industrial-professions

[elder arrow]

Like I do like the direction they are going with for salvage and getting Cmats and refining it.

It's like recycling it to be used again

But fuck me, they really just want to shaft us by giving us a return rate that low??

[turbid tartan]

yea

checks out

[elder arrow]

Like salvage ships literally help and would be a huge support thing for their crafting systems and other players

Like cig please

[turbid tartan]

i guess they hope that with crafting the player price skyrockets

but for that to happen they would have to make CM not be a comodity that can be bought from shops

or for an obscene price

[elder arrow]

yeah

Small ships yield return should be 30ish % I think that's valid since smaller craft, it's not decked out to handle huge processing

Medium should be maybe 50-60%
And large maybe 70-80%

Am I valid for these numbers or taking a piss?

[turbid tartan]

yea

[turbid tartan]

if that doesnt happen i might grab some pitchforks and torches

[elder arrow]

Agreed

When I'm at my PC I might honestly open a spectrum post and have people contribute to it unless someone already made that a thing

[turbid tartan]

am too lazy to make one

havent seen anything about the CM prices

[elder arrow]

It's still the weekend so cig devs will probably fix the most damning bugs Monday? IE: TDDs, the event rep being fucked, and the hull c

[turbid tartan]

hopefully

[elder arrow]

Yeah

[storm storm]

Whats wrong with event rep

[elder arrow]

Fucked is what it be

[storm storm]

You mean that it dont split?

[elder arrow]

Last I heard is the rep doesn't increase?

[elder arrow]

How rare is stileron in pyro mining?

[karmic stirrup]

The prices haven’t been updated yet on sites like sc-tools, and you can’t go find out by selling at terminals because they are bugged. So rn there is no idea 🤷🏼‍♂️

[candid zodiac]

anyone else not able to sell cm even when its in demand?

ive been to 2 stations and neither will take it

[pale bloom]

this is kinda a dumb question but how the hell do i sell the items??

[red granite]

Wait™

[pale bloom]

is it bugged? completely new to selling cargo

[red granite]

look at the message right above yours

[pale bloom]

:> its bugged

[pearl juniper]

so, IF it's working, you click the commodify (or click the max button), and it should pop up a message telling you how much you are going to get and you click sell. If it's broken, nothing happens when you click max.

it's not broken everywhere, maybe just TDD and main Pyro stations? I'm not sure. I have sold at a couple of smaller Pyro stations last night and the night before.

If you want to fly around a bit, try taking the quantanium to Cru L5 (better price there anyway)

[pale bloom]

went to cru first it said it was full so came to orison

[pearl juniper]

taranite you could try Grim Hex. And Bexalite Rat's Nest in Pyro. I haven't sold at Rat's Nest specifically, but I have had success at Patch City and Starlight. Patch City also buys Bexalite, but at a bit lower price.

[pale bloom]

so ig just waitings the only option

[pale bloom]

is grim hex safe?

[pearl juniper]

ish

[pale bloom]

ahh alr

[pearl juniper]

higher chance of running into someone hostile, but still just a chance. More often than not when I have been there it's fine.

[pale bloom]

thanks sm for the help any idea when itll be fixed?

[pearl juniper]

no idea. I would imagine it will be hot fixed, but sometimes things are broken for a whole patch.

also auto unloading is... not the most reliable. Usually better off unloading manually and sending it down the elevator.

[pale bloom]

i have a feeling this isnt smth they can just leave alone for a whole patch

alr will not auto load from now on

however annoying that may be

[pearl juniper]

I mean feel free to try it, but in the past there have been issues. Like lose your cargo and not get paid issues.

[tall vigil]

Is Hull C completly broken this patch?

[cerulean lichen]

Ok anyone else have this bug where you ship stops being able to move forward and backwards? It only happens when I’m mining

[vocal raptor]

Would you mind telling me where to get the “Carnitine

To turn in for wikilo

[elder arrow]

Yes

[elder arrow]

Yes TDD terminals in both pyro and Stanton are fucked rn

[elder arrow]

TDDs in pyro and Stanton fucked rn

[pale bloom]

alr thanks sm any news on hot fixes on the way?

[elder arrow]

Not really no,
I'll check on my PC in 30 minutes. If there're any spectrum posts or anything

But as far as I'm aware there's no news for a patch but it is the weekend

[drowsy kettle]

salvage is shit, mining doesnt work on the mole and now TDD's dont even work? honestly a bit dissapointed, i thought they were past these kind of bugs getting into patches, they should have delayed it

[mild pumice]

It would only have been broken later if they delayed it, that's kinda how it goes tbh

[merry stump]

in a prospector learning to mine, how do i get rid of inert material

[mild pumice]

You don't, you need to be selective to mine chunks with the lowest amount you can, there's passive modules that reduce the amount collected but extracting 100% ore is preferable

[amber steeple]

How is salvage shit now? Haven't done salvage for a week since before the patch...

[drowsy kettle]

got in the reclaimer with my friend, got 240scu of construction material scrap and it refined all into 40 scu, so about 400k for a bit over a whole hour of work cause the reclaimer cant land at refinery stations in stanton, gotta put it into a cargo ship from the reclaimer which is already a pain, i also heard they nerfed rmc to 5k aswell due to "faster scraping times" but i doubt that

we havent even sold any and im now hearing TDD's dont even work

[near swallow]

Reclaimer can dock at stations now apparently.

