industrial-professions

[royal spear]

Is it just me or is the OX tractor turret not functional?

oh you have to deploy the turret first... 😮

damn they really cooked with the OX..

There is a serious flaw with exiting the turret and holding the Y key slightly too long xD

the ship yeets you out even if you are flying well above the ground with ample graviity...

I felt my kneecaps crunch

[covert dome]

man i got maybe 3 missions done with hull-c and now it refuses to load x-x

[shadow tree]

Hey, does the vulture Auto unloads on the Grid?

[wet moat]

I’m currently salvaging panels, and I noticed a bug.

You can drain a panel completely, then fly a few hundred meters away until it’s out of render range. When you come back, the panel has fully regenerated, and you can drain it again.

[wet moat]

No u have to do it manuel. The ubside is u can stack them aslo off the grid. Combined with the storage i take about 38 SCU per run, others might get even more

[hollow sedge]

ok question. i understand theres different mining heads and i know u gotta not burn the rock but as someone who's only done cargos what do ya'll suggest to learn first?? salvaging or mining? and do i just get the vulture or is the fortune worth starting with?

[mild pumice]

Salvaging is easy to learn, you can rent both from Teach's at Levski

[hollow sedge]

ok i mean i assumed vulture would just be the only one worth getting but as a mostly solo i wasn't sure and wanted to ask

is it worth renting or buying them? cause for me i'd rather just rent the raft for cargo but i figured for mining atleast i'd have to buy for mining heads but wasn't sure about the vulture needing to buy or not

[fierce harness]

Fortune and vulture are both comparable but for a simple answer if u wanna load one up in a bigger ship and transport it then go fortune... if you want a stand alone go vulture cause it can hold more off the grid. Both solid.. can rent and test... unlike mining when renting won't allow you to change mining heads salvaging is pretty plug and play

There are other pros and cons but that's the giest of it

[winter glacier]

with the changes to rmc/cmat prices, is scraping then cracking worth the time or is it now better to just instantly crack? (assuming a fortune or vulture)

[fierce harness]

Cracking if u have the ship supply

But dealing with a ton of 1 scu boxes is a pain in itself

And you will have a ton just cracking

[hollow sedge]

yea i don't have any big ships im just a newer player whos done cargos trying to get out of member rank. and i was just wondering because of engineering possibly coming next month i was figuring i need to learn more of this stuff so i wanted to know which i should learn first i've watched someone mine on stream i just know its alot of work lol

[fierce harness]

I would rent then

Honestly salvaging is not in a great place right now money wise

So worth learning

[hollow sedge]

yea well i got the money to buy the vulture so i was just asking and like i said im trying to figure out for engineering. cause cargos get boring lol

[fierce harness]

Yeah cargo is not my favorite

I mainly mine so I'm bias

[hollow sedge]

yea im trying to do cargo right now cause i was trying to get out of member rank since they gave us free 0 money rentalls on hullc and other ships i figured i'd see if i could maybe get lucky and make some cash with it lol

[fierce harness]

Yeah cargo prob still best industry money atm

[hollow sedge]

yea just boring doing solo. lol but then again just doing small cargos is probably why

[north cloak]

Are the Vulture/Prospector kind of the definitive "best solo ship" for their respective professions?

Cuz I'm assuming the Arrastra won't be effective with just 1 person.

[meager wind]

i really want to get into solo mining, but last time i tried i got frustrated with how many rocked said impossible. where should i start to make it profitable enough to keep at it?

[wet moat]

Are u using the stock mining heads?

[meager wind]

i dont even know where to start

[wet moat]

There are many many very good yt videos that explaine the machanik in detail
I like the Videos of Red Monster SC
https://youtu.be/ofFl4E5edsw

[meager wind]

ill look into that thanks!

[simple cape]

The rocks lie when they say impossible. You can still sometimes crack impossible rocks

What's aUEC price of a Mole?

[rose goblet]

foolishly took a bulk haul contract with the Hull C to HUR-L1. Is it possible to unload the damn thing?

[mild pumice]

No Hull C unloading isn't supported at the L stations. Unless you cross load it into a C2 or multiple C2s then offload into a freight elevator. Sadly they don't have external FEs yet either.

[main saddle]

Have they fixed the % yield bug for cmat for the Reclaimer?

[rose goblet]

Thanks 🙂 ..time to abandon the ship and claim it somewhere else lol

[mild pumice]

Yeah probably the best option!

[north cloak]

Haven't played since hauling update. Is "free hauling" (idk what to call it) still a thing that's worth doing? Buy low sell high.

Or is basically all a contract hauling game now?

i guess it could be called cargo trading vs cargo hauling

[sonic fiber]

Its too risky

Due to bugs

Cargo missions is zero risk

[median crane]

what do i do with construcion rubble?

[sonic fiber]

Refine

[median crane]

is there any special place to sell it once i refine it or just anywhere?

[sonic fiber]

It refines to CM, so admin I think

Same station as refinery is probably easy

[median crane]

is worth refining an all that?

[royal spear]

wait we have rental salvage ships now?

[sonic fiber]

Decent i guess. Cm sells for 8k

And easy to obtain

[median crane]

is there a way to see where stuff can sell and all that

[sonic fiber]

Sc-trade.tools

[median crane]

ok awesome thank you very much

[mild pumice]

Yeah at Levski, take the elevator from hangars and habs to Teach's ship shop

There's a rental desk, I believe they have mining ships with custom loadout too

[vestal ravine]

I have not read anything from CIG that those percents are wrong. CM' s true value is in future crafting so I suggest only gathering RMC for now.

[royal spear]

Can we stop parroting this nonsense? Even without crafting they are creating a simulation of functioning economy until the systems that will move the economic wheels is in place. It should still be a viable career path even without crafting. More to the point, this is the latest change to salvaging and the only change in a long time. They nerfed RMC to were meant to increase rewards for CMATS to push more people to try CMAT gathering and processing and thoroughly test it. While they did technically improve CMAT profitability it is far from where it probably should be to a) make it appealing for people to do so large volumes of passive testing on the system is done and b) for it to be a viable career path given the shallowness of the mechanics, long waiting and travel times and comparatively poor rewards.

[fickle kraken]

In the end It is all either auec/hour or fun pee hour

[rose goblet]

oh man, hull c loading is so unreliable

[cosmic valve]

im a new player and have heard something about industry being nerfed so im no longer sure whether old advice is still relevant. if im just trying to grind money without much risk, which sector should i try to work towards?

[royal spear]

Hauling is the easiest and fastest money to begin with. Salvaging is relatively simple and decent income. Mining is the most fleshed out and ok income (prob a bit better with new Nyx mining but idk).

Ideally pick something you enjoy

[cosmic valve]

so from what i gather none of the options are awful. as for 'fastest', 'decent', 'ok', has anyone made spreadsheets or is it guesstimating?

[rose goblet]

rent ships, try all the things

[royal spear]

well they are abstractions as you can do each profession more or less optimally 😛 I'm sure there are plenty of spreadsheets out there. The key issue with mining is you have to find something to mine, that is worth your time to stop and mine it. Similarly with salvage, the contracts dig into your profits as you pay for a "salvage permit". So you prob want to find your own salvage to do or do some of the unverified contracts around yela which can be hit and miss.

Hauling is by far the best return for your time but is also extremely simplistic and unless you enjoy stacking boxes and space trucking you will be bored to death and probably want to play something else.

hence why I say, it's more important to find something you enjoy doing and yeah, by all means try it all.

You make money doing most things in the game

[cosmic valve]

alrighty thanks, just wanted to find a good grind so i can get an actual good ship to start the fun stuff with

[rose goblet]

all of the fun stuff is in all of the game loops

[royal spear]

what ship are you in atm?

[cosmic valve]

crusader interpid, technically

[royal spear]

Are you free fly?

[cosmic valve]

yes

planning to buy once free fly ends. ive been eyeing up this game for months

[royal spear]

Welp IAE is a decent time to grab a game package as some are discounted

[cosmic valve]

am i correct in saying you get insurance on ships you buy in-game too?

[royal spear]

At the moment insurance is irrelevant. All ships are "insured" during the alpha

when 1.0 launch happens is when insurance becomes relevant

[cosmic valve]

the cheapest one is still the cheapest regardless of free fly and i can already afford a better ship lol

[royal spear]

That being said ships bought in game will not be insured by default post launch and you will have to buy insurance in game for them

[cosmic valve]

as if thats ever going to happen

[royal spear]

It likely will as losing your ship will likely be a big hit.

[cosmic valve]

either way i can always upgrade later, no?

[royal spear]

anyway back to starter. Salvation is a really solid starter if you are looking at industrial gameplay as it is a decent salvager that will scale later in the game when you have a big enough ship to carry it with to offset it's weakness of not having much cargo space itself. It also techincally works as a hauling starter as you can just use its 6scu to do small hauling contracts to get you off the ground. (Plus it comes with Life Time Insurance due to being a brand new ship launched)

[royal spear]

yes

and most affordable way to pledge for ships is through ccu chains to abuse discounts and speculation on price rises to get more for your money. There is a whole channel dedicated to it #ccu-and-fleet-advice

The intrepid is a decent starter ship too. It's got 8scu of cargo that is easily accessible and has a really nice interior with a bed for bed logging. Theoretically it also opens up options for combat but it really isn't great at it.

from there if you want to step up your starter package and get something bigger a Cutlass black is a great all rounder ship that lets you carry some smaller land vehicles like the ROC which can be used for surface gem mining.

and has decent cargo capacity

or you can go for the cheapest possible game package with the mustang and can later pledge for other ships without being limited to those available as a game package and/or earn ships in game.

If I was a new starter right now, knowing what I know, I would get the Salvation.

[coarse ember]

^ scraping ships always tends to be decent income, they didn't touch salvage until like after 3.22.1 when they realized cmats sold for way too much given in a reclaimer you could pile it up in the cargo areas and the salvage deck then sell for millions per hour, iirc most recent rmc change was they dropped the selling price by like 1-3k months and months ago lol

[rose goblet]

anyone got any tips for the Hull C unloading/loading? 🙁

[modern osprey]

other than stand up and sit down if you can't get it to fully stop to trigger the load/unload. not much else.

[rose goblet]

i do all the things, so annoying. warping in and out seems to 'reset' your chance of it working tho

[patent condor]

how do i unload a reclaimer at an external cargo elevator if i can tuse my handheld tractor beam?? seems a bit silly to restrict a tractor beam at a cargo lift

[regal tide]

Did this patch fix the mining heads?

