industrial-professions

[pulsar lake]

I finally saved up enough for a Raft, I'm assuming there's better profit/hour routes for cargo than the area18/baijini 6 contract loop?

[compact plank]

If you're still on the junior contracts, then that'll be the best you can do. Member rank will remain on the same route, unless you wanna do the other member rank ones.

But that's afaik from experience

[cloud condor]

how is trading with a Hull C these days?
still any problems?

[gritty quiver]

If I am refining 10800 cSCU in CM at high yield. Does anyone know approx how many SCU that will produce?

[next idol]

I think u get like 15/20% of that at least in the relcaimer (for what I know reclaimer and vulture/fortune have different salvage outputs)

but in the refinery should say in the right how much you will get

before even refining

[gritty quiver]

Ok. Yes, it was from reclaimer.

Thanks

[cloud condor]

i think abouth 36 scu

[red granite]

move the decimal point 2 spots to the left

multiply by your yield rate. The "get quote" should tell you how much, you can decide to accept that or cancel and choose a different refinery method

[random patrol]

1620 after the refinery

15% is the highest ive seen unless someone has seen it higher.

Ah nm he said cSCU

Derp

[cloud condor]

i get 30% with a vulture

[random patrol]

Yup but you are limited to a small cargo area and 1scu boxes. Reclaimer is at 15% but can print 16scu boxes and hold hundreds of salvage

[ember sierra]

Has there been any statement on the 85/70% VS 15/30 %? For Construction Material refinement

whether the smaller amount is intended, or a number error

[misty sphinx]

haven't seen anything except the original issue council post

[lean cypress]

15% is abysmal wtf

[misty sphinx]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-181513#issueEvidence:05a1ef72-5683-41e3-9dbc-ca1eb36282d7

that's the IC link for the report

it's listed as "confirmed" which could either mean that the seemingly 80% people are getting from the vulture is supposed to be 20%, or the 20% people are getting from the reclaimer is supposed to be 80%

it seems like some people were also getting about 30% for both in some cases, at least from what a few have said in the comments of the IC post

[next idol]

interesting

I hope it gets fixed but so far it still the same even tho we had a patch adn a hotfix iirc

because I really like salvage, its a pain in the ass the refining having a reclaimer but the 15% its killing me

[covert dome]

how worth would you say it is saving for a hull-c in game @next idol

my 3 haulers are c2, raft, and caterpillar atm

[next idol]

for making money its very worth it even tho it has some problems that mostly are fixeable with workarounds, if you get to experienced/senior you get contracts that gives you 711 UEC per trip, from terra gateway to pyro gateway

once you learn the workarounds its very straightforward

[covert dome]

i'm trying to get to experienced atm

😐 did they get rid of the magnus everus run

it's missing from my supply contracts

welp

back to planetary grinding it is

[next idol]

its very good as if you want to get a ship you can grind some with hull c and the other aprt getting doing other activities so it doesnt become too boring

[covert dome]

sweet

ok, well i'll continue grinding towards 16m and experienced

[formal cairn]

do Unverified Contracts give a crime stat? or is it just a risk for combat or something

[red granite]

depends

[next idol]

bestest of lucks!

[covert dome]

two hours later, i'm so close D:

took me 2 hours to do 10 missions though, ugh

[covert dome]

finally

[next idol]

lets goooo

[covert dome]

now to figure out how to get hull c

x-x gonna take me forever to get 16m

[modern osprey]

Rent or borrow one from another player?

[covert dome]

could do, i suppose

[modern osprey]

or wait 2 weeks and see if you can free fly one at IAE. 2 days should be enough time to make what you need.

[covert dome]

misc isn't until nov 24-25 according to the schedule

[next idol]

just get someone to give you one

[covert dome]

yeah convinced a friend to loan me his tomorrow

he never uses it

tips for stacking experienced contracts?

[modern osprey]

in a hull C?

[next idol]

just do 1 at the time as it will bug if nto

[modern osprey]

1 contract fills it usualy, Bulk hauls aren't really stackable,, nor will they work with the autoloading/unloading

[inner zealot]

hellooo help im trying to repair something, how do i load a full canister into my multi tool

[wise stump]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-183344#contribution:afb64494-62f5-4196-b59d-4d2a40194471
Could we get a few more voting for this.
Its about the Salvage mission 150K what is bugged and the reward compare to a lower costing one does not make sense.

[royal spear]

To be honest that is the least of the problems with salvage atm... They need to sort the core loop out because it's currently dreadful and not worth doing. Even though I enjoy salvaging immensely even I'm not masochistic enough to be doing it atm..

[wise stump]

I dont care about the worth. Its for crafting later. want to make money go haul.

make the missions have markers to jump to. I still salvage everyday. because I just like doing it. Not for the money at all.

[royal spear]

ok.. if the foundation of how to get crafting materials is dogshit, boring and unrewarding then crafting will also be that.

but yeah, fair, contracts shouldn't be broken

[wise stump]

I dont know I am giving them the benefit of the doubt

I would like it fixed not for me. but for future people want to do the missions and end up grinding for a broken mission

[royal spear]

Yeah the entirety of salvage contracts are worthless tbh even before the heavy nerfs to profitability on salvaging. The only ones worth a damn were the unverified ones around yela. This might change when ships stop being the most expendable resource in the verse but currently there is never a reason to pay for a salvage license other than larping.

[wise stump]

The only mission is worth in my opinion is the 50k HH mission 2 convoy ships. change for HammerHeads. C2, m2, a2 with scrap and gold in them. Just the cargo I had lucky finds for over 2 mil in worth, not counting the scrap ad munch

And what is sad is the components you do find, only c and d grade

there is not a change of finding a grade a or b. the only b grade I seen are stealth components.

[royal spear]

tbh it would be far better for the contracts to be there to teach people how to find salvage rather than spawning in a ship for them to salvage.

then you can find decent components and decent salvage.

[wise stump]

Yeah before you was able to find ships in belts.

those panels are the most boring thing to spawn

[royal spear]

I've not done the math but the panels always felt to me a bit extremely resource dense compared to salvaging a ship

especially in a vulture/fortune

it completely wrecked my immersion

one 2x2 sheet felt like it gave me more rmc than multiple light fighters that are several times its size

[wise stump]

yeah, those panels are bleh.. cant munch them at all.
I like the 50k mission cause it gives cargo iron, gold, scrap and pross food. When crafting comes it are free resources.

Yeah I know what you mean, even if you would scrap a reclaimer panel or carrack. it never gave as much as those panels

[royal spear]

Is the M2 cargo bay shorter or is it just the grid made shorter to troll us?

[zenith crag]

Hey guys... im now a member rank in covalex but the member missions are like 4x deliverys to different locations.

Where is the best location for member missions? Hurston seems bad.

[coarse ember]

i think usually best to stack hauling contracts if they're all going to one location only or the station-> city ones

last time i bothered to do hauling contracts was just doing the station to city ones since it's pretty short and you can get em done pretty fast

[zenith crag]

yes but these grant a little amount of reputation

it will take days to get to experienced for the Hull C missions..

[vestal ravine]

Do the 24's double stack in the C2?

[royal spear]

it's tight but yes

[subtle valley]

there's an invisible wall to troll nerf you I believe - otherwise it makes the C2 defunct, why would you not choose the better M2 😄

[silver geyser]

Tressler. Look for the 6 90k missions that all deliver one of the legs to new Babbage. Load only the cargo that goes to new Babbage. Deliver it then submit all the missions and repeat. You get less money but a lot of rep fast for this

I did member to experience in about hour and a half

Small haul missions btw

[ionic briar]

Does UEX have a discord server?

[zenith crag]

Thank you, i will try that!

[spare cloud]

Scroll down the uex page.

[flat bison]

did hull c loading get broken again, ive managed to do some wednesday but not yesterday or today

[timber stratus]

Hey guys, i'm at the Shallow Frontier Station refinery atm, got a bunch of gold and corundum, I saw the best place to sell the gold is new babbage, how do I get the gold there or will it just appear in the commodity shop?

[flat bison]

you gotta refine it at the refinery station, collect the order and haul it to nb

[next idol]

refining i think its the same everywhere but after refining it will end up in the hangar elevator (dont auto load, you might loose cargo) and then just move the boxes to the ship and go to new babbage

[timber stratus]

Ahh okay I checked my local storage terminal but not the FE

thanks guys 🙂

[next idol]

I was just starting the game, I will check it out

[flat bison]

yeah rn all im seeing is empty hull c

none of them are loaded so idk if its just bad timing or not

[hearty trail]

1st hull c mission this afternood did not load fully 🙁

and the 2nd only delivered 3scu out of 2979scu

[fierce harness]

can u store full mining bags in cargo hold?

Cause I was told you can but Gaslight eats them

[gritty quiver]

Hello. I salvaged and refined enough CM and RMC to fill a cat. I then unloaded it all at New Babbage hoping to sell. It’s telling me I can sell because inventory full? Does that mean I have to load it all back up and take elsewhere? SC tools tells me I can sell there..

[sharp swift]

wait 10-15 min for the stock to refresh

[gritty quiver]

Thanks. I’ll try that.

[warm pecan]

quick question.

if i refine ore and store it on a station. when the next version comes out do i loose it or is it moved to my spawn point?

[compact plank]

Never had any commodity persist into an update. Especially one as big as 4.4, I'd assume it's gonna get wiped.

[ocean perch]

I’ve got the exact same issue as above. I’ve waited 20 minutes — any other ideas?

🙁

[sharp swift]

Is there anyone else also selling?

[pearl juniper]

Cannot sell is different from no demand. Look at the category. Are you at tdd or admin?

[sharp swift]

Sometimes it's a rat race

[ocean perch]

nah no one else was at the terminals

[pearl juniper]

If it's under the "cannot sell" drop down it means that location never buys that material.

[ocean perch]

I'm in NB though

[pearl juniper]

Tdd or admin?

[ocean perch]

both aren't accepting it

[pearl juniper]

🤷‍♂️

Weird. But if it was a demand issue it should be showing under the "no demand" heading

[random patrol]

Thta has to be refined first. You cant sell the salvage directly.

