industrial-professions

[lethal wigeon]

nice one nightman but he can't overclock shields with this

[thorny copper]

I dont find oc shields very efficient atm, but might vary between shields

but yeah if you want headroom for shield oc you want to spend a little more on power

[hollow sedge]

so if i wanna make bounties shall i upgrade my ship

[thorny copper]

also fr66/palisade combo can be pretty nice, I use that on my buccaneer

palisade is a little pricier than 66 tho, I just picked whatever would be cheapest and beginner friendliest p much

[uneven eagle]

Any of the 300 series have a cargo hold?

[thorny copper]

yeah

I would buy another two ship weapons first off

then try another bounty, if you still fail, save up for power and shields

if your alpha is bone stock theres two empty gun hardpoints on the wings

[thorny copper]

they all do, 12scu on 315p, 8scu on 300i and 4scu on 325a/350r

[lethal wigeon]

alternative build with distortion to help going through enemy shields

https://www.erkul.games/loadout/S7N4lKFu

[uneven eagle]

I mean a physical space to set down boxes

[hollow sedge]

how do i upgrade a ship

[uneven eagle]

My mustang technically has cargo space , but I cant do missions that require picking something up

[lethal wigeon]

this question reminds me the mistery of Mustang cargo

[thorny copper]

you can just put them on the floor inside your 300 series ship

works for 3 boxes ez

[uneven eagle]

Okay, so there is space inside the ship to move around

[thorny copper]

could probably fit way more than 3 if you wanted too

yeah all the 300 ships has a bed

[lethal wigeon]

i did this with my 315p

[thorny copper]

and toilet

[uneven eagle]

Imm pretty new so I dont know

I bought the mustang package back in 2014

[thorny copper]

every 300 but the 350r also has a small fridge and a kitchen bench

[uneven eagle]

Thanks for the info

[thorny copper]

mobiglas, the ship icon

[lethal wigeon]

aren't you supposed to use the bay under?

[hollow sedge]

i will be doing bounties to earn some money but i honestly prefeare mining trading and transport

[lethal wigeon]

you will do mining/transport when game is less broken

right now it's crazy

[thorny copper]

I'd probably put it in order of 1. hauling 2. bounties 3. mining personally

[lethal wigeon]

^

[hollow sedge]

whats hauling

[thorny copper]

Cargo

[lethal wigeon]

no actually, hauling requires to mess with sc-trade tools etc

[thorny copper]

trading etc

[lethal wigeon]

the new player just to open mobiglass, select mission and QT jump to location

[hollow sedge]

so shall i do hauling

[thorny copper]

Not really a point with an alpha

[lethal wigeon]

ok so drug smugling

[thorny copper]

You'd want something like freelancer max or larger to make cargo hauling reasonably profitable

[lethal wigeon]

but ending in prison because he didnt know and now wait 5hours because prison is bugged

[thorny copper]

There are some high profit commodities but they are hard to get hold off and risky to sit around waiting for

[lethal wigeon]

so mustang gonna PvE bounties : LRT or something, upgrade ship like we given him , then goes to MRT / HRT and make 150k an hour
now he has money to waste or cargo/mining to try and understand

[hollow sedge]

yes

thats exactly what i wanna do

[thorny copper]

I'd def say your best bet atm is upgrading your alpha to do some pve for fastest and most reliable profit making in current patch

[lethal wigeon]

bonus for bounty hunting , it trains you to move your ship around , gonna have to reful / repair , land at station , eat/drink , QT jump around

[thorny copper]

Trading and even mining is so broken atm its not enjoyable

[lethal wigeon]

it's very nice to understand the beginning

[thorny copper]

Yeah pve is good pilot training

[lethal wigeon]

this is a cargo and mining channel encouraging people to fuck off and go pew pew ! ha love this game

[thorny copper]

Ikr

You don't play this game, it decides what you should play

[lethal wigeon]

gold

in modern society you don't play game, game plays you

[thorny copper]

Its down to the great server gods at amazon what game mode works each day

[hollow sedge]

what was it?

to upgrade the ship?

[green sundial]

tbf all the channels here should be about encouraging people to do what they find the most fun @lethal wigeon

[thorny copper]

https://www.erkul.games/loadout/TL4dvQyB

that should be about 70k, tweaked it a bit for more oc headroom

you could experiment with more weapon setups but its a pretty waterproof rookie setup

and shields about as good as they come for S1

[lethal wigeon]

i simplified where you can buy what he said

because some stations don't have stock ..

[thorny copper]

Nice one, site doesnt seem to have a good overlook of every modules location

At once anyway

[lethal wigeon]

those L3 / L4 / L5 stations, I don't trust them anymore,

[pallid temple]

HUR-L4 doesn't have a Platinum Bay anymore and I have contacted the developer of Erkul many times concerning this and other issues many times

[lethal wigeon]

I understand he only get data from game and massively import it in the website

[pallid temple]

The game files details components and where to buy them all

So it shouldn't be that hard to fix

[lethal wigeon]

I meant he would have to code exception somehow, as it seems right now it's RAW

[uneven eagle]

Can you get better payout delivery missions by doing the 8k payout ones?

[green sundial]

don't know tbh

haven't done many

[formal meteor]

I made multiple trips based on Erkul to find the item wasn't even sold at the location they said it was. I use this one now: https://finder.deepspacecrew.com/

Erkul to pick a build, deepspacecrew to figure out where to buy the parts

[green sundial]

^thats the site I use

[cerulean bridge]

@formal meteor where are you solo mining Quant with the mole that yields >32SCU?

btw, i haven't tried cargo running laranite yet. but is that a limited resource? i.e. if sc trade tools suggests a larinite route and i head there to buy some, they may not have any?

[formal meteor]

HUR-L3. Refining at CRU-L1. sometimes it takes a while to find a rich rock (or a clump of medium rich rocks).

[cerulean bridge]

ya thats where i've been going with my prospector. although i can't say that i find >32SCU of rocks very often. i guess you're more patient :). my strategy is to grab the first decent rock, make the run, and repeat. spend less time looking i suppose

i wish there were more mole-only cluster areas to make taking the mole out with my nephew more fun

[tired lance]

What are the good cat cargo runs right now? Gallog and sc trading are giving me different results

[crimson mantle]

Correct. Especially if the tools have the route outlined in yellow.

[crimson mantle]

I can only say for https://sc-trade.tools, but the site is up-to-date with the latest patch.

[tired lance]

Okay thanks

[formal meteor]

There are no good runs right now. Supply and Demand levels are borked.

[serene vale]

Bought The Avenger Titan How do i store cargo in the cargo hold? do i just set the crates down or is there an actual inventory i can put them in?

[crimson mantle]

If you have crates in your hands, you can just set them in the back part with the ramp.
For store-bought commodities, they will show up in the back on their own.

[meager saddle]

can i trade my nomad in plus money to buy a prospector ?

[bright star]

Huh? You mean can you upgrade to a prospector (with real money)? If that's the case, then yes.

[meager saddle]

yes

[bright star]

yes

[meager saddle]

just wanted to make sure before i spent 50 on it

[bright star]

Yep. It's possible. Just go to "SHIP UPGRADES" on https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge

[meager saddle]

awesome thx

[unkempt quail]

so I got me a cutty black and a roc me and my buddy are wanting to mine for a bit where would everyone recommend?

[bright star]

Aberdeen, Arial, and Daymar. In that order.

You need a Pembroke armor for the first two locations.

[unkempt quail]

i have the novikov

it looks like that but yellow

is that good enough

[bright star]

Nope. Novikov is for cold weather.

Pembroke's for hot.

[unkempt quail]

ohhh

ok

[willow girder]

Well.. I lost my Carrack with 4 Refinery jobs in it. Quantum from bajini point to Area 18. Mistake. And thats why I usually dont go to area 18. I dont trust these cities. I should have flown manually there. And I even thought when I said "jump" for my voiceattack.. "Famous last words".. And yeah blew up. For no reason. xD Fuck Area 18. I will keep selling for ever at microtech.

[elfin cape]

Im getting ready to do some surface mining if anyone wants to come along

[hollow sedge]

hey guys, any tips for dealing with Trading Console issue ? Like can't sell anything and buy anything .

[crimson mantle]

It's a bug 😢
Not much to do about it. You can wait and see if it eventually populates.

[hollow sedge]

Thanks, is it useless to try an another server ? or is it global ?

[bright star]

You can give that a try. But I normally just wait it out.

[hollow sedge]

thanks ! Another question, do you have some tempest glitch too sometimes ? like you cant see anything when you are low ground with your ship around some trading post ?

graphic bug*

[ember star]

Is selling ore bugged? I can’t sell it anywhere

[green sundial]

where are you at?

[cerulean bridge]

@willow girder doh. at microtech i keep getting stuck in the damn tram because the door wont open. usually if i jsut sit on the tram it will eventually open but one time i rode it for 20 minutes before it let me out in the commons. pretty annoying. it appears as though the assets aren't loading fast enough or something sync related

[willow girder]

Land at commons. You can walk in there and sell without landing in hangar

[cerulean bridge]

i'm actually not sure how to do that. guess i need to pay more attention where that is and the entrance of it

maybe i can find a yt video on it

do people ever ram ships parked there?

[willow girder]

I was never rammed there. 🙂 You fly down to NB and then dont to the hangars but to the group of the 3 domes.

There is an entrance

[cerulean bridge]

thx ill check it out

[willow girder]

🙂

Thats why I prefer new babbage for selling. In a big ship it doesnt matter if its 30 or 50 million. its only minutes. And there you dont have to land in hangar for selling and kill yourself and spawn back at the station.

[cerulean bridge]

good point

[willow girder]

😉

[willow girder]

It is bugged. They lowered the starting stock at tradingposts so you can sell the ore now in PTU.

[ember star]

@willow girder yeah I gave up on mining and upgraded to a fighter.

[tired lance]

What are good places for ship mining now?

[willow girder]

I had good luck at Arc L3

[subtle cradle]

I can't even sell half a ship of refined quantanium at CBD Lorville.. is that intended?

