industrial-professions

[pearl juniper]

that's not an event

that's one of the FEW PVP focused areas in the whole game

[near swallow]

Pyro is an entire PvP focused solar system

[pearl juniper]

Like I said, take away the drag strip and the kids will go street racing. Align and Mine is the drag strip.

[near swallow]

And PvP is capable of happening almost everywhere, and eventually probably will be possible everywhere, since the long term goal is to remove armistice.

Almost everything they do seems required to involve combat.

[severe sentinel]

Pyro is quite peaceful those days, even the hot spot like Shepherd's rest (I salvage and scavenge a lot over there) or sunset mesa. Actually in my opinion, Hathor areas and routes like Levski -> Stanton gateway are more dangerous than Pyro.

(And supply or die was the best event ever)

[agile oyster]

It was I miss it
The price surge needs to be the same way
the place that sells the cargo needs unlimited stock and the place that sells it needs to buy unlimited amount of the cargo and the profit needs to be way better
I miss the never ending war at the Detatrine depots

[severe sentinel]

Detatryne fever got me

[tired meteor]

anyone know the maximum mass of the reclaimer for in atmosphere use?

[severe sentinel]

Good question

[storm storm]

Last event you did, the rep you needed for rewards didnt split when sharing them. There was huge groups of 10+ people doing it together and finishing in under an hour

Hathor is a PvP focused area DUE TO the pure caranite you can ONLY get there

[tired meteor]

<>_<> this thing has another cargo bay

[tired meteor]

2 at a time but we got time

[severe sentinel]

Yub but this doors are sometimes hard with 16SCU container

[tired meteor]

i filled it

[severe sentinel]

I only stacking in salvage processing and keep cargo hold for Ursa medivac and looted cargo and component

But it's always nice to see a full belly claimer

[ebon sedge]

Good morning. Just got this game last night. I am interested in using the starfarer to make fuel, to both sell and merc myself out. I am curious if that is a thing. And if so. How long does it take for it to fill itself up with the fuel it makes. Thanks!

[storm storm]

I don't think thats a thing

And if it is, it's VERY inefficient as i have never heard of it

[coarse ember]

it's not really a thing due to the fact they have each station spaced out so you can jump from one station to the next refueling as you go so starfarer doesnt have much use rn, pyro was supposed to be more spread out iirc but then they either moved them closer together or added more stations so you couldn't run out of fuel unless you didnt pay any attention, iirc they also did a pass on ships increasing the amount of fuel they hold so you wouldn't need to refuel as often

[vestal ravine]

I have found that departing from and landing at New Babbage can be tricky with that ship since it can roll with the winds and in the clouds you can get going in the wrong direction. So what I do on most departures including Orison is use the Boost key repeatedly (in SCM mode) and keep the ship in VTOL mode. You can use the F4 view to help make sure your going up plus the vertical speed numbers should be rising also. As you get higher up start looking for a jump point. If one turns blue you can drop out of VTOL go to NAV mode but keep using the boost key until you get into space. As far as modeling crate weight on landing I don't think that is a thing yet. I can land my Reclaimer on a any moon/planet as needed and take off again.

[tired meteor]

with the current mass it takes me 5 minutes to get out of microtech's gravity

[vestal ravine]

Yea that sounds about right it's just the way it is.

[naive vine]

Do mining gadgets work?

cant seem to place my sabir

[ebon sedge]

Dang. Well still enjoying the early game. But I guess my plans to be a fueling ship merc are not a thing. Maybe further into development.

[spare cloud]

It's tricky.
Not sure if it's real or placebo but hitting the "Attach" button seems to help, or whatever this button in top right corner of the gadget's screen is called.

[naive vine]

trying that but doesnt seem to help

[vestal ravine]

Hey do you ever find the need to fly the Reclaimer in full thrust rocket mode?

[tired meteor]

when in vtol or traveling on planets and moons yes

i tend to need to use the qd to get around rather then base output mode

[fair robin]

anyone want to group up and run Red Wind rep?

[spare cloud]

Use the #looking-for-session channel 👍

[long frost]

You don't see the placement prompt?

[naive vine]

no there is no green holo @long frost

[plain silo]

yay, I love randomly blowing up when cargo hauling

[plucky ridge]

So just got a hull c. When doing larger and multiple missions and loading through cargo dock, can you load multiple missions at once and drop off or does it get buggy?

[mild pumice]

It's very hit n miss, it can handle multiple contacts simultaneously loading and unloading but its even more prone to failure than a single contract

[plucky ridge]

Got it. Next time I’ll sign the contract, load, select next contract. I think it worked off of what was being tracked. Idk lol. Felt it was hit or miss. Found a rotating that was like 2k scu to drop off in two location, but then the next stop rotated to the second rotation and back home and the third spot took me home so allowed me to keep the hull full off loading and loading.

Not sure it liked unloading and loading at the same time lol

Too bad it doesn’t work from mission screen like “deposit” or “pick up” for cargo dock.

[mild pumice]

Yeah it can be quite intermittent, I had it load /unload successfully on several missions at once but was probably lucky lol

[plucky ridge]

Hahaha. Noted

[mild pumice]

More control over the loading would be good

[plucky ridge]

All good. It’s a process and I respect that. Glad I can turn in half way loaded at least.

[plucky ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/for-a-brick-he-flew-pretty-good-halo2-halo2anniversary-maxenmajs-gif-21038830

Btw. Laden hull c maneuvers like a brick.

[pearl juniper]

as it should

[jovial matrix]

A fully laden hull C flys like a light fighter compared to the MPUV tractor carrying 4 batteries

[plucky ermine]

Do medical beacons function in Pyro? I was going to setup shop at checkmate and play in the sandbox as a medic. Kind of hard to do if hey don’t work there.

[grand shuttle]

Is there some trick to getting quantum/jump drives out when scavenging? I can get them 3/4 the way out on some ships but it just snaps out as soon as I release. Only time ive ever got it is when I accidently glitched it through the hull

[tired meteor]

unloading the reclaimer be like

[torpid pivot]

oh did you happen to refine those at a refinery; that’s Construction Salvage right?

[tired meteor]

now i gotta do the cargo bay

[tired meteor]

no

gonna load all this onto a cat

[torpid pivot]

ah, you’re not hoping to sell that stuff are you?

Ahhh

nice

could you do me a solid and post the refinery order quote with the pyrochromatic (something) option

trying to see the ratio on it

[long frost]

Though I saw a vid recently where a multiple contract hull c unloads cargo to get to the contracted cargo, unloads that and then re-loads the other cargo

[mild pumice]

Yeah it does and should but as always with the Hull C it's hit n miss whether it works

It can fail to load, unload or just load or unload one contract, sometimes calling cargo ATC again will get it to finish, other times it just doesn't work. #HullCLife

[tired meteor]

gonna be tomorrow its 12am and my left hand is locking up

[torpid pivot]

no worries at all

feel better soon

[tired meteor]

its carple tunnel

im not sick

i just unloaded 94 16 scu containers is all

[torpid pivot]

well yeah but in my experience it isn't just always pain, it has moments where it feels better orr worse

I miss my reclaimer

[tired meteor]

oh my starts with a dull pain followed by it tighinting up to where i cant use it

[mild pumice]

When I did my grind to master haulage my mouse wheel finger was destroyed

[tired meteor]

the mech makes moving them so much easyer on the mouse wheel use

[torpid pivot]

yeah it's nice, though I was just printing 10 of the sixteen scu boxes, snap to grid, then dock at a refinery station, unload from terminal, and repeat until empty

lots of back and forth though it ammounted to like 1-2 mil an hour at peak efficiency

I wanna say it was during 4.5 ptu though

ccu'd it to a perseus and frankly it was a mistake

[native river]

Chris, where my abandoned ships at space stations salvage with no crime? We gonna help servers by clearing other peoples junk

[random patrol]

Youre crazy going back and forth like that. 🫡

[severe sentinel]

Come to pyro

[native river]

Nah bruv, im good. Dont wanan get mugged

[random patrol]

Pryo is space Detroit

[severe sentinel]

Urban legend

[severe sentinel]

I can told you that Pyro is safer than Stanton, if you avoid hot spots like Shepherd's rest and Sunset Mesa. But it's a very common idea, what I tell you is not good for my business ! More people trust that Pyro is a danger zone more wrecks for me 😉

every industrialist avoid Pyro, so all the Pirates are in Stanton to get them

[dapper aspen]

I vouch this, as a fellow pyro salvager

[pearl juniper]

I love how afraid of pyro people are. It's funny

[dapper aspen]

Pyro has more freedom then Stanton imo

[left ore]

The pirates I encounter in Pyro wait politely for me to finish dropping off my cargo at Shepherd's Rest then fight me as I'm leaving 🎩

[verbal tangle]

I've definitely been attacked for minding my own business more in Stanton 🤣

[verbal tangle]

Or shoot you down before you pick it up so you can come back and do it again!

[tired meteor]

cat load was about 10-20% of all the cargo from the reclaimer

once im home from work imma run the rest via C2 the hull c will draw to much attention

[severe sentinel]

🤝 bro

[severe sentinel]

Keep stanters in Stanton but I'm always amazed by there feeling about our home system

[left ore]

Pyro is definitely home

[dapper aspen]

There is a trick to it, but you gotta learn your own way in pyro

[severe sentinel]

What's best in life than to be in a 'claimer, with a cold Rust and a Aloprat skewer, munching some stanters ship wreck and see those credits filling our fillers ?

[left ore]

After all that shipping, I kind of welcomed the PvP, especially since I had just finished the contract.

[near swallow]

From a hauler's perspective, there's one little issue with trying to avoid Shepard's Rest. One of the intro hauling missions requires you to go there.

[severe sentinel]

Yeah hauling is more dangerous that's true, I was speaking more about salvagers and miners

[near swallow]

The one time I tried doing salvage in Pyro, which was admittedly during an event, I got attacked before I could even start. That was quite a while ago though, and before the Reclaimer had PDCs.

Space mining, in Pyro, wasn't fun either. Not because of players, but because the asteroid belts were so small and had very little to mine. Granted, this was during the same event.

[left ore]

I've had good luck mining and salvaging in Pyro, but I really think it's just that - luck. I usually just pick a random asteroid field and fly around.

That said, I have had my Vulture shot up doing the repair missions near Scrapper's Depot or whatever it's called. Can't see the point in shooting up a Vulture other than "fun".

Honestly the most dangerous part is getting back into station - all the little 1/8 SCU boxes floating around the hangar entrances are like invisible death traps.

