industrial-professions

[modest raptor]

Which one has the best yield?

[pallid temple]

I don't remember off the top of my head

[modest raptor]

alright dw

thanks

[nova tinsel]

How does one find cave mines?

Are they marked on starmap?

[modest raptor]

Investigation missions

should pay 4k

They lead you down mines

well

caves

[nova tinsel]

"Investigate Wreckage Claim"?

[modest raptor]

no

[nova tinsel]

"Investigate Missing Client Jarek Sorensen"?

Pays 4k

It mentions a cave

Thats probably it

[modest raptor]

Read the descriptions until you find one

Yeah

The investigate missing client ones are the correct ones

[nova tinsel]

Cool ty

[modest raptor]

:)

[crimson mantle]

Best yield, cheapest/longest: Dinyx Solventation
Best yield, shortest/expensive: Pyrometric Chromalysis

[modest raptor]

thanks :)

[chilly dome]

I’m thinking about picking up a Prospector so I can make some quick/sutainable aUEC. I’ve played around with vehicle mining, but I still only know a little bit. For 3.12, is mining still the best source of income, or has it changed? And if it isn’t what would you say is?

[fair fog]

@crimson mantle can you add (for comfort) column of refined prices of ores in Minables price list ?
It seems wide enough to handle second set of numbers without adding names

@chilly dome ROC mining should be most profitable if you know your way around bugs.
Prospector is very fun mining now, but complex. You need to understand how to properly use consumables now to crack some juicy rocks.
Also refining. Onyx option is the longest, but keeps most ore and is cheapest.

[nova tinsel]

These caves are huge, how am I supposed to find that person? :X

[modest raptor]

Just keep going down them

You will find purple lights on the way down

Keep following them long enough and you will find the body

When I go down the caves I normally just go there to mine and don’t bother finding the body

[main grove]

Today Inside Star Citizen he mentions using the refinery with the Mole and Prospector. Does than mean the ROC won't use it and only the kiosks.

[spark hound]

Correct

[main grove]

I like the idea of handing in my materials and waiting. Therefore time to sell my ROC and repurchase the Prospector.

[lavish wharf]

a BIG baby

[shut sentinel]

ROC Mining seems completely broken for me this patch, Besides the Nomads cargo grid going crazy, cant sell minerals from my ROC, or when I store them in boxes or personal inventory. Might just switch back to the prospector myself

[atomic lark]

Where are the refineries

[slim coral]

the L1 R&Rs

[atomic lark]

Apparently hur l2 has one, about to confirm

[chrome beacon]

So has anyone figure out if helix is the head to have now or has it changed?

[crimson mantle]

Should be possible, yes! Right now the refined price is the raw price X2, so everything would stay in the same order, by the same margin 😛

[fair fog]

https://puu.sh/GYOsi.png new mining is awesome

[marsh harbor]

drive

[hollow sedge]

can you refine ore that is in your backpack

[pallid temple]

No

Because that isn't ore

[hollow sedge]

whats it then

crystels or what

[pallid temple]

Its crystals

Which you just sell normally at a trading terminal

[fair fog]

gems are sold as is, you pick them up and sell

[hollow sedge]

can i atleast sell them at the refinery

[pallid temple]

No

[crimson mantle]

Not at the moment :)
You have to sell them at the planetary outposts: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Hadanite

[white pawn]

Did they take away the refinery terminal at PO? It’s gone....

[crimson mantle]

They did!

You can now only refine/sell ores at the new stations: https://sc-trade.tools/refineries

[white pawn]

Noooo. This is going to be a pain in the prospector

And I lost my helix head in the update plus the nerf to the helix... smh

[chrome beacon]

You have have to change up how you do things and your equipment

the game will always continue to change

[marsh harbor]

Helix is best for solo imo, but if you're in a Mole give someone a Lancet, it's a beast

Or two prospectors if that's your preference for multi

[tough rose]

Hey guys, someone on the reddit said it's possible to stay in the roc and close the nomad cargo bay from within the roc but i can't figure it out, has anyone else?

[marsh harbor]

Did you ask them? 😄

[tough rose]

yes...the answer was "Idk saw it in a vide on here a few days ago"

[hollow sedge]

does po not take hadenite

[spark hound]

nope

[hollow sedge]

what station or planet takes it

[spark hound]

see trade tools above

scroll up

[hollow sedge]

the what

[marsh harbor]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Hadanite

[spark hound]

thanks

[atomic lark]

Is the helix still the best laser for prospector?

[marsh harbor]

imo, yes

[atomic lark]

The lancet seems better

Looking at them, but i havnt actually tried it out yet

[twin spear]

so, where would you guys say are the best/most used mining spots?

[marsh harbor]

Lancet is absolutely amazing as a second laser, and maybe on larger boulders

[atomic lark]

That -75% resistance and instability seems really good

Helix is only 30% lower resistance and like 10% instability

[marsh harbor]

Ran it on a MOLE on the PTU with a friend, he had the Helix and I was running a Lancet. It's very useful

[atomic lark]

Is it because the charge rate / power transfer that make it inferior?

[marsh harbor]

Makes it slower but more stable. Up to the player which they prefer for solo

[hollow sedge]

wwll forget sellinfg hadinide i just died

[fair fog]

Bexalite over 28 SCU takes over 24 hours to process. Reeeee. Sort of reee.

[atomic lark]

Helix only 50k now too

[marsh harbor]

50k at refinery stations, the shops are either bugged or they are trying to convince people to go there

[fair fog]

@atomic lark for maximum immersion use IMPACT, it has additional instability that you can play on using consumables to mine rocks over 6k size

[atomic lark]

Ive only ever used stampede and optimum

[fair fog]

I used Torpid, Brandt, Surge
Didn't explode

Oh! OH! They now have more than one bullet! That's like a magazine of consumables in slot, not single use

[marsh harbor]

Just wait till you're refining a large batch of Quantainium 😄

[fair fog]

@marsh harbor I can imagine. But, tbh, not a problem. I'm used to Warframe 3 day wait times for new frames

so if you chain your mining, you can have every day a new batch

[marsh harbor]

Gonna need a big cargo ship too

[fair fog]

4x Prospector = 1x Constellation for maximum landing speed

wait, no, 3x prospector

[marsh harbor]

Carting that cargo around in luxury 😂

[fair fog]

Aquila is more agile than other connies and drops to Hurston within short timespan

[proven token]

Once you refine materials where do you sell the refined metal?

[fair fog]

@proven token cities, but for exact places check sc-trade.tools

https://sc-trade.tools

[proven token]

Pain in the butt having to ride trams to sell minerals

[zinc lynx]

How's mining this update?

Roc mining rates get overshadowed by ship minin??

[fair fog]

@zinc lynx in terms of FUN? yes. Ever held perforation drill in your hands?

[zinc lynx]

Money

[fair fog]

@zinc lynx ROC if you can work around bugs
But mining with Impact head feels like https://youtu.be/SpB986PNF48?t=103

[foggy spear]

does anyone know if they have updated where to sell hadanite boxes spawned by rocs? used to sell at grim but it wont give me an option now

[pliant matrix]

just sell them on planet bases where you mine your ores

HDMS basements have trade terminals

[foggy spear]

does it sell there in a box? it would only sell there from my personal inventory or in the roc directly last patch any boxes had to be sold at a NQA terminal

[pliant matrix]

hm? no if the box is in the ship (and the ship have cargo scu) it'll be seen as cargo in the ship

[hardy iron]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Hadanite

[foggy spear]

it didnt work that way in 3.11. it was counted as stolen goods no matter if it came from your ROC or not, and i could never sell at the trade terminals and would have to offload boxes at grim

[hardy iron]

looks like just mining facilities now

[spark hound]

can't sell hadanite, dolovine or aphorite at Stanhope, should be able to sell all three?

