industrial-professions

[delicate girder]

Where's the ship rental in Area18? I'm going to try to rent a Salvation. Didn't see it in the show for rent.

[silent owl]

It wont be at defence con as it's not RSI days or end of show, It may be rentable at Astro Armada in the shopping part of Area 18.

[delicate girder]

Thought Astro Armada was only for buying.

[silent owl]

https://finder.cstone.space/ShipShops1/83318d44-b6c1-42d8-bcd1-284318718b42 Not at Area 18, Orison and Levski for renting.

[bronze dirge]

Correct. A18 Ship Rentals are in the Spaceport, I believe the big room with all the inventory terminals.

[mild pumice]

It's in the lounge area between customs and ASOP/hangar lifts

[jovial matrix]

Anyone checked if you can insure mole bags on the prospector now?

[native aurora]

no you cannot

unfortunately

[jovial matrix]

Unfortunate

[keen garden]

can bricked bags be refined

[delicate girder]

Mole bags are what show up below your eyes when you play this game through the night!

[jovial matrix]

lol

[delicate girder]

How hard is it to solo the reclaimer? You can still launch that from Grimhex right?

[shell cedar]

Is there some secret to getting the Drake Cutter Scouts to dock to the Starfarer's boom for the fleet refueling missions? Everytime I try they kinda just bump into it and start sliding

they worked fine when I was in the starlite

[delicate girder]

Mainly I just want a bunch of RMC to use to fake out and quickly rake up the salvage contract rep.

I'm thinking all the RMC I'll need will just fit in the buffer for a start at least.

[north cloak]

Now that they've been out for a while. What's the take on Ironclad vs Assault?

[bronze dirge]

Vastly different jobs. Apples and Oranges. Assault is a carrier/dropship. Other is an armed and armored hauler.

[north cloak]

But the Assault still functions as a hauler that's just more heavily armed and armored eh?

But like... 2/3 the capacity

[bronze dirge]

Almost every crewed warship does.

Doesn’t mean that’s what they are intended for.

[north cloak]

Yeah but in this specific case we're talking about pretty large amounts of cargo

even on the combat version

[bronze dirge]

But that’s not in addition to large vehicles. If it’s running its job, it doesn’t have room for cargo.

If you’re only using it for cargo, sure you can. But why didn’t you just buy the regular Ironclad? If you’re using it as a snub carrier (like some of the packages seem to show intent) you need part of that grid space for rearm and refuel

Ironclad is better at hauling. Assault is better at combat.

Nothing stopping you from taking a regular IC into combat, doesn’t make it a combat ship.

[north cloak]

This question is coming from a "I have the CCU to both but I'm 100% not gonna get both" lol. I'm a galaxy owner for christ sake.

The only thing I take seriously in this game is combat. I love my combat ships. But i want a few outside that for dropping fun vehicles places with friends but also large scale cargo hauling or whatever

[austere falcon]

is there a trick to selling ore?

[bronze dirge]

Then go with the Assault.

[bronze dirge]

UEX/player market if the quality is good?

[austere falcon]

i mined some feynmaline on aberdeen with an atlas geo, when I got to admin to sell it nothing pops up.

I put all of it in a storage container and then into the freight elevator but it doesnt pop up when i go to admin to sell it

[bronze dirge]

Try UEX to find a station that buys it. Not all stations buy all goods

[austere falcon]

when I leave it all in my ship storage it pops up in admin, but says I cant sell it unless its at a freight elevator. Im at everus harbor where Ive sld it before, I'm just curious if its bugged or if theres a workaround?

do i need tp drop it all i the freight elevator with no container?

[bronze dirge]

Oh, I’m not sure. Sounds bugged if they are buying it but it’s not showing up to sell when in the elevator

[austere falcon]

well its like 3 hours of effort so i hope theres a way for me to sell it

[bronze dirge]

Might be worth it to store it until the bugs settle or you can find a player to buy it. Check the issue council, see if something similar has been reported?

[austere falcon]

I used to just be able to leave it all in my ship and just store the ship and pull it from the ship when i go to admin, but now it just tells me i have to use a freight elevator when i try.

[austere falcon]

copy that

[bronze dirge]

That’s how it used to be last I sold resources too. AFAIK the patch didn’t intentionally change that, I don’t recall seeing anything like that in the patch notes.

[bronze dirge]

Please let me know if you find any info or a work around? I plan on mining all night tonight. Be nice to know if I can sell/if I need a work around.

[austere falcon]

im going to attempt to put it in the freight elevator without a container. maybe thatll work

[brisk sand]

wheres the best place to go for super isolated asteroid mining in stanton

[bronze dirge]

Aaron Halo Belt 5, jump in from an odd start location. There’s a website with a calculator, but I don’t have it handy while I’m at work.

Alternatively you can go to Wikelo Selo and fly off in a random direction through the belt for a while and eventually probably be far enough away no one will know to look for you.

[brisk sand]

sounds good

[bronze dirge]

Personally I like the former. Feels a bit more isolated and it’s harder to do. Seems like there would be even less traffic.

I just wish I could set permanent QT markers/bookmarks that persist between sessions. Would be an awesome tool

[austere falcon]

this works

really tedious. you have to drop one mineral at a time. I have about 500 feynmaline....

would be nice if i could just sell it from a container.

[austere falcon]

⏫

[pearl juniper]

Use the freight elevator, open the box on one side. Elevator on the other, select all, move all.

[austere falcon]

i dragged the container over to the inventory terminal and am doing this

[bronze dirge]

One at a time? You are far more patient than I

[austere falcon]

nah, just fill the container, drag it over to an inventory terminal and you can move it in stacks, as the gentleman above mentioned, just open the storage container on one side, and open local storage on the other side. can then move stacks

[bronze dirge]

Oh cool. Hope that works with Ore bags? I’ve got 26 Drake pods I intend to fill

[austere falcon]

good luck o7

[bronze dirge]

lol thanks

They’re already loaded and I really was hoping to have the refinery unload them for me lol

[pearl juniper]

you don't even need to move stacks, the freight elevator has select all and move all buttons

[austere falcon]

can you access a storage container while looking at the freight elevator terminal?

at the same time?

[pearl juniper]

yeah, you can open one in each side. Send it down first, then I think it's double click to open it? Or a button somewhere

[pearl juniper]

oh I think I remember (it's been a few weeks), you send it down, then drag it over to the elevator, then double click. It opens in whatever side it's in, leaving the other side visible. So if you want to move them all to the warehouse, drag it to the elevator first. If you want to unload them to the elevator, leave it on the warehouse side and open it there.

[pallid seal]

Anyone got a good mission stack to repeat for Senior hauling?

[feral crane]

What industrial gameloop is poppin rn?

[native aurora]

Commodity runs are back in play since they nerfed salvage cargo spawns.

[keen garden]

crafting, mining,

[native aurora]

Cmat and rmc are decent if you have the right ship for it.

Mining high quality to sell on player market is always good

Or just mining beryl to sell is okay. Not gonna get super rich but decent money

[snow badge]

can u upgrade the starlite in anyway, i seem to not be able to put any fuel tanks or nozzle

[burnt trellis]

Anyone tried hauling in an ica? I bought it over the ironclad for versatility but I know it's plagued by many bugs currently. I was wanting to grind covalex rep in it in order to farm blueprints

[keen garden]

better off with any other cargo ship

[burnt trellis]

Best I got is shiv

Has there been any word on bug fixes for the ironchad ?

[native aurora]

I haven't heard of any. But yeah I would rent a raft for now if you have nothing else. It's gonna be amazing when it gets sorted but it's an awful experience currently

[obsidian reef]

Rent a C2 tomorrow at A18 and use it to make enough money to buy a dedicated hauler

[burnt trellis]

Maybe, might leave covalex rep till the ironchad assault is fixed though, it's my main pledge and I have a lot of hope for using it as a mobile base

[obsidian reef]

yeah I think fixes might take a while

[feral crane]

How rich can u get an how quick

Also how does one obtain a crafter

[native aurora]

The fabricator are sold at refinerys.

As far how rich are you that depends on what you mine and what the market is. But expect the good shit to not just be laying around

[feral crane]

Are any contracts good?

Or just like free-form stuff

[native aurora]

I haven't done any mining contracts yet. I just mine for my own crafting needs and to sell on player market. I do sometimes mine beryl to sell in game cause I happen to find that shit all the time and it sells moderately well

[feral crane]

What app for player market?

Or website?

[native aurora]

I also never set out to mine anything in particular. Oh you want iron? Here's 4 light-years worth of haphestanite

[lilac flame]

anyone have Riccite and agricum that I could get?

[nimble pilot]

So with the nerfing of salvage missions, whats the next best thing to do

[native aurora]

Well, my old standby was commodity runs but I'm hearing scuttle but that lots of stations are out of stock and uex/SC trades hasn't caught up yet.

[past fractal]

Honestly, just do what you enjoy. Money comes over time. It isn't a race, and treating it like one is just going to lead to frustration. Relax, find something chill you enjoy doing, and don't sweat money or rep for now.

[desert veldt]

I like hauling becouse I get to ram all the other abandoned ships near the freight elevators into oblivion.

[stray tide]

does strata armour provide any buffs?

[opaque dock]

are there external elevators on refinery stations?

[spare cloud]

Some yes, some no.
There are external elevators where there are a cargo center.
In Stanton, that's the Low orbit stations and the gateway ones.

The latter also happen to have refineries.

[tall karma]

Can you sell salvaged fuel

[pearl juniper]

I am now being offered a salvage mission requiring a total of 6 competition grade components... As far as I know those aren't stock on any ship, so where do you get them short of buying them? Did CZs give competition components, I forget it's been a while.

[verbal tangle]

CZs aren't spawning any loot right now, based on IC reports

[pearl juniper]

But did they ever spawn size 2 competition components?

