industrial-professions

[vestal ravine]

That's pretty messed up I would abandon it and reclaim to a new session.

[vestal zodiac]

already done that once, this is a fresh roc

another question: they moved some mining modules out of stanton, where is the reiger now?

[vestal zodiac]

is it just me, or is hadanite a trap? it's worth 2x as much as frey but i feel like i get less than 1/2 the fragments per rock

[naive forum]

Mining itself is becomming a trap. It is one of the least profitable loops unless you mine quantanium with a mole. But they don't seem to care because income isn't the purpose of mining anymore. Instead, in their 1.0 video and images, Mining is to get the crafting materials that you need for make better things and bases. So only try hards of mining will have a mole and instead, everyone else will just use Golem to get the mats they need to craft

[spare cloud]

Levsky

[boreal scroll]

i cant sell construction salvage in lorville in 16scu boxes?

[spare cloud]

That's unrefined materials. You can only sell that in a refinery, or refine it into CMAT

[vestal ravine]

I mined some of that also but only like 4 or 5 gems dropped out. And so it goes...

[wet moat]

You here always complaining about mining while having no clue how it works.

[naive forum]

Yeah i watched red monsters stream where five people are looking for quantanium for hours and when they find a big rock they spend another hour placing devices, organizing who gets what mining heads and breaking and scooping the rocks. They get 27 SCU of quantanium and they are all high fiving each other verbally and it's a whopping 27 million that is split 5 ways. It's a joke. If the Hull C deliveries were actually working all five would have gotten way more in less time. All while trying to squeeze out better efficiencies with different mining heads verses the difficulty and efficiency. Yeah what a waste of time.

Meanwhile they are all soloing moles hoping not to get ganked while doing it

As well, everyone says just doing fighting missions will get you more credits per hour than even hauling or mining, or scraping salvage

[hoary ocean]

So i just got the caterpillar. What are some good trade routes or cargo missions to do with it?

[naive forum]

If you are new to hauling you will have to build up your rep for more mission options. But starting out I am doing Seraphin Station to Orison planetary missions. As a medium rank person I get two direct to seraphim missions from Orison and then 3-4 direct missions from Seraphim cak to orison. Decent credits per hour once you get efficient at it. But there are better mission loops.

This one just gets you quick starting rep past rookie and journeyman and is quick and gets you enough to start buying modules for your ship

also little risk for a new person to hauling

[hoary ocean]

Okay thank you!

[naive forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP4_JgzNlZc&t=1079s

this guy is young and a little too eager but if you can get past that the info is basic enough for a beginner to hauling and it does work

[wet moat]

QED.

You have no clue about mining.
Quantanium mining is not to make much money its to get Polaris Bits. That you can sell to players or yous at Wikelo.

If you want to make money, your farming Taranit Bexalit or Lindinium.

[left ore]

This is my feeling exactly. You're either bulk-mining for "profit" or you're doing it in a targeted way to support yourself / your org because you actually need specific crafting mats.

[naive forum]

that has nothing to do with mining then does it. Instead, it is exactly what I said earlier, you arn't mining for a job, you are doing it for crafting. Except this is for wikelo missions crafting. I don't know anything about wikelo because I haven't done it yet. Mining i have done now on golum, and prospector, with multiple heads using the mining apps ect.

[naive forum]

yes, in this case they are apparently mining quantanium for Wikelo missions. But mining itself is the worst loop

1. You can blow up your ship
2. you can damage your ship and get stranded in space (happened to me but i fixed the ship)
3. you have to refine things for hours
   4, and then at the end of it all you have to haul it all to sell it like a hauler anyway.
4. you have to spend time trying to get better rocks to mine

It is the worst loop in the game

[left ore]

I think it's fun, and if you blow up you either fix your ship or you Backspace and continue the adventure.
No one is forcing you to mine, if you don't like it. A space sim without space mining would be . . . just a shame.

[random patrol]

I see rick is still bashing mining.

[naive forum]

They say they are going to work on it because of crafting so, maybe it gets better. But I don't think so. Instead, i see it only getting worse as it will be required to get certain items. This means that it will be overcomplicated, usually pay to win aspects, and need an org to actually get dones outside of materials for walls and floors. So every org is going to have to have a "mining group" in it, which is why i am bothering to get a ship on my account that can do it and spending the time learning it. But there isn't anyone who can say that it is a better loop than anything else. If you like it, well good for you, but its liking a turd basically

[coarse stag]

I mean, it's not my preferred gameplay but a lot of people seem to really enjoy it.

[random patrol]

Bet you enjoy hitting poop with a hammer....getting it all over you.

[left ore]

So what mining ships do you have?

[random patrol]

I want rick to get into a reclaimer (solo) and tell me about sucky gaming loops.

[left ore]

aww that's just mean
Friends don't let friends fly Reclaimers solo

[random patrol]

Hey I love my reclaimer.

My last run I managed 1132 SCU solo

[naive forum]

right now just a golum, but i mined with a prospector bought in game before that

[random patrol]

Now thats torture

[naive forum]

I keep reading and watching about how reclaimer is broken and they claim that it is on purpose

[random patrol]

Its not broken....only the players who cant handle her are broken.

[left ore]

I mean, the station does all the work for you? I don't get why people are bothered by long refine times. (I also only use Pyro Chrom refining method)

[random patrol]

Offloading it is a chore.

[left ore]

Ahh fair enough. I like mining but it usually ends up expiring in my hangar storage

[random patrol]

Oh I dont care about refinery times....

[left ore]

having player-created buy/sell orders would be cool.

[random patrol]

Salvaging with the reclaimer is different.....I mean you need to first find ships (dont bother with contracts). Sometimes their power is still on so you need to board the ship and turn it off.

[left ore]

I like finding ships and stripping them, (especially when I was poorer) to upgrade my Cutlass B.

Where do you even find ships big enough to salvage with the reclaimer?

[random patrol]

I usually roam around stations looking.... In that last run I managed a hammerhead, a c2 and another abandoned reclaimer.

Reclaimers you can salvage twice since they break in two sizeable chunks

[left ore]

I see. I'm always pleased when I see other Vultures feeding on ships near stations

[random patrol]

You can refuel the reclaimer by landing at a external pad....you dont need to dock or goto a hangar.

[naive forum]

maybe it wsa you i drove past in my Salvation ship while you were unloading cargo from the C2. I drove past someone loading up a reclaimer from a C2

[random patrol]

I usually dont bother with unloading anything....I just bust them up

Easy land and refuel

[left ore]

Other ships can refuel this way too?

[random patrol]

Yes

[left ore]

Good to know cheers Patriot

[random patrol]

You dont need to land in a hangar....just land on the pad....refuel and go.

[left ore]

Is there any way to get RMC from a ship's storage into a Cambio repair tool? Seems silly to have a hold full of repair material but your tool is empty

and the Vulture only prints empty canisters . . .

[random patrol]

I think the relaimer prints full ones?

Id have to check

[left ore]

I felt so silly when I wanted to repair my Vulture and I had to salvage part of the hull to repair the extractor heads
Considering my hold was nearly full of materials

[naive forum]

yes

[random patrol]

Found an abandoned Polaris

[left ore]

Time for the Reclaimer to feast!

[random patrol]

Im in my Zeus

[left ore]

Yeah? Anything to share? I could swear the only canisters to print were empty

[naive forum]

from what i am reading all you do is put in an empty canister and switch to salvage mode instead of repair

[left ore]

oh, yeah I mean I now how to use the tool. I just wondered if there was any way to fill it or create full canisters from the contents of a salvaging ship.

[random patrol]

I think hes means filling them from another ship

Filling them from the vulture storage

[naive forum]

"On most salvage vessels, RMC can also be converted into RMC canisters (for example, the Cambio-Lite SRT Canister) used by salvage and repair hand tools. Empty canisters that can be bought at dedicated shops can also be filled at commodity kiosks with RMC." - from the RSI website, but i haven't tried to fill canisters myself from salvaged scrap

[random patrol]

oh

Do they mean the RMC terminals in Platnium Bay shops?

I wonder.

[left ore]

You can buy full RMC canisters in lots of station shops

I just wondered if there was a way to use the RMC in a salvage ship's hold to fill an empty handheld canister. I think not.

[naive forum]

"or use the multi-tool with an SRT attachment to fill small canisters for personal repairs from empty canisters found in your ship's storage. You equip the multi-tool, attach the Cambio-Lite SRT, equip empty canisters on your armor, scrape hulls with left-click (B to switch to repair), and swap canisters (R) when full. " what i found on internet but haven't tried it

[left ore]

Yes that sounds right, it's the "scrape hulls with left-click" I'm looking at. Thanks for the help, I think the answer is just "make sure you bring plenty of full canisters with you, or find a ship to scrape by hand"

It just seem silly to have a giant scraper spaceship and EVA out of it to scrape with a hand tool. Like getting out of your fire engine to hit something with a handheld extinguisher.

[naive forum]

yes it does sound pretty dumb. i would hope that being able to craft these from salvage ships or RMC boxes at a crafting station would be something we can do soon

[rose goblet]

Boo, no demand for Quant or Taranite at Orison - anywhere else in Stanton I can reliably take it?

[random patrol]

https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/quantanium/tab/locations_buying/

https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/taranite/tab/locations_buying/

[rose goblet]

Ta. Yeah went to New Babbage

[random patrol]

Id say NB

[random patrol]

I suggest checking UEX next time if you have issues.

[rose goblet]

Yeah cheers. What's ArcCorp 141??

[random patrol]

Its on Daymar

Mining outpost

[rose goblet]

Oh interesting. Ta, yeah, good prices

[random patrol]

Yeah but not buying a lot

[rose goblet]

Gotcha. For bex, tar, quant - one of the main planet hubs will be best I guess

[vestal zodiac]

how do you "find" ships per se?

[gaunt tartan]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-192578

if anyone is having this same issue to bring it to CIG attention

Distortion repeaters are not turning the power "ON" state to "Off" even if the pp is showing it is destroyed

[rose goblet]

Can you change lasers on an ATLS GEO?

[jovial matrix]

yes

[rose goblet]

Ok yeah I see you can - all except hte 00Hof I cant put on. any reason to switch lasers? also I thought HIGH power mode was for surface gems and LOW was for caves, but LOW is all it takes to crack this hadonite I'm chasing. What am I missing?

[random patrol]

I usually fly from station to station looking for abandoned ships outside the armastice zone.

[olive orbit]

whast peoples thoughts on the c1 spirit vs zeus cl for haulage?

[spare cloud]

Spirit for hauling contracts with 8+ SCU containers.
CL for trading and small contracts.

[left ore]

They show up all over - Patriot is right, they are often around stations, but you can also find them in asteroid fields and near mission beacons

[naive forum]

neither? they are multirole ships with tiny cargo space. Buy a raft in game

[subtle valley]

raft for pure haulage or an asgard for a bit more versatility

[dull pawn]

Hey so im currently using this loadout on the mole and still struggling with the larger rocks. Is there anything anyone recommends changing ?

[spare cloud]

Erkul bad for mining heads loadout. It's good for the rest, but as an industrial you're just gonna go full industrial or full stealth.
Use !regolith instead, in par with this excel calculator

[jolly dagger]

Regolith

Use the website to search for ore location, optimal mining loadouts and the best trade locations

[dull pawn]

Ok cheers

[spare cloud]

If you're solo you don't need a high power Impact. You already have Helix. If you're looking for the lasgest rocks, you're going with a mix of Rieger-C3, Surge and Stampede.
Either 2xReiger-C3 + Surge, or Reiger-C3 + Surge + Stampede. You could be doing Rieger-C3 + 2x Surge, or even 3x Surge, but that ain't easy to use.

If you're not solo, you don't need a high power Impact, you have Helix, just use two of those.

[dull pawn]

Im solo mostly so would you recommend swapping my helix to reiger reiger surge ?

