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civic barn
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Does aberdeen have a spot where I can sell the ore from the roc

coarse cape
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yeah

civic barn
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So I spawn the roc drive off mine come back and I can sell it at the place I spawned the vechile

fathom silo
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Ook.. any trading guru tutors online? Gallog.co aint updated and i just spent 1 hour earning 100k... That doesnt Seem right 😂👍

spare bridge
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So I'm getting major torque imbalance on a prospector on microtech, no damage to the ship, get it in both hover and flight mode.

ocean trench
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Any cool mining locations where i can use the prospector with default laser? (Small rocks)

pliant matrix
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anywhere is fine. I usually go to crusader and it's moon since PO is closer and easy to access

ocean trench
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Okay, i hope i gotta buy a new laser then.

pliant matrix
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100k are fast made even with small rocks

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helix head is buyable at po too btw

ocean trench
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are gems worth collecting?

pliant matrix
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honestly if you've a fighter capable of doing bounties go to crusader and farm bounties. you'll make 100k in around an hour (activate call at arms for bonuses)

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it can be a plus ofc. hand mining is more profitable than shit rock imo

ocean trench
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oh k

pliant matrix
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advantage with hand mining now is you can scan with any ships even small and faster ones than prospector. and you doesn't have to be picky on what to gather.

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just be prepared with adapted suit for atmosphere conditions

civic barn
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I can't wait for that new mining interface

verbal wagon
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Ola, please someone can tell me if hand mining is bugged or not?

pliant matrix
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yeah me too. roc is actually a pain to see. everything is so small

verbal wagon
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the energy level meter stay 0

civic barn
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Does the roc have its own scanner

crimson mantle
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@fleet temple Unfortunately there's no way to pull data straight from the live servers at the moment 😦 The moment there is, I'll be sure to include it!
Even if people reported prices, they would stay accurate for less than an hour.

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@lethal cedar Sorry to hear that! I'm open to any feedback though, so feel free to let me know what you think could use some work. As for help/tutorials, there's these explanations (https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq) and this video (https://youtu.be/dqVhs1cGhmo).

In this slightly different guide to Alpha 3.11, we create a trade route that has been optimized and adapted to us. We use all the functions of https://sc-trade.tools/ to get the most out of us!

We also look for the best moons and planets for mining with the ROC, the Prospector or the ARGO Mole. Do you see the places with the highest density of ...

▶ Play video
SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

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@fathom silo I'm always happy to give some advice!

last flame
verbal wagon
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@last flame

pallid temple
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Yep, that's a ROC rock

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You won't do anything with a multitool

crimson mantle
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You can see the mass is above 0.1 in the third number

verbal wagon
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yes, I understand, what is ROC exactly?

pallid temple
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The Greycat ROC

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A ground mining vehicle

crimson mantle
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Star Citizen Wiki
ROC

The Greycat ROC (Remote Ore Collector) is a single-seat mining ground vehicle. It is designed to mine larger crystalline mineral nodes that are just beyond the reach of a hand tool. This single seat vehicle is small enough to be transported in ships such as the Cutlass Black, Freelancer and Valkyrie allowing you to take it to the newly added min...

verbal wagon
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Thanks ! But I never found a little rock to exploit with my multitool, where can I find this kind of stuff?

crimson mantle
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Mostly in closed mines/caves

verbal wagon
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I newer saw mines or caves too 😦

crimson mantle
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Closed mines appear on the planet map. Caves can be found through "missing clients" P.I. quests.

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Technically there are hand-minables on the surface as well, but you have to fly very close to them for them to show up on the radar.

verbal wagon
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Well thanks for informations

crimson mantle
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No problem

uncut wharf
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is there a way to improve the stow speed? it takes 5-10s between crystals

crimson mantle
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Not that I know of.

undone socket
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is drug trading still a thing?

crimson mantle
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In small quantities

muted rapids
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Ruined Cargo run in my early cargo run stream CAT disappeared

pliant matrix
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I like when my roc blow up while entering MSR after a 45min run... doesn't feel like I wasted my time xD

paper forge
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BMM price has increased, has something move with its development? :o

pliant matrix
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no just cig inflation xD jk idk

chilly dome
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Should I buy a Cat, the C2/M2 Starlifter, or MOLE?

dusky shoal
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I got a caterpillar anyone want take a noob to do trades?

crimson mantle
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@chilly dome Here's some things to consider:

  • do you have friends in-game/an org?
  • can you work up the capital to fill these ships?
  • do you like mining?
  • do you like space trucking?
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@dusky shoal You could give a look to https://youtu.be/dqVhs1cGhmo

In this slightly different guide to Alpha 3.11, we create a trade route that has been optimized and adapted to us. We use all the functions of https://sc-trade.tools/ to get the most out of us!

We also look for the best moons and planets for mining with the ROC, the Prospector or the ARGO Mole. Do you see the places with the highest density of ...

▶ Play video
dusky shoal
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thanks

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but I dont have startup money

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wanna someone take me to be familiar with it

frail knoll
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Then do scrap runs

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You can say how much money you initially have on SC trade tool

dusky shoal
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k

pseudo arch
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Hmm not a fan of the catapilar I've decided

coarse cape
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Yeah some people don’t like cats prob since you can lose a bunch of money off of it if the server 30ks or you get shot down

pliant matrix
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cat is nothing fun to pilot but it makes it's purpose. it's a money maker (when everything go fine)

hollow sedge
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do i need to make any upgrades to the ROC for it to be effective? (a la the helix on a mining ship)

crimson mantle
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No, it's good to go!

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In fact, you can't upgrade it in any way.

hollow sedge
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amazing, thank you

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gallog and sc-trade tools up to date?

crimson mantle
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As the dev of SC Trade Tools I can say it's up-to-date (from the game's files of 3.11.1).

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*Live server data may vary with player activity

pliant matrix
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I'd avoid famous cargo road like arial lorville. availability of laranite is already at minimum

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couldn't even fill an MSR just half an hour ago

crimson mantle
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Usually titanium traders fill on Laranite first, hence it's always empty.

pliant matrix
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ik that's what i tried xD

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problem is laranite is very very lucrative even in low quantity

crimson mantle
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Indeed, after the vices, it's the best profit per unit

pliant matrix
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39scu of laranite available at bezdek now xD

crimson mantle
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This way you know what sells at your destination.

pliant matrix
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yeah well titanium is almost always second better. just it doesn't make a lot of profit

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with a39scu of laranite and 76scu titanium I made 20k profit

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Bezdek-Lorville

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is there still the vice lab near lorville on the coast? I can't find it on sc tool?

crimson mantle
pliant matrix
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yup thx. it doesn't appear if I put vice commodities only

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actually neon and e'tam doesn't have road

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nvm there are but not for nomad. too big probably

crimson mantle
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Make sure you uncheck "Avoid hidden locations" in locations

pliant matrix
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or my 500k invest cap wasn't enough

crimson mantle
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Also most vice trades only show up with "Allow wait times" enabled

pliant matrix
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I'd all that. just if you make a too big amount nothing appear

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or too low idk

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for example if I put 100 000 uec nothing appear but if I put 80 000 there is roads

crimson mantle
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It's easier if you send the long link you get from the result page

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But the reason is because you haven't checked "Allow wait times"

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Vice buyers only take very small amounts 🙂

pliant matrix
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haa ok I see

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well I did waited a bit when I got a full freelancer of neon xD

fallen blaze
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just got a roc - where's a good place to start?

crimson mantle
fallen blaze
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ty

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i've always struggled making money in this game so i thought i'd give mining a try

crimson mantle
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ROC mining is very decent money. Make sure you have the heat armor.

fallen blaze
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yup - you get that at hurtson right?

pallid temple
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Yes

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Tammany and Sons in Lorville

fallen blaze
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i kept my money and armour after a character rest parrot

worn raven
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how do i sell my ROC inventory

crimson mantle
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Have it close to an outpost, either in a ship or by itself.

