industrial-professions

[tepid basin]

Yeah, yeah.

Just. Seriously. I am sorry. I got a bunch of shit that ticked me off. I don't wanna take it out on you but. If you're gonna steal from Roc miners. At least give me a courtesy "Hey I stole your shit" when I fly off thinking my shit is bugged.

Yeah, I ain't doing that again. That just killed my desire to play SC tonight. Gonna blow off some steam and get a snack.

That is a serious oversight from CIG and is total bullshit.

I am more pissed at CIG for not thinking of that or fixing it by now.

[fossil dirge]

@tepid basin nah that andarude guy's just a bitch

[tepid basin]

Pirate gameplay is a thing man. It's gonna exist. Coming to terms with that is a thing.

But if it's gonna happen. I wanna at least either know it's happening or have a chance to fight back.

Like fuck. When it happened. The display didn't even update. It still said I had half a fucking inventory of Hadnite.

I mean. I'd be less pissed if it told me all my Hadnite was gone. I honestly thought this man was a hacker and teleported over to fuck me with cause I didn't see a ship or anything.

Cause apparently hackers are a thing too.

[fossil dirge]

who tf would hack in star citizen

[tepid basin]

No clue. But I heard a vid about it becoming an issue.

And as much as I'd love to just stick pirates in the same category as griefers and call them all assholes. Part of it was my fault for being naive. The other part of it. Is that it's been advertised as an actual gameplay loop.

Just gonna make some chicken tenders. Get a soda. Play a game or two of LOL to cool off. Then get back at it.

Yeah. I just didn't know that was legit a thing people could do.

Now I know.

Next time. It's my own fault for being a dumbass.

[fossil dirge]

😂 ur putting too much on urself

[tepid basin]

I'm not in the mood to be an asshole.

Sadly. I'm pissed about something else and I'm not about to let all my anger out on some dude who's playing a game. We've all been assholes in the game at one point or another.

[finite drift]

@tepid basin If you are still wanting to ground mine, I'd love to join you, I have a ROC to use

[tepid basin]

Funny thing. I was just hopping back on. I have a ROC too, we can both pile up in my MSR.

[finite drift]

Wanna hop into a vc chat below?

[delicate girder]

How many FR-66 (F) shields and how many Palisade (P) Shields is right for a Sabre? 2F1P, 1F2P or 3F?

[paper pewter]

when you have quantanium ore in the prospector and press m for mining laser, you now see a timer until boom.

[manic whale]

for mining?

[delicate girder]

No not for mining. Forgot to switch to #flight-combat-racing

[vocal chasm]

What exactly happened? I want to make sure that my stuff doesn't get stolen so I want to know how ^^

[vocal chasm]

@crimson mantle What does OVI breakdown on your site in the mining section mean? Do the green numbers stand for scu mined/hour?

[crimson mantle]

The Ore Value Index (OVI) takes into account a number of things: individual ore value, deposit purity, geographical abundance of deposits and size of deposit clusters. Think of it as the total value of a volume of space if it were to be strip mined. While this does mean that somewhere with rare but valuable ores could have the same OVI as somewhere littered with medium-value ores, you can look at the OVI breakdown (by deposit and ore) and use the filters to refine the results.

It does not have unit: bigger is better, but that's it 😄

[abstract jewel]

Where do those data come from?

[vocal chasm]

wow okay 👌

[crimson mantle]

Straight from the game's files, like the rest 😄
I do the calculations to come up with the OVI though, but it takes into account all the above stuff 😄

chances of a cluster in volume X average rocks per cluster X average amount of ore per rock X value of ore

[tepid basin]

So basically. I was Roc mining. I didn't see or notice him. He came up to the back cargo hatch of my Roc. Emptied it into a box and that was it. The cargo meter on my screen didn't update or anything. I saw him but thought he was a hacker and didn't notice until I was trying to sell.

[finite berry]

incredibly stupid question inbound that I may have missed the memo for: have the trade commodities like audio visual etc. been removed now invictus is over?

[vocal chasm]

Ooof that sucks. I've been grieved too when I mined too close to an outpost. Since then I'm always flying to an om point and then I dive straight down to the surface. This has the additional advantage that nobody can mine the rocks before me. (However I do bounty hunting rn to maximise auec/hour without risk)

[vocal chasm]

Idk what you mean with "trade commodities like audio visual etc." sry

[north oyster]

My understanding is that it's all done and none of the journal entries are accurate. I've not tried them though.

The journal is dead info now

Be nice if that wasn't the case

[finite berry]

copy that - thanks @north oyster

[north oyster]

Yeah, my C2 hasn't anything to do

Except carry a tonk

[finite berry]

mmm hoping that its not a dry spell (trading) until the ninetails

box missions in an m2 are alittle overkill 😆

[north oyster]

LOL, ikr!!

I'm thinking the "Great Reset* will happen before Trade in the 'verse does

[finite berry]

hoping that the ninetails kicking off (and demise of port olisar) will hopefully be trade back in alittle more prominent

[north oyster]

My impression is that there are too many moving parts to the broken trade system. They could do an artificial trade fix like they did during IFW. Which you're right, during 9-Tails they will implement the Journal again. However, that's only a bandaid over a bullet hole fix

[finite berry]

yeah its not a permanent solution but I'll take it as an interim - sooner it moves towards "self sustaining" the better (the tony z stuff)

[native badge]

can the greycat ROC mining laser be upgraded?

[manic whale]

I would not mind hauling those 100k profit cargo for the change from BH or mining, but in the current state of the servers, you need to make 3-4 runs which take 3/4-1h before it pays for what you´re investing to the trade, what you´re risking against 30Ks . Only after that you are making real profit

[west wyvern]

so i rented a prospector for 3 days costing me more than half my credits, i had no idea i would need another ship to send the refined stuff to

all i have is an aurora lol

[north oyster]

No sure which 100K runs you mention. If it is the journal options, I think they are closed for now until 9-Tail Lockdown. But I completely agree on the 30K risk is too great for some of those 5m+ upfront aUEC commitments.

[manic whale]

Astatine, Titanium not working anymore?

[west wyvern]

is there anything cheap i can buy to send at least 30 scu to

[north oyster]

Your refinery jobs do not expire (unless wiped due to a patch upgrade). So, from here you can spend the 3 days mining and refining. Then you can do bounty hunting until you have enough to rent a Cutlass Black.

[north oyster]

Cutlass Black is the best one atm

[north oyster]

All the outpost that I visited were empty ... well, only has tiny SCU of inventory. Nothing to fill the Hercules in one stop

[west wyvern]

yeah im somewhat paranoid about a surprise patch

so i can send the completed work orders to a cutlass?

[north oyster]

They are testing one patch in the PTU but it only removed the huge data logs. I don't see that killing refinery jobs, but then again, this is CIG

[north oyster]

Yes, a cutty can carry one or two jobs

[west wyvern]

oh alright well that helps a lot

Thanks!

[north oyster]

I have a cutty or a MAX I use.

[winter hazel]

anyone here got that one chart of the best resources to mine and where to refine them?

[manic whale]

2 refined jobs are not that much, but maybe safer for haul than 6 of them 🙂

[north oyster]

"best resources" is usually Quantainium for top dollar (but a pain). CRU-L1 is only place to give a 3% bonus for Quan Refinery.

[winter hazel]

yeah ik quantainium is the best but there are other good non volatile resources

[north oyster]

Your L3 Lagrange points are the best location for Quantainium

[north oyster]

SC Tools has a locator for resources and the best odds

I like Laranite, agricium and Bexilite. Do not waste time on Hesp or Borase

Agricium is a little difficult to sell at CBD (lorville) and sometimes the TDD (New Babbage and Area18).

[manic whale]

yeah, Laranite is not top, but gives good purity of sub-chunks

[north oyster]

Agreed, both agricium and laranite break really good

I would not recommend any ore below agricium unless you are running a rental prospector

[manic whale]

^^^^just wanted to write, that I dont know, what to aim for with rented Prospector 🙂

[north oyster]

For a rental Prospector, you have to focus on quantity instead of quality. So any rocks or asteroids that you can break are game.

[west wyvern]

i have been looking for stuff with a large amount of quartz over inert, since that is VERY common

though one of my completed work orders is mostly copper & gold

[manic whale]

thats the point - what stats of the rock does he need look at? Mass, resistance?

[north oyster]

Anything below 4K, I think it can crack under 5k. NOW, you can use SURGE since they added you can use one consumable. BE CAREFUL but that will make it where you can crack larger rocks

Also, purity will affect cracking, so a high pure laranite 4k might not crack when a high pure gold would

[west wyvern]

i think im pretty good at mining, ive mined stuff thats really unstable with a tiny window for a successful crack

like 2.7 instability

im sure there's way more unstable stuff tho, like that one mineral that sells for 88 refined

quant, and i haven't found any of that yet

[finite berry]

@west wyvern struggling to find quantanium?

[west wyvern]

well im only mining in the hurston system

[finite berry]

yella in the crusader system tends to be a good hunting ground for quant

[north oyster]

Hurston area like Aberdeen is really good for agricium, laranite and bexilite

[finite berry]

short jump to cru-l1 for refining as well

[north oyster]

You can also stop in Aaron's Halo if you want to try asteroids. If you are jumping from CRU-L1 to ARC-L3, kill the jump right at 11.5M Km enroute.

I found lots of Laranite and Quantium there

Quan has NOT been my friend. Not sure why, but I could have 13 minutes left on the timer and the ship still blows up on me

[finite berry]

got to run it close to the mark, crack all the rocks, start mopping up, turn the vtol off and then you notice that one rock at the bottom that still needs cracking with an insane amount of quant in that you missed 🤣

warning lights flapping at you before you've even left the surface

[north oyster]

I found two Quan asteroids (20 & 22%) right beside each other. Cracked both to purple in a matter of moments and vacuumed them both up in less than 2 minutes. I had 13 minutes on the clock for a short jump to CRU-L1 (30 seconds?) and once on the pad the alarm went to straight RED and blew up the ship before I could get in the elevator.

[crisp bobcat]

Can you not transport the refined materials back to sell in the prospecter?

