industrial-professions

[mint iron]

ive just placed a box on a shelf where it told me to place it yet i didnt complete the mission

it shows the dropoff marker and box marker even tho its in place

and i didnt get any money

[minor moon]

Where can I sell Vice? I am trying at GH but I have about 7 SCU of it and GH will only take a tiny bit of it at a time

[lofty crest]

thats the illegals trade atm im afraid

[lavish marlin]

A weapon just dissappeared from my ship

wrong channel sorry

[hollow sedge]

Idk how can it be so hard to fix trading for so long. Just change some numbers around, sheesh

[idle blade]

is the Aaron halo gone? i can't seem to stop in it anymore

[hexed breach]

you need to know when to drop out of quantum

[ebon moon]

It's probably not their focus in this part of the Alpha testing

[idle blade]

I’ve been dropping out the same point i always have in the past. I noticed theres a ring missing on the map (the ring delamar used to be on)

[hexed breach]

then don't use that way point

[idle blade]

Obviously no help. Asked if the halo was gone, not if i know where to cut my engines rofl

[hexed breach]

you asking for impossible since there is no way point to jump anymore how about using other known routes instead?

[arctic basin]

I was using this just a few hours ago - When to drop https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/kyln1j/refinery_to_aaron_halo_mining_routes/

Other then at the initial patch to 3.13 has anyone had finished refining product disappear when loaded? I just lost 42 SCU when I had it placed on my Cutty. Not sure what to do with the remaining orders.

[idle blade]

Thanks Johnny

[arctic basin]

Welcome.

[sharp rune]

that was fixed btw

ive tested it.

Cant dupe with the new refinery menus' forces u to wait for each and every individual load preventing the refinery dupe order from working (need to flood the system quick enough)

[ebon moon]

No need to be rude. Dude basically said yes by saying "Need to know when to drop out". And that's exactly what it was.

[lethal portal]

how to interprete this chart? We have probabilty of 1.0 to encounter asteroid with 50% of Q.??? I definetly can't confirm that after dozen of Q. runs in L3's

[ebon moon]

I would think of it opposite of the way you're thinking of it

Essentially 1 is "Perfect" luck, or 100% best thing you can get. Doesn't mean 100% chance. At least that's the way it appears.

[north oyster]

Wow, great find! Thanks, I made sure to download the PDF to have it on hand.

[crimson mantle]

I can help with that 😄
Probabilities goes from 0 to 1. This specific chart is called a Cumulative distribution function.

It works like this: Quantainium will be found in concentrations between 2% and 50%.
80% of Quantainium rocks will have 15% or less (x=0.8, y=14.66). A rock with 28% is better than 90% of the rocks out there.

Essentially you roll the die between 0 and 1, and the chart tells you how much Quantainium that gives you. As you can see, Quantainium is mostly found in low percentages (as the line is low for most of the graph)!

[lethal portal]

thanks, now it makes perfect sense

Just to check myselft:
So, with this numbers, that means that for every 10 scans that gives me Q-type asteroids (containing Quantanium), i will have 1 asteroid (10%) with 30% of Q. on average, ofc?

[dense fractal]

Where do you go to mine quantanium

[ebon moon]

That's my understanding of it. You gotta read it backwards. 90% (.9) of asteroids will have 30% or less.

So, that means, 10% of asteroids will have 31% or more.

[lethal portal]

of propper-type asteroids

[ebon moon]

Right

Of Q-type

There is also a chart out there that shows Q-type asteroids and their clustering amount %.

[lethal portal]

correction. Numbers for asteroids slightly less optimistic

[ebon moon]

Almost 100% of Q-Type asteroids have a cluster of 2 or more iirq

[lethal portal]

previous one was for Q. deposits (rock on the moons)

[ebon moon]

OIC. sorry, wasn't paying attention to exactly which deposits/asteroids you were showing.

[lethal portal]

and you have roughly 4% chances to find 40% Q. asteroid (out of Q-type asteroids). I mean, you can find lots of Hephestanite, Laranite, Those should be discarded from your chances

[ebon moon]

Honestly, the MicroTech moons are sweet. There is a mining guide on YT somewhere that talks about how they believe Quantanium on moons spawn. Basically, flat valleys of cold places.

I only mine 30+% quant deposits and then take off. Don't want to fill my cat with trash 😛 Typically you can find one in 30 mins or so, sometimes longer, sometimes shorter.

[lethal portal]

interesting theory, i haven't seen this video, if you can find it, pls share it here

[ebon moon]

I'll look for it

[lethal portal]

i usually go to L3's and scan in asteroids

[ebon moon]

Yeah, that's what I first did as well. It wasn't bad. I even found a 40% er doing that. I find it much more freeing than being on a moon. But I just seem to have better luck on the moon for some reason.

[lethal portal]

you use Prospector?

[ebon moon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw4ZXb07hcM&ab_channel=HawkesGaming

Ok, this is the vid. I vaguely remembered the name so it was a quick find.

And yes, I got a prospector

I'm not trying to deal with all that getting in/out stuff.

Oh, I said Microtech, I guess it's ArcCorp, lol

[ivory fox]

do I need a cargo ship to sell my refined ore?

I never did mining before

[north oyster]

Yes

[ivory fox]

damn, what's the minimum that I'd need for 2000 SCU of unrefined quantanium?

I only got a mustang and a 300i

[north oyster]

is it actually 20 SCU? You can rent a cutlass black

The refinery can't break up jobs, so it has to fit in one go

2000 mSCU

[ivory fox]

I dont know how much SCU 2000 quantainium is gonna be after refining

[north oyster]

did you put in a 100 Prospector runs?

Or is this one refinery job?

[ivory fox]

this

[north oyster]

The decimal is two places over, the way the refinery does it is confusing. It is cSCU not SCU

[pallid temple]

Yeah that's displayed in cSCU

100 cSCU makes up 1 SCU

[north oyster]

irritating

How much does the 300i hold?

[ivory fox]

800cSCU

so..8 SCU?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[ivory fox]

so i need 20SCU

[north oyster]

Yea, going to need a Cutlass Black

[ivory fox]

hope it's worth it, no idea how much 20SCU quantainium goes for

[north oyster]

88x 20?

no, that's not right

88x2000

[ivory fox]

176k is ok actually

[north oyster]

about 176k aUEC

yes

I'd suggest buying a MAX when you get a chance. Great for hauling and also for ROC usage if you do that also

120 SCU will carry about 6 Prospector loads at once

You can just about stack as many refinery jobs as you wish. I filled a CAT once (but it bugged out in 3.12.1)

A CAT full of Quantainium would be about 4.6M aUEC

A MAX full of Quan would be about 1M aUEC

[ivory fox]

im gonna get a max then prolly

since I still have 16mil

btw could I also let somebody else collect my ore or sth?

[north oyster]

no, ore collection is strictly limited to the specific user

You'll enjoy the MAX, it is a fun ship

They fixed the Thrusters and the Lights so that was excellent. Also if you get in the ship by the side door, the other door will not auto open, but just look down and you can open it with F and leave it open

[ivory fox]

i hope that's gonna be a job late

later

so miners could work together with hauler

haulers

[north oyster]

I agree, especially if in the same Org or Party

[ivory fox]

btw shouldn't a connie andromeda be also good?

[north oyster]

The complexity of making that work is there though

Yes, the connie is a great ship. Carries about 96 SCU

[ivory fox]

im gonna gewt that one tho, I like the look more than freelancer

[north oyster]

With the ramp fixed, it can also do duty with the ROC

I view the connie as one of the most original and best looking ships in the game

[north oyster]

I forgot that the MSR is also in game now to purchase

[subtle cradle]

Oh sry for the tag. Misread your comment lol

[north oyster]

oh, I saw a ping then it vanished. I thought I was just loosing my mind, LOL

[subtle cradle]

Yeah sorry about that lol

[reef sandal]

As a noob to mining what is the time to fill a MAX? And by MAX you mean a "Freelancer MAX" right?

[crimson mantle]

A Freelancer MAX hold 3.75 prospector loads, so it fills in ~4 mining trips (if you have a bit of inert in there)

Depending what you mine and how clean you mine, it will vary widly

[reef sandal]

Cheers!

[timid kraken]

Does trading work in 3.13?

[woeful moss]

Depends on what you mean with work?

[timid kraken]

as in, is a competitive way to make money

[woeful moss]

From what I've heard so far, not really

[proven moss]

any1 wanna help me mine on mole? ill pay 500k per run

[torpid mesa]

any one hiring crew or ships right now?

[hybrid vigil]

Anyone noticed this aß well ? 👍

[desert basin]

wheres a good place to mine quantum? I feel like I have been searching forever for it

[hybrid vigil]

Try Aaron Halo or Microtechs Moons

[coarse cape]

hur l3 has some good spots but might have players around

[coral ibex]

Ive had good luck at HUR-L3 but you are going to deal with astroids that cant be scanned

[desert basin]

ok cool

[coarse cape]

yeah ive had that problem as well

tho ive found less quant at aaron halo than l3

[coral ibex]

agree

[coarse cape]

i still need to rebuy all my stuff for my prospector lol

so im prob going to do a bunch of bounties

[desert basin]

oop started warping to HUR-l3 and then my game froze lol

[coarse cape]

f

anyways does anyone got decent component recommendations for the prospector. Dont need a new mining head and the new components for the head.

[coral ibex]

I used the Lancet MH1 with surge, stampede and brant I think is what they were called....worked great but sold my prospector because I had poor luck in getting my load delivered without the game crashing or buggin out on me

went with the cutlass and ROC combo so far pretty fun

surge is a must imo

[pearl briar]

Questions prolly been asked 1000 times but is there any good cargo runs?

[plain sun]

Is cargo trading still worth?

[pearl briar]

If there was any stock

[plain sun]

I'm guessing mining is better now?

[pearl briar]

From what I've heard and seen yes

[plain sun]

How much per run?

[dry beacon]

what moon is the best for moon mining?

[pearl bough]

I too would like to know.

