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yeah
So I spawn the roc drive off mine come back and I can sell it at the place I spawned the vechile
Ook.. any trading guru tutors online? Gallog.co aint updated and i just spent 1 hour earning 100k... That doesnt Seem right 😂👍
So I'm getting major torque imbalance on a prospector on microtech, no damage to the ship, get it in both hover and flight mode.
Any cool mining locations where i can use the prospector with default laser? (Small rocks)
anywhere is fine. I usually go to crusader and it's moon since PO is closer and easy to access
Okay, i hope i gotta buy a new laser then.
are gems worth collecting?
honestly if you've a fighter capable of doing bounties go to crusader and farm bounties. you'll make 100k in around an hour (activate call at arms for bonuses)
it can be a plus ofc. hand mining is more profitable than shit rock imo
oh k
advantage with hand mining now is you can scan with any ships even small and faster ones than prospector. and you doesn't have to be picky on what to gather.
just be prepared with adapted suit for atmosphere conditions
I can't wait for that new mining interface
Ola, please someone can tell me if hand mining is bugged or not?
yeah me too. roc is actually a pain to see. everything is so small
the energy level meter stay 0
Does the roc have its own scanner
@fleet temple Unfortunately there's no way to pull data straight from the live servers at the moment 😦 The moment there is, I'll be sure to include it!
Even if people reported prices, they would stay accurate for less than an hour.
@lethal cedar Sorry to hear that! I'm open to any feedback though, so feel free to let me know what you think could use some work. As for help/tutorials, there's these explanations (https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq) and this video (https://youtu.be/dqVhs1cGhmo).
In this slightly different guide to Alpha 3.11, we create a trade route that has been optimized and adapted to us. We use all the functions of https://sc-trade.tools/ to get the most out of us!
We also look for the best moons and planets for mining with the ROC, the Prospector or the ARGO Mole. Do you see the places with the highest density of ...
@fathom silo I'm always happy to give some advice!
Hand mining isn’t bugged. It’s likely you’re attempting to mine something too large for your tool. The size of hand mineable nodes are about 0.11 mass or so. If you see a node with mass 0.75 or higher, that requires the ROC. And if mass is in the thousands, that requires a ship.
You can see the mass is above 0.1 in the third number
yes, I understand, what is ROC exactly?
The Greycat ROC (Remote Ore Collector) is a single-seat mining ground vehicle. It is designed to mine larger crystalline mineral nodes that are just beyond the reach of a hand tool. This single seat vehicle is small enough to be transported in ships such as the Cutlass Black, Freelancer and Valkyrie allowing you to take it to the newly added min...
Thanks ! But I never found a little rock to exploit with my multitool, where can I find this kind of stuff?
Mostly in closed mines/caves
I newer saw mines or caves too 😦
Closed mines appear on the planet map. Caves can be found through "missing clients" P.I. quests.
Technically there are hand-minables on the surface as well, but you have to fly very close to them for them to show up on the radar.
Well thanks for informations
No problem
is there a way to improve the stow speed? it takes 5-10s between crystals
Not that I know of.
is drug trading still a thing?
In small quantities
Places buy like 2/SCU per min: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/E'tam
Ruined Cargo run in my early cargo run stream CAT disappeared
I like when my roc blow up while entering MSR after a 45min run... doesn't feel like I wasted my time xD
BMM price has increased, has something move with its development? :o
no just cig inflation xD jk idk
Should I buy a Cat, the C2/M2 Starlifter, or MOLE?
I got a caterpillar anyone want take a noob to do trades?
@chilly dome Here's some things to consider:
- do you have friends in-game/an org?
- can you work up the capital to fill these ships?
- do you like mining?
- do you like space trucking?
@dusky shoal You could give a look to https://youtu.be/dqVhs1cGhmo
In this slightly different guide to Alpha 3.11, we create a trade route that has been optimized and adapted to us. We use all the functions of https://sc-trade.tools/ to get the most out of us!
We also look for the best moons and planets for mining with the ROC, the Prospector or the ARGO Mole. Do you see the places with the highest density of ...
And here's a short summary of how trading work in Star Citizen: https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq
k
Hmm not a fan of the catapilar I've decided
Yeah some people don’t like cats prob since you can lose a bunch of money off of it if the server 30ks or you get shot down
cat is nothing fun to pilot but it makes it's purpose. it's a money maker (when everything go fine)
do i need to make any upgrades to the ROC for it to be effective? (a la the helix on a mining ship)
As the dev of SC Trade Tools I can say it's up-to-date (from the game's files of 3.11.1).
*Live server data may vary with player activity
I'd avoid famous cargo road like arial lorville. availability of laranite is already at minimum
couldn't even fill an MSR just half an hour ago
Usually titanium traders fill on Laranite first, hence it's always empty.
ik that's what i tried xD
problem is laranite is very very lucrative even in low quantity
Indeed, after the vices, it's the best profit per unit
39scu of laranite available at bezdek now xD
If you trade rare stuff, you can always use the "Alternative commodities" button: https://i.imgur.com/vPay6FM.png
This way you know what sells at your destination.
yeah well titanium is almost always second better. just it doesn't make a lot of profit
with a39scu of laranite and 76scu titanium I made 20k profit
Bezdek-Lorville
is there still the vice lab near lorville on the coast? I can't find it on sc tool?
yup thx. it doesn't appear if I put vice commodities only
actually neon and e'tam doesn't have road
nvm there are but not for nomad. too big probably
Make sure you uncheck "Avoid hidden locations" in locations
or my 500k invest cap wasn't enough
Also most vice trades only show up with "Allow wait times" enabled
I'd all that. just if you make a too big amount nothing appear
or too low idk
for example if I put 100 000 uec nothing appear but if I put 80 000 there is roads
It's easier if you send the long link you get from the result page
But the reason is because you haven't checked "Allow wait times"
Vice buyers only take very small amounts 🙂
just got a roc - where's a good place to start?