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Then go to the regular trade terminal in the building with the Red thingy

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ROC gems are regular commodities, do not go to a refinery terminal.

worn raven
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thx

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was a bit confused cuz you have to go to the refinery for normal mining

green sundial
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when we get the Hercules C2 ingame I'm going to load it up with Hydrogen so I can roleplay the Hindenburg at least once

upbeat pagoda
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Finished my Hangar for this year today

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been drooling over it since may

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Now I just need to learn how to run cargo

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any tips / vids?

fallen blaze
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some asshole killed me before i could mine my first rock

coarse cape
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f

fallen blaze
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mined for an hour, then my roc flipped and trapped me in the terrain

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cursed

crimson mantle
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@upbeat pagoda I'd give a quick look at https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq and possibly https://youtu.be/dqVhs1cGhmo 😉

In this slightly different guide to Alpha 3.11, we create a trade route that has been optimized and adapted to us. We use all the functions of https://sc-trade.tools/ to get the most out of us!

We also look for the best moons and planets for mining with the ROC, the Prospector or the ARGO Mole. Do you see the places with the highest density of ...

▶ Play video
SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

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I usually only trade in commodities with >25-33% of my cargo capacity in refresh rate, personally. Of course, you can adjust with your risk level.

fallen blaze
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how do you even get to 1 million auec?

fallen blaze
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like, every time i invest a few hours into this game i just get fucked over by bugs and make hardly any progress

bright gate
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Managed to do it trading with a freelancer

fallen blaze
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how long did that take you?

bright gate
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And some ROC mining

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A few months.

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Not a very hard player.

fallen blaze
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but doesn't that progress just get reset?

bright gate
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aEUC earned hasn't reset in like two years.

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On upgrades sometimes purchased stuff dissapears (never ships, just smaller things)

pallid temple
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1 year

bright gate
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Yeah, it was last fall when it reset wasn't it

pallid temple
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Officially, 3.8.2 which was this year, was the last wipe without a patch

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But 3.7 is considered the last major patch without a wipe

fallen blaze
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maybe because i only check in around events so there's more server side glitches? idk

upper gulch
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Quick Q, best MT moon to take a Roc to?

lethal cedar
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@crimson mantle can you DM me? You’ve got dms turned off and I understand why, you’d get bombarded otherwise.

quasi forge
river jasper
hollow sedge
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If your are cargo trading, that video that was posted higher up is very informative.

Do not Cargo trade if you are looking for massive gains; You will make much, but you have to be smart. Find a product that not many people are trading. You'll be directly competing for other players, so go a little bit off the beaten path; Like Cellin to Lorville will get you approximately a 18-21% profit for some goods there.

I have a very, VERY, particular resource I trade, which isn't traded often, so every run I can max my capacity between the two points and make max profits. Best of luck space truckers.

hardy ravine
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!gib trade_route max aUEC

lethal cedar
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whats the trick to mining? i rented a prospecter and can't get any of the rocks I find to mine

spare bridge
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Better laser head or a friend

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Lots of good rocks can’t be mined solo... oh maybe a consumable

lethal cedar
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cant repl;ace expo rental heads

spare bridge
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I know, I don’t think you can use a consumable on a rental either

upbeat pagoda
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Whats the percentage or amount you'd leave in your bank to prevent complete demoralization after a 30k

pliant matrix
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I plan on not making big trade until I've 1mil safe in the bank

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I lost 200k yesterday and it already bother me enough to be under 1mil again

civic barn
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What's best spot for prospector mining

crisp prism
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Can the ROC mine FPS rocks?

azure prawn
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No @crisp prism ROC can mine rocks between the prospector and hand mining

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imagine it like trying to fit 1L of water into a 250ml cup

crisp prism
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So ROC overcompensates for hand mining, but can't make it to S1 prospecting?

azure prawn
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Yea, if i remember correctly ROC is the passage between hand mining and ship mining

pliant matrix
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yet it's more profiting

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with less invest

crisp prism
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Where are some ROC mining locations?

pliant matrix
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every moons

crisp prism
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Can't seem to find any on surfaces and the Daymar cave is too shallow to enter

pliant matrix
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best is to put the roc into a ship like cutlass and scan around for mining ore

crisp prism
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I tried that for a good while, but I only found 5-7 t rocks

pliant matrix
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you wont find as much as with a prospector for sure. filling a roc can take an hour sometimes more if unlucky. but it's a 200k 💰

crisp prism
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I'm not here for quick profits yet. I like the minigames of mining a lot more than combat rn

dusk swallow
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Are there better scanners for the Mole available?

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Maybe something that tells me kind or composition in the cockpit?

dusky shoal
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anyone wanna take me to do cargo together?

last flame
uncut wharf
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Q1: Are the moons all the same size?

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Q2: is the ore distribution on one moon more or less the same on the entire suface?

pliant matrix
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I'd say no and yes (kinda-ish)

steel monolith
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Is there a decent and cheap upgrade for cutlass black? mostly for cargo running

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connie or freelancer?

green sundial
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do you just want to do more cargo?

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then a MAX may be better for you

steel monolith
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right but I do want some sort of firepower while chilling solo xd

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MAX is not really that right

green sundial
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hmm

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well past the cutlass its really a choice you have to make. do you want to haul more or kick more ass?

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Corsair may be better for you then

steel monolith
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I have a sabre to kick ass I guess

green sundial
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it has guns guns guns and alot of cargo

steel monolith
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corsair has a lot of cargo? O.o

green sundial
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it can carry damn what was it

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72

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which is more than the cutlass 46

steel monolith
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interesting

green sundial
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but it really needs a crew in irder to use all the guns

steel monolith
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I mean it has amazing pilot guns it seems

green sundial
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it does

steel monolith
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4 s5 and 2 s4?

green sundial
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I don't know you'd have to look at the brochure

steel monolith
green sundial
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but it may be your best bet for a compromise to firepower and cargo

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in general though after the cutlass its a choice of cargo or pewpew with varying degrees one way or the other

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could do an MSR, don't need to fight when you can zoom zoom

steel monolith
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msr fast you mean?

green sundial
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it is

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can also carry data later when that gets in the game

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you can rent one ingame now at a rental terminal iirc

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go check it out

steel monolith
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yeah I've talked with someone about MSR but seems like a pretty annoying ship

green sundial
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it has bugs atm

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it'll get ironed out

steel monolith
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having only 1 exit doesn't seem like a bug

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just an annoyance

green sundial
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thats true

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and its a complaint of my own

steel monolith
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can imagine

green sundial
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overall its a nice ship

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afk

steel monolith
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yeah seems like that

last flame
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Note: The Freelancer MAX will do 120 SCU of Cargo, and still mounts the same amount of firepower of any other Freelancer: 4x S3 Gimbals on the waist, with a turret on the back

steel monolith
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pilot guns? xd

last flame
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That's more than the Connie, MSR, and very likely the Corsair, in a Freelancer-sized package

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Yes, those 4x S3s are pilot guns

steel monolith
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how is that more than corsair?

last flame
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Sorry, I wasn't clear. The cargo capacity is more than the Corsair

steel monolith
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ah right

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yeah price is also a lot better xd

last flame
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ship costs about 2.1mil aUEC in-game, as well.

pliant matrix
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isn't it slower than basic freelancer tho?

steel monolith
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probably

pliant matrix
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which is already a small brick

last flame
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Very probably. But if the intent is "more cargo with some guns to defend myself", the MAX will get it done

steel monolith
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yeah that is kinda of the point.. just slowly want to get myself set up to make money xd

