Off Hours, say early morning? Use High Volume.

Case in point, i'm East Coast USA. From 6PM to 3AM, I only do High Frequency, allowing for all the normies to get online, and play til midnight in North America across all time zones.
From 4AM to 6PM, I'll do High Volume, because MOST people are working during those hours.

But, then Thursday is Thanksgiving, so I'll be doing High Frequency exclusively until 6PM EST, and switching to High Volume because then everyone leaves to go Black Friday shopping.

Sorry for the essay.

I've been doing this in games for years.

[undone socket]

is ROC mining working????

any1 know???

[hollow sedge]

@undone socket use the search bar and find out, IDK my dude.

top right corner of discord.

[delicate girder]

Off and on. Sometimes you'll have problems where the ROC won't suck up the stuff once you blasted it out. Sometimes you'll have problems with the port not recognizing that you have the ROC in your ship. Sometimes it will all work.

Some people say the ROC's contents is not covered on a 30k like cargo. I haven't had it happen so I don't know.

[crimson oak]

i tried roc mining a few days ago and the armour bugged out and i was only getting 7mins exposure time versus the 45mins is usually gives you, then the extractor on the roc wouldnt work.

ive heard of others roc mining fine though.

trading might not be a bad idea tbh, seeing as how buggy everything else is.

[real yew]

Trading isn't looking too great right now. Lots of bugs that endanger losing your cargo and you have to invest at least about a million to make ~200k profit. Quantanium solo-mining with a Mole works surprisingly well in my experience though

... that being said, I like cargo hauling a lot but it just is too risky, and you poker with a higher and higher investment everytime that you could lose easily due to bugs

[hollow sedge]

IDK what you are talking about. I'm making, routinely, 80% profit runs.

Once again, learn when to High Volume trade vs. when to High Frequency Trade.

[ivory vault]

Are cargo missions still a thing? Looking to practice my flying and make a little money, but I read that cargo missions were removed a few months back

[frozen oasis]

they most definitely aren't removed

[delicate girder]

Think you have to make your own cargo missions with own money.

I agree that it's too bad missions aren't an option.

[copper ivy]

What are you trading?

Sc trader has been off in what stations / outposts are buying in quantities

[hollow sedge]

I combine my loads, dependent on whether I'm doing High Frequency Trading or High Volume Trading.

[copper ivy]

Like I bought 10k units of Stims to find out stations only buy 1k at a time, and replenish sloowww

But sc trader said most stations buy 5k at a time

[hollow sedge]

Make a Route, in sequence. Ezpz. 1 pick up, 9 stops.

Also, Don't get all religious about SC Trade Tools. It is a tool, not the holy grail

[copper ivy]

Yeah I try and cross reference with galog

[hollow sedge]

not what I mean, sorry, gimme 1 sec

[copper ivy]

Waiting for the in-game price commodities to get fixed to show everything it used to. Tired of seeing distilled spirits and that other commodity

feel like it should be high priority..

[hollow sedge]

@copper ivy you need to think in three commodities;

Cost of Initial investment
Cost of Time in Travel
Sale Price.

If you create your own routes, based off of not only what you are buying/selling, but if you are in High Volume Trading times or High Frequency Trading times, AND cost of trading (repairs and fuel), you'll make massive gains.

Google Sheets is your friends.

[delicate girder]

If you use a rented ship for cargo and the rental expires with you ship at the destination where you're still trying to sell all the cargo a bit at a time are you screwed out of the remaining cargo?

[hollow sedge]

I have, for every pick up location, at least 6 destinations in order for selling for Volume, and 6x4 destinations for Frequency selling.

@delicate girder Yes.,

[copper ivy]

Damn that's nice

I'm afraid to invest time like that and then cargo to change

[hollow sedge]

Yea, don't use the route finders on the trade tools.

use the commodities tab and best buy/sell information.

[copper ivy]

Yeah that's what I've been doing atleast. Main issue is the stations / outposts not showing the correct amount they will buy

[hollow sedge]

feel free to add me. I don't make insane gains in terms of total amount, but total profit. Which is more important.

[copper ivy]

fair nuff! Added you on discord

[sage geyser]

where the best place to look for quantanium on lyria?

[delicate girder]

What does Gallog mean to say with the game version column in this screen shot? Is that the last time the data was updated or when the site first started buying or sell that commodity?