[foggy spear]

im at benson now testing it on yela - this is what i get

[crimson mantle]

If you can't buy nor sell anything: it's the sever that's having issues 😢

[spark hound]

It's OK now

[foggy spear]

hopefully i can offload this soon then

[spark hound]

Went out to ship came back and it's all good

[pliant matrix]

I'd the stolen goods thing even in my roc on planet basements. I just had to remove it from roc to put it in cutlass and it works. but yeah I think it's more a server issue. wait a bit it'll (might) be solve in few minutes

[foggy spear]

yeah ok ill keep it in mind - had no luck whatsoever so ill try later

[spark hound]

@foggy spear mine was showing the same on the terminal

[mighty hamlet]

so you cant sell minerals that are mined to port o now? the screen is gone

[civic barn]

Where do you sell ore around hurston

[spark hound]

Go here guys...https://sc-trade.tools

You can look up new places

[hardy iron]

@civic barn your looking for one of these https://sc-trade.tools/refineries

[proven token]

So refinery biz is only worth it if you actually want to transport?

[civic barn]

Is there a list of where refineries are

I got a 50 percent quantanium roc so I need to know the closest place near cru l1 to sell it

[mighty hamlet]

im just trying to sell my load not refine it

where do i do that at

[proven token]

refineries

[mighty hamlet]

im at cru l1 now

at the refinery

[proven token]

theres an area past all the machinery

[mighty hamlet]

cnt see where to sell

[hardy iron]

you can sell or refine ore at the refineries

[proven token]

someone told me cru l1 was gliched though idk if thats true

[hardy iron]

earlier today the screens were glitching when I got close so I waited 5 minutes and they started working

they were going blank

[civic barn]

Any one wanna hop in my server use my mole.i can't crack this roc in my prospector

It's 50 percent quantanium

[mighty hamlet]

how much scu is 96 in the mole after is refined? still 96?

mole got shafted this patch

gonna be time tyo melt my down now

130k for a run i would normally make 300k

[hardy iron]

short answer is not quite, the long answer is that it depends on the kind of refinery method you use and the refinery yield modifier for the ore

[mighty hamlet]

shafted, not worth it anymore for the mole

[proven token]

Idk why mole uses different mining heads if they have the same power and stats

[hardy iron]

I thought it was so you could get different head bonuses like instability -30% from helix and resistance -75% from the lancet for example

[mighty hamlet]

it is

still the mole is pretty uselss now

[hardy iron]

yeah

[mighty hamlet]

a run i would mkae 300k i would only make like 260k after refining and taking wayyyyy more time

time to ccu that shit

[proven token]

disappointing

[civic barn]

Where do you sell or in hur l2

[mighty hamlet]

how is the nomad now for ROC mining?

[frigid raptor]

Quick Question: where is the prefered sales point for refined titanium?

PO EH or Lorville?

[civic barn]

Where is the actual console you use in ther refinery

[frigid raptor]

upstairs on the right(in the building)

on the wall

[atomic lark]

not really, i am finding so many more 50% quant rocks than ever before

so yes you make less for that rock than before but you find them more often and faster

[mighty hamlet]

yeah but its allot more of a hassle and makes the ROC more profitable per hour than the mole now

and the mole is supposed to be a multi crew ship where you split profits

not possible now in current state

maybe the prospector is still a viable money maker but the mole is not now

[atomic lark]

i made 170k in 20 minutes in the mole, not too bad

too many issues with the roc imo

[mighty hamlet]

i made 130k in a half hour and i usually make 300k a run, in 45 mins or so

in port o and out

back to more runs

[atomic lark]

1 quant rock is all you need now, and they are plentlyful

[mighty hamlet]

you can do that with the prospector

dont need the scu of the mole for that

and its a solo

half the money

[atomic lark]

do what you want, we do it alot faster in our mole

[mighty hamlet]

the mole took a hit

and thats from a long time owner

got it the day it was released

we took a hit my man

[atomic lark]

im finding my profits gone up with the mole not down, so i dunno

used to look for ever to find good quant rocks

[mighty hamlet]

not me i made millions in a grind day

i cant now

and i mine laranite and agricium in high concentrations

[atomic lark]

seen 6 or 7 50% + quant rocks in the few hours i played earlier

[mighty hamlet]

where was you at?

maybe i need to change the game up

[atomic lark]

the big belt

close to arc l1

[mighty hamlet]

between arccorp and hurston

i know the one

[atomic lark]

yeah find a rock mine it and jump back to arc l1 quick

that belt used to be pretty barren

and planets/moons were king

[mighty hamlet]

going to try it out and test my profits per hour, but i still think the ROC is going to be more profitable in the long run and thats bs

not very good balancing

[atomic lark]

we mined for a bit in a roc earlier, we had 2 loaded up in a msr

just such a hassle since you cant sell at PO anymore

or everus

[mighty hamlet]

where do you sell at now?

[atomic lark]

refineries

we ended up not being able to sell at all, we lost the MSR to some kinda bug

it went boom

[frail sigil]

I tried to sell at refinery but couldn't

[mighty hamlet]

i thought u sold ore and raw minerals there hadanite is a gem

thats strange

[atomic lark]

i dunno, we landed at everus and couldnt sell the hadanite there

[mighty hamlet]

maybe had to go down to lorville

[atomic lark]

yeah maybe

msr blew up and we went to the mole

[frail sigil]

I just went to lorville and couldn't sell

[mighty hamlet]

that was 400k though if you had 2 full ROC's of hadanite

[atomic lark]

they were both about half

[mighty hamlet]

so 200k

[atomic lark]

yeah

it seemed a bit more rare on ariel than 3.11

[mighty hamlet]

still thats allot for a solo mining vehicle

[frail sigil]

So where do I sell?

[atomic lark]

yeah its hard to say what can make more, i think the space miners have more potential for money but the roc is more consistant

[mighty hamlet]

the mole being its size should make allot more credits on a full load

[atomic lark]

Yeah halving the cost of ore is a little to much imo

[mighty hamlet]

even if they just up'd the cargo capacity

that could even work

[atomic lark]

Yeah if you arnt going after quant i can see how it is a big time nerf

[spark hound]

@frail sigil This tool tells you where you can sell stuff now... https://sc-trade.tools

[crimson mantle]

You can sell Hadanite on the planet you mine it on: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Hadanite

[marsh harbor]

That explains why you don't realise the amazingness of ROC mining 😄

[atomic lark]

Yeah i guess so

[marsh harbor]

Do you have two or three players in your runs?

[atomic lark]

Two

[marsh harbor]

I would suggest trying out one pilot and one miner, then the pilot can scout and find resources while the other guy mines. You'll never have time to stand still

[atomic lark]

Yeah might work

We just had 2 rocs, mine and his in the back of his msr and we just split the minables

2 rocs mine even the 6 clusters pretty quick

We enjoy both ways of mining but didn’t realize we could sell on ariel

We had always gone up to everus

[valid roost]

I did my stuff around HDMS Anderson on Aberdeen and sold there when I was done

[pliant matrix]

little advice. don't stay around bases. it makes you an easy target for pirates. always go 50-100km away minimum

[valid roost]

Yeah I I know. I mean around I mean I went there to pick up the roc and headed way out

[atomic lark]

Hopefully they give pirates an actual purpose

Sometime soon

[crisp prism]

Hopefully not

[atomic lark]

I hope so, keeps everyone on their toes and people will get less upset that someone is killing them for 0 gain

[crisp prism]

0 gain? Why bother then

[atomic lark]

Thats what it is now

I mean they will be less upset when they get killed when pirates actually gain something

Instead now where being a pirate is thought of the same as being a troll or griefer

[crisp prism]

They will get more upset when they lose something

[thorny copper]

Up until pretty recently, the end result has been largely the same

[valid roost]

Griefing to grief. Some try to hold people hostage until they pay and even then it's 50/50 they will pop you anyways

[thorny copper]

I'm all for pirating and making profits off capturing player loot, but just blowing miners or haulers up for seemingly no good reason just sucks

Yeah at least robbery is better

[valid roost]

Me and a buddy blew up a prospector the other day just testing out Tali torps and then gave the guy 100k for the trouble lol

For some reason he didn't find it strange a Tali was flying near him...

