industrial-professions

[shy magnet]

how do i know which turret weapon slot on the mole goes where

[tardy flower]

Try to equip one by one 😁

[foggy stone]

Technically when we are in the mole turrets we are in space sitting on the turret. Where the Prospector we have the spaceship between us and the turret. IDK, my opinion is that is intentional due to the way the mole is designed. Maybe they create a space suit that dampens the noise?

[shell edge]

When having normal speaking audio level, the 100% sound on the Lancets are so loud compared to all other mining heads, that I think it is damaging to our ears, so I really hope they fix it, I doubt it can be intentional.

[sharp pebble]

i still have faith that this will hapen

[foggy stone]

That's a fair way to put it. I get it being loud but you are right it is damaging to the ears. I ended up cranking down the audio input of the game but shouldn't have to do that just for a gameplay loop.

[haughty anvil]

if I lost one of the 3 parcels in a delivery mission shouldn't the mission fail?

[paper pewter]

Mole Lancet, prospector lancet or both?

[glacial flame]

https://giant.gfycat.com/AfraidSecondKookaburra.mp4

[azure prawn]

Guys, what is the best and rapid trading route for 3.13?

Willing to use either Cutlass Black or Constellation Andromeda

[crimson mantle]

I would try these, but feel free to tweak the filters: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Constellation%2520Andromeda%2522,%2522investment%2522:250000,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:5000%257D

[azure prawn]

Thanks for the respond. Will check them @crimson mantle

[crimson mantle]

Availability of goods may vary, but that refresh rate filter removes the truly low-stocks commodities

[shut pawn]

Where do we sell metals and minerals after getting them refined? I went to Olisar to try to sell some gold and it isn't letting me. Are there specific spots we need to sell them?

[oak lake]

https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer

[shut pawn]

ah thank you

[thin escarp]

@shut pawn i sell at a18

[north oyster]

Yeah, PO only buys things like scrap, etc. Gone are the days of selling diamonds and more there.

[shut pawn]

Yeah, seems like the way to go is the trade dev division places for most things

[foggy iron]

The expensive ores mined from asteroids almost all need to be sold at TDDs in the major cities though something tells me there is a single outpost that buys one of them.

[hollow sedge]

does anyone know what it means when my mining modules says its offline? trying to mine a rock

[frozen lotus]

If they are consumables, then they might be spent.

[hollow sedge]

ohh okay thanks a lot

[north oyster]

You only get (normally) 5 uses out of the consumables and Unfortunately, we do not have a count of how many we have used. The consumable I use the most (Surge) I normally keep in two slots as a backup.

[night delta]

Actually if you are in mining mode in the Prospector and look up there are 3 numbers it will show you how many are left per socket

[frozen lotus]

I did not know that!

[night delta]

Yeah i found it by mistake myself a few months ago

[wispy thicket]

How many units is in one scu

[night delta]

i do believe 1SCU = 100units

[wispy thicket]

Ty

[crimson mantle]

Correct, for most tradable commodities.

Hand minables and hot dogs are 1000 = 1.

[night delta]

explains why the ROC is 0.8SCU then thanks

[rocky veldt]

how do i calculate hand minable because i don't understand there

[subtle forum]

bruh

[azure prawn]

@crimson mantle Hey, remember the list you gave me yesterday? Titanium Price is outdated

Your list says 7.1 aUEC

While ingame its 7.95 aUEC

Might wanna update it

[crimson mantle]

The universe simulation makes the prices vary based on supply and demand. Since the data comes from the static game files, the tools will currently only report the most optimistic profit to be made. I hope to have dynamic prices in the future.

• https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq

🙂

The baseline is the best I can do atm

Treat it like a datamining tool

[azure prawn]

Yes i know

but isnt the economy stable prices rn?

[crimson mantle]

absolutely not

[azure prawn]

Really?

[crimson mantle]

if you check in an hour or two, it will have fluctuated again

[azure prawn]

I thought it was stable prices

Thats something i learned rn

[crimson mantle]

never really was 😄
The economy is not using quanta, but the inventory levels do drive the prices according to dynamic formulea

[azure prawn]

Damn, Ok

Thats something new for me

I always thought the prices were stable

[crimson mantle]

No worries, it's quite obscure :/

That's why I don't take player-reported prices right now: it can widly swing in a few hours

It's also why buying the last few bits of laranite is not great: it will be the worst price possible

If you filter out Titanium, Fluorine and gold are the next best

But again, the prices on the website are the most optimistic: as if no one traded anything.

[foggy stone]

Regarding the consumables I wish they would allow us to get up from our seat, push a button, and load a new canister of the consumable. if i have 3 surge in my inventory why do I have to dock and respawn my ship for it to load. (Or I am doing something wrong)

[north oyster]

Awesome, thanks for the info. I rarely ever use the 'F' interaction with a ship. I would've never found this

[shell edge]

Changing components and subcomponents in ships is planned. From design notes on engineering: "Sub-Items live inside components and provide a boost to the base effectiveness in a variety of ways. Currently, they are consumable parts that will wear out much quicker than their host items themselves. Without sub-items the base item still functions as normal, but will find a small boost in performance when sub-items are installed. It’s recommended that players carry spares for longer trips as the need to swap these out over extended duration trips is likely. Not carrying spares (or not having the ability to carry spares) isn’t an impediment to base functionality, but should be seen as a continued maintenance loop necessary to provide an improved-upon and highly proficient system." See https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/16193-The-Shipyard-Other-Ship-Items

[north oyster]

Well, Patch "j" is out and scanning for ROC size ore is still a known issue. Maybe something in week or two.

[undone socket]

has roc mining been able to scan mineables been fixed in ptu?

[chrome cloak]

Not yet @undone socket

[north oyster]

That's the first patch note I go check when an update happens. But it seems there are some serious challenges (or where) in the PTU with this last patch (lots of crashing).

[vocal chasm]

A question for those who have traded on the ptu: Will trading be fixed in 3.14?

[obsidian stone]

It seems to be working better at the moment. That could change though.

[vocal chasm]

okay

[placid bridge]

Any idea how to fix this?

[tame elbow]

Exit to menu, change server region

Try another server

[placid bridge]

The usual, got it.

[tame elbow]

Your ships' cargo should be stored

[placid bridge]

Ship is stored, so I'd imagine so.

[manic whale]

There´s nothing to be fixed. Demand for Quantainium in that time is full, you have to wait for its refresh = stand by the console and try it to sell again every few minutes.

[north oyster]

NO, it will be exactly the same implementation as in 3.13. However, there will be special events where the Journal will alert trade needs that will offer excellent opportunity but with added risk.

I will add someone reported being able to do a full run of Titanium from Arial to CBD in the Live, so I tested that in the PTU can could also do that. Fluke? maybe

[crimson mantle]

Refresh rates are not dynamic with player activity, as far as we know. At the end of a patch cycle like this, barely anyone trades in the LIVE server, leaving a lot of shops actually well stocked.

[tame elbow]

Yesterday I saw a freelancer doing a laranite cargo run

Could be mined though. Probably is since the units aren't really even

[crimson mantle]

Laranite+Titanium like this around Hurston is almost certainly coming from the shops on the moon 🙂

[tame elbow]

Not sure how one buys 1469 units of laranite

[crimson mantle]

It can happen if you buyout all the remaining stock.

[tame elbow]

Ah true

[alpine rune]

whats the best mining setup?

the helix is so hard to mine quantanium with

[tame elbow]

lancet is better for quant imo

[alpine rune]

what attatchments?

is it powerful enough to break large asteroids with no attatchments? @tame elbow

[tame elbow]

I usually use some Stampede consumables

I stopped using passive modules as much because if you 30k you lose them

it costs too much to replace them

[devout notch]

will trading be fixed in 3.14?

[oak lake]

Doesn't look like it

[slim atlas]

I just wish they make the cargo transferable sooner, that way I can buy raw ore off miners so they don't have to leave the area and we all make money lol

[tardy flower]

Lancet surge Forel 👍

[alpine rune]

Great, thanks

[hoary dragon]

Anyone wanna go MOLE mining?
just need 1 mil and ill be able to finish a project

[thin escarp]

@alpine rune lancet with surge and brandt

@Glashire#5262 sending out a few mole crews in about 40

if you want in. equal cuts across the ship.

he left the disc lolol

oof

[foggy iron]

I have never found the brandt useful. I only really use the Surge and stampede.

[blissful rain]

What is needed for trading to be fixed?

[subtle forum]

Server meshing and then quanta

At least 1/2 - 2 years out till we have proper hauling

Cig don't wanna work on it till they have implemented the full tech

[sudden wind]

what is 'proper hauling' ?

also, hi shroom

[blissful rain]

The reason why it is broke is because of quanta lol

It's attached to it to make it dynamic

[sudden wind]

since when is that already in the game

[subtle forum]

Ello

Well I'd say an actual dynamic economy with some form of simulation of supply and demand. We need more iterations of the quanta system to actually get to that goal but server meshing is holding everything back, or that's my opinion anyways

[sudden wind]

that's atleast 3-4 years away

[subtle forum]

Yea exactly

Not anytime soon lol

We need server meshing before we get any real major changes like that

Otherwise the game can't handle it

[sudden wind]

i like how boredgamer last video ends with "do you think we will get better AI in the game respond below"

we need other systems first before we can do server meshing cause else you have to redo server meshing

like persistence

[subtle forum]

But you need server meshing to handle the performance of all the new stuff your putting into the game

ANd here we have the dilemma of Star citizen development haha

[sudden wind]

if only the problems were of that nature

that would be a luxury

[lapis tendon]

Did they tank mining or something?

Filled my Freelancer MAX about halfway with refined quantanium, made only 400K

I used to make nearly 900K with unrefined quantanium, with a lot less SCU

[manic whale]

Its 80aUEC/refined unit for a 1/2 year now, when they added refineries

[lapis tendon]

How much was it before?

[manic whale]

Dont know. ...dont need to know, not relevant anymore

[strange cove]

i havent played in a while, has the orion been progressed at all yet? and is it yet possible for other people to cargo the stuff you have refined or mined yet?