[plain belfry]

Yesterday i was mining.
You need to refine, but, its not in calc and i just made 1 mill per hour with prospector and No-modulem inside (only lancet mining head)
I was mining in aaron halo and ussualy found 30~% quant rock of 5k mass, its 1-2x 100% quant rock of 1k mass
Prospector was everytime full or nearly full, so 20-32scu of quant.
After refine its 3150~ yield * 88 = 277k per one run.
If you are lucky and one run is per 15 mins like me you have 277*4 = 1,1M

But, you dont need to any active modules. You can mine without them. But! Passive modules could be cool.

Refining - there is new refine methods than dinyx. I personaly use Fehre refining where i have same yield but cost twice. But less time.

For example - 14k for refining 32scu of quant for 12 hours.

If somebody is interrestig about mining and would like to duo mine or more than duo mine or need help with mining, what to do etc.. We can. 🙂 🔥
Im playing alone and some friends could be usefull

[blissful oxide]

I never used other than Dinyx, but the Ferron might be a good choice
I will check the price difference next time I have a big load of quanta 😄

[plain belfry]

Yep

As i said dinyx is not good anymore for quanta... if you are playing every day better choice is Ferron

[crimson mantle]

@dry beacon
@pearl bough
It depends if you're mining with a land vehicle or a spaceship, and then again if you want to mine quantainium or not. Give a shot to https://sc-trade.tools/mining and check for yourselves what best fits your preferences 😄

[fair pumice]

Can someone explain the ROC mining to me? Going to Aberdeen right now.

[crimson mantle]

Once you have the ROC loaded in your ship, get away from the outpost (50-100km) to avoid being easily spotted by pirates.
Then it's simply a matter of flying low and using the scanner pings (TAB key by default) to spot the diamond icons.
Getting close will let you know if it's Hadanite or not (you only really want hadanite https://sc-trade.tools/ores/Ground vehicle).
Then you land, get the ROC out and mine the deposits!

Deploy the mining arm with M, use the scrolling wheel to increase laser power and keep the power gauge in the green zone.

Once fractured, vaccuum the gems by switching the laser to collect mode (right click)

You may have to stay on the gems for a while for them to be sucked up.

[plain belfry]

Lovely @crimson mantle everytime explain into details ❤️

[north oyster]

The short answer is NO, if any, it is barely. It's broken still

[north oyster]

Look Jack Acton latest video on state of trade

[torpid mesa]

long answer is trading isnt what it used to be, and honestly depending on what system your in and what your reputation is this is probably a pretty good idea of what trading in this sense will be like on game release. cargo pilots will more likely profit from doing runs for corporations and in game businesses to make big money. moving refined materials and equiptment i wouldnt expect the trading to run a high profit in the standard buy and sell sense, with the exception of vice

the quantities might go up but im guessing profit will go way down

i think the idea behind it is a combination of supply and demand as well as reputation. it helps keep people playing at theyre level

it also motivates people to participate in timed events instead of saying "well i make more on a laranite run" they might do events where medical supplies and arms and munitions are required for a warzone then all the cargo pilots would be doing missions to support the event, or terraforming a new planet or something that they need raw materials shipped for higher values. this is all just my opinion based on the information provided to us but with the increase in events lately and the quanta system feedback it makes a lot of sense

[fair pumice]

Where in Loreville is the panel to sell your trade?

[fair pumice]

Never mind. Googled this shit out 😄

What is the best ship for trade? Caterpillar? Or something else?

[torpid mesa]

catepillar is purpose built but i prefer the carrack

[fair pumice]

I have trade problems. I have cutty Black now and I use https://sc-trade.tools/ for best circular trade routes and it says to buy 4600 units of Medical supply to fill my cargo and I can only buy 32 😱

[tame elbow]

the supply refreshes over time

[crimson mantle]

New patches have a bit of a "gold rush" effect, where everyone goes back to the game to try things out. Try a commodity with higher refresh rate 🙂
https://i.imgur.com/3XNgXCy.png

[fair pumice]

ok

[crimson mantle]

Shops have a limited amount of things they buy/sell, and that amount refreshes slowly over time. That means that they can become "sold out". Not all items have the same "production rate" 🙂

[fair pumice]

I have 60% less profit when I set up the refresh rate like you show me

[crimson mantle]

Correct, the highly supplied commodities are usually less profitable 😦
You can play with the refresh rate and find something worthwhile, or wait around for the supply to go up.

There's no magic bullet for this 😢

[fair pumice]

ok. I guess i can wait 5 minutes for refresh rate at 1000

[crimson mantle]

N.B. that the refresh rate is shared between servers as well: you may have to wait more if someone else is also buying it on another server.

Also watch out for med supplies: most places don't buy much of the stuff!

You can always check the "alternative commodities" button to fill your hold with something else that will also be bought at your destination 😄

[fair pumice]

I did have med supplies to transport 😛

[fair pumice]

yeah I did figure that one out already 😄

I need to go to this location on Wala, but there is no such thing here 😮

[tame elbow]

its there

[fair pumice]

I don't see it with this stupid font

nevermind

i go somewhere else

[woeful moss]

Also you gotta remember there will be more star systems and it might be more lucrative to transport on routes between systems

[north oyster]

Trade if FUBAR still, best temper your expectations for awhile until they "fix it" for the Hercules release ... or rather they BETTER fix it for the Herc's release. I didn't buy my C2 because I wanted to haul Tonks

[torpid mesa]

i never really looked to much into the herc, kind of just assumed it was for moving tonks and dropping bombs

[north oyster]

Until the Hull series is in-game, it will be the meta trade ship of the 'verse.

642 SCU of cargo space makes it a great planet surface runner that the Hull series won't be able to do

CAT is 576 SCU

[torpid mesa]

Oh nice

I was just reading some of the roadmap for 3.14 and it's making difficult to play 3.13

[outer wagon]

Any tips scanning down the diamond icons? I can't find any on Aberdeen, I only find big rocks

[torpid mesa]

It looks like they are going to have to wipe our inventories for 3.14. like almost guarantee, so anything we make or buy in game will be gone in July?

Short burst scans they can only be detected up to 1700 m away I think. @outer wagon

[outer wagon]

What's a short burst scan? You mean not holding the thing down for long?

[torpid mesa]

Lots of quick short burst and fly low

I literally just click it over and over and over again

[outer wagon]

And what about the "zoom" option? What does that do?

[torpid mesa]

Directs the focus of the scan infront of you

A narrow band scan

Longer range but more directional

[outer wagon]

Right, so... I want it at the widest?

[torpid mesa]

Doesn't matter for the gem mining though keep it wide

[north oyster]

it's the method you're using. 1. Go Slow (maybe half optimal speed rating)
2. Scan at 100% 3. When you are over a big ore icon, do a scan there and look for the small deposits to pop up
4. They only show up under 2km, usually about 1.5km before you get a hit.
5. the diamond icon only shows up when you are about 300 meters or closer

They will "hide" in the shadow of the large ore scan returns

I normally only scan forward (one click in) instead of 360, but which ever works best for you

[outer wagon]

Ok

Will try

Thanks

[north oyster]

Aberdeen is maybe the best planet. I saw dozens of deposits when I was in the Prospector the other day. Infact, I cracked a few and picked them up my hand for a change of pace.

Pembroke armor is a must if you don't already have it

[outer wagon]

Yeah I got that

[copper pebble]

is mining on planets or asteroids better right now

also what to mine and where (not quantinium)

please help

[crimson mantle]

Depending on the resistance and value, you can choose what to go after: https://sc-trade.tools/ores/Spaceship

Then use the commodities filter to see where to get the most of your chosen ores: https://sc-trade.tools/mining

[atomic cipher]

would you say the prospector or the roc is better rn

[north oyster]

Both pretty close. ROC is quicker cash in hand but Prospector done right can be more earnings. I would give the nod to the ROC for the moment. @atomic cipher

[tame elbow]

@crimson mantle do you have a favorite route yet?

Or is it a secret

[north oyster]

They both take time and both have their associated risk/reward

[crimson mantle]

Nothing special so far 😦

[tame elbow]

Hur-L3 ➡️ CRU-L1 is still great for ship mining

This was my stockpile before the patch yeeted my refinery jobs

[atomic cipher]

what is viable right now? has anything changed or is it still laranite (if you can get enough quantity)

[crimson mantle]

Compared to 3.12

• Sell points changed for vices
• Everything else is the same

[atomic cipher]

so its still just, hope you get lucky on a server where there is plenty of stock\

[crimson mantle]

Inventories are shared across servers, so it's more "hope no one else has been trading for a while" 😄

[tame elbow]

yep

doesn't matter which server you're on

the stock will be the same

[sharp urchin]

Seems pretty frustrating still

[plain sun]

anyone wana go mining with me?

i got argo mole

[proven moss]

i need a mole pilot for a mining run. will pay 300k for a run. 150k up front

[calm gorge]

I recently got myself a mole and how come you guys are able to pay 300k for a run how do you earn so much all I earn is about 50k a run

[coarse cape]

anyone know a good place to go prospector mining to make a decent profit

[lethal portal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNU11dFBcE8

maybe numbers slightly clickbait, but not that far off

[limber kindle]

What is a good loop(from mining to refine to sell) for mining in aaron belt ?
and good trade route too 😄

[plain sun]

how do u get to aron belt?

i quantumed there and foudn an abyss of nothingness

[limber kindle]

You need to get a good timing when you stop your qt

[lethal portal]

Distances to belt. Took from Reddit post

CRU-L1 has yield bonus of 3% for Q. Makes sense to start your loop there

[ebon moon]

That is if they never release the BMM, haha.

[north oyster]

BMM is certainly anticipated, I don't recall its cargo options. Though it is touted more as a moving "vendor and sells" platform. It won't come close to the Hull D and E as to cargo though. Hull E having 98,304 SCU, which is freaking insane

[ebon moon]

Hull D & E are huge and indefensible tho. Banu is definitely less with 3,584 SCU, but I have a feeling it's going to be used more often than the HULL E and D. At least for shorter trips (1-2 star system). Hull E and D I would imagine is more for traveling vast distances.

[north oyster]

BMM can also be used side where as none of the Hull series can.

[lilac hedge]

used side? @north oyster

[ebon moon]

Maybe planetside?

I don't know if it can enter atmosphere or not. But Hull A-C can, so 🤷🏿‍♂️

[naive maple]

Hey Y'all... what's the deal with Laranite trading in this new patch?

