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sonic fiber
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Nevermind

wet moat
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Got 1184 scu Cmat salvage + unloading in about 3 hours thats about 1,7 mill + 1 Hour of transport to bring the stuff to a selling point

Thx @random patrol you tip to turn off the weapons realy helpt. I havent had a crash since doing it

random patrol
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Hopefully it wont be an issue after 4.5 but ill still turn mine off regardless. kekw

wet moat
random patrol
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Hopefully itll make it on time. Where did you take it?

wet moat
random patrol
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Max lift didnt work?

wet moat
random patrol
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Yeah its 50/50 on that for some reason.....I dont know why

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maybe its your proximity to the cargo elevator....who knows

wet moat
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Idk, I never had this bug on Nyx gate way and never at levski. only at the HUL stations and Pyro gatway

gritty quiver
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Any word if the reclaimer refining percentage will be fixed in 4.5?

next idol
random patrol
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Cig mentioned and update in pricing for mining and salvage

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So hopefully

gritty quiver
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🤞 thanks.

void nova
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Top spots for quant mining?

vestal ravine
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Just finished getting 400 scu of CS in 3 batches in the refinery. Used a Carrick took 2 hours 35 minutes to complete from Orison. Never again it was hell. Mostly size 16 crates. Edit, The raw ore terminal did not see them...

humble merlin
zenith maple
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there is a pinned post that has a link to a site, dont think there is anything else

next idol
vestal ravine
vestal ravine
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Last night I experimented with loading 20 size 16 scu crates of Construction Salvage into the side cargo bays of the Carrack.

I had to get this to the Refinery asap and well this was a difficult loading job and took 1 hour 35 minutes to get 18 into the side bays and 2 in the garage area of the ship.

The main hang up for easier loading is your position is lower than the lip of the door that folds down. So maybe a Nomad could be used in the hanger to grab the crates or if we had a scissors lift in the game.

I also had to go inside the catwalk and even down in the cargo hold to manipulate these crates. I had heavy armor on and while working in the little elevator lift my avatar totally stopped working. None of the number keys did anything so I took off some of the armor still didn't help repair the number key functions only an Alt F4 relog fixed it.

Unloading was faster only an hour extra and I divided the crates into 3 refinery jobs of 14, 18 and 21 hours.

I hope they give the door hinges a second pass and make them lower down about 2 feet further may really help out. What do you think? What tips do you have? Thanks!!

vestal ravine
copper apex
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So what do these new refining changes do?

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Did I read correctly that it effectively nerfed refining?

random patrol
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Less output but increased sale prices. Sounds better to me

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Yeah I'd say this is a marked improvement. Saw this in another discord from RC2 4.5 at area 18.

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85.3k per scu

copper apex
copper apex
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Just hit yo a few other discords

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The price increase doesn't out way the loss in refinement

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They effectively nerfed mining..... Again

random patrol
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25 scu of quant refined at old price = 722,181

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25 scu of quant at new price = 960,626

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And yes I know Polaris bits are going for at least 400m per on the marketplace

copper apex
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I honestly just wish they'd get rid of a lot of Wikelo stuff or not make it as irritating

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Because even with an entire org working on it for over a week, we only have like 25% of the shit needed

random patrol
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A whole week

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Working on a polaris?

ionic briar
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That seems reasonable for the largest ship current in-game.

scenic hornet
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Fellow Hull C'ers , what missions are you guys doing rn?

Interstellar isnt worth it for 150k flying from stanton to pyro...

pearl juniper
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Funny to me how much everyone bitches about wikelo, yet the same people will be excited for crafting. Wikelo IS crafting

limpid sluice
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I only hate it for the extra steps and unreliability

pearl juniper
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I bet there will be bugs where the crafting machine eats your materials too. What extra steps? Having to craft favors and then turn them in for something else? That's a pretty standard crafting mechanic that a lot of games (and hell, real life) uses.

red sierra
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wikelo is mostly cosmetics and it needs a few more QOL passes but it's better than it used to be lol

pearl juniper
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The bugs do suck though, I feel for the people turning in huge amounts of stuff and getting nothing

random patrol
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Ive been playing for 6 months straight and ive never been to wikelo

red sierra
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my group just spammed the worm and sold those parts to buy the rest

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we didn't do a polaris tho lol

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did they ever fix pure carinite or is it still a nightmare

random patrol
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All that work...just pay the 600+ for the ship

pearl juniper
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Or... Play the game?

limpid sluice
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Hopefully CIG has learned from the experience thus far, but we'll see

coarse ember
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i want to kill wikelo but nice to see them put out a test for crafting so they can figure out the most annoying/impactful bugs first hahhhhh

modern laurel
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Hi all, I recently accepted the contract "Cargo Hauling Opportunity with Ling Hauling" which rewards 222,250 aUEC.
It was to pick up Stims, Distilled Spirits, Food and Souvenirs.

I had picked up from 2/4 locations, and whilst collecting the Souvenirs from, I think a comms array near Crusader, it's not a landmark station as seen on a map.
Alas, whilst there, I am unsure if other players shot at me first as I landed (with hand wepeons), but I shot back. But it appears NPC were shooting at me as I shot and killed about 5 with no crimestat. I eventually got shot and died meaning I was unable to complete the mission. Is this normal, as the mission didn't provide a risk of death. And why no crime stat for shooting and killing what could have been NPC's at a station? also, why was I shot at to start with?

valid lintel
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Does anyone know the meta commodity to trade currently?

limpid sluice
glass dust
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where you can buy the big hand salvage tool?

wet moat
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nearly every shop in cargo and refinery areas of the stations

mortal cedar
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Is there a space station with a refinery and a loading dock to unload from the Reclaimer?

coarse ember
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i think? terra station has external freight you can unload the reclaimer onto

spare cloud
mortal cedar
spare cloud
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Don't ask me again, use the fantastic resources you just learned about.

mortal cedar
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yep I've been researching it thank you

quartz crow
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Do the hull c hauling contracts not show up if you don't have a hull c? I was able to take some during iae when I rented a hull c

peak wyvern
limpid sluice
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Iirc, it always rounds up

onyx trench
frosty scarab
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If I keep my gold in the local inventory will I lose it in the next patch?

pearl juniper
frosty scarab
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Aight aight thanks

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There goes my plan to be rich

pearl juniper
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well, most of them. Gems seem to be one exception

tall karma
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Some people manage to keep commodities between patches, no idea how. I'm curious to see if the patch will wipe all my cryopods.

pearl juniper
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the RNG giveth and the RNG taketh away

frosty scarab
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Fr but is the mole still bugged? Last time I checked I couldn’t change the mining heads

tall karma
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It is on 4.4, rumor says it is not on 4.5.

frosty scarab
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Thank goodness

royal spear
quartz crow
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Did they go away after iae? I know they existed then

red geyser
royal spear
quartz crow
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I did something with a rented hull C where it auto loaded with the box thing

royal spear
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You can stil ldo that with any hauling contract

quartz crow
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oh ok

royal spear
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it's just that the contracts that are designed for hull c and paid well are gone

cunning valve
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hey guys. ive been having some bad luck with hauling contracts recently and I'm curious if you all can help me with which contracts to avoid due to bugs?

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a few times recently I've done pickup/dropoff contracts and when I lower the Freight Elevator, the contract completion seems to work but then half the supplies don't register in my mobiglass contract screen

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I'm currently running Junior contracts trying to level up rep quickly

next idol
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4.5 live

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did they fixed the salvage refining?

vocal pebble
next idol
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so if you refine 100 scu you get only 15 scu refined salvage

vocal pebble
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To refine scrap do you have to take it to stations or can the reclaimer refine material on board?

next idol
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I guess the refinery if it still going to be it will be added for the reclaimer rework

next idol
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howlky cow

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now with the reclaimer you can just dock at the station and refine from the cargo grid

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so just by docking and having the cargo on the grid you can just refine from there (I need to test it but I saw a youtuber do it)

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sadly it seems the % its still wrong

delicate girder
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Did 4.5 fix the construction materials refining so you get 85% instead of just 15%?

next idol
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I’m not home to test it

rose goblet
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Our Mole lasers are switchable now yeah?

fickle kraken
# cunning valve a few times recently I've done pickup/dropoff contracts and when I lower the Fre...

Pay attention for the names of the materials.
Calculate the scu you need to deliver vs what they give you at the start of delivery.

If you want fun, I would stick to most random locations.

If you want to grind rep/money.
Stick to missions that go from orbital station to the planet big city and what goes from planet big city to orbital station.