[north oyster]

no

Sorry, would be nice

refined is regular cargo

[crisp bobcat]

ah

[north oyster]

Yep, the refined Laranite is the same as the Laranite you would buy at an outpost to sell at a TDD.

[crisp bobcat]

@west wyvern you can sell the raw ore also without refining it I believe so you can make more money to rent a cutlass or something

[iron badge]

is the trade route from L1 > arccorp still lucratife (fireworks) now invictus had ended?

[north oyster]

Yes, NO, the journal options for the event are now expired. At least as I understand it

[iron badge]

so its still about 100k netto per run ?

[north oyster]

none of those are working, there were some runs that would net about 100K but the risk was many millions of aUEC for that spread

OOPs, I answered "Yes" when the answer is "NO" that route is dead

[iron badge]

aah just in time 😄

did a few runs during invictus

so were back to titanium at bezdek / 😄

[cinder steppe]

this is rather sad

[iron badge]

my my,,, is there ANY trade(port) or ANY comodity that is even close to buyable AND sellable 😄

[cinder steppe]

let's hope it gets fixed with the new patch

[west wyvern]

How do i sell refined ore? I collected my work orders and then went to the ore seller terminal next to refinement terminals at HUR-L1, and i cannot select the source i sent it to. Does the ship need to be out of storage?

[frail roost]

Processed Food can yield about 20k profit/run in the C2

Using the Journal to know where to buy/sell

[frail roost]

Refined is sold to Area 18, New Babbage, or Lorville Trade Districts.

[west wyvern]

Oh my bad, why didn't i think of that

So then the ore seller terminals are specifically for unrefined, got it

[frail roost]

Yes

Hence "ore"

[west wyvern]

haha, yeah

[winter hazel]

where are the no question asked trading consoles at cru L5

[outer orchid]

Is there, at this point, differences in price from planet to planet when one goes for selling quantanium and stuff?

[crimson mantle]

Oh yes! The bigger the refresh rate, the higher the chance the price will be optimal; https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer?q=%257B%2522itemName%2522:%2522Quantainium%2522,%2522itemQuantity%2522:1,%2522showDetails%2522:true%257D

[golden eagle]

can u still take scu out of the roc and put it as a box onto your ship?

also can u refine roc mined material?

[coarse cape]

yes as long as its inside of your ship you can take it out

[coarse cape]

afaik no

[golden eagle]

wait so do i need to have my roc inside my ship and it automatically puts the box into the cargo grid?

[winter hazel]

where are the no question asked trading consoles at cru L5?

[coarse cape]

no you have to manually store it into a box, which you do by opening the cargo bay, going into the inventory then right clicking on the ore and press store to box, or something forgot what it exactly says. has to be inside your ship to store it

[golden eagle]

ah i see ok, thanks for the info 😄

[ripe zodiac]

Each Quantanium sells for 44 aUEC, but I see that The Prospector has only cargo hold capacity of 32 SCU. Does it mean you can only hold up to 1408 worth of aUEC on The Prospector?

[golden eagle]

no 1 scu is 1000 units

so 1 scu of cargo of quantanium is equal to 44*1000

[oak lake]

its like 1408 but 1000 times that lol

[glad trench]

damn. Thats 1.4million a prospect haul

which is 4.5 million a mole haul

[delicate girder]

If you refine mined materials, does the refinery hold the results indefinitely up to the maximum amount or does the refined product expire after a while?

Also, I assume that once Quantanium is refined, it's no longer volatile?

[delicate girder]

Wow, it this true? At 1 scu = only 44/88 aUEC (unrefined/refined) for Quantanium, I wasn't interested, but at times 1000 I'm interested.

[delicate girder]

Looks like an SCU is only 100 units.

[main saddle]

I sold my raw quantainium yesterday for 89k. I couldn't be bothered to refine it and then have to haul it somewhere to sell. Would have been more, but I lost one 100% chunk to a lag spike and Brandt was even active 😅

[delicate girder]

Yep, I've lost an average of 3 out of 4 loads so far. It's very very frustrating!

[main saddle]

oof

[delicate girder]

CIG works on new features when what they really need to work on for once it stability!

[glad trench]

Quantanium comes in micro scu

1000 quantanium aka 1000 uscu is one scu

So 32,000 quantanium per prospector

If pure

At 44 uec per uscu

Is Infact 1.4 million

Or 3 million refined

So a full load from a mole has a theoretical max value of 8.4 million auec

But u gotta be realistic and take away 10-60 percent of that in inert or other materials

Sometimes more

[delicate girder]

So, how many raw quantanium got you 89k? Did you sell that at Port Ollisar?

[glad trench]

He wuda mined 2 scu or 2000 units of quantanium

[delicate girder]

Oh, that wasn't you. My bad.

[main saddle]

I forget the quantity. It was 2 asteroids. I sold it at Mic L1. For some reason, I thought there was a bonus there, but I was mistaken.

[glad trench]

Cru l1 is the bonus

Oh I forgot to calc that into the max. One sec

[delicate girder]

1 scu seems to be 100 instead of 1000.

Taken from here: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/16204-The-Shipyard-SCU-And-Cargo-Capacity

[main saddle]

hmm ok, my old sheet has 2% bonus at Mic L1; so I wasn't crazy. But I didn't see it listed when I looked on the refinery screen.

[glad trench]

8.86 million hypothetical max per hauler

Er mole

[glad trench]

100 CScu yes

Not 100 uscu

[main saddle]

'course, I just sold it raw ore, so bonus didn't matter 😅

[delicate girder]

Ah

The all the ore prices are per uSCU?

[glad trench]

Quantanium is in micro units, not standard units (CScu) or storage units. Scu

At least that's what I've read here and a wiki

Actually the price might be per Cscu in which case it wud be 886k

However, seeing as people say they can make millions per quantum run. This dosnt seem accurate

[delicate girder]

I've always heard so far that a full prospector of quantanium is only about 140k aUEC instead of 1.4m aUEC, but I hope you're right and I'm wrong!!!

[ripe zodiac]

https://youtu.be/S3bCcZnmkJc -> guy makes 300k in a run, units are in cSCU, he has 32 SCU of Quantinum worth 280k aUEC.

3200 * 88 = 280k

So it's 100 units per SCU then. In 3.9.1 ore didn't have to be refined, it had full value.

[glad trench]

Ye idk how a lot of people say they make millions per run

[ripe zodiac]

People say they can do 2 runs per hour, that would be 600k, and they may be able to filll out more than this guy did.

[glad trench]

I also heard they are gonna change the way they calculate scu

And ahhhh that makes sense more so if they are considering a run an hour

[ripe zodiac]

I don't have mole yet, I'm 1.5m aSCU short.

I guess I could buy it for 315$, but at that price I'm not sure whenever it's worth it.

[delicate girder]

So it looks like 1 SCU is 100x the price of the ore/refined (44/88 for qunatanium for instance). This would mean the max payout for a prospector full or raw ore is 140,800 aUEC and the Mole will be above 300k due to it's bigger hold.

[main saddle]

Ok, here's a snip from one sell I had when Levski was still in.

[glad trench]

So per mole haul using CSU instead of uscu

It's 881k after costs and refined

X2 if u can get two runs per hour (which is probably hard)

Is 1.76 million

[delicate girder]

No

You can't get 881k for any raw haul in any mining ship.

[ripe zodiac]

I see 77k aUEC value, so about 160k after refining

I think I'm better doing BH for now.

[delicate girder]

@main saddlejust proved that with his snip.

By my calculations a Mole filled to the brim with RAW Qunatanium would be worth 506k if there was a team good/lucky enough to load an entire hold purely with Quantanium ... which is highly unlikely!

[main saddle]

Another one

oh, that's probably before refining was added

yeah, that's the old 88auec for raw ore

[delicate girder]

Now raw Q is only 44 aUEC.

[ripe zodiac]

I see, it looks like mining was nerfed a bit.

[delicate girder]

Nerfed by ~ half.

Unless you refine.

[main saddle]

or ROC mine and get lucky

[ripe zodiac]

True, but refining takes time, and you can loose all cargo due to 30k, and taking cargo to a planet also takes time

[main saddle]

Yeah, rn, I can't be bothered to refine 😄

[ripe zodiac]

If only I had C2 I could take a few ROC vehicles on a mining trip.

[delicate girder]

I refined a bunch of crap last night just to try some hauling. I don't care that much if I loose it.

[main saddle]

Yeah, there's that. Just to have something new to do.

[glad trench]

I roc mine

Personally

[main saddle]

For quant, i'm gonna sell the raw ore 😅

[delicate girder]

Is Quant still volatile after refined?

[glad trench]

Whenever I see a hadanite vein of like 12 diamonds

I actually cry a bit

[main saddle]

Yeah, I took my ROC out in the Nomad with matching orange paint

[glad trench]

Roc mining is the bomb

Until 30k

[main saddle]

Yeah, it's a bit unnerving

[delicate girder]

I have a Cutlass Black and it's a major pain to get a ROC in that. I hear the Nomad is easier if it doesn't pop out.

[glad trench]

The cutlass black is beautiful for the roc

I have no troubles with it

[main saddle]

Freelancer MAX is really nice for ROC

[glad trench]

Unless the ramp glitches that is

[delicate girder]

I broke the ramp on my Cuttie the first time I tried.

[glad trench]

I hear the herc fits an roc nicely

[main saddle]

the elevator on the ROC was solid this past weekend

not ROC

Nomad

[delicate girder]

The herc fits any several vehicles nicely!

The Nomad a tanky little beast if you put three good shields and three fixed weapons on it!

I had bad luck with a ROC and the Cuttie. Can the ROC break any size rock with no upgrades? The fact that you have to upgrade the mining ships and usually lose the mining upgrades on a 30k really bums me out!!!! Speaking from my experience in the Prospector so far.

Won't get a chance to test this mining again until tonight. If a ROC can break a mass 4000 rock without mods, or doesn't ever loose it's mods, I'll definitely do that this time!

[main saddle]

I finished Vanduul Swarm in a stock Nomad (solo).

Haven’t heard of mods for the ROC laser tho.