[plain sun]

what shud i do if i get stuck in loading screen?

[timid kraken]

BMM gives up cargo space for shops, meeting rooms, and other luxuries

Hull are pure freighter

and will almost certainly see plenty of use, being optimal freight haulers

they're also vastly more cost effective than the bmm

[coarse cape]

👍

[ebon moon]

For sure, but that's all they are, freighters. They have no defense, easily hijacked and won't be used for day to day Cargo imo. At least not the big bois. Maybe A-C. Whereas the BMM has decent protection on it's own and while it sacrifices the cargo they have, it can hold it's own and isn't completely reliant on an escort.

[timid kraken]

A hull has enough capacity to be able to run with escorts and still profit

A merchantman probably won't have the same margins

Hulls are just the SC equivalent to a modern day container ship

[subtle cradle]

I cant even imagine a scenario where I'll be using 98,000 scu

[steel storm]

Heyo, looking to get into hauling with my connie. I have absolutely no experience so is there a good guide or some basics I should know?

I'm assuming I just have to figure out good routes myself and more distance to sell is more profit/risk

When it comes to grief safety I'm already aware

[crimson mantle]

I created https://sc-trade.tools just for that!
Feel free to read the bottom of the homepage for the F.A.Q. and let me know if you have any questions!

[steel storm]

That's awesome, thank you!

[crimson mantle]

The connie is a fairly big ship, so I'd recommend filtering out the poorly supplied routes and sticking with the bulk products, like so: https://i.imgur.com/3XNgXCy.png (the number is up to you)

Especially now, with the "return to the game" post-patch gold rush

[north oyster]

Yes planet side

[north oyster]

Trade is still broke

[north oyster]

They have to totally change how trade is done. Currently we run trade as owners of the cargo, it is going to have to be changed to where we are contracted to move cargo and not its owners.

[timid kraken]

I'd argue that anyone who can afford a capital ship can probably afford to fill it up with at least scrap or something

and besides
Hull E will supposedly have capital-class shields

so most small pirate groups probably won't even be able to damage it

[blissful rain]

It's not just the shields.but the armour

[lethal portal]

1 kg of extracted Quantanium converts to 0.02 SCU.
Made a sheet for myself to determine estimated quantity of Q. from a rock of given size and %

[naive maple]

Anyone seen a good YouTube video on Prospector Mining for this patch?... What with all the new modules/consumables?... I was using Lancet + 2x Surge

[lavish monolith]

Did anybody try to mine Quantanium in the Aaron Halo and where? I've once mined between CRU L1 and ARC L3 at a distance to ARC L3 of 12,4-12,5 Mio km and found several rocks with >10% Quantanium Sometimes up to 40%. Did anybody else find a similar place?

[lethal portal]

@lavish monolith i do Q. mining in the belt

recent find. 10+ cluster with 34+29+28 %'s.

upon arrival to refinery

[lavish monolith]

Lol i can wait

@lethal portal also when you land at the refinery, do you store your prospector/mole or do you leave it on the pad?

I always worry that it's gonna lose the cargo when storing it, otherwise pad rammers are also a thing. And i also already lost a full prospector of Quantanium

[lethal portal]

I always store it. If not, upon arrival to refinery terminal, Mole could be not listed there.

[lavish monolith]

Oh ok

[plain sun]

anyone wna go mole mining with me?

[north oyster]

that's the most expensive refinery job I've seen yet and you're using the cheapest (slowest) high yield available. Crazy

And 4 days later

I just wonder how you get that much in a Mole and make it back to the refinery in time

Did they adjust the boom timer?

[lethal portal]

no, they didn't. Still 15 minutes. Solution is as always: crack everything you need, then extract as fast as you can.
So i've cracked first 2 rocks that are near. Repositioned ship to lonely one with 29%, cracked all there. Extracted (timer started). Repositioned again to shards from 2 rocks, extracted there and went back to CRU-L1. I guess during my approach to pad i've got first (yellow) beeper. Means 7.5 minutes left afaik

[north oyster]

yeah, I found that for me, trying to crack more than 2 rocks results in some of the ore vanishing. I use to mine Quan exclusively before 3.12. I've not messed with it since I had built a good war-chest of funds and really wasn't up to the extra stress. Its been fun just doing casual mining moonside for taranite, bexilite, laranite and agricium. Or running the ROC

Once the wipe visits, I'll be back in the saddle focusing on quantainium

[lethal portal]

i hate mining with Mole on moons. It's sooo slow and you have to literally put your nose into every rock to be able to scan it. While for asteroids i see the scan results from 3 kilometers. Zero-G plus zero atmo + scan distance makes life so much easier for me

[north oyster]

I 100% concur with that

[lethal portal]

i've tryed Microtec moons. Big no-no for solo mining in the Mole because of weather just blowing you away from your position.
Tryed Lyria on ArcCorp. Also bad to my perpective, since you not only need to find a decent % of Q. inside the rock, but you also have to find a rock of decent WEIGHT. This extra layer of searching doesn't help. In the belt or L3's i get no less then 4.6 tonns

on moons i can go as low as 3 tonns, and that is big difference in terms of final output in SCU

wish it was Q. cluster:

[north oyster]

I'm strictly a Prospector pilot. I have a Mole on-hand but overall the Prospector is like a 12ft john-boat that I can take out to the river and fish around. The MOLE is more like that large off-shore 60ft charter sports fisherman. Takes a little more to run her

[lethal portal]

but Mole can eat much taller swells ;)

i've once had a PvP Prosp vs me on Mole ))

[north oyster]

LOL, that wasn't too bright of the Prospector pilot.

The first thing I do is remove the weapons off of the Prospector. That's extra power draw that I don't want

[lethal portal]

just hit P to turn weapons off.

here we are

[north oyster]

Not sure what the MOLE has, but the two weapons on the Prospector are worthless. So if I can't run (which I've had NPC pirates chase me before) then I just don't worry about it. Plus, I mine where no one is ever at, whether Aaron's Halo or a drop to a moon without QT points.

[north oyster]

Nice find for sure!

[fresh hamlet]

Anyone got some good routes for the caterpillar

[subtle cradle]

Sc trade tools does

[north oyster]

Trade isn't where it needs to be for 3.13.0, I would go so far as to say it is broken. Here's a quick run down for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyJ_-tfwOSw

[mortal kettle]

how profitable is mining ores other than quant? like per hour?
finding 25% + quant rocks takes a while

[north oyster]

it's hard to break it down that way because you are assuming you'll find what you need at a specific time

[mortal kettle]

and what is max number of refinery orders?

[north oyster]

No max at this time

[crimson mantle]

There are no limit

[mortal kettle]

cool

[north oyster]

ROC mining hadanite is an excellent return with minimum time

[mortal kettle]

oh. thats true. same cost to refine but final product worth less

[north oyster]

I've encountered issues selling various ores at the TDD. It is still broken

[crimson mantle]

Actually, there's also less Bexalite overall, compared to Quant. Mining only Bexalite is at most 36% as efficient as Quant.

[north oyster]

You'll need to mine a blend of Bexalite, Laranite, Agricium and Taranite

Aberdeen is a good spot for these ore

[crimson mantle]

You can compare OVI index for that
https://tinyurl.com/5hduc8u8
vs.
https://tinyurl.com/x8nd4pcj

If you mine everything above Titanium, you can be more efficient than Quant though: https://tinyurl.com/tdu9rha3

[mortal kettle]

so clio has higher density of quant than hur l3?

[crimson mantle]

Well, "per volume", yes: rocks are much closer together on the ground (a couple km) compared to asteroids (10-20kms), that's why the number changes so much

But it's much easier to move around in space

[mortal kettle]

yeah

also dont have to wait to get back into orbit

[crimson mantle]

True 🙂 You can restrict the location type, if you prefer to only stay in space:

[mortal kettle]

thanks!

[north oyster]

Agricium is my base ore, nothing below that

[mortal kettle]

i usually do hur l3 or halo for quant

was not familiar with other ores

[north oyster]

I've stopped messing with Quan for now, I mine moonside on Aberdeen and refine that. Relaxing and no stress of time limits, etc

[crimson mantle]

You could even argue that borase is not worth mining, giving how it tends to not clump in pure chunks

[mortal kettle]

i'll try it :)

[north oyster]

SC Trade just triggered me ... I HATE Borase, LOL

stuff is trash

[mortal kettle]

i ccu'd my taurus to prospector and plan on getting a freelancer max with aUEC

[north oyster]

MAX is also the best RORO for the ROC, I use it almost exclusively for that

They fixed the thrusters and Lights, so she's awesome

[mortal kettle]

i heard they fixed lights :) yay. does door open close toggle key work now too? didnt before

[north oyster]

No, but that's ok. It won't crush you, just look down and open it

it stays open now

[mortal kettle]

ok

[north oyster]

Or you can enter in the rear, open it and then just use the cabin exit after that

[mortal kettle]

i like to use ramp toggle key in cutlass to see if ramp is flat on ground when i land

[north oyster]

My trick is after I land and I think it's level, I will open the ramp and then walk down and out the ramp. The ship will readjust to surface tension then. That keeps it from throwing me when I exit in the ROC

[mortal kettle]

cool, i'll try

[north oyster]

Also, if you mine with the ROC and the MAX. Turn off just the Engines ( i ) when getting up, that way you will always have 100% hydrogen fuel when mining

The scoops recharge the whole time you are mining

One final tip: If you stow your ROC in the MAX - when you get out of the ROC, turn around and close the ROC's entrance. It says open by default. This will help prevent some not so great bugs from trapping you next time in the ROC

Wow, Leaks just posted that they are assessing 3.13.1 PTU build for Evocati

Hope they freaking fix trade in next patch.

[tardy flower]

Greetings everyone,

How is cargo trade and drugs trade?

[north oyster]

BROKEN

[north oyster]

This is worth 4 minutes to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyJ_-tfwOSw

[crimson mantle]

They changed the buy locations for drugs, but the new ones still only buy pocket fulls 😦

[fresh hamlet]

Thanks man

[hollow sedge]

Can Hadanite be found and mined at asteroid fields with a Prospector?