You need the take the CMAT salvage to a refinery, then bring back the refined CMAT

[coarse ember]

gotta pay attention to them patch release notes

rmc is still the same tho you can just sell that direct

[random patrol]

You also take a percentage hit with the CMAT....its 15% (at least with the reclaimer)....so 300 CMAT salvage gets you 45 CMAT.

[pearl juniper]

Oh, right. I didn't even notice that. But yes. This is the problem

[random patrol]

The word "SALVAGE" stood out to me in the photo

[copper kiln]

Is there a guide how to gain Red Wind rep efficient?

[ocean perch]

fuck i didn't even know about the refiner stage

that never came up in any videos on YT

[random patrol]

Yeah its new this patch....PITA I know....sorry...

[warm pecan]

Thank you for taling the time to reply 🙂

[fickle kraken]

Was looking on webpages about selling stuff.
I have no idea why would I concider trading (buy and then go sell) over hauling.
No money loss.
400k in 30 minutes in come on raft.
Meanwhile best solar trade I see is around 350k
And planetary is 520k, but that is pyro, and you have to land on planet. This is time consuming way more than getting a place. Not to mention you have to fight off people.
But I have to

1. Buy the stuff from terminal
2. Sell stuff at the terminal.
   Meanwhile hauling is done the moment I send down an elevator.

Hull C is still broken.

Am I missing something?

[ionic topaz]

@fickle kraken nope, you're not missing anything, mission payouts arent balanced for risk yet

[storm storm]

Uh hull c is fixed lol

[hot sinew]

for red wing hauling in pyro, do I need to be allied with CFP for all the contracts to show? Are there locationos controlled by HH too?

[hot sinew]

Which hauling contracts do you get 400k in 30 mins?

[storm storm]

Just do planetary ones

A bunch at once

[limpid sluice]

Red Wind contracts offered will align with whatever faction you belong. If you have positive rep with both, it'll bug out, and you won't get any, at least it did for me a few patches ago.

[fickle kraken]

From orbital station, 7 rookie missions of small boxes to planet, and 1 bigger mission to planet. Called direct planetary. Around 45-50k per mission
Atlas load is 10 minutes, +- 2 minutes bugs.
Unload 8-9 minutes.
Then queues to hangar and fly time vary.

On return do 1 big mission from planet to orbital station.

Repeat.
Can be done on area18, arccorp, hurston.

[fickle kraken]

People with hull c and several youtube videos says opposite. Not only it loads small crates and then cannot load big over them and it brakes load.
It also just refuses to start it.
Your vehicle gets impounded randomly.

Thats what I have heard.
So, yes, I want to buy hull C. But I dont want it to be another useless junk that stands.

[compact plank]

Just wait till the freight elevator is introduced for the HULL C. You will want to consider a crew.

[ionic topaz]

@fickle kraken I've run several Hull-C missions today, they've worked fine, theres some bugs here and there and yes, occasionally you'll get a bugged load, but for the most part its working

[fickle kraken]

Cool, will grind for it then

[ionic topaz]

@fickle kraken what ship are you currently using for hauling?

[fickle kraken]

I would be fine to unload gigantic boxes by myself, as long as I dont have to go up and down waiting for queueueueueueueue

[fickle kraken]

Raft

[ionic topaz]

You gonna be on for a while? You can borrow my c2

[fickle kraken]

Thank you, but I need reputation for hull c missions anyway. It takes longer than to gind money for the ship.
I would need around 14 hours to get 11 mils with hauiling low rep missions back and forth.
But it takes a lot of time to do member missions for rep.

[ionic topaz]

Yea, thats why i said you could borrow my C2, itll fit 600ish scu's of cargo so you can take more missions at a time

[fickle kraken]

Member missions are spread like crazy, also have same comodity that I going to mismatch with destination cause they're not signed up.

[covert dome]

am i missing something

where's the hail button

[covert dome]

not seeing option to ask for cargo in friends

aha there we go

[covert dome]

where do hull c owners refuel? land and refuel or find pads? pads seem impossible to find

[coarse ember]

i think most of em refuel when they have no cargo so they can just call for a hangar

[vernal geode]

You “dock” at the same stations you dropoff and load at it is a different hail than the cargo you then can refuel just like normal then shut down get off and store just like a normal in the lobby

[jovial matrix]

If there isnt an open pad, you can dock at a docking collar, and once youve docked you have the option to refuel

[covert dome]

docking is a huge pain

haven't been able to successfully

[dim stirrup]

seems like the best way via hauling to move up from the RAFT to the big ships such as the C2 or hull c is to chain the rookie contracts on planets such as A18 - baijini point?

[pearl juniper]

The rookie contracts are decent money, but if you want to level up hauling rep you gotta do the contracts that match your current level. Otherwise you will be at it forever.

[jovial matrix]

indeed. Unless you're willing to trade commodities, theres not much of a point having a C2/hull C if you dont have any missions to do with them

[hot sinew]

are hauling contracts changing after accepting for anyone else??

delivery destination changes to something completely dfiferent

[storm storm]

Yeah that happens

[plain pewter]

what's this max inventory shit at orison. Been trying to sell rmc for days now. Havent sold a single scu

[ember sierra]

is Orison your home location?
I had issues with the home location, but could sell elsewhere

[plain pewter]

it's no my home location. can't sell there... loaded off everything in that hangar too

[tawny gull]

Trying to buy Atlasium in one 8 SCU crate. Terminal shows max inventory of 8, but it only allows you to buy up to 7 SCU. Any fix to this?

[unique ridge]

you're competing against everyone in the game to purchase it when it hits 8scu the only way to fix it is to get lucky and buy it before someone else beats you to it

put some good music on and enjoy the waiting at commodity terminal gameplay loop

[tawny gull]

Well that's cool.

[storm storm]

its always 1 scu behind

wait 1 more cycle

[tawny gull]

I’ve been hanging out while I watch MotoGP. Still no luck.

[drifting oxide]

Is there a difference between xp yield for Member Supply Grade Hauling and Small Grade Member hauling missions?

[vestal ravine]

What I do there as my home location to sell RMC is server jump and try to sell only it can take 3 to 5 log ins to sell off my crates. Always log in to a new region. Good luck!

[unique ridge]

not afaik member rank missions regardless of size give member rank rep

[plain pewter]

I gave up, after 7 server changes, still nothing. This game is starting to get on my nerves. Guess salvaging is not for me. Only pewpew works

[ionic topaz]

@plain pewter i havent had any issues selling RMC

[plain pewter]

at orison?

constantly max inv

[ionic topaz]

@plain pewter ive sold at orison, but usually just look at inventory at all the places with decent sell price

@plain pewter also, try to sell during off peak hours

[pearl juniper]

I thought supply / demand was global? Server hopping just makes it more likely you miss the refresh while logging in and running from hab to tdd.

[rose hearth]

I want to get into cargo hauling. But dunno what ship to get, I assume something with a tractor beam would be useful but I dunno what.

preferably mission hauling too. Not just normal cargo buys and sells

[ionic topaz]

@rose hearth get a raft or hull A

[rose hearth]

Guessing raft is better for bigger hauls but you can't take the smaller ones? Or did they make it so you can grab the smaller cargo boxes too?

Also, did they finally fix the HULL C? I melted it to get a vulture, f7a and have some cash leftover still from that melt lol- so can splooge a bit extra.

[ionic topaz]

@rose hearth you can take small with both raft and hull a, hull a is just cheaper, raft is better though, yes hull C works

have your ground covalex rep yet?

[rose hearth]

cool, cause last i remember using it was just non-working loads lol.

But nope. Only had vulture to do so. so I hadn't

[fickle kraken]

Get raft, get atls, enjoy hauling

[rose hearth]

(I know hull C only works once you grind rep dont worry)

[rose hearth]

Aight. shall do taht

[fickle kraken]

You can rent if you have no money

[rose hearth]

I really hope once railen comes its a decent hauler

[fickle kraken]

Cant wait for it

[ionic topaz]

ok, yea, get a raft and atls, run cov missions to grind the rep, then go from there

[drifting oxide]

Hi guys quickly: do you get extra Supplies when hauling? I have a mission where I need to haul 20 SCU but the elevator has like 40 SCU

[covert dome]

it's a bug

i get that a lot

[rose hearth]

is there a way to move the tractor beam on raft to the other side or not really?

[rose hearth]

any way to get those off? lol

[pearl juniper]

just keep pulling. They will come off, but sometimes are a pain

try different angles, different ranges, etc

[rose hearth]

gotta get a handheld one first then?

or can the attached beam try to get them off too?

(handheld seems to be the answer)

[hot sinew]

is there a game loop to salvage components that is not exec hanger/hathor/lazarus? I heard people are taking merc missions to yela belt and salvaging components somehow that way?

[modern osprey]

Scav around combat mission areas

[mild basalt]

I have been flying to various places, breaking into abandoned ships, flying them to an undisclosed location, looting the components and salvaging the chassis. Has been fun.

[modern osprey]

are you why there are so many discarded razors everywhere? lol

[mild basalt]

No lol I don't spawn any ships, I find them and then I make sure to destroy ships when I'm done with them so they despawn.

I view my loop as scavenging, salvaging and server maintenance.

[keen garden]

Is there a proper way of exchanging items between players so that they don't end up being considered stolen? for example, we had a mining night, and passeded the refined materials over to someone else for transport and it all ended up being stolen

[coarse ember]

shouldn't be as long as you're all in the same party otherwise yeah it does mark it as stolen

[rocky niche]

why cant i see the rock optimal and overcharge range? this is my first time mining

[coarse ember]

it's up in the top left

[hot sinew]

if i submit partially complete hauling contracts do I lose rep? or just gain less

[covert dome]

i think this hull c in my cube is making me not be able to transfer my cargo but he's not getting impounded somehow

[pearl juniper]

Be in a party with them when they try to sell. It should allow it then.

[pearl juniper]

That one does not need to be fractured, it's less than 10 scu

Also see the icon at the top with the arrow, that's telling you to switch modes.