Aberdeen or Arial
https://sc-trade.tools/mining
ty
i've always struggled making money in this game so i thought i'd give mining a try
ROC mining is very decent money. Make sure you have the heat armor.
yup - you get that at hurtson right?
i kept my money and armour after a character rest 
how do i sell my ROC inventory
Have it close to an outpost, either in a ship or by itself.
Then go to the regular trade terminal in the building with the Red thingy
ROC gems are regular commodities, do not go to a refinery terminal.
when we get the Hercules C2 ingame I'm going to load it up with Hydrogen so I can roleplay the Hindenburg at least once
Finished my Hangar for this year today
been drooling over it since may
Now I just need to learn how to run cargo
any tips / vids?
I see the https://sc-trade.tools/
some asshole killed me before i could mine my first rock
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@upbeat pagoda I'd give a quick look at https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq and possibly https://youtu.be/dqVhs1cGhmo 😉
In this slightly different guide to Alpha 3.11, we create a trade route that has been optimized and adapted to us. We use all the functions of https://sc-trade.tools/ to get the most out of us!
We also look for the best moons and planets for mining with the ROC, the Prospector or the ARGO Mole. Do you see the places with the highest density of ...
With big bulk trading like that, going for high refresh rate commodities (https://i.imgur.com/3XNgXCy.png) or rare stuff with a plan B (https://i.imgur.com/OGiEvFW.png) is usually how it goes.
I usually only trade in commodities with >25-33% of my cargo capacity in refresh rate, personally. Of course, you can adjust with your risk level.
how do you even get to 1 million auec?
like, every time i invest a few hours into this game i just get fucked over by bugs and make hardly any progress
Managed to do it trading with a freelancer
how long did that take you?
but doesn't that progress just get reset?
aEUC earned hasn't reset in like two years.
On upgrades sometimes purchased stuff dissapears (never ships, just smaller things)
1 year
Yeah, it was last fall when it reset wasn't it
Officially, 3.8.2 which was this year, was the last wipe without a patch
But 3.7 is considered the last major patch without a wipe
maybe because i only check in around events so there's more server side glitches? idk
Quick Q, best MT moon to take a Roc to?
@crimson mantle can you DM me? You’ve got dms turned off and I understand why, you’d get bombarded otherwise.
Arial
is this a bad trade
If your are cargo trading, that video that was posted higher up is very informative.
Do not Cargo trade if you are looking for massive gains; You will make much, but you have to be smart. Find a product that not many people are trading. You'll be directly competing for other players, so go a little bit off the beaten path; Like Cellin to Lorville will get you approximately a 18-21% profit for some goods there.
I have a very, VERY, particular resource I trade, which isn't traded often, so every run I can max my capacity between the two points and make max profits. Best of luck space truckers.
!gib trade_route max aUEC
whats the trick to mining? i rented a prospecter and can't get any of the rocks I find to mine
Better laser head or a friend
Lots of good rocks can’t be mined solo... oh maybe a consumable
cant repl;ace expo rental heads
I know, I don’t think you can use a consumable on a rental either
Whats the percentage or amount you'd leave in your bank to prevent complete demoralization after a 30k
I plan on not making big trade until I've 1mil safe in the bank
I lost 200k yesterday and it already bother me enough to be under 1mil again
What's best spot for prospector mining
Can the ROC mine FPS rocks?
No @crisp prism ROC can mine rocks between the prospector and hand mining
imagine it like trying to fit 1L of water into a 250ml cup
So ROC overcompensates for hand mining, but can't make it to S1 prospecting?
Yea, if i remember correctly ROC is the passage between hand mining and ship mining
Where are some ROC mining locations?
every moons
Can't seem to find any on surfaces and the Daymar cave is too shallow to enter
best is to put the roc into a ship like cutlass and scan around for mining ore
I tried that for a good while, but I only found 5-7 t rocks
you wont find as much as with a prospector for sure. filling a roc can take an hour sometimes more if unlucky. but it's a 200k 💰
I'm not here for quick profits yet. I like the minigames of mining a lot more than combat rn
Are there better scanners for the Mole available?
Maybe something that tells me kind or composition in the cockpit?
anyone wanna take me to do cargo together?
Every scanner can tell you rock type and composition. When you find a rock, hold left click when you’re close (about 500m or less) and it will do a scan to tell you what it is and what it has.
Q1: Are the moons all the same size?
Q2: is the ore distribution on one moon more or less the same on the entire suface?
I'd say no and yes (kinda-ish)
Is there a decent and cheap upgrade for cutlass black? mostly for cargo running
connie or freelancer?
right but I do want some sort of firepower while chilling solo xd
MAX is not really that right

hmm
well past the cutlass its really a choice you have to make. do you want to haul more or kick more ass?
Corsair may be better for you then
I have a sabre to kick ass I guess
it has guns guns guns and alot of cargo
corsair has a lot of cargo? O.o
interesting
but it really needs a crew in irder to use all the guns
I mean it has amazing pilot guns it seems
it does
I don't know you'd have to look at the brochure
but it may be your best bet for a compromise to firepower and cargo
in general though after the cutlass its a choice of cargo or pewpew with varying degrees one way or the other
could do an MSR, don't need to fight when you can zoom zoom
msr fast you mean?
it is
can also carry data later when that gets in the game
you can rent one ingame now at a rental terminal iirc
go check it out
yeah I've talked with someone about MSR but seems like a pretty annoying ship
can imagine
yeah seems like that
Note: The Freelancer MAX will do 120 SCU of Cargo, and still mounts the same amount of firepower of any other Freelancer: 4x S3 Gimbals on the waist, with a turret on the back
pilot guns? xd
That's more than the Connie, MSR, and very likely the Corsair, in a Freelancer-sized package
Yes, those 4x S3s are pilot guns
how is that more than corsair?
