#industrial-professions

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tame elbow
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So they're easier to pick up

marble crater
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that sounds great, stops me having to climb up into dodgy spots

marble crater
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thank you again for this tip, filled, up quit to menu and sold my Hadanite with no problems

tame elbow
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🙏 Excellent

strange raven
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Do you lose minerals in ROC after 30k?

tame elbow
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Yep

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Your vehicle gets put into an unknown state

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And cannot be found anywhere

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Only choice is to claim

tacit delta
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You can see the storage

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But you can't sell from it

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The only way is to claim, which destroys the storsge

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That's why I don't do mining for now

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It seems that they got the storage saved alright, they just disabled doing anything with it

obsidian stone
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Do we have time for a little speculation? Seeing that we only have one single-seat mining vessel from a single manufacturer, MISC, how possibly can you envision another competitive single-seat miner from another manufacturer without being the "same" as a Prospector?

teal wing
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I'd love to see an Argo single-seat miner with a bit more endurance than the Prospector, like a Titan with a mining laser

obsidian stone
teal wing
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Storage, bed, basic living facilities, that kind of thing. Not sure how useful that would be unless you increase the cargo capacity, but I feel like the Prospector is going to involve a lot of QT travel from the mining belt to refinery stations.

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I imagine there will also be a mining ship with hardening against hazards, which I imagine will be relevant for mining in places like Pyro.

obsidian stone
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I see. So, maybe an extended range expeditionary type mining vessel. I would think there would be a drawback to that vessel versus the Prospector and i can't imagine reducing its cargo capacity.

tame elbow
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Or go even smaller and something the size of a pisces with like 4SCU but can only do gem deposits

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Pretty much like a flying ROC

teal wing
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A mining vessel with Drake safety standards and design philosophy Sweats

obsidian stone
tame elbow
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Maybe. I was just thinking that we could slot something between ROC and Prosp

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Maybe we could go a bit larger and have a 2-person ship miner with 62 SCU

obsidian stone
tame elbow
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Bridge the gap between mole and Prosp as well

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I don't think Origin is getting into the mining biz any time soon

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Lol

obsidian stone
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I see ARGO as the main MISC competitor.

tame elbow
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Argo doesn't have much right now

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They could use some love from the devs

tacit delta
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I don't get why Reclaimer is Aegis

obsidian stone
tame elbow
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They have the MPUVs which tbh they claim they only added because people asked for it(who tf asked them for those?) And the Mole

tacit delta
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I really don't think anyone would want an MPUV

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It seems weird

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For cargo we have plenty of starter options

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Aurora CL for example

tame elbow
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They said they showed them off in some SQ42 media and people asked them if they can pledge for one. They said "okay, why not"

obsidian stone
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I also did see some mention of the Anvil Terrapin being modular with a Mining Laser module.

tacit delta
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Fair enough

tame elbow
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That would be really cool

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Terrapin miner

tacit delta
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I say Reclaimer should've been Argo, and greycat should get some love too

tame elbow
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Not sure where it would put the cargo though

tacit delta
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Maybe they can do the flying roc

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I mean they already have roc

obsidian stone
tacit delta
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Of course, but a ROC is 172k and prospector is 2 mil

tame elbow
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Sort of

tacit delta
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You can have flying roc at around 600~800k methinks

tame elbow
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The ROC can go into caves that ships can't

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Your ship loses a lot of potential when you add a ceiling kot

tacit delta
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Not that the caves are attractive to begin with

tame elbow
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Hand Mining ➡️ ROC mining ➡️ ? ➡️ prospector mining ➡️ mole mining ➡️ Orion mining HQ

tacit delta
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Is mole a hassle to use solo

tame elbow
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Switching seats is a bit annoying

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The pilot has no access to lasers

tacit delta
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Yea but the central laser is close

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About 10 seconds walk I think?

tame elbow
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Yeah, pretty much

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Instead of press M you just walk down to the laser

tacit delta
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It's just that I'd mine with a friend

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Otherwise I'd just use prospector

tame elbow
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Mole mining is a lot of fun when you have crew

tacit delta
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But the bastard is pretty random

tame elbow
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It's one of the only multicrew things that feels good

tacit delta
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Also looks good

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It looks industrial

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Hard shapes

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Unlike prospector

tame elbow
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Prospector looks cheap and dirty

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You could tell me it's a drake ship and I'd believe you

tacit delta
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Great pilot view tho

tame elbow
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True

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Freelancer could learn from it

tacit delta
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Also great HUD

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The HUD is zoomed in

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It's so crystal clear

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I fucking love it

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I don't get why that's not the default

tame elbow
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Still curious what this ship is

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It was a funding milestone

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But literally never gave any information about it since

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It's an Aegis Salvage ship

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Maybe it's supposed to be the Reclaimer?

obsidian stone
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Good question. Maybe even a smaller class of salvage ship.

manic whale
obsidian stone
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Anymore context for that? I thought it was a drone ship the first time I saw it, IIRC, but it looks to have a cockpit.

manic whale
obsidian stone
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Where from would you deploy these things?

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I can't see an Orion fitting these onboard.

manic whale
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I like it being something completely different, not just "take a Terrapin and stick a mining arm to it"

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I think It would be surface deployable only

muted phoenix
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Anyone figure out with the new scanner what the percentages mean. I'm talking about when you use the V command or are they just worthless.

hollow hollow
tacit delta
hollow sedge
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is a prospector with a helix and surge just not enough for a 30% quant rock

obsidian stone
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depends on the mass of the rock

hollow sedge
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Ahh i see

ashen epoch
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shoot seeing those mining "drones" float in or fall in air drop in would be scary as crap add in weapons XD

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crawl over to a player base suddenly the driller saws coreing out the building xD

hollow sedge
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where do i sell refined ores?

obsidian stone
hollow sedge
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oh damn

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also does storing get rid of my cargo

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just wanna make sure

obsidian stone
hollow sedge
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aight sick just wanted to make sure

north oyster
tacit delta
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Are you limited to selling minerals in big cities?

terse creek
tacit delta
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Where can you sell them then

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Can you sell them in space stations

terse creek
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space station for some, but most big city selling center buy anything legal

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A question that may be stupid : How do you end up with a full Quatanium cargo ? For example, i pick some bexalit and quatanium, go refine it and then ? i'll have like 10 SCU refined, that not a full cargo for a Cutlass for example ... Any tips from my fellow Captain's ?

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Do i have to keep loading the cutlass with the wanting rafined ore ?

haughty anvil
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your refined order has to fit

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and as i found out carting around a large qty of QT you may not be able to sell it all

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in one spot at least

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Lorville would only let me sell so much then I had to go to Area 18 to sell the rest (at a lower price)

foggy iron
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If you are only getting 10 Quant then you may be choosing rocks with too low a percentage. I ignore any group of asteroids unless at least one of them has over 25% quant. That usually ends up yielding at least 15-20scu of quant.
I have never had a TDD refuse to buy all my quant (I usually sell about 30-40 at a time) as long as I wait a few minutes. Once I had to sell in three batches but the total wait was no longer than 15 minutes.

foggy stone
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Yeah. You can keep adding refined ore to the ship. I do that to my Carrack. Will put a few dozen orders in there

terse creek
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Nice, thanks

crimson mantle
crimson mantle
ruby moth
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More 30k risk for your stressful enjoyment!

tame elbow
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Step 1: change server region
Step 2: join server
Step 3: press F11 to see the player count
Step 4: if above 35, exit to menu and go to step 1, otherwise enjoy your fresh server for several hours

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No 30k

modest helm
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Will CIG announce when they will go live with the next patch? From my understanding if you have work orders in progress you will lose them when the game is patched.

tame elbow
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CIG doesn't announce patches usually until the day of.

I've never also never lost my refinery jobs between patches so far

modest helm
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ok cool thanks I guess I can go back to mining then

hexed cedar
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After a 30K is it possible to retrieve cargo from your ROC to sell? It’s still showing as being in the cargohold when I go to a selling terminal.

waxen belfry
blissful oxide
hollow sedge
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should i run the helix or the lancet for my prospector

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ive been running helix with surge optimum and brandt

tame elbow
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My person preference is lancet

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The resistance and instability modifiers are great for valuable rocks

north oyster
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I'm pretty confident that all refinery jobs will be wiped and reset from 3.13 to 3.14 patch upgrade

hexed cedar
foggy stone
# hexed cedar Any help?