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mostly with a combat ship and a medium cargo hauler I guess

pliant matrix
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money is about mining today. cargo is too unstable. you'll earn 300k by betting 1.5mil two or three times and then lose 1.5mil. back at the start if you didn't lose

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combat and bounties are decent but takes way more time than mining

last flame
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I fully suspect he's talking closer to release, Theadriel.

steel monolith
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yeah not really for today xd

pliant matrix
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so yeah. once the game is stabilized cargo will be interesting

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sorry I didn't got that part xD

steel monolith
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I basically meant after it get's fully persistent (and when there's an actual reason to make money)

last flame
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honestly, if that's your goal, MAX is probably a good way to go. Fairly cost effective, just the right size for a solo pilot without missing out on too much functionality, and gives you plenty of paths to upgrade in the future when you start hauling cargo

steel monolith
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mining also seems interesting but idk how viable that is.. and I think it's not too bad to make money with cargo/combat and then purchase a prospector.. they are quite cheap ingame right

pliant matrix
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In the future there wont be mining without cargo so both should be viable

steel monolith
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i can bring a roc in MAX? xd

pliant matrix
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yeah but it's not the best. it's very tight and glitchy

steel monolith
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yeah I believe that

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I've seen stuff

last flame
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The MAX is actually one of those best suited for carrying a ROC just because of how wide the bay is

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the regular Freelancer is a very tight squeeze, by comparison

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and the ROC is dirt cheap in-game; 172k

steel monolith
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yeah I mean that does sound perfect then Thonk

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really seems like upgrading cutlass to MAX almost has no downsides besides a little maneuverability

last flame
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In your specific use cases, I'd agree

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if you were planning on using your MAX for... more nefarious purposes, I'd probably suggest sticking with the Cutty, but

steel monolith
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like what exactly?

last flame
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since the Cutty is more offensively-minded, it's probably going to be a better hunter/pirate than a Freelancer MAX. That maneuverability and extra pair of S3 guns will be important on imposing your will on other people, and the side doors make getting in and out easy in zero-G. But a lot of that gameplay isn't in, yet.

steel monolith
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fair enough.. but I also have a Sabre for combat and might upgrade that sometime to warden or something else for hunting/pirate purposes

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or even corsair

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I don't need 1 ship to do everything I guess

last flame
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Corsair seems like it will be interesting in the future. You know a Drake Explorer isn't built just for exploring stars

steel monolith
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yes I'm aware and very interested xd

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sabre is a good starting point to upgrade to something like that and it has lti aswell

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So i'd be fine with losing some "combat" potential going to MAX

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I feel like MAX is mostly gonna be used for chill hauling and if a friend or two play it seems like a more fun ship aswell

thorny copper
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I love my MAX

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its not too terrible in pve combat either tbh

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you'll take a few hits, but its such a tank you rarely get hit thru the shields anyway

steel monolith
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sounds good yeah :p

thorny copper
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I tried chasing down a pvp bounty in a MIS with it, even thicc mama max dodge the missiles

steel monolith
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lol

frail sigil
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I decided to get a MISC Hull A. We now have cargo decks and expect to have cargo run game loop in the near future. Crossing my fingers on it

pallid temple
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Well we already have trading as a gameplay loop

frail sigil
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True but the Hull series is where it's at

green sundial
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sure would lie something similar to a Charon from Eve in this game

dusky shoal
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fuck me, I spent all of my money to purchase cargos. Then, I ended up lost all of my money that I cannot find where to sell it in the spaceport

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now I only have 2aUEC now

green sundial
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what spaceport?

steel monolith
dusky shoal
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port tressler

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the station forced restore my ship

green sundial
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you can't sell much there but I think medical and some toher stuff

dusky shoal
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then all cargos are gone

frail sigil
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Ouch

dusky shoal
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I have nothing now

green sundial
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well you could try an account reset

dusky shoal
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i counldnt find where to sell it, when the system says they are going to restore my ship, I cannot make my way back to hanger

green sundial
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may give you your cash back if it hasn't been updated

dusky shoal
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I spent 40k on my cargo and that is all I have

crimson mantle
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It could simply be stored. Don't panic.

green sundial
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but storing the ship doesn't get rid of the cargo

dusky shoal
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cargos are gone

green sundial
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did you claim the ship?

frail sigil
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That's why I'm waiting for cargo deck runs. Cargo will be contract based and not out of your own pocket

dusky shoal
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I cant find it on the ship

green sundial
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sometimes cargo doesn't appear on the ship

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what were you trying to sell?

dusky shoal
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then where I can find place tosell it?

crimson mantle
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If you reclaimed the ship through insurance it's gone. Otherwise it should be there. Go check at the trading terminal. Boxes don't always visually show in the ship.

green sundial
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the admin office

dusky shoal
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there is the trading terminal in port tressler

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location exactly?

green sundial
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go to the galleria

crimson mantle
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There is. The office has closed doors and is yellow with a stylized "Admin" on it.

green sundial
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what was the cargo?

dusky shoal
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Distilled Spirits

green sundial
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ah

dusky shoal
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bought from Euterpe

crimson mantle
dusky shoal
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I am using this web

crimson mantle
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Not very fast, but they buy

dusky shoal
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I lost like 40% of my money

crimson mantle
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Could you sell all of it? They don't buy a whole lot.

dusky shoal
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ohh

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I see

crimson mantle
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Now that you maxed them out, they will buy 2SCU/min.

dusky shoal
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I cant sell it

crimson mantle
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Or you can try to go sell it elsewhere, like in the big cities

dusky shoal
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it says server error

crimson mantle
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Yeah you have to quit the terminal and come back every once in a while.

green sundial
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that 2 SCU/min is a limit shared between ALL active servers

crimson mantle
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Might take some time at Tressler as they don't drink that much booze 😄

green sundial
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so you're competing to sell your goods against everyone else

crimson mantle
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If you have another ship you can do some missions and come back later, there's no problem.

green sundial
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^

dusky shoal
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Well

crimson mantle
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I recommend putting in something like >25-33% of your cargo capacity.

dusky shoal
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Where I suppose to know the rate

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Kk

crimson mantle
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Well, you're right in that in-game nothing tells you!

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Which is one of the reason I made the website.

dusky shoal
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shit, I game crashed

crimson mantle
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No problem: stored ships are saved

dusky shoal
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now I cannot find my ship from the selling list

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let me check if it still in insurance

crimson mantle
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You only lose money if the last place you landed was an outpost that cannot spawn your ship back.

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Do not claim your ship through insurance: that will empty it.

dusky shoal
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what do you mean

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my ship is in claim status

crimson mantle
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If you insurance claim a ship, the previous ship is gone and you get a new one: no more cargo.

dusky shoal
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now I cannot see the cargo from the selling list

crimson mantle
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If you claim the ship through insurance, the cargo is gone 😦

dusky shoal
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but I did not claim the ship

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still cannot find the cargo from the selling lsit

crimson mantle
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Bugs and crash can make it pretty harsh 😦

upbeat pagoda
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big old 2aUEC

dusk swallow
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How to fix the issue when Rock Energy Level isn't moving anymore

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Is this related to my character / my ship? Or to the asteroids?

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Yeah mining laser totally dead

pliant matrix
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sometimes it's the server. energy lvl not moving and suddenly all red blowing in your face

dusk swallow
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Yes but no nothing happening

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No lag

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Scanner also dead

last flame
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Sounds like a server 30k inbound

frail knoll
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First mistake is doing cargo during a free fly

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personally i feel like people act like 30ks happen more than they actually do... like people saying cargo is impossible rn are out of their mind.