[regal tide]

They need to gut the Reclaimer and start over in it's build it's a mess. Right now they want you to throw everything out the back of the poop shoot

[patent condor]

yea i would do that but i cant lol they restrict the goddamn tractor beam

just causes double handling, need to fly to a planet, unload there at an xl hangar, then load a cargo ship and fly back to a refinery

[regal tide]

you are docked at a port you need to store it then bring it back up in a hanger fun right!

[patent condor]

it jsut makes no sense

[regal tide]

non of it does that ship was built 14 years ago give or take. They didn't have a clue how we would be using them.

[patent condor]

and then restricting a tractor beam at an external port seems silly too

just a mess

[regal tide]

I feel ya!

Shit right now all the mining heads are locked we can't even switch them out did that get patched NO and Nyx is suppose to be this whole mining system lol

[patent condor]

its like their departments all come up with a great idea that they dont discuss with anyone and then just brake everyone elses things

[regal tide]

looks like the prospect's mining head can be moved just tested it

[regal tide]

Basically they just add stuff to the soup with out trying it.

Chris is just milking his Yacht gas mining at this point

[chilly needle]

What's the best planet to start on for cargo hauling?

!tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[regal tide]

I'm starting to like ships that lower the cargo bay either to the floor or outside can't wait for the Ironclad

[patent condor]

i am gonna need to buy a raft i think to get these 16 scu boxes to a refinery, my taurus doesnt do well with those

[regal tide]

the Raft is a good one

I think more and more we start using easier load unload ships they will have to redesign all the other ones. I guess the only Con would be Pirates can see you have cargo. Tho it won't matter much when they can just scan ships and see what they have.

[simple cape]

I too am waiting for the ironclad. I just took my mole and made it an ironclad. Probly will regret it but might make a mole chain, or go big and get an orion

[regal tide]

I'm not a fan of the Mole right now. I don't like ships that have only one entrance. Unless it's a fighter. Hoping they don't mess up the Arrastra.

[simple cape]

Well arrastra must surely have a cargo hold entrance for the refined ore to be unloaded. And I would imagine a stupid elevator to enter too

I'm fairly sure I won't buy an arraastra. Too flashy for me.

[regal tide]

I personally don't think CIG knows how to build space ships very well they got all the animation\aesthetic down but if you can't use it for any practical use it just ends up being something to look at.

The only winning ships for me have been these out side cargo ships makes sense and easy to use.

[long grail]

Where are we trading bug money guys?

[torpid cedar]

Does anyone have an issue with putting packages on the Hull C and not being able to deliver them when you dock ?

[oblique fox]

I own a Hull B pledge. What other ships (under $300) should I add to my fleet?

[simple cape]

To do what with?
I assume industrial things since you are here?

[wet moat]

Do you have multiple missions aktiv?
I heard there might be a problem were you can't mix the container from different missions, even if it's the same commodity.
It say something is blocking the elevator

[oblique fox]

Yes

[simple cape]

The list is long. You could grab a raft, for reasons.
or a Golem, or prospector. Honestly I can only tell you what I would buy. Not necessarily what you should buy

[plain pewter]

is the ATLS GEO fixed now? (the gui stuff when you're on a planet)

[oblique fox]

I already have a Hull B though so the Raft would be redudant yes?

The Prospector might be a good idea actually 🤔

[simple cape]

Just go big and pre-order a merchantman

[regal tide]

Dang they really fixed the Dup'n the Argo bags

[regal tide]

Mining is broken until the next update.

[fast timber]

as in like, MOLE laser head swapping not working?

[regal tide]

Both the Golem and the mole I would say that's pretty broken if I'm forced to have to use one ship to mine with to be able to switch out mining heads also I'm not sure if it is in other systems but in Nyx every time I break a rock it's like breaking a shell off. the rock persists and just a few minutes ago any Rock I scanned I couldn't even mind it but again I don't know if it was just that system. Mining seems very broken right now considering that this was sort of a mining advertised with Nyx update.

[fast timber]

ive been mining in pyro and that scanning issue hasnt been there for me. You sure it also isnt you accidentally turning off radar?

but it might very well be a Nyx thing too

hopefully they fix it all soon :)

[covert dome]

this other hull-c is somehow not getting impounded and preventing me from getting loading

[wet moat]

The Golem were never able to change its mining head and the Prospector works just normal as always. Only the mole is bugged at the moment.
And even that can kind of be worked around by renting the Teach shop mole.

I already mined in nyx and found plenty astroids.
The only problems I had were a sound bug were the laser sound wouldn't stop and that by cracking a rock there would remain a chunk in the middle that can't be mined

[royal spear]

The other hull C is unlikely to be preventing you. I've had it where there were 3-4 hull Cs all loading/unloading in the same cube

[covert dome]

then i'm just bugged out because no matter what i did i got the no moving warning

unfortunate

[tall vigil]

Does Levski have auto loading like Stanton and Pyro stations?

[vocal portal]

Anyone know how i would bind my remote turret tractor beam on my sticks? for the C1 ? i can move it around but can't seem to find how to move the beam forward and back.

[main trench]

it might be under the vehicle mining or vehicle salvaging section

you need to bind it to a button, there's no tractor axis yet

[vocal portal]

I'll mess around with it thanks, see TB settings in salvage

[royal spear]

I found that binding that to buttons didn't work great for me. I think it needs to be something like a slider or axis.

[vocal portal]

I'll the slider wheel on the bottom, have dual VKBs

[covert dome]

regretting more and more getting x52s lol

[jovial matrix]

The golem is supposed to only have one mining head, thats not a bug

[glass dust]

Is it bug or intention for salvation to be able to use other scrapers?

[mild pumice]

Have you checked the Q&A

[glass dust]

Yes and I am confused. Thats why I am asking here.

[mild pumice]

I mean it's not very confusing?

[brisk forum]

Bruh I tried to scan 9 asteroids in Nyx - every one was not scannable. Mole is broken. Good job CIG!

[peak wyvern]

Do refineries round up or down?

[orchid void]

Did they fix not being able to switch the mole's mining heads?

[mild pumice]

Up to nearest SCU

[mild pumice]

Don't believe so, might be something we have to wait for 4.5 for now since that's about to go into evo

Unless they can hotfix it in

[drifting cave]

I'm considering dipping my toes into trading since hull C is at IAE, is that a legit route?

This feels too good to be true

[covert dome]

assuming the hull c doesn’t bug out and refuse to load yep

[brisk forum]

How are you going to load your Hull C?

[drifting cave]

is megumi refueling a ground station

[jovial matrix]

its a space station

[royal spear]

Well currently it doesn't have bespoke jack shit.. It's running normal cinches by default which suck hard and allows you to swap scrapers at will so the confusion is warranted. If they force the crappy cinches the salvation is DOA imho

[mild pumice]

don't shoot the messenger lol

go and complain to CIG, there's a feedback thread

[royal spear]

So... When captaining the Starfairer Gemini do you have to wear your big boy jammies or are dino jammies acceptable?

[analog patrol]

That bed has a disturbing lack of plushies.

[mild cloud]

Should I keep my vulture or just stuff a salvation in my Asgard?

[regal tide]

I've also noticed that when I hit G to go into gimbal mode the mining laser doesn't move around anymore is that a bug or is that the new change?

[brisk forum]

It never did

[regal tide]

Yes it did On my mole it did and especially on the prospector you could lock it in place and then move the laser whatever Direction you wanted to without having to physically move the ship. I have recorded video of me doing this.

[median crane]

When im refining construction rubble is there a certain method thats gives the best yield or do I just need to click thru and find the best ?

[brisk forum]

Mole has rotating cabins, it doesn't have anything to do with gimbals

Don't remember about the Prospector

[wet moat]

As far as i understand
The yield is for every method the same. Its alsways 15%. Its all about cost and time.
What i dont know is how the Refinery specific Bonus gose with this.

If i talk shit please correct this

[regal tide]

I would prefer in the future them coming up with some sort of fracture lines on the rocks (like Dune awaking) also it would be cool if we had veins of ore instead of just these unoppressive Meatballs. I know that this game's never going to have a digging/voxel element to it which would be amazing especially PlanetSide seems we're always going to have just ores sticking up out of the ground. Short-term when fracturing a rock it would be nice if our scanners were so advanced in the 30th century that it would scan every single Rock instead of having to sit there and point to every single one which the game itself is already time-consuming as it is.

[median crane]

some of them the yeild is alot less than others so like i had 2k in rubble and the yield on some was only 500 where as some gave 840

[vernal kernel]

I’m trying to sell ship weapons and components that I’ve stripped and no where seems to buy them. I’ve tried Crows and CRU-5 as well as Nee Bab stores. What am I doing wrong?

[desert skiff]

Try this, not sure if it will be helpful for you or not as I just stumbled into the site an hour ago when salvaging for the first time
https://sc-trade.tools/home

[drifting cave]

should i look at trade tools or uexcorp for trade routes?

or are hauling contracts better money?

[jovial matrix]

I use UEX for routes, idk how reliable or good the info on trade tools is

[elder arrow]

How's nyx on mining so far

[unkempt spoke]

Man I am really torn on using an lti on an arrastra or not

[oblique nexus]

My friend is trying to sell RMC and Rubble, but none of the trade terminals seem to even acknowledge what she has

She's tried Area18, Lorville, and a Refinery station

Are we missing something? Is it a bug?

[jovial matrix]

is she selling at the trade and development division in those cities?

[oblique nexus]

Yep

[jovial matrix]

and she's offloaded the RMC and rubble onto a freight elevator, and sent it into the city inventory correct?

[regal tide]

erkul is throwing me off about the Golem on that site it shows you can switch out the mining Heads but I know it's static build

[oblique nexus]

Yep, it's been quite tedious for her to unload, try, load, and transport to each attempt

[jovial matrix]

and its not for a lack of demand, it just doesnt register that she has anything to sell at all?

[oblique nexus]

Yep, it's not listed in any of the tabs, in demand or no demand

[jovial matrix]

well idk then, sorry I cant be of more help

[oblique nexus]

Alas

[brisk forum]

Almost non-functional. Yesterday I had every asteroid sleeping. Also Mole is borked

[mild delta]

I've kinda thought with Maelstrom, it'd be neat if they did away with the impossible thing on rocks and instead went to an efficiency route. A small ship could sit and slowly chip away at a very large rock, but the bigger the ship the bigger the chips, so they'd be able to mine it quicker.

Then when we could mark nav points, you could mark it and keep coming back to it to whittle it down further.

[rose goblet]

I've enjoyed renting the Hull C but my god the bugginess is annoying.

[mild delta]

Used it a bit ago and did a pair of small missions to see how it worked, I did manual loading and unloading 😛 Worked fine.

Now if I only had the rep for the real big haul contracts.