If you grind rep - do maximum rep mission available(massive difference)
If you want to grind money - stick to what takes less time to fly/dock. Most time consuming is not moving boxes, but actually to land/queue for hangar/fly somewhere.

fickle kraken
rose goblet
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Ugh. There aren't any surge modules at the Pyro gateway in Stanton. Boo

royal spear
# fickle kraken In the end, it is fun per hour isnt it?

eeeh the hull series ships are hideous to me and I don't enjoy using or looking at them. The self loading doesn't have the appeal of stacking boxes and restriction of only going to samey space stations with it kills any potential joy of discovering locations and seeing planets/moons. Not to mention that stacking missions with the auto loading is problematic and annoying. I'm struggling to find any reason to pull my hull C out these days as there is almost no joy left in it and no real money to be made that can't be made better by other means or even other hauling. Trading might be good but again you are heavily restricted where you can trade with it so eeh. I'm just glad I never managed to convinced myself to pledge of one of the hull abominations and just have a loaner.

fickle kraken
# royal spear eeeh the hull series ships are hideous to me and I don't enjoy using or looking ...

I would gladly enjoy having a hull c at:
1.Hovering above a planet site(for example mining facility), and I deliver boxes from it to the ground or reverse.
2. Having hull C floating around while we do scrapping, so there is a lot of space to keep scraping.
3. Having hull C picking up big ship components/pirate boxes from pirate stations that are inside asteroids.
4. Having hull C fly around orison platforms to deliver cargo from one place to another.
5. I would gladly play as hauler, to move boxes from your hull C to the station exterior space elevator, flying in a small ship with tractor beam or in suit. Or stand on landing platform with atls and just scoop them from hull C as you rotate.
6. I would gladly have hull C holding empty sacks for mining and swap them around for people that mine nonstop, while we organise all that mined material around unfolded platforms, an when they return we swap their sacks. Or give them different mining equipment because of different rock they have found.
7. I would gladly deliver A2 bombs strapped to Hull C to the place where active war operation happen that they bomb the place, so I have to restock A2's on the orbit, and they come and go.
8. I would gladly do chain mission with you, where I have to protect your ship from pirates that only shoot distruption weapons to steal your ship/cargo and by no means harm it. They intercept us in quantum for example, or when you about to deliver to rival gang, they attack their asteroid base.
9. I would gladly haul unstable commodity with you for several days flying only on hydrogen fuel because we cant use quantum jumps. Sleep on board, use beds to log off together, cooking, managing supplies, deal with space insanity or being intercepted, try to negotiate players to come help us to save from npc pirates, hold corridor for hours untill people come to save us, being grappled by their surv and pulled away to their station..

Hull C can be fun

royal spear
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It could be. It isn't. cat_shrug

rose goblet
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Where do you get the Rieger C3s? Struggling

spare cloud
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Levksy

rose goblet
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ahhh of courseeee. Ta

royal spear
random patrol
rose goblet
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Yeah - zooming off 🙂

random patrol
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@rose goblet I suggest using uex to search for items and mining components.

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With the new patch items need to be updated and that takes a little bit. As a datarunner I know its time consuming kekw

wet moat
# royal spear They never officially acknowledged that it wasn't supposed to be 15% by design. ...

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/190048/thread/star-citizen-alpha-4-5-ptu-patch-notes-11/8537301

Considering this post. I don't think the 15% were a Bug.

I really think they just didn't rise the market value enough

sonic fiber
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This patch they are supposed to have adjusted it

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Smaller refining results, but increased prices

royal spear
royal spear
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Quant is only minable in Stanton right?

random patrol
sonic fiber
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Ie 1000scu of rare refines to 1. 1000scu of common refines to 500

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But value is same of 1 and 500

royal spear
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Yeah I got the bit that they are shrinking yields but ye.. I'll reread it later

royal spear
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What's the fastest component shopping ship? I need to wizz around and grab components and bring them back.. thinking like a c1 but not sure if there is a faster ship for it

spare egret
pearl juniper
deep bison
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So they said commodities got increased in price, does anyone know how much they went up by?

random patrol
sonic fiber
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Too soon probably

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Go shopping and check for us

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At levski doesn't look much different. Cm 8k

spare egret
random patrol
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At least in stanton

sonic fiber
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Hopefully they add a in game market board some day

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Someone says docking refining works at least. From reclaimer

median crane
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if im roc mining what would the go to materials to go for??

wet moat
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Staton and pyro both have it but pyros the planets have a higher possiblilitiy to find hit

median crane
wet moat
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than go to ignis
The best plenat in Stanton has 50% but ignis 100% posibility to find Feynmaline

median crane
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ok an does it need to be refined or anythign like that?

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and because its been so long since ive roc mined can i transfer the materials to a bigger box or am i limited to the storage or the roc or the ship im using

wet moat
median crane
wet moat
median crane
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there any way to fix the mining laser on the roc? the laser isnt lining up with the crosshair and i cant see the fracture progress properly

onyx trench
# spare egret so nobody knows anything about this?

0-8

Chance for 1 node mainly but you can get a second spawn and get 2. Rarely, you'll see a third and very rarely you might get multiple spawn per ore wave. Each node gives 2 pieces. Expect 0-2 per hole. You can expect 0-4 if you are lucky and re fire the laser.

onyx trench
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*me

left ore
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Did the Vulture ever create non-empty Cambio SRT canisters? Any way to fill a repair tool from the Vulture’s hopper instead of salvaging the hull like a barbarian?

tribal lake
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is salvaging working? im in my fortune and its not letting me use my scrapping beam or the tractor beam

spare cloud
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And, are you in an armistice zone ? 🚫 sign in top left corner.

sonic fiber
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Tried mining with golem and got nothing when collecting

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Broke rock fine, animation to harvest, shows scu scale, but nothing went into the golem

rose goblet
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Power cycle and exit and reenter ship

rose goblet
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You should also power cycle and get out of your chair after switching Mole pods

steady swallow
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Did CIG make it so with a Reclaimer we could dock with a station and refine the CM straight from the cargo grid that is full of CM?

next idol
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I need to test it but usspodeflt yu can just dock now in any station with refinery and from the refinery panel just refine from there

jovial matrix
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well Isn't that convenient

next idol
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reclaimer solo ship xD

wet moat
# next idol yes

Only from docking or also stored? And does it only shows the grid or also the off grit container?

next idol
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stored should appear I think

vestal ravine
rotund apex
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Hey guys i want to justr do some cargo hauling in polaris given that it has alot of scu i am just wondering how do i do something like that while at a space station because its docked how do i load cargo

next idol
rotund apex
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Ah fair enough

wet moat
earnest pike
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is selling quant to people actually worth 51 bill lmao?

jovial matrix
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apparently that person is willing to pay that price lol

fickle kraken
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I think people just want to spread their duped money and maybe hoard some marerials if they think they could be carried over to a release

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Also I think quantanium is going to be main target when processing minig ship arrives

craggy tapir
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Ngl
I dont bother to do stuff
I wanna mine or salvage in style rather than to profit

snow oasis
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what're some more reliable methods of making money when I only have access to a C1 and C2?

leaden reef
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for example, compboard 5 worth about 5 billion right now

snow oasis
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dunno what that is or how to get it, also I would prefer more legitimate means but I'll do that if I have to

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granted, seeing as it will be wiped anyways due to bugs, I'm not as opposed to indulging as I normally would be

leaden reef
snow oasis
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never done a contested zone

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interesting

leaden reef
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for legit most people would say stack small hauling contracts

snow oasis
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"without glitches/cheats" seems generous when it is the direct result of a glitch/cheat

leaden reef
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that would mean all trading is bad

snow oasis
snow oasis
leaden reef
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wait, what investment

snow oasis
rotund flume
leaden reef
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no evidence that it's ex

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exploited money

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maybe they sold armor for it

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strange logic

deep bison
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check what the price was for the same thing in 4.3 and see if it looks unnaturally inflated, if it's more than 100x up, it's because of exploits.

royal spear
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mining laser on mole not firing at all. Was working earlier today.. any ideas?

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fully powered and turned on

fierce harness
royal spear
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I don't even..

fierce harness
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Yeah idk fix

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Very annoying

royal spear
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I think I'm done this patch fr.. 4 crashes while trying to mine one patch of rocks and on the last reconnect I fall through my ship...