[rocky niche]

ooh okay, thank you

[rocky niche]

thats the distance indicator though? it changes depending on how far i am from the rock

[coarse ember]

yeah that's the range it'd have to be to fracture/pick up the rock, the red/black is the distance at which it'd immediately overcharge it regardless of your power setting, right below that is the optimal distance where you wont have to set your laser power too high and below that is just where it'd start fracturing/picking it up

when you have a rock you need to fracture first on the right it'll show a charge indicator nd you wanna keep it in the green section, the red section is overcharge and if it stays there too long it'll blow up the rock into nothing

in your case tho like alex pointed out that particular one you had was already good to go and you just needed to extract/pick it up

if you're unsure youtube is always a helpful tool for guides and like you did here this channel is pretty helpful for asking questions as well for loadouts/ figuring out the UI

[next idol]

I think gain less but I’m sure you don’t loose but idk if it’s like, 0 delivered if you lose some

[covert dome]

anyone else not getting any cargo to haul when selecting a contract?

sitting at magnus and the 101k member isn't spawning cargo in my storage

[mild pumice]

Did it switch up the collection location? It does that sometimes

It's got an IC already as this has been happening with missions since resource drive (locations changing after you accepted the contract)

[covert dome]

nah the collection location was still listed as magnus and i selected another magnus contract and it didn't spawn

i think it's actually just magnus gateway, weirdly

[worthy night]

regarding a mining base. Can the prospector fit inside the C2? I keep seeing both yes and no online.

[random patrol]

No...but a golem can

[worthy night]

great thank you!

[random patrol]

🙂 np

[worthy night]

Would you recommend 2x Reigers or a Reiger & surge?

[random patrol]

I run 2 reigers. Its trial an error though so you might like using surge etc...I suggest trying both

[fierce harness]

If I have Unrefined Quantum on my ship I should get priority que on hangers

[pearl juniper]

Used to be you could unload from a pad. That was a really nice option when it existed

[fierce harness]

Also.most blew up last night cause hanger que

[random patrol]

Where you in pyro or stanton?

[fierce harness]

Checkmate

[random patrol]

Ah...that sux

[fierce harness]

It's not a big deal lol mainly joking but I could see blowing up cause u in hanger que could be tilting

[pearl juniper]

Yeah, the hangar queues really suck. Especially when you can see that there are 6 doors, but the system is making everyone wait on a single one.

[flat bison]

it can also fit inside the asgard!

[random patrol]

How many extra bags?

[flat bison]

4 if you try

[deep bison]

this wouldn't change anything at all. inventories are cross server.

they mentioned that in the isc live

[pearl juniper]

yeah, all he's doing is missing the refresh while he's logging in and running from the hab back to the TDD

[spare cloud]

Inventory is shared across all servers of a same region.

It's not cross region.

But TBF by the time you log out, log back in and walk back to the terminal, it would've updated in your region.

[deep bison]

So wouldn't the best thing to do just be go somewhere else that has it where it isn't the place everyone is hoping to sell/buy it?

[drifting oxide]

Can you take on multiple missions with the hull c? it seems to only load 1 at a time even though I have 3 accepted

[mild pumice]

You could before, but this has been an issue the last few patches

I don't even bother delivering the Hull C on a new patch anymore lol

[wintry bronze]

Is there a specific channel I post in if Im trying to find an item to buy from another player?

[obsidian crescent]

What is the most profitable cargo atm?

[subtle valley]

#market-street

[vestal ravine]

Last night I hauled 128 scu of Gold from Hahn on Magda and sold at Lorville. My profit was 121,755 Aeuc. But the buy cost was like 680K. Anyway that's one route you can look into.

[obsidian crescent]

I see. How often do inventories refresh at places?

[compact plank]

Lowest I've seen is around 20-30 minutes.

[vestal ravine]

I hardly see anyone at these HDMS mining stations more people are doing the mission hauling. I am also picking up Taranite and Bexalite around Hurston. The Gold has a stock of 200SCU. IM me if you want to team up.

[elder arrow]

thats funny

I love that ahahaha

[silent vapor]

I seem to be gaining rep realllly slowly now that i'm in Member rank. I've been doing 6-7 small stacked missions at a time (sometimes with a supply grade thrown in) but the needle seems to be moving super slow. Is there a more efficient way to rank up?

[mild pumice]

You need to do missions equal to your current rank to maximise reputation gain, so of you're doing jnr missions that's not going to move the bar much now compared to member rank missions.

Even so it's something like 30-40 missions to clear member and it scales as you go...

[deep bison]

Important to know that the price you are paying for things also gets worse if you are having to wait for them to restock. So you are probably losing like 25% or some shiz if you are waiting for a restock instead of just going somewhere with less folks.

[deep bison]

stanton terra maybe? or stanton pyro?

the jump point stations I mean

i can't remember if megumi has hull-c support or not? but uex says that can be an option too

[brittle trellis]

What cargo ship should I save up for? Currently I only got the hull a rented

[spare cloud]

Try renting the RAFT, see how you like it

[deep bison]

I'll 2nd the raft, it's one I really like using too.

[next idol]

Raft it’s good, very easy to load and unload, it works great with the ATLS

I think it has 190scu capacity?

If you wanna make money I recommend getting the hull C

But you need to lvl up the reputation first to get the hull contracts

Also the raft can be rented in lorville so you can try it or make money to buy one yourself

[deep loom]

hello im tryna figure out mining but i cant seem to find anything of value

[olive gull]

checked here already? https://regolith.rocks/survey/ores

[deep loom]

yeah i did

[olive gull]

then its just bad luck, try jumping to a different server

[deep loom]

okay is aberdeen still good for hadanite

[olive gull]

should, nothing has changed in mining, that we know of

[deep loom]

okay thank u

[royal spear]

That's mad.. how many bags can you fit beside it?

[covert dome]

time to find out if magnus is bugged again

[covert dome]

nice it works again

[cloud condor]

whats the best place to go ROC mining?
and is trading with the Hull C fixed?

[olive gull]

HUL C is still broken in the PTU, therefore its likely to be also broken on patch 4.4

[dusty nimbus]

How do I fix my hull c? It just gets stuck after a few seconds and makes a noise like its hailing over and over

[olive gull]

try here: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1lqmbk1/421_hull_c_bug_workarounds_and_money_guide/

[ionic topaz]

@olive gull ive been running hull C missions all day without major problems

[summer dune]

does anyone know a work around for the "unable to transfer" hull C bug?

[digital knot]

How to stack hauling missions efficiently

[ionic topaz]

@summer dune start by adjusting your position in the cube, if that dosnt work, fly away and come back.

[vestal ravine]

For ROC mining it's best overall in Pyro for Fenylmaline on Ignis, Pyro 4 and Fairo. Worst part is the gems only sell in Stanton. I loaded up a 1 scu crate 80% full to take to Stanton the crate glitched out and I lost 3 weeks of work. Total bummer. So in Stanton go to Aberdeen or Arial for Fenylmaline and sell at Lorville. If you see Hadanite grab that also.

[oblique sedge]

Also get out of your pilot chair

[fickle kraken]

@storm storm dudes above seems say otherwise

[storm storm]

Idk what ur referring to but yes hull c is fixed

[fickle kraken]

Fixed on being broken? Dude above say they cant worj with hull c

[ionic topaz]

@fickle kraken ive been running hull C missions all week, it has some bugs, but mostly it works, somepeople just dont have patience

[storm storm]

Its now as buggy as everything is again - mostly works but still some issues

[hearty trail]

i can not believe CIG,s Inability to FIX the Hull C loading/unloading game play, its been a issue for so long. but then again they just want to Sell Ships to us so Fixing bugs is bottom of their TO-DO list

i know it has driven 2 of my friend AWAY from the game

[fierce harness]

They will be back

[hearty trail]

and now I HAVE had enough, -1 more player from star citizen ,

[fickle kraken]

You know, you could manually load your ship and not bother

[jovial matrix]

not an option for the hull C currently lol

[storm storm]

it legit works twin

[coarse ember]

mmm tasty like 4 scu of quantanium thanks to using a sabir gadget and dealing with the stupid head bobbing in zero g

sabir gadget is actually pretty goated, that aseroid was impossible but slapping a sabir on it turned it to medium

[deep bison]

Nice mining haul, that's a good little chunk of change.

[pearl juniper]

5 scu. the refinery rounds up 🙂

[coarse ember]

oh nice

[cerulean delta]

I wish they would have unique color coded cargo crates. It should be just applying a different texture, right ?

Easy to spot them when using ship tractor beams. Also, why doesn't my 3 Mil ships have a beam that has the same functionality as an ATLS? I hope we can some day buy a better tractor beam for ships.

[compact plank]

KEEP IT UP BRO, ANY QUANT IS GOOD QUANT.

[digital knot]

How to stack hauling missions efficiently(junior rank rn)

[storm storm]

Pick missions with the same pickup/ drop off location or ATLEAST same dropoff location depending on the size of your ship

[digital knot]

I’ve been renting a raft but most of the missions I see have multiple pickup/drop off locations

Should I do supply or small grade

[storm storm]

Whatever the smallest ones are

[digital knot]

Okay, is raft best ship to be renting for this?

[storm storm]

Yeah

[olive gull]

there are 6 'small grade' missions paying 50k each and one paying 43k, they all share same origin and destination: Station to Planet's Airport
there is 1 'supply' mission paying 53k also from station to airport

• all this missions will almost full your RAFT and you will get almost 400k per trip
• Once at airport and ship unloaded, take 1 'supply' mission paying 73k (i think) to take 8scu boxes from Airport back to Station, they will fillup your RAFT
• So, in total you will be making around 450k+ per round trip in about 40 mins (depending on your loading speed and hangar queues)

both Crusader and ArcCorp have this missions, for now, we'll see what incoming patch brings

[turbid raven]

is the Hull C the only ship currently that can use the "cargo" contact on major stations?

[storm storm]

Hull A aswell i believe

[turbid raven]

im having issues with my first large cargo haul mission. I got a Hull A but i cant contact the "cargo" port only the regular landing one. and my container is too big for the lift any suggestions?

[storm storm]

You mean the big thousands of SCU missions?

Cuz those wont fit on hull A

Tho i do not have an idea if hull A can autoload

[turbid raven]

ah crap whats the minimum ship size i need? like a raft?

[storm storm]

The SCU you need to carry is specified in the mission description

[turbid raven]

well i know that but idk if im looking at it wrong but i could never tell the container size just the total SCU

[storm storm]

On some there is a container size on some there isnt i think

[turbid raven]

right ill just oversize my cargo ship then hahahaha

[storm storm]

lol

[main trench]

I've tried a bunch of times to access the cargo contact in a Hull A, and was unable to. I've given up using it for cargo missions for now, and have started on salvage and mining. I'd love to hear if it's actually working and/or if I just borked up how it works.

