industrial-professions

[wispy bolt]

Or I assume it is destroyed.. I never picked up the cargo, but since the ship blew up - cargo services are not responding to load the cargo purchased before

tested a new crate, left the ship floating near cargo, EVA'd back in, bought 1 box, EVA'd back - cargo services responded but only with the 1 newly purchased cargo

Seems like everything else that was not picked up is gone anyway

[modern osprey]

how are you undocking?

[wispy bolt]

N?

[modern osprey]

gotta call atc first

you're doing that ?

[wispy bolt]

did alt N too yea

[modern osprey]

ok, odd

will try when im next on

[wispy bolt]

it said "you are cleared for take off" but never undocked me

[cloud condor]

did they fix cargo tranfer with the Hull C now?

[modern osprey]

as opposed to when ?

[wispy bolt]

transfer did work when I was testing the 1 box.. it auto-loaded it

Spawning hull C in a hanger with spindles is the biggest issue I see rn

[covert dome]

so what are people doing for cargo runs now?

[narrow breach]

@mild pumice how are you liking the cargo lifestyle with the exterior freight elevators?

I fucking love them so much fun

[covert dome]

i haven't tried the exterior freight yet

is it only useful for hull-c?

my haulers are really my raft and my c2

[narrow breach]

Oddly enough, it’s useful for everything

Just pull up load or unload your cargo and takeoff

[covert dome]

you have to dock yes?

[narrow breach]

Nope, you just treated it as a normal freight elevator

[covert dome]

oh shit, so you find an open pad, land and then use the elevator

no ATC needed?

[mild pumice]

I haven't had the pleasure of using them yet but do look forward to! I've of course checked them out. I bet they'd be great for Hull A/Raft Loading or even a Polaris. It's a shame you can't just open the hatches without the ramp though!

[random patrol]

You dont even land

[covert dome]

what

[mild pumice]

They're floating, you load in EVA

[random patrol]

Yup..you just put boxes on the grid and send it down.

Theres a terminal and an elevator

No landing pad

[covert dome]

oh wtf

is there a specific suit recommended for EVA loading

i've never tried it in space

[random patrol]

Anything that has o2?

[covert dome]

hmm, OK, I'll keep an eye on those types of suits

[random patrol]

Whay do you use now?

You play a space game and have never been eva? Thats unique

[covert dome]

i've been eva i think once

i've stayed within stations or planets for the most part

one time i went on a planet and died randomly because of no o2 but that hasn't happened since

[random patrol]

Those cargo elevators are at the larger stations and the gateways...like Terra etc

[covert dome]

damn, first actual pvp encounter happened doing these Ming routes

glad i was in an asgard

[random patrol]

If you jump using doglegs you won't have issues with running into meatheads

"Limited issues"

That and avoid OM's

[covert dome]

they were waiting at the station

[random patrol]

Ah

[covert dome]

was Vivere 0LP, which I've never been to before

[random patrol]

Haha oh an olp thats why

[mild pumice]

we really could do with the Hull B for the type of missions we have vs the external freight elevators, all around 400scu

[covert dome]

wait, are OLPs special? >.>

oh its a laser platform

[random patrol]

Yup...youre bound to run into issues at an olp..

[covert dome]

good to know

i'll avoid those routes

[random patrol]

Was it a cargo contract?

[covert dome]

yup

its the new one for Ming

[random patrol]

Ah

[covert dome]

four pickups (olp, rest are planetary) and dropoff at Ruin in Pyro

[random patrol]

Payoff?

[covert dome]

222K

[random patrol]

Sounds like a lot of work for 222k

Asgard is a good ship for it though

[covert dome]

yeah exactly why i wanted it

if i'm going to be doing planetary and especially pyro runs i need something with cargo and some pew pew

[mild pumice]

Hull C seems more reliable this patch, seeing if I can combine jobs again

running this now

I also have pickups from PT and BP going to ruin station

[covert dome]

oh nice

let me know how it goes

i'm looking to rent one to make money to buy one in game

ain't going to pledge for that thing, too buggy

[mild pumice]

I did a haul from Levski to Seraphim - no issues

[fickle kraken]

Raft doing 400k per 30 minutes

[mild pumice]

I wanna try the RAFT with external FEs, should be nice

[covert dome]

what are you running for the RAFT?

i'm doing these experienced hauls with the C2 from station to station and they're brutal to load

400K in 30m sounds like a dream

[mild pumice]

first drop done (had to hail cargo ATC 3 times lol)

next stop I have unload and reload, let's see if the spaghetti code can work that out

[sly robin]

Nyx is honestly decieving for mining, as is 4.4

Mole heads are bugs.
Lindium is just tougher to break Taranite tier mineral
Savrilium is so far, very rare.
With the increase in price of Quantainium I don't understand why we should mine in Nyx

[covert dome]

what contracts you running

[mild pumice]

does the Hull C have any kind of cargo manifest so i can check what's loaded?

OK so it loaded but did not unload 😄

trying to unload the rest of the first job

It's working!

done!

and my other jobs are loaded - happy days, off to Ruin Station

[unique ridge]

so autoload IS working

why are all these people saying its not working

[past fractal]

Because it's very intermittent, and just because it works once for one person doesn't mean it consistently works

[covert dome]

because there's tips and tricks to get it working

that too

jumping to HUR-L3 is a bitch for some reason in this hauling contract

[mild pumice]

had to stop for fuel at Stanton gateway - making the last leg of the trip to Ruin now...

all completed, the 3 missions to ruin all unloaded together in one go

[patent crater]

I remember there was a bug a few patches back where you could grind Hull C hauling rep by loading the cargo then cancelling the mission as long as you grabbed the boxes it gave you the rep.

Any idea if that still works?

[pearl juniper]

Grind cheat (fixed it for you)

[mild pumice]

interesting mission!

[covert dome]

any salvagers in here?

[fickle kraken]

Small direct planetary.
From orbital station down on planet. Grab like 7 of them and 1 medium.
On trip back grab 1 medium with big load of giant boxes from planet to orbital station.
Repeat.

[covert dome]

wondering if it's worth getting the salvation

60$ seems like a steal

[covert dome]

oh shit wtf LOL

all same location or split locatoin?

[patent crater]

So it was patched then?

[elfin rune]

Golem ox in the menú?

[fickle kraken]

Stanton, each of 3 habitable planets have orbital stations and corresponsing missions. Tried personally on newcabage, area51, and slavetown.
Never tried on odinson, so no idea

[covert dome]

how the hell did you get it down to 30 minutes

[fickle kraken]

Valakar meat delivery, yummy

[fickle kraken]

Simple.
Get around 7 missions. They all have small boxes. Calculate scu so you dont step above 192 before accepting mission.
Rise boxes.
Get into atls.
Load all boxes for around 8 minutes +2 minutes on walking, or if some boxes fly away/you have problems with stacking it in correct way/atls refuse to see what to grab
Connect atls on raft grid.
Fly away.
Fly time is around 5 minutes + queueuueeu waiting time, so another 5.
Then unload with atls that you dropped from raft grid in 8 minites, + 2 minutes if any bug, or you missed a furthest row when started to unload. To manually shovel everything in freight elevator.

We can try together on next week if you want

[covert dome]

sweet, looks pretty simple to me

[fickle kraken]

Longest are usually queue to hangar and most confusing are atls refusing to work.
Unload is usually faster than load but main factor is how good you with monocular depth perception.
It takes some time to get used to put box on furthest layerof cargo grid on ship and elevator. If you spin wheel toomuch, it unsnap the supposed location and it become too sensetive to mouse movement and you have to drop the box and pick up again and graduate range again.
The moment you learn how to pick furthest row on first time, you improve time.

To unplug atls from raft, you had to change angle and distance that you aim with gravygun, be carefull not to fall from edge in garage

[dusty oracle]

Anyone tried to fit the salvation into a carrack yet?

If it can go where the ursa goes. I could put golem and salvation on that bad boy and go to work

[long frost]

Where exactly do i see those? i'm in stanton...

[mild pumice]

are you master rank?

[long frost]

yep i see other master contracts

one shitty 525k contract with 10 destinations...

[mild pumice]

I picked that one up at Seraphim, it was under the stellar contracts

[long frost]

interstellar right?

[mild pumice]

there's a lotta shit to filter thru

[mild pumice]

stellar

that one was in Stanton

[long frost]

umm can't see stellar, maybe solar?

[mild pumice]

then I picked up from two of the 3 and delivered to Pyro (Ruin)

[mild pumice]

I swear they called the tabs stellar, interstellar and planetary now.

this one specifically

[long frost]

Weird, to me it looks like that...

[mild pumice]

wtf

[covert dome]

wtf your mobiglas bugged

[long frost]

yeah

maybe because it was the first login, i am gonna relog

no...still bugged god damn

[hidden garden]

Does anyone have the salvation?