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can I go back to ptu plz? That worked flawlessly.

fierce harness
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Yeah not gonna lie mining last night was not enjoyable

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Sound bug every other rock. Mining laser just deciding not to work, etc etc I was very sad

royal spear
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not even just mining at this point the crashes are relentless. Both vulkan and dx11. I don't know what else to do

random patrol
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Ive been salvaging in my reclaimer....no issues

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I wanted to see if they had changed the 15% CMAT ordeal....and no it didnt change....it is still 15% refined

next idol
fierce harness
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Sounds has been there since last patch

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Tbh it tends to only happen when I pop a active

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If I use both surge and stampede I'm 100% getting sound bug

rocky summit
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whats a good golem build?

untold hull
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If I buy a commodity from a ground mining facility, is there an auto-load option or do we always have to manually load the goods purchased. My ship isn’t showing up as an option. Just me and the location. I haven’t played since 4.0 was released.

spare cloud
untold hull
spare cloud
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Yes

still sentinel
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Speaking of Cargo hauling, how do you load a ship fast? I find it extremely time consuming trying to load even a small amount of boxes.

untold hull
# still sentinel Speaking of Cargo hauling, how do you load a ship fast? I find it extremely time...

I have a loaner Cat since I bought the Ironclad but I've never used it to haul cargo until today. After retreiving it for the first time and landing plantside without issues, I painstakingly load that thing with 240cu of Quartz. It was painful to load. I get in the cockpit to get my profit and the freaking ship has some sort of engineering error with a countdown from 160 seconds until it becomes critical and explodes. I run around the ship desperately looking for some engineering to manipulate but it explodes. One of my more disappointing moments in this game. I have no idea what happened to cause that.

fierce harness
royal spear
fierce harness
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Well then idk. Engineering is funky

snow oasis
snow oasis
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handheld tool has no range, atlas has a lot

rose goblet
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Just noticed, if your Mole has quant in it and the timer is low, there's a red flashing light visible from outside

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My refining jobs don't appear in the console when I hit "confirm" - any ideas?

spare cloud
rose goblet
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Anyone else having refinery issues?

rose goblet
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Arg, my Golem's work order was accepted, but the Mole was not, just drops me to the select again

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Ok, taking off the pods and putting them in storage and refining from storage worked. Weird.

rain tinsel
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So the multitool with mining attachment has never worked for me. Until now, I really didnt think it was an issue. But for some reason all I get is a red X and it says module. This is with the mining attachment installed. It doesnt matter how many times I install and uninstall it, or how many I buy. Is there a keybind I am missing here?

snow oasis
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shipping sucks beacuse you can be in the middle of 6 contracts and then you game crashes

pearl juniper
snow oasis
pearl juniper
covert cypress
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is refining from a Mole broken? Two dif stations now, several dif methods tried - never starts the refining job. Can see ores in the ore kiosk though.

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nvm, seems the Mole is just busted again =\

tribal lake
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Can I mine solo in a rented mole?

median crane
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is there a way to transfer cSCU boxes to regular SCU boxes? so im not having to move so much at a time

red granite
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though I'm assuming you mean 1/8th SCU hand carryable boxes

median crane
fair sinew
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should be able to put them into a bigger box in the FE or storage access terminal

median crane
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oh ok cool thank you so very much

languid fulcrum
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Quick question, how do you take a Hull C from a lagrange point refinery, and load it with said refined materials from the station inventory? I dont entirely know/understand how the Hull C's auto loading works

languid fulcrum
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Like, box by box? By hand?

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Surely not man

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thats fuckin 4000 scu

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theres no way to utilize the auto loading mechanic?

fair sinew
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divide by 32 that's ~125 boxes

languid fulcrum
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jesus man

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And what if the lagrange point has no external freight elevators?

fair sinew
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you'll have to transfer from another ship then

languid fulcrum
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classic

snow oasis
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true gameplay

median crane
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Any one else have issues with the roc mining laser not matching up with the crosshair.

fickle kraken
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Alt+z?

wet moat
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Were can i buy currently hofstead 2 laser?

lusty bane
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so where is best to mine now? Any updated commodity site? What astreroid type is best?

coarse ember
royal spear
royal spear
royal spear
wet moat
fast timber
fast timber
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woooo

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tysm

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finally

tall karma
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It's one of those 4 person ships everyone uses solo, but would really benefit from multiple people coordinating loading and unloading

austere canyon
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where would be the best place to sell my pressurized ice?

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i have a c2 full of it

austere canyon
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they arent updated yet are they?

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was just at baijini and it gives me about half of what i paid

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so a net loss

spark thistle
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any1 acessed hunting quests this update?

mild cloud
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ive always picked stanton but im thinking of finally giving pyro a go for my home location, where is the best location?

fickle kraken
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Can not recommend, everything looks like a shithole

mild cloud
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i do like starting on a starion rather than a planet though

fickle kraken
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Well I think then it is depends what faction you are alligned with, what ships you have, what kind of missions you want to do

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Because if you plan to play some fps missions that is one choice.
If you want to be closer or further to/from certain location for X type of mission or place

mild cloud
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i ended up going ruin for the asteroid belt

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ok on a side note has anyone else noticed that the salvation does work with abraides?

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trawlers not working either

median crane
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how do i get the atls geo boxes into 1 or 2 scu containers? i havent done it before

tall karma
median crane
tall karma
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They can also be carried so you can carry it, open the inventory on the 2scu box and drag it out of your hands

median crane
tall karma
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In the inventory kiosk just double click or click on the arrow in the bottom left on the SCU container and it opens another loot window that you can drag items into from the station inventory or personal inventory

shadow zephyr
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I'm having an issue where I can't start a refinery order, I select the materials, choose the refine type, accept the quote, and then nothing happens, still shows the ore in my ship

shadow zephyr
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thanks!

tribal lake
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What’s the best ore to mine now. Is quant and Tarinite still the way to go?

wet moat
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i like Lindiium because its pays as much as taranite and i feel its less rare

tribal lake
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Where’s that at. Nyx?

wet moat
tribal lake
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Thank you

wet moat
cunning valve
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I’m trying to do member cargo hauls and my cargo isn’t coming up the freight elevator. Tried at Baijani point, didn’t work. Flew to Everus Harbor. Didn’t work. Any ideas?

median crane
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is there a ship i can use that can mine the same rocks as an roc or atlas geo?

median crane
# wet moat No

well frick im still having issues with my roc and i dont wanna do the atlas geo for time sake...

median crane
# wet moat No

my laser wont match up with my crosshair so i cant mine properly and if i use the laser on a rock i cant watch the charge meter of the rock

wet moat
mild cloud
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I had a bunch of rmc stored at everus, would it still be there after the patch?

mild cloud
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Well I'm glad I didn't make the trip from pyro to get it lol

mild pumice
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Lol yeah that would've been a wasted journey. Everything that was stored in LTP will be at your new residence, unfortunately commodities and consumables are never saved.

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Speaking of commodities, how are people finding the rebalance? I did a little 32scu run in my Zeus ES earlier and made a tidy 100k profit. Just a mining outpost to LEO

mild cloud
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Nice what were you hauling?

snow oasis
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what're good trade routes rn? trade tools hasn't updated

next idol
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also they also need to update the tracktor beams in the ship to work more like the pistol ones

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but also the economy rn its not good enough for certain game loops to even pay someone else to do that

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im baffled how they dont have anyone in their company that can just fix the auto load system in general, it seems like when they changed to physical cargo at the middle of the workl the only guy that was working on that just left the company or something

tall karma
next idol
tall karma
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I used the Hull C before hauling missions existed which is when you start doing hijinks

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Like trying to partial load and haul stuff planetside

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Also used it a lot during supply or die

distant crow
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HUR-L1 isn't buying Hadanite, where the best price right now? Anyone know off hand?

tribal lake
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Look up star citizen trade tools, they have a page dedicated to where you can look up the best place to sell stuff

rose goblet
#

How do people run their Mole? I've got heavy cracker on the front - 2 x C3s and a focus, and on the side, single C3s and single Focus. Wondering if I should differentiate the sides somehow. In a useful way

leaden reef
#

ship tractor beams will have ATLS-like functionality

bitter ferry
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Doubtful tbh

mild pumice
#

Would be nice lol. I absolutely hate the sway and wobble, it's very uncomfortable to use them right now. I'm all for realism when it makes sense but not when it just adds motion sickness lol

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I wonder how horrible it is in VR hahhhhh

soft quail
#

We could really use some parking sensors when landing/docking big industrial ships.

rose goblet
#

How do I get the pod off an ATLS?

soft quail
#

Landing a reclaimer into a hangar is pretty much impossible without going into 3rd person

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Is there a place to post suggestions to the devs? Like if someone has a really good idea that would improve gameplay?

leaden reef
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Spectrum

wet moat
#

How do i open the component doors in the mole?

spare cloud
wet moat
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tho i can only repair them at a station?
Just paid 160k to repair the part dameged buy over energising astroids, that the parts cant be repaired by hand is kinda mental