[north oyster]

No

Land base only

You can pop them with the Prospector, only crack 2 at a time

I often stop and do that while mining in the Prospector

[hollow sedge]

Aww okay

Thanks

[north oyster]

Rgr

Because they are gems, they don't need to bed refined

[hollow sedge]

Yeah, makes sense

Wait

So if i read that right

Theres no big doffrences between mining on land with a ROC and Prospector?

They still do the same job?

Yeah nvm i just watched a youtube vid about it😅

[glacial flicker]

anyone looking to do some ROC mining?

[strong whale]

@glacial flicker I'm trying to figure out how at the moment if you're still keen

[glacial flicker]

Do you have a DS?

[strong whale]

i just have a roc

[coarse cape]

did someone move cargo and mining above flight and combat now

[fast briar]

anyone selling merits?

[long valley]

So where is good to mine, I haven’t found any nodes on the planets I’ve been looking on

[lethal portal]

for ROC you better go to Aberdeen or Arial.
For Prospector, depends on what you want to mine. Plenty of places.

look at https://sc-trade.tools/mining for more details and numbers

[long valley]

cool thanks for the details, i was on Arial but couldnt find anything after about 1 hr flying and scanning but ill keep trying

[crimson mantle]

Arial seems to be bugged this patch and not spawn rocks at all.

[glacial flicker]

anyone looking for a partner to use their ROC DS with?

[steel storm]

Quick cargo haul loop:

Agricultural Supplies | Port Olisar > Terra Mills (9.26%)
Distilled Spirits | Terra Mills > CRU L4 (22.46%)
Scrap | CRU L4 > Port Olisar (33.09%)

Rinse and repeat

Even in a connie it's quick cash

[plain sun]

what is best consumable for lancet in a mole?

[nova tinsel]

Did they fix trading this patch or is it still fekked? 🤔

[lethal portal]

at least refinery bug seems to be fixed and you can sell ores. Regarding speculating on goods, a guess it is still 'broken'

[crimson mantle]

Things do seem to "work as intended", but inventories are still very low.

[unique crown]

hey can any one help me find some good ores to mine?

bpease?

bleaseee

[light star]

whats the best cargo to do in this patch? (not including mining)

[north oyster]

When I took my refined ore to CBD, a small load (only two trips in Prospector) took multiple cycles too sell. I'm not real encouraged

[atomic lichen]

I use surge for a start

Some people use brandt too

[subtle cradle]

I got a 42%, 25% and a 19% quantanium rocks in the same cluster and nobody wanna buy it on the server :(
Mining must be dead

[tardy flower]

Greetings everyone,

does the passive modules of the three mining heads or a Mole cumulate their effect?

[amber pulsar]

What subcomponents are you guys putting on your MOLE lasers?

[tardy flower]

I don't know yet 😁

That is all subcomponents stats 😘

[glacial flicker]

anyone got a ROC DS that needs a partner

[next solstice]

we are planning to go out for ROC mining is this even worth it for $$$?

[next solstice]

can you mine on Arial? I can't find anything there

[coarse cape]

yeah you can

[coarse cape]

if you can fill your roc with hadanite you can score around 220k so i'd say it is. just got to be lucky

[next solstice]

I just can't find any rocks to mine

maybe just unlucky

[coarse cape]

how high are you flying?

and how fast

and you're scanning right?

[next solstice]

pretty low and like 140, my scanner doesnt pick up anything

yea

[coarse cape]

hm

[next solstice]

I am hovering right above ground

[coarse cape]

usually height and speed are a problem and i usually go like 100-200 off the ground and go around 100m/s

might be the game tho. recently havent been able to find anything to mine, both ship and roc

and i usually go to hotspots so idk

[next solstice]

ok might be the server then

because I found 0 so far

:/

[dark tendon]

Not the server, Arial isn’t spawning any mineables this patch

[crimson mantle]

Multiple people have reported Arial to be bugged this patch: no rocks at all

[north oyster]

Does anyone know if you can stack two of the same sub-components for added effect? Like two Focus modules?

[hollow sedge]

Has trading or smuggling been fixed in 3.13?

[subtle cradle]

Aberdeen is still the best for roc mining as far as I can tell. Hadanite all around Norgaard

[subtle cradle]

I have a Caterpillar I 30k'd in on ArcCorp heading in to sell around a millions worth of refined ores.
I figured it was all lost, but its inventory shows up in the TDD terminal.
Whenever I try to sell it just says:
Your transaction has failed
Service error

Is there any way to sell that stuff since the game clearly recognises it is there?

[lavish monolith]

What are the best mining heads, consumables and modules for Quantanium mining?

[lethal kayak]

Been gone for a while, is the trade fixed yet?

[lethal kayak]

I usually mine around GHex with the Helix 1, consumables was more like...eh.. use skill. 🙂

[lavish monolith]

Nah

[lavish monolith]

I mean, You probably also missed the Modules update for the mining ships, and tbh i also don't know what they are doing lol

[lethal kayak]

Modules i saw in shop (but not released yet at the time)

From my understanding at the time... modules are just perma-boosters (consumables) so you tweak your laser / mining to your preference

[lavish monolith]

I will prob look for a video , because no way I will look at every module and consumable and decide it myself xD

[steel storm]

Very. Can't even fill a cutty of anything other than scrap

[marble pollen]

supposedly mining modules get lost if you claim/destroy your ship, unlike other components

I don't know, haven't tried them yet

[little flint]

you can see the cargo but unless the ship is on the planet near where you are trying to sell you'll get that error.. its lost is the tldr

[lethal kayak]

But how about selling? Used to have 9 refined quantanium loads in refinery ... but no way to even sell 1/2 of one at Area18 / Lorville

[shell nacelle]

wheres the best place to go mining with prospector

[lavish monolith]

for Quant, Aaron Halo

[mortal kettle]

"1615 UTC - Initial notice, Live Service Maintenance begins 1730 UTC with servers offline at 1755 UTC." (last patch)

I wish they would announce patches sooner if we lose all refinery jobs each patch.

[tame elbow]

I didn't lose any refinery jobs between the hotfix patch or a character reset

[mortal kettle]

nice, maybe it will stay when 3.13.1 hits

[atomic cipher]

so whats this new refinery job system

i must have been gone when that began

is there any reason to use different methods

shouldnt you always just use Dinyx and Pyro?

or*

[hollow sedge]

Hey

I have a slight problem

Im mining with the ROC at full laser intesity but the charge level still isent going up

Is there a fix i can do?

[subtle cradle]

You're mining too big rocks. ROC is for the ~ 0.80 rocks

[little flint]

look for the diamond icons rather than the ore icon

[lethal portal]

sometimes ROC gets bugged. Just leave it and claim a new one

good idea also to shoot it down, so it will have a "Destroyed" status. It's safer for further claiming on same moon

[tame elbow]

sometimes the extraction mode/fracture mode can get swapped server-side but not clientside

it happens when you exit the ROC while in extraction mode

climb in, turn it into fracture mode, climb out

then back in

[north oyster]

Good tip, I've not seen that error in awhile but will try it if it happens

[hybrid lark]

just found a big bexalite deposit but i dont have a mining ship. anyone wanna have it?

[river cove]

where to spawn the roc in hurston?

[ember star]

Any HDMS

@north oyster I finally did it and got me a mining ship. Now I need to figure out how to do it

[ember star]

So... refining.. is it worth it?

[plain sun]

best modules for lancet?

[ashen burrow]

@plain sun torpid, brandt, surge. I would go with them. But now you can change torpid for one of modules with passive bonuses

[willow girder]

https://dto9r5vaiz7bu.cloudfront.net/pzdo5igglw30o/tavern_upload_large.png

may help when you wanna mine in daylight

[main grove]

What is the best material to do cargo runs with. From where to where.

[north oyster]

The Prospector? You'll want to go to HUR-L2 for size one laser heads. The default that comes on the ship is worthless.
Yes, refinery is with it but sometimes selling it off take more than one go.

[ember star]

Mole

[north oyster]

Trade is still very broken

[ember star]

I got some size 2 Helixs

[north oyster]

Ah, ok, you will want to focus on the asteroid belt. Easier to mine there as solo

[ember star]

But my lazy ass is probably just going to mine boom boom rocks and dont bother refining anything.

How do I get to the belt?

[main grove]

how long does items you purchase at the monitors take to purchase more. Im limited to 800 but want to wait and buy again.

[atomic cipher]

Trade is broken they fill too slow and places wont buy all you have sometimes

AND all the prices are more expensive cus of the low stock

So you just lose more money

[atomic cipher]

Isnt it better to put 3 different types on the mole

so even solo you can crack whichever rock with whichever laser

[ember star]

What is the best ore to mine in the belt?

[teal wing]

If you're not mining quantanium, then bexalite, followed by agricium and laranite would probably be your best bet iirc

[crimson mantle]

I've created https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq to answer exactly that question 😄
Feel free to give it a try (give a quick look to the F.A.Q. too to avoid unpleasant surprises)

[plain sun]

wt wud u recommend other than brandt?

[atomic cipher]

Ive heard that there are sometimes certain zones that spawn ores more frequently

Is that true

Like some people have spots where they find quant more or smth

[ashen burrow]

If you use Lancet then brandt would be the best choise. Or Stampade could be nice shoice as it allows you to charge within optimal window very quickly.

[crimson mantle]

Biomes do apply a modifier. Usually the number is quite small though.

[north oyster]

Yes, Especially a blend of the Helix and Lancet. But I don't do much MOLE mining at all. I prefer sticking with the Prospector for solo work. -good point to bring up!

[atomic cipher]

I was thinkin of getting a mole for solo and more

That way i can bring a helper or solo but still have much more storage space

[atomic cipher]

By biome

What does this mean like, hilly, mountainous?

Is there somewhere i can read

[crimson mantle]

It's the really vast visible different terrains, like the forests on microTech vs the snow places

[atomic cipher]

in regards to solo Mole mining

do you just go back eachtime you mine a quant rock

or is there time to find and mine another before returning without exploding

[idle blade]

Generally its best to find a cluster and break them down fully before extracting to maximize the time you have

[atomic cipher]

so theyve made quant more prevalent?

i was under the impression youd find quant once every now and then

[latent axle]

So common is quantanium?

Cargo hauling recently has been a kick in the balls for me, is mining any better?

