industrial-professions

[rotund abyss]

Fair then

[swift shuttle]

worth$

[rotund abyss]

Ah shit fair decent i guess

[swift shuttle]

was on his ship - and i was learning

[rotund abyss]

Is it hard to mine

[pallid temple]

It all depends on what you mine, where you refine it and which refinery method you use

[swift shuttle]

scroll up and read the article

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[green sundial]

my refinery guide covers this and the % yields

[swift shuttle]

but now i have to get a cargo ship. fml

[green sundial]

just rent one

rent a MAX

and just use it for 1 day

[swift shuttle]

oh thats a good idea!

[green sundial]

well you can rent a freelancer

or connie

https://finder.deepspacecrew.com/ShipRentals

[swift shuttle]

I will have to see how much storage I'll need

[green sundial]

not much selection

[swift shuttle]

but a connie would work. expensive - so I'll need to figure something out first to afford it haha

[crimson mantle]

One thing to note is that 1 Prospector load will always fit in 1 Cutlass load.

You can rent one of those for 24h for ~28k and make multiple trips.

[swift shuttle]

I wish I had a Prospector! I drunk bought the MOLE lol

[crimson mantle]

Oh sorry, I should have read the whole conversation! Yeah the 96 SCU of mined goods will only fit in bigger ships.

[swift shuttle]

ya - and the connie can hold the 96 - so that's ideal - but expensive. might be worth a few loads in a day - just stinks I can't use my buddies connie lol

[crimson mantle]

But you can look at it another way: does the 70k rent price make it worthwhile to double the value of your ore?

[swift shuttle]

touche

[green sundial]

they really need to add more ships to rent

[odd flint]

I think it is possible to end up with more if you use a very efficient process and that station has enough of a bonus.

[pallid temple]

Its not possible as is

[odd flint]

I thought the most efficient process was 95% efficient and that there's a 6% bonus in some cases? .95 * 1.06 = 1.007.

So seems like you could end up with literally a couple of extra units on a big load.

[pallid temple]

Unless you get really lucky and end up with 100% Agricium

[green sundial]

theres only 1 station with enough of a bonus which will take you over 100% and thats I 'think' CRU-L1 with copper

[odd flint]

Different topic: How are people doing with buying able to buy trade goods after the hotfix update?

Daddy wants to buy a fighter, and it would be nice to make some money.

[green sundial]

honestly I haven't had a problem at the TDD terminals when I go to sell my mined stuff. maybe I'm just lucky

[odd flint]

Yeah I think the issue was more common trying to buy from mining outposts, less trying to sell at TDD.

[ruby jolt]

Hello there,
I am tired of combat playstyle and bought freelancer MAX recently for doing cargo
Is there any good ways to make maximum profit of it? Or any tips for cargo newbie?
The only route i found is Bezdek-Lorville, but it seems not so profitable enough

[idle blade]

i've been strictly focusing on Quantanium and have ended up wil multiple full prospector loads in a decent amount of time. Doesn't make sense to mine the other stuff anymore.

Veid, there won't be crazy profits doing trade with a freelancer due to its size. Yea you can make money but it isn't much

Most traders will run a Cat or Carrack or even multiples of the same ship to maximize profit with little time

[ruby jolt]

anyway, is Bezdek-Lorville the best route for trading?

[green sundial]

you'd make more per hour doing bounties tbh

[ruby jolt]

i'm tired of destroying monitors... was making about 250k per hour but want to change my gameplay for a while

[green sundial]

hmm well why not rent a cutlass and a ROC and go mining then

theres alot of problems with trade terminals atm anyway

[ruby jolt]

did they nerf it a bit? ROC mining was pretty good and fast in prev patch, but with current refinery..

[green sundial]

you don't refine gems you collect with a ROC

[crimson mantle]

ROC minerals are not refined: you still sell them as-is, for the same price.

[ruby jolt]

ah, that's nice

couldn't check it cuz wasn't been able to choose a ship in refinery terminal lol

[green sundial]

because the refinery only accepts a Prospector or Mole as a source

[ruby jolt]

i mean terminal for minerals

[green sundial]

oh

[ruby jolt]

i don't remember the name of it sorry

[green sundial]

hmm if you want to do something stupid simple go do some of those waste collection missions. you'll get to see some places you've never been

mainly aid shelters

[ruby jolt]

now i want to feel dat trading gameplay a bit)
i'll change to exploring.. a bit later i guess hehe

[green sundial]

well the problem with that you want to do is its just such as well traveled lane already so everyone competes for those resources

[crimson mantle]

Bezdek-Lorville is one of the good ones right now unfortunately, but feel free to explore your options here: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

[green sundial]

^this guy, he does calculations good

[crimson mantle]

Don't forget to play with the "refresh rate" filter (https://i.imgur.com/3XNgXCy.png).

[ruby jolt]

yep, thx checking your website)
are prices up to date? i made 150k test run and got 20k profit instead of 35k

[crimson mantle]

Ah yes 🙂
It is up-to-date, but from the static game's files. The game has a dynamic ecnomy and simulates supply and demand price fulctuations, so what you get on the website is always the "best case scenario".
More on that here: https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq

(They won't let us access live data, so I do what I can ;))

[green sundial]

hmm wouldn't it instead be the base case scenario?

😄

[ruby jolt]

oh, okay)
thx for your job!

[crimson mantle]

My pleasure!

[green sundial]

if you are ever interested in mining this patch: https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-complete-test-squadron-mining-guide-v3-12.18373/
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-test-mining-guide-supplement-3-12.18389/
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-test-refinery-deck-refinery-guide-v3-12.18413/

warning - they're long but detailed

[ruby jolt]

woah, looks so good, thx i'll check it)

[green sundial]

🙂

I'd recommend reading the Supplement last

[delicate junco]

@green sundial yeah i need to get a prospector eventually

[green sundial]

🙂

[vapid geode]

does the ore sell page allow selection of ore to sell?

or is selling all ores the only viable choice?

[sage geyser]

where does it better to mine planet side or asteroids?

[frail roost]

It's all a mixed bucket. Can't sell individual materials.

[sharp rune]

Anyone kno if u can eject propector material and keep mining or do u have to repair after?

[idle blade]

You can only jettison all of you cargo when you have quantanium and the alarm starts. Its all or none. @sharp rune

[sharp rune]

Thats fine. I found a 40% quantainium rock and im 3/4 full on taranite

I basically wanted to start over

[idle blade]

Just break the quant, mine a tine bit and wait for the alarm

[sharp rune]

Cool xD

Thank u!

[sharp rune]

Oo cool after i did that the other materials i had collected with the quantainium turned into quantainium so i got a full load

[vocal chasm]

Here's a trick that I found on a reddit commentary section to get your cargo back after a 30k by the user RegalMuffin:

"It's not 100% but much more than 0% chance of getting your cargo back. When you 30k in transit from purchase to destination, essentially once you've cleared the moon you bought from, don't load back into PU instead load into your hangar, and call the ship with your cargo in. Now if you were still reading as landed it will just permanently say loading ship, and not spawn your boy in, but if you were in transit most of the time, i'd say ~70% for me it will load your ship in WITH cargo inside, when you load back into the verse it will have despawned your ship and have it ready to spawn from a terminal on where you spawn(cargo still inside). Saved me millions in my grinds back when i was running 1.4m loads of laranite all day. I found this out in a real deep dive on reddit early into my trading career, and though I've not traded yet in this patch due to having more aUEC than I know what to do with, it was certainly working in 3.11 still."

I'll definitely try that next time if I get a 30k and hope that it helps someone here ^^

[steel flame]

https://uexcorp.space/trade

[bright star]

235k aUEC worth of refined ore ready to be sold.

[green sundial]

very nice^

[hard siren]

i hope the severs will be good for you

[bright star]

It was. The only problem now is that Agricium stock is always full at CBD. Now I have to patiently sell my 46 SCU agri slowly.

[raven scaffold]

Congrats @bright star

[manic whale]

OMG, be safe 😳

[green sundial]

its been a few hours. did sparky sell it all?

[bright star]

I decided to meet Judy in Night City instead.

[formal meteor]

Is there an issue with stock levels and restock rates or am I just that unlucky? I've been trying for a couple days to buy a bunch of laranite or Titanium and looking at multiple servers and multiple buy points from sc-trade tools I consider myself lucky to find 6 SCU in stock (500-600 units)

[tardy flower]

Greetings everyone. What's append to SLAM ?!

[pallid temple]

You can buy it on Cellin and sell it on Hurston

[tardy flower]

But I can't fin the prices.

Some people says that SLAM IS can make good cargo run in 3.13. Is it?

[pallid temple]

Yeah

If you have the aUEC for it

[wide cove]

I need a new ship. What i can buy for 150 000aUEC ?

And i play alone so... just a good ship for me

[crimson mantle]

At that price there's only the Aurora ES

[wide cove]

and for 200 000aUEC

?

[crimson mantle]

You can check out https://scfocus.org/ship-sale-rental-locations-history/#sale-location

Single seaters are priced closer to 0.75-2M

[tardy flower]

@pallid temple thank you

[royal kelp]

How much does Hull E sell for when it's for sale on pledge store

[pallid temple]

$650

[tardy flower]

Hi @crimson mantle SLAM is no longer a commodity on your website ?

[crimson mantle]

There's nowhere in the data where it's sold :/
Apparently they added some places, but it's not in the data.

(Which sets a dangerous precedent for data mining, but we'll see what the future has in store)

[tardy flower]

If i fond a store do you want to know?

[nova tinsel]

I hope you didn't crash

[crimson mantle]

I know reclamation & disposal buys it now but without the hard data I won't be able to add it in properly, with it's refresh rate and max inventory, etc.