Sorry, I wasn't clear. The cargo capacity is more than the Corsair
ship costs about 2.1mil aUEC in-game, as well.
isn't it slower than basic freelancer tho?
probably
which is already a small brick
Very probably. But if the intent is "more cargo with some guns to defend myself", the MAX will get it done
yeah that is kinda of the point.. just slowly want to get myself set up to make money xd
mostly with a combat ship and a medium cargo hauler I guess
money is about mining today. cargo is too unstable. you'll earn 300k by betting 1.5mil two or three times and then lose 1.5mil. back at the start if you didn't lose
combat and bounties are decent but takes way more time than mining
I fully suspect he's talking closer to release, Theadriel.
yeah not really for today xd
so yeah. once the game is stabilized cargo will be interesting
sorry I didn't got that part xD
I basically meant after it get's fully persistent (and when there's an actual reason to make money)
honestly, if that's your goal, MAX is probably a good way to go. Fairly cost effective, just the right size for a solo pilot without missing out on too much functionality, and gives you plenty of paths to upgrade in the future when you start hauling cargo
mining also seems interesting but idk how viable that is.. and I think it's not too bad to make money with cargo/combat and then purchase a prospector.. they are quite cheap ingame right
actually mining is maybe the most viable solution to make money. A roc is 170k and is a better income than prospector who cost idk something like 3mil
In the future there wont be mining without cargo so both should be viable
i can bring a roc in MAX? xd
yeah but it's not the best. it's very tight and glitchy
The MAX is actually one of those best suited for carrying a ROC just because of how wide the bay is
the regular Freelancer is a very tight squeeze, by comparison
and the ROC is dirt cheap in-game; 172k
yeah I mean that does sound perfect then 
really seems like upgrading cutlass to MAX almost has no downsides besides a little maneuverability
In your specific use cases, I'd agree
if you were planning on using your MAX for... more nefarious purposes, I'd probably suggest sticking with the Cutty, but
like what exactly?
since the Cutty is more offensively-minded, it's probably going to be a better hunter/pirate than a Freelancer MAX. That maneuverability and extra pair of S3 guns will be important on imposing your will on other people, and the side doors make getting in and out easy in zero-G. But a lot of that gameplay isn't in, yet.
fair enough.. but I also have a Sabre for combat and might upgrade that sometime to warden or something else for hunting/pirate purposes
or even corsair
I don't need 1 ship to do everything I guess
Corsair seems like it will be interesting in the future. You know a Drake Explorer isn't built just for exploring stars
yes I'm aware and very interested xd
sabre is a good starting point to upgrade to something like that and it has lti aswell
So i'd be fine with losing some "combat" potential going to MAX
I feel like MAX is mostly gonna be used for chill hauling and if a friend or two play it seems like a more fun ship aswell
I love my MAX
its not too terrible in pve combat either tbh
you'll take a few hits, but its such a tank you rarely get hit thru the shields anyway
sounds good yeah :p
I tried chasing down a pvp bounty in a MIS with it, even thicc mama max dodge the missiles
lol
I decided to get a MISC Hull A. We now have cargo decks and expect to have cargo run game loop in the near future. Crossing my fingers on it
Well we already have trading as a gameplay loop
True but the Hull series is where it's at
sure would lie something similar to a Charon from Eve in this game
fuck me, I spent all of my money to purchase cargos. Then, I ended up lost all of my money that I cannot find where to sell it in the spaceport
now I only have 2aUEC now
what spaceport?

you can't sell much there but I think medical and some toher stuff
then all cargos are gone
Ouch
I have nothing now
well you could try an account reset
i counldnt find where to sell it, when the system says they are going to restore my ship, I cannot make my way back to hanger
may give you your cash back if it hasn't been updated
I spent 40k on my cargo and that is all I have
It could simply be stored. Don't panic.
but storing the ship doesn't get rid of the cargo
cargos are gone
did you claim the ship?
That's why I'm waiting for cargo deck runs. Cargo will be contract based and not out of your own pocket
I cant find it on the ship
then where I can find place tosell it?
If you reclaimed the ship through insurance it's gone. Otherwise it should be there. Go check at the trading terminal. Boxes don't always visually show in the ship.
the admin office
go to the galleria
There is. The office has closed doors and is yellow with a stylized "Admin" on it.
what was the cargo?
Distilled Spirits
ah
bought from Euterpe
Port Tressler will buy your Spirits, no problem: https://sc-trade.tools/shops/Stanton > microTech > Port Tressler > Admin
I am using this web
Not very fast, but they buy
I lost like 40% of my money
Could you sell all of it? They don't buy a whole lot.
Now that you maxed them out, they will buy 2SCU/min.
I cant sell it
Or you can try to go sell it elsewhere, like in the big cities
it says server error
Yeah you have to quit the terminal and come back every once in a while.
that 2 SCU/min is a limit shared between ALL active servers
Might take some time at Tressler as they don't drink that much booze 😄
so you're competing to sell your goods against everyone else
If you have another ship you can do some missions and come back later, there's no problem.
^
Well
Yeah, always keep an eye on that pesky "refresh rate" next time. https://i.imgur.com/3XNgXCy.png
I recommend putting in something like >25-33% of your cargo capacity.
Well, you're right in that in-game nothing tells you!
Which is one of the reason I made the website.
shit, I game crashed
No problem: stored ships are saved
now I cannot find my ship from the selling list
let me check if it still in insurance
You only lose money if the last place you landed was an outpost that cannot spawn your ship back.
Do not claim your ship through insurance: that will empty it.
If you insurance claim a ship, the previous ship is gone and you get a new one: no more cargo.
now I cannot see the cargo from the selling list
If you claim the ship through insurance, the cargo is gone 😦
but I did not claim the ship
still cannot find the cargo from the selling lsit
done for today
Bugs and crash can make it pretty harsh 😦
big old 2aUEC
How to fix the issue when Rock Energy Level isn't moving anymore
Is this related to my character / my ship? Or to the asteroids?