[elder arrow]

sounds wonderful

I've been having a good time so far, using the golem

[mild delta]

I was just trying that one out, great little ship. Mini-raft.

[elder arrow]

I love the golem so much its a lovely little ship

[mild delta]

Be fun for a little salvage crew. Pair of Vultures and an Ox.

[elder arrow]

If your doing like quant or something yeah prospector,
Everything else? golem

[mild delta]

I've not done too much mining with it yet 😛

[elder arrow]

Thats my goal with the ironclad,
a few salvations or vultures, one or two Ox's and some golems

[mild delta]

Yeah

Would be a fun crew

[elder arrow]

Ikr?

[mild delta]

Fortunes too.

Probably be easy to grab the boxes off with tractor beam on the rear

[elder arrow]

True but i think the fortunes take up too much room

and with like golems and ox's thats a lot of space ahaha

[mild delta]

oioh, I missed the ironclad bit, yeah space would be at a premium. Salvations would work well.

Although I honestly would not be surprised if we see a starter Golem salvager.

Would be real easy to do.

Golem Crow lol. I dunno some sort of carrion bird smaller than a Vulture 😛

[rose goblet]

lol yes. I ended up unloading 1800scu of stuff manually onto an external cargo thingy last night. Annoying!

[mild delta]

but it works!

[rose goblet]

ffs and i try the Hull C again and fails

[regal tide]

I still like how EVE does Ore's and how to find them. what CIG has here isn't mining to me.

[analog patrol]

Man, I can't wait till the expanse arrive. A small ship refinery is gonna be fun.

[regal tide]

Whomever thought this interface was the way to go is beyond me.

[storm cairn]

Oh be nice do.you think the railen will be in the verse next year? 🙂

[regal tide]

Question how do the Boxes work? when you go to request cargo do you have to select the type of ship so they create the correct ship boxes?

They look like Triangles. they are messing my brain up on switching up which ships use what with the Golem and the other mining ships using octagon bags. When shipping in the real world we have standards.

[storm cairn]

Correct. We will see how they get these working.

[north cloak]

I’ve been watching RAFT videos

And I must say

As someone who was a certified hater

Cuz it’s ugly as sin boiled alive in oil

I’m foaming at the mouth to get one today/tomorrow.

[storm storm]

Ew

[north cloak]

that's the only response i have to that

[nimble pilot]

Amyone know the best way to farm grade a components? Is it exec hangers?

[analog patrol]

Salvage ships that have A grade components stock, run Hathor/CZ/exec hangar

[nimble pilot]

Any particular spot you recommend for salvaging?

[spare cloud]

Bounties.

That's where you'll most easily find the widest range of ships that you can take components from.

You just need a ship with a bit of interior space.

But given that the most popular PvE ships are also the largest cargo ships, it's going to be fine.

[mild delta]

They don't, that's why they're changing it to use the regular boxes we have 😛

[royal spear]

Has anyone tried getting 4scu boxes into the clipper?

[drowsy phoenix]

How do you get the HULL C to load? I'm just getting the "vehicle must remain stationary" message

[subtle valley]

not personally, but they dont fit by a hair

[royal spear]

That's what I thought having tried a 2scu sideways.. that's a nasty thing to do..

[glass dust]

There is ongoing re-concept. After that it should fit 32scu boxes.

In ,,old,, Q&A for Railen it was said that normal box will go inside triangles making it mix between open and closed cargo.

[royal spear]

Can't write this shit...

[long frost]

Everything goes into the rectangle

[north cloak]

Golem vs Prospector?

Always hated the look of the prospector... fuckin dolphin whale lookin thing lol.

Hopefully the golem is a good competitor?

[analog patrol]

You can't swap the heads on the Golem, but personally I enjoy it a lot more than the prospector. It also holds 32 scu as opposed to what the prospector holds.

[royal spear]

technically both hold the same amount if you don't abuse the argo bags on prospector

[hollow sedge]

Can both mine the same size rocks aswell?

[royal spear]

technically prospector can hit a bit bigger max size due to helix not having the + resistance that the golem bespoke does

[olive gull]

CIG already confirm Railen will be using normal squared boxes,
therefore, those triangles, if survive till release, will be some kind of a protection cover, maybe even with an open/close animation P.Utility style.

check #1116833788069167104

[static island]

Is rmc price still borked?

[olive gull]

yes.

[static island]

Salvaging has been nerfed so hard I just gave up, melted my salvager

[sonic fiber]

I won't buy one in game again for a while. Though vulture is a good generalist

Salvage, explore, light hauling

[dusty sparrow]

WTF mods I was joking hahaha

[static island]

I used to salvage at least a little every day. At these prices I won't waste my time. Better off to go watch a movie

[sonic fiber]

Yeah too boring for too little reward

Maybe one day they will make it meaningful

[brisk forum]

Wasn't salvaging just rebalanced so less money for RMC but more for CM?

[tawny gull]

Did Pure Carinite spawn rates get buffed? I know a guy who just got 4 pieces in one mine

[wet moat]

The reclaimer get only 15% of the CM it gathers and the Vulture 30%

[sonic fiber]

Cm has to be refined now though

So frack 20 rubble, get 6 CM

About 40k for a full vulture

[brisk forum]

So how does this work now? Vulture can't print CM boxes like before, and now you have to refine it like you refine minerals? Store the ship, put a refining order that's clearing the internal cargo hold?

[random patrol]

No you need to take the boxes out and send it down. Keeping it in the ship doesnt work....like say a Prospector or a Mole.

[plain pewter]

do bounty hunting with a vulture?

[brisk forum]

So you still print out CM but it's unrefined?

[random patrol]

Yes

[brisk forum]

thanks

[random patrol]

Np....I run a reclaimer so im used to taking the CM to a refinery then selling it.

[spare cloud]

It's not salvage for RMC and CMAT, it's salvage for components, you just pick any of the PvE meta ship.

[royal spear]

What bounties do you do that have grade a component ships? :/

[static island]

@brisk forum until you realize everything that's involved with cm

And discover it's useless to bother with

[spare cloud]

Bounties spawn random ships among a selection of ships a specific size depending on the level of bounties.

You can find grade A stealth in Prowler for example, but Xardalas had given Polaroid12 the main answer already, CZ/exec hangar.
The selection of ships with grade A stealth and military comps is very small.

[ocean tangle]

What are good commodities to loot if I find them?

I just found 3 2scu boxes of tritium, a 2scu box of medical supplies, 16 scu ship ammo and 16 hydrogen just randomly

[spare cloud]

Quantainium, drugs, and that's about it

[ocean tangle]

Gotcha

[spare cloud]

Depends on the volume too.

200+ SCUs of some trash commodity is more worth your time than a couple SCUs of some bit more premium commodity, granted that you have a large ship enough to easily load it without taking ages.

[long bloom]

Hello anny reasson why i cant crak a Mtype asteroid ? The resistance is green 38% and instability green 228 but it says imposibel and nothing happen when i try to mine it

[spare cloud]

Quant and drugs are a easy pick easily worth 20-200k aUEC for only a very quick few SCU

[spare cloud]

All you care about : mass and resistance.
Instability is going to make staying in the green harder, but it's not what determines if you can or cannot mine a rock.

( ( [Mining Power] * 5) * [resistance] ) = maximum mass you can crack.

[long bloom]

ok so if im reding that sheet corect, im runig a Hofstede-S2 Rieger-c3 and a sabir gadget so my maximum mass at 40% shuld be 15120

and the astroid in game is at 38% and a mass off 14318

[spare cloud]

15120 without using the Surge module and Sabir gadget.
24003 with Surge and not Sabir.
27752 with Sabir too.

[tight steppe]

How is the salvaging now after having to refine it? Is it more effort with reclaimer / vulture then before

[royal spear]

What threat level do prowlers spawn in? I've been seeing pretty samey ships in HRTs

[drowsy phoenix]

RMC is the same, CM is a royal PITA now that you have to refine it. A vulture can land at a refinery and unload but a relciamer you'll need to land it, transfer the boxes to a cargo ship that can land at a refinery, and then fly to the refinery.

[simple cape]

All this mining talk is making me slightly regret melting my Mole

[plain pewter]

well, not so sure about that. I wanted to buy one ingame but it seems it's kinda bugged atm. Not sure if hot fix fixed it.

[simple cape]

I kinda hope they bring out another mining ship that's similar in size to the mole, but alien manufacture. (we can have dreams right?)

[candid stratus]

@plain pewtermole still bugged cant change heads

[tight steppe]

Damn, so if i'm a solo player using reclaimer became more tedious i guess?

[candid stratus]

its bad until u salvage in pyro ,in stanton refineries do not have xl hangers so u need land on planetary starport and transport salvage to refinery

also for reclaimer refining eats 80% of ur CM

for vulture 70% iirc

full reclaimer give you maybe 2 millions at best and solo its half day of work heh

[limpid sluice]

Also a good idea to see if it's contracted cargo (mission cargo) as those will only sell for like 25% of market value iirc.

Afaik, the only way to verify is to grab a box with your tractor, it'll show "contracted" underneath the name of the commodity

[ocean tangle]

It wasnt

I lost it when some assholes decided to use my ship as target practice

They couldn't even take the cargo they were in a Hornet and an F8

[candid stratus]

ppl usually shot for fun not to take cargo

[limpid sluice]

You dont need a cargo bay to pirate peoples fun

[quartz crow]

Hey is it possible to fill up a hull c at one location? Every time UEX says a location has "high inventory" it's actually low maybe medium

[tight steppe]

Rip

[candid stratus]

@tight steppe add to this waiting kinda 40 hours for refining XD i liked reclaimer i often soloed it but now its really waste of time ,especially if ur game crash after few hours of salvaging and drops u to hangar ...

[quartz crow]

I can't even fill a taurus tbh, everywhere only ever has like ~100scu of anything

sc trade tools sent me to a station that no longer exists so that's outdated so I switched to UEX, is there somewhere with better info?

[candid stratus]

uex is best afaik for now

[quartz crow]

Do players buying stuff actually affect a location's inventory amount yet? Or are inv lvls just set by cig

[tight steppe]

I might just buy it then melt again just so i have it in buyback just incase tbf

[candid stratus]

it probably wont change ,cause it was preparation for new crafting materials.
It would be alot less pain if they add XL hangers to Stanton refineries ,or at least external freight elevators .
Cause for me most painfull is unloading reclaimer then loading it to hauler then unloading hauler at refinery.
salvage loss it salso too high it would b eok i dunno 50-60% loss but no 80 %

[tight steppe]

yeh, for sure. just love the look of it and the sheer size but it's not a very solid solo ship. so probably should just stick with a vulture or a prospector/salvation

[north cloak]

Was loooking up a video on the new Fortune salvager.