Was wondering how big it was to let's say a pisces

[covert dome]

it’s on display at IAE atm

[olive gull]

its about same size

[drifting cave]

Where do you refine RMC

I took it to CRU L1 but the kiosk doesn't see my cargo (in fact it doesn't let me pick a location at all)

[wet moat]

CMats need to be refined but not RMC

[drifting cave]

ohhhhhhhh

[near swallow]

You can rent one for free at IAE.

[dim stirrup]

with the changes to hauling, what contracts are you all finding profitable to stack with the hull c?

was doing the 711k ones prior to the patch

[hidden garden]

Time to see if it fits in my carrack

[brittle oyster]

not sure if the right place to ask but is there any way to unload the reclaimer at the lagrange stations? been trying to figure out if we have to actually go elsewhere to first store, then move there with a cargo ship or if there was some method to unload stuff directly from the reclaimer to the stations to refine

[fierce harness]

Mole mining head issue fixed yet?

Its this there way of making us use Teach shop?

[dusty oracle]

So besides being able to hold more in the hopper and cargo hold what advantage is the vulture over the salvation debating which to pledge

Already melted my prospector into a golem

Which I plan to use carrack as the hauler

[mild pumice]

There's space if you salvage components too, something you can't do in the salvation

[dusty oracle]

Correct I just wanted to make sure salvage specific as I’ll house it in the carrack and deploy from there so cargo is mute for me in that regard

Just didn’t know if vulture can salvage different than chunks

[mild pumice]

The salvation fitting in the carrack is a nice touch ngl

Not sure I only use my Vulture for RMC

[dusty oracle]

Alright I think I’ll just get salvation then and use carrack to house golem or salvation when I wanna play in the waters

[mild pumice]

For CMATs I'd bring out the reclaimer

[dusty oracle]

Thanks for info

[mild pumice]

Yw, I'm sure there will be others who have more info too before you make your decision

[royal spear]

So Salvation got dual scrapers and 6scu and poor fortune stuck on 1? xD

does the Salvation auto poop out the boxes like fortune?

I gotta try this thing out. It does feel like you would be spending far longer traveling than scraping solo. It's nice that it fits on other ships and if you could keep the boot open and poop boxes out for a ship to follow you and scoop them up that would be a game changer

can comfortably fit 2 in c2. Maybe 3 with some sideways/diagonal parking shenanigans but that takes more patience than I generally have.

[fast jetty]

I've not been able to find Rieger C3 from any of the mining stores recently (ARC L2/CRU L1/MIC L2/HUR L2). It hasn't like...changed stores has it?
As of 4.4 at least.

[pastel flame]

Not sure, they're at Levski refinery for sure.

[fast jetty]

That's actually convenient, I'll check it out.

[royal spear]

The printing animation for Salvation is a bit disappointing. The hatch opens and the box just pops into existence in the furthest cargo spot from the hatch..

also having back deployed and pooping boxes out into space is a no go 🙁

It also feels terribly slow to salvage with. Could be the rubbish cinches on the rental but it feels bad. ~15-20mins for 3 scu of RMC

Also no crafting option on it which feels bad as a starter

and obviously no fracture capability but why on earth would you even want to with 6scu 😛

[last karma]

are the bulk hauling hull c missions gone?

[teal ridge]

Whats a decent cargo run? One place to another?

[royal spear]

do you mean trading or cargo contracts?

[royal spear]

The 700k ones appear to be.

[simple cape]

All I wanted to do was go mining.
But no, I can't qt anywhere so now I just have to play something else

[distant crow]

Is changing mining lasers on the MOLE bugged?

[royal spear]

Haven't tried but don't see why it would be? Doing it through mobi?

[distant crow]

Tried that but my mining heads are able to be changed.

[royal spear]

ook.. like what's stopping you?

got and screenshots?

[distant crow]

The heads aren't available, only the modules. I own a stack of them and only the modules show able to be changed.

[royal spear]

you sure you bought the s2 heads?

[distant crow]

Yes... had on a rented MOLE and bought the MOLE today. They don't show as an option to change. Going to go buy a new one and see if it's an inventory issue

[royal spear]

huh.. that is odd...

best I can offer is try and claim the ship and see if that fixes it

[distant crow]

I can pull the ore pods off when I unlock the ports, but the tractor beam will not attached to the laser heads, and that's all I get in the Mobi

[royal spear]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-184519

seems to be an issue, contribute and upvote

nvm they archived

so they are aware of the issue

can contribute here https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-184338

[distant crow]

So there's no work around or uproar from the mining community yet? Damn...

[royal spear]

No need for uproar. Report bugs on issue council and wait for them to be fixed 😛

That's kinda the point of this whole tech demo we are playing

and mole is still playable with default loadout, albeit not very efficient

[distant crow]

With it being the king of the mining hill, what I meant by uproar, is one would think it would be a very hot topic as it appears to have surfaced days ago.

[royal spear]

eeeh mining isn't really a hot topic atm

[distant crow]

That's so helpful.

[royal spear]

sad but true

there hasn't been anything new added to mining in a few patches, it's not the focus for testing and it's not particularly profitable as a reasult. It's still fun to do and people do go mining as it's arguably the most fleshed out system we have

[distant crow]

Well I'm not alone.
https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-184338#contribution:237e4c02-841d-4c4a-b26a-833d82d5d2af

[royal spear]

you definitely aren't 🙂

[distant crow]

At least there are 239 of us

[wraith dawn]

anyone figure out how to get the materials out of the salvation??

I scraped the 6 scu and it says my filler station is full, but I have no idea how to get it to eject the boxes.

[royal spear]

Hold F and look right

you can poop out 6 boxes onto your grid so 12scu total

[wraith dawn]

just found it, thank you so muh this is perfect

im using the asgard as a mothership, it can hold so many boxes along with the salvation. great combo

[random patrol]

Salvation fits nicely in the c2

[elder arrow]

Does Anyone. have a list of the new ores that came out with nyx

i cant find shit on the wiki for this

[main trench]

the new SC Haulers video covers the new three ores. Torite, Lindinium, and Savrilium. Most to least common. Lindinium is worth searching for, savrilium is not.

[elder arrow]

Thank you, i couldnt not find shit for dick on any of this infromation and all the videos i come across just show you "HOW" to mine

i just wanted to know the new ores ahhhh

[elder arrow]

Is savrilium just not spawning or whats up with that

[main trench]

Savrilium is rare enough that it's more profitable per-hour to go for lindinium.

If you target just savrilium, you can probably get a big payout once you're full, but you'll spend years searching for enough to fill up.

It does spawn, but rarely.

[elder arrow]

So if you come across it kinda deal just grab it

how much is Lindinium for 1 scu?

And should i just focus Torite / Lindinium?

[main trench]

Definitely worth grabbing, not worth searching for.

[elder arrow]

Noted

[main trench]

Watching now to see if I can find the numbers behind it

They're in M type asteroids if you want to focus those

[elder arrow]

Gotcha, anything else i should focus for a profit in nyx?

i got a golem, a mole, and a prospector,

I have a golem in a M2 with a ton of spare pods (took 50 minutes to set that up with the bugs being a pain in the ass)

[main trench]

Lindinium is 10k/scu.

[elder arrow]

10k per 1Scu?

thats not too bad

[main trench]

yeah it seems p nice

[elder arrow]

anything else to focus on / find

and is taranite good to grab too

[main trench]

Not that I'm aware of.

I think lindinium is more often found in rocks that also contain torite, less likely to find it with taranite

Taranite is still worth grabbing I think

Not sure about anything else to do in Nyx for profit making purposes. I actually went back to Stanton, since Levski is pushing the boundaries of RAM.

[elder arrow]

I put my home in pyro since i like it there

trying out nyx for mining and stuff

but so far it has been the biggest fucking headache

BTW whats the keybind to turn on your like modules on a ship?

[main trench]

I dunno, I had to hand bind my HOTAS

[elder arrow]

Ohboi

[unkempt spoke]

Has anyone had luck with hull c loops this patch? Wondering if trading terminals are viable now after the big nerf

Crazy that it is, once again, the vulture that makes the most money consistently

And here I am just turning one in to get an arrastra, sigh

[heady remnant]

best setup for prospector?

[spare cloud]

Helix head, same modules as the Golem

[heady remnant]

what are the best ships to use as motherships? for golem/prospector mining

because ive been doing the m2 with a golem but i feel limited with the golem

[spare cloud]

I had listed them all the last time. There isn't much choice.

[hidden garden]

The salvation should salvage at the speed of the vulture yeah?

There's not like some modifier that's different to make it slower despite having 2 heads?

[heady remnant]

is 32 scu enough for exec hangars?

[random patrol]

From what ive seen in a vid or two the Salvation has a speed multi of 10x, Fortune is 9.6 and Vulture is 4.8

[hidden garden]

What's a speed multi?