Yeah mining laser totally dead
sometimes it's the server. energy lvl not moving and suddenly all red blowing in your face
Sounds like a server 30k inbound
First mistake is doing cargo during a free fly
personally i feel like people act like 30ks happen more than they actually do... like people saying cargo is impossible rn are out of their mind.
but like during a free fly, that’s when it’s real risky
didn't had trouble doing cargo on last week except when the buddy I was flying with decided to change server and logged me off during quantun travel...200k lost
but servers are pretty fine
I'd more server issue with mining actually. energy gauge going suddenly crazy and boom
Just use consumables for a safety net
hi guys
just a simple cute question
how much does it take to have 1 million UEC assuming i have a caterpillar or the biggest solo minning ship please ?
hard to say rn I guess
with cargo it depends how much aUEC you already have
lets assume i have the max to fill the caterpillar (which is biggest SCU ship right now)
idk I heard people were flipping 1m into 1.3m with 1 run or something
which doesn't take that long I guess
it's gonna take ages to build some money with cargo though
and you can currently still lose everything due to a bug if you're unlucky
Did they get rid of mining consumables? I went to dumped depot at PO and it wasnt above the mining heads. Also if they didnt which do you all recommend for q-type asteroids?
Consumables are still there. I use Optimum for Quantanium rocks.
if anyone wants a crash course on mining/running cargo let me know!
thank you @steel monolith
When I found this asteroid, it didn't seem like it had this much quant in it. It was only 4% of the mass.
first asteroid of the day, lol
how do I check if how many cargo is used?
There isn't a way in the interface right now. If you're in a mining craft, extending your mining arm should give you an indication on how much is being used
is hurston a good planet to mine with roc?
No
@dusk swallow If you want to stick to space, feel free to take a look at https://bit.ly/37cFXXP
There's filters for just the valuable stuff if you want to.
how do i flip my roc?
Don't suppose any of you gents could suggest a profitable trade route? I haven't got much time left on this cat rental
Go wala area 45 or 56 to area 18
What goods? Laranite and titanium?
I personally go laranite
If you can't find it lmao
How's the payout? I'm looking at 100kish running from Arial to Lorville
Is it just me or is there nothing at area 45
When the trade tool says “amount” does that mean the SCU.
Yea I was getting it too @sand sail, I've resorted to other planets really weird
Yeah it was strange. I wound up heading back to Hurston. Then some weird glitch blew me up and I lost like 400-500k of cargo and now I don't have the cat anymore so it's back to making pennies for me ;-;
Happened to me twice yesterday, so annoying
Yep. The past two days for me have been a nightmare. I made my first million only to now be just under it. I'll never own my own caterpillar
@sand sail rent cutlass black, get Roc, fill it, haul it to mining outpost, sell to outpost
repeat mining
I'll look into it, but I don't know anything about mining or even what an ROC is
@sand sail https://puu.sh/GRW7C.jpg
you fly in a ship, tab to use scanner. You find gems, you land and roll car out.
Press M to extend mining arm
mouse scroll to regulate power. Get it to stay in green zone. Red - boom.
Right mouse click to switch modes. Left click to vacuum.
if you will carry it in cutlass, doubletap M when powering up car.
Always power down AND close door before liftoff.
Sounds complex. Kinda like deep core mining back in E:D
the core of it: left click, scroll up-down, wait
The core of it is to manage with server lags
if I parked at spaceport and got destoryed
do I still have the cargo if I am not going to claim the ship/
I'm just about to start with the CAT, any tips?
if destroyed I don't think so. if you'd been disconnected sometimes you could get your cargo back if you're selling in the spaceport where it's parked
I think that was back when laranite was still a thing
but trading is extremely dangerous due to the risks of 30ks
Best minig locations for ROC?
I tried arial yela and aberdeen so far. I'd say arial. Aberdeen have too many rocks (not mineable) so it's difficult to land properly. And yela visibility is bad with snowflakes
The Mole seriously needs some front lights
Not really. It's way easier to fly than it looks
There's that. But as long as you're not flying like an idiot, you're more likely to lose your cargo to some obnoxious glitch rather than a mistake on your part. And unfortunately, there's not much you can do about that
i have on occasion been extremely lucky and had my ship and cargo intact after a 30k
but i was docked or about to dock
it's worth checking the admin panel and seeing if you got lucky before claiming your ship
yeah it happened to me once. got 30k while entering hurston hangar
I went to trade terminal and sold it all
one day, far from now, the game will be bug free (enough) and have a dynamic economy (enough) and stop resetting progress to be worth investing serious time into
because you'll be way more likely to get a valuable return for your time, unlike right now where you can play for a whole day but lose everything to bugs
you can play a whole day without losing anything. just don't trade
my experiences with the roc say otherwise, that buggy is cursed
made two runs last night. except I barely got hadanite (shame luck then) everything went right.
sure you've to manage server lags for energy but well it's playable
what do you mean for server lags?
when scrolling your laser power the reaction on the rock energy lvl is somehow always laggy. sometimes you'll see your rock explode suddenly too
yeah that's happened a lot
my main problem is flipping, i haven't managed to successfully right it yet
good point is it's not as punishing with roc than with prospector where it can literally blow up your ship too
haaa yeah I got that too a lot at first
well drive slow and land your ship so the door touch the ground well
also don't mine on too edgy cliffs
If you request landing, your ship is saved at that position.
No need to land per-say, just request it.
So you can "checkpoint" your run by requesting landing at an orbital station on the way.
The only problem really is when your "saved" location is an outpost that cannot spawn your ship.
i learned the the hard way yesterday
I meant when carrying your roc on a planet. it's buggy sometimes when you try to climb the ramp and there is a gap between the ramp and the floor
that's why I now avoid aberdeen. it's full of cliffs and rocks making landing a pain
yeah and i have an msr and she's a big girl
I'm thinking about renting a cutlass. lighter and easier to land than msr. it's a shame since I took msr to make roc run easier xD
im all about that smuggler life but after playing for 4 years i realised that mining is the only way to make decent money in the current game
ive like never had over 200k aUEC at any point in the alpha
because the payouts for missions are crap and you can only make good money trading once you have lots of capital
how can I reach the aaron halo best?
you can make 200k by farming bounties in like an hour and half. Less depending of your ship and if you doesn't have to repair or resupply
🤔 I'm doing cs4 and it's 5-6k each (not counting call at arms bonuses)
dunno how to get more. if there are more
It's a nice starter for making money without risk. Once you get enough you'll be able to do cargo without losing it all and starting over. I advice getting a million before starting light cargo. 2-3mil before going cat
and here i was doing full MSR runs with like 90% of my funds at stake 
putting all 80k on the line for a 14k return
What annoys me the most right now is that consumables mostly don't work in my mole turret.
xD good luck
prospector worth getting or just get roc ingame?