Did they update the vulture to be able to auto-eject and sort like the fortune can? Or is that just a huge + for getting a fortune?

[modern osprey]

new?

[north cloak]

I haven't played in over a year

anyting less than a year old is new to me lol

[brittle kraken]

Semantics

[north cloak]

It's also newer than the vulture so no matter which way you slice it... yeah. new

[modern osprey]

no they didn't update the vulture

wish they would

[red granite]

I think there may have been updates to the vulture in the last year. When did the hopper SCU increase?

[long frost]

if anyone gets the idea of stacking interstellar hauling contracts to pyro...don't do it. after exiting the wormhole, you'll crash into some asteroids without any chance to avoid them due to the inertia

[quick galleon]

how do i mine well alone. I cant mine 99% off anything alone. placing gadgets is hell on earth too

years ago mining qaunt could be done alone in a crappy prospector, now it takes a fleet for a rock with the mass of 10k

[limpid sluice]

keep in mind, those sites rely on users to update their data, so its not typically going to be highly accurate when it comes to inventory numbers

[drifting cave]

FWIW the fortune also only has a single beam

[north cloak]

Yeah It seems like vulture is still clearly way better. But the QOL of the auto-filling storage is very nice

[jovial matrix]

do keep in mind that the fortunes single scraper scapes just as fast as the vultures dual scrapers

[north cloak]

really? i watched a few comparison videos and it certainly didn't seem that way

[jovial matrix]

unless it was changed recently anyway, I've flown both and compared the times, and they're very close

[drifting cave]

Anyway, consider Salvation + a ship to carry it

the salvation also has auto eject

[jovial matrix]

They may have been using the stock cinch in said videos, in which case yeah itll be slower

[north cloak]

What can fit a salvation in it? I ain't getting a Polaris just so I can use a smaller mining/salvage ship lol

[jovial matrix]

C2 for sure, asgard

[drifting cave]

It's the size of a pisces

it fits in a lot of ships

[north cloak]

is it really that tiny?

[drifting cave]

yes

[north cloak]

Oh god damnit. i meant Fortune

yeah i know the salvation is tiny

[drifting cave]

fortune is the size of a prospector

[north cloak]

Yeah I've been eyeing the gameplay loop of asgard + salvation

do bounties then scrape your victims

[solar estuary]

can always use the elevators for the reclaimer as well now

[regal tide]

Alien ship with human boxes got it!

[distant lion]

So I have a Misc Hull-C and tried to do a cargo run (not a mission) so I bought a lot of cargo at a space station, and after leaving the hanger it tells me to fly into this holographic box and ready to receive the cargo. I extend the ship so the storage panels are extended and stopped with the entire ship and panels inside the box but nothing is happening. Is there some other steps I need to take or is the bulk cargo loading mechanic broken?

[modern osprey]

need to be fully stopped, hit Y and stand up to force the ship to stop

its tricky

[distant lion]

Ship was stopped and engines even turned off just incase the HOTAS was sending some slightest of slight drift.

[modern osprey]

even if you think it's stopped sometimes it isn't , you can jiggle strafe as well, standing up is easier

[distant lion]

Also, when I go to the very back of the ship I get a notice that I am trespassing. Is that just my phantom engineer being territorial or a bug?

[distant lion]

Will give exiting the seat a try again, though I did even EVA to the station as I wondered if I needed to travel to the nearby gate and so something there.

[modern osprey]

try qting away / back and call it back up

[torpid cedar]

So my reclaimer produces these super small boxes that new Babbage doesn’t take. How can I get it to make larger crates and where can I take the ones I’ve already produced?

[regal tide]

Did they fix the mining heads on the mole this last hotfix?

[distant lion]

Maybe my cargo buying process is wrong...I signed out and back in again and the money is gone and the cargo is nowhere to be found at the station. that was over 500K just gone.

When I buy cargo that I want autoloaded do i select the ship or the station name from the inventory options for the cargo to me shipped to.

[pearl juniper]

Average auto load experience, from what I have heard

[patent condor]

would make it easier if they let us use handheld tractor beam at the external cargo elevators to directly unload the reclaimer instead of having to double handle it by unloading on a planet first

[distant lion]

Yeah and now I finally managed to get a load of cargo and then as I pulled away and started to setup the QT the game crashed. Maybe they should have the folks working on building new ships to try and sell us stop working on that and maybe help the one guy they have that is working part-time on fixing the game.

[torpid cedar]

Will New Babbage take 16 SCU crates?

[patent condor]

yes

[torpid cedar]

Does anyone know. They would not take my 1 scu crates.

[patent condor]

if they didnt take your 1 scu there may ahve been a different issue

[mild delta]

I used to have issues trying to sell stuff at my home location, dunno if that was ever fixed, so if it's your home, could be why.

[regal tide]

Do I have to refine the construction salvage now? at any refinery

[torpid cedar]

New Babbage does not accept 16 SCU containers.

@patent condor

[ember night]

Yes. At any refinery.

[torpid cedar]

Is that the step I’m missing?

[regal tide]

Does Wikelo sell modules?

[patent condor]

Yes you cant sell raw salvage

The process is tedious. Atleast if youre in a reclaimer like me. Unload on planet. Reload on cargo ship. Fly to a station unload again and then refine. Rather tedious which they could fix by letting people use tractor beams at the new external cargo lifts.

[torpid cedar]

Thanks this was incredibly helpful man.

The ships could come with Owners manuals and PDF instructions for so much cash at least. I mean like the simplest of AI’s could put one together for them lol

[candid stratus]

@solar estuaryrefineries like arc1 arc 2 etc do not hav external elevators afaik only main starporets and gate stations

@patent condor or just add xl hangers to refinery station

[patent condor]

Yea either option. But you'd think it shouldn't be too hard to recode the tractor beam to work outside the station

[humble stump]

How do I like not lose my cargo trying to sell it at a commodity kiosk, but also not need to manually unload every box into the freight elevator?

[spring garnet]

Hi, where can i sell guns and Components that i salvaged from ships?

[storm storm]

Any ship shop

[lyric bough]

Is it a bug or a feature that salvaged ship components wipe on a new patch?

I was enjoying the scavenging for parts last patch and now the game ate them

I think i only kept parts i got from CZs and didn't equip to a ship

Everything else reset or gone

[modern osprey]

Salvaged ship components are considered duped.

[lyric bough]

Damn. Are they planning to fix that or is it just not gonna be a thing

[modern osprey]

No idea , there is speculation about a time based registration system coming in but I'll believe that if and when it happens

[lyric bough]

I feel bad now too i sold some of the parts already

So those must have disappeared also

Atleast they were cheap parts

[long frost]

Oh, even if those have been looted originally?

[modern osprey]

looted from cz etc are fine , scavved from a ship that can reclaim them then that is a dupe

[fast timber]

sib

[humble stump]

sib?

[random patrol]

You can offload directly to the station if it has external cargo elevators and a refinery. We did this yesterday at Terra gateway station.

[vital trench]

Where would yall recommend doing GEO mining nowadays? Is Pyro still better?

[royal spear]

does Terra gateway have a refinery?

[random patrol]

Yes

[royal spear]

That's a nice catch

[random patrol]

All of the gateways have cargo and refineries

[royal spear]

and most importantly external cargo

[random patrol]

Yup

[royal spear]

it's still going to be a bit of a shitshow unloading into space solo but sure beats transfering to another ship

[random patrol]

By now we should all have at least one other player that can help us etc

[royal spear]

Sure, I'll pay them in exposure

[random patrol]

Lol ive helped friends load and unload without expecting compensation and they've done the same for me. Its part of the game

[vital trench]

Is roc mining bugged? I cant find a single patch of small rocks to mine

[drowsy phoenix]

Has anyone done the cost analysis on the CM route? I know in the vulture it's more creds/hr just to scrape the RMC and sell that and forget about the CM.

[junior sluice]

idk iv heard of people finding hadanite on the surface again on Aberdeen

[cerulean lichen]

What’s the range like on the drake OX?

[livid wigeon]

hey guys just started mining, does seraphim station have a place to sell raw ores?

[jovial matrix]

No, but CRU-L1 or CRU-L2 will have a refinery where you can sell raw ore

you can also pay a small fee to have those ores refined, which will then make them worth more. After their refined you load them into a cargo ship, and you can sell them at a city like orison

[livid wigeon]

oh ok so it has to be a refinery, got it

[jovial matrix]

yup 👍

[livid wigeon]

thank you, and do i have to manually store the ship to sell or can i leave on pad?

[jovial matrix]

I dont know for certain, I always store mine first

[livid wigeon]

ok cool ty

[candid stratus]

@livid wigeon you need store ship,otherwise refinery wont see it

[vital trench]

Yeah Im trying on aberdeen but its just large mineables

[vestal ravine]

Last night I found a big patch of Fenylmaline on Magda. Also are the Abrades taken out of the Stanton stores?

[brisk forum]

Was Mole fixed yet?

It's not

[mild cloud]

Any recommendations on what to do with my Zeus & Razer? Also have a saber that I in didn't use much

[patent condor]

Well ill have to try this. It doesn't work at pyro gateway station

[north verge]

this game is 10/10 trade in 200 contruction mats got 0 credits XD

[royal spear]

Did Redwind get fixed on Hurston? I don't see people rampantly winging about it anymore..

[next bay]

whats the best way to level up covalex missions? im junior rank and ive been doing so many missions but dont feel like my rep has moved up at all. is it really that slow?\

[royal spear]

for rep you just do the highest rep missions available

[covert dome]

Redwind got changed, it's all stellar contracts now

[royal spear]

you can stack a decent number of them between orbital station and city in both Arccorp and Crusader

[covert dome]

interstellar rather

[royal spear]

what's worth hauling these days then?

[covert dome]

you won't find any contracts like it was for redwind if that's what you mean

[royal spear]

yeah I know. Just wondering what the good contracts to grind are now

700k hullc gone too

[covert dome]

when you figure it out let me know, i also have no idea

i've been doing the 160k ones one at a time in a C2

[royal spear]

yikes

That can't be good

[covert dome]

yeah its not

the senior missions are hot garbage, way too convoluted

[royal spear]

surely at that rate you might as well stack rookies

[covert dome]

stacking has been breaking for me

or i'll spreadsheet out rookies and select my first and the rest of the list refreshes

[royal spear]

hmm I'll go test in A18

[covert dome]

currently i'm bored and it's crusader day so i may or may not have gotten an A2 as a rental >.>

[royal spear]

who you nuking?