[wooden sonnet]

yes aslong as u dont have a bounty on u as a lot of bounty hunters will sit there waiting for u to leave for ur hangar

[elder arrow]

RMC is worth 5k to 6k
and Cmats are around 7k to 9k Per SCU,

the current build seems a bit broken for numbers because vulture is at a 40% yield rate, where as the reclaimer is at 15% yield rate for the Cmats refinery

as from this message from CIG

savlage in large ships should be low density and HIGHEST yield

so this should be addressed in a few patchs when they fix the TDD screens hopefully soon

also dont bother doing salvage in stanton go to pyro to unload the reclaimer into the refinery at the main stations there

its faster / quicker / easier instead of loading up a cargo ship

So yeah the 15% yield rate is kinda shit,
but if you ignore the cargo grid in the reclaimer and cram that fucker with as many 12SCU boxes as you can and stagger queue a refinery

you could earn quite a bit

As someone said earlier to me, dont play the game to earn the most the quickest, play to enjoy the gameplay loop

me and my friend are doing salvage in a reclaimer and having the time of our lives doing so rn, its chill, its peaceful, and its fun watching each other get wacked upside down the head by a box

[drowsy kettle]

i absolutely agree with enjoying the gameplay loop, but everyone loves seeing money go up and so do i

id do mining and salvage more if it earned even a bit more, its quantanium or nothing sadly with mining

[grand trellis]

why wont it sell

[karmic stirrup]

Because it’s bugged.

[grand trellis]

ok thats strange i did one earlyer and that one worked fine

[karmic stirrup]

Same process using a commodity terminal?

[grand trellis]

yea i mean first time it cose my aurora as the cargo ship but i was able to sell

[karmic stirrup]

That is strange. Perhaps a minuscule chance it does work and you can sell something but it seems 99% of the time it doesn’t now.

[grand trellis]

The First Trade i did that worked was in Magnus the second one that didnt Work was From bajini

[cerulean lichen]

Ok anyone else have this bug where you ship stops being able to move forward and backwards? It only happens when I’m mining

[red granite]

speed limiter?

[onyx trench]

is auto-loading for commodities shut off this patch?

someone in my party has tried to autoload commodities onto their caterpillar. It is stored and they have tried server hopping

[wise stump]

Morning, TDD still down ?

[elder arrow]

i believe so

[wise stump]

guess just hording till it gets back on 🙂

[turbid tartan]

rookie numbers :P

[elder arrow]

i would have gotten more but my internet fucking crashed earlier and its still out

going go attempt round two hopefully tomorrow and IM HOPING my internet is back on

[turbid tartan]

good luck ^^

if you need an expert lmk :P

[elder arrow]

is there any information youll share that isnt trade secret

[turbid tartan]

nope :3

[elder arrow]

also it’s like 2am for me

so imma head back to bed

goodnight

[turbid tartan]

yea, go sleep man

good night :3

[elder arrow]

yeh

[turbid tartan]

i may or may not have something that could help, that being play tetris with the boxes

[turbid tartan]

btw has anyone figured out already where the best place to sell CM is?

[fringe torrent]

next week

[turbid tartan]

why spcifically next week?

[glass dust]

Currently cannot sell anything.

[fringe torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/82210263440306176/1429368966933123082

[pale bloom]

did they hot fix the mole yet?

[pearl juniper]

It's listed as fixed in the hot fix notes. Not sure if they have pushed it to live, but you can always play on the hot fix channel.

Dunno if it's actually fixed, but it's supposed to be

[pale bloom]

asked someone else and yea it seems to fixed

also whats the hot fix channel?

[pearl juniper]

In the drop down in the launcher, sometimes they will release client hot fixes to test before apply them to live

You can play either.

[pale bloom]

ahhh alr progress carries over right?

[pearl juniper]

Copy your live folder and name it HOTFIX to avoid downloading the whole game again

Yeah, it's exactly like playing on live

[pale bloom]

alr thx sm

[pearl juniper]

You can also just rename your live folder, but then you have to rename it back to live when you want / need to switch back, and occasionally the hotfix is more broken (or differently broken) than live. I remember back in the 4.1 days when all the elevators were broken, sometimes the hotfix would let you get an elevator and leave a station, but then other things would be broken so I would bed log and switch back to the normal one.

[elder arrow]

alright so after a ton of digging around and looking at way to many forum posts,
I'll try and make this neat and short for everyone

the salvage numbers for 15% and 40% yields etc have been handled to the dev team to look at, its not confirmed they'll fix it but theres a "Issue council" post talking about it,

For the TDDs yeah no there is so many posts its mental but the one i found is confirmed so i think that'll get patched hopefully soon

there is a lot of IC posts about the reclaimer or reclaimer cannot sell at TDDs etc etc, its a lot of duplicated posts

[upbeat stream]

can you sell at trade terminals yet?

[lyric bough]

anyone know what the scanning score multiplier means on regolith rocks website?

[lyric yew]

I can't sell either!

[elder arrow]

Literally in the above message i said TDD's are not working still.

[elder arrow]

TDDs still do not work

[upbeat stream]

i was looking at messages above when i sent that

[elder arrow]

AH then no you cannot sell at TDD's yet

there is a hotfix version of the game in the launcher but i've yet confirm if its working in that build or not

[upbeat stream]

i really hope because I have like 800k worth of meds at magnus that i wanna sell

[lyric yew]

downloading Hotfix now - will report if it works for selling commodities

[pearl juniper]

copy your live folder and rename it, will save a lot of downloading time

the notes don't say anything about it fixing the sell terminals though.

[elder arrow]

Yeah the hotfix and live should be the same servers or something, so your progress is synch?

