industrial-professions

[silk delta]

Confirmed that leaving a purple quantanium rock sitting idle for 30 minutes doesn't affect it's decay, at least in the asteroid belt

[main saddle]

Heh, was it a a lot? Would’ve been bad if you got a 30k while timing it. 😅

[frank lantern]

im new anyone wanna help me play, i would like to try out minning but im poor lol

[nimble mica]

I’ve got my mining tool equipped, but it won’t let me pull it out, my press 4 and nothing happens.

[quartz vector]

is the prospector or roc more profitable?

i have both and dont know which i should use for pure money making

[north oyster]

Both make good coin, both are random earnings based off finding the ore/gems. ROC has more more things to you need to do before payout (load in ship, fly around, scan, locate gems, unload ship, mine gems, reload into ship, go sell) but you make about 200K aUEC per run. Prospector is simpler in that effect (get in ship, find ore, mine it, take to refinery) but has longer time table for earnings. The ROC beats Prospector in earning quicker. The Prospector lets you stack your jobs and then take them all to market at one time to sell.

[hollow sedge]

the pizza guy farted.

[quartz vector]

Thank you very much

[half condor]

Anyone mining quantinium who i can join?

[modern agate]

random question: can party members buy/sell cargo for your ship?

[crimson mantle]

Not at this time, no

[hollow sedge]

is the asteroid belt between crusader and arccorp no longer there?

[tender wing]

What seems to be more profitable, space or planet/moon mining?

I seem to find tons of higher quality ores/minerals on planets than in space

[half condor]

Any mining crew i can join in?

[modern agate]

Dammit, I wanted a terminal monkey

[nimble mica]

I’m doing a black box delivery mission, when I said it on the desk that says deliveries I can’t interact with the guy behind the counter and nothing is happening, bugged? Am I doing something wrong? Any help would be much appreciated

[fickle agate]

Guys I'm debating whether to upgrade my package to the Orion. I love mining but usually it's either me playing solo or with 1-2 friends of mine. How practical do you think the Orion would be for a purchase? I am in an org too so could recruit some members from there to help out.

[mighty hamlet]

hey guys where do i sell the ore i mined after i refine it?

[crimson mantle]

The major cities. Which one is best varies (some buy more than others).
https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer

[woven trail]

anybody got a decent prospector loadout?

[hardy ravine]

Is trading still busted?

[idle blade]

I don’t even think theres an ETA on the Orions release. I’ve owned one for over a year with hopes it would come out. Stick with a mole for multicrew

[still junco]

is it possible to rent the Argo MOLE

[crimson mantle]

Supplies are still low, yes.
The new event commodities are working better though

[hardy ravine]

Thanks.

[crimson mantle]

No, only buy atm

[still junco]

alright thank you

[hardy ravine]

Yeah I saw those ingame events popping up and I was wondering if it is any better these days.

[half condor]

Any miner who i can tag along?

[still junco]

can you get one of those delivery mission boxes inside a prospector?

it only has a ladder to get inside, right? no ramp or lift

[ancient ivy]

Only the ladder that’s right. And it’s quite tall so I don’t know if you’d be able to place one at the top... never tried

[hollow sedge]

for the aurora and 300i, if you have box in hand and select "enter ship", it will play the animation and get you into the ship but you keep on holding the box

idk about other ships

those are the only two ive tries

tried

[still junco]

thank you dude ill check it once i rent the prospector

[ancient ivy]

Surely your going to be using the prospector to mine not for box missions

[hollow sedge]

quantanium minnig: whats better, moons/planets or asteroids?

mining* cant type today

[still junco]

i was thinking on using the boxes to mark clusters and interesting places

[ancient ivy]

Best places for quantanium

[ancient ivy]

Ahh that’s cool!

[half condor]

Anyone can help me with mining?

[worthy scroll]

Do box missions "level up" like they used to? The more you do, the higher pay ones become available? Or do they just suck overall now.

[livid drift]

ROC mining completely busted for me today. found a group of 3 hadanite rocks and couldn't bust a single one. Would sit there with beam at 100% for a couple minutes and charge wouldn't move at all

that's on top of pickup beam taking forever to pick anything up

[coarse cape]

prob server lag

[livid drift]

i figured as much but it's still frustrating

[lavish monolith]

I made 400k a few days ago in a 2 hour trip

Also, what lasers and modules do some of you use for Quantanium and some Bexalite or Taranite sometimes? I use the Helix, but i don't have any experience with other lasers?

[pliant matrix]

Even if you're not too picky and if servers works fine you can make easy and fast money in roc

[placid karma]

rented a c2/m2 and am in lorville, is there something simple I can try out trading?

or common trades like buy X and then sell at Y

[languid quest]

So I'm a little confused by trading. Is there any way to know how much stock is wanted/for sale before you get somewhere?

[sick oxide]

im tryna get into trading too

[desert nimbus]

you cant really tell unfortunately, alot of the time, the planetary outposts will only buy so much, and if you are hauling a large ship full of cargo, you may have to make multiple drop off trips. however, landing at one of the main cities, and using their trade terminals, they generally buy far larger quantities that allow you to sell your entire hold of cargo in one. the flip side is it takes longer to reach these terminals due to space port landing, train travel etc. The recent additions of commodity price updates has done wonders. earlier i loaded up my C2 with fireworks and flew it to microtec and sold via the admin office in the commons district. made 84k in one sale

[languid quest]

Jeez

I've only done small trading so far, 50scu or so

[desert nimbus]

yeah its high risk high reward, although the real risk at the moment is the server crashing mid cargo run.

[languid quest]

Is that a big issue? I thought you could log in/out in ships with beds

[desert nimbus]

no, if the server 30k,s youll lose all your cargo

[languid quest]

Ouch. Does voluntarily logging out in a ship with beds work yet?

[desert nimbus]

you can , but im not sure how long the cargo will stay there for

[languid quest]

Ah. Well thanks for the info!

[frigid sage]

dev required at AUS servers hacker onsite

[lavish monolith]

Okay im actually trying it right now with lancet

[hollow sedge]

does overpowering/overclocking the ping item in the power>items tab do anything ?

[ornate rock]

don't think so

maybe it increases power draw

that's all it does on some cannons

[hollow sedge]

but no actual added range or sth?

[ornate rock]

not that I'm aware of no, probably just a relict.

[hollow sedge]

aight ty

[novel nacelle]

I have been doing the ‘supply alert’ trading for a few days now in the M2. For the event items (Helium, food, fireworks, souvenirs, and audio/video gear) I have been able to pickup FULL loads every time, and sell FULL loads every time. The event items don’t make a ton, but it is nice to fill up a ship and make the run again

Beware - 30k will still cause you to loose all the cargo

[main grove]

I too have been doing this, but only thing is my C2 never shows the cargo inside.

[pliant matrix]

same. imagine my stress first time I loaded it all and seen nothing in the cargo bay xD

[desert nimbus]

Run fireworks.... it makes 87k per run if you fill up a c2

[languid quest]

Can anyone tell me where to sell gold? All of the trading guides/apps say Lorville does, but it doesn't appear on the sell list.

[novel nacelle]

For the Gold, try another terminal, or wait. Lorville should buy everything

[coarse cape]

is arial still bugged for mining or no

[compact hinge]

@coarse cape I mine there daily

[coarse cape]

yeah i tried going there no luck sadly

prob just the area i went to tho

[winter hazel]

what's the best cargo ship that can be bought in-game

[thorny copper]

currently still caterpillar

[winter hazel]

wow only 5 mil

bet

[thorny copper]

in a patch or two the C2 Hercules will steal its crown tho

[winter hazel]

yeah but that isn't available in game

[thorny copper]

nope, in the meantime caterpillar is your best bet by far

[winter hazel]

ok thanks

[weary raven]

Anyone see this one before? I spawned in with no armor or guns, or the undersuit i was wearing. I do have one of my other undersuits plus the default. I logged out in station last time playing

I just relogged but still, no gear.

whoops wrong channel

[worthy scroll]

Happened to me, it stranded me on a station where I couldn't even buy a helmet to make it to a ship if I spawned one in.

It's a UI bug. I got a ride to somewhere else, and when I bought a new set of gear, everything else showed back up.