I'll wait for this coming patch and see if they add it

[rich bane]

What is the current state of mining atm? haven't played last 3-4 months

[pallid temple]

It's pretty good

[rich bane]

I heard they added bigger rocks for Mole to crack, how does it effects prospector, are there lots of them?

[pallid temple]

They haven't added bigger rocks

[rich bane]

hmm mkay

[pallid temple]

What they did for 3.12 however is a rebalance of mining across the board, changing the stats for the lasers, consumables and rocks

[rich bane]

How's the refinery, worth using it?

Last time i played ROC was meta, maybe still is

[pallid temple]

Its not

[crimson mantle]

ROC mining stayed the exact same, so it's still good.
Ship mining got overhauled completely. Here are some links you can browse for the changes:
TEXT
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-complete-test-squadron-mining-guide-v3-12.18373/
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-test-mining-guide-supplement-3-12.18389/
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-test-refinery-deck-refinery-guide-v3-12.18413/

VIDEOS
Mining Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmE2u_80HGU
Refining Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IAMG_UlCd0

OTHER
Value of ores: https://sc-trade.tools/ores/MISC Prospector or Argo Mole
Mining spots: https://sc-trade.tools/mining

[vapid geode]

I am curious about how much better is prospector mining compared to hand mining

[reef acorn]

With the hotfixes the 30k bug isnt as active. WOuld you say Trade routes can profits equal to mining

[raven hill]

I just got a roc, where should I got to get used to it and try it out

[crimson mantle]

I suggest Aberdeen or Arial: https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Greycat%2520ROC%2522%257D
Look for Hadanite, as it's easier to mine (and worth much more): https://sc-trade.tools/ores/Greycat ROC

[raven hill]

Ok thanks!

[crimson mantle]

I also suggest moving far away from the outposts, as pinging with the radar makes you extremely visible.

[raven hill]

That makes sense

[sharp rune]

So whats the deal with stock being full when going to sell refined Cargo? I was able to sell both my max and andromeda fully loaded all at once without running into any "store is full" issues. I buy the cat this week, spent the past 3-4 days filling it. Go to sell all 3 ships fully loaded and cant even clear 1 of them. Took me like 4 hours to sell it all like 1000 at a time lol

[neat dune]

They definitely messed with the supply and demand sometime this week.

[crimson mantle]

Time of day also impacts a lot: the refresh rates are not that big.

[sharp rune]

Yea I thought that was what it was.. they changed something in the hot fix a couple days ago cuz I never had an issue with "Full". spend all week mining to fill up a cat, Having to spend half a day selling cuz of "full stores" and refreshing is like 100 per 15mins. Brutal xD.

[gritty pendant]

Can Hadanite be sold yet?

[sharp rune]

^I was able to sell what I had after 10 days. try Ariel Bezdek I believe it was

[gritty pendant]

🤔

[steel flame]

⚠️ SC Trade Tools ⚠️ is actually not up to date , for example I noticed that your data on trade consoles are wrong on the amount of commodities and on refreshment time. Because the servers are broken or the data was voluntarily changed by the deveulloper.

exemple Laranit is now 6 SCU by reloading on Bezdek (Max 100 000 units + 1 389/min information from Trade tool site is now wrong ❌ ) and other positions etc

I think data was voluntarily changed, you have to ask the deveulloper a confirmation.

https://tenor.com/view/office-space-bill-lumbergh-coffee-look-stare-gif-4429465

I went several times in positions on a lot of different server I waiting a long time and I noted
that the datas units /min is not correct.

conclusion: Laranit commodities ❌ Wrong or Broken ❌ (or values quantity ​​modified)

trade today is a nightmare...

since 3.12

Patches note corrected the Trading machine but not their quantity and the time to refresh.

And you can find yourself for 20+ minutes waiting on post for 6 SCU Laranit to load in your cargo ship..

Amazing trade system pfff👎

Honestly I don't believe in the feasibility of Trade system in Star Citizen project they are light years away from developing something stable and moving in real time. completely broken server

and the time they spend on big server and good server will be in several years

6 years have already passed and we go on the 7...

[sharp rune]

Yea they put a hotfix out this week that like broke selling even more so than it was XD

C'est la SC? 😛

It took me 4 hours to unload 3 ships today that I've been filling all week.

[lofty crest]

honestly trade is changing, trading is not gonna be usable until after icache and quanta comes into the game

just doing bounty hunter missions imo

[sharp rune]

trying to earn UEC to buy ships to test/try out in pvp by doing those missions is not ideal tho 😛

and they are half broken right meow too I hear

[lofty crest]

tru but all you really need is a cutlass balck

[sharp rune]

I have that. But there are a few ships I wanted to try also

[lofty crest]

also small trade is still feesible, Diamond or Asin in a freelancer

then work too a prosp which can be hired, thats when you can make real cash

[sharp rune]

I just made 3 Mil tho

got another mil refining

[lofty crest]

after the 3.9 laranite boom its just not been good for trading

hell yeh thats good cash

[sharp rune]

had 40k Qauntainium

11k left to finish refining then sell

[lofty crest]

but i diagree with the statement that the trade system is far away, its already ahead of most MMO's

[sharp rune]

I just mean w.e they did this week has made selling terrible. I sold 3 loads in my max and andromeda both at the same time last week. I do that, fill em, take em all at once, sell em all at once. Been no issues, got a cat this week finally, filled that and had a max and con andromeda full too. That took forever to sell.

[lofty crest]

cat is like 400 plus SCU alone

no shop has that much space

also server hoppping is your best friend

[sharp rune]

Yea but my Max and connie both have just under half capacity of a cat. The fact I went down and couldnt even sell a full MAX or andromeda load tells me something changed

when last week there was zero issue, after 4 hours and 10 different servers at least

[lofty crest]

ask yourself not when will they tweak trading before its meant to be viable

but when will they add poop mechanics

star citizen more like scam citizen

[sharp rune]

lmao. Space ARK/Atlas xd

[lofty crest]

the big sad, maybe something change maybe not? might just be more people trading

[sharp rune]

well if u look at updates there was a hotfix for "commedities" Idk w.e they did this week something changed that or everyone selling all at once literally, with the up coming database reset

[lofty crest]

my trading has been dog shit. I was one step behind a MSR at all the stops

who trades in a star runner little shit

[sharp rune]

lmao I guess if its all ya got. I would jus roc mine with it tho.. better cashola

30-40 mins = 220k

[lofty crest]

i just did pirate missions, im on my way to being a belter

[sharp rune]

Someone wanted to steal my cutty black today.. I was like why.. its a cutty black lmao

[lofty crest]

i love my cutty black but id never steal one

another cat in my fleet tho??? yes pls

[steel flame]

look here select yor cargo ship click on Stim rectangle look down at the margin it's not bad, and the investment not too risky if the game crashes (30k) https://uexcorp.space/trade

32.98%

https://tenor.com/view/office-space-bill-lumbergh-coffee-look-stare-gif-4429465

benefit 11.280 (with a freelancer max)

4.324 (cutty)

[manic whale]

I would call it good trade If it was 4 times more money

[lofty crest]

what is this 3.9?

[steel flame]

yes you need a bigger cargo ship for 4x more ( 54.144 with a caterpillar)

you can invest elsewhere for a better profit, but if the game crashes you lose a lot of money

[manic whale]

Still not worth the time 200k with cater. would be OK

[paper hill]

is the Aaron Halo still in the game? If so, how do you go about finding it? I hear that it is rich in mineable asteroids.

[worthy spoke]

just wondering how many of you will turn the caterpillar into a C2 hercules?

[lofty crest]

nope cat is bae

big pirate energy

[worthy spoke]

i feel like a girl flying the best in show

need it gone

[lofty crest]

good lord

cant you just put a different paint job on it?

[worthy spoke]

no you can't do that in BIS ships

[worthy spoke]

would you say upgrading the caterpillar into aqulia is dumb

cuz im very tempted doing so

[lofty crest]

i mean do you want an exploration ship?

[worthy spoke]

yes

i plan on running cargo on an M2

but the thing is there's less cargo than caterpillar

so it's a very hard decision man

[willow girder]

Aquila is a good ship

The more scan range they let us have, the better these ships become

[shell badge]

Hey guys, i'm trying to do some trading and using the sc trade tools. When i filled in my ship and current money it tells me to go to HDMS-RYDER on Ita where i should buy astatine. yet, when i try to buy it i can only buy 5KaUEC of the stuff? SC trade tools tells me it has a max of 300000 units with a 2000/min refresh time

Is SC trade tools not up to date or what is happening here?

[lofty crest]

so other people may be trading for one, stock is shared over people not innate to one person.

[shell badge]

is the stock shared across servers too?

I noticed it filled up a little. Instead of filling 5 SCU i can do 15 SCU already

[lofty crest]

im not sure about servers, ive heard people say it is

best thing to do

is go onto a different/ dead serever region

so like america is probs best atm?

[shell badge]

thanks, i'll give that a go. Is there any way to save my ship's location when swapping servers? Like sleeping in a bed or something? I guess not right?

[lofty crest]

sleeping in a bed may work

best thing to do is dock tho

[shell badge]

I'll just dock then. I tried waiting a few more minutes, but the max amount i can still buy is only 15 scu. Doesn't seem to be increasing anymore even though trade tools says something about 2K/min

maybe that's just an average and it'll take longer for it to restock, but in larger quantities or something

[lofty crest]

it may be that its 2k of the smaller size idk

[shell badge]

been a while since i played SC. Last time i played the trade tools looked different

[shell badge]

Could someone suggest me some good trade routes? I've tried 3 now that the trade tools suggest me and every time there is only 1-2 scu in stock......