Though im not 100% on that

[pearl juniper]

yes. You can be playing on the same server with people who are on the regular live

[elder arrow]

thats really strange i wonder how it works

[pearl juniper]

on a client side hotfix that is. There are also server hotfixes that they do, which obviously are server specific. And as they roll them out some servers will be on one and some on the other.

[elder arrow]

Yeah

[upbeat stream]

how big is the download

[pearl juniper]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/190048/thread/star-citizen-alpha-4-3-0-live-hotfix-central No mention of cargo terminal issue

[elder arrow]

Lovely

i saw a post on on the issue council with 700+ confirm stuff, that they are addressing it

and then another one with ehh 30 or so people about salvage yield rates

[pearl juniper]

at least you guys are in the game. I'm stuck with infinite loading and an eventual 41013

[elder arrow]

Pain

[lyric yew]

about 5GB, almost done verifying

[elder arrow]

I dunno if iwanna go through the effort of getting into the hotfix build or not

[upbeat stream]

wing_commander will check 🫡

[lyric yew]

yeah my char is on MIC-L5 with stuff ready to sell. Verifying is taking awhile though...

[elder arrow]

If you can sell stuff let me know, i got like 100 SCU worth of Cmats i wanna sell

[upbeat stream]

i got 196 meds i need to as well

[elder arrow]

Yeah

But yeah i do really really hope they fix the damn yield rates for the reclaimer and vulture because its honestly bullshit at those values they have rn

[fossil atlas]

is the mole currently working on hotfix? i'm haven't mined in a while so i don't remember what works and what doesn't

[upbeat stream]

is it working?

[lyric yew]

saw your msg in global. sadly still can't sell

[upbeat stream]

what preceded the bug/them turning it off

[lyric yew]

someone said take off your gear and sell, doesn't work either

[upbeat stream]

why would that work lmao

[pearl juniper]

because weird bugs are weird

for a while the HUD in your ship would break if you had a multi tool equipped

[upbeat stream]

true that true that

someone @ me when its fixed please

[worthy citrus]

I have been trying to sell my cargo with my hull c, but the station isn’t able to access its inventory, anyone know a fix?

[cerulean lichen]

How do I remove mining bags? When I try to tractor beam them off with shields down the beam just tries to pick up the entire golem

[pearl juniper]

Unlock ports. Right alt+k

[pale bloom]

if i collect multiple refinery orders onto a ship lets say 2 order totaling 32scu and my hauler can carry 32 large crates will they be auto loaded into the ship with 32scu crates or smth else?'

[red granite]

It's like a reward system for the website. You get extra points for submitting data at certain locations. The ones with less datapoints they reward you more points.

[lyric bough]

Thx good to know i was confused if it was a hidden game mechanic or something

[wise stump]

Are the TDD working again?

[elder arrow]

As far as im aware, not yet no

[mild pumice]

I think I know what they've done and why people can't sell. They said something about crate sizes, I can't remember if it was during Citcon or not but they mentioned balancing commodity and sizes of boxes so that smaller ships aren't irrelevant. I wonder if they went ahead and adjusted it prematurely and that's why TDDs wont take the larger SCU sizes.

[wise stump]

maybe,
Other question for those doing some salvage in stanton. The salvage missions have they changed much part from the price? I been mostly in pyro.

They can also start working on breaking some of these bigger ships in smaller chunks. Here a reclaimer 2 parts 1 489 and other 458 scu what a waist of mats.

[mild pumice]

OK so it isn't that - maybe it's something to do with this new 'general storage' tab.

[elder arrow]

Honestly i really think its something so far down in the backend that even they are like wtf is this?

[knotty bolt]

In my experience, If the 32 scu are the same item yes. Aka 32 scu gold yes. But if its mixed obviously not

[elder arrow]

Btw is mining worth doing or should i try my hand at cargo?

[mild pumice]

yeah can't even s ell direct from ship - they broke something good lol

[elder arrow]

yeah something done borked

[mild pumice]

might be able to sell directly from the Ore terminal?

[elder arrow]

i think?

if not i can build up a good stock to sell later

[mild pumice]

yeah as long as they don't have to flush the database that would work

[elder arrow]

It would be really bad on them if they have to do a wipe

[mild pumice]

well when we had bad patched with big issues before they have had to do LTP resets with the fixes so just soemthing to keep in the back of your mind

[elder arrow]

lovely

[mild pumice]

back in the 3.18 days was so bad we got like 5 character resets in a week LOL

[elder arrow]

Hellyeah we did!

[mild pumice]

I remember moving all my shit 5 times and getting very annoyed 😄

[elder arrow]

yeahhh

well hopefully they dont have to resort to that

Im thinking mining could be a good means of credits rn

since in pyro i got some fun contracts for 135k each but they take a few minutes to do

so just weighing my options

[wise stump]

When TDD work the Headhunter salvage missions 50 k is pretty good. It gives 2 ships and some of them have scrap and gold in it to sell. But offcourse TDD needs to work

And boxes over 16scu u need to transport to stanton

[eternal jungle]

Is there anything I can do with Contract Hauls after the contract expires?
I was hauling a couple contracts midway when the server busted on me landing it to expire and poof when I logged back in, but the haul still on my ship

[viral heath]

dupre still shite?

[plain pewter]

what's up with Dupree

[fringe torrent]

I heard they fixed the contract dupe

[plain pewter]

so it's not shite - it's fixed. 😛

[finite plinth]

Anyone wanna do hauling together?