[spice shell]

So I've spend the day salvaging. I grabbed a ton of RMC and CMATR using the Fortune. For how much time I've put into that game loop, the ROI is terrible.

Cargo hauling is way, way more profitable.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't understand the changes to this loop.

[next idol]

its because supposedly theya re preparing it all for the upcoming crafting so the materials wea re getting will be very important for othe stuff

the problem is that they changed the salvage loop way before we get crafting so

rn salvaging its totally useless to get money

[spice shell]

I wanted to give it a try just to see and test for myself, but I should have just accepted the community feedback. It's bad. And that's really sad, because I actually enjoy the chill loop.

[next idol]

also some people say the amount you get after refining its bugged but idk if its true

you are getting around 17% of the total construction material after refinig

at least with the reclaimer

[spice shell]

I'm about to find out. Right now there's a bug where a ship will instance in an area, and if you go out with a duo partner, you can just RMC it over and over by having one person QT to unload their ship. When they come back, it's fully repaired for that person again.

[spice shell]

Fortune CMATR is 20 SCU refined to 6 with the high yield process.

[next idol]

yeah I read thaty is supposed to be the otheer way around, reclaimer shouldhave 30% and the others around 17%

is still poop if you just sell it to the stations tho

[spice shell]

Raw CMATR is worth virtually nothing, so you're honestly forced to go refine it. It's like 215 credits per SCU.

[timber stratus]

Hey guys, can the mineral storage pods on the MOLE be swapped out on the fly for empty ones or is that functionality not in the game yet. Like if I have a cargo ship with empty pods ready for hot swap in the middle of space

[vestal ravine]

On the Reclaimer I have been taking the legal salvage missions and getting the bigger ships like the HH and a Herc. Between the 2 only collected RMC 50 scu total easy to unload down the rear chute. Made 212 K profit. (had to leave early probably 10 more SCU there.)

[vestal ravine]

As far as I know yes. You might want to practice first in your hanger. Unlock ports via right ALT then K??\

[red granite]

yarp

[main trench]

I definitely love the vibe of salvaging in my vulture. The 250k per full ship is just a bonus on top, not really a goal for making money.

[main trench]

50 scu? I think I get like 250 off of about 33. You're selling at Terra Hydro Farms?

actually wait how do i make that much, the math isn't mathing.

[timber stratus]

Thank you both 🙂

[vestal ravine]

Sure Terra Mills Hydro has the top selling price but it's to dangerous flying down there compared to Orison. At Orison I can just log off much easier when done at Terra I would have to fly back to Crusader. Thanks for the info.

[main trench]

it's always cluttered with empty ships but i don't think i've ever actually seen any players actively there

[vestal ravine]

I'll take a Vulture load down there and see how it goes. It's a neat location.

[main trench]

the elevator closer to the habs has grid snapping. the other one doesn't. i prefer to throw them in with my pyro ryt tractor, so i don't use the grid elevator

[vestal ravine]

Worked out great but it's only a small margin better than Orison. 5.7 versus 5.4....

[elder arrow]

Anyone know if the reclaimer works for reinfery orders now?

where you can leave the cargo on grid or does it need to be emptied still

[main trench]

so i decided to go ahead and try a Hull C. i don't think lagrange stations have working cargo dropoff so i'm gonna expedite my Hull A to ship cargo from the Hull C to the freight elevator

10/10 gamink experience

[storm storm]

Only major stations have cargo boxes

[tawdry light]

What ship comes close to a blockade runner in SC?

[orchid void]

I've heard you need to refine RMCs or CMs now? Can someone explain this to me? I'm used to just take my reclaimer out scrape or munch and then print the SCU boxes in my hold ready to sell them

anything changed??

[glass dust]

RMC is same just pays less. Around 5k per SCU.

CM you need to get the boxes to the refinery and refine the material. There is 85% loss on that process
Pays around 8k per SCU (after refining)

[orchid void]

Do I need to unload the boxes of CM from the reclaimer before refining or does it work just like refining ores?

[glass dust]

Sadly you need to move them out

Good news is back door opens more
Bad news does not help much in Stanton as you need cargo ship to move them around

In pyro space-stations have XL hangar and refinery

Eddit: + claimer can dock now with stations

[orchid void]

Alright so in Stanton I could fill my reclaimer with CMs, dock at a refinery, autounload (???), refine, load the refined CM in a ship and go sell them at a TDD?

[glass dust]

No

In Stanton you need to move CM in to ,,smaller,, cargo ship (anything that can land at space stations)

So fill claimer with CM
Fly to city unload and spawn cargo ship load up and go to refinery unload and go to refine, load up cargo ship and go to the city to sell

Optionally:
Wikelo has big hangar too, but you need to claim cargo ship there

Or move cargo in space with buddy

[deep bison]

ty blessed mods.

[random patrol]

Here is how I do it: fill up the reclaimer, goto new babbage and unload the cmat salvage, then take the cmat salvage in a c2 to a refinery. When its done l...bring the refined cmat back to new babbage and sell it.

[orchid void]

yeah that's probably what I'll do

if I can even join the game though

[ionic topaz]

I fill my reclaimer up, fly it to orbituary, unload- >refine-> sell, no fuckin around with moving

[vestal ravine]

Per Reclaimer . I have been skipping the CM part altogether. Makes everything much easier until base building is in the game.

[dreamy prairie]

If you need to drop at Aaron's Halo consistently, have this distance marker
Highest density 20.30 GM according to @toxic ingot

[toxic ingot]

This is where I learned from, it's apparently 20.32GM: https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36-refinery-to-aaron-halo-mining-routes

[next idol]

ok so which station can hold the reclaimer in stanton to refine?

I was using one in pyro

[pearl juniper]

none of them, as far as I know

[next idol]

damn

[covert dome]

uhhh I’m seeing some dooming about hull c contracts with the hauling updates

[main trench]

there's an SC Haulers video that goes into detail on some of the changes. i am hoping the numbers get fixed by the time it hits live - it's incredible how weird some of these changes are.

[hot sinew]

nerfed??

no more money printing?

[main trench]

i don't know what the numbers currently are - still stuck at junior. the sc haulers video will have more info on the current state of it in the PTU.

[heavy thunder]

So I have some hauling missions accepted at Everus, to ship from Everus to Teasa, but there's no cargo to move. I check in the freight manager, I've sent the elevator down & up multiple times. I've stored my ship & went back out to the lobby. There's no freight to transport. Anybody have a workaround?

[modern osprey]

double check the contract hasn't changed the pick-up location, that happens

[heavy thunder]

I had accepted like 5 contracts that all went from Everus to Teasa, none of the cargo appeared. I finally closed out the game then logged back in. Accepted 1 big contract & the containers were there. Accepted another, no containers. Delivered the one that showed up. Was able to grab 2 contracts going back to Everus and that worked. Thanks tho. I did notice one of the contracts I had accepted "changed"... but tbh, i'm just going with the assumption I did something wrong there unless it happens again.

[main trench]

yeah, i'm also having issues w/ cargo not showing up.

i've had two missions in a row that haven't shown up.

[main trench]

oh you're kidding me. i tried logging to get rid of the other two, didn't work. i finally get missions that worked, and i... fall through the cargo elevator.

emergency log, come back in, mission's gone.

[rose goblet]

Found a massive 240scu 50% quant rock and my golem has NO CHANCE 🙁

next door, 60scu 40% quant rock, still no chance lol 🙁

[covert dome]

Lovely - the current prices are around 600k a pop for the gateway to gateway runs or the gateway to everus runs

[somber barn]

Looking for the best trade routes you guys like? Hull C

[finite lion]

How do I unstuck this cargo box?

[spare cloud]

If you can't pull it to the left/towards you, then you remove the last box of that row first, then 2nd last....

[finite lion]

Sadly the whole row is stuck

4 cargo boxes

[spare cloud]

Try using pyro multi tool. Has more power at close range with small boxes.

[finite lion]

Still not working, can I self destruct ship and than use the boxes ?

Well one box survived

[olive gull]

did you had the Engines ON?

[vague crystal]

I have issues selling my Construction Material Salvage where can I sell this, ngl kinda losing it cause ive already hauled it around just to find out i cant sell it

[cerulean delta]

Is it worth grabbing C grade components from Abandoned ships or should I focus on just the B and A grade components ?

[deep bison]

Leon you need to refine it, then you can sell it

[vague crystal]

huh like raw ores?

[spare cloud]

Yes

[vague crystal]

thanks didnt know that but rmc can be sold directly right?

[jovial matrix]

yes

[vague crystal]

alright but its harder/slower to get

okay makes sense thanks guys

[spare cloud]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/Patch-Notes/20852-Star-Citizen-Alpha-432

[elder arrow]

For anyone doing refinery for Cmats with salvage ships etc

i highly recommend the pyrometric refining option

Its the fastest option of the other "High yields" Dynix & farron both take an extra 8-15 hrs with costs and does not increase yield at all, they are the same yield rate as the pyrometric

[limpid sluice]

If time isn't an issue, why not Dynix? Keep costs down

[elder arrow]

Dynix / Farron / Pyrometric (All the same yield rate / cost roughly)
but pyrometric is the fastest out of the other two, by several hours.

[limpid sluice]

I just threw a load of cmats in the other day. Pretty sure Dynix was notably cheaper, but I'd have to look again

[elder arrow]

So with a load of 534 Cmats into a pyro refinery on the Dynix option

that is 4k Credits for 85hrs.

On farron 8k credits, 28hrs

On pyrometric 24k for 14h

[limpid sluice]

1/6th the cost

[elder arrow]

So yes Dynix is the cheapest for 80hrs

so a 3 day wait order vs half a day with Pyrometric

Its why i recommend either Pyrometric or farron if you want a 1day refine time for 8k vs the 24k order

[limpid sluice]

Goes back to my original statement, if time isn't an issue, why not keep costs down? Lol

[elder arrow]

you can do that yeah, my whole point i was making is IF people dont want to wait 2-3+ days for a order

[somber stone]

hello community! Is prospector mining an ok-ish money making activity for now? I really dig salvaging, but i'm reading everywhere that profits went down significantly, and currently managed to grind enough for prospector or vulture.

