industrial-professions

[copper elk]

should be like this?

[marble crater]

looks like it with the 360 degree text. is it sending out like a wave?

[copper elk]

i dont know?

[marble crater]

oh you're in the ROC sorry. have to scan from the ship

no idea about scanning from the ROC

[copper elk]

do i need to be close at that thing?

the blue circle

[marble crater]

the round rock icon is for ship mining (Prospector/Mole) you're after a diamond icon

[frigid musk]

Best way is to park the roc in a ship.. fly acros the planet.. keep pinging.. and hope for diamonds

[copper elk]

idk how to do it then

[copper elk]

i tried but i cant

[frigid musk]

why not?

[copper elk]

i should see

like a big box blue right?

[frigid musk]

no.. that has changed

That aint no more.

I just take of.. fly in a direction.. keep pinging.. not to far above the ground..

[crimson mantle]

SC Trade Tools

[frigid musk]

suddenly they appear

not an easy task.. getting rich

[copper elk]

what is this 360

[fluid sun]

scan radius, you can change it with . and , i think

[crimson mantle]

When you scan, you can scan all around you or only in a cone in front

[copper elk]

do i need to accept a mission or something

cuz i cant find anything

[frigid musk]

you really just have to fly and scan.

driving is not an option.. they could be kilometers a part from eachother

[copper elk]

nothing..

anyway need to go now ill try later

but i think i am doing something wrong

[unique solar]

whats best to trade rn

[waxen needle]

Is this a bug??

Had about 15 completed refinery orders I loaded up into my ship, and the SCU totals don't seem to change, nor do any of the boxes in the cargo bay appear to be on the ship. Really hoping I didn't just lose the last 24 hours of mining lol

[blissful oxide]

Hi, is there some shorcut to transfer one item from vehicule to local ?
Or is it only drag & drop ?

[rain beacon]

Anyone able to confirm surge module at Shubin in New Babbage?

[tight gyro]

Here now one sec

@rain beacon surge 1 is here

[rain beacon]

Good i need to go pick that up tonight

Thanks

[tight gyro]

Yup

[bright terrace]

have they fixed trading yet?

or is it still bad?

[unique scaffold]

@gusty plinth I can't see the Hud either, it's to bright.

[thin escarp]

already at 22 mole refinery orders

all quant

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-with-money-happy-withmoney-swag-dollars-more-money-gif-14116367

[hollow sedge]

anyone know if roc mineing is fixed yet ?

[narrow geyser]

Anyone know how to get your ship to show up at Brios Breaker Yard? Ive switched servers with my C2 and am unable to get it to show up on the trading console in order to sell cargo..... nothing on google about it it seems

Ok so looks like trading is broken atm? Can't sell anything but minables....

[neon oyster]

Anyone else have the ore sales terminal not recognize your ship? Refining terminal recognizes it but ore sales terminal doesn't.

[subtle gazelle]

is arial a bust this patch? seems like all of the minables spawn inside rock geometry

[waxen needle]

That's not true. I've been doing mining and trade routes pretty consistently with no issues...

[waxen needle]

I'm also mole'n it up right now. What locations are you mining? @thin escarp

[unique solar]

solo?

how much to rent a mole how much profit can i make

im a solo

[waxen needle]

solo just get the prospector

I make about 600-800k an hour with the mole, probably pull off about 4-600k an hour with it i bet

[unique solar]

holy shit

full crew on prosp?

[waxen needle]

prospector is solo

That's quant mining. which you'll need to learn to do if your new

[unique solar]

im doing scrap hauling rn

[unique solar]

yoooooooooo

wtf

i was hauling scrap

and i cant sell

lost 20k

:((((((((((((((((((((

[unique solar]

anyone mining rn

[vague eagle]

me

it wont let me sell it

fucking annoying

[unique solar]

need any help?

[frail roost]

Lost 90k on my Scrap load. Near-full C2.

[unique solar]

im fucking salty

im a new player

and

i got jack shit

lost front gun

[frail roost]

The bright side? Won't lose as much doing a character reset.

[unique solar]

could you help me make some money later?

[frail roost]

DM me your name ingame, I can send you 50k or so next time I'm on.

Logging off for the night right now though.

[unique solar]

alright goodnight

thanks so much man

[odd meadow]

The auto ship storage in Teasa space port made my ship undetectable and its filled with cargo and if a claim my ship I'd loose all my money

[real yew]

Quantanium mining is completely broken in my experience. Right after I collected the first Quantanium the red alarm started and soon after the cargo went critical.

And the mining HUD is very hard to read now. It's very difficult to see the mining laser gauge level

[waxen needle]

This hasn't happened to me yet. however the hud is a bit glitchy and the hitbox is jacked, oh and the scanner not working 80% of the time is by biggest issue

[real yew]

the V key scanner doesn't work at all for me.
Mining laser scanner works but rocks often have to be re-scanned when deciding which ones to harvest

and yesterday after I finally found a somewhat useable Quantanium asteroid, as soon as I picked up the first Q, the loud red alarm went off and approx. 30 seconds later blew up.

had to alt-F4 out of the game b/c the Prospector was rendered uncontrollable after the explosion

[vague eagle]

It won’t even let me get out of the prospector

[real yew]

not even with exit seat key?

works for me but then again I'm using a female character

[cerulean trench]

Anything I can do about not being able to pick up boxes?

[urban sky]

where can i mine hedanite

[real yew]

If I claim a ship full of cargo the cargo is lost?

[shell edge]

@real yew Yes, correct

a claim is an insurance claim, you get a new ship from the insurance company

[weak phoenix]

hey guys im pretty new to all of star citizen but i was just wondering where i can buy or rent the ROC

[buoyant frost]

anyone know how to trade from Reclamation & Disposal Orinth

why dosn't the trading console show up my ship

[fluid sun]

i believe lorville has it

[weak phoenix]

well i was just at new deal and it wasnt up as an option

[fluid sun]

it was on the ptu, sry

new babbage then probably, since it's got ground access

[weak phoenix]

wait wheres the dealership on New B then

[reef narwhal]

Refinerys rent them out

[weak phoenix]

gotcha will have a look around

cheers

[faint hull]

Hi guys, I recommend you to not go mining with Graycat ROC because the "gem" rocks are near impossible to find with scans. use PROSPECTOR instead . here's a reply in a reddit post : I still find rocks it's just way less efficient as before. I can spend 15-20min flying around not finding anything.

And yes the extraction mode is bugged. The rocks are floating around the beam. But if you don't move and wait they end up being taken.

[weak phoenix]

so roc mining isnt really worth it at all then?]

[frigid musk]

I spend 1,5h for 100k

using my cutty to search for the gems.

but it's really hard and dangerous to fly so close to the surface or else you will miss them

But renting a prospector isn't doing much good either.. you can't change the heads

[frozen niche]

is the constellation taurus actually immune to cargo scans like it says on the tin?

[marble crater]

not even sure if cargo scanning is in the game yet

[frozen niche]

yeah but against npc's

[marble crater]

hmm not sure I have a Taurus but have never had my cargo scanned

[mint cloud]

Any ideas where scrap can be sold?

been informed that selling scrap is fucked via global chat... rip

[north oyster]

It is very difficult and mega buggy. I finally have up and parked mine. Scanning is hosed, collection is hosed, laser fails, the cooler fails with little use, etc etc etc

[shell edge]

@mint cloud yes, scrap is scrapped... latest hotfix switched port olisar and orison from purchasing scrap to selling it, so the two last places to sell scrap is now selling it. Scrapyards are intended places to sell scrap, but they are bugged, and do not recognize ships on the trade terminals.

[north oyster]

Scrap selling seems to be bugged out. Might want to do chlorine or other trade starter

[mint cloud]

bit late... full M2 of Scrap

;-;

[shell edge]

had a C2 full of scrap, checked all the places...no place bought it...had to claim it eventually

[mint cloud]

yeah.. i may have to do this as well and rely on the kindness of my friends to recover

[north oyster]

I would recommend finding Jack Axton's refresher course video on trade

[mint cloud]

I was doing fine, it's just this one scrap run that fucked me

[north oyster]

And stay away from scrap

[mint cloud]

was fitting it into a loop to make extra cash

[north oyster]

I would also encourage to never over leverage

[mint cloud]

I ahve ~20k left.. should be fine

just less margin for error now

[north oyster]

Yes, good base

Try chlorine because you can loop it on a single planet

Gold is good too because not often traded

[crimson mantle]

I will add fluorine to that list: it's very abundant and the margin is great

[snow flare]

i have not played in a few patches..how is mining with a prospector these days? and how about the ROC and hand mining?

[crimson mantle]

Scanning is different, but mining is largely unchanged

[snow flare]

how so with the scanning? better? worse? can you hand mine on planet surfaces?

also..which is a better money maker with 3.15? cargo hauling or mining?