[golden eagle]

Ah that's myb. If Ur calculations are right then yea it's 100 units per scu

[golden eagle]

How do u get so much?

I roc mined for 30 Min and got Jack shit lol

Where should I mine and how do I find the smaller rocks more often?

[main saddle]

i think that was a cluster, iirc. sometimes you find 9 rocks or so in one place. like I said: lucky lol. that would have been on Arial, iirc

[golden eagle]

Ah is arial the best place to mine?

I tried some on Aberdeen and it was pretty bad

[main saddle]

its supposed to be good for Hadanite, but its hit or miss for me

[golden eagle]

Do u basically just mine a full load and turn it into a box and place it on Ur ship and then rise and repeat until u decide its time to sell at a local output on that planet?

[golden eagle]

Hm I see

[main saddle]

my last Hadanite hit was on Ita

55k worth

[golden eagle]

That seems a lot worse than just running bounties lol

I saw that some of the combat missions just pay 20k per mission...

[main saddle]

yeah. it’s a diversion

[golden eagle]

Right just for fun I guess

[main saddle]

i unlocked ERT yesterday, so 25k plus bonuses for a bounty. quicker money, but yeah I like to switch up

see something besides lagrange points 😆

[delicate girder]

I guess you can't mine Hadanite in a ship because the rocks are too small? Hadanite seems to be more profitable than Quantanium also!!!! Wow!

[main saddle]

it’s possible, but tricky. but picking all the gems up by hand is tedious

only the ROC has the extraction laser for them.

[delicate girder]

Looks like you might make more profit with 8 SCUs of of Hadanite in a ROC than you would with 32 SCUs Quantanium in a Prospector! That's crazy!

How much is one unit of raw (not sure it's refined at all) Hadanite worth in the current 3.13? A ROC can hold 8 SCUs or 800 units I assume.

[main saddle]

130 per unit

[delicate girder]

So a max of 104k aUEC per full ROC at the price.

[delicate girder]

Yep

So you don't have the refine that?

[main saddle]

nope. fly straight to the mining outpost

[delicate girder]

So can you transfer that from the ROC to the ship if you like?

[main saddle]

just leave the ROC in the ship.

[delicate girder]

Right, but in theory could you?

[main saddle]

you can box the gems , but then you need a ship with a cargo grid to be able to sell the boxes

[delicate girder]

I'm definately loading up my ROC instead of using a mining ship then. The mining ship mining is not worth it!

I started with the mining ship thinking it had to be more profitable but that looks to be not the case being that the game usually crashes on me before I get a while ship load delivered.

And because that the best non-volitile ore you can transffer with a mining ship is worth far far less than unrefined hadanite!

[main saddle]

it’s the hunting for the hadanite that takes time. find a lot of dolivine

wait.

[delicate girder]

Looks like even dolivine is worth twice the value of any ship mined ore including Quantanium!

[main saddle]

that was dolivine in my screen cap i think

so hadanite would be more

[delicate girder]

For me, all this adds up to a realization that ship mining is currently NOT the way to go.

[main saddle]

275 for hadanite

[delicate girder]

And the dolivine was 130?

Wow!

[main saddle]

yeah

[delicate girder]

Damn!

Ship mining is currently a total waste of time then!

That's totally not right but good to know!

Later tonight or tomorrow, it's definitely ROC mining for me! The ship mining I've been doing for the last couple days is bananas!

Now I just need to get my joystick bound to vehicle controls before I do this because driving vehicles with the WSAD keys really sucks IMO.

[main saddle]

i just land near the rocks so i don’t drive far 😁

but a throttle would be nice lol

[blissful oxide]

Quantanium mining is harder than hadanite, but much more profitable
Filling a Roc of Hadanite take alot of time
But, mining with Roc is safe and alot of fun though 😄

[delicate girder]

If I can get the vehicles bound to my joystick as well as I can in Elite Dangerous it will be perfect!

[delicate girder]

Binding HOTAS analogue controls in this game is such a hair trigger situation! Not nearly as polished as in Elite Dangerous in this one feature (controller key binding). Not saying that because I think Elite Dangerous is a better game. I like both of these games.

[glad trench]

Anyone know why u just can't scan some asteroids

Even tho they appear as ore

[blissful oxide]

Yeah, it happens sometimes with asteroid
No issue on planet/moon though

[ripe zodiac]

Which ship can fit multiple ROCs?

Would it be more efficient to have more than one for ROC for mining?

[pliant matrix]

If you're playing solo I'd say no need to have multiple

[ripe zodiac]

I mean if you find multiple patches of miners, you could take more instead of coming back

I don't know if there is a good ship that would fit that role.

[pliant matrix]

Also MSR or freelancer max can take two. Connie maybe three idk for sure

C2 could take I guess 5-6 maybe more 🤣

Well advantage of multi Roc crew is you'll mine node faster

[ripe zodiac]

Also should I upgrade ROC's laser? If so to which one?

[pliant matrix]

You can't upgrade it actually

[blissful oxide]

If you are talking about "Multicrew mining Rocs", but also want to also play multicrew (by that, I mean you actually play together)
Imo, the most efficient way is to:

• Have 1 MSR (or Max, but MSR's better), fit 2 rocs inside
• Have 1 ship with big scan (Terrapin)

You both scan areas (not too far), until you find a good spot.
The MSR can stop when you find 1-3 rocks.
The Terrapin will find for big chunks (4-10+ rocks).

When you find big chunks
Both go the position, unload both Rocs, then mine.
Repeat

[ripe zodiac]

I see, what is the planet that's best for ROC mining?

[blissful oxide]

I used to do this in Arial
But it was in 3.12
Dunno if that's still the best place in 3.13.1 :/

[ripe zodiac]

Do you just go randomly on Arial or to a specific place?

[blissful oxide]

random

https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Ground%2520vehicle%2522%257D
Arial seems to still be the best place

[ripe zodiac]

I see, it take a while to go to a random place without QT.

[pliant matrix]

Just don't stay near stations. Go 100-200km away

[ripe zodiac]

I tried to mine near stations, but it couldn't find anything

there seems to be no way to jump to any position on the planet, hmm

[blissful oxide]

(Aberdeen is better for spawn, but the speed rotation of the planet is too high (go night too fast), weather is also bad, very hot, ..
Arial has a bit less spawn, but the environment is far more friendly)

[ripe zodiac]

I gave up after spending 20-25m not finding anything on Aberdeen.

[magic shard]

I think that your speed while pinging does adjust probability of finding anything - weren't you just too fast?

[ripe zodiac]

I'm pinding all the time at 100%

[magic shard]

Go slow, then...

[ripe zodiac]

which is like every 10s

[ripe zodiac]

I keep finding only large rocks

[still junco]

what size can i swap my prospecto mining laser with

am i limited to size 1

[polar patio]

yes

get the lancet

[still junco]

ya got me some sweet lancet and brandt/surge/lifeline modules

now im ready to make some sweet big bucks

:))

do i overclock the Lancet

or it doesnt matter

[manic whale]

As already written, MSR, Freelancer MAX + Valkyrie

[polar patio]

i do overclock the lancet

[still junco]

can i storage back the ores on the Prospector after refining them

or do i have to get a different ship

[blissful oxide]

You need a hauler

You can rent Cutlass Black or Connie

[still junco]

alright thank you

[tepid basin]

I can usually crack any rock with a Helix. Pop a Brandt module if it's particularly fussy.

[tepid basin]

After reading up a bunch, it's a toss up with people preferring the Lancet for Quantainium

[manic whale]

I´m exited to see what will come up with release of Hull-C 🙂 It just cannot be this time like "yeah, we know that C2 Hercules should be a 100% hauler. Cant find cargo to run? Transport tanks then and dont complain" 😄

[north oyster]

Agreed. it seems trade will get a few band-aid fixes for things like the 9-Tails Lockdown but it is not until trade gets its own gameloop tied in with reputation that it will finally be able to handle the Hull series and allow the C2 to do more than carry tonks.

[north oyster]

The primary reason for the Lancet is that it gives you the 40% increased green zone. I used the Helix almost exclusively until the last change in the mining mechanics. Since I was use to mining Quantainium with the Helix, switching to the Lancet has been crazy easy work. The slow collection can be overcome with the stampede if you have to have it, otherwise with the Surge you can handle most any rock or asteroid in the 'verse.

I'm still a fan of the Helix for the most part but will use the Lancet for Quan. I wish we could return to being able to swap the laser head out in the field (and refresh consumables)

[glad trench]

What do people think about the fltr xl

The 20 percent inert reduction seems nice

[north oyster]

My only issue is that you lose components if you have to claim your ship. I don't really mind that with consumables but when you spend 20, 000 aUEC on a component, that adds up fast

[manic whale]

Yes, thats a "little" risky for me, cause I use passive modules only 😄

[glad trench]

The passives can save money in the long run if u get enuf and nothing bad happens

[manic whale]

Sure and with Hangars module disabled, there´s no workaround to get the modules back from lost ship. ...and thats OK with me, as long as you lost your ship by crashing or being shot down, but not cause of server crash

[north oyster]

I see the passive components still as a Tier 0 implementation. I've tested them but I've not replaced any that I've lost from 30Ks

I was initially excited about them but PTU testing let me know the impact wasn't worth it

[manic whale]

its little bit stupid, that you dont lose mining head, but do those passive modules firmly attached to it 🙂

[manic whale]

I saw a video test about stacking passive modules and it worked. Would be sweet to have on MOLE a filtering turret (3xFLTR-XL), melting turret to lower resistance and power turret.

[glad trench]

If they made us loose a helix to bs. Roc mining wud be the only viable thing on alpha

[glad trench]

That truly is a good fucking idea

[manic whale]

the Helix+Lancet combo is well known, but with passive sub-components, you can put in the turret just anybody without a knowledge of active ones.

[blissful oxide]

btw, about passive one
Do we have to activate them ?

[glad trench]

I have the shittiest luck with finding good roids

[manic whale]

no

[tepid basin]

I can hook you up, we can get buff together.