[cerulean bridge]

@subtle cradle doesnt sound right. just how much quant is it?

[lavish forge]

So.. is trading just bugged right now?

cant seem to sell anything

[subtle cradle]

@cerulean bridge I sold for just 60k actually so not even a quarter of my cutlass cargo space

It helped to change server. But not for long

[vapid geode]

To my knowledge you prob. just managed to waited out the server tick. Trading allocation is shared across servers

[ornate raptor]

is it possible to rent the prospector

hey yall im gonna rent a prospector should i buy a mining attachment with it as well or is the base one fine?

[cerulean bridge]

@ornate raptor imo get the lancelot mining attachment and go mine quantanium

[mystic bolt]

Hey, looking at trying some mining out, what do i need to start? was considering doing the ship mining

[bright star]

Check the pins for useful links/info.

[mystic bolt]

ooof alot of info there lol

I think i need tomake some more EUC before i can start mining

rty and save up for a prospector

[undone socket]

terminals fixed yet?

[bright star]

Yes and no

[subtle cradle]

Just get the s1 lancet for prospector. The helix sucks now. You can mine up to 6k mass rocks with the lancet no matter what the game tells you in the hot tips lol

[errant vigil]

you cant change the laser on a rental

[indigo junco]

is it possible to get like 1 day ROC?

im poor atm I have a drake

so wondering if I could rent it without buying it at full price

TIA

[errant vigil]

ROC not for rent

[indigo junco]

oh okay thanks!

[errant vigil]

172k to buy a ROC thats easily earned

[manic whale]

you can get it for 3500aUEC/day in refineries

[errant vigil]

that is great i didnt know that thank you

[indigo junco]

so I should do more quests and buy it straight 😮

I'll rent it for fun haha thanks again!

[errant vigil]

if you can afford 3500 try it first

[indigo junco]

i ahve 60k hehe

[subtle comet]

where's the best place to mine with a fully crewed MOLE?

[limber edge]

is dolovine worth sth ? and does the helix laser worth on that ?

[pallid temple]

No

[tardy flower]

@subtle comet https://datastudio.google.com/u/0/reporting/bd9af7c8-708d-4fb1-9a6f-9ccf52a18cb4/page/uQomB

@limber edge in ROC only look for Hadanite. Aberdeen is the place !

[hexed breach]

how do you know if a location base on a moon is safe to land on got a few your tresspassing message

[hollow sedge]

Ive seen my 48.88% quantanium record beat by a 49% ... has anyone found better?

[pallid temple]

The max is 50%

You're pretty close by that point

[worthy spoke]

mining is about winning

racing against 30k

[pallid temple]

....

Not relevant but alright

[worthy spoke]

cargo running?

[pallid temple]

Neither

[river rapids]

Does mining head size currently make a difference? Like helix s1 vs helix s2?

[pallid temple]

The only difference is range

And the size 2 lasers can only go on the MOLE

[river rapids]

Thank you

[hollow sedge]

@worthy spoke you tried

[worthy spoke]

and i got far

but in the end

it doesn't even matter

[hollow sedge]

lolz

touche

[trim sun]

guys, what's going on with the trading mechanics in this game? i can never buy enough of anything worth carrying

[subtle cradle]

I'm having the same problem but with selling refined ore. It often means I'll have to leave my ship in lorville and change servers

And sell little by little

[quartz wyvern]

what ingame credit buyable ship can haul the ROC?

i need the cheapest possible option pls.

[pallid temple]

Cutlass Black

[elder anchor]

Any of you quant miners also mine with stampede?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[elder anchor]

So surge and stampede. Do you take anything else?

[pallid temple]

Optimum

[cerulean bridge]

i find i dont really need addons with a lancet mining head for quant. surge is nice to get things going faster but you can also just be more patient most of the time moving the laser slowly across the rock. optimum is nice to give you a larger green zone if dealing with a particularly volatile rock but with the lancet mining head, not really needed once you have a little skill. imo the lancet mining head is the #1 important item for mining quant

once you get one and get used to it, it's all u need

[willow girder]

You won't be able to crack rocks above 6000 mass with a lancet. You need surge for that and szampede

[fresh estuary]

I haven't played for a long time, is the strat still to run cargo until you can rent a prospector, and then keep renting it until you can buy one?

[pastel flame]

Renting a prospector is ill-advised because you can't change the loadout and put on a better mining head. Save up and buy it from New Deal in Lorville

Cargo is also a bit dodgy for a few reasons regarding bugs, your best bet for UEC grind is bounty hunting. Hurston is my suggestion. If you aren't into BH though there are other options.

[hollow sedge]

does the stock mining head allow for consumables?

x2 yes?

[sharp rune]

Actually...

and I say this often because like no one no's.. but you can put parts on rentals. Tho it is still advised not to because when you die/30k you will lose the part and if you don't unequip when rental ends it will be lost also.

To put components on a rental make sure it is claimed/ not stored anywhere in the verse. Go to your hanger, and use fleet manager there it will be unlocked.

[ornate raptor]

yo
so im mining right and im in a cutlass right and im doing tab and scanning and i find a diamond logo and i hover over it but it doesnt tell me what type of mineral it is like if its hadanite or dolovine or whatever so i have to get out the ship with my roc and scan it and its just a waste of time is it not possible to tell what mineral it is when im in my ship i coulda swore ive seen someone do it with a valk

[sharp rune]

you should be able to scan in any ship. are you hold left mouse button? RMB is just ping. LMB scanner.

[fresh estuary]

I remember hand mining being a thing too, but I'm guessing that's not nearly as profitable if I want to save up for a prospector?

[pastel flame]

@sharp rune Fair point, if they are working hard to save UEC I wouldn't reccommend it but it's better to give them all the information and I definitely have never done that myself!

@fresh estuary That's become ROC mining. You can rent a ROC for like 5k per day, but you'll need a ship that can load one in or risk being way too close to the deposit area. I'm mainly a Bounty Hunter so a ROC miner or a search of the chat here might yield better results

[sharp rune]

@pastel flame Yea I wouldnt recommend it for starters unless ur willing to risk it. Least the Lancet is cheap enough. Wouldnt try with a helix like I did when I started 😛 I found out the hardway xD. But I have sent 100k out to a few ppl to try it themselves

[pastel flame]

You can get them for half price at the refinery facilities

[sharp rune]

Yea that was pre 3.12 tho xD

[subtle cradle]

Where do you even find quan? I'm mining cru L3 atm but quan is rare there

[granite sphinx]

tbh, i dont bother with Quant, can rarely find it in sufficent quantities to fill a cargo hold, so stick to Bex/tara etc

[flint prawn]

There is use the scanner. It sometimes bug though

[granite sphinx]

not going to get 96scu of quant in 15mins

[flint prawn]

Haha true its impossible but if you do get a node with 50% mass of quantanium you have a goldmine there

Mine it last then head back fast

[elder anchor]

What lasers do you use in your mol?

[flint prawn]

i use helix 2 for 3 of my lazer mounts

use brandt, forel, rime for consumables

forel is great for breaking huge mass of ore

rime is a lifesaver

brandt is good for controlling the green zone especially if a agri, hexa, quant, gren bar is small

[granite sphinx]

Helix-Lancet-Helix for me

and Surge-Forel-Brandt on the helix, and Optimum-Forel-Brandt on the lancet

[undone socket]

are the outpost terminals for hadenite working on aerial to sell? or the same as all other terminals

[undone socket]

what is max amount of refining u can do at a time?

on terminal

[pallid temple]

Its as many as you feel like

[undone socket]

so u can have as many as u like currently refining?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[ember star]

Can the ROC fit in the Reliant Kore

[pallid temple]

No

[onyx echo]

how do you resupply consumables, do you need to go back to refineries shops or just repair&restock from the station pad?

[mystic bolt]

How much Cr can you make in a Prospector compared to a ROC, i bought a rOC in game (yet to use it) but i have the funds to get a prospector pledge.

[manic whale]

ROC vs. Prospector vs. BountyHunting are equal for me = 250k/hour . I´m comparing here ROCs material extraction without refining, but need to hustle it around ground with some ship vs. Prospector getting the material quicker, but need of refining + carrying the outcome to buyer and the associated risks vs. BountyH. instant money.

[main saddle]

if you're running a refining job, do you have to leave your prospector at that station? or is the material offloaded when the job starts?

[pallid temple]

The materials are taken out of the ship

[main saddle]

ok, thanks. Seems like Eradicator had put up a video talking about using multiple mining ships, iirc, but maybe I'm mixing something up

[thorny copper]

you can queue several refining jobs at one station

[main saddle]

from a few weeks ago

cool

[thorny copper]

go out fill it up again and return

[main saddle]

i put in my first refining job last night.

btw, the asteroid ring is just inside of Delamar's orbital track. I was prodding distances in QT yesterday. The map shows the ring to the outside of Delamar's orbital track. So, it's about 19Mkm from the ring to Mic L1 at closest

just enough time to carry a load of Quantainium with a Voyage QD

some of the asteroids have FPS minables, but I ain't time for that; as expected, the gems scatter in space 😆

couldn't see where they went until I got back in the ship lol

[green sundial]

the map is wrong

has been for a long time

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/kyln1j/refinery_to_aaron_halo_mining_routes/ check here for distances

[main saddle]

well, a while back, i accidentally exited QT heading from Delamar to Hur L4 and discovered asteroids; so I marked the distance from Delamar. Since, Delamar is leaving, I wondered if I could find more routes. I did so yesterday and figured out where the ring was in the system. My own exploration game loop, as it were

[green sundial]

see above

[main saddle]

yeah, I knew there were some references out there, but this was for fun

[green sundial]

ah

[main saddle]

thanks, though 👍

[green sundial]

np. we're here to help each other

[main saddle]

Wow, they went to town on those routes, huh

belta lowda

[pale cedar]

Hey can someone help me please. I have just started mining with a prospector and I have refined the ore. Now I'm trying to sell it but the ship I have put the cargo in is select able from the drop down menu at lorvile

Isn't sorry

[green sundial]

@pale cedar are you at the admin office or the Central Business District?