[crimson mantle]

ROC minables are reportedly hard to find now

As for money making, it depends on your cargo ship

[snow flare]

i would have a Maxx....

@crimson mantle

im thiking ill make more nad better money with a prospector?

[crimson mantle]

You can always go mine and trade while your loads refine.

Are you aware of the refineries?

[snow flare]

no i have not used them at all..

how can i trade if i only have a prospector though? i can only afford one...

do you make more money if you refine it?

[crimson mantle]

I would recommend watching a quick guide on refineries. Both mining and trading work well in this patch.

[snow flare]

ok sure will1

[crimson mantle]

You double your money if you refine the prospector/mole materials.

But the original value has been slashed in 2, so you make your money back by refining*

https://sc-trade.tools/ores/Spaceship

[snow flare]

@crimson mantle am i seeing that right? if you refine, then you need a cargo ship to haul the refined materials to seel?

[crimson mantle]

Correct

[snow flare]

darn

i wonder...can you still use a small ship to transport your refined goods? after refining them, will they be large hauls?

[crimson mantle]

The prospector is 32 SCU

so anything with at least that will be OK

[snow flare]

ohhh ok..so can you keep refining and refining, and just make more cargo trips?

[crimson mantle]

Yes

But you cannot break up a refined load, you have to load it all at once

[snow flare]

oh ok

[marble crater]

Renting a ship to sell the refined ore is also an option

[floral storm]

the trading console in "The Orphanage" doesn't show my ship, any Ideas why?

[crimson mantle]

I heard a lot of people having issues with the outposts recognizing their ships 😕

In 3.14 you could change armor to sometimes fix it.

[floral storm]

o.O Changing Armor of all things? Sounds strange

[crimson mantle]

I don't pretend to understand how that works xD

[vague eagle]

I cant sell unrefined ore and its pissing me off

[floral storm]

aaaand the cutlass is gone...

flew out of orbit, logged out in bed, logged back in and the ship crashed on the moon while I was getting up

there go 50k Laranite

[vague eagle]

f

[glad trench]

Lancet and powerups are good enuf for any rock right?

[vague eagle]

just a lancet works for me

but if you arent experienced at mining i recommend power ups

[rich hatch]

How does mining look in 3.15?

[faint spruce]

sigh, came here to find out if it was just me or an issue with scrap

[north oyster]

And you're right, it's not just you- There is a bad issue with scrap

[real yew]

not good

[vague eagle]

broken cant sell shit and get stuck in your seat half the time

[real yew]

• mining scan mode not working
• mining HUD not readable
• Quant goes critical right after collecting

[vague eagle]

I havent had the critical thing yet

[real yew]

well i got it yesterday and stopped bothering mining for then

and for cargo hauling the game actually now feels even more risky than before. so many bugs that can ruin it

[vague eagle]

true

[real yew]

I loaded up a C2 with cargo, left the shop, tripped on the stairs, lost almost all health, then health went back up but i was stuck in an unarmed combat anim loop and couldn't move away

[vague eagle]

every gameplay loop needs to be fixed

[real yew]

Alt F4 left the game. came back. flew to the same outpost, the trade terminal says the ship is there and fully loaded but the ships is not there

I wish i had the option to sell the cargo back right there at the same price

[vague eagle]

hm

i just stored my ship and it says its unknown great

[faint spruce]

Grim hex does that to me every time

[vague eagle]

The amount of bugs in 3.15 are insane

The game is almost entirely unplayable

[sage hedge]

Anyone wanna do some delivery with me

I have an aurora lx

[vague eagle]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-22382 opt to fix this shit

[obsidian stone]

Here's a new one. Anyone mysteriously lose their helmet while trading? I stepped into an airlock after filling my C2 and suffocated. Lost the 200k+ load.

[pale crane]

Hey guys i'm gonna try mining. Where is the best refinery for quantanium ?

[crimson mantle]

Since quantainium explodes in 15 mins, the one you are closest to
https://sc-trade.tools/refineries

[glad trench]

is arc l3 still epic for quantum like it was in 3.13 or is there a new god spot

[crimson mantle]

Still good: https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Spaceship%2522,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%2522Quantainium%2520%2528Raw%2529%2522%255D,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522,%2522locationTypes%2522:%255B%2522Asteroid%2520field%2522,%2522Lagrangian%2520point%2522%255D,%2522locationTypesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522%257D

[real yew]

Over 10,000 issues!

Please confirmthis issue if you got a minute

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-21472

[polar flame]

Is stock mole able to mine most rocks decently now? Or would I need some upgrades to get the bigger quant rocks?

[vague eagle]

Ok

[crimson oak]

Sooo i just tried roc mining again now for the first time in months, seems as buggy as it ever was, couldnt extract any of the hadanite gems. Also the Pembroke armour seems to be bugged, it was 125 degrees on Ariel and i was wearing both the suit and the helmet spec'd for 225 in the positive yet I was getting 7 minutes of livability outside my ship.

in that 7 minutes i was able to crack only one rock and unable to extract anything before i got warnings and almost died.

soo here's hoping regular prospector mining is working ok.

[vague eagle]

it works jsut selling it is the problem

[ancient ivy]

Guys mining in Aaron halo. I’ve been out mining and when I do it all works fine but finding the quant using the manual visual method that was so successful for me in 3.14 I’m struggling with finding any clusters that way the Aaron halo seems twice as dense as normal and really hard to see clusters anyone else getting the same?

[hexed harness]

Hello! What are good places to mine in 3.15? Im looking at trying my hand at Quantainium mining, and I am looking for good places to find some

[vague eagle]

well id try near one of the mining L3 outposts

just a heads up that shit doesnt let you sell it unrefined its a bug

it might for you but it doesnt for me

[spark cradle]

Hello I need help for two things :

1. I'm based at Orison, but I would like to rent a ROC, but how can I take a ROC (in my ship) at Orison ? Is there any solution for that ?
2. Where can I sell Scrap ??? Every location where I could sell it, scrap is grey out.
   thanks for your help

[hexed harness]

Thank you!

[vague eagle]

1. Orison doesn't allow you to spawn land vehichles. So take it to a Aid Station on daymar and go to the vehichle spawner. 2. Theres a bug with selling scrap so im not sure of a work around or well you can sell it aat

[spark cradle]

Thanks a lot. 1. Ok so no need to be at the spawn location to take a land vehicule.
2. Ho god... My C2 is full of scrap... with almost all my auec ... God.

Thanks

[hexed harness]

Try claiming your C2 to spawn another at a different station. Might get rid of the scrap, freeing up your c2

You will likely lose the scrap though. I mean, you couldnt sell it anyways, so

[spark cradle]

Yes it seems the only good solution. Thanks a lot for your help

[cold onyx]

anyone moving cargo around i need a job

im broke and i really need money

im down to my last dollar lol

[hollow sedge]

Anyone know if ROC mining is still busted

[crimson oak]

my experience earlier

there was someone else in chat on the same server who said he was roc mining fine though, so maybe it was just an issue for me

i would love to hear other peoples experiences though, with the pembroke armour especially, since i could maybe discount the extracting issues to lag/server issues.

[hollow sedge]

Hmmm

I’ll have to check it out later tonight, but it does seems there only specific people that are being affected

[vague eagle]

Anyone able to sell from the Prospector unrefined

[jagged saddle]

Yup, sold unrefinednfrom prospector at hur l4, no worries.

[floral storm]

is that normal? I'm at Klescher's with a full inventory, but I can't seem to deposit the minerals

[latent pasture]

yo

so port tressler wont let me sell my distilled spirits

[vague eagle]

How tf

[latent pasture]

I've server hopped 8 times now

anywhere else I could sell em that yous know of?

[cedar chasm]

was also experiencing...its better now though...still uncommon finding it but better

[crimson oak]

cheers, im hoping it will work properly next time i try to go roc mining again

[nocturne rain]

Is Lyria still a good place to mine quantanium? 🙂

[crimson mantle]

It's not bad, but you're better off on microTech's moons: https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Spaceship%2522,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%2522Quantainium%2520%2528Raw%2529%2522%255D,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522%257D

[glad trench]

current best spot on microtechs moons for quant?

i know someone posted a 11k mass quantum roid a few months ago

[coarse cape]

is anyone else having problems opening the trade console at like necro and outpost 54?

when i press location nothing shows up or it just doesnt work

[north oyster]

Originally ROC mining was going to be one of my primary sources to get things going after the wipe. However, despite the radar ping being totally worthless, now the scan is totally shot. You can only occasionally ID the ore when you finally find some so you don't know what the deposits are any longer. Then the collection isn't working, the laser fails and also the coolers in the ROC fail super fast. I parked the ROC and now only trade

[cerulean ravine]

So... I'm new to trading, but how the heck do you find a place selling enough of a commodity to make it worth while? I took my carrack and 150K credits to Cellin, hit up 3 farms to buy spirits, and only ended up with ~30K worth of goods to sell... where am I supposed to go??