[near swallow]

No idea why 1/8th SCU boxes would be floating around hangar entrances, that sounds really weird. Only time my Vulture ever got shot at in Stanton, was by an NPC, that was in a fight with another NPC. I ended up taking out the one that bothered me and salvaged it in addition to the mission ship I was doing.

[severe sentinel]

That's the point, vulture/prospector shooters. I can understand to be disabled to stole my RMC, that's a business move. But just be exterminated for fun that's another problem. Sometime I come back with more teeth and try to take revenge.

[random patrol]

Fwiw you'll have to goto pyro to mine Ice after 4.6

Thats one of the ores for contracts

[olive gull]

1/8 boxes come from delivery missions

[random patrol]

Used it geos also correct?

The wittle boxes

[severe sentinel]

And your stuff stocked in your ship inventory. And also with 4.5 all ships have fuse and canister stocked in so more 1/8 crate

[near swallow]

Unless there is a lot of PvP activity going on just outside the hangar, I would expect the boxes to either be delivered or abandoned near the delivery location inside the station. Not floating outside.

[random patrol]

1/8s are good to carry in the prospector with extra cruz etc

[olive gull]

i use them to give stuff to friends, instead of just droping items on the floor

[near swallow]

I carry my Cruz in my backpack, or armor.

[random patrol]

Goodie boxes

[near swallow]

Only time I got given stuff, it was in a 1 SCU box. And was stuff the people I was playing with and I looted during a mission. Way way back when.

I also have used 1 SCU boxes for player to player item trading.

I wish they'd add a proper item trading system though

[severe sentinel]

Got the same in the claimer mess hall full of beer and Aloprat skewer

[left ore]

I always put my loot in a 1 or 2 SCU box in the cargo hold, makes it easier to move to hangar or
retrieve when my ship gets 💥

[keen garden]

The value in pyro mining is on the surface, and the value in pyro salvaging comes after higher rep in HH where you can get two large ships to salvage at a time with nothing to fight

I’ve never been bothered by players mining in pyro

Pyro was probably more active/hostile before I started playing last May

But it’s been pretty safe

[sly moat]

is anyone doing ahuling missions rn if so do you mind carring me to member rank ?

[plucky ridge]

I can’t see the bulk missions for covalex. I have the ‘experience’ rep. Do I need to be in a certain station/system or are they not in 4.5?

[short quest]

Hey, sorry if i dont post in the right channel, i'm beginning trading with a Raft, when i'm attacked by pirates i dont have any chance...
What would u take between a Taurus, Corsair and a Starlancer Max ? I'd like to have a decent cargo and be able to defend myself, the Corsair looks great to defend itself but not that much cargo
I'm open for other ships under 8-9m, ty !

[exotic onyx]

Quick question for any other reclaimer owners out there, how the hell do you operate the drone station? or is it not functional yet?

[tired meteor]

drones still in development

to my understanding

[exotic onyx]

gotcha, thanks for the info!

[severe sentinel]

The whole ship is a kind of museum, it was made before salvage system and cargo system, it's Witness from the past.

So you can use it (I do) but it's waiting for a complete rework.

[exotic onyx]

I did see that theres an internal redesign in progress. I'm honestly excited for it, I'm loving the salvage loop. I made it my goal when i started playing and learned about the ships existence to save up to get one. I managed to raise about 5 mil using a rented vulture. right when I was debating on purchasing a vulture to save costs, I got hired by a random player to run Hyperion with him. He was offering 10 mil for it so i hopped on instantly. Told him about my goal and by end he surprised me with the full finds to get one

[severe sentinel]

Success story ! You are living the salvage dream !

That's my favorite ship too, and I have it for long now. That's the Nostromo vibes interior who got me.

But yeah I heard about the rework and I seriously hope that they will do it soon and maybe a possibility to refine (instead of the useless grinder taking too much place) and a better cargo grid and new elevator/ramp system ect ect (but I hope they will not touch the dirty Nostromo style)

[exotic onyx]

Big same, I'm honestly hoping for the refinery and replacing the elevator with/adding on a big ramp. If i could park an SRV or something in there it'd be perfection.

Though ive never heard of nostormo, youve got my interest peaked. Gotta look it up now

Just googled it, holy hell I'm in love

[severe sentinel]

Alien 1 ship

[severe sentinel]

In the original concept they talk about a snubship

[gilded latch]

Is there a list somewhere of ships that have build in tractor beams?

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[near swallow]

Man, SC really annoyed me. All I wanted to do was take some refined ores to market and sell them. So, after grabbing the refinery order I get in my loaded up Golem Ox, hit F2, and the game just freezes. After closing the unresponsive game and running it, I'm shard locked (which is fine) but when I connect, it's to a different shard. I'm guessing the whole shard I was on crashed.

I wake up in the hab, go pull out my ship, and all the ore is there. So I try to plot a route to A18 to sell the ore, but it just won't do it. So I do it manually, basically. I get to A18, call for a hangar, and when I'm slowly going into the hangar clearly marked as mine, suddenly I get repositioning player. And it doesn't go away. I exit to main menu, log back in (getting the same shard by sheer coincidence) and find out that my ship is "Unknown" along with it's cargo. The ship I could claim, but the cargo I can't get back. So, that was not a good session.

[random patrol]

The last time I was at A18 I was repositioned also....and I got a crime stat for trespassing.

Fwiw if you had issues before taking the ore down....I suggest you store it and wait to sell it to avoid any bigger issues.

[near swallow]

The first issue I'd had, was on a different shard. (The QT routing issue may have been due to obstructions and CIG's poor design of that system.) When I actually went down to sell it, I was on a totally different shard. (The name was different, even though I was shard locked.)

If I stopped trying to do anything any time I experienced an issue in the game, I'd never be able to do anything. There are likely thousands of unpatched bugs that you can encounter. With the number going up faster then it goes down.

[brittle kraken]

Ironclad in greybox review 🥳

[keen garden]

The only real defense you have against piracy in a cargo ship is running, and not getting interdicted. You won’t be able to fight back as a solo pilot in a Connie or raft, Corsair might have a chance if you have gunners, but generally if you are attacked by a smaller ship with a half decent player pilot, they can just stay in your blind spot till your power plant is off.

And… generally you’d be better off with escort fighters than gunners

You could play the big ship game and do cargo in an idris or Polaris, but even those are vulnerable to a pirate that is willing to sit there and shoot for a while

If they have a dampener

Just gotta consider it part of the equation when doing cargo in more dangerous areas

[short quest]

Yeah most of the time i'm just getting interdicted
So okay i can't fight back, i'll just take my raft and pray, It's sad, but I suppose it makes sense, a lonely cargo ship can't do much against a group of pirates

[short quest]

I stay in Stanton, but it doesnt feel like it's safe actually, or maybe i'm just not enough experienced to know where i can go

Thanks for the answer !

[keen garden]

Gotta do dog legs when you jump

[short quest]

Like not going straight to my objective ?

[keen garden]

That, and avoiding orbital markers

Tbh Stanton is more dangerous, when it comes to being interdicted

The distances are smaller, and there’s more people there to be interdicted

More value moving around

[short quest]

It makes sense, i'll try that

[short quest]

I see, i've never tried Nyx or Pyro so maybe its time !

[keen garden]

In pyro you’ll really only get interdicted on a direct path from checkmate to Stanton gateway

In nyx… you only have three points to jump to atm

So dog legs are harder, gotta accept a contract to get a good one

In pyro the danger is the places you stop rather than interdiction

Picking up cargo from a ground outpost is always dangerous in pyro

[short quest]

It looks worst haha, i wont be able to run away if i'm landed

Thanks for the advice, i think it will be great to avoid most of the pirates !

[keen garden]

Usually if I’m hauling something valuable, like wikelo mats from checkmate, I wait for someone in org to be doing it as well, and maybe get an escort on top of that. Strength in numbers

[plucky ridge]

Man these external cargo grids for hauling missions are finicky…

[coarse ember]

wdym? i have yet to give a external freight a go, is it like boxes have to be damn near exactly lined with grid or moreso some bug

[keen garden]

I’ve found them really convenient, but sometimes they won’t let you use your tractor beam

Also I wish I didn’t need to enter and exit my mole to lock/unlock ports, currently if I’m unloading it solo at an external elevator I gotta unlock ports, get out, offload, get back on, lock ports, go inside and refine/sell, come back out, enter mole and unlock, exit and load up the bags, fly off

Though… this is mostly due to the bug that won’t let me refine directly from the mole, if that was fixed it’d be a moot issue

[plucky ridge]

Referencing the hull c hauling cube thing you park into and it auto loads

I think the external elevators are fine

[coarse ember]

ah good ol hull c

[keen garden]

Ah, hmm… I’d rather that go away, in favor of some kind of QOL around attaching things to grid

If we could just sling things at the big external cargo grid and they be auto-caught and attached,

[coarse ember]

i wish they would fix it and not have it break the nanosecond the servers start

[plucky ridge]

I agree. Give me a minigame where I load it on like a computer screen and voila it appears.

[keen garden]

And, multi-box grabbing with the ship tractors would be nice

Grab a whole wing of boxes on the hull c at once

[plucky ridge]

Put a tractor beam on the freight platform I say

[coarse ember]

yeah that'd be pretty sick or something like hardspace: shipbreaker with little tethers to tie them together while you move it

[keen garden]

The auto loading is nice, but I’d rather we just have better tools for doing it manually

[coarse ember]

i fear the physics tho

[plucky ridge]

I agree. I just don’t feel like loading 50 boxes. But give me a satisfying and challenging way to do 10-15

[keen garden]

Tractor on the elevator that has that feature would suffice

And would support the herc

[plucky ridge]

Think about it. You’d give someone a full time job. I’d sit at a loading dock and move stuff for people and get paid haha

[near swallow]

If you store the Mole, you should be able to refine directly from it. That is what I do. I've done it with my Reclaimer too. But the ship does have to be stored.

[keen garden]

should be able to yea

but the last time i went mining this patch levski wouldn't take it without pulling the bags off

[near swallow]

Might be a problem with Levski's refinery then, works fine for me in Stanton.

I dropped off two loads earlier today.

The gateway stations in Nyx also have refineries, those might work properly. Haven't tried them though.

[next idol]

How it’s salvage rn? I can see they didn’t change the % yet of refinery. Or missions are good enough?

[vestal ravine]

Unless it changed in Stanton the legal salvage missions had big ships like the C2...

[exotic onyx]

with all the new missions theyre adding for salvage and changes to panel spawns, i really hope they shadowdrop the reclaimer redesign with it. itll be so nice to have an updated and mork workable interior

[candid stratus]

@next idol same shit u loose 80% of salvage by refining and refineries got no XL hangers so u have twice more work of u salvage in Stanton

[next idol]

damn

i wonder why ist taking so long

they put it as a problem to fix in the issue council

[candid stratus]

i think % of salvage lost is not an bug ,they lowered % of refined ore from mining too iirc

[grand shuttle]

they increased the sale price to offset that though, didn't they?