[glad trench]

U know where the good ass roids are? Mine are always like 65-95 inert

[tepid basin]

I am making a joke about Steroids but my suggestion is Aaron Halo

[blissful oxide]

Lyria
There is a bunch a Quanta there
You can easily fill half a Mole each run

[glad trench]

Space or in atmosphere

[blissful oxide]

atmo

[glad trench]

Surprising

[manic whale]

wow, current capacity in refinery is just 800% today? Im used to see like 80000% 😄

[blissful oxide]

On what station ?
Arc-L1 it's getting bigger and bigger saddly x)

[manic whale]

CRU-L1. Could it be cause of server location? I was on AUS just few mins ago. ...its early morning there now, so..

[north oyster]

"Cargo Refactor" touches everything ...

[tame elbow]

beta release

it's almost hilarious to imagine

[inland sorrel]

What’s the best consumable to use with a lancet

Because it’s really hard to mine larger rocks

[chrome cloak]

How's the connie aquilla at transporting the ROC or ROC-DS?

[paper night]

It's fine

You can fit the ROC in a Freelancer and Cutlass

Tho I found it easier in the Cutlass, can actually walk around it if you move it right

With the Freelancer I had to go out the side door if I needed to get out for any reason.

[coarse cape]

If you park it closer to one side it’s a lot easier

[steady willow]

ROC DS is the dual seater version, right? What's that even for?

[coarse cape]

It’s pretty useful teaching players simple mining basics

It also has increased cargo capacity and a bit longer range for the laser

And iirc it has a wider wheel base

[chrome cloak]

So it might not fit in the Aquila

[coarse cape]

It can fit

[chrome cloak]

Did they fix the vehicle elevator problem?

[coarse cape]

It’s about the width of an ursa

And yes they fixed it

[chrome cloak]

Oh awesome

Thank you @coarse cape

[worthy scroll]

Box mission Iron Man challenge. Quantum sensitive missions, on foot.

[agile tulip]

Most efficeint way of getting money?

[jolly bronze]

ERT Group Bounties

[formal meteor]

Do you have to grind up to ERT missions? OR can anyone join them?

[coarse cape]

for solo yes, but if youre playing with someone who has them they can share them to party members and share the cash reward

@formal meteor

[delicate girder]

When mining in a ROC, can you transfer the contents of the ROC to the ship when full and keep mining?

[glad trench]

When was this lol

[oak lake]

Lmao i wish

[manic whale]

Only by doing cargo box out from the ROC and bringing that into your transport ship

[blissful oxide]

Easy way is Bounty missions
Most profitable is Quantanium mining (but also the hardest)

[north oyster]

I saw the quote during SaltEmike's Monday review yesterday

[north oyster]

I would think that if we consider time/effort/return that mining with the ROC is also very viable

[west wyvern]

I don't mind throwing in multiple quick and easy quartz work orders from time to time but sometimes I'm going out of my way to get a full work order of more rare stuff

That said, how is roc mining

I'm up to my first 900k uaec and I was told cutty black and roc is a great investment

[north oyster]

One thing you can do is buy the ROC (172K aUEC) and rent the cutty. I would recommending buying a Freelancer MAX as the ROC carrier, it is fantastic.

[west wyvern]

What's the storage capacity of the freelancer max

[north oyster]

120 SCU, so it would do great to take refined items to market

[west wyvern]

Wow uh that's 2.5x the prospector isn't it?

[north oyster]

more like 4x

[west wyvern]

I can't remember, I rented the prospector for 3 days and haven't used it since I'm grinding bounties. I guess I remember the prospector holding 48 for some reason

[north oyster]

32

Yeah, the rental isn't a great profit. It is really good for learning the ropes and making small income BUT the same dollars makes you tons more for renting ROC and Cutty (and buy Pembroke Armor) for less than 55K aUEC

One trip in ROC is worth approx 200K aUEC

Aberdeen and Arial are best spots for hadanite

[west wyvern]

How much is the freelancer in game?

[north oyster]

about 2.2m

for the MAX

[west wyvern]

Can't find out how to tell from the website, and thanks

I suppose doubling my initial grind isn't too bad now that I'm subbed and using the vanduul scythe to smash out vhrt bounties in a minute or two

[blissful oxide]

Yup, ROC is also really great
A bit less than bounty though ?
Stopped ROC since I have a Mole 😅

[north oyster]

couple of tips when mining with the ROC:

1. Go SLOW, ping at 100% because the hadanite deposits only show up when you are within 2000 meters of them.
2. Seek hadanite, it more than 60% more valuable than dolivine and easier to mine than dolivine.
3. When you land, ONLY turn off the engines (letter "i" eye) and leave ship on, that way the ship recharges your fuel and you will never run low on hydrogen.
4. I would recommend always walking down the ramp before driving down the ramp. This stabilizes the ramp to planet surface. Not always an issue, but it can be one.
5. Never mine near outpost. If any thing, dive down from the OM-1 orbital marker or any other daytime marker.
6. It is ALWAYS sunshine below the OM-1
7. Arial and Aberdeen are two best spots for hadanite
8. there is more but brain is blank

[blissful oxide]

Where do you mine ?
Arial ?

[north oyster]

I mix them up, between the Prospector and the ROC for change of pace. I don't "always do what is most profitable" because I want to have fun, not a grind. The ROC can pull 200K aUEC per trip. And you sell on the moon you are at. So I do like it. The Prospector (also MOLE) is more relaxing sometimes than ROC

[blissful oxide]

I prefer Mole mining, cause the job is more "complete"
With refinery and all
It also gives me an occasion to use my M2 😄

[north oyster]

Aberdeen and Arial

[north oyster]

I agree, nothing else I can use my C2 for because trade is dead atm

[blissful oxide]

ROC mining is really cool, using vehicule is really rare, and it gives it an opportunity to do it

[north oyster]

I agree, I really like that part of the immersion

[blissful oxide]

Nah, it's not dead
It's really profitable if you do souvenirs/fireworks
It's also the easiest job

But.. wel.. I need more chalenge than "going A to B" and repeat x)

[north oyster]

Those are pretty much over now since ILW is over. No demand for fireworks, etc. Now the journal is worthless until the 9-Tails Lockdown happens

[blissful oxide]

Ohhhh, true
Forgot about that x)

[north oyster]

I have moved food and scrap (full loads) but that's about it

Scrap is about a 20k and same for processed food. The risk for scrap at PO isn't really worth it, though I normally have the shields overclocked

[west wyvern]

Hey tripper Dan thanks for the tips! I screenshotted everything so I can use it once I get set up

[north oyster]

There are a few other tips that don't come to mind. The OM-1 is my secret sauce tip

That works on ANY planet

When MicroTech use to be 100% Hadanite, I use to dive down from OM-1 there, that was AWESOME mining

[blissful oxide]

Damn, that's a life changer for Aberdeen

[north oyster]

Yeah, tell me about it!! I've never seen a darker place than Aberdeen

[blissful oxide]

yeah, and his rotation is too damn fast
even if you go in the "day place", it will become night in like 15m

[west wyvern]

Lol I haven't stood on any other non-city planet except Aberdeen

Assumed all of them wee that dark

So I've never mined with consumables, do you recommend any consumables with hadonite or does it not need any

[north oyster]

PRO-TIP: If you dive down in a Prospector and you're approaching speeds of 1000 km, flip the ship and get ready to do a burn to stop. As soon as you see the atmosphere dials, start the burn

ROC is a full package, no extra parts needed

I would recommend turning off the ROC engines while mining. This preserves the cooler (which can and does fail)

There is currently no keybind to turn off the engine, so you have to hold F and locate engine switch on the bottom left side of screen

[blissful oxide]

I'd also add, for the ship
That shutting down the engine also prevent the ship to fly away due to wind

[north oyster]

Agreed, fortunately for Arial and Aberdeen, the freakishly strong winds are not a common thing

[blissful oxide]

Happened to me one time
The ship didn't "fly away", like a km
But just 1m height
Which prevent me to get back in the ship x)

[north oyster]

Yes, that happened to me on Microtech more than once

That happening doing a pizza delivery on a skyscraper means end of game, LOL

I'm toying with upgrading my game package Cutlass Black to the Freelancer MAX. For what I do and my game style, the MAX would put me back to production quicker than the cutty. Cutlass Black is the perfect Swiss Army Knife ship in the game, that's for sure. Good at everything, Great at nothing.

[west wyvern]

Yeah I'll end up owning both at some point

But I want to mine and I guess make it passive income thru refinement

Just gotta remember patches can wipe refinery sometimes

[north oyster]

I'm building my fleet that I "own" in real life dollars based on what I will do when the "GREAT WIPE" happens

I do own a ROC but I look at it as an LTI token as much as anything

[blissful oxide]

I started the game with a Freelancer Max
I loved it
But now.. MSR ❤️

[north oyster]

You're good then

I bought the MSR in-game. I had one as a loaner while I was waiting on my C2 Starlifter

I did find a new found fondness for the CAT also, since it was a loaner.

But loving my Hercules C2 Starlifter, such a fun ship

But DANG she's a thirsty ship, she can slam down that Hydrogen like nobody's business.

[blissful oxide]

Yeah, I'm doing insurance fraud to fill my M2 😂

[north oyster]

LOL, that's an option

I try to keep tabs on cost for when it does matter, though the model will certainly change. I know a scrap/processed foods run will cost about 5K in hydrogen/Quantum fuel. I only earn about 40K, so my fuel cost is over 12% cost against the earnings

[quasi cloak]

So from I understand is if I buy a ship in game it will get wiped at the next reset but if I buy one with a pledge I will be able to keep it is this correct?

[worthy scroll]

Maybe. We don't know when wipes will happen, or what they will wipe when they do.

But you do keep pledge ships.

[west wyvern]

A way to look at it is wipe insurance I guess. You keep the ship if they have to wipe the ships

[north oyster]

The game has instituted "persistence". When I started playing last year (around first of June), you would loose any ships you bought with aUEC with each patch. Then they added persistence to the ships and also returned any ships that you had purchased in the previous couple of patches.

The "Great Wipe" I am talking about is when CIG will reset all players accounts back to Pledge status. This is coming sometime, when is anyone's speculation.

