#industrial-professions

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solar bay
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Hey guys im trying out asteroid mining, im alr refining my stuff but where should i sell it once its done refining?

verbal tangle
spare cloud
random patrol
spare cloud
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Pay attention to max inventory on UEX (not real time inventory, that's not true)

solar bay
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Ok tysm i was looking up sc trade tools cs thats what i used back in 2023 but im assuming thats outdated as hell?

random patrol
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You can check both

spare cloud
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About as good as UEX.

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Both have inaccuracies

verbal tangle
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sc trade tools is better for building long routes, UEX is better for individual sales in my experience, both arent perfect

random patrol
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UEX shows you the last time the location was updated also

spare cloud
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Without telling you the region tho

random patrol
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<---UEX datarunner 😉

verbal tangle
random patrol
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When im bored I do kekw

verbal tangle
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touche 🤣

pearl juniper
spare cloud
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That doesn't make the statement wrong kekw

pearl juniper
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No, just pointing out that they have THE SAME inaccuracies

random patrol
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Potato potatoe

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TBH the data would be accurate if more players reported it.

solar bay
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Where should i mine to get the most valuable ores? I mainly want to do asteroid mining and whatever makes most money lol

keen garden
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There really isn’t a specific place for the highest quality, highest quality is where the most profit comes from

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But, quant is valuable regardless of quality, and it’s only found in Stanton

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So…. Odds are best in Stanton for finding rocks of high value

crystal siren
# solar bay Where should i mine to get the most valuable ores? I mainly want to do asteroid ...

My Org built an app specifically for trying to find the best place to mine specific ores. The ore finder in the Strata app takes the spawn density of a given location and the spawn rate or an ore and ranks mining locations by abundance. So if you're looking for the best place to mine a specific type of rock, the ore finder on Strata will show you. https://strata.celd.space/orefinder Don't forget Pyro has a flat quality bonus of 5 to 10 %. So if the abundance score is the same between Stanton or Pyro locations for a given rock type, chances are you'll get higher quality for the same amount of time investment in Pyro.

solar bay
solar bay
crystal siren
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In practice, I've found mixed results trying to find higher quality in pyro. I think quality bump is not as pronounced as the patch notes seem to make it sound, but it is there. The baseline math has the multiplier in it. The probability of a given quality for any specific rock starts slightly higher everywhere in pyro.

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Some places with higher density modifiers just give you more chances to roll higher quality rocks. Like MIC-L1 That Lagrange point has 10x the rock density of anywhere else in the game. So if an ore spawns there, chances are you're probably gonna find higher quality there just because there's more chances for it to spawn.

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That's what the abundance score on strata tries to quantify and compare.

keen garden
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I don’t know if there’s actually enough rocks to scan to get real results… and here’s why:

rock spawns are tied to the shard. What I mean is, if you find a 976 iron rock on shard us east 050, directly north of a poi 60km out, you can return to that same rock an hour or so later and it will be there again. For scan data to actually be effective at determining average quality, a location (moon surface, space poi, etc) would need to be scanned pretty thoroughly across all shards/regions, not just a couple random shards being scanned by 2-3 people one evening, even regolith wasn’t really collecting enough data to account for the random chance of the distribution being lower than avg on the shards that were scanned by players simply by chance, or the possibility of overlap between player scans because of how more likely it is for a player to start at a PoI rather than anywhere random

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Or players focusing on a specific material and driving up its % because they weren’t submitting scans for raw ice

crystal siren
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The math confirms what @keen garden says and my empirical surveys corroborate. Any given spawn location is shard specific for rock locations and quality is rolled at spawn time. So with the latest changes since 4.7 for mining, there's not a way to map to specific rock spawns. And the quality isn't consistent because it's rolled every time they spawn.

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Any given location has a number of spawn slots, and any of the rocks that are in the spawn pool for that location could spawn in any one of those slots.

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Which is why the best thing we can show on strata is a comparison of the location density modifier and the individual ore spawn percentage.

keen garden
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That’s not to say that I think these efforts are worthless, I think it’s awesome to collect data and have it on hand for some context, it’s just I’m not sure it’s good enough to definitively say x is better than y at producing high quality materials

crystal siren
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You're right. The only thing we can say definitively is based on the game math. We just don't have enough people doing surveys and the areas to observe are too large to get a sample size good enough with the changes in spawn mechanics.

keen garden
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That said..

crystal siren
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Which I'm honestly in favor of. It means you have to hunt for good quality, even with a tool that can tell you where you're most likely to find a given ore. 🙂

keen garden
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Pyro is usually less populated, and usually has higher fps, which usually means you can scan more rocks per hour

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More rocks per hour = more jackpots per hour

crystal siren
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But it also means in the current state of the game, what they talk about, about miners knowing where to find good quality, is kind of BS. Now maybe that'll change when Genesis comes out, but right now it's not the case.

keen garden
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Yea… and yet every time I take the org out mining i magically find nothing but quant as if I have some kind of special ability

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It’s just luck

crystal siren
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Ha. Quantum vibe mining huh?

keen garden
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I see a 3170 rock and go crack it

crystal siren
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If you do a lot of group mining sessions, We would be very interested in your feedback on the newest feature we put in the Strata app for group mining sessions.

keen garden
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I’ll throw it in our team chat and give it a shot

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We’ve been throwing around ideas for including it in our own solution, but anything that exists is more useful than a thing that doesn’t exist yet

crystal siren
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We built a system to try and handle distribution of materials and share split. It's certainly not in its final form right now. But it keeps track of all the work orders people refine and so it knows what size boxes of which or of which quality are produced. And based on what people want out of the session, it creates a trade list to try and get people close to an even split on materials. It sounds a little clunky, but it works.

keen garden
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Yea. We loved regolith for that, just keeping track of who was there is huge, but then tracking output at the end

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The quality values really threw a wrench in things

crystal siren
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yes they do..

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I've thought a 0 through 10 quality scale would have made inventory, refining, and everything a lot more manageable and still given them a ton of variety in craftable items.

crystal siren
keen garden
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Technically we’re getting that in 4.8 I guess

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Refinery orders may get down to 2 pages rather than 10-15

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They’re introducing per material quality bands

crystal siren
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oh cool i hadnt heard that

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well its not in the ptu files yet

keen garden
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So all 700-799 iron for example would get set to 707

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Hmm… if it’s not in the files yet, this might have been a dev post somewhere

crystal siren
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yeah that would be better

limpid sluice
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Pretty sure the change is already in, from what ive been seeing anyway

whole fable
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Like how does it track it?

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It is actually real time information?

crystal siren
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There are various techniques to look at the game files. We use those. Real time? No, but updated with every patch is as real time as it can be.

distant forge
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Anyone know if the ferron exchange refining process is still broken to be the same as dinyx solution but faster time?

crystal siren
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in 4.7.2 it is still the same

distant forge
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So it's still the go to for refining and isn't fixed?

crystal siren
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ferron, dinx and pyrometric chromaliysis all produce the same yield.

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pyro.. and ferron are the same speed, dinyx is a little slower

distant forge
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Yea but the time it takes was broken to be super quick

crystal siren
distant forge
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That was in 4.7

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Not sure if it was patched

crystal siren
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i havent verified if that changed in ptu yet. but still the same in 4.7.2 as it was in all 4.7

bleak mesa
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Anyone want to crew up for mining?

silk flame
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  • spend 1.5Mil in laranite
  • try to sell it but station only has limited demand
  • sell a single 16SCU crate (out of 12) for 150K and get to my ship
  • there's no crates on the ships. All the cargo is gone
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is this a known bug? Is there some way I can salvage the situation?

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uh but my credits seem correct, like if I sold the whole cargo. I'm even more confused.. but not displeased 😆

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this lovely game is a trip

keen garden
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🤔

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No I haven’t had boxes on my ship disappear when stored

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But also I don’t sell from grid

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I think that’s a common issue

silk flame
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it seems to have ignored my "sell only one crate" despite telling me I had just earned 150K, instead I got back the full 1.8Mil or so

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since I'm a masochist, I'm going to try another run to another station with demand (this one is maxed out)

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I cannot much stand manual crate handlings so it's autoloading for me

covert dome
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Sounds like you got the auto load stack bug

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where the entire contents got stacked into one square

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seen that happen and when you go to pull it off it like explodes out

pearl juniper
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oh that's an annoying one. Has happened on every mining order I have loaded recently.

crystal siren
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There was a bug a while back where boxes would disappear from your cargo grid when the ship was stored, and if you stored it again and pulled it back up, they would reappear.

karmic sleet
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Does the ROC default mining head do surface gems ok, or does it overload them real fast? I've been trying the GEO, and I think it's better in every way except for the tiny cargo capacity, so I wanna try a ROC.

mild pumice
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Default head was fine for everything I mined, I'm a couple of patches out of date but I don't think anything has changed with the Roc

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It doesn't do hand mining like the Geo though if that's what you mean.