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but like during a free fly, that’s when it’s real risky

pliant matrix
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didn't had trouble doing cargo on last week except when the buddy I was flying with decided to change server and logged me off during quantun travel...200k lost

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but servers are pretty fine

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I'd more server issue with mining actually. energy gauge going suddenly crazy and boom

frail knoll
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Just use consumables for a safety net

grim kernel
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hi guys

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just a simple cute question

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how much does it take to have 1 million UEC assuming i have a caterpillar or the biggest solo minning ship please ?

steel monolith
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hard to say rn I guess

grim kernel
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how much people make on average per 1 hour ?

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200k ?

steel monolith
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with cargo it depends how much aUEC you already have

grim kernel
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lets assume i have the max to fill the caterpillar (which is biggest SCU ship right now)

steel monolith
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idk I heard people were flipping 1m into 1.3m with 1 run or something

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which doesn't take that long I guess

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it's gonna take ages to build some money with cargo though

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and you can currently still lose everything due to a bug if you're unlucky

normal night
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Did they get rid of mining consumables? I went to dumped depot at PO and it wasnt above the mining heads. Also if they didnt which do you all recommend for q-type asteroids?

last flame
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Consumables are still there. I use Optimum for Quantanium rocks.

forest gale
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if anyone wants a crash course on mining/running cargo let me know!

grim kernel
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thank you @steel monolith

main saddle
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When I found this asteroid, it didn't seem like it had this much quant in it. It was only 4% of the mass.

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first asteroid of the day, lol

dusky shoal
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how do I check if how many cargo is used?

last flame
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There isn't a way in the interface right now. If you're in a mining craft, extending your mining arm should give you an indication on how much is being used

pliant matrix
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is hurston a good planet to mine with roc?

pallid temple
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No

dusk swallow
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Where to find more valuable asteroids

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I find almost only aluminium

crimson mantle
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There's filters for just the valuable stuff if you want to.

fallen blaze
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how do i flip my roc?

sand sail
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Don't suppose any of you gents could suggest a profitable trade route? I haven't got much time left on this cat rental

rotund sorrel
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Go wala area 45 or 56 to area 18

sand sail
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What goods? Laranite and titanium?

rotund sorrel
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I personally go laranite

sand sail
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If you can't find it lmao

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How's the payout? I'm looking at 100kish running from Arial to Lorville

sand sail
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Is it just me or is there nothing at area 45

hollow sedge
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When the trade tool says “amount” does that mean the SCU.

rotund sorrel
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Yea I was getting it too @sand sail, I've resorted to other planets really weird

sand sail
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Yeah it was strange. I wound up heading back to Hurston. Then some weird glitch blew me up and I lost like 400-500k of cargo and now I don't have the cat anymore so it's back to making pennies for me ;-;

rotund sorrel
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Happened to me twice yesterday, so annoying

sand sail
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Yep. The past two days for me have been a nightmare. I made my first million only to now be just under it. I'll never own my own caterpillar

fair fog
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@sand sail rent cutlass black, get Roc, fill it, haul it to mining outpost, sell to outpost
repeat mining

sand sail
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I'll look into it, but I don't know anything about mining or even what an ROC is

fair fog
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@sand sail https://puu.sh/GRW7C.jpg
you fly in a ship, tab to use scanner. You find gems, you land and roll car out.
Press M to extend mining arm
mouse scroll to regulate power. Get it to stay in green zone. Red - boom.
Right mouse click to switch modes. Left click to vacuum.

if you will carry it in cutlass, doubletap M when powering up car.
Always power down AND close door before liftoff.

sand sail
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Sounds complex. Kinda like deep core mining back in E:D

fair fog
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the core of it: left click, scroll up-down, wait

pliant matrix
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The core of it is to manage with server lags

dusky shoal
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if I parked at spaceport and got destoryed

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do I still have the cargo if I am not going to claim the ship/

upbeat pagoda
pliant matrix
woeful moss
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but trading is extremely dangerous due to the risks of 30ks

ocean trench
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Best minig locations for ROC?

pliant matrix
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I tried arial yela and aberdeen so far. I'd say arial. Aberdeen have too many rocks (not mineable) so it's difficult to land properly. And yela visibility is bad with snowflakes

dusk swallow
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The Mole seriously needs some front lights

sand sail
pliant matrix
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be careful. big money invest mean big loss

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when something happen

sand sail
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There's that. But as long as you're not flying like an idiot, you're more likely to lose your cargo to some obnoxious glitch rather than a mistake on your part. And unfortunately, there's not much you can do about that

pliant matrix
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yeah

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it needs to be flight slowly

fallen blaze
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i have on occasion been extremely lucky and had my ship and cargo intact after a 30k

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but i was docked or about to dock

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it's worth checking the admin panel and seeing if you got lucky before claiming your ship

pliant matrix
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yeah it happened to me once. got 30k while entering hurston hangar

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I went to trade terminal and sold it all

fallen blaze
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one day, far from now, the game will be bug free (enough) and have a dynamic economy (enough) and stop resetting progress to be worth investing serious time into

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because you'll be way more likely to get a valuable return for your time, unlike right now where you can play for a whole day but lose everything to bugs

pliant matrix
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you can play a whole day without losing anything. just don't trade

fallen blaze
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my experiences with the roc say otherwise, that buggy is cursed

pliant matrix
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made two runs last night. except I barely got hadanite (shame luck then) everything went right.
sure you've to manage server lags for energy but well it's playable

fallen blaze
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what do you mean for server lags?

pliant matrix
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when scrolling your laser power the reaction on the rock energy lvl is somehow always laggy. sometimes you'll see your rock explode suddenly too

fallen blaze
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yeah that's happened a lot

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my main problem is flipping, i haven't managed to successfully right it yet

pliant matrix
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good point is it's not as punishing with roc than with prospector where it can literally blow up your ship too

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haaa yeah I got that too a lot at first

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well drive slow and land your ship so the door touch the ground well

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also don't mine on too edgy cliffs

crimson mantle
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If you request landing, your ship is saved at that position.

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No need to land per-say, just request it.

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So you can "checkpoint" your run by requesting landing at an orbital station on the way.

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The only problem really is when your "saved" location is an outpost that cannot spawn your ship.

fallen blaze
pliant matrix
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I meant when carrying your roc on a planet. it's buggy sometimes when you try to climb the ramp and there is a gap between the ramp and the floor

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that's why I now avoid aberdeen. it's full of cliffs and rocks making landing a pain

fallen blaze
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yeah and i have an msr and she's a big girl

pliant matrix
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I'm thinking about renting a cutlass. lighter and easier to land than msr. it's a shame since I took msr to make roc run easier xD

fallen blaze
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im all about that smuggler life but after playing for 4 years i realised that mining is the only way to make decent money in the current game

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ive like never had over 200k aUEC at any point in the alpha

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because the payouts for missions are crap and you can only make good money trading once you have lots of capital

woeful moss
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how can I reach the aaron halo best?

pliant matrix
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you can make 200k by farming bounties in like an hour and half. Less depending of your ship and if you doesn't have to repair or resupply

fallen blaze
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what's the highest bounty level?

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ive like CS4 but im guessing there's more

pliant matrix
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🤔 I'm doing cs4 and it's 5-6k each (not counting call at arms bonuses)

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dunno how to get more. if there are more

fallen blaze
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my CS3 says like 2500

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@pliant matrix thanks for the advice btw i appreciate it

pliant matrix
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It's a nice starter for making money without risk. Once you get enough you'll be able to do cargo without losing it all and starting over. I advice getting a million before starting light cargo. 2-3mil before going cat

fallen blaze
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and here i was doing full MSR runs with like 90% of my funds at stake thinkcry

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putting all 80k on the line for a 14k return

willow girder
#

What annoys me the most right now is that consumables mostly don't work in my mole turret.

pliant matrix
steel monolith
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prospector worth getting or just get roc ingame?

last flame
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Prospector's nice because it can be pretty consistent mining that isn't reliant on another vehicle. Having both honestly isn't a bad idea

steel monolith
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kind of just thinking to melt my sabre and get prospector + cutty black and just earn other ships ingame I guess

pliant matrix
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If you've another fighter it's a nice plan

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Or if you doesn't do fight

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There is an arrow or hornet loan with prospector if I remember right

steel monolith
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for SC you mean?