[civic barn]

Looking to do mole group add me in game it's same as discord

[hexed harness]

How's the ROC for Mining?

[civic barn]

It's good money just kinda pain in the ass

Marvy you wanna go in my mole

[bright gate]

Blowing up anyone trying to land at a port (and then ramming them if they make it to the pad) is not piracy, no.

[civic barn]

Where is new ollistar ore console

They moved it

[mighty hamlet]

at refineries

how is the msr's hydrogen now? better for ROC mining?

[civic barn]

Where is the closest refiner to ollistar

[mighty hamlet]

CRU L1

[valid roost]

@mighty hamlet they didn't fix the hydro they just gave you more so it's less obvious until you refuel

It's more usable how about that?

[hexed harness]

I have a MOLE. I was just asking about the ROC. My friend is new and wanted to mine on his own. I was going to recommend it. Also the ROC is kinda a nifty car

[tender sky]

The ROC is broken now for mining. The laser does not work at all

I have tried it several times with the Nomad. Also you cannot use it in cargo lifts anymore

[tender sky]

The new UI looks nice though, once it works it'll be an improvement I think, can see it much better

[hexed harness]

Also the door opens randomly

[atomic lark]

My roc works fine, but yes the door does randomly open

Alot

[bright gate]

A while ago (in 3.11) I noticed that a ROC would sometimes become desyned.

As in, from the point of few of the operator the laser did not work at all. From the point of view of an observer, the beams were switched. I.e. the ROC pilot saw a laser while someoen standing next to it saw a collection beam, and vice-versa.

When the ROC was in that state it could not mine anything with either beam (we tried). Claiming it would fix it.

[sand sail]

Any changes to ROC mining I should be aware of for 3.12? Still valuable to go after hadanite?

[bright star]

no changes from the looks of it.

[sand sail]

Cool

[azure prawn]

I believe the ROC arm bug has been fixed?

[bright star]

yes

[azure prawn]

Yeaaaaa

[bright star]

and you can repair ships while ROC on board.

[azure prawn]

no more praying to Chris Roberts to not to bug out my Cuttie

[supple sedge]

looking for some mining mates.. just bought a argo mole and i got litterly no friends to use it :D

just pm me if one of you is interested :) <3

[main grove]

Just so I'm clear as I know I have asked before. ROC mining can only be sold at Kiosks. To use the refinery you either have to own a Prospector or Mole correct.

[supple sedge]

correct

[main grove]

So I will have to save to buy a Prospector in game.

Was going to melt my MSR and get a Cutty, Prospector and ROC but going to wait for the C2 before melting.

[stoic pulsar]

Aye where do I sell Titanium? I took a trip to Daymar and like 2 other places that SC Trade Tools told me to go and the menus keep coming up with nothing

Buy shows up but sell doesn't Commodities show up on the buy screen but not the sell

[marsh harbor]

You need to go to TDD or CBD at the major ports

[stoic pulsar]

So than when SC Trade Tools says theyre up to date on 3.12 theyre lying out there ass than

Cause they got like Brio's Breaker Yard and Reclamation

Neither of which would let me sell this shiznat

[unborn ocean]

someone want mining in ROC with me

[marsh harbor]

Oh, if nothing is showing up at all its a bug

I thought you were talking about a mineral 😁

Is your ship showing in the drop down?

[warm belfry]

guys

now i cant scan rocks with pilot scan?

i mean, i'm soloing with mole right now

and i cant see, what is in the rock in pilot seat

but if im going down to mining laser, i can check the rock

[main grove]

Can you upgrade the mining heads on the ROC?

[pallid temple]

No

Because you don't need to

[main grove]

ok then this rock is just been a bitch

[pallid temple]

Have you got that bug where the ROC's default mode is collection mode?

Because that could be it

[main grove]

No I just started now for the first time using my ROC so not sure if it can do big rocks because with all of them nothing is happening hence the reason i asked about the head because I know from the Prospector that the basic head struggles with most rocks

[pallid temple]

There's hand mineable rocks, ship mineable rocks and then right between those 2 there's a smaller rock

[visual karma]

@main grove the ROC has no other mining heads as of yet so it should be able to break all the rocks it can find besides prospector and mole rocks of course

[pallid temple]

And that smaller rock is for the ROC

[hollow sedge]

So what sorts of materials should I look for when mining in a prospector? I’m not sure if I should even be refining or just selling outright

[bright star]

it's still the same like previous iterations. but this time it's fine to mine lower value such as titanium, diamond, or even Gold. assuming you have a big enough cargo ship to transport the refined ore.

you can still sell the unrefined ones. but their value is half now

[hollow sedge]

Oh schweet. I got a cat so you’d say I can just mine for volume and then refine everything to then haul and sell?

[bright star]

yes

[hollow sedge]

Except for inert materials of course

[bright star]

that's my strat too

[hollow sedge]

Cool. Thanks fam

[bright star]

[hollow sedge]

I haven’t mined since 3.7

This is gonna be interesting

[storm dove]

Is Freelancer MAX rentable at all?

[pliant matrix]

I almost regret having melted my prospector on iae

If cig solve that canopy issue with talon I might upgrade my hornet to prospector again. Refinery system is nice since it's not subject to 30k or log out

[bright star]

i don't think so. still just the base Freelancer.

[pliant matrix]

Only base freelancer or mis are rentable

[storm dove]

k

ty

and base Freelancer can carry ROC, right?

[bright star]

it's a little tight, but it's possible.

[storm dove]

k, thanks

Cutty Black is slightly tight aswell 😛

though Cutty is a little bit cheaper i guess...

[bright star]

sure but it's still considered a "comfortable" fit

Freelancer is like... tightest of tight.

[storm dove]

Ok 😄

so what would be most comfortable and reasonal priced option for ROC then? and now i don't mean any of those gigantic ships 😄

i'm aiming to buy MAX at some point though....

just need more aUEC for that 😛

[pliant matrix]

cutlass fits perfectly honestly

[bright star]

Cutty black

[pliant matrix]

I'm using it more than msr atm because faster and more manoeuvrable in atmosphere

[vapid zephyr]

Why wont the ROC stay on the back of the nomad. I lift the cargo bay up and it starts getting attacked by the devil himself and glitches itself to space

[lethal portal]

anybody had issues with ROC mining, when it completely denies to charge a rock with a laser at 100%?

[vapid zephyr]

You cant mine big rocks

The small minerala you can

[lethal portal]

no, i mean "diamond" ones

[vapid zephyr]

Oh? No i havent had that yet

[lethal portal]

i have a field on Hadanite rocks, but most of them are simply refusing to charge

no matter how long, no matter what distance

sometimes it's just buggy, you eventually can find the right spot

[pliant matrix]

all elevators are glitched. nothing amovible will stay decently on it. be it with nomad, constellation or else

[atomic lark]

mess around with distance too, distance to the rocks matter

but probably just bugged

[vapid zephyr]

Im assuming it'll be patched at some point?

