industrial-professions

[thorny linden]

Or... when I have cargo. Or am stringing together multiple delivery missions, and am about to start turning them in. But never when I'm stuck on the trains in loreville or new babbage, it seems to enjoy me just wasting away on those trains. Servers won't disconnect for anything then.

[covert beacon]

Why cant i refuel anywhere?

I use the services but nothing happens

[crimson mantle]

Try:

• Keep your engines ON
• Wait for a while, refuelling is not instant
• Do not move during the process
• Be correctly landed (auto land with "N")

[covert beacon]

I have all but the engines on, gonna try

Nope

[crimson mantle]

Maybe you want to contribute to the issue then: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community/issue-council/star-citizen-alpha-3?search=refuel&time=this_month

[covert beacon]

Im gonna suicide and claim the ship i guess

It will fix hunger too eheh

Ive come to port olisar and it worked

It seems to be station related

In loreville and cru l1 didnt work

[covert beacon]

I wish they fixed the cargo not showing up in the ships, it ruins my immurshion

[covert beacon]

Erm i cant sell my quantanium in microtech

Like the shop inventory is full or something

Is this a thing?

[fickle zephyr]

yes

[covert beacon]

How do you sell then?

[fickle zephyr]

they ship off a set amount every minute to wherever it goes (factories?) and the terminal updates about every 15min or so

full stock everywhere have been a thing for quite a while now

a18 ships of much more every minute than lorville and NB

of quantanium

i guess you have refined the quant?

[covert beacon]

Yep

So i just keep trying until its possible?

[fickle zephyr]

sc-trade.tools have the numbers on how much a shop that buys empties every minute and how much a shop that sells restocks every minute

[covert beacon]

Or is there a way to see the stock of the cities

[fickle zephyr]

not that o know of

[covert beacon]

Kinda sucks, but at the same time its good to see some dynamic economy

[fickle zephyr]

if its full stock it should show the price of the commodity in red

if the commodity just dont show up you are att the wrong terminal

like at planetary services instead of TDD

[covert beacon]

It shows up, but it says a error msg about inventory

[fickle zephyr]

ok

if you have wall street kind of screens above you, its the correct place

[covert beacon]

Yeah i sold before here

[fickle zephyr]

its usually red text but if its desynced it can be an error message instead

a18 empties quantanium 10 times or so faster than the other trade hubs

other stuff NB is fastest on, and other stuff lorville, check sc-trade.tools

is it alot like a full cat?

if its just a freelancer or MSR or something you will get it sold in an update or 3

a tick or whatever its called

its this damn exploits fault that makes ROC and bountys more profitable

and makes trading close to impossible

[proud hearth]

So... not sure if I did something wrong, but I wanted to see what the actual take-home creds difference was between selling my prospector's load raw vs refining it.

The quote I got for selling raw (mix of agricium and bexalite) was about 44675. After refining, the same load sold for a total of 72947, which after the refining job cost of 13,700 means I only made 59247 creds in profit

and that's not factoring in travel time and costs to sell the refined goods... is it really worth it to refine versus selling raw?

I could see it adding up in bigger quantities, but for a solo player with a prospector it seems like a big timesink for little gain

[strange burrow]

@proud hearth which method did you use for refining?

If you use Dynx Solvation(sp?) it will cost the least amount of money and have the smallest losses. It will be the longest but that doesn't matter if you mine regularly

[proud hearth]

I forget the name, but it was high speed, moderate yield, high cost, because I didn't want to wait several hours or days to get the refined ore. I'm sure that cut into the profits a bunch...

I suppose to be fair I should try the Dynx Solvation method on a load of ore and wait the 1-2 days for the refine to get a better sense of the potential profits

Another question - I'm using the free-fly prospector with a lancet mining head and struggling to crack rocks if they have a decent percentage of good ore

so far the best rock that I was barely able to crack was like 20% agricium, is there something I'm missing that I should be doing?

[strange burrow]

The size of the rock is what matters most, not necessarily the % of good stuff.

If you are planetside with the prospector you can't really go above 5200 in size. Be sure to be at 30m from the rock to have the optimal power efficiency.

[sullen minnow]

is hand mining good or annoying

[pallid lake]

annoying but if you so just long enough to rent or buy a better method

[sullen minnow]

i would rather buy

[fervent sedge]

Does cargo make no money?

[pallid lake]

so renting is good helps you get to that buy money faster

you can rent a cutlass and a roc for 1 day for less than 50k and on the first trip out alone make 200k atleast

[crimson mantle]

Unfortunately, cargo is usually pretty rough during free-fly events due to all the new players trying it out.
You can explore your options here: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes
*Keeping in mind that those are best case scenarios

[fervent sedge]

Just curious is its worth buying a caterpillar

I have a cutlass and a vanguard

[pallid lake]

I am buying one for mining, not sure if its worth it but thats my current plan

[crimson mantle]

Caterpillar is 4.68M and will be a good money maker in the final game, no doubt about it. Other good cargo ships are coming: the Hercules Starlifter C2 will be available 3.13.X (barring any delays) and should haul a bit more than the Caterpillar.

[fervent sedge]

I want the Hercules m2

I like bounty hunting and cargo.

Seems like a good ship for it. But I got no clue on when they will release it. Nor how expensive

That would be my perfect ship for my style

[crimson mantle]

The M2 is scheduled at the same time as the C2, in 3.13.X.
It is better defended than the cargo version, but I personally doubt it'll be much of a combat ship on it's own.

The other Crusader ship we have right now, the MSR, is capable of defending itself, but is by no mean a gunship.

[fervent sedge]

The m2 and a2 can do light bounty hunting and defend

Correct?

C2 is pure cargo

[crimson mantle]

They will most likely be capable vessels, but the focus is to deploy ground vehicles in combat zones.

Honestly though, since they are not released, this is all speculation.

My personal point of comparison is the Starfarer: can you shoot down ships in it? Oh yes. Should it be the thing you do it in? Debatable.

[fervent sedge]

I guess we will see

[crimson mantle]

We will 🙂

[fervent sedge]

I just want a large easy to run with 1 person ship

That has a ton of room. Cargo and can do a little combat

[crimson mantle]

It's fun to imagine all those things, but in the end we all have to wait to actually fly them to see how they fare.

[fervent sedge]

I almost bought the carrack

Just cause I don’t want to wait anymore lol

[crimson mantle]

Star Citizen is all about patience, that's for sure!

[fervent sedge]

Yep

What’s your guess on the prices for Hercules

@crimson mantle

[crimson mantle]

In aUEC?

Hard to say: they price based on components. So probably similar to the Caterpillar/Starfarer.

[silk delta]

That guy who lost a huge load of refined ore the other day... I was wondering, what is in it for folks who shoot down mining/cargo ships? Can they actually collect their loot?

[fallow glacier]

They can't

Just people with nothing better to do

[daring raft]

How much cargo does a prospector hold vs a roc?

[smoky flax]

Think the prospector was 32 SCU

Hey guys, having problems selling a haul of Metals / Minerals. On New Babbage at the Trade center and the stuff I have in inventory is gryed out when I select the ship. Does that mean they don't buy these mats?

[fallow glacier]

Are you sure you're at TDD

[smoky flax]

Yeah

Between commons entance and Omega right?

[fallow glacier]

It'll be a section of the area named TDD
Should be left of omega iirc

[smoky flax]

Yeah. That's where I was

[fallow glacier]

Ah it should normally work

[smoky flax]

People on the server are suggesting that perhaps they bought a heap of stuff and have been flooded and don't want what I hame

have**

[fallow glacier]

If that's the case
It usually refreshes every 10ish minutes, and you'll be able to sell some scu

[smoky flax]

Ok thanks

[fallow glacier]

Good luck

[bronze sinew]

Wait, cant you sell ore and raw minerals only to the refineries?

[fickle zephyr]

yeah, is it refined?

[magic shard]

Guys, do you think two ROCs would fit into a Freelancer? They should, right?

And one more question - if I store a ship with a ROC inside before I log out, will it persist until my next login, or do I have to pick it up again?

[fickle zephyr]

try

[magic shard]

Well... ok 🙂

[fickle zephyr]

it will persist

but it can freak out

or so i heard

havent ROC mined since 3.11

[magic shard]

Hmpf. Two rocs inside = trilce chance of random bug, right? 🙂

[fickle zephyr]

its gonna be tight but i have speculated myself that it should fit 2

[magic shard]

I have just started, I found ROC mining to be a good entry level job. Will try ship mining later, but I think there is more overhead - consumables and all the stuff.

[fickle zephyr]

if you put alot of effort in to tweaking your mining route ship mining can be really damn profitable

but ROC isnt far behinf and until you have figured out the "perfect route" for you ROC will probably be more profitable in this patch

[magic shard]

That's what I thought, thanks for the information.

[fickle zephyr]

why do you want to use 2 ROCs though

party mining?

if you are thinking of getting more cargo space the ROC cargo can be put into a box, or into your pembroke/novikov/rucksack

[magic shard]

Yeah, we are starting playing with my son.

[fickle zephyr]

the box spawns like magic when you request it

ah ok

[fallow glacier]

I once logged out with an roc in my freelancer bed at some outpost
When I logged back in 1 day later . Freelancer was fine but roc blew up like a grenade lol

Better watch out

[magic shard]

I think it is generally not advised to log out in beds at planets.

Either way if the ROC blows up it should be problem that is quite distant for me quietly standing and waiting for the elevator >D

[fickle zephyr]

another thing to watch out for with ROC is pirates

[idle linden]

Is there a way to crack quantanium with a prospector?
No luck using a helix 1 mining head.