[covert dome]

.>

not sure yet

[plain pewter]

is the surge module not in stores anymore?

went to 3 different ones that were stated in cs. not in store

[mild pumice]

Believe a lot of module got moved to Levski, not sure what the economy team were thinking, there are feedback posts on spectrum about the change but I can't recall seeing any responses

[lofty drift]

is anyone able to swap the lasers on the mole?

[wet moat]

its brocken atm

[lofty drift]

rip

[half oriole]

Hi Friends 🙂 Very new player, does anyone have tips for ROC mining? I've been scanning in my nomad on Daymar for two hours but haven't found any "Hadanite" ores.

Someone mentioned Hadanite has to be handmined, but from what I read the Greycat ROC mines three minerals with Hadanite being the most profitable. I haven't found any of these three ores yet in my scanning 🙁

[pearl juniper]

Gem mining changed a few months ago, any guide older than that change is out of date. Could be part of the confusion.

[half oriole]

Yeah I definitely think that's part of it, appreciate it. Trying to surface mine blind lol, trying to find the latest info

[unique ridge]

Aberdeen is the place to find hadanite but it's rare now you'll mainly want to mine feynmaline

I've found a few hadanite clusters on Aberdeen and you can mine it just fine with the roc still , just be careful they like to explode

[half oriole]

Appreciate it! Wish I didn't skip over all the feynmaline I scanned hahaha

[unique ridge]

Oh no, that's the money maker now. the best place to find it is ignis or pyro 4

When you get good at it you can make decent money with just a cutty black and a roc

[half oriole]

100k an hour you think? Haulings making me good money but I have a buddy and think it'd be more fun surface mining as a duo

[plucky ridge]

Evening friends. Is there a good commodities tracker that is uniformly used that is recommended?

[main trench]

sc-trade.tools is what i use

[coarse ember]

^ theres that one and uexcorp
i prefer uexcorp since sc trade toos is just a bit to ugly looking for me

[plucky ridge]

Thanks crew

[drifting cave]

is it worth grinding hauling rep?

or should I stack rookie contracts

[main trench]

You'll need to grind hauling rep to get better missions later

[drifting cave]

Do the higher rep pay enough to be worth it? I'm on member rn and it's like 90k for four locations

there's no more direct deliveries

[crimson mantle]

Aw, I'll admit I'm no graphic designer but we do try!
It's tricky to convey all that info on desktop and mobile 🙂

We do take feedback, if you have anything specific 👍

[main trench]

if you want to do the interstellar or the hull-c missions, you'll need to rep grind further

[elder arrow]

How do people go back to the same rock they found thats pretty good?

Found a good rock, but need to grab a different mining head to break it

[crimson mantle]

You can leave a ship or a mission-tracked item close by.
Possibly your death marker too.

[elder arrow]

I got a golem and a C2 right by this rock i just need to grab something from levski

[simple cape]

Was there any indication when the Ironclad would end up in game?

[dim sierra]

Question about hauling missions before I invest time/cu without understanding.

I've been running "Small Haul" missions in my cutty black for ~40k per mission for ~10 SCU of cargo.

I can now see "Medium Haul" missions which are around ~60k per mission for ~100 SCU of cargo.

That doesn't seem like enough of a profit boost to upgrade my ship just to run those missions. Are there more lucrative hauling missions deeper into the rep grind which offer a better incentive for investing in a bigger ship? I just want to make sure the juice is worth the squeeze before I start down this rabbit hole.

[storm storm]

Yeah, you will get missions with hundreds of SCU once you level up a bit

[tender sleet]

how goes reclaimer salvage running go for you guys?

[median crane]

is there any thing i can use that will help me locate spot for ship mining

[crisp iron]

https://regolith.rocks/

Regolith is your mining bible basically. While it can't tell you exactly where a rock is, it will give you a good idea of what planets/belts/areas to search for ores

[median crane]

fuck yea thank you sooooo much your awesom e

[wet moat]

If you want space mining it feels like the best to do ist just to use the astroids near an refinery

[median crane]

does it matter what i go after??

[lofty drift]

is there a keybind to turn off advanced hud

i cannot disable it on the turret

[wet moat]

On the planet the Rocks are more clustert. That helps with finding rocks with a good size.

I prefer going to astroid fields because of low travel time

[crisp iron]

Asteroids also tend towards larger rocks so not going to find as many that are good and breakable in a Prospector, at least in my experience.

[plain pewter]

so, asteroid mining is more suitable for a MOLE? Prospector not so much? What about 2 prospectors? 😄

but the mole is kinda gimped right now...

so we're stuck with a prospector i guess

[orchid void]

Mole heads fixed in this update?

[orchid void]

Not to contradict but in past patches I've always found really small rocks (less than 5k mass) in asteroid fields while huge rocks on the ground.

[ember night]

Sadly, no.

[wet moat]

I think both is true in some way.
On the ground are just more rocks
That leads to more Large but also more small rocks.

[lavish gazelle]

Has anyone done the illegal cryopod interstellar hauling missions from Stanton? If so, how did you obtain those missions?

[olive gull]

yes, they are on the unconfirmed nissions, under "Interstella Hauling"

[lavish gazelle]

I don't have them (I am currently in Stanton)

[olive gull]

you need an intro mission from the Dead Saints faction
think i got that intro while on Nix

[lavish gazelle]

Do you know what the intro mission is?

I have already done a bunch of box collection runs for them in Nyx.

This is my rep with them from doing the hauling missions in Nyx

[olive gull]

this one

[lavish gazelle]

Ahh ok. Yeah I don't have that one either

[olive gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5u_bKQSpU4

[jagged nest]

Hello guys! If in an asteroid belt and i wanna look for big ships, what do the signals that i should look out for look like?

Thank youuu!

[lavish gazelle]

So that just shows the intro mission... But I am missing that mission.

[olive gull]

dont have the exact signal on me but it is something like this
only big on the electromagnetic (the lighting) 40k, 50k++

[olive gull]

do you see any "Interstellar Hauling" missions?

[jagged nest]

ah so at like 40k + are good ships to salvage?

[lavish gazelle]

This is literally what I have in my unverfied missions in Stanton. And no intersteller in Nyx either. #industrial-professions message

[jagged nest]

thank youuu!

[olive gull]

no, interstellar on the normal missions

[lavish gazelle]

Ah then yes

[olive gull]

nothing from Dead Saints..... are you on Nix?
if on Stanton try to be near a planet like Arcorp o Crusader

[lavish gazelle]

Im in Stanton. I went to Hurston earlier. I am currently on Crusader. I will try Arccorp afterwards.

[olive gull]

if fail, then may need to jump back to Nix...

[lavish gazelle]

I know I don't have any in nyx.

[polar elm]

how do I tell the size of the crates on a hauling mission? I see one # of SCU's on the details side but then the quest objective lists a DIFFERENT # of SCU's. I go for a low SCU count contract thinking it'll work out but time after time I cant fit the damn crates onto the ship they gave me. I'm just trying to make money for a better hauler but every time I bring up the cargo elevator and see the crates wont fit I am dumbfounded. How do I see/know which contracts my ship can handle?

[royal spear]

The contract text will tell you the maximum box size and then the cargo will be issued using the biggest boxes possible to achieve the total scu. So if the contract says it will come in 4scu boxes and you need to move 11scu it will be 2x4scu 1x2scu 1x1scu so 4 boxes total

I'm not in game so don't have a screenshot to point it out but if you ping a screenshot of the contract across I can show you

And by "the ship they gave me" I assume you are free flying with intrepid? In that case you can only do 1scu and 2scu sized boxes

because of how the grids are arranged

[vital trench]

My ATLS Geo is acting like its cargo pod is full but its not?

[lavish gazelle]

Now that I am back in Nyx.
(Nothing popped up at Arccorp either)

[mild cloud]

Ok question about ship tractor beams, specifically the raft.... Does anyone use it? I didn't see the benefit of jumping seats to use the onboard tractor vs a max lift if I need to get out to use the elevator anyways, and if it's a multi crew situation isn't it better just to have 2 people unloading on the ground?

[covert dome]

It used to be really good when the max lift wasn’t buffed. Now that the max lift is buffed I don’t bother

ATLS idk since I never got efficient with using it but people still swear by it

[mild cloud]

Ok I was wondering if there was maybe a way to remotely control the elevator that I was missing

[covert dome]

I wish

The Ox would be OP if so

[mild cloud]

Ox it's another I just didn't get the point of

[covert dome]

Yeah if you could lower the elevator from the ship ox would be waaaaay better

since you can easily drop your SCU directly in the elevator from the turret

as it is it’s neat but you still need to get out of the ship 🤣

[small nebula]

im new to mining please help me understand what I'm doing wrong. I tried mining with a GEO both on pyro and stanton surfaces. I always blow up eventually after some rocks with an explosion that incapacitates me. The power mini game is clear to me and I never went even close in the red part of the overcharge. is there something im missing?

[mild cloud]

Why would anyone looking to pledge an of not just drop the extra 30 bucks and get a raft?

[covert dome]

yep, fair

[open pilot]

What's the most efficient workflow for managing the generated crates when salvaging solo in a Reclaimer? Do you drop them down into the salvage hold right away, then move them via elevator to the cargo hold, and only go refine once you have a full cargo hold + salvage hold + refining area + buffer?

[sand veldt]

will we get the hull c missions back or is it over

[daring basalt]

anyone got any tips on best trading routes to run?

[open pilot]

ok, apparently 16scu crates don't fit through the door of the Reclaimer's elevator haha, so I have no idea what the intended flow is here

the elevator that goes between holds I mean

[random patrol]

Use the hatch at the rear

[open pilot]

Yeah, I did that to get the crates down to the salvage hold. But there's no cargo grid down there, and I was thinking I should move them from there down to the cargo hold.

But they don't fit through the door to the main elevator that goes to the cargo hold

[random patrol]

Stack them anywhere you can just make sure you dont block the printers.

Whenever you arrive at your XL hangar then unload them

[open pilot]

ooooh, ok, so don't even bother trying to use the salvage or cargo holds down below then

[random patrol]

No ignore those 100%....jsut utilize the salvaeg room

[open pilot]

ok thanks, that makes sense

[random patrol]

All of the boxes in those two photos are from free salvage....ships found around stations and gateways. No contracts

[open pilot]

yeah i should try that - this is my first time using a Reclaimer so I just grabbed the salvage missions for easy targets

the materials have to be refined now, right? Is Pyro basically the only option or can I use the external cargo elevators at the refinery stations now?

[random patrol]

Youll find lots of abandoned Hull-C's around the gateways....

If you goto the stantion gateway stations they also have refineries....like Terra gateway.