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Also could it be that levski´s Ore selling point doesn´t buy toride?

pearl juniper
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The high repair bill on the mole is usually from having to rebuy laser modules

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They get broken pretty easily if you blow up a rock

wet moat
pearl juniper
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Interesting

mild cloud
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so trawlers dont want to work on the salvation, are abraides broken too?

pearl juniper
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You aren't supposed to be able to change the heads on the salvation, it was a bug that you could initially

mild cloud
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oh so im stuck with shitty cinch ones?

pearl juniper
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yeah. they are supposed to be locked on that ship

mild cloud
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it still lets me change them but they wont fire

pearl juniper
#

🤷‍♂️ don't buy a ship with bespoke equipment then?

lone merlin
#

Whats the best hauler i can buy with 6 - 10 mil ?

pearl juniper
#

For strictly hauling, it's hard to beat the RAFT

lone merlin
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cool, thx

mild cloud
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dont know why but the abraides are working now

lilac magnet
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please dont use gay in a derogatory way

mild cloud
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i mean in a 90's way

lone merlin
#

hull-c vs. misc c2 hercules? (is the hull c broken?)

wet moat
#

The C2 is not from misc its crusader

lone merlin
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umm yeah

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but still

wet moat
#

At the moment there are no Hull c missions.
So it might be better to get the c2

lone merlin
#

@wet moat cant you just do any hauling missions with the hull-c?

wet moat
lone merlin
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gotcha

static island
#

Where do we get the rieger C2 now? Is it just nyx too now?

spare cloud
#

Maybe, but there isn't a good reason why you'd want a C2 instead of C3, which can be found in Levsky.
If the reason is price, save more money.

static island
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Because getting to levski is usually suicide so far

wet moat
raw shell
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I see players are buying quant @100mill/scu. Is this legit? Why the high price?

storm storm
#

they just want their items, money isnt a thing for them

raw shell
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That makes sense, thanks

static island
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I tried 4 times to get to levski in the last week. Got interdicted each time

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The murder hobos are truly making this game boring

jovial matrix
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try jumping to some other place, and then jumping to levski

narrow horizon
#

Ok so is there a new bug with terra mills? Sent cargo down and it disappeared, can't select any storage in the commodity terminal either

spare cloud
worthy mist
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quant is a damn bitch to find in 4.5

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not like it was in 4.4

wet moat
wet moat
mild pumice
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If I go to Levski I usually pick up a box mission to avoid the direct route from the gateway.

rose goblet
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If you see the interdiction alert, kill all system power immediately. Good chance you drop out of warp 100s of Km from the threat.

modern osprey
#

or just hold left mouse button and drop out if QT the normal way

safe ermine
#

Has anyone gotten any pure carinite recently?

stark shuttle
#

hi

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what can i do with cargo that missone is failed but cargo siting in my hangar inventory?

rose goblet
#

ignore it, throw it out of your ship. I think that's about all

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I once took a whole raft load to an OM and dumped it while a guy watched and asked if I was ok 😄

stark shuttle
#

cant sell or enything?

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salvage?

rose goblet
#

There's some server mainteance and stuff going on

verbal ridge
#

there's a few "no questions asked" terminals where you might be able to sell it for a fraction of it's normal price, but I've heard it's not worth the effort

rose goblet
#

Damn it. I REALLY have to remember to put my helmet on more often when I'm Mole mining!

spare cloud
royal spear
#

I wonder if mole will stay with these weird exposed mining arms or get something more airtight when gold passed

stark shuttle
# spare cloud ARGO MOLE if you wanna be specific. They're acronyms.

i melt my useless argo. and and bough 3 very useful vehicles, atlas, constallation taurus and last one cant remember its fast combat ship and but i can now make easyly money , i couldnt make eny money with argo cos when you searched materials about 10 min and you needed refuel ship ( its should be industry crade ship ) what a joke 300+ euros

wet moat
stark shuttle
wet moat
stark shuttle
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i remember i found mostly gold 😄

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trash

lone merlin
#

if people on the marked are buying quantinium, do they mean refined quantinium (guess so) ? and are playerd also buying taranite or bexalite?

wet moat
# stark shuttle trash

thats the porblem. Gold is absolutly ok to take. Its on the low end of the A tier stuff but it makes you still good profit. It also depens on where your mining

wet moat
fierce harness
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Bro doesn't know how to mining giving mining advice PepeDetective

lone merlin
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@wet moatthanks

fierce harness
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Gold stocks PeepoStocks

wet moat
fierce harness
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My first comment wasn't at you dreck

fierce harness
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Gold best A tier atm

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Well was

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It's fluctuating

wet moat
fierce harness
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Yeah

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2 days ago was opposite

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So idk

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Lol

wet moat
#

ah ok 😅 I thought i missed somthing game changing kekw

fierce harness
#

Honestly gold is the worse to mine of the bunch so it being the best was less then optimal

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Friday gold was mid 20s and Bex was worst

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So it's jumping

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Maybe it's stable now

wet moat
fierce harness
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If it's jumping that much for sure monitor

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Did a pure gold run of over 1 mill on friday

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Would be worth half that today

lone merlin
fierce harness
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That's your mining site

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Uex is for player trading

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Fake money

lone merlin
#

umm....but on the link i gave you you can see gold price and sauch

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such*

fierce harness
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Yeah u can

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Uex works also

wet moat
#

Both give you prices
UEX gives more information about trading and selling your materials but Ragolith gives you informations about the refinery and the minable rocks

lone merlin
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can i predict somehow on one of these sites where a material is "in demand" ? bc tdd in orison wont take my taranite

fierce harness
#

How care them not take your Terry Taranite

crimson mantle
lone merlin
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got it, thank you

wet moat
#

Like @crimson mantle said. Its not accurate

crimson mantle
#

Sc trade tools has the data in numbers too. Sometimes "half full" when full capacity is 50 is not as useful 😄

fierce harness
#

I mine to crack big rocks... the selling is boring part... one day I will just pay a cargo Bob to sell it

fierce harness
#

Pyro mostly

wet moat
fierce harness
#

Alot depends on if solo or not... some planets have heavy weather factors that push your mole around when solo and I don't like dealing with that

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Nyx is alright

lone merlin
#

@wet moat would you recomend mining around levski with the prospecotr (helix 1 / focus 3 + rieger c-3?) it didnt feel too good the one time i tried (was in 4.4 tho)

lone merlin
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@wet moatis that a planet`?

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@wet moatim not too familiar with nyx yet

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oh wait theres no planets in nyx

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oh hofsted is a mining module 😄

lone mountain
#

is scraping or fracturing the best method to make money with salvaging in 4.5?

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also whats a good location?

wet moat
# lone merlin <@408255599164260356>is that a planet`?

its a mining head
I took it with my Pospector and a rieger c3
i could mini rocks up to 10-12k mass

Hofstede-S1 lowers the resistance and gives you a good charge window. That helps with the very High resistance M typ astroids that are the main typ in nyx

lone merlin
#

will with sabir ive managed a 17.7k rock, but last time i tried gadgets in space it didnt work (the 17.7 was on a moon)

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but ill try the hofsted then

wet moat
lone mountain
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in a vulture, so

wet moat
# lone mountain in a vulture, so

than try panals in astiod fields
Those panals fill you ship the fastest. If you need some variety you can scarp ships but that takes longer to fill your ship

lone mountain
#

fields divisible by 2 are panels right

wet moat
#

2,000 yes

wet moat
plucky ridge
#

Soooo had cargo full. Stored ship after I landed. Went to commodities manager in admin, nothing showed… went back to hanger repulled ship, all commodities were there. I think I touched two with multi tool. Went back to the terminal, showed the two containers I touched I believe, not the rest. When I repulled ship… it exploded in hangar. I’ve noticed a lot of ships moving up hanger elevator with no gears deployed. All cargo exploded with it too. 1M gone. 😔

buoyant ruin
#

So frustrating @plucky ridge lots of issues with ships ASOPs etc

vestal ravine
plucky ridge
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Consistent every time?

#

Where does it show up under the commodity storage? Whatever the station you’re at?

vestal ravine
plucky ridge
vestal ravine
plucky ridge
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Ty sir.

north oyster
#

The refinery yield decrease and increase of the sale price of the refined products actually seems to be beneficial to the miner. I was averaging about $120K aUEC per refinery job, the last delivery (with 4x jobs) resulted in avg of $165K aUEC per job.

next idol
#

I just wish they fixed salvage

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I wanted to get into mining but I don’t really like the mining ships

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I want a reclaimer but for mining 🤣

wet moat
rose goblet
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Hmm two boxes won't sell in Orison - both have "0" value and won't sell - anyone know why? 16 SCU of Quant and 8 SCU of Taranite.