[random patrol]

Speed multiplier....meaning its faster

[hidden garden]

Oh I'd assume the vulture was faster than the fortune

Since it has 2 heads

[random patrol]

The vulture does hav an advantage though (for some reason) ....a Radius Mulitplier of 1.05 vs 0.8 for the Salvation

[hidden garden]

Hmm okay. So a salvation with abrades should be faster than a vulture?

[random patrol]

I would assume thats correct

[hidden garden]

Okay so storage is the problem and I can fix that with using my carrack

[random patrol]

Looks like thats the whole idea.....having a hanful of these in a big ship and just salvaging everything you run into with friends.

Or solo

[hidden garden]

I heard we have to refine salvage now, can I submit my carrack and do it from the inventory or do I have to unload it?

[random patrol]

You have to unload it

And yes you have to refine it

I run a reclaimer a lot....im used to it now

[hidden garden]

Fair enough. At least the carrack should be a faster unload

[random patrol]

RMC u dont have to refine

CMATS u do

[hidden garden]

Isn't RMC what people usually go for though?

[random patrol]

In the amller ships....yes....In a reclaimer....no

At least I dont

smaller

[hidden garden]

Why do you go for CMATS?

[random patrol]

Reclaimer works in bulk....and its faster to fracture ships (for me) to get large amounts of CMATS....vs taking the time to scrape RMC in a big ass ship

On avarege I unload 1000+ SCU's of CMATS from the reclaimer

1000 SCU's of CMATS gets you 1.275mil after refining

Ave price of 8500 per SCU of CMAT refined vs 5600 for RMC

1000 SCU of RMC would take me (even with another player) who knows how long

[hidden garden]

You have to unload that by hand right?

[random patrol]

Yes

[hidden garden]

Ew

[random patrol]

Luckily its 16 SCU boxes

[hidden garden]

Not so ew

[random patrol]

Yeah you get used to them....She can print from size 16 down....so if you have less than 16 in the hopper you can print 8's or 4's etc

[ionic topaz]

Yea i love the reclaimer, if only we could move boxes to the cargo hold easier

[royal spear]

it definitely didn't feel faster but that could be the cinches on the rental... it was painfully slow.

[wet moat]

I heard the reclaimer has a bugged cargo grid. What's the bug?

[random patrol]

None that I know of but you dont store the boxes on the small cargo grid....you just stack them wherever you can.

[wet moat]

Ah ok
Must be an old information

[coarse cape]

How is claimer to unload? Haven’t used it since freight elevators come out

[random patrol]

They improved the opening at the rear so you just toss the 16SCU's down into a pile then load them into the cargo elevator.....It isnt 100% perfect but its better

[hidden garden]

I may try it then

I refused to have to unsnap everything and self destruct it

[random patrol]

Ive never had any issues with the cargo in the reclaimer.....I just stack as much as I can fit in there

[royal spear]

You might be confusing it with the fact that it has NO cargo grid on the salvage cargo deck.. >.<

[royal spear]

imho other than the fact that you can now it without risk of falling out the longer opening and fact you can't clip boxes through the floor anymore makes it worse but eh. At least you don't have to glitch boxes through with dumb physics..

[hidden garden]

Is the bucket thing still there?

[random patrol]

Underneath?

Yeah

Its a small platform....if thats what you are talking about

[royal spear]

The Salvation could be a decent little 6scu cargo runner too.. Though I think new golem might render that moot depending on price.

[hidden garden]

It was my understanding it was in the way while unloading

[royal spear]

it is

[hidden garden]

You can put it in a carrack and load the carrack

[random patrol]

Its lower now so its not in the way that much...you can easily move boxes off it

[royal spear]

I more mean as a starter ship it's actually quite decent. I didn't like the idea of a hyper specialised starter like Golem because what if you quickly figure out you don't enjoy mining so thought the Salvation would be equally bad choice for a starter. But it does have slightly wider use case than golem at least.

anyone tried loading 4scu and 2scu boxes into it?

[covert dome]

the ox might actually be the best starter hands down because of the amount of scu available

until you get the raft, that thing is seriously solid

[hidden garden]

I mean I like them simply because if you dont like them a simple ccu of 5$ can get you a decent starter or something like a c8r.

I think salvage is a better starter than mining though because how simple rmc is

[royal spear]

That assumes the pledge store will always be a thing.

[royal spear]

Yeah depending on price it kinda runs the risk of rendering most other cargo ships redundant in the light-medium range.

I hope they actually have the balls and make it fully unarmed and sacrificing any other functionality for cargo

[covert dome]

i think the only thing better would be like, the asgard

at that point

corsair is 72SCU

[royal spear]

I mean it's a big jump to asguard 😛 I more meant like your c1s and multi role ships that people use for cargo

[covert dome]

asgard is still technically medium but i see your point

i haven't picked up a C1 becaues i already have a C2 so it seems redundant for the job

[royal spear]

c1 is a joy

[covert dome]

i'm probably gonna pick up an A1 instead

asgard fills the light freighter role with a little firepower nicely

[hidden garden]

They aren't passing up that money stream.

[covert dome]

they will when 1.0 is live

[royal spear]

I have an E1 (so A1 loaner for now) which I'm excited for but c1 is a great little ship for small jobs. I usualyl bring it out when doing smaller mining or salvage ops with friends and ferry their loot for them.

[covert dome]

i'm just a giga crusader fanboy so i'd get it purely for the vibes tbh

only reason i haven't gotten the MSR is the lack of data running in the game

[royal spear]

Other than the airlock/cargo bay door (which more ships should have realistically) being a bit annoying that it sometimes closes it's a great ship for quickly grabbing cargo off a vulture, fortune, golem or prospector in space and just quickly depositing it (+ salvation now)

It will be interesting whether it will become even more convenient for atmo hauling with its wingspan when atmo flight models come into play.

[covert dome]

that'll be interesting

[winter glacier]

tbf, the fact you have to go outside to repair components (later on) is a downside compared to the hull A
plus significantly less quantum fuel and less hp and shielding (the Hull A has a S2 shield)

[royal spear]

yeah but I would rather roast my balls on barbecue than fly a hull series ship that I am not forced to

[winter glacier]

but for just in-system hauling the ox is perfectly sufficient

yeah if they dont give the hull B a tractor beam that reaches both sides, im not sure if im applying the ccu i have for it from the raft

since you already know the flight profile is gonna be concrete slab

[royal spear]

as it should be

[covert dome]

hull series is just incomprehensively ugly

gimme more sleek crusader/aegis/anvil ships plz

[winter glacier]

eh the A and (original concept of) B I think is fine, the C upwards is where it just gets goofy imo

hm, the salvage modules on the Salvation are swappable, didnt they say there were bespoke?

[covert dome]

wait, they're not bespoke?

i swear they said they were

[winter glacier]

its cinch modules, seems like i can swap them for abrades

[covert dome]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1p26zhi/star_citizen_behind_the_ships_rsi_salvation/

bespoke scrapers supposedly

[winter glacier]

i thought it'd be custom like the mining head on the golem

huh, so the head IS bespoke, but why would you swap that one out? I've legit never touched those on the vulture/fortune

like on the prospector and vulture you can already not swap those, i genuinely dont get the point in cig calling it 'bespoke' then

[covert dome]

that's a little weird

man stacking contracts seems much harder now for cargo lmao

is the hull-c currently the largest cargo capacity in the game? or is that like the idris or something

[ionic briar]

When you mine quantanium and bring it to a station, the timer stops when you send it down the elevator. If you were to send it down, then call it back up and reload it on your ship to bring to a better refining location, would the timer continue where it left off or would it start over?

[modern osprey]

Hull C is more than double the Idris .

[random patrol]

Sounds like something you need to try out. 🫡

IMO I would just refine it there.....Not worth dragging it somewhere else to get a better percentage unless its really a big buff

[ionic briar]

With Levski’s bonuses to refining, it’d totally be worth stockpiling in Stanton and Pyro, then hauling to Levski.

[random patrol]

Whats the bonus for quant?

Nm I found it.....5%

[random patrol]

Never put all your eggs in once basket. Your stocpile can easily be taken from you during your trip.

[ionic briar]

Fair point

[plain pewter]

Would it make sense to get a salvation when i've bought a vulture ingame? Planning to use the salvation and put in my corsair or asgard/C2 (when i get it)

[hidden garden]

I do like doing big runs in a carrack, but that's commodity trading

Although I rarely do runs between systems

[random patrol]

Yeah consider the work getting the ores first....then taking them all to Levski....