[unique ridge]

yes it's ok-ish money

it seems like with the recent changes vulture and prospector are probably around the same earning potential now

if you get lucky you can make more in a prospector now i think

[somber stone]

I used to mine a bit in Aaron halo, and it was... underwhelming, i think, 30% of my Vulture profits - even though I was scraping "legal" large contracts.

was really difficult to find even medium-cost ores

[small nebula]

are the 6 contracts bajini->area 18 the best money/time with a 64scu ship and junior rank?

[red granite]

Every LO -> City pair has those missions right? I did them in Crusader and Hurston a bit ago. Org mate does the New Babbage route. What's special about ArcCorp?

[elder arrow]

Question for people who like salvage and use the reclaimer,

What are things you would change / add / rework on it if you could?

[main trench]

box management - having a dedicated player just to move boxes gets annoying, and unloading is super annoying

[elder arrow]

Honestly I was thinking the same, having like the fortune auto unload to store salvage would be amazing in the reclaimer

[main trench]

i don't even need auto unload as much as i want it to be a better layout and easier to get it off of the ship

[elder arrow]

Yeah

[elder arrow]

Any other changes or edits?

[main trench]

It's been a while since I've been in one so I can't actually recall all my annoyances with it but I know that was my biggest.

[elder arrow]

Fair enough

I'm currently just writing down all the stuff about it, and going to make the changes / edit myself as a fan art thing

[elder arrow]

Thoughts on if nyx will be a great home location for salvage / mining / cargo gameplay loops?

I'm in pyro for mining / salvage rn and it's been great, with some limitations being rep for salvage being by HH

[jovial matrix]

who knows, we'll find out when 4.4 drops

[elder arrow]

Yeahhhh. I just don't wanna get stuck in a system location that'll turn out ass and give me hell and I gotta wait till the next patch to change home locations

I'm currently trying to figure out if I should stay in pyro for my industrial loops,

Or go back to Stanton for that

[pearl juniper]

Hopefully it won't be the case, but there were a few times last winter where I was glad my home was set in Stanton, even though I was playing in Pyro. The elevators in Pyro were so broken, sometimes the only way to to ANYTHING was to take the Backspace Express back to home and play there instead. Bottom line, it's not a bad idea to have your home somewhere other than where you plan to play just so you can set your spawn point to some other system to get there in a pinch.

[elder arrow]

I haven't had any issues at all in pyro tbh it's been a lot better and more enjoyable then Stanton across everything

The only issues are the broken contracts from HH missions but other than that it's been lovely

[pearl juniper]

Yeah, this was 8-10 months ago. I'm just saying having an option to set your spawn to another system gives you OPTIONS. If you are playing at your home location, you don't have any options.

[elder arrow]

I'm just thinking of going back to Stanton for salvage because my rank there is pretty high and I can get hammheads and other large ships back to back

It's just a bitch currently because unload cmats load up into new ship, unload again for refinery, etc

[pearl juniper]

it's not that hard to go play somewhere other than your home

[elder arrow]

Oh definitely not no

Pyro:
Bounty hunter / HH contracts (salvage>return to station>unload>refine> and either sell at the same location as the refinery or load it up and sell else where)

Stanton:
(Confirmed salvage contracts for hammerheads and other ships etc
Salvage>grimhex>unload>cargo ship load up>refinery>unload>refine>load up>travel to sell location>)

So yeah on one hand, quick and easy refineries in pyro on the other, better salvage and contracts

Fun times

[pearl juniper]

Yeah, I get all that. But just because your home is in stanton doesn't mean you can't go do salvage in Pyro

[elder arrow]

Yeah I know

I just wanna have my home location where I'm doing most of my game play loops to keep all my inventory in one location mostly

I can definitely hop between locations and do that, I know

[red granite]

Test it with a freefly account first before logging into the main

[elder arrow]

Could do that

[elder arrow]

Also do you know if nyx uses its own reputation for salvage or is it linked to Stanton rep?

[red granite]

Probably linked to the HH rep, no clue though

[elder arrow]

If nyx has HH rep missions imma be both happy, and mad enough to do a bombing at the main hub with an A1

[red granite]

lol, maybe it has both? I know it has the HH merc missions, so I'm assuming it'll have HH salvage missions. Haven't looked for the generic stanton style salvage missions there

[elder arrow]

Oh how lovely

When are we getting the nyx update, next week or what?

[red granite]

probably tuesday, definitely by thursday 4pm UTC

[elder arrow]

This Tuesday?

18th - 19th basically

Fun times!

[vague crystal]

I just noticed you get so little cm when refining like whats that from 224 scu only 34 zamn

Im wondering is there anything industrial which gives more profit cause i got a little crew and ngl we are looking for ways to make money

like salvaging is fun but it doesnt seem as profitable as it once was

[storm storm]

Mining

[vague crystal]

oh okay but i happen to only find not so good rocks

[storm storm]

You need to be at the right locations

[vague crystal]

what do you recommend

[spare cloud]

!regolith

[jolly dagger]

Regolith

Use the website to search for ore location, optimal mining loadouts and the best trade locations

[red granite]

If you want money sell wikelo items to players. There's been an injection of aUEC into the market and buyers have 10s of billions to spend. You can then do the game loops you enjoy for fun rather than worrying about aUEC

[vague crystal]

yeah i mean we got money but we are looking in the future but yeah i will take a look into that

cause we could use money to give our other members

wikelo items, like the ones used for the polaris quest line

[red granite]

The game changes so fast so often that the future is not something to spend much time thinking about with this game. My suggestion is to take advantage of the aUEC boom now while you can.
CM and it's refining %s and values are changing with nearly every patch and will continue to be adjusted. Mining is pretty consistent but it and cargo has enough bugs and exploits to make you a billionaire quickly.
Until the game is in a stable state where these issues are addressed properly it will be silly to take any of the game loops seriously in my opinion.

[vague crystal]

yeah cargo is also a go to of mine but i only do it solo cause it something to lay back lol

I just hope they find a balance soon with the reclaimer slavaging cause its a very expensive capital salvaging ship but it doesnt profit like one tbh

[red granite]

I've been getting back into mining lately and enjoying it. Haven't paid much attention to aUEC but I think it made 2.5-3m in 3 MOLE loads not being picky about what I mined

[vague crystal]

okay thats very decent

[red granite]

I think it's balanced quite well for the time and risk of salvaging. Otherwise we would need to adjust every other loop like bounty and mercenary work. Those are much more involved and have much more risk but pay about the same aUEC per hour right now

[vague crystal]

yeah thats also true

[red granite]

My hope is that once crafting and basebuilding are in, the Salvage and Mining loops will be about the resources and we as players won't sell them to the shops, we'll use them

Technically you can sell stone, wood, and metal to the shop in RUST for example but nobody does that because those materials are needed for the base, crafting, and upkeep. Hopefully that comes to SC soon

[vague crystal]

yeah

my next goal is to achieve experienced rank in covalex so i can do the hull c contracts even tho they are kinda bugged sometimes

[red granite]

I wonder when/if they will add commodities to the LTP database. Hopefully they do that by the time crafting and basebuilding are in

Is the auto-loading of the Hull-C for the hauling contracts a permanent thing? I see they are bringing in external cargo elevators at the stations soon

Seems like the Hull-C might have to be manually loaded for the hauling contracts soon

[vague crystal]

well if we have manually loading and unloading the hull c that will be a giant pain to do so. I hope we get then some better tools to ofload the thousands of scus quicker

[red granite]

The tractor beams on the Hull-C are good. I haven't tried using an MPUV-Tractor or 315p to do it yet but those might be helpful too

[spare cloud]

Are they working tho ?

Haven't tried in 4.3.2, but before that they had not been working for quite a while already. Unable to enter remote turrets from the dedicated seat.

[red granite]

I should check again, last tested I probably used my enter turret keybind. I don't bother using the dedicated buttons on the panels

[spare cloud]

Both have been non working.

Hull-C tractor beams are entirely unusable, unless 4.3.2 changed that, which I haven't heard about.

[ionic topaz]

Fyi: autoloading hull c still exists in 4.4

[cloud condor]

But is it bugg free

What is the refresh rate for the inventory on the commodity terminals?

[vestal ravine]

There are still huge Quantanium rocks out there that can bring a great payday for Mole Miners.

[olive gull]

10-15 mins

[mossy glacier]

anyone want to buy the location of this?

[spare cloud]

Would've expected so for commodity trading, but what about contracts ?

[red granite]

This is the important question. Very few are willing to risk the aUEC investment for commodity trading.

Until the Hull-C loading bugs are less common at least

[elder arrow]

Is mining and cargo that good to earn millions of credits or what?

[red granite]

They are both relatively easy, chill, low-risk loops that can easily net 1m aUEC/hr yeah. Even on a theoretical full wipe patch day with 0 rep.
Only gets better for hauling with the Hull-C as long as auto-loading is still a thing (and working properly)

[elder arrow]

Hull c is completely busted still I believe

And I think auto loading hard locks the ship to being permanently broken?

Dunno on that one but it's what I heard

[red granite]

^This ignores exploits and glitches. Infinite refine/infinite sell/infinite create SCU boxes out of nothing/etc.

[elder arrow]

I thought the infinite sell and stuff was patched out?

[red granite]

It's hit or miss, and very often miss these days. Pros that know how to work around and avoid bugs are able to consistently ~3m aUEC/hr with it

[red granite]

[elder arrow]

Because I tried it myself the other day and no matter what I did, nothing seemed to glitched out

Which is fine by me, since it's more fun grabbing more cargo to haul and sell etc

[red granite]

That's good to hear it's less common now

[elder arrow]

Yeah, I don't know if the other glitches are working, but I tested the ones I knew about and they seem to not work? Which is good

[elder arrow]

So yeah how is mining currently and if it is better in pyro or Stanton?

[covert dome]

i watched someone autoload on a hull-c in 4.4 so it still exists, but from what i'm seeing from reports is that the 690K run is gone

[elder arrow]

I believe they nerfed the 690k run because it was too much easy money

[red granite]

did they auto-load commodities or a hauling contract?