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Same issue on another server. Hmm

earnest pike
#

salvage still worth doing solo?

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thinking about buying a reclaimer

next idol
#

BUT, now you can just dock at any station with refinery and just refine from there without moving boxes, but they need to be on the grid

earnest pike
#

wait

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refine what?

#

last time i salvaged it was only rmc and construction mats..?

analog patrol
earnest pike
#

lame

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eh i can bear that

crimson edge
#

Looking for any tips or tricks to find quantanium. New miner here

left ore
#

Lots of good websites on mining

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Also check the pins here

rose goblet
fresh ivy
#

Where is Ruin Station's cargo loading area for a Hull C?

#

The cargo comm isn't responding for me

#

Not 100% sure if things have changed

pearl juniper
next idol
random patrol
#

I offload directly via external cargo elevators at Terra gateway....since it has a refinery also.

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Took around 10-15mins to unload with the help of a friend.

mild pumice
#

Very nice

unkempt steeple
#

so is uncut slam useful rn? like can i sell it anywhere?

eternal cloak
#

is ship to ship refueling bugged?

mossy radish
#

In regards to group mining is anything other than the mole considered suboptimal?

#

Like carrier based golem mining?

random patrol
random patrol
keen garden
#

Narrowing down what locations you check based on scan signal can significantly boost your efficiency

royal spear
#

Anyone used starfarer to refuel? I just tried to help a guy out and he docked but as soon as he did the whole screen started shaking and going nuts until we both crashed out

lone merlin
#

any tips for trading ? i went accoording to UEX website but ended up making no profit. even tho it said i should make around 300k profit

keen garden
#

Pay attention to the “last” and “last updated” columns

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You aren’t the only person looking at the best option, and thus it is only best for a short period of time

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Prices change based on how many people are doing that buy/sell, eventually reaching 0 profit

#

Best to just know what the avg prices are for a given thing so that when you go to buy you can make sure you are buying below avg, then don’t sell it till it’s worth more than that at a destination, uex can’t give realtime data because there’s no api for ingame realtime data

lone merlin
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@keen garden ok but could you explain that chart to me? It has two clocks, why? with different numbers on "updated"? also why does it say i invest 1Million and get back 3 Million? this seems wrong?

burnt storm
#

is there any like panels or ships to salvage in Nyx?

keen garden
#

Should be able to hover over the clock to see what it is

keen garden
lone merlin
#

it just says "updated" on both

keen garden
#

Just cruise through the asteroid field looking for signatures

keen garden
lone merlin
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ok, and the calculation? making 3M out of 1M seems unlikely for that route?

#

do i read it wrong?

keen garden
#

At the last updated prices, it makes sense, but it’s likely they are out of date

lone merlin
#

kk, ty

keen garden
#

It’s not an easy way to make money, not as easy as it sounds

#

You can get lucky, but a lot of the time the numbers are wrong and you just need to find your own best place to buy/sell

#

Why it’s important to recognize the prices yourself when you are buying

#

If you buy below avg it’s easier to make profit

lone merlin
#

gotcha

keen garden
#

Looking at uex I’d say don’t buy waste for more than 75/scu

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Then if you find a place to sell it for 100, you’re at least making profit

#

150, even better

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But it’s hard to make much on waste

#

9000 scu is a LOT

#

As a rookie to that kind of trading, I’d stick to what you can fit in a medium sized ship

lone merlin
#

ok

keen garden
#

More expensive cargo in smaller boxes with bigger margins

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just pay attention to where you are buying from, buying from a place without armistice might be more risk than you are willing to take

wet moat
keen garden
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Also… as an intro to commodity trading… there’s a way to get free cargo

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Go to pyro and check the merc tab for bit zero missions, they charge you a fee and give you coords to an RAB, arrive with a cargo ship, infiltrate the base while avoiding turrets, then fly the cargo ship in the hangar out to your ship and transfer the cargo. Now you have cargo to find a good place to sell it and you lose virtually nothing

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Fee is like 13k, cargo is worth 300k-600k depending on how well you can sell it

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40 scu

#

There will be some ship combat

#

Nothing a rented Connie can’t handle

pearl juniper
#

some FPS combat too, or there was when I did a couple last spring. They are fun missions though, I should go try them again.

keen garden
#

Yea, little bit

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I like to over optimize it, deliver 10+ missions of cargo to checkmate then split by type and deliver for max profit

#

Could easily just dump it all at rats nest

#

But minmaxing is fun

mossy radish
keen garden
#

I think it’s a fun gameplay style, using a carrier with a squad of players flying out, doing a thing, then landing back in, but it’s kinda rough in ROI with how the game is built at the moment. Those 4 or so golems you are carrying have a very low jump distance, making carrying them around convenient, but… your herc can’t scan for rocks very well… and once your golems depart there’s not much reason for them to ever return unless you are bringing the whole group back home

random patrol
keen garden
#

Worked a little better for us carrying fortunes on an idris, but… it woulda been better to tail the idris with 1 reclaimer

pearl juniper
# keen garden But minmaxing is fun

in the context of "if I were actual space privateer, how would I make the most of this opportunity", yes. I see a lot of min-maxing that seems to be contrary to just playing the game and having fun, but yeah, stock piling cargo and then hauling it somewhere to get the best price is the good kind.

keen garden
#

Even with an army of fortunes we couldn’t pull in the kind of rmc a reclaimer could in the same amount of time

random patrol
#

Reclaimers shoul;dnt waste their time with RMC.

keen garden
#

Plus we then had to deal with 300 1scu boxes at the end of the night

random patrol
#

Smaller ships....vultures, fortunes....100% sure

keen garden
#

I want a frame that we can attach 1scu boxes to that we can then move as a 16 scu unit

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Or 32 scu even

random patrol
#

you can put 1SCU boxes into 8's

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I wish you could do 24's or 32's

keen garden
#

I assume only inside a cargo elevator?

random patrol
#

yeah

#

its doable but.....I refuse to handle 1scu boxes

keen garden
#

Doesn’t really help with unloading the idris, 😆

#

We more or less nosed it down the best we could and chucked the boxes at the elevator

#

The reclaimer is just so much faster than fortune or vulture at scraping that there’s really no reason to even use a fortune or vulture if using a reclaimer is an option, and the same is true of the salvation vs fortune or vulture, the tuning is just not really working in an interesting way atm

#

In a world where ships to scrap are unlimited

random patrol
#

Ships you dont even have to pay for contracts either

#

I just find them

#

I dont even dock....I just land and refuel here... kekw

keen garden
#

I like the general idea, that smaller ships should produce smaller scu boxes that are more valuable per SCU, but costs overall are just so low value compared to rmc that it doesn’t even matter that that difference is there atm

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I’m of course ignoring the fact that the player market exists and the economy is busted

random patrol
#

Which is why I pray for a wipe.

#

Fix the issue and start over....

next idol
#

I didint nknow u can do that to refuel

random patrol
heady urchin
#

can we swap out ore pods on the mole yet?

keen garden
#

yes

#

But in group play for some reason (bag ownership?) the mole owner needs to bed log for it to work right after the bags are swapped

wet moat
willow tiger
#

Anyone else had issues with irreparable damaged parts?

keen garden
#

Got an example?