[spare cloud]

Yeah. What are you using the Impact and Klein for ?

[dull pawn]

nothing xD

I only use the main laser since its easier to get to and from

[spare cloud]

Helix with 2xRieger-C3 gonna be too powerful for most of the cracked rocks you need to crack again before extracting.
You can use an Impact with 3x FLTR-XL as a low power head to crack smaller rocks and extract. FLTR also filters inert materials so you can care less about it and collect more of the ores you're after.

If you sometimes have a duo, you can have a 2nd Helix instead of Klein for a friend to go after even larger rocks.
Or if you're a psycho, you can use a Hofstede with 2x Focus (Focus I, not III) and that should allow you to crack ROC sized rocks.

[dull pawn]

So im solo 95% of the time

[random patrol]

I own the zeus just for daily use....not really for hauling.

[random patrol]

There are 4 abandoned ships here...one being that reclaimer. I took this screen shot last night....12/29 '

I also found a TAC with a Fury inside it at the Terra gateway

[subtle valley]

all the ships I've been finding recently have their shields and engines on, which makes things really difficult :/

[spare cloud]

Shoot shields down, shoot a door/ramp open, get in, power shields down.

[subtle valley]

unfortunately they either blow up or dont have ramps and the cockpit doesnt open

guardians were my favourite to find before, but the lift won't go up when you blow it open and the front doesnt blow open

plus I got stuck in a seat of a C1 the other night, couldn't even backspace

my recovery efforts are on hold now 😐

[spare cloud]

Soft dead ship is a ship you can salvage freely. Soft dead ships also have all doors and ports unlocked

If you blow them up, maybe use less weapons, or less powerful ones.

[keen garden]

We’ve been struggling with salvage when it comes to ships from combat missions too. The ships just go straight to hard death, they never enter a soft death mode.

Thinking what we’ll need to do instead is bringing a ship with disruptors so we can board and kill the pilot, leaving the ship in tact and functional so we can offload it freely and scrape/crack it

[subtle valley]

yeah I need to find some ndbs I think

[keen garden]

Like I took on a caterpillar in my L-21, started by taking out its turrets, then I targeted down the power plant and it just popped. It never shut off or went into a soft death state, it just exploded and sent cargo everywhere

Player ships may react differently, I’ve had my own ships go into a soft death state, aka power plant is off and no systems function, but npc ships seem to be skipping that

[keen garden]

I really dislike how scanning changed, in that now I can’t see from a distance how big a rock is visually without pointing my ship at it

I like to just quickly hit the biggest rocks in a cluster when surface mining, and not being able to see the outlines from afar means I can’t quickly scan the ones I care about without sweeping over each of them one by one when I’m on the dark side

[left ore]

Targeting the power plant has a high likelihood to explode the ship I believe. Destroying engines might be the safest bet.

[keen garden]

Could, but for that you’d have to target all the vectoring ones too if you want to have a chance at boarding. But yea that’d likely prevent the power plant from going boom

When we were looking at it the other day we were seeing ships with 500k-700k worth of non-drug cargo (silicon mostly) that could be interesting to collect and sell in org salvage ops, but of course step one is disabling the ships. Definitely going to try the disruptors route next

[left ore]

Are the vectoring ones targetable?

[keen garden]

Yes

On most big ships anyway, the mole’s definitely are

[left ore]

These are NPC ships or player?

[keen garden]

npc

We’d definitely want a hull c to collect it given its bulk cargo, but that’s not too much of a hassle given we tend to run a dedicated cargo crew anyway when we do this stuff

[left ore]

Sounds fun.

[keen garden]

None of it is super profitable, but it’s fun

More or less practice for when materials have real value for crafting/base building

[plucky ridge]

I know nothing I guaranteed. But how is the autoloading of commodities. Reliable?

I’ve already learned to manually unload it…

[jovial matrix]

low power is for hand-mineables, high power is for vehicle mineables, so meant for the ROC/GEO. Hadanite is a handmineable, so you're pretty much only going to be using low power to mine it

[rose goblet]

Ohhhhhh.

The F-one is a vehicle minable?

[jovial matrix]

Hadanite and other hand mineables can spawn on the surface and in caves, same thing with vehicle mineables, but they're a lot less common in caves

fenmayline? yeah it is

[rose goblet]

Ohhhhhhhh. I did think the rock looked small

The hand minable spit out 3 or 4 gems, the bigger ones more. Yeah?

[jovial matrix]

Yeah typically

If the rock is about as tall as your character, then its meant for a vehicle. If its somewhere below your waist, its meant for hand mining

[plucky ridge]

does the external cargo loading from hailing a station only load to Hull Cs?

[random patrol]

Yes.

[plucky ridge]

ty. Wish it was anything with external cargo grids.

[random patrol]

You can call the cargo up with the external cargo elevators and load it that way.

[lone sage]

Does anyone know if you can change what size boxes to pack your RMC if it's in your storage as 1scu boxes?

[rose goblet]

If you tell the refinery to load it direct to a cargo ship it might go for larger boxes. Does with refined ores

[rose goblet]

Am I correct that, in Stanton, it's basically best to stick with Hadonite and Feymaline when out surface gem mining?

[crimson mantle]

No, you can't rebox anything

[jovial matrix]

yup

[keen garden]

has the levski refinery worked for anyone recently?

[keen garden]

doesn't work for me, tried on two different servers

hey... it worked, i can refine from the station. just not from the mole.

[jovial matrix]

Can you still trade caranite and/or scrips for wikelo favors?

[modern osprey]

scrip yes , see the board next to the FE

[jovial matrix]

excellent, thank you

[cerulean dove]

Is there a way to reduce how quickly the progress meter spikes when GEO mining? I always end up getting myself killed with the GEO but I have no problems hand mining, ROC mining, or ship mining.

[spare cloud]

Sounds like you're using the GEO in ROC mode for hand sized rocks.

[cerulean dove]

It was a normal feynmaline cluster on the surface, so I imagine they were ROC sized

[spare cloud]

In doubt, begin with hand mode, see if you need more power after.

[unique ridge]

L-alt + 4 drops your geo to low power

don't accidently hit f4 though......

[cerulean dove]

lmao

[unique ridge]

not sure who thought it was a good idea to make that the combo for low power

[keen garden]

it's all in just managing your laser power. You have two tools at your disposal for that in a roc or geo, and this also applies to ships like the golem and prospector: Distance from the rock, and your actual laser power on the right. Distance from the rock more or less applies a multiplier to your laser power, the further away you are, the less power you can output. If you find that moving the power on your laser is having too big of an effect on the rock, move your geo/roc/ship away from the rock.

[cerulean dove]

If I can make it to a rock cluster without getting attacked, I'll see if I can experiment with that

[keen garden]

you basically never want to be in a position where the only tool you have to not overpower your rock is to turn the laser off, turning the laser off is typically a bad thing and should only be used in an emergency, so if you have your laser at min power and the green bar is still moving, you definitely want to back off

(that doesn't really happen in geo mining though i don't think?)

[lone sage]

Dang, that would be nice

[crimson mantle]

Indeed it would

[keen garden]

what I want to see is the ability to selectively refine just one or two things from a set of mole bags without it discarding other stuff in the bag

so, for example, being able to take a set of molebags with taranite, quant, and bex and set up 3 work orders for it, one for each of the raw ores

this would let you haul bags around to different stations to refine each raw ore at the best place to refine it

[plucky ridge]

Can hull c deliver planetside via cargo? For example Tessa spaceport

[mild pumice]

No

[white crane]

If I have a contract for pickup at a smaller location on a planet, why do I get the trespassing notification when I land? I didn't even get the option to Hail for clearance.

[rose goblet]

You can do this. Giant waste of time though

[keen garden]

I mean, currently you can’t, unless you meticulously track what each set of bags has

[rose goblet]

You have to take all the bags with you yeah

So becomes a big waste of time. I doubt they will ever make this happen

[rose goblet]

When gens explode, is the ROC safer than the ATLS. Died 100m out from an explosion in an ATLS. Annoying!

[rose goblet]

Ugh game just ate about 4 hours of gem mining. Thanks, game

[boreal scroll]

Wait (Crucial): After a 30k, close the game and launcher completely. Wait at least 10-15 minutes, but potentially several hours, for the server to process the recovery.
Log Back In: Re-launch the game and launcher.
Go to ASOP Terminal: Head to the ASOP (Aircraft Serial Operations Panel) terminal at your home base (e.g., Area 18, Lorville).
Check Ship Status:

"Retrieve": Your ship is ready; click it to get it back, cargo and all.
"Claim": DO NOT claim it. This means the system still thinks your ship is "lost" or in an "unknown state." Close the game and wait longer (another few hours) before trying again.

Inspect in Hangar (If needed): After retrieving, summon the ship to the hangar and visually check inside to ensure cargo registers before storing it again

is that true ????????

[spare cloud]

Are you sure that's a #industrial-professions question ?

Ask in #helpdesk instead, and use screenshot or link rather than random quote

[long frost]

Is that a changeable shortcut in key bindings? If yes, what's the name?

[unique ridge]

no idea

[full sapphire]

Anyone know how to fix the Roc where the crosshairs are way off from where the laser actually shoots?

[rose goblet]

Thanks for the advice!

[rose goblet]

A site elevator just at my gems. Day 3 of not being able to succesfully crack gems and sell them. Sigh.

[rose goblet]

Decided to change it up: Got corsair, put nursa, ATLS, some stores in it, went to pyro, went to a moon, alt-tabed and crashed.

And now me and my NURSA are on the moon on our own 🙁

[analog patrol]

Ohno! You need a pick up?

[rose goblet]

I summoned a AANGL team lol

I just can't believe how many times I've failed to gem mine now lol

[rose goblet]

As it turns out it was all pointless. I alt-tabbed, game crashed, came back in falling through the planet, relogged, got spawned me back at a station. I then re-claimed my gear and started sorting out my stuff for another epxedition when bam - server crashed

[bright temple]

Hey! I'm on Verseguide looking at outposts in Pyro and seeing there are Xenothreat outposts with freight elevators but labelled as hostile. Can you approach these outposts safely? Will they shoot or can you trade with them?

[timid oyster]

how tf are u even meant to unload the reclaimer?

[bright temple]

https://youtu.be/NTKUIsSct9w?si=ITIw1WG7m25zHld1

[random patrol]

The little hatch in the back.

[subtle valley]

open all doors and you can throw it down the main elevator too

[random patrol]

Park it over an external cargo elevator and unload her there. I suggest asking someone to help you.

[keen garden]

every external elevator I’ve gone to recently didn’t let me use my tractor beam nearby

[random patrol]

Dont approach the elevators at a steep angle. I usually come in parallel with the elevators.....never any issues.

[random patrol]

Works fine. Like I said approach the elevators parallel with the station.....

[plucky ridge]

Can someone explain to me the benefits of using external elevator vs interior docking?

[spare cloud]

You mean, landing ?

Well, a lot of stations don't have hangars large enough for a Reclaimer or Hull-C to begin with.

[plucky ridge]

Ah. I see but functions the same way?

[spare cloud]

And it's also more convenient as tractor beams perform a lot better in zero G.

[wet moat]

Were did you try it? @keen garden

[random patrol]

you asking me?

[wet moat]

Forgott to @ him

[plain silo]

Is the nomad good for a new player to get into cargo?

[cerulean dove]

Yep, it's a good little starter for cargo hauling. You can also fit a ROC land miner in the cargobay if you ever want to try out mining for gems. It can also do the very basic combat missions with its three size 3 weapon hardpoints if you want to give bounty hunting/mercenary work a whirl.

There are better ships in that pricepoint for hauling, but they aren't nearly as good for a starter ship since they're only haulers and can't do much else.

[plain silo]

What missions should I start off with doing, like hauling or should I do some ROC mining?

