industrial-professions

[mellow delta]

But 20k

:C

[north oyster]

if you're clearing 70k per run, then you'll be ok

[mellow delta]

If i go stealth, any improvments?

[fickle zephyr]

yes

[mellow delta]

Such as?

[north oyster]

I'm seeing deliveries getting some love eventually. I crawled my way up doing Pizza runs

[fickle zephyr]

pirates need to come close to see you

idk about police

[north oyster]

Yeah, NPC police don't seem to be affected by stealth

[mellow delta]

Bad police

:C

[crimson mantle]

Well, police usually aren't around drug labs

But they may stop you randomly in the vicinity of any planet

[mellow delta]

But sell points?

[fickle zephyr]

with a stealth equipped 315 the PVE pirates that sometimes drop you out of quantum travel will have a hard time to see you

[mellow delta]

Thats the big problem

[crimson mantle]

I mean, slinging drugs will always be tricky 🙂

[mellow delta]

So basicaly if i go very stealth i will have no probs with pirates?

[mellow delta]

True lol

Gotta risk it for the biscuit

[fickle zephyr]

well pvp pirates have a real brain so thats always unpredictable

[crimson mantle]

You may still be stopped and pulled out of quantum by pirates, but if you're stealthy enough they will just sit there instead of engaging

[mellow delta]

So basicly just go a bit forward and resume qt?

[crimson mantle]

*NPC pirates

[mellow delta]

Yh

[fickle zephyr]

npc pirates you will be able to run away from if they even see you

[mellow delta]

Pvp suckas are the worst

Doesnt need context

[north oyster]

Yea, the very first time I got jumped by npc pirates I had no clue and allowed myself to get destroyed. I was ticked thinking it was real players that did that. Once others helped me realize what had happened, NPC pirates are a non-event. I even had one jump me when I was in a Prospector that had no guns, I just out ran them.

[mellow delta]

So you just run when they stop u?

Lol

[north oyster]

if you are in a ship with no guns, Yes. Why let them destroy me?

[mellow delta]

315p is kinda slow

[north oyster]

NPCs can spawn at anytime anywhere

[mellow delta]

But ill live with it

[mellow delta]

Ship?

[north oyster]

yes, NPC ship (thanks)

[mellow delta]

Uh

What ship do they use? Make and model?

[north oyster]

I was dropping to a moon surface from an orbital marker and one met me on the surface. They use all types

[mellow delta]

Ah

Ok

So i have to be prepared to get chased

And possibly get out runned

[north oyster]

it's part of the game matrix. Always accept Call to Arms and if only one, then I'd say take him out

[mellow delta]

Lol

[crimson mantle]

If you afterbrun to max speed, while charging your next QT jump, there's usually no problem.
Only if a player catches you in atmo, then it's a different story.

[mellow delta]

Then ur screwed

[north oyster]

First habit in the game is to accept Call to Arms when you first log in. It generates extra coin

[mellow delta]

Wdym

[north oyster]

When you kill a red NPC, you will get 500 to 2000 aUEC for the kill

[mellow delta]

Mhm

Thats ok

To kill time

[north oyster]

When I'm running medium trade in the MAX, I always have that and take out what ever NPC pirates may come. But a lot of times it is about 5 of them, so I run, LOL

MAX has way too much oversteer to dogfight

[mellow delta]

If i de couple and go max speed, can i just go to the turrets myself?

[crimson mantle]

Technically yes, but you're much better going max speed, decoupling, turning towards your destination and punching it,

[mellow delta]

Hmmm

And then use turrets?

If i have any

[crimson mantle]

I meant jumping away 🙂

Traders will rarely choose to fight with 100k$ in the cargo hold

Almost nothing can prevent you from fleeing

The only things are: atmosphere (only on planets really, moon atmos are really thin), a Mantis or a cutlass blue.

And NPC pirates don't run those

[mellow delta]

I thought they disable ur qt or something

[crimson mantle]

Right, they sort of do, or at least they used to), but you can always go max speed on them and jump as soon as it comes back online. It's like a 30s wait.

[mellow delta]

Ah

30s is not much

Tbh

[crimson mantle]

Since the last patch, guns are also less precise at high speeds.

So you can use that to your advantage.

[mellow delta]

Stonkers

[crimson mantle]

Divert power to rear shield and watch as the occasional lucky shot barely does anything! 😄

[mellow delta]

Lol

[fickle zephyr]

when you are running drugs the most likely places to see pvp pirates is at the buy and sell points

[mellow delta]

Yh

Cause they are smart

And i dont like that

:c

[fickle zephyr]

it havent been very common for several patches

if they add game mechanics so you can steal cargo properly it will probably be common in the most popular spots

[mellow delta]

Thats bad

Gotta install new locks on 315p then

:P

[fickle zephyr]

like with an unattended ROC in the back of a ship with the ramp down many pwople would take the opportunity to go in and empty the ROC cargo

if they passed by

[mellow delta]

Ofcourse they would

[gray moon]

dang i should've had call to arms active all those times i cleared out kareah

[north oyster]

I think it is only for ship kills, but any extra is always appreciated

[modern hedge]

why can i never find stock 😦

except on trash or sum

[north oyster]

The trade system is trashed at the moment in this patch. I think cig is driving everyone towards doing bounties

You can run diamonds from T&M on Celin to a TDD on A18 or CBD on Hurston

[hollow sedge]

Ye. Im hoping Smuggling is fixed in 3.13. Smuggling,Trade,Passenger Hauling and maybe exploration are what im interested in.

[rustic shoal]

Anyone have a chart of the value of ore to mine, can't find a useful one on google

[fallow glacier]

Selling value goes down by abit based on demand
Like quantanium is selling for now 80 now.

You should still get an approximate idea anyway

[rustic shoal]

sounds good, thank you

[smoky olive]

What armour are you supposed to use on Aberdeen cause I use the Pembroke and it’s still too hot

[fickle zephyr]

it will only give you a few extra minutes

valuable minutes

[crimson mantle]

Here's the value of all the ores, plus some useful info on each 🙂 https://sc-trade.tools/ores/MISC Prospector or Argo Mole
It's updated automatically with each patch!

[humble mason]

Is there any way around the cooldown timer to sell refined quant at a TDD? Gonna take a week at this rate.

[crimson mantle]

ArcCorp is your best chance: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Quantainium
But no, no way around it: people are duping minables right now, and they slam the server with it. There's so much to sell it's saturated.

[north oyster]

One thing I did was run to the different TDD's (MT, HUR, A18). For Laranite and Agricium, Area18 seems to be the worst. The refresh rate is stupid low or it is getting slammed by bots selling off with infinite cargo.

[hoary monolith]

With the abuse of the infinite cargo bug what are the chances of an economy reset for the next patch?

[mellow delta]

Best cargo ship in the 100-150 range? (Can be concept)

[north oyster]

CIG really doesn't consider a wipe based off of exploits. Rather what they need for a clear matrix of data and performance.

That said, I think with the physicalized inventory coming online offers that "reset" point, imo

[hoary monolith]

thats for 3.14, right?

[north oyster]

The MAX is maybe the best in that range because of lower operational cost and great roles in other areas

Yes, parts in 3.13 but their are aiming for 3.14. SuperMacBrothers just did a video on the Feb report and sort of agreed that 3.14 might be prime

[mellow delta]

What about the andromeda? Its a loaner to the taurus snd is 150 or so

[north oyster]

I love the connie ships. The "lift" system they use instead of ramp bothers me at the moment for other roles. Great ship though, hands down

No idea if they have nailed the cargo ability of the Taurus yet

[mellow delta]

Plus, the taurus is going to have more scu because its medium freight

[mellow delta]

No one knows anything lol

[north oyster]

The MAX is a flying brick and has a number of down sides, but I have to respect her performance and roles. I bought one ingame early on as one of my very first ingame ships and she helped me crack the "income code" LOL

[mellow delta]

Lol

The freelancer was only ok when it was free and the MAX seems kinda OK but idk tbh

[north oyster]

I don't you would go wrong with the Connie Taurus at all, I think it will bring the love to the connie line that she needs

The MSR will be purchaseable ingame in a patch or two also

[mellow delta]

Ah, im thinking the taurus will have more than 100 scu so its very good, specially for 150

cries in 187

The msr has around 115scu(nit sure) and is around 200 dollars

[north oyster]

oh, you're thinking of pledging for one and not in-game? My apologies, I was only thinking aUEC application

[mellow delta]

without my vat

[mellow delta]

Oh, lol, ye

[north oyster]

The Corsair is going to be an awesome ship and has the Connie and Bucc as a loaner

I think I'm more excited about her than any other ship so far

z_ship Corsair

[stark torrent]

Drake Interplanetary (DRAK)

Corsair

The Drake Corsair is a multi-crew explorer that gives up defenses for a focus on versatility and defensive weaponry. With asymmetric, convertible wings and a large cargo hold, the Corsair adapts gracefully to unfamiliar atmosphere, combat situations, and hot landing zones. Up to four crew can be accommodated in the Corsair's functional quarters, and a full complement of scanning suites along with a pair of quantum fuel tanks provide the means and method of exploring distant, dangerous stars.

Role

Exploration

Crew

1 – 4

Cargo

72.000 SCU

Length

55.000m

Height

31.000m

Beam

56.000m

Mass

N/A

Combat Speed

N/A

Max Speed

N/A

Loaner(s)

Constellation Aquila
Buccaneer

Current Price

US$215.00

Status

In concept

Links

Pledge store · Presentation · Brochure · StarShip 42 · FleetYards

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[north oyster]

Cargo is a little on the low side though

[mellow delta]

Yh

The aquila is the exploration one, right?