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Feynmaline was what I was mining in Pyro

keen garden
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ROC will happily suck the gems up tho

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We use a roc ds on larger org ops so that we have less box swapping on geos

ionic elm
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Can someone explain to me why the Commodities terminal says that Corundum is out of stock and it says it is currently offering 3742/scu but then they only kist 1833 when I try to sell 1scu?

native aurora
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im having a similar issue. im trying to sell scrap and its telling me that the shop is at max inventory but on the other side of the screen it says its only at medium inventory

solar bay
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Bro can prospectors even mine quantanium? I’ve found like 6 asteroids and all of em say impossible

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But actual impossible not just it says impossible but its possible

solar bay
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Could anyone help me? Im up to 10 asteroids now all impossible

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I bought rieger C-3s and sabirs and nothing works every quantanium asteroid appears as impossible

maiden tendon
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Which system is best for salvage?

keen garden
pearl juniper
crystal siren
crystal siren
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they like to talk about player choice, but they seem to be aggressively "balancing" all choice out of the game. 😛 i guess the choice is, which predefined path do you want to be forced down?

pearl juniper
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sorry what? You can't mine every rock with a prospector = there's no choice in the game?

glossy cloud
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I

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Hi I purchased some hephaestanite at Badjaling point and it says it's in the resource container. How do I get it into my ship . I can see it when at commodity but cant find it in the cargo lift

keen garden
keen garden
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but also if you want to mine bigger stuff in a prospector, make friends

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3 people in hofstead prospectors can break a lot of rocks

solar bay
solar bay
quasi quiver
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anyone know any good trade routes?

native aurora
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I just use SC trades for that stuff

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@quasi quiver

quasi quiver
native aurora
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I don't know, for what I use it for it does fine. For what you need maybe not

pearl juniper
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There is a huge variety of places to mine, and the average rock size varies by location. If you can't find something prospector sized where you are, choose a different location

frail cypress
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Is the Hull-C less buggy than it was a year ago?

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Great..so just buy an ironclad i guess

native aurora
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I can't wait to test the ironclad out. I'd love for it to be a good option for solo play to add to my c2 and hull b

keen garden
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Though it could be resolved by rock clusters having more rocks and the rocks they have being more varied, like what we had in 4.0 through 4.6

crystal siren
# pearl juniper There is a huge variety of places to mine, and the average rock size varies by l...

Yeah, CIG has told us they specifically want to create tracks for hand mining and ship mining. And when you look at the data and the game files and the spawn rates of locations, they have definitely done so. The minimum scale value, which defines how small a rock can spawn in a given location, is lower for surface mineables than it is for space mineables. Effectively guaranteeing there's gonna be a higher percentage of bigger rocks in space with a higher mass floor. Not excluding the possibility of big rocks spawning on planet surfaces, just increasing the chance that smaller rocks spawn there too.

solar bay
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Best refining method for bexalite?

crystal siren
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best 'method' depends on yield/speed/cost tradeoff

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Pyrometric Chromalysis and Ferron Exchange are identical yield and speed at the moment in LIVE, ferron is a little cheaper.

pearl juniper
remote steppe
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Is there an annoying delay when using ATLS before it grabs the crate?
I used to click and instantly swing around since it was grabbing stuff instantly.
Now there's sometimes half a second delay and I end up grabbing a wrong thing.
First time using ATLS since 4.7 was released.

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It also occasionally cancels placement on its own or even drops the crate.
And same with placement, the response can be delayed for half a second. Ugh.
Could be a server issue, but I swear I've never seen ATLS behave so annoyingly.

native aurora
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I'm thinking server problem cause I haven't had any of those issues with it but I am only one person so grain of salt and all that

remote steppe
crystal siren
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fwiw, i have experienced the same things Iggy. with every patch i find the atls less and less usable.. although they did make it walk faster recently, which is nice

native aurora
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Tbf, yeah I only use the damn thing to load my c2, and that's a very specific situation so mine could be acting goofy as well and I'm just not using it in a way that would present an issue

remote steppe
# crystal siren fwiw, i have experienced the same things Iggy. with every patch i find the atls ...

Was it before or after 4.7? It was working fine for me in 4.6 and it's the first time I tried it since then. (dang, or was it 4.5 when I used ATLS a lot the last time, now I can't recall)
In older builds had issues like dying to ATLS or hangar despawning when using it, but that was fixed a while ago.

I never really had problems operating ATLS.
The only thing I wish it could do is to remember the holo rotation of the previous item and apply the same rotation if the next items is of the same type.
Like stacking long things in certain orientation and only having to rotate the first one.

native aurora
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The biggest issue I have with it is when I call it up in a cargo elevator, it's stuck in the floor half the time and I have to maxlift it out, which works about a 3rd of the time

remote steppe
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And I actually looked at screenshots, and apparently I did some 4.7.0 ATLS activities. So if there's delay bug, then it came in 4.7.1 or 2

native aurora
solar bay
pearl juniper
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yield

solar bay
pearl juniper
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all of the refineries have +'s and -'s on the yield of various materials

solar bay
pearl juniper
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it's not something I usually worry about. Flying all over the place to get a few extra % probably isn't worth it

scarlet glade
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is trading any good atm ? and if so, what to trade and where can i find it

tame aspen
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Salvaged components cannot be sold profitably right? I got 96 uec for S3s…

crystal siren
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until 4.8

keen garden
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eh, even then you’re still gonna want base quality stuff to throw around

crimson mantle
fallen badgeBOT
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SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

spare cloud
crimson mantle
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Hey, it's as up to date as anything else! And we've cranked quite a few new features lately, notably the /analytics page!
Always happy to get feedback 🙂

crystal siren
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I for one say what's wrong with a little self promotion? If somebody's making a tool that's so useful for the community and giving it to us, promote away, buddy.

frank grove
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So, if a cargo haul mission bugs out and just won't spawn the items, is there nothing to do but relog to clear the mission? I'd rather not take rep hits over bugs

native aurora
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what are good gadgets for the prospector?

crystal siren
past fractal
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Gadgets vary with what you're mining. High resistance? Use a Sabir. Need a good break? Try OptiMax. Rock unstable? Use a BoreMax. Need more window? Use a Waveshift.

Every gadget does something different. The only actually bad gadget is the Okunis. Sure, you'll break faster, but it'll be a mess afterwards

native aurora
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well im about o get a prospector and i already bought a helix for it but im ill just sort some gadgets later if most are good. im not sure ill even care for ship mining so i dont wanna try and juggle several different gadgets

frail cypress
past fractal
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I just did a Hull C salvage contract with a Hull B and a MOTH; took me all day basically since I was solo, but after selling everything on the spindles, scraping the whole thing, and then scrapping it, after refinery costs, fuel, even buying processed food to take on the return trip to where the contract was, I walked away with about 7.2 mil.

I also discovered the Hermes is an absolutely god-awful ship logistically, and I can't wait to replace it at DefenseCon

jovial matrix
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What was so bad about the hermes?

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Also, scraping a hull C solo in a MOTH sounds awful

past fractal
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That part wasn't so bad.

The whole 'gimmick' of the Hermes is the onboard tractor beam. You slide it back and forth along a rail to bring in boxes and organize them.

  • The tractor loses grip of the box when it slides up and down the rail.
  • The doorway is so narrow that without that, you're fiddling the boxes through the door, if they're small enough, and if their not, well, tough luck.
  • The room visibility angles as it starts to fill up is terrible
  • Once you're about half full, you have to go down, drop the box, go back, turn around, grab the box, then continue stacking
  • And if that wasn't bad enough, now do it all in reverse to get stuff out.
  • Oh, or you could bypass all that and literally walk every box into the ship with a MaxLift.
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Whoever designed this flea-bitten, forsaken wretch of a ship, I'm quite certain was thinking "crane game" and instead somehow managed to make even that piss-poor nightmare of a logistician into something even worse.