[north oyster]

It will happen when Alpha 4.0 version of the game comes out OR when they change a core dynamic of the game that CIG wants to track from a new, clean state

[still junco]

https://tenor.com/view/heavybreathing-cat-gif-6111353

[quasi cloak]

So I just thinking of buying a prospector with Auec

[tepid basin]

LTP Reset, as it's more officially known to my knowledge. Is rumored to be in the next update when Personal Inventory becomes implemented.

[north oyster]

I agree, I additionally think the version of the Alpha could also change this year also

[quasi cloak]

So it’s a crap shoot on whether you keep your ship or not . I might just do a pledge for it instead

[north oyster]

As DC mentions, The LTP Reset will wipe ALL accounts back to original pledge status (aka - what you own with real world purchases). That is coming, but no one knows when.

I don't see 3.14 being that wipe, then again

[worthy scroll]

Never know.

[quasi cloak]

Yea I will buy it with auec if I lose then I replace it with a pledge one thanks guys for clearing that up. I just joined this game two weeks ago and still figuring it out

[north oyster]

LOL, you will see the "sources" of all this aUEC vanish too

That aUEC came from exploits (which CIG doesn't worry about as a rule in the Alpha state). You will see ebay aUEC vanish and the price of those who actually "have" credits go WAY up.

[north oyster]

You will do great figuring it out, even without the extra credits from exploits.

[tepid basin]

Yeah, plus anyone who bought aUEC on the website will have a huge headstart

But I mean, I can jump in and straight do Bounty Hunting

[north oyster]

I do wish they would return Deliveries back to a usable game play. The current model is crap compared to the same time last year.

I don't see BH being the "meta" of earnings that is now any more than when Trade was king. Or mining hadanite, etc. That will be changed in a big way and rebalanced.

[tepid basin]

Nah see. Bounty Hunting isn't gonna be Meta for me to get money. It's to get the money I need to get more money xD

I am an industrialist at heart. Mining is my gig usually

[tame elbow]

interesting interpretation of the word "meta"

[north oyster]

True true, just going with the flow and not being proper term fanatic. As a recovering analytical, this is part of my therapy.

[north oyster]

I concur and likewise, I'm the same. Since I'm not too hot with PvE (worst with PvP), I've fashioned my RL fleet to reflect my play style so that I don't have to focus on combat too much. That's just me

[tepid basin]

Alright. What's ur fleet?

Lets hear it xD

[north oyster]

Okie Dokie ---

• Drake Cutlass Black (game package which I will upgrade to a freelancer MAX)
• Graycat ROC (yes I do own one, LTI token as much as anything but serves the function of getting the earnings going fast in game)
• MISC Prospector
• Origin 325a
• RSI Aurora ES (referral LTI ship and "token")
• Drake Corsair
• Crusader Hercules C2 Starlifter
• Tonk (so that I'll have something to do with the C2 until cargo gets fixed)

[tepid basin]

My Turn xD

Apollo Medivac (Medical Gameplay)
Ares Ion (Big Pew Pew)
Connie Phoenix Emerald (Raw Sex Appeal)
Archimedes Emerald (Matching buddy)
Crucible (Repair)
Banu Merchantman (Cargo Hauling)
Orion (Mining)
Pisces Expedition (Carrack Buddy)
Carrack Expedition (Do I have to say why?)
San Tok Yai (Alien Pew Pew)
Redeemer (Group Pew Pew)
Vanguard Sent (See Carrack Explanation)
Eclipse (Stealth)
Super Hornet Heartseeker (Fighter)

[north oyster]

I'm a baby seal in the club, certainly you're not, LOL

The Orion and Hull C are on my wish list

I do have a few CCUs tying in the vulture, Ares (both) and other ships.

[tepid basin]

If you wanna hop in any of my ships, lemme know

But they're all LTI. Soooooo I have a serious problem with LTI

[north oyster]

Orion? LOL

I appreciate the offer. I'm actually sitting really good myself with in-game purchased ships. A year of heavy mining and trading has left me with a wealth that I wish I had in REAL LIFE

[tepid basin]

Yeah when it comes out. You're more than welcome to crew her 😉

[tribal bloom]

how much you paying per hour

[north oyster]

Most certainly. I'm seeing the reputation system having the biggest impact on Trading but it will be interesting to see how Mining shapes out on the huge ships for selling the cargo

I'll work for the training, LOL

[still junco]

why isnt my prospector able to jettison its cargo

i even tried changing keybindgs yet to no use

[tepid basin]

Well I usually offer the same deal to all my crew members. You get to choose between a percentage of the sale or a flat rate. No changing your answer. But until I do a run or two in the Orion, I can't tell you exactly how much I'd pay.

[north oyster]

It can only eject critical cargo

And only when the alarm starts

I WISH it would work anytime and when you want to flush the contents

[still junco]

so if i extract 0.01 quantanium

i can still eject

right? or such a low amount wont ever go critical

[north oyster]

Yes, you'd have to wait a few minutes until the Yellow alarm started

I would assume that any amount of volatile cargo would work

[still junco]

also, did you ever mess around with the -15% iner material consumable?

bonus seems nice to use, but also looks expensive at 17k

[north oyster]

I did in the PTU, it wasn't a huge difference because I try to mine only high percentage ore chunks to begin with

Remember, you will loose that investment with a 30k or have to claim the ship

The passive components do NOT persist

they are just like the consumables, in that respect

[still junco]

oh alright

[spring sentinel]

Does anyone know how to sell a lot of WiDow quickly, I bought like 6 SCU and only can sell like .05 or less at a time.

[tepid basin]

You can't

That is the thing about drugs. You can only sell miniscule amounts at a time.

That is their drawback in exchange for their high profit margins.

[spring sentinel]

Gallog website was wrong then, it said you could sell 6 SCu and .1 refresh/minute

[tepid basin]

Don't take anything any website gives you as fact

[spring sentinel]

Can you recommend any routes for Freelancer Max?

Even though every good route always is empty because it is good

[tepid basin]

Nope. I don't do cargo hauling. Not worth it right now.

You're better off Mining or Bounty hunting.

You wanna use your Lancer max. Rent a prospector. Go Mining for Laranite on Yela. Get that shit refined at ARC-L1 or HUR-L1. Pick that shit up in your Lancer Max and sell it somewhere.

[spring sentinel]

True tho

Bounty hunting works well with her, 4 S3 gimbal mantis gatlings and you can easily kill AI

[manic whale]

What Trade Centre is buying shit?

[spring sentinel]

Good Idea

[spring sentinel]

you mean drugs?

[manic whale]

no, I mean shit #industrial-professions message

[spring sentinel]

lmao

[tepid basin]

If you own a prospector, that's probably even better.

[north oyster]

There are some nice options in the arcCorp area from wela to area 18 hauling Asitine

[willow girder]

https://youtu.be/4mpfeLnGIzs @coarse cape ^^

[coarse cape]

Nice

[granite lichen]

Hi, just got a prospector and got a few questions. Is it worth it to refine the materials? If so, whats the best station to be based of, and what materials i sould mine? And well, can i make more than with the roc?

[tame elbow]

refined materials pay twice as much but you have to wait for them to refine and run them in a cargo ship to a major city. If you don't care about time efficiency then yes.

the best station to refine at depends on what you're trying to refine. CRU-L1 gives a +4% bonus for Quantainium for example

ship mining is slower paced than ROC mining. a skilled ROC miner will usually earn more efficiently

[blissful oxide]

You need a hauler to transport refined materials
The Prospector/Mole can't transport them

[granite lichen]

and how much time can be an order waiting to be picked up?

[tame elbow]

anywhere from 2 hours to 2 days

[granite lichen]

because i have a carrack and maybe mining, and then storing everything on it may be worth it

[blissful oxide]

a skilled ROC miner will usually earn more efficiently
Dunno about this
A skilled quanta miner is the most profitable profession atm ^^

and how much time can be an order waiting to be picked up?
Can go up to 5 days with Mole

[tame elbow]

oh I'm sorry, waiting to be picked up

I miread

orders don't expire

[granite lichen]

oh, nice

[tame elbow]

I've had some refined orders sitting around for weeks lmao

[blissful oxide]

Just be carefull with patchs
Some patchs wipe jobs in refinery 😅

[granite lichen]

aaaand, what refining method would you suggest?

[blissful oxide]

Dinix or Ferrox
(Dinix is very slow, cost less, best yield)

(Ferrox has same yield, is ~3x faster, but cost x2)

[granite lichen]

okay, perfect then, thank you!

just one last question, you cant ditch innert materials or worthless ore like aluminium yet no?

[blissful oxide]

You can't

[granite lichen]

okay, ty

[blissful oxide]

During refining though, you can choose what you want to refine

[granite lichen]

yeah and at that point you can choose not to refine the "bad" ore

[blissful oxide]

Yup, so you don't pay to refine it
Nor loose cargo space

[granite lichen]

nice

[manic whale]

OMG, put some passive modules on that Lancet. It´ll kill that sound 😄

[willow girder]

xD

It was in 3.12. I dont go after quantanium anymore. Love the Helix with 3x FTLR-XL Modules and mining everythign but quantanium.

[tepid basin]

Heyo, mind if I dm you?

[north oyster]

A full Prospector of Quan is about 150k to 200k refined (per load). A full ROC is about 200k per load. Turn around for ROC is faster, Pile up of refinery jobs is a bigger payout at once for the ship mining. They are basically equal

[granite lichen]

no problem

[blissful oxide]

But how much time do you need to fill up a Roc ?

Cause I need 20-30m to get 40-70scu of Quanta 😅

[north oyster]

200 gems, usually two or three stops

[tepid basin]

Of how many rocks per stop?

[north oyster]

roughly 20 gems per ore

wait, not sure that's the right number total for ROC to hold

can't remember the ratio atm

[blissful oxide]

I just retried the ROC, cause.. I love using vehicule, and filled a M2 with Quanta recently and want to do something else
I will see how much I made ^^

[north oyster]

I know how much you made, I did the same with a CAT (before it glitched out)

But that's 30+ trips for a Prospector

[manic whale]

Im using Prospector+Lancet+passives exclusively now. I dont have an advantage of active ones cause of that, so have to find a "g-spot" on the rocks most of the time where they seem to be softer=filling the bar quicker not only by moving the mining head , but whole ship also. I cant see me doing that in a MOLE, climbing down-into cockpit-down-into...