[north oyster]

yes, expedition variant

But dang those guns, LOL

[mellow delta]

Lol

[compact river]

I'd like to try out mining. Any beginner tips or tricks?

[lavish marlin]

Check out some videos about it

once you get the basics it goes pretty smooth

[compact river]

Planning to rent a prospector

Do I go mining on the MicroTech planet's surface or do I go to MIC-L1?

[thorny copper]

microtech climate is way too stormy, maybe clio

the other two moons can be pretty windy too from what I recall

[compact river]

What does the storm do?

Also does storing the ship get rid of the quantanium timer?

Or is landing enogh

[thorny copper]

it will blow your ship around like a little plastic bag

quantinium timer never stops, you can store your ship to stop it exploding but it will still be rendered inert after x time

[compact river]

Are there specific locations where I can find the rocks? Only been finding tiny ones

No quantanium at all

[thorny copper]

best spots for quantinium is asteroid fields

like the big aaron halo around stanton

belt around yela can be pretty good too, but riskier

[compact river]

How do I get there? I cant click it in the star map

[thorny copper]

you have to plot between two destinations that cross the field then cancel your quantum drive at the right time

[fickle zephyr]

storing the ship will keep the raw quantinium safe

[green sundial]

^I've come back days later and the quant was still there ready to be used

[fickle zephyr]

the ship stores automatically if you get out of the pilot seat and backspace, but if refuel/repair/restock is ongoing the ship bugs out instead

and refuse to store instead

so i have the habit of doing that before i lift instead of after i land if im in a hurry

[north oyster]

Two types of mining. Large Ore or ROC mining. ROC would be better suited for earning and learning multiple aspects of the game. Mining with Prospector had issues with selling what you have refined.

[stoic hawk]

^ Seconding this, Prospector mining is currently kinda borked due to rarely being able to sell what you dig up.

[odd flax]

Anyplace other than Grimhex for selling widow in 3.12.1?

[hot leaf]

Is anyone doing cargo hauling?

[thorny copper]

Hauling any kind of minerals is pretty screwed atm

[old inlet]

damn i wanted to haul some shit

[green sundial]

its not worth hauling anything atm

[thorny copper]

you could haul scrap or aerosols for the fun of it I guess

[coarse cape]

Yeah

[mellow delta]

Lol

Go mine

Or hunt bounties

[teal wing]

Is it best to sell only one type of ore to the ore selling console, or does it not matter? I've been selling random stuff like beryl alongside quant ore, but I don't know if it would be best to leave that stuff behind or avoid picking it up

[mellow delta]

Shipp? How much cargo we talking about?

[hot leaf]

I know

[teal wing]

MOLE, so I have the space to pick random stuff up, but I don't know if the ore console sees a whole mix of stuff as being 'contaminated' or something

[mellow delta]

Idk

It shouldnt

[teal wing]

Okay, thanks ^^

[mellow delta]

Try selling one type, backing out and try to sell the second

I dont have the game so idk

For the hauling world, the next patch will be a big one

[coarse cape]

Yeah I agree plus from what I’ve seen bounty rep sometimes doesn’t distribute correctly when doing shared bounties so you’re basically doing normal bounties faster lmao

[mellow delta]

Lol

[coarse cape]

I went from hrt to high rep in vhrt in like 5 mins cuz I was in a group of friend

3 friends*

[mellow delta]

How much scu will the taurus have approx?

[thorny copper]

most guesses seems to be around 150-250

[mellow delta]

Eh, for 150 dollars its ok

BUT I, HAVE TO PAY 187

DAMN IT

[proud hearth]

ROC miners - do you find better creds per hour by exclusively picking up hadanite or picking up anything that shows up?

[north oyster]

focus on hadanite if on a moon that has good ratio (aberdeen or arial) I do stop for dolvine if it is a huge deposit, otherwise, I do not. @proud hearth

[static saffron]

will a Star Runner load a ROC

[proud hearth]

Yes, can load 2 ROCs comfortably, probably more if you cram them in

[mellow delta]

No problem

[static saffron]

Thank You @proud hearth

once my 3060 comes in i will give it a go.

[mellow delta]

Btw: it even fits in the back of a nomad or a cutty black

[proud hearth]

nomad is what I would call a glitchy fit. Sometimes you can raise the cargo pad and it's fine, sometimes the ROC glitches pretty bad

[mellow delta]

Tru, but its physics and the ramp broken

[coarse cape]

It can loud 3 a bit tight(maybe a little walking space), 4 for really tight meaning people will have to stay in the cargo bay and some roc’s might be on each others wheels

Just easier to load 2 if you don’t want a hard time lol

[static saffron]

Even Better Thank you

[hot leaf]

Hey guys, is AGricium valuable?

for mining

[coarse cape]

Only ship mining

Last I checked^

[molten laurel]

Anyone need another player to help mine?

[proud hearth]

There's been an unfortunate QT accident 😭

(there was some hadanite in the ROC's cargo that decided it wanted to be whole again

Alpha problems require alpha solutions

I uhhh, might have overcooked the rock a bit

New Objective: SURVIVE.

Oh hey some Hadanite!

[real narwhal]

Have u checked out any caves @proud hearth ?

I haven't surface mined at all yet

[proud hearth]

yeah surface mining is most of what I do

don't think the ROC fits in those caves

and hand mining is quite slow with the stowing speed limit

[real narwhal]

Oh? I havent gone to look

Saving up for prospector?

[coarse cape]

Yeah the roc is too small last time I went to a cave

When we get the new caves the roc should fit

[proud hearth]

yet another thing I love about my little 125a shuttle, it's small enough to be spawned on planetary vehicle pads

[coarse cape]

Nice nice

[proud hearth]

great for when your cutlass has an unexpected explosive event

[coarse cape]

I use a msr when I used to go roc mining

[real narwhal]

Roc mining seems cool but spawning ur ship then landing, spawning the roc, loading.... Then mining seems tedious.

Cant wait until u cant just choose to spawn with it in cargo hold

[coarse cape]

Yeah it is, but imo I think it’s worth for getting 200k per full roc

[real narwhal]

Not bad returns

[thorny copper]

yeah the whole pre-flight procedure for ROC got me bored with it before I had even gotten to the mining part

[coarse cape]

Yeah it did

I do more bounty hunting now then I do roc mining

[real narwhal]

I wanna get a fully manned mole going sometime

[coarse cape]

It’s fun doing that

[thorny copper]

Always been max 3 in a mole

[coarse cape]

I did 4 people

[thorny copper]

Tbh profits kinda divide down a bit much for 4 imo

[real narwhal]

I got one but use the prospector for now 75% of the time for quant. Just grinding hur3 -> cru1

[coarse cape]

Yeah but we got like 100k each since we did back to back runs

And got lucky with 2 full loads of bexa

[real narwhal]

Ive run 2 ppl in the mole and worked real nice. Farmed aaron halo for awhile

[coarse cape]

Yeah 2 people work. I just find it easier with 4 since we can always move quickly to each rock

[real narwhal]

I imagine u can crack rocks quick

[thorny copper]

I do the occasional mining run with company now but only because to avoid bounties getting too repetitive

[coarse cape]

Yeah we can.

[thorny copper]

I just want my trading back

[coarse cape]

^

Bounties been getting boring lol

We need another event like xt since that was fun and went well

[real narwhal]

Thats why i like aaron halo. They stayed in side laser in would park in a cluster of 4-7 rocks and hop into the middle. Sometimes someone hop into the other side if they are spread out a bit

[thorny copper]

Its super easy like 90% of the time until you end up on that empty server and the ai suddenly knows how to aim and fire back lol

[real narwhal]

Yes

[coarse cape]

I got memed by a hh in my harb lol. I got into the spot where 90% of the turrets can aim and man it was just red

[real narwhal]

😆 replied to wrong one but still works

[coarse cape]

Lol

[real narwhal]

The banu is so fun to fuck with connies and hh's

Crank the speed and tank the rest and ping away

I miss the unmarked jumptown days of trading

It was sketchy and fun

[proud hearth]

You can already do that, I've stored my Cutlass with the ROC inside and when I call the cutlass the ROC is already inside

[real narwhal]

I know that. Im saying if it isn't stored that way, you should be able to

[north oyster]

Be sure that you close up the ROC before you store it. When you get out of it, by default it stays open unless you turn around and manually close it. If you stow it while open, it can cause issues next time you use it

It will turn into a coffin

[proud hearth]

that might be what caused my QT incident posted above, I had the ROC door open and QT'd to Crusader from Hurston

[north oyster]

I make a habit of closing the ROC everytime I park her in a ship.

[north oyster]

I do think they did address the "ROC Coffin" (as I call it) where when you get in, all input dies and you have to basically reboot the computer. It was pretty ugly.

[heady spade]

trading isnt dead

you can still make 100k in about 15ish minutes or less using some trade routes

and 250k with a larger investment

the 100k was on a 200k fillup, netting u 300k, minus expenses which is 100k profit

[ember star]

I do about 3 rounds of cargo in my MSR every time I sign on. It takes maybe about 20 minutes to do and I make about 60k for it. The good thing about the MSR is that it can have really fast QT. Hurtson to PO in 2 minutes

[quartz laurel]

The risk of a 30k means I stay away from trading until that is fixed.

[fickle zephyr]

sounds like drugs

[heady spade]

it is drugs

[fickle zephyr]

https://media.giphy.com/media/26ufcCR0Q3WmgzO8w/giphy.gif

how much SLAM is feasable to sell nowadays

[fickle zephyr]

2.42 for XL1 and 3.13 for TS2

plus calibration/spooling ofc

[north oyster]

there are certain things you can not sale as a rule. Any items that is a metal that is mined. Laranite, agricium, etc. Gases, and whatnot are "ok" to sell. With the infinite refinery cargo bug, those are clogging up the server side. Took me two days just to try to sell about 32 SCU of those ores.