[royal spear]

If it's stuck with cinch and they aren't "upgraded" ones like golem got it's own actual bespoke laser this ship is gna be rubbish 😛

it already feels stupidly slow to get rmc with the loaner

[covert dome]

anyone run into the issue of selecting a contract and suddenly your contract list refreshes?

o_O

i can't stack contracts because i plot them out and selecting a contract suddenly the entire list is new

[unkempt spoke]

that might be specific to the planet you're around, I'd double check at one of the lagrange or another planet

sigh, I'm just still so so salty about how much they nerfed the Hull C

makes absolutely no sense at all why they would do that with how buggy it is, AND to make it make less than a Vulture is just

beyond the pale

[covert dome]

i selected them while on a station

now they're sticking for some reason but my original list is gone

[unkempt spoke]

yeah just change which whatever area you're orbiting/on and see if it follows

[covert dome]

i didn't change area though

[unkempt spoke]

if they brok contracts on top of nerfing something that didn't need a nerf, UGH

[covert dome]

like i selected them first while in the station

[unkempt spoke]

no what I'm saying is see if you can stack contracts somewhere else

[covert dome]

well it's stacking now so i'm wondering if its server lag

like i still had contracts from another zone and once i selected one it refreshed? idk game's being weird

[unkempt spoke]

probably

that's why switching where you are is likely to work

during free fly I also try to use regions where its 2AM

so this time of day would be Australia/Asia servers

[covert dome]

fair

yeah something's wack, it refreshed again

[grand trellis]

Did they fix the hull c missions and trading

[covert dome]

if you mean the 700K hull-c missions those are gone

[unkempt spoke]

they are, yes

[unkempt spoke]

as far as I know, no

they just nerfed without a fix

they did resolve the 'your vehicle is not stationary' but none of the undocking issues

I have not heard that it is actually resolved though

they basically took away the workaround for hull c trading 🙄

[covert dome]

man, doing 8 30k missions is noooot worth

might just forfeit all these and go back to station-station hauling for 165

[unkempt spoke]

no trading contracts right now are super fucky

it also makes 0 sense that as you build rep the pay stays exactly the same

you do more work for less pay

[covert dome]

that's always been the thing

[unkempt spoke]

makes 0 sense

[royal spear]

Anyone played around with the new external cargo lifts in Stanton yet?

[random patrol]

I did at Terra station....its pretty straightforward

[royal spear]

seems a tad risky at some busier hubs if you are solo

[covert dome]

you still get gateway contracts?

i haven't gotten any

[random patrol]

You are the only one who can send down your cargo

Anyone else gets an error

[royal spear]

oh

how does it know whose cargo it is o.0

[crude thunder]

I'm not sure who needs to hear this but its okay to put furniture in the back of your Salvation. It can hold 1 3 seater couch, or 6 bean bag chairs

[random patrol]

Party bus

[royal spear]

RSI MPUV Personnel?

[covert dome]

weird looking salvage you got there

[crude thunder]

the real salvage has always been the friends we kidnap along the way

[royal spear]

dumpster diving is a form of salvage

[covert dome]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-line-anthony-mackie-sam-wilson-falcon-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-gif-21182970

[crude thunder]

Salvage gameplay and Scavenge gameplay are a nearly homogeneous venn diagram

just, one spends more time picking through the components and weapons

[royal spear]

how does it know who it belongs to?

[random patrol]

Dont know....magic?

[royal spear]

What if I pirated it off your ship..? It doesn't make sense that it wouldn't let others deposit your shit when every other freight elevator does?

[covert dome]

you can't pirate off a ship

[random patrol]

Maybe you should get another player and see if it does it

[covert dome]

at least not with tractor beams anymore

[royal spear]

?!?!

[covert dome]

you used to be able to yoink out of someone's cargo hold when outside it

[crude thunder]

Anyone know if Hull C missions are a thing of the past? I haven't seen any of the 3k~4k scu missions

[covert dome]

they removed that during resource drive

[covert dome]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it's what i was told, but idk if there's a patchnote somewhere referring to it

[crude thunder]

no they did do a few changes for the resource drive, you can toss cargo onto someone's ship but that person hast to remove it (like loading rafts)

[covert dome]

you have to be in someone's party to be able to remove it

[crude thunder]

unless in party

[covert dome]

otherwise it won't let you

[crude thunder]

during resource drive you could pirate from their elevator though

[royal spear]

That is the most idiotic thing I've heard and that's a high bar in my industry..

[covert dome]

yeah, that i'm not sure if they fixed it

too many people were griefing

[royal spear]

How is that griefing?! Bring friends to guard you?

So now you have to blow someone's ship up to pirate it?

[crude thunder]

guards can't do anything in armistice neither can you

[royal spear]

was resource drive even in armistice?

[covert dome]

yeah

it was

[royal spear]

yeah prob the elevators were

[covert dome]

people were ramming each other but couldn't shoot

[royal spear]

CIG is mindboggling dumb sometimes

or lazy

prob both

[covert dome]

i watched a polaris ram a raft that stole cargo from it before

lmao

before they implemented the change

[crude thunder]

remembering mountains of dead, decaying rafts and C2s blocking outposts, elevators that were sabotaged, pirates at the OM points

[royal spear]

I swear I've watched people board and steal C2s with cargo after killing owner

[covert dome]

see the raft? he was slamming ontop of him

[royal spear]

after RD

[covert dome]

in or out of armistice?

[royal spear]

ooh you're saying you can't tractor people's shit only in armistice

okokok

[crude thunder]

they also added if you board someone's ship in armistice you would be teleported out

[royal spear]

I'm following now

[covert dome]

^

i'm like 90% sure it's only in armistice but i haven't tested it

so the external elevators are in armistice afaik

[royal spear]

I feel like these workaround are far more complex than them just lifting armistice and making guards and turrets functional but ok..

[covert dome]

who cares if it's out of armistice, then your defend people scenario makes sense

yeah

i actually am curious now if out of armistice it still does the thing

[royal spear]

so if I kill you, take your ship, fly it back into armistice, can I unload your cargo? or is it glued? 😛

[covert dome]

because it would make sense if you kill the pilot suddenly it counts the ship as unowned

well that's the question right

does it become your ship at that point

[royal spear]

But dying doesn't lose me ownership.

[covert dome]

oh hm

[crude thunder]

if you kill me in space or away from armistice and take my ship its basically yours and you can take the cargo but not asop the ship

[royal spear]

so unless it's a specific script for pvp kills idk..

[covert dome]

god i hate this game sometimes LOL

[royal spear]

probably.. I guess you lose ship marker if you get pvp killed?

You definitely don't if you step outside for a brisk walk without a helmet.. ask me how I know

[crude thunder]

no you keep your ship marker, I watched mine fly from pyro back to stanton .... I was able to respawn, hunt him down and blow it up with him in it

[royal spear]

if you keep ship marker than you keep ownership until you claim it

[crude thunder]

pretty much I didn't claim it so it was still my ship and not game rules

[royal spear]

HOW IS THIS SIMPLER THAN TURRET GOES PRRRT?!

[crude thunder]

lot of landing zones dont have turrets

[royal spear]

yeah and ctrl+c > ctrl+v costs $600mil per use.

I think that's enough SC for now.. gna go eat something before I lose braincells

[unique ridge]

i think it's glued until you unlock ports

[covert dome]

well this is fun, i can't hail ATC at HUR-L3 for some reason

hail's not doing anything o_O

its pinging but nothing comes back

do you lose contracts if you alt-f4

[spare cloud]

Not if you log back in right after.

[covert dome]

ok, i'm going to see if that fixes it, i literally can't land at HUR-L3 to deliver my cargo 😭

[mild pumice]

HUR L3 large hangar has been broken since around 4.1 lol

[covert dome]

well shit

so the large contracts to HUR-L3 are DOA then

[mild pumice]

There was an IC for it I think

It plagued my run through the Senior Rank

I remember on one occasion doing all the other stops then going back in a medium ship with the last bit lol

I used to so those missions in my Caterpillar, was pretty chill just avoided HurL3

[covert dome]

that's brutal

[covert dome]

question: will grim hex take all my random contract boxes now that my contract is gone?

i need to offload em somehow

[jovial matrix]

it should yeah, you'll get payed almost nothing for them though

[covert dome]

that's fine, just trying to offload them

it's a TDD terminal?

it's better than yeeting them and causing space debris

[jovial matrix]

its more like an admin office, its in the main concourse area

[covert dome]

i'm assuming i need to offload them into storage and autoload doesn't work

[jovial matrix]

That I dont know

[coarse ember]

sweet, fortune can almost fit the same amount of rmc crates as vulture, 33scu if you fill both sides, the 4 scu cargo at the back, the buffer and move a few into the hallway, managed to almost fit a whole m2 worth of rmc into it but didnt feel like filling up the entire hallway til i couldnt move out the door

about like 6 less boxes than just using the vulture

[rancid egret]

Good Morning friends, im interested in getting the RSI Salvation. i was curious, with its 6 SCU storage. what would selling material like be in terms of financial return? im not expecting to make huge cash (millions etc..) but if i could make 50k - 100k a run, that would be perfect and more than enough. :)

[vestal ravine]

I just made like 62 k on the 12 crates at Orison.

[rancid egret]

perfect !

[rancid egret]

ty! thats a good amount :)

[hidden garden]

It's small enough to put in other ships rather easily

It'll fix the cargo problem

[rancid egret]

Well its more like i just want something i can mind vege out on, watch movie or YT. But still play easy salvage gameplay and make small pocket change here and there

[jovial matrix]

have you considered the fortune? Same idea and gameplay as the salvation, just more

[random patrol]

The single head on the fortune just bugs me...