[tame elbow]

The Orion is in greybox and has no release date yet

You can mine minerals and refine them

You do this at refinery decks where you can also choose to not refine minerals and sell the raw ore

Once refined you can transfer the metals to a cargo ship and sell them at major cities

Refined metal is worth twice as much as raw ore but takes a while to process

You are the only one who can sell your own cargo

[manic whale]

The last info on infield refinery is Starfarer becoming a refinery hub for Prospector, MOLE and its described as mining ship ejects its sacks->tractor beam of Starfarer picks them up, attaching into its own ports->refine->hauler gets the end product, transporting it to the market. So they either work on major overhaul of the Starfarer or making a new field refinery, "Starfarer" being a code name.

https://youtu.be/pnPBHdHWSM4?t=1964

...this all adds another pieces for the Orion functionality - its tractor beams, on-ship refinery, end product transfer to haulers. ...just in smaller scale, to test the mechanics

[tame elbow]

Starfarer is meant to refine fuel

Maybe it can refine other things

[manic whale]

Yeah, thats why they caught my attention there 😄 . They would need to make a new "sack ports" module, replacing those big tanks + somewhat meaningful transfer the refined goods to the hauler - not just attaching the transport to air lock, go to some console and cargo magically pops out in your ship. It should be physical process . Thats why I see there another small ship for refining, not the Starfarer. ..or maybe use tractor beams of Caterpillar, Taurus for moving whole block of cargo, not box by box. ...really looking for what they come with in the end 🙂

[oak lake]

Some theory that they'll introduce a mineral refining model or module

[knotty onyx]

i am new to this mining stuff how i get consumables on the prospector i dont see it anywhere on erkul

[thin escarp]

go to the refinery at cru l1

dumpers depo at po has some too

@knotty onyx

[knotty onyx]

are they expensive or do they pay for them selfs after a couple runs?

[manic whale]

https://finder.cornerstonebase.space/ShipMiningMods

[hollow hollow]

Is t it supposed to refine and/or be able to make better fuels

[thin escarp]

@knotty onyx not to bad. pays its weight if u go for quant

[tame elbow]

As far as I'm aware there's no varying quality of fuel

[blissful rain]

Ever since it broke lmao

You can even see the price alerts in game now

It's all connected to quanta

Stocks are dynamic

[knotty onyx]

alrighty

[thin escarp]

@knotty onyx I'll be on tonight if ya really wanna learn mining

[knotty onyx]

okay ive learned some mole mining with a friend now i wanna try some prospector since im solo what do you think is a good place for quantum

also what are good consumables to use on the prospector i was thinking 2 brandts and 1 surge

[teal wing]

I like 2 surges and a brandt, accidentally running out of surge is a bigger issue for me

But brandt, optimum and lifeline iirc are good picks alongside surge if quantanium mining is still a bit unfamiliar

[tame elbow]

https://media.giphy.com/media/OhMKxl8Ex34Q4SE7vs/giphy.gif

[oak lake]

I recall there being mention of different resources that could be made into fuel

[strange cove]

well if the mining doesn't get better i hope they make scrapping better, following people doing bounties and scrapping ships seems like fun, since you cant mine and have some one else deliver, you have to have 2 ships to do both efficiently

i'm sure several people feel this way, but i wish they had a large team for how much ive been told they make

[tame elbow]

everything will get better over time

because everything is connected

[oak lake]

Supposedly new office means more employees yeah?

[tame elbow]

yes

they've added about 120 people since last year

[strange cove]

the biggest issue with a large team would be a lot of bugs which is always an issue with this game, but its an ambitious project to be a space game with a wide spectrum of features as opposed to 1-4 different types of things

so its understanable

the orion is the thing ive been waiting for most to get back into it though, but i imagine mining would get an overhaul completely upon its release

[oak lake]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

[opal yoke]

Cargo aside, would those that have a C2 consider it a worthwhile upgrade over the Cat?

aka, not counting current brokenness, is it worth it?

[hollow hollow]

Yes

[oak lake]

I personally much prefer my cat to my c2 atm
Cat has a much more likable interior, and more useful weapons
The C2 massive empty space is a bit of a turn off for me

[opal yoke]

When do you ever use the weapons on a cat though?

[oak lake]

For now they're not especially important, but I think they do make for some enjoyable multicrew gameplay

[hollow hollow]

You mean how you can store more stuff than a cat?

[oak lake]

The 120 extra SCU makes little difference to me, with modularity coming I'd much rather have that than the big empty tube. The non-storage parts of the cat have more character to them, where most of the C2's interior design is unappealing to me, the cargo hold feels bland

[manic whale]

Those 2 ships are completely different, not just 564 vs. 696

[hollow hollow]

True

Also with modularity won’t you be able to bomb with the c2

Seems more adaptable for military stuff

[slim atlas]

when they make modules for the cat possible it will most likely get a little more popular

I'd love to have reduced cargo space but additional firepower

[oak lake]

cat medbay and shop i think would be coolest

[slim atlas]

not sure what do do with it but bought a domain name thats a magazine in game, thought about setting up like a website for it since its all about cargo stuff lol

[oak lake]

thats a great idea

whats it called?

[slim atlas]

saw them all over the place but longhaulquarterly.com lol

bit of a mouthfull lol

[oak lake]

thats lit

[slim atlas]

researching a bunch of old old trucker magazines though lol didnt realize they was a thing

[oak lake]

should totally prop up a site

[slim atlas]

yeah putting together a template first, really hope though I dont get a CND for it though lol

dont plan on making money off it

[oak lake]

I don't think you would

can always rebrand tho heh

[strange cove]

which cargo ship got swooty

[north oyster]

I like both and will have both, but the C2 performance is way above that of the CAT. Now the CAT did pick up a second shield with the new patch 3.14 so she will be tougher for sure. But overall, I prefer the C2.

[acoustic rivet]

look cooler too

[crimson mantle]

The C2 still has vastly superior acceleration, forward and back, compared to the Caterpillar. At least according to the leaks.

[manic whale]

Aside of cargo amount, were speaking about modularity,tractor beams, detachable smaller ship vs. great atmosphere flight capability, military frame, transport of big vehicles = 2 different ships for different tasks. ...but again, If you need just cargo as big as possible, then C2

[opal yoke]

I know the C2 has more Cargo and is more mobile in atmosphere, can transport vehicles.
My Question is more related to, already owning a Caterpillar thanks to my Railen, would it be considered worth it spending the 5mil once 3.14 hits to get a C2 as an upgrade, or is that money better spent on something else?

Of course Cat and C2 are both great ships in their own way

[hollow sedge]

have a question, if i were collect cargo from the refinery into my freelancer max and then head over to area 18 and claim it, will all my cargo be gone? and must my ship be taken out inside the hangar for me to sell it at the trading place or i could just sell my cargo even if its stored

[opal yoke]

Claiming insuring WILL delete Cargo

You can't cheat the system, if you want to sell refined Ore you will have to risk transporting it

You can however sell with your ship stored in Area18

Though if you don't feel safe transporting large Cargo you can always ask people to escort you

[hollow sedge]

ohh okay, thanks for the help, really appreciate it!

[subtle forum]

Hey how long does it take for the Area 18 TDD store to reset so I can sell

[desert loom]

Is there a way to reload mining modules? I can't seem to always make sure I have max charges/ammo

[foggy iron]

While in mining mode, somewhere you should see what modules are loaded and how many charges each has. If one is low then just store the ship and fit new modules.

[desert loom]

I unequipped and then re-equipped my modules but one of them only had 1 charge instead of 5 when I started mining

[slim atlas]

https://sc-trade.tools/ I use this to get a guess but from what I've been told updates when the server refreshes every 10-15 minutes

[opal yoke]

Consider them like magazines, unequipinng wont work, you just have to land/store/reequip a new one. They are a consumable

[opal yoke]

TDD increases its value every minute, depending on what you want to sell you might need to wait 4-5 but youll always be able to sell within a few minutes, unless you are selling something crazy

Also is there a way to have just your characters hair showing?
I wanted to equip in a uniform for flying my cat but I always wear that stupid flightcap.

[foggy iron]

You will notice I said to fit a new module, not to put the old nearly empty one back on.

[desert loom]

How do I tell which module is empty? When I unequip a module it adds to the stack of modules I currently have of that type

e.g., I have 20 stampedes, unequip a stampede that has 1 charge and then it shows me having 21 stampedes

[pliant fjord]

That website told me to sell SLAM at CRLU-5, which no longer has a NQA terminal as of 3.9

So that website is somewhat outdated

[slim atlas]

yeah unfortunately most will be

but also you may have to find the hidden terminal

[pliant fjord]

iirc that hidden terminal was removeds

Nvm

it is back

i now need to save that image for those directions

[north oyster]

Someone pointed out that if you use the F key in the cockpit, it will show remaining count of each consumables

[pliant fjord]

although I heard trading was fucked after Invictus

[north oyster]

Journal doesn't work atm and trading is fubar as a whole

[pliant fjord]

ah lol

[alpine rune]

Hey is a mole worth it if u have people to mine with?

Is mining easier with multiple people?

[willow jackal]

So I got Quantanium in my cargo, refined... Trying to sell at Area 18, but I can't ?

Anyone know why?

[zenith iris]

What profit would I be able to make doing trade routes with a Freelancer MAX?

[manic whale]

The market demand is full. You need to wait = stand by the console and check it every 2-3mins. Or try it later

[willow jackal]

alright thanks

[hollow sedge]

what type of ore should i mine in a roc?

[coarse cape]

Hadanite @hollow sedge

[hollow sedge]

@coarse capethanks 🙂

[coarse cape]

Np

[subtle forum]

its on cooldown should work after 10-20mins or so

[desert loom]

About how much can you sell per refresh?

[crimson mantle]

Trading is "back to business as usual", which means at the end of the patch cycle like now you have a small chance of actually getting a hold fo some higher value commodities. Still, nothing to write home about.

[crimson mantle]

It depends on the location and commodity, it varies widely.
All the data-mined info is at https://sc-trade.tools/commodities

[crimson mantle]

You could be looking at at most 21k per trip, in the best conditions: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Freelancer%2520MAX%2522,%2522investment%2522:300000,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:6000,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%255D%257D

[thin escarp]

@willow jackal server hop or wait 15 minutes

@alpine rune with a 4 man team i average 600k+ a run every 25 mins in my mole.