[idle blade]

All the good trade routes are probably being ran by multiple people with multiple accounts. Trading is kinda hit or miss the way the data is shared across servers

[crimson mantle]

Try something with a higher refresh rate (https://i.imgur.com/3XNgXCy.png) or fill-up on alternative commodities (https://i.imgur.com/OGiEvFW.png), it might help 😄

[pallid temple]

It doesn't matter what your website says, the trading ticks are broken

[worthy spoke]

Can someone check the profits on a carrack

Just an idea for m2 profits

[crimson mantle]

Well of course game problems are also there. It's hard to get accurate data when things are not working the way they are supposed to 😒

[pallid temple]

I mean its not long before 3rd party websites start dying out

Once icache begins its implementation there'll be no XML files to read of

[crimson mantle]

We'll see what the future holds. In the meantime I'm just trying to be helpful 🙂

[swift shuttle]

Any tips on getting less inert materials? So far 2 full runs with a mole - 58k each - trying for agric but usually have over 50% inert.

What I’m asking is there a formula to calculate about how many SCU a rock is holding of a material? Like mass 4000 and 8% agric.

Found myself filling up 2 scu of inert material even though the fragment was 60% diamond. Wanna be able to make a call to not pick it up unless it’s really worth sucking up inert

[pallid temple]

100mass equals 2 SCU of ore

[swift shuttle]

That’s very helpful. So if for argument sake- it was 100, and 70% inert. That would essentially be roughly 1.5 scu inert

[pallid temple]

Yeah

[swift shuttle]

God bless you. So simple and I was scratching my head

[pallid temple]

Its actually really easy to tell with 3.12

Because we can actually see our cargo in realtime

[crimson mantle]

The Dr. is correct. Also note that not all ores "clump" the same: some clump much better an form purer sub-chunks (https://sc-trade.tools/ores/MISC Prospector or Argo Mole).

[pallid temple]

Agricium, Laranite, Taranite and Quantanium are more likely to "clump" together when breaking a rock

Which means you have a higher chance of 100% chunks

[swift shuttle]

If I have a work order complete- might I need to sell at different locations or one work order will sel at one station

[pallid temple]

You can't sell refined ores at stations

[swift shuttle]

That’s good to know! I’m avoiding quant. Already takes me 15 minutes to land lol

Sell refined ore at.... a refinery?

[pallid temple]

No

You can sell refined ores at the CBD on Lorville, TDD on Area18 or the TDD on New Babbage

[swift shuttle]

Ahhh ok.

And when I made the work order it asked for I believe output location. Should I leave that blank or do I need to select something- it inly@listed my Aurora which has no storage

[pallid temple]

You don't select a ship until its done

[swift shuttle]

Ok! And that’s when I rent a Connie (cargo size) to transport

[rich bane]

So we no longer can sell raw mined minerals at PO? console seems to be removed only cargo

[pallid temple]

You can not

[sleek leaf]

Hard to believe they wont make an api.

[rich bane]

So we have to head to closest refinery? or grim hex?

[willow girder]

Refinery, if you don't want to miss 50% profit

[rich bane]

But refinery takes hours and hours to process though?

[willow girder]

Depends. Best is dymix, which y er s, is slow and cheap but max yield. Or take something else which is expensive but 6x faster

[idle blade]

@rich bane best recommendation is to mine, refine, mine, refine and keep going. Build up massive refining queues and transport them as needed

Just keep the queues flowing

[swift shuttle]

The completed work orders don’t disappear right?

[pallid temple]

Only if there's a patch

[old lake]

They really need to rebalance the supply and demand before they introduce two high volume trade ships to the verse. Everything is out of stock everywhere.

[pallid temple]

What they really need to do first is actually make cargo decks work

[odd flint]

Wow zero demand for quantanium at lorville?

[pallid temple]

Its a trading issue

[odd flint]

Does going to another TDD potentially help?

[pallid temple]

No

[odd flint]

RIP economy.

So there is literally no way to sell your refined goods?

[idle blade]

They need to remove the limits on it all until its fully implemented and they have mulitple systems

[odd flint]

So, I switched servers and/or demand materialized, and I was eventually able to sell my quantanium.

So it is not impossible.

[formal meteor]

its not impossible but it does make saving up a bunch of refinery jobs to sell at once more annoying

I'm probably just going to start selling ore until there's a patch for restocks

[crimson mantle]

Well, the good new is that the trading rebalance is coming soon (according to the progress tracker at least). It's labelled as "Systemic services and Tools team > Recipe TDD" here: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/roadmap/progress-tracker

Performing an overall polish pass on the economic systems, from commodity trading to item prices to provide a better overall experience for players.

[swift shuttle]

on the MOLE - are turret slots 1 2 3 - 1 front under cockpint - 2 and 3 off to the sides?

[idle blade]

1 and 3 are the sides, 2 is center

i think its 1 right 2 center 3 left @swift shuttle

[swift shuttle]

well f me then LOL

anyway to find outy for sure?

tried looking at them and they all look the same -

[sharp grove]

hey one quick question

where would be a good place for a rented prospector to try mining

i don't really knnow what im looking for - quantanium seems scary so maybe bexalite, but i don't know if i'm supposed to go to a particular planet or belt or something

and do i refine it -> connie andro -> loreville/area18/newbabbage to sell or can i sell anywhere

[swift shuttle]

i know there is a prospector at CRU-L1 - and Yela has some good mining I've heard- not far - moon of crusader

from what I've heard - you're right. refine, connie - to one of those places

CRU-L1 is right outside crusader so it's a quick QT

[sharp grove]

okay awesome i'll give that a shot

thanks

[mortal kettle]

did jan 6 hotfix fix tf20? "A services hotfix has been deployed to help address an issue related to the sale of commodities."

[sharp grove]

does anybody know of ways to increase energy? i have a prospector at 100% on an obsidian deposit, as close to the rock as i can get, even with overclocking the laser it still won't even go up

is it just doomed or is there a better way

like landing or shutting off other ship systems

[hardy ravine]

I think with the default mining head you can crack the rocks weighting up to around 4 tons

more than that, you need an upgrade, but sadly it is not possible to change loadout on rented ship

If you are new to the game and want a quick start, it might be more profitable to rent a ROC and Cutlass Black and go mine Hadanite untill you have enough money to buy Prospector.

[worthy spoke]

hey fellow cargo runners

how many of you caterpillars are upgrading to a C2? or are you keeping the caterpillar

[hard steeple]

can someone show me how to mine and make a profit with my roc or prospector lol i just cant seem to find anyting worth my time

[lofty crest]

yt

[nova tinsel]

There's some guides pinned in this channel

[glacial oxide]

Did they fix the terminal bug? I dont want to roc mine if it's still an issue

[nova tinsel]

Yes pls

[green sundial]

@hard steeple https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-complete-test-squadron-mining-guide-v3-12.18373/
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-test-refinery-deck-refinery-guide-v3-12.18413/
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-test-mining-guide-supplement-3-12.18389/

more info than you can shake a stick at

[hard steeple]

ty

[hidden mango]

Hey guys, how are the server crashes holding up? Is it worth coming on to try do a mining run?

[willow peak]

Cargo decks, is this the part of the ship where you can place boxes of goods? Or are you referencing cargo decks on stations. I haven’t played in a couple years. Just curious what’s not working

[pallid temple]

Cargo decks at stations

[willow peak]

Okay, so this would be an alternative to the terminal system.

Physically unload my cargo to a spot on the deck. Then go tell someone hey will you buy this. Is that the added gameplay.

[manic whale]

Why is there even a shortage or compIete unavailability of goods when the players cant affect it? Like we cant ferry water supplies, ammo. ...or if its in certain commodity, like water in Processed Food, why not to raise the selling price to make it more attractive, profitable for half a day or so?

..its sort of giving us just a half package of a game mechanic, like jail system.

[untold olive]

Does anyone know why when I try to sell Hadanite from my ROC it just says "Service Error!" and doesn't pay out?

[crimson mantle]

Many people are experiencing trading problems right now 😢

[untold olive]

ahh ok

[errant lark]

did the hotfix not resolve trade terminals?

[crimson mantle]

I haven't been able to personally verify, but allegedly the hotfix did help with the terminals in the sense that the commodities now show up. The refresh rates seem to be off/not calculated properly though: most shops only sell very small amounts and won't buy much of anything.

[errant lark]

ok so yea theyre still borked

well at least they may shop up, but hell if you cant buy more than an Avenger's worth of stuff then screw that

[vapid geode]

whoa I didn't know I can just simply take out mining part out on a street lmao

and there goes the game interface

[vapid geode]

Turns out it is a ship item change bug

[green sundial]

some assembly required

[nimble orchid]

maybe dumb question but, when i refine minerals what happens to the minerals I dont refine?

they just stay in the ships storage or what?

[pallid temple]

They get yeeted

[nimble orchid]

I was hoping that was not the case LUL

oh well

so I either refine everything or loose what I dont refine?

[pallid temple]

Refine what you want to refine

[hollow sedge]

Can you sell trash first before you refine?

[green sundial]

nope

its all or nothing

[hollow sedge]

Chris Trollberts must be proud

[sharp grove]

i tried doing some trading yesterday in my constellation and every trade that looked decent from trade calculators/tools turned out to have like 3 units available when i finally flew my ship to each one

is there a decent way to make a profit trading when all the units are shared between servers

or just luck upon a good trade

[waxen beacon]

would mining in a mole with 3 people be better than mining separately in prospectors?

[pallid temple]

I mean, no not really

[crimson mantle]

Multiple people have reported problem with stocks. There may be a problem on CIG's end.