[keen garden]

Yes, but not enough to make it not a loss in profit for salvaging (for mining it was an increase in profit, ignoring quant)

[candid stratus]

@grand shuttleyep,though if we talk bout salvaging and constructing material refine they added tons of work,
and price not raised enough to cover it,
especially if u salvage in Stanton amount of work is absurdal,cause lack of xl hangars at refineries.

[next idol]

but now you can refine from the reclaimer by docking iirc

its just that the % seems very off even with the price changes

more if you play with people, the payoff its absurd

[keen garden]

Which… is because adding more players isn’t increasing the amount of output enough to warrant having more players

Increasing the value of cmats/rmc or outputs from printing/salvaging won’t help with that

With mining having more players can be beneficial, if it leads to more very valuable rocks being found because there’s a big enough price difference between a regular rock and a jackpot to make it make sense

(Again, ignoring the player market price of quant)

Because there’s no real value in scouting, or ship combat, or cargo handling with salvage, the only benefit you see is having a second player sitting in the reclaimer laser, but that’s not quite enough to make it valuable to have that second player, you’d have more laser uptime if you put each in their own reclaimer on their own mission. Laser uptime is everything currently for salvage

Now… if they added back valuable cargo on to ships from ship combat missions, using their cargo size tiers so smaller targets had smaller but more valuable cargo, and larger ships had bigger but less valuable but still overall 20% better value, suddenly there’s a reason to have a security team and a cargo team when you go salvaging

[left ore]

Cargo would make salvaging a lot more interesting too, aside from being profitable. Put a few things in the lockers, add cargo, sprinkle in some corpses.

[vestal ravine]

You can save time with the Reclaimer by cheesing the unloading. Just dump out the rear chute till done then store ship the crates should show up in your FE view.

[severe sentinel]

Salvaging is a quest, it's not about money. You roam into the deep black searching for some prey, and here you are facing it. The magnificent of a fallen space giant in front of you. The beautiful death and you're gonna to git it a new life a new purpose.... Before that you are trying to explain why this situation, Wich event happened. You become a kind of inspector looking for clues...

Such a good thing with engineering it's that you see the failures logs into the terminal and you have the piece of the wreck history...

So salvaging isn't not a job it's a life style

[cerulean dove]

Do asteroids somehow scale with the ship you're in? I tried Mole mining today and all of the asteroids I came across were significantly larger than the ones I find when using a Prospector.

Was it just funky coincidence or is it an actual feature?

[vestal ravine]

As far as I know that is not a thing.

[mild cloud]

So with item recovery will we not be able to salvage components from wrecks?

[tropic swallow]

Anyone got 30,000 Construction Salvage laying around?

👀

[tropic swallow]

A good coincidence

[tropic swallow]

D: No thanks

[candid stratus]

@next idolyes but only that part of cargo wchich is on grid,people usually load 3 times more off grid otherwise its not profitable at all.

[left ore]

Can you split the job up among multiple refineries? Might be a bit too late now.

[verbal tangle]

Bruh. Bruh

That wouldn't even finish processing before 4.6 goes live (if the estimate is correct)

[tropic swallow]

I did one for the same yield, 40 hours

“Very low speed” 40 hours

“Low speed” 245 hours

[next idol]

I really want to get back into SC but salvaging its in such a bad position rn

that is weir dbecause it seems they wanna push salvage updates

[olive gull]

next week (monday or day after) the 4.6 update will drop, we are praying to get a fix on the salvaging prices

[grand shuttle]

Fix is in the notes, anyone see what the values are now?

[hollow olive]

Would the Asgard be decent to start hauling with?

[grand shuttle]

its not the worst but its a little price for a "starter" hauler.

[torpid pivot]

do we have numbers on the rmc/salavage price changes from the latest ptu yet?

[plain silo]

Is there much difference between the vulture and the fortune for salvage?

[coarse ember]

to me not really,
like you can almost get the same amount of boxes with some off-grid (39 in vulture vs 34 in fortune) in each, imo just slap abrades on either and pick whichever you think you'd enjoy more, fortune is slightly cheaper at like 1.2 or 1.3 mil i believe and vulture is 2.6 mil

for a second i was questioning myself did the math and was wondering how tf i managed 36 in a fortune but then remembered buffer exists

[polar dock]

would you guys recommend hauling, mining or salvage to branch out into? I'm working with an avenger titan currently

[spare cloud]

With a Titan, neither.

Just do which ever you like the most.

You can rent a ship for each of those careers, so just try and see.
Hauling and mining you can rent a ship for.
Salvage you need to buy one.

[verbal tangle]

I am pretty sure you can rent a Vulture in Levski, no?

[spare cloud]

Indeed yes.

[verbal tangle]

to be fair, I wasnt sure, I just vaguely remember that there was a rentable salvage ship somewhere XD

[halcyon sundial]

With all the talk about crafting I wanted to ask, Is resource quality currently in live? Can I go out and find 900+ quality Aluminum or Gold, refine it and store it for when crafting comes out?

[random patrol]

Nope. It gets removed when there is a patch

[near swallow]

Commmodities don't get saved when a patch happens. Also, crafting has only been on a Tech Preview for Evocati, it's not coming for a bit. (Maybe spring or summer?)

[grand shuttle]

do we know what the sell price increase is on the ptu for salvage yet?

Price Adjustment for RMC/Salvage and Refine time Compensation. Removal Of Empty Cannisters, Adustment to Decari Pod Pricing.

[next idol]

Unless the price is absurdly high I don’t think it will fix the issue

[brittle kraken]

According to a redditor it is now:

15K for CMAT (4.5 price 10.7K)
6K for RMC (4.5 price 5K)

at Lorville TDD

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1ql7eop/comment/o1d91rm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Its weird that they recognised the issue on IC with the refining months ago and it is still not fixed. Perhaps it was miscommunication within CIG and it was always meant to be this poor?

Actually I might be mis-remembering that they recognised the issue as I can't find it, nor can I even find an IC about it. I might be going mad.

Are the refining rates supposed to be higher or did I make it up?

[grand shuttle]

at least for mining they reduced ratios so that it didnt create a transportation bottleneck, but the price was supposed to be raised to offset that.

[narrow breach]

Has anyone seen Junior rank for Ling hauling contracts? I havent seen them, just rookie contracts. my rank is going up (in junior) but no matter what system i go to, i cant find junior rank

[cyan sun]

I’m curious about ship salvaging I have the cutlass black and ideally want to use that ship can I find wrecks and use the rifle srt and make decent money or is it just so much worse then the vulture

[covert dome]

i never saw an official post from CIG saying it was reversed, but it was popular sentiment that the numbers were flipped

so if anything, it was a rumour, if there's substantial information about it somewhere I haven't seen it

[jovial matrix]

You can't make any money doing hand salvage, hand salvage is only useful for repairing things like components/weapons/doors on your own ship while you're out in the field

Last time I tried hand salvage, I made about 1000 credits for 1 and 1/2 to 2 hours of work

[astral leaf]

Anyone with experience in the MOLE can offer some advice? I'm losing my mind trying to detach the Ore Bags in EVA

I've unlocked ports, put landing gear up/down, turned off engiens, cycled power...

It just won't let me pull them off

[astral leaf]

Anyone?

[plain silo]

sigh, I thought hauling was going to be a peacefull life, I was wrong, what relaxing proffesions are there that I can get in to?

[cerulean dove]

Cave hand mining :D

[plain silo]

*that makes decent money

but I tried out pyro with my nomad

[plain silo]

probably gonna either try out renting a raft and going about my life in stanton or try out salvage, which would you say?

is it worth it renting a salvage ship?

[cerulean dove]

Sure, try both. I'm pretty sure you can rent a vulture, which is my preferred salvage ship. Do the unverified salvage missions in Stanton that pays you to salvage

[plain silo]

Is there much difference between the vulture or the fortune?

[cerulean dove]

I've never used the fortune because I hate MISC ships, so I couldn't say from firsthand experience. I have heard people say that the Fortune is better for fracturing and the Vulture is better for scraping but I couldn't tell you why

[plain silo]

I feel like a failed banker🤣 🤣
Tried to risk it and make it big in Pyro and it didn't really work out!!

[cerulean dove]

yeah I avoid pyro for anything that involves going to a settlement, so I only go there for caves & mining

[slate spruce]

If you want a chill experience, rent a Raft and haul in Stanton. If you want big risk, big reward, trade commodities in Pyro.
Salvage has nerfed profits, but it's very chill. Mining is more profitable, but given that there should be a patch dropping in a couple days, I'd avoid anything that involves setting up refinery jobs and waiting to collect them.

[plain silo]

yeah I think I'll just go to chill raft hauling in stanton

and oml I can't wait till they add the night vision to cockpits

[cerulean dove]

yeah, it'll help so much. Can't wait for it to be available for all ships

and hopefully there's going to be some kind of colorblind mode or some other feature to adjust the color

[plain silo]

Also with the new extra space on the RAFT how much and what boxes can it hold?

[slate spruce]

6x 32SCU containers, 192 total. The grid is very versatile, 8x12x2 (so it can also easily hold 8x 24SCU, which is very handy, since outpost elevators can only deal with 24SCU max, and they can deliver up to 4 at one time)

[plain silo]

no 64 SCU containers though?

[slate spruce]

32 is the max container size in game (2x2x8)

[plain silo]

oh okay

thanks

[plucky ridge]

And if you want a baby more agile version you have the Golem OX

[brittle kraken]

I believe you can only pull the bags off with the maxlift for some reason. You can use the multi tool to move them around but not pull them off. Were you using the multitool?

[next idol]

it was on the issue council but its a bit hard to find for some reason\

[covert dome]

Was it confirmed?

[covert dome]

Damn

Good to know

[next idol]

aparently the info in the patches and the game was different

[covert dome]

that’s interesting. But that doesn’t confirm whether the patch or the game is wrong

[next idol]

yeah, they didint say anything about it but its also weird that they just dont come up sayig what is happening

[covert dome]

Could very well be they never updated the patch notes

[covert dome]

Yeah that’s kinda what I meant by complete silence form CIG

nothing official has talked about it

[next idol]

yeah

weird

[covert dome]

they’ve talked about prices but not the actual numbers

very weird for sure

[next idol]

they keep upgrading the prices only but not the %

idk if in this patch the price makes it worth it

[covert dome]

makes me wonder if they’re planning on “fixing it” with the new missions

[next idol]

I think they dont have any idea what they are doing as it seems there is not a clear patch of what to do

[covert dome]

True - hanlon’s razor

[next idol]

there must be a reason why they just dont change the excel file with the %

xd

becuase it really feels like this game loop it waaay behind th eother ones

[covert dome]

it’s also possible that it’s tied to another system and changing the numbers fucked the other codes

[astral leaf]

Nah max. Figured it out. Shields were the issue.