[pliant matrix]

soon TM

[vapid zephyr]

hell ye

Does the cutty black have the same problem? Might aswell rent it till this gets fixed tbh

[marsh harbor]

Try swapping lasers and see if the collection laster makes it charge. If so, you'll need to get a new one

[marsh harbor]

Cutty black doesnt have an elevator, so no problem

[pliant matrix]

Cutlass doesn't have elevator they've doors

[vapid zephyr]

naw I meant the whole glitching through the ship ordeal

[pliant matrix]

and tbh mustang, 300 series and connies already had this issue when I started playing more than a year ago so... wait and wait again

[marsh harbor]

If your ROC is powered off it won't glitch

Need to toggle the laser when you power it on though as it starts pointing up into the ceiling

So whack U then M twice

[nova tinsel]

On an elevator? Yes it will

[vapid zephyr]

I think we mean the cutlass black

[marsh harbor]

Yus

[nova tinsel]

Didn't they fix the laser arm thing on Roc with 3.12

I think I read that somewhere

[pliant matrix]

they were supposed to fix canopy issue too so...

[nova tinsel]

I hate that bug, luckily I rarely ever fly single seaters

[marsh harbor]

They had to roll back the canopy issue as it caused more issues afaik

Not sure about the arm as I haven't used it in 3.12

[pliant matrix]

Talon would be an amazing ship to fly with without this

[lethal portal]

yes, i've seen that situation. So basically if this happens, i need a new ROC?

[marsh harbor]

Need to head back to the outpost and reclaim it, yeah.

[lethal portal]

ok, thx

so many ROC's that Greycat have to go to quantity over quality with their miners ))

[marsh harbor]

I've heard speculation its caused by being in extraction mode when you power off the ROC, but don't think anyone knows for sure as its hard to reproduce

[atomic lark]

Anyone able to crack quant rocks on their own in a prospector ?

[pallid temple]

Its doable with the right consumables

[marsh harbor]

Its "possible", maybe. I wouldnt recommend spending the time on it unless its a smaller boulder. Full size boulders are more geared for coop

Unless you get a good makeup of cheaper minerals lowering the resistance

[atomic lark]

What are the right consumables

Nothing ive done seems to be working

[pallid temple]

Brandt, Rime, Torpid

[atomic lark]

Stampede, brandt and optimum is what ive used so far

My issue is power, i cant heat it up enough

[acoustic patrol]

The Greycat ROC mining arm will now recenter before it is retracted and will no longer be completely offset after getting in and out of the vehicle.
idk if it's the arm fixing you were talking about

[unique badge]

renting a prospector still doesn't feel profitable

it seems to take ages just to make your money back

[wind summit]

And that’s if you don’t get blown up by some random player just flying around.

[fair fog]

if anyone finds this interesting, current processed ore prices at Lorvile for some frequent ores.

https://puu.sh/GZ5xz.jpg

[unique badge]

I'm sure this is not an original take, but I feel halving the raw ore value was a mistake

makes mining so much more difficult for newer players and/or those without a decent cargo ship

[soft rain]

so where is this new gas clouds?

[bright star]

Lagrange points

Hur-L1, L2, CRU L1, L2, etc.

[fair fog]

https://puu.sh/GZ5RD.png
Quick cash-grab! Yay! Undock, first rock, dig

[bright star]

noice! refine those Inert Materials!

[atomic lark]

I tried to refine 1 thing in my ship and sell the rest

After i set one piece to refine my ship was empty

So careful

[fickle zephyr]

isnt coal the most abundant element in our universe or one of them, why is diamonds so expensive in the game?

[marsh harbor]

Ships don't keep the stuff seperated, so you can only dump your whole load

Diamonds are worth about 2aUEC, super cheap

This also isn't our local universe 😄

[fickle zephyr]

is the price dropped in 3.12?

if it isnt our universe, why does earth exist?

[marsh harbor]

I mean it's not nearby, so the mineral makeup could be very different

And yeah, all the raw minerals took a 50% price cut

Ever before that, it was 12th in price. Most of the worthwhile minerals are 20+

[proven token]

big sad

[marsh harbor]

If you have a ship with some cargo space, refine it first

[fickle zephyr]

how does the new system work

ore gets turned into raw?

[marsh harbor]

No, you start with ore and raw, then refine it to the stuff that you used to get in 3.11

Then you get a cargo ship and take it to a main hub to sell

[fickle zephyr]

whats the difference between ore and raw

[proven token]

how much profit increase do you get from refining

[marsh harbor]

There's no difference between raw and ore, just different minerals

[marsh harbor]

Unrefined is 50% of the price from 3.11, refining puts it back to normal price

[fickle zephyr]

so raw didnt get a price cut since raw didnt exist pre 3.12

[marsh harbor]

What you get from boulders is 50% of the price, so it's a price cut

[fickle zephyr]

thats one way to see it

[marsh harbor]

If you do the same thing and get less money, that's pretty much what it is 😏

[fickle zephyr]

how much does it cost to refine

[marsh harbor]

Depends what you're refining and where, each mineral has a price and each refinery a modifier. That's then modified by which refining procedure you pick

[fickle zephyr]

if i buy diamonds at an outpost, its no price cut

cool

[marsh harbor]

That's trading, not mining

[fickle zephyr]

i never specified mining, but sure

nice to get more game mechanics

[marsh harbor]

Considering the discussion was about raw minerals and the value gotten from mining, mentioning diamonds at an outpost is irrelevant

No one said diamonds at an outpost got a price cut 🤷

[fickle zephyr]

i meant to start a new conversation since the channel was quiet for 10min, i could have been more clear

it was more a philosophical thought

[marsh harbor]

Now you're just reaching 🙄

[fickle zephyr]

no that was my intention

whatever

not important

[marsh harbor]

I only hope one day we will be able to sell the rights to the minerals after they've been refined, so I still get a bit of profit but someone else has to haul them 🤔

[fickle zephyr]

yes

there will most likely be quantas buying what you want to sell at the refinery

and even nicer if you can also sell to other players

a marketplace in every station

and city

and the station takes a percentage per time period for storage space until its sold

that would be cool

or until you haul it yourself

[marsh harbor]

Makes sense, they gotta pay for storage space

[fickle zephyr]

would be nice to be able to buy stuff at everus from people that dont feel like taking it down to loreville

like the closer to the factories/CBD/TDD the higher the price

so much potential in this game

and own a refinery ship and buy ores from other players/quantas

just dreaming

time to sleep

gn

[marsh harbor]

Night o/

[subtle comet]

my first time seeing the ROC in-game

[neat geode]

Is anyone else not getting ores to spawn in visually i can scan and fracture but there are "there"

[wind badger]

Dont have the issue with a freelancet MAX

[valid roost]

@subtle comet that poor bastard

[subtle comet]

he was loading it up because the ores there were bugged or something

then that happens lmao

[fair fog]

@proven token go find more of same rocks as you mined and get more money in same time span. Or refine thrice and use freelancer or connie to do the delivery

[proven token]

worried about 30ks when working with that much time onbord of my ship ya know?

[fair fog]

@proven token hm. Yeah, true. But have you tried mining next to refinery?

[proven token]

Such as in the gas clouds?

I found decent ore, but not often. Planets seemed to be waaaay better for ore and %

[lethal portal]

nothing happens during extraction

and why system says during this time "Scan initiated"? What to scan here? It's a bug or i miss some details about new mining?

[marsh harbor]

Try using the fracturing laser?

[lethal portal]

tryed, with all power settings, nothing either

second spot, firs two rocks went more or less fine. Even when it works, extraction laser is now a slowpoke for me every time. In 3.11 it was fine

[drowsy onyx]

Whats the new meta on mining lasers? Helix still king?

[marsh harbor]

Pick the one with the coolest name

[thorny copper]

Yeah so far I havent seen any rocs glitch straight thru the cutlass and blow up

Until now

[atomic lark]

helix still king, but its been nerfed bad

[inland scarab]

Refining is not worth it

[ornate raptor]

hey guys im new to this game but i was wondering where i can sell the hadinite like i have some in my personal storage but when i go to admin it wont let me sell it

[amber terrace]

most moon outposts, stations/ports no longer buy it

[ornate raptor]

so what do i do with it like every guide is like hadinite is the best and all that to make some money

[wind summit]

Try the trade terminals at Lorville?