Prospector's nice because it can be pretty consistent mining that isn't reliant on another vehicle. Having both honestly isn't a bad idea
kind of just thinking to melt my sabre and get prospector + cutty black and just earn other ships ingame I guess
If you've another fighter it's a nice plan
Or if you doesn't do fight
There is an arrow or hornet loan with prospector if I remember right
for SC you mean?
I mean later I can just earn money for fighters.. I feel like it's just smarter to get money making sorted instead of "fun" ships
Yeah well gladius or arrow are around the million so with a prospector you'll do it quite fast
And roc is 172k and is more profitable when everything goes right
still weird to me that the little go cart can make more than a prospector
Yeah. Prospector mineable goods should get a rise. How can a full roc do two or three times a prospector?
that kind of makes prospector useless it seems
It does
I melt my prospector actually
I'm making as much with dolivine with roc and faster
Yeah don't mine Dolivine
And dolivine isn't hard to find
You'll make it faster with Hadanite
Yes but on last run I mostly found doli so after a while I took it instead of keep searching
Better than nothing kinda
Where were you mining?
Always had good results on Arial
Too cliffy and field is a pain to land properly
I stick within a few 10s of kilometers of Bezdek
Yeah I made a full Arial run in less than an hour once on arial
Full hadanite I mean
I don't know if it's real, but feels like there's more stuff to be found near the mining stations
I've dropped in other places far from the outposts and found nothing for miles and miles
I'm talking relatively near
Like at least a couple minutes flying time at full speed
I keep Bezdek locked as a reference point
Just so I don't start backtracking by mistake
Yeah same so I can retrieve roc and go back selling there
Too bad I can't refuel msr there
Why not?
It never worked. Maybe the size not being accepted
There's a dumb bug that it won't let you refuel anywhere if you have a roc inside
Maybe because landing request failed because of the size
I don't think the landing services apply to any ship at these small outposts
I'm thinking about renting a curry for Roc mining
PB is only for land vehicles I think
Seems way easier
Cutty*
Msr is great but too big to land anywhere. I'm losing lot of time finding a good landing spot so roc can climb back in
Does cutty need any trick to put roc inside? Or is it going in smooth?
Not like freelancer where you need to push for it to enter?
lol no
(just realized that convo could work in a very different context 🤣)
for sure
Anyway will try that next time. Cutty sure would make me earn time and won't require me to refuel every 45 min
Shame that nomad isn't working well for now
I took two ships for roc carrying that doesn't work well atm
Yeah but too expansive
Star Citizen - Cutlass Black & Greycat ROC gameplay
Heading out from Port Olisar to Daymar for some ROC mining adventure
GPU: GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor
RAM: 32 GB RAM
RES : 1920 x 1080
lmfao
Yeah it fit pretty great. Just need to be careful to have all wheels on ramp
yeah ramp is a bit narrow at the end
bit it fits fine
you can bring 2 I think
xD
If you doesn't close the door maybe
I heard some people made three roc enter an msr
yikes
Anyone with a Mole? I wanna do some mining
Anyone looking for a cargo pilot?
maybe try in #looking-for-session
is the elevator of nomad going to get an fix at some point? I mean all elevator are buggy with vehicles on them
I tried both
Hello I have a question, if I quit game but my ship have cargo, will I lost the Cargo ? I need to stock my ship in a station ?
I'd say most likely yes
you'll lose it
even if stocked.
also if you have time to stock it then just go to the closest location possible and sell it
I can’t sell it that the problem, trading consol broken haha
aww. never had a console being broken actually. what does it do?
Yep, in outpost impossible to see my ship in the trading console
🤔 I see. maybe a sign server will crash. is your ship landed on a pad or close enough to the station?
Is it area 45?
No, moon of Hurston, Arial
aaaand this is why i never make any money in SC
Hooo so sorry for your mining
Yes. It's an issue with every elevator right now that extends outside of the ship's static physics grid. It affects a huge number of ships in varying different ways, so expect it to get a fix at some point
it actually sucks since a year or more from what I heard. with connies and mustang mostly
It's been a while, yes. But one of the ships they've been actively working on involves working on dynamic physics grids, so it shouldn't be much longer, hopefully
I hope too. I took nomad for carrying roc but it's bugging too much. I wasted two run about it
I'm considering upgrading it to cutlass but I don't like it xD
what's wrong with cutlass
I don't like it's design. too rustic I guess xD
freelancer xd
even worse xD
connie?
I like ^^
get aquila
too expansive and would prefer phoenix actually. just for luxury xD
rather have taurus lol
lool I'd like to know what it'll be. And connies rework too
if taurus gets 150+ scu it's a good deal
they just seem way too sluggish to fly
even a freelancer runs circles around it
connies are fine but barely made to defend themselves with turrets or shoot from 4km. out of that they're useless in battle
did you melt the MSR yet
🤔 not planning on melting it
how come
why would I?