Not to my knowledge. I’ve had my cutty tweak out with the ROC in it and somehow managed not to lose the gems in the ROC but that was a fluke within a fluke. Assume you lost everything on a 30K when you have to claim the ship.

hexed cedar
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My cargo is still showing on both my ROCs as still being on them. I can just spawn them (without claiming) but I'm afraid to do so in case the cvargo gets emptied.

hollow sedge
tame elbow
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1 Vaux and 2xFLTR

tacit delta
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My friend has 4 15 SCU jobs on refinery

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If it gets wiped he'll be ultra pissed

smoky cloud
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sheeshhh

hollow sedge
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do selling rates change depending on where you sell or is it only yield rates that change like that

sharp violet
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microtech is the place to sell quantinium right?

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nvm 😦 game glitched and took it all away 😦

thin escarp
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@sharp violet once refined. i always take it to area 18

sharp violet
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ok

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Chris snatched all my quantinium out of the back of my cutty

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so no money for me 😂

gritty solar
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LF laser operator for my mole. pay is 35% from everything we make

north oyster
sharp violet
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ahhh ok

stuck robin
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Hi peeps I'm a newbie, started yesterday and I'm getting whooped on my first mercenary mission. Anyone got any advice about destroying sentinel drones in a mining area?

thin escarp
stuck robin
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the beginners aurora

stuck robin
thin escarp
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if your on tonight i'll help ya get some cash towards a new ship

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i'm running a huge mining op tonight you'll def get the ropes and a fat paycheck.

teal wing
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"Fat Paycheck" is definitely gonna be the name of my mining hauler

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There's no way that will backfire

thin escarp
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LOL

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i'll have to number my cats. I've been doing 3 cats at the same time. 15 mil in quant i am too juicy of a target.

stuck robin
# thin escarp

haha, yup abouty right. I just got arrested now too lol

stuck robin
slim atlas
narrow quarry
north oyster
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It's in the drop down menu before you join the verse. It'll say Best or USA, or whatever region you're connecting to

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At the bottom left

cosmic otter
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hey yall me and my friend finally saved up for a mole ingame and like im wondering what the best spot for quantanium mining is

tame marsh
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Whats the best form of mining?

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Prospector or ROC?

thin escarp
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i prefer ship mining

haughty anvil
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passive modules expire?

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ah I see they don't survive ship claims

reef narwhal
manic whale
# haughty anvil passive modules expire?

I was able to reequip them to my another Prospector earlier, saving them this way, but not anymore lately. I hope its a bug , so it will be patched in future. Its a physical item after all, mounted on the mining head.

haughty anvil
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well won't be buying anymore of the 40k modules

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also hope they fix the prospector ladder of death

blissful oxide
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The passive modules getting removed after reclaim is intended, not a bug

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They told it during live or ISC

manic whale
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I take that as a "intended for now"

blissful oxide
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I wonder in the future when iCache is fully implemented, if every components will works that way
Could be very interesting

teal wing
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I imagine you'd have the option to insure them, much like insuring good equipment on a combat ship

manic whale
blissful oxide
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not a fan of insurance for stuff, but yeah

manic whale
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The cons of passive sub-comps are their high price and weaker effect on resistance, instability... in contrast to active ones. So the positive could be their service life. You can shoot like 130-150 charges of 1pc active sub-comp for the same price of 1pc of tier3 passive.

north oyster
manic whale
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I´m OK buying them again from time to time. 30Ks are not so common these days for me. The worst are the Sundays and I play mostly Mo-Fr

blissful oxide
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got no 30k since 3.13 personally

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where before I got them almost daily

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Well, got one, but that was client error, not server

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so just had to reconnect

sharp violet
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you sell at Shubin Interstellar when at Microtech right?

tame elbow
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TDD

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Not shubin

fierce ore
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Looking to rent a prospector today - where the most profitable place to mine and what resource?

blissful oxide
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Try any planet to start, and see how it works
Watch some video aswell
Don't try the most profitable at start, you will fail
It will be like starting the game by his last boss

tacit delta
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rental prospector is only good for low end mining

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attempting to do more than that will result in failure

terse creek
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i'm actually saving for a combat ship or a prospector, trying to decide . Is the mining head that worth ? because if not rental prospector seems enough :/ light it for me please

oak lake
terse creek
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i already play full bounty with my Cutlass, but i'll check for a Vanguard Warden or the Prospector . What i don't know is if having a prospector on my own is really better than a renting you know

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Because 2M is a lot of money for a mining solo ship ^^

blissful oxide
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It's way better to own it, so you can upgrade it 🙂

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Basic mining head are really bad

oak lake
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Yeah rental prospector sucks

thin escarp
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@terse creek i can show ya the ropes of mining. before you buy a ship

tame elbow
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Rental prospector cannot change it's mining head which means it can cannot gather the most valuable rocks

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Try to go for Hephaestanite or Titanium and you'll be basically be lucky to break even on your rental cost until you get skilled with mining and figure out where to go to find rocks which are actually doable

tacit delta
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I never did recoup my rental cost

thin escarp
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i can show anyone the ropes on mining today just hmu

north oyster
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WARNING 3.14 going LIVE this week. Clear your refinery jobs or loose them

north oyster
blissful oxide
north oyster
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Please ignore my warning. 🙂
post We’re aiming to release 3.14 to the Live servers this week, so warm those engines and keep an eye on Spectrum for when the new update drops.

blissful oxide
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Oh nice !

north oyster
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I hope everyone who has refinery jobs understand this is coming and keep jobs cleared up. Pay a little extra for the fast good quantity method.

obsidian stone
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Hmm. My fully loaded C2 survived the most recent 30k on PTU.

north oyster
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I'd take that for everything it is worth and understand you dodged the bullet, LOL

obsidian stone
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Porbably. The bad news is i suffered 2 30k's in 30 min.

north oyster
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I lost two trade loads because of patches getting pushed, but I was glad to see all the updates coming almost everyday

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Just DO NOT spawn in Orison, trust me on that one

obsidian stone
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Well, i can't sell my load at the Orison TDD. Going to try the Admin Office.

north oyster
obsidian stone
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Its an issue noted on the latest patch. TRhats whyI'm testing it.

north oyster
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ah!! OK, I've not read the latest patch notes... thanks for the info

obsidian stone
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Nope. Can't sell at the Admin Office either.

obsidian stone
north oyster
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Ok, so it's still basically "tier 0" deployment. I'm thinking the trade infrastructure is still "pending"

obsidian stone
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yep

dusky kernel
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has hauling been fixed yet or?

obsidian stone
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No

obsidian stone
dusky kernel
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when is that coming?

obsidian stone
dusky kernel
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so November

oak lake
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Doesn't necessarily mean November

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Q4 or Q1 maybe pending delays

tame elbow
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Depends on what you mean by fixed

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This patch just came out today

slim atlas
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I saw that, I'm wondering if that means still broken, slightly less broken, or working

obsidian stone
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You can read that as "restored trading to the state it was in before 3.14 broke it during the PTU".

slim atlas
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so "good luck everyone, you can load up but nowhere to sell it or all the demand but no supply." boo D:

marble crater
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so looking to attempt ROC mining for the first time soon (renting a Cutlass & ROC). Is there a ballpark figure per hour that can be made? not sure how long I should set aside to do it

modest helm
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Finding Hadanite may be the most time consuming task. Also beware of other players harassing you. I was griefed twice. Loading and unloading takes up time as well. I eventually bought a ROC but my luck/skill sucked at finding mineables. I ended up bounty farming for a Prospector. Right move on my part. I don't think you can put a credit per hour price when it comes to such things. Even the YT vids are misleading. You could go a whole hour without finding much to mine.

marble crater
terse creek
marble crater
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oh I just read above that 3.14 is out this weekend? I might just wait a bit on trying the mining then then haha

north oyster
# tame elbow This patch just came out today

Jack Axton was testing trade after the latest patch dropped, it's still totally messed up. Apparently the apprentice that CIG has assigned to it has been busy with other stuff

chrome mural
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Just got a mole so hyped :D

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3 weeks to get to it

north oyster
# chrome mural Just got a mole so hyped :D

Congratulations. Don't stack any long refinery jobs, especially towards the end of the week. The new patch may drop and it'll wipe all the refinery jobs completed and in process

chrome mural
north oyster
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I'd recommend the MAX because it can pull ROC duty. CAT is the next best

chrome mural
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Yea altho if the hercules isnt to expensive ill try to get that instead it has insane hull hp and desent weapons

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Plus it has the most cargo capacity

teal wing
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Not sure when the Herc will be available to buy with aUEC if that's what you mean. Also you'd be taking a lot of risk with 30Ks/sudden inexplicable death if you use the Herc's full cargo capacity to move mined stuff :P

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It's a really cool ship, but I think the Taurus is going to hit the sweet spot for moving refined minerals around for me

chrome mural
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Yea wasnt planing to fill up the cargo, more like 1mil worth of cargo a run

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Yea if hercules doesnt come out next patch ill get my self the andromeda

manic whale
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Hercs should be available in 3.14, they have their prices already listed.

north oyster
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Yeah, Hercules, both available when 3.14 drops

chrome mural
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Herc price is listed?

manic whale
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5mil & 5,2mil

chrome mural
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5.2 is for m2 im guessing

ruby jolt
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Hi! Can somebody explain mining rocks to me?
I found out that there are "soft" spots on rocks where it allows you to charge faster and sometimes i just can't mine light rock because can't find these spots.
Am i right? Is there such a minigame "to find the right spot on rock to mine it"?