[lofty apex]

Want to try out salvage never having done this b4. Does this UEX charts mean RMC is going for 1.1k at Rappel? If it does I don’t see any point in bothering. I just want to make sure I am not missing something.

Or this?

[jovial matrix]

Thats the amount of SCU that rappel is willing to buy, RMC is worth about 7k per SCU

[rose goblet]

Gem explosions can set your ship on fire! I was reviving in the Nursa and going "why is everything flamey?" Lol.

[rose goblet]

This was fun 😄

[jovial matrix]

amazing screenshot lol

[lofty apex]

Help me with the numbers as I cannot figure out how you got to 7k

[vestal ravine]

That is amazing and welcome to Star Citizen in a flaming nutshell lol...

[vestal ravine]

For RMC in particular it is mostly "made" in the salvage ships and I sell mine at like Orison who can handle higher volume sales of the RMC. There's no way I would take 100 scu to Seer's Canyon to sell at $7,140.00 Aeuc which is what I saw a few minutes ago on that page. On the sell tab for RMC at Seer's Canyon they take on average 448 which is less than 1 scu (1,000 scu equals one one full crate so 448 is less than one full crate) So to sell 100 crates in the 1 scu size there I would need 100 trips at minimum which no one does really.) But you can try it in the game to learn more. Go to Jackson's Swap see how much they sell you and run it over to Seer's Canyon to sell and you will learn a lot about the game.

[crimson mantle]

Might be clearer here
https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Recycled Material Composite

[long frost]

hi there, did anyone ever try the combo SRV + salvage ship?

e.g. with a fortune or salvation?

my idea is to pull ships from non-armistice zones like paf, olp or pyro outposts and create a scrap yard

all in all more like a rp idea which I want to try mixed with a little money making

[royal spear]

I've not played around much with srv but afaik it is quite disappointingly limited in what it can tow. I like the idea of making a scrapyard but I don't think there is a way to make it persistent currently unless you cram the ship wrecks into all the nooks and crannies of your home hangar...? correct me if I'm wrong.

[long frost]

hm wrecks only have to persist a few hours max. I don't plan on logging off during a session

the limit is a connie afaik

which is sufficient for me

[royal spear]

I see... I mean for rp, sure. For practicality it is far more effort and time wasted towing wrecks than just salvaging them there and then..

[long frost]

of course haha 😄

i don't try to min max

[royal spear]

Good place to do some "clean up" are distro centres like Dupree and such too as people often die and abandon ships there

you might get shot tho 😛

[long frost]

this is a risk I'm ready to take in the service of authentic rp lol

[royal spear]

I also don't know what the restrictions on towing something are.. like do they need shields to be off like for salvage?

[long frost]

yes afaik

[royal spear]

that might be a big hinderance in hostile places where you might need to get in and out fast

[long frost]

in the worst case I need to force my way in...which is an issue with the srv since it doesn't ship weapons

i will bring heavy fps weapons

[royal spear]

See if you can fit a land vehicle on the cargo ramp. Pulse will likely fit but something with guns would be better

actually standard pulse has some weapons

so you're golden

[ivory bronze]

So I have been doing hauling with my start ship(Nomad) I am looking at upgrading to do bigger hauls and make more money. Someone said the Tarus was good. Is that what I should get?

[cerulean dove]

ROC makes more short term. Hauling makes more when you have a larger capacity ship, but you need high reputation for that.

Unverified hauling (smuggling) can also make a bit of money and doesn't require a high SCU load.

In the end, prioritize fun per hour over UEC per hour.

[royal spear]

I firmly suggest renting a Raft for bigger hauling contracts to amass some money

Taurus is an excellent all rounder but if you are just doing hauling atm Raft is better in every way for pure hauling and very cheap to rent.

like 70k per day and you can make the money back + profits in 1 run

[ivory bronze]

I mainly do hauling yes. Someone gave me 10mil last night so I was looking at buying a ship

[royal spear]

I would recommend throwing the 10mil away and playing the game but do as you please 😉

you can buy/rent both the raft and taurus from Lorville

[ivory bronze]

We were doing contracts and stuff and I apparently didn't get paid for some of the work I did last night so Ima probably keep it lol

I did save up almost 1mil on my own

[ivory bronze]

That is where I am headed now from everus

[royal spear]

slight correction Taurus is apparently only rentable from New Babbage but still bought in Lorville

[ivory bronze]

No worries!

Raft has more SCU than Taurus?

[royal spear]

yep

at like half the price

[ivory bronze]

Oh heck yeah

I was just able to fit way more SCU onto my nomad than I thought lol. I just shoved stuff into the back part between other locked down items and it worked

@royal spear the Argo RAFT?

[ivory bronze]

yes it is

[uncut dew]

Hello,
It's been awhile since I did mining. I notice the intert materials aren't being removed from the Propspector bags after setting up a refinery order...how do I fully empty them?

[rose goblet]

Go to the other terminal near the refinery terminal and sell the trash rocks

[uncut dew]

Ah, ore sales? Interesting. Thanks!

[plain silo]

With smuggling I tried it but I found it really difficult to find the outposts, any advice?

[cerulean dove]

I don't personally have too much experience with smuggling, but all of the outposts should be on VerseGuide.

[thin axle]

is it the large cargo hulls that need hull c?

[echo venture]

where can i buy ship modules?

[jovial matrix]

Lots of different places, I'd reccomend using https://finder.cstone.space/ to look up where certain ingame items are sold

[mild pumice]

The Hull C can be used for any hauling mission as long as it goes from the 4 LEO and 3 gateway stations in Stanton, the 3 main Stations in Pyro and gateway Stations and Levski and gateway stations in Nyx. These are the only places that support Hull C loading. The haulage missions with above 600ish SCU is better done in a Hull C of course otherwise you can still do them with multiple trips in a C2...

[restive bear]

Newbie question. Looking to get into salvaging. Which ships can be salvaged for RMC without attracting a crimestat?

My current understanding is an unowned ship which has no shields (either a ship is on but the shields are destroyed or tuned off or b) the ship is “turned off”)

Am I right? I’m thinking of all the abandoned ship as places like Lazarus facilities or other non-armistice zone places

[plain silo]

Should these give that much!?!?!

[subtle valley]

multi stop interstellar hauling, why not?

with the added risk of being murder hobo'ed in pyro too 😄

[plain silo]

How do I get to pyro, I am at the jump but no UI comes up so I dont understand what to do

[subtle valley]

get in nav mode and approach the wormhole

once youre at a certain distance the tuning stuff comes up

[coarse ember]

^ if you've swapped out your quantum drive before double check you have a jump modue installed too

[plain silo]

Agh, my tab to scan wasn’t working so I had to reload, it then cancelled the quest , so annoying!!!!

[terse skiff]

Hi gang, I tried to refine construction rubble but anytime I select confirm after choosing a method to refine with nothing happens.

Any ideas? I'm using a rented hull A.

• Nvm I fixed it, just moved the rubble to the warehouse.

[plain silo]

I want to focus on hauling and trading, currently using the nomad, what’s a good upgrade?

[subtle valley]

asgard, raft or c2, depending on your budget and ambitions

[wet moat]

Are you scraping for profit or fun?

If you scraping for profit go to a Astroid field, there you find scrap panels these are why more profitable than scraping ships.
To find them, you need to scan for signatures that can evenly divided by 2,000. Like 8,000 or 10,000

If you doing it for fun. You can scrap every ship out of the armistice zones with no shields and no power.

[restive bear]

Just for fun - thanks, I’ll have a play.

[vestal ravine]

Anyone know about using the 2 cargo modules for the Retaliator? is the open all command in the cockpit area? I can't find it nor a open panel from outside the ship. Thanks!!

[mild pumice]

The panels are just inside the doorway (inside) I can't remember where outside I might have gone back up the elevator to open them when I was testing it

The open all from cockpit can be done in seat from the interaction wheel 'alt+F' not sll ships have a button in the cockpit to open doors. Also if there's an engineering panel you can open doors from that too.

[vestal ravine]

Ok great I will investigate further and thanks!!

[copper goblet]

anyone know why this rock wont even start to break

[pearl juniper]

54k mass, not going to crack that with a single laser #industrial-professions message

[near swallow]

That's why it says "Impossible" on the right side. Especially with that laser setup. You would need multiple people and possibly multiple Moles. And I've seen bigger rocks before.

[spare cloud]

Not that the difficulty rating is to trust as is.

Every experienced miner has seen impossible rocks that cracked just fine.

[pearl juniper]

Yeah, "impossible" doesn't always mean impossible, but if you hit it with full power and get nothing after a couple of seconds, it's probably impossible with the current setup.

[near swallow]

With his setup though, I figure impossible would be accurate. I suspect that gauge doesn't fully take into account the modules, like the Rieger C3, just the base laser.

[naive vine]

Is the hull C worth it at all?

[spare cloud]

Yes, Helix II with 3 Surge modules is the only "one head" setup capable of cracking this.

And it's going to be a huge pain

[near swallow]

For commodity trading, it's broken right now. Not sure about how it's working for hauling missions, but if you look up Captain Deadwake on Youtube, he does videos about the Hull C's status when a new patch drops.

[keen garden]

Is there a known moon where one can reliably find caves?

(Other than Hathor caves)

[near swallow]

There's a website where you can use to find caves and other unknown locations: VerseGuide. But you can also see caves by pinging while flying around. It'll actually pop up a thing saying Cave.

[mild pumice]

All moons have them and there's a cave or two near outposts, they show on the scanner, there's a couple near the mining outposts on Daymar and there's like 3 near Chawla's Beach on Pyro IV that show up on a scan.

[light imp]

whats the meta money making method rn? i would love to try the asgard

[formal gorge]

Any experienced miners here?

Need help with mining impossible quant rocks. Ive got a MOLE, Helix II, Rieger 3 and 2x surge, with a Sabir attached on a 32k rock and still cant crack it. People are saying they can easily solo 60k.... how????

Can the MOLE's secondary lasers still help with this?

[near swallow]

Multiple mining lasers on the same rock will help each other, even if they come from multiple ships. (Some rocks may well need multiple fully crewed Moles.) Also, just to make a note, Surge modules are not always on like the Rieger C3 is, they have to be turned on to be useful. (I personally run my Mole with 2x C3 and a Focus III.)

[formal gorge]

Yeah i had surge active ofc, no affect

[random patrol]

Its possible....you need to be closer

A Sabir gadget would help you immensely

Scratch that....it wont. I was checking on https://rockbreaker.peacefroggaming.com/ and I had the other two lasers manned

[spare cloud]

Sabir would help

This is crackable with Rieger-C3+Surge+Sabir, don't even need a 2nd Surge

[spare cloud]

But there's no Sabir on your rock here. Would show this in bottom middle of your HUD if you had one.

[formal gorge]

I added one after the screenshot

Definitely had sabir active, rieger c3, 2x surge and in range

Its a tiny rock easily soloable and i cant do it, idk why

Had 2 surges going until it depleted, nothing

[hidden fulcrum]

Is it worth it to upgrade from a Aurora MR to a Drake cutter?

For package and small Cargo delivery

[spare cloud]

For comfort and vibes, yes.
For overall use, not really.

Both are terrible haulers, Cutter is a worse fighter, but will be more comfy to get packages in and out and a bike too.

Look at it for your daily use, but for a hauler, just rent something in game.

[hidden fulcrum]

What would be a good hauler for someone who just started?

Maybe a Caterpillar?

[spare cloud]

Caterpillar is overkill for a starter and a pain to use

[hidden fulcrum]

Ah ok it just looks so cool

[spare cloud]

Nomad, Hull-A, Spirit C1, Zeus CL, RAFT, from small to mid sized, all rentable but Zeus, try them and see.

Large sized, C2 rules.

Will change a bit in a few months, with the arrival of the Hull-B, Railen and Ironclad.

Will be nice.