She does hold more though

[jovial matrix]

Why?

[random patrol]

Dual abrades vs a single one....Im used to the vulture and reclaimer

Fwiw I do have a Fortune....Ive used it just not as much

"personal preference"

[jovial matrix]

yeah

[elder arrow]

Hows nyx going for everyone?

[covert dome]

haven't been

doesn't seem like much point at the moment

[storm storm]

its cool

pretty nice missions

[covert dome]

what kinda missions

[elder arrow]

Combat, search, and i think some salvage?

[royal spear]

I'm curious to see how they double golem's cargo.. Can we have Drake day yet? Can't give a shit about overpriced RSI shit 😛

[elder arrow]

oh there isnt any salvage contracts in nyx

[royal spear]

Is the ox in the exhibits yet?

[elder arrow]

I hope we get some when planets and shit are added

no clue

i've been in nyx this whole time

[mild basalt]

Yes

[elder arrow]

isnt the ox just a golem but for cargo/

[mild pumice]

Are there no Jnr Rank missions for Ling? Just reached Jnr rank and not seeing any in Stanton, just the single Rookie one.

[royal spear]

yeah but with 64scu of cargo

[elder arrow]

64 is pretty nice

I'm hoping we can see / have some really cool drake ships that arent so costly

i thought about getting an RSI galaxy, but the modules being 70-80-90$ each is insane, and yeah you can get them in-game at some point but like bruh

[royal spear]

do they sell it empty like the tally?

[elder arrow]

I think they do yeah

[covert dome]

yup, they do

they also sell the uh... the big home ship

oh i guess that's the tally

wait, exploration missions? o_o

[covert dome]

man how is anyone making any decent money these days hauling these new contracts are crazy LOL

[pulsar lake]

i like the combat missions in nyx but the fact they are all 20+Gm apart is killing me in my arrow 😂

[torn tundra]

Do they have any plans to make commodity hauling viable again? Or is it kinda just dead in the water

[cloud condor]

i know its not the channel for it, but any fix when the Hull c spawns in hanger with cargo spindels open?

[silver creek]

Are all of the beams for the mole locked rn

Also can u still double the capacity on it

[analog grotto]

Yes, mining heads on the mole are all locked right now. Its a bug.
No, pod stacking was fixed several patches ago.

[silver creek]

Dang that's super unfortunate ofc they fixed that bug right away

God forbid people wanna actually mine and not play find one rock simulator and refine

I think arra loaners are worse than the endeavors tbh

[wooden kraken]

Forgive me for not skimming previous messages, but would anyone know if they Mole's mining heads are fixed yet?

[past fractal]

Until crafting comes out, and/or base building, mining is a means with no end. I understand why they've waited on the Arrastra, Expanse, and Orion; without a point, there's no need.

Mining, Logistics, and Salvaging aren't supposed to make money, they're supposed to shave costs. There simply is nothing other than money-making for them to do right now.

[vapid chasm]

can a golem fit in a asgard?

[crude thunder]

Are the 3000-4000 scu cargo missions still a thing for the Hull C? I haven't seen them despite Senior rank

[royal spear]

Tally = Retaliator :p

[royal spear]

I've not tried it yet in 4.4 but TDD performance is still in the "known issues" section so I wouldn't hold my breath.

[royal spear]

They don't appear to be

[royal spear]

They are not

[royal spear]

That's is a terrible take. All of those things SHOULD make money. You should not be expected to do every part of every process in every system of the game. Otherwise just make it into single player NMS clone. You are supposed to be a cog in the machine for the most part and be sufficiently compensated for your part in it. I'm sure there will be sweats who do it all but realistically if they want the loops to be meaningful they also need to take time and effort and most gamers simply don't have enough time to do it all.

You wouldn't expect a miner irl to also be driving the truck to the refinery, refining the goods, loading them onto a different truck, driving them to a factory, working the smelter at the factory to turn melt down the metals, produce moulds for the metal to be pour into, bring them to the factory, pour metal into the moulds, (after ofc having a degree in design and engineering to engineer/design wtv it is they need to make), make the thing, test that it work, refine the issues, market the product, distribute it to retailers, sell the product to end customers and then be the end customer that buys the product to use it. Just to cut costs on having a new mobiglass or something..

[past fractal]

You're absoutely right, that's why those things are supposed to be split up by a multitude of people...

Some people mine, some people salvage, some people transport, some people craft, some people shoot, some people play the market. You aren't meant to do all of it, you're meant to do "a" part of it, in a group

[royal spear]

^So can a Salvation

[royal spear]

Exactly so mining will always be a way to make money, not just an means to facilitate crafting

We just don't currently have the professions down the line that would generate the demand so it is artificially generated by TDD

[past fractal]

The point is, you're supposed to market those things to crafters looking to save on goods

TDD is a placeholder

[royal spear]

well I imagine it will stick around as a failsafe and a way for them to regulate the market

[past fractal]

Right now, the only "point" in the game is money. That isn't supposed to be the case forever

[royal spear]

Their vision involves a lot of "npc economy" as I call it which will keep the wheels turning even if players don't

[vestal ravine]

Did the Expo change yet? I want the Salvation

[crude thunder]

Does Mic L1 not have any freight loading ? doesn't even seem to have a cargo call or external elevators but the game sent me here for 500 cargo

[wooden kraken]

Be advised, if you quantum jump, the Golem de-spawns.

[random patrol]

Only hangars and docking ports

[royal spear]

The salvation is already available..

[royal spear]

500 cargo missions are assuming you are using caterpillar or c2

[crude thunder]

I have a Hull C... was going to experiment with exterial cargo lifts or loading multiple missions. But it seems to be sending me to stations that don't have a loading dock area so the 200k-300k seniors need a Cat/C2 it seems

[royal spear]

yeeah or you need to be extra vigilant about where they are sending you

that being said, I imagine the destination still changes when you pick up the contract? I haven't tried yet in 4.4

[crude thunder]

seems to be telling me the same pick up location and drop off... these have you pick up from a refinery station and then deliver to 3 or 4 of the Port stations like PT/S/EH/BP

thought I was being clever picking up 2 or more of different cargos but if the collection station doesn't support a hull C its going to be a problem

[rancid egret]

whats the hot key to press to start "munching" with a salvaging ship ?

i can't find it in the menus

[blissful flume]

Reclaimer pilots, is there any refine station with pad for a reclaimer in Stanton?

[tall karma]

Just buy modules in game.

[elder arrow]

None

Only planets have hangers to land, and grimhex.

But no "refinery"
Only in pyro for hanger + refineries

If you're in Stanton you'll have to unload at a planet hanger OR grimhex Into a cargo ship and then head to a refinery

[blissful flume]

Wow thx

[onyx trench]

where can you find Boremaxes now (and some of the other gadgets that seem to be removed from Stanton)?

[wary ruin]

did they get rid of salvage missions

[tacit matrix]

does intergalactic cargo have a higher chance of pirates or like ai pirates or something just curious because i like at least having some aspect of fighting but also like cargo

hmmm that sucks but no worries maybe soon

[tall karma]

Hilarious that you can slap those chonky vulture salvage heads on the salvation.

[verbal lintel]

I haven't salvaged since before they added the refinery changes. How has that been working out so far? Profits still good? Does it feel anymore tedious?

[humble stump]

how much AUEc per hour do you make iwth mining now?

Salvaging seems kind of bad now

[plain pewter]

regarding the RSI Salvation, we can't change the heads to abrade? Time to melt it then.. pff

[humble stump]

Half of it winded up being marked as stolen so if not for that I guess half an 890 jump's RMC is like 300k.

[agile holly]

my reclaimer is hungry.

[elfin rune]

Bespoke, nope

Anyone know if the refueling works? My starfarer needs some action

[plain pewter]

hm, i just tried it and am able to add abrade :S

[elfin rune]

Its a bug theorically

But great, i hate the small head

[plain pewter]

yea, i hope they'll leave it like this. Otherwise i'll just keep on using the vulture. the salvation would be nice that i could store it in a bigger ship...

[steady lily]

Hows mining in nyx?

[mild pumice]

these interstellar missions take the biscuit

[maiden rapids]

I was hoping the Salvation would fit better into a Corsair >.>'

Sometimes scale is very hard to judge in this game

But then again, even ground vehicles are enormous

[mild pumice]

this one's a bit better - 24s and 8s - although I'm tempted to just steal the RMC and take it to Grim Hex 😄

[steady lily]

Yo, do any of yall know how I can get a lot of money

[modern osprey]

yes

[storm storm]

yes

[steady lily]

how

[storm storm]

player trading is the best, but need to know how

then theres begging in chat

then theres chilling with rich dudes (they sometimes give out free money to cool people)

[steady lily]

So many people are saying player trading, What items do you even sell

[storm storm]

wikelo items

pristine medals for example always sell fast

or the atlasium boxes (although those are hard to get

or just farm a bunch of compboards and sell them for loads and loads of moneys

[steady lily]

How much does each of them cost? like for example Pristine medals or Compboards

[storm storm]

pristine medals sell em for 4 mil and full set compboards if you are patient can go away for like 15mil

[modern osprey]

check out #market-street

[steady lily]

How hard is it to find medals? Especially pristine ones?