[fickle zephyr]

yes

hmm

what is it called let me check

lancet

the modifiers on it is great dont be scared of the low power

[idle linden]

Will give it a go next time. Wasnt sure if the modifers made up for that much power loss.

[fickle zephyr]

and surge consumable popped in the beginning right when you start the laser

it will take you up just a little bit below green right away

you should be able to take quant rocks up to a bit over 5000 mass

[idle linden]

Awesome, thanks

[hollow sedge]

@idle linden give this a read, in case you wanted to mine larger deposits with the same mining head, you can crack 8k mass rocks with lancet using this https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/kgzdlq/struggling_mining_solo_with_a_helix_mining_head/

[covert beacon]

@fickle zephyr where do you buy surge consumable?

[fallow glacier]

Hur l1 and PO

[covert beacon]

nice ty

[north oyster]

The consumables at the Refinery stores are about half price than at other locations

I still use the Helix with LifeLine, Stampede and Surge. Not a single rock that I can't crack now because of that combo. The lancet gives a nice zone bonus, but I guess I'm still more comfortable with the Helix at this time.

[covert beacon]

I couldnt find the surge at the refineries

[north oyster]

It is at HUR-L1. I have no idea why the create the artificial limits with supplies like that.

I found this video by SMB to be a really good review. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHcXo2Wqi58&ab_channel=SuperMacBrother

I think this the one I'm thinking about, I'll check. His pricing is off

[covert beacon]

its cool to have limited stocks

its not cool you cant get a list where to buy them in game

but I guess that will come

[north oyster]

The main thing I believe we need to make it more "realistic" and functional is the ability to service consumables (and even laser head) in the field. We could do it a few patches back but that got turned off.

[pale gate]

is the prospector worth it?

and isnt it around 55k to rent?

[crimson mantle]

You can try it for free right now! Just activate it on your account: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/February-Free-Fly

[pale gate]

oh thanks!

i can still use it if i bought the game rtight?

[crimson mantle]

Oh yes, no problem at all

[pale gate]

awesomer

i bought it a few weeks ago and just started playing

[lime ledge]

is it not possible to take a bit at a time from refineries?

[pallid temple]

No

[lime ledge]

well damn

any suggestions as to how i can work around this?

[pulsar bloom]

you have anything bigger

[lime ledge]

nope

is there anything i can rent that could hold that much?

[pale gate]

not sure. can u be offline during the refine portion or do u have to be online?

[hexed breach]

best bet is freelancer max

[pliant matrix]

connie can take it too

[lime ledge]

yeah i should have enough to grab one of those

[storm dove]

So... Cutlass, Black Red or Blue for ROC mining?

[hexed breach]

cutty black

[pliant matrix]

black. cheaper and more space. red if you want to respown and blu can't take it iirc

[storm dove]

hmm... ok

and what are recommended upgrades for Black?

[hexed breach]

for transporting nothing really

[storm dove]

rgr

thanks for replies 🙂

[pliant matrix]

maybe qt drive but not a necessity

[storm dove]

Lorville sells Black, right?

[hexed breach]

yes

[lime moss]

I would look at the shield for the black otherwise its pretty solid out of the gate.

[north oyster]

Something like an FR-76

[pliant matrix]

If he's only transporting Roc or trading stock cutty is enough. If you're carrying something it's not recommend to engage a fight and run away is a safer option

[north oyster]

concur

If doing PvE, then match the weapons and upgrade shield

[pliant matrix]

Ofc yeah

It's also always better to be prepared just in case

[north oyster]

I haven't taken my ROC out in a couple of patches, I'll need to do that this evening

[pliant matrix]

Same. Since bounties are money maker I didn't went into mining. Also it was pretty hard with server lags. Dunno how it is now

[north oyster]

Trying to fill a CAT with refined ore. At about 12 Prospector loads. Figure I need about 20

[pliant matrix]

That's risky af I'd say 😂 a 30k or a pirate and you just have to cry

[north oyster]

Concur

[pliant matrix]

Last time I did trading I lost around 1mil in my cat. Learned my lesson

Even tho now 1mil isn't much to get with roc or bounties

[north oyster]

As long as I can sell,I think all else will be within acceptable risk

I'll probably do one Prospector run and then break out the ROC

[pliant matrix]

Good luck then 😉

[north oyster]

Likewise

[covert beacon]

Can you always sell quantanium in arccorp?

Or can be out of stock too

[hollow sedge]

can be out of stock but refresh seems better imo, than loreville or nb

my experience is i can sell 1 - 2 mil every 15 min or so

at area18

unless someone is also selling a bulk on that same server

[north oyster]

Selling at TDD isn't a problem unless someone is running the refinery exploit, then it craps the whole server

[fickle zephyr]

it craps all the servers

the shops are connected over all servers

unless they recently changed that

[north oyster]

I wonder because I don't think they have a handle on the exploit yet

[fickle zephyr]

yeah no my cat accidentaly duped the cargo a few days ago

so its still there

you can get it just from normal gameplay

and im not gonna say how

[magic shard]

Guys, what do you do when you want do some mining at Aberdeen but the side of planet that has all the bases is in the dark? Do you fly around the planet manually? Is there any sort of night vision?

[ruby moth]

@magic shard Personally i don't mine planetside in the dark.. too many bad endings to it

but, it can be done. if you fly low and slow, and keep your lights on

but no, there is no night vision (yet?)

[main saddle]

wow, so I had a 30k the other day just as I was taking off with my ROC after mining some Hadanite. I noticed, however, at a trading terminal that I still had the cargo. I went back to the moon I had been on and wasn't able to sell, but I was able to retrieve the ROC and then SCU'd the cargo and sold it. 'twas a nice surprise

just now lol

apparently the ROC got stored on the moon when I 30k'd; but I wasn't anywhere near the outpost

[magic shard]

Yeah, I know - but what do you do then? Fly to another moon? Fly to the other side of planet manually?

BTW freelancer does fit two ROCs quite alright.

[main saddle]

I've been going to the poles... perpetual dusk or dawn

OM-1 or OM-2; then fly down

I'd seen someone else suggest it several days ago

[magic shard]

Ok, thanks!

[main saddle]

Light at OM-2 on Ariel

[covert beacon]

Is there another ship with cargo of 30scu beside the cutlass?

[manic whale]

yes

[fickle zephyr]

you mean at least 30scu because cutlass black have 46

freelancer have 66 i think and freelancer max has 120 if you want it in the same size category

freelancer MIS and DUR have 36

[ornate rock]

nomad has 24 if "around 30" is what you want

[fickle zephyr]

no freelancer DUR have 28 i was wrong

https://starcitizen.tools/Cargo

there is a list further down the page

and you can sort it after cargo size

not everything is flyable yet

[fast patio]

Been mining with my ROC and had some decent returns, but wanted to try out Quant mining/refining in the Prospector for a change. Is it worth it to rent for a few days if you can't apply any mining upgrades?

[fickle zephyr]

isnt prospector included in the freefly?

[fast patio]

Is it? How do I retrieve it? Doesn't show in my ship inventory.

[fickle zephyr]

you need to activate it on their web somewhere

link a couple of posts up in #sc-news

[hollow sedge]

Is there a way to sell cargo crates of minerals?

[modern hedge]

did they remove flight path at lorvile?

[mortal linden]

Yes

[modern hedge]

fantastic

[thorny copper]

splines are gone everywhere

[ornate rock]

I think the community never hated something so universally

[modern hedge]

lol

i never knew they got added so i got shot down like 5 times

[thorny copper]

it wouldn't have been so bad if the auto-pilot didn't outright fucking blow your ship up 90% of the time you strayed a toes worth outside them

[ornate rock]

I am glad it was so terrible, cause there were some people who thought it would be good if it worked properly

we best never mention it again so CIG forgets about it too

[thorny copper]

fair point lol

[north oyster]

Find an OM that is on the sun side and do a drop from there. If you are in a prospector, be sure to do a flip and get ready to start the burn as soon as the atmosphere grid pops up on your HUD. I generally keep my speed right at 1000 m/s on approach to the surface to allow time to stop. When at 1200 m/s, you will be cutting it real close or you are going to crater.

If you drop from OM-1 it is at the "north pole" axis and is always twilight and never dark. Also the OM for Aberdeen are only about 140k above the surface. Unlike places like MicroTech where they are over 450k above the planet.

[north oyster]

Since they now allow attaching consumables to the rental laser head, you might have a chance to crack some Quantainium. I would maybe encourage you to get real good at Taranite, Bexilite, Laranite and agricium first before jumping straight to Quan.

Since you can handle the ROC just fine, it is pretty much the same but the small differences can be disaster. Be sure to put all your shields forward.

[fast patio]

Thank you for the info. With a full ROC bringing in over $200k, I wanted to see if it was feasible to do a few Quant runs faster to refine it and possibly net more for the effort. Just experimenting.

[north oyster]

that's great idea. I am stacking refinery jobs (using the slow method that is cheap with only 5% lost). I take my time doing that while ROC brings immediate cash. Changing up between the two keeps things fresher

I figure when I take a full CAT to the TDD it will be in the millions

[fast patio]

Just pray to the 30k gods before that trip 😂

[north oyster]

that is always the risk. Like night I found a spot of 11 hadanite and then another of 9 hadanite that gave me 799 in the ROC. I had already convinced myself the game was going to crash before I got it sold, so when I was able to sell I was totally shocked.