I'm lookin' for folks who are hauling cargo; who either don't want to do the flying themselves or have a spare ship that they need someone to fly. Any takers?
lol
MSR except hydrogen issue is working fine. just not perfect to mining with roc but so far I'm good with it xD
don't really see any other reason to get MSR atm
I've made bounties with it with a friend. works fine too with the turret. and it's a pretty ship ^^
I've have bought it if it had 4 s3 pilot guns
2 s3 is a bit of a joke
I'd almost ccu to wb msr for ccu value
sabre (170$) > msr (260$) is only 50$
🤔
I've nothing in sight to replace it honestly. Maybe vanguard but I can buy one ingame soon
idk if I want to do it xD it's a great deal I guess
if it gets fixed it seems like a good replacement as multi role ship from cutty black
what do you think
totally. I mean except pilot firepower it does everything better than cutlass
yeah that's definitely a concern though
I basically still have a nomad ccu after i'd get MSR, so I could get some cheap fighter for bounty/pve
Thing that really interests me is that I could use msr as a bit of an explorer since it should be able to traverse long distances without refueling? 🤔
should be yeah but it's more of a fast cargo kinda. It's like take the data and deliver is asap other way of the galaxy
data gameplay seems interesting aswell tbh
@pliant matrix would it be better to upgrade sabre to like a corsair > msr.. or melt sabre and start with nomad first xd
think melting is better
I'm planning on getting the Cutlass, but figured I'd buy the Nomad game package first then upgrade for LTI
But then you don't get a hangar that cna fit the Cutlass it appears?
ofc you do
You do? So the Nomad comes with the Self land
But if I CCU that to Cutlass, then I wouldn't get the industrial hangar from the cutlass game package right?
Pretty new so just trying to figure out best option
no clue how the hangars work with ccus
Cool thx anyhow, I guess ill have to see what happens haha
the hangars aren't that important anyway I guess xD
Yeah I don't know much about them, I guess no one really spends much time in them lol
Might as well be out in the game
Although supposedly eventually you can spawn from them in game
Something look off?
Can the ROC fit in a Constellation?
Yes
yes
Sorry @steel monolith went to sleep. It was 4am and was dead. Congrats on msr
Yes but it's the same problem than with nomad (in worst). Your roc might glitch out of elevator sometimes
Uh oh
Also tbh you'll lose lot of time moving from point to point and finding a decent spot to land
Cutty way better for roc(king) in the verse
Hello! What are the recommended commodities to running trade with on my MSR?
Constellation Phoenix + Roc = no go. Roof of cargo bay is lower and glitched arm will stick into the ceiling causing ROC to bump all around until fixed. Since arm glitches often, it is possible to lose ROC during transport between spots or en route to selling gems.
Andromeda is fine, if slow in atmo. Aquila is best out of all constelations.
But same elevator issues for all tho. Your roc might fall while you raise it
if you look at ROC while it's raised and see all 4 wheels, it glitches less
I usually place ROC in bottom right quadrant of platform if you look at ship from above. Character stands in top left quadrant of platform.
Arm almost touches right wall, but should just be a bit not touching.
Could you make good profit with ROC ?? It's better then mining with Prospector for example ?
when it works well definitely yes
Considering to change my C8X Pices for ROC while Carrack come whit it's own Pices so basically don't need two
LoL 172k so cheep 🤣
buying one with credits is my #1 goal right now, but I keep losing cargo to server jank and haven't even quite had 100k at once yet
should improve after freefly I imagine
just do an hour or two of bounty mission and you'll get your 172k easy
Is a hauling with cat still a think ?
yes if you've invest power and doesn't fear 30k
am not great a dogfights if there's more than 1 enemy
what fighter or assimilate ship do you've?
Well I have made like 2 millions with my cat in 3.9 patch and a still got them 😅
Cool
I see. well either you find someone to get into a turret in MSR and it'll be easy to farm bounties or go with 125a. it's decent for some missions. you'll struggle on some of them but I think it's doingable and still better income than losing your cargo
And now iam just haul some scrap time to time for 28k profit and iam fine 🤣
lol I'd not have enough of 2mil. it'd barely pay me a sentinel
Titanium and Laranite are still to go commodities right ?
yes and no. so overtrade their value are constantly down
the few times I do trading I try to take variant less refresh commodities
Diamond looks good to but there are just few places to buy them and those places are no weapon free 😅
profit come with the risk 😉
Full cat of diamonds to Lorvile is like 85k
Titanium is about 58k
But there is a bug on landing zone Lorvile right now ?
I've been doing diamond runs from the Cellin mining location and selling at Area18. bit of a long trip but I get 30% profit
That your ship want be stored right ?
even if stored you can still sell your stuff
it's not a bug I think it's just a lot of people come and go at lorville so spot are needed
especially large spot
Lots of waird shit happend to me on Lorvile 🤣
Like somebody spawn Andromeda on top of my Cat and I have to pay for damages
never had any issues there so far. except cat being so slow the hangar door are closing the time I get to it
Could haul with Carrack is allmoust the same
you can also do that. it's pretty fast
I cannot go to Lorville
my rendering gets extremely broken if I visit Lorville, so I cannot ever go there.
I've also found that SC trading tools site to be way, way, way off in values
I don't know if it's manually updated or what, but I don't think it's been updated in a while
@crimson mantle will explain better than me
Valk?
I'd rather be broke than do ROC mining, I value my sanity too much
I confirm cutlass is best for solo mining. and roc sucks for getting on it's back way too often. Just lost 34% hadanite run
you can mine with cutlass?
@fallow wagon The website is updated automatically when a patch hits, but from the static game's files. The live servers have a dynamic economy that make the prices fluctuate with supply and demand. This means that the website is always optimistic compared to the live servers. See https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq for more details.
By and large though, the prices should still be in the same ballpark. The commodities with a high "refresh rate" will be more accurate than the ones produces in small quantities.
I take valk because of 3 reasons.
- its agile and with vtol handle pretty nice around planet - its dropship.after all.
- it carry 2 rocs that means i can mine for longer.
- its fuel efficient, i can mine straight 5hours without refueling
in that way i never lost any load because of random ramp glitchyness or lack of space, i can mine around 400k worth of hadanite within 1,5hour before i sell stuff and most importantly i dont give a damn F about 30k's because i wont loose any materials even if it occurs.
why is that?
Yeah last part intrigued me
Connie the elevator is often buggy which mean you might lose your roc either while getting in or rarest on flying.