[covert dome]

you never know with game design sometimes

[next idol]

yeah but why the silent

its so weird

[covert dome]

the hopium in me wants to think they’re planning on redoing the whole loop

[next idol]

they launched the new salvage ship with the weird % and also they keep updating salvage loop but thye dont say anything about the %

idk what is happening

maybe they are just that incompetent at communicating

[covert dome]

or the guy who’s in charge of salvage is too stubborn to admit they fucked up

or they have no idea how to fix it and don’t want to seem incompetent lmao

[next idol]

or the guy of charge of salvage itgs already long gone and thye put the janitor in charge

[covert dome]

that’s another thing - if it’s a legacy code issue like that they’re kinda boned

[next idol]

i can imagine its like looking at the pyramid hieroglyphs

[elfin rune]

I cant find any rocks in space, only 2k signatures. Theres no asteroids anymore?

[grand shuttle]

Is there really no cargo ship thats fits 300-500 cargo short of the hull-c, caterpillar, or c2?

[spare cloud]

Not yet. Soon™

[grand shuttle]

Just going to be hull-b? or something else coming?

[cerulean dove]

Probably eventually, but more haulers isn't what this game needs

[severe sentinel]

Maybe it be 15% yield because they will reset the economy and 100k AUEC will become something. I mean you can buy a big ship for 50M if you can make it in 3 or 4 run you are losing a bit of interest

Salvage AUEC are nothing against Fighting mission rewards or other over priced loot stuff

[whole fable]

Every one excited about crafting?

!tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[mild cloud]

Should I look at replacing my vulture with a reclaimer? I mostly run solo but have a crew of 3 I can use on occasion and also have a salvation for small solo stuff

[plucky ridge]

Feels like it will need its own thread.

[cerulean dove]

Vulture isn't really that expensive, no reason you can't just buy it ingame

[mild cloud]

Do you get bigger ships under salvage contracts with the reclaimer?

[spare cloud]

No.

[exotic onyx]

If i store my ship with a bunch of cargo attatched to the grid, does it auto store the cargo in my hold?

[mild pumice]

The cargo will remain on your ship, if it's something the station buys and has demand for then you can sell it and have them unload it for you by paying a small fee

[exotic onyx]

gotcha, thanks for the tip!

[plucky ridge]

Be warned. It can go MIA.

[spare cloud]

Conservation of items through storing and retrieving has always been very reliable

There has been a somewhat common bug recently enough, with cargo disappearing from ships, but storing and retrieving again fixes it. Cargo isn't actually gone, it's just not showing.

[mild cloud]

So how do you get the hammerhead contracts

[mild pumice]

Once you've completed the small and medium ones, the large contracts are unlocked. They did a rebalance recently, I'm not sure if HH is in the pool anymore though.

There's also unverified contracts including the cleanup missions

[plucky ridge]

I have lost commodities a few times in my c2 when store to then try and trade. Maybe these are two separate concerns/issues? I agree, persistence of weapon racks etc have been good. But I’m not commodity trading any more from storing lol

[plucky ridge]

And maybe this is the trick. I’ll give it a go.

I gave up after a few runs. I’ll try up/downing a few times till it shows on commodity vendor lol

[grand shuttle]

so if a ship doesnt say an owner after scan, is it abandoned, or is it just if it says gamerules

[next idol]

I never saw a ship that said gamerules but I guess if it doesn’t say name it’s abandoned

[stray crest]

Hey, i just bought the Argo MOLE ingame, and was quite trilled to take it out and try my luck on some larger rocks. Works quite well with the S2 mininghead. But i noticed that the ship kinda feels out of date regarding engineering and components? Is there any rumour about the ship being worked on for upgrades related to that? Also, will there be like solo size 2 miners in the future? And do the stacked mining bags work somehow? Like, if i detach the mining bags, can i deploy new ones? It says it should carry 24 bags, where 8 are deployed at the same time.

[jovial matrix]

In a recent CIG video they teased a new ship that looks like a variant of the MOLE, most likley for salvage. The MOLE will likely get updated once the new variant comes out, but idk when that'll happen

[fleet totem]

I have a question about cargo. I basically have an Idris full of stims and gold. I went to NB and they won't accept max amounts. Is there a work around or somewhere that will?

[cerulean dove]

go to uex and check how much capacity each location has. Places can only store so much stock of each commodity

[fleet totem]

Ok ty!

[stray crest]

Allright, cool. Thanks! 🙂

[next idol]

Is 4.6 dropping today?

I might give salvage a chance this patch

[crimson mantle]

Sc trade tools shows the cities are a good place for both, except NB 😅

[severe sentinel]

I play Salvage Citizen everyday, don't ask to give a chance to salvage, ask salvage to give you a chance 😉

[fleet totem]

I saw that! Thanks for the heads up! Weird that NB keeps such low inventory

[knotty dove]

hopefuly this is correct location, but anyways: where can i find Decari Pod?

[plain silo]

Where can I rent a drake vulture?

[spare cloud]

Levsky.

[wheat spire]

so i was trying to salvage this retaliator gunship, is there a way to board it? i found an elevator i could shoot open but then it doesnt go back up and i cant seem to catapult myself in

[severe sentinel]

When you destroy the elevator and it goes down, climb on it and repair it, it will go up

[wheat spire]

ohhh thank you

[severe sentinel]

For the Mobil infantry

🫡

[restive bear]

Are there any rumours about the Hermes which indicate it will be anything other than another rear hatch ~200 SCU hauler like the Zeus cl, Asgard, max etc?

[hexed stag]

i need someone to salvage with me idk if this is the right channel to ask

[jovial matrix]

Try #looking-for-session instead

[grand shuttle]

Theres also an airlock on one side. Can you pop that?

[grand shuttle]

No one knows the numbers, but that would be an odd fit because its like 4x larger in volume over even the asgard.

[wheat spire]

didnt have anyh luck with that

[restive bear]

Ah ok, so maybe plugging a gap below the C2

[next idol]

thye really need to get better at hauling ships

it feels liek is design firtsa nd then utility

mainly the doors for the cargo

it should be easy to take in and out boxes from the ship

[grand shuttle]

I mean, this is very much a thing in real life too. Its why container ships were such a huge revolution in the shipping industry. Prior to that you had a large workforce dedicated to loading/unloading cargo. Now its like 2-3 guys on a huge crane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containerization#Effects

[pearl juniper]

this is why the raft is the best cargo ship.

[next idol]

yeah it is

[obtuse flower]

So i haven't done much mining since the new update. I noticed that the refined ore is greatly reduced

Did they increase the value of things?

[grand shuttle]

yes

[grand shuttle]

Whats best for solo mining? Golem, Prospector, or Mole?

[winged niche]

are there any mining groups?

mining and cargo would be sick

[near swallow]

Any of those will work. The Mole can handle larger rocks then the others, with a proper setup, and can also be a bit more versatile, so it's my main choice. But I do also have a Golem, and in fact my Mole isn't a pledge ship, while the Golem is. (So after a wipe, I'll partly be using the Golem to make money to get back ships like my Mole. Unless I have an Arrastra by then.)

Downside, using the Mole means seat hopping a lot.

One thing that the Golem can do, is fit in a C2. So, you could carry a Golem and a bunch of spare bags, and do a bunch of mining without going back to base. Doing the same with a Mole would require a pilot for the cargo ship carrying the extra bags.

Note that there may be a patch as soon as Wednesday, and if and when it happens, it will wipe out refinery jobs in progress.

[grand shuttle]

im kind of split on that. I have nowhere enough money in game for a c2 yet, and my playing circumstances mean being able to bed log is a strong point

thats part of the reason I like the mole too, as it can carry more than one set of bags worth of ore in one go, right?

or am I misunderstanding how those spare bags work?

[winged niche]

CAN WE BUILD OUR OWN BASE?

[near swallow]

Not yet

[near swallow]

The Mole technically carries 3 sets of bags. But you can't use the other two sets yet.

[grand shuttle]

ah

[near swallow]

And you'd need to offload a set of bags somewhere to use another set

Which means you'd want a friend

Arrastra will be a game changer, because it is a mining ship with onboard refining.

Orion too, though that I think is going to be much bigger.

[grand shuttle]

id expect orion to be in the 30million + range like the reclaimer

I def want a miner to prep for crafting, but im also tempted to save up auec for the new salvager

[delicate girder]

Three sets of bags? Never knew that. Is that like like two more sets deflated bags which are in place when the full ones are detached?

[near swallow]

Above each active bag, there are two more in a collapsed state. Haven't tested lately, but on a previous patch I found out you could remove them and attach them in place of the expanded bag, but the ship's listed capacity goes down. I think at one time collapsed bags were, possibly by accident, buyable on PTU as well.

I think the Prospector is supposed to have the same feature, but I'm not sure if it has the bags yet. The Mole bags I think were added a while back. (After 3.2 I think, but maybe before 4.0 Not entirely sure when.)

[pearl juniper]

Around 4.2 ish you could attach regular bags in place of the collapsed bags and get at 192scu capacity mole. Mined a lot of tin that way for supply or die

[near swallow]

I'd forgotten about that, I did not use that little exploit

[near swallow]

Decided to take a pic of the bags since we were talking about them. You can't remove them right now, but you can see the little white "feet" on the bottom of the two bags on the left and on the bottom of the active bag on the right.

[grand shuttle]

Hermes info leaked, and its seems a little underwhelming. CIG seams really reluctant to release a real mid-capacity hauler.

[next idol]

How much was the scu capacity?

[grand shuttle]

288, but they gave it a tiny door to prevent it loading a nursa

cargo grid/bay is also split into 2

tractor on rail also doesnt go the whole way out of ship

grid is also 3 scu high

[next idol]

Why they keep doing. That omg

[grand shuttle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1qo67kx/rsi_hermes_ingame_interior_tour/

[next idol]

They never saw a irl truck before o r what?

[grand shuttle]

I think people have decided that they have nerfed the loading capabilities on ships like the zeus cl and now the hermes to prevent people from parking an ursa medevac on board. Since a hermes/zeus/etc with a nursa on board basically obviate the need for medical ships like the apollo or the cutty red.