I'm late, sorry

you have to sell refined stuff at the CBD or a TDD at New Babbage or A18

[strange burrow]

My friend and I are grinding to be able to afford an Argo Mole. We were wondering if for 2p it was a good choice?

I have yet to get into one in the verse

[willow girder]

Its a good choice even for one person. I solo the mole.

[strange burrow]

Do you mine on moons or the asteroid belt?

[willow girder]

Both

[strange burrow]

I mine usually on Clio but the winds make it hard on the prospector

Can it fight of the winds?

Because solo, you can't control the ship at the same time, right?

[willow girder]

It will beginn to move when winds are strong, yes. mostly i mine now in asteroids

[strange burrow]

👌🏻

For a haul of Argo however, I assume that is is too big for a freelancer to carry after the refinery?

The Argo is 96 scu?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[strange burrow]

Another couple of millions to get them if I want to move the cargo

[pale cedar]

@green sundial what do you mean by CBD and I can't sell them at lorrvile

[green sundial]

central business district. the main trade location in lorville

its where you go buy the hurston weapons on lorville

as far as selling, could just be that server is screwed up

[untold olive]

Trying to sell refined quant at arccorp, how long does it take them to refresh and buy more?

[cerulean bridge]

How do you spawn a roc and get it into your cutlass?

[flint prawn]

at mining facility at daymar has a summonable terminal look for "mining facility @@@"

once your there you can summon one and have fun daymar , yela is a good planet for roc cause the fields are just ideal for roc

[cerulean bridge]

Do you spawn and park your cutlass first somewhere?

[main saddle]

Find the Platinum Bay building and two blue landing pads and land near them (not on them). Go inside the Platinum Bay building and there are terminals to spawn your ROC; then drive it off the pad to your ship.

[tepid hawk]

Is hauling not good now? I hauled a lot in 3.11 and made a lot of money but all day I haven't been able to even fill my cat.

global stock nerfed?

[reef narwhal]

Totally nerfed

[cinder steppe]

It's more broken then nerfed

[thorny copper]

Theres a bug that people keeps exploiting that's been rendering most trading useless for weeks now

[rotund swallow]

where is terminal to sell mining ore at Port Olisar?

[thorny copper]

gone, moved to CRU-L1

or other L1 stations

[flint prawn]

when you enter the lobby you get a small counter on the right theres a small terminal there good luck

[knotty basin]

Any mining orgs

[forest mesa]

@knotty basin if u find one lmk

[crimson mantle]

Look into #718297169945165845

[tepid hawk]

So is mining/bounty hunting pretty much the only way to make money anymore? Also do you have to refine the ROC mineables?

[valid roost]

Yes and no @tepid hawk

You can haul cargo but always uncertainty in it

[tepid hawk]

No I mean like, I haven't found anywhere with in stock profitable materials in the past 2 days now

I know 30k's can happen but I'm talking trade terminals being empty every time

[valid roost]

Yeah when they "fixed" the terminals they broke supply demand backend

Like it's nearly impossible or buy missles right now. Only ever find 1 in stock

[tepid hawk]

I hope they fix it soon, it was hard enough to fill a cat with cargo in 12.11

3.11*

[valid roost]

HES FROM THE FUTURE

Servers any more stable in 12.11?

[tepid hawk]

[elder anchor]

what QT drive do you mol drivers use?

[opaque iron]

I use the XL-1, need the speed to get the quantanium to refinery in time

[elder anchor]

thx

[mystic bolt]

Lancet S2 best mining head for a prospector?

[pallid temple]

The Prospector doesn't use s2 lasers

[mystic bolt]

size 2? the ste says it can use a size 2 mining laser?

is that not the same as S2 or is that somethign different./

[pallid temple]

Word of advice, don't look at the RSI Ship Matrix

[mystic bolt]

haha ok, how do i find out in game?

[pallid temple]

The Prospector has a gimbal mount attached to it, which means the size mount goes down by 1

[mystic bolt]

ahh right

[pallid temple]

So a gimbal mount in a s2 slot will take it down to a s1 mount

[mystic bolt]

so can i make it a non gimballed and use a S2?

[pallid temple]

No

[mystic bolt]

aww

so a S1 i need to find then :d

[pallid temple]

In reality there's basically zero difference between a s1 and a s2 laser

Well no difference that's actually useful

[mystic bolt]

ok

ok so my Q, a S1 lancet the best head to get?

[pallid temple]

Its not the best, but its the best choice to go for

[mystic bolt]

is there a specific head for specifc materials or something?

[mystic bolt]

what consumables should i use with a helix?

[vapid geode]

hello, is there any way to find out if an outpost actually have a designated landing pad

[alpine bridge]

Sometimes if you try to hail them they will say they don’t accept ur ship size but u can still refuel and repair/rearm. Just look for anything with a landing pad. I don’t know to much about this.

I’ve only been playing sc for a month

[vapid geode]

that hail you have is more likely to be vehicle parking

[alpine bridge]

Yea

[sharp rune]

Well in my experience the only pads that fuel u at outposts is the biggest of the 2 pads. If there is only a smaller one its never fueled me only the biggee one does.

[opaque iron]

I've only been able to refuel at an outpost once in almost a year of trying

[sharp rune]

Closest thing to 50% Quantainium that I've found and remembered to screen shot 😛 found a 49% once.

[forest mesa]

Thats a big money rock nice !!

[elder anchor]

how do you update prices in sc-trade.tools?

cuz ahh... according to the site I should be making around 103k trading titanium with a cat but I only made 4k

[pliant matrix]

sc trade tool is managed by someone I don't thunk you can freely change prices.
Also ingame prices are always different than on the site since it fluctuate with demands

[elder anchor]

gotchya

[forest mesa]

LF 2-4 people to join ROC mining OP later (in about 2 hours) well be flying around in 2 Cutty's both with 2 ROC's on board droping/picking them up and rotating to achieve maximum proficiency should be a pretty good payout for everyone involved
DM me if interested !

[crimson mantle]

You can check the F.A.Q. on that 😄
https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq

Essentially the prices on the website are always the "most optimistic" ones, because CIG doesn't let us access the LIVE data 😢

If you hover over the aggregate prices, you can compare with what the terminals tells you and decide if it's worth it (https://i.imgur.com/AZ0yqUP.png).

*Works for both buy and sell prices

[elder anchor]

thx for the info, much appreciated!

How does trading if someone else pilots the craft, even though I own it and run to the terminals, will it show up under me or for the pilot?

[pallid temple]

The owner

[elder anchor]

alright thx

[green sundial]

from new PTU notes:
"Increased inventory and refresh rate of all shop items to reduce the frequency that items run out of stock"

[crimson mantle]

That's great news! I'll prepare the patch soon, so it goes LIVE as the same time as the build 😉

[mystic bolt]

I had my refined minerals sent to my cutty which was stored, how do i checkto make sure the cargo is in the hsip?

[flint prawn]

once your cutty is stored it will auto fill the cargo depending on how many you refine.

[mystic bolt]

it was already stored then when i retreived it, it was empty :/

[flint prawn]

its bug XD

[mystic bolt]

boo

luckily it wasnt a good haul

[flint prawn]

but your cargo is still there

!!

you can still sell that invisible cargo

when you already place your refine items from refinery to cutty

but double check always

[mystic bolt]

the ship has now been stored again, i think thatdeletes the cargo doesnt it?

[flint prawn]

rfinary terminal select which ship to store and check on terminal again

did you claim ? if claim then yes cargo lost

[mystic bolt]

ive not had to claim it, it says retreive again

[flint prawn]

ah its stored XD

[mystic bolt]

does the cargo number change when its got cargo in it or is it showing max cargo?

[flint prawn]

number change depending on how many you stored in your cutty .

[mystic bolt]

its showing 46 😦

[flint prawn]

4600 SCUs

if you have greater then that you cant store it

you need a bigger ship

[mystic bolt]

i have 32 bu the number hasnt changed so it means theres no cargo in there?

[opaque iron]

Fly your cutty to a spaceport and go to a trade terminal. Your cargo should be in the ship

[flint prawn]

ahhhhhh make sense

y

[mystic bolt]

which spaceport?

[flint prawn]

you have 32 ACU

[opaque iron]

Whichever is closest

Where are you at right now?

[flint prawn]

but his ship can only Hold 32

[mystic bolt]

what do the trade terminals lok like and where can they usually bne fouind?

[flint prawn]

TDD XD

[mystic bolt]

in HUR L1 atm

[opaque iron]

Ok, so go down to lorville with the cutty, cause that's the ship you put the cargo on, correct?

[mystic bolt]

aye

[opaque iron]

Ok, so after you land, take the green train to the central business district, or CBD for short. After you get there take the left inside the building that says Transfers above the door

You'll find a big room that has stock displays on the wall and that is where the terminals are

And just to be clear, you did not claim your ship after putting the cargo into it, correct?

[mystic bolt]

correct

[opaque iron]

Ok, so you should see your cargo listed on the trade terminal after you get there then

[mystic bolt]

ok

[opaque iron]

The no physical cargo is a graphical bug

Usually... lol

It is Star Citizen after all

[mystic bolt]

ok i got to lorville, hailed but not seing a location to dock although its accepted my docking

[opaque iron]

Are you over the spaceport?

[mystic bolt]

itsa showing now

[opaque iron]

There should be an icon showing which hanger to land in

Ok, good

[mystic bolt]

its all there

tyvm for the help

think i made about 4k off that haul 😄

oh no more like 7k 😄

if only there servers were stable, could mine for a week and do one haul after refining 😄

i fi have a ship with cargo on it, and i store it, does the cargo stay there even if i log off?

[opaque iron]

Yes, the cargo should stay there

[mystic bolt]

thats good to know

[opaque iron]

My Caterpiller has been in storage for almost a week while I slowly sell the cargo

[mystic bolt]

why wait aweek to sell?