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Oh, and did I forget to mention, since it's a ship tractor, fair warning, you need to turn off your radar and hope the tractor isn't staring at a sea of various bold white text names and distances.

jovial matrix
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damn

past fractal
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I've literally never seen a ship this badly designed, not in any game, ever.

I can't even fathom what the dev who made this thing was thinking

spare cloud
cerulean dove
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Does anyone know if the Pitman laser can be removed & replaced with a higher quality one in 4.8? I really don't want to install the whole PTU just to check this one thing

spare cloud
cerulean dove
maiden iris
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How do I get one of the blue cubes to spawn to pickup my commodities on hull C after I sell from terminal. Hailing cargo does nothing

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When selling I get a transaction failed message.

spare cloud
maiden iris
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The message kinda reads like the hull c needs to be in the unloading cube before you can push sell button on commodity terminal

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I was trying to sell at baijini point

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Distilled spirts I picked up from salvage contract

spare cloud
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Is it your regeneration point ?

maiden iris
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I don’t think so

spare cloud
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If it is, try resetting it to PR.

maiden iris
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Maybe I need to sell qty 1 to get past failed transaction bug. It seems to be the same message as previous bulk sell message bug

native aurora
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is there a way to put mole ore bags on the prospector? or get larger ones for it some other way?

crystal siren
native aurora
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oh okay. im assuming in the event i have to claim it ill have to do that all over again?

crystal siren
native aurora
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copy, thanks

maiden iris
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buying works, but selling gives failed transaction

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maiden iris
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Just did the pickup loop and it works, def the sell is bugged, it seems like the same way 4.7 bugged general selling

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also seems to be a bug with the hotkey for undock not triggering

maiden iris
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ingame chat confirmed hull C auto selling is not in the game currently

native aurora
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what should i target to mine in the prospector for profits? im not doing crafting just yet so i just wanna try and make some coin with this if i can

mossy pumice
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With these quality in ores now, and with this most likely changing with the quality has anyone read/seen if our quality will carry over?

bronze dirge
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Hello, I have a Hull B. Will Planetary or Stellar Hauling make me more?

maiden iris
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per hour planetary

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hull b can make a lot on salvage contracts

bronze dirge
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Thanks!
Salvage??

maiden iris
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just have to loot and sell

bronze dirge
maiden iris
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goto a hurston larage point, or hurston planet and look for salvage contracts on 3rd rep rank (gotta rank up to 3rd to get the hull c to spawn)

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the contract will say like salvage - Hull C - 10000 fee

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you will get about 4.5 million per hull-b load

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titanium sell price * 512 sku

bronze dirge
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Oh sweet

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Thank you so much!

native aurora
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hull b is great for commodities as well

bronze dirge
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Are there any good 3p tools for commodity trading? I didn’t see a way to track it in game, but I haven’t looked that hard yet

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Ope, found one. Thanks!

native aurora
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yeah it does take some capital to start

maiden iris
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I remember your pic

bronze dirge
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I started a fresh account because I’m crazy and hate money.

maiden iris
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Oh very cool

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Enjoy !

bronze dirge
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I need to find a good cash sink for when someone inevitably dumps a billion on me that I didn’t earn

maiden iris
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Your alt account lol

bronze dirge
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Oh good call lol

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I’ll take a T though. Buy me that UEX\Wikelo Idris with money I didnt want lmao

native aurora
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shit, you let me know if you get a bil you dont wanna mess with

bronze dirge
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Rainy day fund lol.

maiden iris
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Do you enjoy the hull b

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Seems like the perfect ship

native aurora
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its almost prefect. i still use my c2 more but i do like the hull b. if it would spawn in a large hangar every time it would be awesome

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it bothers me that i have to use the elevator 4 times to load it

maiden iris
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C2 gives me nightmares

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Getting that top row of boxes always a struggle

native aurora
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yeah i hear that a lot. proper positioning and an atls makes it super fast and super easy, but you have to setup right

maiden iris
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Ya in space that’s a tall order lol

native aurora
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in space the hull b wins without question. you can actually use the tractor beams and its so great. i need to get my rank up so i can get those hull c contracts so i dont have to do commodities as much

maiden iris
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It’s super nice. It is commodity trading but without the costs and space pickup is a nice gameplay loop

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Much more interesting than hangar loading

bronze dirge
# maiden iris Do you enjoy the hull b

It’s pretty fun so far! I’m still learning its quirks. I think I’m going to pick up an Atlas since it can be stashed on the elevator. I like its size and cargo layout a lot.

I’m debating stripping the guns and missiles, but I don’t think there will be any gain to doing so

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Honestly, I like it enough that I might NOT CCU into the ironclad, but we will see where I am and what kind of deals ddc has in store

maiden iris
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It does seem to be weight based

bronze dirge
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Possibly? It’s definitely maneuverable when collapsed

native aurora
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it definitely isnt with a full load lol

maiden iris
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A fully loaded hull c takes like 10km to slow down / stop lol

native aurora
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hull b full isnt that bad but its not great. vtol is required from me to get it out of a hangar

bronze dirge
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Better than the caterpillar!

native aurora
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and jumps suck. im gonna focus on rep and try those hull c contracts out. i might enjoy the hull b better for that

bronze dirge
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Honestly that sounds cheddar and more in line with my play style too.

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I like the living off my ship between jobs vibe. If I’m scavenging cargo off wrecks, I’m in the field longer and relying on being well supplied and sneaky. More fun I think

native aurora
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i love commodities but im tired of the bugs. ive lost 5 mil to elevators a few times

bronze dirge
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Ooof

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I need to read up on the refueling gameplay they’re working on, it seems like it could be an interesting niche as well.

maiden iris
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Maybe we’ll get some medical contracts and refueling ones too

bronze dirge
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One could hope. When I was all bright eyed and bushy tailed I wanted to be a space medic.

I did not think that just meant group healer somehow

jagged verge
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does anyone know any orgs that sell ores?

keen garden
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like, unrefined still in the bags?

jagged verge
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either ore

keen garden
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just find sellers on market and find their org

spare cloud
native aurora
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@maiden irisi got to rank 3 and this is pretty cool with the hull b. i will say its sort of a pain cause everyone in stanton is full on titanium so needing to jump to pyro kinda lame but still. dont have all the risk i normally do

maiden iris
native aurora
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oh yeah they at max

maiden iris
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Ah guess more people doing it than when I did

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Still a pyro jump for 4.6 mil profit worth

keen garden
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Can say we were out salvaging last night and nearly every station we were doing salvage at had a herc running around picking up boxes from hull c’s

bronze dirge
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grinding up my salvaging now. Im mostly finding iron and nitrogen

native aurora
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not a bug. a feature at this point

maiden iris
keen garden
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Supply and demand

maiden iris
native aurora
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i sold all the nitro and iron first cause those were easy to find a seller not a cap, but the titanium is more difficult

maiden iris
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I took a 20 mil titanium haul into pyro on my hull c and got blown up by PKers lol

native aurora
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i avoid the tdd as much as i can

maiden iris
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TDD > 6 wormholes

native aurora
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on paper. but id still rather not go to tdd. i usually dont have to try this many jumps and orison was the only one showing to buy titanium. im at starlight now so we'll see is sc trades is wrong about this place or not

maiden iris
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Orison TDD is a fun side quest. Pyro has so many titanium buyers

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The first station by the gateway is always sold out for buying power

bronze dirge
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well, when Im finding anything. So far its mostly been fighters, and the occasional c2

maiden iris
native aurora
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i got hull c first try, lol

bronze dirge
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I dont have the rank for hull c contracts yet

maiden iris
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They only spawn hull C at certain Lagrange points

native aurora
maiden iris
bronze dirge
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Thats what I've been doing

native aurora
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then focus on the ones with a hull c for the loot

native aurora
maiden iris
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The longest part of that grind is dealing with the rmcmaterials and selling it. But if it’s fun then worth

bronze dirge
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blw up the mission ship, ping th radar for anything that might have cargo, investigate, repeat

native aurora
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success! starlight has plenty of room. i still have half a load back in stanton. now i just need the jumps to work the first time...