[hidden fulcrum]

Thnx so much

Im upgrading my RAM to 32gigs and yesterday i remembered i have this game so im gonna be in the verse in like 2 weeks when the ram comes

Im excited

[crimson mantle]

Raft is fantastic

[south plaza]

Doing a hauling mission and I cannot split the stack of containers, which are too big for the elevator

[spare cloud]

I assume you're in a medium hangar. If you have a ship that fits in a large hangar, store the current one, go retrieve the large ship, enter the large hangar and get your other ship with cargo back.
Or the same thing with small/medium instead of medium/large, idk.

[south plaza]

Landing pad at an outpost

[spare cloud]

There shouldn't be such issue with a hauling contract at an outpost.

[south plaza]

The issue its its 4x16scu, and it will only let me put 2 on at a time

[spare cloud]

Then do that

Nothing prevents you from doing this.

[south plaza]

How do I specify only 2 of the 4?

[spare cloud]

Send two, send the other two.

[south plaza]

I click stack of 4, I click add to lift, it says no

I right click to open split menu, split menu does nothing

[spare cloud]

But you should totally be able to fit 4x 16 SCU containers onto one elevator

[south plaza]

Should yes

[spare cloud]

Make sure you check every available elevator at the outpost.
This one is bugged, part of the grid is bricked. If all are, change server region, redo.

[pearl juniper]

Split interface is kinda bugged right now. Doesn't show the numbers. But it should still work, just click the up arrow twice

[long frost]

hear me out. An atls geo on a raft for gem mining

[tired meteor]

so. i did a trail run of using the C2 as a mining vessel.

turned out well

i do recommend bringing a ship repair tool & mats as the extended use of the drake can lead to maneuvering thruster loss from dmg taken from cracking asteroids from time to time

[long frost]

What is your laser setup?

[random patrol]

Its been a while but when I took them out it was fun also. Takes a little setup

[deep bison]

Is mining worth it now? or should I stick to other stuff? or is it more of a personal preference?

[south plaza]

How does illegal hauling contracts work?

[tired meteor]

I don't have the names on hand but it's the red module that increases laser output and then the filtration module that filters out unusable materials

and then the mining head is default as you can't change the head on the golem

[tired meteor]

as long as you have something to run your refined resources like a Zeus or bigger you can make some good money off it if you do targeted mining

like if you target tannerite one load of majority tannerite should net you around 1 to 3 million

[spare cloud]

Cargo ship can always be rented for this purpose.

Don't have to own one.

[long frost]

Umm so was the red one an active one (surge/stampede) or a passive one (rieger)?

[spare cloud]

The filtration module is FLTR. Ideally, FLTR-XL.

"Red that increases laser output" matches the description of the Brandt module.

It also increases resistance, which the Golem mining head already increases a lot. It's bad.

[vestal ravine]

Focus on Quantanium it brings in big money on the UEX marketplace.

[deep bison]

Why would it be more there than from just like an admin?

can you do other stuff with it beside sell it?

[spare cloud]

Admin buys for a set price.
Players buy for Wikelo, and like everything on player driven market (just like IRL market), demand makes price rise, and buyers are willing to pay crazy prices.

[deep bison]

oh didn't see that quantanium was on the wikelo menu.

that makes sense

[tired meteor]

they're both passive modules One looks like an engine that's red the other ones a yellow thing at the top of the list of stores on the module tab

[tired meteor]

to my understanding The only thing that will prevent you from mining an asteroid in the small category is the asteroid mass they need to add more mining vessels to make use of size two or size 3 mining heads The golem uses a size 0 that can't be changed because it's a custom but it works better for me then the head you can buy for the prospector at cargo stores

with the increased laser power I can sometimes even break asteroids that are marked as impossible if I can find their fault line

[left ore]

Fault Line? I know there's an optimum distance, but do space rocks really have weak points / fault lines?

[tired meteor]

when they're heating up the cracks that appear are actually weaker to the mining laser

from what I've done mining wise before I figured out that on some of the larger if they're right above hard into impossible if you hit one of these continuously you can still mine at very slowly but it's possible

I guess I'll have to make a video of it

[spare cloud]

Golem uses a Size one mining head. Like the Prospector. MOLE size two.
Arrastra will be the first (and only) ship with size 3 mining heads, and Orion is yet an other category. These two will be cracking rocks larger than anything we have in game for now.

Golem head is the same as the best size one mining head, the Helix, with only one difference being a major resistance increase for the Golem.
Both mass and resistance affect whether you can crack a rock or not. The largest rock you can crack is ([max_power * 5] * resistance).
For a Golem, it's a 29531kg rock with Rieger-C3+Surge modules, at 0% resistance. Same for the Prospector, except the resistance scaling is harsh on the Golem. At 25% resistance, a Prospector can crack a 25k rock, a Golem a 20k.

The "Impossible" reading being inaccurate can be true for all rocks and all loadouts. Always check if you can crack it with actually trying it or the good formula rather than believing dumb text.

[spare cloud]

_ _

[tired meteor]

I didn't see any prospector heads that could hold two modules

[spare cloud]

Helix. The one I'm talking about here. But there's also the Impact that can have two modules.

[tired meteor]

huh

[tired meteor]

The only downside is the prospector doesn't fit in the C2 cargo Bay

[spare cloud]

Power calculator. Doesn't include the Pitman option, but you can make it.

[tired meteor]

at least the C2 I have I don't know about the military cargo variant

[spare cloud]

Every Hercules variant fits the same vehicles.

Golem with mothership is indeed better than solo Prospector.
If you own a 890J, Polaris or Idris, Prospector fits and then you can just use that.

Golem is the good choice if you have lower incomes. 890J is pricy af.

[tired meteor]

I think the two biggest ships I have are the caterpillar and the C2

and I kind of forgot about all the ships I bought My organization gave me money and told me to go try out ships before the wipe

oh Hercules is part of the name of that ship never mind

[fringe kettle]

What's the best setup for mining quant solo these days? It's been a long time since I last mined

[left ore]

This is very interesting and good to know, thank you!

I’ve learned a lot from you this week 🍻

[tired meteor]

what kind of file is this?

[spare cloud]

Excel sheet

[spare cloud]

This is placebo.

[tired meteor]

placebo?

[spare cloud]

Placebo!

[tired meteor]

[tired meteor]

I don't understand

[spare cloud]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=placebo+definition

[left ore]

It means you're eating sugar pills instead of mining

[spare cloud]

I hope it wasn't that much cause there's a lot to filter.
May need a FLTR-XL variant for confident inaccuracies. Dude's hallucinating more than a LLM

I'm mostly joking, it's part of the learning process to make mistakes, but it's best to avoid spreading them as confident advice

[left ore]

Mostly about being able process ore containers from a cargo hold instead of the mining ship.

The crack thing seems "rather suprising" and I'm not shocked to hear that claim being refuted.

[tired meteor]

dont help that the game tells you nothing and from the seems of it a LOT of the info given by the game is a lot of the times wrong or bugged and if the crack shit aint real then why when i move my lazer contact point over it that all the stats on the asteroid changes and it heats up faster?

nor does it help to randomly use a medical term when there are normal terms for that misunderstanding

also i cannot use that excel file i dont have a license for it's program

[spare cloud]

Use free equivalent 🤷

[tired meteor]

there was a trail but i used that years ago

[spare cloud]

Free equivalent. Not free trial.
Different software, that does the same thing.

[tired meteor]

this force overlays itself on the program and if I click out of it it closes the program

if I drag it off screen and try to interact with the program I get the standard Windows tone when another window is taking priority on the program

[spare cloud]

You are not even trying.

It's been decades that Placebo isn't just a medical term btw. It's commonly used to describe stuff that acts similarly as placebo medicines.

[spare cloud]

Regarding the in game information, it's very true that there's very little of it, and that a good portion of what we do have is bugged.

I do however find rare to have direct in game information be inaccurate.

[tired meteor]

I can't exactly say I've explored the whole game All I've done so far is cargo delivery and mining

[spare cloud]

StarCitizen is close to impossible without the use of third party websites.
Erkul.games
Finder.cstone.space
Regolith.rocks
Uexcorp.space
...

[tired meteor]

I don't even know if I can consider the bounty hunting I've done really bounty hunting it was a bit too easy to be considered the normal bounty hunting I think

[spare cloud]

Like basically every career, it starts with very newcomer friendly stuff.

Harder and better paying contracts are unlocked as you gain reputation by repeating the currently available ones.

[spare cloud]

https://starcitizen.tools/Star_Citizen_resources_megalist

[tired meteor]

eh i kind figured that much.

idk why but my stt just broke

[plucky ridge]

Does timer on cargo missions matter? They time out or arbitrary atm

[keen garden]

is wear and tear on mole lasers just not repairable?

was repaired at a station quite a few times this patch, never claimed this mole

[round crown]

hi all, just wondering, i've been trying to mine quantanium with the prospector but all quantanium rocks say impossible, is there a way to mine quantanium with the prosp? at the moment im uisng a helix with 2 reiger c3's

[visual hinge]

for some it matters from what I can tell (I could be wrong honestly). The normal cargo hauling planetary and stellar expire eventually and your cargo becomes worthless. The red wind line hauling and the other one do not expire though. If the timer is 1-2h it is expiring, if it is 5m it is not is what I observed basically

[left ore]

Impossible just means the size and resistance are too high for your current equipment. If it’s close, you may be able to fracture slowly even though it says impossible.
If you use a gadget you may be able to overcome and mine.

[plain silo]

I am so lost, just accepted a hauling contract go to the place get shot at then find people inside killing others, kill them for self defense and then get crimestat, kill other npcs who are shooting at me in the area, try to leave, 2 other players start shooting at me and I wake up at grim hex
Can anyone explain what just happened to me???
also How do I get rid of crimestat now?

[spare cloud]

I am so lost, just clicked in three different channels and they all have the same chat history smh

[left ore]

That is neither strange, nor not-strange

[vestal ravine]

The 2 choices are go to Security Post Kareha and clear your crimes crimestat or surrender to Prison.

[storm storm]

brother, why post this into all the channels

[south plaza]

Payments for haul missions are wild, they seem to be either 'make 5 stops' or 'haul 1000scu of stuff' and which pays more seems arbitrary

[mild pumice]

It's a bit of a mess, needs polishing, I'm sure they have a plan but right now the same rookie interstellar missions pay more than the master ones for example. I find myself getting frustrated with the long list of garbage missions tbh. If I could at least filter by my current location that would help.

[left ore]

Same, I always check the hauling missions, see that they want me to pick up from 4 different places, then deliver to another system, and go "F all that" and head somewhere else. Maybe someday when I'm more hard-up for $$. For now I'll just go murder an Outlaw for $50k.

[plucky ridge]

Please Devs. Anything with an external cargo grid allow use of auto load at stations. The Hull series, Raft, Golem OX….

[compact kindle]

whats the big money make nowadays have $300usd store credit if i melt msr, havetn played for 4 years im solo

[random patrol]

Apparently begging for money is king these days.

[hidden sky]

Damn... Im confused. I did salvage a few times in the past. I remember it being really good profit for time. Just got a RSI salvation. Was super impressed with how much I liked it. Then went to sell the RMC. Im confused. I spent way more time doing this than doing like 3 bounties. I dont see the value. Some bounties give almost this much. on top of that I was paying for the contracts to salvage.

[random patrol]

Biggest tip I can give is dont waste time on salvage contracts. You can easily find abandoned ships outside the armistice zones around stations.

[hidden sky]

Even then I don't see the profit vs time. It's fun but I feel like I'm just wasting time.

[random patrol]

Youre also selling at a location that offers less than other buyers. - https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/recycled-material-composite/tab/locations_buying/

And yeah....IMO in the salvation....it is a waste of time.

Mining will get you way more for your time invested.

Personally I enjoy salvaging....in a reclaimer....and not scraping ships for RMC.