[north oyster]

4M to over 5M easy with full C2

[blissful oxide]

No I mean, I just mined with ROC, and will see how much I made during that time
Took me 1h to mine
(but wasn't focus, could made x3 I think if I was really into it, and with a bit of luck, that next time I won't need to HDMS to spawn vehicule, etc..)

[north oyster]

My ship has been glitching out and blowing up when I still have 13 minutes on the timer, so I've stepped away from Quan mining for a bit

[north oyster]

Ah, ok, gotcha

[north oyster]

need to leave one slot open for that little extra love tap

[blissful oxide]

80k x)
Well, as said, that was diffitively a "bad run" since I had to spawn vehicule, and wasn't especially lucky with rocks spot I found
But even with that, I couldn't do x10 that amount, with same time

It's definitively profitable, especially if you become "expert" to it
But no way to be more profitable than mining quanta (at same level of expertise)

It's so chill though, and using vehicules is even more awesome since they remade the "how vehicule handle"

[manic whale]

Im not looking for a solution, cause theres just no problem 🙂 I like to MOLE in multicrew, Prospector is enough for me to have fun, Im not on aUEC hunt anymore

[blissful oxide]

Beside the money earn
I use Mole because he's fucking sexy 😄

[north oyster]

I rarely do what is most profitable, I do what is fun and profitable. So I swap up between ROC/Prospector/Scrap runs/etc

I ran the C2 scrap to the DMZ of PO, then ran Food from Celin to Area18. Only about 45K but a fun run

[manic whale]

MOLE is great. It brings back memories seeing 1ch0s video, how we tried once to communicate over the freaking sound of 100% running Lancets 😄

[north oyster]

Sometimes I hop in my MAX and run Astertine in the ArcCorp area for fun

[blissful oxide]

I wish, someday they make another mining ship
Cause, I really don't like the look of the Prospector x)

But.. that would be useless stuff x)

[north oyster]

Orion

[manic whale]

Vulture and of course Reclaimer will be great "mining" ships

[north oyster]

Prospector follows the disign language of MISC pretty closely, so beside it killing me when I get onboard, it's not a bad looking ship

[blissful oxide]

Orion is a bit big ^^
Was thinking about something between Prospector and Mole
Or a Prospector like

Beside Freelancer
I'm not a fan of Misc

[manic whale]

Greycat Cydnus 😄

[north oyster]

Love my MAX, that's for sure. Best RORO for the ROC hands down

Drake should make a Mining machine ... that'd work

[manic whale]

That the pirates would have finally a proper job? 😄

[north oyster]

LOL 🤣 I know, right!

Can't wait for my Corsair, even though exploration isn't in game I do like that she'll be loaded to bear with some nice guns 🙂

[manic whale]

Looks like everybodys in love with Corsair 🙂

[still junco]

is there a place that buys Quantanium better than the rest of cities

or do all cities buy at the same price

[tepid basin]

MSR for that over here

[glad trench]

Imagine the drake cutlass but the turret is replaced with a mining head

[tepid basin]

Tho I am really looking forward to possibly replacing my MSR with the new alien hauler coming soon

[glad trench]

Is it just a freighter

I think I'ma upgrade my cutlass to an msr

[tepid basin]

Yeah but it's a smaller one similar to the MSR, I want it.

Alien ships are my jazz

[north oyster]

MSR is ok, but the MAX is much more compact and works better for me. I keep the MSR, Valkyrie and the cutlass on stand-by to haul the ROC if the MAX has to be claimed.

The Hydrogen scoops on the MAX are best in industry. I never dip below 98% Hydrogen fuel when mining with the ROC

[tame elbow]

I also prefer the MAX

[north oyster]

Especially since they tweaked the thrusters on her, it is awesome

[tepid basin]

I might consider that. I don't intend to use my MSR for Data Running.

Gonna wait until I get my buyback token back

[north oyster]

I haven't used mine yet. I have a few LTI tokens on hold. Might spare the Cutlass Black and just convert an LTI to the MAX

[tepid basin]

I am looking to replace my MSR eventually

but haven't decided with what yet so gonna wait until I get my store cred buyback token back or until Alien week for that new medium sized hauler.

I don't see myself doing data running. I might do the Freelancer Max but I dunno.

[north oyster]

I'm not going to expand too much more (famous last words, I know). I bought an MSR ingame and also had access to it before as one of the loaners for the Hercules C2. It dawned on me earlier from you and I chatting that the MAX is much more suitable for me than the Cutlass Black. So that is one change coming to the fleet.

I probably won't do that until the great game reset that is coming.

[tepid basin]

I just don't like the Cutlass black personally

I hate drake.

and what was said that changed ur mind? 0.0

Shit, if I gave drake the middle finger without knowing it. I really got a problem

[north oyster]

I can't hate Drake and I'm an owner of the Corsair and an in-game CAT. What changed my mind was evaluating what will put me in the profit margin the quickest after the Reset. The MAX is a better hauler for the SCU from the Prospector and also a better hauler for the ROC. So a few extra dollars makes it the perfect choice over the Cutty.

[tepid basin]

I own a Carrack

Case Closed there

[north oyster]

LOL, the Carrack is the standard by far. I got one in-game and really enjoy taking it out for a spin every now and then. When exploration does come online I'm pretty sure my Corsair will become a Carrack eventually

I just like the thought of pilot controlled guns despite the fact I'm not good with them.

[tepid basin]

I bought a carrack without getting in one in game

because...... Well....

[north oyster]

because it is a Carrack!!

[tepid basin]

No.... I saw it's design and adored it and already had a name in mind

Ahem...

[north oyster]

LOL, pure awesomeness for sure

[west wyvern]

Thought that said shampoo

[manic whale]

Yeah, Im seeing Corsair as an exploration ship - you jump from lets say Kraken down to planet or moon and do your thing. Carrack is for me an expedition ship, independent, self sustaining "unit"

[north oyster]

very good assessment. Would be nice if the Corsair would be a more complete package but we are talking about a Drake ship

[manic whale]

Freelancer DUR + Aquila are described as expedition also, but I would rather roam around for a month in Carrack being not a huge fan of close spaces 🙂

[tepid basin]

Carrack has a lot of close spaces tho, don't it?

[manic whale]

its DUR/Aquila noodle-space against medbay,large hab area, mess hall...

[manic whale]

..I knew it, that the Kraken+Corsair wasnt my idea 😄 https://youtu.be/JHbZ5CHzo9I?t=199

[tepid basin]

The drones on the carrack will be awesome

[tepid basin]

I suppose that is true. The carrack feels like there is a ton packed into that bitch.

For it's size it feels like every inch is used well.

I

[manic whale]

Yes, you can dislike the exterior, the pointy small "head", fat belly.., but the interior package is just 👌

[tepid basin]

Oh, no. I love the exterior

The 890J is hideous imo and so poorly utilized. It feels smaller than it should be.

[manic whale]

With 890J I always feel like I need to wear a suit going in

[steady willow]

I woulda shelled out for a Carrack if it had good pilot guns.

Instead I'm waiting for the Corsair

The C2 is a good cargo hauler that still feels fairly homey. Just for you and a friend or two, but it's practical, liveable, carries a lot and has adequate armament with good shields.

But the Carrack fits more utility into its space for sure

[manic whale]

I want to use the multicrew ships with real ppl in the future, not equipped with AI blades, so I´m not currently interested in them = not putting real money in it and see it as a group in-game goal.

[steady willow]

i have to communicate with humans as part of my job and resent it bitterly so after work i do not want to have to communicate with humans

gib blades pls

"lf crew" lol no my legion of unthinking robot slaves shall do my bidding

[tepid basin]

I bought a Redeemer for that

I don't want pilot guns for my exploration ship.

[manic whale]

I'm a member of gaming clan for about 10 years now, so Im used to play with ppl and SC is a game some of us are looking for, but sadly as I enjoy the alpha game myself, I cannot recommend it to the others yet to fully hop in. So my solo reporter role continues here 😀

[steady willow]

I do

[tepid basin]

Fair enough. You are allowed your own opinions.

[steady willow]

that's like, the main thing i want on a long range ship

to see sights and then shoot them

The Redeemer does look cool tho

[iron badge]

What do you expect from these drones , what will they be able to do

[tepid basin]

They have been confirmed to at minimal, repair the Carrack itself.

https://starcitizen.fandom.com/wiki/M3-A_Multifunction_Space_Drone

[worthy scroll]

Is mining much different than it was a year ago? Figured I might get back into that.

After I save up enough to buy a Prospector anyway.

[blissful oxide]

Mining is much more deep now

With refinery, bigger rock, sub-components, etc..

[worthy scroll]

Hmm

[blissful oxide]

It's the most complete job atm

and only x)

(you can do tons of money with Bounty hunting too
But it's not as complete, and AI can barely give any response due to overloaded server :/
But you can gain lots of aUEC)

[worthy scroll]

Bounty hunting is what I've been doing, but I got bored of it looong ago.

[blissful oxide]

Did you do it after they added reputation system ?

Cause it's very different from what we had

[worthy scroll]

Yeah, I'm only talking about since I came back to the game a week or two ago.

[blissful oxide]

ohh ok

[worthy scroll]

I had a Prospector around a year ago and liked the mining, found it relaxing.

Figured I'd try that again because combat isn't something I'm really interested in.

[blissful oxide]

It sure is !
You can try mining with Roc too
It's a bit different, and you use ground vehicule

[steady willow]

The Prospector is pretty fun, actually. Especially planetside.

Nice views, cool sounds, actually a really neat looking little ship up close.

[worthy scroll]

That's what I used to do, just scoot around moons looking for the good stuff.

[steady willow]

I love the 1950s-looking silver exterior and the cozy interior.

[worthy scroll]

I just have to gind so I can buy a Prospector.

What's a good Prospector haul these days? I remember before if you hit over 70k on a run that was pretty badass.