keen garden
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Jumps always work flawlessly for me

native aurora
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oh sure, rub it in

keen garden
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Except when they don’t

native aurora
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this person

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joker

keen garden
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The thing I’ve noticed about mining the Aaron halo is I tend to find quant worth cracking far more often than I find high quality materials

native aurora
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yep

keen garden
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And because it’s quality is irrelevant, it’s almost always worth cracking

native aurora
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i got a bunch of beryl there yesterday to try out my prospector

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i found a bunch of quantanium there also but i couldnt crack it

keen garden
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It can often be solo cracked in a mole but it’s still a lot of effort, best to have a buddy

native aurora
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i just have a prospector no mole yet

bronze dirge
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sweet, fou nd my first hull C, full of iron and just floating

native aurora
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this first one i found had iron, titanium and nitrogen

bronze dirge
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nice

native aurora
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heading out with the last load now

bronze dirge
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my B is all full up

native aurora
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looking at about 9 mil total for all of it

bronze dirge
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nice

native aurora
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i was gonna upgrade this hull b into a moth but i might have to just get another hull b on the grey market for that. need to keep this thing, lol

bronze dirge
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weird, I cant hail terra gateway

native aurora
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the game just works

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no bugs

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flawless

bronze dirge
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now that I complazinmed I can lol

native aurora
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squeaky wheel and all that

maiden iris
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like prob 9 out of 10 times ill get at least 500 sku of titanium

native aurora
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this one had over 700

bronze dirge
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Nice. I have a mixed load of mostly iron, but I have a little titanium and nitrogen Imt rying to sell before I go back out hunting. Made about 1.1m so not to bad for my first outing

maiden iris
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ive been filling my hull C up, just grabbing titanium off each salvage

bronze dirge
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Im not that far along yet lol

maiden iris
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great way to get a 40 mil cargo load to blow up on you and cry

native aurora
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i was gonna get a hull c but everyone tells me its buggy as hell

maiden iris
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the gameplay with it for selling titanium from hull c is not buggy

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because you just use the external freight elevators, bypassing any bugs

native aurora
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then i might grab one since its buyable in game

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i like not having to unload the hull b though, thats really nice

maiden iris
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ya you have to manually do it all 😭

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auto unloading is 100% broken, not even part of the game right now

native aurora
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i might stay on hull b then

maiden iris
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for Hull C

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auto loading works on hull c, but that don't help for salvage loop

native aurora
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yeah its nice to be able to land on the hangar pad, go in and sell and get it auto unloaded without having to pay the fee or deal with a timer

maiden iris
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if you want way more risky play (pirate terrotory for external freight elevators on pyro ) hullC is great fun with a friend or 2

bronze dirge
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well thats no good. I cant refuel

native aurora
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well sure

maiden iris
bronze dirge
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says 'no service; but I can repair

maiden iris
#

where?

bronze dirge
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terra gateway.

maiden iris
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Is it not in the game yet there ?

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I think that’s a new station

bronze dirge
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The station is present, I just sold all my iron there. But I cant refuel to leave

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I can repair, refuel hyrogen. Not qt FUEL

maiden iris
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Does it have the fuel service on the icons of services it provides

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Oh weird

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I hope the refueling bug from a month ago isn’t back

bronze dirge
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thats what I am afraid of

maiden iris
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Had to reclaim all my ships for a week lol

bronze dirge
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gonna try to store and resummon my ship

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I cant close the spindle either, but that might have to do wi th the cargo on th racks

maiden iris
#

there is a bug with the qt guage not updating

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so its showing 14% qt fuel, but its actually at 100%

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then once you start a new QT it updates to 100%

bronze dirge
#

I cant even enable a jump :/

maiden iris
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ah bummer not that bug then

bronze dirge
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gonna try a short jump I guess

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phew. Just had to manually re-route and it all updated

maiden iris
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Oh nice

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Qt unable to route is the most common bug I think I get

native aurora
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can you fit alot a scu per trip?

maiden iris
native aurora
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oh okay thats better then

maiden iris
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They gotta be like 10-20k sku or more elevators

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They are so big

native aurora
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copy

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ill probly get up to 30 mil or so before i buy one. i dont wanna eat all my money but im at 19 now so im gonna probly try it

maiden iris
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It’s super fun gameplay. It feels like you are a space semi truck.

native aurora
#

hell i already feel that wat tith the hull b. but if that works im not opposed to trying it

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how do you sort which stations have one of those elevators?

maiden iris
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On the uex website it has a cargo icon

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Under the sell tab for the commodity

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Then Trying to find them when you are at the station is a fun side quest

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Pro tip. Don’t go searching with a fully loaded hull c.

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The movement is so horrible fully loaded it will take an hour to find it

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You’ll be in pyro to sell

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No elevators for it in Stanton that buy titanium

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One of the stations that have the contested zones or megimi refueling or gaslight

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It’s the stations that are next to the major planets. Like baijini point, seraphim, Everest harbor etc.

native aurora
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yeah i just looked it up. im not sure i wanna make a fully loaded jump in a hull c...

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that sounds nerve racking

maiden iris
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Having a crew is best way

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Since it caps at 40 million payout still alot to share

covert dome
#

i bought a hull c and next patch the game ate it

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was real sad

maiden iris
#

It’s a super fun ship. There is a lot of unique content that just exists for that ship

covert dome
#

i hated the autoload and autounload and how buggy it was

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but i never used it with external elevators

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i had the loaner hull b from subscriber and that was easy to unload on externals so i imagine hullc would be the same

native aurora
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i made 9.5 mil off that one hull c.

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so even if i dont get the bigger ship ill be fine i think

maiden iris
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Yeah it’s not really a money question. Just a different way to spend the time

sleek bridge
#

Whats the best mineral to mine and sell for crafting? 🙂

keen garden
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Iron/heph for quantity

sleek bridge
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What quality should I mine?

sleek bridge
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Thanks

keen garden
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By for quantity, I mean it’ll sell easily even at lower values like 750

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Because all ballistics need them

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So you can collect more of it rather than holding out for 900+ stuff

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There’s also common materials for energy weapons

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All grade a military next patch will take stileron and borase

native aurora
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is there a trick to getting to the aaron halo? i made it just fine yesterday but not having much luck today?

keen garden
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Yes, there’s an easy foolproof way, and then the normal way

native aurora
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and that would be?

keen garden
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Sorry, got pulled away 😆

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I think it’s selo station? The wikelo station by crusader

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It’s inside the Aaron halo

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#2, use that station as a guide for how far from the crusader orbit line to go before you stop

native aurora
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oh okay cool. yesterday it took one jump and ive been at this for 25 mins with nothing, lol

keen garden
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It’s a relatively narrow band, narrower than some videos make it feel like, but it goes all the way around

native aurora
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im gonna try from arccrop to hurston one more time then ill go try selo station

keen garden
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I like to start from cru-l4 or cru-l5, shortest jump distance

native aurora
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made it, lol. i stopped a little earlier this time

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so i picked up a sabir yesterday. i have to get out and put it on the rock right? will i get it back or is it a one time deal?

keen garden
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You can get it back, if you don’t break it

native aurora
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im gonna try and find a video cause this is kinda confusing

keen garden
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It’s much easier to learn how to use them on a surface

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In Eva there’s a lot of motion to deal with

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And it’s harder to actually attach it

native aurora
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yeah it was hard to adjust

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and i lost it

tired inlet
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Asteroids keep eating my gadgets too. At least we arent alone

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Often the place animation ends up with it inside the surface

bronze dirge
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woo unlocked hull C salvage!

maiden iris
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Fun!

bronze dirge
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I assume I have to complete some from time to time to keep my rep up?

maiden iris
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I don’t think rep decays

bronze dirge
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sweet. Im not getting to many hull c contracts. I've moved th rough my third cycle of them

maiden iris
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Yea it’s like one in 7-8

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They only spawn at certain laranges tho

bronze dirge
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oooh okay. Thats not to bad. 2-3m in cargo each

maiden iris
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No way. Hull c has 10m+ in cargo each

bronze dirge
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right, but I cant carry all of it!

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yet. One more good run and I can buy my own hull c

maiden iris
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Not without a hull c :)

maiden iris
wary lantern
#

is it just me or do hand mining deposits just not want to be mined by the hand laser

maiden iris
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So 5.6mil per c2 trip

wary lantern
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makes mining off your crimestat really fucking annoying

bronze dirge
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I've been cherry picking titanium and usually filling my hull b

wary lantern
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like how am i supposed to speed this up when none of the deposits are small enough for the multitool

maiden iris
bronze dirge
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last time I wnet to jail, I took a nap and left it logged in. Seemed to work

maiden iris
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You won’t see minable rocks till you much deeper in the cave

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Once I had to goto like floor 12 before I had any

maiden iris
bronze dirge
#

fair

wary lantern
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oh and there's invbisible walls everywhere that get you stuck

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awesome

long grail
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If I buy Copper

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What quality is that?