[modern osprey]

not hard

[steady lily]

But they sell for four mill each?

[storm storm]

gotta know what ur doing

and ur gonna come to realise 4 mil isnt a large sum

[steady lily]

personally 4 mil is a lot

[storm storm]

figured so, but once you get into player trading 4 mil isnt gonna be ''big''

[steady lily]

Can you give me a quick rundown of medals? I know theres like different types but I'm not really familiar with wikelo stuff and the items required

[modern osprey]

this isn't the channel for that

[steady lily]

Which channel is it then? as far as I know this channel has trading in it so im assuming it includes player trading/commodity

[storm storm]

https://starcitizen.tools/Wikelo
^thats the website that lists all wikelo stuff.

medals you get from ace pilots which rarely spawn in most headhunters missions. soft kill their ships and loot their bodies, also collect their helmet, you can sell those too

[humble stump]

I plan on renting the Teach's Mole and having my friend use my prospector.
What should I put on the Prospector to make up for how the Mole can't be modified to its best loadout? Just more power and lower instability?

[hushed basalt]

Do they still sell atlasium in 8scu boxes?

[storm storm]

yes

[hushed basalt]

Oh nice I thought they were gone from arccorp 157

[storm storm]

nope

[humble stump]

Also why do so many people only use a single beam on the Mole? Isn't it easier to crack rocks by combining beams?

[spare cloud]

Because they're not crewing the ship 🤷

You can't power a head on, leave the seat and go power the next one

[humble stump]

Can't you turn on a beam then leave the seat?

Oh

[spare cloud]

Sweet summer child

Oh

A single Helix can still crak a 68k rock, but that's an unholy setup. A more reasonable one is still very decent already, and you can use the other head for low power//extracting rates....

[humble stump]

low power/extracting?

[spare cloud]

Your big rock killer Helix is too powerful for small rocks or rocks resulting of a larger rock cracked.

[humble stump]

You know Mole heads can't be changed now right?

[spare cloud]

You know that's only new from this patch right ? And I still haven't seen a word on it from CIG, so I'm going to say it's not intended.

[humble stump]

Yes but I want to mine now, not after it's fixed

[spare cloud]

Also because it defies the whole purpose of having a full selection of different S2 mining heads

[humble stump]

So I'm asking about now, what is good to put on a prospector to work along side a teach's mole which has fixed loadout

[royal spear]

Does it not? Guessing it's too long? Wonder if it fits in SL

[spare cloud]

Heard it fits in the Carrack, it should fit in the Corsair

[royal spear]

Carrack has a bit more leeway for length though as the walls buldge out and you can part diagonally.. Corsair has the stairs and the ramp needing to close

I'll try it see if I can squeeze it in

[royal spear]

It's not intended. It's a bug and has been confirmed on IC @humble stump

[spare cloud]

Yeah figured that, ping 315p lover about it instead.

[maiden rapids]

It can fit but it's so tight it's basically not an intended fit and it's possible landing gears must be folded in as well.

[royal spear]

Well it's not really intended to fit in most things but we make it fit.

[rich berry]

is anyone else having issues swaping the mining heads on the Mole?

[modern osprey]

known bug

[rich berry]

thanks. any workaround?

[royal spear]

nope

[rich berry]

dam

😛

[somber stone]

Hello! How's mining in Nyx? Does it net something more interesting than Stanton?

[royal spear]

It technically fits but not sure it should 😛

you slightly glitch into the stairs to get out

Could've maybe not gone in as far

it kinda defeats the purpose tho as the real reason to bring it in a bigger ship is to have space to store extra RMC because its own cargo capacity sucks

[spare cloud]

Not swappable with tractor beam ??

[royal spear]

you defintiely don't have room to spare for that

[royal spear]

nope 🙁

[maiden rapids]

That's the dream, isn't it

Thanks for trying it for me

[royal spear]

The dream is very much alive with c2 and asgard

[maiden rapids]

Very true

[royal spear]

you can comfortably fit 2 in c2

[maiden rapids]

But I don't have those right now

[royal spear]

your best bet is to have a buddy bring a small hauler like a c1 or the new OX when it drops and snatch the rmc out of your boot when it prints

and do runs back to lz while you keep scraping

otherwise you can do a similar thing as you will keep your ship marker and just fly back to it.

Gna try the tac next

definitely can't fit in the hangar but might be ok in the cargo hold

hmm initial thoughts are "hells naw"

huh...that was surprisingly easier than the corsair despite the awkwardly short entry. Had to pull landing gear up to get in and then deploy it inside but she sits..

With very low impact on the grid

So might actually be a nice combo with the MAX. Would also be much easier to get in and out in space

[spare cloud]

Take off gonna be awkward with the sticky landing gears

[royal spear]

about to try it

tested flying with it wasn't moving or rattling. Didn't try QT but should be fine

yeah she's a permanent fixture

maybe park her in reverse and you can scrape out of the boot xD

does the max have a taller cargo bay?

seeing as there is no hangar above it?

[spare cloud]

Or tractor beam

Maxlift should be capable of it

[maiden rapids]

I don't think it does. The Max could have had a bigger rear cargo area instead of the big lounge area

[royal spear]

apparently not

[spare cloud]

[royal spear]

maybe in space?

[maiden rapids]

Or rather, it's the space where the all the individual rooms are that becomes the Fury hangar

[royal spear]

yeah..

according to cargo grid viewer it looks like the grid in the back is actually shorter

for some reason...

nvm I'm an idiot

it's the same

[spare cloud]

Yes, you can move larger things in space, that you aren't able to in atmosphere.

But, your Salvation in a gravity field, from your SL. Being in space won't change shit

[royal spear]

it's ok, you can safely self destruct it within the cargo bay xD

while comfortably sitting behind the blast door in the med bay

It's annoyingly close to being functional

Misc always find a way to put a random stupid buldge in the cargo hold to make it annoying to use..

[subtle valley]

cig:

[royal spear]

I do lowkey think it would be hilarious to salvage out of the butt of the SL with a salvation that was rammed up it 😛

Can also confirm that you can change scraper modules

Not sure that was intended but I hope it stays coz the cinches suck

Sadly the caterpillar isn't going to be the salvage swarm mothership I was hoping for

[maiden rapids]

Would have been goat

🐐

[royal spear]

The dragonfly swarm is still very much alive tho

they just need to let the passenger fire railguns of the back

[maiden rapids]

Those vidoes of Furys launching from the cat is a favourite of mine

[royal spear]

imagine 16-18 dragonflies swarming out all carrying a railgun on the back

or you breach the main door and an army of Iktis jump across to board

[vestal ravine]

Is for the rental Salv or a pledge Salv? On my rental I cannot use VLM.

[royal spear]

you can't modify rental. It's for pledge one

[vestal ravine]

Ok I've been going crazy trying to change to the Abrades.

[royal spear]

Fits comfortably... we need this to work... 😛

Could even have some spare room for cargo

or top docking...

looks like it was designed for it..

[elder arrow]

How's the industrial side of things this IAE

Anything worth getting or nah?

[wise stump]

has anyone tried the salvage mission in pyro the 150K if its fixed now and worth doing ?

[mild cloud]

Is it just me or does the salvation scrape hulls faster than the vulture? (I've upgraded the cinch to abraides)

[sharp swift]

Speed vs efficiency

[mild cloud]

Is there any reason to buy a ox if I have a raft?

[sharp swift]

I think the Ox is a beast

Huge container capability, pilot controlled tractor. small form factor. It's appropriately named

[spare cloud]

What's the buffer size of the Salvation ?

[sharp swift]

6/6

[spare cloud]

So 12(13) total

hmh

[sharp swift]

you're right, it's 6/(7)

my kids will be tickled by that

[novel panther]

Hi guys! I'm kinda stuck.
Raft for swift hauling start is set, but .. what next? Would like to stick with hauling for a while, but don't like the exterior Hull-storing. C2 is no option though - so either Caterpillar or directly Ironclad?

[spare cloud]

Sounds like you're all set

Not sure why C2 isn't an option tho

[sharp swift]

Remove caterpillar from your mind. Too much of a pain to load IMO. IC will be the best ship on the block until engineering proves we can't solo a multicrew ship (maybe)

Golem Ox is also another great option for a quick load and go platform

I'm gonna grab one for sure

[novel panther]

That multicrew issue would persist on both, I'd only be able to duo on most parts.
Golem Ox is nice, but I'm already set to Raft.