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Like soft spots don't release sparks and this is the only way to define them.

manic whale
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Yes, that´s my experience too. I use it all the time, cause my mining head is just enough for what I´m mining. The charge level of the progress bar stops on certain level and I need to move the beam slightly around to find this "softer" spot to be able to continue the charge. So I follow the progress bar, not the sparks.

tired peak
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Hello, I have a quick question. Does the ROC mining rover fit in an Avenger Titan?

crimson mantle
tired peak
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Thank you. I will look into it soon👍

hollow sedge
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What ship is best for QT sensitive/regular deliveries?

rotund cave
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Smell ship like avenger or nomad or even aurora

hollow sedge
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Need a little more room that what the Aurora has, for me personally

rotund cave
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So reliant, nomad, avenger, 100i something like this then

coarse cape
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300 series is also pretty good

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cant wait for trading to come back

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really want to use my cat loaner

rotund cave
hollow sedge
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ill look into it thanks

north oyster
hollow sedge
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nimbal, fast, a bit bigger than a car and plenty of room for boxes and boxes only

north oyster
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Pisces is a fun ship.

hollow sedge
torpid mesa
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I think youll need to upfgrade the qt drive to do what your looking for its not meant to be doing long runs the way it comes stock @hollow sedge

tacit delta
manic whale
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everything is good

tacit delta
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Aopoa Nox is not good

coarse cape
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pisces is fedex shipping truck

tacit delta
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Then I'll get it

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Wait

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what about MPUV Cargo

manic whale
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Take that too

coarse cape
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yeah it doesnt

north oyster
# tacit delta What about 100i? Are they good?

if it's Origin, then it's got to be good. I bought (RL cash) as 325a and absolutely love it. The 100 series is just as fun. They make excellent runabouts and with the new balances going in, it's like every ship isn't a complete pushover any longer.

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I bought a couple of 100 series ingame (fighter and cargo variants) and was using them all the time for daily drivers.

tacit delta
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My only complaint with my 325a is I bought it way too late

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By the time I bought it I've got Talon, so I don't use my 325a much

slim atlas
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yeah the mpuv is a ship to station or ship to ship kinda hauler

shell edge
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“It doesn’t have quantum drive! It doesn’t have a laser cannon! Why the [redacted] would I want my own ARGO? Because I work for a living, that’s why, and no interstellar commerce has ever moved from point A to point B without touching an ARGO’s hull plating somewhere along the way.”

  • Captain Danica Carraway, Licensed Hull-C #3-A48-MMT6 (“Fred’s Pride”)
coarse cape
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i bought a 315 a few weeks before ilw and i loved it cuz it was a nice daily driver

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then i bought a corsair and railen and melted my 315 cuz i wasnt using it much

sage mesa
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can anyone teach me fps minign

hollow sedge
north oyster
# sage mesa can anyone teach me fps minign

More is caught than taught as it relates to mining. Watch a few videos to learn the basics but once you understand the controls, go find some rocks. You can find them on the surface of moons and planets (and caves). They only show up with ping when you are about 400 meters from them. Go slow and low if in a ship hunting them

slim atlas
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on foot mining the best way to learn is go shoot like 10 npcs to death, goto jail and mine away lol

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by the time you get out you will have it mastered lol

ashen epoch
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issue with pices ship least the one with red windshield is well the red windows XD

rich hatch
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Trading seems much more difficult

obsidian stone
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It is

rich hatch
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😦

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any luck of thatbeing worked on in 3.14

crimson mantle
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I'll know as soon as I datamine the LIVE release.
That being said, the early PTU patches showed minimal changes.

teal wing
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Is surge or brandt better for datamining? thinkpir

obsidian stone
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no

crimson mantle
slim atlas
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I think a lot of our trade issues will be resolved once there is more than one system

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As imo the current rates are for a single system with an entire verse's worth of users packed in

torpid mesa
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4444444444440.

rich hatch
misty totem
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is the MSR the best option to have as a daily driver and cargo for refinery ore?

I have a prospector and my starter avenger titan doesn't have enough SCU to transport. I wasn't sure if the MSR would be a good replacement for the titan and I would get more out of it? Also not sure if the 400i is soon or if there is a better option? I know the cutlass black is a thing, but I really don't enjoy the looks which may be silly and something I need to get over

crimson mantle
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The looks of your JPEGs is definitely important 🙂
We don't know about the 400i: it's been "near ready" for quite some time now.

blissful oxide
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MSR is sure an awesome ship, dunno if it's the best option, dunno either if there really is a best option 😅
Freelancer Max is great also, but MSR is sexier imo

misty totem
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I guess the Taurus may be another option in that price range too?

blissful oxide
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yup

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Taurus is great for bounty aswell as far as I heard

misty totem
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I'm just getting into the game and also just bought my first twin stick setup to learn to fly better. Would the MSR give a good flight experience?

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or would I be better off CCUing the titan for a dedicated fighter then having the MSR for non combat

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sorry, maybe a more relevant question is with ship refining on the horizion would I be better off getting a starfarer instead of the MSR

blissful oxide
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MSR doesn't suit for combat at all, it's not made for that
But for everything else, it's pretty great

About refuel, it should come once Pyro is there, but no ETA yet, could be next year or the one after ?
starfarer really isn't great for daily driver though 😅 But awesome for cargo (and potentially refueling and gas hunting once ready)

daring vale
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Really wish trading was fixed...

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There was an interesting sort of fun spending time in the ship's mess hall while reading Dune.

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Now there's not enough cargo to ship even on a good day :c

blissful oxide
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You could try mining while waiting for cargo refactor, it's quite calm aswell 😄

rich hatch
rich hatch
daring vale
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I'm considering mining, now that I've got the coordinates for the secret ring.

pine beacon
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anyone up for some quantanium mining?

misty totem
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secret ring?

daring vale
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Aaron's Ring.

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It's an asteroid belt around the sun.

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So massive and rich with resources, you'll be alone the entire time you're there.

modest helm
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Why is it a secret?

daring vale
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Because when you're there, your location is a secret.

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The odds of being found even if being followed, is next to nil.

coarse cape
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eh its pretty easy to find someone

shell edge
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how would you go about finding someone in the Aaron Halo? Curious.

tacit delta
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Ok but do pirate NPCs spawn in that ring?

daring vale
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Locin, it's next to impossible to find someone in the Aaron Halo.

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Unless the person you're looking for has parked right where they dropped out and told you their route, the chances of finding someone who doesn't want to be found, might as well not exist at all.

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You have to know what planet they left from, you have to know what route they've taken, you have to know exactly when THEY dropped out of QT, you have to know which direction they went, and you have to know how far they went...

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God help you if you cut the engines even half a second too late.

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That half a second difference is a guarantee you'll never find someone even if you're TRYING to find them in the Halo.

daring vale
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If anything, your biggest enemies there are accidents and boredom.

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Accidentally clip your thrusters on a bad deceleration, and nobody's going to know where you are.

tacit delta
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Party members can see each other, right>?

coarse cape
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depends if miners are tehre tho

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ive found 6 miners out of the 2 times ive searched

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took abt an hour or so

modest helm
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My bad I thought you meant the Halo was a secret.

daring vale
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The biggest sensor signature in the world means diddly if you're flying the wrong way.

shell edge
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so finding A miner might be possible, but to find a particular miner might be looking for a needle in a haystack?

daring vale
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Finding a miner in general would be like finding a piece of hay in a needle stack.