[opaque iron]

Because it only lets me sell like 5 scu at a time and refreshes every 10-20 minutes

It's a shop inventory issue

They don't have enough inventory or refresh rate to handle all of the people trading across all of the servers

Since all servers are connected to one inventory

[mystic bolt]

ahh right ok

[flint prawn]

even my mole with helix2 cant break this thing :/

being here for 20 mins and still not moving LOL

[river rapids]

What’s the highest %quant you guys have seen on whole rocks?

[flint prawn]

40%

at hurl3 but its really rare . and damn not easy to break

[pallid temple]

The max is 50%

[river rapids]

Thank you

[sharp rune]

49%. Yet to see anything at 50% 🤔

[river rapids]

Is 890 jump cargo still bugged?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[opaque iron]

I’ve found that having a second crew member using a lancet works for all rocks that I’ve come across

[vale sun]

alright I know this isnt the help area but I bought a ROC lastnight right after I closed my game before hopping off now in game it is showing up as a second cutlass black which I have only one of and i cant retrieve it either any ideas on a fix? i tried verifying game files, restarting game, to no avail

[meager saddle]

@vale sun mine did that also , retrieve cutty black 2 , if it still says can't claim then pick a different ship and go to another station. It happens to me and that is what I do to fix it.

[teal crater]

what is the main use for the MSR? unsure myself

[bright lotus]

right now it seems like cargo/transport. it does have the "secert" compartment to hide cargo in. I assume the servers will be used later down the road to other type of missions?

[vale sun]

GOT MY ROC THANKS! :3

that other cutty black was still showing up too for some reason

[hard breach]

Any ideas what ship I could buy. I’m searching for a ship with a lot of scu and which can store a roc (for mining). Should cost 1-2mil^^

[crimson mantle]

There aren't that many options:

• Cutlass Black, 1.3M
• Freelancer MAX, 2.1M

[vale sun]

@hard breach I've got a cutlass black if you would like to add me and check it out in person DM me

[bright lotus]

how much space do you lose with the ROC in there @vale sun

[vale sun]

id say it takes a 3rd of the bay being you could fit about 3 roc's snugly

[bright lotus]

happen to know how much SCU you lose? I know with my connie when i put the rover in there i go from 96 to 12

[pallid temple]

You lose about 20 SCU

In a Cutlass Black

[vale sun]

gotcha where would a guy check yesterday was my first day in like 3 years

[bright lotus]

good to know @pallid temple

there might be other methods but if you go to a trade terminal you will see that

[pallid temple]

You can check by parking a ROC in there, and then going to a trade terminal

[vale sun]

gotchga

[bright lotus]

ok one more question, if you have a ROC or a rover packed in a ship and you put cargo in it, will it auto adjust everything to fit, or is there a high chance it will spawn under the rover and flip it in the bay?

[pallid temple]

It'll adjust it accordingly

[bright lotus]

ok thanks, never really know right now

[vale sun]

had a bit of a mis-hap lol

[wet shadow]

question, how does one get to the asteroid mining belt from arc-L1?

[dusky fjord]

when you hit some rocks 😄

[bright lotus]

just means less mass for the ship right. Saves on fuel @vale sun

[vale sun]

facts

[bright lotus]

my rover when i tried to bring it to my friends ship so we dont have walk so much at trading post . Oh Hurston and your invincible cactus and some times hard rocks

[vale sun]

anyone looking to join up on a cutlass black? waiting for a buddy to hop on

[vale sun]

delivery boi life

[vale sun]

today has been a hard day on the cutty

[mystic bolt]

and my first 30k with a refined haul 😦

[deep robin]

can you switch minig head from rented?

[pallid temple]

No

[hollow sedge]

I totally recommend roc mining

More profitable than normal mining

[tepid river]

Hey guys, jumped onto the server to look for mining advice.
I recently rented out a MISC Prospector to see what asteroid mining is like and, whilst I enjoyed the game play loop, the returns seemed to be super super low when compared to (e.g.) ROC mining. Is this everyone's experience or am I doing something wrong?

[hexed breach]

when roc mining you just get dolvine or hadinate and just sell
as for prospector mining you have to refine the ore to double the value give to take

[tepid river]

@hexed breach Thanks for the reply, I've tried refining with the prospector, still waiting on a job to complete with that to see what I make. For the ROC mining I've tried going to a few of the Shubin mining outposts but I only seem to find the large rocks that the ROC can't crack. Any advice on finding good deposits?

[hexed breach]

that is just luck other day all I found was small ones for roc in the prospector
as for finding good ore there are links posted here for resources which give most value just need to find them

[tepid river]

Thanks, I'll have a watch/read of the pinned posts at lunch!

[teal crater]

if it's wasn't a buggy vehicle, yes

[hollow sedge]

Its not that buggy

[tepid river]

I'll admit a lot of my experience in the ROC has been the tyres clipping through the planet and then the vehicle getting stuck on its side

[green sundial]

these may be of some use to some of you new to mining:
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-complete-test-squadron-mining-guide-v3-12.18373/
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-test-refinery-deck-refinery-guide-v3-12.18413/
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-test-mining-guide-supplement-3-12.18389/

[deep robin]

is there a bug when you mine with prospector you lose your mined items

?

[opaque iron]

As in they turn to inert material, or just gone gone?

[deep robin]

just gone i got gold and inert and the gold disapeared

[onyx echo]

are there any good alternatives to Caterpillar currently in-game?

[tepid hawk]

C2 won't be purchasable ingame but is coming relatively soon. Besides that is the carrack.

Is roc mining literally the only good way to make money in 3.12 jeeeeeez

I miss hauling lmao

[onyx echo]

Thanks. Yeah, asteroid mining seems poor earnings...

[late flume]

This game is extremely frustrating ... in 1 week I have not made any aUec more than 20k ... every time I use my prospector and find a reasonable asteroid ... I get 30k or pirate killed at the station. Today I finally get a good Quaint asteroid only to 30k at the station after my avatar gets clipped in the prospector chair and I couldnt get out of it. uhg!

so for the good part 8) I spawn at the refinery, was able to refine the quant ... the 30k actually save me. LOL

[rancid bane]

Some days are better than others keep trying. Some days I never experience a 30k, others I get 1 every 20 minutes. It can be rough

[late flume]

hehe yeah thanks for letting me vent. I have 2 weeks into the game and have learned alot quickly. I just got lucky and found enough to get 32 Scu of Quant. So this will help 8)

When you refine, what is the best for the buck method? I couldn't do the Pyrometrics method because I don't have enough credits and chose the Dinyx one ... is the only difference the money over time?

[deep robin]

guys where do i sell refine items?

[late flume]

I believe Area 18, Lorville and New Babbage

[deep robin]

thx

[deep robin]

best roc mining planet guys?

[vapid geode]

aberdeen and arial. Just watch out for the troll players hunting

[dusky fjord]

witch ship can load two ROC miners?

[austere creek]

I'm quite sure the Max can.

[pliant matrix]

cutlass too but it's tighter. msr for sure can take two or maybe three

[sharp rune]

Valk can load 4

Nice size cargo/vehicle hold on it 🙂

[pliant matrix]

valk cargo is pretty small considering it's size. but for vehicule transport yeah it's nice

[sharp rune]

Thats what I meant. Compared to a lot of cargo holds in terms of vehicles. Unless its a designated "cargo/transport ship" chances are it wont have a great "cargo" SCU anyway but for storing rocs.. its fairly big

[atomic dune]

if i am refining material from my ship do i have to wait for it to finish before i can use it?

[pallid temple]

No

[opaque iron]

The pyro method is fast, but gives you the least amount of stuff back. The dinyx is the slowest but cheapest and you get the most material back making it the most profitable. You just have to be patient and wait a couple days for it to finish

@late flume here’s a good reference sheet

[opaque iron]

The material gets unloaded and taken to the refinery, you are free to use your ship after you’ve put the work order in

[opaque iron]

The freelancer, freelancer max, cutty black(can potentially take three, but haven’t tested the theory we had) and pretty much anything bigger than those, in terms of cargo bay

[dusky fjord]

thank you

[opaque iron]

Np

[late flume]

Awesome thanks, I have that spreadsheet 8) ty for the suggestions. patiently waiting now.

[pliant matrix]

three on cutty black? maybe by letting the arm out on the side doors but out of that it's not possible

[opaque iron]

As I said, we haven’t tested our theory

[fossil swallow]

Anyone else have issue of refined minerals saying they transfered to ship but in realty they disappear

[undone socket]

any have any idea when 3.12.1 will be dropping?

[crimson mantle]

They've been patching PTU once a day this week, but who knows when the patch will be deemed good enough for LIVE (https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/190048?page=1&sort=newest)

[proud shuttle]

Havent played in a few weeks, is selling hadanite still iffy?

[deep robin]

onyone roc mining?

[vital glen]

Hey im just about to buy a prospector im like 500k off

just wanted to know any vets got tips for me when it comes to the new refining process and how to make the most money?#

[subtle cradle]

Like it wasnt stupidly hard to make money mining already with all the disconnects and sparse materials... now my prospector has started to magically turn quantanium into inert materials every few seconds

[vital glen]

so if thats not working what is?

[manic whale]

is the cargo listed as inerts in refinery console also?

[subtle cradle]

I went to the refinery anyway and it turned out it was all still quantanium. So I could refine it all.. glad I went there instead of rage quitting

That was 100% quantanium as well. Dont even know how much money that is

[manic whale]

🙂 ...better to come back and write here for others the whole thing next time.

[subtle cradle]

That's what I did wasn't it?

Dunno what you're on about

[hexed breach]

anyone can tell me whats the wait time to sell ore on large planets?

[vapid geode]

Actually, you can only sell raw ore in refineries, and I dont think there is any wait time.
If you sell refined commodities, wait time depends on how many ppl you compete with. You can try to time a server tick which is about 3~8min. Each tick you could potentially sell 300~1300 units of quant in my experience.