[crimson mantle]

With a carrack you should try to trade the big bulk commodities, like Fluorine, Titanium, Gold, Diamond

[cerulean ravine]

Oh interesting, ok thanks!

[north oyster]

This a great primer
https://youtu.be/7NxTYWawbvM

[glad trench]

just searched clio for 2 hours, not 1 quant deposit

[thin escarp]

got a big ole mining operation starting at 10pm est

if anyone is interested.

no exp needed

curretly 33 in party and counting

[shadow nebula]

Is Galaxy Logistics updated?

[muted phoenix]

Damn seat bug

[valid oracle]

What button is it to scan the contents of a rock

[vague eagle]

Change to a woman

[hallow fractal]

How is mining with the mole in 3.15? Havnt mined since before refinery

[delicate girder]

Wow! What an interface! There sure doesn't tell me how much dolivine I have! How do I find out? I know that it's 7% of 800k so I guess I can do the math. WTF!

How do I put that in a box?

[tulip sparrow]

@delicate girder your mining ?

[delicate girder]

Trying to.

[tulip sparrow]

you got extra space?

[delicate girder]

You mean for you to come?

People where saying that bugs were fixed and it works better. I'm not seeing it so far.

You used to be able to easilty transfer it all to you backpack (provided the space) or a box.

I don't see how to do that now.

Another question which is more important in the near future. If I fly my cuttie to a port with the ROC inside will it still retain the ROC inside the cargo in the ROC if I store the ship?

[hallow swallow]

yes it will. i don't know who is saying roc mining is fixed, because it most definitely not.

[delicate girder]

Can you sell stuff out of a ROC at CRU-L1?

[hallow fractal]

Where can the HelixII be bought because Erkuls isnt right about tammany and sons or universal item finder (HUR L1)

[delicate girder]

I'm going to CRU-L1 now I'll tell you it there when I get there.

The diet they're doing is really affective!

[hallow fractal]

is that cru1?

Can you check if helix head is there?

[delicate girder]

It looks like the Helix II is here. I'll take a pic

[hallow fractal]

I was wrong about HUR1 because the wall was not rendered for me...

[steep badge]

@hallow fractal hur1 has everything mining related you could ever need

The shop terminals for all shops that sell a bunch of types of things are bugged

[hallow fractal]

Ya I missed the heads they were not on the wall when I was at Hur1

[steep badge]

If you mouse over the categories (like "personal weapon"), and scroll mouse wheel, you'll see other tabs appear

Hur1 should contain all mining lasers and modules

Oh I misread your message, looks like you found them after all lol

[hallow fractal]

correct

Is there a standard sub item to have with the helix ?

[steep badge]

Dealer's choice. Helix is the max power one right?

[hallow fractal]

I believe so

[steep badge]

I've read guides that recommend putting the xlr and the fltr xl on it

[delicate girder]

Shouldn't you be able to sell the ore out of you ROC in you cuttie at CRU-L1 at the ore selling terminal?

[steep badge]

@delicate girder good question, I'd hope so but idk

It doesn't help that when your ship is docked, sometimes it bugs out and doesn't show up on the ore selling terminal anyway

Is it not showing up for you?

[delicate girder]

Yes, it's not showing up.

I don't want to got to PO if I don't have to.

[hallow swallow]

how much ore were you able to extract with the ROC? My last attempt I was able to collect 14.9scu before it no longer wanted to extract anymore. the gems just kept swirling around the mining head.

[hallow fractal]

Mining modules have a one time use only?

[delicate girder]

How do I store suit/armor in a Cuttie? For a moment when in the Cuttie I was able to see the Cuttie's inventory, but I can't get that back.

[hallow fractal]

once in ship you bring up inventory should be a tab up top switch from local to ship

[delicate girder]

I'll try that.

Anyone know a port that might let my sell the ore in my ROC? I can't get CRU-L1 to recognize that it's there. I've put the ship on the pad to check that it's still there and it is. I, of course stored it again.

The problem is that the cuttie and ROC are rented and I only have a few hours left.

[marble crater]

I've sold at Everus Admin Office

try the Admin Office at CRU-L1

[delicate girder]

Ah ok

Duh, that worked. Thought you had to sell it at the refinery.

[marble crater]

noice!

[tulip sparrow]

where do i sell waste and such

[leaden reef]

theres no point in buying or selling waste

[delicate girder]

Bet they got waste from a mission so might as well try eh?

[leaden reef]

.001 sell value

0.01

[delicate girder]

LOL

It should be more valuable at groweries!

[pliant slate]

so what's the deal with selling scrap right now?

[glad trench]

is it me or do space rocks tend to always have higher mass then planet rocks and also quantanium yields, unless theres a secret spot on microtech, checked its moons all day yesterday nodda, goto an asteroid belt. 2 quant 50 rocks in 10 minutes. with 5k mass

gonna try lyria next

[pliant slate]

i've got a hold full of scrap, and can't find anywhere that will actually buy it

[sage geyser]

where should i go to mine laranite?

or bexalite

[worthy snow]

Both the places on Ariel are good for Laranite to then sell to Loreville

[tulip dune]

hey, will the cargo delivery misson change with my location?

like different deliveries at different places

[sage geyser]

so ariel is good place for mining them and refine in hur l1 and sell in loreville?

@worthy snow ?

[tulip dune]

a picture from my job

[pine sky]

I had the same problem today.. Had to reset my charachter.

Now I am full of Agricium and I can't sell it...... Is it a bug? Or am I being a noob?

[sage geyser]

if i am correct you can sell only what commodity is needed can check on journal

[pine sky]

Nevermind... I am done with it for now - The ship just disappeared and I could only claim it from the spaceport for some reason. So the cargo is gone, of course, as is ALL my money

That given that the ship was parked properly

[jagged saddle]

Allo, I'm doing a lil belt mining in the prospector to earn my trading capital for 3.15, what head do I go for? Not necessarily for quantanium, I tend to just mine what's there be it diamond or whatever. Internet seems to think the Lancet, but it looks to be lower power than other heads, any advice greatly appreciated.

[jagged saddle]

Scraps fkd at the moment. Can't sell it, greyed out on the consoles.

[raw shell]

Lancet is good for quantanium to avoid it blowing up in yoour face. I yhink the helios is most powerful

[jagged saddle]

Is there a noticible difference with the stock arbour and the Lancet? Like I said, not fussed about compromising just for stability for quantanium, I know it's a money maker, but I tend to log in for 30 m8ns, grab what rocks are there and log off after setting the refinery job.

I'm more of a quantity over quality miner

[raw shell]

Yes it makes the green zone a bit bigger, I think. Hence good for quantanium

[hallow swallow]

if you log in for 30mins, you'll 100% need a lancet

[raw shell]

Or the red zone smaller, I forget

[hallow swallow]

both, but it also makes the energy more stable.

that's the biggest pro of the lancet, it reduces instability by something like 75%

[jagged saddle]

So I'll see a considerable benefit on non quantanium rocks with the Lancet?

[raw shell]

Only if your prone to blowing rocks up

[jagged saddle]

Nope, only once this patch

[raw shell]

I'd go for power then.

[jagged saddle]

If I want to mine rocks of 5000 or over lancets to weak right?

[raw shell]

Well, depends. You can use modules like surge and stampede to get around that

[jagged saddle]

Another cost though. Imbtrying to make it as cost neutral as possible. So I've got a fltr mod. Rather stay away from consumables.

[raw shell]

I use that combo exclusively, btw. Lancet, surge, stampede. I go for quant though

[jagged saddle]

Yeah, not fussed about quant at the moment. I don't really have the time to hunt for it. I'll het a setup sorted for when I do have the time, but im gunning for a in and out take what's there first.

Thanks for the help giys, lancets of my list.

[raw shell]

Once you bring in a full load of quant you'll never go back ;)

[jagged saddle]

L8ls, I used to just go hunting for quant but no time just now.

[hallow fractal]

Where is quant found in 3.15

[marble crater]

Could go Helix and a passive stability + filter mod

[jagged saddle]

That's what's looking good just now yeah.

[marble crater]

At least you'll be able to crack the rocks but will be a bit trickier with instability.

[raw shell]

I went to the halo in 3.14. It will be weeks before I can get a prospector

Till then I'm stuck with hadanite and a roc

[jagged saddle]

How is hadanite? I made at least a million in 3.13 with my cutty and a roc....

Should I just save for a roc and do that instead?

[raw shell]

Meh, it's a grind. Roc is better than in 3.14 but still has problems

[jagged saddle]

Hmmm... at least break8ng rocks and refining anyth8ng aluminium to corrubdum is stable. And I got my routine from Mic l1 sorted.

[raw shell]

Im just renting a cutty and roc till I can afford a prosp

[jagged saddle]

But then your going for quant, r8ght?