[covert dome]

hauling contracts

[elder arrow]

How much hell is it for solo mole mining

[agile oyster]

Not too bad it’s a bit annoying running around the ship but it’s worth it
You can make about a million uec a load with the mole solo

[elder arrow]

I might try that tbh

Currently I got a reclaimer filled with all sorts of useful stuff rn,
A roc, uses medical, an atls, and mining atls, a mule, fury, and two hover bikes

So I'm thinking of doing ground mining and salvage but dunno if that'll be like the most profitable but seems really fuckin fun

[agile oyster]

But finding a giant quantaium rock that you can just break solo and getting it back to the refinery before you ship blows up is a fun challenge

[elder arrow]

Oh right quant is explosive

[agile oyster]

Yeah once it’s in your ship you have 25 minute to get to the refinery before it detonates

[elder arrow]

Should be doable

What about ground mining in a roc and stuff?

[red granite]

why is everyone so obsessed with profit and aUEC/hr? Genuinely asking. Assume you have 1 trillion aUEC what do you do with it? What do you do when you have nothing to buy?

[elder arrow]

Someone mentioned there's a mineral that's really good to sell

[elder arrow]

I really like being the industrial player and backbone for my friend group, so I like to be able to get a lot of credits to buy gear, weapons, ships, to supply others with or kidnap them with me on my ventures and get them paid well

[red granite]

that costs fuckin' nothing

you don't need millions to do that

[elder arrow]

Im aware that costs nothing,

But one friend wants to get say a guardian well that's 8mill, so could work together to get that for him and do bounties and other stuff

But i like to figure out what's stuff I could do in the industrial side of things

[red granite]

I might be confused and forget what it's like to be a new player but it is so damn easy to make money in the game nowadays with how crazy high the payouts are

[elder arrow]

Unless I'm doing something insanely wrong,
it takes a while to get a few million like 4-5

I know in a reclaimer I can get a lot of cmats and refine that and sell it for 900k at least but takes some time

[elder arrow]

What high payouts are you referring to?

[red granite]

I see to often players quit a week after a rando in global sends them 50m. "there's nothing to do"

[elder arrow]

I keep seeing that, and im like huh neat

I play to enjoy the game and have fun with the stuff I do

[red granite]

Game is boring, I got all the ships I wanted, now what? meanwhile they didn't learn any skills because they either were gifted, cheesed, or only did 1 meta game loop and never had any fun

[elder arrow]

Ikr?

I've been doing every game loop, gameplay, mission everything, and figuring out ways to mix and match stuff

And its reallllly fun trying to push a ship to it's limits

[red granite]

This is the crux of my crashout right now. Enjoy your time ALL THE TIME, don't grind and suffer and assume you will have fun later. It is still the same boring dogshit game once you have the ultimate ship. If you can't learn to make it fun and enjoy it a new ship isn't going to change that

[elder arrow]

Like the reclaimer holding a roc, mule, atls, medivac, etc

Mhm

New ships don't add much, they just give you a different approach or option

Again I'm not grinding to get the new fancy toy, I just wanna try out the other ships and see if there's anything I specifically really like

And let's me help my friends pick ships they wanna test fly something I own I'll let them and make it a goal and experience for them to get it

[red granite]

the worst thing someone can do in my opinion is give a new player aUEC. The skills learned and the gameplay of fucking up and spending all your money on armor and ammo and then dying in a bunker was great. T0 ruined that but we can still be poor in the game and learn how to claw out of that. Receiving too much aUEC essentially ruins the game

[elder arrow]

Like by doing mining, salvage, cargo, bunkers, all sorts of stuff and let them slowly earn it and really appreciate getting it

[elder arrow]

Mhm I avoid that with my friends, I get them to experience the game and enjoy it

[elder arrow]

So yeah I understand your points and opinions etc and I agree to them as well

[agile oyster]

I have learned the hard way be rich is the that great in this game

[elder arrow]

What do you do to get rich?

[agile oyster]

Trading with other players

[red granite]

it is nice to test out all the ships and see what you like I guess, as long as you're enjoying the game.

[elder arrow]

Very much so

Happy reclaimer noises

[agile oyster]

I’m done making uec I’m going to buy a lot of ships and start enjoying the game and have fun in nyx

[elder arrow]

That seems to be the one option everyone Is using currently

What do you typically sell?

[agile oyster]

I started with guns from CZ and armor then I sold cargo for the resource drive then recently started selling wikelo ships

And ship components

[elder arrow]

I do really wanna try and work towards getting the wikelo Polaris NGL

[agile oyster]

Buying rare armor at a low price from players then selling high is a great way to make uec

I made a 100mil in 30 minutes flipping the new wikelo armor last week

[elder arrow]

Damn

[graceful maple]

Hey people. Would it be worth more renting a Raft for higher stackability in Hauling Contracts, or sticking with my Taurus so I don't have to factor in rental cost for profit.

[alpine fractal]

Question for you keeping up with salvaging and engineering, are the SRT tools gonna be able to get ships outta soft death at any point? Or are soft-> alive ships not in the works rn

[agile oyster]

The raft is a lot faster to load
the raft take 5 minutes to load with the Atls

[graceful maple]

I think that's a question for Tech Preview people, but I'm pretty sure that at the Engineering Citcon (?) they mentioned that they want that to be a possibility/gameloop

like emergency repairs so you can limp back to a station/base for actual repairs

[graceful maple]

Fair enough then!
And they've updated the hand tool speeds this patch yeah?

or was that 4.4

[agile oyster]

Just put the Atls in the docking port on the raft

It takes 20 minutes to fully load and unload the raft with the ATLS including the landing and takeoff

[alpine fractal]

YIPEE! And also that makes a lotta sense, sorry i'm a silly little guy! Thank you!

[small nebula]

anyone having trouble with cargo not showing up in the warehouse after accepting a contract?

[mild pumice]

It's been reported a lot yeah, seems like mission servers shitting the bed

Other locations might work or you can try switching regions

[elder arrow]

So question,

is the golem as good as a prospector because i know i can fit one of those inside a M2, and i wanna use that to just store bags of ore and refill them instead of flying back and forth a ton

OOOOR should i just stick to a prospector with the argo pods on it? because i dont know any ships besides a polaris/idris that a prospector will fit on, but just flying back and forth a ton

[unique ridge]

in that scenario yes the golem is perfect. you just wont' be able to do quant easily

[elder arrow]

well there was another ore i was thinking of getting instead of quant,

Lemme find this website real quick

[unique ridge]

yeah then it's perfect for what you're doing

i was just letting you know if you find a quant rock it's gonna kinda suck to try and get it out of there with just a golem or to try and quickly load it back into a carrier and then offload before quant timer expires

[elder arrow]

yeah

there was this rare ore in pyro im trying to remember the name of it

[unique ridge]

there are a bunch of them

riccite, stileron, lindium, and whatever the other new one is

they're all high value ores

[elder arrow]

Would a golem be able to mine those easily?

[unique ridge]

they're just more rare than quant it seems like but those new ores i found pretty easy in nyx

yeah it should be fine if you know what you're doing i mean it's not gonna be breaking any mole sized rocks

[elder arrow]

Yeah

I mean when the Ironclad is out i can 100% use a Prospector to store it inside that

Okay heres a good quesiton, couldnt i use those like hand held mining gadgets to make my job easier and stuff? or do they not do much at all?

[unique ridge]

yeah that would be a great scenario if it fits in there

hand held mining tools only work on rocks in caves

[elder arrow]

really?

[unique ridge]

yeah

[elder arrow]

The big like "bomb" thingies?

where in all CIG vids show them being used outdoors on asteroids and ground rocks?

[unique ridge]

not sure what you mean

[elder arrow]

that thing, that hes holding in the golem trailer

[unique ridge]

ah that's a mining gadget

you put that on the rocks before you break them to make them easier to break

[elder arrow]

would you say they are very useful?

[unique ridge]

uhhh fuck yes

if you want to break the biggest rocks you HAVE to use them and active modules on the head

if you're not using active modules and gadgets you're gonna have to leave a lot of rocks behind

[elder arrow]

Gotcha so 100% bring mining gadgets then

[unique ridge]

yes 100%

[elder arrow]

and the golem mining head is a bespoke thing so neat

[unique ridge]

i bring boremax and sabir

yeah head is bespoke

[elder arrow]

Okay so 100% ignoring quant rocks, Do you think getting a few hundred SCU of other ores and large rocks in a golem is doable?

if i use mining gadgets and modules on the thing

[unique ridge]

oh yeah definitely

[elder arrow]

even from big rocks?

[unique ridge]

yeah you'd be surprised how big of a rock you can crack with that thing once you learn what you're doing

[elder arrow]

Cowabunga it is then

RN im mostly just figuring out what i can do with other ships and make stuff i do now 100% more fun and push stuff to the limit

like the reclaimer holding a roc, atls's a medic urasa, fury's and a mule

[unique ridge]

yeah i took the golem out in my M2 and loaded ore pods in there too it worked pretty good

but the problem i had was that i didn't realize i didn't actually want to stay out that long lol

kinda realized just a prospector or mole made for enough time out for me

loading up a golem and ore pods is an event and then mining all day sounds great until you're actually doing it lol

[elder arrow]

True

BUT i mean hey i can get as much as i want + more in a M2 and when im done i can jsut head back

also do you know anything about ground mining in a roc and if that gives anything good or jsut ignore it?

[unique ridge]

if you get lucky you can make about 700k/hr in the roc/geo

geo is busted right now so it's a little slower

[elder arrow]

Thats not too bad

[unique ridge]

but when geo is working you can really crank some gems out and if you have a 2nd person you can really fly

[elder arrow]

How is it busted?

[unique ridge]

no i think it's the best way to make money early game

[unique ridge]

the laser power on the rock isn't showing up and you can't ping in it right now

[elder arrow]

Aaaahhh

[unique ridge]

pinging does nothing

[elder arrow]

So its very hard to find gems then

[unique ridge]

no, not if you look in the right places

aberdeen, ignis and pyroIV

this is just my personal experience, but for me i have the best luck on pyroIV

but ignis is supposed to have better rates

[elder arrow]

hmmm alrighty

[elder arrow]

ALSO golem planet mining or asteroid?

because im in pyro rn as my home system and its been very fun here

[unique ridge]

always planet, well at least for now nyx seems to be like maybe asteroid mining might be good

if you're already in pyro that's perfect

it's where all the best mining is

[elder arrow]

Yeah i set my home station to orbitury here for salvage, mining, cargo, and bounty hunting

since it seems perfect for all of that

[tidal shore]

I am kinda at a loss here

I found some deposits but they are all marked as impossible

what to do?