I was using the external cargo elevator last night

I dont goto pyro that much but in stanton I usually offload in an XL hangar then load my C2....and take the salvage to a station that has a refinery AND buys refined CMATS....so I dont have to move it afterwards

You need any help in game feel free to add me.....same name as here. I run the reclaimer a lot....probably more then I should.

[jovial matrix]

I think most people just put as much as they can in the salvaging processing room (where you make the boxes), fill up the buffer, and then go refine/sell

and in case it wasnt clear, there is a second smaller elevator at the very back of the reclaimer. It doesnt go all the way to the ground, but it opens enough to let you throw the boxes through it, and out into space/your hangar

[open pilot]

Got it, thanks. Yeah, I knew about the back elevator to get the boxes outside, just wasn't sure if people filled up the other holds too since it seems like the logical way to do it from a noob salvager's perspective 😄

[jovial matrix]

It would be, if the reclaimer was made when they actually had physicalized cargo lol

[open pilot]

is it possible to disintegrate specific chunks of a ship instead of all of them at once?

or is there no way to avoid wasting a bunch?

[jovial matrix]

sadly no way to avoid waste like that

well no, I misunderstood

[random patrol]

Just make sure your hopper is empty before you start on a ship

[jovial matrix]

you'll only disintegrate whats right in front of you, so if you angle your ship away from all of the chunks and only have one or two in front of you, you won't eat them all at the same time

you can also use your ship tractorbeam to move the chunks farther apart before you disintegrate, if they're small enough

[open pilot]

ah, ok. I just fractured an 890j and it was basically two massive chunks lol.

so most of it went to waste

[random patrol]

yeah its 1.5k SCU right?

[jovial matrix]

yeah for big ships like that you just have to take the loss

[open pilot]

yeah 1.5k total i think it said

[random patrol]

yeah its tough on larger ships when the chunks are bigger than yor 240scu hopper

[polar elm]

Thank you so much. World chat was not able to help me at all and I just wanted to make a bit of cash flow. It is the Intrepid, but I see now I’ll need a bigger ship!

[royal spear]

It is very much a starter ship

[open pilot]

I must be doing something wrong trying to use this external cargo elevator... do I need to request docking permission for it first or anything? I just backed up to it with my Reclaimer, but since I'm in an armistice zone I can't use my tractor beam on any of the crates in the ship.

[mild cloud]

With the incr with the increase to capacity should I buy a ic to ic assault CCU?

[royal spear]

Did you steal the ship?

[open pilot]

No, but it's a rental

[royal spear]

Hmm sounds like a bug. Try unlocking ports

[open pilot]

handheld tractor beams normally work inside armistice now right?

[random patrol]

yes

You in pyro or stanton?

[wet moat]

I did a Roc mining run and have 2k feynmaline
Whats the best location to sell?
It feels like most byers only take 500 thats why i am looking for a location that buis more but also has a good price

[crimson mantle]

2k feynmaline is 2 scu
You should have no problem selling anywhere 🙂

Moons outposts for best profit but least security
Planatery Stations for average
City TDD for last resort

[wet moat]

thas what i thought
Maybe i am doing something wrong but wenn i go to an HDMS i cant get them to buy more than 500 at the time

[covert dome]

my favorite hauling delivery location is back, DestinationAddress

[plucky ridge]

A few questions, sorry for the brain dump.

What’s the go to cargo hauler at the present time, and how does the caterpillar do? (I understand this may be subjective as it doesn’t have the biggest space, but I think size wise is good enough for me)

Are the atlas/csv that much more efficient or is multi tool enough?

Do commodities bought auto load in/out of ship or need to be manually moved?

Thanks!

[jovial matrix]

Raft is the premium mid-sized hauler, starlancer max is also pretty good for that size range. On the high end, the C2 is best by a mile. The cat has fine capacity on paper, but the way its designed and layed out makes it a pain to load, and limits you to 24 SCU boxes

[sharp swift]

Hull B about to be the new king

[crisp iron]

A lot of different haulers are used, I think it's really dependent on your preferences and SCU requirements. I like the RAFT for example when I'm loading by hand but I don't do huge commodities runs so I don't need like 600 SCU. C2s also very popular.

ATLS is a pretty worthwhile thing to have, if you're good with it, you can load very fast if your ship lacks a tractor beam. And it can load heavier boxes that require a tractor rifle.

Unsure about commodities, I'm a miner

[plucky ridge]

Think that answers my questions for the most part, thanks team. As for the caterpillar that’s very useful info , also read the tractor beams only help externally. Too bad none of these have something internally tractor beam wise. Looks like c2 might be the way to go for me.

And as for the buying and selling. Nothing is bought and directly put onto the ship or sold directly from?

[crisp iron]

The RAFT has an "internal" tractor beam since it's an external loader and the tractor can access its grid.

[vale siren]

i rented a prospector a 2 days ago and did a decent amount of mining with it but today i went to mine and it seems like all the rocks are to big for it. Did anything change with the last update?

[crisp iron]

Not AFAIK, you're probavly just getting unlucky

[vestal ravine]

Also the last 3 days of the Expo you can rent any ship. Suggest you get more familiar with the C2 and Cat before you buy.

[tall karma]

Try Admin on a main planet. Not TDD

[lofty drift]

have they fixed the mole

[brittle kraken]

Nah

[fickle kraken]

We need something bigger than 4 scu ground vehicle for cargo

[vestal ravine]

Maybe we get tractor trailers when base building and roads get implemented???

[wet moat]

When you do salvage contrags with the reclaimer are you takeing the comodites that are stored in these schips?

[coarse ember]

unless they're high value like quantanium or gold nah not really, in reclaimer i just munch it move onto the next ship then offload at MT before hauling it up to mic-l1 for refining

[fast timber]

Anyone here know if MOLE mining laser heads not swappable bug is fixed in the 4.5 Evocati patch?

[sonic fiber]

But why when you could use a argo and fly?

[lofty drift]

thats fucked

[wicked moon]

hey will the Salvation still be able to use the Abraides in the future or is that a bug? The way they talked about it in the SCL confused me

[open pilot]

I'm in Stanton, trying to move boxes in the Reclaimer inside armistice. Still can't do it after claiming the ship and starting over either. Wondering if it's because it's a rental from IAE?

[plucky ridge]

16 wheelers.

[next idol]

Is it better to do that or just go to levski to refine stuff from reclaimer and then auto load to another ship to sell?

[tight steppe]

Does the fortune fit inside the asgard?

[wet moat]

You can go to every gateway i think
it has its own refinery

[spare cloud]

You wanted to ask the Salvation, right ? Right ?

[tight steppe]

yeh, mb

[spare cloud]

Should fit yeah

[tight steppe]

How is the salvaging now with having to refine it? much more tedious

[wet moat]

Its pretty fun
Today i rentet the Reclaimer and salvaged for ~5 hours and could´t bring back any cmats scrap because the game crashed every time i went to the refinery

[random patrol]

Its not that tedious.

[next idol]

Mine also crashed, I didn’t lost that much but still, the first time it put me again in the ship but second crash just sent me to my home

[tight steppe]

So what extra steps i need to do now if i am flying a reclaimer?

[wet moat]

ecactly that

[tight steppe]

Land and unload boxes in the freight like before then have to go to a refinery, and then move the boxes into a new ship again and then sell?

[next idol]

Good lord xD

[random patrol]

Yeah i tend to just load up like crazy before I unload everything lol

[random patrol]

You can skip that last step if you're smart. There are stations with refineries that buy refined cmat so you dont need to move it.

[tight steppe]

ok, so i can pretty much do like before just now instead of going to trader i go to refinery and i can sell there?

[random patrol]

If that station buys the refined cmat. Not all of them do.

[wet moat]

I thought The Stations with the best prices dont have an external elevator. Wouldn´t it be worth it to ship the coocked cmats?

[tight steppe]

So if the station does not buy refined cmat, i need to store them in reclaimer again? and fly to somewhere that buys like before

Damn, solo salvaging with reclaimer got even more tedious huh

[random patrol]

No once the cmat is refined you can move if with a cargo ship. C2 or raft etc

[random patrol]

Yeah its not lazy money anymore.

[tight steppe]

Damn.. might just melt and rebuy a vulture or fortune then. i love the look and feel of reclaimer but as a solo player it's more tedious then probably the worth lmao

[random patrol]

Youll have to find out what stations have the best prices https://sc-trade.tools/

[wet moat]

it looks like pyro is the best refinery with an outside elevator
but its buys for 800 less per scu

[next idol]

Do you know if just leaving the cargo in the hangar and store the ship puts everything in the hangar storage?

[tight steppe]

Damn

[random patrol]

No

You have to offload the ships by hand.

[next idol]

I need to try the freight elevators in the stations but I think worth the shape of the reclaimer will still be a mess

[random patrol]

Ive done it at external elevators. Here i am at the terra gateway station.

[next idol]

is it worth it compared to find a place with enough big hangar?

becuase you usually use the gravity to let the boxes fall, idk with that how it would work

[random patrol]

Its tough solo.

[vestal ravine]

It's not that tedious. I scraped a 890j in 53 minutes and its 79 scu.

[tight steppe]

How much money did that make u?

[wet moat]

did you use abrade scraper?

[tight steppe]

More tedious with landing and then refining and then moving them in a new ship to sell no? as a solo player

[crimson mantle]

You can get ~425-450k for that

[vestal ravine]

At Orison it's about 5,300.00 per scu...

[vestal ravine]

Yes Abrades...

[royal spear]

How big do dead saints contracts get?

[toxic mauve]

how do i offload to an external elevator in pyro gateway? my tractor beams dont work because of armistice

[mild pumice]

Only ship tractor beams work

[toxic mauve]

so i cant unload my reclaimer to an external freight elevator?

[mild pumice]

Not unless you have a someone unload it with an MPUV tractor for example

You can spawn that at the station for example or have a friend do it whist you move the boxes

Hmm the reclaimer is going to have the issue of not having a fully opening cargo bay

[toxic mauve]

yeaahhhh it sucks

[jovial matrix]

can you use an ATLS?

[toxic mauve]

nope

[jovial matrix]

RIP

[mild pumice]

The whole ass end of the reclaimer needs to open in my opinion

[royal spear]

Imagine reclaimer having issues

[mild pumice]

It's probably one of the biggest reasons CIG are now fully against releasing a ship before its gameplay

Glad I didn't melt mine tho now the best paint is available!

[vestal ravine]

If the Reclaimer is in space you can still use the poop chute method...Try it!

[tight steppe]

So god damn ugly paint jobs for it x.x both of them

[earnest crystal]

if i wanna get started in space trucking whats better amongst the 3 systems atm ?