[safe kraken]

SLAM to Orinth?

Are you actually able to sell it though?

I've had stock issues even with SLAM.

[hollow sedge]

I havent played for a while. Everyone telling that trading is dead now, could anybody explain quickly why?

[thin jackal]

Hey guys I'm actually beginning the game since last week, I was doing bounty mission until then, but I'd like some advice on mining, is it worth it as a farming method? I'd like to get some money mainly for buying a new ship!

[loud belfry]

its an alternative to bounties

i guess if you are good at it it can come close

and its not as brain dead as bounties

[heady spade]

yeah

[coarse cape]

There’s been an issue going around with stock and trade panels not working from what I’ve seen. Plus the bug mention by tripperdan.

[safe kraken]

Where are you purchasing it?

[heady spade]

the place on yela

sell at hurston because grim is still bugged

[safe kraken]

Interesting. It's always out of stock when I go there.

Glad it works for you at least.

[ember star]

Let's say I have 5 million aUEC. What ship would be best to invest in to increase profits? Prospector?

Or should I just wait for 3.13 and see if trading is fixed?

[mellow delta]

Wait

If u want money rn get a good ship for bounties or mining, but idk if thats ok rn too

[stoic hawk]

Honestly, wait until trading is fixed and buy a cat, if you want to make money currently without a large investment rent a Connie for 70k/day and run HRT/VHRT groups.

Or you drop 2m/2.5m on a Vanguard/Prowler to run said bounties, but a Connie will do the job easily with the stock loadout.

[thorny copper]

The problem is you still need to use the trading mechanics once your prospector ores have been refined

Unless you sell the raw ores for shit profit

[stoic hawk]

^ And refined minerals are 90% of the current trade issues

[ember star]

I have a Hornet Ghost, Eclipse, and MSR right now.

[thorny copper]

Yup its often refineries causing the dupe bugs from what I can tell

[ember star]

I'm talking about making a ton of money, not just grinding.

How much do you usually make per run in a prospector?

Hm. I'm just going to wait until 3.13 then

Try not to eat into my 5 mil until then.

I wish I could bank it and have it collect interest

[thorny copper]

Bounties or roc mining are the most sure ways of making buck currently I guess

[ember star]

Yeah that's how I got the 5 mil

[rustic shoal]

Yeah ROC works well, I've also been loading a cat full of scrap from Lorville and selling at PO for like 32k profit, trading is buggered rn but it's where my heart lies so im still having fun

[ember star]

I kinda do want a CAT.

Especially for my Diamond runs

[rustic shoal]

I have it as a loaner rn while I wait for my C2

It's not bad but can't wait for that C2

[ember star]

Can you fit a P52 in a Cat?

[rustic shoal]

I dont believe so, nor have I tried, I have a friend who wants to jam the Merlin in everything

I avoid breaking this game or my ship tho

[mellow delta]

Lol

[proud hearth]

I met a cat pilot that swore they could jam at least one merlin in each cargo pod

[lethal kayak]

Imagine 30k-ing with a full C2..hurr durr durr....IMAGINE 😄

[ember star]

I think there is a YouTube video about it

[rustic shoal]

already bracing for it

[cosmic otter]

is ROC mining still super profitable?

[north oyster]

Yes, can make good coin, over 200k per full hadanite run

[cosmic otter]

whats the best place to mine hadanite

[north oyster]

I believe the Prospector is maybe the best "next" ship. That is how I did it and will do again after the "great reset" that eventually will happen when they prep for 4.x version

[north oyster]

I really like Aberdeen and some like Arial. There are other places. I use to mine MicroTech because it was 100% hadanite, but those days are gone.

The Pembroke armor will be needed. You can get it half price at the refinery store

[ember star]

I ended up going with the Cat. I like hauling.. especially since it allows me to explore the verse more. I’m just hoping once the C2 is released it’ll be fixed

[north oyster]

CAT is a great ship. Trade is mostly broke, but if you chose non-metal freight, then you should be ok. Scrap works great, Diamonds from T&M to a TDD should work good also.

I have a CAT as a loaner for my C2. I have 3 Prospectors (so I never have to wait for a claim), I also have a number of ships on standby to ferry the ROC.

[ember star]

Yeah, I’m familiar with the only working trade routes. I do a circle of Diamonds and Scrap between Hurston and Crusader

[north oyster]

good move, I think that's the primary trade available for now. Might get a little redundant but offers decent return on effort.

[lethal kayak]

Great reset? Reset of what? aUEC? ships bought with aUEC?

[ember star]

Everything that's not bought with cash

The only for sure thing in this game is $$ at the moment.

[north oyster]

it won't be soon, so don't worry

[ember star]

I'm not sure why everyone is worried about a reset.. it's part of testing. You just work your way back up again.

[north oyster]

agreed, but I don't see it happening until they want to establish a baseline for physicalized inventory and control. Might happen before end of year

[ember star]

I'm estimating 6 - 12 months TBH. Who knows with how they are pushing things back.

[north oyster]

This Invictus Week will be my 1yr anniversary. So I've not gone through a reset as prior players have. I understand it use to happen with each patch until they started getting the persistentcy working

[ember star]

Is your fleet mostly purchased with aUEC @north oyster ?

[north oyster]

My RL fleet is the Cutlass Black, ROC, 325a, C2 and Corsair (with loaners). All else is in game. I haven't counted, but I think I have about 20 ships ingame now I've bought. With the 600i being the most expensive.

So the lion's share is aUEC ships

I have an LTI token I'll probably use to get a Prospector. That way, as far as earning potential, I will have my bases covered after a restart.

[ember star]

I have a Hornet Ghost, Eclipse, ROC and MSR. The MSR will be my work horse, the Hornet is for bounties, and the Eclipse is mostly for large bounties and events. I finally found that these ships grind the most money the fastest for me.

I'm considering getting a larger ship like the Cat or C2 later.

[north oyster]

3.12 was very kind to bounties, so the earnings winner is that this patch

[ember star]

I bought the Cat in game just now and like it.

I want to see what the C2 is like first before I commit.

[north oyster]

The CAT is the loaner for the C2. I will say that I have been impressed with that ship. I didn't care much about the CAT before hand but after a few hours in the pilot's chair, I can say she is a solid ship.

[ember star]

Did it take you awhile to find the exit the first time you took it up as well?

[north oyster]

I was lost like a goose in a snow storm

I didn't even know the command module had two decks until last week

[ember star]

Yeah.. it took me so long I was almost kicked out of port

Which would have probably done me a favor

[north oyster]

during the free fly that let you get all the ships last year, it took me 3 tries until I finally figured out how to get into the Reclaimer.

[silk delta]

Any way to check how much cargo you have in your ship without going to a sales terminal?

[late mortar]

Not if you're out of your ship :/

It should be in mobiglass but if it is I've never seen it

[crimson mantle]

Not at the moment 😦

[steel flame]

Hello guys the trade is still broken ?

I haven't replayed the game since the console shipping bugs

[fallow glacier]

Yep it's broken

[steel flame]

ok thank you , I would come back to see in 3.13 😆

[fallow glacier]

Hopefully it'll be fixed by then 🤞

[mellow delta]

Ship? If it has a ramp open it

[lethal kayak]

Wish there was a way to do that yeah, especially with ships like the Catterpillar or MAX

[quartz needle]

How can people make money with cargo trade? Every time I want to fill my caterpillar it is always such limited stock

[undone socket]

any idea what the downtime is about, are they implimenting something?

[hoary monolith]

You can do ROC mining or bounty hunting for now

[fallow glacier]

#rsi-updates

[steel flame]

yes I know but I'm bored of ROC and mining with bugs I lost too much money and time.

[hoary monolith]

I've been relegated to bounty hunting for the same reasons. I prefer anything but fighting, but right now its the only thing that you can be sure to complete.

[lost canyon]

they will wipe again ? :///

[steel flame]

I would wait to see in 3.13 to see if the trading system attracts me again without console bugs
to replay the game . I'm 70% Trade gameplay 30% citizen gameplay. the rest does not attract me

[thorny copper]

expecting at least two more wipes before the game releases

but likely there will be more

[lost canyon]

shouldnt be so hard to keep us ships or transfer it to money and keep that

[north oyster]

A wipe is certain, but not seeing it for awhile. That will happen when CIG needs data or matrix for game advancement. Of course when it happens is the mystery.

Everyone will be reset back to what they brought into the game

[fallow glacier]

Game will probably not be appealing to you , till some form of quanta is in or multiple systems to trade across.