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I mean later I can just earn money for fighters.. I feel like it's just smarter to get money making sorted instead of "fun" ships

pliant matrix
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Yeah well gladius or arrow are around the million so with a prospector you'll do it quite fast

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And roc is 172k and is more profitable when everything goes right

steel monolith
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still weird to me that the little go cart can make more than a prospector

pliant matrix
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Yeah. Prospector mineable goods should get a rise. How can a full roc do two or three times a prospector?

steel monolith
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that kind of makes prospector useless it seems

pliant matrix
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It does

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I melt my prospector actually

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I'm making as much with dolivine with roc and faster

pallid temple
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Yeah don't mine Dolivine

pliant matrix
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And dolivine isn't hard to find

pallid temple
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You'll make it faster with Hadanite

pliant matrix
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Yes but on last run I mostly found doli so after a while I took it instead of keep searching

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Better than nothing kinda

quasi forge
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Where were you mining?

pliant matrix
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Aberdeen or Arial

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Aberdeen sucks

quasi forge
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Always had good results on Arial

pliant matrix
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Too cliffy and field is a pain to land properly

quasi forge
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I stick within a few 10s of kilometers of Bezdek

pliant matrix
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Yeah I made a full Arial run in less than an hour once on arial

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Full hadanite I mean

quasi forge
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I don't know if it's real, but feels like there's more stuff to be found near the mining stations

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I've dropped in other places far from the outposts and found nothing for miles and miles

pallid temple
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Don't mine near outposts

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That's one of the ways you paint a target on yourself

quasi forge
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I'm talking relatively near

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Like at least a couple minutes flying time at full speed

pliant matrix
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I'm always ending going like 50km around outpost

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Taking whatever I find on my way

quasi forge
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I keep Bezdek locked as a reference point

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Just so I don't start backtracking by mistake

pliant matrix
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Yeah same so I can retrieve roc and go back selling there

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Too bad I can't refuel msr there

quasi forge
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Why not?

pliant matrix
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It never worked. Maybe the size not being accepted

quasi forge
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There's a dumb bug that it won't let you refuel anywhere if you have a roc inside

pliant matrix
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Yeah ik that

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But I tried without it inside too

quasi forge
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oh interesting

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I've managed it in my cutty but I had to store the roc first

pliant matrix
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Maybe because landing request failed because of the size

quasi forge
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I don't think the landing services apply to any ship at these small outposts

pliant matrix
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I'm thinking about renting a curry for Roc mining

quasi forge
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PB is only for land vehicles I think

pliant matrix
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Seems way easier

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Cutty*

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Msr is great but too big to land anywhere. I'm losing lot of time finding a good landing spot so roc can climb back in

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Does cutty need any trick to put roc inside? Or is it going in smooth?

steel monolith
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pretty sure it's smooth.. maybe a little glitchy at the entrance

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nothing too bad

pliant matrix
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Not like freelancer where you need to push for it to enter?

steel monolith
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lol no

pliant matrix
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(just realized that convo could work in a very different context 🤣)

steel monolith
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for sure

pliant matrix
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Anyway will try that next time. Cutty sure would make me earn time and won't require me to refuel every 45 min

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Shame that nomad isn't working well for now

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I took two ships for roc carrying that doesn't work well atm

steel monolith
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nomad is quite the hassle xd

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freelancer max would be smoothest as can be

pliant matrix
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Yeah but too expansive

steel monolith
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lmfao

pliant matrix
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Yeah it fit pretty great. Just need to be careful to have all wheels on ramp

steel monolith
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yeah ramp is a bit narrow at the end

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bit it fits fine

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you can bring 2 I think

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xD

pliant matrix
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If you doesn't close the door maybe

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I heard some people made three roc enter an msr

steel monolith
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yikes

flint whale
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Anyone with a Mole? I wanna do some mining

sand sail
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Anyone looking for a cargo pilot?

pliant matrix
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is the elevator of nomad going to get an fix at some point? I mean all elevator are buggy with vehicles on them

sand sail
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I tried both

peak grove
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Hello I have a question, if I quit game but my ship have cargo, will I lost the Cargo ? I need to stock my ship in a station ?

pliant matrix
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I'd say most likely yes

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you'll lose it

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even if stocked.
also if you have time to stock it then just go to the closest location possible and sell it

peak grove
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I can’t sell it that the problem, trading consol broken haha

pliant matrix
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aww. never had a console being broken actually. what does it do?

peak grove
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Yep, in outpost impossible to see my ship in the trading console

pliant matrix
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🤔 I see. maybe a sign server will crash. is your ship landed on a pad or close enough to the station?

sand sail
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Is it area 45?

peak grove
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No, moon of Hurston, Arial

sand sail
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Hmm...

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Smells like a 30k

peak grove
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Okay my teammate go to land to a station and maybe secure my cargo 😅

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Too late...

fallen blaze
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i was on arial too

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looks like i just lost two hours of mining

pliant matrix
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also servers are crashing actually

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I couldn't get in 10min ago

fallen blaze
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aaaand this is why i never make any money in SC

peak grove
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Hooo so sorry for your mining

tender sky
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think kaguto was right

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that sucks

last flame
pliant matrix
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it actually sucks since a year or more from what I heard. with connies and mustang mostly

last flame
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It's been a while, yes. But one of the ships they've been actively working on involves working on dynamic physics grids, so it shouldn't be much longer, hopefully

pliant matrix
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I hope too. I took nomad for carrying roc but it's bugging too much. I wasted two run about it

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I'm considering upgrading it to cutlass but I don't like it xD

steel monolith
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what's wrong with cutlass

pliant matrix
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I don't like it's design. too rustic I guess xD

steel monolith
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freelancer xd

pliant matrix
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even worse xD

steel monolith
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connie?

pliant matrix
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I like ^^

steel monolith
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get aquila

pliant matrix
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too expansive and would prefer phoenix actually. just for luxury xD

steel monolith
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rather have taurus lol

pliant matrix
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lool I'd like to know what it'll be. And connies rework too

steel monolith
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if taurus gets 150+ scu it's a good deal

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they just seem way too sluggish to fly

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even a freelancer runs circles around it

pliant matrix
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connies are fine but barely made to defend themselves with turrets or shoot from 4km. out of that they're useless in battle

steel monolith
#

did you melt the MSR yet

pliant matrix
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🤔 not planning on melting it

steel monolith
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how come

pliant matrix
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why would I?

steel monolith
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🤔

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cuz it doesn't work

sand sail
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I'm lookin' for folks who are hauling cargo; who either don't want to do the flying themselves or have a spare ship that they need someone to fly. Any takers?

steel monolith
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lol

pliant matrix
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MSR except hydrogen issue is working fine. just not perfect to mining with roc but so far I'm good with it xD

steel monolith
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don't really see any other reason to get MSR atm

pliant matrix
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I've made bounties with it with a friend. works fine too with the turret. and it's a pretty ship ^^

steel monolith
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I've have bought it if it had 4 s3 pilot guns

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2 s3 is a bit of a joke

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I'd almost ccu to wb msr for ccu value

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sabre (170$) > msr (260$) is only 50$

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🤔

pliant matrix
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I've nothing in sight to replace it honestly. Maybe vanguard but I can buy one ingame soon

steel monolith
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idk if I want to do it xD it's a great deal I guess