[ornate raptor]

yea im at lorville at the admin office but it doesnt let me do anything is there another one?

[wind summit]

Trade terminals aren’t at Admin. They are in the business district

Gotta take a train to it

[ornate raptor]

lol theres so many

do i go peremeter or spaceport

[wind summit]

Space port. Then to business

2 train rides

[amber terrace]

either this site is wrong or you won't sell it at business district https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Hadanite

better to sell on the same planet you mined it

[ornate raptor]

i got it from that investigation mission on hurston

[amber terrace]

yeah, i mean outposts on the planet, it's faster than going into cities

[ornate raptor]

like i’m here but it won’t let me do jack

[amber terrace]

not all places buy all items, try site i linked and find location that accepts Hadanite

or it might be recent bug if that location shows nothing to buy and sell at all. Sometimes waiting or switching servers can fix it.

[obsidian thistle]

where do u sell the Roc cargo?

[coarse cape]

You can sell them at the mining station you spawned it at

or at most admin terminals

[obsidian thistle]

thx

[coarse cape]

yeah np

[obsidian thistle]

found the admin but it doesnt buy hadanite.. sold the other ores in my ROC..

[valid roost]

Nothing to buy/sell usually needs to wait for a server tick to populate, hadenite can usually be sold at the ground location you pawned at if you spawned near / on the place you mine

[green sundial]

hadanite can only be sold at mining outposts

dolivine can be sold at admin offices

[peak ore]

was there some significant change to widow economics from 3.11 to 3.12? seems like the rate of selling at GH went way down, whereas other vice commodities are unchanged...

[foggy spear]

can we sell stolen hadaite anywhere? grim wont take it

levski wouldnt either

also has anyone had a bug where the ROC is stuck in reverse? ive spawned it, powered on and it just full throttles backwards

[crisp prism]

Is it Raw Hadanite?

[pallid temple]

There is no such thing as Raw Hadanite

[tranquil wadi]

any one else upset you cant solo mine quant anymore?

[pallid temple]

No

[crimson mantle]

You cannot sell stolen Hadanite at present: https://bit.ly/2J46rmc
Stay within the confines of the law! 😄

[vocal chasm]

@pallid temple why? Seems like a understandable point to me.

Less diversity for solo players

[pallid temple]

There's like 20 other minerals you can mine

You're not exactly losing out by not being able to mine 1 of them

[vocal chasm]

but none that can go boom

some people maybe enjoyed that so why remove it?

Makes sense to me why people like PWERS are upset about it 🤷

[maiden brook]

whats the difference between cSCU and SCU?

[cursive sapphire]

cSCU = 1/100 SCU

[maiden brook]

Which method is the best for refining so far?

[civic barn]

What's the best mining route as far as quantum I need a refining spot close to where the quantanium actually spawns

Cause the boom boom and what not

[maiden brook]

@civic barn use this https://sc-trade.tools/home

[maiden brook]

hmm ok so if I have 1678 cSCU, how much cargo space would that take up in 114 SCU hold?

[cursive sapphire]

1678/100=16.78, round up to 17.

[maiden brook]

ok gotcha now

[cursive sapphire]

just remember that the fractional bit - the .78, here - will take up 1 SCU on its own

[foggy spear]

@crimson mantle really? damn. 3.11 as a pirate was the most fun i have ever had on SC, and brought alot of people back to the game to experience, kinda sad if they have removed this? I hope its an oversight for mineral trading being removed from Grim and its NQA terminals. I joined SC to be a pirate

[maiden brook]

Now that I have in that context I can understand it better

[cursive sapphire]

if you can get to a full number, do so, because otherwise you're carrying around an empty box

[maiden brook]

I made a killing on 1678 cSCU. 72k and that means I basically made 72k on 17 scu lol

[cursive sapphire]

While I'm here, I ran into a weird ROC bug last night. The fracture beam and the pickup beam swapped functions, as in I was picking up hadanite with the mining laser. Presumably if I could have throttled the pickup beam I could have tried to break a rock with it, but without seeing the UI it'd have been hard

No idea what caused it.

[maiden brook]

Havent used the roc lately

[cursive sapphire]

I brought it out for a change of pace. Gave me an excuse to drive the MSR now that the fuel problems are sort of fixed.

[maiden brook]

I know I have been seeing a bug that makes me panic. If you switch from scanning to mining mode, you will see incoming missile message or at least I did. Twice (This was on Prospector)

[hushed crag]

am I missing something about prospector? if I mine a mix of ore + raw, how to do sell the raw but still refine the ore? everytime I go to start a refining order it takes both the raw and refined?

[maiden brook]

did you tick which one you wanted to refine? Did you move the method type?

[green sundial]

what you're putting into the refinery isn't exactly refined

raw just refers to minerals. ore refers to metals

[hushed crag]

yeah I just ticked the ore ones

sorry meant raw and ore

so I clicked te ore ones but both my raw and ore disappeared

[green sundial]

its all or nothing, everything you don't tick will be discarded

[maiden brook]

https://sc-trade.tools/refineries

this list shows which station is best for

[hushed crag]

gotcha, so I would have to sell the raw first?

[green sundial]

no, you can't split your cargo like that

you WANT to refine the 'raw'

[maiden brook]

^

[green sundial]

unless you like throwing away things like Quantanium etc

[maiden brook]

who needs rocks that go boom anyhow lol

[hushed crag]

hmm ok so maybe it is refining it and I am just not seeing it

[green sundial]

raw = mineral
ore = metal
Its all unrefined until its refined

[hushed crag]

gotcha

thansk for clarifying

[green sundial]

🙂

[maiden brook]

see how it says bexalite raw

[green sundial]

so you need to tick the beryl to get it to process

[maiden brook]

yep

Beryl is trash to me

[green sundial]

money is money. refining it and selling will pay for some of the job

don't ever use cormack though

you lose 30%+ of the load

[maiden brook]

oooo good to know that was my first process

didnt see the method until after

[green sundial]

you want the Electrolysis or the Dinyx

[maiden brook]

I asked earlier which was best but no response

[green sundial]

electrolysis is fast and expensive but yields high. Dinyx is very slow, low cost, same yield

when you get quotes, you can see how much each one will cost and what yields you get

[bright gate]

Have had ROCs switch functions between fracture and collection beams several times. Can be fixed by flying to another location and claiming it.

[green sundial]

you don't immediately have to confirm

[maiden brook]

basically if you are in a rush use electro and if you have time to kill use Dinyx

[green sundial]

right. I use dinyx because, I'm never in a hurry

[maiden brook]

Same

[civic barn]

Is helix still the best head for quantanium

[maiden brook]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/alpha-3-12-patch-watch-balance-pass-mineables/3686033

[civic barn]

What I got out of that was roc mine untill they fix refinery

The quantanium timer is so short if you factor in the time it takes to fly the mole.to a station and physically make it to the refinery before the ship blows up

[maiden brook]

Oh I found a nice chart!

[civic barn]

Noice find

[hushed crag]

there is a certain player activity genius to refining, now I have reasons to log in each day to grab my completed orders and sell them off

[pine pumice]

where do you sell hand mineables now?

[bright star]

Hadanite/Dolovine/Aphorite are all sold at most trade terminals. But the best place for now would be at mining outposts located around moons/planets.

Seems like many admin terminals at space stations and cities don’t accept gems anymore.

[pine pumice]

ok

[pine pumice]

thank you, i was able to sell at a trade station

[visual karma]

Is there a refinery bug that gets you money? Someone I was talking to mentioned one and I could really use the help to build up some credit since the trading was nerfed

[tulip scarab]

Anyone else getting TF20 in the Trading Console display for each minerals Units CSCU. when trying to sell refined goods?

ah, just searched and it looks like a lot of folks are getting it

[wide steppe]

is illicit cargo bugged and/or removed in this patch? I can't find anywhere currently selling it out of the places that used to have it

[long crow]

It's a know bug, most of time waiting solves it, but not always

[fair fog]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/kgbox6/312_mining_refining_cheat_sheet/

[midnight frost]

Best way to make money?