Freelancer is tighter. It works but glitchy af
Cutlass is a bit larger and it helps quite a lot
I'm definitely upgrading nomad to cutlass later today. I don't like its design but it's really useful
If you get 30k on planet, your vehicles get stored there. With ship its a problem because you need to claim it on spacesport. But ROC gets stored at planetary outpost. After 30k you come back to nearest outpost on same planet and just retrieve ship with all inventori inside it
only 2 out of 10 times one of them was unable to retrieve becasue "we are unable to deliver that ship a this moment" bug. But still i got money from 2nd ROC
Wow now and when you drop in space whit roc on board of your ship ?
Then it's gone ?
i lost my roc, it blew up and now I can summon it
@snow maple if you can't summon it on this moon, go to other moon, claim it there
This is the trick, you try to stay at same planet or near it as long as possible, move outside orbit only if nessesary. If i summon my ship at daymar, i just keep mining there, no point leaving it. That reduce time you are exposed to loose this wonderfull cargo
So if I lose my ship because idk I logged out or got 30k I can come back and sell what I mined at a station on that same planet
No
Also if I log out from ship bed I'll still arrive on that same planet into the ship
but "After 30k you come back to nearest outpost on same planet and just retrieve ship with all inventori inside it"
You can't retrieve ships from outposts on moons or planets
by ship he meant roc I guess
Read this slowly
If you unload ROC hada into box and keep it at ship its gone. This is why i keep 2 of them to always have hada stored inside them.
last 2 days the ship retrieval console was empty xd
thanks I'll do that.
Any way to see what kind of ore it is without going out with roc? without leaving the ship cockpit then
@pliant matrix In scanner mode, hold left mouse button on the rock. You have to be close.
Yeah I've been doing it but it doesn't work. also aiming at a small rock isn't easy xD
In nomad? xd
no cutlass or msr
didn't tried with nomad and wont since I updated it to cutlass 10 mins ago xD
Msr should have a good scanner I guess
anyone know if the scanning turret on connie aquila can use the standard tab scanner?
It's a manned turret I guess
I've been flying Aquila for days and never used turrets because I fly solo. Huh. Might check out the turrets then.
Is the Prospector better than the ROC? I have an LTI Prospector that I'm considering CCUing to something like the MSR
much better
@steady willow I only hear people saying they make a lot more with ROC
So if you find a wreck and find the little boxes of stuff, where do you sell them?
Is there a special requirement to store all commodities that are in ROC or just a delay?
so far it never lets me do it on surface, only when ROC is inside ship.
be sure to take a multivitamin with vitamin D and zinc in it since its winter and we dont get much sunlight now
@steady willow i bet next patch Prospector will be better, because you won't do much refining with ROC
is there a best in slot for prospector reference?
Is the Nomad designed to be able to transport the Greycat Roc or not?
well but why not? I mean - either shorten the Rocs Tyre lengs or elongate the Rocs Cargo bed a few cm. Because - I can make it go with the ship - but not without a hassle..
I tried and stopped trying xD didn't finished a run with nomad/roc. Made 200k today with cutty/roc. choice was done I upgraded nomad to cutty
Hey everyone I was wondering if anybody knew when the hull c was going to possibly be flyable I don't know if I missed something like news or something
@faint fern you can fit it, just get good at backing it in
what would be a good upgrade to msr actually (flyable or soon). I mean witch can do some cargo without being too much of a brick
c2 (or herc series) seems like a natural upgrade but well too little informations on them for now
Carrack?
barely flyable solo (flyable but not defendable)
Msr is quite big for solo already
you can fight in pve quite easy still
Well c2 is too big i guess xd
The Star Runner is not a solo ship
works pretty well solo depending what you do with it
ofc.. basically just lacking firepower then
works fine for cargo or whatever you wanna do
but idk if anything bigger is viable xD
else you get to C2/carrack
c2 seems to be a one or two people ship. so flyable solo too. second person should be on a turret or scan maybe
seems like there is a turret on the back
not the same price as c2 xD
i'll join you on C2 xd
not the same firepower 😄
No pirate is going to mess with the 2 ROC miners while 2 gunners sit in the Perseus next to it 😄
I want to take the upgrade so bad but 100€ to add is a bit too much
msr to c2 you mean?
yeah
bigger and supposed to be easier to pilot than a cat so yeah interesting
Carrack is a decent and safer hauler than a cat, but that's just me.
for the prospector, do i have to laser the right part of the asteroid? my laser seems to not have any effect at 100%
I guess this question falls under cargo but I'm not sure tbh. Do we know how many ships will be able to land in the hangar of the endeavour?
@fallen blaze what is the content of the asteroid?
i cant remember now, quite a lot of quantanium
yep
was probably a server issue
unlikely
the stock laser just doesn't have the power you needed
its only good for lower mass, lower resistance rocks
so is it worth buying the ROC out right or just renting he prospector. with upgraded bit
172k for ROC in-game
worth it to mine with, do several runs and you can buy a prospector in a few days
I bought 3 ROC's due to randomly 1 or 2 will bug out and can't retrieve vehicle or claim.
(work around: is to go to another planet and claim ground vehicle).
nice, how many hrs for that?
usually about an hour and a half a run
a little longer if the rocks suck but i got great spots @quartz laurel
im working a method now to make 400k plus a run in the same amount of time
but that is hush hush for now
yesterday I made approx 415k almost 2 full ROC s
how long did it take?
1 full crate in ship cargo and the other partially filled ROC
approx 2 hrs, but I was lucky finding stacks of 12 very close by
wait.. you can drop you carts in tthe cargo ship hold and go off for more?
yes
so in a ship like say the mercury star runner how many loads could you do before you had to sell?
access ROC cargo and select an option to store all to a crate
I was actually using the MSR and had to stop due to hydrogen low on fuel down to 22%
but if you had the cutty black you wouldn't have that problem
you could keep going
you could shut ship off though correct?
i keep it running landed to scoop fuel
ahh
very slow but does help a tiny amount
so you scan in the msr?
enough to reuse on launch and get to slow cruise speed. Yes u can scan
every ship can
interesting
i would kinds suck looking for rocks in the roc just driving no?
could the msr fit 2 roc's?