[next idol]

They should just change how that vehicle operates es use its dumb to have your whole ships lineup being influenced in a negative way just because of a ground vehicle that is not even being used correctly

[long frost]

You can fit almost 300 scu inside (if you're a masochist) and not fitting a nursa makes it ridiculous

I love the look of the chassis but neither version (medical or cargo) justifies owning one rn for me

[keen garden]

The only real issue the mole has is in a location with weather, you need a pilot to keep the laser heads in an optimal range. But you can sidestep that by doing asteroid mining

I’ll instead just be running a prospector

I don’t really care for asteroid mining, I want clusters of rocks

[grand shuttle]

there is always mining on airless or almost airless moons for that

I kind of want them to do a refresh on the mole before I get one. From the various video reviews its interior looks needlessly complicated and roughly done.

[keen garden]

There aren’t many wind-less moons in Stanton afaik

Cellin? But every time I’ve gone there every other rock cluster has cracked rocks it feels like

Eh, guess there’s 4

Yela celin lyra and wala

So there’s stuff for me to do in the mole in Stanton

[spare cloud]

Yela ? You can breathe there

Do you just mean low atmosphere ?

[keen garden]

Low yea

One that won’t push you around in the mole

[hearty trail]

im going to try Solo Mole mining after about 3 months, can some one suggest a load out please?

[keen garden]

Helix up front, hofstead and impact on the back is my setup

Helix usually starts out with 2 reiger and a focus, then the first big rock I hit that needs surges I end up with 3 surges for the rest of the night

[hearty trail]

cool, many thanks

[keen garden]

Doesn’t matter too much what the impact and hofstead has on it, they’re for smaller rocks after the first break

Usually run at least one focus on each, with reigers

I also tend to not touch small rocks, unless I’m topping off the bags after mining a big rock

Moving the ship around eats a lot of time

[hearty trail]

k, ty again

[mild cloud]

Question about SC trade tools, if I do a trade route, the green uec value is that the profit per leg or the price you sell for?

[grand shuttle]

green in middle is profit per leg, sell/buy prices are to either side

[grand shuttle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1qow4t5/let_me_introduce_you_to_galaxy_with_its_cargo/
this one is funny

[mortal plinth]

is there a go to cheap starter hauler?

[brittle kraken]

The mole is around 3 mil and can be rented. It hold 192 SCU and is very easy to load

Hull A is also around 2 mil and holds 64 SCU and is also very easy to load

[mortal plinth]

mkay

thanks

am i looking at the wrong ship cause the wiki is telling me 8mil for the mole? outdated?

[near swallow]

Raft is the hauler, Mole is a miner

[mortal plinth]

thx

man its looks so much cooler than the HULL 💀

[near swallow]

Raft is best in class, especially buying in game, because it got a capacity boost but it's price hasn't gone up.

[mortal plinth]

what would you say the timeline for ROI would be with the raft? I can afford it but its basically my entire bank

[obtuse flower]

i'd say it depends on how you use it

[near swallow]

I really couldn't say, I get a lot of my money from mining and salvage, and don't try to track aUEC by hour. By trip/job it varies a lot.

[mortal plinth]

mmm

i either wanna get a hualing ship or save two mill for a fmc hornet II

but geting the hauler first will probably be better in the long run for my wallet

[near swallow]

There are multiple ways you can go with hauling. Covalex is Stanton based, but low rank missions tend to be 50-90k each. Redwind has higher paying missions, but you have to go into Pyro to do some of them.

You can stack multiple missions though, just means more boxes to load and unload.

[mortal plinth]

is there a way to pick up more than one box at a time?

[near swallow]

Multiple people

[mortal plinth]

fair lol

[olive gull]

The RAFT is only 3m and best cargo ship of its size

[mortal plinth]

yeah i think im convinced

ive been doing mostly FPS and space combat i wanna mix it up

[near swallow]

Haulers are also useful for mining and salvage gameplay. For mining, you haul the refined ores to market. For salvage missions, you can offload cargo (from ships that have it) and potentially components from some ships before starting salvage.

[restive bear]

Just to chip in, stacking and chaining missions is definitely the way. If you enjoy that aspect of the logistics you can really optimise routes and drop offs / loads. You just have to be really careful to keep different mission boxes separate

It’s probably my favourite loop in the game, but it takes a spreadsheet and an ATLS!

[olive gull]

try interstellar hauling, its... interesting and well paid.

on the un-verified side, the Dead Saints.

[grand shuttle]

Obligatory: Raft is King

Also going to point out that a hauler is good for salvaging too, as otherwise you are running to maket for every ship load which is probably not really needful.

[mild cloud]

I've always preferred the asgard to the raft

My question is should I CCU my shic to a hermes, seems like a good in and out ship but does the extra 42 m/s make it worth not just running the asgard

[limpid sluice]

Haven't seen it myself yet, but the Hermes door/ramp seems a bit small. Especially compared to the Asgard

[sour folio]

Yeh this. I think its got the same ramp as the Zeus MK2. I don't personally see it as a huge reason not to buy it though, If you currently have a Zeus MK2 CL I think the Hermes is literally the perfect upgrade, I think the turret can also be controlled by the pilot (from what I've seen on a video)

[olive gull]

meh, i would stay with Asgard, far easier to load/unload, had yet seen the Hermes's tiny door?

[mild cloud]

So can we no longer scavange components

[limpid sluice]

Why are you replying to me for that?

Not related at all to the conversation

[mild cloud]

Accident on the phone

[royal spear]

Hmm Hermes sits in a really nice space at 288scu. And is a surprisingly nice ship considering what a mess the Apollo was

[rancid sleet]

Do we have any miners in the house?

Sorry, what I meant was are there any mining corporations out there?

[astral leaf]

Id love to find one too. especially if they were west coast. But I have a differetn question. How do you start the enw mining and salvage missions?

Are they only in Pyro?

[astral leaf]

Anyone?

[astral leaf]

???

[next idol]

It’s the patch out? How salvage feels?

I’m still working: (

[limpid sluice]

If you mean this...

[astral leaf]

So it didn't come in 4.6?

@limpid sluice So it didn't come in this initial patch?

[astral leaf]

@limpid sluice Dude, I'm kinda new and have seen so much conflicting information on this, I'm just trying to get clarification.

[limpid sluice]

I literally just posted the note saying it's in a 4.6.x patch

[astral leaf]

And I simply asked a clarifying question to which you posted a snark ass picture. My guy, not sure what bs is going on in your life to make you an auto-prick, but maybe go kick a puppy or something?

[limpid sluice]

Or just read things?

[astral leaf]

oR jUsT rEaD tHiNgS.

[limpid sluice]

See, that's why that sticker exists lol

[next idol]

[quartz crow]

I got blessed with a bunch of processed food that seems to be too big to call from my elevator and I can't sell it at A18, do I need to rent a bigger ship so I can get a bigger hangar to get rid of it?

[next idol]

you can divide it sending it more times

but yeah, bigger hangar bigger the elevator

[quartz crow]

wait divide it by doing what now

[next idol]

oh sorry I mean call the elevator multiple times

[quartz crow]

It doesn't even show in the elevator terminal

hmm the tdd terminal is giving me internal error but only when I try to sell medical supplies

[next idol]

maybe they count as stolen?

or maybe its a bug

[quartz crow]

nm the food is showing up maybe I'm high

[quartz crow]

How does calling the elevator multiple time split commodity cargo

[near swallow]

If the cargo is too big for the elevator not because of container size but because of stack size, right click it in the freight elevator and you can split the stack.

[quartz crow]

I might not be able to get rid of these they're a bunch of giant 32scu containers of processed food and they make my taurus glitch through the hangar and it won't let me stack them on top of each other

[near swallow]

Taurus can't carry multiple 32 SCU containers stacked on top of each other

At least properly

[quartz crow]

wtf it can stack other boxes like 3 high same height box

[near swallow]

When it comes to the cargo grid, Taurus can handle 2 32 SCU boxes

[quartz crow]

wack

[near swallow]

The cargo grid is 3 SCU high

[quartz crow]

should I rent a raft or what

[near swallow]

Raft's got a better cargo grid

Raft's grid is designed around 32 SCU boxes, just one layer, but you can use the full 192 SCU

[quartz crow]

didn't it just go way up in price

[near swallow]

On the pledge store it did, not in game

It got a major buff a bit back

[quartz crow]

o sweet

[near swallow]

Raft is best in class, and only 3.4 mil at Lorville

[next idol]

for what it gives its not expensive in game

easy the only ship really well done for hauling

[quartz crow]

Is there anything with even bigger cargo that's rentable? Idk how many of the 32scus I have it's like mutliple pages in my inv

[next idol]

is it really worth the paint to dop all that? haha

also depending how you got them they might count as stolen anyways so you need to sell it only at specific palces

[quartz crow]

Actually I think it might all fit on a raft

[next idol]

its amazing how this game evey time after an update it fucks my acocunt and i need to reset character

im getting the time out message

[quartz crow]

ok so it's srsly like 75 32scu containers of processed food

uex says 1542, I guess that means for 1scu? So I might have 3.7 mil worth of food that popped into my inv with this patch?

I already sold another 6.75mil worth of a bunch of other random commodities and this is the last batch, they're just too big

[next idol]

Maybe someone with a hull c can give it to you?

[quartz crow]

I'm considering buying a raft since that's more than what they're worth I'm just making sure I did the math right

getting rid of these will pay for it but idk how many 32's a raft can hold and how many trips it'll take

like 13 trips haha oof

[hearty girder]

how hard is the cargo stuff for the current event ? i have the conny taurus and i have never done cargoe before

[long frost]

hermes has got 3 scu high grid right?

[brittle kraken]

2 grids that are 2 high, 4 wide, 18 long

[near swallow]

Nope, perfectly sized for 8 SCU boxes.

[long frost]

Nice

[near swallow]

http://sc-cargo.space

[long frost]

Saw the evenlease review of the hermes, so I guess I have to change my opinion lol

[near swallow]

That site apparently is where our fit charts came from

It seems to me, from the video I saw, that they widened the rear entry area

[long frost]

Yes they did

[near swallow]

Either that or the video just didn't depict it well. Still won't fit a Nursa though.

[long frost]

It fits up to cyclone size vehicles

[near swallow]

With the wheels on

[vestal ravine]

That ship can hold a fair amount of cargo it should work okay.

[austere canyon]

I heard a bird sing about cig widening the rear entry on the Hermes? Is that true?

And if yes. Can I put a nursa in the back of it yet

[verbal tangle]

Y'all are so obsessed with that one vehicle in your cargo ship. What are you doing on cargo runs that a med Ursa is required?