[proud hearth]

was teaching a friend of mine who just started the basics of mining using the free fly prospectors out around HUR L1

first rock we found was 20% borase, which is nice

I would like to try ROC mining some time, have done hand-mining during a short stay in prison and ship-mining with the free fly prospector

I'm saving up creds for a cutty black at the moment, but after that I'll probably pick up a ROC

[north oyster]

ROC is super cheap to rent (4200 aUEC at the refinery store) and very inexpensive to buy ingame (172K aUEC). The cutlass does a good job transporting it. The Freefly has a Freelancer that can also be used

The mining game loop with the Prospector is good coin but now takes a lot longer.

I'm stacking refinery jobs until I can fill a CAT.

[proud hearth]

I'm spoiled by the instant credits gratification of bounties, so waiting 12+ hours for refinery jobs is a big ask lol

[wind summit]

With zero risk of any time loss from bounties it’s hard to justify any trading or mining.

[hollow sedge]

@proud hearth why not take them to hur l3 and mine quant refine at cru l1?

can find 30% and above pretty easy, that will fill up a single prospector

[proud hearth]

he just wanted to try it out so to save time I went to a system with both rocks and refinery

[hollow sedge]

I thought the idea that you could explode would make it more exciting 🙂

[proud hearth]

lol as slow as newbies move with docking and such we wouldn't make it in 15 minutes

that'll be next time

[hollow sedge]

I guessssssss

[north oyster]

each patch changes the meta of income. Glad to see bounties getting a deserved bump. I would think with the Hercules coming online that trade might get some love from CIG. We shall see

[fervent sedge]

any decent trade routes

[wind summit]

I hope so. I got the C2 and A2. Trading is my jam and I miss it dearly.

[north oyster]

there are a number of good routes and products that can be moved. Even mid-size trade routes you can do. At this time you can make more and have less risk from doing PvE bounties. That said, for a nice change up, running trade helps you discover more of the 'verse and it's areas

[rare dirge]

anybody need help mining things like quantanium? willing to help u

for work, cuz im broke lol

[crimson mantle]

Right now there are some issues with shops' inventory levels, but feel free to check out the best trade routes for you here: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes 😄

[fervent sedge]

I just figured out how to use it. It’s pretty frustrating to figure out. Then simple

[bronze sinew]

Not looking forward to my first full c2 being 30k'd

[gloomy sierra]

Hey lads, any point in trading right now? I have a cat and 1 Mil AUEC to start with, I’m getting tired of going bounty hunting. I had a look on sc trade tools but I’m not sure if it’s accurate> last time i tried something similar i got stuck with cargo I couldn’t sell

[ornate rock]

trading seems to be in a pretty bad spot right now, maybe give ROC mining a shot

[gloomy sierra]

Thank you baarn 🙂

[ornate rock]

not sure how the non-mineral commodities are doing

but the mineral market is completely buggered up with duped resources from the refinery bug.

[gloomy sierra]

I don’t really have much experience in mining, I’m not sure i can make more than bounty tho. With a vanguard i can solo HH missions. I was looking for a way to increase the uec/min

Maybe I’ll see if any of my friends can teach me about mining and give the roc a try, thank you very much!

[ornate rock]

the ROC probably can't compete with missions, but it's just something else to do and the pay is not terrible either

definitely good enough if you're just looking for a change of pace

[sly copper]

Went to a terminal to purchase some SLAM (for research purposes) and I could only get 1scu. Is this a common thing?

[ornate rock]

it's not a high volume commodity, you're not supposed to fill a cat with the stuff.

[sly copper]

Idk with mining, its a bit of a slower pace but higher rewards if you mine mainly quantanium. Could easily make a mil in a day depending how much you put in

[sly copper]

Wasn't intending on filling any ship, just enough to make a decent profit. I was thinking the terminal had just been cleaned out but after waiting for a while still no change

[ornate rock]

vice trading has been pretty meh since quite a while afaik, with supply often much higher than demand etc

but those high margin trades all tend to have pretty low volume

to make them worth it in a Titan, but not in a Freelancer etc

no idea about 3.12 in specific tho, but I doubt CIG changed much

[sly copper]

Thanks Baarn

[mortal linden]

For good vice routes we probably need to wait for Pyro. I think adding some Pyro->Stanton narco routes will be fun for players on both sides of the law.

And will make actual use case for MSR. 👀

[bronze sinew]

Is there even a single commodity that you can fill a caterpillar up with and sell it in one go? (Excl. Waste)

[north oyster]

Diamond runs in a CAT give you about 18% margin. It should work ok. You can pickup diamonds at T&M on Celin and then sell at any TDD (A18, NB or Hur)

[north oyster]

yes, there is actually a number of commodities.

[fervent sedge]

This accurate

?

[north oyster]

no, laranite will be in short supply

you won't be able to pull a full load (normally)

Other commodities with good margin are worth looking at

[fervent sedge]

What about Slam cargo

[north oyster]

it will take forever to sell

vice items best done in small quanties

[fervent sedge]

So what’s best cargo for a cat?

[north oyster]

diamonds, etc

talked to one guy this morning who ran diamonds for hours and earned a fair amount. Of course there is always the dreaded risk

[fervent sedge]

I was blown up 4 times in a row at port olisar last night

They supposedly tried to board me. But kept slamming ships into me at the landing pads

[north oyster]

Try this, go to T&M on Cellin. Buy diamonds (and any laranite that might be there) and take it to the TDD on Area18 or the CBD on Lorville

[fervent sedge]

Ok

[north oyster]

I don't go to PO any more unless travel requires it. I don't mine Yela any longer because of all the changes.

I use to run diamonds from T&M to PO but that is no longer an option since all the trade changes and PO doesn't buy

Was a great short run

[fervent sedge]

Rip

Is trading always a pain or is it just bad?

[north oyster]

I would contend it is a pain but worth it most of the time. The issue is exploits (refinery bug) that is crashing the servers and messing up supply. I'm pretty sure once 3.13 comes out with the pending Hercules, trade will get some love

[fervent sedge]

Yep

I can’t wait for the Hercules

[north oyster]

yep, got the C2 and jazzed

[fervent sedge]

What’s your guess on the UEC price for the Hercules

20m?

[north oyster]

in that ball park I'm sure

[fervent sedge]

Probably and hopefully

Hope it isn’t to bad

[north oyster]

about the same as a Carrack maybe

[crimson mantle]

You see how the trade is outlined in yellow? That means that you most likely won't be able to fill up completely.
You can either filter those trades out (like this: https://i.imgur.com/3XNgXCy.png), or fill-up on an alternative commodity once you bought out the Laranite (like so: https://i.imgur.com/OGiEvFW.png).

[north oyster]

Carrack is 26M

CAT is 4.6, so the cost per SCU might be way cheaper taking a CAT over a C2

[fervent sedge]

Yep but the c2 will have much better details

[sly copper]

Want to do trading in my MSR, what commodity would you recommend?

Anything like larenite and agricium, any vice etc I can barely get 1scu

[crimson mantle]

Feel free to try https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Mercury%2520Star%2520Runner%2522,%2522investment%2522:250000,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:5000,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522%257D
Depends how much you have to invest really.

[proud hearth]

I just bought my ROC on lorville, where can I spawn it to load onto my cutlass?

[north oyster]

@proud hearth at any planet station outpost with landing pads and a ground spawn

Also, when you load it into your cutty, get into the habit when you get out of it OF turning around and CLOSING the ROC. If you stow it open, it might entrap you next time you spawn the ship

I did two runs yesterday in ROC and made 169k and 203k respecfully

[north oyster]

Try this: Go to T&M on Cellin, buy diamonds (and any scrap laranite they might have) the go to any TDD to sell. Area18 TDD or Lorville CBD

[fervent sedge]

If I had a ship full of cargo and was landed. Then while I was walking to the tdd terminal and lagged out. Would my cargo still be In Ship?

[silk delta]

@fervent sedge , Yes your cargo should remain

[fervent sedge]

Ok

[hoary monolith]

Is the time savings of the Crossfield QD worth the extra fuel use for a Cutlass Black doing mostly ROC mining? I'm thinking the time savings would let me make more money per time even with the extra fuel costs.

[digital thorn]

Ok, just coming back into the game since last Christmas. Where do I sell Hadanite now?

[crimson mantle]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Hadanite
On the planet surface where you mine it

[digital thorn]

thanks

[sonic laurel]

yes

[hoary monolith]

Thanks for the confirmation.

[sonic laurel]

np

[north oyster]

Crossfield is what I would consider the best or second best QT engine. You can't lose using one. I run either that or the XL-1 in all ships that can support them

[thorny copper]

If you got some dough to spare I'd def get XL-1 but crossfield is great in a pinch

[split minnow]

@fervent sedge if you're getting hassled while trying to trade or mine consider hiring some escorts

[fervent sedge]

Ok

[split minnow]

Shoot me a DM or post something in #looking-for-session

[magic shard]

I have had terrible time trying to mine minerals this weekend. I have not been able to find much anything on Aberdeen - where were you mining? Are you using ship to locate the minerals or just drive around in the ROC?

[cunning patio]

You should be using the ship scanner flying at about 50-70m/s to find the little diamonds and i believe aberdeen is still the best (someone correct me if i’m wrong)

[magic shard]

Alright, thanks for the exact speed range! What scan magnification do you use?

[bronze sinew]

I hate you. Grats.

How many SCU were that?

Also, do you guys and gals have a good spot for mining in a mole? I feel like around the Stations is my best bet, since i cant efficiently solo mine QT with a mole.
Just go for Mass instead of Class?