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0 or 500?

maiden iris
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0

long grail
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Swear on mama@maiden iris

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Anyone know if it is possible to reliably get 0Q gems? Not to reroll but actually 0Q to craft with for minimum quality, funny stuff?

jovial matrix
wary lantern
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you scan the rock, it has an outline if you can mine it

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you do it just like a space mining laser

jovial matrix
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yeah

wary lantern
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yeah

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these rocks are 2big

long grail
#

Show

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Shift+windows+S

wary lantern
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server error

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oh it just ended

long grail
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Hophop

jovial matrix
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Server error would explain it lol

wary lantern
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there were smaller ones i could mine fine

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these ones won't even show an outline

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i can hear it scan like any other rock and then it stops, i max power the laser and nothing happens

jovial matrix
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Could you send a screenshot?

long grail
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You know what: shift+win+s does right?

wary lantern
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i don't have image perms

long grail
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)_)

jovial matrix
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Dm it to me then

long grail
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Get gyazo or sth. That gives you a link

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Ffs

native aurora
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im gonna get my own hull c tomorrow probly but that will be reserved for when my buddies are on. the hull b probly still get used solo

bronze dirge
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I need one more run, this last hull c was just iron and nitrogen. But I think that will have made it an eventful day

maiden iris
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It’s fun gameplay

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Yall making me want to do it

bronze dirge
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Feels like Im just some schmo with a space job that isnt kill kill kill.
Exactly what I was looking for

keen garden
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not a lot there, and who knows if someone else has been there

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just find gems on the surface clusters

#

had another good night of quant mining in the aaron halo

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it goes in spurts, spent like 45 min finding nothing, then i couldn't crack quant fast enough to keep 2 prospectors busy running it to the station

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biggest crack was an 80k, 90% quant

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not the biggest rock we've seen since 4.7, but the largest i've cracked. didn't take too much, just ran 2 hofsteads with reiger/focus/torrent/torrent, and a helix with 1 reiger, + a prospector with focus hofstead, 2 sabir and a bormax

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could make it move with just the mole if i popped a surge + stampede, but surges wouldn't have lasted. since we had a hofstead on hand, we just did that to make it easy

wary lantern
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do you mine the deposit and then go straight back or is there another tech to it

keen garden
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we have a prospector suck it up and run back while the mole keeps cracking

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even the 80k rock was only 31 scu

wary lantern
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is there anything to do with quant other than sell it

keen garden
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you can turn it into polaris bits, and sell those or turn them in for an A2 or polaris/idris

aaron-halo-rockbreak.png
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prospector didn't even catch on fire

long grail
#

Anyone know a trick to getting BitZero missions to show up?

rose kestrel
#

What is 998 quality Dolavine worth? I dont want to short hand myself when selling.

native aurora
rose kestrel
storm storm
rose kestrel
onyx trench
#

For the hull C loading mission cargo: is it still automated when you enter the cube or is it manual now?

bronze dirge
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youtube says its still broken, AND has a new bug!

onyx trench
#

Has anyone attempted it this patch? Was it consistently broken or intermittently like before?

spare cloud
onyx trench
opaque dock
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what influences being unable to fracture ~36 scu rocks with golem with 2x surges, and the rock having 0 resistance?

spare cloud
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SCU is irrelevant

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There are two factors to crack a rock, which are mass and resistance.
Third factor, instability, will just make it harder to stay in the green zone, especially if it's small.

opaque dock
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instability also can let you fracture impossible rocks, its cool

bronze dirge
#

So I just learned the hard way I cant store my hull C and unload it 🙁

opaque dock
#

for missions that require 4x different materials, what's the fast way to spam them for rep?

bronze dirge
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So….If I’m salvaging cargo with my hull C, how do I sell it if I can’t store it and sell at the terminal?

maiden iris
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we were telling how to do this

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sell for hull c using external freight elevators

bronze dirge
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Ooooh ok

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So…. That limits me to planetary and l1 stations right?

spare cloud
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Planetary and gateway stations.

bronze dirge
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I just went to where the sc tools told me to sell.

spare cloud
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L stations don't have cargo services.

bronze dirge
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Gotcha

maiden iris
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there are no external freight elevators in stanton where you can sell titanium, gotta goto pyro

bronze dirge
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I had medical supplies.

maiden iris
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well you can try, but likely you wont find any buyers for that in stanton at a external freight elevator

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too many people trying to sell that commodity

bronze dirge
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Doesn’t matter now lol. When I recalled my ship it sent it to a hangar instead of a dock

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No ship, no cargo

maiden iris
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cant get it from hangar?

bronze dirge
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It blew up

maiden iris
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oh rip

bronze dirge
#

I assumed it would go back to the docking spindle

maiden iris
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i think that would be too janky for the devs to make that happen, too much chance of spawning ontop of other ship trying to dock?

bronze dirge
#

no idea

spare cloud
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No, docking ports get a waiting queue like hangars do.

maiden iris
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ah as long as you call it , you are safe then

bronze dirge
#

can I call it to a docking port? Is there a terminal inside of them?

spare cloud
#

You don't get to choose.

bronze dirge
#

ah

tired sinew
#

is the global chat dead?

spare cloud
#

Do not store a Hull-C with cargo. Avoid issues.

tired sinew
#

in sc

bronze dirge
#

so I've learned

spare cloud
tired sinew
#

soz i just joined here XD

spare cloud
#

#helpdesk and #star-citizen will be more appropriate for that.

tired sinew
#

didnt see where i was typing

spare cloud
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Np 👍

maiden iris
bronze dirge
#

That sounds great, thank you!

maiden iris
#

you wanna join VC or no voice

bronze dirge
#

VC is easier. Same name in gmae for me too

lusty plinth
#

can anyone help teach me

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mostily looking for some one to show my the ins and outs of scraping

maiden iris
#

can you have multiple people using remote turret on hull c at same time ?

spare cloud
maiden iris
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so only one person on tractor beam at once ?

spare cloud
maiden iris
#

well dang

spare cloud
#

Smort, right ?

crude thunder
#

Has anyone experienced the Moth boxes getting stuck inside the printer? I had an 8scu box get hung up inside the wall and doors looked to be stuck open. But go to print the other side and the box never prints. Sending the ship down and back up the hangar seemed to fix the perpetual printing but boxes would still remain in the walls unable to extract. Self destruct fixes the issue temporarily but then it returned.

native aurora
#

I'm probly gonna get a hull c today and try it out

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Maybe do a few more runs with the hull b first

maiden iris
native aurora
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Oh gotcha

maiden iris
#

with a crew of 2 just did a hullc with one ship salvaged, 12.9 mil total payout. 1hr 15 mins time investment

native aurora
#

Damn. I'm about to get on and Ill time how long it takes me to do it solo in a hull b.

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Did yall do just titanium or everything?

maiden iris
native aurora
#

copy.

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im heading back from pyro now so imma start one when i get to hurston.

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how feasible is it to use a hull c and just take the titanium and keep spamming the contract till you have a full hull c load and then jump to pyro and sell it?