[sharp grove]

ah okay

[nimble orchid]

Is anyone else having this problem? I have tried to sell my cargo at different consoles in different locations but it doesnt show up for selling.

[willow girder]

Thats why I play no more PU. Everything is literally broken.

[hard steeple]

Not everything :p

[shell badge]

Has anyone done some proper cargo hauling in 3.12? I tried doing it myself, but after half a dozen tries the stock is always almost completely depleted

Every time i land with my carrack there is only about 1-5 scu available

[atomic lark]

no

[strange bay]

same experience: supplies are depleted, but also if I did purchase something, hard to find buyers.

[odd flint]

Yeah game is not in a great state right now in terms of having multiple career paths semi-broken. A lot of people can't get bounties, and both supply and demand in trading are radically low. The good news is that I have had 100% success in terms of at least having the trading terminals show their stock and be able to buy/sell what is there.

Sales of Hadanite are bugged.

So if you're trying to be productive, economically, this may not be the ideal patch 🙂

Prospector/Mole mining and refining does seem to work fairly well. You sometimes have to work at it to actually sell the goods though because of the inventories.

[strange bay]

the only thing I've "seen" that doesn't "appear" to be affected is what I mine, with the Prospector, and sell to the Refineries.

lately, have had issues with thr ROC (it disappeared on me when loading into a Freelancer).

grrr....

[odd flint]

Yeah, selling ore as far as I can tell works fine. But since it's half value compared to refined goods, I don't do that much.

[strange bay]

The last run I did with refined ore, didn't run into issues selling at Area18.

it was small run, though, based on what I did with one mining run with a Prospector...

[odd flint]

I had refined some Laranite and Area 18 wasn't a great place to sell that. Sold most of it, server hopped, was able to get rid of the last bit.

[vapid cairn]

Do the ore trading consoles in the refinery not work?

Or do I need to move the stuff?

[strange bay]

my experience is that they have been work (eg over the weekend).

[odd flint]

You can sell ore for approximately half value at the ore trading consoles.

[strange bay]

I haven't done anything today, though.

[odd flint]

If you want full value, you have to refine it using the refining terminal and then transport it to a city with a cargo ship and sell it.

[vapid cairn]

Also, I told it to put into my Cat, but I'm pretty sure my Cat is somewhere else... It let me. Is that ok?

[odd flint]

If it let you put it in your cat, your cat was probably recently 'claimed' and so is sort of 'everywhere'. It's fine.

@vapid cairn So Ore terminals buy Ore, but after you refine you have commodities not ore, and they have to be taken to a city TDD to sell.

[vapid cairn]

Oooh. That makes sense. Thatnks!

[odd flint]

I hope that eventually it will be easy for a different org mate to handle these different phases of the process.

[stuck swan]

whats the largest quantanium deposit % wise found this far?

I am simply curious. 🙂

[crimson mantle]

They can go up to 50%

[sonic thorn]

what is the profit with prospector full of quantanium

[crimson mantle]

In the best case:

• Raw: 140,800
• Refined: 281,600
  *From https://sc-trade.tools/ores/MISC Prospector or Argo Mole

[odd flint]

Although I typically find that there aren't enough quant fragments at 100% for me to get fully full of quant.

I end up getting maybe 75% full and then pick up whatever is left laying around even if it is impure and get back to the refinery before I go kablooooiiieeee.

It takes long enough to break a big quant rock down, that unless the rocks are right next to each other, you can only really do one at a time.

Also note, slightly less profit refined because of refining efficiency and refining fees.

Less than 281,600, that is.

[vapid sandal]

guys, can i stop the refinement midway load in what is ready and continue the process with the remaining raw ore?

[pallid temple]

No

[twin sand]

Yo I’m brand new to mining but j in have a roc and a cutlass black. What mining head should I buy for my roc cause I was told the stock on wasn’t great

[crimson mantle]

If you stop the refining process midway, you keep what has currently finished processing and lose all the rest.

[green sundial]

there are no mining heads for the ROC

[pallid temple]

You don't need to change the laser on a ROC

[twin sand]

Ok awesome

Thanks

[pallid temple]

There are mining heads for the ROC but they're not in-game

[twin sand]

Lol

[green sundial]

^and I really with they were

[vapid sandal]

damn, thanks. Guess i will wait another hour

[sage spire]

Any workaround for buying goods atm or is it still fucked?

[hollow sedge]

is there a way to get the cargo hold on the mustang to work? just loaded up the game and wanted to do some delivery missions

[hidden maple]

I don't think the cargo hold on the mustang holds packages yet (or ever will), sometimes if you place it right you can get it inside your cockpit.. but it's janky af

[untold olive]

cant sell my minerals for merits in prison so guess i got to wait 20 hours

[green sundial]

logged in after the patch and found my refinery jobs were still running 🙂

[pallid temple]

Because they didn't do a database reset

[glacial oxide]

Is bounty hunting or quantanium mining most profitable now? Just bought prospector and gotten kinda bored doing bounties 7 hours straight 2-3 days in a row

[sharp grove]

does anybody have advice for scanning in a cutlass for ROC nodes?

i usually use 1x at like 100-200 speed and am pretty close to the ground, pinging at 30-40% off CD, but i dont seem to find as much

[undone socket]

is it me or new patch, but every time i load into game and get in bed, my client crashes to desktop.. help!!!?!

[frail burrow]

Game crashes, ship full of cargo, get back and call ship it shows I have cargo, get inside ship no cargo. Is that normal?

[steel flame]

@frail burrow try to go trade shiping console i think you can still sell

you just have the visual bug probably

[frail burrow]

It happened to me again. I don't know who the genius was that decided to constantly take us to bed when we crash or log out. So frustrated with this game all these years. Maybe 10 years from now I'll revisit if I'm still alive

[sharp grove]

where do you want to end up..

[frail burrow]

Like every other game. Same place I logged or crashed

[lofty crest]

then you gotta wait for icache

this is known

[terse fable]

Can't seem to select my ship at any terminals when buying stock. Is this a known issue? My ship is listed in the selection drop down but it is unselectable.

[shell badge]

has anyone been on some cargo runs recently? I keep trying to do them with my carrack, but whenever i try to buy something the stock is always almost completely empty. I use SC trade tools to find good routes like i used to do, but either something is bugged or there are a ton of people hauling cargo constantly depleting the stock.

Even some places which have incredible restock rates seem to be constantly out of stock.

[wind summit]

I feel like they jacked with resources and trade terminals to pigeon hole people into Bh or mining. They do it anytime they want something tested. It’s an easy way to control a huge portion of the population that is only playing to make more credits.

[shell badge]

Well i was doing mining instead now myself. Just feels kinda ridiculous howmuch profit you make now with ROC mining compared to an argo mole

the mining is also a looot simpler because your rocks don't break into smaller pieces, blocking the good ones from view. Or worse yet, letting them fall through the map and so on hehe

[wind summit]

I enjoy mole mining, but my role I want in the verse is trader. I wanna keep cargo moving to keep parts, weapons, ammo, and ships available for others to buy.

[soft moss]

Has the Hadanite bug been quashed? (where you mine it, but are unable to sell it at the terminals because it's greyed out) Had a ROC last month but couldn't sell anything with it.

[wind summit]

no clue. I tried to sell more of my cat cargo and its still red and unable to be sold because the store is full.

so I guess I'll find something else to play until they reset things or fix it.

[manic whale]

No one needs you mining/selling hadanite, thats verified as working. Its bounty hunting test time 🙂

[pallid temple]

If people want to mine Hadanite then they can

[manic whale]

Yes, they can, but that game mechanic is OK. Devs need BH data and it smells for me pushed that way little bit.

[olive wagon]

Is anyone else having problems getting the ROC to even charge the rocks

Like I can get one rock out of the cluster but for some reason I can't get the other ones

[coarse cape]

Trying turning the power off then turn it back on again

[green sundial]

if that doesn't work drive the vehicle around to the other side of the rock

[coarse cape]

^

Or turn the arm off and on

[thorny copper]

when I want to buy shit its empty

when I want to sell shit its full

every. damn. time.

[crimson mantle]

Feel free to add your voice to the council: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community/issue-council/star-citizen-alpha-3/STARC-140047-Trade_Terminal_works__Inventory_Stock_is_smaller_than_expected_
It's the best we can do right now 😢

[vapid geode]

Yeah, trading space is surprisingly small

I noticed that cutlass tends to nose down in atmosphere. Do other cargo ships such as freelancer/star runner/adrorama have similar issues?

[hexed breach]

just brought mining helmet twice both never showed up in inventory

[pastel flame]

After grinding out some ships doing bounties I have taken a few loads of quant successfully to the refinery... in terms of consumables it seems like surge and optimum are all I need for the lancet. Any other must haves?

[vapid geode]

helix laser is arguably better, albeit more expensive

[pastel flame]

I have a helix, but I find it's harder to stay in the pocket during quant rock heating

[vapid geode]

some would also get forel against tough rocks

true. helix is not tat easy against quant rock

against other rocks is pretty easy

but I find the instability being the biggest problem

at 5+ it is almost impossible to have meaningful precise level control

[willow girder]

Stampede

[pallid temple]

No, the Helix is not arguably better, look at the 3.12 Patch Watch mining post on Spectrum and then tell me the Helix is better

[willow girder]

I would prefer the lancet.

[vapid geode]

had two trips of quantanium. And then suddenly goes red and explode upon landing. Very puzzling

[agile tulip]

How much can I make with the ROC?

[undone socket]

@vapid geode u need to hurry with quantanium, very unstable, eben a rough landing can blow it

[hushed bear]

where do i go to summon my roc

[cunning patio]

trading is dogshit rn

[woeful cobalt]

hi, any suggestion for a prospector mining head and where I can buy it?