I'm just trying to figure out how you are even supposed to do this turn in

[spare cloud]

Nightfall in Ruin for example

[verbal tangle]

Sell CMAT to pay for cheap comps at a store?

[pearl juniper]

Nightfall is stealth

[pearl juniper]

Yeah I think I could buy them and turn them in and make money in it. Seems silly but I think the math works out

[verbal tangle]

just buy the cheapest one, sell cmat for funding, cmat should sell for higher cost than the comps if you get the cheapest.

like size 1 grade c comp

cheapo for the mission, should be able to make profit still on a truck full of CMAT

[spare cloud]

Missed the competition part.
Completly overlooked it because it looks like "component", so I just read Size 2 components

[spare cloud]

Check this website https://exec.redline-arsenal.net/

[pearl juniper]

They have to be size 2, but yes obviously but the cheapest that fit the requirements

[verbal tangle]

oh your original comment just says 6 competion components

I just assumed size 2 cause easier to loot s2 than s1 off fighters

[pearl juniper]

Oops, I thought I listed the size. That's the problem, I'm pretty sure zero ships exist that come stock with size 2 competition components.

I can't find any on erkul anyway. The competition stuff is all on racers and those are all (naturaly) small ships.

[spare cloud]

Just not in the og post, you did after

[pearl juniper]

Yeah, I meant to in the first one, just missed that detail

[keen garden]

There is one that commonly spawns in QV stations, but yea those aren’t spawning comps

[elder arrow]

Trying to figure out if running these 250k intersec missions are faster then doing some hauler contracts for aUEC farming

[cloud condor]

does it makes a differance in wich station you refine CM?

[verbal tangle]

Only at levski as far as I know

Levski gets a bonus to CMAT

[cloud condor]

ok, thx

[hushed elm]

Should I melt my reclaimer if I’m 70% of the time flying it solo? I have the vulture but the reclaimer still seems to make a lot more with solo mulching. Docking being broken sucks so much tho

[left ore]

What's a good way to break up a big ship hull like a Polaris if you're trying to fracture in a Vulture? Tried laying into the hull for like 30 minutes with all manner of ship weapons and it only went red, never broke apart.
Using missiles seems counter-productive from a cost / earnings perspective but if a precise application is the best way, I'm open to it.

[keen garden]

That’s not a reason I’d used to melt it

It’s best used solo with current tuning

[left ore]

yeah Reclaimer solo is still going to outpace a Vulture handily I think.

[keen garden]

I don’t think there’s a good solution to this

Even when you explode it it’s gonna be too big to scoop most of it

[left ore]

but maybe the Vulture could actually fracture the chunks?

[keen garden]

If you rewlly want to tho, just pop open the airlock and backspace it

[left ore]

yeah it was bricked and I couldn't seem to get Backspace to work

[keen garden]

Ah

[left ore]

still got like 50 boxes of Const.Mat just shooting off chunks and the engine

[hushed elm]

It’s also just such a cool ship and mostly bug free. I’m just worried about being attacked while I’m stacking boxes in the back lol

[hushed elm]

Where are you finding scrapable polaris? I bet that’s a ton of salvage

[left ore]

Outside Orbituary, there were a bunch of abandoned ships. A Hull-series we never even got to.
it really was a ton. Me and a buddy had planned to "fly around and salvage shipS" and we ended up doing only the Polaris. 50 Const. Mats and 60+ RMC, as a 2-man team it was really great with one person scraping full-time and the other printing boxes and loading a Raft.

[hushed elm]

Damnnnn that would save me a lot too since I don’t have to buy 10 20k contracts

Thanks!

Hopefully the Polaris breaks into multiple pieces unlike the 890 being 1 piece at 1200scu of rubble

[left ore]

I'd also check ground stations with missions, like Bueno Ravine. Last time I was there there were seriously 2-3 abandoned Ironclads and Perseus at most ground stations cluttering up the pads.

[left ore]

Not sure, I was never able to bust it up. A Reclamer maybe, but a Vulture can't fracture it.

like I said even just the engines and other float-away bits were able to give 50 Const.Mat

[hushed elm]

I think the reclaimers scrap claw is bigger than the vulture lol. If you ever want to borrow it shoot me a message if you multi crew it’s a money printer

[left ore]

That's a kind offer thanks! Yeah the guy I was working with was similarly inspired to upgrade to a Reclaimer, they do seem like money printers.

Love the name BTW 🥞

[hushed elm]

It’s a little rough solo having to run 2 miles to the cargo hanger haha. Tyty!

[left ore]

Yeah maybe just a bit:

[high wren]

need help with equipping my prospector. i keep buy helix 1 heads for it with surge and stampede modules attached but when i call the ship, the default arbour head is there and no modules. when i go to insure the parts, its says arbour, but when i pull up vehicle in mobiglass its shows it with helix attached. is mining toast for this patch?

[hushed elm]

Ya it’s absolutely massive. You can see the headlights from 20-30km away

[hushed elm]

Are you equipping the modules in the vehicle tab

[high wren]

yes

[hushed elm]

I was having that issue with scraper heads. I had to equip and unequip them like 5 times for it to finally attach

[keen garden]

I haven’t had that issue with my mole

[hushed elm]

Didn’t have the insure issue tho

[high wren]

k, problem is modules keep disappearing so i have to buy them again...

[keen garden]

But also I haven’t claimed it and don’t plan to ever claim it

[latent pasture]

Oh hey thats ny picture

[left ore]

Yes 📷 Photo Credits Tic

[bronze dirge]

How do I start Covalex missions for this patch? I've only seen Red Wind and Ling Family

I'd like to get that ts-2 bp

[keen garden]

Gotta get the intro mission, might help to try a different system, like nyx

Seems to be hard to find

[bronze dirge]

gotcha, thank you

Ill look for it, t his haul takes me to Pyro if I have time before work,

[frail cypress]

It usually shows up near one of the planets in Stanton.

[bronze dirge]

I havent seen it since patch drop, but thanks! ill keep an eye open as I travel around

[obsidian reef]

It does exist but it seems to be fairly rare. Server hopping and trying different planets ultimately worked for me

[bronze dirge]

maybe Ill try to farm it out tonight.

[proper furnace]

rumor check, does reaching master with Covalex award the XL-1 blueprint?

[keen garden]

Doubt it

If anything it’d unlock access to a contract that rewards the blueprint for it

[proper furnace]

I haven't seen a blueprint, no idea how that works yet.

[obsidian reef]

according to scmdb it is a possible reward for the master missions

https://scmdb.net/?page=fab&fab=BP_CRAFT_QDRV_WETK_S02_XL1_SCItem

[polar fable]

when should I be using the big handheld tractor beam over the pyroMT?

[proper furnace]

when moving larger containers

smaller handheld can lift up to 16 SCU containers. 24 SCU and 32 SCU containers need the larger maxlift tractor beam (or a ship or Argo ATLS mounted tractor beam)

[keen garden]

Any time you have it equipped

I don’t even bring a multitool tractor anywhere anymore

I keep a salvage multitool and an orebit multitool

[obsidian reef]

Yeah just use maxlift instead of the multitool even for smaller boxes just for the range

[polar fable]

thanks 😄

where should I go mining if I have a full crew MOLE? or is gem mining just more efficient/good at making money?

[quasi sandal]

Haven’t been quant mining for like 6 months. Is there anything different with mining quant since then? I noticed that it sells for like 140k/scu

[random patrol]

I just started covalex and I was outside crusader...showed up first try

[quiet sparrow]

Hey everyone, I need a friend who likes mining.

[obsidian reef]

I like mining

[polar fable]

is there a way to make scanning rocks faster?

with a MOLE?

whats the best planet/moon to go to gem mine?

[keen garden]

Where and how you find it is different from months ago

I’d argue it’s easier to find now

How you mine it is more or less the same, except it’ll be harder generally because more of the rock is quant

Up to 90% of it

[hardy sierra]

When I take 50k priced salvaging contract, ship on grid respawns after salvaged. Is it a bug (or possibly an exploit?) or intended since contract says "there are a few ships"?

[lofty drift]

im saving up for a reclaimer and im sitting at 19 mil auec, i used to mine before the huge changes they did, how good is mining now compared to then? specifically targeting only quant

[quiet sparrow]

Yay. I mainly need someone to buy materials from for crafting. Or to go mining with. It is quite relaxing, I know how to operate a laser. Klescher taught me that 🙃

[lofty drift]

or would it be more reliable to get a vulture for cmat

[small creek]

is the hull c still not able to be autoloaded in 4.8

[keen garden]

More or less

It works just as often as it did in 4.7

[lofty drift]

i know i was able to easily rack up auec when i traded quant to players but i am not sure if the 170k in-game prices can rank up to that, especially is quant is a lot rarer

[keen garden]

It’s still easy to find quant, arguably easier than in 4.6 and earlier, but you get less of it per rock

[lofty drift]

lets say i got mining for an hour

go*

how much quant am i leaving with

[keen garden]

Solo?

[lofty drift]

solo mole

[keen garden]

Because solo you’re gonna be leaving half of the rocks behind

[lofty drift]

pretty sure solo mole can crack up to like 70k rocks no?

[keen garden]

Eh

not without losing large chunks of the rock half the time

Quant is much more unstable, given up to 90% of it is quant rather than a small %

[lofty drift]

i mean quant has always had a small window, im fine with that

[keen garden]

You can expect to break up to 40k with relative ease, everything above will be a process

Sabir, multiple surges,

And it’s difficult to attach sabirs in space now

[lofty drift]

always was

[keen garden]

All I’m saying is pre the mining change, I could easily crack 60k rocks

Now a 50k is one I’d leave behind solo

Something has changed there

[lofty drift]

thats tough

cmat being 15k/scu then, is the salvation able to eat ships? or just vulture

im not including the moth cause thats real money

[keen garden]

I think it’s mostly just the instability/resist has gotten higher

It can eat ships

An arrow provides about .3 scu iirc?