[bronze sinew]

Oh boy

[cunning patio]

just the normal 1x dude (you could reel it in if you wanted to) , cutty black and roc is all you need

[topaz ivy]

Hi guys can you say me where can i go to sell my cargo when lorville is full stock of that?

[fallow glacier]

Arccorp, probably all landing zones will have full stock tho till they fix the refinery exploit

Which I don't see happening anytime soon

[topaz ivy]

i dont know nothing of exploits, because im new i only have 2 weeks in the game 😅

[fallow glacier]

Yeah I know about exploit but don't wanna use it .. it kinda ruins it for everyone
In an already broken current stock/inventory system . This exploit made it worse since 3.12

Which resource are you trying to sell

[topaz ivy]

quantanium

[fallow glacier]

https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Carrack%2522,%2522investment%2522:5000000,%2522itemName%2522:%2522Quantainium%2522,%2522itemQuantity%2522:1000,%2522depositType%2522:%2522MISC%2520Prospector%2520or%2520Argo%2520Mole%2522,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522itemTypes%2522:%255B%255D,%2522itemTypesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%2522Agricium%2522,%2522E%2527tam%2522,%2522Laranite%2522,%2522Neon%2522,%2522SLAM%2522,%2522WiDoW%2522%255D,%2522maxVolume%2522:476%257D

The link is long uh

It's weird how long the link gets

Quantanium refresh is highest at arccorp

[topaz ivy]

Do you think that its good idea go to Area 18?

[fallow glacier]

Probably better to go to arc if you have a huge bulk

Yeah only if your server is stable tho
Been seeing lots of 30ks lately

[topaz ivy]

Yes ive got 2 today

[fallow glacier]

How much scu you got

[topaz ivy]

ive got 150k

ive scared about a 30k in this moment hahaha

[fallow glacier]

So that's like 150 scu right
You could just sit at lorville keep refreshing every 10ish min

Will take atleast an hour to sell it all
Or less of you're lucky

[topaz ivy]

Im going to Area 18 now 2Mkm left

[fallow glacier]

Ah good luck

[topaz ivy]

Thank you i need it

[fallow glacier]

Arccorp has more units refreshed per tick
So it's always better to go there rn with the broken inventory

[topaz ivy]

i need luck, the force and a ring company

[thorny copper]

with all the supply shortages and wonky store terminals from that exploit as well as 30k on top you have to be a complete masochist to attempt trading at the moment

[fallow glacier]

Lol

[thorny copper]

oh and not to forget all the freefly griefers lol

[fallow glacier]

Yeah I got 15 refinery orders waiting for free fly to end

[topaz ivy]

omgg is better wait then??

[thorny copper]

trading is one of my main hobbies in this game but its been pretty much hopeless since like early december

imo

[topaz ivy]

i want to be trader but all the people say that is a lost of time

[thorny copper]

well previously you had mostly 30k to worry about

[ornate rock]

free fly has nothing to do with the market being flooded with duped goods.

[thorny copper]

nah he just waiting to go sell until all the gankers are gone

or most of them anyways

[fallow glacier]

Free fly had to do with the 30ks I'm experiencing and lag

[ornate rock]

ah ye, I guess it might be less 30ks

[thorny copper]

30k's has been decent for me

but probably even less so after

and overall smoother servers

[ornate rock]

wasn't too bad for me either since free fly start tbh, I think it might have to do more with the cap increase to 50

[fallow glacier]

Getting atleast 2 everyday in 2 hours I play
Ever since ff started

[ornate rock]

I kinda hope CIG reduce the cap to 40 after free fly

[thorny copper]

had about 6 hrs on a single server tonight

[fallow glacier]

Sometimes ship buttons don't work or functions like ping takes 5 sec to register even when server BWin rate is over 0.5

[fallow glacier]

Yeah I feel it's just luck for some people

[thorny copper]

not sure if I'd like the idea of decreasing player count from an already low 50 unless they're getting close to redoing the whole thing

[fallow glacier]

These are all just band aid fixes anyway till we get tier 1 meshing atleast
But with 40 cap even during event there was barely any 30k

[ornate rock]

during XT the servers were super stable, but it's hard to say if it was the lower cap or just less players compared to free fly

[thorny copper]

I got a few 30ks during xeno

[fallow glacier]

I did get couple 30k during phase 3 but phase 2 was smoooth

[thorny copper]

twice when I was like 2hrs into that cargo stage

[fallow glacier]

I'm usually not running cargo till I see number of players in a server I enter .. if it's under 30ish
You know it's a relatively new server

And will be 30k free for awhile

[topaz ivy]

Its a good good idea

[fallow glacier]

Always works like a charm

[topaz ivy]

Guys do u know if i can mine quantanium asteroids in a MOLE alone

[fallow glacier]

Yeah I do it all the time

Lancet as main head

Surge as consumable if you find something really hard to crack

Tho upto 45ish quant rocks I've cracked without consumable. With just lancet

[maiden narwhal]

i wish there was more than 8 units of any material for sell so i could make money...i only have cat

[hallow haven]

before u mine with prospector u need to buy the attachment right?

[north oyster]

Finding the small deposits is tricky at best. You can't go blasting through as you ping the area because the small deposits normally only show up within 1200 meters (small hand deposits of .11 show up only with 400 or so meters). You will often find the small hadanite deposits near the large ore deposits. So when you have an ore icon on your screen (aka near by) do a full power ping 360 to see if any boxes pop up.
To avoid contact with griefers and other players, I normally do a drop from an orbital marker (they are about 145k above surface). If you decide to do a drop to the surface, point down and get your speed up to about 1000 m/s. Once you hit that, uncouple and do a flip to get ready to burn. When the horizontal grid shows up, hit your Couple key to start the ship firing its engines. you should come to a safe and complete stop approx 10k above the surface.

[fallow glacier]

Yep stock ones are pretty meh
Lancet + surge if you want quantanium rocks

[north oyster]

Like Windblade said, you need to upgrade your laser head and add consumables. Many like the Lancet, it gives the bonus of an increased green zone. Consumables I use are the Lifeline, Stampede and Surge. I prefer the Helix still and with that combo can crack any mine-able rock in the game.

[hallow haven]

thanks, i'll watch some tutorial first because it looks like theres a lot of different stuf

[gritty jackal]

There were a cluster of 7 quantum rocks. Needed another person to help break some

We both had enough to fill prospectors up with nothing but quantum

Bring it to cru l1 to refine and it's like over 300k credits from one rock

[north oyster]

Madrealm Gaming, Space Tomato and Digthat32 both have a good video on this. DigThat doesn't go into consumables but he gives great advice on the gaming loop. There is one specific YT video that I"m looking for that was fantastic for mining with consumables. I'll link that when I find it.

[hallow haven]

@north oyster thanks man! im also seeing a video about cargo transport

[north oyster]

Here's the one by SuperMacBrother that I found really helpful in being able to crack any ore rock in the game no matter the size. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MLHd3PMuWs&ab_channel=SuperMacBrother

The stealth mods section is good idea, but where I normally mine I only have to worry about NPCs attacking randomly, there are never any players.

ALSO !! Be sure to buy your laser head and consumables at the Refinery Stores. The Stores give you a 50% discount on all items. (you may need to look at different L1 refineries for specific laser heads). Also you can rent ROC (super cheap 4700 aUEC) and cutty here. Plus you can buy the Pembroke armor at half price here also.

[gritty jackal]

what planet is that even on?

[north oyster]

On the video? It looks like MicroTech to me

[gritty jackal]

never actually went explore micro tech yet

[north oyster]

I always mine moons and currently in the Hurston system atm. Lower gravity makes it much easier and less fuel burn

[hallow haven]

i never went to that place, theres forest and all 😮

[gritty jackal]

i mine the asteroid belt of yela

[north oyster]

Yes, there are green zones on MT but not real easy to find

[gritty jackal]

my personal fav so far

[north oyster]

Aaron's Halo use to be my home until they took Delamar away from us

[fallow glacier]

I still mine at Aaron halo now and then

[north oyster]

Right now I'm focused on fastest turn around on good ore. So I run from HUR-L1 to Aberdeen or Arial and back. This allows a fast turn around as I work to fill a CAT with refined ore

[fallow glacier]

Did you ever find a griefer at refinery?

[north oyster]

knock on wood, that has not been an issue for me. But obviously that could change in a new york second.

[gritty jackal]

im trying to fill a cat with nothing but quantum

however long that takes

[north oyster]

wow

[fallow glacier]

Had this guy named loraofvulcan on EU server , camping cru l1 and torping any mining ship

[gritty jackal]

if i have found a good spot which im checking again

should only take like 30 runs

[fallow glacier]

Only

[north oyster]

If I encounter someone like that, I will go hunt them down

[fallow glacier]

Yeah same

[north oyster]

Yeah @gritty jackal I'm trying to figure the number of runs needed to fill. I had originally thought 20 would do it, but looks like more

[fallow glacier]

If you backspace yourself after you land on the pad
Ship auto stores

[gritty jackal]

about 32 runs if you fill propsector with nothing but quantum

so more for error

[fallow glacier]

I saved the ship from his to doing that

[gritty jackal]

you look at like a 5.3m profit if you fill a cat with refined ore

although im not sure if diffrent places buy quantum for more or not

[fallow glacier]

Are you saving credits for any ship or just hoarding

[gritty jackal]

never seen that listed anywhere

mostly just hoarding

only have like 1.5m rn

[fallow glacier]

Ah gotcha

Try getting a mole if you mine that much

Will save you looot of time

I usually end up with 40-45 scu quant and 20-30scu of Laranite or heph on my mole

[gritty jackal]

i had a mole but trades it up for a reclaimer a while back

[fallow glacier]

Right , looking forward to salvage gameplay
Tho we'll be just getting basic salvaging this year I think

T0

[gritty jackal]

prob

[crimson mantle]

You can also look at https://youtu.be/dqVhs1cGhmo

[magic shard]

Those are valuable advice, thanks a lot!