#

Like if I lose a wing there’s no repairing that without a landing pad,

vivid cloak
#

is there a way i can do commodity trading with the hull c and being able to auto load it all

meager jungle
vivid cloak
meager jungle
vivid cloak
meager jungle
# vivid cloak this seems to be why

I mean, I was 100% assuming everything was working as intended. If we get to keep these new payouts and go back to 20 min sale times, that would be insane. I figured the upp'd payouts was the tradeoff to manually offloading now

vivid cloak
atomic lark
#

any reason to use the ROC over an atlas geo?

fierce harness
#

Bigger bags

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Geo has to clear a bag 1-3 times a field

#

Roc is better imo because of this

vestal ravine
#

I saw some Hadanite on Cellin.

naive forum
#

just got the Golem package. Please just tell me now why I will want to upgrade it to the prospector later

fierce harness
#

Ehh golem vs prospector is close. Pros and cons both ways... my main issue with the golem is the laser adds resistance to rocks so they don't scale as well when mining in groups on bigger rocks, but again pros and cons both solid starters

keen garden
#

Prospector has an interior that can catch on fire

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Prospector can use the helix1, which allows for breaking up to 30k rocks depending on the stats of its contents and what modules/gadgets you use

fierce harness
#

Some people swear by the golem though. I am not the biggest fan of either and prefer to solo mole

keen garden
#

I almost always prefer the prospector when working on a surface with weather, but if there’s no weather im in the mole

fierce harness
#

True

#

Weather plays the biggest factor in where I mine tbh in a mole

#

I'll take less % for better weather

keen garden
#

Like why would I bring a prospector if I can bring the mole, if I run into a big quant rock I can’t break it in the prospector

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Do you have any moons you like to take the mole to? I like adir, because no weather and very thin atmo so it flies like you are in space

fierce harness
#

Yeah

keen garden
#

Terminus is not fun in the mole, even with laser operators, weather there is brutal

fierce harness
#

Naw I did Terminus for a total of 15 mins

#

And noped the hell out of therr

keen garden
#

We did bag exchanges on the surface and the wind kept trying to take the bags

fierce harness
#

Yea

keen garden
#

Forget trying to swap modules

#

lol

fierce harness
#

Yeah terminus is a no go for solo mole

#

Much better options

keen garden
#

Asteroid mining is smooth, but I feel like I find better rocks on pyro surfaces

#

We did group quant mining around terminus in the ring and only found one rock that actually needed a mole in 3 hours, the rest could have been broken with a prospector

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Was fun to see the prospector catch on fire tho

vestal ravine
#

No wind on Cellin...

random patrol
#

No wind on Lyria either

rose goblet
#

I find asteroid mining does my head in - trying to maintain a coherent alignment/bearing.

#

And so many single rocks of meh value.

#

Abandoned ships - they appearing on maps again? Can you warp to them? I wanna use my raft as a mining pod mothership for a change.

rose goblet
rose goblet
#

Hmm even ones death marker flickers in and out

wet moat
# rose goblet Abandoned ships - they appearing on maps again? Can you warp to them? I wanna us...

I read all the times about mining mother ships and i am wondering whats the reason to do it?
I mean just go to a astoid field aorund an refinery.
This way you dont need to travel at all and if the station has external elevator you dont even need to take a hanger

As a singel person its for my understanding way to complicated to use a mother ship effectively
As multible people it seems way better to youse multible miner to take bigger rocks

rose goblet
#

Just for fun

#

Load a raft with, say, golum pods, dump it in a crater. Respawn. Take a golum back nearby and run rocks and switch out the pods.

#

Then get all the pods back to a refinery. Refine all the bex, all the Taranite, and then because you have a big pile to refine the crates that load on your ship later will be larger. Easier to manage.

#

Small perk. Kinda fun to do

wet moat
rose goblet
#

I export 32 scu crates to my raft on the regular

wet moat
rose goblet
#

Yup. Refinery > Raft

#

But I only summon the Raft from in the hanger to reduce the risk the thing comes up spinning and broken

#

It's why I try to put at much as possible in the station before I hit refine so that I get as big a boxes as possible. Makes unloaded easier and quicker (because I find selling from the Raft still really buggy)

wet moat
#

tho your telling the refinery to onload directly intoo your raft?
Monday i had about 50 scu refinde lindinum and unloaded it into the station the biggest crate a got were 4 scu. (Not even talking about cmats)

rose goblet
#

Yup. Station unload is always 4scu. When you click the drop down for the unload, scroll to a cargo ship 🙂

#

But NEVER call the ship from the lobby. Heh

#

Nothing worse than seeing your raft doing donuts when you make it to your hangsr and then "claim" when you make it back to the lobby 😭

wet moat
rose goblet
#

It used to be really unreliable - but I think it has been polished.

#

So long as you call the ship from the hanger. I have found the hanger way more reliable since 4.5

#

And having to unload only a 16 or 32 and some 8s and then a few other is SO MUCH nicer than a shit ton of 4scu lol

wet moat
rose goblet
#

Haha yeah. I like having a big pile and refining, like all the Bex and this getting a couple of 32s and stuff out. And then all the Taranite. All that quant. 3 separate jobs etc. Max scu size. Easy.

#

You can just keep sending unloads to the cargo ship until you're ready to take it to market.

wet moat
#

how do you keep the full container apart from the empty?
I know that the latest container that are put into the elevator are allways the ones at the bottom of the list but i dont know if that stays after reloging

rose goblet
#

I can't do this reliably. So maybe the Raft mothership method. Or i do a run with the Mole, then bring up 8 pods, send down the full. Then I come back and send down the 8. Then I do a run with the golem and repeat.

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But I am curious about doing a raft run where I can fit whatever is on a raft. What a big job!

#

Or you could team up and send tons of pods to someone and then load the full ones in your hanger.

wet moat
#

The best way might be to store the full and empty container at different refinerys 🤔

rose goblet
#

There's a notional green bar showing pod fullness, but it lies!

#

Yes oh true. Good idea.

analog patrol
#

Use a carrier ship filled with pods & seperate the full from not full on the cargo grid with a storall

rose goblet
#

I think I'll do the El Guapo thing of dumping full pods all over the ground as I slowly drain a Raft 😂

covert dome
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where are people finding salvage these days?

analog patrol
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Any popular site in pyro.

rose goblet
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Solo mothership mining was fun. Don't leave pods, they disappear (lost 5)! Clip them back on. If argo, just rotate the ones that are full compared to the ones that are empty 🙂

naive forum
mild pumice
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Empty bags should be returned now, yeah. Just note inventory can be a bit slow to update

random patrol
wet moat
rose goblet
# naive forum Sorry new to all of this. So, you fly the raft somewhere that you want to mine a...

Step 1: Fly a raft loaded with empty pods to a surface. Not too close to any point of interest. Land. Respawn yourself:
Step 2: Summon your Golem on the station you respawn, fly down to the raft and do mining nearby (I head off in the cardinal directions).
Step 3: Full Golem? Fly back to the raft, switch out pods (do NOT leave pods on the ground).
Step 4: Repeat mining and switching until you're out of fresh pods. Jump in the Raft and fly back to the station, leaving the empty Golem behind.
Step 5: Pull all the pods off the Raft, put them in storage.
Step 6: Refine from storage, sell trash ores from storage.
Step 7: Claim Golem.
Step 8: Repeat!

random patrol
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I suggest flying the golem down first and finding a decent patch of ore before brining the raft down.

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Ive done it in my prospector.

shut robin
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where is the best place to sell what i mined or is it all the same

olive gull
rose goblet
torpid pivot
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trying to get my toe into mining, I'm closer to a mole than a golem tbh so I'm curious if it's a bad jumping off point or if I should wait until I can afford a golem to learn off of

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also wheres the better places to be mining with it, is nyx worth the hype?

rose goblet
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I would stick with a moon in Stanton to start with. Mole or Golem - both are fun

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Cellin is the classic recommendation. Yela, Lyria are others

torpid pivot
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ok cool thank you

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I've been wanting to get into mining or at least try to for a bit more

rose goblet
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It's a fun loop.

near swallow
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Mining is one of the few cases where auto-unloading (of ore bags at a refinery) and auto-loading (of refined ores direct to a ship from the refinery terminal) works pretty reliably.

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You do need a cargo ship if you want to sell refined ore though. Unrefined ore can be sold directly at the refinery, but for less.

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I got my first taste of mining with a Roc, however I don't know how well they're working right now. After that I went to a Mole. I also have a Golem now too though.

torpid pivot
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got the mole in game to try out and so far trying to modify it has been a pain in the ass :(

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the navigation is kinda bad

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and also mfw modules don't want to be dropped out of an inventory so I can attach them

fresh ivy
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Do people like the Golem more than the Prospector? Or is it just cheap?

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Prospector has been my workhorse for years but I haven't mined in a long time now

jovial matrix
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its cheaper, its bags are easier to handle, it flies much better, and its smaller, so you can fit it into a fair few other ships

torpid pivot
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I don’t like the mole, I rented it and like man it sucks to do solo, just really old and not polished

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the prospector is great though

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love that thing

mild cloud
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How do you tell if a ship is abandoned or if the person is in a bunker?

mild cloud
analog patrol
fresh ivy
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Makes sense, I can see that

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I should give it a go at some point

analog patrol
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Besides, Golem is great for mining in hostile areas/ pvp areas. It has such a small signature.

rose goblet
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You can stealth component it down to around a 6k detection range - amazing for an industrial

wraith tree
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The ironclad is going to make a great carrier for golems and salvation swarms

rose goblet
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Golems and ROC mining and so-on. Fun

naive forum
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I'm sorry, i'm not understanding. I have watched many mining videos, I bought the golem package. I have done three mining runs and refined the ore at a refining station. But it seems that no videos or information will explain why you might get the prospector over the golum, or the mole over the other two. I don't understand the use cases for the ships and it seems that no one is explaining them. Please help

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The only obvious thing is, bigger mining ship breaks bigger rocks. But is that all?

storm storm
tall karma
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No, the prospector is still a single seater...

tall karma
# naive forum The only obvious thing is, bigger mining ship breaks bigger rocks. But is that a...