[hollow sedge]

IDK, I believe it is Date Introduced.

[delicate girder]

That's what I was hoping and not the date the data last changed. LOL!

Just saw a player heading for thier ship at everus in a med gown. Hope they're changing in the elevator or their ship is in a hanger!

[reef narwhal]

has selling scrap been totally nerfed?

can't git rid of the shit anywhere

[delicate girder]

https://www.gallog.co/commodities/scrap/scrap

[reef narwhal]

yes I'm aware of Gallog. Neither Brio, Reclamation or Samson is recognising my ship tho

[mellow grail]

They may have been referring you to the site as it has a warning notice scrolling: 3.15.0 Update! DO NOT TRADE SCRAP, There is currently a bug with selling trade terminals!

[reef narwhal]

Ahh I see that now... I defo should have paid more attention to that. Cheers all

[north oyster]

CIG rolled out a hotfix for duplication issue that was happening between Grim Hex and Port Olisar. This hotfix destroyed any scrap trade in the game.

[swift quiver]

Is it normal to off-load packages from a Nomad and dying when getting off the ramp or am I missing something?

[crimson mantle]

There are issues with stairs and ramp this patch: try crouching when walking on and off, and not too fast

It may save your life! 😄

[swift quiver]

Alright, I'll try that soon, thanks!

[twilit sundial]

Hit me up in like 8years for some mining

[north oyster]

I'll join you with my Odyssey 😁

[north oyster]

Duck walking in and out works. I now do that on all outpost stairs especially when I have cargo in the ship

I have a CCU to the Orion, but I think I'm going to straightout get the Odyssey

[pliant matrix]

Are boxes remain on nomad cargo area? some times ago boxes could fly away sometimes xD

[crimson mantle]

No, the open cargo on the nomad is a proper cargo-grid: it's as secured as anything else 🙂

The cargo can be shot though

[pliant matrix]

I see. since a roc can stay I wondered if boxes would stay too

[clever spruce]

I can't seem to get this Cutless Black to scan. I press V to change into scanning mode, approach with ship, scroll wheel until signal strength is 100%, but mouse button clicking doesn't seem to do anything

am I doing something wrong?

[raw shell]

some rocks just won't scan. I haven't been able to get it to work at all on moons. In the Halo and on other ships it normally works, but not always.

[north oyster]

It's not just the Cutlass, it's the scanning mechanics. They are broken at this time is my experience

[swift quiver]

I'll try that as well soon, currently logging in, definitely going to get a game package tho

[north oyster]

On deposits I wouldn't know what they were until I got in the ROC

[clever spruce]

so currently most FPS is broken (accepted issues) and mining on moons is mostly broken too? What loops are working in this patch?

[north oyster]

LOL, it's a mixed bag at best. They have made so many changes that the ramifications have not been fully smooth over in the gameplay. It may take a couple of patches

[raw shell]

when scanning gems on daymar, I noticed that if I move the scanner back and forth across scanned rocks, eventually it will show what the rock is.

[north oyster]

Good tip, I'll try that if I go back to mining anytime soon

[raw shell]

made a huge difference in roc mining. Sucks to land and haul that thing out to discover it's a patch of .10 dolvine rocks

[clever spruce]

do some ships seem to have working scanning on moons? perhaps I can rent one?

[raw shell]

I've been using a rented prospector on lyria two days now. So far nothing has scanned on the ship scanner

mining scanner works of course

just have to be close

[lyric nest]

What are all of your loaners for it?

[twilit sundial]

@lyric nest just a mole and prospector

[lyric nest]

Ah nice so. You can run a mining empire lol

[twilit sundial]

Yes. Yes o can

My name will echo across the community

Not as a man of good standing

But as a tyrant

And I’m sorry that was cringe as fuvk

[fleet pagoda]

can anyone tell me what to do with these boxes? i have no mission for them i found them on another mission

[crimson mantle]

You can sell them for pocket change at a station 🙂

[fleet pagoda]

just any station? sorry im dumb and new

[crimson mantle]

Most likely yes, just go to the admin office and select your ship on the terminal

It will show some cargo in your ship. From there you can just sell 🙂

Won't make you rich though, but it should pay for gas

[fleet pagoda]

im at port tressler rn what about the automated storage? i dont wanna lose the boxes

[crimson mantle]

they will persist

[fleet pagoda]

ok thanks.