@desert loom i usually sell my quant by the cat full. anywhere from 750k-1.2 mil a server tick

[sour lotus]

I rented a stock Prospector, can it not mine quantanium?

[thin juniper]

it can, it's just harder. You can reduce how hard is with mining heads and addons.

search youtube for 3.13 mining guide by space tomato.

[wispy thicket]

any up to date tools for trading drugs?

[thin escarp]

@sour lotus nah you cant break it with a rented prospector.

that stock laser is trash and you cant switch it ut

out.

i'd try roc mining until you have enough to buy a prospector

[coarse cape]

plus its less of a loss with roc mining if you crash

[manic whale]

My best so far

[sour lotus]

Have the money to buy one and ttick it out, but I was going to test it it out to see if I wanted to invest the money in mining. I have learned tho that renting ships is a trash idea if you can't change components.

[hollow sedge]

i'm not finding any hadanite on arial :c

oh finally found some 😄

[desert loom]

Any opinions on best spots to mine for 3.13?

any notable differences in planet vs. belt ?

[north oyster]

Sadly the rental Prospector (as you have discovered) isn't good for anything but learning the basics of mining. The ROC/Cutty/Pembroke Armor combo is about 55k (est) and can earn about 220K per trip (normally little less to avoid 30k visits).

The Prospector is worth the purchase because it is a developed game loop with good upside earnings also. The rental is total trash though for some odd reason. CIG should offer an "upgrade" rental option.

[desert loom]

it would be nice if there were ways to find ores generally more suitable for youo

[north oyster]

It depends on what you are looking for.

[desert loom]

like zones with bigger ores for moles

I'm looking for quantanium

[north oyster]

"convenient" isn't going to be part of the game play loop, LOL. But Quan in the belt is plenty. I like dropping out of QT in Arron's Halo between CRU-L1 and ARC-L3. It's approx 11.5m KM leaving CRU and heading towards ARC.

The asteroids will be smaller rocks. Lyria has been popular

For moon mining.

[desert loom]

moon mining has larger rocks?

[north oyster]

Yes, up to 8K

atm all asteroids are pretty uniform

[desert loom]

I used to find moon mining easier to find rock clusters because you can see them from a distance

[sour lotus]

I'm all about efficiency and maximum return on investment. I can run VHRTs and ERTs and make more money than any ROC miner. I wanted to get into quantanium, so my goal is actually a MOLE, which I almost have the money. Renting the Prospector was to test some loadouts, but now I know renting ships is a garbage idea if you intend to swap parts.

[desert loom]

Mole is kinda slow solo

there isn't a mining mode for the pilot

[north oyster]

I take a completely different approach because, to me, it is about fun and earning good coin while having that fun. I'm a rather "wealthy monopoly money baron" in the game because of mining.

[sour lotus]

I know, but I've seen someone solo on a MOLE make 500k in 30 minutes, so it can be done.

Plus I was getting another MOLE for our ORG.

[sour lotus]

I get that. But you won't ever see me mining with a ROC, and to me the best purchase of a mining vessel would be the MOLE, even if you're going to do it solo.

[north oyster]

ROC mining using the MAX as transport is excellent, fast and I've click at 200k per trip. The shortest was 220k in two stops but that doesn't always happen.

[sour lotus]

Hell, bounties right now gives Quant mining a run for it's money.

[north oyster]

True, but that won't always be like that

All of it, everything, will change

[sour lotus]

No dispute there. Cargo used to be the meta 🤣

[desert loom]

I remember 3.09 was gambling against the 30k

[north oyster]

Yea, my C2 is gathering dust atm

I see a time when Trade will be tied into reputation and quest so that the player will not be the "owner" of the cargo unless he chooses to

[sour lotus]

I'm the type of player that is 100% about either grinding for maximum return on investmentand streamlined gameplay with no wasted time, or PVP. Either or lol

[north oyster]

That's when owning a Hull C will make sense. Right now, owning anything associated with Trade makes zero sense.

[north oyster]

I can understand that, but once I got above a certain amount of "cash in hand" I sort of changed gears

[manic whale]

I´m not a money baron, but just happy to be not in need of grind (mining or bounties) anymore. It was totally killing the fun.

[north oyster]

100% concur

[desert loom]

what loadout do you use on a mole?

lancet 2...

surge stampede fltr-xl?

[sour lotus]

eBay makes life much easier!

[sour lotus]

Lancet2 all Brandts on every single arm

Solo that is

[desert loom]

hmm, whats max rock you can crack with a lancet 2?

[north oyster]

"baron" might be stretching it because I've given away a bunch and pretty much bought every ship in game, so I'm just waiting for the "Great Reset" to happen to start all over, LOL

[desert loom]

all brandt seems a bit much

I would want 1 fltr-xl

[sour lotus]

I'm experimenting. I'm a PVP player just getting into mining Quant

[desert loom]

I'm gonna guess stampede, brandt, fltr-xl might be a good combo

i just dont know if the lancet2 struggles with big rocks

[manic whale]

I´ve grinded my Reclaimer from zero in like a week on bounties. Terrible. Now I´m back in that price range again, but at a completely sloooower pace, not being so "overdosed" with SC.

[north oyster]

I spent a year grinding and saving. Once I got over a specific "threshold" I didn't worry if I didn't keep the earning a 500K to 1M aUEC per day pace.

But Trade and Mining is still fun (well, "trade" of old).

I'm going to CCU my Cutlass Black to the Freelancer MAX because I love using it with the ROC. That is such a fun game loop with great earnings. My fleet is geared towards best earnings from "ZERO" as soon as possible.

[manic whale]

I´m set with Prospector+Taurus for the start.

[chrome mural]

Im grinding for a mole with a aurora

Its painfull

But gonna hella worth it

And yea i have a friend to use it with

[north oyster]

that rocks, I went a little overboard but, except for the Corsair, everything serves trade and mining.

[manic whale]

That is my best SC experience so far, mining with another 2 players in MOLE. Hell, even those sometimes long flights before finding something of value were not boring. Just a step under was mining with 2*ROC+transport pilot.

[chrome mural]

Yea the few times i went mining too were realy good times

Even when we transported the nova tank in the jump was epic with 3 other people

Tank was glitching so hard we managed to get the jump to crash

[rotund breach]

Have you guys been on PTU yet?

[north oyster]

yes

[chrome mural]

Nope

[rotund breach]

Finding rocks is so much easier.

[north oyster]

but the ROC mining scanning is broken atm

[chrome mural]

Idk how the guy had the nova tank tbh

In the PU

[manic whale]

Yeah, I´m seeing myself as an industry worker, fight support (gas, ammo, medic..) and occasional explorer, If someone joins, so the choice of ships is easy.

[chrome mural]

I also like to support

[rotund breach]

I'll hire you to run supplies to my Kraken in Pyro :)

[chrome mural]

Its a nice feeling tk help other

[rotund breach]

One day.

[manic whale]

Are there still unscannable asteroids?

[rotund breach]

I haven't encountered any unscannables in PTU yet but I wouldn't be surprised if they're there.

[chrome mural]

Prob

[north oyster]

that will always be with us if you ask me, LOL, but I did have a few in the belt that wouldn't scan

[rotund breach]

It's just nice that you don't have to approach to like 1k to scan the content of the rocks now.

You can find and assess them from way further out now.

[chrome mural]

Jesus 1k

How much does the rock give per run and how long is a run roughly

[rotund breach]

For what? Mole mining?

[chrome mural]

Roc

Sry

[rotund breach]

Ah, I haven't tried that in 3.14 yet.

[chrome mural]

In current version

[rotund breach]

I just whipped out the prospector to test the new scanning.

OOooh

[north oyster]

"Unable to scan for FPS or ROC-sized mining deposits until very close"

[rotund breach]

If you only take hadanite on board, 200k easy.

[north oyster]

Patch notes

[rotund breach]

oof

Sad ROC hours.

[manic whale]

I was trying the zooming method of "scanning" for asteroid clusters for some time in LIVE. As it was working good, some of them were those unscannable and that was ruining it for me.

[chrome mural]

Uhm

I shall still wait for the mole then

[north oyster]

It depends upon the server, I've had times of about 70% failure then times of when less than 10%

[rotund breach]

Mole is a good boi.

[chrome mural]

Mole is great

Even if u find small deposite of quant its still like 400k 500k

[rotund breach]

The overhead running to the laser gives when running it solo is a valid complaint, but honestly not that bad with a little practice.

[chrome mural]

In the future star citizen will be hard as hell to play alone

[north oyster]

I don't think so

[chrome mural]

As all the big ships and most usefull ones are multicrew

Wont be impossible

Just hard

[rotund breach]

Prospector is a champ. 90% of the time I'm flying single seaters.

Sure, multicrew ships have more capabilities, but they're also inconvenient.

[chrome mural]

Why so?

[rotund breach]

The fun/seat ratio isn't really there yet and you can do most content in a single seater ship whether it's industrial or combat.

[chrome mural]

I mean having a fully crewed hammerheads sounds epic af

[rotund breach]

So the inconvenience in running multicrew is that the benefit of a 4 crew ship doesn't really outweigh the fact that there isn't enough to do on a 4 crew ship to keep 4 people occupied.

In the future when there's engineering stuff to do, or more things that the pilot CAN'T do, then multicrew ships will be king in gameplay.

IMO at least.

[chrome mural]

In the future tho ur gonna have people do sum engineering on the ship in all

Oh

Yea

Lol

[rotund breach]

Missile operator mode is a huge step in the right direction for multi-crew, but that's combat and thus off topic.

[chrome mural]

Imagine asking ur engineers in combat situation to like redirect more power to the shields

[manic whale]

Thats why its a good idea to take some boxes on your trip and as a captain make your crew move it around the ship the whole time 😄

[chrome mural]

XD

[rotund breach]

Damage models that result in non-catastrophic damage to ships will be wild.

[manic whale]

...the more ladders, the better. Lock the lifts 😄

[chrome mural]

Ask them to lick the floor clean

[rotund breach]

Whoopsie, scraped the orion's engine off on an asteroid. Get down there engineer.

[chrome mural]

Yea

I wonder if in the future the crew will be able to make minor repairs on board

[rotund breach]

I believe that's the goal. To an extent.