[cerulean lichen]

Ok so it wasn’t just me last night. I couldn’t sell anything😅

[pearl juniper]

Update on the sell issue https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/190048/thread/star-citizen-alpha-4-3-0-live-hotfix-central

[red sierra]

does the geo work now? did an olp last weekend and the scanning/mining hud was broken on it as well

[limpid sluice]

Still broken afaik

[elder arrow]

thats nice, did they make any mention about the reclaimers missing cargo grid and salvage stuff?

But im glad the stupid TDDs are being fixed, i hope they fix the even rep too

[wise stump]

Question for those doing some salvage in stanton. The salvage missions have they changed much part from the price? I been mostly in pyro.
They can also start working on breaking some of these bigger ships in smaller chunks. Here a reclaimer 2 parts 1 489 and other 458 scu what a waist of mats.

[elder arrow]

They are pretty much the same, we are getting more ships at some point in the salvage pool

[elder arrow]

also has the headhunter/salvage rep gone up for you at all?

[wise stump]

yes

[elder arrow]

Are you just doing salvage missions to get HH rep?

[wise stump]

I was senior before the patch

yes

[elder arrow]

Alrighty ty,

I was thinking of trying to increase my rep with HH but i heard the event broke it

[wise stump]

and the prio missions with org they do those missions. I do salvage

its the same rep

best is have a group go to for example to ruin, each take the salvage mission first then you share

[elder arrow]

Yeah im currently solo, and getting my friends into pyro to do like missions like th at is painful

they get side tracked hard to doing other stuff

[wise stump]

but dont take these 2 missions. 50 k kill and salvage there is no waypoint. and the 80k one

u can join me

i am just jumping around if u want some free rep

[elder arrow]

take the 50k kill missions and then salvage the stuff?

[wise stump]

I need another 5 to 7 120 k mission to be at the elite status and get the 150k missions

no dont take that one

[elder arrow]

Which missions would you recommend, im currently trying to fix my mobi glass

[wise stump]

so first the 1000 one and the 8 kill where u need to salvage easy to to the 8k with a vulture.
then do the 20k once u can just go around and kill the ships and keep jumping around leave the ship. unless u want the CM mats.
Then skip the first 50k mission u get its called kill and salavage. There is no way point to jump through
Then the 2nd 50 k missions is golden in my eyes. It gives 2 ships from a few good once and some not so great. But best to get in that mission are hammerheads, starfarer, c2, m2 and a2 where the hercules series have nice cargo inside what contains gold, scrap, iron and processed foods. they vary between 1 scu and 230 ish scu. So you can get 1 scu of gold and between 230, same for scrap. these 2 can give u 1 mission if u lucky over 1 mil to 2 mil in stuff. ontop of the salvage.

Then the 80k skip. it has of the 10 times i tried it 2 times a waypoint. its great for xp when u get its. but not worth doing when u cant get there so skip this.

120k is super for rep. the ships u get are reclaimer, catterpillar, and the carrack. the loot inside is just distilled spirits not worth it. but reclaimer is nice to get to get RCM and CM.. But rep is king here.

150k I dont know yet

[elder arrow]

this is all under the salavge tab right?

[wise stump]

but the prio missions are great for the beginning. after like contracter to senior contracter its gets less. but when i a party you do salvage and they do some missions or even better salvage its best

yes

but when u do missions with buddies. make sure to be in the same quest area

[elder arrow]

how many times did you have to do the titan salvage mission before a rank up?

[wise stump]

cause if u are at ruin and buddy checkmate and u share, u lose the mission at checkmate when u get there, Be at the same location, each accept a mission and then share.

good question
so first u get 1000 mission till Jr. contracter
the at at jr contracter u get the 20k mission.
senior contracter is the 50k mission u want. next mission u want is 120k at head contracter

I dont know how many but it will cost abit of money If i guess for example when u get the 50k mission u want to grab 1 bar is about 20 ish

[elder arrow]

gotcha

I can do a bounty hunter missions from HH to get credits to pay for the salvage fees

thank you for all the info

[wise stump]

np I am mainly doing the missions to know what the mission give and I can make a org events out of it.

I spend already about 1.5 mil on missions to get my rank up to the next rank, I need to do another 5 to 6 missions to get the elite standing.

[elder arrow]

Yeahhh salvage missions are really costly to rank up

couldnt doing the bounty hunter missions also rank you up for them or no?

[wise stump]

Its a different rank up

its ship combat, Rank 1, rank 2, rank 3 etc

[elder arrow]

Ahhhhhh so its seperate

[wise stump]

Salvage is only Standing with them. there is a mission you can do to choose headhunter side. its like go to a location destroy some servers. and then leave from then u are hostile to CFP so you only get HH missions there. U can still get the prio missions from CFP if you want the points for it

[elder arrow]

is that server mission apart of the event, or the one where you blow up some generators/

[wise stump]

no its not, its under merc tab. it does give a nice boost in standing just that mission

[elder arrow]

So that one also gives rep into the normal standing?

[wise stump]

you can only get this mission if u still get both faction missions.

that server one does give some standing rep yes

it gave me when i did it at the time almost a full level

[elder arrow]

Do you know the name of this mission?

[wise stump]

I wish they show numbers on that rap bar so we could see how much a mission gives

[elder arrow]

Ikr?