[blissful oxide]

I love the new armor with the Mole

https://preview.redd.it/38v54lyveq271.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a9e87aed40c448b4615e5aa5832fc0dabe6dbe2c

It just match perfectly 😄

[tribal bloom]

i wish they would fix the helmet so i can wear the full set

[worthy scroll]

Oh the orange one does look good. I skipped on that one because the pics of it on the store didn't look that great.

Helix still the only head to get for the Prospector?

[blissful oxide]

Even if it did, it doesn't really fit for Mining 😅

But for Bounty Hunter, many will use it I guess

[tribal bloom]

good point

[glad trench]

A lot prefer Lancet

[worthy scroll]

Oh, well that's different then.

[north oyster]

Yes, the Lancet is really good for Quantainium because of the 40% zone increase and also the throttle response (Helix has a 50% delay on throttle response for some odd reason)

[worthy scroll]

I remember that from before. I just got used to it.

Figured it was server lag lol.

[blissful oxide]

It also has very great stability
So it doesn't do insane curve in a second ^^

[worthy scroll]

Well, maybe I can get some grinding in for cash, servers are being naughty today.

[blissful oxide]

What issue did you get ?

[worthy scroll]

Got out to my bounty and then 30k. Got back on and just really bad lag.

[north oyster]

I think I've seen more 30ks since Invictus Week than during the event

[worthy scroll]

Same. During the event I think I had two. After the event I can barely get anything done anymore. Kinda why I reinstalled the other space game a couple days ago.

[blissful oxide]

It's so weird
It's like player base is cut in 2 parts since 3.13.1
1/2 of players experience alot of 30k
And the other half never got any since

[glad trench]

To my knowledge. Lancet can bust most rocks naked as well

[worthy scroll]

Oh, nice.

Last time I mined, if you weren't using a Helix you were doing it wrong.

[glad trench]

People still use helix

[worthy scroll]

Man the game really doesn't want me to play today. 30k, bad server lag, now trapped in an elevator.

I had been mostly been free of those issues since coming back to the game.

[whole fable]

ya'll do trading cargo runs in this update?

[worthy scroll]

Oh wow I still have my Helix in my inventory from back then.

[steady willow]

Wait, why would you use the Lancet over the Helix?

Just the control delay? I didn't find it very hard to compensate for, so if it's just a comfort thing I can probably stick to the Helix

[north oyster]

The Lancet, even though it is lower power, offers some serious positives including a 40% larger charge zone for busting.

[steady willow]

Larger charge zone?

[north oyster]

I had previously used Helix exclusively for a year but the Lancet makes it much easier.

The Green Zone

[steady willow]

oh

nahhhh the helix was really easy to use

super simple

need all the power i can get

[north oyster]

Try it on Quantainium 🙂

[steady willow]

i have it's not difficult

it's harder to find the ore than mine it once you get the hang of it imo

but i'm also using an analog lever to do it so i'd probably feel differently if i was using a mousewheel or something

the lancet does seem practical

[north oyster]

Like I said, I've used the Helix exclusively since I started playing last June, and I can bust any rock on the 'verse with it. But using the Lancet makes it super simple for Quantainium

Same, I use the slide on my joystick

The 50% lag that the Helix has makes it a hassle, but we get use to it also

That's the one thing that makes using the Lancet odd from those who have used the Helix so much is that the Lancet's power response is instant instead of delayed like the Helix

[steady willow]

Makes sense. Don't you have to settle for smaller rocks, though?

[north oyster]

No, not with Surge

[steady willow]

You can use Surge with Helix, can't you?

[north oyster]

Yes

I don't have to very often, only rocks near 8k

[steady willow]

It just seems like you're trading power for ease of use, which isn't wrong or anything but doesn't seem like it'd be worth it for me

[worthy scroll]

I picked up a Lancet anyway, even though I already had a Helix. Now if only the servers would stop having seizures so I could try something.

[steady willow]

Ah yes another data point let me know what you think lol

I might try the Lancet if I go out mining again, but since it's apparently the hour of the Bounty Hunter I've been doing that

[north oyster]

I wish we could change the laser heads out in the field like we could a few patches back. That was so nice to be able to equip consumables and change lasers

[north oyster]

it will feel odd if you are use to the Helix. Took me a little bit to get use to it

[worthy scroll]

Have a rotating thing that could have different heads on it.

Like the big high end CNC milling machines.

[north oyster]

LOL, love that idea

[worthy scroll]

I think this is one of those days I'll be spending the whole time trying to play instead of actually playing.

[north oyster]

that's been my days about 50% of the time. Yesterday was an odd day, it was stable and clean

I had just filled my C2 up with scrap at Area18 and was getting ready to go to the DMZ at PO but the server bottomed out a couple of times. Bailed and left her in storage for now

[worthy scroll]

I'm still trying to outfit this Prospector, but the servers are fighting me every step of the way.

[north oyster]

also take off the gimbals/guns to save pwr

[worthy scroll]

Ah yeah

[north oyster]

I always overclock the laser head too, just for good measure

except for the horrible OEM laser head, the stock Prospector will do pretty good. I do normally upgrade all the components to Class 1 industrial (it does make for a hot signature though)

[steady willow]

It was SO nice yesterday, baffling

I was BHing expecting a 30k any second and basically had 4-5 hours uninterrupted playtime

[worthy scroll]

That's basically what I'm doing, just putting all the big chonk items on it.

[worthy scroll]

Finally got the ship ready to do some mining and it's practically time I have to head to bed lol.

[worthy scroll]

Finally found a use for the two stage trigger on my left stick. Stage 1 for scan, stage 2 for ping.

Ok, how in the hell are you supposed to mine when you just get constantly blown around...

[tepid basin]

Sorry. Call me dumb. Is there a seperate hot key to scan an object you're looking at?

Because every time I go mining in my Mole or MSR with my ROC (Example but I know they can be identified via color) I need to get into the laser to get the mineral readout.

Even if I sit and stare at it.

[worthy scroll]

This one is to scan what you're pointed at.

Now for my big question, can you selectively dump cargo in the Prospector?

[tepid basin]

I see. Staring at it long enough used to work.

No.

You can't do that in the Mole either

But I mean. You can choose what you want to refine at the refinery which is usually good enough for me.

[worthy scroll]

Dang I hoped that would be a thing by now. I was over half full on what I figured would be a good enough rock for my first time out, then I found enough quantainium to fill me up if I was empty.

[tepid basin]

And unfortunately picking up Quantanium then dumping cargo only dumps the Quantanium.

[worthy scroll]

I figured that would happen so I didn't try it.

Off to find a refinery now. So, you refine, and then have to load up the cargo in a different ship to take it somewhere to sell it?

[crimson mantle]

Correct! 😄 The refined load must be loaded in a cargo ship.

[worthy scroll]

Dang, so I have to figure out how to do cargo too then. Not something I'm a fan of.

[crimson mantle]

My website is there to help, if you so choose 🙂

[worthy scroll]

Lemme refine first before this quantainium burns a hole in me.

Can I store the ship and then refine?

I can't find where to refine this stuff... I'm in the refinery, but...

[near flower]

whats good for cargo running these days

[abstract jewel]

Refinery is up the stairs above the shop where you buy/rent mining gear.

[worthy scroll]

Yeah I finally found it. Selected my ship, was trying to get the process done, but then things just bugged out and nothing worked anymore.

Ship destroyed. That's why.

Well, that's my night then.

[tepid basin]

@crimson mantle Mind if I pick your brain with some odd questions?

[crimson mantle]

I might not be here for long, but go ahead

[tepid basin]

For example. I'm looking the Mining section and the OVI for quartz is quite high. I've never regarded it as profitable though.

[crimson mantle]

Quartz is indeed terrible (https://sc-trade.tools/ores/Spaceship), but there's loads of it

[tepid basin]

Hmm. Fair enough.

[crimson mantle]

You can always filter out the stuff you don't care about 🙂

[tepid basin]

Also. I don't see Aaron Halo in there. Is there a specific reason?

[crimson mantle]

Space has generally much less concentrated deposits, which means it doesn't show up when planets are included

It's much easier to navigate though

Try this one:

[tepid basin]

Hm? I don't see anything.

[crimson mantle]

https://tinyurl.com/s8n86ac7

This is space-only; only valuable ores

feel free to adjust to your preferences 😄

[tepid basin]

Thank you so much! I appreciate it. Although Clio seems quite valuable as a spot too.

[worthy scroll]

Is belt mining or moon mining the big thing now? I was on a moon and it was kind of hell because of the weather.

[delicate girder]

Any trick to finding the small mining rocks from the air? All I can find are the big ones on Daymar.

[worthy scroll]

Luck. The small hand-mine ones show up from ship scanning as well as the bigger ship rocks.

[delicate girder]

I can't get any luck mainly because by the time I get in my ship, get down to a PB, get my ROC, load it on the ship (Nomad or Cuttie) and start skimming the ground somewhere I only have about 15 minutes before the unavoidable server disconnect and crash. It's F ing useless!

I'll never buy another ship from CIG unless they get A LOT more server stability!!!!

If I connect to the US servers, don't even have time to get the ROC in my ship before it crashes. Other regions can be a bit better for me sometimes but not good enough to succeed.

[worthy scroll]

It's gotten worse since the event was over, but it's nowhere near as bad as it used to be.

[jolly bronze]

It is what it says on the tin, cargo running is just a function of SCU. For a dedicated hauler the best one is now the C2 as it has the largest cargo grid.

[delicate girder]

Well, it's bad enough that the only thing you can do successfully right now is bounty hunting. If they'd make it so it saves where you are and your progress every few seconds so nothing is lost like Elite Dangerous has had forever, it would be playable even with crashes.

[delicate girder]

Thought we were talking mining here, but cargo hauling just as bad. I'm not afraid at of players blowing me up. I'm only afraid of doing three successful runs and making tiny bits, only to have that and more wiped away by a server crash. It's just completely useless!

[delicate girder]

I have a Freelancer Max for hauling. It's really nice for that and you won't lose as much money as fast in it as a C2. 😉

[near flower]

i meant what kind of commodities, sorry for miscommunication

[jolly bronze]

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

[delicate girder]

During the show, fireworks was a good short haul.