[trim condor]

how do you do cargo hauling

is there a place you go to

[weary raven]

thanks! Hopefully ill get my stuff back. Had a lot of mags and med pens. At least i didnt lose my pembroke undersuit though

[tribal goblet]

How mining? Havent done much since pre-Roc days

[desert nimbus]

Hey bud. At any city, station or outpost you can find trade terminals which will sell different types of goods . In cities they are usually within their trade centres (microtec TDD, Loreville business district etc) and on space stations they are always within the yellow admin offices.

Once you have a ship that can store a reasonable amount of cargo, you can visit these terminals, selecting your chosen ship and buy whatever they have there . It will spawn the cargo in your ship and then when you retrieve it, it will be full of cargo.

Depending on what prices you bought at, other stations or cities will buy it back for more, hence your profit. Fly to those places and visit the terminals there. You can sell your items at that terminal, turning in a profit.

It’s important to note a lot of items don’t yield that much profit.
Thankfully , the game recently added commodity price alerts to your journal. Look at these and it will tell you the selling and purchase price of certain items, And their locations.

It will say for instance . (Microtec- Medical supplies , Overstock Sell - 12.59UEC) this means the location listed will sell you the medical supplies for 12.59 UEC each.

Then, scroll down and find another location which says (Medical supplies Understock Purchase -) depending on what the understock price is, depends on how much profit you make. Let’s say for this example it is 14.59UEC... therefore for each box of cargo, you will make 2 UEC profit.

The commodity alerts have been pretty good in providing enough cargo supplies to completely fill a C2 Hercules.
For instance, yesterday I was running Cargo with Fireworks . I’d spend around 650,000uec filling up my ship. And when I sold it I made about 84,000 profit each run

[undone socket]

Any1 still roc mining?

[tired spade]

Can anyone teach me how to trade?

[woeful moss]

@tired spade There are guides in the game that take the hand of new players. Sadly I can't exactly say how to find one. I think it's via spectrum or so

[tired spade]

I was using the trading tool but I found it useless

light fighter bounty hunting was much more profitable than C2 trading. I think I did something wrong or the tool has something wrong

[terse fable]

The commodity Price Alerts under Journal in your Mobiglas is probably the best for getting the latest prices

[tired spade]

40k?? that's it???

this is so sad. Alexa sell my C2 Hercules

[terse fable]

there is a great video on youtube by DigThat32 on how to use the commodity price alerts, its funny too.

[tired spade]

buy from overstock sell to understock got it

testing it now

The man's mic is too sexy I can't take this no more

[terse fable]

lol yea his voice

[terse fable]

what are we looking at? the elevator comes down before the shaft?

[tired spade]

ye

weird elevator

can't refuel or repair the c2 either

also can't set route

I think my c2 is a defective unit

and my ship fucks itself when I land no matter how light I touch the ground

nose up 20 degree when landing?

[terse fable]

Interesting.. I haven't had any of those issues with my C2

[tired spade]

ok it still smack itself on the nose

feels like a clumsy connie

[terse fable]

I find the radar a little annoying as the pilot seat is left of it so when you think its dead center, it is not

[tired spade]

c2 owner party

[terse fable]

something we'll have to get used to slowly I guess

[tired spade]

I bought the helium and it disappears

[terse fable]

I took my C2 bounty hunting yesterday and did an HRT, oh boy! because it was not very agile, it took ages to keep the target in your view

so not doing that again! and lucky I didn't do an VHRT or ERT

[tired spade]

ok it shows cargo full at the console I'm just gonna go with it i guess

[terse fable]

it can take some good damage though. Also it was very expensive to repair, 12k repairs, and 8k to refuel hyrogen

yea hope they fix the cargo visibility thing, feels wierd delivery nothing lol

[tired spade]

"here's the air you bought. 150k aUEC please"

My stupid ass thought upgrading the c2 beyond the qt drive is a good idea

wasted a bunch of money on shields power plant and cooler

standard procedure when you first fly a cargo ship

[terse fable]

agreed, first thing I did. Haven't looked at the other parts yet, probably soon

I went one up and bought 2 paints for it, Timberline and Cerberus.

[tired spade]

I think the default is good enough for most of us

[terse fable]

yea seems like every person and their dog has one, so wanted to look different

more often than not, I am sure there will be multiple C2's parked at any outpost while your cargo hauling, I'd spot mine easily

[tired spade]

great... everus harbour elevator disappeared

Can't sell my shit now

bye guys

[terse fable]

good luck!

[tired spade]

nevermind it magically appeared again

profited

sitting at 1.9m auec

[shadow arch]

No issues on the c2 with refueling so far other then it takes a hell of a time to refuel that big ass fuel tank

[terse fable]

Great stuff! Might do some later after I make some more money from bounties. Spent my aUEC on a sentinel

[tired spade]

That's what I call a great investment

Maybe we can add eachother and do trading together later on

[terse fable]

I love my Sentinel, its my primary ship for bounties now.

[tired spade]

after I learnt how to use the price alert I have mastered trading

buy 1.8/unit sell 2.3/unit

[terse fable]

though the alerts is abit tough to filter what you want

[tired spade]

great ship. I fit mine with double FR76, full stealth powerplants and coolers. Ballistic gatling on nose and 4 ballistic repeater front

FR76 overclocked as it should be

[terse fable]

good loadout. I didn't bother with stealth components on mine. FR-76's as well, JS-400 power, CoolCore coolers. I went with Absolution fixed distortion scatter for nose and GVSR laser repeaters. I got a litle sick of running out of ammo. All overclocked of course.

I miss the sound of ballistics 🙂

[shadow arch]

I did notice the price alert pricing you see isn't always accurate

[terse fable]

the alerts do get updated often though, you see it popup saying its been updated

[tired spade]

I went stealth just to be not so detectable, full military build can get you spotted from far away

[shadow arch]

Did see that, but no pricing change. Might be on my end though idk

[tired spade]

I’ve seen it update it’s cool

[terse fable]

you could be right

its Quanta in action

[tired spade]

Light fighter full stealth can hide you above 3km

You see them they don’t see you

And if you don’t lock him he’s clueless

[terse fable]

this is PVP yea?

[tired spade]

Both pvp and pve

I tested light fighter stealth

[terse fable]

ahh so it works for PVE too, cool!

[tired spade]

Enough performance for all your components while stealthy

I think every light fighter should get this instead of military build

[terse fable]

I might get some full stealth components when I can afford it again. will definitely giv it a try

[tired spade]

Everything grade A stealth. Besides Shields and weapons

My full stealth light fighter is 1 palisade 1 mirage shields

Full ballistics for further stealth

Don’t ever boost outside of combat even further boost

Stealth

You’ll pop off the other player’s radar constantly during pvp

Just go 1 palisade 1 mirage and overlock the mirage

Size 2 or beyond go full military A shield

Overlock

[shadow arch]

Ah yes the art of stealth hauling

[terse fable]

thats an idea, make the C2 stealth

keeps the pirates out

[shadow arch]

I think it's too big for that no? MSR would be better suited

[tired spade]

Wut

Yeah there’s no point going stealth if any of your components are at size 3

Hope your hull is hard enough and jump

[shadow arch]

Just equip the camouflage paint and you're invisible to the eye

[terse fable]

yea shit, I"m still learning

no stealth category for C2 on Erkul

[tired spade]

I’m thinking of a stealth module where it hides your thermal and electronic signature

Overheats your ship and disable shield

[terse fable]

haha good one, Cerberus will work will at night, but not at NB.

*well

[tired spade]

John Cena ship skin

John Cena thruster color

John Cena flares

[terse fable]

gonna lose my rented M2 in 2 hours 😭

still gotta visit the Anvil expo

yes that!

[shadow arch]

Rather have my c2

a2 paint job is also pretty rad

[terse fable]

I thought all the seats look cool too

[tired spade]

I’m going full Crusader fleet, ares inferno, c2

[shadow arch]

Eyyy same, only thing im missing right now is the starliner

[tired spade]

It’s coming q3 isn’t it

[terse fable]

agreed, thats the only seat I don't want

[shadow arch]

Starliner? I know the ares was I think

[tired spade]

No the ares straighter

Yeah

I’m very excited about it

It’ll be my bounty hunting ship or even pvp if it’s possible

It might perform better than sentinel

Longer range, better design, better shield and Hull penetration

It’ll be similar to the warden I think

[shadow arch]

Won't need to keep your target in line for long if your initial burst already evaporated the target

[tired spade]

Dps might not be impressive but it has long range and good penetration because it’s a size 7

So better overall effective dps than sentinel

Don’t need to worry about killing the shield first or penetration rate

It also has good armor

We’ll have to wait

And I hate waiting

Yeah

Good idea

[shadow arch]

Anyone know if the banu merchant man will be for sale this week?