[raw shell]

Right

[jagged saddle]

A rocs only like 60k ain't it?

[marble crater]

Halt Surveillance Missions are quick & easy credits too

[raw shell]

Oh not sure, havent looked

[jagged saddle]

I've decided to be a miner till 3.15.1 so no bounties no packages, nothing. Self imposed rule.

[marble crater]

ROC is almost 200k but can rent for 4K

[raw shell]

The surveillance mission frequency was nerfed

[hallow swallow]

Yeah man, If I can get half load of quant i'm still happy.

[jagged saddle]

I've been actively avoiding quant, don't think my stock qt drive is fast enough to get from belt back to Mic l1 and store...

[raw shell]

My goal is to get to a mole

[marble crater]

Nice rhyme

[jagged saddle]

I do have a picies I could pullnthebfaster drive from....

[hallow swallow]

where were you planning to quant mine?

[raw shell]

Mole quant mining is the shiznit

[jagged saddle]

I always start at Mic l1 set for hurr l4 and drop out of qt 7.1mkm from hur l4

[hallow swallow]

to end up in the halo belt right?

[jagged saddle]

Yup

Hold on, I shouldnstartnfrom hur l4.... duh

If doing quant

[hallow swallow]

yeah the stock drive, is fine for that distance. you only need to land and store your vehicle. the quant will be safe once the ship is stored.

[frigid musk]

What's the best way to find the rock you want?

just fly and fly?

oh and hi guys 😄

[hallow swallow]

nah there is a system somewhat for scanning.

[jagged saddle]

For hur l4 to the belt or for Mic l1 to the belt?

[hallow swallow]

but the scanning is semi-borked right now.

[frigid musk]

when i scan.. i get the boxes.. but have to get really close to see what's in the rocks

been flying over arial... mostly aluminium and quartz 😦

or highly inert rocks

which you can't dump ..

[hallow swallow]

ah i'm more familiar with quant mining the belt. finding on surface i find it tough.

[frigid musk]

can I do that with a rented prospector?

[hallow swallow]

hold on i need to see a visual of the map.

I personally do quant mining on the crusader side.

[jagged saddle]

Lols, thanks for the help mate. Much appreciated.

[hallow swallow]

short travel, plus 3% additional value to refined quant at the cru L1 refinery.

[jagged saddle]

I'm based out of microtech for this patch.

[hallow swallow]

cool cool

still fine. quant earns good money regardless.

[jagged saddle]

I'll have a play about later today, and see if I can't get some quant into the refinery.

[frigid musk]

how big are the L asteroid fields actually?

some rocks I can't even scan

[tulip dune]

guys where to buy a backpack around Microtech?

[hallow swallow]

hmm actually the belt does look a little far from mic L1

[jagged saddle]

I'll try from hur l4

[hallow swallow]

it has a refinery?

[jagged saddle]

I believe so... I'll have to check... but im sure I went to check out m8n8ng heads on the wall there... I was having a joint at the time so it's all a little fuzzy....

[hallow swallow]

haha. well check it out. and you could always do a test run. fly out, get to the belt and time ithe trip back with the stock drive.

[hallow swallow]

L asteroids?

[frigid musk]

na the fields around lagrange points

[hallow swallow]

ah right. haven't had much success there personally.

[frigid musk]

it's really hard to find the right rock

Wouldn't it be cool if we could modify these ships later 🙂

like drop inerts 🙂

more storage

pretty sure i can't scan some rocks

[blissful oxide]

Are module broken ?
Got Surge / Optimium equiped
But when I do 1, 2 or 3, nothing happen

[marble crater]

Alt + 1

[blissful oxide]

Fuck

Well, that worked x)

Missed optimum with a second surge

rip

[marble crater]

That second surge timing can be damn tricky on large rocks

[frigid musk]

guys, what can you do to improve the rock finding ? having a really hard time

[blissful oxide]

quanta mining ?

[frigid musk]

well anything better then titatnium

i fly around .. and scan.. some i can't even scan

[marble crater]

Get into the Halo belt for starters

[frigid musk]

is that the ring around the sun?

apologies to be so inquisitory

[sage geyser]

where the lancet mh1 sold at?

[blissful oxide]

https://finder.cornerstonebase.space/ShipMiningHeads1/ba94a262-bc0a-4484-9bbd-a4be7a2ec3e7

[sage geyser]

that is not correct as i checked 4 places and none of them sold it

@blissful oxide

one of them sold the mh2 though xD

[north oyster]

Jake Axton just did a State of Trade update. Lots of detailed trade info but also excellent tips and tricks in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CiNTA-Ef2Q

[blissful oxide]

Bought mine at New Babbage

[sage geyser]

ty

[crimson mantle]

You have to horizontally scroll to see them 😄

[sage geyser]

wdym

[frigid musk]

Read about the halo ... let me try it out 🙂

[sage geyser]

wdym scroll

scroll where

[crimson mantle]

The shop window

[sage geyser]

there is no terminal

[crimson mantle]

it will reveal the additional mining heads

[sage geyser]

in the refineries for mining

only on the wall

or you meant literally when looking at it on the wall?

[north oyster]

If you didn't see a sell terminal, then they didn't render for you or you were in the wrong place

[crimson mantle]

so wherever you saw only the few mining heads (but not the one you were looking for), scroll and the rest should appear

[north oyster]

There are two types of terminals in the store, one for rental and one for purchases

[marble crater]

https://cornerstonebase.space/login/articles/articles/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes-3-14-0-live-rel1-2

Hope that helps kinda hard to explain in text lol

[north oyster]

Arron's Halo is a great place (to mine or hide).

[marble crater]

Yep lots of rocks and safe

[north oyster]

ROC mining is FUBAR and should be avoided unless you're masochist.

1. Ship Ping continues to be worthless unless within 1k of deposit.
2. SCAN is broken, so you will not know what the deposit is (usually, I did have scan work once) until you get the ROC to scan it.
3. Collecting the gems is broken
4. The Laser fails (not as common as last patch)
5. The internal components of the ROC, i.e. the "coolers" now fail at a very high rate
   ROC mining was originally one of my core activities for post-wipe recovery, but it is practically worthless at the moment. You can make it work but the profit earned for the time invested is upside down.

[white dove]

hey is there a bug buying from places like private property where there is no landing pad

[north oyster]

I didn't have any issues last night. DON'T BUY SCRAP

[white dove]

seems it wont pickup ships when parked outside

[north oyster]

I was at several outpost with no pads. I was running a Taurus for trade.

[white dove]

thanks, might be server related. i checked issue council and saw alot of reports so i just added to that

[north oyster]

Have you tested it with an outpost with a pad? Ship might be bugged

Ah, good thing to know

[white dove]

outpost with pad works, i see it is a current known bug

[north oyster]

OK, I was dodging the bullet last night it seems then

[white dove]

yea must have been luckily, but ill try another server then, thanks

[frigid musk]

thank you

[real yew]

Wala is broken in 3.15

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-22474

now they are breaking whole moons!

[lavish nimbus]

Where can I buy a lancet mining head in 3.15? I've been wandering around CRU-L1 for the past half hour looking for a store that I'm not 100% sure exists

[blissful oxide]

Can we transport mining modules ? (surge)

[glad trench]

How.is.it broken

[blissful oxide]

markers are broken, but you can easily avoid the issue with the double click

easy as that, dunno why people tagged it "critical"

[lavish nimbus]

Is there a new guide to mining in 3.15? It seems like a lot has changed. I can't even find a place to buy new mining heads... or even clues as to where I can find one

[tulip dune]

I bought one in microTech

[blissful oxide]

Same, bought head and modules in Microtech

currently transporting all modules to the refinery

[shadow nebula]

Can anyone recommend a website for tracking commodity prices?

[crimson mantle]

LIVE prices?
There are a few, but they rely on people updating them by hand. There is no automatic way to get up-to-date data 😦

[shadow nebula]

Something close enough is good enough

I noticed that some items update more often, but they're also less profitable

[crimson mantle]

So, my website has the base prices for everything: https://sc-trade.tools

The community updated ones are

• https://www.gallog.co/
• https://uexcorp.space/

I don't know how updated these other ones are

[shadow nebula]

Yeah I was on gallog, they don't have Orison on the list, so ig not very updated

[white minnow]

is the prospector mining gui glitching for everyone? it has like a "hacked" effect, flickering and stuff... not working at all

[hallow fractal]

Most of my ships are doing that right now too

[blissful oxide]

Yeah, that's all ships

[rare sky]

Gui also seems really bright now. Would like a way of toning it down.
And to transport modules just equip a backpack and move them there. Drop at your base if ops

[frigid musk]

the prospector gui is just too close to us

something you can't change

[worldly vector]

Has anyone had luck finding hadanite to mine with the roc? Aberdeen seems to be very very little if anything. Tried Arial and also almost nothing.