[subtle cradle]

Time vs money-wise I dont even think refining is worth it mining and refining quantanium. Could've made double the money with bounties easily. However selling the ore raw might compete with bounties

[vapid geode]

Would say depends on how quickly you need the money. If you consider cargo hauling refinery product as another 1x quant ore income. A big refined quant selling is basically multiple times more efficient in generating revenue than mining the quants. This assumes you have a big enough hauler like connie or freelancer MAX.

[hollow sedge]

Hey did they ever fix the trading consoles?

[vapid geode]

On the selling side I dont think it is that bad, quant isn't very heavily congested, and I would say it probably wouldnt take an hour to sell all 96 SCU quant on connie. The operation is simple enough during selling that you gain time watching video or do other tasks, unlike mining that requires full attention

[subtle cradle]

Your ship inventory wouldn't matter at all since you're limited by how much you can sell. I can carry more than I have patience to sell 30,000 units at the time on my little cutlass.

Selling raw ores is definately more profitable in regard to time spend

[vapid geode]

I would say cutlass can only carry 1 full refinery order, then you would have to take a cargo trip for each refinery order. I would say that is a lot of time lost on cargo hauling instead of selling more on a terminal.

[subtle cradle]

How does it matter that I haul less cargo when I can't even sell 1/4 of it?

[vapid geode]

You don't need the catepillar cuz you probably wont mine 500 SCU quant b4 you sell. So sth like connie/freelancer would give a more optimized selling

[vapid geode]

Then you are assuming selling refined ores are always congested. In the case it is not congested it is entirely plausible selling 64 SCU under the entire hauling trip time say 20min. That is at least 2~3x more efficient than the ore mining process, even on a quick find on prospector

[subtle cradle]

Okay I have never tried it not being congested then. Sounds nice lol

I wouldn't plan my day on the TDD not being congested tho since it has never happened to me

[hexed breach]

Ty!

[vapid geode]

The point is you sell multiple refinery order in one cargo hauling run, thereby you are making the second half of profit in one huge sell really quick

[subtle cradle]

No I am not? Cus I have to either wait for the terminal to decide to take more of my goods or change servers which involves 10 minutes of train riding

And only then have I ever been able to sell 1/3 of a full prospectors refined quantanium at one time

[vapid geode]

I think you tunnel visioned a lot about the selling wait time, which I have already explained about how the TDD condition isn't so bad even in current 3.12 trading. Unless selling 32 SCU quant takes 1hr, I would rather sit on chair and wait 8 min to go to look at TDD repetedly, and the moment you land your cargo is 100% 30k proof

On prospector if 30k hits on you any time, it is at least a 10min loss trying to reboard the ship and your search/cargo progress is definitely lost

[subtle cradle]

Ok I might be sorry. I'll try and keep an open mind. So you reckon I should wait around at TDD and wait for them to restock?

[vapid geode]

I recognize that user experience could differ, and cargo hauling always have the risk of losing all goods to 30k.
I would say either wait at TDD for tick, or occationally visit the terminal when you believe it is less congested. Cuz your cargo is always at the station as long as you dont do another trip again.

Though I really do recommend you should actually time and compare the time it takes for prospector mining and the time to sell. Then you would be very confident whether ore selling and TDD selling is your preferred choice

[subtle cradle]

I have. I can pretty reliably fill a prospector with quan in 30 min. Atm.
I havent timed refining and delivering tho.

[vapid geode]

btw you experience with laranite/agricium may differ cuz you are also competing with catepillar owners. You would need to be a bit more careful with selling those

[subtle cradle]

I only do quantanium atm, but thx for the tip

[vapid geode]

Why C2 hercules has such a small crew profile compared to connie/caterpillar? Is the minimum crew for C2 1 or 2? When would the min crew size be actually enforced in game in terms of trading?

[bright lotus]

I don't believe min crew will ever be "enforced" all ships can work with one person. they just put those min crew number down as the minimum you will need to use full function of the ship.

[flint prawn]

having server crash often then most cant even mine properly 😦 is the server getting better next patch ??

[crimson mantle]

In the next patch, they had to remove a planet and reduce the player cap by 20% to make space in the server's memory for the event.
I'd bet it won't be much better, but we'll see!

[vapid geode]

You will just have to go back and sell when you mined two or three ore groups. In my experience ROC laser can sometimes act weird from unknown bugs anyways

[pastel umbra]

I've recently purchased a Caterpillar to give trading runs a try, but is trading not worth while at the moment??

I'm trying to use the SC Trade tools calculator, but whenever I go to a destination I can't fill my available space compared to how much the calculator suggests buying.

[wind summit]

No, trading is dead atm. mining and bounties are aboutt he only thing

[tame elbow]

Are you the creator?

[crimson mantle]

I am the developer of SC Trade Tools (https://sc-trade.tools), yes.

[tame elbow]

Neat. Like your site

❤️

[pastel umbra]

Super! Glad I just spent half my savings on a catapillar 😂

[subtle cradle]

Trading is VERY bad atm. I dont even bother refining ores anymore. I just sell them raw.
Even buying food and drinks can be hard sometimes because there's no stock.

[clear zinc]

so far ive been lucky with trading and not having 30ks while trading.. then again tend to do short routes.. but yeah same with ores mine a bit and then sell immidiatly

[clear zinc]

I feel ya also got a caterpillar...

[crimson mantle]

They allegedly made some fixes relating to the inventory levels for 3.12.1. I haven't seen anything different in the PTU patches so far, but time will tell!

[pastel umbra]

In theory if I got on a quiet server, or one where no one was trading, would it be possible to fill a cat with a decent load from a single location?

[clear zinc]

I found some stuff can trade, scrap always seemed to work 😄 or some gases or minerals

but then again I'm still fairly new to the game soo don't know it all

[wind summit]

the servers store inventories are supposedly linked even though you aren't on the same server as the others. You're competing with everyone else on every other server.

so no, not likely unless its right after a major patch/reset.

[pastel umbra]

That will explain why the stock levels in a store changed before my eyes today when I was waiting for a server tick.

[ember beacon]

Can all ships scan for minable materials on planets now?

[crimson mantle]

Yes, and equally well too!

(If you want to pick up ROC minables, you have to fly fairly low. For hand minables, even more so.)

[ember beacon]

Your information is invaluable, we are going to rent the carrack @crimson mantle

Thank you so much

We are broke, but excited to try a new ship

[crimson mantle]

Don't forget: you usually don't have to go far to sell ROC minables: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Hadanite

(or better yet: https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer with a location filter)

[valid roost]

I realize someone replied to this and quite well, Some extra roc mining pointers though:

Cruise around 100m off the ground at 60-80m/s, in Vtol mode if your ship has it

Scan at 1x with 100% full power scans

Do all this further than 100km or more from a qt-able location to avoid grief

Giant boxes you can see from 2+ km out - just ignore, they are all ship mining nodes, you want the small to medium sized boxes you can pickup from ~1500m away

Ignore nodes on tough to get places/ on mountain sides you'll spend more time getting to the nodes/back or chasing down pieces that rolled down the hill than it'll take you to find another node/s. Only real exception is the 6+ node spawns

[marble raft]

Newbie here. I’m trying to do some trading with my new cutlass black I just bought. I’m using sc trade tools but not one time has it been accurate. It will say buy 250 slam here...I go there and can only buy 27slam...spend an hour to my 500uec.....now I did a bigger run and bought 311 widow and I’m trying to sell at grim hex. I can only sell 2-3 every 5 minutes, sometimes every 10-20 minutes. This is rediculous. This is ultimately a video game to enjoy but why am I just standing infront of a screen for hours to not loose the money it took me so long to make. Is there anything that I can do. I was doing deliveries and getting 8000uec in 30-45 minutes of play.

[bright lotus]

@marble raft
The supply and demand system got screwed over on this version (or for the past few versions, not sure), they said they adjusted some stuff for 3.12.1 which is in the test server right now. Cargo runs are a pain right now.

As for sc trade tool it reads static game file data and not the live data (due to no access) so what it says can be off depending on the current market supply and market. Since all the inventories are tied together server to server one person can screw everyone over right now.

Best bet is to either store your ship and fly something else until its fixed or take the lose and avoid most supply runs until next patch

It took me better part of 3 days to sell off 300k worth of supplies at Grim Hex

[clear zinc]

Well what I did waa find good trase routes that always seem to work. And there are mostly for smaller ships like your cutlass! and so far teadong has been good for me. even the few little one runs I did with myy caterpillar

[vapid geode]

How effective is MOLE at mining quantum assuming there is a multiplayer crew

How does that compared to mining non-quantanium but bigger rocks

[azure prawn]

It depends on the mining heads @vapid geode

[reef bear]

Two of us were mining in my MOLE and both used Helix II heads. Did two quite large rocks with 40%-ish of Quantanium quite easily. It was difficult with the small optimum charge area though.

[vapid geode]

Really?! No lancelet?

what is the size of quant?

I mean mass

[sharp rune]

I feel like just need to have different inventories/terminals for selling refined materials vs just trading. Like whats the point of the admin office trade panels anymore? TDD should be should be for either refined mats or trading and admin for the other with separate inventories might help?

I just feel like people who have spent all week mining/refining/filling a ship shouldn't have to struggle to sell that material because of people just spamming out trade runs xD

[vapid geode]

cuz they are the same commodities? Rn there is no resource drain/proper supply demand so it doesn't seem to make sense, and that would be implemented in future

And yeah mining any material other than quant would mean bigger competition against those traders

[sharp rune]

but I mean the difference is a person can jump in a cat and go buy out some laranite go sell/trade and repeat much quicker then a person refining/mining to fill a ship.