[green sundial]

get a Lancet

https://finder.deepspacecrew.com/ShipMiningHeads1/ba94a262-bc0a-4484-9bbd-a4be7a2ec3e7

[woeful cobalt]

thanks nice page but is this for a roc or the prospector as it says greycat

[crystal galleon]

levski and PO both don't buy diamonds anymore? or bugged?

[green sundial]

@woeful cobalt greycat makes the Lancet

[iron quiver]

Is there anywhere other than Grim Hex to sell Widow?

[crimson mantle]

Diamonds, like all other refined minables, have had their sell points adjusted. Only hidden outposts and big cities buy them now: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Diamond 🙂

[crimson mantle]

No 😢
https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/WiDoW

[iron quiver]

Does resetting your character give you back the starting funds?

[crimson mantle]

Last time I did it it didn't touch my funds, but the support page does say it will: use with caution.

[iron quiver]

Ahhh, im an idiot and spent all my credits on widow and carnt shift it xD
Thanks for your help and ill give your tool a look next time 😄

[worthy spoke]

Bugged

[hushed bear]

anyone experiance this lol

just landed on yela i backed my roc out of my freelancer and fell through the map wtf lol

[worthy spoke]

I'm betting 500k you did not turn off the engine

[hushed bear]

i always shut off my engines

[glacial oxide]

anyone else having the issue of quantanium ore breaking a lot faster than 20 minutes now? me and another player on different servers just got it. (he lost all, i barely made it back as it kept flashing yellow warning) we break it all up first, then collect and fly straight back to turn it in and upload ship

[lofty crest]

its 15 aint it?

[pallid temple]

Its always been 15minutes

[pastel flame]

15 min... yeah. Set your jump target in before mining, break up all the good quant rocks, then vacuum and split.

I'm getting the hang of it now. Thinking it may be wise to mine some other mats, not sure how much refined Q cities will buy at a time.

[crimson mantle]

[When everything works as expected] the cities buy 40-500 SCU/min: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Quantainium

Although there have been issues with stock lately, Area18 buys such an insane amount that it should still be OK.

[pastel flame]

Thank you very much @crimson mantle I notice when Loreville is full, A18 will always take the rest.

[glacial oxide]

@pastel flame he had a bug, I could sell mine, but the second he landed on the platform it just started flashing red and exploded both times 😅

[pastel flame]

Tell him to avoid autolanding if he is

Gotta be soooooo sweet n gentle when our girl's leaking Q at the seams eh

[vapid geode]

FYI Tried trading yesterday on agricium. Area 18 still takes less than 20 SCU. I went back to the trade terminal ~20min later and it takes another 7 SCU. Nowhere close to 40+SCU/min

But I would also say a lot of higher value commodities with 30~40+SCU do go through, lorville in my case. I am still curious how much do player actually flood the sell allocation.

[crimson mantle]

Right, those values are split across all servers, so depending on the player base there may be shortages.
Also, people have been experiencing a lot of inventory-related problems lately: there is a suspicion that the refresh ticks are farther apart than they should be. No way to tell from our end though :/

[pallid temple]

Its not that they're further apart, its just that the exploiters took advantage of the crap servers and effectively overfilled their ship with refinery orders, but its constantly duplicating, which means they oversaturate the market

[crimson mantle]

Ah, then that's another problem!

[pallid temple]

What they do is they spam the collect button on the refinery order, and they do it over and over and over again until it disappears and by that point they've put 300 SCU of cargo into a ship not meant to hold 300 SCU

[pastel flame]

Wow... greaaaasy

@pallid temple Thanks for explaining that, I had heard some facsimile of that but not clear

[pallid temple]

But then as they're flying down to sell, its still duplicating and by the time they get to the TDD its basically thousands of SCU of cargo

[pastel flame]

That would kill the fun for many of us who enjoy the grind and the value of the following rewards.

[pallid temple]

It already has killed the fun

[pastel flame]

Fair, I mostly bounty hunt and only recently got into Q mining. That sucks.

[steel flame]

⚠️ We have the answer it was not a bug but a voluntary modification " - Reduced starting inventory levels of multiple commodities at TDDs to prevent their inventory from being constantly maxed out"

[hollow sedge]

Was it tho... no water, guns, medpens, bullets. But also cant buy more that 20 stuff of cargo per 30 minutes

Thats a big Fuuuuuuuck you to the player

And still they take all your upgrades away every patch. Sooo good luck out there civilian.

[steel flame]

Trading is bad and broken become completely useless

job to forget for the moment

[green sundial]

thats it, everyone is now an Amazon Prime Delivery Worker 🙂

since trading is broken

[steel flame]

Trading is died

[sharp rune]

Im one of those ppl who actually enjoys the grind of searching for my own materials refining and selling. Since the latest patch i feel like rendering is broken for me.. i am spending hours only finding rocks with 2% materials where i use to find anywhere from 10-45% valuables.. kind of maddening.

Also i can confirm spanning collect on orders doesnt work for everyone i feel like they are hacking lol cuz i tried a few times just to see how easy it is to replicate. Never fills more than the order originally showed.

[pastel flame]

@sharp rune that's great, looking for yourself is always good. Try CRU-L3

[sharp rune]

Will do. I had great luck with clio pre patch. Was finding tons of 45% quantainium and various other valuables. And there was laranite. I haven't seen a rock over 2% laranite since i patched and wiped my shaders folder twice becuz of bug. I have spent the past 3 hours and have a total of 1 full load over 3 orders lol (3 1/3) loads.

[pastel flame]

ohh... yeah, definitely try L3. I know planetary mining can be really profitable but I've had more luck in belts and fields lately myself.

i tend to lurk in that Hurston area, but no doubt others have found some sweet spots

[sharp rune]

Ive had bad luck space mining.. half the nodes i find wouldnt scan lol. Have to try again tho xD clearly clio isnt cutting the chase anymore

[acoustic hornet]

Where's the hadanite these days?

[pastel flame]

I hate that no scan bug

[crimson mantle]

Aberdeen and Arial
https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522Greycat%2520ROC%2522,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%2522Hadanite%2522%255D,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522%257D

[polar patio]

finished my mining controller.
1 axis and 3 buttons (for the consumables)

[austere drift]

😳

what a beauty

[sharp rune]

So i think it was a bug for not seeing anything over 2% in my prossie. I changed my eye colour and now i have no trouble finding something to mine on clio xD

[pastel flame]

Awesome! Back to business as usual

[sharp rune]

Speaking of.. i kind of like this guy :)

Reminds me of my cutty controls xD

[polar patio]

because it's cheap af?

and it rattles when used? 🙂

[north hazel]

where i can sell my hadanite? no shop want to take it

[green sundial]

because trading is bugged

[north hazel]

last few days it works very good 😫

[sharp rune]

What the cutty? I love the cutty xD

[polar patio]

do you guys refine the ore first?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[polar patio]

and selling it now works? no more tf20 bug?

[glacial oxide]

uhm the second i landed my prospector it started flashing red because of quantanium even i had like 10 min left. and all broke, new bug ?

[green sundial]

how hard did you land?

[glacial oxide]

not hard at all

well not harder than i normally land

[green sundial]

hmm

I'd advise auto landing with quant

it seems to be very sensitive

[glacial oxide]

ah ill try that next time so that might be why it happens? o,o makes no sense

[green sundial]

quant is sensitive to all impacts to the ship

makes it decay faster

[glacial oxide]

ah so i just have to move slow and not break hard etc?

[green sundial]

right but no hard landing

moving is fine

just the landing

though I guess you could ram someone and it'd explode even better

[glacial oxide]

ahh :p ill try auto next then, unless changing it to lowest speed is better

[sharp rune]

is that why the odd time it would sudden go from stable to red and explode the moment I land and get out of my chair? @green sundial

I land the same way every time xD

[green sundial]

probably

[sharp rune]

what about when it doesnt explode but just goes inert? 😛

[green sundial]

or it could just as likely be the server derping

[sharp rune]

i think thats what it is, the server does seem to jump as I get out of my chair when it occurs. But the inert thing Idk.. ive had quantainium turn inert but also other materials turn quantainium xD

[green sundial]

quant has always had issues since it was introduced

[pastel flame]

Careful with autolanding Q loads it can screw you

Just be slow and patient setting down

[sharp rune]

I only used autolanding once. I didnt like it xD. I am usually pretty easy on the land especially in more touchy ships.. can always adjust the max throttle too.

so whats the up with selling refined cargo? Ive talked to people selling at normal trade panels in like lorville, but it never let me sell anywhere but at TDD panels for refined materials specifically?

[crimson mantle]

Only those places accept refined goods: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Quantainium

[agile tulip]

How much can mining in the ROC make me?

[sharp grove]

very dependent on bugs/luck

if you can get your roc in the ship without issues, no spawning bugs, find a good hadanite cluster within a few minutes and mine it

200k-300k per hour

if you have to pay for a cutlass, get some spawn bugs, door breaks on the ship and you dont find any good clusters

30k per hour

its pretty varied

[pastel flame]

Great summation.

@sharp rune You can only sell refined materials at major industry areas, Loreville, New Babski, A18

[errant lark]

so our our beloved laranite runs stil fucked?

[lime moss]

yeah its numbers are still very low. what frustrates me is that you can buy all the other stuff, but you cant sell it is large quantities. I have a cat full of titanium that I have been unable to offload for several days now. \

[agile tulip]

Okay so basically the last time I played was when the ROC was considerd broken for getting money. Has anything changed like hadanite spawns or the storage on the ROC, etc?