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i bet jumps with a fully loaded hull c suck

maiden iris
#

all your eggs in one basket

native aurora
#

well thats my plan

maiden iris
#

the biggest problem is pirates cuz titanium only sells in pyro

native aurora
#

i havent had any issues with those in the hull b but i guess im not as exposed with it

maiden iris
#

hullb you can sell in stanton

native aurora
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not the titanium

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not usually

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too full

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but im gonna sell the iron and nitro in stanton first then make the jump

latent basin
#

o7 Afternoon, folks.

native aurora
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well the first place i went is full on nitrogen. it would be nice if uex/ sc trades was more accurate but i get it, its hard to be perfect.

latent basin
#

Have they brought ice mining in yet? I know they were talking about it a while back, but I haven't seen any. Of ice in the belt, so that's why I was asking.

maiden iris
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i always go to the one on the bottom of the uex list

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run 2 i did solo 45 minutes - 10.7m

native aurora
#

thats grim hex in this case

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if its gonna be like this im gonna have to just get a hull c and go to pyro. this isnt nearly as fun when everywhere you go is full up...

maiden iris
#

ill dm you the titanium demand in the stations i checked in pyro

native aurora
#

second place is also full on nitro... man what a mood killer

maiden iris
#

nitrogen is worst one to sell, the demand caps way too low for SKU amount

native aurora
#

im about to just jettison this shit into space and try iron. this is suchj a pain in the ass. but it figures. i finally find a way to make decent money and its a hassle...

maiden iris
#

demand pool for iron and titanium is 7-10x larger than nitrogen

native aurora
#

i wish they would just remove the cap on station inventory

maiden iris
#

I kinda like it, even tho it can be frustrating it can also be rewarding to use some strategy to find sellers

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makes it a bit less of a braindead / bottable loop

native aurora
#

what strategy though? they are all full

maiden iris
#

i just made 30 mil in the last 2 hrs

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my strategy

native aurora
#

well, it aint working if i cant sell it any where with the hull b

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so like i said

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im just gonna have to get a hull c and just go to pyro

maiden iris
#

for selling in stanton tho the strategy be would be dont take the nitrogen, med supply , stim bait, and find the ones that still have demand

native aurora
#

well yeah its always gonna be like this im not gonna mess with it.

maiden iris
#

TDD likely would be the play for iron or tit

native aurora
#

they pay to little and are a hassle. id rather make the jump to pyro since i havent invested my own money like i do with commodities

maiden iris
#

ya pyro is better if you wannna deal with the pirating issue

native aurora
#

ive yet to even be shot at in pyro

maiden iris
#

hullb pretty safe cuz hangars

native aurora
#

yes but im not gonna jump for an entire hull c worth though, thats just too much

maiden iris
#

did you read my DM?, it will save you lots of time

native aurora
#

i will jump for 1 load of tit

native aurora
bronze dirge
#

neat. Even though I logged out in Pyro with you, I woke up at Everus Harbor

jovial matrix
maiden iris
bronze dirge
#

I never knew that. I always bed logged or woke up at area18

maiden iris
#

When you at a18 habs you can log out and it will bring you to a18 hangar

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Assuming that’s your home

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Free teleport. Skip the train

bronze dirge
#

It is, but Everus is fine. Except that AESOP doesnt seem to be working

maiden iris
#

We made some good cash today, I think I can optimize it with 2 to be quite a bit more

native aurora
#

asop is def in a mood today...

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im still using the hull b solo but im gonna try a hull c when i have some backup

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still doing good though

maiden iris
#

Should I buy the carrack to try out

native aurora
#

ive heard its a nightmare to load

maiden iris
#

Maybe it’s good for pirate defense forces home base

lusty plinth
#

is there anyone that wants to scavange with me im new and am loking for money and expeirence

bronze dirge
#

normaly I'd ivite you, but the game doesnt seem to want me to have a ship

lusty plinth
#

its ok ive been strugling with that same issue of my ship not spawning in

bronze dirge
#

haha Im not even getting that far. Even changed servers

native aurora
#

@lusty plinth how long you gonna be on?

bronze dirge
#

I might go lay back down for a bit. Watch some youtube

native aurora
#

cause i am gonna get a hull c and try and do some super cargo runs and i could split it with you. i will be figureing out the hull c and external elevators for the first time so it might have some growing pains but you are welcome to come. probly in 30 mins to an hour from now

lusty plinth
#

im not on rn im waiting for some one to invite me

native aurora
#

bet, ill @ you qwhen i get ready

lusty plinth
#

ok

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im watching a guild rn on how to do it so im not a pain in the ass to have along

native aurora
#

nah. if you can put your shoes on unassisted, you'll be fine

lusty plinth
#

ok

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XD

maiden iris
#

may want a maxlift :)

lusty plinth
#

have one

native aurora
#

if not i bought like 10 maxlifts at every station in stanton so im never very far away from one, lol

lusty plinth
#

somecay ill be that rich but for now i gotta grind

native aurora
#

we gonna make some money in just s sec. im headed back to stanton to buy the hull c then we can get after it

lusty plinth
#

sound good

native aurora
#

well. im being interdicted right now so its gonna be a bit longer

lusty plinth
#

thats ok

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im sorting things out so

native aurora
#

nice! i made the jump before they could get me

lusty plinth
#

W gettaway

native aurora
#

lets hope the line at new deal isnt terrible

lusty plinth
#

you should be fine

#

yesterday night i got in and out in 10 minutes

native aurora
#

okay i got one. you wanna jump in a vc?@lusty plinth

lusty plinth
#

yeah

keen garden
#

So, i have a box i pulled up the elevator and set aside in my home hangar. i can confirm it has stuff in it.

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now i can see it in my storage again, with all the same stuf

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but i can't access any of the stuff in the one that's in my hangar

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i can pull stuff out of the one that's in my storage

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wild. now the boxes in storage are gone, and the item i pulled out of the box, from storage, doesn't exist in the box anymore. so the register for the box still existed in storage and that's why i couldn't pull out of the physicalized one, until the desync fixed itself

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no matter what i do i can't seem to remove items from this box

broken harness
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Does the Golem suck or something
Every rock is impossible
And you can't upgrade the mining head right?

wheat spire
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Nope, just the attachments on the head. Slapping some surges on there and a Sabir on the rock is as good as it’s getting.

craggy tapir
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its really just a vacuum ship, designed to suck up small deposits

wild olive
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Any fluent miners on that can answer some questions?

craggy tapir
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not really that big of a miner but i could answer some questions

wild olive
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Doing some mole ops, and really struggling to break rocks in the 40-50k mass range. Currently running helix 2 with 3 surge modules. What can I change to get better results with breaking open the bigger ones?

craggy tapir
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you using gadgets too?

wild olive
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yes though not as much as I should. Still trying to learn when I should use which gadget

craggy tapir
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i use sabir frequently

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although it raises instability 15%

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it reduces resistance by 50% and 50% bigger opt charge window

wild olive
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hmmm okay, ill try it with a sabir. Thank you!

craggy tapir
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other people could also help ya

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maybe ask in global chat too

thorn timber
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hi, i was trying to lvl covalex reputation but i feel it very hard to do it comfortly, there is an ""easy"" way to do it, im rn at junior, or the bets way its the stacking contracts and completting them?

covert dome
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Jr contracts and stacking is unfortunately the way to go

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each contract level will give you the best experience at that level

fading pecan
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best solo mining and salvaging ship? i want to start mining and get mats for crafting

coarse ember
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prospector/mole is good for solo/multicrew mining

solo salvage i'd say vulture, plus if you pay someone/get a friend on you can have them in the lower cargo area to move the boxes for you glorpBongo

bronze dirge
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this is m ore of a UEX question but, I'm looking for station with Cargo Stations to find external freight elevatoirs right?

spare cloud
bronze dirge
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Im using UEX to find sell locations b/c they tend to be mostly in pyro. Sazme rules or different?

random patrol
verbal tangle
# fading pecan best solo mining and salvaging ship? i want to start mining and get mats for cra...

If you are salvaging for cmat specifically, moth is best imo. If you want rmc, vulture or fortune depending entirely on your preference of design, I think both ships are pretty close to identical on paper. Vulture you can store more on board before unloading cause cargo grid is interior and you can shove plenty of boxes off grid. Fortune will be much faster to unload with an external cargo grid.

vague thunder
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The hull C salvage missions spawn a full cargo load, right? So if I tried to hit them with a C2 Starlifter, it'd take quite a few trips

native aurora
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No not a completely full load. But at least half in my experience. And yeah the c2 could take awhile

long frost
spare cloud
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So a half full Hull-C would only be two trips

vague thunder
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Just thinking the C2 would be 'less' of a target for pirates if we have to sell Titanium in Pyro.

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and yeah I've gotten that baby so full

spare cloud
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Pirates will more easily ignore a Hull-C over a C2. I would.
Dealing with the pain of having to unload a Hull-C, for cargo that will most of the time be low value...