Or maybe take away the tradeables that are minable and increase value of some of the other tradeables? Idk im just thinking of ideas the help improve both sides of trading/mining xD

[vapid geode]

lower profit margin for each mine they sell tho cuz they need to purchase the rock first

I think it is mainly cuz trading is fuked this patch

I suppose the next patch would be better

Early Jan there wasn't that big of frustration for me

[sharp rune]

yea much lower, but I mean if you can do it x amount of times in an hour or 2. But thats what I am hoping the patch helps to fix 🙂

its the same kind of idea if you want to sell raw materials its like half the value of refined even with a small loss in refining,

but anyway we'll see what the up coming patch does or doesn't fix first

[reef bear]

Can't remember the exact size but I have 3 Helix on my MOLE as I think they work well on most rocks using just one. Two combined can crack anything I have encountered but, depending on the rock I can slowly but surely crack a rock with a mass of around 7.2 with 1 Helix. It was a lot easier before they changed things but I like the challenge....

[sharp rune]

Helix isn't as good no, Ive used it at the start of prospecting, but after trying the lancet with stampede, optimum, and surge, there hasn't been a thing I cant break/mine, without issue. The helix was always too unstable for Q - its do-able but why bother when that lancet setup is EZ mode.

I tried testing the helix with Brandt too hoping it'd react more like the lancet does with Q and still wasnt nearly as "smooth"

[icy frigate]

i did my first mining run today, (ROC) and after 2 hours i made 50k .. am i doing something wrong or am i just really unlucky that it took me a hour and a half just to find my first minable option?

[crimson mantle]

Depends where you're mining, as not all places have the same amount of rocks: https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Greycat%2520ROC%2522,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%255D%257D
Also, you have to fly pretty low to pick up the ROC deposits 🙂

[icy frigate]

im mostly at aberdeen

[strange burrow]

@icy frigate i heavily suggest renting a prospector, you should be able to easily make 100k per hour, just mine what is green on that list

Also get the Lancet head, with stampede, optimum and either lifeline(sp?) or surge. My go to for moon mining is Clio in Microtech, pretty decent.

For mining in the Aron Belt, you can use the multiple guides for mining between Hurston and ArcCorp, but I prefer to make my own way to it to nullify the risks of being attacked by pirates. I go from Crusader to ARC L3 and stop before I pass the orbit of Delmar. That puts you at 6mil from CRU L1 to go refine your stuff.

[crimson mantle]

I can also suggest this list of minables and their prices, which stays up-to-date with the patches of the game 🙂 https://sc-trade.tools/ores/MISC Prospector or Argo Mole

[late flume]

@strange burrow thats exactly what I started to do because of the return route distance for Quant to a refinery. +1

very consistent profitability

How is the number for Quantanium determined at 88 ... i refined my first this week for 80? was there somewhere else it wouldve been 88? may not be able to see it but thats 80 listed there. This was NB

[willow girder]

You are right. That's because the stock in pu is always full. So the price drops. They fixed that in ptu.

[late flume]

ok ty

[astral oasis]

Hello everyone. I'm looking to really get into mining and cargo hauling. I know terms are kinda fucked rn, but is there any groups here or orgs who I can associate with to learn more about the game? Looking to make some big bank and be a major helper in my org to help our recruits get some badass ships. My handle is x-Rambler-x. Send me a dm on here if anyone would be willing. I play anywhere from 7pm central to around 7am central.

[undone socket]

any news on 3.12.1? when we expecting it

[hollow sedge]

Next friday

[sharp rune]

Yea I always get various prices between 80-88 It took me a couple times to realize it wasn't me

[subtle cradle]

I'm still making decent money just selling the quantanium raw. Wouldn't bother refining it

[candid temple]

sry, i haven't playing in about 7 months, but was wondering if drug running was possible again. bc i remember all the black market terminals were broken for the longest time

[forest mesa]

In an org right now that pretty active on Mining->Refining->Cargo Hauling were looking for active players to join the Ops payouts are fair as well(ships not required) DM me if interested

[errant vigil]

hi to all . has anyone else having trouble with laser on ROC. mine stopped working also no extraction beam. couldnt get it figured out so i bought another ROC anf found that one is behaving the same. i have been mining with the ROC for some time with no problem. this is ocurring in PTU and PU . any suggestions welcome ta

[sharp rune]

BLEH.. that hurts my brain! Isn't the raw only 40uec a piece? I feel like that is such a waste tho... I can toss up a ton of orders, fill 3 ships and still have more orders. If I sold what I just made today raw. I wouldn't of seen 4.5 mil in 3 days. I'd of been lucky to see 2.. for all the time..

such a waste of great material 😦

I wouldnt say thats too great when u do the math, considering your losing half xD. Depending how long it takes you to find Q and bring it back. I can get it every 20-30 mins. Thats 6200 @80-88 or 6400 @ 40...

[errant vigil]

hello again does anyone have an answer for me about ROC laser not working

[sharp rune]

do you see any animations for the laser/ collector?

[errant vigil]

the roc functions 100% just no laser beam or extraction beam

[sharp rune]

cant tell yea then. Ive had it where the roc modes switch and even tho it says extraction mode it act like fraction mode and vice versa. All I can tell ya is try deleting your shaders folder in the LIVE-User game folder

G:\Roberts Space Industries\StarCitizen\LIVE\USER

[errant vigil]

thx i tried that already it is two ROCS i changed nothing they where both working 2 days ago

[sharp rune]

good luck! I loved roc mining but 3.12 its become to buggy so I gave up 🙂 prospecting is smoother with bugs

[errant vigil]

thx uhtred i have been ROCCING for quite a while and it has worked great until now i,ll try a few more things and raise a ticket

[placid vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CvNJSUj_io

[meager saddle]

@sharp rune , nice haul

[manic whale]

Do I smell an ingame bought ships wipe cause of this? 😄 @placid vine

[placid vine]

who knows, I don't think they will though, its not like millions of aUEC matters that much over all since we are in alpha,

[nova tinsel]

There have been bugs like this for a long time, some people have like infinite money

[manic whale]

yeah ...and then you remember all those players here asking how to get into cave to make some money ..like in real life 🙄 ..I know it´s just alpha intended for testing, but I think it will be in this state for another few years and some players take it as a done, working game with great support, lot of patches and updates, just expanding more and more.

[placid vine]

They could just set people to 15mil

like they do in the PTU

if they wanted to clean out some of the excess money, but the real issue is that since there isn't really a player economy being able to buy stuff from npcs makes reseting because of some money exploit not as urgrent

[thorny copper]

yeah I don't think they see much point in wiping, once they figure this one out theres likely one or several new ones waiting to be discovered

[candid temple]

anyone know roughly how long the reset time is for grim hex and selling etam

[crimson mantle]

Assuming things work the way they should (and they do not right now), 1 SCU/10 mins, shared across all servers: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/E'tam

Consider going to Hurston > Reclamation & Disposal Orinth

[fossil swallow]

is next patch fixing invetory levels for trading?

[crimson mantle]

They said they had a fix, yes. I haven't seen any change in the data, but maybe they just made it so it behaves as it should. We'll see 🙂

[errant vigil]

hi does anyone have a working ROC or are they all glitched

[azure prawn]

Gonna try to do a cargo run. I hope it works

[errant vigil]

there must be someone having trouble with the ROC laser not working

[azure prawn]

wait for the power to fully go up?

[errant vigil]

no difference power up or down , no laser beam no extraction beam

there is an open ticket for it i just wondered if anyone had a workaround as i have run out of ideas

[lean heart]

Best planet for mining with roc?

[crimson mantle]

Aberdeen or Arial: https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Greycat%2520ROC%2522%257D

[ashen burrow]

I would pick deymar as there you can find hadanite. It spawns only on hot planets/moons

[ashen burrow]

I think it is just that particular vehicle have glitched. Try to buy a new one

[ashen burrow]

I got 2 ROC's and both are working fine except the front door is opening sometimes but it does not affect the mining process somehow 🙂

[bold laurel]

wtf is this launcher limitating my internet?

[green lichen]

Can confirm, same happened to me this AM

[deep robin]

lancet best overall laser?

[green sundial]

yes

for now

[deep robin]

best cooler for prospector?

[thorny copper]

stock one is plenty good enough for anything

[pallid temple]

Well yes but actually no

[deep robin]

ummm is there a glitch rn for not able to refine?

[wet shadow]

i am looking for a group of miners to mine with , i have 2 moles we will split profits

[tepid hawk]

Haven't mined or tried refining but some work loads are multiple hours long, what happens if I log off or the server dies? Does it persist into another server?

[vapid geode]

yes it does

[proven moss]

ill pay some1 10 mill to help me mine

[sharp rune]

10 mil? what are you mining?

[coarse cape]

^^

[errant vigil]

hi did your ROC work again after the failure or is it still clitched

glitched

I have tried 5 ROCs now on PTU and PU all of them with the same fault. No laser or extraction beams

1 of them was a rental

I really like ROC mining ive made 4mil in three weeks of just mining at my own pace and its the best enjoyment ive had with this game i hope the next patch fixes things

[bronze sinew]

He's probably mining bitcoin with that amount of UEC 🤪

[sharp rune]

I was gonna say

[raven scaffold]

where can you buy a Caterpillar now?

[crimson mantle]

Levski, for the time being: https://finder.deepspacecrew.com/ShipShops1/dc39ca6b-1d76-4db5-9346-356f49954978

[raven scaffold]

thats where I messed up, I forgot that Leveski was still in the PU, just removed from the PTU for now

only too me trips to Area18 and Lorville to figure it out

[tight crescent]

Would I be able to buy a helix laser and attach it to a rented prospector? (Please @ me if you respond 😊 )

[pallid temple]

@tight crescent No

[tight crescent]

Ah dangit, thanks!

[bronze sinew]

I'm actually so torn...
I have an MSR and a Dragonfly. Plan was to go hand mining and then get a Roc.

I played with the Roc for a bit now, and i just cant seem to like it.
I also really want to like the MSR, but the amount of doors and the elevator in the cargo bay are just so annoying...

You guys reckon i should melt the MSR and the dragonfly, and get a Freelancer Max and a prospector?

[errant lark]

yea go for it

Also I havent noticed any differences in trading, still extremely low stock. Everyone else still suffering with this?