[elder arrow]

There's an 150k salvage mission in pyro?

[wise stump]

Yes, I am doing it right now to check if it works now

on my way there

[elder arrow]

Elaborate on this,

It's this new and how do you get it?

[halcyon plaza]

is it not possible to replace the default MOLE mining lasers in this patch? they are gray in the vehicle tab :((((( bug?

[spare cloud]

It is not.

[elder arrow]

Mole is fucked rn

[spare cloud]

Heard it wasn't even possible with a tractor beam

[halcyon plaza]

correct, just tried

is it fucked in more ways or can i mine with the defaults?

[elder arrow]

Yeah it's kinda broken

You can mine with it I think?
But because you can't change it's loadout it'll be impossible to mine stuff that's huge or smth

Just use a golem or a prospector

[elder arrow]

How'd it go?

[wise stump]

first attempt nothing spawned but the mission was old. now jumping to the 2nd one see if it changes

Its a headhunter mission u need to go up the rank to elite contractor on standing

but atm they changed some stuff with the missions before the 50k mission was good to do with the cargo you had with it.
the cargo got removed..
the 120k mission was okey ish but also cargo removed. kinda sad to be honest.

[elder arrow]

ahhhh

[wise stump]

It still doesnt work

kill a hammerhead and a connie to salvage

not worth for a 150k mission

i heard from some youtube they where busy fixing them

[elder arrow]

Gotcha gotcha

[wise stump]

it says loads of xenothreat swarming one of supply convoys. there is nothing part from those 2 ships I said.
The defending ship aint there or no marker. go to cluster does not update. I made a post on Issue council. but not enough people care or do the mission for them to check and fix it.

[elder arrow]

A lot of the damn HH missions are busted

[elder arrow]

Honestly, imma give you a template later, can you fill it out and stuff so I can compile it into my big fuck off list of broken HH missions.

[wise stump]

of the HH missions there are 2 50k missions the first you get doesnt work.
the 2nd was good but now is nerfed with no cargo on it.
The 80k does not work alot of times. of the 10 times I tried it 2 times I managed to get a way point to it. Amd getting there not worth doing. for the price.
The 120k works but not worth now with no cargo on board aswell.
the 150k does not work toward the text. U can get to the mission. But a waist of time to try, U cant finish it, and paying 150k for a hammerhead and a small ship.. wtf.

The 50 k mission that does work sometimes u can get 2 HH just wrecks.

Before they changed the missions, They had a 150k mission that was worth doing like 4 5 big ships c2, HH, 890, carrack, etc.
Or even In the wake of disaster was good.

[silver creek]

How is salvage now profit wise

And also how does the new stuff change it like what's the steps now

I'm thinking of doing the foxwell red level either patrol or ambush with Percy and reclaimer

Cuz Percy can easily deal with the ships u get good cargo and then u can scrap the 6-8 ships

Most being bigger

[sharp swift]

I haven't heard much about the profit going down, but it does have a different flow since you now have to refine your haul and each size platform produces a different product (rubble, powder, etc).

[elder arrow]

Different ships give different results etc.

RMC is at 5k roughly
And Cmats are about 8-9k

So about the same as mining you just need a ton of materials from it

It can give a lot but it's also just lots of cargo moving and all that and refining

I enjoy it quite a bit because I like the whole salvage stuff and Industrial side of things

[coarse cape]

How is unloading from reclaimer to refinery?

[elder arrow]

Really depends on location.

If you're in pyro, it's pretty easy, dock > store ship > call it up so you're in the hanger > unload > refine/sell, at the same location.

Stanton?
Absolutely fucking miserable, you'll need to land at a plant or grimhex and unload into a cargo ship, yes exterior cargo bays are a thing but i do not trust that shit especially when your solo unloading a reclaimer, someone could very easily steal your shit so quick

Nyx, docking collars are fucked so you can't even land in a reclaimer, if you could call a hangar instead of a docking collar I'd be happy, but nope we can't

[coarse cape]

Yeah but how is unloading from the reclaimer though

[elder arrow]

Pretty easy, you just yeet the boxes out the chute in the back

[coarse cape]

Ah

[elder arrow]

They extended that chute so you can just toss em out 16scu fit pretty well

Sometimes they'll get stuck but it's easy to unstuck it

[hollow sedge]

sooo idk what im doing but how do you not get bored doing cargo? when it seems the only way to make money unless u got ppl to play with. cause im struggling to want to do it. i played like a whole week just to get almost through member i think and i haven't wanted to do cargo since lol but haven't gotten enough money to get a salvage or mining ship to learn that stuff yet

[silver creek]

Ight I'll look into it getting my rep up then gonna attempt it

Now what about the mole how is that currently since u can't change the heads

[elder arrow]

Haven't used the mole

[silver creek]

I don't really mind the flow change tbh

[silver creek]

Fair I have one cuz I bought arra and I'm realizing RN that that was a mistake

[elder arrow]

Combat, ground missions, cargo, mining, salvage, trading,

Don't just look at money earners look at what's FUN for you.

[silver creek]

See but fun is earning bigger number means more dopamine

[elder arrow]

Everything makes numbers go up

[silver creek]

Yes but somethings too slow

Idk that's how my brain works low key hate it

[elder arrow]

cowabunga

[humble stump]

this is solid for group mining right? since you have 2 beams to provide power to break big rocks already

[covert dome]

my favorite hauling location oh boy, DestinationAddress

[ocean compass]

whats the difference between the different factions for hauling? i see Covalex / red ling etc

is there something that we must do?

[rancid egret]

is there something wrong with salvaging

ims tuck in fracture mode

can't go back to scraping

[vestal ravine]

My roc only deploys there is no bag...

[humble stump]

What sig of rocks do you look for in Nyx?

[pearl juniper]

I wonder if the issue with the Mole lasers is related to the "Teach's Special" version you can buy in Nyx. It appears to come with different lasers stock

the one in the showroom has a Helix on the front turret and Kleins on both sides

[humble stump]

Where do I find Savrilium?

[oblique nexus]

Did they change the volume of salvage beams lately? They seem a lot louder than I remember

[main trench]

destination & haul type i think

[main trench]

Glaciem ring, but it's so rare it's not worth hunting - 1%. Try focusing lindinium. Ideally, M type asteroids.

[humble stump]

Taranite and Lindinium seems okay yeah. They're 1850s in glaciem right?

[main trench]

yeah

M is 1850

[heady remnant]

What ores should one even go for at the moment

[humble stump]

Seems like Quant mainly still. But Taranite and Lindinium is decent too.

[toxic citrus]

Covalex is for hauling stuff within a system, ling contracts have you go from stanton to pyro for example

[candid zodiac]

anyone know how i can make the hull c spawn at a docking port instead of my hanger, im not too keen on losing 1.5mil worth of iron

[drifting cave]

Is there a trick to picking out good hauling contracts?

[robust island]

need salvage advice. trying to find a good bead on abandoned ships without paying for claims in contracts. was told they could be found around space stations, but seems I just find ships with sheilds on?

[sharp swift]

Hop on them and turn off their shields. Then scrape away

[sharp swift]

Gotta work your way up the rep tiers

[drifting cave]

Do stellar contracts give more rep or should i stick to planetary?

[ocean compass]

is it important to do ling rep grinding then?

[toxic citrus]

Thats really up to you

They pay decently but can require quite a lot of work

[sharp swift]

Rep tier is what matters

[trail crane]

Do different systems have different contracts available?

[storm storm]

yes

[trail crane]

Is there a best place to go?

[red granite]

yes

[trail crane]

Can you elaborate?

[elfin rune]

Its the golem ox available to rent in the drake hall? Can it fit only 32scu crates or any size?

[trail crane]

I like the fps stuff and hauling and ship combat havent tried mining or salvage yet I couldn't get the contract to load

@elfin rune I think drake is over its on to the alien hulls

[elfin rune]

Fuck

[red granite]

Yes I can.

wherever you enjoy playing. IDK define "best"

[wet moat]

Is this a bug or did i somthing wrong?

This is the 2. day i try to scrap and get this

[sonic fiber]

Wasted and hour doing party run from Levski to orison. Desteoyed by hangar

[fierce harness]

is the mole fixed yet?

[gaunt warren]

Hello, I am doing cargo missions with the Perseus. I am at CRU L1 and need downloads. I know there are external cargo areas, but I am always sent to docking because if I approach that area, my ship is removed. How can I do this? Thank you in advance.

[sharp swift]

Locations have various sizes of ships they are able to accommodate with a hangar for loading and unloading. I do not think your desired method is feasible and would need to select contracts that start and end in locations can have XL hangars

[lavish flower]

Hull C missions gone??

[gaunt warren]

The location where I am, where cru l1 has hangar L, which is suitable for the Perseus. I have stored the ship to see if I can spawn it again in the hangar. Thank you for responding.