[chrome mural]

Like the elevator is broken cuz hydrolic leaking , and lime u patch up the hole

[rotund breach]

You know how there are physical components in compartments on most ships?

[chrome mural]

Englishnt

Off

Oof*

Yea

[manic whale]

#industrial-professions 🙂

[rotund breach]

I just want to be able to transfer cargo from ship to ship. My one goal in this game is to sit right outside of the fattest mining spot in a remote spot and be a service station for moles and prospectors.

Buy ore so you guys don't have to run it back to civilized space and refuel.

[chrome mural]

I kinda are able to transfer

U eject ur ore

To let another pick it up

[rotund breach]

I mean, true, but I'm talking about landing on the Kraken and unloading into the hold.

[chrome mural]

Oh

[rotund breach]

So say you're a 45 minute quantum trip into Pyro and you have a load of ore you don't want to bring somewhere to sell.

You come find me, sell me your ore for some percentage less than its worth in Stanton, and go back for more after refueling.

[chrome mural]

I dont recommend filling a ship with a full load of quant just yet tho

[rotund breach]

No, of course not, and I wouldn't buy quantanium as a Kraken.

[chrome mural]

Oh

[rotund breach]

No way to refine it.

I'm talking future goals, y'know.

[chrome mural]

Yea

[rotund breach]

When inventory is persistent enough to survive a crash or 30k.

[chrome mural]

A trading ship in sorts

[rotund breach]

That's exactly what the Kraken privateer is.

[chrome mural]

Oh

[rotund breach]

I'm bopping around in the middle of nowhere, places that smaller ships will not be able to access without a refuel point.

I make it economical and convenient to operate there, at a profit.

[chrome mural]

True

Its funny cuz o realy like mining so when the orion is out thats my only goal

Even if i have to take down a org for it

Well with help

Im not that good in fights

Cant wait for orion to come out

[rotund breach]

If you're interested in a mole, I have this mining ledger format that I use to track how much I need to pay out to various people I hired after I refine.

Looks like this. Basically you enter in how much of each mineral you put into the refinery along with the percentage of the haul you want to give up to the people who were helping you mine.

When I hire people to mine I pay them as soon as the ore goes into the refinery, so I use this chart to estimate how much they need to be paid.

[chrome mural]

Nice

Im mostly gonna do runs with my friends so we are gonna split 50-50 minus the fuel

[slim atlas]

I am hoping by then the cat will have some refinery modules

[rotund breach]

For sure.

I'd also just be happy with some sort of storage medium that would allow me to stabilize volatile cargo.

[manic whale]

Starfarer rework/module is coming for this or some refinery ship, as said here https://youtu.be/pnPBHdHWSM4?t=1964

[slim atlas]

Oh I know its coming but the cat is suppose to have all kinds of modules and be like a swiss army knife of ships lol I just want my purchase to be useful for more than cargo

[manic whale]

yeah, Cat will mine,refine,sell,cure and repair in one ship

[knotty onyx]

what do yall think the best place is to go mining for quant in a prospector

[manic whale]

#industrial-professions message I´m OK with this

[frozen lotus]

Yeah that ring is pretty good

[hollow sedge]

should i get the mole or the prospector if im going to be mining moslty solo ( price dont matter)

[teal wing]

If price doesn't matter, buy both

[hollow sedge]

but which one tho, i have 5mil

[manic whale]

If you take MOLE and not like it, you would have nothing 🙂 ..so..

[north oyster]

I'd say Prospector. A Mole is a little more unwielding to handle solo. I have multiple prospectors (long story) and also a Mole. I rarely, if ever, use the MOLE

Also you'll earn enough to buy the MOLE later if you want it

[hollow sedge]

@north oyster how much do you make per run?

[north oyster]

that's sort of like asking what size fish I catch when I go fishing

[hollow sedge]

on average tho

[north oyster]

I don't focus 100% on Quan mining, I go for most anything above Agricium. Laranite and Bexilite also. So I would say that (Refined) eash run is from 90K to 260K depending upon what I find.

[alpine rune]

i flew around for an hour trying to find quant

[compact plover]

How many fluorine can i buy with 576SCu

nvmind just figured it out

Whats the most profitiable cargo run I can do with the caterpillar?

And I mean 1 trip - so going somewhere to get it then taking it somewhere to sell it

Assume unlimited money

[oak lake]

use a site like sc-trade.tools or uexcorp.space to find that

[compact plover]

The problem with those sites is that it doesnt take into account the max inventory of the locations

[oak lake]

those sites know as good as any of us do

[north oyster]

Where?

[oak lake]

the inventory is changing constantly

[alpine rune]

hur l3

[alpine rune]

keep having this issue where i find a rock and cannot scan it

like nothing pop up to scan the contents of the asteroid

[north oyster]

That's often the server. I've had times when is have about 70% failure rate. Then times of only about 10%.

I wonder if the new dsync fixes will also help with that

[dawn linden]

regarding scanning... i've noticed you can see when the rock changes from a "static" asset to a "mine-able" asset, there's a flicker in the rock.

i can only scan the rock after the flicker has occurred and I've noticed the flicker often won't happen if i'm trying to scan the rock in mining mode

so what i typically do is approach the rock in mining mode but don't point the scanner directly at the rock while i'm waiting for the flicker

after the flicker i can point/scan the rock and begin mining.

[delicate phoenix]

So is commodity hauling still a very high risk activity?

In 3.10 or somethingI managed to make quite a bit of credits hauling stuff around, but then they reduced the amount of resources available and that wasn't really a good way to make cash anymore. Is that still the case of have they balanced stuff out a little?

[cosmic idol]

were you ever able to get your TDD kiosk to work? I'm having the same problem and haven't found ANY reports of this bug on the Issue Council.

[tame elbow]

There's still a problem with low supply and low demand

From what I've seen people struggle to make much money at all off of trading cargo

Even in 3.13

[scenic vault]

I went about all the moons around Hurston to pick up all the good stuffs to sell in the buisness district, spend like, 2 hours gathering everything and when I sold I only made about 5k out of the entire thing. This was in 3.12

[lost parrot]

i was doing cargo and i died with all 3 boxes in my ship because they glitched me. How do i get my boxes back? (i just got the game)

[sudden wind]

sorry you can't untill the persistence update comes out everything is lost when u die / log out

[coarse cape]

you can just reclaim your ship and accept another box mission for the time being until persistence hits like Shroom said

[sage spire]

So is mining the only real consistent way to make lots of cash right now?

[subtle forum]

Had to acc reset, lost all the money. I tried everything possible
There are a couple of reports on the council though.

[sage spire]

Are there any good mining guides?

[north oyster]

yes Mining and then there is Bounty Hunting which is probably the most popular in-game earnings atm

[sage spire]

Where can i go to rent a roc?

@north oyster

[north oyster]

Any of the Refinery stations, L1

Very cheap, do you have a ship to carry it?

CRU-L1, HUR-L1, HUR-L2 (the only L2), etc

[sage spire]

yeah, ive got a freelancer i can put it into the back of.

[north oyster]

Also, you will need the Pembroke armor if you're going to the Hurston moons of Aberdeen and Arial. Those are the best for Hadanite

you can also buy that armor at the Refinery store

There are two terminals at the refinery store, one for ships and the other for products.

[sage spire]

Thanks for the info, its much appreciated:)

[teal wing]

Does Orison have a TDD for selling mining goods at?

[north oyster]

No, as far as I know, the Refinery Stations are the only places to sell raw mining goods. If you talking about selling refined goods, I would highly encourage you to pick a TDD that is easier to get in and out of. I've not been to Orison yet because of performance and massive atmosphere to exit.

This is version 1 of Orison, other places, stores, and features are still pending.

[teal wing]

Okay thanks, was just thinking about whether the run from CRU-L1 to Orison would be more time-efficient than flying across to Hurston, I guess I'll just have to wait until it goes live and try it out ^^

[rotund breach]

If you put a good drive on your ship, the run from CRU-L1 to Hurston will be shorter than the time in and out of Orison's atmosphere.

[north oyster]

I'd recommend testing your run, but leaving Orison is about a 140Km trip up

[rotund breach]

Also worth asking, are you climbing out of Orison properly? It doesn't matter on most planets, but 45 degree climb while holding vertical ascend (spacebar or whatever your vert is on your sticks) will get you ascending slightly faster.

[north oyster]

yeah, I heard about that. Not sure of the time savings between the two options

[rotund breach]

I haven't timed it but you definitely ascend faster.

Altimeter ticks up visibly faster.

Maybe I'll record a video about it tonight and report findings. Been offline for the past couple of days to upgrade my computer.

[frozen lotus]

TRICHORDING

[rotund breach]

Yes! Exactly. I didn't know there was a word for it.

Call me an idiot, aren't you only moving on 2 axes?

What's the third axis?

[frozen lotus]

It’s using more than one thruster to gain velocity

[haughty anvil]

is it worth refining with the prospector?

[rotund breach]

It's almost always worth refining the high end minerals

I usually mine for a few days and then load up a cargo ship to haul over to lorville

[haughty anvil]

i got a hold full of Bexalite

thing I've heard about that is that if I load up my Cutless with refined stuff and head to sell place, one server disconnect can lose it all

[tame elbow]

This is true

Refined metals sell for double they do raw

It's up to you if it's worth it to haul it.

[sage spire]

where can i got to buy a lancet mining module?

[obsidian stone]

Any station with a refinery.

[sage spire]

Thanks

[obsidian stone]

Maybe Loreville. Not certain on that.

[foggy iron]

The altimeter reads 140-160 when QT becomes possible but don't forget that Orison is already at about 80.

[north oyster]

The OM's above MT are also at 140km from surface, I've use them a number of times to drop to the planet surface (about 7 minutes). I'm just wondering how they determine Zero on a gas planet.

[cosmic idol]

That's rough. I wound up taking a different ship and it didn't happen to me anymore after that for some reason. I'm not sure if it was a bug with my ship or what. Could you share a link to some of the trouble reports so I can add to it?

[sage spire]

If i was to buy say maybe diamonds, larinite gold etc... would i be able to refine it and sell it on for more or is that not possible?