[crimson mantle]

even if you have guns and armor and another ship inside your ship, it all persists 🙂

[fleet pagoda]

i was asking in voice chat just some ppl trolling

[crimson mantle]

Free fly is a dangerous time for that 😛

[fleet pagoda]

admin is on the cargo ceter in tressler?

[crimson mantle]

No, it should be on the main level

Yellow doors

[fleet pagoda]

oh

[crimson mantle]

The cargo level is purely cosmetic at this point 😅

[fleet pagoda]

sold one box of hydrogen out of that whole stack lmao

[frail roost]

Galleria, I thought?

[crimson mantle]

I don't know the layout of them all by heart 😅

[frail roost]

Pretty sure every station's Admin office is on the Galleria deck since they reworked stations.

[ember star]

Back in the Mole where I belong. I can’t stand the Prospector

[floral storm]

quick question. I know that every L1 station rents the ROC, however, where can I rent a ROC-DS?

[frail roost]

Can't rent, but you can BUY it at New Deal

[floral storm]

ah, I see, ty mate

[frail roost]

For reference: https://finder.cornerstonebase.space/

[floral storm]

does it fit into a Valkyrie?

[frail roost]

Plug in any item or ship and it'll tell you where to get it.

[frail roost]

Supposedly. Never tried.

Honestly never seen a DS ingame.

[floral storm]

I assume most people don't like to share their profits^^

[frail roost]

Unless the profits are massive enough to be worth it. In which case you're flying a MOLE or trading with security escort.

[floral storm]

well, for a crew of 2 for ROC(k) Mining, it seems to do the trick just fine. Maybe we'll save up for it

I melted my MOLE today, since I fell in love with the Valk

okay, actually it was a CCU, but the point stays

[ember star]

I don’t see the benefits of a ROC-DS. Just use 2 ROCs

But some people like it

[frail roost]

A FreeMax can easily fit 2 ROCs with room to spare.

[clever spruce]

I can't figure out how to use the ROC. I don't see any little rocks it can mine.

[raw shell]

normally you would load it into a ship, like the cutlass black, fly around a moon or planet known to have hadanite or aphorite. You fly as low as you can to the ground, pretty slow.. I go about 55/70mps, and continuously ping (tab key)

you look for either boxes that are 2,000m or less, or gemstones (diamond icons) that show up nearly under your ship. Then you use the ship scanner (v) to scan those rocks to make sure they are hadanite or aphorite, worth landing, driving your roc out and breaking them into little rocks you can suck up with the roc vacuum.

there are a few more "gotchas" to it, but that's the basics

[delicate girder]

If you can scanned while carying drugs like strims you just get fined and not CS right? Is the fine a single amount no matter the quantity you have?

[paper forge]

did they fixed ROC arm collecting with 3.15.1?

[subtle gazelle]

dont think so

[surreal stone]

YOYO , anyone had this issue when they go to terminal cant sellect cargo to sell, follwed sc tools but cant select cargo at destination typical shubin to babbage run

[crimson mantle]

There is a known issue when sometimes the ship won't show up in the list 😦

[surreal stone]

i can select the ship

[crimson mantle]

In 3.14 you could change armor and check the terminal again, sometimes it worked

[surreal stone]

but the cargo wont let me select that

[crimson mantle]

oh

[surreal stone]

astatine and beryl

says go to babbage

[crimson mantle]

what are you trying to sell where?

ok

[surreal stone]

bought on shubin 10

[crimson mantle]

Are you at the admin or the TDD?

Because the admin won't buy that stuff

[surreal stone]

hmm

[north oyster]

Never buy beryl, total waste off your money

[surreal stone]

am at planetside admin i thi8nk

wheres the tdd

[crimson mantle]

You need to sell at TDD

[surreal stone]

i just googled wher trade termin in new babbage

brought me here

commons

thanks for help guys btw

[north oyster]

TTD way in the back, past the mobiglass store

[crimson mantle]

Yup, way at the top
https://dto9r5vaiz7bu.cloudfront.net/9ep6zw7nhgmir/hub_large.png

[surreal stone]

awesome ill try that

thanks guys that worked, ive got a c2 but mostly a pvp and bounty guy just getting into trading. has it gotten any better last few days i was hearing pretty saturated

[north oyster]

Look Jack Axton on YouTube, he has a quick refresher on trade. One of the best in the game

And don't buy scrap, it's broken

[surreal stone]

right already watching him, ill keep up with him

thanks

[humble magnet]

Quant mining is pretty shit , tried 2 new moons and the asteroids, nothing with more than 7% and Ive been at it for hours...if it's just a bad day it's a record one.