[wet moat]

Is pyro gateway the only stion were tracktor guns dont work?

becauso i allready used them hat seraphim

[mild pumice]

They didn't work for me at seraphim

[wet moat]

tho its more off an on/off thing

[next idol]

I wish they just finish the dumb ass squadron 42 agme so they can just focus on star citizen and fix all the dumb stuff they made like the totally useless door of the reclaimer

the funny thing is that you can just make the door to move and its done, u can be 3 years without the rewqork and people would still be ok-ish with that

but they just lower it

[polar fable]

okay serious question... are there different prices for selling stuff like ship guns? Im on Seraphim station and a deadbolt V that I scavenged is only worth like 800 credits? thats crazy low

[open pilot]

no, they reduced the prices for selling salvaged weapons a ton because people could easily just dupe them by repeatedly claiming their ships

[next idol]

I think selling guns was never profiteable

[polar fable]

okay so its normal for a full vanguard loadout to only be worth like 1k in total?

[open pilot]

yeah, unfortunately. only reason to salvage weapons currently is to use them yourself or sell rare ones to players.

[jovial matrix]

it was, in the 3.18 PTU. Salvaging hammerheads for their S4's was pretty profitable

[wet moat]

I am at Stanton>Nys gateway after pyro didn´t work

[open pilot]

so you're able to use the handheld tractor beam there fine?

because i haven't been able to get it to work in armistice either

[wet moat]

yeas they work here just fine

[mild pumice]

I did find an IC for Pyro Gateway, might only be some locations

[open pilot]

are you using a rented Reclaimer? I was wondering if it was related to mine being a rented one

[wet moat]

yeas mine is rented

[open pilot]

huh. yeah, i tried it at like three or four different places in Stanton and could never get it to work if I was in armistice.

[wet moat]

maybe its server relatet?

[vestal ravine]

There is a you tuber called SC Haulers he has good mission overviews. The safest hauling is building rep. With the cargo missions. I like buying my own cargo and selling it but if you get pirated you lose your investment. DM me and we can talk more or do a route.

[random patrol]

im going to try it in a few....ill let ya know if it works.

[random patrol]

works fine for me

[random patrol]

Are you using a MAX lift or the little handheld?

No issues

[wet moat]

I had problem with both the handheld and the tracktor rifel
It seem to be not a consistent bug

[random patrol]

Anytime ive used it I havent had a problem. Im at the Terra gateway right now

But that doesnt mean it cant happen....im not saying its perfect

[wet moat]

Maybe the servers are playing god and deciding who deserve Tracktorbeam privileges

[random patrol]

could be a rental thing also

[earnest crystal]

Bet thanks lemme have a look at the yt and I’ll dm u if I got questions, just got my ironclad ccu chain so excited to get started

[mild pumice]

The IC seems to suggest using R to stow the Tractor Beam causes it to stop functioning. The workaround is to equip it by opening inventory and right click>equip

[vestal ravine]

Ok cool just let me know if you need more insight.

[waxen coral]

What would be the best way to go about mining with a two person crew? Is it better to get gadgets and go in two Prospectors/Golems or would it be worth it to spec out a MOLE and use that? A little stuck since there isn't a dedicated 2 person mining ship.

[vestal ravine]

Since the mining ships are free to rent you and friend can try the different combos out in real time. For instance, with twin Prospectors and a gadget you can crack the bigger sized rocks and if you have the bigger ore bags that is even better. One guy can focus on collecting Quantanium so it's a great way to mine.

[waxen coral]

Ok cool ty. Overall, beyond the free rentals, which would be better long term? Cant decide whether to buy a MOLE or Prospector with UEC.

[icy island]

is there a way to FORCE the hull c to spawn on the docking port like it should when the spindles are out or is it just always going to go to a large hangar despite how stupid that is?

[teal ridge]

Is there any cargo routes in staton for tbe polaris pick up from off simple as that?

[vestal ravine]

Well, I gave up on the Mole solo because of going up and down to access the middle laser unit. If you have a steady mining partner then yes to Mole. Otherwise the Prospector works good. You can always save up for the Mole over time and have both.

[vestal ravine]

If you go to Ariel then the Lathan mining station and park in the open and aim the ramp at the freight elevator and buy 500k of Gold then sell at Lorville or Orison that is an option. Of many.

[tight burrow]

When is NYX going to fix the mining issues?
I mine, get a full Mole, dock at Levski, and as soon as I start moving to the frieght elevator, everything disappears and I have to relog

Burned 14hrs

[blissful flume]

For someone taking a break from salvage until they make it worth my time, where is a good area to mine in a prospector for a newb in mining?

[kindred thistle]

I'm hoping that this isnt true but is the boremax only sold in levski now?

[nocturne whale]

What cargo ship should I pair with the reclaimer after running goods through the refinery do I need a ship that can carry a full 32 scu box or does the refinery not spit our cargo in a full 32 scu box? Thank you for your input

[open pilot]

oooh, i do this all the time. did you have a link to the issue?

[next idol]

Probably raft or the Hercules

[crisp iron]

Solo MOLE will be more profitable (and is a nicer inside, IMHO) but you have ot deal with the magic of getting into the lasers which sucks. Solo prospector is perfectly viable I did that for a long time.

[uneven phoenix]

How does the golem fare vs the prospector?

[tall karma]

It's only better if you have a ship to carry the golem like a Herc. The only advantage the golem has is that it fits into a decent number of ships that you can unload into and continue mining

Otherwise the prospector is easier to use and the mole is more versatile and powerful

[uneven phoenix]

I do have a Herc, I have tried using the mole in the past but wasnt a fan getting in and out of the different seats

[tall karma]

Get a bunch of drake pods, load them on your Herc along with the Golem and then swap out the full ones for the empty ones. Focus on non-volatile minerals like taranite and gold.

Then you can refine larger loads, and do fewer "drop offs" to a refinery

[uneven phoenix]

Noted will give that a try thanks! Any suggested loadouts for the golem?

[kindred thistle]

Is the boremax only sold in levski now?

[kindred thistle]

checked nearly every stanton location with no luck

[waxen coral]

Are the big-payout Hull C missions still active? Dont seem to have them on my hauling contracts

[snow oasis]

are refineries like always dramatically over capacity?

[crisp iron]

Where are Reigers and Helix IIs located now? I used to base out of Faithful Dream but they don't appear to be there any longer

EDIT: The default MOLE heads make me sad, literally every rock has been impossible to crack so far regardless of all factors --_--

[jovial matrix]

yeah I think so, but it doesnt actually affect you the player afaik

[snow oasis]

it makes it more expensive no?

[jovial matrix]

I dont think so

[snow oasis]

it says it would so I took that at face value buy maybe not

[delicate girder]

So completely regardless of price but not including the reclaimer, which is the best salvage ship?

[mild pumice]

I've not used my Salvation yet as I got 30 days before I can gift it back lol but I prefer the Vulture over the Fortune, better rear access if you're looting components in addition to the materials. I did hear they buffed the single scraper magically to be as fast as 2 but I've not tested that, however previously I found the Vulture about 33% faster in real use.

Salvation appeals to me as it can be easily stored in a lot of ships

[next idol]

I tried the fortune and the vulture and I have to say the vulture seems to be better. Or at least I feel that

Salvation works awesome of you have another ship with a lot of space like Hercules. You have enough space to fit the salvation and a lot of SCU

Standalone ship I would say vulture

I just read this on a YouTube comment. Anyone can confirm? I’m not at home to test it : (

[mild pumice]

damn I wish I'd tested that at one of the gateway stations in my Reclaimer, i just wasted half my life crossloading to my Asgard lol

Honestly I don't think there's enough in it for CMAT runs, 80scu gonna net me 12scu on the slowest job and it's taken me almost an hour to salvage and crossload those

That's like 100k for an hours work? I can get that in 4mins on 1 gilly mission

the % loss is too much

[next idol]

As far as I understand the numbers are just wrong for the refinery, they put it backwards

You are supposed to get -15% not 15% after refining

Or at least that is my understanding

[mild pumice]

that would make more sense

hope that's fixed in 4.5

will go and try the sell from buffer thing now

[next idol]

Hope so, I really like salvaging, Orr already and with the reclaimer shenanigans to just get 15%

[mild pumice]

I mean it was fun to do, I also grabbed a set of galdereens for my Conny so not a wasted trip ha ha

[next idol]

Let me know if it works. Probably it’s a bug but well.

[mild pumice]

well if the refinery numbers are indeed backwards it's probably by design just the same how you can sell ores

[next idol]

Oh also you can skip loading manually after refining. You can select the ship and use auto load in refinery to do auto unload on a station for selling. The only manual unload it’s from the reclaimer

[mild pumice]

I might be shard locked for a bit looks like whole shard just went down

[next idol]

[mild pumice]

back in, 30k protection even stored my ship!

[mild pumice]

should be almost a full buffer

will see if I can sell direct

174scu nice

[stable osprey]

so im coming back and giving salvaging loop another try. I have the salvation and was wondering if I should change the heads?

[orchid void]

What's exactly broken about the mole in this patch?

[mild pumice]

@next idol it sees it buy I can't sell

And I can't refine it directly

[orchid void]

don't you need to refine first?

[mild pumice]

yeah we were trying to see if you could sell the raw materials like you can with mineables (as per an above conversation)

someone said you could - it appears not tldr

for reference: #industrial-professions message

[mild pumice]

the mining heads can't be swapped

[orchid void]

What have they done to mu ship ;-; 🥀

[mild pumice]

It wouldn't be a normal patch release if they didn't break something on the MOLE

@next idol works at Ruin Station!

[teal ridge]

Ill try that later thank you

[wet moat]

Tho you earnt about 2 mill for that?

[mild pumice]

nah it's barely worth 200k refined

[next idol]

I can’t remember how much would be compared to refine it

Is it better or worst?

[royal spear]

2+ months and we still don't even know if the refining numbers are intended or they just borked them :/

174 scu for 86k is still kinda rubbish though

[mild pumice]

Well 77scu was 12scu after refining so 25scu maybe? 25x 8.5k = 212k

[wet moat]

oh yes i thoght its 8.6k each for 200 scu 😅

[mild pumice]

Hope they adjust the numbers in 4.5

Was fun to get old muchy muncherson out though

[royal spear]

how much are cmats? 5.5k?