[wise stump]

sorry its been a while

rep bar

[elder arrow]

lemme see if i can find it in my mission tap when i get to bloom

[turbid tartan]

what was that about @static steeple

[elder arrow]

@wise stump okay soooo only missions i can think of that you mentioned would be

• shut off power at an astroid base (HH)
• scout and scan (HH)

i think shut off the power is the one you were talking about

[wise stump]

it says in the title something about Headhunter

[elder arrow]

wanna be a headhunter?

[wise stump]

are you still getting CFP merc missions ?

yeah

[elder arrow]

Im still seeing CFP missions yeah

[wise stump]

so do that wanna be a HH

[elder arrow]

im pretty sure i've done that mission like 3 times though but i still see CFP afterwards

i'll do it again though

[wise stump]

ah whats your standing with CFP

[elder arrow]

lemme check

i dont see them in the rep menu

[wise stump]

if you done some CFP PRIO missions, okey.. do the mission see if it flips CFP to hostile

[elder arrow]

Prio?

[wise stump]

the event missions going on now

[elder arrow]

ahhh i havent done any of those yet

[wise stump]

okey, those are good for the first stages of rep. I would recommend doing the 24k one its easy. go to the planet shoot the guys. take the pad and deliver it. it gives standing rep. just to note if u kill the guy you need to kill new guys spawn.
What i do I go with my connie. land and go sit in the turret shoot them all and run out to grab the pad. reminder as soon you leave your ship 2 kopians will come for you. Just so you know

[elder arrow]

what mission is the 24k one?
thats under merc work?

trying to do the wanna be a headhunter, scanning for the target in rocks cant find him anywhere

[wise stump]

thats the prio mission of HH

Not sure if the mission wana be a headhunter changes. I had to shoot some servers in the mission.

[elder arrow]

I think it changed i gotta find a guy flying around in a rock, but i guess hes not spawning

[wise stump]

hmm well I can only tell what i did. But thats the info i got for ya. to get standing rep outside prio missions

[elder arrow]

yeah imma be doing the HH and Prio missions,

it leveled up the far right standing a lot,

love buggy UI aha

[glossy trout]

Hey I am once again back checking if there is any significant change to salvaging.
Ty

[elder arrow]

nothing yet

However i am making a hyper fixation salvage spectrum post

[finite plinth]

anyone have a hull a?

anyone wanna haul with me?

[olive gull]

yes, there have been several changes, check here: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/alpha-4-3-2-patch-watch-structural-salvage-update/ we now have to 'refine' stuff

[magic nova]

haul eh?

I'll show myself out

[hard siren]

is ttd working now to sell

[coarse ember]

no, they're working on a hotfix for later in the week

[hard siren]

ok soon

[glossy trout]

@olive gull @elder arrow tysm 🫡

[elder arrow]

So i made a nice little spectrum forum post about the reclaimer and quality of life changes

[tall vigil]

What's the best location for multi-person golem mining for quantanium?

[wise stump]

Question for those ever done the mission 150k salvage defend, destroy and salvage is this bugged. for 1 destroy the target does not work, the target to defend does not work since there is no target to defend, plus it said it was suppose to be many ships its 1 freelancer max.. for 150k ...

[dapper aspen]

anyone know if the atlas is bugged atm?

[elder arrow]

Was asking in main chat,

but does anyone know if your able to directly sell the unrefined cmats at the ore stations?

[bleak leaf]

Sorry if there's a better channel for this. What's the best setup for a reclaimer in terms of upgrades? Especially ones that can be purchased in stores and not scrapped from other ships

[elder arrow]

literally just the abraidded salvage heads and thats about all you need really?

[bleak leaf]

thats what i thougyht

[elder arrow]

Yeah because all its components are capital grade

you could swap QT drive but eh?

COULD BE insane and change one of the tractor beams for a different salvage head

i know one of them is slower and a smaller radius but has a much higher RCM extraction rate thingy

[bleak leaf]

ok thank you

[wise stump]

I normally do abrades and I put the agni quatum drive to go abit faster. but I stay in the industry class components.

Morning, did the TDD got fixed during the night ?

[wise stump]

Question what is the limit of refinery jobs at 1 location if there is any ?

[random patrol]

Not that I know of...I mean ive had at least 7 going at one location

[random patrol]

Apparently on Wednesday during maintenance downtime it should be fixed. 1200utc running for 4 hours at least

[wise stump]

saying cause did a few salvage at the refinery time it takes on 1 i did is 300 hours. So thought if i put a order in everyday i will work to a point to get to the 300 hours

yeah i read that

[random patrol]

Lol 300 hours

[wise stump]

yeah crazy times

fast my ass 😄

[random patrol]

Can u break that up?

[wise stump]

no i did like 2500 scu on 1 trip

every trip is around that amount

I dont like to spend more than I have to

[random patrol]

I guess its worth the wait

Same

[wise stump]

so the 300 one is, low cost and highest gains.

hints I ask if there is a limit. I have to put it in cause 2 trips would fill my max scu at any location. 5000 scu is max storage

[random patrol]

Yeah

[wet moat]

Are components worth to take? I thought it's just the scrap that's worth the time

[wise stump]

most components are like stock sadly and u can sell it at 10x less than the value. There are some grade b scattered around but sadly i would say not worth it.

the only things I grab are like a2 bombs and size 10+ missle or torps. to give to the org to save money buying them

it is a shame that there is no change on good items. the most I seen is like grade b stealth components so far.

Our org did like 20 big missions with lots of fighters and all where like that not worth grabbing. I think if you want grade a u you to go pyro to executive hangers ? I believe, I not been there but org mates have a bunch of components from there

[modern kayak]

helllooo does anyone know whats the best material to mine w prospector without refining??