To a salvation

That’s before refining

Which also costs $$

Refining 96 scu in a mole with dynex costs me 50k

[lofty drift]

up to what can a salvation eat tho

[keen garden]

More mean that, to get 1 scu you need to pay for quite a few contracts

It’s like 17 arrows

To make 15k from the cmats

math gets better though as you go up in ship size

Probably best to skip the small ship size and do the rmc turnin quests instead till you have better contracts

[obsidian reef]

Hey I do a lot of mining and would like to sell a bunch of stuff here and there. If you want we can mine together sometime

[quiet sparrow]

Sounds like a plan!

[hasty lintel]

Has anyone used the NPC Refueling in a Reclaimer? Did it work for you or no

[fierce harness]

Anyone know why Orison TDD won't recognize anything in my fright elevator? I can't sell anything

[keen garden]

What are you trying to sell

[fierce harness]

Feyta

[keen garden]

🤔

[fierce harness]

It see the stuff on my ship but not registering anything in the fright ele

[keen garden]

I don’t know what feyta is

The TDD has a set list of things it’ll buy

And it won’t buy anything stolen

Or illegal

[fierce harness]

FEYNMALINE*

[keen garden]

Or contracted

I think you need to sell that at mining outposts

[fierce harness]

Hmm

Ragolith had orison TDD listed

Can try else where but it's not even recognizing the divine and other ores

[fierce harness]

But it does when in the ship

[craggy tapir]

so
whats the best commodity to run rn?

been doing a bit of agriculture supplies in my ironclad

500k profit each run

[pearl juniper]

cmat is 15k, but remember you get back 20-30% of what you put into the refinery. So if you come back with 10 cmat rubble and 10 rmc, the RMC is worth ~75k and the cmat once refined is worth about 45k. Both are worth doing since the cmat takes less time, just don't be surprised when it's not as much as you expect.

[tall karma]

That's a gem right, right? Gotta sell at Admin I think

[jovial matrix]

I believe the starlancer max comes with some competition components

[jovial matrix]

Board it and self-destruct

Nevermind, should've read down farther lol

[random patrol]

RMC is boring....😁

[left ore]

It's definitely "mellow" so you have to be in the right mindset.

[random patrol]

Ive tried in my moth but.....man thats some zzzzzz

[left ore]

Well get some sucker friend to do the scraping while you print and offload boxes

[random patrol]

You busy?

[obsidian reef]

I like boring stuff

very chill

after work I can turn off brain

[jovial matrix]

Doesn't help that you're scraping in the worst scraping ship lol

[random patrol]

You shut your dirty mouth

[pearl juniper]

oh shit you are right, I forgot about that one. Power plants, coolers, and quantum drive.

[left ore]

Yes, at work. And I scraped a Polaris in a Vulture yesterday so I might need a break.

[random patrol]

I was being facetious because you said sucker friend

[left ore]

Very Clever 😉

[pearl juniper]

cmat is boring. it's just that thing you do after you finish scraping. point at ship, click, boom. boooring

[random patrol]

Hey now ive made a few mil just doing that

[jovial matrix]

🤝

Quant actually explodes again right?

[olive gull]

again? i never ceased to do so, you got a 22 mins window then BOOM.

[jovial matrix]

There was a period of time in 4.7 where it wasn't unstable, didn't know if it had been changed/fixed since then

[raven oracle]

Is there any direct interstellar hauling you can get to at some point?

If anyone still wants to find use for their Ironclad I have lots of luck just running the corvalex routes at Hurston because you're out of the way of QTing a bunch.

I usually get away with 5-7 contracts each haul

[jovial matrix]

Anyone else noticing that hauling missions with multiple pickup locations are bugged, and all the cargo spawns at only one of the pickup locations?

[polar fable]

anyone know if laser modules are additive or multiplicative? like surge + riegers?

[fierce harness]

I had to remove it from the storage container

is the roc broke? its not scanning

[bronze dirge]

Where did you get the Covalex Intro? I’ve been looking for days it seems like.

[raven oracle]

Either Lorville or Everus harbor is where I picked it up, it's the only two spots I've been hauling for Covalex.

[bronze dirge]

Gotcha, thanks!

[random patrol]

I found the intro contract when I was at orison

[bronze dirge]

I’ll trawl between the planets and stations again tonight then, thank you!

[jovial matrix]

I had it pop up in pyro, don't remember which planet I was around

[bronze dirge]

I logged out at Ruin this afternoon after an Interstellar. Maybe I’ll get lucky

[kindred falcon]

attempting to alert haulers to a contract bug issue below

you have a total of 14 scu of stims to deliver between 4 points in the verse like the example below

• boxes are not labeled as to which are supposed to go to which delivery point
• until you try sending an elevator down with the cargo, you wont see if you have the correct combination of specific size boxes

the game is merging contracted cargo box sizes after sending and retrieving into the elevator

[keen garden]

question is, will it split it at the next one

ship mining contracts do

[kindred falcon]

no, once merged they will not unmerge

[keen garden]

do they remain "contracted"?

[kindred falcon]

they are not recognized by the system anymore

i have been to both l3, l5, and l1. none of these are recognized as contracted cargo for the mission

just doing rookie and junior rank contracts on these

[jovial matrix]

bought a brand new stampede module and have it equipped to my prospector, but in the mining HUD it says its "offline" and I can't activate it. Anyone know why?

[kindred falcon]

have magically ended up with a 32 scu box. we shall see if it will let me finish one of these missions

[kindred falcon]

a brand new module, or one that was already expended?

[jovial matrix]

brand new, first time I'm using it since I bought it

[past fractal]

Alt + 1 / 2 / 3

It's an activatable module

[jovial matrix]

Ok I did know about that, but I think the problem is that its the second module slot and I was hitting alt + 1 😭

Thanks for the help lol

[kindred falcon]

the classic p.e.b.c.a.k. moment 🤣

[jovial matrix]

indeed lol

[kindred falcon]

thats my brain after 4 days of no sleep

white noise and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[raven oracle]

Is contract availability for how long it's up to grab or how long to finish it?

I still keep the contract till It's finished correct?

[past fractal]

For how long you have to take it before it changes

[pearl juniper]

well, that was the weirdest "commodity trading" run ever. Bought all the competition size 2 components for the contractor rank ~600k salvage turn in. Paid about 400k for them, turned them in for 200k profit. Not a bad margin, profit per SCU is huge, lol.

[jovial matrix]

Funny lol

[kindred falcon]

if anyone has experienced this issue or wants to experiment to get more reproductions, id appreciate it, as it is bricking the mission loops
https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-208564

[stray tide]

guys , is urx updated and can anyone tell me beat location to sell cmats

[keen garden]

look at the last updated column

that'll tell you when that row was last updated

it is community sourced

[hasty lintel]

Can I use the Hull C to move a bunch of 16 SCU Unrefined Construction Materials to a station inventory using the outside cargo loading bays? Or are the loading bays only for mission items?

[jovial matrix]

You can, just make sure the station you're unloading at has an external freight elevator. That'd be the orbital stations and gateway stations in stanton

[hasty lintel]

Would the cargo not be taken out if I used the Stations Callable Cargo?

Like that Loading/Unloading green box zone that stations have

[jovial matrix]

That wouldnt work, because you have to sell your cargo to the station before they give you the green unloading box. And since you're moving unrefined CMAT, you won't be able to sell it

[hasty lintel]

Damn. There goes that plan.

[hasty lintel]

Is there a refinery website that is currently up to date?

[hollow wraith]

do mining gadgets stack? like if I used 2 on the same rock would they both have an effect on it

[obsidian reef]

scmdb.net

[obsidian reef]

you can only use one

[rare abyss]

Kinda want to salvage freelancer max. anyone know where and which contract that i can encounter it?

[craggy tapir]

Whats the best commodity to run rn?

Autoload is preferred much

[native aurora]

right now i would just try to find the one in stock.

its been rough finding any with the rush to run commodities now that salvage cargo is nerfed

but all things being equal titanium is good profit, but more risk.

[craggy tapir]

can you use auto loading atc with ironclad?

[mild pumice]

no, only auto load with commodity purchases

ATC cargo is only for Hull C

[echo lodge]

Red Wind has some good profits

[junior fern]

should I do the Red Wind missions instead of starting Covalex?

[echo lodge]

For money, red wind. For the component bps, quantum drives, covalex

[junior fern]

money first, then I can go for BPs

doing my beginner hauling in a Nomad

[echo lodge]

how many scu?

[junior fern]

it holds 24

which is an upgrade over what would have been my starter hauler, the Avenger Titan

still have the Titan though

[echo lodge]

the smaller junior contracts for red wind are 172K

Trainee are 100K

Covalex would be 50-80k for those brackets

[junior fern]

huge

are they multi point dropoffs?

[echo lodge]

Got your usual multipoint and directs

[junior fern]

my biggest enemy will be framerate/lag

[echo lodge]

although stacking covalex rookie from station to city is still wuick and easy

[junior fern]

I remember doing it in a rented RAFT a few patches ago

[remote steppe]

So I lost my IC to the void after the jump two sessions ago. I couldn't find it.
It was a subscriber loaner. Strangely available for more than 7 days (I guess CIG is trying to make up for the mess any way they can).
I then CCU'd to IC and started using the new one.

Now the lost ship reappears with the Cargo and I'm still an owner.
I wonder if I can attach the CM from the new ship to the old IC.

[junior fern]

might be able to?

I hope when Railen drops the tractor beams are controllable from the bridge

and if not, that it can easily fit an ATLS somewhere not on the grid

[obsidian reef]

you gotta pray

[remote steppe]

I'm amazed that CIG couldn't figure out a dedicated spot for ATLS on haulers.
They added the best tractor tool to the game and didn't even think about fitting it nicely into the hauling ecosystem.
It would've been fine if at least Argo RAFT got such a spot, god knows there's a plenty of space on its belly to fit ATLS without wasting grid space.