[lethal kayak]

When it comes to trading, mining and refining included, it just makes sense that they implement seperate cargo options & tracking....i.e. guilds of miners banding together and dumping refined ore into a guildmembers catterpillar ...then being able to track the amounts upon selling etc...I feel teamplay is not at all promoted yet (even for things like the Mole)

[fallow glacier]

They did say they're physicalizing cargo soon
Should be possible to give cargo to someone else after its done

[lethal kayak]

Also, having to go through 2 elevators to get to refining terminal...dunno... feels like they could eventually make a "detach all cargo containers" and "initiate swap with empty containers" in space or near the refinery... allowing you to select or atleast temporarily store items in such a way

even an intermediate ship capable of doing this would be awesome

[fallow glacier]

We're supposedly getting a refinery ship that we can directly dump ores into it
Hopefully it's true

[lethal kayak]

to create a sturdy supply chain for miners

the Orion?>

[fallow glacier]

Maybe a module to refine for modular ships like caterpillar or endeavour

Nope a dedicated refinery ship

It's a rumor tho

[lethal kayak]

well with 30ks lurking everywhere... id venture to say... HA

but id love to see a swapping mechanism and transport ships for miners

those pods on the prospector would look awesome if they disconected

[fallow glacier]

Yeah all this stuff will take another 3-5 years to get implemented, probably

[lethal kayak]

and could be swapped for empty ones

[fallow glacier]

Yeah we should be able to remove saddlebags it seems

Low Res image since website is down

[lethal kayak]

Yeah thats the shit i wanna see

would be awesome

[north oyster]

That'll probably be beta level stuff, but then again

[lethal kayak]

4.xx version, one can dream ;D

[north oyster]

Agreed

I'm thinking trade will get some love in this next patch, if not only for the Hercules

I didn't get a C2 to haul Tonks (only)

[crimson mantle]

Right now it's pretty rough. Best bet is to trade in highly-stocked commodities (https://i.imgur.com/3XNgXCy.png) with a refresh value of >25,000-50,000 on a Cat.
Even then, some commodities will have inventory issues. Let's hope for 3.13 to fix it!

[lethal kayak]

Wait is there a limit now on refined quantanium / bexalite? I've been dumping all my refinery works into a cat, to do 1 mega haul, for the lulz

(and that potential 30k) 😄

limit to sell i mean

[crimson mantle]

There is yes. You can look it up here: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Quantainium

It's shared across all servers.

[lethal kayak]

Max 5,000,000 units + at ArcCorp PSHHHH 😄

INFINIte POOOOOWEEERRR

Honestly tho, am still, after all this time, confused with cSCU, units, weight etc etc....

i can never tell how much is what

even with Refinery orders... its in ...say 1000-2000 range...

and i think thats like... 1scu / 2 scu's....

and theres like 560+ for a cat if im not mistaken... these things confuse me a bit

So in essence would 5mil units from ARCCORP translate into...erm about 10 catts worth?

as in 5mil units is 5.000 scu

[fallow glacier]

Probably and since it's shared across all servers , you won't get to sell much

There's bunch of people sitting at terminals and refreshing, especially with refinery bug/exploit

[lethal kayak]

What Bug?

Its been working pretty well for me so far

never lost a Work Order

[fallow glacier]

You don't lose a work order , it's opposite of that

[lethal kayak]

duplicating them>

?

[fallow glacier]

Refined ore multiplying in cargo
Yep

[lethal kayak]

so people have catts full of refined ore?

is this like 3.10 with drugs then? lol

[fallow glacier]

Kinds like that
It's been around since 3.12
One of reason trade is broken

Since December

[lethal kayak]

So everyone is ultra rich??

bah

and i wanted to do a single shitsNgiggles cat run of quanta

[fallow glacier]

Yep lol
There's reports on issue council since December

[lethal kayak]

and then come back next patcxh

[north oyster]

It's going to take a month of Sundays to sell it all. I did the same thing weeks ago before realizing it's all screwed

Next patch will probably reset the refineries and ships also.

[ember star]

I actually did the math. To sell an entire MSR at the rate it sells now it would take 75 hours.

So if it's a CAT you can multiply that by 3

[mellow delta]

Wait, whats even going on? If understand it, u sell and buy carog very slowly?

[ember star]

Most.. there are a couple of routes that work.

[mellow delta]

Smuggling affected too?

[north oyster]

Anything that is a refined product will be jammed and not sell. That's because of the refinery bug. Low demand items like gases, gems and scrap should sell easier (but not guaranteed)

[lethal kayak]

man i wish i knew about this bug before, i wouldnt have attempted to fill a cat full of quanta the legit way... for that goldrush feeling... now that honest dream...is broken... ehh

why havent they stopped refineries if its been so long?\

or..how hard is it to hard-code an hash-ID into a work-order and also double check hashes of cargo on the ship?

i guess a bit hard if they havent done anything about cargo.... but ....bahhh

[crimson mantle]

Almost all tradable commodities: 100 units = 1 SCU

[lethal kayak]

Welp...just tried selling my legit mined and refined small quantity of Bex/Quanta and i can't do shit.... people ruined it with this bug. bahh. Nothing to play for anymore

[thorny copper]

seems quite a few gets the bug unintentionally as well

[earnest rampart]

how bad is the bug, wanted to get back into cargo soon

and what does it even do

[thorny copper]

it starts duping the cargo in your ships so you can just keep selling it over and over forever

[earnest rampart]

I remember being able to sell full loads of laranite in an MSR for 75k profit in December/January, but also remember not being able to make any money from laranite and I hear people arent able to sell cargo because full inventories

[earnest rampart]

I heard of that one but isnt there a new one which breaks cargo?

[thorny copper]

ROC mined laranite should be fine since its already "refined" and sold directly at outposts for most part

I don't know, from what I heard there are more than one glitch/exploit yes but haven't looked into the details

[earnest rampart]

weird

so just buying laranite from bezdek then going to CBD is bad now?

[thorny copper]

probably, I haven't tried in like 2 months

[earnest rampart]

thats not good

[thorny copper]

unless you get glitched and gets a neverending stream of dough the most sure ways to earn credits atm seems to be either bounties or roc mining

[earnest rampart]

thats sad, I really like doing cargo

[thorny copper]

yeah same

haven't been working since like november

[earnest rampart]

I dont know why they had to mess up cargo even further though

[thorny copper]

Shits sold out everywhere all the time, and if you do get hold of something its almost impossible to get rid off

Its the unfortunate side effect of this bug

[earnest rampart]

so the bug never got patched?

or am i reading that wrong

[thorny copper]

Not yet no

Apparently its kinda hard to get to without changing up a lot of the entire system that powers trading etc

That's just what I've heard though so wouldn't take it as fact

[earnest rampart]

I thought they got rid of it in december

[thorny copper]

They fixed a precious trading bug last year is all I know

But this dupe glitch seems to have started around the time they introduced refineries

[earnest rampart]

that sucks

[crimson mantle]

People dupe refinery orders 😢
Trading any refined metal/mineral usually results in low sell prices/long wait times when selling.

[earnest rampart]

are there any stable alternatives that dish out some kind of profit?

[mellow delta]

Bounties

[earnest rampart]

pain

[coarse cape]

Bounties or like merc missions

Like doing the security station one where you have to kill some ai, it can net you about 20k per

[earnest rampart]

yeah kareah, what about grinding the 890 jump mission, doesnt that give 45k per?

[crimson mantle]

If you filter out metals, minerals and vices, add a reasonable refresh-rate, you're left with some gases and scrap: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Caterpillar%2522,%2522investment%2522:1000000,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:25000,%2522itemTypes%2522:%255B%2522Metal%2522,%2522Mineral%2522,%2522Vice%2522%255D,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%255D%257D

Profits aren't exactly impressive (and those numbers are the best case scenario)

[earnest rampart]

was gonna grind cargo to get either a prospector or a cat but at this point idk, I need to calculate time per uec and whatnot

[mellow delta]

Bountiesssss

[crimson mantle]

Missions and bounties take the cake this patch

[earnest rampart]

yeah

[mellow delta]

Yh

[earnest rampart]

I have a decked out super hornet I can do bounties with, except I never really started doing them so I gotta climb my way up lol

[mellow delta]

Lol

[crimson mantle]

It doesn't take all that long to earn your certifications

[earnest rampart]

yeah i watched my friend do some and he got to HRT in a customized mustang alpha lol

[mellow delta]

There are some illegal missions the hornet ghost is great, one of the rare uses for that ship

[earnest rampart]

are they worth grinding

in theory? I dont have a ghost

[mellow delta]

Im just mentioning

[earnest rampart]

oh

[mellow delta]

Eh, idk, ask someone with experience or has done them for longer periods

[thorny copper]

I just kit my ghost like the rest

[earnest rampart]

as long as its not too time consuming

since time is always a factor

[mellow delta]

Yuppp

[earnest rampart]

idk I just miss the laranite profits lol

[mellow delta]

Lol

[earnest rampart]

that was probably the most fun I had playing SC since it was always to some extent populated and there was always a risk

[mellow delta]

Fun is most important

[earnest rampart]

if I just wanted to grind Id do fps or roc mining but personally Id get bored from that

kinda why I was looking at getting a prospector, to see if asteroid mining is any better

or wahtever the misc mining ship is called

[thorny copper]

I get bored from just trading too long as well

variety is the spice of life

[earnest rampart]

yeah, at least for me there was usually some sort of wacky thing going on down at arial though

plus I did it with friends too

[mellow delta]

With friends, anything is good

[earnest rampart]

^

[mellow delta]

[earnest rampart]

I wish I had a friend there to remind me when I didnt remember grim hex couldnt buy 500k worth of vice

[mellow delta]

Lol

[earnest rampart]

I died a little

important lessons were learned about trading

but I think for now Ill see how much I can grind FPS missions then do bounties if possible, at least get like half a mil as a safety net so money isnt an issue anymore

[lethal kayak]

Question: If I just mine a butt-load of ore and refine it...and never pick it up.... does it carry over into the next patch?

[green sundial]

probably not

[proud hearth]

I've heard mixed answers on the matter (of wipes in general) where sometimes a patch hits and you lose nothing and other times a patch hits and you lose all sorts of in-game progress

basically, the only thing you're guaranteed to keep is your game package/pledge ships

which is why I haven't started saving for the carrack I want, because knowing my luck as soon as I get close a wipe will happen

[lethal kayak]

That's pretty much what i did in 3.10....where i dumped my money meant for 890J into another cat and a hammerhead....

It just bums me ...that the trading is so broken i cant do the one thing i want to do...calmly grind ore in a prospector....for some spare change for other ships...