In any case, with one or the other, take unusual QT routes and you'll be clear from interdictions.

vague thunder
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oh I figured they'd scan you and see what you were hauling

random patrol
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Why are you selling titanium in pyro? Just take it to orison

vague thunder
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i just figured with all these salvage missions, Stanton would be overloaded

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havent actually started yet, just hit 10k mission tier last night

thorn timber
long frost
random patrol
thorn timber
keen garden
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Reclaimer is by far the best for rmc

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Solo or otherwise

latent basin
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@keen garden Right now you can solo A reclaimer., but that's not going to be. Possible in the future. Your best bet for the future is a vulture. Or a fortune. I prefer the fortune. Because of the bubble cockpit, but that's me.

keen garden
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That’s unknowable

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In the current game, current tuning, it’s the choice for solo or group rmc in bulk

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The game could certainly change one day

spare cloud
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That's been the plan forever so far.

vague thunder
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98k SCU. they're gonna have to fix the autoloader bug first.

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damn.

latent basin
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They just knocked that down to 1200. SCU. Here are a couple Iscs ago. For the hull e

spare cloud
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It's only 12k now.

latent basin
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Which I think is reasonable, because really, could you imagine trying to? Even though that is gonna take you probably a couple hours. With a full six man rotation. Auto live probably going to take. I would guess. Two hours, three maybe.

vague thunder
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Needs 7 more

spare cloud
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Before the downsize, it was expected to have new SCU container sizes, that would only be possible to lift in zero-G, to load the Hull-D and E faster.

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But now it's probably going to stop at 32SCUs forever.

vague thunder
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A jump from 32 to 128 would be cool, same shape, just scale the model up by 4

spare cloud
spare cloud
vague thunder
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sorry, i didnt mean scaled by 4, I meant doubling length, width, and height. So 8 32scu boxes worth I guess it'd be 256.

Listen if I could do math like that...

latent basin
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I love. The hull A I wish they would bring it up to the. 32. Container size. Somehow, but I don't know if they can.

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Maybe a rework before foundation day? AKA 1.0.

keen garden
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Sounds like the same stacking bug all auto loaded grids have

vague thunder
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autoloading works fine

keen garden
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I have it every time I collect a refinery order to grid

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Mostly just a minor inconvenience

vague thunder
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i havent been able to find an IC report for the autoloading grid problem

latent basin
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@vague thunder Search up the top and it should tell you, but I think it's a well known issue. They're working on at the moment.

covert dome
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I’ve had it in the Herc

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Usually it’s a single box that duplicates itself forever

native aurora
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anyone know a workaround for the hull c not letting me go into the tractor beam turrets?

flint grotto
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I am in the levski voice chat (Voice Session II). I need help with the first Mission in Nyx - Levski. "XS Purchase Order - Ship Mined Ore - Aluminum or Quartz". I dont know how to hand these in. I have already refined them and placed them in Levski storage not ship storage.

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NVM I figured all this out

bronze dirge
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I’m not finding anything current, but I’m pretty sure the answer is no:

I can’t park an MPUV on my Hull C grid to help with Eva loading/unloading can I?

jovial matrix
bronze dirge
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Thanks. That would be to easy lol

keen garden
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I have seen people pull up an atls on the external elevator and just tractor it to the terminal platform

craggy tapir
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saw in TristPWN recent ironclad vid that the ironclad has stairs from the hold directly to the CM

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quite nice actually

native aurora
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I'm excited for it. Im gonna try it out first but if it's at all reasonable to use solo I'mma get one.

craggy tapir
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and thats why i love ship that release during ILW and IAE

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being able to test out the new ship directly without buying it

random patrol
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I foresee lots of abandonded ironclad's.....lots of free salvage kekw

craggy tapir
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ICA should have high yield rmc

native aurora
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I hope it will be effective to replace my hull c. That thing is a pig fully loaded but the ironclad could be too

vague thunder
sleek bridge
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Guys whata the best solo mole loadlout?

maiden iris
bronze dirge
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It’s basically a flying atlas

maiden iris
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why isnt it showing on the wiki, am i blind ?
https://starcitizen.tools/MPUV_Cargo

Star Citizen Wiki
MPUV Cargo

The MPUV Cargo (Multi Purpose Utility Vehicle Cargo) also known as MPUV-1C is a light transport snub ship developed by Argo Astronautics and is designed to transfer small amounts of freight as well a single passenger over a short distance. Functioning as a common intergalactic Stevedore , a significant number of MPUV Cargos facilitate the loadi...

bronze dirge
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Mpuv tractor

maiden iris
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oh i see, very cool!

echo ridge
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shh PoE2 stream is on

left ore
native aurora
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Does the atls work in EVA?

deft swan
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What is a good ship to ferry 16 SCU crates from ships to hangars cause of the CMAT stuff

keen garden
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hull a, ox, c1,

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For bulk, c2

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Or hull b

bronze dirge
bronze dirge
native aurora
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so i docked with the hull c and had a load of cargo to refuel and get drinks. when i got back to the ship and tried to leave, it wouldnt let me undock and then teleported me back to the lobby. and stored my ship in a hangar. with the spindle out. is there any way to fix this or am i just screwed for this batch of cargo?

maiden iris
native aurora
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nope

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i only started docking 2 days ago so i didnt know there was a problem

maiden iris
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were you able to undock last time?

native aurora
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yeah it went fine

maiden iris
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ah maybe you arent bugged then, its a hotkey bug i think

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hit hotkey to undock and it doesn't reg the keypress

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gotta go into mobiglass to send undock req

native aurora
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yeah thats what happened this time. i hit the key several times but nothing happened

maiden iris
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last time i pulled out my hullc with spindle out it spawned fine and fit in the hangar

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maybe i was lucky?

native aurora
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the bottom spindle is in the floor and the ship wont move

maiden iris
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can you put the cargo in the hangar elevator now

native aurora
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im sure im screwed, i alt f4 to try and fix it but now i cant get the launcher to work so its probly gone

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its making me verify game files. that was such a good load, too. had 2 full racks of titanium

maiden iris
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rip 12 mil

native aurora
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yeah...

wicked robin
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hi guys , why my golem dont move ? i move to one planet for test mining and after try to mining a ore now the ship dont move

keen garden
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Right shift?

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Did you land?

pearl juniper
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Did you scroll your max speed to zero by accident while adjusting laser power?

swift flint
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@covert dome loading up the RAFT is nice. still learning the layout of the grid tho. looks a bit like a dog from 3rd person camera lol

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native aurora
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I want a raft cause I Iove the look of argo but I know it would just sit in asop. I might get one anyway

keen garden
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Get one

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I rarely use mine, but when I do it’s an ideal ship for the job

native aurora
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I might, but I'd probly just the hull b. I do love the look though

covert dome
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its 6x32 slots

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if you use the grid viewer, you can divide into whatever number you need to use

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it gets a little weird with multiple size boxes, but i usually go largest to smallest at the edges

keen garden
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The hull b is a nice layout, but if you know you’re gonna be hauling a bunch of randomly sized boxes I’d prefer the raft over the b

covert dome
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the split between 16SCU boxes is dumb design

keen garden
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Since its grid is one big section rather than 4 or whatever smaller sections

covert dome
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i don't know why they didn't make the hull b layout one full slot

keen garden
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Because they wanted it to have a cool animation

covert dome
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its 8 grids

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2 grids per arm

keen garden
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It’d be better if it was just an always open grid

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But that’s not how hull series ships work

swift flint
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I got a member rank with covalex so it's only medium contracts or lower so 8 SCU boxes are the biggest I can do

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also, stacking missions sucks with the current cargo implementation. you can't use the same commodity from a different mission. I am supposed to go around playing tetris until I find the correct boxes to put into the cargo elevator?