[remote steppe]

as expected, the ship is bricked now and I cannot move it with it's 2.5mil cargo.

[minor socket]

so... caranite? I need to make a badass Parallax rifle, is allign and mine literally the only way?

[craggy tapir]

mucho cargo

[long grail]

Yes

[minor socket]

Kinda boned if im solo?

[storm storm]

is ok if you watch out

[polar fable]

quick question, for mining lasers and their optimal range, do you need to be anywhere closer than its max dmg range? or do you need to be at a specific distance?

like if it says optimal on helix 2 is 30m, does that mean you just need to be closer than 30m to have max laser power effectiveness?

[bitter ferry]

It'll show on the mining UI the exact spot which is your optimal range. Going closer can potentially give you more power but obviously you're more prone to damage when the rock pops. Going further back will of course reduce your power.

[quasi sandal]

where is the best location to find quantanium

[mild pumice]

almost thru Jnr rank for Red Wind, I still have PTSD from the last two times I did this rep grind

[wise stump]

so frustrating, I just mined a bunch off goods. refined it. all 800+ stuff. I get it transported to levski. Ship goes in storage straight after i land. I want to bring the ship up. all is gone. the 964 janalite.

[olive gull]

The hangar at Levsky has been extremely prone to ships disappearing and all sorts of bugs from the start.
I'm not sure if there are any active Issue Council reports; probably there aren't, and that's why those bugs will remain unfixed.

[wise stump]

yeah I know. its just frustrating the time we waist on bugs.

yesterday i took a mate 1 hour to come to stanton because of bugs, and server hops just to get to location.
That teleport thing starting to look more and more great. Like go to a location put your character in a pod. and you spawn at a location in the other system to save time

[quasi sandal]

my friend had the same issue with his idris, except he was calling it up. turns out it got teleported inside the sun. he was able to see it's marker and warp to it. and the whole area was just a massive ship graveyard. he just kept seeing ships spawning inside of each other then exploding XD. so your ship is probably inside the sun now.

[wise stump]

its not there this time

but i have seen my ship in the sun a couple of times

i find it just funny how few bugs have been with us for so long. you would think those been fixed. and now a new patch comes in and it just bugs on the new sstuff:)

[quasi sandal]

yea its rough, also annoying how some of the old bugs return

[sour folio]

Question, I don't really like mining but I understand its becoming more of a crucial role in the game for crafting. I mainly play solo and the mining ship I've got is the prospector, would the jump from a prospector to a golem be huge & further limit the rocks I can break?

[spare cloud]

Golem alone is significantly worse than Prospector to crack rocks with.

If you have an Asgard or a Hercules, then a Golem paired with one of those as mothership and extra bags will do great, but a Prospector with 890J/Polaris will do even better if you don't like going back and forth between the refinery and your mining site.

[sour folio]

Yeh I dont have a ship that size I could use as a mothership, I would just be running back & forward between locations. So thats why I was debating melting it for a ship with a different gameplay loop or the golem, But now I think about it. I might just make money & buy crafted items off the player market for aUEC

[spare cloud]

You can upgrade the Prosp bags to be 48 SCU. Not Golem.

[sour folio]

Yeh I already do that. Im gonna think on it a bit more about melting my prospector & leaving it as one of them ships I just buy ingame. Since I barely use it & I spent irl money on it XD

The only reason im wondering is because I upgraded my zeus to a hermes & want to go back, but because the zeus is the warbound concept version I'd need to spend irl money on it again, So im looking at melting that + the prospector and getting 2 new ships

[deft sigil]

have cig talked at all about unsecured cargo / there ever being a reason not to just stack loose RMC boxes to the ceiling in a reclaimer, cause the way the ironclad and ironclad assault are separated by one having a repair bay instead of a rear cargo grid makes me think what's to stop people just filling that space with boxes anyway

are they planning to make loose boxes cause problems or what

[elder falcon]

Anyone find when they go out for a few hours mining then return a lot of the minables have disappeared when you try and refine them?

[stray tide]

Guiys is hull c fixed this patch ? , was anyone able to test it out

[lyric rune]

so Iron

where high quality

since Regolith is dead now

[cloud condor]

any diff between the starfarer and theGemini other than the weapons?

[keen garden]

not that i'm aware of, but there are in game limits

you can have up to 100 loose objects in a given "area", not sure what that area is. but, with the reclaimer, this means you can fit 100 16 scu boxes off grid inside it.

or, 99, if you have a cruz bottle somewhere on the floor

for every additional box that you let loose off grid, one other box or object will disappear

[tall karma]

https://scmdb.net

[hazy ridge]

I think I fell in love with the Hermes

I randomly chose this ship to rent

and it was the best decision I couldve make

Like wow, the feeling is really heavy and intense while flying. I know that makes it harder and weaker compared to others but its about the vibe

Also this tractor beam is so so so so so so nice for soloplay

[long frost]

happy for you mate

[knotty mulch]

Salvation any good ?

[mossy summit]

Commodity trading doing okay?

[past fractal]

It's an okay starter with a module change. Stock, it's a torture device.

[past fractal]

Working for me

[knotty mulch]

what shouldi change on it

[obtuse sierra]

so it's not just me right? docking for refuel missions is buggy?

[mild pumice]

New mission loop buggy? That would be a shock

I need to dust off my loaner Starfarer and give them a go tbh

[obtuse sierra]

for me it's a coin flip if the npc ship successfully docks or not

[mild pumice]

Do I need a crew member? With the Starfarer? I was actually tempted to get a Starlite as I have fiddy bucks credit on my account

[obtuse sierra]

nah, you can just leave the pilot seat and use the fuel terminal yourself

they're right next to eachother

[mild pumice]

Ah cool. But I need to go to the terminal myself

[obtuse sierra]

if you're solo yeah

[mild pumice]

Is that on the lite? The Starfarer I thought was on the footway outside?

[obtuse sierra]

starfarer. it's just across the room, like 5 feet away from the pilot seat

[mild pumice]

Ah cool
Thanks, I never use the ship lol
It's a dusty loaner for my endeavour

[obtuse sierra]

np, i wish you luck in the docking. everything else with the loop seems to work fine other than the docking coin flip

[mild pumice]

I don't think I've delivered it in like 10 patches

[obtuse sierra]

issue is the npc ship docks to you once you're close enough, so it's out of player control to resole the problem

resolve

[mild pumice]

Makes sense. Cheers

[past fractal]

Change the Cinch modules for either Abrades or Trawlers

Unless you like scraping an area the size of a dime

[deep robin]

is mining still broken guys?

[kindred falcon]

i hate the hermes out of principle lol

[kindred falcon]

what part of mining are you asking about>

[shell cedar]

Been working for me mostly, except the cutter and prowler
Usually I have to kinda poke them in different spots around the correct one until they randomly latch on

[deep robin]

where you mine and lose yiur ores

or any work arounds

[shell cedar]

Or reset the docking process until they finally lock

[kindred falcon]

gonna have to be more specific than that, from face value its hard to tell what you are referring to

[obtuse sierra]

reset?

[shell cedar]

Withdraw the boom to cancel the auto dock and try again

[obtuse sierra]

ah gotcha, will give it a try

[onyx trench]

are there any caveats to autoloading commodities onto an empty C2 (at Levski)

the options ahve a red highlight and don't offer the box size interfact option

*interface

[shell cedar]

The cutter is the big issue, I've seen them latch on from all 4 sides of the cockpit, or after sliding into the boom and pitching 90 degrees down

Very strange

Only seen 1 prowler but based on my experience with that one they're all going to be terrible like the cutter

Starlite to cutter docking seemed fine, but the starfarer hates it

[raven oracle]

How does hailing for the cargo spots work? It never triggers anything for me.

I assume that's where I should be going If I'm loading 2000+ SCU. I don't think I'm ok with manually loading 2000 SCU in a hanger lol

[delicate girder]

Is autoloading working? How long does it take to autoload a C2? Is the ship safe while autoloading?

[steep relic]

Did you ever get an answer on this? I'm thinking of purchasing one today.

[stray tide]

No , still looking for one

i only have like 9 mill so far , dont want to spend 15 mill on hull c , id rather use that for mole

if you get to know lmk

[slate spruce]

You need a Hull C, hail cargo services, it'll create a blue transparent box, you need to fly inside, fully stop and the cargo will be autoloaded.
Unless there's some bug, ofc

[shell cedar]

I tried today and hailing cargo services did nothing so I assume it's still just broken

[stray tide]

If you are doing it , can you please let us know if it works

[steep relic]

ty. And same, sitting at 10mil rn but dont wanna dump all of my money into a broken ship. if I find anything I'll keep u uptated.

[steep relic]

Me too please!

[stray tide]

did nothing is alway broken , the mainthing im loking for is if all the cargo is being struck to one spot , if thats no the case we can use it

[shell cedar]

Dont.you have to autoload to get to that point

I don't get the cube so I can't even see if they all get stuck in 1 spot

[stray tide]

For covalax cargo hauling you should be able to jsut call it

do you own a hull c already?

[shell cedar]

Yea

[stray tide]

will it possible for you to loan it?

[shell cedar]

I can't get on right now but if I'm on in a few hours I can ping you and see

[stray tide]

or do you have experienced rank , coz im almost ther e, wau @steep relic , are you experienced ? i mean the rank

[stray tide]

ill be on again in 10 hours , maybe lenny can do it ,

[shell cedar]

Yea I have experienced, I took the large hauls and went to Evers for cargo

Hailed cargo services and I never get the cube

[steep relic]

I'm member atm still, halfway through though.

[stray tide]

this is what helped me , some may call it cheating , but i just stack 6-7 for same lcoations planatary samll haul make sure that each gets 25 % atleast and sub mit them

[shell cedar]

I could manually load but obviously that's not ideal

[stray tide]

no no ,just the auto laod , may i know how you calle dit

via mobi?