[proud hearth]

I mean, you can still sell raw at least, so it's not all doom and gloom

[lost canyon]

wait so i shouldnt start mining ? Iam saving money for prospector cuz CAT is useless now, but u are saying I wont be mostly able to sell refined ores ?

[lethal kayak]

not mostly , completely unable to sell refined stuff

only thing possible is raw ores dump

[lost canyon]

soo people who mine now are selling raw ores or

cuz that means full trading (dont count scrap) and most parts of mining are bad ?

or u mine other stuff that doesnt need to be refined

Sorry, except prison IDK any ores, minerals stuff

[stoic hawk]

ROC mining is still gucci for income

But bounties are the main way of earning atm

[ember star]

I just had a pirate kill me.. take my Cat.. sold my cargo.. then sent me money for what I paid for the cargo.

[pallid temple]

You can't sell cargo from someone else's ship

[north oyster]

If you do mining with the Prospector, save time and grief and just sell the raw material (for this patch 3.12)

[north oyster]

The "do not ask" kiosks let you sell stuff you loot but it has to be from their own ship. So they probably off loaded the cargo

[pallid temple]

You can't offload cargo that's in a cargo grid

[north oyster]

Generous pirates?

[pallid temple]

Yep

[ember star]

Weird...

The entire thing was weird. I bought cargo at my usual spot and when o went back to my ship a Talon was parked on top of it

I looked around and did let see anyone so I Ray gunned it off

They came out of no where and killed me and waited for a half hour and gave me money

[stable lion]

I tried buying SLAM at jumptown and only managed to find 1-2 scu of it there rip

[ember star]

SLAM isn’t working at the moment

[stable lion]

is anything really working?

I'm only thinking about trade specifically for something different to do, I know with 30k's it is likely not going to make me much overall

but normally I don't visit many locations on the moons and planets and such

it might be nice to do

[ember star]

What is your largest cargo ship?

[stable lion]

the most SCU?

or like longest

[ember star]

Most SCU

[stable lion]

it would be a caterpillar loaner I have

[ember star]

Ah then you have options

[stable lion]

I also have a msr for smaller cargo in a more zippy ship

[ember star]

PO always buys scrap and Lorville always sells it

That’s a safe trip since it’s low cost and a safe route

You can do Diamonds as well which is where I got jumped today

[stable lion]

I see

[rustic shoal]

Yeah I typically just run scrap

With Cat you can get a 20-30k profit, at least that is if I did my math correctly

[stable lion]

trade anything on the return trip or go empty?

[crimson mantle]

You can always try to buy whatever Agricultural supply PO has in stock for the return trip: https://sc-trade.tools/en-route?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Caterpillar%2522,%2522investment%2522:1000000,%2522origin%2522:%2522Stanton%2520%253E%2520Crusader%2520%253E%2520Port%2520Olisar%2520%253E%2520Admin%2522,%2522destination%2522:%2522Stanton%2520%253E%2520Hurston%2520%253E%2520Lorville%2520%253E%2520Central%2520Business%2520District%2522,%2522allowableDetour%2522:0%257D

[stable lion]

I see

[earnest rampart]

Lol I’m poor

Can’t afford to get a prospector

[ember star]

I’m trying to figure out the best loud out for my MSR. I’m thinking about trying to lower EM as much as possible while also focusing on speed.

[crimson mantle]

The industrial shields and power plants are by far the biggest offenders.

Just replacing those with stealth components can cut your signature in ~14

In my opinion, it depends on what you are planning to do: roaming around with a R.O.C. in the back, trying not to get griefed? Stealth might be good.
When trading though, pirates usually wait at the outposts, where they have a visual. Stealth won't help much, if at all.

[north oyster]

Doing simple Stealth mods to the Prospector cuts the EM down by almost 70% and can be useful in make it less prone to griefers (except when you Ping for ore).

[fickle zephyr]

or use the laser

[serene hill]

is it only possible to mine ore because I saw that some stations sell minerals wondering if its in ore or refined form

[fickle zephyr]

refined

[north oyster]

The only "uninterrupted" mining game loops at the moment is Prospector/MOLE mining and selling the ore RAW (cut out refinery option). Or, mining with the ROC and selling the gems on the planet outpost stations. Refinery is completely hosed with the refinery bug that bogs all trade down.

[spring spruce]

just checking have many of the Argo Mole bugs been fixed? primarily the getting stuck in chair and storage randomly exploding at any point?

[fickle zephyr]

i havent experienced those bugs but the ones i have experienced in it are fixed

consumeables not working bug

still cant jettison cargo though

[north oyster]

Randomly exploding is a built in feature of the game, not limited to MOLE

[thorny copper]

Ships not exploding when they should explode is as well

[green sundial]

ships doing nothing when they should be doing something is also built in

[north ridge]

How do I sell these random boxes that I find in space? Is there a place at grim hex I can sell this?

[crimson mantle]

Grim Hex will buy a lot of stuff, but you can always make sure by checking: https://sc-trade.tools/shops/Stanton > Crusader > Yela > Grim HEX > Admin

[north ridge]

Where exactly in grim hex?

[ornate rock]

Admin I guess, take evelavtor down and go to the left, says it above the corridor

[north ridge]

So couple things, we are supposed to leave the boxes in our ship right? Then the terminal will recognize what boxes are placed on the floor in our ship?

Or does it have to be a cargo ship, not just any ship placing it on the floor?

Basically I need to understand if placing cargo on the floor of my ship counts because the grim hex terminal didn't seem to recognize what I had.

[crimson mantle]

Usually you need to have the cargo on the "cargo grid" of your ship.

[bright vortex]

what's a good place to mine for hadanite?

[lethal kayak]

daymar? yela maybe?

[subtle cradle]

Aberdeen has the highest concentration

[crimson mantle]

There's an app for that 😄
https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Greycat%2520ROC%2522,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%2522Hadanite%2522%255D,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522%257D

[subtle cradle]

Lol

[bright vortex]

lol thanks

[lost canyon]

Hey, should I get ROC or prospector ? what makes more money RN?

[mellow delta]

Depends

I think prospector

[stable gazelle]

full load of hadanite in ROC is over 200K, not sure of prospector

just have to watch out for griefers

[rustic shoal]

Love ROC

[stoic hawk]

Right now ROC will make you better money since you can actually sell what you mine

But Prospector has better earning potential assuming trading gets fixed

[lethal portal]

you can compete with ROC on Prospector only if you mining quantanium, in terms of aUEC / hr

and you will need Prospector + transport ship. Freelancer MAX, Caterpillar or whatever can acomodate 5-10 refining orders

[mellow delta]

Cargo and shiz is glitched

Dont do

[fickle zephyr]

if you cant beat them join them

[lethal kayak]

more like 50 orders

[north oyster]

Prospector ONLY if you are going to sell raw ore, don't waste time trying to do any refinery in this patch 3.12. It is totally messed up.
ROC is best return on effort for aUEC. I made two trips and pulled 168K and 203K aUEC. You sell on the moon surface at the outpost there (can be the same place where you spawned the ROC). Don't try to sell at the orbital stations or at the TDD.

Be sure to get the Pembroke Armor (for Hot climates) at the refinery store because it is half price there. You can also rent a ROC there (super cheap, only 4k) and also rent a Cutlass if you need a way to transport the ROC.

Aberdeen and Arial are good spots for mining in the ROC. If you use a planet side station to quantum jump on to the planet, then turn and try to go about 75k to 100k away from the station you QT'd to.

A another way to get to surface of moons is to QT to an orbital marker and drop to the surface from there. That way you can always choose a daylight side of the planet. ProTip: If you drop to the surface from OM-1 it will ALWAYS be daylight.

If you drop to the surface in a Prospector, uncouple and do a flip and be ready to start a burn to slow decent as soon as you see the horizontal indicator show up on the HUD. Not so bad for dropping in a cutty, but might want to stop a little early until you get use to the decent and approaching the surface at 1100 m/s

For small moons, the OM are only about 140k above surface. For large planets like Microtech, the OM are over 400k away.

[lethal kayak]

Due to refineries being broken...and the "unrefined" ores selling lower than previous patches.... mining is completely broken.. only way to go... if we assume you don't have 2mil+ rolling around in your pockets...is ROC mining....still fun...and u can make a decent profit. Having a drop-ship to transport ur ROC is perfect...since u can scan the planet for most optimum spots. Heck... if u got space... maybe even 2 ROC's...for that extra cargo space... although i doubt u have a Carrack/etc. to transport them

[fickle zephyr]

you can empty the roc cargo into a crate, no need for 2 rocs for that purpose

[north oyster]

I would not push the envelop, I normally sell off when over 50% to avoid loosing to server crash

[fickle zephyr]

you can stuff your backpacks and armours with it too

[lost canyon]

Well, I bought proscpector and will buy ROC too now, cuz is cheap af. (for refined I have cat lying around and for ROC Fr MAX).

[north oyster]

I would avoid refinery and just sell RAW ore. You can make up the 40% cut by making more rounds. If you try to fill a CAT with refined ore you will never be able to sell it, or rather I doubt you'll be able to sell it all before patch 3.13 drops next month

[lethal kayak]

Next month, YA RIGHT

[wet shadow]

How is the refinery’s broken?

[lethal kayak]

Refinery has a bug people are exploiting

giving infinite refined ore, billions of UEC

thus people flodded the market

so ucant sell shit,

[wet shadow]

I normally don’t have a problem with it........