[cerulean lichen]

Has the TDD been fixed yet?

[mild pumice]

We're awaiting maintenance down time for additional fixes such as TDD

[coarse ember]

grade a-b you can usually find around the hathor OLP/PAF locations, inside pyro CZ and ye the executive hangar

[long grail]

What is the most profitable most spammed hauling route rn?

[stoic turret]

Is the Hull C Route involving Magnus still a thing? Should be 700k per Trip. I heard in 4.3.2 its not working flawless though

In former Gameversions the per contract margin was cutted a little shorter due to some buggy container placement

[long grail]

How about salvaging whats the hotspot forthat?

@stoic turret

[unique ridge]

magnus gateway is best spot for that go check it out

[long grail]

👀 from where

[unique ridge]

what you mean

[long grail]

where are they coming from

to go sell salvage

[unique ridge]

they do it there

[long grail]

freaky

[unique ridge]

yeah you should go out there and check it out

[long grail]

probably go refine at Hur-L3 or 4 then

[turbid tartan]

TDD Patch when?

:D

[unique ridge]

tomorrow

[turbid tartan]

:0

[long frost]

Are A2 bombs physical? Can you loot them from a soft dead A2?

[wise stump]

yeah

[long frost]

damn

[wise stump]

its easy money plus, they are expensive its nice to save money. same for the Polaris take out the missles. they are what 1 mil each buying. selling 100k but I save them for my org mates to use so saving 16 mil on a full rearm

[long frost]

Yeah should make for some money saving when using them nice

[storm storm]

When will they fix the hull c?

[compact plank]

Whenever a new pope is elected.

[mild pumice]

Hull C isn't broken it's the server back end that's the problem. I honestly think once we get the Hull B it'll be more in the spotlight and probably get adjustments to how it's loaded

Wondering how they'll make manually loading a Hull C worth it, that's going to take ages

[fierce harness]

How is mining at the moment. Thinking about doing some mining. Haven't done much and been away from SC for a few months... is mining in a good state atm?

[mild pumice]

Haven't done any mining myself this patch but there's a couple of flow blockers, UI issues on MOLE (they gave a prospector loaner) and TDD isn't working for selling so you can't sell your refined ore

The latter should be resolved after maintenance this week

[fierce harness]

Is hauling the big one atm getting all the love?

[finite plinth]

anyone interested ioing some hauling?

doing*

[civic epoch]

How do the legal salvage (ship) contracts work in Pyro? All I seem to get are the 1000 fee ones, for a Titan. I've done around a dozen or so of them, and don't see rep increase, or new contracts.

[limpid sluice]

Try #looking-for-session it's the channel to look for people to play with

[distant osprey]

hull c working after hotfix patch?

[finite plinth]

no

still wont load cargo

[small hull]

Cargo money printer, c2 or hull-c?

Seems like hull C is busted?

[pearl juniper]

oh, hey, this is a cool new feature. New to me anyway, maybe it's been in the game for a while?

[sweet willow]

anyone know what the optimal box sizes are to fill the c2? like (this many 32s) + (this many 16s)

[fringe torrent]

cargo cheat sheet is floating around with that info

[sweet willow]

so I know unfortunately too well that buying into a ship doesnt work. how about selling?

[covert dome]

the cheat sheets are in the pinned looks like btw

[elder arrow]

https://sc-cargo.space/

[frigid spruce]

is it true people are buying pure quant for millions?

[long frost]

People whisper that in dark corners, yes sire

[formal cairn]

Is there a way to sort the hauling contracts?

I feel like there's not, but I figured I'd check incase I'm overlooking something

[red granite]

That would be awesome. You'd think they would be in order of rep level

[formal cairn]

Yeah you would think lol, thats a damn shame

[grand trellis]

I am guessing they didnt fix the selling yet

[random patrol]

Game is down for maintenance right now.

[grand trellis]

Ah alright i am still at Work so i didnt know they already doing maintenance

For how long will There be maintenance

[random patrol]

Says 4 hours. Started at 1200 UTC

[hollow basin]

Technically 12:30 UTC (they stopped login at 12, and closed services at 12:30). Not expected to last more than 4hrs. It is 15:18 UTC now.

https://www.utctime.net/

[elder arrow]

its almost been four hours so the server should be coming back online shortly

[random patrol]

Nope

[pearl juniper]

good, better than them turning it back on broken

[remote willow]

Damn

Nice

[autumn frost]

Hopefully there is not a partial wipe. Have a bunch of cargo to sale from mining

[knotty bolt]

well I can log on now, so I'll let you know.
Doesnt seem like it though

[olive gull]

no wipe? or you were not able to log in?

[knotty bolt]

No wipe

just claimed my salvage from the refinery

and TDD works. Halleluja baby

[elder arrow]

Lets goooooo

[knotty bolt]

Oh I installed that shit hours ago XD

I could install it during maintenance.

[stark echo]

does the hull c work yet?

[limpid sluice]

Go test and let us know 👀

[distant osprey]

bro

i need to know if hull c missions work

[stark echo]

seems its still broken

[elder arrow]

TDD's at least in pyro seem to be working

Now to figure out where the hell do i seel this Cmat

[stark echo]

some people are saying their hull c is working though...

[elder arrow]

so with 262 SCU of Cmats i can probably "maybe" sell this shit for 2mill at best

[wise stump]

Are there any patch notes of what they did ?