[tired spade]

275 usd vs 220 usd

I think it will

[shadow arch]

I would love to have one

[tired spade]

They’re selling each manufacturer’s concept ship as well as fly able ship

[terse fable]

says its 4.2 mil on Erkul

still beats buying 2 Banu Defenders though

so much to buy and can't make money fast enough

[lament wolf]

Hi there. Just drafting some approx numbers to work out max cargo yield on dolovine and hadenite for my Hull E.

How much Hadenite can you fit in 1 scu?

[crimson mantle]

1000 hadanite fit in 1 SCU

[lament wolf]

And 1 hadenite = 270aUEC?

So, 1 SCu of hadenite = 270k

[crimson mantle]

275 UEC

I highly doubt you'll ever fill an Hull-E with Hand minables though 😄

[lament wolf]

True. Haha. What's the most expensive commodity you can buy best suited for hull e? Sorry kinda new to cargo.

[crimson mantle]

I forgot what's the total SCU capacity of an Hull-E, but right now very few places have inventories this large

They will make it worthwhile for sure, but in 3.13.1 it's hard enough to find enough good commodities to fill a C2

Although even low margin stuff will be a mega payday in an Hull-E

For example, processed food is only 0.35UEC profit per unit

but when you carry millions...

So a full Hull-E of processed food is 3.4M profit

and that stuff is garbage, so... 😛

[lament wolf]

That's great, anywhere currently actually has enough quantity to even fill a Hull-E? even 1 type of mineral/ commodity

[crimson mantle]

Technically, yes
In reality: no, because the Hull-E cannot land 😄

and no space station has that much stock

[lament wolf]

Well, anywhere has enough stock for a Hull-C? ^^

[crimson mantle]

Not even 🙂

[lament wolf]

I guess there will be somewhere

and more than one place to stop pirate camping

[languid quest]

I lost 100k credits because I lost access to the M2 xD

[north oyster]

ouch, free rental ran out? Timing is everything sometimes

[languid quest]

Subscriber access to a ship 😛 I had a bug where I couldn't sell the cargo. Came back later to see if I could sell it aaand

Gone

[undone socket]

is any1 still roc mining?

[lean heart]

Is trading still good?

[blissful oxide]

Souvenirs/fireworks are great

[undone socket]

is any1 roc mining?

[toxic sandal]

Is there anywhere I can fill a cat with somewhat valuable things

[manic whale]

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Caterpillar%2522,%2522investment%2522:999999,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%2522Fireworks%2522%255D,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%255D%257D

[winter hazel]

where should I go to buy the most profitable trade cargo

[daring vale]

They say trade is fixed, so I have one simple question,

Is it possible to actually fill a large hold with adequately priced cargo, or is medical supplies still on the endangered species list?

[languid quest]

Hard to find enough medical supplies to fill a large hold.

Even harder to sell them

[main grove]

Do the commodity price alert in your mobiglass

I do quick Helium runs on Microtech from one station to NB for up to 70K a trip

[daring vale]

70k is pocket change with a large hold.

Bah,

[lavish monolith]

Yes and making millions with it

[brisk loom]

Whats the best way to transport QT sensitive cargo?

did a little snooping in the discord, turns out its not worth it lol

[sick oxide]

sometimes the trade alerts aren’t up to date

[worthy scroll]

Pick up boxes, get out of atmo and circle around to where you need to be.

But yeah, box missions aren't worth the time anymore, not unless it's all you can do in your specific ship.

I'm doing some right now, but on this one the building to drop off the box in doesn't exist >.<

Ah, it spawned in after I got out of my ship.

[odd moss]

Just bought an ROC and have no experience upgrading mining components or even my Connies weapons. Basically can i upgrade Rocs mining components and is if even worth it

[manic whale]

No, you mine with ROC as it is, nothing to upgrade there.

[north oyster]

ROC mining is still an excellent way to earn coin in game. The gameplay loop isn't mindless and it does require a little time to master. However, it pays really well once you have the basics down pat

[chrome cloak]

Argo Mole vs Argo Mole Carbon - thoughts?

[north oyster]

same ship, different skins. One is "rare" I think as related to the Carbon

[chrome cloak]

Yeah, but like which one do you think looks cooler?

Grey or orange?

[manic whale]

Carbon looks cooler, orange looks hot! 😁 https://fleetyards.net/uploads/image/name/22/da/2036-14c5-43d4-a8de-26150fc48fd7/ARGO_Mole_Variants_122019-Min-9b84c52b-95ae-44eb-82e2-9b55aaab6256.jpg

[idle blade]

i love my carbon, never going back to that ugly orange

[north oyster]

Absolutely agree that the livery of the Carbon wins hands down. However, I would think new skins will be coming for the MOLE sometime. I have the black skin for my Freelancer MAX and love it (it was a real dollar purchase but well worth it). No more ugly orange ship

[languid quest]

What's ROC stand for?

[pallid temple]

Remote Ore Collector

[trim condor]

can you buy the c2 or m2 ships with aUEC

or is it with real money only

[pallid temple]

Pledge Store only until 3.14

[magic shard]

I have tried ROC mining after some time and I was able to dismantle the rocks, but the extractor never sucked any fragments - is there anything I can do about that?

[olive marsh]

whats the best thing to trade at the moment?

[dire iris]

DRUUUGZZ

[stable dust]

Anyone know of a good guide on refinement? Figured out the mining bit but I figure refining yields more UEC than just selling the ore?

[iron badge]

anyone knows a good trade run for the c2 ?

apart from the fireworks from l1 > banjini

[hollow sedge]

no thats a the best one rn

i think you can bring the fireworks to microtech for a little more tho

[blissful oxide]

Souvenirs from Area 18 to NB is great aswell
It takes more time, but you do more profit per run and you need less auec

[muted crag]

how do i cargo haul?

can someone explain to me the concept

[crimson mantle]

https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq 😉

[north oyster]

When you are getting ready to collect, let the tractor bean do a full scan first. Vacuum then after that

[oak lake]

The chunks may have been too big still, you may have needed to break them down further one more time

[wheat solar]

and if they just spin in a circle in the air that means your cargo is full.

dumbass me didn't realize that for the longest time one night. just figured it was another bug lol

[oak lake]

Lmao

Tbf the mining interface for vehicles has a lot going on

[wheat solar]

I'm sure i'll forget again some day...

[magic shard]

Full scan of the fragments?

[magic shard]

While ROC mining? Is that a new thing?

[lavish monolith]

@magic shard no, i don't know what those two are talking about. You only break the rock ones and then you can usually just pick them up. Sometimes it takes up to about 30 seconds because of the server but on good servers, it's almost instantly picking up

For picking up, you just switch the mining mode with right click and then tap once left click and aim on the rocks on the ground

[short tapir]

Hey i have been away from the game for a long time, and a lot have changed regarding the way we mining, anyone can recommend a good tutorial that covers all the changes while i wait for the update to finish?

[lavish monolith]

Use SC Trade tools and look for the deposits you want to mine, usually for Quantanium (a highly explosive element), i go to microtech or it's moons, or even better HUR L3 to mine, on SC Trade tools, you can look up any element you want to mine and it gives out locations where most deposits of that material are. Prospector is for solo mining, Mole for Crew mining, Best lasers are Helix and Lancet, both have different benefits and nerfs. There are mining modules now, passive (that don't get used up) and active (that get used up with a key bind) and they boost some mining aspects like a bigger green zone. I can send some tables if you want to

[short tapir]

@lavish monolith thank you ! The whole refining is that done on all planets where you sell your resources to as well?

And i remember there was a issue, i cant remember the planet might be micro where if you tried to land it would activate auto pilot and then a bug would happen where it never disengages again. Have they fixed that?

[lavish monolith]

As you see in the table above, these are the stations where You can refine the ore (ARC L1, CRU L1 etc) , using one of the refinery methods (below there). You probably mean the bug in lorville, yeah they fixed that

[short tapir]

@lavish monolith yeah was lorville so glad they fixed that!

alright i guess there is only one way to learn this, and thats to jump into it with both feets. Must admit looks a bit overwelming

[lavish monolith]

@short tapir yeah seems a bit overwhelming at first, but once you have it figured out, it's a nice routine.
My routine is to go to HUR L3, mine rocks with Quantanium >15% , fly to CRU L1 and refine it with the Dynix method, then fly back and do it again. Quantanium mining isn't good for beginners tbh but it was the first thing I did xD

[short tapir]

@lavish monolith Hehe thats what i use to do as well, except the asteroid mining was broken last i played, so i visited planets a lot xD

So hows the pirating? since we have to refine stuff in order to sell it, seems like a really good spot for pirates to mess with the miners?