[sharp swift]

The Perseus only needs an L hangar? Wild. Awesome though

[unkempt spoke]

Well hull c is still officially fucked, unable to transfer bug persists i have not been able to complete a single contract since 4.4

Don't know if there's a new work around but holy fuck why cant they figure this shit out since 3.17

[jovial matrix]

Idk if this is a 4.4 thing or if this is old news, but they buffed the legal salvage missions. I can get connies, and even hammerheads for just 10k

[flint carbon]

is the global chat bugged? why isnt it working?

[vestal ravine]

I noticed this to and it's great really. How long you think it will last? On my brain this is the right way to have it.

[vestal ravine]

Yes bugged for me to...

[flint carbon]

ok glad to know its not just me

[serene kelp]

Anyone try mining in Nyx?

How is it?

[stray valley]

came back after 6 month break noticed that the 700k hauling missions are gone😭 does trading still work with hull c though ? anyone tried it yet ? is it smooth ?

[serene kelp]

Not smooth, very broken.

[stray valley]

damn my only ez money making method is gone😭 understandably though curious about the interstellar contracts is it safe ? or is it swarming with pirtes ready to snare ? 😂

[serene kelp]

I haven't tried em.

Contracted cargo will be safe tho.

[stray valley]

prichiate the info thank you✌️

[unkempt spoke]

High paying ones are gone, just shitty $250k payout missions now, contracts are more broken than in 4.3 as well

Youre lucky if you can load, and you cannot unload at all

[unkempt spoke]

Completely broken

Even worse than 4.3, ive tried about a dozen of the hull c missions and run into the ship is not stationary bug every single time

[stray valley]

damn its been like what ? 2.5 years ? since the ship came out and its still a mess ? i swear to god cıg hates us logistic enthusiasts 😭

[dim stirrup]

I tried to make a loop and stacked multiple contracts. It struggled with auto unloading, bugged and I guess lingered in the cube too long and the hull c disappeared leaving me in space.

At this point im near getting a C2 and will haul with that until they fix the hull c.

[reef frost]

i lost like 3 mil today on this bug lmao

i thought it was me that was causing it

[mild pumice]

250k honestly isn't bad for s quick A-B delivery, 700k was always too much except for the failure rate evening things out lol. There's quite a few interstellar you can stack now, when it works.

As always Hull C hauling is very much effected by server performance and we're currently seeing a lot of degradation but earlier in the patch the missions were working well.

[dim stirrup]

I was wondering about the interstellar contracts, can you pick up multiple from one station and drop off at another?

I unlocked red wing hauling and didn’t do the other one. Not seeing any that you can stack and drop off and do A -> B. Wondering if I need to unlock ling family hauling or get the red wing rep up.

[mild pumice]

Yeah and it can even load/unload at the same time when it's working! I took 4 missions pick up different stations in Stanton and delivery to Ruin Station in Pyro, did it all in one go, no issues. Even had to refuel in Pyro and amazingly that even worked lol

Red Wind are all Master Rank though, so probably you're not seeing them

Ling only has Rookie contracts at the moment

[dim stirrup]

Thank you for that info! I need to get my red wind rep up then and try that out. Even in Stanton I had an okish experience with multiple contracts but I got into a loop where it wouldn’t work. I’m glad you’ve had it working for you that time lol

[simple cape]

Considering melting my SRV+Vulture pack To get an Ironclad. Turns out I dont use the SRV or vulture much, if at all. I like the SRV but there is no real play for it.

Is the loss of 400 scu cargo and 3 tractor beams worth going for the assault version to pewpew better? or should I just focus on hauling

[stray valley]

i mean right now the cargo version is more usefull since we dont have much use of the features the assault has like the ground vehicle repair bay once ground combat becomes more meaningful like attacking other player build bases then the assault would be to go option for me but for now i'd say go with the regular one

[simple cape]

Eh, I'll get combat one. Why not right?

Not like I can even fly it yet

[stray valley]

true 😂

but dont get it now though the loaner wich is a catarpillar is absulute dogshit to haul get the c2 until ironclad gets released

[simple cape]

lol

[unkempt spoke]

I've had 0 success in 4.4 so far, even with other commodity trading

Its not limited to hull c

[stray valley]

i just finished my first trip with the hull c doing intergalactic rokie hauling with redhaul everything worked flawlessly for me i even stacked 2 jobs each around 400 scu got both payloads loaded and unloaded idk whats the case on your end :/

maybe do a character repair ? maybe that will help

[unkempt spoke]

Every single time ive had ship is not stationary

Either cant load or cant unload

[stray valley]

did you try press z after being stationary ? i had this problem once where my controller was giving micro inputs not letting cargo to load but once i got recommended this it worked for me

[unkempt spoke]

Yep

[unkempt spoke]

I even key bind ship turning because it snaps back to 0 when you let go

None if the workarounds have worked that did work for 4.3

Also had a ship despawn full of cargo in the hanger too

Lost a mil on that

[stray valley]

damn...

[soft latch]

how do i salvage with the vulture efficiently? i took it out last night for about 2 ish hours and got full cargo, 13 in the hopper, full grid and the spare space was full. got it all from salvaging panels, earned about 150-200K cant remember the specifics.

[vestal ravine]

Look for the bigger ships in the legal contracts in Stanton.

[soft latch]

i was told salvaging panels was the best way? is this wrong

[vestal ravine]

Not really I just like ships with bigger open sections better.

[vestal ravine]

And twin Abrades...

[soft latch]

ahh okay thank you

[unkempt steeple]

Hey, does anyone know where you can sell Torite and how much its worth?

[humble stump]

Is the rime module good on like an additional miner? Can't you get resistance to 0 with them so another one with a helix can crack it eaisly?

[mild cloud]

Any thoughts on the srv?

[stray valley]

https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/torite/tab/locations_buying

[modern osprey]

I use my Ox instead now , seems better

[mild cloud]

Ox can tow?

[wet moat]

Panels are more monotone but the most efficient. 1 big Panel gives around 5 scu

[vestal ravine]

I have it but it can't tow the bigger ships so it's not that valuable to me. They need a bigger version of this ship.

[mild cloud]

Oh ok I was thinking I could park my salvage ship in the middle of nowhere, grab a bunch of salvage contracts and qt to the salvage ship I was thinking Asgard and salvation combo. Then unload everything to the Asgard, drop it at a station and repeat

[simple cape]

In theory, yes. In reality. noy

[mild cloud]

What's the problem?

[simple cape]

SRV has towing issues

[mild cloud]

Loses ships?

[craggy tapir]

maelstrom is realistic ship destruction, right?

ya'll think we can use beams to cut bigger ships into smaller piece to be salvaged?

[regal tide]

Are all mining heads bugged where they can't be switched out?

[craggy tapir]

think so, yea

[humble stump]

Does having some of the meter in the red when the green fills cause you to lose some resources or something?

bruh I'm losing so many modules to being through through the ground tryign to drop them..

[wet moat]

Prospektor works

[distant crow]

My MOLE has been having performance anxiety ever since we've been stuck with the stock Arbor lasers.

[simple cape]

I never really maximised my Mole's gear. Would always go out and mine, then something would happen and I'd either blow up, or game crash. Or I'd go refine it and then forget about it until next wipe

[wet moat]

You can rent the Mole from levsky
It's a bit better equipped

[humble stump]

Do all nyx refineries have the same high rates? Like is the pyro gateway one as good as levski?

[next idol]

Anyone knows if they fixed the refinery for salvage? Like, if it take a what it’s inside the ship

[humble stump]

Wait so if you use the surge module after another module, the surge won't interrupt the first module?

[lavish flower]

guys whats the bigboy money method now (similar to the hull c bulk missions)

[storm storm]

player trading, or if you are skilled in fps combat selling the vanduul corpses

[vestal ravine]

I have an SRV you can try out or rent one at the Expo.

[fierce harness]

I feel this is why the mole is even broken atm and it makes me upset

[royal ingot]

Is there a BIS Mole or Golem setup?

[mild cloud]

Thanks for the offer, I'll rent one because I don't know when the kids will let me on lol

[fierce harness]

There are common ways people like to set them up... but as far as BIS alot changes on personal preferences..solo, 2 man, 3 man , group... where u mining. What size rocks etc etc

[royal ingot]

Well then, guess I have a lot to learn. Mining is a weakness that I want to learn so that I can teach others.

[fierce harness]

There is alot to learn with mining

Makes it fun

[junior pier]

i thinking about buying a hull c for cargo hauling, i was wondering can you load the hull c on the ground, because most cargo missions i do need me to go to a planets surface, and i was wondering how i would do that in the hull c

[sour folio]

has anyone found out what the highest ship is that the vulture can fracture?

Im guessing not a c2 or connie, but what about a freelancer?

[wet moat]

The Hull can only be loaded on stations with Exterior Cargo Elevator or auto Loading zone

The auto loading zone is also kinda brocken/buuged at the moment.

[molten basin]

Is anyone having problems with their multi tool unequiping the tractor beam and then becomign unusable?