[dusky fjord]

Agro mole is good full cargo of Taranite around 360k

[blazing onyx]

anyone here good at mining ?

and wanna teach me lol

[polar patio]

a full roc is around 230k

if you have a cutlass black or similar, it's the way to go

[sharp grove]

cant sell anything from my ROC

its just greyed out at the console

any ideas?

[green sundial]

where at?

[sharp grove]

uhh

hdms anderson

at aberdeen

[green sundial]

hmm

well the backend has been having problems

[sharp grove]

yeah

tahts probs it

[late flume]

Hello, do you guys know of any resource to identify ground installations to call the ROC to for mining around said station? I currently use HDMS Hadley on Hurston ... was wondering if there were others that weren't hostile ... as I have found out the hard way. Or is someone has created a resource ...

[next flame]

many are hostile but I have not had the pleasure you have!

[late flume]

yeah got shot down in prospector and fined for trespassing on the other ... so trying to keep track of those not hostile.

[next flame]

Oh dont get me wrong I have been smashed a few times with full loads of agricium, but I am in my Cutty with the ROC now doing that and have not had a problem. Maybe its the fact that the cutty can fight back pretty good

[late flume]

Yeah thats cool, I couldnt get anywhere with the Cutty /ROC... the door kept breaking ... I just got killed by another player when I was leaving a station. I dont see how that is fun since your reward is prison

[next flame]

Do land with the door open, I have noticed that when ever I did that it would break. I make sure I close it everytime now and I have not had the problem since

[still moat]

hey guys, i wanna go trading but the consols are 50% buggie. Do you know any good routes without that problem?

[raven scaffold]

I'm sitting on 2.2m aUEC. I own a cutty black fully upgraded (minus coolers). Should I continue to grind, purchase a prospector, or something else?

Previously I've preferred mining with ROC, previous patches I've hauled when we had the Lancer, and bounties/merc missions

[naive maple]

Hey Y’all... how much does Dolivine supposed to sell for?

[vocal chasm]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Dolivine

yw

[naive maple]

Thanks!... I didn’t know that covered hand mineables too LOL

[crimson mantle]

If you can sell it, it's in there 😄

[vocal chasm]

@raven scaffold At this point you have many options. What you do now depends on what you want to achieve. Imo grinding for the caterpillar will give you the most options since it will offer you the most money.

But ofc there are reasons to grind for other ships directly from now

let's say that you want to get into combat more then grinding for a vanguard for example would make sense

or you save up for a mole if you have friends
or you buy the prospector now if you want more mining (even tho mining seems to be very bad rn)

or you buy the Argo mpuv cargo if you want to waste your money

But overall there's just no objectively correct decision

it depends on what you want

[raven scaffold]

Thanks for the input man. I appreciate it

[old lake]

Any consensus on whether just bulk mining or spending time finding higher value ore is more efficient?

I’m currently finding it to kinda be both tbh

[vapid geode]

just curious. Is it possible to outsource refinery cargo transport to other players? Assuming you completely trust other players for the entire transport process

[pallid temple]

No

[timid hill]

Man. I hate doing cargo runs on microtech.

[olive sluice]

any miners wanan crew up ? mole etc

[wind lynx]

On a scale of 1-10, how well does the ROC fit in a Cutlass Red?

[brisk ravine]

without bugging out but barely

[lethal wigeon]

(first time ROC mining) maybe i'm doing something very wrong, but right now my ROC bay is full of hadanite (and my PB too) , it's still inside my cutty , on a PAD or stored : I cannot sell my ore to HUR L1 , MIC L1 refineries.
i'm not trying to refine it, but even if I wanted to , menu does not show my ship

[pallid temple]

You don't refine stuff that the ROC mines

[lethal wigeon]

good to know, only prospector ok

so i'm just trying to sell the hadanite "raw" , covalex (on HUR L1 / Everus) won't take it either

[pallid temple]

Prospector and MOLE only

[lethal wigeon]

traditional "trading station" does display my ship/roc, but hadanite is "grey out" , I think this is expected now
but why the refinery console don't allow me to select my ship/roc ?

[hybrid vigil]

I hope they finally fix Klescher in 2021 ?

[lethal wigeon]

NeonSamurai > nope

[lethal wigeon]

someone told me Hadanite has to be sold in HDMS stations

problem remains , hadanite is grey and can't be selected

[late flume]

Had a similar problem ... I had to logoff and back in for the terminal to work for me. The shops had no stock shown on the shelves either until that.

[lethal wigeon]

I just hop server from EU to NA , but didn't "complete" log off I guess, welp my good Sir Tickey decided it was time anyway$

[elfin cape]

looking for work once I get out of prison

[vocal chasm]

@timid hill Why do you hate it? I have found the best routes for my MAX around that planet right now ^^

[swift shuttle]

When you make your work order - should you just select one ore to refine at a time?
Curious how this works - I did it all - will i have to travel to different ports?

and any websites to tell me where i can sell waht refined materials?

[late flume]

https://sc-trade.tools/

[old lake]

thats a lot of quantanium...

[sharp grove]

"insuffient stock" at trade terminal when trying to sell hadanite

how can it have insufficient stock when im SELLING

i've been trying to sell a full roc of hadanite for 2 days

with different bugs

this shit is so annoyingly unplayable sometimes, cant even grind it

[subtle cradle]

Really wanted to buy the ROC.
Sounds like it might be a waste of money atm tho

[outer comet]

my laser stopped working midwat
didnt do anything
on roc
any ideas?

[south roost]

Howdy folks, just getting into mining, going to rent an ROC and a Cutlass, any recommends for places to mine?

[blissful rain]

Aberdeen

[glacial oxide]

@lethal wigeon terminal bug for roc is very common right now, so its not worth doing it tbh

[lethal wigeon]

@glacial oxide ok it seems so , I've actually re did a test and could sell them at HDMS ! I guess the cargo was bugged due to GPU crash into 30k into respawn into reclaim etc , yeah the thing was totally bugged haha

to be clear i wasn't trying to make any worth money, just wanted to try the full experience of mining/selling and compare with bounty hunting (which is way more efficent/30k proof for sure)

[glacial oxide]

Yeah I only do bounty hunting and prospector mining atm, I gave up on using the roc

[crimson oak]

yep bounties def the most optimal/safest right now

but i still occasionally roc mine just for the change of pace

[subtle cradle]

How much does people earn on a ROC run anyway?

[pallid temple]

Around 200k

[subtle cradle]

Ok that's decent. But yeah bounties would still be better probably

[valid roost]

I did a mining run this morning with like 20scu of quant, but when I tried to refine it showed 32 scu and won't let me setup the refinery job

[blissful rain]

Same

Can't create a refining job

[south roost]

Where do you sell minerals on olisar?

is there like a shop?

[lethal wigeon]

if a quick consensus for ROC is "go to Aberdeen , take hadanite only , sell at HDMS posts"
what would be the prospector short answer? i've just rented one for 2 hours and I'm not trying to make huge money with Mining Quick Reference + SCTools right now

[fast jacinth]

what is good for starting off trading?

[lethal wigeon]

are you ready to play with server ticks , limited quantity , 30K and 1hour timer despawn loosing your cargo?

[elfin cape]

@lethal wigeon Maybe get a prospector two friends in moles go to CRU 3 and mine umm i forget the name but its the valuable one

i forget a lot of it. but i think it was CRU L3

I flew the prospector last time i hired out. And the op leader and another guy flew the moles.

Im currently about to jump on and look for another op to join

[crimson mantle]

You can explore your options here: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes
Be aware that it's a bit buggy at the moment.

[lethal wigeon]

@elfin cape i've created my own quick try prospector:

• get Helix head
• go Ita moon
• 5000 mass max
• take Taranite / Laranite / Borase
• refine at XXX-L1

[elfin cape]

I may give this a try. Looking for crews is hit or miss. And I wanna make more money lol

[lethal wigeon]

ROC : makes the most money, BUT = requires lots of work , most dangerous , most bugged
Prospector : less money but very chill , pretty safe , 30K is the only real issue you can have

[elfin cape]

I've done the roc thing too. But never solo

[icy nymph]

Roc on a freelance max isn’t bad

[naive maple]

Hey Y’all ... what the status of selling mined and refined materials?... is Lorville and Area18 still the best place to sell refined mats?

[crimson oak]

Does overclocking or overpowering affect mining lasers?

[naive maple]

Lorville or Area18?

@crimson oak I’m actually unsure!, that said, I certainly overclock them myself!... would be curious to know the results of any tests!

[pastel flame]

30k'd with a carrack carrying 700k worth of refined Q today.... oof

[crimson oak]

ouchy

yeah i always overpower my lasers out of habit but after looking at erkul, theres no bonus listed for it so makes me wonder

could be just a placebo

[vapid sandal]

i feel you, just got a 30k and lost 300k worth of ore while landing on lorville

[pastel flame]

I had just arrived in orbit around Hurston

[split minnow]

If you contacted ATC before your 30k, check CBD and you may find your cargo made it @vapid sandal

Its worked for me before 🤷‍♂️

[vapid sandal]

Nope, it's gone. Already checked

In hindsight i noticed that i was on the same server for 4 hours, changing servers before transporting my cargo probably would have prevented that

[split minnow]

[blissful rain]

I've done roc mining on my own. I have cutty black and white a roc.

[untold knoll]

What would be the best refining method ? i usually use Dinyx Solventation since the refining cost is very low but it takes soo long...

[pallid temple]

Pyrometric Chromalysis is the best @untold knoll

[untold knoll]

Alright thanks 🙂 also is there a limit to how many jobs you can start at one station ?