[frigid musk]

it's just hard to find with the current restrictions in scanning

at the moment i can call mining hardly any profitable

just takes so long to search

[worldly vector]

Ok, haven't followed to know what the restrictions are but yea the amount of time it takes to find anything is almost not worth it. Can burn a tank of fuel and barely get half a load.

Thanks

[frigid musk]

with the roc it's smart to fly over the landscape

[worldly vector]

I normally stay about 1,000 k off the ground so fairly close.

[frigid musk]

ship mining is imho not fun at all atm

especially when you rent a ship

it's just not doable with this mining head

[neon shard]

Do you know what the price distributions are? As in, what is the absolute highest a commodity can be price and what is the absolute lowest price?

[crimson mantle]

It can be calculated yes, but I don't have them readily available.

When I have some more free time I'll try go get that info in the website

[neon shard]

awesome!

I'm trying to collect data to create probability distributions for things like price and stock right now

[crimson mantle]

I'm mostly cautious as the big cargo refactor is on the roadmap, so I didn't want to spent dozens of hours cracking that code just to have to throw it out the window the next patch 😄

The curves are all in the data files

[neon shard]

understandable

[glad trench]

Cargo refractor on road map oh my gosh wht

[frigid musk]

what's a cargo refractor?

[frigid musk]

Thanks!

[north oyster]

Sadly, the Prospector rental is basically a "trainer" and not an "earner". The most you can do is high volume of low-end material and sell it raw. It is hard just to earn your investment back from the rental cost.

ROC mining is broken beyond any hope of being profitable if you are trying to use it as a rental

[vague eagle]

how is it broken just curious

[crimson mantle]

It's very hard to find the deposits and, once you do, it's very hard to collect the gems.

[pliant slate]

any advice for a hold full of scrap?

[cedar flower]

grinding box missions is worth it now
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/880228503344271391/909515730049957889/unknown.png?width=1440&height=603

[pliant slate]

okay, so new fun thing. my carrack with a full cargo hold got stored at PO last night. Now it says it's at PO and status is unkown

with the only option being to claim the ship

the buy and sell terminal is seeing the ship, but the ASOP terminal does not

[north oyster]

Unfortunately, "reclaim" is your only option. Scrap is completely broken with CIG's "hotfix"

[north oyster]

ROC mining? The ROC itself is semi-functional but everything that is needed for ROC mining to be successful is not functional, or at best, it's hosed and makes ROC mining anything but a profitable use of your time. I'll break down aspect but in quick summary

1. Radar Ping (which was listed as a "known issue" the whole time 3.14 was in the PTU) is unable to detect deposits unless within 1000 meters of the ship. Previous ping returns were approx 2200 meters. Just before 3.14 went LIVE the known issue was suddenly changed by CIG to "works as intended" and it is hosed through and through.
2. Radar Scan is broken. You may get a scan result on your ship's radar if you're lucky but most of the time you have no idea what it is and have to break out the ROC to go find out. Worthless waste of time
3. Collection laser on collecting gems. the FPS issue isn't on the LIVE build so the surface tension problem from before might be resolved (mileage varies)
4. The Laser (cracking) swaps roles with the collector - not as common as in 3.14 but still there
5. The components in the ROC break down rapidly, lucky to have coolers last more than one or two trips to the field.
   These are the prime offenders. ROC mining has gone through worst times but sad to see it trashed like this. Maybe one day it'll get some attention. It's not high on the list considering all the other stuff going on.

If Scanning would function, I could deal with the other failures (As Usual). But scanning issue is a deal breaker

[vague eagle]

hm makes sense I can see how it could be a pain

I feel like most gameplay loops currently have some sort of major problem with them

prospector mining is working for me and is the only one I think is worth the time

[north oyster]

I'll break out my Prospector soon, I'm still running trade routes before I do that. Then I will mix up the game play. ROC mining was part of my post wipe rebuild plan but had to scrap all that and go straight to trade.

Trade isn't bad but I would rather be out mining in the ROC than running trade.

[tender locust]

I was looking into doing Quantum mining with a Prospector. What would be a good head and consumables to use?

[north oyster]

Lancet is the laser you want to use. Consumables would probably be Surge and Stampede. At least those are the two I use.

I would recommend learning how to find Aaron's Halo and mining there

[tender locust]

What do the Surge and Stampede do?

[north oyster]

You will want to use CRU-L1 for your base of operation because it gives a 3% bonus on Quan refinery

[tender locust]

Any moons with a good quantity of Quantanium?

[north oyster]

Check SC Trade, he has a break down of the odds of finding it on the different moons and planets.

I primarily use the asteroid belt for all my mining

Quick Tip to find it from CRU-L1. Point the ship towards ARC-L3 and do a QT Jump. At 11.5M km from ARC-L3 drop out of QT travel. You will be in the middle of the belt.

Here is listing of all points to find the belt

[tender locust]

Awesome! Thank you for the help

[north oyster]

I would only use ARC-L3 as a target if you mine Quantainium because of the time to travel

Of course disregard the distance to Delamar 😦

[blissful oxide]

I also suggest Lyria for QT mining
Mined ~200scu of QT today there

[gentle roost]

How many SCU of cargo is needed to start making profit?

[cedar flower]

well, how much profit are you talking?

you can make some with even 1 SCU, but it aint much

[crimson mantle]

To beat missions?
Something at least as large as a Freelancer MAX/Constellation Taurus

But any amount is good to trade, especially if you are already going from point A to B as part of something else 🙂

https://sc-trade.tools/en-route

[sonic laurel]

what?

that's the payout of an 890 mission...

how do you unlock those giga-missions?

[cedar flower]

get to rep level 2 on box missions

takes 5-8 deliveries

be aware though: enemies can spawn there

[sonic laurel]

well given how ill-fated my attempts to solo the 890 have been

I need a source of money to fund my terrible ideas

[cedar flower]

bounties, or be a box boi

best places are microtech and hurston from what I have been told

[sonic laurel]

well I want to do a lot more FPS stuff this patch

I chained millions in bounties in 3.13 and 3.14

kinda tired of it

[viral orbit]

How does the multitool battery work? Does it recharge or is it like clips

[viral orbit]

Also how big of rocks can the mining tool take down?

[split minnow]

In 3.15 each section of PO has its own ship storage...so make sure you check which section you park at. Doing an EVA from whatever section you spawn in to the section you parked at will let you spawn your ship. E.G. you parked at 'A' 00 then when you log back in you find yourself in 'D' section, go outside, jump off the edge and Superman fly over to 'A' section. Go inside and use the terminal and you should be able to spawn your ship.

[chrome beacon]

A few days ago I bought cargo with my C2, then tried to sell it at an outpost. I was landed right next to the building, but I could no select my ship from the drop down menu, at the sell console. Does anyone know if this has been fixed or is it still a known problem?

[pliant slate]

i was experiencing that as well

[chrome beacon]

A work around I found is that it seems to work fine in cities, loreville etc. If that helps you

[pliant slate]

i've taken to buying at outposts, selling at lorville

made around 100k so far this evening

[echo holly]

mining is fugged! ROC and prospector

[hollow sedge]

Whats the new and hot trading tool for SC?

[woeful moss]

https://sc-trade.tools/en-route

Still this

[hallow swallow]

I know about ROC issues. What's up with prospector mining?

[echo holly]

can't leave seat and crazy lighting artifacts

[hollow sedge]

glad to know we are still relying on SC trade tools.

[delicate girder]

So the CIG fix the poblem with so many dead roids when roid mining we had in 3.14?

[pale crane]

A workaround for the seat bug is to have a female character.
I haven't got any lighting bugs in the Prospector the last 2 days so this might be another thing causing that.

[regal pier]

We do have options, at least. There's also UEX: https://uexcorp.space/routes .

[vague eagle]

the bug where the quant goes straight to inert is pissing me off

[real yew]

how so? There aren't even any outposts or other markers appearing for me, except for a single one. And trying to jump to that resulted in and endless quantum jump

[thin escarp]

@delicate girder still ghosts

rocks

@vague eagle it should still be quant in refinery

its a visual bug

[vague eagle]

oh shit thankks

[blissful oxide]

Yeah, saw that after too
Some points are there, but some are missing (or they assigned mission on wrong place ?)

[raw shell]

dont' they sell mining modules in the refinery terminals any more?

damn you can't use modules in rental ships?

[bright star]

Nope

[raw shell]

hmm really starting to think starting in this game with just a titan just isn't going to work.

[pallid temple]

You'd be surprised

[raw shell]

from what I've seen since the wipe, yes I would. I've found no good ways to make credits. Surveillance missions are nerfed, ROC is still screwed up, rental prospector is near useless

I mean yeah I can haul in small near worthless loads of mineables but it will take weeks to get to a purchased prospector

holy crap you're right. how did I miss this video? "how to buy every ship in the game mining aluminum"

[hallow swallow]

whats this?