[pure geyser]

Hi all! Anyone has suffered this bug where the mole is “destroyed” and no matter what you will need to reclaim it in order to be able to do refineries orders?

I have tried even changing the ore pods and storing them, but when reclaiming back the mole they just despawn forever

[plucky ridge]

Nope. Just putting stuff on an external hangar at an outpost and when using terminals it’s deleted….

[merry olive]

Hi, if i have Hauling questions, would this be the right channel to ask ? 🙂

[olive gull]

yup

[merry olive]

I just got to Covalex member and all the contracts are kinda crap ?
I did Ling Family Intro and Red Wind Intro but they are also kinda meh ?

What do i need to do to get contracts with like 10-15 min rides for good money ? (Single Pickup, Single Dropoff, preferably)

[plucky ridge]

Ya member on covalex are smaller loads and more drop offs. Pita

[merry olive]

Btw nothing better than loading 500scu and the last box in the air -> server error

[grand shuttle]

From fort tressler ( and other planet harbor stations ), there are usually multiple contracts you can stack up to the same small number of destinations. So its mixed cargo from 6 contracts to the same 3 places, for a total of around ~600k

[olive gull]

interstellar cargo missions also pay around that

[left ore]

Don't do it for the cash payout, do it to get better at procuring RMC and construction parts and for hanging out in space. Strictly for-profit there are better things to do, but this way you're making a little money, fussing with your setup / modules / gadgets and hopefully having fun.

[hidden sky]

I do enjoy it. I especially like the faster little ship. Something about being nimble and doing it is way funnier to me.

[left ore]

I've done it for a few minutes on a friend's Reclaimer and for a few hours in my Vulture. It's a lot of fun indeed, I've always loved salvaging wreck in space games.

[grand shuttle]

Any idea what ship that is in the sneak peak?

[jovial matrix]

It looks like a variant of the apollo

[grand shuttle]

So, another small hauler?

boo, what the game needs is something between the raft and the c2/hull-c level ( thats not the caterpillar)

[slate spruce]

That will hopefully be the Hull B and Railen

[spare cloud]

Railen got such an increase of the cargo capacity that it's more equalling the current hauling kings rather than being a step before.
It doubled, doing 640 SCUs.

Hull B is possibly getting the same treatment.

[slate spruce]

Hull B should be 512. Together with Railen it doesn't seem that they'll have any off-grid cargo possible, compared to the ~800 of fully stuffed C2. If you'd want something around 300, go off-grid on an Asgard.

[wraith citrus]

i was told to come here i cant sell these

[olive gull]

Different stores buy/sell different stuff, tried selling at Ruin Station?
you wont get much for it tho, i would simply space out the boxes somewhere

[wraith citrus]

Uh i would but my ship wont start? I think it blew the engines are red

[random patrol]

You're trying to sell raw ores at a trade terminal? Who told you to "go there"?

[wraith citrus]

i thought it would work LOL

i just started

[random patrol]

Unrefined ore and inert materials can be sold at the refinery.

Not a trade terminal.

[wraith citrus]

where can i find refinerys i looked for some and didnt find

[random patrol]

If you pull up the map in the mobiglass and select a location it will tell you if there is a refinery there.

[tired meteor]

my new C2 mining configuration. 10 rounds of pods

[wraith citrus]

Whats mobilglass?

[tired meteor]

F1/F2 pda

the wrist hologram

[olive gull]

go to any of the L1 stations of whatever planet you are now, for example: CRU-L1, ARC-L1, HUR-L1 or MIC-L1

[wraith citrus]

got it

[olive gull]

this site gives you the full list: https://uexcorp.space/mining/refineries

[wraith citrus]

just sold my first shipment

17k

[olive gull]

nice!, well done! 👍

[mild cloud]

lol i just quantum traveled into a rock and blew up with all my shit

the spice must flow

[turbid tartan]

quick question, does the salvation fit in the asgard?

[grand shuttle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1p2oice/if_salvation_sits_it_fits_asgard_edtion/

[turbid tartan]

thanks :3

[nocturne rune]

heya, any good salvaging guides?

Got no idea how it works now, just heard you gotta refine stuff now?

[random patrol]

You need to refine the construction materials....not the RMC.

[coarse ember]

gotta refine cmat salvage to cmat now but other than that it's still the same as before

[spice shell]

Anyone got a solid take on the Golem OX?

I'm a fan of the first Golem, and I like the Hull A, but figured 64 SCU was just too small to bother with it.

Has anyone out there found the OX to be useful and enjoyable?

[nocturne rune]

Ahh, okay, thanks

[grand shuttle]

Vulture or Fortune? Which is better?

[crimson grotto]

have they fixed the mole yet? dont wanna buy it if the UI is still broken

[crimson grotto]

are you by your self?

[grand shuttle]

mostly solo

also, fortune and vulture are salvagers

[crimson grotto]

Id say the fortune cuz it has easyer loading and offloading but i think the vulture is faster at salvage

the vulture i think can breakdown bigger ships tho

[compact plank]

Me too

[crimson grotto]

i think it still is :/

[random patrol]

I started out using the Vulture so im biased. I see more of them then I do Fortunes...

[grand shuttle]

leaning that way myself

wiki shows a rental price but it doesnt look like its actually available anywhere

[random patrol]

Yeah you cant rent the vulture.

https://finder.cstone.space/ShipShops1/34077e67-5e2c-4903-a17c-2d0e163751c7

[normal venture]

You cant rent it from Teaches?

I swear ive seen it at Teaches in Nyx

[atomic vine]

Question for chat

The goal is to save for an Argo Mole and upgrade the lasers, probably close to 9 mil.

Do I buy a prospector, upgrade and do smaller mining runs?
Do I buy a vulture and do salvage?
Do i rent an Argo Mole and deal with its shitty lasers for bigger hauls?
Use my Argo RAFT and do hauling? (I have had bad luck with this so far)

[plucky ridge]

If I have a hull c, can I pick up multiple hauling missions from a single pickup point and it will load all the missions I picked… to then go to each of the drop offs and it will select the right stuff to unload? Or not that intuitive and only one at a time

[plucky ridge]

I love the raft and its smaller cousin golem ox.

[atomic vine]

I do too but i run into a lot of disconnects and issues that result in me losing cargo

then i wasted time with no money to show for it

Mining does seem to be more consistent but im relying on getting good rocks, and the Rented Mole doesn't have lasers strong enough to crack big rocks

I don't know how the vulture gameplay loops works so i'm not sure if it would be better

[plucky ridge]

Ya that’s why I do hauling missions. Low risk. Low reward but predictably consistent.

[wraith tree]

you find this better than a mole and 8 bags?

[tired meteor]

i dont like soling the mole

and 10 rounds of those is like 100+ cargo

[echo lodge]

It works some of the time, sometimes it bugs and wont deliver all or pickup all but its half working

You can alwasy check external elevators for whats missed

I often pickup 8 at a time in Pyro and hop statiion to station, some wont fully complete but still enough for 25-75% completion

[atomic vine]

I guess maybe i should look up some cargo hauling routes and do those for cash then

i wasn't planning to solo mine with the mole, but i did want to figure out the best way to make cash to buy one

renting a mole is ass because of the inferior lasers though

[echo lodge]

Member Medium Hauls from Red Wing in Pyro arent bad for a Hull C

[atomic vine]

I have a RAFT

[echo lodge]

Then Coalex in Stanton or REd Wing in Pyro both work

Covalex you could fit a good few smaller ones if you are wanting money

Like a station to city and back

300k-400k a run 6-8 contracts that are a couple scu each if you just want money

Stanton is nicer for that

[atomic vine]

I always end up having to go to Teasa Spaceport in Stanton

[plucky ridge]

You can pick up in everus and go up/down to the planet. I do it in a golem ox. Three Member Small missions that all pick up in everus and deliver to the same three locations with different resources. Makes like 350k in 30 min.

[fossil pier]

Noob here - Just done my 1st mining run - How do I get rid of Inert Materials?

[still sleet]

Go to the Ore Sales terminal next to the Refinery terminals and sell there. You’ll get 5-10 aUEC. It clears out your bags.

[grand shuttle]

Am I doing something wrong? I am landed at the delivery location for a local hauling contract and it wont let me use my tractor

[random patrol]

Next to where you start your refinery orders.

[plucky ridge]

So I have a bunch of old items from failed courier missions. Can’t sell them as now they’re considered stolen etc. can I sell them in grim or somewhere else or do I just dump on a planet somewhere?

[grand shuttle]

yes

both of those are things you can do

[compact kindle]

How profitable is mining nowadays?

I used to love it 4 years ago when I played, now certain trade runs in my raft can do 2M profit which is insane

[grand shuttle]

like commodities, or hauling contracts?

[compact kindle]

Commodities

6m investment but 2M return

[plucky ridge]

With high risk of disconnect and elevators eating your shit before you can trade it

[compact kindle]

That

Ended up doing a character reset, might do prospecting this time around not sure how profitable it is though or what to mine

[wet moat]

last time i played i made 2M with 2 or 3 Mole fillings

[compact kindle]

can you solo a mole or still need to do it duos?

[wet moat]

solo is a bit more work than a prospector but i like it

[plain silo]

Does anyone know where to find a good thing to find ship parts, a youtube or website, bc I wanna upgrade my nomad to improve my hauling but I don't know where to find good parts

[echo lodge]

Erkul can show you some

Anything miltiary can only be found, but the rest will show what shops to buy

[subtle valley]

stealth too, no?

[compact kindle]

whats up with having to find parts now

[subtle valley]

you've had to for quite a while now

[compact kindle]

its been 4 years used to just be trips across stanton

[plucky ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/where-are-you-where-you-been-under-a-rock-living-under-a-rock-verwers-gif-15417326

[pearl juniper]

As of a year ago when contested zones first released, high end stealth and I think all military components are loot only

[atomic vine]

A buddy of mine salvaged a Constellation Tauras and it had quite a few SCU boxes of material including a 32SCU box of 40 tons of Iron

Do i refine this or sell it at a TDD?

If i do refine it how do i do that? I put it on the freigh elevator and moved it into the station.

[slate spruce]

If it says iron, then you can sell it at TDD. If it says iron(ore), you need to refine it - go to station with refinery, send down via freight elevator, select new refining job with source in the station

[atomic vine]

Ahh ok, all of it is meant for the TDD then

thanks

[slate spruce]

Depending on where you are, you can also sell it to some station (i.e. most stations in Pyro buy iron, usually at slightly better price)

[atomic vine]

Hopefuly 40t of Refined Iron has a nice price too it

[slate spruce]

Around 64k aUEC

!tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[random patrol]

I suggest UEX over Tradetools....

Tradetools gets its data from UEX

Both are useful IMO though

[atomic vine]

ok so, according to UEX Terra Gateway in ST has the best price?

[random patrol]

Looks like it

Im the one who updated the price yesterday...

[atomic vine]

Thats good cause i didn't really wanna go to Pyro

I'm just moving some of the cargo boxes for my friend, it was his salvage rights

[random patrol]

Yeah with materials like that id stay in stanton unless you are already in pyro...

[atomic vine]

How do you update the pricing? I'd like to help keep it accurate lol

Found it

Can i leave it on the ship when i sell it?

[random patrol]

If you are going to sign up I suggest also joining the UEX discord....the link is on the website.

Leave what? the iron?

[atomic vine]

yeah all the material

[random patrol]

Yeah you need to store the ship though

[atomic vine]

I'm assuming the TDD kiosk is in the Cargo Area?

[random patrol]

Galeria

[atomic vine]

ah how do i check the price of the sale again? i marked it but cant cancel it to check it

[random patrol]

It should come up once you sell it

[atomic vine]

I got it, market value is still accurate

i was trying to get the aUec per SCU so i could input it into UEX

2,121 per SCU

74.2k total

[deep bison]

Is the profit for like mining, and trading likely to go down or up? It feels like it's super cheap to repair and refuel and everything, are they ever gonna make that feel like it matters or is it gonne be a minor thing till the full release or whatever? (also salvage doesn't feel good right now)

[deep bison]

but at least running some routes and contracts in my zeus feels alright

[random patrol]

Historical prices for refined ores have more than doubled over the past year according to UEX

And cmats have gone from 2143 per scu to 9783 in 12 months on average.