That’s way I was asking

[lethal kayak]

As for why they didnt just x2 the raw ore prices and blocked the refinery terminal from functioning (easy bug fix for now, giving them time to actually fix)...is beyond me

[fickle zephyr]

maybe its more important for CiG to get the refinery tested

[thorny copper]

theres a lot of things they could do to make the gameplay better atm but that's not the point of this alpha

people getting fucked up over bugs is what they want for developments sake

expecting the game to be smooth sailing atm is missing the point of how development works entirely

[lethal kayak]

Don't know about others, but I rather enjoy mining, came back to test out the changes since I've been gone since 3.10...... only to find out its pointless.... i understand bugs... but this shit is game breaking

[thorny copper]

technically this is not a game at all, its a development platform that you can bugtest

[fickle zephyr]

and i enjoy trading but 3.9 was the trading patch

[north ridge]

I'll trade you two bottled waters for one burrito

[radiant leaf]

Pre ordered an orion with LTI in 2013. When can i fly it

[crimson mantle]

It's not on the foreseeable roadmap, which extends to the end of 2021.

[radiant leaf]

Maybe in 8 more years

[north oyster]

Wow, that's awesome, going to be great when she does eventually come out

Heck, I'd buy it from you, LOL

[radiant leaf]

Says the standalone is 575 now so IG worst case I'll get a small ROI

[north oyster]

that's a limited hull, right? I think the next time it opens up for a chance to buy that I'll melt a few things and get close to get it. I'm a sucker for the mining game play loop. But I am also excited for the Corsair. So I'm still hoping on vaporware ships

[lethal kayak]

sweet bejeebus how much did that cost

[tardy notch]

Forreal...

[radiant leaf]

500 with LTI

I am 0.0000014286% of the kickstarter.... huzzah!

Wiki says it was originally 325 I guess the insurance is worth.... if I ever get to use it...

I don't even pc game anymore. Have a 1070SC hooked up to my old i74770k with either a shorting PSU or thermal paste that's going bad. Sold my rhino hotas in 2016.

John roberts stole my baby and my dreams.

[tardy notch]

Damn bro thats a straight tragedy

[safe kraken]

The Orion might be released by the time you build a new PC.

[lethal kayak]

ahh yes, the ~Beta~ release! ...maybe one day....maybe

[crimson mantle]

For all you miners: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/m3kq7h/mining_all_the_deposit_info_right_here/ 😄

[silk delta]

So what does it mean if nothing shows up in this area?

Usually its obvious if the inventory is "full"

This not so much

Nvm mustve been the same inventory issue. I just waited and it came back again to sell.

[fickle zephyr]

price is red = shop inventory full

[north oyster]

You have to wait for demand to refresh. Might take 5 minutes or more. Earlier at Area18, none of the ore I was trying to sell was in demand

[north oyster]

Best to sell the mined ore raw in this patch

[real narwhal]

I mine 3 trips of quantanium a day using the slow with high yield refinement at cru1. Sell at area18. Do it daily, and when im done mining i haul it out. One trip a day.
Imo its worth the time.

I rarely spend more than 1hr at area 18. I just watch YouTube shit and check every 5-6 minutes

[jaunty lion]

Red + ROC owners: Do you like the combo? Going back and forth between the black and the red.

[lethal kayak]

I'm guessing (pure future speculation)...when game is released you''ll want a bit more cargo space vs. a MedBay... since you'll just be able to get that Cutty Red with more trading.

Also not sure if u can fit a ROC into a red

but def. into a black

[hollow sedge]

Is trading fixed yet?

[fickle zephyr]

red is my fav for roc

[hoary monolith]

nope, not until 3.13 at the soonest

[hollow sedge]

pain

[hoary monolith]

You can do ROC mining and sell at mining outpost, or ship mine nd sell raw, or try to transport scrap/med supplies/gasses

[livid cloak]

Why can't i sell Hadanite anywhere ? it's stored in my ROC. Get a service error.

[north oyster]

Depends on what you trade. Scrap and things like diamonds do pretty good. Other material that is mined and refined, not so much

[north oyster]

It you can't sell it at a moon side outpost, then it could be bugged. Can you remove it and place it in a box to sell?

Don't try to sell at space stations or cities TDD

[livid cloak]

don't know how to put it in a box ?

[subtle cradle]

@livid cloak there's a console on the back of your roc

Use it to drop all cargo in a box

[livid cloak]

TY

wish i knew that earlier, i just lost a bunch of AUEC.

[lethal kayak]

Losing stuff in Alpha...PSHH...get on the level of loosin 2MIL smuggling 😄 fun days those were..

[mortal raptor]

Hmm I m not able to find the "Optimum" mining consumable, i looked @ CRu-L1 / ARC-L1 mining support its not sold there. 😩

[manic whale]

https://finder.deepspacecrew.com/ShipMiningMods1/688d8f8b-b3ca-4f5c-acc5-f71dfaf2f5bd

[mortal raptor]

thx now it was on sell on Ar-L1

thx for the tool - will save it to my bookmarks

[north oyster]

Yeah, they mix the availability of consumables and the types of laser heads. I had needed a Helix S1 but HUR-L1 only had the size two. I think I found it at CRU-L1. One as to wonder "why" except they want us to have an adventure.

[green sundial]

new babbage has everything in one place

[hollow sedge]

okay how do I sell lots of widow at once? grim hex will only buy like 2 units at a time. I have 95 units on my ship. I'm going to be here forever

[north oyster]

for mining items, the stores at the refineries offer the items at half price. So the Pembroke amour cost only about 6k instead of 15k. Likewise with the laser heads and consumables

[green sundial]

yes but they were complaining about going to different places

[north oyster]

you will need to find all the locations that buy and then travel between all of them

[crimson mantle]

Unfortunately, only Grim HEX buys WiDoW, and only 10/refresh tick 😦 (https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer?q=%257B%2522itemName%2522:%2522WiDoW%2522,%2522itemQuantity%2522:95,%2522showDetails%2522:true%257D)
There's nothing to do but wait.

[hollow sedge]

Ah. Alright well I guess drug smuggling isn't for me then

[cinder osprey]

To the people who mine Quant, do you ever just get really bad runs? I've had really good runs and really bad runs, sometimes I go out and spend 30 seconds and find a 50% rock and other times I've spent 30-45 minutes and not found anything about 15%. Just really makes me not want to mine because I went out like 3-4 times and spend 30-45 minutes and found nothing 😭

[north oyster]

yes, not just Quantainium but mining in general can be like that

Some servers just seem to not spawn anything sometimes

[crimson mantle]

Given that 50% of Q-Type asteroids have less than 3% Quantainium in them, it's not too surprising! https://sc-trade.tools/deposits/Asteroid (Q-Type)
Even a "bad" 15% asteroid is better than 80% of the deposits out there 😄

[cinder osprey]

I see, still depressing sometimes

Would swapping servers when not finding much be useful? @north oyster

[north oyster]

That's what I do. But it got to where logging out in the ship's bed didn't work so great. Most of the time I was in Aaron's Halo when I pulled a crap hand and I always logged out in the rack.

On moon side, I would just keep pushing along (ROC mining or in the Prospector) and just use what would eventually pop up after 10 or 15 minutes of finding nothing.

[cinder osprey]

I've been mining in the asteroid fields around the L3s and have spent 30 minutes+ a few times not even finding 10-15% rocks

I guess I should just head to the station there and swap servers

[silk delta]

@crimson mantle what do the different type of asteroids mean? P, Q, S, etc

[crimson mantle]

They have different ores in them, just like the different deposits on the surface 🙂

[lethal kayak]

Best to farm around Yela belt, at GHex, plenty of Quantanium, some Bexalite, Laranites floatin around

[cinder osprey]

@lethal kayak Statistically thats not true

The moons of Microtech have the most Quant concentration and the L3s have a lot as well

[silk delta]

Anyone know why some asteroids are un-scannable?

[north oyster]

That happens a good bit, especially if the server is having issues. I've had times when the first 5 to 10 asteroids I've located would not scan.

[serene hill]

guys whats the best laser

for mining on a prospector

or in general loadout

nvm i found a video

[lethal kayak]

Theory vs Practice, accounting for speed and no gravity, i stand by what i said. Not that it matters tho, trade still fucked 😄

[north oyster]

Lancet with surge and optimal (or stampede) is popular. I still use the Helix for most everything.

Be sure to purchase at the refinery store because half price there

[silk delta]

That’s a great setup, but I swapped out my optimal for a Brandt because I didn’t like the additional instability associated with the optimal. I found it a lot easier to handle the secondary rock breaks with the Brandt since it dropped the instability so much

[cinder osprey]

@lethal kayak I mine in the L3's and have no problems, I've only ran into another person 1 time and it typically takes me 10-20 minutes to find a good rock to mine, aka over 25%. Also no gravity and right next to the refinery I plan on using so its very easy trips for me

[subtle cradle]

@cinder osprey do you mine quantanium in L3's?

[cinder osprey]

Yeah, if I'm ship mining I mine Quant

[subtle cradle]

I must give L3 a try then. Sounds nice and convenient

[cinder osprey]

As far as I know all of the L3s have the same spawn rates

[hoary monolith]

is there a way to keep the ROC from glitching in the Constellation elevator?

[serene hill]

guys im trying to sell quantanium but I can't at lorville any place to sell it at?

[pallid temple]

Have a player sat in the ROC

[lethal kayak]

Trading is bugged due to some people exploiting refinery bug that gives infinite-never ending stacking of ore onto your ship (like catterpillar)...thus them having literally billions in cargo ...and constantly selling (thus borking) it off.... Wait for next patch

Or go to..dunno...New Babbage, but they only buy small quantities...like 80k aUEC a pop ..until refresh

[gaunt depot]

so i was mining with ROC and had a 30k. when i logged on the ore is on ROC but when a try to sell it it gives an server error. any workaround or RIP??