@quartz laurel
yes, you can easily fit 2 rocs in the MSR
so essentially making double the credits
this has me thinking
i believe this can be more profitable for a duo like me and my wife over one mole
you can in theory just run around in the ROC on the planet, but it might take you longer to find all the good spots while driving also prone to griefers / pkers looking for easy kills.
You would need a supply of o2 pens etc
even a freelancer max can house 2 rocks easy
give it a shot, it's good fun
i think dual roc's running out of one msr we will be racking in the credits
so on a normal day what is the time it takes you to get a full load of hadanite?
on average
because i know its not exact it isnt in the mole
problem with the MSR at the moment is the bug with fuel usage, it runs out very very fast.
absurdly fast.
what would be a better ship
if you fly in uncoupled mode while in space it doesn't burn as fast
and in atmo is just depends
rlly
yeah
nb is really bad for msr
just dont use afterburner as well
i dont burn much anyways when i roc mine
no ab use at all
how is the nomad for hydrogen fuel if you carry the roc around?
i heard the fuel issue for both nomad and msr is going to be fixed next patch but not confirmed exactly when
hmmm sounds like the cutlass red it is then
you go to ariel or aberdeen to mine hadanite @quartz laurel ?
heard they were both good
both are good yep
daymar used to be the go to but seems to have changed
you can still find hadinite on daymar but it's more hit and miss.
easier on the suit and lower grav.
Anyone looking for a crew member/newb
MSR fuel should be fixed in next patch btw, there was a ticket with confirmation on adjustment
wait so how do you fuel scoop
it's automatic
I think if you're moving you scoop more (since you're moving through more space), so if you decouple outside of atmosphere and just ride the solar winds you'll regain all your hydrogen
ah
fuel scoop is only for hydrogen though
yeah
fuck
my msr
despawned on me
and now im stranded
and my map doesnt work
and my roc flipped
did you log in from resting in your ship's bed?
Where do you buy the helix head
nah it just uh dipped
I ask because there's a bug where if you logout in your ship's bed, log back in, land your ship and get out, it'll despawn
even if you fly around without getting out for an hour
so say we all
Do I want the helix 1 or 2 head
Helix 1 has less range than Helix 2. Other than that, there's no difference
Also... Helix 1 is S1 and Helix 2 is S2, meaning S1 will fit on both the Prospector and M.O.L.E, while the S2 will only fit on the M.O.L.E
Helix II can operate to up to 300meters. With MOLE its crucial to efficiently mine with all turrets and keep safe distance
Are there planets where you doesn't need heat/cold suits?
Arc Corp I guess
I meant moons sorry
considering moons generally wouldn't have any atmopshere, much less a habitable range, I don't think that'd happen
so it was suggested I should get a better mining laser head for my rented prospector?
I only have like 16k, is there any particular ~10k one someone would recommend?
Size one Helix for 108k aUEC is absolutely needed. Otherwise you are wasing so much time just finding rocks you can even mine.
like this one?
What's the best spot for quadrinium
LF1M for Mole mining...
I feel like I have to take a full class to understand mining in this game
and also have hundreds of thousands of credits to even start mining
Come join me, I can help 🙂
And I could do with another person
Can make between 150 - 300k per trip
Is yela best spot for quantanium
@pulsar maple thanks but I think I'm done for now, got other stuff to do
jump on either a mole or cargo haul to get that money up. solo mining on rented aint really worth it
No worries dude, Feel free to hit me up if you need help
much appreciated 👍
Does anyone know when the new mining ui is coming out? Is it 3.12?
3.12
Any other spots beside yela I'm striking out here
Daymar has the best yields for any types of mining
Hey Guys, do any of you know a good place to mine? (prospektor)
just lost all my aUEC on a bug (just filled a caterpiller to the max, next secound its gone.... had to claim it again)
i know i shouldn't have used all my aUEC, but the server was very good so took the chance -.-'
follow the 30% rule
Big profit are so tempting. With a 1.5mil cat you can make 300k and in 15minutes
That's why I want to climb with mining to 2-3 mil and then make big gambling
yeah i know, i had a weak moment XD
If you want to mine and earn big profits, get either a Helix S1 (108k) or Hofstead S1 (10-15k) mining head and head over to the surface of Daymar. You should search for rocks that you can mine with your laser head (some might be a little to hard) and gives decent profit. Here's a chart you can use:
thanks, i have the Helix so np there... but i might try Daymar xD
Daymar has the largest source of Quantainium deposits I've seen
Assuming you know how to handle volatile cargo, that's pretty good profits
okay will go to daymar'
hearingexplosioninthedistance
I never take quant except if I've 60% or more of good stuff inside. you just never have time to mine anything else and must go back to sell instantly
feels good selling your mining haul just to have a 30k happen after youre safe lmao
Quant mining is simply the best way to make money with a pros
just spend the extra 10m to find a quant rock
yes but the best is to find a quant rock at the end of your run. like when you've70-80% of your pros full
I'm tempted to get a mole. seems like a decent amount of money and safer than roc with all the small issue possible
I can ccu from msr to eclipse then mole for 30€
ROCs are very safe right now
the only real risk is game crash or 30k
game crash can be saved by being in a party to rejoin
30ks affect prospectors too so meh
Ive been earning upwards 200k/hr in the ROC
and ending on your back or being targeted by pirates (happened to me last night)
though I get a lot more doing trading atm with how stable things have been...
like in the last 24h the trade terminal demands have seemed to kinda lax
so I was able to fill an entire cat with laranite and sell all of it in one go
well rent of massive ships will ends soon so yeah trading will return to normal
I never flip and to avoid pirates just dont mine at a POI
grab your roc and get the hell away
youre more at risk of pirates by being near crusader than hurston
because of grimhex and SPK
I was on arial when a dude fps killed me to take my cutlass and roc
how far were you from the nearest POI?
he got blown off in space when I claimed cutlass xD
including orbital markers
something like 50km away from bezdek