[red granite]

This is an ore rock, only for ship mining. You are in a ROC vehicle, you need to find Gems to mine.
!regolith

[jolly dagger]

Regolith

Use the website to search for ore location, optimal mining loadouts and the best trade locations

[tidal shore]

can I find them by scanning from my ship as well?

[modern osprey]

yes

[red granite]

You can save time by paying attention to how far out they come up on a ping (TAB key) scan and by what they are labeled as

[tidal shore]

havent figured out how scanning works yet either

nvm it was a binding error

yey!

[red granite]

that's the stuff!

[tidal shore]

now how do i get it out of my Roc so I can sell it properly?

[modern osprey]

Right Alt K to unlock ports, then open the cargo doir and tractor beam it out

or if you dont have much just ooen the ore box inventory and move it to your inventory

[tidal shore]

you.. you tractor beam what out?

[modern osprey]

might be best to YouTube some videos on it

[plain pewter]

Looking for hadanite, can you mine this stuff in these acidic caves?

[mild pumice]

Yeah it's in caves and also you can often find it in the white loot boxes at the derelict settlements and outposts

[keen garden]

the bag, what you do is send the bag down the elevator, then drag it back to the left side, double click it to open it, then drag the gems back to the right side so they stay in the inventory and your bag goes back up the elevattor

to get a the bag off the roc, you have to unlock ship ports, then you have to click the deploy button below the bag on the back of the roc

[elder arrow]

When selling stuff at a planet, do i need to unload all the SCU into the local inventory or can it stay on my ship and works?

[keen garden]

my understanding is if you try to sell from ship, it'll ask you to unload it after you "sell" it

which sometimes just eats your money and materials

but i haven't actually tried on surface locations that way, only at space stations

[elder arrow]

Ahhh im debating if i should sell this RMC at this one location to earn the most from it, or at the station where its like 5th best price kinda

[keen garden]

that depends on how much it is, those best prce locations rarely accept more than 50-100 scu, depending on how busy people are at selling there

[elder arrow]

Ahh true

[keen garden]

i usually don't bother with the headache, just sell it where i can quickly for a reasonable price and go get more etc

[elder arrow]

Guess so yeah

btw do you know if actual drugs still spawn in the game or where they removed?

Thought about doing illegal cargo like e'tam, slam, maze

[keen garden]

you can find atruatoxin on bounties,

and on the higher tier zero bits missions in pyro

[elder arrow]

Zero bits?

[keen garden]

it's a faction, related to headhunters, they send you to asteroid bases to get loot off of a ship in a hangar

usually about 40 scu

mix of medical supplies, gold, and if you're lucky drugs

[elder arrow]

what are they under?

merc?

[keen garden]

merc, easy pickings

i was making anywhere between 200k-600k per mission, depending on what is in the boxes

[elder arrow]

Huh do they have a rep value i could look at?

[keen garden]

def better return than salvage fees atm

[elder arrow]

Stealing cargo from ships is a better turn yeahhjhhh

[keen garden]

they are based on headhunter rep i believe

[elder arrow]

But i do really enjoy salvage for Cmats rn

[keen garden]

but they won't give you HH rep

[elder arrow]

AH how fun

im still trying to level up HH rep its just been hell of a grind

third station in a row where it wont remove

WELP TIME TO fucking unload this by hand

[red granite]

Like you should you lazy space-bum!

[elder arrow]

I WANNA pay others to do it for me

this shit took 30 minutes to load!!

[red granite]

which ship is it? I've been trying to recreate this bug but my commodities sell from ship no problem?

[elder arrow]

im in a M2

[red granite]

oof yeah those aren't fun to load

[elder arrow]

ITS PAIN

[red granite]

and it was stored you watched the hangar elevator go all the way down and stayed for the doors to close and the lights to come back on?

[elder arrow]

I stored it and watched it go down as i got into the elevator

and checked the terminal in the lobby and it said "Retrive" so it was 100% stored

[red granite]

I get sitting still for an etra 8 seconds is torture but I don't even call the person elevator until the lights come on and haven't had this bug. Could be coincidence and completely unrelated 🤷‍♂️

[elder arrow]

Maybe

[red granite]

I'd totally rather take the chance to have to manually load rather than wait 8 seconds though, completely understandable /s

[elder arrow]

Imma just hope manually unloading this into the station lets me sell all this RMC

its 200 SCU of the shit and i'd like to sell it

[red granite]

I'll keep testing, see if I can figure out what's causing it to fail. It's SC so it's probably just buggy game and RNG on whether it works or not. Strange that I've tried maybe 14 times this patch and haven't had an issue yet

low pop, high pop, all regions, different ships. All work fine...

[elder arrow]

lucky you

For a step by step what i did,
I have that stupid text on my screen like "if you leave area cargo will fail" ever since a cargo failed at dudleys and daugthers, went away then came back,

And landed C2, stored it, went into elevator, checked ship terminal to see if it was stored, went to admin, clicked ship>max>sell>failed

[red granite]

hmm I'm guessing you tried to sell again?

[elder arrow]

Yeah and it failed

[red granite]

i.e. close the failed box and clicked max>sell a few times

[elder arrow]

clicked a different item, failed etc

[red granite]

what causes the "if you leave area cargo will fail" Is that a Hull-C thing?

[elder arrow]

Did that on different items, on different amounts,

[elder arrow]

thats on my M2,

I went to rats nest to sell scrap and it failed / stock limit something whatever that message was

left the area and above my QT screen its this white text going "if you leave the area your cargo shipment will fail" etc

[red granite]

That might be it, I'll dig around and see what I can find. not the first player to have that text stuck all patch..

[elder arrow]

Yeah

okay yeah manual loaded into station sells it

managed to sell 120 SCU of the 200

[tidal shore]

not sure what the bag is you are referring to

the ROC has an inventory

thats it

[keen garden]

the roc has a bag

next to the open inventory button is a deploy button, it moves the bottom holder away from the bag, then if the ports are unlocked you can remove it

can also buy extras at cargo places

[elder arrow]

speaking off bags, i know you can get the argo pods for the prospector, for more SCU storage, can you do the same for the golem?

[pearl juniper]

no, the golem uses a different style container, not interchangeable

[elder arrow]

Fair enough

How many does it hold?

[pearl juniper]

32 I believe, same as a standard Prospector

[elder arrow]

Oh thats not bad tbh

time to unload 230 SCU of cmats from a M2

[elder arrow]

@keen garden Thoughts on getting the Hull-C now and hope its fixed next patch or nah?

[keen garden]

i'm not much of a hauler, but based on what i know of next patch it's probably not ideal, even if it is working well

[elder arrow]

How so?

ALSO is the SRV even useful at all for anything?

[keen garden]

the bigger hauling missions are gone, the 600k-700k, replaced with lower value interstellar missions to nyx

but they could always rebalance the value before it releases

[elder arrow]

THey could yeah

the fucks only worth 15mill, i can get one and hope it'll pay itself off when 4.4 is out

[formal cairn]

think it'd be safer to wait to buy a ship until after the patch?

ive never lost anything big after an update, but ive definitely heard stories

i have enough to get the C2 now, but im a little aprehensive lol

[elder arrow]

i went ahead and got one for the shits and giggles of it

Currently heading to arccorp to buy a talon strike, and im debating if i wanna get a prowler OR wait for the utility version of it

[formal cairn]

im pretty pumped for the utility

[storm storm]

Wait for the utitlity

Normal prowler is pretty bad

[elder arrow]

true

does the pilot still have the same weapon config on the utitlity?

[storm storm]

No idea

I dont own either of the prowlers

[elder arrow]

fair

also whats up with the two ROCs? one is a DS whats the other one and whats the differences?

[formal cairn]

im pretty sure the Utility has the same layout for weapons, but the main guns got sized down by 1

so two S5 and two S3 on the regular prowler, then two S4 and two S3 on the utility

[elder arrow]

Thats not bad tbh

[formal cairn]

i think the DS just has 2 seats, one person is on the outside in the mining turret seat

the regular ROC is a single seater, driver does the scooting and mining

which is more entertaining anyway, even with a group.

[elder arrow]

Ooooh gotcha

[vocal portal]

Would the Core or Vulture be a good first ship to get into solo salvage missions ?

[elder arrow]

I think vulture is really good for solo salvage

[vocal portal]

Thanks, will i be able to rent one this coming weekend IAE ? could be a chance to check it out before dropping thw creds

[unique ridge]

yep you'll be able to rent it

[vocal portal]

Great, I'll hold off until then, can't get on after today until friday anyway.

[wet moat]

Whats best for the Vulture?
-Going for Panels in Astroid fields
-Scraping ships for RMC
-Scraping ships for CMATS

[elder arrow]

Anyone got a good video on solo work in the mole, for what to run on it and stuff

like gear, parts,

[main trench]

i like scraping ships since it offers some variety. i don't like cmats solo, it feels like it takes up too much space for not enough value per ship.

esp when i can finagle packing ~33 SCU of RMC total if i do it right. offload everything onto grid, offload all i can off grid, and then fill up internal storage

[blissful flume]

Has anyone tried salvage with reclaimer in ptu with external cargo elevator?

[keen garden]

i would argue, scraping ships for rmc, if you can get the unverified missions that pay you to scrape a ship

panels can be good too, but also... keep in mind both have a fairly low profit ceiling. panels, before the rmc value nerf, were only 400k-600k an hour,

scraping ships won't be a whole lot better, but depends heavily on your source of ships

could also try scraping panels in pyro at outposts, where they pay you to clean up an area, also throw in the maintenance missions since you have rmc to make the salvage canisters

aka use contracts to fill in for the loss in value from rmc

[wet moat]

Never heard about the clean up and the maintenance missions. It sound at least worth to try.

[elder arrow]

I'm debating if its worth it to stay at Grimhex to do a shit ton of salvage contracts + gilly 7# mission to earn money back from the contracts,

And refine the Cmats in a near by station close to grimhex since i can unload there and then sell else where

just the damn contracts for salvage in pyro take forever to refresh and i finally got one good contract thats nice

[wet moat]

Considering the 30% u get after refining, are cmats even worth it?