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Again, you need to guess the correct direction on the first try.

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So, space being three dimensional and all that jazz, that means that assuming you cut your engines no more than 1/10th of a second from where the miner exited...

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...you have a one out of fourteen chance of picking the right direction and, assuming the miner hasn't adjusted their course or continued their course, finding said miner.

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If the miner has adjusted their course or continued, you might as well try landing on the surface of the sun.

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The others aren't wrong about there being "most used" routes, but what they overlook is that Aaron's halo is big, and while the miner has a pretty large window to cut their engines, anyone looking to hunt a miner has a very small window to do the same.

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Do it wrong by even a second, and you're literally hours of normal-space flight time away from where the miner may have cut their engines.

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If the miner was lazy/smart, then they probably started heading out from one of the moons. That's MORE distance.

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Aaron's Halo is, remarkably, the safest place to mine simply because of the ludicrous amount of factors in play.

shell edge
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thanks for the explanation

daring vale
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Here's a good real world demonstration - go to the forest, and pick up a rock. Look at it closely. Memorize every aspect of that rock.

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Then, close your eyes, throw it as hard and far as you can ahead of you, then spin around three times.

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Finding that rock is going to be easier than finding any ordinary miner in Aaron's Halo.

coarse cape
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yeah it also depends on where they go from

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and what loc they use to get to halo

shell edge
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I am a miner myself, and I do mine in the Aaron Halo belt....but here is what I would do to try and find me.... find the station I unload at...then you will be more likely to predict the direction I am going out in....

daring vale
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I've come across a few of those folks. Apparently they're not too appreciative of a hammerhead patrolling the refineries.

coarse cape
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oh yeah if you can find the unload location and follow their qt you can easily find them but if theyre smart they could qt to another spot in halo right after

shell edge
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hmm, while I am running out of the station, place a box inside one of my turrets and follow its location 🙂

daring vale
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Had one guy try to make a move even while I was still there, but the Mole pilot was smart enough to listen and match velocity and keep a straight trajectory, so that I could position my hammerhead between them and the pirate.

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Turn off that... thing, can't remember the name, but it limits how you coast...

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...and the hammerhead can just drift like a big shield, as long as the protected vessel doesn't accelerate or change course.

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Those shields can take a beating too.

shell edge
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not sure if that is even possible, since it is in a armistice zone

coarse cape
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most zones let you do combat

daring vale
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What's the reach of the armistice zone?

coarse cape
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most lagrange points armistice zones are like PO's

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so you can do combat you'll just get cs and instantly targeted by the turrets

shell edge
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I was thinking of placing a mission box inside one of the Mole side turrets with the tractor beam multitool as a way to track a Mole

coarse cape
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that can work

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well actually

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i think you cant cuz of how the turret is

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i think it needs to be extended out to put stuff in

shell edge
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I can enter it in space in the folded in position

coarse cape
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ah ok

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i havent been in the mole for a good bit lol

shell edge
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a bit more tricky on a landing pad

daring vale
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Yeah, you're going to have to find a way to beat gravity before the pilot returns.

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Seeing as the vessel requires a lift to access the bottom-most compartments, which are lower than the turrets...

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...that's going to be one hell of a challenge.

shell edge
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I have seen some people using the wing of another ship to move into the side turrets

daring vale
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At that point your being too overt.

shell edge
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yeah, I agree

daring vale
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"They're doing something with my ship, and I don't want to wait for the insurance."

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Your thirty minutes of maneuvering your ship to insert a box, literally vanishes into thin air.

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Which, happens anyway if they're dropping it off, since they can't refine all of it in a single go.

shell edge
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yeah

daring vale
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So they usually log out.

shell edge
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I usually store the ship when I am out of the elevator

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so that makes the timeframe even shorter

daring vale
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Padrammers makes storing mandatory anyway.

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Not really in the mood to lose a full hold to some dingus in an Aurora with accounts to burn.

sterile sparrow
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if you find , for example 3 quant rocks, and you want to mine them all, so you break each one up to the point it is ready to extract, is it normal that when you go to the others ones that had quant in them , that they are suddenly all inert?

shell edge
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I have only found two quantanium rocks side by side (35% and 45%), and i managed to get the both into the mole, but I have not had the fortune of getting more than 2 good quantanium rocks yet.

sterile sparrow
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they werent great, one was like 45% the others were like 9-12%. Still broke them all down to be ready to extract, and after extracting the first one, the other ones were all inert

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wonder if they start decaying/breaking down?

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or bug

shell edge
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if you can manage to extract all pieces in about 5 minutes, you should have enough time

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depends on your distance to the refinery of course

sterile sparrow
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i went to each one and lasered them all the way down, until they were ready for extraction.

shell edge
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I typically leave the site when I have 11-12 minutes left

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yeah, that is good practice

coarse cape
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i wonder how mining is in 3.14

sterile sparrow
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well, after i extracted my first pile, flew over to the other one, the rocks were still there, but every single one was 100% inert

coarse cape
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havent tried yet

shell edge
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hmm, that sounds like a bug

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unless you lasered them down with too much power (in the red zone)

sterile sparrow
coarse cape
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nice

sterile sparrow
shell edge
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just hope they fix the percentages on the minables to account for inert...

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in 3.14

sterile sparrow
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where do you mine it?

coarse cape
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i hope trading gets fixed

shell edge
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I mine in the Aaron Halo

coarse cape
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i would like to use my cat loaner

sterile sparrow
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oh nice, have not been there yet, been on lyria

sand condor
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Tight

sterile sparrow
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have an easier time not backtracking on a planet

shell edge
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I did a trading run in the cat the other day, but there is not much profit to be made.

sterile sparrow
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Clio was really good, but got griefed by people camping at MIC l1

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my first actual time mining

maiden basin
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What’s the best loadout for mining quantanium

shell edge
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Lancet MH for reducing instability, it also have 3 slots for installing subcomponents

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prospector or Mole?

chrome mural
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U normaly want a helix and a lancet with the mole

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Helix as main and lancet assisting with buffs

rich hatch
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What resources does Aaron's halo have that you won't find in other asteroid mining places

crimson mantle
hollow sedge
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Nothing but getting to it provides decent chances of not running into scumbags pirates and there is an okay amount of quantanium floating around. Space is 'easier' than planets/moons to fly around generally.

crimson mantle
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It is true that it's almost impossible to run into someone there.

rich hatch
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a i see. so its going a little farther for some peace and quiet. I will say, I have been playing for a bit and this is the first time Ihave mined in space. I miss seeing bexalite haha. but Quantanium is a good trade I suppose.

crimson mantle
rich hatch
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and holy crap SC Trade Tools site got a face lift since I last went there 🤤

hollow sedge
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You will pretty much be better off grabbing a 10% quantanium rock over trying to fill in the other 'premium' nodes.

rich hatch
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true, i did some number crunching on that when I started out with space mining. Sadly, I enjoy group mining in a mole so I rather enjoy the others and grabbing some quantaium at the end.

rich hatch
crimson mantle
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That's why I do it 😄

rich hatch
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I usually annoy my friends with how much crunching I do so this is a very welcome sight. I am a financial analyst irl so... numbers are friends, people not so much 😄

slim atlas
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When mining people are for sure not your friend lol

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Anymore if someone flies up and it isnt another mining ship I bug out

north oyster
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I'm not sure if they mean LIVE

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But I"m thinking so

north oyster
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The Tweet was from 10:43 AM · Aug 6, 2021

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Status page not updated to reflect incoming Live update

obsidian stone
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So much Cargo in SCL today.

regal pier
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Cargo is not my typical go-to gameplay loop, but it seems like certain high-risk/high-return commodities have some horrid sell limits that make no sense whatsoever. i.e. you can easily purchase 600 units of something, but can only sell 10 of them every ten minutes for profit at one location, or 100 of them every 10 minutes at a loss in another location. I know not all of them are like that, but what's the point in even having those high value low rate trade options? Is it a bug? Is it a placeholder? Is there a way around it other than just picking a different resource?

oak lake
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yeah trade is fucked right now

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rework is in the works though

regal pier
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Here's hoping it's soon. 🍀

shell edge
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I advice looking at https://youtu.be/2muGWtX8e7g if you haven't, to get an idea of what they are currently working on regarding the economy of star citizen (including trading and cargo-play)

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north oyster
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The new 3.14 comes with a learning curve

north oyster
obsidian stone
north oyster
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same

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Zero wasted words, unreal video for sure

shell edge
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3.14 live

obsidian stone
rich hatch
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hopefully this update helped heal trading

tame elbow
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It didn't

crimson mantle
lofty crest
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obligatory "is cargo fixed this patch?"

crimson mantle
daring vale
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They can work on the servers until the sun explodes; I shouldn't be losing three days of filling a hold on the one rare occasion that someone sneezed on the servers.