[shell cedar]

Both mobile and the mdf

Tried both on multiple servers

[stray tide]

ok ... then im not sure , there one more thing a short cut request cargo , maybe that may help ?

[stray tide]

I gues sthen it is still broke at that point

[steep relic]

What's a good replacement for cargo hauling then? The C2 hurcules?

[stray tide]

HUllb and less than 400 scu cargo any good to do it ? pre wipe i just used hull c to do experienced

[shell cedar]

I'll probably just end up leveling with the c2, wanted to skip through exp fast

Hull b should be fine I think

[stray tide]

deally the Fatterpillar

[shell cedar]

Thankfully refueling missions pay such an absurd amount I can afford all these stupid ships

[stray tide]

yea , only thing with c2 is need to land and do lot of wiglgings BS , Hull b better imo

[stray tide]

REALLY????

[shell cedar]

1.8m for the Sr contractor fleet refuel

Or 450k for a single ares

[steep relic]

You need a refueling type of ship for this?

[shell cedar]

I do 1 fleet refuel and 1 or 2 ares with every starfarer load

[stray tide]

and how long is the grind ?

[shell cedar]

You need the starfarer

It's pretty short imo

[stray tide]

yeah , i can buy a astar light to get started for the begnienr one s(with store credit)

[shell cedar]

Once you get contractor you can go do stanton/Pyro and take the 150k refueling missions in Pyro that are always ambushes

6 at a time

Don't even need to refuel

[stray tide]

ambushes as in like they try and kill you and need to fight or just jump away

[stray tide]

How far do you think we can push with starlight

[shell cedar]

There's one of those decoy sats and an aurora mk1 comes to beat you up

You have to kill it

You can get all the way to Sr contactor with Starlite, you just need to upgrade for the last contacts

[stray tide]

upgrade with ..?

[shell cedar]

Just have to check your refuel targets because the Starlite doesn't have enough for all of them, like the vanguard

[stray tide]

ok ill check on it and prolly do them , coz if it pays 1.8 mill thats prolly the best way to make money

[shell cedar]

To starfarer

For rhe 1.8m mission

And 450k ares mission

[stray tide]

whicih is better , gemini or normal star farer

[shell cedar]

I did fleet refuels all day for.like 2 days and got probably like 60m

[stray tide]

then ill prolly switch to refuelling from 2mrw , after i finsh my memebr ranks

[stray tide]

DAM FOR REAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats huge

yeah im a start doing it before they nerf the shit out of it

[shell cedar]

Gemini is strictly better imo but it also basically makes no difference for these.missions

[stray tide]

but what is the difference though

[shell cedar]

You get attacked by Gladius on the fleet refuel but they can't pen eithernship

[stray tide]

ima do them from 2mrw , it stoo late for me to do it now

[stray tide]

oh got it

[shell cedar]

S5 top turret instead of s4, more armor, missile launcher instead of useless fuel scoop

That's it I think

The only thing the Gladius do sometimes is attack the npcs ships and make them leave, so you do want to kill them

[stray tide]

damn thats not bad for 2 mill more

and if we can make that much then fk yeah

[shell cedar]

But the nose guns are good enough

The missile launch is nice but swapping the missiles isn't saving through insurance so you're kinda stuck with CS missiles

Which don't always want to lock

[stray tide]

will having gemini let me run more missions at a single time without refuelling again and again

[shell cedar]

Same cap, it's 20 scu X 6

But you can buy bigger pods

I have the 32 scu ones

[stray tide]

if so ill melt my reclaimer and grab a gemini, coz i bought reclaimer to print money perse

[stray tide]

so starlight and gemini have same cap?

[shell cedar]

Yea

[stray tide]

really…. wow

ok how mich are rhe 32 scu ones

[shell cedar]

Like 30k each the prices are weird

And there's 3 prices for each pod but they all seem to be the same

[stray tide]

but diest starlight have 2 pods vs gemini 6 pods?

[shell cedar]

Oh sorry I didn't read right

Starlite only has 2 pods and you can't swap them

So you're restricted to 20 Quant and 20 hydro

That's why you can't refuel heavy fighters with it

[stray tide]

got it , so in theory , i should jsut go out in gemini and do more misisosn back to back comared to starlight right ?

and also does it havea bed ?

[shell cedar]

Yea it has a bed

[stray tide]

nice , so i can jsut basically log off whenever

melting reclaimer rn

[shell cedar]

And yea any docking resupplies you can cut out save a lot of time

Especially since pads are so buggy rn

[stray tide]

yeah , i just want to make like couple hundread mil and i dont have to worry aboiut money for a while again

[stray tide]

buggy as in they dont refuel properly/

anmd should i jsut straight up get 32 scu pods instead of stock ones?

[shell cedar]

I don't even get the resupply interface

[stray tide]

damn

[shell cedar]

I would, it guarantees you can do the fleet refuel and at leastb1 ares before going back

You could get the expensive 30 scu ones if you care about flow rate

Oh and the fuel nozzle can't be swapped even though they just added all those blueprints for them

[stray tide]

idont know about all that , can you dumb it down and tell , which load out shoudl i get and how much it costs to claim t 🙂 , if you dont mind , i have a few mill i can spare sooo

[shell cedar]

Just get the 32s

Flow rate just changes how long it takes to put fuel into the target ship, it doesn't really matter imo

[stray tide]

can be bought at any refinery ig?

just bought the gemini

will try it 2mrw !

first thing

[shell cedar]

Not sure off the top of my head, I got mine at one of the gateways in nyx

[stray tide]

they have refineries

alr man , its been huge help

catch ya !

Do let me and lennny know if the HULL C works

[shell cedar]

Yep yep

[glass fox]

Morning all , any update on the refinery eating the ore load?

[stray tide]

also was watching a video on the gemini coz, me nub, i wanted to ask you, what to carry more hydrogen or quant or both equal

[shell cedar]

Ships barely want any quant so just 1 container, the other 5 should be hydro

[kindred falcon]

1 20 scu container can do like 20 missions worth if youre doing npc refueling

[shell cedar]

They only take 1-2 scu per ship

[stray tide]

ok , also that video talked about a bug , where hydro is consideres as scu instead of csu , is it still there?

[shell cedar]

Idk I haven't noticed any problems

[stray tide]

also what are the names of the pods , if you remeber by any chance

[past fractal]

this isn't actually a bug is the problem, those are the actual fuel tanks sizes due to piss poor coding

Until they adjust the fuel sizes down by about 90% and the consumption down by 85-90%, the Starlite is effectively useless

[stray tide]

got it

[vapid chasm]

hows mining this patch? seems like a lot of people complaining about buggy professions in general

[kindred falcon]

scanning rocks is a little funky and the ROC is still broken, but thats about all ive noticed

[past fractal]

Mining isn't as bad as last patch due to the quality changes, but it's still a pain in the arse

[stray tide]

i see 2 32 scu one s, one with 24 k one with 59 k , i dont see difrence in description

anuy idea what are the differences

[past fractal]

the cheapest one is empty, the middle price is full of hydrogen, and the expensive one is full of quantum

[vapid chasm]

how're the payouts? i know they mess with that stuff every patch too

[stray tide]

oh so it coems pref illed then ?

can i cahnge fuel comps if needed?

[past fractal]

you can purge the tanks and refill them with w/e

[stray tide]

ok ,how to purge them in the terminal ?

[junior fern]

what quality changes?

[past fractal]

All quality is banded to 8 bands now

so no more 1,000 qualities

you have 8 different qualities across 1,000 numbers

[junior fern]

huh, neat

[kindred falcon]

the rng can be punishing lol

i spent an ungodly amount of time the other day in the hurston system looking for hadanite to complete a contract and was getting literally every other ROC/GEO mineable other than it

thats the one part i wish we would have a bit more variety on is the mining contracts

[past fractal]

I generally despire rng, which is why I refuse to bother with crafting

[kindred falcon]

its like the same 3 gems/ores at the same 3 amounts repeatedly

they need to hurry up and fix autoload/docking, im almost at the point of hull-c level contracts and i cant really use it right now

[past fractal]

there are no hull c contracts

they removed those

[kindred falcon]

i know they removed the recoveries on the hull c, im just talking about me getting hauling missions n crap for the hull c

too many people using the gamerules hull c for unintented profit

[mild pumice]

not specific ones but any hauling mission can be done with the Hull C at supporting stations, including stacking multiple contracts (when it works)

[past fractal]

I'm not talking about the salvage missions

[kindred falcon]

need a fix on the IC too

[past fractal]

The Hull C hauling missions were removed

because the Hull C is broken

[mild pumice]

I don't believe that was the reason they removed those contracts, I think it was symptom of when the changes were made for server meshing

because when they introduced the new interstellar ones was when they went

[past fractal]

Hull C was the only ship that could run them

you needed a minimum of 3-4 other ships, all C2's to run them otherwise

[kindred falcon]

my jump from hull-b to hull-c/IC in terms of scu sizes still feels a little awkward too. going from 500+ scu to 2200-4600 scu and nothing in between. thats one of the few things i think ill be looking for a way to work around

[past fractal]

Railen is going to fill a little of that gap

[kindred falcon]

yeah, ive got that one pledged, but thats still a very large gap lol

[past fractal]

and supposedly we're getting other alien industrials during alien week

[mild pumice]

ironclad is crying now

[kindred falcon]

it aint the ironclad, its the ironsad

[past fractal]

Mine is working great

[kindred falcon]

cause this release is god awful

though i give it slack cause its new tech

the hull c having as many problems as it still does is the true shame

makes me worried about implementation for d/e

[past fractal]

Hull C runs on abandoned tech

[mild pumice]

Hull C issues are mostly just server deg tho

[past fractal]

they've stated they're going to redo the autoloading thing entirely

[kindred falcon]

2 ships i have legitimately not touched but maybe once or twice outside of their first 1-2 months of flight ready status: ARGO SRV and MISC Hull C LOL

[mild pumice]

I used my Hull C this patch to do a few interstallar hauls

[past fractal]

I wish the SRV had literally anything to do at all other than be a hangar queen

[kindred falcon]

they need to start giving out contracts to haul abandoned ships away from armistice zones

ive yet to try it, but can the srv even tow the bigger ships we have been getting?