[gritty jackal]

how many refining orders can you have at one time?

[pallid temple]

There doesn't seem to be a limit

[north oyster]

I've had up to 15 at one time, like Dr Intro mentions, there doesn't seem to be any limit

[cinder osprey]

Any idea on how to get around this issue or what causes it? Can't seem to sell my resources

[crimson mantle]

Shops can only buy so much stuff at a time. The refresh rate, or when they start buying again, seems to be less often nowadays.
On top of that, there is a dupe-glitch where some people can saturate the markets with refined metals, so those sell even less often :/

You can either

• wait
• try to sell at a different location

[proud hearth]

had my first successful ROC mining run with a friend last night. Gotta say, I'm enjoying it quite a bit

Daymar's a nice moon for it too, weather is generally pretty good

[crimson mantle]

Indeed! It's got lots of aphorite, which is really easy to mine 🙂

[cinder osprey]

@crimson mantle Is there a posted time when the market refreshes and will start accepting items again? I was told to change servers, that did nothing as well as the fact that I tried mining and selling the exact same way the exact same place like 2 days ago and had the same problem, was never able to sell

[crimson mantle]

All the servers are connected: changing servers doesn't help at all 🙂
(It will anecdotally work because sometime the refresh tick happens when you run back to the terminal)
It's supposed to be every minute, but it seems like it's much more infrequent these days. Some people say ~10 mins.
The other thing, as mentioned, is that the refined-metal dupe glitch allow some people to sit by trade terminals with 1000s of SCU and spam the sell button.

[cinder osprey]

Hm, so whats the advice then?
Don't mine until they fix this?
Only mine rarer resources?
I'm new and find mining the most interesting thing so far, just not useful when I've done it a few times and have no money to show

[crimson mantle]

There's always the possibility of selling the ores raw (unrefined).
Less impressive payouts, but it works better at the moment.

[north oyster]

Also, there is an exploit that is messing up all sells. If someone is running this exploit, it often bogs down the whole system. Trying at different times and different locations on a different server may help, but sometimes it doesn't

[magic shard]

Hearing you all talk about the exploit makes me really wonder when the next wipe happens :)

[thorny copper]

hope it at least happens this year

[nova solstice]

anybody wanna go mining togethe R?

[north oyster]

Invictus Week this year will be my one year anniversary of playing Star Citizen (I signed up in 2014 but never participated). I have enjoyed building up from scratch a "successful" in-game fleet. Running pizza deliveries, doing trade, running bounties and most of all getting rather proficient at mining has allowed me to buy what ever ship I might want in the verse, help others and overall enjoy the game.
I would hate to loose all this but I am more than willing to once again build back up from zero if we could kill off some of these exploits that crash out the game and make it difficult for everyone.

[keen gorge]

Have they talked about trading? It's pitiful the amount of money you can make trading.

[north oyster]

I'm thinking that with the Hercules Starlifter coming online that 3.13 will bring some promising updates to Trade like 3.12 brought to bounties. But that is me speculating

[keen gorge]

I hope that is true

I just spent

60k with trade searching price values and with a calculator at my side

and made 5k

[lofty crest]

trading is dead, long live trade

[proud hearth]

So the trade issue... does that mean that these routes and calcs aren't really viable due to stock issues?

[hollow sedge]

@crimson mantle You are really good at helping people. I just want to take a moment to thank you for not only help myself but everyone in SC .

[lofty crest]

SLAM is low low stock so yes

unless you wanna jump/ wait

[proud hearth]

hmm, are there any alternative uses for the freelancer worth trying out during these last few days of free fly?

besides combat of course... which it's not great at 😐

[lofty crest]

the freelancer is good if you wanna take a few buds around has lots of space

but apart from that the hauling aspect of it is :/

[crimson mantle]

Correct! The yellow ones are extra risky. You can either filter them out (https://i.imgur.com/3XNgXCy.png) or fill your hold with a second commodity (https://i.imgur.com/vPay6FM.png)

[proud hearth]

what is the highest possible restock rate currently in game?

is that even available in data mining?

[crimson mantle]

Oh yes, let me pull that out for you

[proud hearth]

I've been introducing a friend of mine to the various gameplay loops of the current build and we haven't really spent any time with the freelancer yet

[crimson mantle]

It's Beryl at Area18 TDD: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Beryl

For the most available trade overall (buying AND selling), it's fluorine: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Caterpillar%2522,%2522investment%2522:10000000,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:180000%257D

[proud hearth]

ah, it makes sense that it's the low margin commodities that are available in high volumes

as supply of course affects demand and thus price

[proud hearth]

What are some other good moons/planets for ROC mining besides Daymar? I tried Aberdeen but the weather and thus visibility was awful. It also seemed to have a very fast day/night cycle and rough terrain which wasn't the best.

[crimson mantle]

Arial is almost as good as Aberdeen, and some prefer the more even terrain: https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Greycat%2520ROC%2522%257D

After Daymar is drops quite fast though

[proud hearth]

hmm, might try Arial then, Daymar seems to be a popular spot for PVPers unfortunately

and by the way, love your site! It has helped a ton in researching how to make the best of the trade/mining side of the game

[crimson mantle]

My pleasure, that's why I made it!

[proud hearth]

I wonder if trade supply issues will improve when free fly event is over...

[unique flame]

did they do something to sell locations for refined ore? i've got a load of quant on hurston that i can't sell for some reason. borase was no issue

[proud hearth]

like you can't sell at all or is it saying they're oversold?

[unique flame]

it's saying nothing

[proud hearth]

there's a limited rate at which stations will buy commodities, just like with selling

hmm, SC-trade says lorville is still buying quant

[unique flame]

after 3.12 dropped i had no issue selling here either

but i'll go try arccorp or something

[proud hearth]

likely more of a momentary issue then, can try logging out and in on a diff server

[unique flame]

okay yeah the TDD is full, just sold 2000

[molten scaffold]

Does anyone know if there is a way I can avoid this? Whenever I go to a trading port, there's barely enough SCU of the item I'm buying to make me profit.

[unique flame]

don't trade

mine

[molten scaffold]

Where is the best place to mine? I'm not even going to bother with quant so you can leave that out

[unique flame]

i only do quant, double the profit

[molten scaffold]

Bruh how do you do it

I always blow up cause I don't have enough time

[unique flame]

don't mine any with less than like 20% by mass

and don't suck it up till all the rocks are broken

you can only mine 1 rock (cluster) can't fly around looking for scraps of quant. it's all in one go or not at all

[molten scaffold]

Hm, alright

Where is the best place to find this?

[unique flame]

i'm usually around HUR-L3 but i've heard the flat bits around the mountains or lyria are pretty nice

[molten scaffold]

Alright, thanks. How many trips to the refinery and back will it take to build up a good amount of profit?

[unique flame]

if you manage to average out on 20 SCU it's about 200k per trip

or well, 172k to be precise at 20SCU

i average 25 i think

and i got sick of hauling it with my freelancer so i used some profits to buy a cat

aaaand i'm dead. thanks quantum drive

gotta love that stupid bug

quantum me into a building

[molten scaffold]

Oh damn

Alright thanks bro

[cloud condor]

and HUR L3 is the best palce to mine for quantanium?

[fallow glacier]

yep just finished mining at l3

[crimson mantle]

Best places to mine, no quantainium: https://bit.ly/3qJvdZq (feel free to change the filters in "Commodities" to remove the less-valuable stuff)

[crimson mantle]

Technically it's the moons of microTech: https://bit.ly/2ZDWWyH

[crimson mantle]

But if you want to stick to space, all L3s are equal: https://bit.ly/3kidben

[fickle zephyr]

then you are not taking into account ease of operations

scanners scan further, ship can go faster safely

[crimson mantle]

Completely fair! Your home base may also change your preference.

[fickle zephyr]

less fuel

yes

[crimson mantle]

Sticking to space is a simple filter away 😄
Those are just options

[fickle zephyr]

doesnt HUR L3 have a refinery also? gank heaven

[crimson mantle]

HUR L1/L2 only in that area, unfortunately

[fickle zephyr]

aha its L2

and every L1

i have been sticking to MIC L1 and aaron halo/clio

just for less ganking

its probably not optimal

[fallow glacier]

Can't seem to solo mole on micro moons or any moons with wind
Ship seems to drift apart as soon I leave the seat

[fickle zephyr]

yes i take MOLE to aaron halo and prospector to clio

[fallow glacier]

Ah good idea
Used to do Aaron halo with mole but finding lots of quant lately at l3

Got almost 80scu quant in one run earlier
Solo run too

[fickle zephyr]

i started out with CRU L3 before in 3.12.1

didnt play in 3.12

[fallow glacier]

Ah I see

[fickle zephyr]

80 scu quant is nice in solo mole

you must be fast

[fallow glacier]

Yeah for used to soloing with mole
Rocks were just half km apart too

2 rocks

[fickle zephyr]

nice

does it work to crack both big rocks first and then crack the smaller ones or does the deteriation start already when the big rock is cracked?