[red granite]

someone did the math earlier, it was 600k - 1m aUEC/hr with the reclaimer they were averaging IIRC

that might have been divided between 3 players as well

so 1.8-3m total aUEC/hr

not accounting for refining time

[random patrol]

1m -1.5m is a good number for an hour. Two of us managed 7 hull c's and they average 170scu cmat salvage.

[wet moat]

Would it be worth with the vulture to only farm cmats?

[red granite]

I think if you have a cargo ship nearby it could be. Though I would probably scrape the RMC first and then fracture and disintegrate the CM. Haven't done the math on the vulture yet.

[random patrol]

Do you know the biggest ship that can be fractured with a vulture and how much cmat you get from it?

[wet moat]

I have never tried it. All I did so far was to harvest panels in the field next to C1.
That's why I am asking if other ways are maybe more lukrativ 😅

[random patrol]

I might try it out tonight and see how much I can make with one then. I usually run a reclaimer so im used to large ships...

[kindred falcon]

back when i was super into it, i used to run a helix (2x reigerc3 + surge/stampede) and 2x hofstede build (Torrent + torpid/Torrent + Focus)

wondering if i should run a triple helix build this go around instead

[vestal ravine]

As I said before until CM gains more downstream value I do not collect it just get the RMC. It's $5.3K per crate and you have less crates to toss off the Reclaimer so saves time also. In Stanton for the legal salvage they have the bigger ships for 10 0r 20K it's really pretty good.

[random patrol]

These are free and people keep leaving them everywhere

[unique ridge]

yeah i always abandon mine with the power off, shields down and spindles extended for peopel that want to take it or people that want to salvage it

i try to get it out of armistice also

for the vulture guys

[north oyster]

That's a great idea, last time when the Hull C stopped working I just rammed the LOS at full speed for impact demo. The game mechanics need to be adjusted for salvage and SRV support, imo

[unique ridge]

yeah at least let someone make some money off it or use it

[north oyster]

I do dream of my SRV being useful one day. The idea of being able to salvage and/or towing a ship to a scrap yard and getting paid for that would be so much fun.

[unique ridge]

hahah keep the dream alive

[north oyster]

This ship runs on Hopeium

[elder arrow]

I think its better for Cmats since you earn more from them being at around 8k takes a lot less time to get then RMC

I'm hoping with nyx's launch the 85% value we had for the reclaimer in PTU comes back because the 15% is honestly ass

[hybrid lark]

is TDD broken right now? It doesn't recognize my stored resources

[random patrol]

TDD where?

[hybrid lark]

NB

[random patrol]

selling what?

refined ore?

[hybrid lark]

Different commodities looted from bounties. Gold, med supplies etc

[random patrol]

did you ever get to sell them or no?

[hybrid lark]

NB TDD doesn't recognize them in my inventory

[random patrol]

dont you sell looted items at grim hex?

[hybrid lark]

Usually cargo looted from legit bounties sells at TDD, at least it used to including last patch

[random patrol]

The game and its weird ass bugs

[random patrol]

So to answer your earlier question on salving only cmats with the vulture.....It isnt worth it IMO since even though you get 30% vs the reclaimer 15%.....youll never get a decent return since all the ships you are cracking are small....less than 4scu

[wet moat]

❤️ Thanks

[surreal grove]

Hi all, long time star citizen citizen. I've never gotten into or tried the mining/salvage/cargo loops until now. Which of these is the most profitable at the moment? My returns from savaging last night were disappointing, so I wanted to look at some advice or feedback.

[oak hatch]

That heavily depends on what did you use for salvage

And which material you salvaged

RMC pays more but take longer to collect

CMAT can be done in bulk fast but pays less

The size of the ship matter too

Reclaimer can yield around 300-500k with full cmat

[past fractal]

The thing to keep in mind, is mining and salvage aren't supposed to be for making money. They're supposed to be material supply loops for crafting. So, they make money, but not as much as other things.

Cargo makes money, based on the haul and type of cargo, but it's upper end is getting nerfed soon to be more in line with other loops.

CMAT sells for more than RMC now. RMC is better on small ships, like the Fortune, where the Reclaimer is better off just making tons of CMATs

[oak hatch]

Ah

I didn’t really use my reclaimer last patch lol

But yeah bulk cmat with that thing is crazy

[past fractal]

It's been nerfed, but, as I said, it's supposed to be a supply point for crafting, not a money maker

[jovial matrix]

"back in my day, we used to make 10mil per run with a reclaimer!"

[past fractal]

Even when I could, I didn't. I hate grinding for money in any game, I already do that in real life

[jovial matrix]

Thats a very good point

[past fractal]

Money comes, money goes. The important question is, Did you have fun?

[oak hatch]

Real

[random patrol]

Imo the reclaimer makes you work for it now.

[random patrol]

Peppridge farm remembers

[surreal grove]

I was using the vulture and only got 30k for 7 scu of RMC, but that was over 3-4 hours lol. Again, new to the loop so I spent a lot of time playing around with the ship. Melted the buccaneers for the vulture. Regardless of the low return, I had fun doing something different.

[storm storm]

Good times

[cerulean lichen]

Ok dumb question. How do I remove the mining bags? If I tractor beam them either the ships shields stop it or the tractor beam tries to pick up the entire ship

[spare cloud]

Right Alt + K from pilot seat to unlock ship ports.

[orchid lark]

Hi, I haven't done any serious cargo runs since 3.18 and was wondering what if its better to run missions or trade commodities? What is less buggy and works more often?

I have an M2 for now.

[red granite]

Contracts > Trading

[fickle kraken]

Hauling missions not only more rewarding, you also gain rep, and do not risk any own money

[orchid lark]

Thanks guys, will check them out in 4.4! 🙂

[rain tinsel]

any idea when the patch is rolling? lots of fear mongering about losing ships

[limpid sluice]

Today sometime

[rain tinsel]

i noticed when you dock the reclaimer at a docking port in orison, the lobby there is empty, no security and wide open for anyone to come down the tunnel, not inspiring to use

[limpid sluice]

Not like security would do a whole lot anyways lol. Anyone not in your party should get repositioned if they board your ship though

[fickle kraken]

There are zap guns, will incapacitate peeps, give them to police on stations

[random patrol]

Rumor its 1600 utc...20 mins from now

"Rumor"

[rain tinsel]

also could put a ship selection terminal in the lobby and allow the ship owner to lock the door to the tunnel or something

IC they fixed the rear hatch for the reclaimer ! finally

[random patrol]

Can't wait for all the abandoned capital ships to salvage...

[rain tinsel]

yeah but what sux is you can still only take 240 per hull break, it doesnt leave anythign behind

a cap ship with 20000 construction material salvage will yield 240 lol

unless they have them break up into many pieces, but the other large ships dont really do that

i know 890 jump is 240

[random patrol]

C2 is around 200

Hull c is 170ish

[rain tinsel]

at least with the hammerhead, it breaks up into a couple of piecs

[fierce harness]

Any site that has updated info on new Ore?

[fickle kraken]

https://www.mindat.org/min-470894.html

[fierce harness]

[fickle kraken]

Newest ore discovered

[limpid sluice]

Don't be a troll

[fierce harness]

[elfin rune]

Any news about the golem ox?

[sturdy hearth]

Is one able to attach ship weapons and components to the Raft's cargo grid for transport? or will the raft only move SCU boxes?

[sly robin]

do you guys can switch mining heads on MOLE ?

[heady remnant]

I have enough money to buy a golem, prospector, or a mole
And I wanna get into mining, which one should I buy?

[spare cloud]

Prospector < Golem with mothership (Asgard, C2) < Prospector with mothership (890J, Polaris, Idris).

And MOLE is cool too, but far less capacity than a smaller mining ship + mothership and shit load of bags.

The feeling of cracking large ass rocks is awesome tho.

[heady remnant]

I have a M2

would that work?

[spare cloud]

For sure

I said C2 but any Hercules works for the Golem

[heady remnant]

so buy a golem with a bunch of ore containers?

im familiar loading ground vehicles but how would I do it with the m2?

[spare cloud]

Same as ground vehicles. Spawn small vehicle, park it to the side, spawn large one, make Tetris.

[heady remnant]

what equipment for the golem? Ive mined like twice a long time ago and just used stock parts

[spare cloud]

You can only get modules, not change the head.
[2x Rieger-C3] or [Rieger-C3 + Surge] are good modules to get.

A Sabir gadget can come in handy too

[heady remnant]

When im done mining, what do i do with all the full pods ive obtained?

[spare cloud]

Swap them with empty pods in your ship.

Then, unload all full pods in the freight elevator at your chosen refinery and refine.

[heady remnant]

ooh i didnt know it was that easy to get it to register

[red timber]

how come i cant change the heads on my mole ?

[sly robin]

contribute here https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-184338#contribution:237e4c02-841d-4c4a-b26a-833d82d5d2af

[simple cape]

Seems like I picked the wrong day pick up SC again. Didn't even know 4.4.0 was coming out today. I just wanted to mine quietly.

[covert dome]

rip

[heady remnant]

how do i remove the ore bags from the golem and switch them out?

[past fractal]

right alt + K from the pilot's seat

[copper kiln]

The potential wild life locations are still not fixed, right?

[cerulean lichen]

Anyone tried mining in nyx yet?

[heady remnant]

yup, its pretty fun

[pastel flame]

Yeah but bad news

I'd show the refinery value but I get impounded every time I arrive at my hangar

Both Torite and Lindinium are 1 uec though as ore

[long frost]

Can someone confirm if hull c autoloading still is a thing?

I know that the contracts got nerfed but if the autoloading still works, I'll give it a try later

[modern osprey]

it's still a thing

the magic blue box

[long frost]

okay 🙂

[real wind]

LIVE 4.4: No idea if this is new, but I found that I can practice Prospector mining in Arena Commander. Use the Online Freeflight game mode and choose the Astor's clearing map. Scan for unknowns and then mine rocks (granite). This would be great if it had more mining resources to simply practice and sandbox.

[wispy bolt]

Hull-C doesn't seem playable - if I dock it, I can't undock - game parking services put it away and if I respawn it, it is in the hanger with spindles extended and is destroyed

lost 800k cargo testing it today