[thin escarp]

@sage spire refining makes resources worth like 2 times the raw price.

[coarse cape]

2 times

[thin escarp]

yeah i fat fingered. on my phone lol

[coarse cape]

oh lol

[shell edge]

All commodities you buy from terminals are currently refined already. Only way to get your hand on unrefined material is to mine them in a mining ship. There is currently no way to sell unrefined material to other players , or purchase unrefined material from other players (unless you scan asteroids or rocks, and sell the location to someone, although that gameplay-loop is currently not implemented, so you have to either sit on the location and let the buyer quantum to you, or you have to place a box from a box mission at the location, and share the mission with the buyer, for them to get the location of the box. If the server crashes, the locations are lost)

[foggy iron]

BTW, Diamonds are not worth a lot and gold is worth even less. For example, refined bexalite sells for 40, taranite/borase 32, Laranite 31, Agricium 27.5. Refined diamonds only fetch 7.36 and gold fetches 6.45.

[chrome mural]

Dam

[haughty anvil]

keep getting this at area 18 trade terminal

https://i.redd.it/7uk0gsqqxtv41.png

[chrome mural]

Go to place?

[frozen lotus]

Wait 5 minutes and try again.

[haughty anvil]

nope whatever terminal

doesn't work

[tame elbow]

Are you buying something or selling something?

[haughty anvil]

selling

[rotund breach]

Have you tried selling a smaller chunk?

It could be a stock issue.

Sometimes you literally just have to sit at the terminal and repeatedly try to sell until the stock refreshes and the system will buy the commodity again.

[tame elbow]

If your ship is stored at the station then you can try changing to a different server region

[haughty anvil]

tried that

[tame elbow]

My quantainium wouldn't sell so I changed server regions and it did

Damn. Sorry then, mate. Just seems broken.

Not sure what other steps to try. You could ask in #helpdesk

Maybe someone else would know

[haughty anvil]

ok so now i go get the ship, it loading ramp is stuck ajar and can't get into it

also no cargo showing in the hold

[oak lake]

Sometimes the cargo itself wont appear visibly even when it should

[haughty anvil]

ok but if the cutlass ramp is stuck there's no way onto the ship

[oak lake]

if you cant open the docking doors perhaps

ive had success trying to force the door closed with my players head

jumping under it

[haughty anvil]

every error this game has it's throwing at me

[hollow sedge]

oh theres more

soo much more

consider yourself lucky

[manic whale]

I´m getting this error when I lose the ship with cargo due to game crash only. Are you sure you docked properly = is there a "Retrieve" and not "Claim" in the Fleet Manager console?

[haughty anvil]

that is not my issue

if i claim the ship from area 18 to the space station above I will lose all it's cargo?

[manic whale]

yes, you are getting new ship with claiming, although with your components setup

[haughty anvil]

so this ship at area is a good as lost

[manic whale]

I dont know. If you cant get in, I would just let the cargo go 😦 and claim a new one

[rotund breach]

You might be able to find one of the cargo dollies in the station to jump into the side door.

[haughty anvil]

can you move those?

[rotund breach]

You can move a lot of things. You may also be able to create boxes out of things in your inventory and stack them on the floor to make a staircase.

[haughty anvil]

can anyone else confirm that the trade terminals at area18 don't work?

[subtle cradle]

A bit late, but you can actually climb up the sides with the sliding doors on a cutlass. It often just take a couple of tries

[haughty anvil]

that just jumping at the dooes?

[subtle cradle]

Yes

Last time I just stood underneath the entrance with the door open and hit space and the character did a climb animation and I got in

[haughty anvil]

just don't have a high enough jump

the thing that's really annoying is the trade terminals don't work

i could just sell the cargo and claim the ship from the station

[subtle cradle]

It should do a climb animation. You must try from different angles. It's not working very smoothly

[haughty anvil]

so my first instinct was correct afterall, don't refine

i could have sold much more just doing ore rather spending 4+ hrs plus wasting my precious play time on this bs

actually i need to lose the duplicates

only way i guess is to reset the account which loses everything

[regal pier]

Aren't there two trading console locations in Area18?

And often when a console doesn't work, it's just taking a ridiculous time for the server to send back the requested data. Usually, if 30s go by without a UI loading, I can go somewhere else nearby for a bit, and then come back and see that the data loads much more readily later.

[haughty anvil]

the cargo was bugged

just reclaimed and cleared it off, also fixed the door

did have 2nd order in the refinery that one sold fine at Lorville for 70k so not a total loss

[regal pier]

Really hope the static server meshing resolves the majority of these issues.

[inland jewel]

Hey guys is anyone out there can answer a few questions

[civic kite]

so i'm pretty new to roc mining

is this amount of hadanite clumped together

usual?

i feel like i usually see like at most 3 together

[chrome cloak]

What can we help you with @inland jewel

[inland jewel]

What is the best mining Lazer upgrade for the ROC. or just the best upgrades in general

[chrome cloak]

I don't think you can upgrade the ROC laser

[inland jewel]

So the ROC and the Cutty Black are the best starting mining setup?

[chrome cloak]

Yeah it's a winning combo

I prefer a constellation, just for the reason that it's easier to drive on and off of, you can drive straight through

instead of backing in

but for starters, the Cutlass Black is perfect

[inland jewel]

Well I have a ROC but have to rent the cutty as I'm just starting out any other profitable options to get into mining? I've only been at the game for about a week now and today was my first day to try mining

[chrome cloak]

Yeah renting a Cutlass Black is fine

Are you playing now?

I have a Constellation I could drive you around in dropping you off at mining spots

[inland jewel]

I'm off for the night will be on tomorrow. @chrome cloak

[chrome cloak]

Sounds good, just @ me and i I'm around I'll jump on

[foggy iron]

The Nomad is probably the cheapest way to transport a ROC. Another alternative whe you start thinking about buying a cutty is the cutlass red. It is trickier getting the ROC loaded until you learn the knack but its scanner detects ore from much further away and if you die you just reappear on the ship (also handy when the ramp fails 😉) Moving up, both the MSR and Freelancer Max will carry two ROCs plus the MSRs scanner is nearly as good as the Cutty Reds.

[pallid temple]

The Cutlass Red is a nice option, but 3.15 will remove the placeholder respawn feature from that ship

[brisk valve]

Anyone got the hercules and wanna play, maybe do some cargo missions?

[blissful oxide]

cargo mission with an hercule ? That seems overkill :/

[brisk valve]

But, its a hercule

[dark harbor]

I agree with Roblex the Nomad is a good ship to load your roc on and its cheaper to buy in game than the Cutty Black

[north oyster]

I found a 14 ore cluster yesterday. But it's usually 3 to 6 or so

As for me, of all the ships I've tried, I have found that the Freelancer MAX makes the best transport for the ROC. Super easy roll on and roll off, great fuel performance, easy to land in every terrain

[desert loom]

How does ROC compare with prospector for profitability?

[chrome mural]

Eh good question

[foggy stone]

factor in fuel costs, refining costs, travel time and scanning time, bug rate of a ROC or cutty, and basically, I don't know. I feel like, subjectively, I earn faster with the prospector, but I also get frustrated finding rocks that aren't crap in the Aaron belt. so how relaxed am I, do I care that I will give up finding quant and just grab any yellow ore out of frustration? Overall I think the consensus is that the ROC is a great gateway path to mining.

[lofty sluice]

Agree with @foggy stone . ROC is a great way to start, guaranteed minerals (unless ya blow up the rock!) meaning no inert materials in cargo, only one fracture needed per node, generally easier optimal fracture window, and instant selling for full profit. Great stepping stone for the world of Quant!

[blissful oxide]

At start level Roc is better
At "expert level" prospector/mole is better

prospector/mole require deeper info to be more profitable
Roc is the easy way I'd say

[north oyster]

ROC mining earns cash in hand the fastest. The Prospector/MOLE lets you stack jobs, so you can make one big payoff (pending 30k and also the market buying in large quantities). Some who mine Quantainium (and other ores) spend time waiting at the TDD/CBD for the server to refresh so they can sell what they have.
The ROC let's you earn cash straight up with no waiting or wishing the server would hurry up and buy your refined ore.
Both are great and I bounce between the two. I've made 220k with the ROC on two stops in about 15 minutes (VERY RARE) but at the same time I've dropped out of QT travel right into a Quan asteroid field of happiness. So, it really is about what fate has in store and also what you enjoy.

[north oyster]

excellent summary

[foggy iron]

I usually made about 70K per trip with my ROC. I could have made more but I usually returned to sell my ore as soon as I had around 20-25 in case there was a 30K and I lost what I had collected. When I got a prospector I made about the same amount in my first few trips and was wondering if it was worth the hassle of getting it refined then selling it at a city when a ROC was so much simpler but I soon got better at using the prospector and usually make about 160-170 per trip and the trips are usually quicker as it is easier to find Quant on asteroids than to find Laranite on planets.

Cons Of Prospector
Need to refine the ore to get best profits and for the best yield that can take 24-36 hours. That part does not bother me too much as I am in no hurry
Need to take the refined ore to a city to sell it. That part does bother me as I hate landing on planets and travelling into city centres.

Cons Of ROC
Need to go collect the ROC from an outpost and load it which opens you up to hijackers or they may follow you out and pirate you when you have ore aboard.
Takes longer to find good ore than it does in a Prospector then you have to land and unload the ROC each time which can be a real pain if the best you can find is in a tricky location.
Selling at an outpost again puts you at risk of someone getting into the ship or otherwise being an arse.

Personally I don't really use my ROC any more. I do a couple of trips to get quant then while they are being processed I take the previous days refined quant and pick up about 350k of profit.

[north oyster]

actually the Cons for you point out don't exist for me normally. With the MAX, rolling on and off is super simple. Also, I never have pirate issues because I drop from OM to the moon and I don't use outpost as QT travel points. I normally just sell at the Admin office of a L1 or L2. Allows me to take a quick break and repair the ship (if needed). Both for the ROC and Prospector, it is a random draw on what you find. Just the other day I found 14 hadanite rocks all in one pile. Too bad the ROC died just before I could start mining. I need to remember that it wears out too fast sometimes.