[pallid temple]

No

[glacial oxide]

I do dinyx as I mine daily now and don't need it all at once, I rather pay 6k instead of 30-40k and wait longer instead

[willow girder]

I use dynix only

[thorny copper]

they just had to move mining/refining into trading mechanics didnt they lol

I know its supposed to be and everything, but maybe a bit early?

[river crow]

any solid chunks on how to use mining consumables to the best of their abilities on an Argo M.O.L.E.?

[pallid temple]

Teamwork

It makes the dreamwork

[river crow]

well yes

but what about these magical things i shove in its arse to make it do magic things that print money :p

ofc i wanna start by changing the lazers to HELIX II's and such

[pallid temple]

I wouldn't use the Helix

At all

[river crow]

why not? isn't it the by far best lazer?

[pallid temple]

Not anymore

The Lancet takes that title

[river crow]

is that a new one or?...

[pallid temple]

No

It reduces the instability and resistance of a rock, increases the optimal window by 40% but it has a slower charge rate

[river crow]

is it still capable of handling larger rocks cause far as i'm aware thats why the helix was so popular

[pallid temple]

Its capable

With the right consumables you can crack large rocks with it

[river crow]

guess i can have both?

just leave the helix for the main nose lazer and have Lancet's for the side arms

[pallid temple]

Yeah that works

[river crow]

diffrence between I and 2's were just range weren't they?

wait price is the same...

so it dont matter XD

[pallid temple]

Range and noise

[river crow]

Long as its not NN-14's i don't mind the noise XD

got a Flash QD and 2 Ramparts laying around from my connie if they stayed in the transfer (took them off) so i'll be using those ofc

https://www.erkul.games/loadout/E9m47Rl5

XL-1 sounds a bit redundant for a Mole so ye XD

[pallid temple]

I mean you're wrong on that one

[river crow]

sure it'll go fast asfk but the fuel consumption's crazy...

weird... the lazers don't show up in the shopping cart

oh well manual works

155K creds for the lazers aint to bad, rest the parts i SHOULD still have ._.||

[crimson oak]

say you're flying a mole solo, can you get the benefits of the lancet on one laser on minimum power on the rock while actively using helix on your middle?

like you run to the right turret, shoot the rock with 0% charge or a bit, then man the "main" middle laser with helix and focus on that, would you still get the lancet properties applied?

[pallid temple]

No

[cinder steppe]

Mole solo is no go

[pallid temple]

If I see someone trying to solo a MOLE I blow them up

To teach them a lesson

[crimson oak]

knock yourself out

i guess ill ask around

[pallid temple]

I just gave you an answer

You have to be in the turret if you want the laser to continue firing

[crimson oak]

ah, thanks, i had only read the involuntary explosives bit.

[undone socket]

is trading still broken with terminals not buying?

or constantly saying shop inventory full

[dense fractal]

yup

[lofty crest]

i just wanna trade in my cat

[untold olive]

anyone know how much a full prospector of refined quant would be sold for

[valid roost]

3200 units at roughly 88 a pop somethin close to 250k~

[pallid temple]

Well once you account for refining where you lose a few units

You get about 3180-3190units refined

[river crow]

anything on hud dissapearance syndrome

[devout ibex]

whats the best place to ROC mine?

[sacred rampart]

I usually go to Arial or Aberdeen

Around Hurston

[river crow]

KEEP IN MIND: the ROC offers NO envoirmental protection, a Pembroke suit will be required for the hot climate of these moons

[sacred rampart]

They mustve changed that then

I havent mined in 3.12 but before it did

[pallid temple]

It never has

[sacred rampart]

I usually equip ADP mk4 armor, when I used to mine on microtech, I'd freeze when walking around but getting into the ROC my timer would disappear as it would heat me up slightly above my armor's temperature resistance

[river crow]

yea it protects you against the wind

but on places like Arial and aberdeen this is not nearly enough....

you'll be roasted

XD

[sacred rampart]

Wind has an effect

Or do you mean the snowstorms on MT

[river crow]

the windstorms on hurston and MT have an effect on temp ye

so the roc blocks those a bit

but if the atmos itself's over 200 deg's you're screwed eitherway XD

without a pembroke you've got round 30 min at most....

[sacred rampart]

Ye

[river crow]

and your water needs will skyrocket

[sacred rampart]

The adp goes to like -90 degrees and on MT it got to -121 before I started freezing again so I guess the ROC just absorbed -30°C of coldness

[river crow]

it does something yea

but more often than not it's not enough to stop ze ded XD

[sacred rampart]

takes like 10 minutes to mine a big rock cluster before you load up into the ship to go find new stuff anyways

[undone socket]

any idea when they will fix trading/ terminals for sellig and buying again?

[willow girder]

Next patch

[gleaming turret]

When is that?

[stoic pulsar]

Lol so when we gonna get a fix to the Prospectors murderous doors?

[austere creek]

That feeling when you can't find all the agricium after the first cracking. So you fly around the rock, and there's a 854 mass 100% agricium rock on the backside. 🤩

[olive sluice]

ikr

[sonic thorn]

can you dump cargo in space in prospector

[pallid temple]

No

Not unless you have Quantanium

[glacial oxide]

-.- i was pisking up wuant when someone starter a mission so a caterpillar and a lot of smaller fighters started attacking me, so I ran with what I had, and once I got back to cru L1 they said I'm prohibited from landing doing so I cant sell it -.-

[green sundial]

so just land anyway and it'll get stored

[elder anchor]

I'm a n00b, where do I buy a lancet mining lazer? I went to HUR L1 and L2 and didn't see it on the wall

Also optium? I didn't find that there either. I picked up the helix 1 head and surge and torbid.

[pallid temple]

You buy stuff from the terminal

[elder anchor]

I only saw a clothing terminal

[pallid temple]

Its the terminal to buy the stuff from

Why it says clothing I have no clue

[elder anchor]

I'll run back there. Thx

[pallid temple]

And optimums are at HUR-L2

[elder anchor]

yep, I thought that terminal was just clothing

got it, thanks again

[elder anchor]

Follow up question, is it possible to mine quantanium using the lancet head, or is the helix the way to go?

[pallid temple]

Its possible to mine Quantanium with the Lancet laser, if you have the right consumables

[elder anchor]

Do I know which ones by chance?

[formal meteor]

You can do it without consumables with some practice. but having a few on hand is really good for the learning curve

[pallid temple]

You can do it, but for some rocks you really need some oomf to do the first break

[formal meteor]

When I;m using consumables I tend to use Surge and optimum the most. Torpid occasionally

[pallid temple]

With the Surge consumable you get that oomf

[formal meteor]

Surge makes the first crack take significantly less time

[pallid temple]

Lancet is nice because you don't need a Torpid or a Brandt

[formal meteor]

Also it lets you not be super close. i find it gets really hard over like 125m. I try to be in the 75-100m range for the Lancet to get it done. I tried once at 200ish and it was just worthless

[pallid temple]

The max range of the lancet is 150m, and the optimal range is 30m

[elder anchor]

So surge really is all I would need?

[pallid temple]

Surge, Stampede and Optimum

Or 2 Surges and an Optimum

[elder anchor]

Do they stack so you get twice the power?

[pallid temple]

No

I just have 2 because of the cooldown

[formal meteor]

I was talking Lancet 2. I'd trust @pallid temple over me. I have basically no exp with Lancet 1

[elder anchor]

What does optimum do?

[formal meteor]

Doubles the size of the green zone

[pallid temple]

Optimum increases the optimal window zone by 75%

It used to be 100% but they dialed it back for 3.12

And it does it for 15seconds instead of 30

[elder anchor]

Nice! I've tried three times with just a helix had with no consumables and had a really hard time

[pallid temple]

The Surge consumable increases the rock energy level by 40% instantly, and has a 30second cooldown

And then the Stampede is useful when paired with a Lancet because it increases the charge rate by 125% for 60seconds which can be useful for rocks with small optimal zones

[formal meteor]

I personally like the Lancet better. I find it more stable and easier to use than the Helix.

[pallid temple]

Yeah the Lancet got a bit of a buff, too much I would say

[elder anchor]

I saw someone once use something that was pulsing. What was that?

[pallid temple]

Either the Stampede or the Optimum

What did the effect look like?

[elder anchor]

Like a extra blob in the beam every second

[pallid temple]

Possibly the Stampede

[elder anchor]

I sometimes play with my son, if we are both mining, what would you recommend for heads/consumables?

[pallid temple]

Maybe 1 of you would be better off equipping a Rime

The Rime instantly drops the rock energy level if you make a bad move and the rock's energy level is in the red zone

[elder anchor]

oh yeah that would be handy

[formal meteor]

if you do get in the red, make sure you both immediately double click. It turns the laser off and back on but sets the power to 0. You want to keep the laser "on" even at 0% because it keeps the rock more stable and can keep the green zone bigger.

You never want the laser "off". If you want it to cool down, just make sure its at 0

[elder anchor]

oh that's a handy trick

[formal meteor]

yeah. especially if the two of you are out there, both aim at the rock, look at the green zone, turn one laser on at 0 and see how it changes and also the rock's stability and resistance.

then turn on the 2nd laser and see how it changes

[elder anchor]

besides surge, do all the other consumables have a cool down too?

[formal meteor]

Most of them either have a duration I think. The instant ones have a cool down

[elder anchor]

gotchya. Any other tricks?

[formal meteor]

If your'e doing quant...