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if it gets fixed it seems like a good replacement as multi role ship from cutty black

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what do you think

pliant matrix
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totally. I mean except pilot firepower it does everything better than cutlass

steel monolith
#

yeah that's definitely a concern though

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I basically still have a nomad ccu after i'd get MSR, so I could get some cheap fighter for bounty/pve

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Thing that really interests me is that I could use msr as a bit of an explorer since it should be able to traverse long distances without refueling? 🤔

pliant matrix
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should be yeah but it's more of a fast cargo kinda. It's like take the data and deliver is asap other way of the galaxy

steel monolith
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data gameplay seems interesting aswell tbh

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@pliant matrix would it be better to upgrade sabre to like a corsair > msr.. or melt sabre and start with nomad first xd

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think melting is better

tender sky
#

I'm planning on getting the Cutlass, but figured I'd buy the Nomad game package first then upgrade for LTI

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But then you don't get a hangar that cna fit the Cutlass it appears?

steel monolith
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ofc you do

tender sky
#

You do? So the Nomad comes with the Self land

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But if I CCU that to Cutlass, then I wouldn't get the industrial hangar from the cutlass game package right?

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Pretty new so just trying to figure out best option

steel monolith
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no clue how the hangars work with ccus

tender sky
#

Cool thx anyhow, I guess ill have to see what happens haha

steel monolith
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the hangars aren't that important anyway I guess xD

tender sky
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Yeah I don't know much about them, I guess no one really spends much time in them lol

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Might as well be out in the game

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Although supposedly eventually you can spawn from them in game

steel monolith
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🤔

tender sky
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Something look off?

steel monolith
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no xd

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there we go

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🙂

sand sail
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Can the ROC fit in a Constellation?

woeful moss
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Yes

boreal raven
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yes

pliant matrix
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Sorry @steel monolith went to sleep. It was 4am and was dead. Congrats on msr

pliant matrix
sand sail
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Uh oh

pliant matrix
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Also tbh you'll lose lot of time moving from point to point and finding a decent spot to land

woeful moss
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Cutty way better for roc(king) in the verse

mental wing
#

Hello! What are the recommended commodities to running trade with on my MSR?

fair fog
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Constellation Phoenix + Roc = no go. Roof of cargo bay is lower and glitched arm will stick into the ceiling causing ROC to bump all around until fixed. Since arm glitches often, it is possible to lose ROC during transport between spots or en route to selling gems.

Andromeda is fine, if slow in atmo. Aquila is best out of all constelations.

pliant matrix
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But same elevator issues for all tho. Your roc might fall while you raise it

fair fog
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if you look at ROC while it's raised and see all 4 wheels, it glitches less

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I usually place ROC in bottom right quadrant of platform if you look at ship from above. Character stands in top left quadrant of platform.
Arm almost touches right wall, but should just be a bit not touching.

weary furnace
#

can you fit 2 rocs in msr?

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yes apparently

spare bridge
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i think I saw someone fit 4

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but that's a little silly

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2 fit just fine

atomic forum
#

Could you make good profit with ROC ?? It's better then mining with Prospector for example ?

pliant matrix
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when it works well definitely yes

atomic forum
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Considering to change my C8X Pices for ROC while Carrack come whit it's own Pices so basically don't need two

pliant matrix
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it's 172k in game I don't advise to buy it with real money

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way overpriced imo

atomic forum
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LoL 172k so cheep 🤣

pliant matrix
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exactly

#

bigest income ingame actually and one of the cheapest to buy (ingame)

fallow wagon
#

buying one with credits is my #1 goal right now, but I keep losing cargo to server jank and haven't even quite had 100k at once yet

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should improve after freefly I imagine

pliant matrix
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just do an hour or two of bounty mission and you'll get your 172k easy

atomic forum
#

Is a hauling with cat still a think ?

pliant matrix
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yes if you've invest power and doesn't fear 30k

fallow wagon
#

am not great a dogfights if there's more than 1 enemy

pliant matrix
#

what fighter or assimilate ship do you've?

fallow wagon
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MSR

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and 125a are my ships

atomic forum
#

Well I have made like 2 millions with my cat in 3.9 patch and a still got them 😅

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Cool

pliant matrix
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I see. well either you find someone to get into a turret in MSR and it'll be easy to farm bounties or go with 125a. it's decent for some missions. you'll struggle on some of them but I think it's doingable and still better income than losing your cargo

atomic forum
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And now iam just haul some scrap time to time for 28k profit and iam fine 🤣

pliant matrix
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lol I'd not have enough of 2mil. it'd barely pay me a sentinel

atomic forum
#

Titanium and Laranite are still to go commodities right ?

pliant matrix
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yes and no. so overtrade their value are constantly down

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the few times I do trading I try to take variant less refresh commodities

atomic forum
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Diamond looks good to but there are just few places to buy them and those places are no weapon free 😅

pliant matrix
#

profit come with the risk 😉

atomic forum
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Full cat of diamonds to Lorvile is like 85k

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Titanium is about 58k

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But there is a bug on landing zone Lorvile right now ?

fallow wagon
#

I've been doing diamond runs from the Cellin mining location and selling at Area18. bit of a long trip but I get 30% profit

atomic forum
#

That your ship want be stored right ?

pliant matrix
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even if stored you can still sell your stuff

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it's not a bug I think it's just a lot of people come and go at lorville so spot are needed

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especially large spot

atomic forum
#

Lots of waird shit happend to me on Lorvile 🤣

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Like somebody spawn Andromeda on top of my Cat and I have to pay for damages

pliant matrix
#

never had any issues there so far. except cat being so slow the hangar door are closing the time I get to it

atomic forum
#

Could haul with Carrack is allmoust the same

pliant matrix
fallow wagon
#

I cannot go to Lorville

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my rendering gets extremely broken if I visit Lorville, so I cannot ever go there.

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I've also found that SC trading tools site to be way, way, way off in values

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I don't know if it's manually updated or what, but I don't think it's been updated in a while

pliant matrix
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@crimson mantle will explain better than me

paper forge
#

pure money

fair fog
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Valk?

thorny copper
#

I'd rather be broke than do ROC mining, I value my sanity too much

pliant matrix
#

I confirm cutlass is best for solo mining. and roc sucks for getting on it's back way too often. Just lost 34% hadanite run

mortal furnace
#

you can mine with cutlass?

pallid temple
#

You can use the Cutlass to carry the ROC

#

Which is a ground mining vehicle

snow maple
#

what about an connie andromeda?

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or a freelancer?

crimson mantle
#

@fallow wagon The website is updated automatically when a patch hits, but from the static game's files. The live servers have a dynamic economy that make the prices fluctuate with supply and demand. This means that the website is always optimistic compared to the live servers. See https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq for more details.
By and large though, the prices should still be in the same ballpark. The commodities with a high "refresh rate" will be more accurate than the ones produces in small quantities.

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

paper forge
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I take valk because of 3 reasons.

  1. its agile and with vtol handle pretty nice around planet - its dropship.after all.
  2. it carry 2 rocs that means i can mine for longer.
  3. its fuel efficient, i can mine straight 5hours without refueling
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in that way i never lost any load because of random ramp glitchyness or lack of space, i can mine around 400k worth of hadanite within 1,5hour before i sell stuff and most importantly i dont give a damn F about 30k's because i wont loose any materials even if it occurs.

snow maple
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why is that?

pliant matrix
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Yeah last part intrigued me

pliant matrix
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Cutlass is a bit larger and it helps quite a lot

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I'm definitely upgrading nomad to cutlass later today. I don't like its design but it's really useful

atomic forum
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Iam using mercury star runner

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Or Freelancer Max

paper forge
# snow maple why is that?