[ionic oasis]

how does the reward money for a haul get split between 2 party members? Buddy and I did a 222k hauling mission and I only got like 125k while he seemed to get the full amount.

[deep bison]

I noticed it was like insanely higher. I've played off and on, but I played pretty heavily, back when it was just stanton olisar and my beloved titan.

I remember things being way cheaper. Have costs for stuff gone up a bunch too? because those seem about the same if not less.

[random patrol]

Cost of what specifically?

[deep bison]

Mostly like upkeep and repairs and whatnot?

[random patrol]

I think they are the same. Honestly I haven't had to spend much other than refueling

[plain silo]

I’ve been seeing a lot of talk about a wipe soon, what’s the likelihood of it happening bc I just started and don’t want to invest too many hours if it’s just gonna reset.

[rough basin]

The game is a public alpha test under constant revision/development.
There will be recurring wipes of various types for years.
If you wait for the wipes to end before playing, you may be waiting a while.

[still sentinel]

Its nice with the wipes tbh, I like an occasional reset, it is just like Seasons in the old Diablo and other games.

On another note, guys, Mining - I haven't really done it before, I tried a little hand mining, but I'd like to try out Quant mining, seems like its highly profitable and in demand, plus mentally relaxing too

[plain silo]

Also what is the nyx system theme, Stanton is lawful and mega corps whilst pyro is criminal and pirate stuff, what’s nyx about?

[subtle valley]

independence?

[still sentinel]

What is the new mining Meta for Solo miners?

I have 2 options I was told were viable:
Newb build: Prospector w. Hofstede S-1 + Surge
Harcore: Prospector w. Helix I + Focus III & Surge

All builds: Swap MISC for Argo ore pods
Palisade Shields + Stealth components for the rest.

I figured Quant mining is the bomb right now to alleviate market requirements, any guides/advice out there? Videos seem to be outdated and speaking against eachother.

[slate spruce]

There are some exploits that allowed users to gain billions. The cheaters try to muddy the waters by throwing money at random people, so it's likely that once the exploits are fixed, there will be a wipe to restore balance. I'd suggest focusing on levelling up reputation, that's not affected and thus shouldn't be wiped.

[slate spruce]

Nope. The economy team stated in some recent post (when talking about the wipe etc), that the income is intended and there are money sinks planned, but until they're introduced in game, we will see higher money influx compared to spending.

[olive gull]

glad to hear, I agree there is no point on a wipe if the exploits aren't fixed, cheaters will simply dupe back to millions just hours after the wipe and nothing would change.

[slate spruce]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/20964-This-Week-In-Star-Citizen

Apparently there will be a trader mini event starting this Wednesday, with updated prices/commodity availability 😮

As Star Citizen continues to evolve, we will also be experimenting from time to time with smaller, time-limited changes to the ‘verse that do not require a full patch release. The first of these rolls out this Wednesday as Commodity Trade Boost. Due to recent increases in large-scale capital ship combat and their subsequent destruction, two vendors in the Stanton system have gained access to increased quantities of highly sought-after resources, including Atlasium. While they may be selling it with a suitable markup, these vendors are also interested in purchasing several other resources above traditional market prices, at least until they have what they need.

[onyx trench]

The cadence of wipes has drastically been reduced. There's a lot of rampant speculation about another one coming up but probably not until they fix more important underlying exploits. If you're just getting started, I wouldn't think much about the wipes since it's more important to learn about the systems and expand your knowledge base overall. Don't get too invested in the ships you acquire in game. But likely still many weeks until a wipe; maybe months. Truth is nobody knows so it's not really something you can plan for or mitigate.

[sour folio]

Mannn I just want salvage prices to go up a bit, If they do that. I'd be very happy

[bright temple]

What are the best guns to install on a vulture to help with blasting shields, powering down generators, breaking in doors etc on abandoned ships?

[jovial matrix]

Attritions. I wouldn't worry about shutting down powerplants using your guns, thatll take somewhere between awhile and forever depending on what ship you're shooting, instead just use the guns to open a door so you can go inside and turn it off there

[bright temple]

Attritions are better than havocs in your opinion?

[jovial matrix]

Yeah. Attritions never run out of ammo, and they're more consistent

[deep bison]

Does this mean they've noticed all the capital ships i see everywhere?

[iron oak]

Am I right? If I wanted to run a trade route and SC Trade Tools is telling me to go to a Mining Facilty on a planet--I can only use ships that can fit on that little PB landing pad right? I tried to do one last night with a Cat; and I landed on the large pad where I usually do freight elevator stuff--the trading console didn't see the Cat at all.

or am I wrong that for those facilities I can trade but its to freight elevator and self loading, not auto loading?

[limpid sluice]

Self loading at outposts, no auto load

You can only auto load at places where your ship can be stored

[iron oak]

TY!

[crimson mantle]

For SC Trade Tools, if you only want to trade with auto loading, you can set the minimum security to "hangar" in the location filters 😄

[quiet atlas]

any ideas on why i cant get the main list to work in the reclaimer so i can access salvaging and cargo bay

[runic hazel]

TDD not working in lov. does not see caro on raft

[mild pumice]

Tbh the RAFT is so easy to unload I'd just do it manually and sell from storage

[vestal ravine]

Any ideas when the new fungus trade event starts??

[olive gull]

after the patch

[merry olive]

13 years, the cargo boxes still drop through the floor, *sigh

[pearl juniper]

It starts TODAY. it ENDS when the patch releases. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/pricing-surge/8596572

[limpid sluice]

hard to be excited about this event with the economy as it is

[onyx hare]

where are the best new routes

[mild cloud]

Anyone doing solo life on a Polaris? I was talking in CCU about using it as a carrier for a golem, salvation and an ox. Has anyone done this? How did it go, what's good, what's bad?

[crimson mantle]

!tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[crimson mantle]

*for the current patch, not the current special event

[onyx hare]

so not for what I was asking for

[crimson mantle]

Well the event is to buy the in-demand commodities and sell it at Brio and Delvin, so SC Trade Tools can tell you where to find a good seller 🙂

I'm expecting supply will run low on every close shop, so the optimal route will change quite often.

[cedar gull]

I have extensive experience with the Polaris, but I'm never solo!
For the current state of the game, the Polaris definitely works as a carrier, although it's debatable whether that kind of gameplay is efficient.. Since the Polaris is quite slow, and it takes a very long time compared to smaller ships to actually get on and off! Add in the extra time of running to the hangar, opening the top hatch whenever you want to "undock" one of your carried ships, and it adds significant chunks of time to your gameplay!

I literally timed runs for the Polaris vs a Zeus CL (optimized with fast A-class quantum drive).
At NB Hangar, from hangar elevator entrance to pilot seat using most efficient path:
Zeus CL - 36 seconds
Polaris - 97 seconds

At NB Hangar, from landed engine start (already in pilot seat) to successfully landing in hangar (Zeus) or docking (Polaris) at Pyro Gateway:
Zeus CL - 5 minutes 39 seconds
Polaris - 7 minutes to 8 minutes 30 seconds depending on how skilled you are at docking

Also, you're always at risk of CIG fulfilling their original promise on capital ships - for them to have high running costs (fuel, wear and tear, etc).. CIG never designed the Polaris to be a solo mobile base, so you have to keep that in the back of your mind as we move closer to 1.0! It's hard to predict what CIG will do, but their intention was never for the Polaris to be effective as a solo carrier..
Perhaps the Ironclad Assault will be a better choice for what you want to do! It will still be quite large for a solo player, but it can do carrier stuff nearly or as well as a Polaris, plus have a safer buffer against CIG making capitals super expensive to run eventually! And it's quite a bit cheaper in terms of store price!

CIG's statement on Polaris for non-combat use!

[mild cloud]

This is the best and most helpful answer I've gotten so far (not saying the others weren't helpful) but the level of detail... Thanks so much I already have an ironclad pledged and was debating ccu'ing it to a Polaris. I think I'll keep it

[cedar gull]

You're super welcome! 🧡

Another thing to keep in mind!

The Ironclad Assault I believe has repair/rearm facilities for vehicles and spacecraft!

So it is probably a step up from the regular Ironclad for carrier-based gameplay!

At the cost of cargo space and some fancy internal tractor beams..

[mild cloud]

I was just thinking the regular may have more room for an extra ship or something like a nursa

[cedar gull]

That's possible.. Although the ability to rearm ammo/missiles, refuel, and repair could be more useful.. It's up to you!

I'm not sure how the lost space is used on the Ironclad Assault honestly!

If you actually enjoy hauling / cargo stuff, the regular Ironclad is definitely preferable!

[mild cloud]

I'm worried about 2 things, does the assault rod still open? Does the repair/rear apply to only ground vehicles or doors it include ships? You wouldn't happen to know would you?

[cedar gull]

The wiki says:

Also it has a fabricator for making ammo, vehicle components, and other useful things, which could be very useful for carrier gameplay too!

What do you mean by assault rod?

Do you mean roof? If so, yes!

From the official CIG Q&A!

[mild cloud]

sorry roof

if thats the case that might be worth it, i cant get the ccu yet anyways so i suppose i can look at it when it releases and get it maybe as a warbond ccu

[cedar gull]

Yup, maybe you'll have another chance before release.. We'll see!

[mild cloud]

on another note is the game down? i just tried to log in and my only option is go back or characher customization

[cedar gull]

I have no idea, I haven't logged on today yet!

https://status.robertsspaceindustries.com/ Looks green!

[mild cloud]

strange, char repair fixed it

[cedar gull]

Hmm, I haven't experienced that one before.. Glad you got it figured out though!

Time for bed, good night! Feel free to ping me on any questions if you have more! 🧡

[mild cloud]

thanks

[grand shuttle]

fwiw, rsi status has been green 100% of the time since I started playing last month, even when servers have been completely doa. I've got better info from down detector:
https://downdetector.com/status/star-citizen/

[cedar gull]

Interesting, thanks!

[mild cloud]

Are the sensors on the Zeus es that much better than say the Asgard, a cargo ship or the vulture? I was thinking of searching planet side for wrecks and than if I find something good I can qt back to it with a hauler

[pale grail]

where should i sell my salvage?

[grand shuttle]

Is there some trick to getting components out of their little closets when scavenging? it keeps trying to snap back in

[left ore]

Unlock ports from the ship's pilot chair (F-menu "unlock Ports" or "RightAlt + K")
Pull, as much as possible, in the direction of the arrow that appears when you engage the tractor beam. That's the "pull this way to detach" arrow.
Maybe you already know this. I've never had your issue.

[grand shuttle]

When I try to pull, things tend to get stuck or wedged in the space for them. most of the time I can eventually wiggle them loose.

[left ore]

remember you can use R button with mouse and mouse wheel to rotate the object when you're tractoring (:

[random patrol]

Is your salvage refined?

[merry olive]

can you refuel the HullC in space ? without landing ? somehow ?

[jovial matrix]

yes, if you dock to a station you have the option to refuel/repair/rearm, just like in a hangar

[bright sundial]

where do i sell RMC? it isnt showing up in the TDD

[bright sundial]

you have to refine rmc?

[random patrol]

No

[bright sundial]

thats good to know lol where can i sell rmc tho? its not showing up in the TDD

[random patrol]

Did you check UEX?

[random patrol]

https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/recycled-material-composite/tab/locations_buying/

[bright sundial]

thanks

[cedar gull]

If you want the exact detail, the Zeus ES's radar range is..
5.26% longer range than Asgard and 18.7% longer than Vulture for EM/IR sigs!
11.1% longer than Asgard and 25% longer than Vulture for CS sigs!