I hoped their maintenance a few days ago would help, but maybe 3.12.1 will bring something

[raven scaffold]

They stock of commodities won't be adjusted until 3.12.1. Even then trading needs a systematic change to become viable as a continuous game play loop.

[crimson mantle]

According to the road map, they are currently in the middle of re-balancing commodity pricing as a whole. Check out "Systemic services and tools team" > "Recipe TDD" (https://robertsspaceindustries.com/roadmap/progress-tracker)
Hopefully it comes out great!

[daring raft]

Whats the over/under on the Nomad holding the ROC without the clipping/dropping happening? I actually own the Nomad (its a cool ship if I could only mine properly in my ROC) and wish it worked like the truck it so wants to be!

[pulsar bloom]

the roc fits in a nomad

[daring raft]

it does fit to a degree. I bought the Nomad because the ramp on the cutty can be bothersome, thinking the Nomad has a better solution. Then loaded the ROC without issue. Mined some rocks on Magda and loaded the ROC.....close hatch and watch ROC dance until it popped out. Open gate.....load ROC, dancing again and popped out on its side. Reclaim ROC at mining facility. Load ROC dancing again. It didnt fall out....launch into the air.....ROC falls out.

This is not optimal and leaves my Nomad in the hanger.

[next stump]

what are the best mining spots

[green sundial]

mining for what?

[pulsar bloom]

@daring raft I have not had that issue but have only used it 2 or 3 times. I normally use my msr

[tardy flower]

Greetings everyone,

Trading is currently still Bad?

[thorny copper]

It is

[pallid lake]

so I must be doing something wrong, I just sold a load of QT which is what everyone says makes the most money like 1700 and I made 32k. At 80 per I should have made 136k. anyone have an idea of what I am doing wrong? it was refined yes

I was making 200k per trip roc mining hadanite, just does not seem right

[deep robin]

is there a way to increase the timer on quatinium? when mined

[tepid hawk]

If hauling is broken, how is selling refined ores not broken? I've had to constantly hop servers to sell a 1/4th load of laranite but I hear refined ores sell fine at terminals

[sharp rune]

It is

It takes forever sometimes to sell certain refined materials.

[tepid hawk]

Like the more popular ones?

[sharp rune]

I have trouble selling even diamonds atm lol

7k at a time

[tepid hawk]

ugh I might just take a break from SC until 3.12.1

ROC is too buggy, bounty hunting too slow

[sharp rune]

Just got to pick a less popular time, inventories are global

Yea I miss the ROC mining myself

[tepid hawk]

global so server specific or region?

And roc was fun for awhile but after making 2mil in it I can safely say I need to do something else

[sharp rune]

honestly ppl have told me region but ive had no difference crossing regions.

I was doing 1-1.4 mil every 2-3 hours in the ROC. Stacking up cretes in my ship before selling.

[tepid hawk]

Stacking crates could be good actually

Only been finding dolovine on aberdeen past 2 attempts unfortunately

[sharp rune]

Yea thats another thing too, I was finding tons of hadanite pre 3.12 on aberdeen, after was a little less but still could find good piles, somewhere after a hotfix I stopped finding it so much, and on top of the HUD bugs.. kind of ruined the experience

From what I understood it was suppose to increase value of minables/% of what you find. Even starting prospecting was doing great but the last couple weeks have been real rough.. lots of 2% or 40% like beryl or something useless.

[pallid lake]

Arial has been nice for Hadanite, been finding lots of spots with like 6 or 7 nodes at a time, pulled an easy 200k + pre trip. I am dropping the QT mining to go back to it, it seems way more profit for the time spent

[sharp rune]

yea I had tried there a few times but wasnt finding it like that. SC - Experiences may vary xD

[pallid lake]

been dropping in like 20k from Bezdek and then runninh another 20 or so away from it, seems to be doing good like that

[sharp rune]

Could be server/render related.. the odd time I find a get a really good server where I find all kinds of rich materials, Like clio doesnt really have much hadanite but one day all I was finding was huge patches so i decided to try ... went back with a roc another day and... NO hadanite lol

[pallid lake]

I have 2 loads of QT in the refinery now and if I dont see any better profits from it I will be roc mining tomorrow for sure

[sharp rune]

CRU - L3, Aaron halo, and MT moons have been great for Q.

[tepid hawk]

As much as I love playing SC, not making much money and the only viable way being ROC mining, just eh

[sharp rune]

I find piles of 5-12 rocks few of which have 20-40%. 1 load = 250k

I made 8 mil in 6 days

[tepid hawk]

Doing roc and putting boxes in your ship?

[sharp rune]

Qauntainium

[tepid hawk]

I always find server start to die out before I can collect more than 2 hauls

ooo

[pallid lake]

I have had some luck tonight off Yela in the astroid belt, some 20-30% qt rocks

[sharp rune]

When I did roc mining/storing it was 1-1.4 mil every 2-3 hours 2-3x a day so like 3-4 mil a day

[tepid hawk]

For the prospector do you change any of the internal components besides the mining head? I heard the trommel isn't great as a power plant

and can just perma turn the ship off

[sharp rune]

genoa, snow fall, Fr-66, Siren QT

[tepid hawk]

Thanks, I'll try that build

[sharp rune]

I got a mole last weekend, paid for itself in 2 days

first day with it had 3-4 loads thats 3x prossie each load

[pallid lake]

I have been using the lancet mining head but have not upgraded anything else. I have run pretty low on power a few times and had to leave empty

[sharp rune]

but i've launched myself into a horrifying infinite death spin blowing something up in the mole getting shot like 10km into orbit xD

[tepid hawk]

Mole was what got me into SC. Even using it solo would be so fun.

[sharp rune]

Lancet with surge, Optimum and Stampede pretty OP

[tepid hawk]

Are consumables essential now? Or just to make it easier at times

[sharp rune]

Thats what I thought when my buddy in an org said he had 5 of em and 400 mil from running groups

[pallid lake]

I have not used any yet

[sharp rune]

I thought I could make good money myself with it finding 12 Q rocks 3 or 4 of which were 20-40%

[pallid lake]

but then I have only brought in 4 loads without blowing up so far

[sharp rune]

yea that Siren engine is great - uses a lot of fuel and cant travel too far but worth it and cheap to refill

Mic - L1 to MT moons are great spot can get 3 runs on 1 tank

[tepid hawk]

Selling refined ores is done at the refinery right?

[sharp rune]

Yes

[tepid hawk]

I see people saying they load their caterpillars with it though

[sharp rune]

any of the L1 or Hur L2. dunno about the other L2's

[tepid hawk]

So I guess I start refining, go mine more, and store it in the cat?

[sharp rune]

Yes sir. I got me a 2nd cat for the purpose 1 for q and bexa 1 for everything else xD

[tepid hawk]

Very interesting, I'll go give it a try

thanks for all the info!

[sharp rune]

Until I can buy a Hull C or even a C2 Hercules would be nice

[pallid lake]

must be nice, I have to make small runs in the cutlass

[tepid hawk]

I've got a C2 on the way when it comes out. It's gonna be so much easier to fly than a cat in places like hurston

[sharp rune]

Do what I did, buy a max a pre-up to the cat

[pallid lake]

maybe thats why im not seeing mega cash

[sharp rune]

4-5 loads in that will get u a Cat

which in turn pays for itself in 1 or 2 runs

Investments

[pallid lake]

I have the cutlass and the prospector and about 80k, just started so I will get there some day

[tepid hawk]

The lack of 30ks just makes me want to haul

[sharp rune]

Yea I started back in november, like the last week.

been like 2 months and 1 week xD

If the roc wasn't so buggy with the new HUD.. omg the stacking in my cutty 😍

[pallid lake]

I have not had an hud issues with the roc

[sharp rune]

I have. or more specifically the Mining modes bugging out. Collection mode becomes fracture mode and vice versa, but the animations and Hud say opposite xD

[pallid lake]

I have flipped it a few times, had to use the mining laser to flip myself back over

oh wow

[sharp rune]

happens randomly, or almost always if u get out leaving the roc on collection mode and start flying your ship, then re-enter the roc. I.E goes into fracture mode when it was in collection

[pallid lake]

not seen that

[sharp rune]

Lucky you xD

that or the lag in servers sitting there waiting for collection beam to pick up pieces xD.

[pallid lake]

oh now that I have seen

[sharp rune]

I had the odd server between 3-5am that was like 20ppl or less, super smooth, there was no lag in the ROC

to see it as intended was so beautiful instant pic ups, live update of your cargo not lags behind most the time.

[pallid lake]

yea I see the cargo stop updating quite a bit as well

lol so I guess I have seen the HUD issues...

[sharp rune]

even the meters were super responsive :D. It'll be nice to try in 3.12.1

the same thing happens in my Mole with leaving collection mode on, just less frequently then the ROC ever did. I usually switch it back, make sure it still fractures before getting out to fly. Gotta make a report on it

[pallid lake]

I had an issue earlier when I sold my first load of QT and only got 32k for it

refined

[sharp rune]

really? how much did you have?

[pallid lake]

1700 and change

[sharp rune]

Also is ur ingame name the same as here?

[pallid lake]

no

Temolan in game

Just logged out

[sharp rune]

should of been at least 139k for that

[pallid lake]

thats what I thought

[sharp rune]

Did it sell all of it or did you get the "full" message

or in otherwords did it all sell?

[pallid lake]

so shop said it was full, so I backed the slider off til it didnt and sold

I had some left after but not many like 20 or so

[sharp rune]

hmm maybe ya bugged it? I cant say ive backed the slider off, but the full is norm right now server inventories are global and over loaded xD

suppose to be fixed in next patch. I usually just wait until server tick lets me sell it all, or as much as I can until it sells without touching the slider

[pallid lake]

well got 2 more loads cooking now, 2524 and 2525, I will see in the morning when I sell

[sharp rune]

Yea this time try not using the slider and just do it in batches at full should prevent that xD

[pallid lake]

yea

[sharp rune]

Welp hopefully you get a nice 400k from those 2 loads total

[pallid lake]

no doubt

if not, its rock mining from here on out til I get some better ships

[sharp rune]

Best of Luck to ya 🙂

[pallid lake]

ok thanks again, look me up some time in game. I will be around most nights

[icy skiff]

looking for 2 to sit in a support laser in a mole pay is 50k when we land

my dude has a vikings name ragnar lothbrok

[sharp rune]

Oh thats another thing people are willing to pay you to help them. I know a guy who has 5 moles for crews. Says everyone goes home with at least a mil a night.