[raw shell]

bad joke. Anyone that's played this game knows that would be impossible.

[hollow sedge]

i think the illegal surveillance missions are the only things that have given me solid money so far, sure you have to deal with CS but at least you can make 100k witin a few minutes

[raw shell]

I tried that but I could only see like one every few hours. The one I did get, someone else killed the monitors

[hollow sedge]

that sucks

[raw shell]

3.14 I could do them one after another

[hollow sedge]

i assume some things are going to change when 3.15.1 is released

but you never know

[raw shell]

IF there is some secret way to get established in this game, short of burning a couple of hundred dollars for a ship that doesn't suck, I'd love to be surprised.

I can't break quant rocks in this rental.. every other mineable worth pursuing has been nerfed to 2% quantities it seems

[scenic sky]

I've been getting a lot of 890 rescue missions near ArcCorp today

That's like 45k + bonus fairly quickly

[raw shell]

that's a decent payday. Thanks Shrubbo, I'll check those out

[scenic sky]

The enemies generally spawn in the same locations too so once you've got that down it's easy

[blissful oxide]

You can do most of the bounty hunting with the Avenger, it's a pretty good ship.

The bunker/cavern missions are fun too, and pay somewhat ok
Same with search missions

To get bests missions you need to grind reputation a bit
Box delivery are now worth it aswell, unlocking 45k mission once you get tier 2

[serene quest]

holy shit, 45k delivery missions?

[hollow sedge]

wait actually?

thats really good

but probably really time consuming to work all of that rep up

[bright star]

Yes. It's true. And yes about the grind as well. It takes a while, but it's worth it. The mission itself takes shorter time to complete compared to the normal 8k aUEC missions.

Of course it comes with a risk at getting killed by the npcs.

[worthy scroll]

Nice to see some good box missions again. I may have to start doing that.

[hollow sedge]

thats still really good

[pallid temple]

Ohh

[hollow sedge]

looks like ill be getting an Avenger titan

[pallid temple]

So those are the missions

I'd only heard rumours of them

[serene quest]

do those tend to be FPS or Flight risks?

[worthy scroll]

If the enemies are anything like they were with old box missions, just outrun them.

[pliant matrix]

can you explain about npc? are there npc pirate waiting at delivery point or something?

[bright star]

FPS. It's a bunker mission basically.

[pallid temple]

NPC enemies at the pickup point

[hollow sedge]

oh thats not terrible

[worthy scroll]

Oh, well that sucks then. I have zero interest in FPS.

[bright star]

The pirates start spawning in waves after you find/pick up the first box.

[hollow sedge]

i would definitely do that instead of trying to mine with a broken ROC

[bright star]

There are security forces and civilians at the site.

[hollow sedge]

how many boxes are there usually?

[pliant matrix]

ugh same I don't like fps in this game... can't we have DHL/UPS missions like before? xD

[worthy scroll]

I like box missions to NOT have to deal with combat, because I don't want to do combat.

[bright star]

3. And there are no markers for them. You have to locate them. Which is not really hard if you know what you're looking for.

[hollow sedge]

dope

i gotta get into doing delivery

[worthy scroll]

Game performance is the main reason why I can't stand doing it. Can't fight back very well when you stutter and lag.

[serene quest]

thanks!

[hallow swallow]

That's a bit strange, Now i only see one in the contracts, but once that's done. Another will soon show up soon. My last bouting hunting session i mixed in these missions and managed to earn about 250k in one sitting.

[pliant matrix]

I don't know how fps stand now but last time I tried I got shot behind a wall after emptying my gun on an uncovered npc... I said to myself "try again at release"

[worthy scroll]

Ha yeah kind of the same.

[tropic sandal]

Is there a way to access a single seater ships inventory?

[hollow sedge]

just drop 400$ on a cargo ship. ez game

[tropic sandal]

Oh I forgot about that 👍

[sonic laurel]

how many NPC's though?

[blissful oxide]

Is there turret defending the site ?
Got one with 4 turrets, I needed to land 1500m away (and so to walk for 2x that)

[sonic laurel]

strafe around the turrets and open up on them with gunfire while you do it.

the turrets have garbage accuracy

[blissful oxide]

They got way too much health now
I takes more time to walk than killing them ^^
And well, I prepare for future, when servers won't be overloaded 😄

[unkempt spoke]

man hopefully they fix the trading issues this week

can't believe they destroyed the ability to trade scrap

[tame elbow]

That'd be good

[coarse cape]

Pretty sure people were buying scrap at orison and taking a smaller ship to po and sell scrap

[unkempt spoke]

I took my ship to every single port that purchases scrap and every single one was bugged

[hollow sedge]

that sucks

i want to get into cargo running, but i just dont have the means atm and the rescources

what should i be using to run quantanium

[blissful oxide]

Mining ship (prospector/mole)
Lancet head
Surge+Optimium+stampede
Cargo ship
lots of practice

[unkempt spoke]

speed

[hollow sedge]

gotcha

so it doesnt really matter what i use to run quant after its refined?

[unkempt spoke]

I'm still trying to find a good place to mine quantanium myself

[blissful oxide]

Well, the bigger the better
Used to be able to sell a full loaded M2 at Area 18 back in 3.14
Dunno about 3.15, but it should be the same/easier

[hollow sedge]

ok

thanks

[sonic laurel]

Lyria

[unkempt spoke]

is it the whole surface or just a specific region

[sonic laurel]

You want to look in the piedmont regions

[unkempt spoke]

so threat of ganking is...high lol

[sonic laurel]

there is one mining place that is stuck in the piedmont of two mountain areas with tons. Though others know about it so piracy could be more frequent

otherwise go to any piedmont region and look around

[unkempt spoke]

yeah I'd love to find my own claim so I guess we'll see

once trade is unborked

hopefully that happens this week since they broke it on friday with a hotfix

my cat is just sitting there unusable and full right now

[sonic laurel]

you bought scrap?

[unkempt spoke]

yep

100k just sitting in a hold until that fix that

and its not moving until they do since its on orison

[glad trench]

Is it me or are refining times from 3.13 dramatically increased

[sonic laurel]

you are correct

[glad trench]

Cringe

It's so long

[tough parcel]

Wait, you cant rent a Prospecter anymore???

[glad trench]

It's not good to rent a prospector because u can't put ur own head on it to be able to crack quantum rocks

[hollow sedge]

is a rented prospector still able to give a decent amount of aUEC just to get started?

to buy one that is

[tough parcel]

But I don't even see where you can rent one... like its not on Hurston or Orison or Microtech

[unkempt spoke]

Depends on the starting ship you have, you can expect to make roughly the same moving 8-10scu of Stims

which are purchased at jumptown and sold at the 'no questions asked' terminals at some of the mining stations

[hollow sedge]

i have a mustang alpha

which i could always rent a titan or something

and run cargo instead of renting

[vast summit]

Even without a specialized head, you could still make decent money on Aberdeen mining the 'ite minerals. May just have to focus on 3-4k size rocks.

[blissful oxide]

piedmont regions ?

[sonic laurel]

the 4-5km flat areas areound clusters of mountains in the game. IRL it's the expansive flats and foot-hills leading up to mountains.

[blissful oxide]

Ah yeah, thought in was a particular place ^^'

[north oyster]

The Prospector rental is more of a "trainer" than an "earner" and you will be hard pressed to earn back your investment (unfortunately). What you will want to do is find smaller boulders or asteroids and mine any valuable ore you can find. The idea is quantity over quality. And just sell the raw. The raw will only bring 50% of what you could have if you refined it. if you have the funds, time and a cargo ship then go ahead and refine it. You will have to stack a lot of jobs (no limit in the refinery).

[north oyster]

FYI, there is actually good coin to be earned in pizza deliveries. Someone was posting that after earning rep with the Box deliveries you start getting some high paying jobs. Some of them might have enemy NPCs that you have to take out. I don't have the details

[sonic laurel]

rank 2 delivery missions are 45k payout bunker missions where the goal is getting the package and delivering it. Hostiles are secondary concerns.

[north oyster]

that's just crazy, but I'm glad to see it.

[sonic laurel]

I think there isn't a package pip either. You have to examine the serial numbers or something on the boxes to make sure you have the right one.

[north oyster]

Makes sense

[polar flame]

you just have to find the blue boxes that arent strapped to the pallets

the early teir box missions need a payout bump for the time they take

[sonic laurel]

I haven't done one yet but I am planning on grinding them. Really tired of bounty missions honestly.

[polar flame]

the 3 to 1 and 1 to 3 missions may be relatively risk free ... but man they are time consuming

... not to mention, I have about a 15% bug rate where the box that I need to pick up spawns inside of the terrain and cant be grabbed

add that to the 'stairs of death' on Wala ... and box missions can become rage inducing REAL quick

[north oyster]

ProTip if you squat while going up and down stairs you will not die

Wala isn't the only moon that kills you, Arial slaughtered me also

[hexed harness]

Is Wala a good place to mine quantanium?