That means if a Vulture would detect a wreck (CS sig probably) at 10km, the Zeus ES would detect it at 12.5km!

All that is subject to change though, since what we have is a placeholder.. Eventually CIG will rework scanning/radars/exploration to be totally different!

[near swallow]

Little note for haulers, the Caterpillar can't take off when fully loaded without using boost, and can't maintain level altitude without boost. Found out about this from a Reddit post and tested it out earlier. And then made an IC for it.

[delicate girder]

Can't buy a Salvation in-game yet?

[jovial matrix]

pretty sure you can't

[covert dome]

anyone got a fix for the reclaimer undock bug?

[mild cloud]

Sometimes you can wiggle them through the hill than Eva to go grab them

[mild cloud]

Thx

[cedar gull]

No problem!

[mild cloud]

So I think the es could be good for scavenging components. I need to find a good way to leave way points to wrecks though, can you qt to something small like an atls or drsgonfly

[cedar gull]

I've heard you can, yes! People leave things to make bookmarks!

[tired meteor]

are the asteroids in pyro more valuable?

[olive gull]

for mining? no, not really, stuff is well distributed

[vestal ravine]

I was going to do some hauling with the Polaris and could not release from the docking arm...

[severe sentinel]

No 😅, but if you put out landing gear or activate VTOL you can escape, if it's the bug you're talking about

It's tricky and sometimes dangerous, but that the claimer life, became the danger...

[grand shuttle]

Are there still contracts to gather harvestables?

[covert dome]

Yeah it’s the bug lol

[severe sentinel]

You can just dock on a big station (with XL hangars) and claim the ship. When you'll retrieve it, it'll be in a hangar

[covert dome]

claiming it is the thing I was trying to avoid because of the massive timer

[severe sentinel]

And for refuel and repair in little station you can just land on a pad

[compact kindle]

anyone else having issue with mining where the optimal and overcharge rings wont load

[severe sentinel]

When you dock and store ship you have no timer

[covert dome]

yeah but if you pull it back out it’s still docked

[severe sentinel]

I've used the wrong word that's no claim but store sorry

[severe sentinel]

No, if you do it in station with XL hangars

No problem

[covert dome]

tried it at nyx gateway and it still stayed docked

[severe sentinel]

I do that every day on Levski or ruin station

[covert dome]

which stations have XL

[severe sentinel]

Yes that a little station

You can have the information when you choose the station on the starmap you have the commodities with icons like refueling XL hangars ect

[covert dome]

oh nice

[severe sentinel]

(sorry for my broken English btw lol)

[covert dome]

I’ll take a look - ideally it would be a station with a refinery

[severe sentinel]

Levski mate

[covert dome]

your English is better than some native English speakers I know :p

[severe sentinel]

You have all of it

[covert dome]

yeah but there’s no salvage contracts in Nyx yet

[severe sentinel]

No need contracts I can give you the good place

I'm a full time salvager

[covert dome]

oooh please do

[severe sentinel]

I make a loop, start from Levski go to gateways (Stanton or pyro)

Scan the zone

There is always abandoned ships

[covert dome]

hm will try that again, i usually don't have luck

[severe sentinel]

If there nothing go levski you'll jump out approximately at 50km from the station scan again

If there nothing go other gateway

Ect ect

[covert dome]

will give that a try

[covert dome]

vtol and landing gear doesn't work, guess i'mma have to claim it

[severe sentinel]

Try Alt + N

To contact the station

And ask for a take off

[covert dome]

yup did that too

gonna have to claim

landing gear wouldn't even deploy

[severe sentinel]

Maybe mobiglas -> contact -> station landing services

Or keep push N and go forward

[covert dome]

tried that, i think i also called from MFD

engines won't move the ship

i think it's bugged bugged 💀

[severe sentinel]

Strange

I struggle sometime but always succes

[covert dome]

yeah everytime i've had this before i could move and detach

this time engines aren't responsive

ah well headed to levski so i can claim it at an xl

[severe sentinel]

Yup

Levski no problem

The real workers station

[covert dome]

ill let you know

if the gateway tip pands out

[severe sentinel]

Yup it will

[severe sentinel]

Levski - Stanton gateway (scan All around near the gate) - Levski scan again - Pyro gateway same, and repeat. If there nothing bedlog change server

[safe dirge]

hopefully this is a good channel to ask, but: Is the Hull-C usable yet? I remember there being a lot of bugs that render it unusable. Haven't played in a couple years, wondering if I should give it a shot again or not.

[verbal tangle]

From what I hear in global, the auto loading works 80% of the time, 54% of the time. Jokes aside, I see a lot of people still using it in global, but as a general statement I would say be prepared mentally for the possibility of having to manually load the ship.

[safe dirge]

Understandable. I will probably melt it down for something else then. I am patient, but not THAT patient.

[verbal tangle]

Only complaint I see regularly is the having to manually load it on occasion, or manually unload it. Not sure what other bugs existed in previous states.

[safe dirge]

I just remember having to fly it inside a cube and sit perfectly still or you get crimestat for holding up traffic or something. And it would never load correctly and then you go to unload, and the same thing would happen, or you would never be able to call in for a space to unload everything. It was weird

[verbal tangle]

Yeah, I don't hear anyone complain about that stuff, so I could hazard a guess that you're fine in those regards.

[covert dome]

was sitting in my reclaimer, minding my business, waiting for hanger to open and it blinked out of existance and i fell 🙁

[merry olive]

my hull C is in my large hanger in extended mode, i got in and tried to fly, not working
i tried storing it and recall, still extended, not working
what do i do ?

[merry olive]

mine worked for like 8 trips (tressler/everus), loading, unloading
then i tried to dock and refuel and it exploded, soo ....

stll needs workarounds: turn engine off/on, wiggle joystick a little, assing parking brake button in keybinds and on/off, coupled mode, get out of seat, ... but then it works, most of the time, every time ...

Cargo mixing works now
PS: listen to the voice of the lady on comms, no matter what your progess bar says, when she says on comms "finished" then it's finished

[jovial matrix]

if you can't get it to retract its spindles, I think you're going to have to self-destruct it and claim a new one

[merry olive]

after storing it a third time it got eaten by the elevator and exploded ❤️
getting a new one in 15 min 🙂

[jovial matrix]

Well, I'm glad it worked out in the end lol

[merry olive]

Asking the Stanton Hauling peeps, what route do you use ?

Tressler->Everus->Tressler seems good and fast, just 1 contract at a time (2 overall)
Baijini->Serap->Everus->Tressler-(empty)->Baijini seems like a lot of hassle but more money ?

PS: Covalex Shipping, Experienced

[near swallow]

If you're buying your cargo, that's commodity trading. Hauling are hauling missions these days. I don't really do commodity trading, so I don't really have any routes.

Hauling missions could potentially fill in some blanks, but higher level missions are locked behind reputation

[merry olive]

Coralex contracts, i am on

[normal venture]

Where is the best place to take a reclaimer to take out CMAT?

(Stanton salvaging)

[severe sentinel]

Near the gateways

There is always abandoned ships

Or maybe you want sell your Cmat ?

[normal venture]

Specifically dropping off for refining since none of the refineries have XL hangars.

[severe sentinel]

I would say loreville

But I'm not a Stanton expert

The best place for claimers is Levski

(for me btw)

[next idol]

hI! its been a whilse since my last game, is there anythign new for salvage? what about the % of salvage on the reclaimer, did theyy chanbge it or we still get 15% after refning?

[severe sentinel]

Still 15%

And you'll have new salvage mission with 4.6

[near swallow]

The Reclaimer can dock at any Stanton station, so you can go where you want to as long as it has a refinery.

But a refinery will only see boxes that are on the cargo grid

Oh, and you need to store the ship after docking.

[random patrol]

Terra gateway since it has external cargo elevators, a refinery and they buy the refined cmats. You can use Pyro or the Nyx gateway but I picked Terra because of the limited traffic. I suggest having a friend help offload since the boxes can easily fly off into space if you are not paying attention.

[severe sentinel]

I think he would like to unload in a hangar

With the famous reclaimer's Poop hole unload

[random patrol]

Thats no fun.

[near swallow]

Trying to unload a Reclaimer in space is the last thing I'd want to do. If I had to unload it, I'd probably unload in my personal hangar, putting the boxes in a cargo elevator, swap ships, and load onto a cargo ship. But that's a lot of work to just avoid docking.

[random patrol]

Ive helped other players countless times unload....and I dont require $.

[wet moat]

In space is the easiest way to unload the reclaimer. Just trough the container out from the back on put them on to the elevator

[near swallow]

Trying to unload a Reclaimer in space means risking someone else stealing it for one thing. Or potentially blowing it up. Or stealing the boxes. And while getting someone to help sounds like a good idea, if you don't know the person well, then you might end up getting "helped" by someone who actually intends to rip you off.

[pearl juniper]

Pyro or nyx

[candid stratus]

@near swallowrefineries needs xl hangars

lack of those is what mainly pushed me off from salvaging its twice more work to load it to cargo ship

[near swallow]

Not really. The Reclaimer can dock and then be stored. Then you refine the construction material on it. What is an issue is the Reclaimer's salvage hold cargo grid.

[candid stratus]

@near swallowwell grid is maybe 20% of what i load on my reclaimer booxes are everywhere lol otherwise its totally unprofitable

[near swallow]

Assuming you have more boxes of construction material then will fit on the salvage hold cargo grid, you then have to retrieve the ship after doing one refinery order, go put more boxes on the grid, go do another refinery order, and repeat until done

[candid stratus]

but why not xl hangers at refineries they are meant to handle huge ships ....otherwise add refineries to some planet starports it would look sgreat for lorville to have refinery imho

[near swallow]

In theory you could put stuff on the cargo grid in the cargo hold, but moving stuff there isn't so easy. The Reclaimer needs a major rework.

[wet moat]

never widnest somone stealing my stuff its already rare to meet others, Unloading in space is supert fast and defenitly worth it

[near swallow]

I've had people try to steal my stuff and steal my ship.

[candid stratus]

@wet moat dont think so doesnt ur boxes fly away is ther egravity?

[near swallow]

In Armistice

[random patrol]

You have crappy friends then.

[near swallow]

They weren't friends

They were strangers who were at the same location at the same time

[candid stratus]

yeh and u cant do shit in armisitice to stop em from picking ur stuff

[random patrol]

1132 SCU offloaded at Terra....15 minutes

[candid stratus]

@random patrol external elevators have gravity?

[near swallow]

Also, smaller refinery jobs mean they finish quicker

[random patrol]

I had a friend outside stacking the boxes.....he even had me slow down because I was dropping them out so fast

[near swallow]

If you have someone you can trust to play with, then you have more options

[candid stratus]

@random patrol well i wondered we talked bout solo reclaimer yea with crew it would work solo is useless

[near swallow]

Not everyone has anyone they can trust who plays SC

[random patrol]

Ive helped complete strangers unload

They trusted me and now we are friends

[near swallow]

Then you got lucky

People have gotten scammed doing that, on both sides

[random patrol]

Yeah well its part of the game....youre more then welcome to add me and ill help 100%

I dont need the $ either....I just like playing

[candid stratus]

@random patrol yep but we should have option to do this relatively safe solo

[near swallow]

I don't really need help with that particular thing, I don't fill my Reclaimer up like other people do

[random patrol]

Its a heavy salvage ship.....IMO meant to be filled up

but to each his /her own

[candid stratus]

@random patrol and meant to land at refinery hangers...

[random patrol]

What "refinery" hangars are there besides Pyro and Nyx?

[candid stratus]

its what i am talking about Stanton need XL hangers at least on some refineries or planetary refineries

[random patrol]

Well this is what we have right now....so you either work with whats out there...or you dont.