[mild pumice]

missions to tow abandoned ships top scrap yards be good

[past fractal]

they used to have some, then they took them out. It was basically haul this ship to x station. They removed them because the hauling while in quantum was broken, and then they never put them back in

[past fractal]

maxes out at connie in quantum

you can however, slow tow up to an ironclad

C2 in atmo

don't ask how I know all that

[kindred falcon]

we just need it to really be able to tow outside of armistice zone tbh

[past fractal]

I didn't spend dozens of hours testing every ship

nope, not me

[kindred falcon]

good ol hyperfixation

[past fractal]

funnily, a Hull C weighs less than a C2 in space, even fully loaded. A hull B can move one

[kindred falcon]

i feel like its because the ship mass is much less than the c2 and the game isnt accounting for the mass of the cargo

[past fractal]

it's oddly exactly that. The C2's mass increases with onboard cargo. The Hull C does not, since the cargo is counted as being "on" the ship, not "in" the ship

[kindred falcon]

id love to compare the 2 of them unextended to see the compressed size difference, but all of the fleetviewers ive seen have them with the spindles extended

[past fractal]

Tractor beams, like the Maxlift, and the ship board ones, all care about weight too. A box that is 32 CU has multiple weights it can be. Some tractors can lift some of them, but not others

[kindred falcon]

like, i can pull the lengths off of the wiki, but im more visual

[bronze dirge]

So earlier I was running the 750k interstellar hauling two stop. On our way away from the first stop we got attacked. Pyro, no surprise or big deal. I’m curious if they were players or part of the mission/roaming npcs?

Anyways, I should have run.

[past fractal]

Likely players. I don't think those missions have NPC pirates yet

[jovial matrix]

Assuming you swap the stock cinch modules for abrades, its an amazing scraping ship. Downside is it doesn't carry much cargo, but if you have a larger ship that you can use as a mothership/cargo carrier, I think the salvation is an excellent ship

[bronze dirge]

They were kind enough to let us finish the first sale at least before attacking, and we took one or two with us.

Best part is I respawned in my URSA as it was falling through the atmosphere.

[mild pumice]

Was it above one of the settlements? It can be NPC ships as well as players, NPCs are easy to spot as they just strafe around, they're not part of the mission just can sometimes be at the location. If it was an interduction I hven't seen an NPC one since 3.x

[bronze dirge]

It was above a settlement yes

[mild pumice]

Yeah so could be either but often players just like to gank those spots, there's a few I avoid tbh, particularly around Bloom

[past fractal]

NPCs are about as lethal as a milk intolerance though

[bronze dirge]

It was bloom lol

[mild pumice]

Let me guess, shepherd's rest? Lol

[bronze dirge]

They blew our powerplany and stayed mostly behind us. But also nothing in chat

Yuuup

[mild pumice]

Yeah, that's gankville

[past fractal]

yeah, those were players. NPCs won't subtarget yet

[bronze dirge]

Also, someone drove a forklift onto my ship and just kinda vanished while I was making my way from the command pod to the cargo deck

[mild pumice]

Must admit I'm guilty myself I deleted two ships there just in case (they were red tho)

[bronze dirge]

I expected more trash talk. Still it was a good fight/ambush

My gunner must have spent the entire time I was unload looking in every nook and cranny on my ICA for the forklift guy. Never found him, no busted doors, etc

Just gone

[kindred falcon]

damn, thats nice of em. i aint touched pyro much this patch cause i was tired of people squatting entry mission areas for kills on people who just wanted to pick up 6 scu boxes of fucking fruit

like bro, im in a starter ship and you got 6 guys, leave me alone and fight someone who can actually do something

[bronze dirge]

I usually run the Ruin Station Interstellar and have no issues. This was almost 3x the pay though

[vapid chasm]

huh did my first delivery mission successfully and the only bugs i had were with the fucking map/routing system

was a multi-transport multisystem one too, from 4 places in stanton to pyro, it's nice that it's at least all delivered to the same place. i remember most of these missions in the past would be picking up from 3-4 places and delivering to 3-4 other places

cool 500k though

[raven oracle]

You run these in the Ironclad?

I've been too scared to touch the gate with my IC at all let alone for a mission haha.

[bronze dirge]

Its not usually to bad, just...quirky. Not as bad as it used to be

[raven oracle]

I've just been running the large direct contracts between Arccorp and Hurston, I usually have to deal with one or two CM disconnects there and back.

Do you eventually unlock direct interstellar?

[bronze dirge]

main bug that bothers me is how inconsistent roof access hatch behaves

[raven oracle]

I don't really touch them in the first place because of all the places you gotta go

[raven oracle]

I've never been able to get up the ladder lol

[bronze dirge]

I had direct interstellar immediately.

[past fractal]

For Ironclad issues

#4-8-0-live message

[raven oracle]

Whattt where did you pick those up?

[raven oracle]

Damn this sounds like hell

Might just stay away from it

[past fractal]

It's honestly a very minor amount of stuff to do...

[bronze dirge]

I honestly dont even do that. I just reconnect if I drop out,and since the CM undocks 2/3 of the way through the wormholes... I just drops me into the side I was heading too anyways.

my main issue right now is the FE's not loading in. Its just a Big hole in the side of the space station cargo spine

[tropic swallow]

If I am crafting, can I use x grade iron with y grade iron?

Or does it all have to be one quality

[jovial matrix]

You can, I asume it takes the average of the qualities, not actually sure tho

[junior fern]

what are we hoping the other Gatac ship will be?

[bronze dirge]

Is there a new one being announced? Or is it just the Railien?

[junior fern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1079505748075221092/1507824968292106250/image-139.png?ex=6a134eee&is=6a11fd6e&hm=f88a7222486ac563d9df70a39c9eae0678193d8ee765ccb386ca881cb34a9d0f&

damn, no embed perms

#ccu-and-fleet-advice message

anyways check that

[jovial matrix]

Went to pyro for some riccite, pretty good for a quick 1 hour session

[delicate girder]

Isn't that more than a Mole can hold? Maybe I'm reading it wrong. If so, was it a Mole with multiple bag switches or something? Been a while since I've done it.

Maybe that's in mili or micro SCUs? Like I said, it's been a while for mining for me.

[past fractal]

That's about two and a half SCU on the screen

[vapid chasm]

how much is that worth?

[fickle kraken]

Looking at the scanning data from Daymar, the distribution of Hadinite deposits doesn't make geochemical sense. Hadinite is clearly a localized, high-pressure polymorph, but we are finding it in loose, superficial regolith rather than deep, regional metamorphic veins or impact craters. Did devs model Hadinite formation as a low-temperature hydrothermal precipitation event or just procedural asset distribution that completely ignores tectonic and structural geology constraints? Cause if it's a mineral deposit formed by rapid outgassing, the fracture-fill orientation should align with local fault lines, but the current grid looks purely randomized

[past fractal]

"the current grid looks purely randomized"

because it is

[junior fern]

go go gadget gambling!

[fickle kraken]

What about new gen planet that they promise?

[past fractal]

No planet movements, unrealistic rotations, physics is a joke, lasers are not based on light. It's a game, not a simulator

[junior fern]

I do wonder how the planet gen will look

[delicate girder]

How do you turn on that auto eject feature on the Salvation?

[past fractal]

There's a small screen to the bottom right of the cockpit. Hold F and look down there, check the auto eject box

[delicate girder]

Got it. Thanks.

Also while I was trying buttons I deactivated one of the scrapers and don't know what I did. What are the default controls for activating or cycling through the scraper modes.

[past fractal]

So, I don't remember the specifics, but try these. You likely either hit Alt + A (left scraper) or Alt + D (right scraper)

You can use Alt + W or Alt + S (I forget which one) to turn both back on, or you can just turn on the one you turned off.

Ideally, you'll turn off the one that's left on, then turn both on at the same time.

[delicate girder]

thanks

[hasty lintel]

Yeah fam ive been looking at this the whole day and dont know where to find anything that relates to a refinery

Disregard; just found the teeny tiny Refinery button

[delicate girder]

Weird. I can switch between the Salvation's salvage heads on the HUD (left alt-a, both alt-s, right alt-d), but the right head doesn't seem to be working. I don't think it's damaged.

The left one functions in left or both mode.

[past fractal]

You might need to land it and store it, kind of, soft reset it

[delicate girder]

Was looking for a MFD screen where I might be able to check the health of the heads.

I see the health of the guns.

Ah, there it is. One of the heads is off and I can't turn it on. Could I be not giving it enough power?

Says its health is 100%.

[past fractal]

Try full power cycling

[split cedar]

has anybody actually had any luck with the Hull C in Stanton? can't seem to get a single station to cargo load.....and mixed info on discord and redit

[past fractal]

The Hull C has been broken for quite a while. They even removed the Hull C missions from hauling loops. The ship is completely nonviable unless you are loading and unloading at external elevators

[lofty drift]

hello gents, whats better the starlite or the starfarer?

[bronze dirge]

ok, got a stealthy build, lets try some unverified hauling. An tips? Or is it just fly low, low power, and fast as I safely can? Prowler-U

[junior fern]

stealth build on what?

[bronze dirge]

added it to my original message

[junior fern]

ah

[ivory bronze]

I was trying to use sc-trade.tools for getting a trade route going to get some money. It said starting at Lorville buy Ship Ammunition but there is only specific size ammo now, would it matter what size I buy? How do I know that Area 18 would buy whatever ammo I get?