[north oyster]

no, not that I'm aware of

some claim Lyria is

I use the asteroid belt most all the time

[hexed harness]

Where abouts in the asteroid belt?

[sonic laurel]

Lyria is a fantastic place to mine quant

and is easier to get to than the halo

with less glitched rocks than the halo

[blissful oxide]

Yeah Lyria is very underated
I hope they won't nerf it too soon 😅

[sonic laurel]

in 3.14 I regularly found a cluster of rocks that could give my prospy 99% quant and have leftovers I would be forced to abandon.

[hexed harness]

Thank you!

Also ive been hearing a lot about the Halo, what is it

[sonic laurel]

asteroid belt that is unmarked. You access it by dropping out of QT at certain distances from CRU L1

Lyria - ARC L1 station is proably the easiest and best way to mine quant

so you'll base yourself out of ARC L1 station

[tame elbow]

HUR-L3 has been working out for me

[sonic laurel]

I tried HUR L3 a few times and got little

then again I wasn't flying around Lyria aimlessly. I knew where to go while in the belts I just meandered about looking for clusters.

[near knot]

Does bounty hunting or mining pay more?

I’m looking for something good. Because right now I’ve got 69k group bounties

[hexed harness]

Thank you very much, my friend :)

[sonic laurel]

it's hard to beat bounties

though trading might if you have a great ship like the C2

[worthy blade]

Looking to crew up and make serious dough before IEA

[subtle trail]

I'm currently at ARC-1 and I CANNOT find the stampede module to save my life

[lilac hedge]

Can't wait until this is a common occurance 💕

[delicate girder]

What is that? Is it the cargo hold of some ship and that's cargo or something?

How is ship mining in 3.15? I guess you still come across dead roids (ghosts - as @thin escarp said) but is it not broken enough to still be profitable?

[near knot]

What ship is that?

[tame elbow]

Ship mining is doing fine

[devout thistle]

Valk

[blissful geode]

how do you go about finding caves for hand mining on hurston?

[fluid sun]

take investigation missions, easiest way

[blissful geode]

Can you find them by just flying around the surface? or are there not that many caves?

I'll do that method, since it's a good idea, just curious 🙂

[fluid sun]

you can but it's hard to find them that way.. some sites have them documented and describe how to find them, but missions take you to caves so to start that's easiest

and i don't think all planets/moons have caves

[echo holly]

is trade working in 3.15?

[mild pumice]

Only just realised you can sell all this junk!

[echo holly]

where did you buy and sale all that? Any profit?

[mild pumice]

Sold to PO, not really much 2k for the lot, it was just garbage I looted at outposts

[crimson mantle]

It does work in 3.15, but there are other bugs making it challenging at times.

[blissful geode]

They don't have any other use besides selling yet, right?

[crimson mantle]

Only selling, yes

[blissful geode]

ty. Also thanks for the site, it's awesome 🙂

[crimson mantle]

Unless you count looking funny on your dashboard 😄

[latent pasture]

where yous selling your medical supplies

[fluid sun]

Is it worth getting a ROC and renting a cutty to solo mine the gems?

Not sure if I understand all the bugs and limitations right now. Could the cutty scan for diamond icons and then land to mine them with the ROC?

[sonic laurel]

Nomad probably is better but I'm not sure if you can rent it

[fluid sun]

I see it for sale for about 1 mil. Why is it better? I don't know the ship yet.

[sonic laurel]

cutty maneuverability is hurting right now

nomad is more nimble and easier to land

hover array means uneven terrain is ignored

[fluid sun]

I just rented a cutty and it was a bit of a pain, like it's not working right.

[sonic laurel]

it hasn't since 3.12

on the other hand my nomad does everything I used my cutty for

is cheaper

41 second claim time

etc

[fluid sun]

nice thanks

what's a hover array?

vtol?

[sonic laurel]

no landing legs

[fluid sun]

wth

[sonic laurel]

it hovers. but if the planet is windy turn off the engine while leaving power on

it won't blow around

[fluid sun]

do you load unload while hovering or either?

i assume there is a ramp in the back.. it looks open in the shop

[sonic laurel]

yeah

it loads and unloads while hovering

the hover is its landing gear

I went ahead and upgraded my game package to this ship and I am in love

[fluid sun]

oh so even with the engines off it will still hover?

[sonic laurel]

yeah

[fluid sun]

gotcha

huh

definitely checking it out

[sonic laurel]

3 small shields

3 S3 guns

8 S2 missiles

[fluid sun]

i have saved a bit over 400k.. what should i do? just keep at bounties with a rental or rent a prospector or something? thoughts?

[jovial saddle]

not sure what to trade rn lol

short on astadine and laranite

can't even buy titanium sometimes

[sonic laurel]

from pure money renting a connie and popping ERT's and group VHRTs is most profitable

[fluid sun]

thx, im up to group MRT's doing them solo, haven't seen the certification yet for HRT etc

[hollow sedge]

is the mole really that much better than the prospector?

[sonic laurel]

slower but better

and way better with a friend

[hollow sedge]

315$ 😢

i wanna get a cat before i get the mole

the mining and cargo intrests me the most in the game

if i was gonna spend 315 $ id get the c2 hercules before i get the mole. space trucking then mining in my eyes

but then again mining makes bank rn aparently

[thin shore]

47.72/ quantainium, mass 4931, how much for that location ? moving soon.

sobad

[delicate girder]

More bank than hauling for sure.

[hollow sedge]

might have to cop myself a miner

is it still good money after splitting the money with ur miner and pilot?

with the mole

[delicate girder]

I much prefer the Prospector. If I want to mine with a friend we just take two or three prospectors.

[hollow sedge]

u think so?

because its faster solo?

[hollow sedge]

it would be 80$ to upgrade my 325a to a prospector

or 245$ to get the mole LMAO

[blissful geode]

Is there an optimal loadout for prospector mining? Or does it change depending on what you're mining?

[devout comet]

so whats the best way to mine like where do i have to go to refine and best place?

[delicate girder]

Oh, I wasn't suggesting to buy a Prospector with real money. Sorry.

I think it would be some kind of sin to trade a 325a for half the ships in the game.

[hollow sedge]

I’ve also got a anvil arrow lmao @delicate girder

[delicate girder]

Trade that unless you're an ace pilot or want-a-be.

You buy an arrow when you're too good to get shot or think you are.

I'd rather have an M50 than an Arrow.

[hollow sedge]

Haha I feel that. I’m not big into the fighters and I like the luxury of the 325 so I’ll prolly trade in the arrow

[blissful geode]

Anyone have a problem with getting stuck in prospector pilot seat when exiting it? if so, is there any way to get out?

[sonic laurel]

be a female character or try using certain emotes to glitch out

[real yew]

I did cargo hauling in the Carrack all day yesterday evening

Reason: clone bed and no losing your cargo in case you die while tripping

only challenge was to land safely at Humbold mines, at night

[hollow crescent]

Aaron Halo is gone? i jumped to this exact spot like 30 min ago, came back after dropping my quant off and now theres nothing here? im 100% positive im in the same spot

[open viper]

Profit from trading seems pretty low

[pale crane]

/Dance2 Can help wiggle out

[pale crane]

Jump again and go a few hundred/thousand km forward then drop quantum. Repeat until you see the asteroids. If after a few you still don't see it go away then turn around after one min or two and try again to drop in the halo.

I had it happen to me too, twice. Was at the good distance, even checked the map I was good, but nothing. Doing this resolved the issue.

[pliant matrix]

You can also make the rain dance naked in your room with chicken legs around your neck (nuggets also works sometimes).
Legend says it makes Star citizen bugs vanish

[gentle roost]

Or it starts raining in your room and your computer is ruined

[pliant matrix]

Same ending. No more bugs 🤣

[hollow spindle]

I tried to sell medical supplies at a price alert location, managed to grab 5k units before going there. Then, they only actually wanted to buy 1k units, so I had to find a way to get rid of my 4k surplus without losing money. Is there any way to see, how much a place actually wants to buy before going there?

[hollow crescent]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

not perfect but close enough

[strange raven]

What to do?

[raw shell]

The rental prospector is useless. Don't waste your time and money, like I did

[crimson mantle]

I do my best 😅

[hollow spindle]

Thank you! So if I put in, that I want to sell 4000 units, it will automatically filter out every station, that only buys less but there is no direct way to see, how much stuff a station would buy right now. Is that correct?

[velvet fractal]

can you refine buggy minerals? this being the ones you crack with the ROC

[crimson mantle]

No, you can only sell them as-is 🙂

[velvet fractal]

Alright, thanks a bunch

[worldly vector]

Anyone have an issue with the roc engine not starting/able to move? I've had it parked in/on my ship for a few days between mining runs and after mining I pulled into the ship went to next location and it would not move. No engine sound. Tried everything I could think of but no luck.