[manic whale]

yeah, for those that are good at it. Saw players making same money/time with package delivery or bounty hunting also. ...your choice.

[vocal chasm]

@manic whale wait how can you make the same money with deliveries?? O.O Did they changed the missions in 3.12?

[midnight frost]

Would i be able to do bounty hunting in my Mustang?

Alpha

Or is it to weak

sorry first day playing around

[manic whale]

by accepting and doing all delivery missions for one package company/planet system at the same time. So you fly to one station and pick-up there or deliver, fly to another and so on. ...but not recomended as for server crashes.

[vocal chasm]

@midnight frost since that's a combat related question i'd ask that in the #flight-combat-racing channel and not in the #industrial-professions channel. ^^ anyways gl in the verse 👍

[midnight frost]

@vocal chasm true

[vocal chasm]

@manic whale that lastly worked in 3.10 but not in 3.11 as far as I'm informed so i'm glad that deliveries are back :D

but can you really make 200k/hour with that? Oo

seems very unlikely to me

but it could be a good way for beginners to enter the game

[manic whale]

tried it only 3 times so far, ended always in game crash or another glitch. Not going that way anymore 😄 ...it 100k or so. But for beggining when you dont have access to ROC/Prospector...

[pliant matrix]

Deliveries are the only way for beginners to make decent money. Bounties too but it need at least a titan to chain them

[vocal chasm]

true

makes me sad how the cutlass was removed from the rentals completely

this ship could've been the stepping stone for many new players getting started

as it was for me

[manic whale]

..hand mining too slow and "lonely" in those caves. I was forced to play some youtube music when doing that 😄

cutlass could be still rented

[pliant matrix]

Rent an arrow. It's cheaper and make bounty hunting rentable quite fast

[vocal chasm]

@manic whale also buggy af

@pliant matrix how much can you make an hour?

[pliant matrix]

I'd say 100k with MRT by staying around hurston

Do that until you can buy a cutlass and a roc

For a beginner it'd be the best road

[vocal chasm]

hmm mining seems better to me but for beginners having a choice between roc mining without a transport ship, chaining deliveries or bounties seems like a good enough amount of ways

[pliant matrix]

It's the safest too. No bugged quest or trade risk

30k? Who cares

[vocal chasm]

good point

hmm you made me think

even tho I can make more money with mining maybe I should try these missions out to getting into combat more seriously

as of now idc about single fighter combat at all

[vocal chasm]

@manic whale oh wow well i haven't looked into these terminals yet

[pliant matrix]

That's a safe alternative to mining/trading. Less rewarding by a little of course

[vocal chasm]

mb i guess

@pliant matrix also you have to figure out where to do which missions

[pliant matrix]

It's all in the quest folder. You first do the verification then it unlock bounties quest until more advanced certification get available

[vocal chasm]

you mean personal tab?

[pliant matrix]

Stay at hurston this is were nice bounty are. You just have to check quest giver and only take those of hurdton dynamocs

No general

[vocal chasm]

ah

personal is illegal

[pliant matrix]

First quest is from bounty hunter guild then it'll be hurston dyn

[vocal chasm]

but that's all manageable in your mobiglass right?

[pliant matrix]

Yup

[vocal chasm]

k

good tips thx

[pliant matrix]

Np

[visual karma]

Is refining time like real time?

[elfin stratus]

Yeah, its real time

But you can log off and it will still proceed

[coarse cape]

Or go mining more last I checked

[visual karma]

Alright makes sense then refine, then while refining get more and start another order and so on

[civic barn]

After you refine where do you sell it to do the refineries buy it

[bright star]

you sell them at major cities. Lorville, A18, NB

[vocal chasm]

should we expect nerfs to the roc on this patch?

[pallid temple]

No

[vocal chasm]

why shouldn't they nerf it?

it's too strong rn no?

200k/hour without investment is insane

but ok I'll abuse it as long as it's online 🤷‍♀️

[manic whale]

how much k/hour is it with the Prospector full of high/mid tier commodities, not the rare ones?

[velvet fractal]

is there a good mole loadout i can find somewhere? 😄

[warm belfry]

ye, if you dont get 30k

all the time, if i'm mining, i got 30k

[vocal chasm]

idk it works for me 🤷‍♀️

[green sundial]

https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-complete-test-squadron-mining-guide-v3-12.18373/

the TEST Guide updated for 3.12

[shut sentinel]

3 refined work orders lost due to a CTD. Game crashed RIGHT as I left the landing pad to go sell it all. RIP

[lilac hedge]

is what it is

[vocal chasm]

maybe someone can pin this as an alternative guide additionally to the one already pinned

[manic whale]

...just woke up in sunny day after landing and logging out in bed, in the night with my ship and ROC in cargo 👍

[hollow sedge]

Hey, has anyone experienced in this patch a situation where ROC just won't break the rock anymore (charge level not increasing) or the extraction mode not picking up the gems? If so, is there a solution?

[green sundial]

@vocal chasm thats something a mod would have to do

[vocal chasm]

let's hope they read the chat then ^^

[manic whale]

few times ..I had to rearange my position to the rock (drive to another side) as the power bar was not raising after 100% anymore

[green sundial]

the ROC sometimes seems to hit an empty spot

its weird

[hollow sedge]

I'll try that, otherwise i'll park the ship and change server

[errant cradle]

@half grotto worth pinning?

[hollow sedge]

thanks

[nova tinsel]

Careful so the ship doesnt despawn 😛

[half grotto]

@errant cradle wouldn't hurt

I can go through both later to see how they compare

[errant cradle]

Alright

[green sundial]

I actually don't care if its pinned or not. I have 2 more things to finish writing. a Supplement to the Mining Guide and then a separate Guide in Refineries. I also create new versions every patch as separate threads

[civic barn]

@bright star damn lorville is such a bitch

[bright star]

if you're talking about the fps there? then i agree

but if you're talking about landing? this is not 3.11 anymore

[manic whale]

dont worry ...just died after I rode the ROC out without helmet (and without that bad breathing warning) as I ALWAYS wake up without helmet 😆 💯

[nova tinsel]

riiiip

[manic whale]

yeah 🙂 ...but I was able to retrieve the ship right away without time penalty as nothing happened ..magic is real

[civic barn]

Where specifically do you sell refined ore in lorville

[green sundial]

the jedi temple

the TDD

when you go in trading is off to the left, the weapon display is to the right

[civic barn]

The new deal?

[green sundial]

no no

so when you're at the spaceport you usually go left to the train to go into the city, to the shop and admin office and habs

you instead want to go right to the green marked rail line

[civic barn]

Oh ok

Is there a way to just put ore at the refinery without a work order and do it all in one big batch so I don't have to have a work order in for every quantanium run I do

[pallid temple]

No

[civic barn]

Damn

That would be so nice lol

[green sundial]

it would be

I'd gladly rent a 5K SCU space

[open forge]

Are we no longer able to sell hadenite from hand mining or are we required to refine it now?

[azure prawn]

You can sell it on planetary outposts only

and no refining

I believe you can sell them at the ore consoles at refineries?

[open forge]

Hmmm ok I'll look around some more thanks!

[azure prawn]

Np

[open forge]

I'm guessing Aberdeen is a "moon" thats why I can't sell there?