[lavish monolith]

Haven't had any pirates (yet), but you have to watch out when selling the refined ore, that's the problem, you usually have then about 100k-500k in your cargo and one pirate could take your entire cargo when destroying you. Either have a good ship that can fight Back or a fast one

[short tapir]

@lavish monolith oh i dont know if i have a fast one or good but i have the cat (unless they reset the ingame) and the Constellation Taurus (well the replacement untill released)

[lavish monolith]

Constellation is good , has good pew pews, just needs a better QD, the cat is less ideal but holds up fire fairly well. You probably only want to fill up a constallation at max. Also when did you play last time? There was a wipe in 3.10 i think

[short tapir]

yeah

@lavish monolith i see the game still have issues when you click to plot a course it wont do it lol

[lavish monolith]

Yes F2 map is still bugged

[short tapir]

bummer

[short tapir]

@lavish monolith well that was pleasant surprise to login and see you have 1 mill lol

at least i can buy a new mining laser

[polar patio]

is the Helix 1 still the most powerful laser for the prospector?

i find it hard to mine anything alone, i dont get enough power into rocks 😦

[north oyster]

Yes Helix is still top as to power, however, the game is changed. Power alone doesn't win. You will have to use consumables on a number of rocks and in different blends. That is one reason why the lancet is also now very popular

[lavish monolith]

I mine quantainium and used to use the Helix aswell, now I use the Lancet with FLTR XL module , surge and stampede consumables, its a lot better than the Helix with any other module and I can even break rocks with 7000-8000 kg of mass, which I couldn't with the helix

[gray osprey]

Is there any reason to trade atm if you actually want to make money?

Everytime I've tried, I make such a tiny amount of profit, even using the alert notifications

[blissful oxide]

What ship do you have ?
With my M2, I trade souvenirs, and do ~100k per trade (with 600k)
Which is good, for a job where you barely have to do anything ^^

[gray osprey]

well with the biggest cargo ship in the game I guess you can make a decent amount

any ship smaller than that and it seems shit

whenever I've tried with something like a Freelancer, even the MAX, it's like 10-20k for a longish run

[runic scarab]

Heyyo

Anyone know if passive modules stack?

[manic whale]

search YT for "Must Known Money Trick - Stacking Sub-Components | Star Citizen"

[runic scarab]

Is that a yes?

I'm in china, in game, must use a specific VPN for being in game that permits only game through GFW so I cannot youtube

[hollow sedge]

if you rent a mining ship, can you change its mining head or add consumables?

[pallid temple]

No

[hollow sedge]

😦

fair

[rugged viper]

How much you guys make on average from a mining run, roc and prospector

Never went mining before, figured I could open up my gameplay options

[hollow sedge]

I didnt do much roc mining. Its nice but a tad too tedious, what with managing a roc and a transport for it, finding a place to land the transport, etc.

Prospector mining is sth i picked up recently and boy is this good. A prospector full of Quantanium (for which you only need one or two good rocks) is 250k once refined

and it a game of luck to find the good rocks to break, but if you invest some grind time, you can make easily a mil or two a day

although the payday is delayed cuz u gotta refine, but the shorter refining methods are a few hours only

[polar patio]

bounties pay 700k/hour

but yeah, mining is a welcome change

[winter hazel]

is purchase price the price you purchase the commodity or the price at which they buy the commodity?

[lavish monolith]

You're welcome

[hollow sedge]

do they still? Which bounties you doing? Cuz I used to make quite a bit with the Eckhart bounties but his npc and missions seem to be broken this patch

[polar patio]

those group bounties?

90k/bounty

is that broken now?

[hollow sedge]

i cant access them anymore

cuz I need to re-interact with the NPC but he's broken this patch it seems

i think some people managed to get the NPC to interact but mostly he seems broken

[winter hazel]

the group bounties are not broken

but the eckhart ones are

haven't done one yet cuz I recently joined

[hollow sedge]

non-eckhart group bounties go up to 90k?

[winter hazel]

yeah

group ERT missions

[hollow sedge]

wow i've been missing out. Only northrock? or any quest giver?

[winter hazel]

they are northrock

you need to get to ERT

[hollow sedge]

alright perfect

[winter hazel]

they involve taking down hammerheads so make sure you either have strong dps or distortions that take down its big shields

[hollow sedge]

Oh yea I used to solo them ez with my Sent when I did Eckhart missions

god I missed fighting them

[winter hazel]

yeah they are pretty easy with a ship like that

[hollow sedge]

yea

[winter hazel]

I usually use an andromeda

but I used to use my warlock with a distortion scattergun

[hollow sedge]

anything with distortion scattergun can do the trick, ive heard

[winter hazel]

yep

on my andromeda, its dps with attritions are enough without distortion weapons

[neon tartan]

@winter hazel which npc do you talk to for the group ert missions?

I have ert but have never seen a group one

[winter hazel]

no npc just one bounty hunting tab on contracts

[neon tartan]

I just get 30k ones

[winter hazel]

do you have the freelancer assessment

[worthy scroll]

For ERTs a Connie with almost any loadout is enough.

[neon tartan]

What's that?

[winter hazel]

it's one necessary

[neon tartan]

How do you do it?

One has never come up for me

Or I'd have done it

[winter hazel]

if it doesn't appear you might have already done it

[neon tartan]

I've done all the assessment ones

[winter hazel]

ok

[neon tartan]

Is it on group people in a cave?

If so I haven't done it

[winter hazel]

is the group one you have only 26k

[neon tartan]

Yeah

[winter hazel]

no not the cave one

[neon tartan]

It's find people in a cave

Oh

Ive never had a group bounty

[winter hazel]

is it called the pro tem certification

[neon tartan]

I have no certifications

Missions

[winter hazel]

is it just called group warrant?

[neon tartan]

They are all evict illegal people, mrt hrt ert etc.

I'm not sure I'll check now

[winter hazel]

so no group warrants or anything?

[neon tartan]

No

[winter hazel]

if so you will have do a character reset

[neon tartan]

Would where I am make a difference?

[winter hazel]

I had that glitch where I had no group contracts

[neon tartan]

I'm at hurstob

Hurston

[oak lake]

Gotta be at HUR or CRU

[winter hazel]

Hurston should be fine

[neon tartan]

Ok

How do you reset character

To fix it

[winter hazel]

before you do that

go to crusador

[neon tartan]

I think I'm there lol

I remember travelling there earlier

[winter hazel]

check your missions

[neon tartan]

To do cargo runs

Ok

[oak lake]

Hurston and crusader are different planets 30 mil apart

[neon tartan]

Il

Ik

[winter hazel]

if you don't have pro tem then you have to character reset

[neon tartan]

I saw some trading routes at crusader

So I went there

I'm pretty sure I docked there so that's good

I'll check now about the missions

[oak lake]

The missions only appear while you're around one of those two planets

[winter hazel]

are you at PO?

[neon tartan]

Ok I'm at the port at crusader

[winter hazel]

port olisar?

[neon tartan]

Bounty extraction mission, suspect apprehension contract, and then the usually mrt

Yes

[winter hazel]

so nothing called pro tem?

[winter hazel]

you'll have to character rest

[neon tartan]

Ok

How do I do that

[winter hazel]

first unequip everything from your ships

like guns and system components

then log off then go to the website

[neon tartan]

What about rented ships?

I have a ton from the event

Will they go

[winter hazel]

no

none of your ships will

your equipped things might

only if they are modded

not the default items

[neon tartan]

Ok unequipped

[winter hazel]

now quit the game

[neon tartan]

Ok

Done

[winter hazel]

then go the website

log in

go to settings then there is an option on the side to character reset

do that and wait at least an hour

it recommends 15 min but that might not work

[neon tartan]

Ok

What about skins btw?

Do I deequip them?

[winter hazel]

once you go back into play you should have all your stuff except for guns, armor, ammo, and medpens/oxypens

oh I think you should unequip them

I've lost those other things even when I unequip them

[neon tartan]

Do I deequip armour then too

Actually my armour sucks so idc

I need a new pair

Ok I've done the character reset

So now I just wait?