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It just shouldn't take this long to fill a hold.

coarse cape
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Im guessing you havent added the taurus to the website yet

rich hatch
coarse cape
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fun

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think im prob going to use my taurus loaner for refined ore transport

foggy stone
outer orchid
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All the jobs I had at the refinery got wiped.
Should I issue a report so they can return them?

coarse cape
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that link looks sus ngl

ionic sandal
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wats the cargo third party site again for where sell stuff?

coarse cape
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you can use this to see different routes etc

ionic sandal
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thx

crimson mantle
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Taurus is now there 🙂

coarse cape
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👍

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time to see how much i can make off of scrap lmao

muted phoenix
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Mining roids needs help

north oyster
coarse cape
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hopefully trading gets somewhere this patch

outer orchid
hollow sedge
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Has trading been updated in anyway for 3.14?

coarse cape
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nope

undone palm
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Probebly the best agricium rock I EVER seen and what do you know the server crash.... How typical.... How are you supossed to earn creds in this univers?

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blissful oxide
crimson mantle
crimson mantle
blissful oxide
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Awesome, thanks !

crimson mantle
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That being said, ship handling is different and scanning has been reworked too.

blissful oxide
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Yeah, can't find the key to scan yet x)

foggy stone
crimson mantle
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It is, indeed, the official patch notes for the website 🙂

blissful oxide
#

Anyone achieved to sell the medical supply for ninetail event ?

teal crater
#

So new update.. is trading still ass?

crimson mantle
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Ninetails blocade is supposed to drive up prices
Otherwise, pretty much the same

teal crater
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Ah pog

blissful oxide
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Yeah but I cant sell the medical supply :/

teal crater
#

Finally can use my starlifter

azure prawn
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Sooo, How is Taurus for cargo running

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I might retire from being a combat pilot and enjoy my space truck

crimson mantle
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168 SCU
4 gimballed S4 guns
2 medium shields

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It should hold it's own quite well

pallid temple
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Isn't the Constellation a S3 shield ship?

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Or was that Andromeda only?

crimson mantle
#

Maybe the wiki didn't update yet... good point.

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Erkul shows 1xS3 shield

pallid temple
#

I did hear some stuff about the changes not being done yet in the PTU from the Patch Watch post

azure prawn
pliant escarp
modest helm
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How do you read the rock percentages in 3.14?

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For example 4364% Quant

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nvm

north oyster
north oyster
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Also hear that material vanishes as you mine the rock. I have not verified it yet, but from what I hear, that 40% rock might only yield about a 10% haul

manic whale
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ROC/Cutlass/Prospector currently having same price for any of the rental plans

azure prawn
#

Should i do Astentine trading on a Taurus?

crimson mantle
azure prawn
silk moon
blissful oxide
silk moon
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Good to know

blissful oxide
#

Yeah 😄

silk moon
#

I've noticed that the area around the rocks is really funky now

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I will point at one and maybe be off to the side of it and it will go away.

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Also, it will be scanned and then when I activate my laser, will rescan...

odd nacelle
#

Bezdek and Lathan still the top performers for cargo running?

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Yeah, looks like it. Laranite if you can get it, otherwise Titanium.

hollow sedge
#

can u fill up a c2 with titanium

odd nacelle
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Yeah, I have 4mil

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I believe it'll be like what? 700k to fill the C2?

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It was 1.2m to fill a Cat with Laranite

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so can't be more than that for an extra 150 someodd SCU of Titanium

opal yoke
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IF you can find a place that sells you the 600 sth SCU of Titanium, yes

odd nacelle
#

Considering both Lathan and Bezdek are high volume titanium producers

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I think it'll be possible.

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The alternative is the route I ran in 3.11 around A18

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less traffic compared to the Arial moons, so usually a decent haul.

small chasm
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what kind of supplies should we be taking to the blockaded port? food?

azure prawn
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Medical Supplies

small chasm
#

ty

opal yoke
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Where in Orison is the admin?

azure prawn
opal yoke
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Thanks, found it, but the event supply for Meds is already broken beyond use

wanton vault
#

Is there some sort of trick to ROC mining? Can't seem to scan for the rocks and I'm not really finding anything at any location.. iv found three rocks in an hour and it seems lik the only way to find them is to fly low and you have to get pretty close before you can see them..

opal yoke
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Nope that about it

hollow sedge
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go fast?

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also rock spawns are better on the hurston moons like arial

coarse cape
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Go low and don’t go above 100m/s

muted phoenix
#

Anyone else having when mining with Prospector. I know the V scanner is screwed. My problems are with the mining scanner not remembering what the roids are made of and have to re scan. Also the scanner seems slower, Last is roids are left unmarked so you don't know which ones you have scanned.

wanton vault
#

Yeah that's where I found those three rocks.. would be nice if there was a better way to do it, seems to almost not be worth doing at this point.

coarse cape
#

these new percentages for mining rocks are weird

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i got a 2.6k quant rock with 1091.91%

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in scanning mode^

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and its different in mining mode

teal wing
#

Yeah, that's been messing with me so much

coarse cape
#

so i found scanning mode doesnt pickup inert

raw shell
#

Second day back after a year break. I'm starting to think mining got worse. Used to be able to mine agrecium and make enought to cover crashes and such

teal wing
#

I'd agree on mining feeling less fun this patch

spice shuttle
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lol i got a rock with 3182% laranite

teal wing
#

So if I understand right, does that turn into 31.82% laranite excluding inert mats?

#

In terms of rock composition?

coarse cape
#

no it might be less

#

from what ive found its not going to be the same between modes

north oyster
wanton vault
north oyster
#

Roger, I'm about to go in the field to some of my favorite spots and give it a shot. I'll see if I can figure something out. The sad thing is that if we submit a IC report some idiots will close it out saying "works as intended" so we might have to raise hell about it.

knotty bloom
#

been out for a minute

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where to sell minerals at PO now?

spice shuttle
#

did they change the algorithm for quant spawning?

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the only rocks i can find are 2%

hollow sedge
ebon estuary
#

Lorville seems like a bad place to sell laranite at the moment

#

Is titanium the new meta?

spice shuttle
#

i ragequitted because i couldnt get out of my chair of the prospector with a full load of quant as i was landed at CRU L1

#

did they fuck up everything with 3.14?

#

never had an issue with that before

main saddle
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ship gets impounded and you're left standing at the terminals

north oyster
#

OK, well is seems that CIG wants to KILL ROC Mining. I might not be the best at mining with the ROC but I purchased one as soon as they went on sell. I've mined with the ROC through every patch (though a couple of patches the ROC was totally broken). Let's just say that I searched for about 3 hours and I found two clusters of 3 hadanite gem rocks. So a total of 6 rocks found (I did find some dolvine once, but just passed that trash by). They UPPED the number of gems in each rock to 30. So that was 180 hadanite gems that fetched me 49.5K aUEC. I normally make 1.2 MILLION aUEC in that time (or more).

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The Ping will not pick up a gem deposit unless you are within about 1000 meters. I flew at 28 kph at a few hundred meters above the ground. I could see large ore deposits for over 10K all over the place. So the Prospector/MOLE teams don't have anything to worry about.

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"by design" my ass CIG, you've done your normal throw crap against the wall and see what sticks

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@crimson mantle Can you still pull the status of hadanite ore locations like prior? Is Aberdeen still one of the best spots? Thanks

dusty current
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Heyo can anyone give me some insight

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i have no clue what i'm doing

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swift trench
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Gotta find a rock with something valuable first

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This rock is worth less than a burrito

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Once rock is scanned ( it is not in your screenshot, related to a bug with mining right now ).
Keep the charging level within the green zone

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rince and repeat until the outline of the rock changes from yellow (minable) to purple (extractable)

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extract. Refine. Sell. Profit!

dusty current
#

@swift trench How do I get charge level up, what should I be looking for with ROC that'll bring me profit?

swift trench
# swift trench Once rock is scanned ( it is not in your screenshot, related to a bug with minin...