[green sundial]

right

[azure prawn]

Try Arial HMDS-Bezdek

I selled there

[civic barn]

So if I get out of warp and my ship explods full of refined ore I just lost all that right

[pallid temple]

Yes

[civic barn]

Awesome lol

I waited 8 hours to refine that lol

[azure prawn]

Welcome to SC

Thats why Cargo running is a dangerous thing

[civic barn]

So just sell the unrefined ore then

[hollow sedge]

So folks, anyone found the reason or workaround for the mysterious TF20 sign we get when trying to sell our wares at Trading terminals?

[atomic forum]

Where to buy Lancet MH2 and Brandit consumables??

[green sundial]

https://finder.deepspacecrew.com/ @atomic forum check here

[atomic forum]

Thanks

[green sundial]

🙂

[cobalt shell]

Where would you rent a cutlass black, because I see it says Cargo Office Rentals but I have no idea where the hell that is

[manic whale]

In Refineries look for Mining Support Center

[cobalt shell]

Ahh right thankyou very much

[paper forge]

is there task limit at refinery station?

[pallid temple]

No

[analog summit]

This goes out to all the hard-working space miners trying to just make a living in the 'verse!

The Space Miner's Song
Parody of ZZ Top's "La Grange"
By fRo0tLo0p

If you're flying' 'round
And ya wanna get down
Find an asteroid in La Grange
And you know what I'm talkin' about
Just let me know if you wanna go
And we'll mine all ore that's in range
They got a lot of nice rocks

Have mercy
A haw, haw, haw, haw, a haw
A haw, haw, haw

We can go and mine
If you got the time
Climb on board my Mole and strap in
A hmm, hmm
Laser's burning bright
We can mine all night
The profit's all ours for the takin'
Hmm, hmm, hmm

Have mercy

[modest raptor]

Anyone know how much refined quatanium is worth?

[pallid temple]

88aUEC per unit

[normal drift]

Hi, I've got a bit of hadanite I've mined to test if mining still works on this update -- any areas still accept it as sellable commodity?

[modest raptor]

kk nice

[normal drift]

Looks like outposts can't buy it anymore, just looking for a refining area next to Everus/Hurston

[modest raptor]

Do you happen to have a list with the values of all the refined materials?

[pallid temple]

Its basically the same values as if you went out and bought the stuff yourself

[modest raptor]

Yeah i don't know that rip

Ill have a look on one of the trading websites

[steep vault]

any acurate websites?

[lavish wharf]

uh there is no more quantainium at grim exe

[marsh sluice]

I have not actually "seen" another real player in three days.... and my chat has not been working either. Where is everyone?

[atomic lark]

Anyone scanning rocks in space but then when you get to them you cant scan or mine them

[wind summit]

Yep. Quite a few rocks At least 3-4 each run.

[atomic lark]

So I finally cracked a big quant rock on my own in the prospector

Consumables i used are surge, brandt and stampede

Surge and stampede to crack the big rock and brandt for the smaller chunks

I was using a helix but i think im going to try out the impact

[candid merlin]

where to buy and sell cargo..?

[atomic lark]

so the impact worked alot better than the helix

[hardy iron]

I tried the impact and ended up going with the helix with the brandt, optimum, and surge consumables so far

for me the additional instability reduction of the helix outweighed the rest of the benefits from the impact

[atomic lark]

i cracked a similar quant rock with the impact with only using brandt, i didnt take down exact numbers though

but yeah it was alot harder to crack the smaller rocks with the impact

had to use brandt for them all

but ive tried both so far, helix seemed alot harder to crack the big one

[crimson mantle]

Here's the value of all the ores, raw and refined 😄 https://sc-trade.tools/ores/MISC Prospector or Argo Mole

[crimson mantle]

Depends on your ship and capital, but feel free to explore your options here: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

[crimson mantle]

I keep https://sc-trade.tools up-to-date with the game's files, but the dynamic economy will make the prices vary a bit. Overall, it's all there though 🙂

[civic barn]

How do you actually use the consumables in the mole

I have them euipprd on the ship

[crimson mantle]

I've heard the bound default controls are Alt+1/2/3

[upper sapphire]

I just bought this game and went mining where do i sell items in my ruck sack all i see are the terminals for selling stuff off your ships?

[pallid tangle]

Yo I'm just a young streamer tryin not to die while dealing my drugs got any tips

also sub to mr ballen

[long crow]

in main station and cities Admin post, you will find a trading console where you can sell it. You can also go to mining station on planets and moon to try to sell your stuff 🙂

[upper sapphire]

@long crow i found the terminal at port olisar and it let me sell all my ore but hadanite is that at a diffrent location

[stoic pulsar]

I'm having a dillema with selling Larinite at The Orphanage. SC Trade Tools says I should be selling it there but it's not allowing me to

Is it Raw Larinite only or is it the commodity of Larinite?

[long crow]

hadanite can't be sold outside of mining outpost since 3.12

[civic barn]

How many refinery orders can you have going at 1 time

[elfin cradle]

anyone else having issues selling cargo?

[long crow]

the screen isn't showing anything or you have some TF20 message ?

[civic barn]

Where exactly in lorville do you sell refined ore

[unborn ocean]

were can i buy the ROC

[long crow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTyX4C7YCBNDCsWW1aJJJOEbCmbMyhur1Yyp4mzTVpVQ3ryKLpE5E8AbsufCansBxbGUZ-TUcGFlemn/pubhtml#

this sheet will tell you where each ship is sold

ROC is sold at lorville in Hurston

[fickle zephyr]

and rented in refinery decks

[stoic pulsar]

So like say I destroyed this Caterpillar full of larinite and loaded the loose boxes of Larinite onto my ship

Where would I sell those boxes, Ya know?

[lofty crest]

silkroad

[naive maple]

Hey Y’all... are there different mining heads for the ROC? Which is best?

[modest raptor]

ty :)

[wary nacelle]

So I just finished refining some ore, I have stuff in my cargo, but the trading terminal won't let me sell it.
Do I need to sell it somewhere else or something?

[long crow]

just wait it out for a bit

know bug, usually waiting helps

[real shell]

What mining tool is best for prospector?

And the ROC

[lofty crest]

when it shows no sell its usually a bad server tick

[maiden brook]

So you can only sell Hadanite/Dolvine/Aprohite to the terminals at the refineries now?

[pallid temple]

No

[maiden brook]

so where then

[pallid temple]

TDD in Lorville, Area18 or New Babbage

Or mining outposts on moons

[maiden brook]

Nope.

even HDMS Edwards. They changed up stuff

[unique badge]

anyone else still getting a lot of empty trading terminals?

[pallid temple]

@maiden brook I said outposts on moons

Not planets

[unique badge]

the problem seems worse than last patch

[tardy flower]

Greetings everyone. Can you help me please. Raw need to be rafined and Ore can by sell at the best price ? But sometimes I can mine directly Ore (not raw) ?!

[long crow]

Like @pallid temple said, you can sell them at mining outpost on moons. You can sell Dolivine and Aphrohite at admins trading console, the only one that you can't sell there is hadanite. You should check SC trade tool online, it allows you to see where you can sell what and it's kept up to date

[maiden brook]

Someone was asking on another server about hadanite. I gave them SC tools and the best places to sell them were a bust apparently. So no clue whats going on

[long crow]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Hadanite

Well, that's definitely weird

I could sell hadanite on Friday, tho didn't try since

I was able to sell it on a mining outpost on microtech

He might have encounter the bug of trading consoles

I had to wait 10min for the trading console at port tressler to allow me to sell Dolivine and Aphrohite it was just printing the message tf20 instead of the quantities

[crimson mantle]

The trading terminal bug is very widespread at the moment it seems: if nothing shows up on the buy section, then you won't be able to sell anything either 😢

[candid merlin]

yes it in crusade system as well

[green sundial]

I sold my first load of refined ore at lorville yesterday 🙂

[valid roost]

So from my understanding the rentable prospector is usable to some degree now?