[past fractal]

The Starlite in its current state is absolute trash. It cannot switch tanks, cannot do anything other than starter missions, and half the time, doesn't work anyway. The starfarer, while in a whole other class of ship, works most of the time, and can be used correctly. Fundamental changes to the profession and the Starlite need to happen before it will become viable

[lofty drift]

okay cool cool

[ivory bronze]

!tradetools

[fallen badge]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[ivory bronze]

re

[past fractal]

You can check UEX Routes

[ivory bronze]

uexcorp.space?

[past fractal]

yarp

[ivory bronze]

I was looking at the commodities there. Thanks for lmk it has trades!

[past fractal]

Yeah, in the drop down, choose Routes, set your buy station and your sell station

[kindred falcon]

do we even get large+ size hauling contracts anymore or are they capped at medium?

[past fractal]

you can set your ship too if you want a precursor look at costs and ROI too

[kindred falcon]

i aint had a single large contract pop

[past fractal]

I know they got rid of the Hull C contracts for hauling, but beyond that, I don't know what else they changed with hauling

[ivory bronze]

I am doing that now. Thanks!

Looks like I can get 97% ROI

[past fractal]

That's likely flooded man

[kindred falcon]

like, my tab barely gets a lot of medium contracts (and this thing needs a freaking sort function or summ cause having 50+ contracts in one section is absurd)

[ivory bronze]

Hmm?

[past fractal]

Seriously. It's why I stopped running contracts. Can't scroll either, have to click

[past fractal]

lol, that's for waste

yeah, it's a 97% but you could run entire Ironclads and make pennies doing it

Generally, you want 25-35% ROI

any higher, and the market is either flooded or crap to begin with

[ivory bronze]

Yeah but it seems waste is the best to go for

[kindred falcon]

ive made decent contracts just slamming them off the hull-b, but like, theres never enough contracts in 1 place or accumulating through a route to justify using any larger ships rn

[past fractal]

Yeah, that's another reason I don't run them

[past fractal]

Look at the amount. That's like 17k profit

[kindred falcon]

bout to just mindlessly mine at this point for a change of scenery

[junior fern]

it’s not worth it

[ivory bronze]

Doubling what I put in it says

Almost

[past fractal]

Okay, let me put it this way

You can run a mission with 6 SCU for 50k

or you can run hundreds and hundreds of SCU for 17k

[ivory bronze]

I got a hermes(and other ships) and like 100k. I know I could do the hauling and make more but

Could load up an idris LOL but doing the unloading by hand would SUCK

I was hoping to run across some where I put in 1mil and came out with 3mil or so but I am not there yet

I guess I just haul again

Maybe I use the raft and not hermes this time

[junior fern]

is there even any reason to do commodity trading over mission running?

[past fractal]

preference

that's about it though

technically, you can auto load and unload too doing commodities

if you like waiting

[ivory bronze]

I think the auto is quicker tbh

[past fractal]

Oh it is

[ivory bronze]

I was doing it a few wipes ago in a Polaris in between exec hangers

[past fractal]

but you're stuck waiting instead of doing

[ivory bronze]

Which I don’t mind.

I can eat during that time

Oh well. Guess I won’t find a good commodity run to do

[past fractal]

There are many

just play with the routes tool

[junior fern]

wonder why salvage mode toggle keeps popping up in the tooltip corner when i’m in my Nomad

[bronze dirge]

does the same for me. Activates the tractor beam in such a way I cant use/see from its turret

[heavy jasper]

got 600k in 30 mins runnin around lorville then everest harbor for a rental with a refuel ship. Doesnt pay as much as my normal game loops but if youre travelling place to place its profit for chillin. Before that I stocked up at Ruin station then travelled to lorville for a 300k trade

[tender bluff]

Can I buy bigger fuel tanks for a starlite?

[native aurora]

Yeah commodities are gonna beat contracts in pure profit, but there's risk. You gotta put up the money and hope to not get pirated or have a 30k happen

[tender bluff]

lots of fun but I hate returning home every 2 runs

[native aurora]

Since slavage cargo got nerfed I've gone back to commodities but it seems lots of other people have too cause most routes I plan, station is out of stock

[native aurora]

I think you can put the starfarer tanks on it but I'm not certain

[tender bluff]

interesting

[rough haven]

@tender bluff can you not refuel your Starlite tanks from a Refuel Beacon?

[kindred falcon]

im trying to relearn some of the minign after being away for forever, whats the numbers above the heading correlate to

no idea what the 54000 means

[rough haven]

distance most likely

[kindred falcon]

wasnt there when i last was really into it

nah, distance was like much less than that

[maiden dome]

the is some tutorials, those number represents what exists there

i will find it to you

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fmining-help-sheet-rs-signatures-rev-3-24-1-v0-rfs8qvu0hyrd1.png%3Fwidth%3D3300%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dd17da69c4dde260659baa38ad46e0871d580586b

sorry those are old

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1rqj4da/47_mineables_signature_changes/

[past fractal]

No, the ship is bugged and cannot use other tanks

[shut cypress]

Is the Argo Moth fixed from release?

[whole fable]

aye guys when it comes to mining when is the right time to punch the modules?

like surge and al that

[past fractal]

MOTH is more broken now than it was last patch, but last patch it was working okay

[past fractal]

You kind of have to get a feel for when and how to use those

[shut cypress]

What are the current issues with it

[past fractal]

prints 1 SCU boxes, can't really do anything about it

[shut cypress]

it only prints singles or also the 8s?

[past fractal]

I haven't been able to get it to print 8s. There's no option for manual printing, the screen is blank, so you're stuck with auto-eject which spits out 1 SCU boxes

[glass scroll]

the moth can print the 8s if you have at least 8 scu of either rmc or construction pieces it'll allow you to print them but if you have less that 8 scu and toggle on the auto-eject it'll start printing 1 scu boxes

[opaque dock]

do inert material reducing modules still not work?

[stray tide]

i donth think so

[stray tide]

dOES ABANDONING REFUEL MISISOSN REMOVE REP ?

[jovial matrix]

Thats about 24.5 SCU of actual ore

One prospector's worth

[jovial matrix]

Idk yet, I'm gonna sell the 325 quality and keep the rest for crafting purposes

[hot cove]

How the hell does a Gladius schlorp up more than 50% of one of the starlite's fuel tanks in hydrogen fuel when the fuel tank itself is damn near as big as the gladius? Where is it putting all that fuel?

[spare cloud]

Haven't seen any mining fix in patch notes, and don't even think CIG is aware of the bug TBH.

[opaque dock]

hmm does at least extract power work?

[spare cloud]

It does, but that just affects the speed at which you extract, nothing else.

[hard timber]

are the starlites tanks actually locked to the default ones? every other tank ive tried does not show up in vlm. is it intentional?

[rough haven]

Starlite is broken just like every other released ship

@past fractal you can get it to spit out 8's if you fill it enough first. I'm not getting anything on the display until I've got at least 8 scu of material.

@shut cypress I think the process of converting Construction into sellable products is also borked to hell, I'm sorta testing a potential exploit where you can "double" dip the refinery process.

I feel like I was able to create a refinery order for the contents of my MOTH, I then moved the cargo off the MOTH into the freight elevator and setup a 2nd order. THe system is so borked with the empty containers its hard to tell what is happening.

[stray tide]

Guys , do we get refueling missions only in stanton?

[mild pumice]

I have seen them in Pyro too (at least the intro)

[opaque dock]

what could be preventing laser intencity % from changing?

[mild pumice]

Loving the Hull B at the moment, perfect for these local missions, lots of space to sort the cargo!

Got the old notepad out again too 😄

To remind me how much of each goes where. Took about 20mins all in easy 500k

[wide egret]

Hull B is going to be hard to beat because of this. I don't expect the Railen to be as easy to separate cargo like this

[obsidian reef]

Good point but I guess Railen will be a very good option for people flying point A to point B with no in-between

[nimble ledge]

Any tips how to get pure Carnite quickly?

[quiet night]

Anything able to be done with cargo from contracts?? fright elvator refuses to work som stuck with a load of crap, or do i just yeet it into space?

[mild pumice]

You might be able to sell it at Hex but it's probably not worth the journey

[tender gate]

Where can i rent the vulture in pyro ?

[spare cloud]

Nowhere.
Levski.

[tender gate]

only levski? aight ty!

[vestal ravine]

I need Sadarix for that Abrade Blueprint. Any locations aside from the QV stations? Thanks!!

[stray tide]

GUys i sthe esperia prowler bugged for fleet refuelelgin

[obsidian reef]

nope

players may sell them tho

[hazy siren]

anyone have a suggestion on how to fix freight elevators, i am trying to do a mining turn in for mission and the elevator is stuck lowered and wont come up. It always sends me to the same location for turn in and it's rarely working. tia

[vestal ravine]

Thanks for the reply doubt I pay 5 million for a 21K Abrade at the stores

[obtuse isle]

Any Reclaimer owners who've used the ship recently? On the fence of turning my Galaxy into a Reclaimer, would save $70 credits by allowing me to melt my med module and have a salvage ship for emergent material gathering for construction/crafting gameplay

[nimble ledge]

Salvage isn't profitable? One scu takes time with fortune, just for 2K..

[coarse ember]

it still is, just not as much as it used to be usually takes a few hours to get a decent chunk of money if you're only doing CM and not scraping the ship for rmc first

[mild pumice]

oof this is all the rep you get from 6 member missions in Pyro - this is going to be quite the grind to get those juicy 2million missions!

[pearl juniper]

One of the salvage turn in missions in pyro looks decently profitable

[hushed elm]

How much do Sr refueling contracts pay?