If you get 30k on planet, your vehicles get stored there. With ship its a problem because you need to claim it on spacesport. But ROC gets stored at planetary outpost. After 30k you come back to nearest outpost on same planet and just retrieve ship with all inventori inside it

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only 2 out of 10 times one of them was unable to retrieve becasue "we are unable to deliver that ship a this moment" bug. But still i got money from 2nd ROC

atomic forum
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Wow now and when you drop in space whit roc on board of your ship ?

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Then it's gone ?

snow maple
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i lost my roc, it blew up and now I can summon it

fair fog
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@snow maple if you can't summon it on this moon, go to other moon, claim it there

paper forge
steel monolith
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@pliant matrix ty :p and np

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Was also 4am for me

pliant matrix
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So if I lose my ship because idk I logged out or got 30k I can come back and sell what I mined at a station on that same planet

pallid temple
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No

pliant matrix
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Also if I log out from ship bed I'll still arrive on that same planet into the ship

pliant matrix
# pallid temple No

but "After 30k you come back to nearest outpost on same planet and just retrieve ship with all inventori inside it"

pallid temple
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You can't retrieve ships from outposts on moons or planets

pliant matrix
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by ship he meant roc I guess

paper forge
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If you unload ROC hada into box and keep it at ship its gone. This is why i keep 2 of them to always have hada stored inside them.

steel monolith
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last 2 days the ship retrieval console was empty xd

pliant matrix
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Any way to see what kind of ore it is without going out with roc? without leaving the ship cockpit then

crimson mantle
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@pliant matrix In scanner mode, hold left mouse button on the rock. You have to be close.

pliant matrix
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Yeah I've been doing it but it doesn't work. also aiming at a small rock isn't easy xD

steel monolith
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In nomad? xd

pliant matrix
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no cutlass or msr

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didn't tried with nomad and wont since I updated it to cutlass 10 mins ago xD

steel monolith
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Msr should have a good scanner I guess

fringe summit
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anyone know if the scanning turret on connie aquila can use the standard tab scanner?

steel monolith
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It's a manned turret I guess

fair fog
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I've been flying Aquila for days and never used turrets because I fly solo. Huh. Might check out the turrets then.

steady willow
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Is the Prospector better than the ROC? I have an LTI Prospector that I'm considering CCUing to something like the MSR

thorny copper
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much better

steel monolith
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@steady willow I only hear people saying they make a lot more with ROC

lost wing
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So if you find a wreck and find the little boxes of stuff, where do you sell them?

fair fog
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Is there a special requirement to store all commodities that are in ROC or just a delay?

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so far it never lets me do it on surface, only when ROC is inside ship.

crude heron
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be sure to take a multivitamin with vitamin D and zinc in it since its winter and we dont get much sunlight now

amber terrace
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@steady willow i bet next patch Prospector will be better, because you won't do much refining with ROC

crude heron
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is there a best in slot for prospector reference?

faint fern
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Is the Nomad designed to be able to transport the Greycat Roc or not?

pallid temple
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Its by no means designed to

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But when has that ever stopped anyone?

faint fern
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well but why not? I mean - either shorten the Rocs Tyre lengs or elongate the Rocs Cargo bed a few cm. Because - I can make it go with the ship - but not without a hassle..

pliant matrix
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I tried and stopped trying xD didn't finished a run with nomad/roc. Made 200k today with cutty/roc. choice was done I upgraded nomad to cutty

visual karma
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Hey everyone I was wondering if anybody knew when the hull c was going to possibly be flyable I don't know if I missed something like news or something

verbal cargo
pliant matrix
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what would be a good upgrade to msr actually (flyable or soon). I mean witch can do some cargo without being too much of a brick

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c2 (or herc series) seems like a natural upgrade but well too little informations on them for now

steel monolith
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Carrack?

pliant matrix
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barely flyable solo (flyable but not defendable)

steel monolith
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Msr is quite big for solo already

pliant matrix
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you can fight in pve quite easy still

steel monolith
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Well c2 is too big i guess xd

pallid temple
steel monolith
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wow really

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no sht

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he still wanted an upgrade over MSR as solo

pliant matrix
steel monolith
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ofc.. basically just lacking firepower then

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works fine for cargo or whatever you wanna do

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but idk if anything bigger is viable xD

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else you get to C2/carrack

pliant matrix
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c2 seems to be a one or two people ship. so flyable solo too. second person should be on a turret or scan maybe

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seems like there is a turret on the back

quartz laurel
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MMMmmm Perseus and 2 ROC's on the hanger bay 👍

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new meta

pliant matrix
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not the same price as c2 xD

steel monolith
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i'll join you on C2 xd

quartz laurel
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not the same firepower 😄

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No pirate is going to mess with the 2 ROC miners while 2 gunners sit in the Perseus next to it 😄

pliant matrix
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I want to take the upgrade so bad but 100€ to add is a bit too much

steel monolith
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msr to c2 you mean?

pliant matrix
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yeah

steel monolith
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Why

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Just for bigger cargo?

pliant matrix
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bigger and supposed to be easier to pilot than a cat so yeah interesting

quartz laurel
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Carrack is a decent and safer hauler than a cat, but that's just me.

pliant matrix
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not the same price either xD

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it's almost double

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no it is double

fallen blaze
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for the prospector, do i have to laser the right part of the asteroid? my laser seems to not have any effect at 100%

digital ferry
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I guess this question falls under cargo but I'm not sure tbh. Do we know how many ships will be able to land in the hangar of the endeavour?

green sundial
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@fallen blaze what is the content of the asteroid?

fallen blaze
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i cant remember now, quite a lot of quantanium

green sundial
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oh

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@fallen blaze were you using the rental prospector?

fallen blaze
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was probably a server issue

green sundial
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unlikely

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the stock laser just doesn't have the power you needed

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its only good for lower mass, lower resistance rocks

royal lava
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so is it worth buying the ROC out right or just renting he prospector. with upgraded bit

quartz laurel
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172k for ROC in-game

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worth it to mine with, do several runs and you can buy a prospector in a few days

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I bought 3 ROC's due to randomly 1 or 2 will bug out and can't retrieve vehicle or claim.

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(work around: is to go to another planet and claim ground vehicle).

coarse cape
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plus

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one full roc load of hadanite pays it off

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nets about 220k

quartz laurel
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may take approx 2 hrs to fill a full ROC but yes

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ur not wrong

coarse cape
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i got it in under an hour

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but i found like

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2 scans of like 9-14

mighty hamlet
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what i call moleing and thats only a few of em, got allot between 220-270

quartz laurel
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nice, how many hrs for that?

mighty hamlet
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usually about an hour and a half a run

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a little longer if the rocks suck but i got great spots @quartz laurel

quartz laurel
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nice

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looks similar to ROC mining maybe slightly better

mighty hamlet
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im working a method now to make 400k plus a run in the same amount of time

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but that is hush hush for now

quartz laurel
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yesterday I made approx 415k almost 2 full ROC s

mighty hamlet
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how long did it take?

quartz laurel
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1 full crate in ship cargo and the other partially filled ROC

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approx 2 hrs, but I was lucky finding stacks of 12 very close by

mighty hamlet
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wait.. you can drop you carts in tthe cargo ship hold and go off for more?

quartz laurel
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yes

mighty hamlet
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so in a ship like say the mercury star runner how many loads could you do before you had to sell?

quartz laurel
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access ROC cargo and select an option to store all to a crate

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I was actually using the MSR and had to stop due to hydrogen low on fuel down to 22%

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but if you had the cutty black you wouldn't have that problem

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you could keep going

mighty hamlet
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you could shut ship off though correct?

quartz laurel
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i keep it running landed to scoop fuel

mighty hamlet
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ahh

quartz laurel
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very slow but does help a tiny amount

mighty hamlet
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so you scan in the msr?

quartz laurel
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enough to reuse on launch and get to slow cruise speed. Yes u can scan

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every ship can

mighty hamlet
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interesting

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i would kinds suck looking for rocks in the roc just driving no?