Wait do I lose auec

[winter hazel]

you wait

you don't lose any money

[neon tartan]

Ok phew

[winter hazel]

wait at least an hour

you will have to redo all of the bounty hunting missions

[neon tartan]

It says though on the website that money will be reset

[winter hazel]

the times that I have done it it hasn't reset my money

I have done it three times

[neon tartan]

Oh so do my reputations reset

Like with the bounty hunting people

[winter hazel]

your reputation doesn't reset

only the assessment missions you will have to do again

[neon tartan]

Ohh

Gotcha

Well fingers crossed this works cause if my auec goes it'll be really annoying lol

[winter hazel]

I've never had my money go

all it says on the website is "Your starting aUEC will be set to match your Long Term Persistence Ledger."

so no money should be lost

[neon tartan]

Ok done

I really hope this works!

Tysm for your help btw

I really appreciate it

[winter hazel]

no problem

where do I go to rent free ships?

is that still going on?

[neon tartan]

Go to drake place @winter hazel

On the floor with the ships

At the back there's a tunnel

[winter hazel]

what planet?

[neon tartan]

That leads to another room

It's in spaceport at new babage

So microtech

[winter hazel]

ok thanks

I'll check it out

[neon tartan]

And in the tunnel there are some terminals

Ok

You can rent nearly every ship

Even the reclaimer

[winter hazel]

nice

[neon tartan]

The sickest ship of them all

I can't wait for them to add salvaging and stuff into the game

Those mechanics sound so cool

[tribal goblet]

Orion when

[tribal goblet]

I assume you're talking about the orion

[rare hazel]

Good play list for mining:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0rKuCwKZzFUJ46dKXt59Nu?si=338706f84b9140dd

If you have another good suggestion lemme know 🙂

[tribal goblet]

@rare hazel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytWz0qVvBZ0

[balmy knot]

how do you load a greycat roc on the cutlass?

[oak lake]

fly cutty to any place you can whip out roc

drive roc into cutty

[balmy knot]

ok

what's the best place for that? other than NB

[oak lake]

almost any ground station across the planet will let you whip it out, NB has a specific area for pulling out ground vehicles (at the spaceport) and so does lorville (perimeter stations)

[balmy knot]

thanks

If i load my ROC into someone else's cutlass, and they store it. will it keep the ROC?

as long as I don't claim it?

[oak lake]

Good question

I think if you're both online, not sure tho

[cinder steppe]

Is selling Slam available again?

iirc they disabled it some time ago

[glad trench]

can you sell hadanite at the cru space stations?

[crimson mantle]

You can usually sell it right where you mine it 😄
https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Hadanite

[glad trench]

Awesome thank you

[north oyster]

If at a space station, the admin office does buy it. For best price, sell at outpost stations that have "Mining" in their name

[hollow kiln]

Hi @north oyster I took your advice and found this discord. I'm the person you helped with mining yesterday!

I've purchased the prospector, but since my initial goal was to use the ROC, I decided I'd fill that vehicle's cargo first, to learn the ropes. I was on Ariel, and it powered off due to overheating. I played with the knobs, but could not get it to go. After waiting a really long time, it was able to move, but only for like 1 minute at a time.

I was wondering if anyone has any insights into that.

I just pulled my MAX out of storage, which contains the ROC, and even now, it's overheated

[north oyster]

Great to hear from you! For the ROC, I would recommending abandoning it and reclaim it. Also, you usually can't lose it and reclaim it on the same planet (unless they fixed it). Just pull your MAX out on the pad then back the ROC out. They will confiscate it. Then go claim a new one

I've had the ROC fail a number of times and there is no way to really repair it in the game

[hollow kiln]

If only I could power it up to make it exit the MAX :/

[foggy stone]

I had a similar experience. It is usually the temperature of the moon and the heat from running the equipment that makes it power down until the equipment cools, which could be an hour or longer IRL. Try to stay on the dusk or dawn side of moons that are known for high temps. (Ariel is 280-300 and my ROC powers down about 250 -280) load up your suit, make a crate and put it in your Cutty before claiming your ROC. Also, yes go to a different planet to claim

[timber flame]

how do we mark a rock we wanna come back to? lol

[foggy stone]

Oh and don’t be dumb like me and leave the tractor beam on non-stop, it does increase the heat

[hollow kiln]

I was able to mine some Hadanite, but this refinery seems to not handle it? I'm at HUR L2

Unless one can't retrieve things from stored ships? Or stored ROCs in stored ships?

[somber trail]

hadanite is sold directly afaik

doesn't get refined

[hollow kiln]

Couldn't do that either

[somber trail]

might have to take it out of the roc and put it as a box in your main ship

[hollow kiln]

"select location"...no options

hehe ships have storage for that?

TIL...

[hollow kiln]

So, I went to the ROC, which is in the MAX, opened the cargo, and got the option to put the cargo into a box. Must one carry the box into the station to sell its contents?

Because I left the box in the MAX, and the ore console's got nothing for me

[somber trail]

you should be able to just leave the box in the MAX

[hollow kiln]

That's what I was hoping for, but it seems this is not the case

One slow walks when carrying the box. It's gonna be a huge slog to bring it to the kiosk...and I have a feeling it'll be for nothing

slow carries the box to the kiosk...

yeah, futile

[winter hazel]

just did my first cargo mission in a caterpillar and only profited ~120k trading fireworks, are there any more profitable commodities cuz it was really not worth it compared to bounty hunting

[hollow kiln]

I stashed the box in HUR L2, in case someone thinks of something

Watching a mining guide, and it seems the author didn't take into consideration that these objects orbit and move relative to each other. The guide says to go to CRU L1, which is near CRU L3. Except they're currently on the complete opposite side of the solar system from each other

[jolly bronze]

That just sounds like someone made a mistake. L1 and L3 will always be directly opposite each other as they're at lagrange points

[hollow kiln]

Ahhh he said HUR L3, not CRU L3

[oak lake]

I wasn't aware orbits were implemented. I think planets spin but i don't think planets orbit

[hollow kiln]

aww

[hollow kiln]

So I "boxed" the hadanite I had in my ROC, and carried it to the refinery. Select ore trading console, select a location...nada

it never gives me any options to sell the stuff

Now I'm carrying it in my inventory, still nothing

Missing the secret sauce

[ember star]

Is it possible to fill up your Novikov armor with Hadanite then run to your ship.. then switch to Pembroke armor fill that up and the inventory stays?

[ember star]

@north oyster I know you have an answer for me ^^

[north oyster]

As long as the armor is in your inventory the inventory should persist. I've done just that, what you're talking about. I've filled up three different armor sets before, then equipped them standing at the admin terminal to sell them off

[ember star]

Time to go buy multiple pieces of Pembroke and Novikov then.

Also... I knew if anyone would have done this already it would have been you

[north oyster]

Only two, can't swap more than that

[ember star]

How come?

[north oyster]

You can't control which gets equipped if you have more than two

[ember star]

Ah.. so those two and the backpack armor

[north oyster]

I kept two backpacks, two Pembroke, etc.

[ember star]

gotcha so two of each high inventory armor

[north oyster]

If picking up off of the ground, it'll take awhile. Real fast if transferring from ROC

[ember star]

If only the Hornet's cargo was accessible like the ROC

Thanks! Reminder.. stay away from mining outposts! 😆

[runic scarab]

Best way to sell hadanite is at the terminals on surface of moons and shit at the mining outposts. Refineries actually don't buy gems because there is no refining to do to them

[inner totem]

Hows the current state of mining? i havent played since middle of 2020 and getting the itch to dust off my argo mole.

[inner totem]

So, apparently someone stole my table and stuff from my argo moles mess hall.

[lavish monolith]

The question is, why are you flying all the way to a Refinery Station, you can literally sell it anywhere except there? Fly to the outpost next to where you mined and sell it there , if you REALLY wanna sell it at CRU L1 or wherever, you can only do that in the Galeria in the admin office

Hadanite is not an ore, that's why you can't sell it there

Feel free to ask other questions in PM, i have some experience with mining

[somber trail]

they probably assumed it was the same as any normal ore

but yeah, gems are different, they're more readily saleable near to where you mine them

[terse fable]

122k profit trading fireworks with a C2 for 21 mins work. Decent I think?

[cinder steppe]

how much did you invest?