This is the bug: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-11821
Issue talks about the Prospector but happens with the Mole and the ROC right now

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swift trench
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there's probably a ton of other similar websites but this one works for me

dusty current
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Idk, I'm renitng it. Want to try mining to decidie if I wanna do it longterm

swift trench
#

A lot of people will tell you to mine Quantanium.
I say: If you're new, stick to other stuff for now like Bexalyte and whatnot

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Quantanium is unstable and will explode within 15 minutes (I think?) after extracting it

dusty current
#

that's what I heard

swift trench
#

and right now there's a bug where it explodes after 1 minute

dusty current
#

but with ROC you can't do that they say

swift trench
#

can't do what ?

dusty current
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Can't mine it

swift trench
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oh ok

dusty current
#

I can only hold as much as the ROC can hold right?

swift trench
#

that's right

dusty current
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so look for the good stuff

swift trench
#

yeah

dusty current
#

Bexalyte you say

swift trench
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Hadanite, Bexalite, Laranite, Taranite

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I think

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best check the website I just sent you to make sure

#

I literally can't play right now because of the ship claiming bug so

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🤷‍♂️

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best of luck to you Sir

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gotta run to the post office

dusty current
#

Can you trash the stuff you don't want?

swift trench
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you can't

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only at the refining step

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but can't trash it from your cargo afaik

thin escarp
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yall

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he is in a roc

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and tryin to mine a ship mineable rock

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you need to go to arial or aberdeen and scan for hadanite

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wayyyy smaller rocks.

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@dusty current dm me i can explain mining to you.

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with correct info.

swift trench
#

Oh didn't know there was another grade of rocks just for ROC

spice shuttle
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i have troubles finding good rocks

#

did they change the spawns?

azure prawn
azure prawn
# ebon estuary Is titanium the new meta?

Ok, to answer you. Yes, due to its high stocks you can do fast trades for low gain instead of waiting at the console for 30 mins for laranite. Just don't forget to go to other stations if the stations titanium isn't enough

opal yoke
#

Has anybody actually gotten any amount of Medical Supplies? I managed to gather like 6 SCU in 2 hours and that seems low even for SC standards

azure prawn
#

Always low stocks

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And even worse if an C2 in your server hoards them

opal yoke
#

Yeah, I figured CIG might have been smart enough to maybe just raise the stocks or regen a bit, given that its their new event...

azure prawn
#

Fixing the stocks is related to the servers themselves @opal yoke

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So yea, we need to wait CIG to fix the servers and then stocks will be good?

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Even if they raise it alot, it still is bugged because of a Cat fully loaded with Laranite used to 30k servers

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And it still is I think

opal yoke
#

Its just a bit sad, like not sad that they cant fix it, just sad I cant use either of my ships for anything in game expect help people move so they can claim their ships

azure prawn
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I am sure they are trying to fix it. But until Server meshing it's near impossible

opal yoke
#

Yeah, but hey Titanium atleast works

azure prawn
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Yea

north oyster
# dusty current <@!205158441528852480> How do I get charge level up, what should I be looking fo...

You will need to have a ship that you can transport the ROC in (Nomad, Cutlass Black, Freelancer, etc). You fly around the surface doing a PING until you get a hit of the correct type of ore. The large ore are for the Prospector/MOLE size ships. At this time, finding ore for the ROC is just about impossible. I flew around for 3 hours on one of the best planets for hadanite and I found two clusters. So might want to pause on the ROC adventures for now.

hollow sedge
#

still do i need better laser for prospector ?

teal wing
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Depends on what you're mining

dusty current
north oyster
silver dove
#

hi guys i am trying to find the small rocks for the roc but i cant i find only the bigone for the prospector

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what is change with the scan

dusty current
dusty current
dusty current
silver dove
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i know its with diamond the problem is with the old scan i find the now i cant with the new scan

dusty current
#

I’m about to buy a prospector and need someone to bring my cutty along if you want to join Sportis.

north oyster
# dusty current Prospector is $150 right?

The cutty can deliver refined ore to market. As to purchase, I was thinking in-game buy. I own a prospector with RL funds also. I have also purchased in game too (so I don't have to wait on an insurance claim time)

dusty current
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Just bought prospector. @north oyster Can you send me a loadout to get for it?

fleet furnace
#

I've never really done mining, so if either of you need someone to bring along for whatever reason I'm willing to try it and see how that goes

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My new ship does have some ore scanner thing which my old one didn't have

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And I was confused to why as my ship is a fighter, lol

dusty current
fleet furnace
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I'm on break at work xd

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I'm available in like 5 hours

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If you're still on by then

dusty current
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No worries, Shoot me a DM,

fleet furnace
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👌

dusty current
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I'm right in the middle of it yet there are no atroids

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what am I doing wrong here? Lol

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anyone?

teal wing
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Have you broadcast the magic password?

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Seriously though, the belt can be pretty specific on distances so it might be worth doing a few 100k hops in either direction

azure prawn
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@dusty current Use this
Aaron Halo Distance to Markers:
CRU L1 to ARC L5: 13,000,000
MIC L1 to ARC L5: 8,958,130 (9,000,000)
CRU L4 to ARC L5: 9,000,000
HUR L4 to MIC L1: 19,000,000

knotty bloom
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So.. scanning.. no longer a scan tab? just one tap?

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ah.. scanning mode

spice shuttle
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so do i still have to wait to sell a full load of refined materials because the station is full?

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is kinda stupid for a whole city on a planet to just say, nah we are full, your few tons cant be stored here

azure prawn
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And V is scanning mode

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Tab is now just a ping

teal wing
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Is it possible to tell whether a rock is worth mining just from scanning mode, or are people still checking with mining mode? I've not gotten the hang of identifying good rocks with scanning mode yet

spice shuttle
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if you see a rock with red dots, it has quant

foggy iron
north oyster
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overall, except for laser head, everything is good stock. I would remove the laser gun gimbals and not worry about weapons at this time.

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CRU-L1 has a 3% yield bonus when you want to try Quantainium mining.

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Don't mine/refine anything under Agricium

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Values Chart

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Borase is worthless in that it breaks horribly as you try to mine it (or it did last patch, I haven't tried this patch)

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Dinyx Solventation is the best yield vs price but takes the longest

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Patch 3.14 "State of Trade" video update

red halo
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When you get a mining ship, do you just jump straight to mine quantanium after getting the helix head? Im having trouble having the bar stay in the green zone. jumps way too much or is it just desync

coarse cape
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lancet is pretty good for quant

crimson oak
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I dont really get the new scanner when it comes to mining, the scanner shows this rock as having 540% quantanium and im 20ft away from the rock right in front of it, yet when i switch to mining mode, its really particular on how you can highlight the rock and when you do its showing like .. 2% quantanium

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it seems a lot harder scanning the contents of rocks from a distance and at a glance overall, very clunky. I don't understand why hte scanner is giving me contents of 1000% and so forth either, whatever the strength of the scan, using scroll wheel.

coarse cape
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scanning mode doesnt account for inert

smoky linden
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welp i saw the taurus is back around, time to do cargo runs

crimson oak
crimson oak
# red halo When you get a mining ship, do you just jump straight to mine quantanium after g...

Sounds like you're having instability issues, so you'd be better off with a Lancet head for Quantanium especially. It gives you -75% instability bonus, if that's the right choice of words anyway. You could also try using the Optimum mining consumable, it gives you a bigger green zone. But I'd highly advise consumables like Surge and Stampede instead, then use the 3rd slot for a passive boost like Torrent III or Focus III.

lyric nest
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seems like theirs no way to make auec at a good pace without doing combat or mining...

main saddle
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using that method, you can drop out anywhere you cross that area, no matter the origin to destination.