Selling off near 50% load in the ROC is a good habit for now, that is for sure. Aaron's Halo is my favorite spot for prospecting in the Prospector. Straight shot, pretty quick and fast turn around. I do miss Levski and dropping into the belt from there, but running out of CRU-L1 to ARC-L3 is a good run also.

[foggy iron]

I regularly, eg about 30% of trips, try the halo on the basis that it is less predictable and there should be less chance of someone else mining it first but my best runs still tend to come from CRU-L1 - Hur-L3. I wish they did not as that run is so obvious to pirates.
I don't have 'trouble' loading and unloading my MSR either but it is still an extra step that you don't do with a prospector plus if the ground is uneven then both ships will have to keep re-adjusting until they find a spot where the ramp sits properly.
As for never going to outposts, how do you get a ROC onto your ship without going to an outpost? I don't find city vehicle spawns very practical. Sure, once it is loaded you can keep it there but it has to be reloaded after crashes. Yes you can sell the ore elsewhere but the outpost is always closer and the risks of hijacking are not as bad as when loading the ROC.

[north oyster]

Not going to outpost was just for selling the gems, of course to claim the ROC we do have to visit outpost. The last time i mined on a planet was when Microtech was 100% hadanite. Miss those days

[haughty anvil]

how hard is it to mine quantonium

[north oyster]

Not too bad. Best to use the Lancet laser head. Crack all the rock first because as soon as you start to gather it the timer starts. When you land at the refinery, if the alarm is going off, you can suicide on the pad (once you get out of the cockpit) otherwise stow the ship as soon as you can.

[haughty anvil]

so one at the developers in the last 12 years ever though that server disconnect = lose your stuff/die might just piss people off

[hollow sedge]

where can i sell Hadonite?

[tame elbow]

Hadanite is sold at mining outposts on planets and moons

[tame elbow]

The Kickstarter only started 9 years ago. The devs are aware that 30ks are annoying and are working on a system for recovery after a 30k.

They know about every single bug that goes on and have a plan for how they're approaching the game's development. Unfortunately alpha is primarily focused on adding features and not fixing bugs. They want the PU to be as playable as possible but they're not dedicating lots of man power to fixing problems that are going to be fixed later when icache+server meshing is added.

[haughty anvil]

so if you cancel a work order you LOSE everything?

[blissful oxide]

You loose what wasn't refined yes ?

[tame elbow]

you get nothing back if you cancel

[manic whale]

Prospector in 3.14PTU: still having killer ladder/still losing passive sub-components by claiming/rock composition after the scan was showed in tremendous values as f.e. 9000%gold; 400%tungsten = 22,5%gold;1%tungsten in reality

[haughty anvil]

had the killer ladder lol

what are best mining modules

[tame elbow]

My favorite passives are FLTR-XLs

They reduce inert materials

Brandts and stampedes are good for consumables

[spring sentinel]

hello there. does anyone know if refinery orders persist through patches?

[haughty anvil]

been told to clear any orders before a patch they get wiped

[spring sentinel]

righto. thanks for the info

[haughty anvil]

when is the next patch then

[spring sentinel]

i don't know but it has been released to public PTU so it won't be long now

[inland jewel]

But how is the scanner? on the nomad to discover the deposits to mine??

[blissful oxide]

Sometimes it does, sometime it doesn't
When it doesn't, it is mostly on a big patch (like 3.14)
I'd suggest to sell everything before 3.14

[spring sentinel]

👍

[teal crater]

trading still ass?

[inland jewel]

is there a reason my lazer would turn off on my ROC mid extraction?

did i fat finger some other key to diable the lazer?

[tame elbow]

Yes

[north oyster]

Still dead BUT during the events like xenothreat and 9 Tails they will activate the journal for trading. It will be game on then

[knotty onyx]

when i mine this do i have to take it to a refinery or like where do i put this raw stuff

[thin escarp]

i highly doubt the patch comes this month

so yall should be safe for now

@knotty onyx always refinery

[ionic wasp]

I have a prospector parked in storage at this station, but when I go to the refinery to pick up my refined ore, there's nothing in the dropdown menu to let me choose where to store my ore

are we not allowed to store refined ore in the prospector?

the prospector is the only ship I own

I've been trying different arbitrary ways to force the game to realize I have a prospector stored at this station

like spawning and storing the prospector, spawning the prospector and going to the refinery, and straight up joining different servers

but the refinery refuses to let me put my refined ore anywhere

[thin escarp]

you need a cargo ship

to load that on

[ionic wasp]

so the prospector

[thin escarp]

is a mining ship

[ionic wasp]

but the prospector has 32 scu of space

[thin escarp]

to transport n sell. you need a ship that can hold cargo

yeah not cargo space

[ionic wasp]

if this is the case then I'm brokkeee lmao

[thin escarp]

thats mined resource space.

[ionic wasp]

I'm shit out of everything then

[thin escarp]

i'm about to run a mining op in about 50 minutes

i'll show ya the ropes

and you'll make a ton of money

[ionic wasp]

I was thinking I'd mine and sell until I can buy a freelancer

so I can get some real cargo space to put all this ore on

[thin escarp]

let me show ya the way i gotchu man

you free in about 50?

[ionic wasp]

nah it's fine

[thin escarp]

you'll make 500k+

[ionic wasp]

I'll find another way

[thin escarp]

okay i'm only trying to teach you mining. but if you wanna learn more the hard way go for it

good luuck!

[ionic wasp]

thanks

[teal wing]

You could rent a Cutlass, Freelancer or Constellation to transport the refined minerals in the meantime, until you can afford to buy one outright ^^

[ionic wasp]

cuttie, freelancer, and connies are too expensive at the moment

is it possible to store only a portion of the finished refined ore in my ship, make the trip, then return back for more?

because I'm considering just getting an avenger titan to ship my refined ore

[manic whale]

no

[ionic wasp]

good to know

[manic whale]

You can go for few mining sessions and sell that ore directly, without refining, to get some money

[teal crater]

You can always ask for help from someone... I have a star lifter collecting dust atm

[coarse cape]

they have to own it to transport it @teal crater

[teal crater]

Oh yeah

F

[coarse cape]

yeah

[teal crater]

Rip him

[strange raven]

How do you get vehicle load in ship

I get ship on hangar, and whats next?

[blissful oxide]

You need to go in a station that can spawn a vehicule
Then spawn it, and put it inside your vehicule

All HDMS can spawn vehicule (blue light)
New Babage can too

[hollow sedge]

does anybody know what yield means in the refining methods, not sure which method to select

[blissful oxide]

Take Dinyx, always

When you refine, you loose some minerals in the process
that is the "yield"

[hollow sedge]

ohh okay, thanks for the help

[sage spire]

is refined quant still volatile?

[teal wing]

Once refined, quant is totally safe

[haughty anvil]

think it still sensitive large knocks?

not tried mining it yet

whole 22 mins and you go boom is bit off putting

[teal wing]

I don't think so, but I try to avoid large knocks anyway when transporting refined quant considering the risk of losing the whole cargo to a overenthusiastic collision damage calculation

The timer isn't so bad if you crack the whole rock before collecting it, the time is more than enough to get back to a refinery unless Starmap decides to not work

[teal wing]

Or you get pulled for a security inspection, which seems to happen quite regularly at the lagrange mining spots

[haughty anvil]

filling up refinery with orders

[teal wing]

What do you use to transport it? I'm looking forward to 3.14 live to try out my prospector/taurus combo

[haughty anvil]

cutlass black

[teal wing]

Nice ^^

[haughty anvil]

so what's the quant worth refined on a prospector load

[blissful oxide]

A full Mole is around 750k

Prospector should be around 250k

[north oyster]

As Cross and others may have told you, you'll need a transport vehicle. You can continue to stack jobs BUT be aware that in a week or two a new patch will be dropping (3.14) and this will wipe all refinery jobs. You can Rent a Cutlass Black for 24 hrs to run all the jobs to the TDD/CBD. You'll only be able to get one or two refinery jobs loaded at a time (42 SCU or less). You can also rent a ROC along with that and make fast cash back. You will need to purchase the Pembroke armor though. Just options to consider

The Refinery does not split jobs

It all fits or it doesn't ship

For each job

[sage spire]

Will new babbage buy my quantanium from me?

Or do i need to go somewhere else because SC trade tools told me that new Babbage, would buy my quant from me and when i got there, they weren't buying.

[jagged wing]

Have they fixed the issue with cargo disappearing after CTD?

Getting kinda bored with Elite Dangerous and wanna play SC...not gonna bother if I can trade cargo in my Freelancer.

[ionic wasp]

useful info, thanks

[tame elbow]

You still lose cargo if you 30k

[jagged wing]

Thanks for the heads up. Be glad when this is no longer an issue.

[teal wing]

Yeah, but you need to go to the terminals in the Trade and Development Division (in the Commons), not the admin consoles used for commodity trading iirc, which is where SC Trade Tools might be directing you ^^

[foggy iron]

Also TDD might be full but if you wait 5 mins they might buy some or buy all.

[north oyster]

Also note that the CRU-L1 gives you a 3% bonus of yield if you are refining Quantainium. I think it is the only refinery that does.

[north oyster]

You bet and this #industrial-professions thread offers great help and insight, it helped me a ton when I got started about 13 months ago

[haughty anvil]

about 360k profit today

[inland sapphire]

I've had a lot of 30k problems lately. When the servers were stable, I could fly around in my max with a roc until I had nearly a million worth of cargo in a few hours

[haughty anvil]

I deliver 1 refinery job at a time

30k is real threat

seem to be lucky with Lorville so far

avoid Area18

[inland sapphire]

Lately I've had trouble filling a roc before it crapps out, so I've been emptying half loads and selling every hour

[manic whale]

I always sell at Area18

[haughty anvil]

Area18 is 30k fest

[manic whale]

30k is not bound to a place in the system 🙂

[haughty anvil]

perhaps after 12 years they should hold off with all the new stuff and fix what they have

[manic whale]

no, we need tech and game mechanics to be build, fixing bugs and adding content is a thing of beta version

[tame elbow]

star citizen is 9 years old

and in fact, work with the most recent engine didn't start until 2017

[hollow sedge]

Is trading going to be fixed in 3.14?