1. I put the fastest QT drive in the ship i can. I want minimal QT time to get to the refinery
2. Don't dock. Just block a landing pad until they impound your ship.
3. If you find a cluster of quant asteroids, don't worry about how long it takes to collect everything. You get a ~15 minute timer when you pick up quant. But as you pick up more quant, it doesn't completely reset the timer, but it will add to it

So as an example, I had a 3 asteroid cluster of quant. I cracked all 3 rocks and all shards with quant to collectable pieces before i collected any. I didn't do well. Hit red a few times, pieces were terribly positioned. I was solo in a Mole. It took me ~20 minutes to pick up, move pickup move, pickup move the ship

and then another 10 minuets to get it docked

I still had ~5 minutes left on the quant timer. so I'd had some of that quant in my hold for almost 40 minutes

[elder anchor]

lol oh wow. Yeah I figured the timer started from first one you picked up.

does it add to your timer or just kinda guess?

[formal meteor]

@elder anchor if I had to guess it does some kind of weighted averaging. It doesn't completely reset the timer. but if you watch the timer will go up

you still can't lollygag around. but you probably don't have to worry that you're running out of time as long as you're continuing to pick up more

[elder anchor]

What would be a good recommendation for a qt drive for the prospector? And are any refineries better for quant then others?

[tardy flower]

@elder anchor a good QT with Quick spool Time, fast on QT and allow you to travel in staton... The Voyage 👍

[elder anchor]

thanks!

[tardy flower]

Cru-L1 and after Mic-L2 are the best for refine quantanium.

[raven scaffold]

dumb question - can you put fixed/gimbaled weapons on a Caterpillar?

[formal meteor]

So if it were me, I'd run the VK-00 QD in the prospector for mining. But it can not fly across the system without refueling. so i would keep one with range (like Voyage) for going around the system.

But I'd swap it out at the refinery to the VK-00 then QT to the mining spot, and back

157,000km/s vs 283,000km/s

But changes your range from 64Mkm -> 27Mkm meaning you burn a lot more fuel going that fast

[tardy flower]

You can check that on Erkul website.

[raven scaffold]

It says you can there, just wondering if anyone's ever done it

[tardy flower]

No, never. For a caterpillar, the best stay to have crew in tourets or another ship in escort 👍

[cerulean bridge]

@elder anchor i went with the atlas for QT drive. seemed like a good mix of range and fuel usage. Lost about 30% range over the default drive but gained substantial speed.

Are there any locations where it actually makes sense to take the Mole over individual prospectors (i.e. more profitable)? And if so, to mine what?

[pastel flame]

Due to instability I'd say no... if you were really good as a mole crew I could see laranite mining certain areas I've seen as pretty profitable. Less trips back.

But Q refines to double the price of laranite, and on top of that it instills urgency that makes the trips a lot quicker.

[cerulean bridge]

ya i just dont see enough large rock closers where a mole is required that can't be broken up by a prospector. and given you have to split profits, it needs to be substantially more profitable to make any sense. when my nephew and i have tried, we def make less then if i just solo with my prospector. but i could be doing something wrong which is why i ask

[tardy flower]

Currently 4 Prospector are more profitable than a Mole.
But one Mole cost less than 4 Prospector ^^
Mole is for fun and crew play. I can also help to mine very large rocs with combined power and bonus of two or three mining head.

[coarse cape]

If im correct arons halo i think is still profitable

unsure tho

[formal meteor]

I go solo mining in a MOLE. Most of the time I get > 32 SCUs of quant in a single trip and thats the main reason i keep using it. I bring back more than if I was in a prospector. It a lot more fun with more people though even if less profitable

[river crow]

Argo mole flight hud disappears at random, any way to make it show up again and not just wait for it to randomly do so?

[molten skiff]

Where on Hurston?

[forest frigate]

Good afternoon! Just found this discord, and of course the first place I go is the mining channel! 😂

[molten skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/l1ewlm/where_do_i_sell_slam_20012020/

[crimson oak]

do the prices of commodities ingame fluctuate over time or are they concrete?

[glacial oxide]

Well losing 1 million auec refined ore when jumping from arccorp to area 18 because it just decided to explode sucks...

[crimson oak]

O_o super weird

[coarse cape]

f

[coarse cape]

im pretty sure they change over time

i think its depending on demand

[steep mauve]

Hello, I'm kinda new and I want to know what ship should I buy to do mining

[limpid citrus]

anyone looking for crew to fill up a mole?

[sharp rune]

OOoo. Estimated 12 weeks for Hull B to be flight ready 😮

[tardy flower]

Solo the Prospector. With a crew of 4, the Mole.

You can mine with a Multitool or a groung véhicule, thé ROC.

[pallid temple]

I wouldn't use the estimations as a flight ready date

[sharp rune]

I wouldnt use any of their roadmap ready dates tbh xD, im sure there will be delays but still. Pyro system will be cool too when ever that is ready

[hollow sedge]

hello

im new at mining

can someone explain a bit the basics

of mining

[lethal wigeon]

3 moons, 5 HDMS stations, nobody wants to buy my hadanite? is this a known bug where ROC is undetected in the ship? but can't sell my Pembroke inventory either .. I don't think so

[pallid temple]

https://youtu.be/4upKGMGRFAk

@hollow sedge This is the goto guide for mining

[lethal wigeon]

welp, that was very useless because he doesn't mention where to sell hand/roc mining, only refering to refine vs selling ore (prospector only)

and to be clear : I already sold hadanite in HDMS station before, I just can't suddenly.
but I have my idea, ship terminals don't recognize my ship and offer me to "claim" it ...

so the server considered my ship despawned (i think timer is one hour) , i'll find a way to land / retrieve it

[hollow sedge]

how much do you get from mining normally

[lethal wigeon]

I only do ROC mining, around 200/250k per hour

[pallid temple]

Depends on what you mine

[hollow sedge]

WHAT

yesterday, playing 11 hours i made 100 k only

[thorny copper]

thats really optimal scenarios

[hollow sedge]

even if i only make 20k per hour that would be 10 times what i made yesterday

[thorny copper]

I would say thats the payout for just the time mining alone, but all the extra ship and vehicle claims, flying around etc adds up

its still the best paid gameplay loop so far, next to large cargo hauls

which are much riskier

[hollow sedge]

so

what shall i do to start mining

and yes
i saw the video

[thorny copper]

go to lorville and buy a greycat roc

if you dont have a ship large enough for transport its easiest to rent a cutlass

[hollow sedge]

i dont have a ship

well yes buy actually no

what ship should i rent

[lethal wigeon]

you go to any station XXX-L1 (ex: HUR-L1)

in elevator go to "refinery"

[thorny copper]

pretty sure you can still rent it on lorville

[lethal wigeon]

rent Cutlass + ROC

go to aberdeen or arial , mine Hadanite only , "TRY" to sell it

[hollow sedge]

so
1st step
go to lorville buy a greycat and roc
2nd sterp
rent cutlass and roc

[lethal wigeon]

all of this is easier written than done :) bugs, roc exploding, getting stuck in rocks, 30k etc enjoy your new life

[thorny copper]

greycat roc is just one thing

its a mining buggy

[lethal wigeon]

no offense but you're either a troll or not ready for this yet

[hollow sedge]

troll?

i literally started 2 days ago
what do you expect me to know

[lethal wigeon]

nobody buys something to rent it just afterwards

[thorny copper]

https://starcitizen.tools/New_Deal

go here

its almost right outside the elevators after you land at lorville, can't really miss it

you'll need 172,000 credits

and another 30k or so for a cutlass rent

[hollow sedge]

hm i dont have that money

just 100k

[lethal wigeon]

thats why I said go to XXX-L1 and rent ROC + cutlass

i don't know why people tell you to buy a ROC when you're clearly starting thegame

[thorny copper]

thats true you can rent roc these days

It can get tedious if the trade terminals screw you over and you have to empty the storage on it before the rent expires tho

[lethal wigeon]

totally not recommanding mining haha, only fools do that x)

mining and cargo with 30K , more like "do you hate yourself that much?"

[thorny copper]

also kinda why I still prefer prospector even if payoff is worse

at least you dont have to prepare a bunch of stuff before you can start blasting stones

[lethal wigeon]

I can sell it ! finally !!!!

[hollow sedge]

so what should i do

i cant keep doing delivery missions forever

[lethal wigeon]

so the fix to this bug is "continue to fly from moons to moon, from stations to stations UNTIL you can finally sell it"

[thorny copper]

yup

or just store and wait

and try later

[lethal wigeon]

ハビエル > I'd recommand PvE Bounty Hunting !

approx 150k per hour for a new player

[hollow sedge]

ohhh

i tried bounty

[thorny copper]

what ship do you have atm

[hollow sedge]

i die everytime

the mustang alpha

[lethal wigeon]

Mission: Tracker training permit certification (the missions you have to "pay" to accept)
the next will be : tracker beginner permit certification , etc
DO NOT take : SUSPECT apprehension certification => it's PvP

[green sundial]

https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-complete-test-squadron-mining-guide-v3-12.18373/
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-test-refinery-deck-refinery-guide-v3-12.18413/
https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-test-mining-guide-supplement-3-12.18389/

if you want even more mining info

[thorny copper]

you could probably come a long way by upgrading the modules on your ship, but that's also an investment

[lethal wigeon]

ahhh black sunder strikes again, most useful guides for mining but only for the souls prepared for the fuckery asscociated with right now, strong mindset required hehe

[green sundial]

🙂

but my guide is very well organized

[hollow sedge]

thank u

[hollow sedge]

but i die everytime

[green sundial]

then don't do bounties

ROC mining will do you well

I've been able to sell Hadanite at Olisar btw

[hollow sedge]

but is it hard to sell

[green sundial]

its because the backend is screwed up

not your fault

it can be hard to sell

[thorny copper]

https://www.erkul.games/loadout/wRsZX5EJ

this would give your alpha a bit more sustainability in a fight

but its about 68k all in for weapons, shields and power supply