[copper coral]

did they ever fix trading, i have been waiting for the trade terminals to work so i could get back to cargo with my new carrack (was a freelancer back in the day)

[hollow sedge]

Yah. Im not going to play again till they fix trading/smuggling. Or add Salvaging or something else id be interested in doing a lot

[copper coral]

im guessing salvaging will require a trade terminal, so it probably wont work either unless they fix it by then

[spark ruin]

Guys a question where can I sell my refined quantanium?

[latent axle]

Any major trading area

Like tdd at arccorp or CBD at lorville

Not sure what the one at mircotech is called

[latent axle]

^

[latent axle]

They seem to work the last time I did trading (3 days ago)

But I did have 2 30Ks and 10 deaths from STAIRS

[plain belfry]

@crimson mantle i have a question, is trade tools for cargo transport updated for the newest prices?

[lean solar]

What's the quickest route that makes the most?

[dawn nacelle]

can someone explain how trading is broken to me? im new and was interested in trying that

[crimson mantle]

It's updated for 3.13, but read the F.A.Q. for more details about the prices: https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq

[crimson mantle]

It' not "broken" per say anymore, as they fixed the big exploits plaguing it.
The problem is that anything worthwhile is being produced/bought in such low quantities that there's almost never enough to buy/sell. Since prices are dynamic, it means that profit margings are too small compared to doing pretty much anything else in the game.

In 3.13.1 there seems to be a dynamic journal entry in the mobiglass displaying the commodities that are currently well-supplied. It will help a bit, but the main problem remains: supply and demand doesn't grow with player population, and the worthwhile commodities are few and far between.

[north oyster]

As one with a Hercules C2 Starlifter on order, I'm wondering if I need to buy a tonk so that I can have something I can haul in it because it's looking pretty slim for Trade unless they suddenly wake up to the issue.

I'd like to fill it up with refined ore but then I could see it taking about a month to sell all that inventory off with the current state of trade.

[ember star]

I was thinking it would be good for Scrap

Or an army of Cyclones for box missions

[north oyster]

Scrap is only good to Port Olisar ... that is not promising at all

But yea, "I have a C2 for awesome box runs!!" LOL

[ember star]

Heck yeah man. Use the Cyclones as trollies.. load as many as you can up.. and accept all of the contracts and be an Amazon delivery driver.

What else can you do with it if you can’t run cargo?

If you do 10 missions at once that’s 80k 🤣

But that’s 30 boxes

[north oyster]

That does remind me of last year when I would stack box runs from Crusader to Microtech for about 120K aUEC. But wow, I never wanted to see another rooftop landing pad again after that.

[ember star]

Can you imagine a C2 rooftop landing?

[north oyster]

OH, I gotta try that now

Some buildings have a double pad

[ember star]

Might need to carry along a C8X for those deliveries

[north oyster]

good point!

[ember star]

I would do it in my Carrack but funny enough I think the C2 would be easier. Less levels to have to go up and down from

[north oyster]

They are the same size with the Carrack being longer (I think) and the C2 being wider

Sitting on go waiting for the Hercules to get loaded in the PTU

[ember star]

If they want to release on fleet week I can only imagine that it'll be added soon

[north oyster]

I just really really really hope they "Fix" Trade for the Hercules rollout. Give us some hope there.

[atomic cipher]

Hey with the MOLE

does anyone else have this bug where the spedometer and fuel and all the projected HUD vanishes on and off

I cant seem to figure out whats making it trigger

[north oyster]

I've had various HUD issues including radar vanishing, etc. Not sure it is a ship specific issue. Might want to check the issue council and/or put in a ticket associated with the problem. @atomic cipher

[atomic cipher]

Its only happened to me with the mole

Makes it hard to land

[north oyster]

yeah, I'd submit an IC ticket on that

[north oyster]

@crimson mantle Are you going to be able to tap into the commodity price alerts for current trade pricing? Just wondering how it might come into play to help with those wanting to run trade

[crimson mantle]

I'll have to see if that's against the TOS in some way and if it's behind auth, etc.

[atomic cipher]

the game gave me an argo mole 2 for some reason lol that one hasnt happened to me in a while

but that one ALSO has the hud flashing

so weird that its only the moles

[north oyster]

You should take some screen shots and submit an issue council or contribute to over if it's already listed

[agile tulip]

Anyone know the best way to make money at the current moment?

[cobalt ridge]

I hear bounties once your rep is up

@agile tulip

[acoustic plover]

hey everyone 😄

would any of you be willing to take me out mining in the new ROC so i can test it out before purchase? im hoping they rework the original but i am looking for a team mining setup so if your willing to take me out id appreciate it allot DM me if you like

and be honest and tell me if its even worth it lol

especially since IDK when its unclear if its going to be for rent or in game purchase soon

[north oyster]

It will show up with an option to purchase in-game in the next version build (as a rule). Since it was introduced in 3.13, it will be at Astro Armada or New Deal for purchase 3.14.x I'm guessing about 325K aUEC to buy.

[north oyster]

bounties are a good earner for any ship in the game (up to a certain threat level). The illegal monitor quest pays 20k aUEC per run and you can stack those (be sure to learn the trick of doing those before attempting, check YT). One of the best earning options is the ROC. Each outing with it can earn up to 220K aUEC. You can rent the ROC and Cutlass Black and buy the Pembroke armor for under 60K aUEC.

[sharp rune]

How to Break Big Mass Rocs Solo. - Works with Quantainium

[manic whale]

I broke yesterday almost 8000mass with Prospector+Impact+Vaux-C3 😀

[tardy flower]

Find a crew for your Mole 😉

[rich dust]

how are you able to activated different consumables without one ending as the second one is activated?

[sharp rune]

I have my own org but if ur a good miner u dont need a crew. I can solo mole mine just as efficiently as a prospector.

@chief the stampedes/optimums cancel each other out when activating 1 over the other ;)

@tardy flower u make way more money solo too and dont have to pay miners. U might as well be out alone in a prospector with a full mole crew to pay if ur being fair. Even 2 miners 1 pilot.. again u might as well b out there solo xD

[rich dust]

gotcha, just seemed like to me you were able to activate surge / optimum without one being cancelled out

[sharp rune]

The surges negative effect says in place. But its a 1x shot. Once used any positive effect is gone instantly, but theres like a 10 second window where the negative effect still plays a part (if u hit red, it will still charge much faster)

[fathom silo]

Whats the most profitable.
ROC Vs Prospector?

[tame elbow]

ROC

[simple hawk]

Prospector

[night ibex]

Is the helix still the best mining head?

[tardy flower]

Depends or what you are mining and what is your skill.
Lancet Can ne better.

[river cove]

hey guys what to mine this days?

[lethal portal]

Quantanium and hadanite. Ship and ROC respectively

[river cove]

ok I'm at yalla there is any of that here?}

or must ask where to mine Quantium?

Quantanium?

[lethal portal]

For Q. try Aaron Halo, The belt.
For Hadanite go to Aberdeen or Daymar

[river cove]

where is Aaron?

[tardy flower]

@river cove you can find on YouTube. You can't select this destination. You have you put you QT off during the travel. 😉

[lethal portal]

From Cru l1 to arc l5, stop qt at 13 mkm, as example. You don't need to be super precise

[junior narwhal]

how do i use graycat ROC?

[tardy flower]

Aberdeen or Daymar, look only for Hadanite 😉

[junior narwhal]

cheers mate, just got some Hadanite from mining! Then the game crashed haha

[tardy flower]

You'r welcome. Hey 30k is the ultimate boss ^^
When you have a full ROC of hadanite sell it quick to the closer mining post 😉

[north oyster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YM62tjGu1U

[north oyster]

I would recommend looking to sell the cargo when you are near 50% of a load. Since you can sell at the outpost on the moons, it's a simple hop. Two nice clusters can get you at 60 - 70% real quick. Once other thing is take some of the gems from the ROC and stow in your armor.

[willow tiger]

Guys, there's nothing showing up from pings on Arial. Is this a server bug thing? Is there a fix? Or is it only in certain locations

[pallid temple]

Arial appears to be bugged this patch

[nova tinsel]

Arial is definitely bugged

[willow tiger]

Hmm, okay, cheers

into ambush zone ech

[north oyster]

Like they mentioned, Arial won't spawn ore atm but will with the next patch (fixed on patch notes). Aberdeen is a good alternative.

[lavish monolith]

We had like a small mining event last Sunday which went for 2 1/2 hours and i got 450k aUEC through mining Hadanite on Aberdeen

But i was one of the luckier ones, most had either been attacked or got client crashes/crashes to desktop

[desert basin]

How do I get to caves

?

[main ore]

what are some trading routes for high scu ships? im tired of not being able to fill my msr all the way

[crimson mantle]

My suggestions would be to try Titanium, Diamonds or Scrap: https://tinyurl.com/ybh8cbka

It's always a gamble though :/

And you're not exactly getting rich quick off of any of these.

[tribal bloom]

you can go mining and refine it

[hollow sedge]

Any idea why things are so low on Laranite

[north oyster]

the days of the great Laranite rush are gone and dead. Trade is broken on both sides of the isle - supply is broken and demand is broken. There is a mobiglass alert coming under the Journal tab that will alert for overstock and understock issues.

[willow tiger]

Hey guys, should I keep renting a Roc and earning money that way? Or is it more profitable and safer to rent a Prospector?

[granite meteor]

Buy a few backpacks, cave dive for ranta dung
Very safe
Much profit

Not that slow

[willow tiger]

Wow thanks man! Omw to buy 6 mac flex

do you think 6 is enough? Maybe I should go 18

[north oyster]

The ROC is best path but I would buy it for 172K. Then if you are having to rent the transport, then buy that. I would suggest the Freelancer MAX over the Cutlass Black as a ROC carrier. I use the MAX almost exclusively now carrying the ROC because of the excellent roll-on/roll-off (RORO) and the fantastic fuel economy.

[normal fractal]

hey is the pembroke armor backpack useable for storing mining stones? i looked it up and it said it was bugged atm

[tame elbow]

yes, you can store things in it

[normal fractal]

cool ty

[manic whale]

Just sold 500k worth refined mix of Laranite,Agricium,Quantanium in one go. I thought I dont have a chance cause of the broken trade. So the supersaturated trade doesnt apply to the refined goods, but just pure sell/buy trade?