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I never count km. I just watch my trajectory on the map. Once I hit that area, I close the map and drop out of QT.

modest helm
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Tried a Ninetails delivery mission to CRU-L4 (Medical Supplies) but I could only buy 1 SCU of stuff (Port Olisar). Is this how it's supposed to be or is it a bug?

coarse cape
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PO has a really low refresh rate, try going to research outposts

crimson oak
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they're all linked across servers now so its super easy to max out vendors, thats mainly why trading is so dead as an income

smoky cloud
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im curious if i mine do i have to refine or can just sell it raw

crimson oak
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you can sell it raw at the refinery as well

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instead of refining the ore, theres a kiosk next to the usual refining panel where ya can just sell the ore raw

smoky cloud
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aweome thank you

opal yoke
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So with Cargo still being broken, the event as well and me hearing about a lot of mining bugs ingame, what is the actual way to make profits these days.

blissful oxide
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Doing ninetails event

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and/or bounty

opal yoke
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Isnt ninetails utterly shagged because of the Med-supply being so low?

blissful oxide
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Nah I mean, the combat part

opal yoke
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Oh yeah

blissful oxide
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You could take some med on the starfarer wreck too

opal yoke
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Dont really have a ship for that, I mean my Arrow aint trash but my hangar is definitely a truckers

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But thanks for the tips

blissful oxide
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Use your hauler to take the meds on the wrecked starfarer

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haven't try myself, cause couldn't find the entry

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but seen a video where they did

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bunch of medical supply inside (and some ninetails)

crimson oak
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unless things get hotfixed then yeah looking like bounties are the only viable income, havent tried the event yet though, dunno what kinda income you'd get from it.

blissful oxide
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got 250k from medical supply with 1/4 of an M2
Dunno how much scu does the wreck give

opal yoke
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Dont have a ship for those anymore, but I guess I can see if I can pick stuff up from the Starfarer yeah.

blissful oxide
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Need to try but I have the prison bug feelsbadman

opal yoke
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I spend 2h getting 6 SCU a few days ago

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What Prison bug?

blissful oxide
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If you end up in prison, when getting outside from legit way, you get blocked in a bed without being able to leave it :/

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I need to do a char reset, but I want to try if their is more option before

runic arch
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Hadanite mining in a roc worth the hassle?

raw shell
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I've spent about 4 hours total looking for hadanite on ariel, aberdeen, hurston, yela, and daymar. I found about six rocks total, two of which were covered in sulfer or something on arel and couldnt be mined.. what little hadanite I did get from that, was lost in a 30k.

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When the roc first came out, it was pretty fun and rewarding hunting hadanite. Now its no fun and not rewarding.

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Similar bad experience in the prospector. No agrecium spawining to be worth the trouble. I'm not sure that quantanium mining is worth the trouble with the risk and mechanics but I plan to try that a bit more before giving up.

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I suspect they want flight combat tested, so other ways to make money are shut down

red halo
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i just got the prospector and spent and hour without finding any quantanium. was checking them out in the aaron halo. Did i do something wrong?

raw shell
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I had the same experience. I was able to find more on yela

red halo
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quantanium? Do you have enough time to reach to safety?

raw shell
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I was looking for agrecium at the time but I would think so. Should be able to get to cru l1 in time

foggy iron
# red halo quantanium? Do you have enough time to reach to safety?

You get about 15 minutes from first bringing the Quant aboard so you need to break it all up first and try to remember which chunks you want to bring aboard then you start hoovering it up and the clock starts. In my experience that is more than enough time to collect it all and get back to the refinery and store your ship. This assumes of course that you are taking the Quant to the nearest refinery. Try mining near Arccorp then taking it to a refinery near Crusader and you might have issues 🙂

foggy stone
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I agree with @foggy iron . The only time that I actually had an issue with the timer was when I was lazy about breaking up the chunks in advance. The other thing I recommend is to also fully scan each chunk so that the system remembers it and you are not re-scanning from scratch when trying to find that one last piece of quant.

crimson oak
red halo
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well the issue i have now is finding them.

blissful rain
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WIth cargo refactor, can u actually open up a crate and take out its contents by hand such as medical supplies or agricium etc?

blissful oxide
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Yes, but no eta

north oyster
# runic arch Hadanite mining in a roc worth the hassle?

At this time, "No" because you can't find any deposits with the way the current ping is deployed in game. You may have better results but I spent 3 hours and I found 2 deposits of hadanite (for a total of 6 rocks) that resulted in 49,500 aUEC being made. Normally I would've made multi millions in that time.

tame elbow
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You have a personal inventory with a bunch of stuff in it and can drag it between inventories

red halo
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i still dont get how you earn money by mining. you find the ore, refine it and transport it to city to sell?

tame elbow
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Yep, that's how you make money from ship mining

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Hand and ROC mining just has you mine gems and sell those directly to a mining outpost

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You can't refine gems

runic arch
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How would I get started with mining? If Roc isn’t viable what is (preferably without spending several million)

tame elbow
red halo
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ok so just now i've mined like 1280? quantanium. So repeat that till you got enough to fill a ship worth to move to city to sell. Wouldnt the illegal surveillance be faster or am i missing something?

tame elbow
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Illegal surveillance is probably more efficient, sure. I prefer mining because I like mining

runic arch
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Yeah I was gonna say

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Takes 5 ish minutes excluding travel time per illegal

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Although

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If I save for a prospector and the quantanium attachment, would that gain more?

tame elbow
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Probably not

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After 3 trips of ~30 minutes each

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I have about 200k to sell

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So 200k/1.5 hours

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Meh...

blissful rain
velvet fractal
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Is there any way to tell when or if my mining refinery order is finished?

tame elbow
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You can go the refinery and look at it

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It also gives you a notification when it's done

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When you log in

south marsh
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anyone else finding the MSR unreliable for trading due to ramp killing you (for me it is physics) ? it happened to me in 3.13 and 3.14

red halo
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literally pay to die

coarse dust
tame elbow
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How does the ramp kill you?

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Just walking on it?

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I've not experienced this yet

rocky coral
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I just got a prospector, every time I go out and mine an asteroid belt i get shot and blown up.... is that just unlucky or just expected outcome?

coarse dust
tame elbow
north oyster
south marsh
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oof

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For me, intermittently, when I step out of my ramp, magic physics flings me in to the back of my cargo bay and kills me. Of course, this only happens when I have no medpen equipped and a full cargo bay

north oyster
rocky coral
crimson oak
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A-A-Ron's halo is certainly the safest spot to decent mining spot ratio covered

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check out lyria in arccorp too

rocky coral
north oyster
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Let me check, I'll have to remote in

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No, that's right. Here for reference:

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I mine that route most often for Quantainium because it is quick back to CRU-L1 and also CRU-L1 offers a 3% quantainium refinery bonus that no other refinery offers

fierce ore
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first time cargo running SLAM - bought it from jumptown, went to go sell it but wasn't able to? the trading console showed up the SLAM but wouldn't let me use the 'slider' - any ideas why? 🙂

north oyster
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You can only sell a few at a time. Depending on how much you bought to sell, you might be there for a month or two.

fierce ore
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i wasn't able to sell any?

north oyster
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Wrong place then. @crimson mantle will give you the best place to sell

tame elbow
fierce ore
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i used this site

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definitely the right place to sell

tame elbow
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Gallogs I bet

north oyster
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A word of caution- Trade it totally screwed up

fierce ore
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i used sc-trade.tools

tame elbow
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My bad

fierce ore
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CRU-L5 No Questions Asked

north oyster
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that's usually the place

fierce ore
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I clicked Sell SLAM

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and tried using the slider to select quanitry but its greyed out

north oyster
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Maybe grim? I've not done contraband since last year

tame elbow
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That usually means there's no demand for it

north oyster
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thus the "Trade is FUBAR" comment 😦

fierce ore
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damn

north oyster
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I concur

fierce ore
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so i'm stuck with 3 SCU of SLAM?

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or do i need to go somewhere else?

north oyster
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try other spots, can hope

fierce ore
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is there a way to check if demand is high in other locations first?

north oyster
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no, unfortunately

fierce ore
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so running Vice is pointless?

north oyster
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Trade is pointless

fierce ore
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why's that

north oyster
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There is a pending Cargo Refactor that touches about every single aspect of the game. Trade probably won't be addressed until that aspect has been addressed, is my speculation. Even during the new Nine Tails Lockdown, the trade journal doesn't even work. You can't buy medical supplies.

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I own a Hercules C2 and it is gathering dust in the hanger

fierce ore
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so whats the best way of making a profit
?

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i'm new to the game, only a week in

north oyster
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I'd say don't get discouraged because the game is going through some huge changes. It is not a functional game, I've been playing for about a year. Bounty Hunting is a good option. Mining with a Prospector is a good option BUT the rental is worthless (catch-22). Unfortunately my go to method, the ROC, is now broken in this patch

hollow sedge
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Combat is the best way by far.

north oyster
fierce ore
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aurora mr

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i'd like to buy a prospector so i can mine quantanium successfully and easily with attachments

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but 2mil seems so far away 😦

north oyster
# fierce ore aurora mr

that can handle some of the bounty hunting but you'll need to upgrade some. I send you a DM when you have a moment.

hollow sedge
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30 day rentals are still buggy in price I think, so you can go that route. Don't forget that if you buy a prospector you will have to buy a cargo ship as well.