[fallow glacier]

I crack them first

Then extract both at same time
Never saw them vanish

[fickle zephyr]

nice i have to try

[fallow glacier]

Even after 10ish min they're still there

Yeah

[fickle zephyr]

@crimson mantle is the best member of this chat

just giving and giving and never taking

not even any commercials

on the site

[crimson mantle]

I'm just trying to democratise the obscure mechanics underlying trading and mining.
I don't like that some people with technical knowledge could have an advantage in-game because they can data-mine. As long is it's not clear in-game and useful, I'll keep going 😄

Ah well, about that: ads are ugly and always a chore to fit in the design anyway 😛

[fickle zephyr]

hehe

you are doing a great job

[crimson mantle]

Thank you

[fickle zephyr]

im sorry if my aspegers ever sounds rude

[crimson mantle]

What?! No worries, can't say I've noticed anything 😄
I never assume tone in written messages on the internet.

[fickle zephyr]

[fervent sedge]

Carrack decent cargo ship

?

[north oyster]

Yes and so much more

[fervent sedge]

I got one but it’s a pain in the ass to run solo

I’ve used it very little

[north oyster]

She's a nice ship but too large for simple daily routines. When other systems open up then she'll come into a new role

[gritty jackal]

is there a website to track where you sell minables

galactic logistics only shows up to laranite and i think its out dated anyways

[north oyster]

SC Trade tools

But trade is bent at the moment

[gritty jackal]

should i just sell quantum at big cities?

[north oyster]

Ore?

[gritty jackal]

refined

[north oyster]

Refined ore, yes

[gritty jackal]

at like 110 scu

just building it up in the cru l1 refinery

[north oyster]

Quantainium is best coin in that loop

I'm doing other ore atm, filling a CAT

[gritty jackal]

go mining for a bit then do a few group bounties to get back the cost of the refining

simple rotation

[north oyster]

I use the best and cheapest, not in a rush

[gritty jackal]

i just do the expensive one rather than waiting 2 days

might do the 2 day one to save idk

since im just hording materials

[north oyster]

I've stacked up about 15 jobs, it's usually 1 day and 6 hours and cost 2000 aUEC

[gritty jackal]

i do high yield always

cost like 6k for the slow and 36k for the fast

[north oyster]

This has the best yield also

The day I plan to take to market is when I do the expensive one

[gritty jackal]

ill fill a cat with qauntum at some point

eventually

slowly but surly

[north oyster]

Did you see the video of the CAT full of Quan crashing on approach to NB?

I can turn around loads of laranite, bexilite and Agricium pretty fast.

[gritty jackal]

im having good luck finding like 40% qauntum rocks within 30 minutes of mining

so just been doing that

[north oyster]

In Aaron's Halo?

[gritty jackal]

yelas ateroid belt

out of grim hex

never had an issue with pirates

[north oyster]

I use to live doing Quan until they took Delamar away. Doing quick runs to Aberdeen for now

Had some good ROC runs to mix things up

[gritty jackal]

never tried the roc yet

[north oyster]

Fun change of pace. Cheap investment with great return. I use the MAX to carry her around

[cinder osprey]

I want to try mining and possibly refining while I have the prospector for free but can't mine rocks of too high density because of the stock laser on the prospector. Any ideas on what I should set my goal on mining and possibly even where to mine at?

[north oyster]

You can change it

It's not a rental

[cinder osprey]

Hm, I thought it was equivalent to a rental

[north oyster]

Nope

[cinder osprey]

Wish I would have known that earlier when I lost most of my money lmao

[gritty jackal]

i love yellas belt

ran into a cluster of 9 quantum rocks

although biggest one was 11%

so passing it up

[cinder osprey]

I've been using stock Prospector so I can't mine them but I saw a few 40-60% Quantainium, made me cry not being able to mine them

[north oyster]

@cinder osprey not sure how you list funds, but you can earn pretty good with bounties and mining

At the refinery store get the Lancet

[cinder osprey]

I'm mostly trying to stick to mining since it seems like the hardest thing to do when the freefly is over but I haven't done much of any Contracts on my own tbh

So I'm down to try any for a bit, just not trying to do what my friend has been doing which is the Monitors mission on repeat trying to earn 800k 🙃 doesn't sound like fun to me

[north oyster]

Also get lifeline, surge and stampeed

[gritty jackal]

you can crack a 40% solo if you have consumables

[quartz swallow]

you dont really need lifeline

optimum, surge and stampeed do the trick for me

[north oyster]

I didn't think you could use optimum with stampeed

[quartz swallow]

you cant

but depending on the rock comp you encounter

if the quant % is super high you need optimum to keep the blip in the green with surge

[north oyster]

Lifeline comes in handy with surge

[quartz swallow]

and if the quant % is normal, you can just use stampeed to get it done quicker

because the green area is larger anyway

[north oyster]

You use the Lancet?

[north oyster]

I still use helix but I'm not doing quantainium atm

[cinder osprey]

Are consumables 1 time use? Or are they like laser modifications?

[north oyster]

5x

[cinder osprey]

Which I guess typically you find 1 good rock and leave, so on average it'd be per 5 trips as long as you're mining correctly?

[north oyster]

Pain in the butt that we cantt change out in the field

Correct

[cinder osprey]

Can I get a quick TL:DR on Surge, Optimum, Stampeed and Lifeline and when you guys typically use them?

Or do you find a rock and pop all 3 before mining it?

[north oyster]

SuperMacBrother has a great video on those and he demonstrates. I think I linked it earlier. Video covers dropping the Prospector's EM signature and then he shows using the consumables

[north oyster]

They are limited on time, so you pop then right when you need them

[cinder osprey]

I see

I'll find it real quick then

[north oyster]

Oops

Crap, wrong link. On phone and can't change it

[cinder osprey]

I found it

Don't worry

The stealth prospector one, correct?

[north oyster]

Good

Yes

[cinder osprey]

Yeah I got it

Thanks

[cinder osprey]

To the people who mine quantainium. I've found some good rocks before but spent a while flying around HUR L3 and haven't found a rock above 3%. Is that common? Just have to get lucky and find the right rock?

[molten scaffold]

What are the best consumables for mining quant?

[silk delta]

Optimum + Stampede to get that green zone filled without sweating bullets

[molten scaffold]

Thanks. Where can I get Optimum?

[silk delta]

Port Olisar, but it's twice the cost there than at the refineries at ARC-L1, HUR-L2, MIC-L1.

[cinder osprey]

I mined a few SCU of Quantainium and it instantly started flashing red and I think exploded itself?

[wheat solar]

Stealth?

[fallow glacier]

Doesn't happen instantly unless you crashed into something
Takes 15 min to go boom after extracting

[eternal loom]

this actually happened to me today I'm confused on why it happened. found a set of three broke em down started picking them up timer started with 1 second then when to -1, -2, and -3 then boom.

[lethal wigeon]

on the topic of quantainium, i have 3 refining process already going on, brought a 4th cargo , selecting prospector only shown trash rocks but not the quantainium
could it be that it "exploded" on my way to elevators/refinery? I assumed that if it exploded the whole ship + other minerals/trash would disappear too
or is there a limit of 3 refining process max ? or 3 quantainium process max and other additionnal minerals allowed? confused ..

[fickle zephyr]

if it "explodes" in armistice it just goes inert

[lethal wigeon]

oh that might have happened, and so the rest of trash minerals were still accessible to refine, makes sense, cheers

[hallow haven]

lyria has so many mining mining spots, which one of em should i go first

[north oyster]

Someone may have mentioned this, but first thing is stow your ship when you reach the lobby. And it may have exploded on the long ride from the pad to the lobby, that's happened to me before. I sometimes double check at the Raw terminal to see what it shows.

[hexed breach]

always store your ship when landed at refinary stops the clock

[lethal wigeon]

damnnn I asked in global chat about it , people told me "stop dreaming and hurry to refine" , made sense in my head at that moment.

real info was here apparently cheers Major Miners

@hallow haven you targeted the correct location, Lyria, but may I introduce you to the Motherland , the unlimited landfield of quantainium?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw4ZXb07hcM

[north oyster]

Thanks for sharing, I missed this Hawkes' video somehow. I use to mine Quantainium exclusively but after all the changes I just dropped down to something easier and less stressful. I'll certain take a look at upping my game again

[hallow haven]

thanks @lethal wigeon i'll watch it if my ass doesnt freeze to death in calliope

i'll watch it now since the ship glitched and i went from 99 hydrogen to 0

[north oyster]

Hawkes always goes great stuff, fun to watch also

[hallow haven]

ah but that video is for prospector, im mining with the multi tool

[north oyster]

I've developed a quick routine for mining in the HUR area on Aberdeen. Never any griefers though I surprisingly got jumped by an NPC that I had to run from. Talk about random.

[north oyster]

you have the Prospector for a few more days with the Free Fly

[hallow haven]

the glitchs are a bit tilting because u realize u probably just lost 2 hours trying to learn about something and the ship just glitches out and runs out of fuel

[north oyster]

have you entered the code to get the ships?