There are a handful of reasons. The interior with bed makes it easier to leave game without having to get back to the mining area. The custom mining head allows for substantially more flexibility with your loadout. While the golem has a high power head you will suffer on certain rocks that have small optimal ranges, while the prospector has ways to make those much easier to crack and not blow up. For now it's not super obvious because the only reason to mine is money, but eventually crafting will make it more clear why the prospector is more versatile and valuable.

barren willow
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as a mostly pvp player for a while i have decided to add mining to my gameloop list: which head should i place on my prospector for mining? is helix still the best or is one of the other heads a viable alternative?

torpid pivot
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Helix seems so far the only one that does anything yeah

wet moat
pearl juniper
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Also keep in mind if you set up a prospector for max power to crack the biggest rocks you may end up in the awkward situation of having to recrack them to get them under 10scu, and cracking those just barely over 10 rocks with a high power helix can be really tricky.

wraith tree
wraith tree
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Idk how people solo the mole, so much chair swapping

rose goblet
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Servers seem really fucky :/

left ore
left ore
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Hi Friends. Does the Vulture have an Engineering panel? And where is it please? Thank you.

naive forum
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So it took two days of work and I mined three full loads in the Golem, refined it all, then transported it to a place I could sell it and I only got 100K out of it. What a complete waste of time. Why would anyone waste time mining when they could be hauling

random patrol
naive forum
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not to mention dealing with ten times the amount of bugs because of all the interface issues and conversions from ore to goods to transport to sale

random patrol
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100k of what? Inert materials? kekw

naive forum
random patrol
naive forum
rose goblet
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I just learned something - so long as the Argo pod is on the elevator, it won't explode. Cos the 1 I hadn't loaded did explode and almost killed me lol

random patrol
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So go back to hauling and stop crying about it.

rain grove
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Freight hangars do not respond

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no cargo to lift

random patrol
rain grove
random patrol
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Im being facetious....because salvaging does work....and so does mining.....because I did a few runs in the prospector earlier today....on lyria.....and made easily 900k+

naive forum
random patrol
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I dont bother with hauling anymore but I do enjoy salvaging Hull C's that people abandon

rain grove
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it was fun

random patrol
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Thats how I started....hauling.....I rented a raft for a week

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IMO the RAFT is a great purchase and does make some $$$

rain grove
random patrol
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C1 is a good ship also....dont knock it.

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I upgraded my C1 to a Starlancer MAX

wet moat
# naive forum Yes it is working for me on the server I am on.

tbh just look for mining guides on yt
https://youtu.be/EcABEcaZDus?si=UC6MXV5UXIjcDljF

Watch the full playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofFl4E5edsw&list=PLMd2J1iNJCMdZ1hTEqNKvaCSufAyg5pKK

This comprehensive Star Citizen ore mining tutorial is your complete guide to mastering the most popular and profitable mining gameplay loop in the verse. Whether you're a complete newcomer to mining or looking to refine your techni...

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naive forum
random patrol
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So go back to it and have fun.

left ore
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A few thoughts:
Renting ships is a great idea, especially if you don't want a "big hauler" to be your daily driver.

Regarding mining, profitability, and "waste of time": I try not to think of my time in Star Citizen purely in terms of "for-profit". It's really more of a Space Sim than a space game, and not a second job. The interactions, learning how to use mining equipment, identify rocks and resources, outfit your ship, play with the refinery, hopefully that is a fun simulation.

The economy in-game is whack right now. The money supply is all over, people are giving away billions, the payout for mining / salvaging is pretty small compared to some other tasks. Hopefully the skills you gain now will serve you well when crafting is kicking off and raw resources are suddenly much more useful and, hopefully, more valuable.
Take missions that are fun, do task you enjoy, but don't tie yourself purely to the payout. That's my advice at least.
My Org-mate recently gave me 1,000,000,000, but I still do missions because they're fun, not for the second job.

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That said, I do think there's some decent money to be made selling Quant to players if you're into that kind of thing.

royal spear
left ore
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honestly I usually end up refining it, putting it in storage, and then forgetting about it until a mini-wipe

compact plank
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No BS. Raw mining

mild cloud
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so is this maintenance the wipe?

fringe kettle
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No

mild cloud
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damnit

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any word on it?

thick folio
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Don't think they have given any formal date just yet since they want to patch as many exploits as they feasibly can before wiping. I can see them wiping with crafting if I had to guess, so they have a clean slate and they can gauge what they need to tune in that respect.

plush mortar
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Is anyone else having problems with refining? Any refinery I go to, the menu glitches out and doesn't start refining

rose goblet
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They want a couple of patches and a few weeks of data to prove that the exploits are patched before they wipe

plush mortar
rose goblet
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Bollocks. Was working ok on Aus at ARC-L1

fallen musk
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anybody know where to find/what missions spawn shivs? really want to scavenge the ballistics on that thing for my guardian mx

empty kite
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so since we have local ship inventory available in the refining screen, has anyone got their 890j to work? It just refuses to start a work order.

next idol
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Anyone knows if salvage refinery also works with the buffer or only on grin in case of the reclaimer docked at station?

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I’ve been occupied and I couldn’t play yet

coarse ember
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i believe it's just the grid

empty kite
keen garden
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I haven’t tested that myself, but that’s usually how it works. Has to be on grid for the stations to see it

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IMO it’s easier to unloaded it in a hangar

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There’s not a whole lot of easily accessible grid space

empty kite
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Yeah for prospector 890j mining ops i filled the front hanger with pods, should use the rear elevator instead as they would all fit on the grid there

keen garden
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In that situation it may be easier to use external freight elevators if they exist at the station you want to unload at

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Keep a fury or something to easily exit the hangar and push the send down button

empty kite
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should be able to dock the 890j and store it at the Lagrange stations and use the ship inventory in the refinery, I am hoping since i move the pods to the cargo grid the refinery will work like normal. Any amount of manually moving pods again out of the ship is just eating even more time

empty kite
torpid pivot
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it made me so sad when I learned that for myself

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I had last played when salvage came out so I was used to stacking it like bricks and selling the whole hold

keen garden
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Yea, just depends on how much more time unloading to the cargo bay takes, but yea the more you are collecting in an outing, the more it’s gonna make sense to avoid touching the boxes twice

torpid pivot
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now you get like 16scu of refined CM from filling the salvage processing grid with Construction Salvage which sells for like 11k at Arc L1

keen garden
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11k each, right

torpid pivot
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yup

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it’s not horrible but the reclaimer is supposed to be the salvage ship

keen garden
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I wouldn’t worry too much about actual profits at this point, the player market/economy is absurd

torpid pivot
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I did hear from here that the values are busted and you’re only getting like 15% of CS as CM instead of the intended 85% but I don’t know where the numbers come from tbh

torpid pivot
keen garden
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Exactly

empty kite
keen garden
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The last few times we took out the reclaimer it didn’t make sense to bother with cmats

torpid pivot
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wait the prospector can fit in the 890?

keen garden
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Yup

torpid pivot
keen garden
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Yup

torpid pivot
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so I’ve just been munching hulls

keen garden
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I wasn’t crashing, but everyone who rode with me did

torpid pivot
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I got up to like 1 mil an hour just by optimizing the process of making boxes and putting them on the grid with a buddy

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but like

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it just feels bad

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you end up still stacking boxes in the back, but since you can only offload 10 of the 16 scu boxes at a time you just end up having to undock, fly a decent way away, shuffle boxes, then come back and dock again

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like I said, about a mil an hour between me and one friend, but it was tedious

keen garden
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We just stack the salvage processing room and chuck boxes out the chute

torpid pivot
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where are you refining it?

keen garden
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But also we only salvage in pyro

torpid pivot
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ahhhhhh

keen garden
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So ruin is right there with its big hangars

torpid pivot
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I was in stanton with its max of size large hangers on the refining stations

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smh

torpid pivot
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I did try throwing them out the chute into my buddies C2 for him to refine

keen garden
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Kinda works, but boxes go everywhere

torpid pivot
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that also worked but solo’ing the reclaimer is a bit of a pain and I lost a lot of time to swapping seats and trying to maintain a disintegration on moving parts

torpid pivot
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16s is a lot of time to work with

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and he had an atlas so it was extra easy