[crimson mantle]

The "refined ores" and the stuff you buy at mining outposts is actually the exact same thing 🙂
Seems like they fixed the refinery exploit so the saturation is easing down.

[north oyster]

Great to hear, earlier I encountered issues trying to sell my refined ore so mileage varies. Hopefully like SC Trade said, the issue is getting addressed in the back servers

[tacit otter]

up to 119 hadanite IIRC

[river cove]

so again what we mining for this dys?

[manic whale]

I got it on surface in Starfarer. I dont know how everyone else fly it, but it fell like a rock in atmo 😄, I had to doublecheck if not in decoupled. Almost havent hit the hangar.

[elfin brook]

Me and a friend are considering to rent a mining ship. We don't have the in game money (yet) to purchase one.

Is it a good idea/can you earn the money back within the time frame (we are looking for one day rentals but a little more would be fine as well)?

[short hamlet]

you cannot change the mining laser on rented prospector, nor use consumables so it will be a bit less effective than a prospector you actually own. You will also have problem solo mining large rocks (about 5000 mass if I remember correctly). If you and your friend work together with 2 prospectors it should work though

Due to not being able to change mining laser and consumable people always suggest buying your own mining ship but you definitely can earn the rent money back and earn some extra without problem

[manic whale]

Theres mostly a certain hierarchy in mining - rent ROC+Cutlass Black 》buy ROC+rent Cutlass》buy Cutlass》buy Prospector》upgrade from Cutlass to Freelancer MAX》buy MOLE》buy Caterpilar. ..if you're OK with bounty hunting, I would suggest to make money for renting Constellation Andromeda. Both you and your friend would have fun of shooting and you can go up to VHRTgrouped missions with stock/rented ship equipment.

[elfin brook]

Wow this is worth gold as a target. My friend in fact already has the Cutlass so we would aim for the ROC first. Does the Freelancer have mining module already though?

By the way: Do two ROCs fit in one Cutlass?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[short hamlet]

I don't think a cutlass can fit 2 rocs

[pallid temple]

It can and it has

[mortal kettle]

freelancer max is for carrying refined ore to sell and for roc. 2 rocs can easily fit in freelancer max

max can not mine

[north oyster]

MAX is, for me, the best ROC carrier out there. Easy RORO (roll on/off) and excellent fuel economy.

If you're a miner in SC, then this video is for you ... Great little story done by Walkers of Sigma 957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qw3uftxgBw&ab_channel=GalaxyGirlGalaxyGirl

[keen gorge]

I want to do a little bit of ROC mining.
Any cool sites to mine that you can recommend me?

[drowsy dome]

Hey does anyone know if there is a resolution to an error while selling mined material (Hadanite).
My friend and I mined some Hadanite with our rocs and now can't sell anything.

[north oyster]

Aberdeen is the best site though the terrain can be a little hilly. After they fix Arial in the next patch, it will be a good one also

[north oyster]

Where are you trying this at? One of the moonside outpost stations? They just added the Admin at satellite stations also where you can sell the gems also, might want to try that

[drowsy dome]

@north oyster I've tried two planet side mining outposts and port tress. Two different servers too

Some of the goods were not mined by me or in my roc so I wonder if that has anything to do with it

[north oyster]

Take them out of the ROC and put them in your armor then

it looks like its about 200ish gems?

Pembroke and hold 100

two trips

[north oyster]

yes, that most certainly does. You can try the "no questions asked" terminal at Grim

[drowsy dome]

I've already boxed them :\

they're in my MSR now

[north oyster]

Try Grim Hex then

[drowsy dome]

will do

I think there is a no questions asked terminal at hur l4 or something like that too

[north oyster]

Really? We do need another location since they took Levski away

[crimson mantle]

Only Grim Hex buys stolen hadanite: https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer?q=%257B%2522itemName%2522:%2522Hadanite%2522,%2522itemQuantity%2522:1,%2522isCargoStolen%2522:true%257D

[drowsy dome]

ah, okay thanks. I mean it wasn't stolen it was my friends in my party haha

[crimson mantle]

Well, anything not yours is "stolen" 😄

[drowsy dome]

reminds me of the nintendo loading screen quote...
| Anything not saved will be lost
(or seomething like that)

[rocky haven]

So where can I sell refined Quantainium? I thought Planetary Services on NB would take it but nope.

[teal wing]

Trade and Development Divisions or the Hurston Central Business District sales terminals

[tame elbow]

planetary services doesn't but the TDD in NB does

[crimson mantle]

You'll get the best prices at Area18, since they buy so much more of it: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Quantainium

[hollow sedge]

hey so

ive never tried trading in this game, but i was told that drug running could net me quite a bit of profit

is it actually viable/does it work in the current state of the game?

[crimson mantle]

only for very small ships

[hollow sedge]

which is my case

[crimson mantle]

you're unfortunately better off doing satellite missions most of the time

but if you want to try your hand at it, check:

https://tinyurl.com/2t46xcep

They may not have enough stock/won't buy the whole load at once though

[rocky haven]

thx for the help guys 👍

[north oyster]

Trade is busted in current patch. They are working on the whole "economy" and state of trade that will be a few months down the road. The next patch (3.13.1) at the end of this month may have some trade tweaks to make it better because they are releasing the largest cargo ship to date (Hercules Starlifter C2) until the Hull series shows up. I would like to think I could use my new ship for trade ... here's hoping

[tacit otter]

it can fit 3

[crimson mantle]

(So far it's not looking good btw, but there's still time in the PTU cycle)

[river cove]

ok ffs why I cant finde quant??????????

Im in space and at the aaron halo but no quan..........

all I finde is borase and corundum

[thorny copper]

well they can't all be winners can they

sometimes you just get unlucky with the yield

[river cove]

so what else I should mine?

[north oyster]

Check SC Trade's website and they have info on where the most Quantainium is located at (general area). Anything above Agricium is good to mine.

The Hercules is out on this PATCH!!! PTU here I come

[river cove]

IS IT??????????????

Can you actualy see it? and where????????

[crimson mantle]

If you own it you can spawn it.
There will be videos up shortly, I'm sure.

[river cove]

My friend dos

[ember star]

Good luck staying in a server longer that 5 minutes

[north oyster]

You got that right!!

Double digit refugee

[chilly notch]

anyone looking for a new person to join them

[woeful moss]

yay more empty space to fly around with 😄

But tbh I hope they do something with trade at release of a freight ship too

I mean once quanta etc. are working and there are more star systems and bigger servers it's all good, but with the state it is right now. Or maybe they will add trading missions where you have to transport cargo. That would all be cool. But otherwise right now the ship would be as useless as the other traders are right now

[dapper gyro]

I’m a merc looking for work 10k for cargo escorts, 30k for mining help 8k for a pickup (if you’re stranded for example) or I’ll join your ship if you share the mission so I get paid from them dm me if you’re interested.

[inland sorrel]

Which helix do I need for the mole?

1 or 2?

[crimson mantle]

MOLE takes size 2 heads

[outer wagon]

Just went to sell a MSR full of refined quant at Lorville, but it won't let me sell more than 100k worth

Is there a port where I can sell all of it?

[novel ore]

What is the best cargo running option with a cat right now? Went to bedzek to do lara and ti but the restocking took so long it didnt feel worth it

[crimson mantle]

I would personally look into these: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Caterpillar%2522,%2522investment%2522:1000000,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:20000%257D

No guarantee that they will have stock, but there's a much better chance 🙂

[crimson mantle]

Area18 will buy 12X the Quant any other location will: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Quantainium

[outer wagon]

Thanks SC, I admit I was using the website but I didn't quite clock that bit of info

[novel ore]

That shows Bedzek top 3, I guess I could try diamond

[crimson mantle]

It's all about the "refresh rate" really (the X/min bit) 😄

[novel ore]

TY, that is why I went after Ti but it was still 5m between 10k purchase

[crimson mantle]

You may not be able to actually buy/sell X/min, but bigger is still better

Arf OK, yeah Titanium is the gold standard of commodities, so it may be over traded atm

[novel ore]

makes sense

[crimson mantle]

Hopefully when the pricing alerts in the journal go LIVE from the PTU, we can have a better ideas of the stocks.

[woeful moss]

Will also need more escorts then

because pirates will probably also see those alerts

[north oyster]

It seems the C2 has more SCUs than advertised. IIRC I think it showed 693

[broken star]

696 for C2 and 522 for M2

both C2 and M2 have exactly the same cargo grid on floor, except the C2 stacks 4 rows vs the M2 stacks "only" 3

[pliant matrix]

C2 is in PTU right? it shouldn't be long until it arrive on PU

[coarse cape]

Based of off past ships you don’t be able to buy it until one patch later

So prob 3.14. Unless they’re doing something different

[pliant matrix]

I already have it. And wait for it since 6 months xD

[coarse cape]

Oh lol

Too expensive for me lmao

At most I’ll buy stuff below like 230

[pliant matrix]

it's the result of small updates over more than a year. couldn't buy it directly

[coarse cape]

Ah

[pliant matrix]

I also merged some ships. Now have 3 when I used to have 5 at max

It's still way too much money for pixels but well... can't help it xD

[limber kindle]

Is cargo trading fixed in 3.13.1 on the ptu?

[shut heron]

Is there any big changes to mining in 3.13?

[swift isle]

Probably the mining components. Can be purchased and mounted as consumables, but is passive and «always on,» and doesn’t expire as consumables do.

[north oyster]

BUT you do loose them like consumables in there is a 30k, etc. So you can spend about 120K for the new sub components and loose them as you leave the pad because of a 30k. No persistence yet.

Correction on the SCU for the C2, it's 696. It's a rather large cargo hull

[tacit otter]

its 698

theres another 120 SCU that cant hold trade SCUs but rather, personal items like food, medical supplies, and ROC/hand ores in the top deck of both versions

[manic whale]

those can be saved in SCs Hangar mode. Just dont go right away into PU after the crash, but hangar instead and unequip all passive sub-components

[swift isle]

Oof. Have not experienced that yet..

[midnight totem]

Saying that, they’ll definitely try to put it up if not on sale during fleet week

[red sun]

Best ROC mining locations right now?