[severe sentinel]

Medbay

And free food and drink

But I'm agree that's seems a little strange for a hauler

I put one into my reclaimer but salvaging is some time dangerous when people are still in the wreck

[hearty girder]

thanks is the small pyro multi tool with the the attachment that lets me move stuff around good enough or do i need the bigger rifle sized version of that iyo for moving cargo on my connie taurus

[verbal tangle]

That's the point I'm making. Hauling you always have very easy access to medical, food, and water, and you cant really use the free cause you earn so much more money than those expenses will cost. For the use purpose designed for it, it blows my mind the number of people upset / generally dissing on it for the one very specific restriction of not having room for a medical Ursa. Bunker running, salvage, high end PvE like PAF, AaM, QV, ASD I can see the argument? But cargo really doesn't need it in my experience.

But I wasn't sure if I'm missing one niche catch all where a medical bay in a cargo hauler has legit gains from it. Cause the only scenario I could think of is crashing for respawn, but I was pretty sure the Ursa would break too.

[severe sentinel]

That the point if you are going to be hurt in hauling, your ship will blow before you

And you loose what is important with a hauler -> cargo space for nothing

Maybe people saw it like mini C2 or Clad

Idk

[verbal tangle]

Yeah, and if you're legitimately doing any content where I would say an medursa is a legit benefit, probably also doing content where the Hermes is not an ideal ship to bring.

[jolly dagger]

yoo what is the best location for mining with a MISC Prospector?

[vestal ravine]

What I do is wear medium armor and backpack minimum and get Maxlift rifle asap and I carry the handheld one in the backpack.

[verbal tangle]

I mean, ships don't really have dedicated best locations; the question to ask is "what am I trying to mine?" And then find where to mine that.

[jolly dagger]

ahh ok then ill ask that

[vestal ravine]

Cellin and Wala have Quantanium it's the highest payout especially on the Grey market.

[upbeat prawn]

is the Carrack more useful for hauling than a StarMax?

actually maybe I'll wait for salvage mole and make the StarMax into that instead of jumping to Galaxy.
nvm

[hidden sky]

do the hauling missions for the events eventually get bigger? is it like the more small I do I work my way up to bigger contracts?

[upbeat prawn]

someone shared a 288scu alliance aid mission in chat a few minutes ago

[hidden sky]

Oh cool

Thanks

[verbal tangle]

This sounds very suspiciously like a Hermes quest specifically lmao

[upbeat prawn]

sorry it was 292, the person was complaining that it was MORE Than their Hermes

but you can just stuff hte hallway...

[hidden sky]

is there a light switch for these big ole blinders in the hermes?

[keen garden]

Imo, the best role for a prospector to fill for a solo miner is mining places where the mole doesn’t work as well solo, such as planets/moons with weather

Calliope is my go to, because it’s near microtech which is near mic-L2

Cellin is the most popular, but… every time I go there I run into already broken rocks so I tend to avoid it

[jolly dagger]

bet thanks for the info i appreaciate it alot

[sour folio]

man hauling in the hermes was such a breeze compared to the Zeus

[agile oyster]

The golem fits in the Asgard with 10 extra bags!

[drowsy kettle]

yo can anyone get mining contracts?

ive done the introduction one yesterday, and since i have only gotten a single hand mining contract available once, all morning not a single mining contract has appeared for me

[cerulean dove]

I'm 99% sure they aren't in this patch, but are coming when the salvage mole releases

[cerulean delta]

As someone who has done very little mining, where should I go to get Laranite and Ice for Alliance Aid missions ?

[agile oyster]

I would do bexalite/laranite and Borase I’m finding a decent amount of all 3 on wala

[cerulean delta]

Thank you. I will check out Wala.. can I do it using a mole or should I use a smaller ship if I'm solo ?

[agile oyster]

I’m using my golem with extra bags in my c2 the rocks are not too big
You can use the mole if you want more room for ore

[cerulean delta]

Thank you.

[agile oyster]

Np
And only do the small contract for maximum points you only need 50 scu to get the the final contract doing the 3SCU contract

[humble merlin]

Is there a way to combine complete work orders? Or does it just scrap whatever extra that can't make a full SCU?

[verbal tangle]

I think it actually rounds up as a courtesy

I havent actually paid attention to it, but i think it rounds up to the next one scu

Cause there were orders I did where it should have been like 30.2 and I swear I walked away with 31

[random patrol]

It always rounds up.

[plucky ridge]

Can you partial turn in delivery contracts for the event?

[tired meteor]

[regal tide]

How do I get auto deliver to the HULL C?

[regal tide]

Did you have to manually unload those to Levski?

[regal tide]

how did you pick that up in the first place i'm not understanding

[tired meteor]

no other way around atm

gotta take it all to port tress

[regal tide]

I*m at my pick up spot in Stanton with my Hull C how do I load it?

[tired meteor]

uh

you doing the same quest?

[regal tide]

YEs

[tired meteor]

the pickup is at levski in nyx for this

[regal tide]

my is pickup at Stanton to Levski

[tired meteor]

and this place dont have a auto loader like port tress does

[regal tide]

How do I get the cargo?

[tired meteor]

if your tracking the quest you should beable to focus on the pickup loaction via the quest drop down once you zoom out to secter view from ship mapping

in the map

[regal tide]

I have never used the HUll C before how do I load the cargo onto it in Stanton since they do not have space freight lifts?

[tired meteor]

if not read the quest details for the pickup point

idk where/what kind of place santon is offhand swore that was a planet name

oh thats the system

[tired meteor]

show me your quest

[regal tide]

the only freight lifts are in hangers so how do I load up the cargo?

[tired meteor]

when your near it. does it have a cargo comms channel in the comms tab on ship panels?

[regal tide]

oh that is the peice of info I needed

[tired meteor]

if so use that and get a cargo loader point then it will auto load it for you

[regal tide]

Oh shit they do have space freight lifts

[regal tide]

how do you collect from a planet with the hull C do they give you a blue box?

[tired meteor]

heheh

[regal tide]

I guess that is a no

what ship can load that much cargo from a hanger from a planet?

[tired meteor]

hull c

[regal tide]

How? it can't land when the cargo plats are deployed

[tired meteor]

a ship to board it with and it left in vtol in hanger with spindles out

[regal tide]

So you jump out with out dying lol

[tired meteor]

death or no death you should still spawn in the location med

unless you somehow manage a full death rather then nocked

[regal tide]

I was able to auto unload at levski

[tired meteor]

👀

Where

[regal tide]

I just called the Cargo comms the same in stanton

gave me a blue box

[tired meteor]

damm i must not have been in the right spot

my ship is stuck in the hanger rn cuz it stored it for being left in the cargopoint unmanned to long

i dont like useing the tracter beams

like my maxlift more

feels like shipbreakers

[mild pumice]

Is it just me of have they done something to tractor beams and generally cargo handling, it seems more erratic (not just performance) and scrolling seems really slow or moves in burst/like rubber banding

[bitter ferry]

I'm guessing all the Borase/Bexalite/Laranite has already been strip-mined off the servers since it doesn't appear -anywhere-

[grand shuttle]

Have you checked the halo?

[bitter ferry]

I could try the Aaron Belt next time aye, not a bad idea

[covert dome]

are the new salvage missions in the game yet?

[grand shuttle]

they are in the patch but not enabled yet i think

[covert dome]

i see

[severe sentinel]

One of my mate have done the first Adagio contract

But no more appears next

I search for it yesterday but I didn't find it neither Nyx or Pyro

(I didn’t look into Stanton because of the wrongful conviction I’m a victim of in that system.)

[cloud glacier]

loading 4SCU boxes to Titan is a pain

[covert dome]

Interesting

[verbal tangle]

Well that would be because I think by design you're not supposed to? Pretty sure titan officially classified as max size 2scu

So while you might be able to make it fit, its not designed.

[cloud glacier]

it's a 4x2 space, so why wouldn't it take a 2x2 box

[verbal tangle]

For the same reason a clipper isn't designed for a 4

Just because the grid fits it doesn't mean the ship is designed for it functionally.

Cant even fit a s4 SCU box up a clipper ramp, into a 3x2x2 grid

[cloud glacier]

the biggest problem is that the ship starts bouncing around like crazy. if it stayed still, it would be a lot easier

[verbal tangle]

Certain ships just aren't functionally designed for certain crate sizes. Its entirely intentional. You might be able to fit it, but if its not designed for it you're gonna have a bad time.

[cloud glacier]

taking them out was easy though

[next idol]

hope the reclaimer rework bring a new paint, idk how they managed to do such ugly paints for the ship

[agile oyster]

The RS signature is messed up for ship mineable rocks you can’t identify gems from rocks and the different rock types by the RS anymore

[atomic mortar]

I have a hard time keeping up with the long-term plans of the game, but could someone tell me if the goal is for us to ALWAYS have to manually load cargo in the future, or if we will be able to pay for automatic cargo loading?

For example if I just wanted to haul some cargo on my own, and I'm in a BMM or Ironclad or whatever, would I be able to pay extra for it to be auto loaded for me instead of me doing it for a few hours

[olive gull]

manually loading cargo is fun, they said,
manually loading cargo is realistic, they said.
physicalized stuff is fun, they said.

[spare cloud]

You should always be able to have your stuff automatically loaded for all ships you can store.

For a fee of course, as it is already right now.

[severe sentinel]

Just the rework would be a huge progress, don't know if we gonna see it one day

But the actual paint are awful you right

[mild cloud]

Where should I set my home location for 4.6? If I'm planning on hauling for the event?

[spare cloud]

Not Pyro I guess.

[verbal tangle]

Probably Levski, Babbage, or Area 18 in order of relevance to the event. Babbage would be primary for Stanton from what I've seen so far.

[olive gull]

set your home location anywhere you want, then go to Babbage and set it as your Spawn location, easy
remeber that after the event you wont be able to change your default location until the next big patch

[regal tide]

Is there away to call for a hanger over a docking station for the Hull C?

[marsh briar]

Just trying to get into mining. After I mine I go to a refinery and I can choose to sell the raw material or have it refined further which makes me in some instances wait quite awhile

As a beginner should I just sell raw material first?

Is it worthwhile to wait for example 20+ hours in some instances?

[random patrol]

Why would you go through all the work to just sell the unrefined ore?

[marsh briar]

idk I just bought into the game yesterday

so if I refine the material should I sell it right then and there or do I have to haul it to another location?

[random patrol]

First off welcome to the game! In some instances you can see the ore at the same station.

The only time I sell unrefined ore is when there is leftover junk in the ore pods...Titanium or inert materials etc

[tall sand]

Are the new mining missions rare ? And are they only in stanton ?

[regal tide]

does any one know if you can turn in boxes for a mission that might be floating in space or is each pick up tagged to that mission only?