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unfortunately it’s just sooo not valuable

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picked up mining in nyx though

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that feels fun as hell

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until you crash your ship carrying 20scu of lindinium ore

keen garden
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Yeah mining is my fav

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I mostly just do quant mining

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To trade bits for wikelo parts

torpid pivot
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ah yeah

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I assume wikelo favors sell like hotcakes

keen garden
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They do

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I us a mole most of the time, I tried adding logistics here and there and never found one that actually made things go quicker

torpid pivot
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yeahhhh

keen garden
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As a solo player

torpid pivot
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there’s just not really anything in the game for that sort of stuff yet

keen garden
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Like keeping a herc full of mole bags somewhere nearby

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In the time it takes me to swap I coulda just gone to the station

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And I don’t want a week long refinery job

torpid pivot
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oh you mean that kind of logistics

torpid pivot
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I was honestly kinda considering a herc and golem or something combo

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since you can park a golem in the c2 iirc

keen garden
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Yup

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Just depends on what you’re mining for

torpid pivot
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I’d imagine quantanium probably isn’t great for that sort of stuff with its timer and all that

keen garden
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Now days we do group quant mining

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One solo mole 2 prospectors

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Prospectors scoop up small quant rocks and I in the mole scoop the big ones

torpid pivot
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about how much quant do you wrangle in

keen garden
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About 48 or so per 3 hours, give or take 48

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It’s so random

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One good rock can get you to 48 (48 is two Polaris bits)

torpid pivot
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holy cow

keen garden
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That’s the biggest one I’ve cracked solo

torpid pivot
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damn that awesome

empty kite
# keen garden

how did you crack that solo? Lasers these days seem to be shooting piss

keen garden
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S2 helix or impact with 3 surges and a sabir

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Was pretty maxed out in available power

empty kite
# keen garden

noticed it doesnt say "impossible", always be saying that with mine 😄

keen garden
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Oh that’s the pilot seat scan

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With sabir already in place

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Realistically I shoulda used a boremax there

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🤷‍♂️

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But it cracked

empty kite
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nice work!

empty kite
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@keen garden this is how it looks now for me with the cargo correctly placed on the grid

empty kite
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ok its because you cannot start work orders from non-mining ships. What a shame

rose goblet
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But I couldn't sell the left-over trash ores from the Raft

empty kite
rose goblet
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oh weird

wraith tree
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Thats a bunch of ore

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How long did that take to gather up?

vocal pebble
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Does the reclaimer have a tractor beam to stabilize or pull ship parts near the arm?

jovial matrix
vocal pebble
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salvage heads?

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You mean the arm itself?

jovial matrix
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No, Im talking about the scraper heads, sorry. The things you use to hull scrape ships, they should each have a scraper and a tractorbeam equipped that you can switch between

vocal pebble
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gotcha

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ill check that out thanks

keen garden
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Unless you bought it from teaches

tawny gull
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Can you salvage components from an A2?

keen garden
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Only the guns

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And maybe bombs?

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never tried

tawny gull
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Damn

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Thanks

keen garden
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Can’t pull size 3 stuff off of any ship

naive forum
keen garden
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yes

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imagine it’s mostly because larger ships aren’t really designed for their parts to be removed in that way

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Some are, like the hull C

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Herc… maybe, elevator might fit a size 3 but getting it in and out of that door at the top is gonna be rough

copper apex
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Has anyone gotten pure Caranite recently?

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Or is it completely bugged?

keen garden
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before all this maintenance you could just fire the laser without doing any alignment

wraith tree
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My moles lasers are suddenly not firing’s after the last server update

copper apex
mossy radish
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what resource should i look for golem based carrier operations?

rose goblet
rose goblet
mossy radish
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thanks, what about nyx?

rose goblet
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I'm having a hard time selling my Taranite actually. Price is suppressed. Bex sells easier, but for a bit less

rose goblet
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You might get two more there too. But those might be Pyro only. Ricite and Stelaron (?). They are in the quant tier

mossy radish
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any advice for modules/ gadgets?

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rieger c3, sabir, and boremax right?

rose goblet
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Go watch El Guapo 😂

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But yes that sort of stuff

soft quail
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So I accidentally misclicked and instead of closing the back ramp on my C2, I locked it open. Now it won't unlock and it won't close. Any way I can fix this other than reclaiming the ship?

main grove
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Can we not empty Prospector bags Into a container out while mining or can you only empty them via the elevator to the refinery. I think it woud be good if we could empty the bags Into a container and once full drop them off at tha planet station and once you have a few containers full to get a ship to collect them and take those container boxes to the refinery.

coarse ember
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you can only empty them via freight to the refinery or direct from your mining ship in storage

shadow rock
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I Guess i need help...

keen garden
keen garden
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Others maybe too, if you have surges and proper gadgets

main grove
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Thinks I got tired of going out and back again to deposit such a tiny amount of minerals. I'd rather go out and mine for hours if need be and bring back a crap load. As a preferred solo player you can't carry more bags with you and a Prospector.

keen garden
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I did with a herc

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It can hold mole bags plus a shuttle

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I used an m50 as my shuttle, fits on top of the bags in a herc

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Or just do it like that

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Wish they’d make it easier to apply gadgets on asteroids

main grove
# keen garden

I'm confused. What do you mean you use a M50 as a shuttle. Shuttle what?

keen garden
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Myself, if I backspace instead to go get the prospector my ship marker is always way off

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So I fly out the herc and park it somewhere safe, then go get the prospector and stay out till the herc is full

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If I have to stop early, I abandon the prospector and bedlog the herc

main grove
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Now I get it. So you fly to say Daymar. Land somewhere with the C2 andM50 on board as above. Take the M50 to the nearest station and grab the Prospector and fly back to the C2. Go do some mining. Fly back to the C2 to change bags and head out again and do this till all bags are full. Fly the C2 back and place the bags In elevator.

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Will the C2 not despawn while mining.

keen garden
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Yup, and the c2 won’t despawn. Best tho to park the herc in space, just jump somewhere weird and stop after a gm or so

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Best case is to be above or below the target planet you are mining so that you can always fly in on the light side

wet moat
# mossy radish thanks, what about nyx?

In nyx you have Lindinium. It's about the piece of taranite, the system has a good amount of it and you can sell directly at the refinery.
But keep in mind to equip gadgets that lower instability and resistance

north glade
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im new and when i go to admin i cant sell my recycled material composite and idk why can someone help me plss

vestal ravine
north glade
vestal ravine
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Can you get a screenshot of the Admin terminal view of the sale? I usually sell my RMC at the Orison TDD.

naive forum
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So i'm out here with my Salvation ship after putting on all the upgrades the guide advised and now after hitting the M key the scrapers will not turn on? The video guide says just hold the left mouse button, but nothing is happening

subtle valley
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check they're powered in your mfd?

north glade
north glade
naive forum
north glade
naive forum
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So you were right, it was just another bug. Went back to a station to repair (nothing was broken), went back out again and it magically worked. if I had thought to turn off the engine that probably would have fixed it. Thank you. Now it seems that salvage is better than mining because its always RMC, it doesn't need refining, and its a predictable 5k income per 1 scu box. Looks like I'm all setup for crafting when I get about 50 boxes worth.

naive forum
# pearl juniper all setup for crafting?

from what I read and videos that I watched, crafting is going to have a reset. however, RMC is slated to be a major crafting component of basic buildings from what i understand. So gettign 50 SCU of RMC boxes in my view is a good setup for crafting. It puts me through the paces of what will be needed for a basic star base (which they say is gong to be the first crafted habitat for players.

pearl juniper
mossy radish
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Whats the generalist loadout for moles? i have a helix hofstede and impact lasers on it?

brazen ermine
naive forum
# brazen ermine New also with a Salvation. Where is this guide?

In this Star Citizen 4.4 video, we take a first look at the new RSI Salvation starter salvage ship. I’ll give you a quick tour of the Salvation so you can see the layout and key features. Then I break down my recommended best loadout for the RSI Salvation for efficient solo salvaging. Finally we take the ship out to salvage and test how it per...

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rose goblet
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Some people run more aggressive. El Guapo runs only active modules on all lasers for example

brazen ermine
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I guess you can’t EVA from Salvation. Oof

vestal ravine
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I need a better gun flashlight. Anyone know where to get the new Volt light?

rose goblet
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Note, this build is kinda optimized for Stanton moon mining, which I prefer.

earnest lion
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Where can I find Hadanite in the Klesher work mines?

limpid sluice
earnest lion
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I've been in here for an hour and a half and I've got my sentence down to 21:30 hrs from 27 hrs

vestal zodiac