[green sundial]

oh yes

its very useful

[valid roost]

Compared to prior where it was basically pointless

[green sundial]

https://i.imgur.com/qm1MHZE.jpg

sample of what the Arbor can mine now

[mortal kettle]

what mass rocks can rented prospector do now?

thanks

[valid roost]

Noice. I'll run some desynced pewpew get the prospector cash together and go mining

[green sundial]

I did that testing in an evening because I needed it for my mining guide supplement

[valid roost]

Is that just straight lasering or moving around to get it to move faster?

[green sundial]

both

• overclocking

[valid roost]

Ahh

[green sundial]

but again, thats well within the limits of the laser

no consumables used

had to be sure what limits it had

[opal robin]

What stations can you sell ore at?

[velvet fractal]

so me and my friend are mining on arial with a mole and we are not finding any big ores

we are slow too and that may take a part in it

but what is a good mining belt around hurston for the mole?

[green sundial]

@opal robin raw ore or refined?

[opal robin]

Hey so I got the answer in game, was trying to help some one else, turns out its all the L1s 🙂

[green sundial]

ah

well theres also HUR-L2

[cobalt shell]

I keep getting the TF20 Bug whenever I try to sell my hadanite, any workaround?

[green sundial]

where at?

[devout ibex]

same, trying to sell laranite and agricium in loreville

[green sundial]

at the business district?

well hadanite can only be sold at mining outposts atm. refined minerals/ore have to be sold at the major trade places at each planet

the trade development district

or I guess its called central business district at lorville

[zealous pagoda]

hello

I got a question about refineries, are the jobs shared across all locations?

can I enable one at point X and receive the output at point Y? I'm expecting a big no, because it would make no sense

[pallid temple]

No

[steep vault]

what is the max mass a proc can mine?

[green sundial]

depends on the mining head and mass/resistance of the rock

I couldn't crack a 7200 mass .49 resist rock with , the helix

[steep vault]

sweeet

[green sundial]

you can't solo everything anymore

[steep vault]

So quantainium is off the books?

[green sundial]

no

just huge quant rocks would be

a Lancet can mine all the quant asteroids for instance

love that instability/resistance reduction

[bright star]

90 hours

[pallid temple]

[bright star]

i wonder if it persist between patches too

[pallid temple]

I doubt it

I could always ask

[bright star]

i mean i dont think it will with 3.12.1

but what about the 3.12.0i (or whatever letter)

?

[pallid temple]

I'll take the trip to Spectrum

[bright star]

euurrrghhhhhh

[pallid temple]

Well you can't ping them here

[bright star]

i'm tempted

[pallid temple]

Part of me thinks if that they were going to wipe all the refinery orders, they would make us aware of it

Before the patch

[bright star]

but i chickened out... i chose Electrostarolysis

only 7hrs

[modest raptor]

Anyone know how much hadanite is worth per little gem?

[pallid temple]

275aUEC

[modest raptor]

k thanks

[velvet fractal]

how do i use the mining consumables on the mole? is there a keybind or a button while holding f i am not finding

and another more important question, if i want to maximise the power of two of the mole's lasers, which combo would be best? a double helix, or a helix combined with the head that buffs the most?

[green sundial]

well on the mole the center and left cabs are broken for consumables

the right one still works

[velvet fractal]

ah poop, thanks for letting me know - any ideea on the combination of heads?

[green sundial]

https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-complete-test-squadron-mining-guide-v3-12.18373/ scroll down about halfway to mining heads and consumables section

[velvet fractal]

blessings

[green sundial]

I'm just presenting the information and explaining it

[tame elbow]

my org doing more science

enjoy this handy image

[green sundial]

why not Taranite instead of laranite?

[paper forge]

wtf

my 30scu of laranite

all my mined minerals are shown as inert...

[grave trellis]

How long does it take for cargo commodities to become available at trading outposts to buy if they are empty? I heard its about 15 minutes or so?

[paper forge]

MOTHERLOAD

[jade vortex]

Why cant i sell Hadanite at mining facility trader?

T20?

[pliant matrix]

I'm considering trying the mining/refining gameplay (didn't do prospector mining since 3.10 or even before)
If I understand well you mine kinda anything and go to refinery to deposit it and increase it's value then come back with a cargo ship to sell refined materials

So basically only risk is 30k while mining or travelling with refined mats to selling point?

[pallid temple]

Yeah

Once you set up the refinery work order, your ores are safe from 30ks

[pliant matrix]

is there an income per hour evaluation maybe? to compare with other activities (all considering mining rng)

[pallid temple]

Not really

[pliant matrix]

okay. helix is still the head to mine them all?

[pallid temple]

With consumables yes

But there are rocks which you definitely need more than 1 laser for

[pliant matrix]

I see so it changed. before you could mine everything even quant with helix

ah! Erkul say the stock head (arbor mh1) is already better than helix 🤔

[pallid temple]

It's not

[quasi forge]

can you not sell hadanite at bezdek anymore?

[pliant matrix]

you can. I did that like half an hour ago

[quasi forge]

weird it's not coming up as an option to sell

then someone online just said you couldn't so :p them

[pliant matrix]

it's a server bug. wait a bit and refresh the monitor

[quasi forge]

ok thanks was just making sure it was something like that

is there a trick? should I leave the terminal open or keep refreshing?

[pliant matrix]

keep refreshing. it can take 30 seconds like 10 minutes xD

[quasi forge]

eesh

is it normal in this situation that I would see Hadanite grayed out on the left under source, but nothing showing up under acceptable items?

[zenith cosmos]

so is there an issue with buying, couldnt get scrap to appear in CL1 no matter how many times I revisited it or ship I used

[atomic lark]

Id take the impact over the helix now

Helix got nerfed pretty bad

If mining big rocks is your goal anyhow

[wind summit]

man, mining with the argo vs prospector is night and day

[maiden brook]

I wonder if we will have to build up reputation with the refineries eventually to get more bonuses

[bright star]

i can't see why not

i'm pretty sure there's gonna be a mining guild

this T1 rep already got me excited at all the possibilities

[civic barn]

At the refineries where do you buy consumables

[atomic lark]

At the shop underneath

Use the shop terminal, they are also in the middle of the room

[civic barn]

Oh I saw one but it just said clothing at the refinery I may have been at the top part

[pastel herald]

so how does refining laranite work?

I don't mind but I trade and to my understanding one can first buy a cat worth of laranite then refine it for more profit

and also what is currently the most lucrative business?

I used to trade alot of laranite but I feel like that's changed

[crimson mantle]

Not quite correct :)
You can mine raw laranite (https://sc-trade.tools/ores/MISC Prospector or Argo Mole), refine it (https://sc-trade.tools/refineries), then sell it (https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Laranite). But you cannot buy raw laranite at the moment, neither from shops nor players.

Laranite trading hasn't changed since 3.10: you buy the limited stock they have and you sell it off. They did remove some selling points though, so make sure you check they do buy it before you land!

[pastel herald]

oh

im sad

[civic barn]

What set up do you need on the prospector to crack the 5k mass rocks

[dark loom]

kiosks need fixing asap

[minor dust]

^ agree

[dark loom]

everytime they are empty

[minor dust]

kills my mood to trade

[dark loom]

kills my mood to play as trading is wot i need atm

[minor dust]

right

[dark loom]

its bad enough that there are 30k errors and cutty has strife forward issues on take off

makes everything long

[foggy bane]

Ive seen Lancet mining head for control with consumables for power be recommended now. I'll be testing it next

[civic barn]

What's the best consumable for creating power

[foggy bane]

Can anyone confirm if the prospector power plant upgrade affects the laser performance?

Multiple surge consumables to get you up to the target, then you hold it steady

[dark loom]

jus overclock the laser lol

[civic barn]

Ok thanks

[dark loom]

i turn my weapons power off and overclock laser

works for me

[civic barn]

Solid tip