I'm about to start my first run

I should be looking for hadanite, right, but what quantities in particular?

and how do I load it into the ROC?

[crimson mantle]

With Arial bugged in this patch, your only real option is aberdeen: https://tinyurl.com/pwjy4hxk
The terrain is rough though, so be careful.

You load the vehicle by spawning it separately at a planetary outpost, in the building with the blue sign.

For Hadanite, any quantity is good: it's not like the % of ores in the prospector.

The ROC never harvests "inert", only the good stuff.

[trail pumice]

freshy looking for people to play with looking to go mining i have the Roc rover anyone interested message me

[red sun]

@trail pumiceyou still up for mining?

[hybrid lark]

just found a large quantanium deposit around yela but dont have a mining ship. any1 wanna have it?

[red sun]

I only have a roc lol so unless you want to try no control extraction maybe

[last moon]

What's the best cheapest ship for cargo in new

[north oyster]

How much cargo? The Nomad has a few SCU, the Cutlass Black has 42 (or more). Freelancer MAX is a good entry level hauler

[last moon]

Yeah anything that's good for starters

[north oyster]

Buy in-game? Or real dollars? What do you have now

[last moon]

Buy in-game I only have the mustang and I don't know how to make money fast

[thorny copper]

cargo is in a pretty sad state currently but basing on relatively current resources and price points you'll probably want to look at something like a freelancer max at the very least to start getting worthwhile payoff

[north oyster]

I would say rent Cutlass and a ROC

[thorny copper]

but that's now, hopefully its bound to improve down the line with the whole icache shabang

[north oyster]

They gotta to something, hate to think my new C2 can't do anything

[thorny copper]

there's supposed to be more low commodity higher value goods more suited for smaller cargo vessels, but they haven't been added as of yet

[last moon]

Ok thanks both of you

[willow tiger]

Is everythign on Aberdeen now just dolivine or what?

[elfin mulch]

Anyone experienced mining quantum? I'm having a hard time not overcharging after getting a surge off

[mortal kettle]

only use surge on the big rock, not the smaller ones. use brandt on smaller ones.

with lancet head

[north oyster]

Best spot for hadanite in the system is Aberdeen. Sometimes you just have a bad draw and the server hates you

Well, trade in the C2. Two moons and three stops to fill it up. I didn't keep tabs on the margin this run.

[novel ore]

havent playedc since .11, how much has mining changed in prospector? Helix still best option? Any other updates to do?

[north oyster]

Lots change but core is still the same

[thorny copper]

helix remains best for quantinium, for less volatile materials people recommend lancet

[novel ore]

and I guess we sell at the refinery decks now?

[north oyster]

Lancet does give a larger sweet zone, you do have to use consumables now though also

[thorny copper]

you can only sell raw ore at refineries

[north oyster]

The surge consumable is almost a requirement

[novel ore]

or can you sell at Port O still? I used to just go between Daymar and Port O

[thorny copper]

if you actually refine it you sell at cities

[novel ore]

ah ok

[thorny copper]

or maybe some outpost for specific ore, but PO isn't a buyer anymore iirc

orison will take that job soon I reckon

[north oyster]

PO only for scrap

[novel ore]

And the refinery just stores it right, so I could load up a cat or something?

[thorny copper]

yup you'll need a cargo ship of some type

don't need to be that big tho

[north oyster]

Also Port olasar is a free fire zone

[north oyster]

No limit on refinery jobs, yes you can fill up a cat or Hercules

When it becomes available

[novel ore]

nice, ty. asteroid mining worth it at all? i only ever bothered in my mole

[north oyster]

Asteroid is best for quintanium and it's very popular

Aaron's Halo is still the best spot but also the clouds around the LaGrange points are also very good

[novel ore]

where is aarons halo?

[north oyster]

It is the massive asteroid belt that surrounds the Stanton system Sun

When Levski was in the game it was only a 15-second hop from that to get into it, you'll need to research the best points to stop in the asteroid belt from different locations in the system

[novel ore]

thanks for the help!

[merry dome]

where can you sell ROC mineables? we went to sell hadanite at PO but it didnt work

[crisp prism]

Did you try refinery stations?

[narrow quarry]

at the hmds or whatever they called, the mining places planetside pretty much any moon

they have a "storage" area

if you are parked nearby you can sell

hdms**

[merry dome]

ah awesome tysm

[proud fog]

C2 can now make me 119k per 10 mins hehehehe

[mellow delta]

📈

[proud fog]

better then the 114k i was making with the cat

[near aspen]

Sheeesh nice

Trading been rough

what you run

[woeful moss]

it's probably just the hypothetical value he could get if stock was full of laranite 😄

[ebon moon]

Rrally. What was making you 114k with the cat? Nothing is stocked enough and the only thing that I've ever reliably been able to fully stock a cat with is scrap. Which is about 80k profit.

[proud fog]

Astatine

Buys for 400k sells for 514k giving me a profit of 114k per run

I've made 50mill auec off of this run alone

[hollow sedge]

should i rent prospector?

[tardy flower]

Do you like mining in ship? Mining in général or only make cash?

[hollow sedge]

idk a year ago i rented it

it was kinda cool

i bought avenger titan so now im looking for some fun

idc about the money really

just the exprience

[tardy flower]

Yeah renting a Prospector is cool. To make money you can rent a ROC with a Cutlass black to mine too.

In my opinion, the best expérience stay mining in a Mole with full crew 👍

[ebon moon]

I'm seeing 110k profit, and the station to station seems quick. But I imagine supply and demand would both be out after 1 trip.

[crimson mantle]

You can usually pad the rest with hydrogen, but the profit is 1/10th.

[north oyster]

What route and commodity were you running? I've only done limited PTU testing.

[crimson mantle]

The astatine run fits the bill, but you can't do that long: https://tinyurl.com/2x544mz9

[proud fog]

@north oyster on the PTU I been running it from Ita Woodruth to PO and Yela Arccorp 157 to PO

And I was running a full to the brim cat and C2 of astatine

[north oyster]

OK, I had ruled PO out for most commodities except Scrap. With it being an open firing range, not sure I'll run it in the PU as a rule unless they beef up the AI AA around the station. But great info, thanks @proud fog

I was thinking of experimenting with some runs in the ArcCorp area. Maybe even some in the Hurston. I'm removing PO from my circuit because of the threat it will pose in Live PU

[proud fog]

Ya PO is fixed you can no longer shot there

[manic whale]

The "current capacity x%" in refinery system is real number?

[crimson mantle]

Yes: refineries have infinite capacity, but the processing cost goes up the higher the capacity is.

[manic whale]

Im only curious if it means something. Last time I checked (2days ago) it was 68000%, today 50000%

[crimson mantle]

It makes the cost higher, so you can make the call if you want to sell as-is, wait, or refine

[north oyster]

Great news, I wasn't aware of the change. I knew they had increased the zone for AI response but I thought it was still a live zone

As to the refineries, I think the % difference might have something to do with the unit calculations of the standard SCU and the mSCU. I'm just speculating on that aspect. The % reports did settle down in the Live some, sort of crazy to think something is 68K% over production

[ruby jolt]

How does cargo stock refresh works? It says 2000/min but you know

[crimson mantle]

So those numbers I pull from the data files. How it really works is anyone's guess, but one thing is certain: bigger is better.

Another thing to note; inventory is shared between servers, so it doesn't matter if you don't see anyone trading: they might be in another server.

[ruby jolt]

Ah, understood

[crimson mantle]

The current consensus seems to be that the servers refresh every 5-10 mins, and apply the cumulative X/min rate. But it's hard to tell exactly 🙂

[ruby jolt]

Gonna wait a bit and check it

Thx

[north oyster]

When do you think you'll update the ship list for Hercules line? When it goes live to the PU? I'm also curious about the ticker in the mobi for supply and demand.

[hollow sedge]

PO also buys distilled spirits and processed food. not exactly a good run at only like 16k every 8 min trip in a cat but its worth noting

[north oyster]

Just like scrap, some of those serve to avoid an empty ship on a trade run. Not sure I'd go out of my way to get them directly unless the only thing available at the time. Trade is still screwed up for the most part

[north oyster]

Just like scrap, some of those serve to avoid an empty ship on a trade run. Not sure I'd go out of my way to get them directly unless the only thing available at the time. Trade is still screwed up for the most part

[ancient ivy]

i was wondering if anyone could help me out? i really want to make a go of trading but i cant seem tomake any profit at all. am i doing something wrong? so i use SC trade tools which looks brilliant. i only have a cutlass black which i know will bottleneck my profits but i can accept that for now. i went to do a route which said i can take laranite with just shy of a 28k profit over about 7mins.. id be happy with that. when i try to do this and ive tried a couple times now theres next to none available and i fill the rest of it with the next highest available resource there and i end up with a profit of around 2k or maybe abit more. how is everyone getting round this or am i missing something?

[hollow sedge]

no trading just sucks rn. pre-3.11 you could make like 100k per run in a cat but now you're lucky if you make over 20k with the lower stock available. hopefully they "fix" it but maybe they want it like this and will keep it

[ancient ivy]

ok fair enough. i just see people in here and other places saying about 100k profits and more and i cant work out how? i can if they can fill their ship with the intended product but i never get anywhere near filling my ship with anything of any real value. it doesn't seem like it would take much at all to adjust the values that we are limited to. unless they deliberately don't want us focused on trading right now 🤷‍♂️

[trail pumice]

Need some help mining if anyone is up for it I need some transportation for my ROC

[hollow sedge]

even with no stock limits, i dont see how you'd be making 100k in only a cutlass. maybe if you run drugs as they have the highest profit but yea dont try it. last time i did, i was sitting at reclamation disposal for like an hour for only 40scu

[manic whale]

unless they deliberately don't want us focused on trading right now it could be just that. Many people forget about being in alpha and that helping test the pre-product is above anything else.

[ancient ivy]

i understand in a cutlass i cant make that kind of money for sure. but that's where i am confused i cant get anywhere near filling a cutlass with a decent value product let alone a caterpillar

[ancient ivy]

i absolutely would but i cant be in game for another 3.5hrs.