[lethal kayak]

go to the back of the ROC and pick/drop the ore?

[north oyster]

Yes, open the ROC and see if you can transfer it to you personal storage in your armor

[gaunt depot]

thank you

[hoary monolith]

Thanks for the suggestion. I"ll see if I can hot the button and jump in the ROC before it bugs out. I may also try just leaving the elevator down while mining.

[north oyster]

If you have the option to use a ship with a ramp, that is maybe the best way to go on a regular basis for now. The Lifts always tend to clip and fail. I ended up getting (in-game) a Freelancer MAX as my ROC hauler because of the very wide ramp and easy roll on and roll off.

[hoary monolith]

@north oyster I have a Cutlass Black, but had rented a Conny to check it out as an upgrade.

[north oyster]

I love the Connie, such a great ship but the Lift is not a suitable method for the ROC. I keep a cutty, Valkyrie and a MAX on had for escort the ROC around.

[hoary monolith]

Any clue when the ship elevators will be fixed? I vaguely recall the tech needed was related to docking (physics grid meshing), which will be in 3.13

[crimson mantle]

Are you talking about the terrain-adjusting elevators/ramps? Q4 at the earliest

The physics grid stutter has been said to be caused by server desynch: the vehicle misses a beat and finds itself halfway into the elevator's floor. It then decides a bit at random where to go: up or down :/
That's what I've heard at least.

[hoary monolith]

I'm talking about being able to load vehicles like the ROC into the Connie without them glitching out

[crimson mantle]

Right. From what I've heard, it's more a server desynch issue than a physics grid one 😦
Maybe someone else knows more/can provide source.

[pallid temple]

Its a server tickrate issue

[hoary monolith]

Any idea what is needed to get it working? or when it might be usable?

[sharp rune]

so stacking Roc cretes for storage is a No No? I had 6 stored up stacked on my valk cargo area in a pyramid and 4 of 6 disappeared 😛

seems fine when u leave them spread out/unstacked. I had 3 full creates on my c8 for 2-3 days stored.

[pastel umbra]

What sort of quantities of refined quant can you sell at the moment?

[silk delta]

I had no problems selling near 120 SCU in a Freelancer MAX, but you just have to wait for the inventory to refresh at the TDD terminals. Took about 5-10 minutes waiting.

[ebon moon]

Is ROC mining better than prospector now? And can you still use the hangar trick to change the laser on the prospector?

[north oyster]

I would say ROC is better because of the refinery bug in 3.12. For Prospector, I would suggest just selling the RAW ore and not refining. That means a 40% decrease in profit but faster earnings and no bugs

Rentals can't be changed, they locked that out

But default laser does accept consumables, so that helps

[glacial flicker]

anyone looking to do some ROC mining?

[ebon moon]

Yeah, but even with consumables, you're not going to get quant out of a basic prospector laser, yeah?

[sharp rune]

when did they change that as far as I know the hanger trick still works as of like 2-3 weeks ago

[sharp rune]

I always have a crew down to roc mine. We go in a carrack, with a scout or 2 and 3 rocks, sometime more depending how many of us are online xD have had 12-13 ppl and 2 carracks before.

[north oyster]

Ok, that's great news if that's the case. Hangers have never worked much for my character in the game.

[still valley]

w0t bug are you referring to m8

About to cash out on a prozzy in-game

[crimson mesa]

Enjoyed ROC mining on Magda over the weekend. Deposits occur less often than on Daymar, but I mostly found Hadanite when I came across one. Good vistas, and not a crowded moon.

[subtle cradle]

w0t bug are you referring to m8
@still valley there is no refinery bug that hinders you from using a prospector.
However refined materials has an incredibly low demand when you try to sell it. You might end up having to wait hours to sell your commodities.
You should have a dedicated cargo ship that you don't mind leaving at a city with your refined ore in, so you can do other stuff in other ships while waiting for the shops to refresh to be able to sell the rest of your ores.

[still valley]

Thanks for the info. Is server hopping an appropriate workaround for denied sales like in this scenario?

[subtle cradle]

It haven't worked for me. I'm pretty sure the shop inventories are the same across servers

[north oyster]

Like icache me has said, the issue is Post Refinery. With the infinite cargo, the TDD's are being jammed. One refinery job from a Prospector (about 26 SCU refined) took two days to sell. You can fun from TDD to TDD or server hop but it takes time. Sometimes early AM (EST) works pretty good. This is destroying regular trade also. It took me two days to sell a Carrack of Diamonds.

[pastel umbra]

I just managed to sell 500k worth of quant in one go which surprised me

[crimson mesa]

looks like we need an ebay like app added to the mobiglass. Just list your refined ore and it sells yourself. instead of spending time flying place to place to sell, you just pay shipping. 😄

[north oyster]

That's awesome, I hope it continues to go well for you

[torpid palm]

You know what, I like that idea. Especially if I get to ship it in my herc 😉

Might be able to work something like that into the beacon system as well

Contract based deliveries of large quantities of resources (Shipping) to say, aid shelters or whatever would be great right about now. They could lower the reward from traditional trading to a fixed amount per km, but ensure minimal risk (I.e, you won't lose 1+ Mil to a 30K).

[woeful forge]

Looking to run with someone in their mole. Just 2 people so we can get larger profits for us 2.

[sage kettle]

is it possible to transfer cargo from one players ship to another

[pallid temple]

No

[north oyster]

I think it involves the cargo grid system. That's why pirates can't make a living atm

[sage kettle]

Ok just wanted ask cause we have a prospector and a cat and the pros dose not have alot of cargo

[north oyster]

not sure how that works even if there was no grid issue. The Prospector only has storage for raw ore gathered. The CAT can move cargo (or box deliveries, but that would be silly).

One day, aka "soon(tm)" they bags will be able to come off the Prospector

[rich goblet]

Any other good place than Arial to mine Hadanite with the ROC ?

[manic whale]

What do you mean "than Arial" ? Best is Aberdeen, not Arial 😄

[rich goblet]

haha, figures 😬 😆

[analog blade]

Arial, Aberdeen and Daymar are all places i have found many rocks to mine of Hadanite

Just be careful of people looking to rob you. the rear of the ROC can be opened and cargo removed.

[north oyster]

Aberdeen is my favorite place to mine. Last time I hit two large nodes that allowed me to fill the ROC (203K aUEC) with just two stops. Grant it, this isn't normal.

PRO TIP: to have a place that is always daylight, QT to OM-1 and drop to the surface (approx 140k) only takes about 3 minutes. This is the north pole orbital marker and it is always "eternal sun" here

[olive wagon]

Does anybody know why my refined Quantainium doesn't show up in my Star Runner when I send it to it

[ebon moon]

How is this game gonna let you load up a shitload of cargo on the ship located where you're at and it be "Unknown" and unretrievable?

[mint cloud]

is there a known issue where your quant cargo can become "illegal"

[silk delta]

Boxes of refined stuff not physically showing up as boxes in your destination ship is a known problem. Your cargo is still there as far as code is concerned

[olive wagon]

Ya I know that's a big but if I go to a trade in Hurston TDD nothing pops up from my star runner

[thorny copper]

it can happen when you trade like normal too

sometimes it shows sometimes it doesn't

[north oyster]

you will also find when you go to market with the refined ore that the selling of the product might be a challenge. There is a mess with Trade and refined ore in this patch

[olive wagon]

Ok

I was able to do it once but it started to mess up, was just seeing if it's been known

[north oyster]

it's a nightmare atm for this patch. Trade is almost totally dead though there are small things you can do. I did a diamond run in a Carrack from T&M on Celin to TDD at Area18. First time the diamonds sold but second time took about two days.

Gases use to sell without a hitch, but that has changed also

[hollow sedge]

we can't sell anything because people are doing cargo duplication glitches that makes the supply of most commodities ridiculously high

you can't do mining either because the refineries are ultra overfilled

[north oyster]

Selling raw to the refinery is about the only working aspect

[ember star]

Scrap does ok but it’s almost not worth the walk through Lorville to buy it.

[plucky inlet]

mining heads. where dose hadnte most likely spawn around

im on aberdeen

is it around mountains? flat areas?

[north oyster]

hadanite spawns randomly. Go slow as you ping at full power. It will only pop up when you are within 2k of the node. Also, often, the large ore deposits hide the small ore, so be sure to get near a large ore and ping again to see if you missed any deposits.

[plucky inlet]

👍

is it more common at night or day?

[north oyster]

I don't think the night or day cycle has any bearing. One trick to always be in the day and also where you'll never be griefed by aspiring pirates is to drop down to the planet from an orbital marker. If you QT to OM-1 and drop to the surface, it will always be daylight there because it is at the north pole of the planet.

The OM for moons are only about 140k above the surface

Takes about 3 minutes (roughly) to reach the surface

[hollow sedge]

is there any profitable trading right now? all im getting is understocked whenever i arrive

[ember star]

Yes, only for a select few routes. What ship do you have?

[hollow sedge]

MSR but if its that profitable i would buy a caterpillar

[ember star]

You'll only get about 20k per run with an MSR and this route

From Crusator to Hurston

[hollow sedge]

what about with a caterpillar

[ember star]

100k ish

[hollow sedge]

yessir im buying one

can u send me route details

[ember star]

DMing you now.

[hollow sedge]

ty

[subtle cradle]

I find it really hard to believe the reward matches the risk when it comes to trading atm. Investing 1.4 mil to make 350k seems too risky.

[hoary monolith]

his is why most people are either bounty hunting or waiting for 3.13

[manic whale]

Was the profit larger in the past?