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now even if the station asks for 4 SCU of quartz and I put in 4 SCU of quartz but it's from a different contract, it won't register and won't give full payout

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feels like a waste of a ship to do one contract at a time

covert dome
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yup

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they're coded per mission

keen garden
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Back when I did cargo all that mattered was that it was the right mix of sized boxes

covert dome
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there's a verification check that happens now

keen garden
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Didn’t care which 2scu box you put in, as long as it was contracted to you, was 2scu, and of the right material

covert dome
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hm

swift flint
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why did they change that? they made it unnecessarily difficult

covert dome
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yeah that's a bit dumb

keen garden
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I think it’s a right sizing thing

covert dome
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i think if its coming from the same location and contract it doesn't matter which boxes go where

keen garden
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It’s too profitable to run a bunch of smaller contracts merged together on a much larger ship

covert dome
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yeah that's my theorem on why it refreshes as well

keen garden
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But also they don’t reward enough for the right sized contracts to make it worth doing them most of the time

covert dome
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yup

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senior contracts suck

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because you have like 12093210 drop off points

swift flint
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I mean I'm doing member missions now with multiple drop off points because rep

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tho direct junior mediums give 500 per one point

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instead of 1000 per 4 points

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so junior directs would be faster probably

keen garden
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Payout should be a base value per SCU, + a flat fee per location

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Pay more if the location isn’t armistice

swift flint
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so if it pays full rep for any sort of completion, I'd rather submit to one location and be done with the contract kekw

covert dome
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junior directs are faster

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what I was doing when I was grinding rep was before the changes, but I would take my caterpillar and section it by location

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load the boxes in each section then unload them based on those sections

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some have done it with a starlancer as well but its a bit more annoying, i liked the segments

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you can theoretically do it if you have the SCU on the RAFT, but sectioning gets real annoying on the RAFT, only downside

keen garden
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I was doing that with a herc

covert dome
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oh god

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that sounds miserable kekw

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did you split it into 4 sections on the herc?

keen garden
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It was fine, just leave a 1scu space to separate

covert dome
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nice

keen garden
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But also I was separating on material, not location/contract, because it was different back then

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I went through the entirety of member rep in 1 trip

swift flint
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and now I don't wanna play SC anymore. didn't turn off my engines and at some point after landing it bugged out and the ship was spit up into the air. bugged through the elevator and now it's fucked

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keen garden
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Should be able to store it

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If it doesn’t give the option, pull up something small and send it down

swift flint
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I can, gonna go do it from inside the station

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so it just despawns

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cargo run saved

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one thing I don't like about the raft is how slow the elevator/doors are. way too annoying

keen garden
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Seems like a realistic speed

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But you can speed up your exit/entry by opening all doors and jumping out the airlock

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Then make sure you only go to first floor when re-entering… why is engineering default

swift flint
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only about the annoying

keen garden
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same reason I tend to avoid crusader ships

covert dome
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I love the Herc and Crusader ships

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but I’m weird

covert dome
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You just need to remember to reset it on patch

pearl juniper
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reallllyyy? How does one do that?

covert dome
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Hold interact and right click to open the wheel. Hover over the interaction you want defaulted. Middle mouse button to open up more settings for that interaction, set to primary.

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if it still works

swift flint
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I may have miscalculated and picked up 2 junior contracts worth 193 scu

long frost
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But the cl is a pain to load that's why I avoid it haha

long frost
swift flint
native aurora
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The c2 is alot raiser to load of you are doing 32 sized boxes and an atls. Otherwise, it can be a chore for sure

opaque dock
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what's a good laser setup for solo mole?

olive gull
deft swan
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hey if i wanted to run a reclaimer solo how would i transfer the CMAT from my ship to the refinery

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is there an easy way cause rn we require minimum of 2 to hual it back and forth

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does levski have refineries?

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what system is levski in

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oh nice

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thank god now i dont have to pay my friend to haul it with a hull B

placid void
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well there goes 1.h of work and a were to be mill fetching mission cargo around stanton and flying it to pyro down the fucking drain cause 2 dickheads were camping bueno ravine

maiden iris
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That’s what makes it fun

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The risk of it all going poof

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sneaky play is fun too

brittle gust
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What is the fastest way to grind covalex rep? I don't care how fast I make money

past fractal
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Just doing missions. Always try to stack missions if you can, and do missions of your current tier

brittle gust
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I get I have to complete missions. That much is obvious. But do certain missions pay more rep per hour because you can chain them faster?

past fractal
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not really. You just want to make sure you are doing current tier missions as those give slightly more rep progress than lower tier ones. Technically, you could just chain the LEO to Starport missions over and over, but it'd take forever if what you want is rep

covert dome
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i'm at sr and I think I push Experienced with the old Magnus gateway contracts as well as with a Hull-C for a bit

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before the game ate the Hull-C I bought

native aurora
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what is a good setup for the mole to mine ouratite and aslarite?

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ill be solo

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i might just use my prospector tbh

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im just about to buy a mole and kinda wanted to try it out

quick narwhal
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I cant find the answer, sorry yall. How do I get access to the market?

deft swan
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quick narwhal
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I got it fixed, wouldnt let me copy and paste it like it said,i had to type it out. Thank you

deft swan
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is mining viable in this current patch? thinking of getting a mole

silver creek
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Cuz with people high q ore sells for a lot like a lot

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Idk what it is like with npc so can't comment there overall mole is worth

silver creek
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Not right this second but soon

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Anyways

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With hull b and covalex rep wouldn't it be a better idea too run 2 ships and just double up on missions?

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Cuz currently running sera too cru l1 and back idk if anyone knows better routes

crimson mantle
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Just make sure you are at microtech or hurston for distro center: crusader and area18 dont have distro centers so stacking missions there is not as easy/efficient

silver creek
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Working towards member running 4 missions too cru l1 2 back too sera

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And play session wise id play for longer if the bar moved more after doing 12 missions lol

jovial matrix
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Did my first multi-ship crack on a big rock! Took two hours to get 4 people and two moles to nyx, but we cracked this monster of a savrilium rock :)

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silver creek
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Make sure u use that sav up btw

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It's highly likely ore gets wiped

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Idk about crafted stuff

silver creek
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The guide im using is about a year old

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That

crimson mantle
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It's a good guide. Anything where you can stack ~4 missions at a time is good.
Another thing to know is that the ranks and missions scale in terms of reputation: when reputation grinding, always take contracts of the highest rank you can.

runic aurora
#

anyone know how much janalite goes for on the player market?

native aurora
native aurora
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im convinced 700+ ouratite doesnt exist, lol

cerulean lichen
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Any idea how to mine tungsten? Even the smallest rocks I find at like 50k mass 😑

jovial matrix
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Tungsten is a dense material, thats just how it is 🤷

small creek
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is the reclaimer have any major problems i need to worry about

opaque dock
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is there a single laser setup that can crack lindinium rocks?

stiff flame
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I mine lindinium with the Prospector with a Reiger C3 module. seems to work well enough. There's plenty of in in Nyx.

latent basin
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If you own it. I recommend a Helix size one. That's my personal favorite. Mining head.

split violet
native aurora
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we looked there and at yela and found nothing over 600.

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but i know it does exist, ive seen it for sale

split violet
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Bad luck I guess, I’ve found a bunch of 740+ all the way up to like 890 was the highest I believe

native aurora
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just gets frustrating trying to find a decent amount for crafting

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it really kills mining and crafting for me.

split violet
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I had terrible luck on the Hurston moons

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Not gonna matter anyway if the rumors are true that everything will reset to 500 in 4.8

native aurora
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yeah. we were just gonna try and hoard the mats and wait to craft till after the patch

split violet
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I stopped mining and crafting until I see more clear info on what will stay. Don’t have the time to waste doing all of that for it to reset

native aurora
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yeah. i still mine but its mainly just in the aaron halo for beryl to sell

random patrol
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Ive spent most of this patch living in my moth

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And flying around picking up leftover salvage...made a decent amount of $

native aurora
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yeah i cant wait for that thing to buyable in game. i cant stand using the vulture

silver creek
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Since I'm Junior

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I'm so close too member but it's taking forever

silver creek
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I had some high 913 Lind some 30scu rock iirc needed 3 people

stiff flame
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Highest I've been able to mine was around 700. I had the Helix 1 and reiger c3 module.

bronze dirge
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Imhaving trouble finding a webtool. It helped me get into the aaron halo, I put in what I was near, and it told me where to aim for and when to drop out.

shadow geode
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So I’ve been really into salvaging and had a good haul today. First ship I encountered (without contracts) was a Taurus. It gave me about 45 SCU of RMC. (About 380,000 aUEC)

I found a couple other VERY large ships in the world and they were abandoned. The issue was that they had shields, and I couldn’t scrape them.

What do I need to do to navigate this problem and scrape those abandoned ships?

random patrol
mild pumice
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This might not be an issue with bricking in 4.8 they should be free to scrape I imagine.

shadow geode
jovial matrix
shadow geode
craggy tapir
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Just board the reccy and disable powerplant in engineering

random patrol
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Dont know what they were trying to board

shadow geode
# random patrol Dont know what they were trying to board

A couple of things during the session: an inferno, and a hammerhead. Someone flew in on me when at the hammerhead, so I didn’t have time to check and got out of there. I had about 45 scu of RMC and didn’t want to lose it lol

random patrol