[hollow sedge]

i think if you play during USA night time or early morning. you can probably just fill up a cutlass since the resources are shared across the servers

and most of us are in usa

[ruby jolt]

I found for me that the most profit i can get is 300k/h by destroying monitors.
Right now sitting about 20mins trying to full fill my freelancer Max. Trading is just something weird right now

[ancient ivy]

i am hoping that's the case as i can accept that. i am just seeing others writing in multiple places of profits they're achieving, and wondering if i am doing things wrong or missing something (quite probable)

[hollow sedge]

ooh i should try that. is that better than 20k bounties?

[trail pumice]

@ancient ivy sounds good lol you trouble maker 🤣

[ruby jolt]

I think yeah, as if you doing 20k per mission for safely destroying 3 monitors in about 2 mins. Another 2 mins to fly to another and that's it

The only annoying part in it that the game just make my ship equip disappear sometime and i need to buy another

But i find it the most safe thing to make money for me

[hollow sedge]

im getting that bug for my player character. i just spawn in sometimes with only a basic clothing. undersuit, armor, guns all gone

[ruby jolt]

Yeah :c

[hollow sedge]

its super annoying and so i just buy like 10 of whatever im wearing and all my guns

[north oyster]

Ship log seems to be better in the PTU. I tested it with the Hercules several times.

[ancient ivy]

just DM me if your going to be on in 3.5hours and i can help you out 🙂

[ruby jolt]

I measured it 3 times and here it is: refresh times: 7:30, 9:00 and 7:30

But i guess it doesn't synchronize with another servers as the stock value always different
But anyway

[crimson mantle]

I'll wait for live, as they seem to be tweaking stuff still.

The mobiglass alerts seem to be just a report on the shops that are full. Right now it's pretty much only processed food inventories.

[north oyster]

Sounds good. Trade is frustrating me atm, almost feel like my Hercules really doesn't have a role (or the CAT also) at this time.

Yeah, I saw that the first iteration of the alert was very limited

[crimson mantle]

We'll get a bone thrown our way when TonyZ gives his update at the end of the month.

At least we're not salvagers! 😄

[north oyster]

true true

But with Invictus Launch Week blowing and going, I hope they can make a nice announcement as related to trade that will make having a C2 or a Hull series excited about owning them.

[hollow sedge]

do you guys know any good solo cargo ships?

[pliant matrix]

you can still trade scrap. Safe and always available 😛

[manic whale]

https://fleetyards.net/ships/?q[classificationIn][]=transport&q[focusIn][]=Medium Cargo%2FMedium Data&q[focusIn][]=Transport Military &q[focusIn][]=Medium Freight&q[focusIn][]=Heavy Freight&q[focusIn][]=Transport&q[productionStatusIn][]=flight-ready&q[productionStatusIn][]=in-production

[north oyster]

PO isn't so safe and available though, even though some have said the "relaxed" zone is now not relaxed but I've not verified it. PO is the only scrap buyer option in the 'verse atm

[north oyster]

My favorite "entry level" is the Freelancer MAX. It also makes a fantastic ROC carrier too. At 120 SCU, it won't make you rich but you will get a good understanding of trade. I've cleared about 15K to 20K per run in her

[pliant matrix]

that makes the game spicy imo xD

[north oyster]

also watching the video of the hacker destroying everything around PO was fun too

[versed forge]

Someone throw me a quick trade route to do.

[crimson mantle]

It really depends on your funds and ships. You can explore your options at https://sc-trade.tools 😄

[versed forge]

Oh so you're the dude who made that.

Props to you man, I've used it before.

Very nice.

[crimson mantle]

I am!
If you have any questions I'm here

Of course with the current state of trade and the very low inventory levels it's hard to make a decent profit

but it's possible to get a feel for it

[versed forge]

I crash too often for most trade routes to be profitable for me.

[crimson mantle]

Also an issue 😢

I can try to suggest a few things. Which ships do you do cargo with?

[versed forge]

Yeeesh... The Starfarer lol

and the MISC Freelancer MAX.

I just wanna make like 200k in an hour or two... But I don't know how possible that is.

[crimson mantle]

how much can you invest?

[versed forge]

Oh I have no clue let's assume 192k

[crimson mantle]

So in a Starfarer, avoiding main cities (because that gravity doesn't play nice with those atmo thrusters), it's not looking too good: https://tinyurl.com/xkb4heb9

The riskier ones, astatine and titanium would get you there if they are in stock, which is not guaranteed: https://tinyurl.com/3ky8vx7m

[versed forge]

Ah. Yeah I've died trying to land on Lorville one to many times.

[crimson mantle]

If you want to land on a planet with your Starfarer, diamonds should be available

Yeah, I've flown a starfarer a fair amount, gravity is not its friend 😅

Scrap in a starfarer is only 14k profit, so not great

[hoary monolith]

Just spread a mostly full ROC and cutty over the surface of Aberdeen. LOL

forgot that the speed limiter was off and was in scan mode

[versed forge]

Hmm. And I'm assuming the results are not so hot with the Freelancer either.

Surely ATMO doesn't make up for the lost cargo space.

But if I was to trade out the SF for the Cat

Then we could talk shop

Or the SF upgraded to the C2

Lord forbid Beezy hears me say this.

[crimson mantle]

Trade is a bit rough at the moment. That's the main issue: inventories are very low.

[versed forge]

Hmm I wonder why that is

[crimson mantle]

With invictus approaching, the instability may also be increasing, leading to more 30Ks

[hollow sedge]

cuz cig is like fuck traders lmao🤡

[crimson mantle]

Only CIG knows! But the inventories don't scale with player population: if the player count grew over the last year, the stocks didn't.

[versed forge]

Well trading was going to be my main profit

But I guess I'll switch to mining for now

[crimson mantle]

Sadly, even doing monitoring missions will net much more profit with a MAX than trading will at the moment.

[versed forge]

What is a monitoring mission lol

[crimson mantle]

A titanium run at best prices nets 21k, takes 10 mins 😦

[versed forge]

Titanium on the MAX?

[crimson mantle]

Yes

[versed forge]

And at best means in full stock.

[crimson mantle]

In that amount of time you can make 2 missions at 20k each

The monitoring missions are the missions that ask you to halt illegal surveillance by destroying spy satellites

[crimson mantle]

Correct

Those missions pay 20k each and are extremely easy

No one is fighting back

[versed forge]

missions or cargo haul?

I'm a tad confused.

[crimson mantle]

Sorry 😄
I'm basically saying that the best cargo haul in your current situation is ½ as good as a simple mission (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=star+citizen+halt+illegal+surveillance), UEC/min-wise.

So you could consider building up funds doing those easy missions

[versed forge]

Okay, thanks.

[north oyster]

I have done this!!

[north oyster]

One trick for the illegal monitor mission is to first find all three of the monitors before shooting any of them. If you get within 2km of them they will give you a permanent pip marker

Once you find all three then destroy them that way you can have them all killed before any NPC ships show up. At that point you do not have to engage the NPCs to get paid

[tacit otter]

have you never looked at diamonds and titanium for PO?

[north oyster]

Diamonds from T&M to PO use to be a great run but PO stopped buying

[tacit otter]

oh, thats a sham

[north oyster]

Yeah, it was over of my favorite runs

[crimson mantle]

It did use to be a nice quick run. Maybe it'll make a comeback in some fashion with the introduction of Orison.

[desert basin]

good place to mine quantum?

[north oyster]

Using @crimson mantle website, found a high volume Astatine outpost (Woodruff on Ita) and sold at CBD in Lorville. I didn't note the buy price but sell was low at 8.51
That run (not including fuel expense) gross sale of 71,102 aUEC. Was able to fill the Hercules C2 in one stop.

[tacit otter]

whats the loop time @north oyster

[north oyster]

under 10, fuel price about 3700

Woodruff also has a large pad, which makes it easier for the Herc

I'm pretty sure if we try to run that loop back and forth, we will see both buy and sell prices go against the carrier

I guess I could go to A18 TDD and alternate destinations. Also Ryder is a high volume, so it might balance the buy price a little

[tacit otter]

hrm, you have to consider round trip time and fuel refill time

like I guess you could just ignore refueling if youre doing less than 25 trips (3700 is about 3-4% fuel), and just claim it before you log off

[north oyster]

True, she has huge jugs .... uh, tanks and can go and go without any refueling. I ran out of time or I would've timed a loop from Ita to A18 and margin from that.

[odd flint]

How much success are people having selling their quantanium after refining? For a while there it was tough to sell and I was getting stuck with ships full of quant just waiting for a 30k.

[hollow sedge]

I did a run from Clio to New Babbage in an Andromeda and sold a full load of medical supplies

[ebon moon]

Try NB, nobody goes there for some reason. I can sell a huge load everytime.

[mortal kettle]

how is impact head instead of lancet for quant in prospector? or is lancet + surge / stampede better?

and what modules/ consumables for impact? optimum/ surge?

[night ibex]

Lancet in best Imo with the consumeables. I never have issues breaking rocks

[ebon moon]

Lancet + Surge just to speed things along. I also use brandt once I'm in the green, once again, just to speed things along and do it 100% right the first time. Those of us without a throttle wheel thingy can't just set what % we want, we have to watch it wildly jump 20% when scrolling up and then minus 1% when scrolling down.

[manic whale]

Im working on Prospector with passive modules only and havent found good combo for Impact head. I switched to Helix+ Vaux3+Rieger3+Focus3. So far so good, I only need to find a G-spot :) sometimes with bigger rocks = move around, so not for MOLE.

[spare bridge]

Can you get two ROCs in a connie without TOO much trouble?

[tacit otter]

its a little difficult
they have to face each other and youll struggle

[spare bridge]

I guess I'll give it a try during the fleet thing coming up

So the Mole has 96 cargo, if I fill it up with all good ore, how much SCU does that end up with after refining?

[hollow sedge]

i may have made a mistake

but basically

where can i sell slam

apparently nowhere buys slam anymore?

[spare bridge]

how much you got?

[hollow sedge]

24scu

[spare bridge]

sc trade tools says "No Questions Asked" Trading Console
Stanton > CRU L5 > CRU-L5 Beautiful Glen Station
¤9,000 UEC

[hollow sedge]

i tried but that place only buys like 1scu

[spare bridge]

Stanton > CRU L4 > CRU-L4 Shallow Fields Station ?

[hollow sedge]

hmm

didnt go to that one