[random patrol]

The aid missions?

[tall sand]

No the new mining missions from shubin

got one yesterday, and didn't get any today

[random patrol]

I ran a few earlier to lorville and babbage...delivered ore

I thought they were the same

[tall sand]

Okay cuz im in pyro and i'm not having them, i only got 1 yesterday and that's it

sadge

[regal tide]

THis game just sucks at times the auto unloader won't work just keep saying not to move and the ship isn't

[olive gull]

hull C is the most broken and bugged ship in the game, CIG hasnt shown any intention to fix it,.

[regal tide]

omg and it despawned never again

How are we to even do these events when the game is bugged. Nothing works right. ends up being a waste of anyone's time

[near swallow]

Actually the Hull C's auto loading/unloading functionality actually got some improvements, though not entirely sure when.

[olive gull]

tell that to @regal tide xD he may disagree with your statement

[near swallow]

Can do better then tell, here it is in action:
https://youtu.be/pWSfdhABC3U?si=xm1VHtpC4oOZun6-

[drowsy kettle]

ive got a question, im mining laranite for the event mission, but they will probably turn into larger scu crates, is there a way to make the station turn the refining order into 1, 2 or 4 scu crates? and if i cant will the "deliver 4scu of laranite" consume an entire 16 scu crate per contract?

[near swallow]

If you put more Laranite on the elevator then is needed for the mission, the extra will get put into smaller boxes and stored in the warehouse.

[drowsy kettle]

thanks

[near swallow]

Something that I did earlier today was do a 4 SCU job with an 8 SCU box, then raise the 4 SCU box I got as change, re-took the mission, and sent the elevator back down again. 🙂

[random patrol]

Im glad they have it setup this way

[near swallow]

Supply or Die worked the same way

[drowsy kettle]

i dont really do cargo events, but the crafting machine must be mine

[random patrol]

The mining is a cakewalk

[near swallow]

They'll probably be available in other ways, but this one will be branded

[drowsy kettle]

it will be account linked right?

[near swallow]

The other rewards have been (aka show up in My Hangar on the website) so it should be, and thus wipe proof

[drowsy kettle]

more then enough reason to get it

[near swallow]

It obviously won't actually be distributed until crafting goes in though

[drowsy kettle]

hopefully in march when the events over, who knows could be longer though

what i want to see is if the crafting missions will actually be worth it

[near swallow]

If I can make myself stuff like the S71, that you can't just go and buy, then that would be pretty cool

[drowsy kettle]

i want rarer blueprints for ship components and weapons, honestly hate going to contested zones, even if they are cool but yknow, solo player

[near swallow]

Technically there has actually been a very simple form of crafting for quite a while though. Salvage ships can craft some salvage related items, including the multi-tool and attachments.

[drowsy kettle]

hold the fuck on

did they nerf ferron exchange?

[random patrol]

everythn is nerfed

[drowsy kettle]

oh fuck off seriously???

[random patrol]

yeah

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[drowsy kettle]

these were all 30+ scu holds

[random patrol]

you get maybe 1/2

[drowsy kettle]

half.

so mining which already isnt that good just had its profits slashed in half

did they adjust commodity prices aswell?

[random patrol]

the prices went up

yields down

[drowsy kettle]

by how much?

[random patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/meonly-gif-19710542

youd have to check on UEX

[drowsy kettle]

okay i remember quant being like 20-25k and uex says its now 85k

[random patrol]

yeah plus you can get more on the private market for quant

[drowsy kettle]

there is a market for it now?

i remember trying to sell quant a wipe or so ago and not a single buyer, mabye its time to go back

[random patrol]

yeah....polaris bits

wikelo stuff

[near swallow]

I sold some quant earlier, got over 500k.

They reduced the yield and boosted prices, in order to make smaller cargo ships more viable.

[random patrol]

speakin of quant

217 scu rock with 30% quant

54k mass

[near swallow]

Need a crewed Mole at the least, or multiple ships

[random patrol]

yeah im doing aid mining so im not even bothering

[near swallow]

I was doing some mining too, but having found a Quant rock I could mine, I did. I also cracked a 237 SCU rock with Borase. (29k or so mass) Had to use my Helix II + Reiger C3 x3 laser for the first time.

Got 87 SCU of raw Borase to refine. Down into like 30 something SCU.

[random patrol]

still a good amount

[near swallow]

Be fine for selling, (since prices went up) but not as great for the event.

Though I could just do small jobs

[random patrol]

yeah just keep repeating them

[near swallow]

Yeah, I did that with 12 SCU of Larinite. One other potential issue though, is that some things (Bexalite) mean going to NB. And NB is likely to be buggy as heck on every shard for a while.

[regal tide]

it's just hanging there? improvements?

[near swallow]

Not sure what you're talking about, and I'm not saying there aren't bugs, but the system can now access buried cargo by removing cargo as needed to get to the buried cargo and then, at the end, re-loading all the removed cargo.

[regal tide]

I would love to see that doesn't do that for me. It sounds amazing on paper for sure

[near swallow]

In the video I linked above, you can see it happen

[regal tide]

how do I get it to work?

I have a full load in the Hull C i'm at Levski and it's not unloading

[near swallow]

Try getting out of your seat and getting back in

[regal tide]

did that

[near swallow]

Don't fly a Hull C myself, so I don't know all the bug workarounds, but that particular one I have seen. Oh, and not sure about 4.6, but in 4.5 commodity trading automatic unloading was broken. For that you had to manually unload.

Captain Deadwake (on Youtube) is the Hull C guy

[regal tide]

I'm just sitting here waiting for it to unload doesn't do anything

[near swallow]

That I'm not really sure what to do about

As I said, I don't fly the Hull C myself

[regal tide]

OMG thank god I tried it 4 times and it finally is unloading

if I were to guess those blue boxes can't have anything else in them the ones I was going into had cargo boxes just floating in space

[hearty girder]

i have a connie taurus, any tips on my first cargo run which also happens to be the event cargo missions?

i got the pisto and rifle sized handheld tractor beams

should i just take one mission at a time or bundle a few

[spiral geode]

anyone trying to run some salavge with me

[olive gull]

bundle them

[hearty girder]

ok thanks

[mild cloud]

So it's been a couple days, hermes yes or no if I have an asgard

[olive gull]

i would go with Asgard 100%, so Hermes is pretty but nothing out of ordinary, cant fit big vehicles... therefore its a Nope.

[floral lichen]

am I a doofus or is SRV broken when towing in quantum?

[mild cloud]

Well the no big vehicle thing was deliberate marketing decision. If the hermes could fit a nursa everyone would just straight up melt their Apollos

[gaunt jacinth]

Hi guys, I am new to mining and about to reach 1mil from renting out the prospector and astorid mining. Should I get a little more for the Drake Golem? or should I save up a lot more for the MISC Prospector

[plain silo]

Generally what is the best industrial profession to make money with and how? e.g. Hauling- Commodity trading or Salvage

[next idol]

I would say hauling? Mainly because it’s very straightforward

[plain silo]

Would you say commodity trading or contracts?

[next idol]

Contracts. As I don’t think there is that much difference but contracts if anything happen you don’t lose the money (bugs mainly)

[plain silo]

Would you reccomend stellar or planetary or interstellar?

[next idol]

Now we have divided so I don’t now too much the difference between them. I guess start the small planetary ones as you need to get reputation with the hailing company to get the better deals that you can do with bigger ships.

Just don’t get anything that your ship can’t handle in 1 trip

[plain silo]

So do contracts become more lucrative the more rep you have bc atm commodity trading seems to be better?

[snow oasis]

The money is kinda bad I feel

In a full c2 my profits vs time are not that great

[grand frigate]

So guys what is the general opinion about the Hermès for solo hauling ?
Especially compared to the RAFT as with warbond there's only a 10$ difference between the 2

[snow oasis]

It’s pretty good

[grand frigate]

Because except the back door a little small I wonder if i should upgrade my RAFT for the Hermes

[cold arrow]

People have been able to fit a nursa in the hermes - you can't get out out again aside from claiming the hermes but if that changes your mind, loading cargo isn't too bad either.

[plain silo]

Where can I sell ship parts at Lorville, if not Lorville where in general?

[olive gull]

in general, you can sell a item on any store that sells items of such type,

• sell ship modules at any Ship Modules Store like Platinum Bay.
• sell FPS weapons and armors at any store who sells those.

[plain silo]

well I upgraded my ship and wondering if I can sell the old components

[olive gull]

Be aware that ingame stores will charge you, lets say 1m for a thing but will buy same thing for only a fraction of the value, like 10% or less, yeah, i know! CIG made it like that, idk why

[elfin rune]

Anyone having issues with refinery orders? Mine doest work at all

[plain silo]

What would you recommend instead, salvage or mining?

[olive gull]

looks like RMC and CMC prices are as lame as the last patch... stay running cargo.

[tired meteor]

gonna go find some bex

[atomic mortar]

How do we automatically load cargo onto our ships? Is it only possible for commodity trading, and not for contracts where they want you to haul cargo?

[tired meteor]

contact atc cargo tower when in range of station

dont know if it works for ships other then the hull c

[spare cloud]

For trading, if the ship is stored, there's the option on the terminal you can select for it.

Don't ever select it if it isn't stored.

For hauling, only the Hull-C can have auto loading atm, and it will likely be going away rather than be generalised for other ships.

[elfin rune]

Anyone having issues starting refinery orders? Mine doesnt work

[cyan harness]

first time miner here what do you reccomend to put on the MOLE for laser and attatchments?

[elfin rune]

I have hoffstede, helix and impact. Module wise i have rieger c3 and focus. And some surges in backpack just in case i find a big rock. Gadgets i use sabir and boremax

But youll find your setup when you have some experience

[plain silo]

How much does it cost ish?

Also what’s better for money making, contracts or commodity trading?

[spare cloud]

Atm, hauling. Trading isn't worth the risks for what it pays.

[snow oasis]

Friend of mine has been doing mining, profits seem fairly good

[plain silo]

Hmmmm, for trading however how do I find which resources are best to sell?

[spare cloud]

!cargo

[jolly dagger]

Resources for cargo trading

These websites can be used for finding/planning trade routes, simulating trade prices, and more:

1. SC Trade Tools
2. United Express Corp (UEX)
3. Galactic Logistics

Also check out the #industrial-professions channel for questions about cargo running, recommended ships, etc

[plain silo]

Which website is your preferred?

[gleaming thorn]

anyone know where i can get a surge module. cstone isnt showing any shops with them

[spare cloud]

Levsky.

[hoary monolith]

Is there anyplace to sell refined ore without going to a planet's surface?