The Cutlass black is still pretty capable and you can do hrt bounties even if you're bad at combat like me.

rocky coral
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been going back and forward looking for some sort of rocks, i am around here, pressing V button and staring into space... any other special tricks?

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rocky coral
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scratch that found it

north oyster
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I normally KILL the jump with the I or U button. Or hold the B to force quit the jump. If you don't the Quantum sort of spools down and it takes forever to stop

rocky coral
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thanks and after the rock has signal strength 100%, i thought it was RMB for scan?

tacit delta
lament smelt
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Anyone having horrible trouble finding gems using the Roc? Seems to be like a 400m max detection on ship scan on the hadenite and others and there's just barely any

vocal tide
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Where and what to min in 3.14?

teal wing
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I've had luck mining quant at HUR-L3, made 800k across four mining trips so far this patch. Sounds like ROC mining has been turbonerfed though

vocal tide
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Oh ok 😒

north oyster
teal wing
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Hopefully it's just a missing decimal or something somewhere

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Or they're really trying to shift the testing focus away from mining and onto something else like combat

lament smelt
fierce ore
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shoutout to @north oyster for helping me on my way with some UEC to start my journey into the verse 😄

chrome beacon
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In general is trading for at least some reasonable profit doable right now or is it still a complete no go?

obsidian stone
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I just 30k'ed twice in 10 mnm. If you'r feeling ballzy, you can try to trade in that environment.

chrome beacon
obsidian stone
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I would say No.

chrome beacon
coarse cape
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really depends on what you can pick up

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i hauled a taurus full of laranite,titanium, and tungsten and made abt 30k

dusty current
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what's the best place to sell quan rn?

chrome beacon
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because it's about to blow up your ship

dusty current
chrome beacon
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use that

outer orchid
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The patch ruined ship mining! I think they want us to quit this game. Not only the Mole's HUD still vanishes depending on the angle, but it also mixes up extraction and fracture modes, it's lost all its memory so it re-scans every rock you had already scanned, EVEN IF YOU ARE LASERING IT ALREADY AND APPLIES A MODULE, IN THE MOST SENSITIVE MOMENTS...! On both ships.
The Mole became a huge crap! It invokes de-syncs ALL THE TIME, we have really poor control of the lasers pointing, the windshields become opaque so you can't see shait...
Now, imagine the only thing you really enjoyed in the game was mining....

dusty current
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Can't relate.

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chrome beacon
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it's fine

coarse cape
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kinda notice trading isnt super fucked

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managed to get 70scu or laranite in 10 mins along with 104scu of titanium

south marsh
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my worry is that a 30k is going to kill my cargo. or a physics glitch on my MSR is going to kill me and lose the cargo

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does availability of supply and demand feel different from 3.13 to you @coarse cape ?

dusty current
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Not bad for a first run with the prosp. Great return lol

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coarse cape
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nice

coarse cape
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i think keider forgot to input anything for trading on the taurus or theres no routes at all lmao

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@south marsh this was the info from my last run i just did

1501 Laranite: 40,182 sold: 46,312
4877 Astatine: 37,001 sold: 41,457
6003 diamond: 37,772 sold: 40,059
5019 tungsten: 18,445 sold: 19,700
Buying total: 133,400 sold total: 147,528
Profit: 14,128

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in a taurus ^

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wasnt the best but a lot better from what i did from 3.13

south marsh
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Thx. I also keep detailed notes so it is awesome to compare

coarse cape
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yeah

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i just wanted to start keeping a log lol

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i prob could of gotten more laranite if i was patient and waited for refresh but there was a 30k about 30 minutes after buying it so

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also notice 30ks havent been as frequent for me which is nice, i only had that one bc i rejoined a server thats been up for hours lol

outer orchid
outer orchid
# chrome beacon it's fine

So, for you, the mining scanner is still remembering the properties of all the broken rocks it has already scanned.

urban bronze
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So I'm reading trade might be worth it again?

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Because I was debating melting my C2 and buying 2 or 3 small ships, maybe a Gladius, Freelancer Max, and a Prospector or something else

coarse cape
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i would keep the c2

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they were talking about cargo in one of the isc's

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it's been improving. i think its just that people dont get that the shop inventories are shared over different servers so going to the same spot will refresh for someone else after you went to it and they empty it so when you go its empty

spiral olive
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Anyone know the rate the CRU stations are buying med supplies for?

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when the lockdown is occurring ofc

urban bronze
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I still have the cat as a loaner for my Hull C, so I think that'll have to suffice for now, C2 will be in buyback pledges though. Also huh I knew the supply was shared server wide but I didn't know about that refresh thing

ornate locust
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hello guys just wanna ask before i get there and its all fucked

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does orison buy quantanium or am i doing a run to area 18

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not sure i trust the trade tools

ornate fossil
teal crater
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Yeah... starfarer is such a ugly ship inside but also outside

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Needs rework

velvet fractal
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Anyone know why i cannot sell my refined ore at the new babbage planetary services? is there a workaround if its a bug?

north oyster
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Me thinks 3.14 is going to be VERY ROUGH for awhile, if not until 3.15 for just about everything in the 'verse but especially for stability and mining. While I did have one stable run of about 3 hours, prior I had 4 crashes before finally getting a good run. ROC mining is DEAD in this patch for now. RIP

pliant matrix
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great xD you cut me in my grind to get a ship capable to carry the roc since I melted my cutlass to get C2 xD

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guess I'll stick to BH

lament smelt
teal crater
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Money wise nothing to do but do bouties in-between crashes

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Sadge

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Bad patch

urban bronze
north oyster
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Full Disclosure, ROC mining is not Fully Dead. Allow me to clarify. The new PING that CIG has implemented does not find gem deposits unless you are within 1000m of the deposit. This was a "Known Bug" each patch note for all of the PTU until the last patch when CIG decided that this was not a bug but rather a "Feature". So the fact the PING can not find deposits is now a feature. You can go and mine with the ROC. To test the new system I flew over 3 hours and I found two deposits of hadanite (and one of dollvine). Those 6 rocks (2 deposits of 3 rocks each) earned me 49,500 aUEC.

hollow sedge
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@velvet fractal they don't buy any metals. You have to go further in to the tdd. Same area but they have different offerings

pliant matrix
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flying at 1km from the ground is kinda tricky in ships like cutlass or even worst msr. especially on planets like Aberdeen where it can get really dark

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Maybe with a connie and it's vtol it can be done but still it's a pain to not have a radar with a range of 1k or more xD

north oyster
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The Freelancer MAX is my ship of choice for this duty.

ornate locust
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flying low is not a problem now you can ping

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even better, make a macro for it

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so you have constant essentially ground mapping radar

ornate locust
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kinda sucks

mortal karma
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Hi people, I have 3 Mil to spend and want to start some mining. any recommended guides for ships and process?

dusty current
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Best money

harsh basalt
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anybody know a good chart that shows what ores are worth mining?

stiff bramble
harsh basalt
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thanks

chrome beacon
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so, when you press V and scan a rock, before you scan it with your mining laser....it says some precentages on the right of what's in it. How the balls do you use that information? It doesn't seem to mean what it appears to mean.

proper phoenix
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im at 100% laser intensity and bar of charge level is moving to like 1%

north oyster
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for refinery, use the Dinyx Solventation. It is slow but gives the best yield for the least price. Also, you can stack as many refinery jobs as you wish. Just remember, that when you pull them into a ship for transport, the whole single job has to fit. Say you have to jobs of 30 SCU and 18 SCU, you could not take both in a Cutlass Black.

north oyster
coarse cape
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so i want to get back into mining but the scanning mode gives whack numbers, any advice?

north oyster
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for the size, move the decimal two places to the left

coarse cape
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aight

north oyster
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it's like they messed up the different between SCU and unit of an item.

coarse cape
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ah ok

dusty current
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@teal trench what do you mean?

teal trench
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the hadanite spawns inside large rocks that are unminable

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ill try and send a screen shot after my char reset

dusty current
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Unminable to you

coarse cape
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are you roc mining?

dusty current
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^^^

teal trench
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yeah

dusty current
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That’s why.