[north oyster]

A 100k profit run in a CAT? I can run diamonds for 35k with not too much upfront (about 267k upfront last run) in a Carrack. Sometimes it sells on one try, sometimes it takes half a day. The infinite cargo bug from the refinery is hosing the TDDs and trade overall.

Scrap is a good run also for large ships

[north oyster]

Last year (before I was messing around with Trade) they would have CATs lined up at outpost on Arial filling them with Laranite as fast as they could click the "Buy" on the TDD. Short run, massive profit. I was running a MAX from Daymar to PO making 60K+ per run in 8 minutes.

[manic whale]

I´m from "laranite era". Thought it was even better before, when I saw a "1.4 mil to make 350k seems too risky." comment

[hollow sedge]

With cargo runs, there's always risk of losing a lot.
That's why Mining, and Combat gets much more love.

If only the mining locations weren't so boring...

[ember star]

Youre right it's a little less than 100k, it's 77k.

[hollow sedge]

I can make a 100k profit, from a single Hadanite cluster in ROC, with zero investment to lose.

[real narwhal]

U roc mine?

[hollow sedge]

Yeah, when i have the time, and motivation to do it.
But lately i just hunt skimmers.

[real narwhal]

I'll b on later, I'd any roc miners wanna man my mole laser instead I'll pay 150k/run

[hollow sedge]

The dumbest, and most impractical mining run ever.

[real narwhal]

U need a fleet of those on there

[hollow sedge]

But then it could actually make some sense.

[real narwhal]

Would b cool to see a fleet of 10 rock's all roll out at once

[hollow sedge]

The point here was, to make it as dumb as humanly possible.
So i took a 890j, and used it solo for scanning minables for ROC.

In Atmosphere.

[real narwhal]

Nice

[hollow sedge]

I made that experiment, and it was dumb as hell.
So you don't have to try it yourself.

[real narwhal]

I went touring microtech surface with reclaimer last week with a newbro to show them around. Was....... interesting

Not recommended

[hollow sedge]

The fact that you kept it in the air, is already an achievement.

[real narwhal]

Straight up/ down only then hover and go forward holding up thrust

Was stupid Haha
Didn't even grab screenshots

Even dumber

[hollow sedge]

Then again, still more flight capable than Javelin.

Seen some idiots with a stolen Jav, going into atmosphere on Microtech.

[real narwhal]

Ooff

[hollow sedge]

Let's just say, the ship became a nice addition to Microtech's mountains.

[real narwhal]

I can't wait to see someone tank a hull-e into atmo and smash hurston etc..

Just suicide it into lorville

[hollow sedge]

Hopefully, we won't have to wait "Too long" for the Hull series to be added, since docking is pretty much done.

[real narwhal]

Imma get a Hull-E for sure

And the merchantman

[hollow sedge]

Merch does look interesting, as a multipurpose.
And as for Hull... guess i'll pass on that one.

The Hull series is just a one trick pony.

[real narwhal]

I wanna b a space trucker/ trader so it's perfect

Just can't imagine the price... im already saving

[hollow sedge]

First the trucking needs to work properly.
And this will still take a while.

[real narwhal]

27mil in game rn from mining/ trading (3.11 rip)

[hollow sedge]

I'm playing so rarely, i've only managed to earn for a Cutty Red ingame.
Aside from few useless ground vehicles...

[real narwhal]

I got a ton of ships from trading from before 3.12

Drugs and a Caterpillar made some serious bank

[hollow sedge]

Welp, i was starting with hand mining, and box deliveries, when it was still a single box.

Then i got the ROC.

[real narwhal]

Multi box with the replicants is nice

Kore

Or 350r

But the Kores ramp is nice

And cheap to upgrade it

[hollow sedge]

I want the 350r, but the price is a bit too high.

So for now, i need to settle with 325a.

[real narwhal]

It's nice, the m50 is a little better imo but the cabin on the 350r is cool, and u can easy transport ppl quick

I've space taxi with it sometimes

[hollow sedge]

btw, i've heard that a new ROC is on the way, and that it'll be super pointless.

Closed canopy, to protect you from heat/cold.
But you have to switch between two canopies, for driving, and mining.
Extra storage for mined material.
But you still have the same, single lazer.
Extra pair of wheels, for better handling.
But now it's too big for most ships to transport it.

[severe peak]

Most I've gotten up to is about 500k from trading. Sure I've got a Cat, but also a whole mess of 30ks

[shy chasm]

Does anyone have recommendations for a good loadout for the prospector to mine quant?

@arctic moon what you recommend?

[arctic moon]

ohh, i don't do prospector mining myself, so i can't remember the names of the miningheads

[shy chasm]

Oh

[arctic moon]

im just aware that helix isnt viable anymore, there are other lasers which will make you able to mine bigger rocks

i think lancet is the one you want

@shy chasm

[shy chasm]

Ok

Which one?

There are multiple of them

[arctic moon]

lancet mh1

[shy chasm]

Got it

[arctic moon]

i think its made for taking down bigger rocks, but i would maybe listen to someone who got first hand experience

i may be wrong

[shy chasm]

Ah there is one over at mic l1

I will grab one later today

[teal wing]

If you're using the Lancet, I would probably take Surge, Stampede and Brandt as consumables

[shy chasm]

Ok

[river wing]

I have a question if i am in a party with a friend can he tranfer refined ore to my cargo ?

[shy chasm]

Not yet i think

[arctic moon]

i dont think thats possible

which ahs been a struggle to people only owning a mining ship

[river wing]

Damn ok 😦 he brought a mole i wanted to by a constellation andromeda

[shy chasm]

Mole is still good tho

Make big money

[river wing]

You can cargo refined with a mole ?

[arctic moon]

well, with the mole, you guys could kinda earn a caterpillar fast ingame

[river wing]

How much it cost ingame ?

[shy chasm]

I have a mole but i have a issue with it

[arctic moon]

4,5mill

[river wing]

Thx

[arctic moon]

thne you have 560 scu, like 6 times the andromeda

[shy chasm]

The mininglazers are bugged as in they can randomly stop working

This a common issue?

The prospector is fine tho

[teal wing]

Yeah, quite often when I use my Helix II it'll stop being able to charge things

[shy chasm]

Yeh its wierd

[teal wing]

But if I use a Surge on the bugged laser, it'll fill the bar to optimum and then stay there

[river wing]

Uh we dont have this problem with our mole the only problem we have is laser and tractor beam inverted like one of my guy when he mine it the tractor beam but still mine and when he beam it the mining laser lol pretty made us jump screaming first time

[shy chasm]

Yeh I probably keep it to my prospector atm

I hope cig fixes it

[arctic moon]

could maybe consider to ROC mine, together with your friend to save together for a caterpillar etc

[shy chasm]

One more question about quant

[arctic moon]

i think its better cash than mining without refining

[shy chasm]

Does the timer decrease the more quant you have onboard?

Or does it stay 15 minutes

[arctic moon]

no, but you only got 15 min

[shy chasm]

Ah ok

[arctic moon]

15 min from the first quant is extracted i assume ?

[shy chasm]

I got like 30k for only 6 scu of quant yesterday

That stuff is amazing

[teal wing]

Yeah, which is why you want to crack down all the quant-bearing rocks before collecting them

[shy chasm]

Yeh

You want to do it smart

Or else your ship go kaboom

I wonder what 30 scu of quant is worth

Close to a million?

[teal wing]

I can give you a rough estimate in a sec

[shy chasm]

I do know where to find quant

Aaron halo and Hur l3 have tons of it

[arctic moon]

you said 6 scu was 30k? 30scu would be 150k then ?

[rustic shoal]

i can't wait for Aaron Halo to have its gateways and such

[arctic moon]

but that can't be right

for i know the number is higher lol

[shy chasm]

Best way is use the refinery at arc l1 and mine in the aaron halo

[teal wing]

264k based off the optimum sell price, so it should be roughly around there

[shy chasm]

I always had successful quant runs

[teal wing]

I refine at MIC L1 because them I'm close to both the halo and planetside quant mining for some variety

[shy chasm]

To get to the aaron halo go from Arccorp to Hurston and stop your qt at around 13.500.000

Then you right in it

Happy mining

[hollow sedge]

I just hope the new caves will provide some juicy minable deposits for ROC.

Cause pinging the surface for hours can be quite boring.

[flint oracle]

These new caves are definitely great opportunities for mining and combat.

[north oyster]

Sales at the TDD after refinery will be sporadic at best. One time you may sell, the next time you may be there hours or having to hop servers hoping to sell. This will be the case until the patch 3.13 is deployed. I hope Trade is given some love in 3.13.x when the Hercules C2 arrives. I'd hate to have that big ship and nothing to do but haul ballistas or tonks

[lilac hedge]

Can't wait for greycat tractor beam and cargo refactor ❤️

[minor swallow]

Just a question, I need to drop off a package, but when i am in front off this machine it says "Error"

[tame elbow]

pretty known bug

nothing you can do about it

contract can't be completed

[north oyster]

Like Fruitless said, deliveries have some issues; However! The next patch will introduce a whole new series of deliveries and probably a earnings bump

[subtle cradle]

Is the Caterpillar gonna have a functioning tractor beam in 3.13? And what is it even used for?

[tame elbow]

Tractor beams are used for grabing items and bringing them on board. 3.13 does not have any tech for ship tractor beams

[vestal rose]

I've got 600k worth of e'tam and widow in my freelancer, and just found out i can sell that stuff like 5 per every few minutes. I have over 5000 units combined. How fucked am I?

[manic whale]

you are F-word "clicking every 3rd minute for 5hours" like 😄

[alpine rune]

Can you move your roc inv to your ship?

[vestal rose]

yes, if you open it and select to store all in a cargo box