[tame elbow]

No

[north oyster]

Only during server wide events, they will activate the journal. Similar to like they did during Invictus Launch Week

9-Tails and Xenothreat

[muted phoenix]

I see the Mole is about worthless now if you take it out alone. With the new way of scanning you can't scan from the pilots seat. Also don't turn off power from number 1 turret when finished, It will shut all power down. 😆

[oak lake]

You can't scan from the pilots seat?

[muted phoenix]

You could always do the primary scan and still can. But when the little white distance numbers showed up with the old scanner. You could re scan it by holding the left mouse button and it would tell you what was in it. You can't do that anymore. A lot of people didn't know you could do that.

[main saddle]

I can scan from the pilot seat. Press 'v' to switch to scanning mode and then target the rock and press the left mouse button (or whatever control is mapped).

[thin escarp]

@sage spirei usually sell at area 18

sometimes you gotta wait for a server tick

[modest helm]

Is anyone having problems flying the Cutlass Black in Area 18? I tried for two days but the ship is uncontrollable.

[serene thorn]

What does it do that makes it uncontrollable?

[strange raven]

What cockpit freelancer max have?

[sage forge]

...a Freelancer cockpit?

[strange raven]

Yeah, i see two cockpits the blue max have cooler cockpit but i have no idea whats up with that

https://themeforest.unitedthemes.com/wpversions/brooklyn/demo12/portfolio-slug/the-freelancer-max/

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/misc-freelancer/Freelancer-MAX

And same cockpit here but on you tube i see different one

[haughty anvil]

what's the best place for quantonium preferably close to a refinery

[chrome mural]

Arccorp one of the moons

Travel back and forth to Arc l1

[haughty anvil]

cru l1 seems to be good it has a refinery there to

[chrome mural]

Yea but the moons have less quant on them

[haughty anvil]

hmm getting lots a rock that won't scan

[north oyster]

Dud scans are really server dependent. Failing server or lag/desync will get you a lot of failed scans. I've had servers where I'd have about 70% failure then then other servers with hardly any failed scans

[north oyster]

All the Freelancers have the same cockpit. The MAX is one of my favorite ships for ROC transport

[thin escarp]

@haughty anvil ghost rocks. that happens

@haughty anvil lyria is a great moon for quant.

then take it to arc l1

hur l3 is okay for quant. so is cru l3

cru l1 can be your refinery if you go to hur l3 and hur l2 can be your refinery if you go to cru l3

[haughty anvil]

got attacked at crul1 by some one or an npc? didn't have a ore onboard and was pretty close to the station, managed to jump away

[strange raven]

It is a cool ship

[hollow sedge]

can i rant a ship for taking my refine qt

to a trading station

[strange raven]

i can do that for 15% of profit

but yes, the andromeda

[hollow sedge]

ill rent it then, but thx for the offer

[tame elbow]

I get this a lot too. Pretty frustrating. Hopefully the new scanning tech in 3.14 will fix it but I won't be surprised if it doesn't

[strange raven]

Does one die on stairs or ramp in 3.14

[haughty anvil]

okay port olisar, landed on my assigned pad ship gets impounded?

[manic whale]

I´ve never got impounded without a warning

[north oyster]

The Cutlass Black rents pretty inexpensive. It can carry one or two jobs at a time seeing that it only has 42 SCU. I don't recall what the Freelancer rents for

When done you can rent a ROC for about 4k aUEC and earn some quick extra cash

[marble crater]

is ROC mining still a good way to make credits?

[strange raven]

Can valkyre carry any scu?

[coarse cape]

Yes

[haughty anvil]

yay QT drive at arcorp and boom

dead

[rare gate]

welcome to star citizen

[obsidian stone]

Just another day in 3.13

[haughty anvil]

place is so lagged out

so great gotta try and get through arcorp and try to escape the place again

[haughty anvil]

and crash....

[hollow sedge]

@north oyster i alredy have a Cutty but i might buy a new hauling ship for cheap

I mine qt with a prospector

[north oyster]

The MAX makes a great hauler with 120 SCU, next step up would be the CAT. Next patch you can get a C2 for a little over 5mil aUEC.

[north oyster]

ROC is a great way to earn coin. Each trip out will bring anywhere from 150k to 220k aUEC. You'll need a ship to transport and also Pembroke armor

Hadanite is your target gem and Aberdeen is the best place. Arial is also a good place

[molten mango]

Is there a way to keep your ship from drifting towards an asteroid, like 1/m sec or so? I'd like to mine without holding down S

[autumn glade]

Make sure your in coupled mode by pressing V and then you can use X to slow right down to 0/ms

[molten mango]

Thanks, I'll try that

[marble crater]

Thanks! Have only tried fps cave mining and seemed very slow to find rocks. Will have to rent a ROC/larger ship and give it a go

[north oyster]

Let me know how it goes and if you have any questions. It's worth the effort. The cutty/ROC combo with the Pembroke is all for less than 55K. You can make 3x that in one trip.

[pliant fjord]

would it be strongly non-recommended to rent a Prospector

or is that a decent idea

[slim atlas]

Its good to try out mining, but the mole is just that much better

When they allow cargo transfer it will be a better ship to mine with than it is

[rose forge]

trying to sell ore at lorvill and I keep getting an error everytime I try to sell

[tacit delta]

I mean the MOLE is like 5 million

[slim atlas]

Yeah but rentals for just trying it out Id say prospector is good just cargo wise mole wins for solo

[modest helm]

CRU-L1 my work order finished so I had it loaded into my Cutlass. I get to the ship but there are no SCUs anywhere in the ship. Is this a known bug? I went back and checked the work order but as expected it was no longer in the system.

[obsidian stone]

It's a visual bug. You can verify your cargo at the kiosk at the station admin or ore selling kiosk at the refinery.

[modest helm]

Ok thanks. That's reassuring.

It's not a lot but when every credit counts it's a tough loss.

[haughty anvil]

does the quantonium timer stop if you place the ship into storage

[obsidian stone]

yes

[haughty anvil]

what's the best mining head for QT, I have a Helix 1

[obsidian stone]

It will depend on your strategy but Helix is good as long as you have mining head mods that will help compensate for its lack of responsiveness to power adjustments.

[north oyster]

The Prospector comes with a pathetic laserhead that can not be changed out. So you can learn the process and mine small rocks but the most valuable ore you won't be able to mine for the most part. I would suggest taking those same dollars and renting the Cutlass Black along with a ROC (also buy the Pembroke armor). With that setup you can learn mining and still make good coin. A single trip in the ROC can yield upto 200K aUEC. Focus on Hatanite and mine the moons of Aberdeen or Arial

[north oyster]

The Helix is my favorite but the Lancet has the largest green zone for charging. It is much easier to use the Lancet for quantainium. You will want to pair that with the Surge (be careful with that one) and also the Stampede (for super fast green zone charge).

[pliant fjord]

I'll do that, thanks for the advice

Would the Avenger Titan hold a ROC?

[north oyster]

No

That's why the cutty for now

[pliant fjord]

Ahh ok

[north oyster]

BUT when you can buy a ship, get the MAX instead for transport. It's fantastic for the ROC

[pliant fjord]

Would another option be the connie? same SCU as the MAX iirc

Already planning on getting a connie

[north oyster]

I still don't trust the Lift but, yes, the Connie is a good ship

You can buy the ROC for only 172K aUEC, so you can earn that in one trip.

[pliant fjord]

Ah yeah the lifts can be a bit shoddy. I have 300k right now so I might buy a ROC and rent the cutty

[north oyster]

Don't forget the Pembroke Armor also, critical for those areas

[pliant fjord]

Alright, thanks for the advice

[north oyster]

One thing you can do also, after you spawn the ROC is to QT to OM-1 (orbital marker). Drop to the planet surface from there. It is always daylight and you rarely run into anyone

[pliant fjord]

Sweet

[north oyster]

I would recommend when diving down to the surface is to uncouple at max speed and then do a flip to be ready to burn when you hit the atmosphere.

Go slow and ping at 100% for hadanite. Those deposits normally only show up when you're within 2000 meters. You can also go near big deposits and ping from there because the gems often hide in the shadow of large deposits

The new scanning and ping in 3.14 will require relearning some things. I've not had a chance to test it yet. Hoping to maybe do that today.

[pliant fjord]

Is this just the most efficient way to get to the surface?

Enter like Starship?

[north oyster]

Dropping to the surface from an orbital marker, you want to head down at max speed. you may be able to stop in time using regular thrusters but I'd recommend flipping to do a burn to slow down

[pallid temple]

Can't beat a good old flip and burn in an MSR

[pliant fjord]

That's what we like to see

[tacit delta]

Flipping?
As in, you flip 180 degrees and thrust upwards back to space to reduce speed?

[north oyster]

Correct, "flip&burn" for Max braking speed

[haughty anvil]

what's the default key to use a mining consumable?

[tame elbow]

Alt+1, alt+2 and alt+3

[haughty anvil]

thanks

i was attacked by an npc ship while mining, seems rather pointless since i had no cargo

[strange raven]

In EvE it would not be pointless so I am siding with NPC this time 😄

[manic whale]

...just spawned back into the ship after starting the game from power outage. Totally forgot that its a thing. So... is it better when in a ship full of cargo to power down PC before the 30K kicks in? 😄

[rotund breach]

Yes. If you think the server is failing, land somewhere and bedlog

[manic whale]

Maybe in the future. I wouldn´t certainly risk a bedlog in current release

[delicate phoenix]

What's the optimal mining head and laser for a prospector?

I'm pretty new to mining.

[foggy iron]

@delicate phoenix best head for Quantanium is the Lancet. Otherwise the helix.

[north oyster]

If you want to sweat bullets, do it in the Prospector. Need to nickname that ship "Lawn Dart"

[pallid temple]

Oh lord

[hollow sedge]

is ship mining more profitable than roc mining?

[manic whale]

I´m still rating it the same

[obsidian stone]

Thats a question that has a very nuanced answer. You have to evaluate the value of a full load of ore, the risk involved, the travel times, captial investemnt...etc.

[hollow sedge]

@obsidian stone Is there more risk than roc mining then? How much would you say it costs to setup a ship for ship mining? Buying it and components

[obsidian stone]

I feel the biggest risk with ROC mining is player piracy. For ship mining, you need a MISC Prospector. I am not sure how muchit is to rent but to buy with aUEC, 2.06 mil.