[terse fable]

867k

[cinder steppe]

also I recommend using https://sc-trade.tools/home to find the most profitable route

[oak lake]

I hear quantanium mining makes good money with a mole

[merry saddle]

I'm doing this delivery route mission.. first mission I've done. The pick up package icon at the location (calhoun emergency shelter) shows under the ground.. I've looked all around and inside the building.. can't find any pickup. What's it look like?

[north oyster]

unfortunately, that mission is a bust. That's a continual bug that pops up on some of the delivery missions

The pip should always be in the vending machine for you to access the package

[merry saddle]

oki thank you

[hollow kiln]

@lavish monolith I must have confused a quantanium video with hadanite. Thanks for the info!

@runic scarab yeah, the more you know, right? 🙂 thanks

[lavish monolith]

Probably 😁

[quasi cloak]

If mining with a roc and cutlass is the a way unload ore out of roc and put it into the cutlass? I am a noob thanks

[north oyster]

when you land at the outpost, just sell it from the ROC that is in the cutty. You don't have to do anything, when you go to the terminal, it will see the gems in the ROC

you don't have to take the ROC out or anything

And you don't have to box the gems either

[quasi cloak]

It would be nice if mining and the rock fills up that you can unload it in the cutlass and keep mining

Then head to the mining terminal and sell it all

[north oyster]

The main thing of why to not do that is lack of persistence from a 30K hitting you. Once that is fixed it might be a matter of how much food and drink you have until you run out of room and deliver about 2million aUEC to the terminal

[quasi cloak]

Yea agreed but can it be done or is that coming someday

[coarse cape]

You can unload the cargo into a box once you park it inside your ship

[lavish monolith]

That is possible but i wouldn't recommend because you would likely loose it with a 30k

Better just sell it

[frail roost]

I ran the numbers on the 3 most "popular" Commodity Price List items:

AV profit 2.01%
Construction Mats profit 3.01%```

It's not even close.

Note this was done with the highest/lowest prices in my List page.

[north oyster]

Ship Bed Log Out - don't do it, unless you are a fan of Russian Roulette

[median summit]

Love Russian Roulette

[north oyster]

LOL, then go for it

[balmy knot]

Why can't you sell raw ore straight from the Prospector?

[oak lake]

Does anyone have links to Mole loadouts that work well for them?

[unique solar]

You can, but only at a refinery

[balmy knot]

Thanks

[silver mist]

Anyone got that chart that has the best routes?

[fallen musk]

Anyone know if there's a vehicle console on the moon Yela?

[left crag]

Hey there, fellow Citizens! I have a mining related question!

Is it possible to adjust your mining laser 1% at a time? Instead of 3-7% at a time?

And is it supposed to be completely unresponsive for periods of up to 5-10 seconds at a time?

[tardy flower]

You can adjust the sensibiliy of your mining laser by adjusting thé sensibility of your mouse or Hotas.

Gameglass Can be a good help too.

For thé unresesponsitivity it's maybe due to lag server?

[glad trench]

Yeah the unresponsive is the server and game

[left crag]

Right, thank you. I just wanted to figure out if it was the server or a built-in thing to make mining harder 🙂

[tardy flower]

No they are piracy, indtability, resitance, and volatile Quantainium for that 😁

[storm dove]

hmm.... i wonder... is it possible to transfer cargo from one ship to another one?

[pallid temple]

No

[obsidian stone]

How often do the Price Alerts update? I have no overstock.

[tardy flower]

Not yet.

[tardy flower]

Every 30min Price alertes are update.

[obsidian stone]

Thanks.

[north oyster]

One other thing to keep in mind is that some lasers have a delayed response. The Helix has a 50% response lag.

Add to that server lag and you have a dangerous career as a miner

[tardy flower]

You'r welcome

[left crag]

I am using the Lancet MH1, so no danger there. But good to know, thanks!

[quasi cloak]

What is the average amount of money can you expect mining with a roc?

[glad trench]

Depends on ur rng for finding hadanite

[dusky kernel]

has cargo hauling been fixed yet?

[still junco]

how will Orion work

since MOLE is a smaller ship and has 3 lasers

will they just pack lasers into Orion

more lasers*

[blissful oxide]

No one know

[blissful oxide]

Commodities are profitable

[hollow kiln]

Once one refines ores...what do you do with it?

[marble pollen]

Load it onto a cargo ship and sell it at one of the 3 mega cities

[hollow kiln]

So go to any admin office in a big city?

Because those mega cities are rather large

[marble pollen]

not admin, Trade & Development Division and such

[dusky kernel]

cheers

[coarse cape]

On full hadanite prob 200k if you can sell it

And not 30k

[hollow kiln]

ahh right, thanks

[storm dove]

Any idea what happens to cargo that's in a free rental ship, when rental time expires? I have about 200k aUEC worth of stuff but shop takes only small amount at a time...

[coarse cape]

Prob goes away

[storm dove]

That's what I was thinking too.. luckily that amount is covered after one good ROC run though...

[somber trail]

I think it’s meant to have mining drones?

[still junco]

neat, and would make sense so there is an actual reason to jump from MOLE to Orion based on different gameplay

[somber trail]

orion would have a multitude of advantages beside

larger cargo space, harder for lone pirates to tackle, onboard refinery, able to easily deal with larger rocks without specialized heads

[storm dove]

there is supposed to be No Questions Asked terminal in CRU-L4 station, any idea where?

[tardy flower]

Hé you'r doing bad things 😁

[storm dove]

lol i wanted to give a try for trading Widow.... too bad that Grim Hex takes too tiny amounts at a time 😛

[crimson mantle]

It's hidden past the construction bits in the locker room I believe

[storm dove]

ty

1617 units of it in a rental ship, renting time ends in 13 hrs or so, no time to sell all for profit in GH... got to get rid off it and lose money :/

luckily loss is not too much... one good ROC run and it's covered

[somber trail]

could always try logging off and on to find fresh terminals on other servers? i think that works?

[quasi cloak]

So not all stations buy hadanite ?

I I mean at terminals

[quasi cloak]

What do mean if I can sell it ? Sorry I am a noob

[north oyster]

Yes, the stations on the planets buy hadanite and the Admins at the orbital stations also buy hadanite

If you find an outpost with "mining" in the name, you get about 10% more in the sell price

Not sure what @coarse cape meant by "if you can sell it" because there is normally not a buy issue with selling gems, as far as I know

[coarse cape]

Oh. Bc last time I went severs were dying and couldn’t sell stuff lmao

[glossy peak]

what are good mining lasers for quant mining in a prospector?

[coarse cape]

I like using lancet

[frail roost]

Lancet head
    -Reiger C3
    -Surge
    -FLTR-XL```

Pop the Surge for the first break, I don't recommend using it for subsequent breaks.

Made a cool 10mil mining since they added Passives with that kit.

[coarse cape]

Yeah mining been pretty nice just annoying having to rebuy them each time you blow up or 30k

[glossy peak]

i just realised ive been using an arbor for the last 6 hours, when i have a helix

[coarse cape]

Loool

[glossy peak]

somehow got quant with it tho

[coarse cape]

[glossy peak]

is it normal for your propsector to try to eat you?

[frail roost]

Relax. Embrace Death.

[north oyster]

She loves you so much she wants to eat you. One thing I do when it's bad is that I initiate entering the ship but I step way back to break the animation. Once it's run a full cycle, then I enter the ship. Also step forward when at the top of the ladder to get in the cabin faster

[oak lake]

If the mole is a medium mining ship, what is a large one

[frail roost]

Orion

[oak lake]

yoo

is the orion just a hull e with some mining shit on it

[frail roost]

It runs with a crew of 1 to 7 people

Supposed to have an onboard refinery and stuff.

Quite different from the Hulls, I think.

It's also RSI manufactured, not MISC

[coarse cape]

Yeah it’s going to have one

And mining drones from the looks of it

[crisp bobcat]

Can I just mine and refine for a week and then offload the refined materials or does it not work like that?

[frail roost]

With the Orion? Probably gonna be a massive pain in the ass to do solo.

[foggy temple]

what tool should i use for finding trade routes?

[frail roost]

sc-trade.tools

[somber trail]

think he means right now

[crisp bobcat]

Yeah no sorry right now.

[frail roost]

Right now, that's the easiest and safest way to make shitloads of money.

[crisp bobcat]

Got a prospector and a catepillar

[frail roost]

Fill a Prospector with Quantanium and it sells for 5.9mil

Not Prospector

Caterpillar

[somber trail]

so you can bank up refinery jobs at a reinfery

not claim them

and then take them all a week later?