[elder arrow]

I cant find anything atm

but the yield rates for salvage is still the same i believe

Honestly i think gaskin for refinery of Cmats might be worth it

high speed and cost, but decent yield

[olive gull]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/190048/thread/star-citizen-alpha-4-3-0-live-hotfix-central

[wise stump]

Ty

hmm just had a other bug. i had a full depot of 240 in the reclaimer. I go to the back and come with the first 16 scu. It starts and rest of depot despawned to zero haha 🙂

[elder arrow]

How did that happen?

did you like turn it on auto extract and leave the area?

[wise stump]

no i wanted to grab the 15 boxes out.

first machine i used it did that. last 15 worked fine. this one i lost 225 scu in the depot haha

[elder arrow]

HUh

I'll have to test around myself in a moment

[tough apex]

what gameplay loops can i do rn? i havent played in a while and have a harbinger rn and wanna switch it

[olive gull]

not salvaging, it is currently on a.. complicated state

go Mining ! or Hauling

[tough apex]

is hauling complicated tho

[olive gull]

nah, carrying boxes from a place to another, easy as can be
get a RAF, a MaxLift and a ATLS

[tough apex]

i meant routes

or can i just google it

[olive gull]

gotta check web tools on the matter

heard Gold trading is a thing nowadays

[tough apex]

what typa ship should i run with?

[olive gull]

RAFT

[tough apex]

why the raft

just curious

[olive gull]

easiest to load and unload,

[elder arrow]

Salvage is pretty good tbh

i just made 2.3mill from 262 SCU of Cmats

[olive gull]

on a Reclaimer?

[elder arrow]

yeah

[olive gull]

how many days refining?

[elder arrow]

It was like 4-6 full loads of a reclaimer so maybe like 1,200 or 1,500 SCU total of raw cmats

the yield rate is fucked

BUUUUT it only took like a day of refining

What i did was stagger the queue them, so i loaded up 200 SCU worth so it takes 24hrs

and i repeated that so all my orders where done at the same time

ALSO i did do all of this in pyro

So i skipped the whole cargo loading/unloading, traveling to a refinery station etc

I HIGHLY recommend doing it that way since its a bitch otherwise

I think salvage is really good given Cmats are easier to get, my one and only complaint is the fucking refinery yield rate being 15% of whatever we put in fore refining

400SCU 15% of that is 68SCU of refined cmats roughly

so yeah its a bitch

case in point here, its supposed to be the highest yield

so yeah just eat every ship you come across in a reclaimer

i've been using it as my dailiy ship for everything and KINDA trying to do "light" combat in it

[olive gull]

now that it has PDCs and pilot weapons...

[elder arrow]

The PDCs make short work of anything smaller then a argo mole

its really funny

IF YOU had someone in the turret you could take on a connie, and win but it takes a minute given the slow speed of this dumpster truck

[gaunt terrace]

any tips on the reclaimer after the rework to restore flow of money to what was before?

im kinda lost since the refinery at cru l1 wont accept my reclaimer's inventory to refine

[grand trellis]

so aperently selling works wich i can comfirm but i am stuck undocking my hull c hitting alt n dont work

[stark echo]

does loading/unloading work for your hull c if youre commodity running and not doing missions?

[main cobalt]

what website can i use to check where the best place to sell and refine?

[elder arrow]

#industrial-professions message
i wrote what i did for reclaimer work and stuff, at this link or you can scroll up

[elder arrow]

Hull C glitched out still i belive, but docking collars are also fucked / buggy half the time

[elder arrow]

Hull/C still has issues and problems has others been reporting

[gaunt terrace]

so i should salvage in stanton for higher scu income then refine in pyro?

actually smart

[elder arrow]

https://regolith.rocks/ (refining / selling)
https://uexcorp.space/ (Selling / more populure website)

[elder arrow]

you can salvage in pyro, just gotta rank up with Headhunters to get better salvage contracts

[gaunt terrace]

how much better contracts?

[elder arrow]

Im still leveling up with them, but you can come across a C2 i believe that has cargo that could have more stuff you could loot if you want that

[gaunt terrace]

ooo

[elder arrow]

and it takes two C2's to fully fill the depot in a reclaimer

NOW again im not entirely sure on that C2 cargo thing, its what i was told/heard from other sources

so im still confirming that one

[gaunt terrace]

well the paid version in stanton has cargo tho 32 scu shit doesnt fit on

[elder arrow]

yeah

Im still sorting out a play style for the reclaimer and tools/stuff you need for the best results

but staying in pyro has been the best for me personally,
less travel time for cargo hauling with wanting to sell

and you can refine/sell in the same location

[gaunt terrace]

yEA

thanks

[astral crystal]

trading fixed?

[elder arrow]

TDD's are fixed yes

[astral crystal]

thanks!

[silver pebble]

Hey guys, up to what tier of cargo missions can you run with a cutty black? 46 SC doesnt seem like much, but whats the highest tier and thus payout cargo mission you can take on with it?

I'm torn between getting a raft or a cutty

dont have a hauler/multirole ship (aside of my og mustang alpha for courier missions sometimes)

[elder arrow]

I would say get a raft if your doing cargo / hauler missions

46SCU is an okay amount for the small grade missions but if you're going to do higher grade and stuff you'll want the extra SCU

THOUGH you can rent a raft in game and get a cutter

[covert dome]

has anyone been able to do auto-loading for commodity runs since the patch?

mine still seems to be bricked

[elder arrow]

I have not tested that myself,
Are you doing this in a Hull-C?

[covert dome]

hercules C2

[elder arrow]

Hmmmm try a different ship/location and see what happens

[covert dome]

i'm not doing something stupid like it won't work when it's checked in or something?

can any ship be used?