[mild pumice]

8.5k

Problem is the yield from refining

I was going to refine and sell them at Ruin, just did the direct sale for science

[royal spear]

even with the yield it's still 223k (-cost of refining) vs 86k

[mild pumice]

Makes sense to refine and sell at the same place

[royal spear]

but it just takes so much more time

[mild pumice]

Yeah, as I say I was testing something for @next idol

For reference #industrial-professions message

[royal spear]

If you can refine and sell at the same place it's actually no brainer to refine

because you don't even have to deal with offloading boxes

as long as you only use buffer+grid

[mild pumice]

I know

As I said I was testing something

[royal spear]

ye ye I got you

just commenting on the results

[mild pumice]

I wasn't able to refine from the buffer though

[royal spear]

oh?

[mild pumice]

Nope, the ship was not on the drop down

[royal spear]

ah that's shit then

[next idol]

yeah I think that is other bug

the refining place dont takling the ship itself

[royal spear]

so best you can do is 204 for refining and 240 sold directly

[mild pumice]

Hopefully 4.5 goes Wave 1 soon so I can see what they've changed

[royal spear]

given how beefy 4.5 is I wouldn't hold my breath that they did anything

[mild pumice]

Even so with the time to unload everything it's almost not worth the effort

[royal spear]

You don't have to unload tho

[next idol]

taking in count the time of offloading I think just selling the buffer can get you more money per hour?

[royal spear]

the 204 can fit on the grid on salvage processing deck

and should be able to push into refinery straight from grid

[next idol]

ooh true

[royal spear]

the 240 in buffer can be sold directly

[next idol]

In always forget reclaimer has grid xD

[mild pumice]

I didn't try from grid, I'll check that next time, although as I say the ship was not even in the drop down on the refinery terminal

[royal spear]

that could be coz you had nothing on grid

[mild pumice]

Potentially

[royal spear]

I was just grabbing some cmats to test the direct selling so I might turn it into boxes and try refine from boxes

[mild pumice]

Let us know if it works

[royal spear]

what's the best place to try it in stanton? I haven't actually touched reclaimer since the Cmat rework

[mild pumice]

I think all the refinery station have docking collars, you just won't be able to call a hangar as they don't have XLs

So boxes will need to be on the grid already

[royal spear]

nope can't refine from grid...

Yep reclaimer is being retired to just eye candy until they can sort out their idiocy.

TDD terminal sees the cargo on grid.. Just gross incompetence from CIG on this one

[mild pumice]

Yeah it's a pain. Thanks for confirming. Wouldn't be so bad if the Reclaimer wasn't such a pain to unload

16scu boxes clears the buffer fast, it's just a pain getting them out lol

[royal spear]

eeeh I think it's still a completely shit redesign of the system anyway

I don't find clicking buttons on a terminal and waiting engaging gameplay

I would've preferred to see actual mechanics developed for salvaging

[mild pumice]

Yeah victim of being designed under the old plans (magic cargo)

Also would be good if the Reclaimer could refine on board, at least make it's size make sense

[royal spear]

I don't think the CMAT rework has added anything meaningful to the game nor will it ever unless it is completely redesigned again at some point 😛

so begs the question why release it and why now and why so undercooked

when it serves no purpose

[mild pumice]

As for unloading, would be perfect if the whole ass end opened up

[royal spear]

and nobody will engage with it and test it because it's bad and unrewarding

[mild pumice]

Probably prerequisite for crafting

[royal spear]

This is my suggesting for reclaimer with bare minimum changes.

[royal spear]

But crafting isn't on the horizon yet so why push this turd out so early?

unless they are planning to shadow drop crafting, it's still months out

[mild pumice]

It's all bits and pieces and many teams working on stuff at different stages

[royal spear]

Yeah I get it but if ain't ready just keep working on it. And if this is the best gameplay they could come up with, just don't bother frankly

[next idol]

its has something to do with crafting but kjinda dumb as crafting its not a thing yet

man I saw the reclaimer drawings and the claw was so good

ok I just got home finally

I wonder when armor comes how will affect the reclaimer

[finite lion]

What’s the fastest what to store items and other stuff in the 1scu cargo boxes? Or do I have to move every item by hand first in my inventory and then in separat cargo boxes??

[covert dome]

fwait, you can't refine from grid on reclaimer?

man am i glad i didn't buy one

[random patrol]

No you have to offload it

[covert dome]

yeah that's dumb

[random patrol]

What ship can you refine from other than mining ships?

Vulture?

Nope

[covert dome]

i swear the reclaimer had a refinery in it

[random patrol]

Future ? Maybe?

Hell its supposed to have drones

[covert dome]

doing salvage gameplay doesn't seem worth it at all 🙁 sadge

[sour folio]

salvage just isn't worth it in the vulture, especially at the current price of RMC

same for mining in stanton. Its just a complete waste of time. Pyro and Nyx is better

[royal spear]

Except Mole is still cucked

[random patrol]

You're just not motivated

[covert dome]

[royal spear]

aaaand you made 1 mil

gz

[mild cloud]

Should I keep my vulture?

[royal spear]

why not?

Just because the fucked up salvaging one patch doesn't mean it will never be good 😛

[covert dome]

the only salvage ship i currently have is a salvation, and that's just being an LTI token with a CCU up to the RAFT for the eventuality if i ever lose the raft in game

considered investing in salvage but the ROI seems terrible right now

never tried mining, though i do have a golem i got in game as well

[crisp iron]

I personally prefer mining to salvaging but if you want to do lots of base building, salvaging will be useful. Just turned my vulture into a MOLE and immediately regretted it due to current MOLE bug lol, guess I'm cargo hauling for a bit

[random patrol]

Try mining with a golem and a C2 as a base ship. Fill the C2 with empty pods

[covert dome]

i have a C2, and i will be doing exactly that if i start mining

C2's my daily driver for most hauling, saving in game to get the Hull-C rn

even if its bugged, the auec is just too good to pass up

[random patrol]

GL with the Hull-C.

[covert dome]

ty, i hate the bugs with every fiber of my being

[vestal ravine]

I had two sessions road testing the Salvation since I paid hard cold cash for it versus the Hammerhead rental with my alt. The first session I had just unloaded the 12 crates into the cargo hold of the Hammerhead and was close to the ship. When starting to fly away to continue I tapped the S key instead of W and crashed into the bigger ship destroying mine. So I ended that session and came back later for Round 2. This went much better bringing home 42 scu from all the top part of the ship and some of the sides. The ship was pretty red in the MFD photo and I am not sure at what point it might stop functioning. The Abrades on the ship worked great but you need a safe area to take a drink. So the ship is best used for a single session of 12 scu or a bigger group of Salvagers. How do you use the Salvation??? To team up let me know via DM.

[mild cloud]

Also have a salvation and could use the credit to CCU to a persus or polaris

[mild cloud]

I park mine in my Asgard and unload into it and drink on the Asgard, also can bed log from it

[royal spear]

I would rather own a vulture than perseus or polaris but I'm weird ;P

[royal spear]

Abrades are a bug sadly. The Salvation is supposed to have bespoke Cinches so fully expect that to be addressed and ability to change scraper removed.

which is a deal breaker for me as Cinches suck hard and bespoke or not, they won't make them that viable seeing they they want salvation to strictly be a starter that you change away from. I wish they would understand that people value a small ship that has scalability by being put into larger ships but that is clearly not what they want for the game 🙁

I'm surprised we got as lucky as we did with the golem

[dire forge]

Where should I ask for help if I happen to be stuck in space in the middle of pyro on a ship with no qt fuel? For future reference

[spare cloud]

In game chat or #looking-for-session .

Easiest way is to just kill yourself and fly back there with an other ship, without claiming the first one.

[dire forge]

Alright guess it’s time to rent out a refueler thank you very much

[sonic fiber]

Well I couldn't even be bothered to login today. The bugs and poor design choices are just depressing me. Tried to use reclaimer and couldn't unlock. Then couldn't frack a wreck. Then the thought of unloading, moving refining,

And all those elevators and running everywhere

I basically try to play once a day and quit once I hit something unplayable or annoying. Like 12 tries to equip a fckin greycat

./rant

[next idol]

I’ll try the buffer selling thing to see if it’s quicker that way

I just wish either the other places get better salvage missions or get an XL refinery in Stanton

ooh I found a poalris to scrap

[royal spear]

can the claw break a polaris?

[next idol]

yeah, it gives 750scu

[coarse ember]

yeah reclaimer can, vulutre and anything smaller can't

[charred lichen]

So I am a little out of date on how to do cargo, whats the most profitable cargo to take in a hull c and from where to where?

[next idol]

the buffer should be bigger tbh, the main part alone of the polaris its 525scu and i cant divide that

[royal spear]

The buffer is completely the wrong size based on concept

[next idol]

anyone knows which QT thing I can get to make my reclaimer go faster? I never changed it before. I want to try to only use the buffer to sell it so i need speed to go to nyx just to sell it there at levski

[coarse ember]

if you can find one or buy one off someone i used to use a Ts-2 or a erebos QT drive

not sure about ts-2 but i think you can find erebos at arc L1 in the galleria

[next idol]

hmm I should check it...

reclaimer has enough QT fuel for a lot of travels so speed wouldnt hurt

[wet moat]

It can even bracke the idris
that gives 1.8K

[next idol]

damn

work for like 4 reclaimers in there

[random patrol]

Youre just flying to levski to sell from the reclaimer buffer?

[next idol]

yeah, im doing Yela, levski

[wet moat]

The difficult thing is that much of that goes to waste because the partas will fill ur stoges and the rest vanisches
I got to fill my reclimer 3 times on the idris

[random patrol]

Have you done it yet? How much do you get from 240scu?

And the fastest QT drive for the Reclaimer is the AGNI (Industrial Grade B) which is below the TS-2. Erebos is a little slower.

Fastest you can "buy" instead of loot

[royal spear]

About 120k based on previous tests

[next idol]

yeah 120k

not worth the time basically

[random patrol]

You said it not me.

[next idol]

if you could land in any refinery mayb then yeah but just the travel alone its a waste of time

also levki docking its bugged so you need to add 50seconds + 5000 in expenses to get impounded

[random patrol]

Youre better off unloading at an external cargo elevator at a station that has a refinery....like Terra Gateway

[snow oasis]

where can I sell construction materials at HUR L1?

[random patrol]

The trade terminals in the galeria.

[snow oasis]

oh true

I forgot they had commodity terminals there

[next idol]

I get confused, how its calkled before and after refining

[random patrol]

CMAT salvage is before refining

or CMAT rubble for the Vulture

after refining its just construction materials

[smoky steppe]

Where can I buy the artimex armor? Like not get it from bunker missions?

[snow oasis]

why is the sell price for my CM not right?

this should be over 300k no?

oh they can't take it all?

it says 39 though

[random patrol]

Thats only 7 scu

Not 39....the 32scu crate isnt in the sell list

[snow oasis]

yea I see that

just weird it says "total: 39" in the sell area