[frail roost]

Yeah

Couple hours mining a night, refining on the lowest speed/highest return option because speed doesn't matter, then load as many as will fit without overflow into your ship at the end of the week? Tons of $$$

Full Cat sells for 5.06mil, sorry.

5.9 is the Herc

[crisp bobcat]

Thanks everyone

[oak lake]

I'm not entirely sure how mining heads work, I've got a MOLE and I'm not sure how I should be equipping it

Does anyone have any recommended loadouts?

[crisp bobcat]

The most recent one thats pinned is pretty good

[whole socket]

the HELIX mining head is the best in slot for the s1 mining head, which the prospector uses. almost 100k

[crisp bobcat]

video

[frail roost]

HELIX head is highest power, but Lancet reduces Instability and Resistance the most.

I run Lancet with Surge consumables to pop 5k Quantanium rocks to great effect.

[whole socket]

thank you, good to know. the few times i try to take out my prospector, i've never quite figured out how to use the consumables...

[north oyster]

the ore storage bags are suspended but the configuration it totally different than the cargo grid on the Hull series of ships. The only similarities is that they are both space ships, long and have people on them.

[hollow kiln]

If one gets all the details right, how much quantanium ore should one expect a prospector run to yield?

I was able to get a full cargo load, and after processing (slowest time/highest yield), I have 80...units

Presuming I make it to the MAX I just put it in. Elevator at ARC L1 isn't letting me off 😦

[oak lake]

thanks

[hollow kiln]

Had to backspace

So yeah, I have a MAX parked at ARC L1, where my quantanium got refined, I transferred it, then took the elevator to hell, had to backspace. Spawned there, retrieved the MAX, am in it, but no cargo. I know there are cargo rendering bugs, but is there any way to "see" what the ship's carrying?

[hollow kiln]

Well that was disappointing

[paper pewter]

Does admin trade terminal say the freelancer has cargo?

[coarse cape]

unless you claimed it, it should still have catho

cargo*

but check a trade terminal

[north oyster]

It might still be there, it doesn't always render

[fringe lichen]

Hello! I’m looking to rent a Prospector, and the prices seem odd - ~150k UEC for 30 days from HURL1. Is that correct, or a display bug?

[hollow kiln]

It was there. There was just not a lot of it.

I still haven't figured ore percentages

[hollow kiln]

The guide that's pinned here mentions a "surge" module, but it seems the game does not have this

Or is it that some items are only available from certain places?

I'm browsing the clothing trading console at the refinery at ARC L1. This also doesn't list the Helix mining head

[jolly bronze]

This

[hollow kiln]

@jolly bronze Thanks

[fathom silo]

Is the mining nodes back in Arial?

[stable gazelle]

I use this site to find where items are as they are only on sale in certain locations, such as surge https://finder.deepspacecrew.com/

[tardy flower]

Mining "nodes" what do you mean?

[reef narwhal]

How is that on one day Helium can be present for sale at a location and the next day it's completely gone?

Do they update shit that quickly?

[teal crater]

did they fix cargo running? i want to buy the c2 but...

[cinder steppe]

buy it for later

[teal crater]

so that is a no

kekw

[glossy peak]

where do i get Surge?

[dim warren]

HurL1

@glossy peak go to HurL1

[glossy peak]

thanks

is there a terminal i can use to buy it because i cannot select it

[rain pivot]

Trying to get started mining, suggestions?

[teal crater]

f it

bought it

take my money Chris

[cinder steppe]

Let's gooo

I have it as well

[teal crater]

now i should get the nova... i did hear it was broken as in it has no armor

[cinder steppe]

I'm waiting for BMM sale

3.5k scu

[teal crater]

well wasn't it's release delayed again?

[cinder steppe]

It's on the progress tracker

[teal crater]

onlt ship i am hungry for is the polaris

[cinder steppe]

But I can buy it with alien week on the 12th

[teal crater]

only*

[dusky kernel]

is cargo hauling a viable method for money gain again?

[teal crater]

nice

[cinder steppe]

If you're lucky

[teal crater]

i have a c2 starlifter and 4 mil to spend can someone learn me how to do proper trading

[crimson mantle]

Titanium and fluorine are just about the only thing that can fill a C2 now that the event is over: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522C2%2520Hercules%2522,%2522investment%2522:4000000,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:20000%257D

[teal crater]

thanks will check that out

[north oyster]

you are VERY limited with a rental, and more so with the Prospector than any other ship. First, you can make no modifications and the default laser head on the rental is trash. So you will be limited in the type of ore you can harvest for refining. The best thing is to do a short rental to learn the systems and methods, understanding your earnings will be underwhelming.

I would encourage you to consider doing a ROC/Cutlass rental. The immediate income from this is way more than the time and effort from a rental Prospector.

Then you can make enough to buy the ROC (only 172K), then enough to buy the Cutlass (~2m) and then enough to buy your self a Prospector. Then you will be on the topside of starting to make some credits in the 'verse

[agile tulip]

What's the eaisest way to make money currently?

[teal crater]

bounties

and trading second if you have a good ship and Auec

[north oyster]

Bounties have been "most favored" method the past two patches, that of course will change, but for now it is a good method to earn, though not my favorite

Trade is solid broken atm

I bought a Tonk so I could have something to do with my C2, LOL

[worthy scroll]

Make box missions great again.

Plz.

[north oyster]

true that

I miss the box missions from last year, the current rendition is garbage

[worthy scroll]

Yeah. Literally massacred my boy.

[teal crater]

tonk is cool but armor is broken besides not much to do with it

[north oyster]

CIG totally shot themselves in the foot with what they did to deliveries.

[north oyster]

mostly tongue in cheek, but some of it not

[worthy scroll]

I don't know who thought that was a good idea. The only thing I can think of is they're deliberately making some things pointless to do so they can force everyone to do something else, in an effort to test out that thing.

[teal crater]

box missions was the only good way to earn auec for people with starter ships

the ones you want to get onboard with the game...

[worthy scroll]

Heck I did them because I enjoyed it. I made millions doing those.

I'm not really into combat stuff. I only do it right now because it's where the money is.

[north oyster]

They tend to drive what the focus is and it's not "cool, let's play this ..." and the reality that it is a sandbox development and they want us to focus and do certain actions. All the while destroying the one thing that many beginners learned the game and then stayed because it was worth it.

[manic whale]

You cant blame them for needing players to test certain area of the demo. I wanted to write "game", but we´re not in game, lets face it. We are all alpha testers, there´s no space to demand something at the expense of development. As strange as it sounds, I personally take this "game" as released, with more and more content being added and I enjoy it. I´ve only been in SC for 1/2y and as lots of players are writing, 2020-2021 are the years where SC is starting to roll. But I understand players being here for years.

[gray osprey]

Is the commodity pricing in the journal useless without the event now?

Everything is understock except processed food

[north oyster]

I think so, obviously fireworks wouldn't be needed, etc. I've not tested it and my C2 is parked in the hanger until I learn otherwise

[glad trench]

How good is cargo for big bucks?

Compared to mining and bounties

[coarse cape]

Is cargo better now or is it still ass?

Been wanting to get back into it

[tribal bloom]

its worse

quantities are crap

[coarse cape]

ok

[silk delta]

Anyone else having trouble finding quantanium in the Aaron Halo, moreso than how it was a week ago?

[vast summit]

Unless you have a ton of starting capital. Consumer goods are very profitable, but have a high up-front cost.

[glad trench]

Favorite moons for roc mining?

Hadanite*

[crimson mantle]

The data speaks for itself 😄 You only have 2 real options: https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Ground%2520vehicle%2522,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%2522Hadanite%2522%255D,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522%257D

[tribal bloom]

daymar arial

and aberdeen

are best

magda isnt bad either

[paper pewter]

can i request help to crack a rock here?

[fallow palm]

how do i take ore from inventory to hand. it wont let me deposit it into prison ore deposits

[paper pewter]

i thought the machine only takes from inventory not hand

[fathom silo]

Have they fixed the mining om Arial?

[tame elbow]

Arial has plenty of gems and rocks

I checked it last week

[fathom silo]

Ok. They had a periode where it was All gone 😁 thx

[wary gulch]

is ROC mining making more than quanta atm?