[clever spruce]

Wow! That was a great help. I wrote it all down on paper. Thank you.

[still talon]

someone knows a good spot for qaunt mining

[sonic laurel]

lyria

[still talon]

thx i wil check it ou

maybe someone wants to mine with me i have a mole

[raw shell]

My pleasure man. Good luck!

[steel gate]

I want to get a decent cargo ship, newer to the game though. Any suggestions for a good cargo ship on the lower to middle end?

[raw shell]

I recommend the misc max. You can even rent it to try it out

[dreamy crescent]

im sure you guys have had this happen to you... is there any way to avoid these boxes despawning after looting them from a shipwreck?

[hollow sedge]

Have you guys try to mine? I haven’t tried with the mole or the prospector since the last patch. I tried with the ROC but it seems broken. I was hoping mining with the prospector or mole would work better.

[sonic laurel]

freelancer MAX

[raw shell]

yeah, some parts are better than 3.14.. mining scanner isn't nearly as broken. Ship scanner is still broken but they fixed the math when it does work. You have to look for hadanite differently now.. slower, lower. You can still get quant with the prospector but I'm not seeing near the same spawns in the halo as I did in 3.14. In almost a week of mining in the halo, I didn't find anything that would come near to filling up a MOLE. I've just started trying lyria again.. finding rocks but still not sure about filling a mole up.

[hollow sedge]

@raw shell Thanks I’m going to try lyria to get some Quantanium

[raw shell]

would be glad to know if you fill up a MOLE. It's my favorite ship and I've been working toward getting one but I'm afraid CIG has nerfed it into obsolescence.

[sonic laurel]

it hasn't been nerfed though?

[raw shell]

not the ship, but the mining spawns that made the MOLE necessary. Still works great if you want to putter the day around collecting stuff that will get you < 30auc

[sonic laurel]

don't base your opinions off of a single patch

it's a road to misery

not too mention you can always mine lots of other things that aren't quant

[raw shell]

from what I have seen over the past year, mining spawn nerfs just keep getting worse. They haven't gotten better.

[sonic laurel]

and 30k heartbeat means it's safer and more profitable than a prospy

[raw shell]

yep, you can spend all fucking day breaking 6k rocks with 2% bexilite.

and it will take all day to fill up a mole that way.

agrecium.. same shit. They nerfed the spawns into "the hell with this" realm.

[sonic laurel]

wild

[raw shell]

am I wrong?

A year ago, it took some hunting but I could find a group of rocks that would let me fill up a prospector with agricium. It's not near as profitable as quantanium but that was fun as hell. You can't find those spawns any more.

but hey I'm out there trying to prove myself wrong. I want to be wrong. I love quant mining in the MOLE.

if it doesn't get me rich though, it's kinda pointless.

[sonic laurel]

what do you do with those riches?

what is your grinding goal?

[raw shell]

ships, what else?

[sonic laurel]

group vhrt and ert makes almost a million an hour

mining is definitely not the cash GOAT

even last patch which was a good one for the MOLE

[raw shell]

it is when you suck at combat. Plus I'm in a titan starter

[sonic laurel]

Titan can clear VHRT for sure

[raw shell]

if you're good 🙂 I'm not good

[sonic laurel]

have you tried around 56 on Lyria?

I meant SPAL 12

wrong place lol

[raw shell]

I'm not sure what that means. In 3.14 I was doing ok with medium risk bounties in a geared up gladius. That's why I want to make riches.. buy a mole, make more riches, buy better ships, do different things

I've been searching SAL 2 lately

having decent luck, not filling up the prospector but not doing bad, getting refinery jobs in

just now broke a 6k rock with 19% quant

I'll check out SPAL 12 though, thank you for the tip!

[sonic laurel]

if I recall SPAL 12 is situated between two large mountain ranges. roughly within 5km from the foot of mountains in the flat piedmont is where quant loves to spawn most. That facility is simply close to it.

[raw shell]

gotcha, I'll look for that. Thank you very much!