[hallow haven]

Yeah i have it, but i wanted to do with a multi tool first a bit, not even a lot, just one time to feel what is like but not even that i can do

[north oyster]

odd, the Hydrogen scoops by MISC are the best in the industry. I've never had a fuel issue

[hallow haven]

i've had now, couldnt fuel on the station, lost 20 mins there, and then i arrived at the moon, some other dude was coming to help me and my ship just went from 90 hydrogen to 0 and i alt+f4

[north oyster]

For the multi-tool, scan the surface and look for hand deposits. They are .11 in size and only show up if you are within 400 or less meters

[hallow haven]

so i should buy an attachement to my ship to be able to scan the terrain?

or the misc prospector already can do that

[north oyster]

all ships can scan for ore

Also, you need to scan at full power for the small deposits. They are often around large ore deposits

The ROC minables are .85 or so in size

The Pembroke armor is half price at the Refinery Store, so are the other mining gear

You can rent a ROC for about 4000 aUEC also

[hallow haven]

i had the pembroke when i played in the last free flight

now i just bought the navik anything like that for the cold

[north oyster]

Novi is certainly needed too

[hallow haven]

so anyship can scan, i was using the mustang

[north oyster]

For now, picking up the envelopes is a good way to earn quick cash

Yes, the mustang can scan also

[hallow haven]

nice, i self destroyed in the caliope moon so i'll go back there and try to scan for stuf to mine

[north oyster]

Aberdeen (hot) has good hadanite deposits also

[hallow haven]

i just glitched out of the elevator

3 times in a row now

[north oyster]

I wonder if it is your computer. You running an SSD and 16gigs?

[hallow haven]

yeah the game is on ssd and 16gb ram

[north oyster]

"on ssd" do you also have a mechanical drive?

[hallow haven]

gtx 1060 3gb and a ryzen 5

i dont have problem with fps or loading textures, idk why this is happen

[north oyster]

If you have a mechanical, then make sure the OS is on the SSD and also that the HD has no caching or swap space being used by the OS

From what you are mentioning, I'm leaning towards thinking it is a rendering issue because of I/O on your system. But that's just an impression I have

[rain nebula]

Is cargo hauling profitable with smaller scu ships like the connie or should i just do contracts with a super hornet

[lethal wigeon]

@hallow haven please don't inflict yourself hand mining, there is a reason it's the punishment in prison , don't try to enjoy it right now (it might be enjoyable in the future in better caves etc, not right now)
instead try Cutlass/ROC renting for 1 day:
ROC - 4,299 aUEC
Cutlass Black - 34,623 aUEC
Spawn the Cutlass > go to Hurston > Aberdeen > land at any "HDMS-XXXXX" location > go to the blue office > spawn ROC > put ROC into Cutlass
start mining

[hollow sedge]

cargo got nerfed

[crimson mantle]

Given that these routes are the best scenario ones, you can judge for yourself: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Constellation%2520Andromeda%2522,%2522investment%2522:250000,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:2500,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%255D%257D

[crimson mantle]

That's the exploit ruining everybody's day 😢

[rain nebula]

yea i have been running some of the more profitable routes and only make around 40k every 30 minutes, im trying to get a high scu ship but connie is the highest scu rental

[hollow sedge]

How does one material affect all the other materials?

[rain nebula]

im aiming for a caterpillar but its 4mil auec

[hollow sedge]

@rain nebula you can do it!

[rain nebula]

yea but max i can make is 50k per hour since im not that good at dogfighting

[hallow haven]

@lethal wigeon what does roc mean

[rain nebula]

its a mining car

[hallow haven]

am i doin this correctly?

[crimson mantle]

You cannot mine in a mustang 🙂
You need a prospector, which is part of the freefly right now: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/February-Free-Fly (scroll down)

[lethal wigeon]

@hallow haven best ROC tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft99aGETfFY

[hollow sedge]

that is how you scan for deposits yes

[hollow sedge]

how is one commodity connected to others? like, how, if Quant is bugged, does that affect laranite traders?

[hallow haven]

ik i cant mine in the mustang but im only using for scanning the rocks and then go outside with the multi tool right?

[hollow sedge]

Or astitine, Titanium ... so on

[rain nebula]

is mining with a prospector or roc better

[hollow sedge]

you will only be able to mine the hand mine-ables on the regular deposits

[crimson mantle]

You're right in saying that different commodities are disconnected.
However, right now people dupe-glitch anything minable. Since most valuable commodities are "refined ores", it only leaves low value stuff for people to trade 😦

[hollow sedge]

you find a chuck of Quant, there be some hadanite or aphorite on that huge deposit. but not sure its worth the time and effort. You really want to get a prospector

[lethal wigeon]

@hallow haven i'm swtiching to private message to avoid spam here, you need more understanding of different kinds of mining

[hollow sedge]

so ur saying that Quant is not the only commodity that bugs out in the refinery ?

if thats true that would be a huge issue.

[crimson mantle]

I haven't tried anything myself, but I've read reports of duped refinery jobs, regardless of contents.

[hollow sedge]

I mean larger than just one item being bugable

interesting

Ive done a crap load of testing on this and have an idea as to whats causing it... is there a place I can share this info with CIG to help them?

Besides a bug report ...

[rain nebula]

i wish you could lend ships to people so they could trade in em

[crimson mantle]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community/issue-council/star-citizen-alpha-3 is the only official place we have

[hollow sedge]

hmm ok

[covert wave]

hey guys, i mined some ore and had it refined and put into my cutlass black, i then docked at olisar and stored the ship, when i requested the ship again the cargo wasnt visible inside the ship like it was before, is it gone?

[hollow sedge]

happens all the time

[vocal chasm]

If you didn't claim your ship I see no reason why your cargo should be gone.

[hollow sedge]

stuffs still in there likely.

[vocal chasm]

Probably a visual bug

[hollow sedge]

^

[vocal chasm]

Just try to sell anyways ^^

just as normal

[hollow sedge]

Ive tried logging off after loading up ships and even then its a hit or miss to have your cargo materialize on grid.

not sure why that is

[hollow sedge]

how did u do that?

[covert wave]

ok thanks guys, ive been trying to find somewhere to sell gold, but none of the mining outposts on moons will let me dock

says im the wrong size

[vocal chasm]

xD

oh no

You don't need to dock on mining outposts to sell @covert wave

Just park nearby and search for the building with the orange lights on top. Inside you will find a trading console.

Did you try to park your vehicle on the parking spaces beside the blue buildings?

[covert wave]

i requested landing through F11 menu but it said i didnt fit lol, i thought i would need to be on a pad to trade

ill go back and land on the dirt

[pulsar bloom]

Lancet or helix for a prospector

[hollow sedge]

what are you mining?

lancet for quantanium, helix for anything else

[pulsar bloom]

hadinite

ok thanks

[hollow sedge]

hadinite you need a ROC or hand miner

[pulsar bloom]

I have those

[hollow sedge]

but you can crack the hand minables with a prospector https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHjNlaTpC3o im not sure if this is the right video i was thinking of but i think he is popping deposits with prospector and collecting with ROC

[pulsar bloom]

I just stay away from quantanium

[hollow sedge]

as a duo

and if you wanna do this, id go with a less powerful laser than the helix ... i bet lancet works nicely for this

[pulsar bloom]

ok I'll check it out thanks

[hollow sedge]

yea mate

glad if i could help

[covert wave]

any idea where i can sell gold?

[hollow sedge]

https://gallog.co/commodities/metal/gold

[crimson mantle]

Mainly the main cities: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Gold

[hollow sedge]

you beat me to it

[covert wave]

awesome guys thanks

[hallow haven]

corey taught me how to prospect mine but refining takes 16 hours oof

[hollow salmon]

Can i bring hadanite to the refinery ?

[crimson mantle]

No 🙂
It sells as-is in the mining outposts, right where you mine it!

[north oyster]

The refinery option has 5 options and they cost on some front. The fast cheap loose over 20% of your cargo. The slow and best takes a day. The Fast and Best cost a bundle. So there are options that can speed it up

[north oyster]

Or you can just sell the Raw ore. This cuts profit in half but generates instant aUEC. You can pull over 40K per run up to +80k per run with Quan

[hallow haven]

but i dont have the money to buy the laser attachement which means everything i mine will probably be garbage

[hollow sedge]

@hallow haven naa, you can find agricium and laranite and bexalite and mine the smaller mass deposits just fine with a stock mining head. Having tested starting from 0 myself, it may be confusing at first or seem like an uphill battle you cant win, but I assure you if you jsut go out there and see what you CAN mine... you will get out of that hole real fast.

[hallow haven]

i am going to arial as he told in the video

[hollow sedge]

All you need is a helix and a lancet mining head btw. 🙂 lancet for quant if you do that, and helix for anything else

for ROC mining I hope

[hallow haven]

but i dont the materials by name, i think its the mass that determines if they're good or whatever

i only have 3k and now have to wait 17 mins to get my prospect back, got destroyed on arial after crash

[hollow sedge]

not entirely true but mass does apply to how much one gets of that % rating. The % of the material you are looking for is more what you are looking for without considering mass. given mining head limitations, you do need to consider mass. You wont be cracking 8k mass rocks on darymar or yela for example, with a stock head. but you can mine 4k rocks of the best materials, any given % too

whats ur ingame char name? I can send ya 100k or something nice to get you a lil boost if thats okay

you can then buy your lancet and go mine quantanium, pretty much the most profitable ore atm and if you didnt want to do that, you can mine with a helix getting anything else 🙂

[north oyster]

In that case, go for volume of raw materials. and make sure it is a short route. So if you run between Aberdeen and HUR-L1, you can do quick 10min runs that can make 20 to 40k per run. That's just an idea, do what if fun because there is nothing you "have to do" in the game.

[hallow haven]

if the color around its gold it means u have to keep mining and if it's purple u change to extraction right

[north oyster]

yes

[hollow sedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/kj26lu/40_quantanium_club/

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/khxn92/312_mining_tips/

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/kgzdlq/struggling_mining_solo_with_a_helix_mining_head/

[north oyster]

You normally crack twice and then harvest it

[hollow sedge]

these may help you out 🙂

[hallow haven]

arial - hur l2

its fine?