[tired meteor]

nearly ran out of space

[mild pumice]

stick a smol box in the airlock, that's what I did before lol

[tired meteor]

was kinda hoping it held another row down

[mild pumice]

nah 96scu so you're like a few over

but you can put a smol box in the airlock I have done it before with a 98scu mission

or you can submit a partial delivery and lose like 1/3 of the credits/rep

[tired meteor]

uh i have like 180 or more scu on there

[mild pumice]

oh sorry my brain broken yeah thay added more scu to the RAFT (my bad)

I was thinking of the old days

[tired meteor]

both are loaded

[mild pumice]

nice job

[tired meteor]

it had less then this?

thing has more ptw then a C2 they should add another row

[mild pumice]

come over to Pyro and make some real money

[tired meteor]

i was doing this cuz i need to stop by bai ship parts store

plus

im still on starter rank with ling

[mild pumice]

yeah it takes a while to rank up, I got Member in both Pyro/Stanton now

[tired meteor]

titan is really good for the first runs

last 1 scu you can trap on the ramp

[mild pumice]

CIG trolling when they made that mission 9scu

[jovial matrix]

The one mission that always gives you 66 scu is so damn annoying, just barely can't do it in my hull A

[rough haven]

@obtuse isle salvage isnt in a good place atm. Expect the Reclaimer to get a gold pass at some point.

[obtuse isle]

Thanks! Not looking at it for the short term. More looking at current functionality and if its decently soloable/small crew.

With all the crafting/construction material requirements, thinking I need to get a salvager to sustain a construction operation

[hushed elm]

Is the Teach’s special MOLE worth it over the normal?

3x Arbor MH2 Mining Laser -> 1x Helix II Mining Laser, 2x Klein-S2 Mining Laser

[spare cloud]

With the loadout insurance claims that's a comfort yes. Having a Helix already is nice.

[rough haven]

@obtuse isle currently salvage doesnt interface with constructions because all the materials gathered are 0 quality.

[hushed elm]

I think I can do the free claim and still get the upgraded stuff

[storm storm]

reclaimer mk2

[obtuse isle]

Yeah definitely, not looking at current salvage. Future planning

[tall karma]

Can't get 2SCU in the airlock?

[vapid swift]

I have a dumb question. I have a golem, and found a savrilium node, but it says its impossible to crack with 2 reiger c3 modules. How the hell do I break it in a golem

is it just sabir's or no luck?

[past fractal]

So, when it says "Impossible" it's not accounting for your modules, or gadgets. It's still worth trying. That said, you may want to learn how to use Surges instead of Reigers, and definitely carry some gadgets

[obtuse isle]

https://rockbreaker.peacefroggaming.com/

Rockbreaker app can calculate if its breakable with gadgets

[tall karma]

Trying to figure out which covalex missions reward the QDs:

stanton
Covalex: ~mission(ReputationRank) Rank - Direct ~mission(CargoGradeToken) Cargo Haul(100%)
nyx
Covalex: ~mission(ReputationRank) Rank - Direct ~mission(CargoGradeToken) Cargo Haul(100%)
pyro
Covalex: ~mission(ReputationRank) Rank - Direct ~mission(CargoGradeToken) Cargo Haul(100%)
stantonandnyx
Covalex: ~mission(ReputationRank) Rank - ~mission(CargoGradeToken) Cargo Haul(100%)
stanton
Covalex: ~mission(ReputationRank) Rank - ~mission(CargoGradeToken) Cargo Haul(100%)
pyro```

[frail cypress]

Master rank

[tall karma]

Oh damn...

[frail cypress]

also: https://scmdb.net/

[tall karma]

Yeah, thats where I got the mission names, but it doesn't really say which rep

[frail cypress]

Sure it does, see requirements tab

[hazy ridge]

why D:

The feeling is nice and heavy

and the tractor beam is insane for solos

[stray tide]

@shell cedar , hey i grinded the rep , but need a clarification from you , im not able to get the 1.8 m Mission in pyro , does it always spawn in stanton or am i missing something , same thing with other missions i only see 49 k missions in pyro

[shell cedar]

You need to be at Specific locations, just a min

its like, checkmate, patch city, pyro 1, monox

at Sr. Contractor

[stray tide]

ok a!

and the contract will be inpyroo too right?

@shell cedar

[shell cedar]

yea

[stray tide]

ok thanks a lot!

[shell cedar]

I will say i've been abandoning the mission if it has a Prowler as one of the targets, I've only had 1 out of 5 successfully dock

cutters are still annoying but I think the best way to force dock them is to tap S just before they bump the boom so you clip into them for just a second

[obsidian reef]

search up the specific modules and it will state the specific tasks that can have them. you'll see that you can only get them from master rank missions

[polar fable]

so quick question... I did a interstellar hauling mission, but one of the 2SCU construction materials boxes broke when colliding with another box and got sent into the dark dimension... can I go buy 2 SCU of construction materials and just use that to finish the quest or am i fkd?

[obsidian reef]

I think you can only turn in boxes received through the contract but you can also just partially hand in missions

[kindred falcon]

the only chassis that ship was originally supposed to have was for the apollo. apollo came out around the same time as T0 recovery and when most beds could act as respawn points, without its drone tech either (which has been confirmed to be non-priority for some time)

only reason CIG made the hermes was because the apollo chassis sales were terrible and not going to make them money for some time

its not that its a bad ship, i just hate its existence out of principle

[tropic swallow]

Thanks, I will take a look

[ivory bronze]

This makes me want to use the raft vs hermes lol

[tall karma]

No, just turn in and submit since you'll be 2 scu short. Still get paid and full rep

[dense burrow]

where can one find savrilium to mine that's prospector capable

[delicate girder]

Trying to buy RMC and the settlement says it has more than enough, I have my destination set, but when I click it nothing happens:Trying to buy RMC and the settlement says it has more than enough, I have my destination set, but when I click it nothing happens. No autoloading here maybe? If so, then why alow the setting of the destination?

[pallid seal]

Anyone know the easiest way to grind Shubin rep?

[wet moat]

what qestline do i have to lvl for big fright? Covalex, red wind or ling family?

[delicate girder]

Now that I delivered the RMC to the settlement, I can't even get the cargo elevator to come up with or without the SCUs.

Are there special ways to get cargo elevators in settlements working? Does it ever work in 4.8?

I now have 500k+ of RMC setting there in 16 SCU containers which I can't get out. Any ideas?

My SCUs of RMC stored at the settlement will still be there if I server hop right?

[pearl juniper]

No auto load unless your ship is stored in a hangar

[pearl juniper]

Yes

[hasty lintel]

What company Rep should I be leveling up to get those large SCU cargo missions?

Like the ones where a Hull C is needed?

[jovial matrix]

Definitely not, I have a hard time getting my character through the door when the ladder's open lol

[delicate girder]

Of course. Thanks

[past fractal]

Hull C specific missions were removed with 4.8. All of the contractors currently go up to large hauls except covalex, which I believe caps out at medium

[hasty lintel]

WHY

[past fractal]

Because the Hull C is completely fucking broken and has been for a while? Why keep missions in that can only realistically be completed by a ship that has less than a 5% chance to work at all?

For the last 2-3 patches, the Hull C would condense all autoloaded cargo onto one spindle, overlapping itself multiple times, could not deliver properly because of it, and in nearly every single case, you couldn't do the missions at all. It makes no sense to have that be the endgame of a loop.

On top of that, the autoloading feature of the Hull C is obsolete and not going to be fixed, it's going to be replaced with a whole new system that is still in development

[kindred falcon]

the worst part of cargo right now is that the boxes, even same size/materials are internally marked for delivery to a specific location, and we have no way of seeing it unless it is in the cargo elevator and we check it box by box

ive got an issue council open about it cause i slapped a bunch of 8 scu boxes into the elevator from a covalex mission, sent it down, went to pull the elevator back up and ended up with a 32 scu box instead of 4 8-scu boxes
https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-208564

[vapid axle]

the worst part for me is that i get one pull on an elevator and it will crash the next time i try to raise it - anyone else having this issue?

[past fractal]

Haven't run into that one yet myself

[kindred falcon]

ive not had that

ive had the one where i go to pull it up and it just transfers it into my personal inventory instead of up on the elevator

but not a full blown crash

[vapid axle]

for clarity i don't mean the game crashes, the elevator just never comes up and anything i had moved over ends up in my inventory

exactly erebos

[kindred falcon]

maaaaaaaan, the one time i dont have my crew in my mole

[past fractal]

Yeah, 88k is a minimum of 2 lasers lol

[royal hamlet]

I'm repping Covalex from Senior to Master. If I partially complete a senior contract (around 25%+), do I get only 25% rep? Or is it more? I'm wondering if continuing to stack 4 Experienced contracts vs 2-3 partial Senior ones, is better.

[past fractal]

Not sure how the rep works for that, I've never bothered paying attention to it. Last I heard (which was months ago) rep is full even for partials as long as you can turn it in, which I believe is at least 50%

[kindred falcon]

maaaan wheres all the miners in sc when you need them lmfao

[past fractal]

Eating homemade curry lol. For most players it's between 7pm and 5am

[simple river]

Ever since I started first sending the elevator down empty then back up (so its mine not a previous player's) I havent had this issue. Maybe its coincidence but maybe worth a try for you?

[shell cedar]

Dont try to shoot one of your own doors open while a ship is docking for refueling lol

the docked ship sees that as being attacked and fails the mission

[delicate girder]

Are Teach's rental ships based on the ships they sell so that you might get better components in some of the rentals?

[obsidian reef]

Yes

[keen garden]

Yes, but... teaches "better" components aren't often that much better, if at all

it's particularly weird on salvage ships, in some cases replacing tractor beams for additional salvage heads that provide no benefit

[rare abyss]

So! i try to do stanton 500k salvage mission which i should find competition components
I search freelancer max as bounty and when i look in side it's all garbage not competition gears.

is that means i should looking competition components from pyro contest zone or olp in stanton?

[near zodiac]

Should i focus more to collect and sell cmat or rmc