[candid stratus]

otherwise u have twice more work for same money

[near swallow]

The Reclaimer was actually meant to cut ships up into pieces and, it seems, store the pieces underneath the salvage hold until they were going to be processed. The Reclaimer was concepted before they had a good idea how they were going to do salvage gameplay.

[random patrol]

TBH the addition of the external cargo elevators changed a lot for me

[near swallow]

That rear hatch that people use to unload the Reclaimer is actually the salvage lift, and is meant to run on rails on the bottom of the Reclaimer. But like many other features, it doesn't fully function.

[random patrol]

Whatever the Reclaimer was meant to be...its not that way now....so we use it...or we dont. Its pretty simple

[candid stratus]

@random patrol external pad/elevator should raise forcefield cage when used so u can safely load/unload

it already bond elevator for u so why not forcefield?

[random patrol]

Yeah and the roads should be paved with gold...

[candid stratus]

imho its just idiotic so such factories operating huge resource amounts like refineries do not have xl hangers

[random patrol]

What station in stanton has XL hangars?

[olive gull]

all a pirate needs to do is to sneak patiently till you load your boxes on the external elevator, then simply push the down button, and all you hardwork is now mine! ,.., 🦹‍♂️

[near swallow]

Technically I think there was one that had one on it's model, but it wasn't functional. Somewhere out around Microtech.

[candid stratus]

@olive gull nope elevator is bound to person landed at pad from what i heard

[random patrol]

Doesnt work....we tried it.

[candid stratus]

not sure if its true tho

someone who raise elevattor is bond iirc

[olive gull]

Pirate Sad tears 😭

[random patrol]

It gives them an error

[near swallow]

At outposts at least, multiple can land on a pad at once. And I've used an elevator when my ship was not on the pad, because there was no room.

And someone tried to steal my cargo.

[candid stratus]

@near swallow on outpost its bound to person who raised it iirc

its why they are often blocked with error if someone left something on elevator

[random patrol]

yeah its not FFA at the terminals....it would be more chaos

[candid stratus]

anyway how salvage works now when ships tend to blow up not softkill? only contracts?

[near swallow]

There are plenty of abandoned ships around. Scan them, if they're owned by GameRules, it's free for the taking.

[random patrol]

Even if they arent GameRules

[near swallow]

If they aren't owned by GameRules, then you can get CS

[candid stratus]

mhmh ,wonder how ppl now get ace helmets if ships explode lol

[random patrol]

No you dont

I looted a vulture and a c1 yesterday....no CS

[near swallow]

It depends whether they are online and press charges

[random patrol]

You get the "tresspassing" warning but thats about it

[candid stratus]

if pilot is online there is no gamerules tag iirc

[random patrol]

Ive never had them come back but it could happen

[near swallow]

An abandoned ship becomes owned by GameRules if you put a claim on it

[random patrol]

The vulture had a full load of RMC.....so I cam back with my ox and took it all

[near swallow]

So, any ship that you have left out somewhere (say, possibly damaged) and do an insurance claim on, the old copy becomes owned by GameRules and is locked to you.

[random patrol]

its not locked to anyone

once its gamerules

[near swallow]

Locked as in, the doors won't respond to you trying to open them. Same for anyone else.

If you want to get in, you have to shoot your way in, if the doors are closed.

[random patrol]

gotcha....You can still get it....just shoot the ramp/cargo entry open

Yup

[near swallow]

I once had to shoot my way into my own former ship, because I died inside the ship when trying to swap undersuits. And I was trying to swap undersuits because I'd retrieved my corpse from an accidental wreck and wanted to swap out the beacon suit. (This was a while ago.) But swapping undersuits was fatal for some reason.

Taking my helmet off was fine. But not the undersuit.

Places like Brios used to be, and may still be, good places to find abandoned/wrecked ships for salvage. But they're also risky.

[subtle valley]

where's brios, pyro?

[near swallow]

Stanton, Daymar IIRC

[subtle valley]

oh

[near swallow]

Brio's Breaker Yard, a salvage yard on Daymar. Used to be a place people went to sell weevil eggs.

Which used to be available as cargo from certain missions, like (I think) VHRTs.

Or actually ERTS

And apparently right now it's a place to buy Atlasium.

One of only two places in Stanton where Atlasium is available.

[severe sentinel]

And if the comm array are activated or not

[near swallow]

As an industrial player, if I see that a comm array is down, I'd either stay within hard armistice, or get the heck out of there.

[severe sentinel]

Same job but different style. I spend all my time between Pyro or Nyx, I avoid every armistice zone, and crimestat system. It's not good for salvaging 😉

Sometimes you got to run ! 🤣

[near swallow]

If I'd wanted to, I could probably have salvaged an abandoned Hammerhead along with a bunch of other ships at a Stanton Lagrange point station I was at yesterday. With the station nearby and comm array up.

The ships were not within the station's soft Armistice area.

[severe sentinel]

Talking about that, battlefield salvage mission still exist in Stanton ? Few years ago in unverified salvage mission you could take it for 200k fee and it gave you the localisation of a space battle remains full of wrecks and cargo. The trick was when you took it, another player could also have it in pvp mission.

[near swallow]

I have no idea about that. I tend to stick to legal missions. And I figure the old Hammerhead mission, where people would just fracture and grab the construction materials and then do another one, is why we now have to refine construction material before we can sell it.

[severe sentinel]

Yeah that's what I call "Street salvage mission" scrap'n'run 🤣

I never done legal mission btw

20k fees for a constellation no thanks

[near swallow]

The fees have gone down

[severe sentinel]

There plenty ships leaven alone around the verse for free

[near swallow]

I made almost a million aUEC salvaging 1 C2. Because of it's cargo.

Granted, I ended up bringing my C2 there to unload the thing.

[severe sentinel]

Nice

When I was at Ruinstation, I was doing "the Pyro Crab" technic, with a SRV I towed some ships or cargo leaving alone around the station and grab them into my hangar. I made lot of creds with a full egg Hull C who has been destroy in front of the station.

It was long to take the crates but it was worth it

That's why I don't like armistice zone

[plush oasis]

A question, I heard a rumour, that the mole is broken this patch, as ind you can't change the mining head on it. Any use the mole who can confirm?

[subtle valley]

that was previous patch I thought

[slate spruce]

Changing the head/modules when the ship is stored works flawless. No idea about changing in the field though.

[blissful flume]

Can u auto unload your salvage or manual. I'm a few patches behind

[river helm]

is commodity trading still broke in 4.5?

[jovial matrix]

grimhex

[random patrol]

In the 6 months ive been playing sc I can honestly say ive never been to grim hex...nor do I need to go there.

[granite sparrow]

Anyone here a proficient quant miner, im honestly struggling to crack these rocks with windows no thicker than a hair

[vestal ravine]

The bigger ones need a gadget. You using a Mole?

[granite sparrow]

Yeah current setup is a mole with helix 2, double surge, c3, 2nd laser is klein, 3rd is hofstede

Using sabir on the big rocks

It's just the instability is insane with how small these windows are for optimal

I keep popping them slightly overloaded and loosing tons of quant

Trying to learn so I can teach the rest of my org how to mine it, we're currently going for Idris but with only me doing mining ATM it's very slow

I've managed like, 30scu in 2 days casually

I need 1200 haha

[plain silo]

How good is SC trade tool for finding trade routes, like is it often that where they recommend actually doesn't have much supply or is it reliable?

[random patrol]

I suggest using UEX and check how long ago the data was updated.

[plain silo]

Also, I am at rustville but I can't find the trading post, any idea where it is?

[mild pumice]

Normally inside the garages

But I imagine you found it after an hour lol

[pearl juniper]

It's decent. The biggest thing to remember is that it won't show you all of the trade routes possible, just maybe the top 12 or so. So you have to play with the filters a lot to see other options. Supply is hit or miss for sure, even if it was up to date 5 minutes ago, someone may have bought it all since then. Keep in mind supply is (I believe) regional, so you are competing with people on other servers for it.

[plain silo]

Well it took me around an hour, but I resorted to scouring the internet to find a YouTube video with only a couple hundred views which shows where it is🤣🤣

[crimson mantle]

If you find yourself travelling poorly-supplied routes, you can always try a higher number in the filters, misc, extended view, min inventory capacity.
You'll have to turn off smart filters as it already tries to make a guess of that value 🙂

[near swallow]

The highest paying routes are likely to be the ones most used. Those websites do not get realtime info from the game, and commodity stocks are not shared across the whole game, just by region, so stock info isn't really that useful. Going for routes that aren't quite as profitable would be the most likely way to avoid shortages, or to use sources that have a high stock limit on a commodity.

[pearl juniper]

sometimes you get lucky though. Last night I bought 48 Degnous Root at Shepherd's Rest in one go

[near swallow]

I'm a little amazed you got into and out of that location intact, from what I've heard it's a major murderhobo spot due to it being used in a starter hauling mission.

[pearl juniper]

it can be. I haven't been there in months, and I remember it being super hot last spring, basically couldn't go there without getting into a fight. There were a couple other people there, but all was peaceful.

I didn't go there planning to trade, I actually grabbed an interstellar haul that went to Sunset Mesa and Shepherd's, figured why not, what's the worst that could happen. It went smooth enough, so I checked the commodity kiosk and it had full stock

[near swallow]

Pretty much every time I went to a planetary POI in Pyro, I got attacked if not killed

I don't go to Pyro anymore if I can help it

[pearl juniper]

If your Pyro experience was all last spring when it was new, give it another try. In my experience people have chilled out a little, plus there are more areas now that are a bit more "PVP encouraged" (Hathor, Lazarus), so it takes the pressure off of the random POIs

not that I spend a ton of time there, but it does feel a little different than it did early on

[near swallow]

The only thing that would make me even want to go to Pyro, would be Wikelo stuff. But that of course is all going to be at PvP hotspots, and is apparently mostly intended for large groups, even though the rewards don't scale.

CIG seems to really be pushing PvP as hard as they can. Even this little "price surge" event is intended to create PvP encounters, what with the two locations where you can buy the rare commodity being the scrapyards, which are PvP locations.

Not to mention the OP Boomtube that can one-shot even an Asgard apparently.

[tired meteor]

this is gonna be fun

[pearl juniper]

You say that like it's a bad thing. There's tons of PVE content in the game. Probably 100+ mercenary missions, hauling missions for days, salvage and mining, Onyx and QV facilities that they did their best to make PVE by putting in so many of them to simulate instancing before that tech was in the game, etc. Most of the events are mostly / all PVE as well. The fact that there is an event going on that encourages PVP is probably WHY I was able to get in and out of Shepherd's Rest last night... Just like when the local drag strip closes down and all of a sudden there's more street racing, PVPer's gonna PVP. Give them an outlet for it and you are probably going to see less "griefing" in the game.

[near swallow]

The events are generally PvP fests, even when it's supposedly an event about hauling

You don't get more rewards when you have more people playing, so that encourages competition rather then cooperation.

And hauling mission variety is not that great when trying to raise your rank, probably because lots of people are taking them and they're not refreshing fast enough. I've had a hard time finding any hauling missions worth doing.

[pearl juniper]

I cannot think of an event in the last year that was a "PVP fest". Supply or Die had a PVP option that you could do in the deteratrine or whatever it was, I never tried it. I completed all four tracks of Resource Drive and never saw a single bit of PVP, and I never saw any in any of the other events last year either that I can remember.

[near swallow]

In Supply or Die you could kill other people, steal the commodities they bought/collected, and then submit them. I got killed a couple times during that.

Granted not when I had a full load of good stuff

[pearl juniper]

You could. It never happened to me but yes it could.

[near swallow]

There was a lot of PvP going around during that

[pearl juniper]

OK, that's one example. Where's the others. If the events are "generally" a PVP Fest, that means "most of the events are", and I would argue they "mostly aren't"

[near swallow]

Align and Mine, people competing over the ore