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could the msr fit 2 roc's?

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@quartz laurel

quartz laurel
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yes, you can easily fit 2 rocs in the MSR

mighty hamlet
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so essentially making double the credits

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this has me thinking

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i believe this can be more profitable for a duo like me and my wife over one mole

quartz laurel
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you can in theory just run around in the ROC on the planet, but it might take you longer to find all the good spots while driving also prone to griefers / pkers looking for easy kills.

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You would need a supply of o2 pens etc

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even a freelancer max can house 2 rocks easy

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give it a shot, it's good fun

mighty hamlet
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i think dual roc's running out of one msr we will be racking in the credits

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so on a normal day what is the time it takes you to get a full load of hadanite?

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on average

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because i know its not exact it isnt in the mole

quartz laurel
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problem with the MSR at the moment is the bug with fuel usage, it runs out very very fast.

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absurdly fast.

mighty hamlet
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what would be a better ship

coarse cape
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and in atmo is just depends

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rlly

quartz laurel
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in atmo not much work around as you need coupled

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or u fall to the ground

coarse cape
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yeah

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nb is really bad for msr

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just dont use afterburner as well

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i dont burn much anyways when i roc mine

quartz laurel
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no ab use at all

coarse cape
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yep

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atleast its going to get fix soon

mighty hamlet
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how is the nomad for hydrogen fuel if you carry the roc around?

quartz laurel
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i heard the fuel issue for both nomad and msr is going to be fixed next patch but not confirmed exactly when

mighty hamlet
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hmmm sounds like the cutlass red it is then

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you go to ariel or aberdeen to mine hadanite @quartz laurel ?

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heard they were both good

quartz laurel
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both are good yep

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daymar used to be the go to but seems to have changed

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you can still find hadinite on daymar but it's more hit and miss.

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easier on the suit and lower grav.

coarse cape
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daymar is pretty good as well ig

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pretty flat land

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not a lot of ppl

tawny loom
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Anyone looking for a crew member/newb

fallow wagon
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MSR fuel should be fixed in next patch btw, there was a ticket with confirmation on adjustment

coarse cape
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wait so how do you fuel scoop

fallow wagon
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it's automatic

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I think if you're moving you scoop more (since you're moving through more space), so if you decouple outside of atmosphere and just ride the solar winds you'll regain all your hydrogen

coarse cape
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ah

fallow wagon
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fuel scoop is only for hydrogen though

coarse cape
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yeah

coarse cape
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fuck

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my msr

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despawned on me

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and now im stranded

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and my map doesnt work

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and my roc flipped

fallow wagon
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did you log in from resting in your ship's bed?

civic barn
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Where do you buy the helix head

coarse cape
fallow wagon
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I ask because there's a bug where if you logout in your ship's bed, log back in, land your ship and get out, it'll despawn

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even if you fly around without getting out for an hour

coarse cape
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and game crashed

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ugh

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1 hour of mining gone

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:/

fallow wagon
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so say we all

civic barn
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Do I want the helix 1 or 2 head

crisp prism
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Helix 1 has less range than Helix 2. Other than that, there's no difference

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Also... Helix 1 is S1 and Helix 2 is S2, meaning S1 will fit on both the Prospector and M.O.L.E, while the S2 will only fit on the M.O.L.E

paper forge
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Helix II can operate to up to 300meters. With MOLE its crucial to efficiently mine with all turrets and keep safe distance

pliant matrix
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Are there planets where you doesn't need heat/cold suits?

fallow wagon
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Arc Corp I guess

pliant matrix
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I meant moons sorry

fallow wagon
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considering moons generally wouldn't have any atmopshere, much less a habitable range, I don't think that'd happen

fallow wagon
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so it was suggested I should get a better mining laser head for my rented prospector?

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I only have like 16k, is there any particular ~10k one someone would recommend?

marble pollen
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you can't mod rented vehicles

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and no, it's helix or go home

modern skiff
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Size one Helix for 108k aUEC is absolutely needed. Otherwise you are wasing so much time just finding rocks you can even mine.

fallow wagon
civic barn
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What's the best spot for quadrinium

pulsar maple
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LF1M for Mole mining...

fallow wagon
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I feel like I have to take a full class to understand mining in this game

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and also have hundreds of thousands of credits to even start mining

pulsar maple
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Can make between 150 - 300k per trip

civic barn
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Is yela best spot for quantanium

fallow wagon
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@pulsar maple thanks but I think I'm done for now, got other stuff to do

lofty crest
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jump on either a mole or cargo haul to get that money up. solo mining on rented aint really worth it

pulsar maple
fallow wagon
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much appreciated 👍

smoky olive
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Does anyone know when the new mining ui is coming out? Is it 3.12?

pallid temple
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3.12

civic barn
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Any other spots beside yela I'm striking out here

crisp prism
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Daymar has the best yields for any types of mining

harsh mango
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Hey Guys, do any of you know a good place to mine? (prospektor)
just lost all my aUEC on a bug (just filled a caterpiller to the max, next secound its gone.... had to claim it again)
i know i shouldn't have used all my aUEC, but the server was very good so took the chance -.-'

fallow wagon
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follow the 30% rule

pliant matrix
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Big profit are so tempting. With a 1.5mil cat you can make 300k and in 15minutes

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That's why I want to climb with mining to 2-3 mil and then make big gambling

harsh mango
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yeah i know, i had a weak moment XD

crisp prism
harsh mango
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thanks, i have the Helix so np there... but i might try Daymar xD

crisp prism
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Daymar has the largest source of Quantainium deposits I've seen

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Assuming you know how to handle volatile cargo, that's pretty good profits

harsh mango
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okay will go to daymar'

fluid beacon
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hearingexplosioninthedistance

pliant matrix
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I never take quant except if I've 60% or more of good stuff inside. you just never have time to mine anything else and must go back to sell instantly

tacit otter
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feels good selling your mining haul just to have a 30k happen after youre safe lmao

frail knoll
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Quant mining is simply the best way to make money with a pros

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just spend the extra 10m to find a quant rock

pliant matrix
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yes but the best is to find a quant rock at the end of your run. like when you've70-80% of your pros full

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I'm tempted to get a mole. seems like a decent amount of money and safer than roc with all the small issue possible

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I can ccu from msr to eclipse then mole for 30€

tacit otter
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ROCs are very safe right now

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the only real risk is game crash or 30k

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game crash can be saved by being in a party to rejoin

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30ks affect prospectors too so meh

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Ive been earning upwards 200k/hr in the ROC

pliant matrix
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and ending on your back or being targeted by pirates (happened to me last night)

tacit otter
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though I get a lot more doing trading atm with how stable things have been...

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like in the last 24h the trade terminal demands have seemed to kinda lax

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so I was able to fill an entire cat with laranite and sell all of it in one go

pliant matrix
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well rent of massive ships will ends soon so yeah trading will return to normal

tacit otter
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I never flip and to avoid pirates just dont mine at a POI

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grab your roc and get the hell away

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youre more at risk of pirates by being near crusader than hurston

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because of grimhex and SPK

pliant matrix
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I was on arial when a dude fps killed me to take my cutlass and roc

tacit otter
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how far were you from the nearest POI?

pliant matrix
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he got blown off in space when I claimed cutlass xD

tacit otter
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including orbital markers

pliant matrix
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something like 50km away from bezdek

tacit otter
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not far enough

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go like 200-250

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promise you wont run into pirates

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also aberdeen is better than arial