[hollow sedge]

not imo

[hallow haven]

damn nice graphic makes me remember transport tycoon

but more complex

[hollow sedge]

I took the time

[ashen burrow]

Dpends what you mine, but in general yea

[hollow sedge]

I dont agree with the last image though and lyria having 14% probability spawning ...

[ashen burrow]

https://uexcorp.space/

[hallow haven]

its the first time mining i wont even know if i see its valuable or not, just trying to get some first experience

unless it says in the rock the value or something

[north oyster]

I say look for Agricium and Laranite. I would say try Aberdeen. Those are easy to mine and bring good coin raw or refined

[hallow haven]

but when u're scanning the rock u can see if it has agricium and etc..

[hollow sedge]

@hallow haven your name just Asher in game?

IMO bexalite is the second best to mine atm

Laranite then Agricium.

Quantanium being best

[north oyster]

Bexalite is great stuff, without the Quan Stress syndrome

[hollow sedge]

^

yea maybe better for a begginer to mine 🙂

[hallow haven]

only more 8 minutes left for the ship to get fixed and then i'll go to abardeen

[north oyster]

I'm mine aberdeen almost exclusively now because of easy find of ore, but I"m not trying to find Quan and don't mess with it atm

[north oyster]

Asher, what's your ingame handle like CEO asked? Some of us don't mind helping a fellow player

[hallow haven]

I already talked to him, i appreciate all of the help about the game mechanic and tips, but dont really wanna to receive money, just wanna get there and conquer it u know

[hollow sedge]

oh dear, i made a mistake on my table

[north oyster]

I'm thinking Aberdeen is a little better than what the table shows, but maybe I"m bias, LOL

[ashen burrow]

aberdeen is good for bex/lar/agrc. If you aim quantanium Lyra is best

[north oyster]

I agree, and that's why some of us would help. You're willing to work, to bust through it and come out on top. You're not doing like some players who just beg in the openworld channel for funds. The idea is to help you so you don't get too frustrated. You can and will win, some helping you isn't a compromise 🙂

[hallow haven]

i got this on my launcher

can it be installed while playing or nah

[ashen burrow]

nope

it will quit the game

so better finish your mining first 😄

[north oyster]

oh, I better remote into my home computer and launch the update

[hallow haven]

didnt even started

[ashen burrow]

it's a small one

[hallow haven]

the ship is already back

[north oyster]

yea, updated pretty quick on my end also. Just a Launcher update, not a game update

[hallow haven]

oh damn now quantum break is broke cant use it for some reason

[ember star]

What would be better for smuggling drugs, MSR or Taurus?

[pallid temple]

Taurus

The entirety of the cargo bay in the Taurus is shielded

[ember star]

I thought it was only about 16 SCU that is shielded

[pallid temple]

"Security Hold: Reinforced with DoubleBlind advanced tech plating, it will stop almost all scans while not leaving a noticeable blind spot." Taken from the wiki

[ember star]

Yeah, that's just the Security Hold on the bottom that replaces the bottom turret, I dont think it's the entire cargo bay.

[hollow sedge]

you are prolly right. I did not gather that data but did dress it up to look as good as it does 😄 lol ... I disagree with a few % on that chart, the probability chart I mean, but only cause that wasnt my experiecne, example, quantanium on lyria, Ive found only small bits and in the areas recommended by those who gathered that data. I still vouch that Langrage points are the best location for quant.

but then again, I havent tested the mining on lyria, so I cannot claim much.

I just go where I continue to find 30% + deposits relatively quickly.

@pallid temple do you have any idea why the MSR doesnt have that shielding being its classified as a smuggling vessel?

[pallid temple]

Its supposed to but it just doesn't work yet

[hollow sedge]

oh ok 🙂

thanks

[wicked oracle]

hello everyone, should i be able to mine a 5k asteroid with an helix on a prospector?

cause event with consumable it's near impossible to bipass it resistance and even when it work the instability is so over the top that it goes in red right away

[hallow haven]

just need to wait another 18 mins because of a glitch

nah, it didnt convice me

[hollow sedge]

Quantanium? Helix should be able to pop 5k mass deposits. I mean I know cig did nerf the thing, but cause I havent been mining with a Helix, I cant recall what mass it can crack now. Used to be able to crack 8k +

you have surge consumables too

Lancet pops 5k mass without consumables but that has a buff for resistance and instability

if you are mining Quantanium you should be using a Lancet mining head

[north oyster]

For Quantainium, the Helix has fallen out of favor for that ore to the Lancet. Mainly because the Lancet now gives a 40% zone size boost. I think the Helix is now only 10 or so. But you need to use consumables (not so much an option). I still use the Helix primarily but I don't chase Quantainium. I think CIG readjusted the Helix back up a little because I couldn't do crap with it after the initial nerf. Now I can crack up to 6k+ rocks with just the Helix overclocked.

[hollow sedge]

did they bring the stats up a lil on the power from that initial nerf? thats good. I felt the nerf was way to much.

being they have the mole they may not want 8000+ mass to be soloable or whatever mass 6k and up, 7k and up whichever

again that is why I wrote this up !

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/kgzdlq/struggling_mining_solo_with_a_helix_mining_head/

I dont think people are paying attention to this. I can crack 8k mass rocks with the lancet using this method

I can obviously do it with a helix as well.

[wicked oracle]

oh didn't know that thanks you it will prevent some futur frustration

[wicked oracle]

gonna try it

[hollow sedge]

be careful,

[wicked oracle]

it'S game changing thanks you very much!!!

[hollow sedge]

you successful ?

[cinder osprey]

I've been finding success using Lancet head and basically only Surges

idk why I'd use Lifelines and I don't see the difference when using Stampeedes. I'd use Optimum if I had them anywhere near me but don't feel like traversing the entire solar system atm

[hollow sedge]

stampede speeds up the green window as that fills up. 🙂

so its helpful when that green is still tiny or when you just wanna get in and get out.

Mostly, I approach 8a deposit, max my laser then activate it, then hit my surge and then immediately hit the stampede once its near entering the green window 🙂

speeds up the time to shatter that first crack

[wicked oracle]

ya came back with a 117k worth of not refine quantanium! Plus i didn't even struggle in slightest.

[cinder osprey]

117k? Jeez

I've done a few runs and I think the most I brought back was 60k unrefined

What was the mass of the rock? And what % was Quantainium? If you don't mind sharing your secrets @wicked oracle :)

[hollow sedge]

@wicked oracle good for you bud! proud!

[wicked oracle]

ya but quantanium is whole different game. you need to deal with it resistance, it super high instability and volatility so you don't explode while carrying it to a refinery

[cinder osprey]

I've got a day and a half to try and earn some money to buy my own Prospector, I should be around 300-400k after what I currently have is done refining

[wicked oracle]

it was a 4500 asteroid, 25-45 %

[cinder osprey]

ah, I found a rock yesterday that I wasn't able to break, I was very depressed

[hollow sedge]

I only bring back a 100% full prospector of 100% quantanium each time. Id mine at hur l3 but refine at cru l1 😄

[cinder osprey]

It was 8k+ mass and 60%+ Quantainium

[hollow sedge]

takes me 15 min to find a 30% or better at 5000 mass

[cinder osprey]

how do you manage that? I don't seem to find quantainium rocks often enough to be picky, everyone has told me to find 1 rock with a good %, mine it then return and refine and repeat

[hollow sedge]

I never have to do my lil trick either cause hte lancet and 1 surge and 1 stampede does well with 5k mass quant

[wicked oracle]

right now in less than 2h of mining i got around 220k of not refine quantinium

[hollow sedge]

@cinder osprey really? 60%?

[cinder osprey]

yeah

I was depressed leaving it

[hollow sedge]

planet side then I assume yes?

[cinder osprey]

Yeah

Calliope I think

[hollow sedge]

hmm

[wicked oracle]

Hur L3 have a lot of quantanium

[hollow sedge]

ty

[cinder osprey]

it was like 8200 mass

62% or something

I really wanted it lol

[hollow sedge]

a lot of experience I guess and a hustle sense of urgency when mining. nothing special I suppose but the strategy I use when scanning for rocks. 🙂

@cinder osprey yea thats a good payday for two prospectors full @ 100%

it only takes 30% at 5000 mass to fill up a prospector with 100% quant

[cinder osprey]

hm, I'm gonna grab food real quick. After that either of you want to show me your mining secrets? ;)

I've done 4-5 quant trips and everytime I've had between 15-40% full storage, never more than 50% though.

[lethal wigeon]

guys i've been trying to find Aaron Halo , impossible? Moved with Delamar in 12.1 ?

[hollow sedge]

I should be helping someone when they get back but tbh Im not doing anything fancy, Im just quick with scanning. I will say this, your ship speed when scanning. theres three short horizontal lines past SCM speed, thats where I set my throttle and I just cruise full speed there from scan result to scan result. I usually make an initial scan at a deposit, or sitting still, and then smaller scans ie 50% as I travel towards a suspected result.

[hollow sedge]

choose only 30% and better at 5000 mass and you will get 100% full load 🙂

[cinder osprey]

yeah I only mine 25%+ already

[hollow sedge]

shatter everythign before extracting. leaves me about 10 min to warp to cru l1 by the time Im done mining

[cinder osprey]

and I do typically cruise full speed when I'm in-space, but planet side thats a bit scarier lol