[unkempt spoke]

Did they fix trading yet?

[crimson mantle]

Yes, they fixed the inventory bugs.
That being said, there are some other bugs this patch that make it challenging in other aspects.

[sharp latch]

Elaborate, please? I havnt started trading but bought a decent ship to start a career out of it.

[hexed harness]

Female player models do not get stuck

[hollow sedge]

is that getting fixed in 3.15.1? cause if so i might get a prospector now

[hexed harness]

Not sure, probably though. I'd get one anyways, just play a female character for now. My friend gets stuck constantly, and I havent gotten stuck once. I switched to a male character to test, and got stuck without fail, every single time I tried to get out of the seat. I think it's because of the smaller model size female characters have that lets them avoid the glitch. Just a guess tho

[hollow sedge]

hmm

thats interesting

and yeah ill get a prospector anyways i just gotta get more money atm

[rain mauve]

Do u lower shields then pop missiles?

[blissful oxide]

Sad day
Found this beauty, but I have exhausted my modules

[glad trench]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/851390032634839040/910135283675189248/unknown.png

I found this beauty

Just an hour ago

49.96 percent quant

5122 mass

6 percent inert

[hollow sedge]

ok

after a few days, whats the very best place to look for quant?

[blissful oxide]

50% is great, but I like the 8200 mass more 😄

[blissful oxide]

Lyria > all

[hollow sedge]

ight serious question. do i wanna buy the catarpillar or the mole

[hollow sedge]

probably mole, the caterpillar is good transport but i think mole is slightly better for quant mining

you can also do more with others in a mole

[glad trench]

Really? I've been finding the planet rocks tend to be less mass then space ones

I also tend to find quant faster in space for some weird reason like Hur l3 and cru l3

And arc l3

[blissful oxide]

This one come from Lyria
8200 mass

also, what makes Lyria better is that
all chunks of rocks are QT rocks

[glad trench]

I've seen a 7k rock before but never 8200

Chunks as in more than one?

In one spot

[blissful oxide]

yup

[glad trench]

Yeah that is nice

Though earlier this morning I searched it for an hour and found jack

[blissful oxide]

here for example, that's only QT rocks

Don't stop for single rocks, you will just loose time

[glad trench]

Imagine a 60 percent 9000 mass tock

I wonder what it takes to fill the mole

[blissful oxide]

max is 50% I think

[hollow sedge]

absolute steal

[blissful oxide]

Never seen a rock bigger than 9k

[blissful oxide]

wait for IAE, there might be some great warbound

[hollow sedge]

yeah i gotta hold out anyways. gotta wait for my nft to sell

[unkempt spoke]

This is why we carry QT beacons

[glad trench]

A 9k rock At 50 percent is about 1.6 mill refined damn

[blissful oxide]

QT beacons ?

[hollow sedge]

nov. 25'th is the argo day right?

so i gotta make sure it sells by then

[unkempt spoke]

https://starcitizen.tools/Service_beacon

[unkempt spoke]

you could do this as a workaround

just make it stupid expensive

[hollow sedge]

yeah that font is tiny as fuck

"current balance 2637" poor guy

[unkempt spoke]

I have 2k myself until the scrap bug is fixed

and I'm too salty about it to make cash another way

[hollow sedge]

hahahah feel tha

[blissful oxide]

You can quantum to your own beacon ?

[hollow sedge]

im not sure if i wanna get into mining or just space trucking

they are both equally fun to me

[blissful oxide]

space trucking is meh atm imo
like
QT to A then do nothing for $x time, buy
QT to B then do nothing for $x time, sell

I don't see fun here x)
Plus it's super unbalanced. Using a bigger ship is better in 100% of the case,
I'm really looking for cargo refactor, so everything get more balanced, especially with the load/unload aspect

[hollow sedge]

yeah sum tells em in upcomign updates the value of trucking will go up but so will the time

like theres gonna be a delay to load/unload

to "simulate" someone actually puttint hat cargo in your ship

[blissful oxide]

more like we will manually have to do it for the t0
And the "pay to get it dones" will come later on

[hollow sedge]

sheeesh

that would blow

[lilac hedge]

The way i see it, cargo will be retrievable and depositable in 2 forms: containers, and SCUs

Some stations like rest stops will be able to bring up commodities out of the locations inventory in 32 SCU sized crates, maybe even several at once, while outposts and such will only be able to bring up various quantities of SCU crates

The argo SRV is to a hull series as a hand-tractor beam is to a freelancer.

[unkempt spoke]

Not sure honestly I've just heard people use beacons in the past, I'm still a bad advice bunny

[unkempt spoke]

I enjoy it but I mix it in with a lot of other tasks, its not the only thing I'm doing when I'm trucking but I don't waste a trip, either

[lost canyon]

is hauling good after full wipe ? did it fix anything or still rly bad

[north surge]

You guys think 10scu is enough for a daily driver? I really want to use the Vulcan for my DD but I'm worried about the cargo size. I know a lot of that will be used for ammo and repair stuff

[coarse cape]

Yeah cargo good

[sonic laurel]

nomad has 24 SCU

and a bit of everything else

[blissful oxide]

currently no
But in the future maybe ?
till we get cargo refactor we can't really know

[lost canyon]

like its money making?

[midnight egret]

The main chat tends to be a bit wild so I'm going to post this question here since it is pertaining to cargo of a sort. My thoughts right now are to generally use an Ion to hunt down large targets and then a vulture to scrap and sell the expensive bits for a nice bit of change. Problem is how will I return to the site of the wreck? Will SC allow me to create custom waypoints at some point? Has this been discussed at all?

[blissful geode]

What are good things/places to mine with a Prospector if you don't want to do Quant mining yet?

[coarse cape]

Ye @lost canyon

[worthy blade]

Does anyone not crew up anymore ?

[hollow sedge]

not sure. from what ive seen not really

[north surge]

yeah but it's so ugly 😭

i really like the look of the argos

[sonic laurel]

We gonna fight

[north surge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-bush-hide-bye-gif-16150806

what's the chances they ever do a salvage variant of the mole?

instead of 3 variants that do the same damn thing

[hallow fractal]

When doing bounty missions they always go to a small asteroid cluster are there any good rocks in these areas? Just wondering if it is viable to have a friend bring a mole after I clear the area

[pallid temple]

Not particularly

[raw shell]

so if gems spawns are simply not happening, is it possible to server-hop and have better luck?

or are spawns the same everywhere?

just spent the past hour flying around daymar and not a single gem icon

[jovial saddle]

will the cargo refresh if I wait next to the kiosk on the planet?

not sure if it's worth doing

[muted vault]

should i get the ROC or the ROC-DS???

better yet will an ROC-DS still fit on a cutlass black?

[autumn vale]

Is it possible to pull data from SC to create a trade balance sheet?

@jovial saddle https://sc-trade.tools/home has the refresh rate of commodities

[jovial saddle]

I tried waiting next to the terminals but I don't think it's refreshing at all

[autumn vale]

@jovial saddle You are wasting time. It takes a long time for stuff to regenerate. Set up a trade route with alternative stops if a item is out

two other tools to plan trading https://uexcorp.space/ and https://www.gallog.co/

[frail roost]

For future reference, you can target the nearest ground station on the map, grab the distance and compass heading to it, and invert the heading (add/subtract 180 to stay within 0-360) to find it again without needing to drop a box or whatever. As long as you stay on the server.

[thin escarp]

@midnight egret maybe when that gets implemented but its far out

[real yew]

I was wondering... for the Mole Carbon and Talus the specs say they are seven meters less tall than the normal one. What gives?

[hollow sedge]

Can u even obtain those?

[hallow fractal]

What type of laser and modules setup seems to be the standard on the mole with a min of two laser operators? Helix with stampede and brandit?

[tough parcel]

Is it possible to sell widow anywhere else besids grimhex?

[real yew]

I guess you could on starhangar

[tough parcel]

how often does demand for cargo refresh?

[glad trench]

i forget is there a way to check what refineries u have ore refining at from an app or somewhere (without going to each and checking)

[pale crane]

To keep track of my work orders I use this website https://uexcorp.space/refining
You put in how much units of what you have to refine, you choose the refinery and the refining process, then add to list, and you will have a list below with all your work orders, their location and remaining time.

[brittle cove]

Aaaa soon we will be able to touch hull C

Space bus go beep beep

[worldly vector]

@raw shell gem spawns are not the issue. It's scanning at the moment that is broken and only registering gems within 1,000m. Normally it was about 2,300. I thought the same thing but someone posted all the info in a post the other day. Until they fix it will just take longer to find the spawns.

@muted vault roc - solo, roc ds - team unless you don't mind switching seats to mine and drive. Unsure about fitting in the cutlass