[near flower]

not reliable

[delicate girder]

Well the reliability is only going to get worse because CIG is going to make it a dynamic market and then one C2 run will crash the market for everyone else.

[near flower]

yeah lol

[manic whale]

Whats with those asteroids that pop out on radar, but cant be scanned? Any solution for that?

[near flower]

no

those are bugged asteroids

[jolly bronze]

I've never had it not work tbh

[near flower]

it works

i know that

[tepid basin]

Good Morning Ladies and Gents.

[spring sentinel]

it is 2pm for me

but yes

[tepid basin]

Then good afternoon

But for me, it is 8am.

or was.

It's 8:30 now

[manic whale]

Is the "log off in bed to continuous loading screen" bug away or its rather "it could happen" than "it will happen" = not everytime? Cause I logged off 3x in MOLE today and came back in perfectly fine. ...+had a 30K in quantum travel, I thought the mined cargo will be lost, but ended in front of refinery station after login 😄

[tame elbow]

They fixed it in 3.13.1

[glad trench]

I had the loading screen infinite from bed log recently

Don't reccomend logging in a bed

[craggy plover]

Is there reputation in the game for cargo hauling? If so, how many cargo contracts do you have to do before your\ contacted by someone???

[blissful oxide]

Not currently
They are working on it though
Dunno if it will come before or after bounty hunting v2 ?

[craggy plover]

Is bounty Hunting the only thing to earn rep in now then?

[tepid basin]

Are Cargo Contracts a thing?

[crimson mantle]

No 😦

[tepid basin]

Damn

[craggy plover]

is bounty hunting the only thing to get rep in right now?

[blissful oxide]

Some mission give mission aswell, that gives reputation related to them
It's not really bounty hunting, but mercenary

But that's more or less the same imo 😄

[craggy plover]

ahh, ok, so only bh & merc has the rep system so far

thank you

[blissful oxide]

yup

[quasi cloak]

My best haul with a roc was 300k in 3 hours is that good or bad ?

[edgy lynx]

my personal max is 480k 1h20

more often arround 220k 1h

[pliant matrix]

180k in an hour with around 80% full so yeah norm is around 200k/hour

[edgy lynx]

look for 38% or more quatanium for a mass above 4600

spot with 2 or 3 asteroid could be cool, if there is two rock with 20% could fill u too.

[still junco]

how much is teh rental for a caterpillar or any other hauler with significant cargo storage

[edgy lynx]

freelancer arround 20k

[still junco]

also, can i put my refined ores into member of my party ship

[edgy lynx]

not yet for sure in future

[outer wagon]

Just to be clear, it's still impossible to make any money with commodities trading right?

Last patch you could do a bit with diamond

But it seems that's gone, and the commodity price updates are not remotely valuable to trade

[edgy lynx]

same state tooday, not the greatest time for trading, but u could still do some money

[outer wagon]

It's a real shame

Oh well.

[edgy lynx]

yes the journal updates is not accurate

[outer wagon]

Titanium is never available, and it's the only thing worth anything at all

[edgy lynx]

expt for process food -> arround 80k for a full C2

[outer wagon]

I did processed food in a Cat

You buy for 70k and sell for 80k

It's a waste of time

[edgy lynx]

look for med supp from Clio to Loreville or Area 18, then buy a bit of astatine to sell at clio

[outer wagon]

But medical supplies are always low stock

You can never fill up right?

[edgy lynx]

yes but do not need, play on serv where local hour is early morning, more stock cause less buyer

arround 2Auec profit per unit

[outer wagon]

But stocks are now shared across servers

It doesn't matter what region you pick

[edgy lynx]

i made test on the same run 20 times on EU serv arround 8pm, and 20 on AUS serv arround 8pm -> 6am, and i got 12% stock and a few centdif on price

do not know what cause this but it's seems to work

[north oyster]

Trade (except for events that use the journal) is dead until the cargo refactor.

[weary idol]

Quick question: Does someone know how many ROCs fit into the Cargobay of a C2 Hercules?

[tepid basin]

69

[final hatch]

Can I pass cargo (refined materials) from the refinery hub to a party member ship ?

[tepid basin]

Not to my knowledge.

Maybe thru a Cargo Deck. But you'd have to move it first.

[final hatch]

this is the situation, my friend rented the prospector and I was supposed to rent some cargo ship,

and sell those refined materials

if that can´t work, those refined materials can go to the same prospector ?

[tepid basin]

Nope

Either sell em raw or give your friend the money to rent the cargo ship

[weary idol]

Found the pic on another SC discord

[worthy scroll]

MF... Finally get off work, 3 hours after I should have, get on to do some mining and relax. Get in my ship and die.

[glad trench]

What cargo bay is that lol it looks vastly larger then a c2

[tepid basin]

Figured y'all might like this for Cargo

https://youtu.be/PaUD8TZoiPQ

[worthy scroll]

Oh dang, I didn't expect a 30m wait for refining.

[tepid basin]

You use the faster method?

[worthy scroll]

What faster method...

[tepid basin]

What refining method you use?

Pyrometric Cromalysis has the same yield as Dinyx Solventation and will be done sometime this century but costs more to do.

Use that one^

The cost is absolutely minimal compared to the profit made and the speed is super nice.

[worthy scroll]

I didn't know there were different methods. I just selected my ores and hit refine.

[tepid basin]

Use the high yield fuckers

[worthy scroll]

I'll have to look next time I go there, I didn't see a thing to change that.

[tepid basin]

Specifically Pyrometric Cromalysis xD

It's there somewhere. A bit hard if you don't know and need to refine Quantanium.

I suggest taking a look on something simple and reviewing the chat. I'm gonna make my own that I hope will be a bit easier. I find those two a chore to look at.

[worthy scroll]

I learned my lesson with quantainium yesterday. Headed back as soon as I got it and my ship blew up before I could refine it.

[tepid basin]

What ship?

Also. Wear light armor or just a flight suit. You run faster.

[worthy scroll]

Prospector

[tepid basin]

I'm compiling a mining reference setup but here's what I got for time.

That 2nd chart is outdated but is a good reference still.

[glad trench]

Diynx > everything

[tepid basin]

It's nice but I hate waiting a day and 16hrs for my fucking materials.

One of these days tho. I'll just pump a refinery with Quantanium and pick it up for a sell fest 2 days later.

@crimson mantle I am gonna use your site as a resource, would it be alright if I included a link to your site in the reference sheet I am making?

[crimson mantle]

Sure, it's a community tool meant to be used. I appreciate the reference though 🙂

[tepid basin]

I plan for it to be an excel sheet that I can distribute links and such to find additional useful information.

Also being an easy way to look up needed and relevant information that I can't find all in one spot since some tables hurt my eyes, others are a bitch to explain to new players.

[crimson mantle]

As long as it's not automated scraping

[tepid basin]

Nah. Just a quick reference sheet with links to include mining spots and worthwhile ores. Nothing automated they have to open the web page themselves.

I can submit it to you privately before publishing it so you can review it and give me an okay.

[crimson mantle]

Nah it's fine, it's been done before, no worries 😄

I appreciate the heads up though

[worthy scroll]

I picked that one this time and it's gonna take over 4 hours lol.

Sheez, I didn't think mining would be like this. I take it whatever I have complete will stay here until I load it into a ship?

[tepid basin]

Yep!

Or forever

[worthy scroll]

Awesome 👍

[tepid basin]

@worthy scroll Mind if I dm you and get your opinions on my reference sheet? I have a bit filled in just want some general opinions

[worthy scroll]

Not sure I'd be the best person for that, but I can take a peek.

[tepid basin]

It's mainly in regards to formatting

Since you are new to mining. I think it's a good way to see this through a new player's eyes

[worthy scroll]

Aight

[tepid basin]

@crimson mantle Sorry to bug, how did you use tinyurl to make that url you gave me before with the selections made, any specific process?

Nevermind. I'm stupid.

[steady willow]

okay fuck i'm glad i wasn't the only one

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

reading this spreadsheet like

[manic whale]

Thats why Daniel wants new people in mining to look at it, what they think about it. For me it perfectly clear, cause I know the items, places..

[still junco]

ok so i just rented a cutlass black

went to refinery and put some cargo on it

go to the hangas and retrieve the cutlass to go sell my cargo

but now i board the cutlass and its empy

empty*

[hollow sedge]

is there any workaround to getting stuck in the prospector seat?

[tepid basin]

Here's the semi finished one

When I am finished. The excel file will be available via Google Drive. So you can open it and click the links.

[tepid basin]

I'd love your opinion on this too.

[ancient ivy]

Is this for prospector/mole mining only as your missing hadanite off there

[glad trench]

Lyria is a good quantum spot aparently

Also holy shit. I almost accidentally copy pasted an NSFW meme

[tepid basin]

Will be a separate chart with selling locations included.

Any other concerns or comments? I'd love some feedback.

[still junco]

im selling refined ores at hurston and they wont buy more from me what the hell

shop inventory is a thing for big cities?

nvm i could send another sell offer after the thing

[pliant matrix]

there is always a limited quantity of what to buy and sell in each city/station/whatever

[still junco]

not even a full inventory of a cutlass

an industrialized planet, supposed to be a powerhouse according to lore, wont even buy an inventory of a cutlass

i guess they are testing the system

and for release it will be better balanced

[pliant matrix]

alpha TM dude xD
Trading is the less advanced features

[west wyvern]

I'm seriously debating if I want that all a rounder cutty black + roc or more specifically the freelancer + roc for much bigger hauls

[worthy scroll]

Freelancer.

[west wyvern]

I have enough auec for cutty black and roc already but like hmm

[tepid basin]

@west wyvern Personally. I don't see a difference. The cutty black is a bit easier to drive into tho.

But I hate drake and will tell you Freelancer for days.

Freelancer Max specifically is the best.

[worthy scroll]

Freelancer is just better all around. Better loadouts, better cargo (depending on version). The cockpit is derpy but that about it.

[west wyvern]

Oh yeah specifically the freelancer max is what I meant