[spare cloud]

Not Gallog.

[spare cloud]

Use the sites on the embed above.

[plain silo]

How come for Adagio Holdings nothing comes up for rep?

[blissful flume]

Have anyone use a hull c on the event and does it work decently

[keen garden]

Those missions aren’t out yet

[keen garden]

There’s not much reason to, the reward balance favors doing the smalllest mission possible

Unless maybe you’re transporting a large amount of pressurized ice to sell to players

[sharp swift]

what/where is the keybind option called to control the hermes tractor beam?

[plain silo]

I'm thinking of getting a salvage ship, should I go for the fortune or the vulture?

[sharp swift]

Have you salvaged before? I'd recommend the Salvation if not so you can get a feel for the gameloop.

Other than that, there is a medium salvage we expect to come out in the upcoming months, so patience might serve you well. If you're purchasing w/ aUEC, I think either the Vulture or Fortune is fine, I prefer the Vulture for its speed and the Fortune for it accomodating my laziness

[sour folio]

The default is "s"

[keen garden]

of the two, i prefer the fortune

i don't like the vulture's dual head controls, fortune is just simple, and feels just like being in a prospector, same cockpit

also works in an idris a bit better

[long frost]

are the new mining/salvage contracts not in yet?

like shubin and adagio

[gray sierra]

hey if anyone has high level rep missions for covolex wanting to share rep happy to pay back money im at member not sure how the thing for stopping juniors from doing experiences missions works yeah but that

[elfin rune]

Really the only place to buy surge module its levsky?

[lime vessel]

!itemfinder

[jolly dagger]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to obtain them) in-game.

[lime vessel]

@elfin rune Check on it

[elfin rune]

Lol not sold anywhere

Ive just bought 12

@lime vessel ty anyway

[plain silo]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh so I just put my cargo on an elevator, went to send it down and it all disappeared... anything I can do or is it just lost to the void bc I was just starting to get into the big bucks with crago hauling and if everythings gone I am back down to 1,000,000 aUEC.

[coarse ember]

try checking the other elevators, sometimes it visually fucks it up and you need to switch elevators, if it did fully disappear into the void tho i got plenty of pressurized ice for you to run the 548k (60scu) alliance aid transport missions and get your money back up

if you need the ice just ping me or something and if you can rent something that'll hold 2-4 32scu crates since i'm tryng to get rid of it now that i'm done the rewards

that also applies for anyone else looking for ice, rn i got a stockpile of 1,336 scu in 32 and 8 scu crates idc if you pay or not i just want the ice gone now

[vestal ravine]

I am grinding the event and can use some Ice...let me know how this can work out. -6 CST

[coarse ember]

i'm on atm if you want to swing by, sitting at tressler, in-game should be costco_150_hotdog

lemme see what that is in my time zone lol

[vestal ravine]

Just need 20 minutes? To get there.

[coarse ember]

yep that works

[vestal ravine]

Server full

[vestal ravine]

Can I invite you?

[coarse ember]

in a party with someone else atm but if you're at tressler on my server look for the guy jumping around the asop terminals

[vestal ravine]

I fly there for now...

[coarse ember]

@vestal ravine alright you can send a party invite if you want now

i'll be at the menu so joining off you

gaah max capacity

[hoary monolith]

How nimble does the Zeus CL feel vs the Taurus? Most of my cargo hauling is from station to surface TDD to sell RMC/refined ores, so I'm wondering if the Zeus CL would be better than the Taurus.

[olive gull]

it will do far better.

[plain silo]

Nah I tried all that it was just gone for some reason

[coarse ember]

ah damn, well if you land at tressler lmk so i can add you can give ya some ice to do the 548k ice missions

[plain silo]

I would but it's quite late for me now so probs not.

[tired meteor]

so

do i need to unbind everything "right alt + K" then eject cargo to eject cargo in the hull c?

or does it just not work

[jovial matrix]

You can't eject cargo on the hull C, not as far as I know

The "eject cargo" keybind can only be used on mining ships with quantanium on-board. If the quant is about to explode you can eject it into space to save your ship

[covert dome]

From what I know it used to but due to people ejecting cargo over cities like new Babbage or something and getting them stuck they removed the feature

[gaunt jacinth]

hey im new to mining, im currently in a golem rn and I found this juicy rock. I know I am far out of my league with trying to do this on my own tho I have a...pretty wealthy friend getting on in attempts to help me crack this rock, though would we both have better luck if he were to bring a prospector or mole? modded or stock?

[agile oyster]

You need a mole with the helix

[gaunt jacinth]

🙏

thank you king

also uh, how do you activate non-passive modules for mining...

asking for a friend

[agile oyster]

Np

Left alt 1/2/3

[gaunt jacinth]

ok wordd

i appreciate it again o7

[agile oyster]

This has everything you need to know about mining

https://youtu.be/-7KyJ8NsOUc?si=NFP5Skj9Lt30xLU6

[gaunt jacinth]

THANK YOU

[agile oyster]

No problem happy to help

[hoary monolith]

If I enjoy both mining and salvage would it be more profitable/enjoyable to rent a prospector or a vulture to get started? Is the rental prospector still "trash"? I'm just getting back into SC after a year or so.

[snow oasis]

we're both in the mole now, not helixes but 2 hofstede, we're still not even close to being able to mine it

[hoary monolith]

Do you think getting the third mining laser going would help?

[snow oasis]

yea though I'm gonna switch out the heads for higher power first

[hoary monolith]

If you are in Stanton and want a third person I'm game. I'm still getting used to all the new stuff but used to mine a lot.

[agile oyster]

Did you put 2 surge or stampedes on both heads ?

[snow oasis]

no idk what those are

I can't buy surge

[agile oyster]

Active modules
You can buy stamped in a few places

[snow oasis]

we have THREE helixes. Still impossible

and there's no optimal window

what the fuck

[agile oyster]

It must be bugged you definitely have enough power

[agile oyster]

Maybe get closer to the rock

[snow oasis]

isn't that too close to the min range?

optimal is 90

so shouldn't I be closer to optimal than min?

[agile oyster]

It’s 30 optimal for helix 90 max
It’s fine to go under optimal range to get a bit more power out of the laser
I had to touch the rock with the laser head today to get it to crack with my golem

[snow oasis]

dude waht the fuck

[agile oyster]

I have no idea that rock should crack with 4 lasers on it
Maybe bad desync

[gaunt jacinth]

my ship had a powerplant failure

[snow oasis]

exploding rock

we did not get 50 SCU of quant from it 💔

[deep robin]

best place to mine ice? is it worth mining?

[gaunt jacinth]

i got err60019 after my ship exploded, I got kicked for cracking the rock and it downed me and our 3rd buddy who was before doing allience aid stuff

curses

[snow oasis]

we got fucking scammed

[agile oyster]

Big quant rock really fight back sometimes
I have lost fights with quant many times

[sharp swift]

Pyro https://regolith.rocks/survey/ores?gw=PYRO&ot=C&rt=ASTEROID

worth is up to your personal standards, nothing wrong with it IMO and it's used in the event

[vestal ravine]

I "completed" a large cargo haul for the Mold event and the 2 totals didn't advance on the rewards chart. Is there a delay on that? I even re-logged. Of course I was cheating the system also. Only took one crate to turn in/submit. What happened?

[verbal tangle]

Pretty sure the rewards are calculated the same as mission aEUC is. So if your cargo mission was 300 SCU and you took 1, you got 1 300th of the rep gains, so basically a single point towards the goal.

They don't function the same as the standard missions where you can cheese your way to more rep, as far as I know. The one time I turned in a mission early I had 12/14 SCU as the elevator deleted the last box, and I got most of the rewards still.

[humble merlin]

What's the best active mod build for prospector to break huge rocks solo?

I ran Helix 1 with Rieger 3 and Focus 3 but there were still some impossible asteroids

[agile oyster]

Helix with 2 surge will break up to 35k mass rocks with a sabir gadget

[humble merlin]

Is there a calculator anywhere where to theorycraft with different mining heads and mods and what they're able to do?

nvm I found it on Regolith... I think

[agile oyster]

Yeah regolith is great for where to mine and loadouts

[humble merlin]

Is there anywhere that shows what mass and resistance you can break with what laser power?

[pearl juniper]

I put together this excel sheet a while back to do that. I don't know of any website that does exactly the same. #industrial-professions message

[random patrol]

Check out https://peacefroggaming.com/

[next idol]

ok so, this month we wil get a patch with a new salvage ship? or it will be a release inside 4.6?

iirc it was one that uses the other type of salvage material

[verbal tangle]

How does surge modules work as far as "uses"? Does it need repaired/recharged after uses deplete or is it just gone gone and the module needs fully replaced at a mining shop?

[vestal ravine]

Okay thanks, I will run another mission and see what happens.

[severe sentinel]

They said few weeks after 4.6 release, they removed adagio mission for rework it and pull it back with the medium salvager

[next idol]

Thanks for the info! I’m looking forward for the new ship

[severe sentinel]

If you got other salvage related questions feel free to ask DM open if you need to

[agile oyster]

You can activate it for 15 seconds 7 times then it falls off you can put extra in you backpack and tractor them on or repair the ship

[verbal tangle]

So repairing the ship at the station pays for the new module?

[agile oyster]

Yes
But if you have used it 6 times and you repair it won’t replace it and you can only use it 1 more time but if it falls off repair will replace it

[verbal tangle]

So use it completely and then do the repair, if going to unload at refinery.

Just to optimize the trip.

[agile oyster]

Yes or you can tractor them off when you land and repair to replace them

[verbal tangle]

Gotcha. Well I might have to start using those on my prospector

I was running Reiger C3s which work okay but still an annoying amount of rocks labelled unbreakable.

[agile oyster]

Yeah 2 Reiger give 50% more power 2 surge doubles the power
But when it says impossible it isn’t usually accurate
You can break 20k rock with the 2 riegers and 32k with 2 surge and 35k if you add a sabir gadget

[verbal tangle]

Oh well if that's the case I might keep the reigers, I don't typically find rocks bigger than a 20k. Most I find impossible are between 15 and 20k, so that's annoying I never even thought to try cause it said impossible

[agile oyster]

I know I did the same thing when I started mining
Sometimes you have to touch the rock with the lasers head to get it to change if it’s almost to big
Surges are harder to use than the rieger

[verbal tangle]

Yeah with the new information I'll probably keep the reigers. Will start carrying sabirs though. Is there a convenient source to resupply sabirs? Or do those work multiple times?

[agile oyster]

Most refineries sell them
You can reuse them if you don’t overcharge the rock it will fall off and blink red once the rock is cracked