[bronze sinew]

Guy must be making bank like crazy

[onyx echo]

I was trying to sell a ROC full of hadanite but it took only 50-70 hadanite at a time so had to travel between outposts to seel it all

[gleaming turret]

Bruh thats too less man

tbh

[bronze sinew]

So, i just got a mole, but i cant scan asteroids. Anyone else have that issue?

[sharp rune]

Last I heard he had 450 Mil

[vital glen]

that's sickening

[sharp rune]

and the asteroids not scanning is normal Space mining pretty buggy

half of what I find doesnt scan. Surface side much better 🙂

much closer together to if you go to the right place 🙂

[sharp rune]

Why? its not like he can do anything really with all that..

by the time they put in bigger ships im sure it'll be wiped xD

[vital glen]

it's sickening because im trying to save for a carrack in game XD

[thorny copper]

Yeah its gonna be the most sickening for him when he lose it all

[sharp rune]

I am picturing that MR. Burns going.. "Excellent" with his evil look xD

[bronze sinew]

also, can you not scan rocks with the scan mode anymore?

[sharp rune]

no it should work with scan I don't have an issue with it on land. THo in the mole I gotta almost kiss some rocks for it to pick up xD

[bronze sinew]

That might be it

i didnt kiss them

no luck

Well that sucks

now i kinda want my Prospector back...

[subtle cradle]

It happens in prospector as well. Some rocks just isn't scanable or minable

[bronze sinew]

This one was tho

just not with the scanning mode

[sharp rune]

Its a rendering issue tbh XD they are minable/ scanable it just wont render properly to do so

[bronze sinew]

Question is, why wont it scan the asteroids or rocks (did try on the planet as well, even touched it with the ockpit)

Great. And the refinery wont pick up my Mole either. Only the direct ore sale actually recognizes it

Is the Mole just utterly broken this patch?

[sharp rune]

Sounds like u got a bug. I dont have that issue.

[bronze sinew]

And i cant sell the raw ore directly

just gives me errors

[sharp rune]

Are you suppose to be able to stack consumables? Any time I use An optimum then stampede or vice versa, they cancel each other out, but someone in game says they are able to stack both at once..

[bronze sinew]

This is so frustrating

No idea, but i think i did hear once, that it should be possible

[green sundial]

a mining laser can only have one consumable active at a time

[sharp rune]

Thats what I thought 😄

[vapid geode]

that is a good new for surge cuz you just remove its negative effect simply by activating another consumable

[brave plover]

Hi, I'm brand new to SC, I'm wondering how profitable cargo hauling is? I've heard it makes big bucks and that it's good for early game

[sharp rune]

I personally find Mining way more profitable if you got the time/patients

[next stump]

same

[crimson mantle]

Hi and welcome! 🙂
Right now there's an issue with the amount of stock shops have, but hopefully the patch going live in a couple of hours will fix that.
In the meantime, you can explore your options in the best case scenario here: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

[brave plover]

Thanks a ton!

[sharp rune]

all those hours ppl spend into cargo hauling to make a profit is a pretty big loss compared to mining xD

[brave plover]

K thanks

[crimson mantle]

If you ever get into mining, I've got you covered as well 😄

• https://sc-trade.tools/mining
• https://sc-trade.tools/ores

[sharp rune]

@crimson mantle thanks for keeping area 18 commodities updated too! Gallog doesnt even have it yet. xD

the comparison for Q is insane tho xD

[crimson mantle]

My pleasure. I'm preparing the site for the 3.12.1 patch as we speak!

(Nothing really changed aside from Levski being gone)

[brave plover]

Levski is gone?

Bruh, the starter guide I was going to follow hinges on Levski

Fuuck

[crimson mantle]

The whole planetoid is gone! 🙂
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/190048/thread/star-citizen-alpha-3-12-1-live-6975085-patch-notes

[brave plover]

Oh ok

Thanks

Why did they remove delamar though?

[crimson mantle]

The new event with the pirates was causing too many performance issues, so they removed Delamar to make space in the server's memory.

Technically Delamar is not in the Stanton system: it's in Nyx. They just put it there because it was ready

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/starmap?location=NYX.ASTEROID.DELAMAR&system=NYX&camera=60,0,0.0003,0,0

[heady spade]

yall should watch the youtuber digthat

hit mining and smuggling videos are really good

i made tons of money in the freelancer off of his smuggling tutorial

[elder anchor]

So what's the word on the street? Trading fixed?

[errant lark]

^^^^

[lethal swift]

Which is best generally for hadanite mining with ROC. Arial, Aberdeen or Daymar? I used to use daymar but been a while since I mined so I don’t know if things have changed or not. Feel free to ping me

[tepid hawk]

doesnt seem like it :\

for fucks sake it's worse than it used to be lmao

[pallid lake]

they did say they reduced the starting inventories and the replenish inventories

[elder anchor]

Like they started everything at 0 so it'll slowly replenish over time or they lowered the max amount?

[pallid lake]

what else should I upgrade on the prospector with the helix mining head?

[elder anchor]

I ran over the Ariel tried to grab laranite and tungsten and they were all out, so I agree that it's worse than before

Ok they had 2 units... Not scu, units

[tepid hawk]

hauling is fucking dead

So tired of this shit CIG

[elder anchor]

I like the lancet head with surge, optimum, and stampede

[tepid hawk]

there are 3 gameplay loops and they managed to remove one of them already

[pallid lake]

power upgrade? or is stock stable enough?

[tepid hawk]

get a maelstrom

trommel bricks sometimes above 700 heat

[elder anchor]

I know some people try to go stealth components but I've only upgraded the qt drive

[pallid lake]

ok thanks, will look for that

[crimson mantle]

If you want the raw numbers on ROC mining, here they are! https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Greycat%2520ROC%2522%257D

[hollow sedge]

is cargo running good now or?

[errant lark]

yep its terrible

nope its worse

how have they not fixed this

[hollow sedge]

geez

I just wanna be a trucker man

[errant lark]

i know dude

[hollow sedge]

How did they not notice people have been complaining about this

[errant lark]

they said they were solving it

called it a commodity issue

no shit

[tepid hawk]

"supposedly" you have to give the terminals time to populate

the problem is they only begin populating when someone tries to access the terminal

I miss space trucking so much, mining just isn't for me.

[dense fractal]

[tepid hawk]

look up

[pallid lake]

so new bug unless anyone else has had this happen. Just mined a 10% QT rock, got maybe 500 QT the rest was beryl quartz and inert... not the greatest but it was something.... when I hit the refinery it all turnmed into QT 2100 ish

[sharp rune]

Its a known bug.

happens often. Also can turn ur Q inert/into other materials. I've had it become taranite

[pallid lake]

o/

first for me

[sharp rune]

Its highly unreliable tho so dont count on it being consistent

[pallid lake]

no doubt, I am glad it happened this once atleast since the wipe at my refinery runs while I was at work

[sharp rune]

I think I discovered another bug. Has happened twice now that i've landed, handed in an order from my prossie, went and stored my ship to put new consumable on after using 1 up, go back into ship and load still there.. but back at refinery order is also up, get a free load

Have to test further

[pallid lake]

consumable not being consumed?

[sharp rune]

no, it was used and went empty so I went to put another 1 on.

[pallid lake]

oh I re-read... understand now

[tepid hawk]

yo how do you sell boxed hadanite

mined with a roc

[pallid lake]

leave it on the floor of the ship

then sell from ship inv

[tepid hawk]

I did, not showing up at aberdeen storage terminal

ill try agai

ayy worked, thanks a lot

[sharp rune]

gots to make sure its in the designated cargo area of ship or it tends to not show up I've found xD

[wise crow]

So trading still bugged?

[lofty crest]

terminals: good ,refresh rate: meh/not good, sell rate: good

overall a solid 7/8 out of 10

[lofty crest]

refresh rate is still v bad

[lethal swift]

cheers 👍

[subtle cradle]

I can't sell Dolivine at TDD. Am I doing something wrong?
It is greyed out

[vapid geode]

could potentially try at the moon terminals

with ground vehicle access

[subtle cradle]

I just sold hadanite from the same roc but it wont sell the doli

[vapid geode]

worked for me early Jan. If price is red it means TDD doesnt have quota at the time

[subtle cradle]

Ok I'll try later. Thx

[haughty wraith]

Anyone want to group up and mine

[bright lotus]

so if i read that right

2ppl = 1 Mole
3ppl = 1 Mole and 1 Cutty Red
4ppl = 2 Moles
5ppl = 2 Moles and 1 Cutty Red

[wet shadow]

lol correct its best to have 2 ppl to a mole and a cutty red scanning

[bright lotus]

ok just wanted to make sure. lol

[wet shadow]

well you got me excited 😦

[bright lotus]

Sorry trying to get my bounty certs back right now

[wet shadow]

yeah i have to do that too 😦

[bright lotus]

yeah the group cert was not populating which sucked

I plan on diving into the whole mining thing here real soon.

[wet shadow]

knives add me!!!!!!!! i promise you will not regret it lol

[bright lotus]

Disc same name ingame?

[wet shadow]

yes sir but better to get me on discord

[bright lotus]

I'll most likely reach out here when i am ready to dive into that. adding you in game just helps for queing up since server sizes were dropped due to the current event

[wet shadow]

droped to ?

[bright lotus]

40

[wet shadow]

you are correct nice!

[tepid hawk]

Helix or Lancet for quantanium?

[forest mesa]

Lancet

[tepid hawk]

Can the lancet mine other ores as well as the helix?