[glad trench]

Quanta is kinda safer cuz u don't spend long without refining

Roc can go long time from refinery and get 30k

[fallen musk]

Yeah as good as roc mining feels, crashing after getting 200k worth of ore sucks

[sick oxide]

what do yall trade now that commodities are mostly understocked

[unreal widget]

roc has never failed me, easy millions 🙂

trading has cost me millions though :p

[fallen musk]

What do you do when server crashes tho o.o

[unreal widget]

it always does lol, much worse though when you have a load of 1.5 mil and you 30k

roc mining full load is anything between 30 to 50 mins

[fallen musk]

Damn

I wish they fixed 30ks

I keep running into issues roc mining

[unreal widget]

they will, slowly but surly

[fallen musk]

Like the right bar not filling up at max power

[unreal widget]

surely*

yeah the bugs suck =/

[glad trench]

How do u get a load of 1.5 mill

[polar patio]

lyria ftw

35 minutes for, from the raffinery to the prospector, flying to arccorp, flying to lyria, flying to sal-2, flying ~30-40km to "the spot", searching for a quant rock, mining said quant rock, flying back to arc l-1, going to the raffinery and setup the work order for 3052 quant

[north oyster]

do you use the Lancet or the Helix? Obviously the surge is required also

[polar patio]

lancet

[north oyster]

I've not done much Quantainium mining since they took Levski away. I just got spoiled with Aaron's Halo only 15 seconds from Delemar. Talk about easy coin, that was as good as the laranite trucking days.

[hollow sedge]

Whats the point of refining?

So it stablizes quant? But what about other stuff? Is the demand for refined minerals easier to sell off?

[outer glade]

Doubles the price

[coarse cape]

iirc refining minerals let’s you sell them at more places compared to unrefined. Plus you can stack refinery jobs to fill a cargo ship

[hollow sedge]

Right but halves the qty so not relevant

Ok so demand is better

[crimson mantle]

If you choose the efficient refinery methods, you get ~95% of the input back as refined

[bitter iris]

Whats a typical percentage return for trading? Like if I have 500k to use on wares and go sell it somewhere else, will I earn 100k? 50k?

[oak lake]

I've had trouble previously loading up on 200k worth of something and then not being able to sell it since the places that want it only want like 2000 units of the many thousands I'd have

[manic whale]

100k

[bitter iris]

So 20 % ish. Cool, thanks!

[hollow sedge]

Gotchya thanks!

[polar patio]

you can sell 10.000 quant without problems at area18.

at TDD

[blissful oxide]

10.000 scu ?

or 100 scu ?

[polar patio]

100scu

10.000scu would be what? 350 prospectors?

i doubt you are ever faced with that problem 🙂

Max 5.000.000 units + 50.000/min

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Quantainium

[blissful oxide]

I have 52 234 units to sell
I wondered if I could sell that in one go, I guess it's no 😂

[polar patio]

well sure you can

or do you mean 52234 scu?

[blissful oxide]

Nah, 522scu
Do you think I will be able to sell in one go ? 😮

[polar patio]

Max 5.000.000 units + 50.000/min

yes

maybe you have to wait 2-3 mins total :p

[blissful oxide]

Damn

[paper pewter]

10-30% profit margin is expected
but i went to a port, and 5 of the 8 commodities were sold out including waste....

[oak lake]

Ive had no trouble buying goodies only selling them

[paper pewter]

i went from taking 3 days to selling a freelancer of drugs to 3 days to sell a titan of drugs

[errant lark]

alright lad, whats the top hotspots for quant mining these days

patch always seems to bring new horizons

[crimson mantle]

On PTU or live?

[errant lark]

Live, Aarons belt still good?

[crimson mantle]

If you want to stick to space, the L3s are better: https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Spaceship%2522,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%2522Quantainium%2520%2528Raw%2529%2522%255D,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522%257D

More info here: https://sc-trade.tools/deposits/Asteroid (Q-Type) (bottom)

[stable gazelle]

I’ve been getting lots of quant in Lyria

[polar patio]

you just need to know where that stuff spawns

i never search for more than 10mins, for a full load

[crisp bobcat]

Is there a place that shows where to buy items? I am looking for the Lance mining head

[tribal bloom]

https://finder.deepspacecrew.com/

[blissful oxide]

damn

[polar patio]

👍

where did you get all that quant?

[silk delta]

@crimson mantle , I don't quite understand your Ore Composition charts where it lists Ore Composition % against Probability, could you help me out with what that char is intended for?

[crimson mantle]

It's a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantile_function 😄

"50% of the rocks will have 20% or less of a mineral"

is how it's read 🙂

[silk delta]

Thank you! that makes much more sense now

[blissful oxide]

Lyria

[hollow sedge]

Has trading been fixed yet:?

[silk delta]

Depends on what you mean by fixed, but probably not

[hollow sedge]

Ffs. Guess i wont be playing till next update still then 😦

[polar patio]

had multiple 30k the last days

[worthy scroll]

They were saving them up during the event. Almost no 30k's during Invictus, then they start coming when it's over.

[coarse cape]

Nah there were 30k’s during invictus lol. Had the most 30k’s I’ve experience in invictus alone

Everyday during invictus till the 29th when I left for my travels I had 1-3 30k’s lol

[hollow kiln]

The game's been incredibly stable for me since adjusting the page file

This "30k"...I've never seen it

What exactly is it supposed to denote? A server de-sync?

googles...

Yeah, that's exactly it. Can't fault the game for that. That's just the nature of the internets

[worthy scroll]

30k is a catchall error that basically means something happened to the connection between you and the server.

Most of the time it's because the server took a dump.

[granite lichen]

hi, got a question, how does the commodity inventory refilling on the outpost go?

trying to buy some astanite on Ita

and in SC trade tool says that it generates 3000/min

but i've been waiting and the current availabilty doesnt change

plus it doesnt say anything on the storage inventory on the tsc

[hollow kiln]

bwahaha stepped into the prospector...the door killed me

earlier, walking up stairs in Microtech killed me

[crimson grove]

Does anyone know how to trade? Been looking for decent routs and when i find one its depleted.

[granite lichen]

i think that they are all depleted

the post dont generate enough material to trade

[crimson grove]

even normal things?

[granite lichen]

scrap etc... i think it can be done

but the profit is really small

i spent like half an hour to get 6000 Astanite

[winter garnet]

quick question, has the 3.13.1L patch been released already? Because i noticed that cargo is rendered again in my ships. And I want to go mining but don't want to have all my refinery-orders deleted because of a patch ^^

[hollow kiln]

Every time I get into a prospector at CRU L1 it kills me 😦

The character ends up inside the geometry of the ship and I'm dead

[silk delta]

You need to crouch as you climb the ladder and enter the prospector door

[hollow kiln]

hehe hoping that's not a troll. So, crouch first, then do the action? Or attempt to crouch during the climbing animation?

I'm like 5 deaths in, and I swear I've already tried the latter

Make that 6

Crouching as the animation finishes did the trick! Thanks!

[upper bloom]

how do i use sc trade tools

nvm

[crimson mantle]

I'm always happy to help if you have any issues 😄

[upper bloom]

I just accidentally put a comma in the start investment box

Like 100,000

Rather than 100000

[outer orchid]

Hi, guys! I'm in Aberdeen, with a full load of Bexalite and the HDMS wont see it. Don't they buy this stuff there?

[rain quail]

Raw ore can be sold at refineries, Processed ore at the 3 major cities as far as I know.

[crimson mantle]

Only refineries buy non-gems minables: https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer?q=%257B%2522itemName%2522:%2522Bexalite%2522,%2522itemQuantity%2522:1%257D

[outer orchid]

Is that Hadanite that these guy buy??

[crimson mantle]

Yes, and the other gems from the ROC

[outer orchid]

Why not from the prospector?

[crimson mantle]

I don't make the game 😄 I don't know
Only refineries buy from the prospector

[outer orchid]

oh, is that so? Damn Roberrts! LOL
Thanks, man!

[delicate girder]

Can you use more than one of the same mining buf (consumable or not) when mining and, if so, will it have additive affects?

Where's a good place to mine Bexalite?

[outer orchid]

yES.

[halcyon sinew]

idk if this got answered but the 3000/min is in units, 100 units makes 1 scu, so its actually 30 a min, more importantly, that stock is shared across all servers, so its probably depleted, with the release of the c2 and m2 theres a LOT of people hammering trading routes right now, most of the good ones are in a constant state of depletion currently

[delicate girder]

How long can you hold quantanium in your ship?

[coarse cape]

15mins @delicate girder

[tepid basin]

@hidden basalt Bro. Not Cool.