[hollow sedge]

@obsidian stone does it already come with everything needed?

[obsidian stone]

Yes until you're ready to take on more difficult mineables and need to upgrade.

[hollow sedge]

Do you know how much it would cost to completely upgrade it?

[obsidian stone]

No but I think i can give you an estimate in a few minutes.

[hollow sedge]

Oh it's a small ship, that's a surprise thought it would be bigger

[obsidian stone]

There is a bigger ship but it is better run with a crew.

[hollow sedge]

Ah I see

[obsidian stone]

Plan on spending around 300k aUEC for upgrades.

[hollow sedge]

That isn't so bad

Even if I don't do much ship mining I'm going to save yo and set one up just so I've experienced it at least

Is arial still considered the best place for roc mining? It is where I've been doing it

[obsidian stone]

Arial is a popular spot.

[hollow sedge]

Popular, but the best spot?

[obsidian stone]

A lot miners like Aberdeen as well.

I can't speak for which is best.

[hollow sedge]

🤔 I'll have to give it a try

[hollow sedge]

anyone want to mine with me at lyria, will help each other if we find big qt rock

[north oyster]

The Prospector rental is just about worthless. The laser head on it is trash. aUEC would be better spent renting a ROC and Cutlass. Plus you have to buy Pembroke armor.

[hollow sedge]

@north oyster I'll buy the ship not rent it, already have a cutlass, roc and Pembroke

[north oyster]

Very cool, I actually have purchased several Prospectors in game so I never have to wait on a claim.

You'll want the Lancet for Quantainium because it gives you a very large green charge zone. You'll want surge and a few other consumables

[north oyster]

You might want to look at the MAX some time as a ROC transport, it's fantastic RORO and way easier than the cutty

I'm actually going to CCU my Cutlass Black to a Freelancer MAX

[hollow sedge]

Is CCU the melting thing for ships bought with real money? I'm not sure what RORO is either lol

And I take it max is a type of ship?

[north oyster]

Yes, the cutty is my game package ship. I started with the Titan and then got the cutty.

RORO is roll on / roll off

z_s Freelancer MAX

[stark torrent]

Musashi Industrial and Starflight Concern (MISC)

Freelancer MAX

The MISC Freelancer MAX is a variant with additional cargo capacity at the expense of weapons. The Freelancer MAX variant sacrifices weaponry for an increased cargo capacity. This makes it ideal for equipment or raw materials transport.

Role

Heavy Freight

Crew

1 – 4

Cargo

120.00 SCU

Length

38.00m

Height

9.00m

Beam

36.00m

Mass

360,208 Kg

Combat Speed

154 m/s

Max Speed

1005 m/s

In-Game Price

2,181,500 aUEC

Pledge Price

US$150.00

Status

Flight ready

Links

Galactapedia · Pledge store · Presentation · Brochure · Trailer · SC Unpacked · #DPSCalculator · Hardpoint.io · StarShip 42 · FleetYards

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z_s Mustang Beta

[stark torrent]

Consolidated Outland (CNOU)

Mustang Beta

The Consolidated Outland Mustang Beta is a variant of the Mustang civilian spacecraft. Classified as a touring & exploration ship, the Mustang Beta has an extended-range over the Mustang Alpha with a series of updates to appeal to cost-conscious explorers. The Beta ships with the hardened Tarsus Leaper jump engine as well as a small rear cabin with room for amenities and life support equipment.

Role

Pathfinder

Crew

1

Cargo

0.00 SCU

Length

17.00m

Height

5.00m

Beam

15.00m

Mass

39,610 Kg

Combat Speed

195 m/s

Max Speed

1216 m/s

In-Game Price

404,000 aUEC

Pledge Price

US$40.00

Status

Flight ready

Links

Galactapedia · Pledge store · Presentation · Brochure · Trailer · SC Unpacked · #DPSCalculator · Hardpoint.io · StarShip 42 · FleetYards

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z_s Avenger Titan

[stark torrent]

Aegis Dynamics (AEGS)

Avenger Titan

The Aegis Avenger Titan is the base variant of the Avenger. With the extra cargo space and the Avenger's tried and true combat abilities, the Titan is a light cargo hauler that's more than capable of handling itself in a fight. The Avenger Titan's loadout is nearly identical to the Stalker, with only the wingtip Suckerpunch cannons being replaced.

Role

Light Freight

Crew

1

Cargo

8.00 SCU

Length

22.00m

Height

5.00m

Beam

16.00m

Mass

50,056 Kg

Combat Speed

260 m/s

Max Speed

1115 m/s

In-Game Price

785,600 aUEC

Pledge Price

US$55.00

Status

Flight ready

Links

Galactapedia · Pledge store · Presentation · Trailer · SC Unpacked · #DPSCalculator · Hardpoint.io · StarShip 42 · FleetYards

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[hollow sedge]

should i run stealth grade a components on my prospector?

[crimson mantle]

With you pinging and running a hot laser, stealth won't help that much 🙂

[hollow sedge]

fair enough

also what else should i mine beside quantanium

[rose forge]

anyone know why my mole is just showing inert materials is that just a UI bug or is that my cargo actually turning into inert mats

[sharp violet]

im trying to understand the content menue for mining

the 1st and 2nd number of composition

if its 42 and 60

if the numbers are really close they're more pure?

[crimson mantle]

The first number is the % of the rock that is that ore: 42 means 42% of the rock is quantanium
The second is the % of rock that first amount is found in: 60 means that the 42% is spread in 60% of the rock
The closer they are, the purer the "sub-chunks" will be

[crimson mantle]

It's up to you really: https://sc-trade.tools/ores/Spaceship

[sharp violet]

thank you

[sharp violet]

refinery station not recognizing my prospecter

[blissful oxide]

You try to put refined material into your prospector ?

If yes that's normal, you need a hauler for that, mining shopping can't haul

[foggy iron]

My experience was that initially I was earning no more in my Prospector than I had in my ROC but after a few days I got better and worked out how to use mining heads & resources etc. and found that I was earning about 3 times as much as a ROC each trip (mining quant).
It does take longer from finding the ore to getting the full rewards as you cannot just fly back to an outpost and pick up your money. You must refine it for a day or two then load it in a freighter and take it to a city TDD to sell it but that delay is only really relevant when you first start as after that you always have some jobs nearing completion each day. Another difference is that when you mine quant you only need to mine once before heading home (well to be honest you have to return home after one asteroid 🙂 ) In a ROC you only get a small amount of ore from each site so must keep putting the ROC back in the ship to go find another place.
If you prefer to mine with a ROC but want to upgrade the ship to carry it then, personally, I would choose an MSR over a Freelancer Max. It carries two ROCs (same as the MAX) but its scanner detects minerals about three times further out. It is also a much nicer ship with data gameplay coming and is more agile even with the nerfs in 4.14.

[tacit delta]

Personally, ship mining is more "profitable" simply because you can get more with less time

the big rocks are very prominent, and there are various items that can help

[hollow sedge]

I really like the design of the MSR but it is an expensive ship

[blissful oxide]

With ingame currency or real money ?

[hollow sedge]

Both xD

I think it's about 5mill ingame

[strange raven]

You can buy msr with real money?

I dont see that option

[hollow sedge]

i think it appears on sale now and then

[blissful oxide]

Yeah on sale it's ~260$

Though, with aUEC, for that price you get a Connie Phoenix, dunno which one I prefer

[hollow sedge]

5mill is a lot for me lol

[strange raven]

I make 1.3mil a day

On HRT and VHRT

In Sentinel

[tacit delta]

You have sentinel and only killing VHRT?

what about ERT

[strange raven]

I dont know, never tried it

[blissful oxide]

It's sure alot, but with some dedication you can get it somewhat fast ˆˆ' (weeks)

[hollow sedge]

freelancer is a lot cheaper though

do i really need two ROCs though?

[tacit delta]

No

Once you've filled one get the fuck back and store it

[hollow sedge]

that is what i was thinking lol

i wanna get a prospector and try ship mining anyways

[blissful oxide]

You can create box with ROC, you can store the box in your ship and fill another one
A simple Cutlass black will do the trick, it's more about "beauty", style, etc

[tacit delta]

yes, but a simple error code 30,000 will kill it

[modest helm]

Hauling your refined ore to market is quite stressful. Lost a load last night trying to fly into Area 18. I couldn't find the spaceport ended up violating restricted air space and was blown out of the sky. Needless to say I am not qualified to land at night, at least not in Area 18.

[hollow sedge]

1mill away from a prospector

[modest helm]

I was in that position a few days ago. I was a bit worried after the second day because I could not find Quant. I've finally got a handle on it, somewhat. I've had horrible luck in the Halo, but Lyria has been very productive. I have five work orders at ARC-L1, and did a haul earlier today. I'm finally getting into a proper mining workflow. So far SC has been the most challenging. Eve and ED were fairly straightforward with ED being the easiest.

[marble crater]

I have tried fps cave mining maybe 10 times now and never made it out haha. either randomly drop dead from glitching on a rock or 30K

[hollow sedge]

yeah cave mining isn't worth it

i get lost in the caves too

[tame elbow]

Cave mining was what I did first in this game

I pledged for a pisces and mined in a cave on Daymar a bunch

[marble crater]

well i'm a noob so thought it would be a good place to start

[tame elbow]

It was a pretty good way to make some starting money

Also mining is fun

Now I mostly just ship mine

[marble crater]

yeah I quite like the caves and mining mini game is cool but never made it out yet haha

[tame elbow]

Flares help

You can buy them in weapon shops

Put flares on the right side of walls going in and follow left-hand side flares to find your way out

[marble crater]

it's more the 30K (7 times) and dropping dead while on a rock (3 times)

[tame elbow]

Or- just gather your minerals and quit to menu and join a new server. Your minerals will still be in your backpack

But you'll spawn in a station

How odd. I've never dropped dead randomly on rocks

[marble crater]

ooh thank you for that tip, have gotten around 80% full and quite annoying to lose it like that

[tame elbow]

Wonder if that's a new bug

Another tip is you can buy a tractor beam attachment from refinery decks

And you can move crystals out of awkward places with it after you've mined the rock