[elder arrow]

I think any ship with a cargo grid can be used

[covert dome]

hm

[elder arrow]

Don't quote me on that

[covert dome]

lemme try pulling my raft over here

[elder arrow]

Good luck!

[covert dome]

thanks

if this works i'mma be depressed, i bought the c2 purely for commodity runs this weekend

nope, doesn't work for the argo or the starlifter

gateway itself, no problem

can you do me a favor, can you check if commodities work at all for you (buying) if you're near a tdd terminal? @elder arrow

[elder arrow]

hmmmm i guess auto loading is broken then

[elder arrow]

Im not in game rn, but i was able to sell stuff at a TDD in pyro

[covert dome]

i've had lots of people being able to sell, but haven't seen anyone confirm they can auto load

[elder arrow]

Yeah

[covert dome]

commodities might still be hosed then

whole point of commodities is to be able to have the 30 minute autoload

[elder arrow]

yeahhhh

[covert dome]

heading to terra, testing the theory if it's location locked or something

but a friend also couldn't autoload so i think its just not working

[elder arrow]

Might need to make an issue council post

[covert dome]

there's an active one still for TDD issues

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-164343

aha

here's one for autoloading: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-182654

[elder arrow]

Ahh fun times

[covert dome]

yup

[covert dome]

k so confirmed, autoloading sales works, it's just auto-loading buying that doesn't

how the hell do you even tell when the sale is done

does this mean they didn't sell in time and now they're full so i can't

looks like a few boxes sold, rest didn't

[covert glacier]

Can you print unrefined construction materials? Or does it only sit in the buffer like mining materials?

[odd steppe]

I believe you can if I’m not mistaken

[civic epoch]

Reclaimer salvage just feels bad now. Only ~500K worth of materials once it gets done processing...71 hours later, and moved twice.

[lime vessel]

No you have to print and refine the boxes to get the final product.

[autumn roost]

can someone tell me right now which commidity runs are good right now, i use the uex website but its way off for me. i run with the intrepid so cargo with 8scu i need to make some money, cause partilium cost 93k per scu and sell at 100k so for sure not worth the risk

[elder arrow]

queue smaller orders less then 24hr or 24hr exactly and refine in pyro,

Make the orders either 24hrs or however long you want, its not a get rich quick it takes a minute to stock up on a lot of cmats

but the good news is unlike mining where its RNG on what youll find,

just find ships munch / rmc
scrap em and you have a consistent source of stuff to feed into refineries

i made 2.3mill from 262scu In pyro i could have earned more if i loaded up and went to Stanton

Rmc is also a nice little bonus if you want to spend the extra 4ish mintues doing that in a reclaimer

[grand trellis]

Is loading the hull c bugged i Heard PPL say in Game they cant load There hull c

[elder arrow]

hull c is probably still bugged

[grand trellis]

Well i was able to sell Yesterday but i didnt do a full route

[wise stump]

Has anyone been able to unload straight from the reclaimer, and if they did can you see only the stuff on the grid or off the grid.
And another question what is the limit of boxes a reclaimer can have? I had boxes dissapear. So there must be a limit.

[mild pumice]

there's an asset limit, it somewhere around 60-80 I believe

as for unloading you should be able to see RMC directly from your reclaimer but you need to unload cmats manually to refine

fwiw I just sold RMC off my Corsair directly at ruin with auto unloading (stashed it there after I couldn't sell before)

[vestal ravine]

That's good to know.

[shut radish]

quick question: what site do you trust more for up to date trading route data? uex or sc trade tools? or is there another?

[autumn roost]

uex but they still need a few days to cellect all data

[vestal ravine]

I mainly use UEX and concentrate on the top 5 "minerals" and the ship is a Gemini. I mix in ROC mining and getting my rep up in bounties.

[main cobalt]

Did u have to take it out the reclaimer and transport it to a refinery and transport it back to a city to sell?

[covert dome]

SC Trade uses the same API

so its exactly the same, they're partnered

i'm having the same problem with showing up to a spot and the commodity is already full

[wise stump]

ill do a count on it next time. I think its more. but I do a count next time.
I ment the cmats, Okey good to know, sad it cant be taken. Specialy at the refinery in stanton.

[weak oyster]

do you do the contracts for reclaimer? for ships

[gaunt terrace]

should i just give up with salvaging at this point?

[fringe torrent]

Only you can answer that

[gaunt terrace]

ive salvaged a few ships then came to checkmate to refine it. but after a week of suffering this is how the game decides to reward me, with a few more errors. salvaging isnt proftiable at all at the moment then i guess

or there are too many errors with the reclaimer

[glass dust]

It will change 3 times over. It feels like cycle where some parts of the SC are not worth for the moment and with next update or two it becomes best thing to do.

[gaunt terrace]

uh... explain more because my brain is not working

youre saying its gonna be really good, but not rn?

or that it can be the best thing

[glass dust]

When salvage started it was ok then was good then too good then broken then good and so on

Same comes for mining and other gameplays when small part of the gameplay is broken it just sucks and it is time to play other game loops or games

[gaunt terrace]

ah i see. well i was thinking ill try trading but the supplies of profitable routes are always very sucked out and theres nothing left... any tips on that in a smaller circle like taurus?

[glass dust]

Cargo missions
bounty hunting
Rock mining
Bunker running

[gaunt terrace]

so trading sucks?

[glass dust]

Since they add cargo missions I didn’t done any trading

[gaunt terrace]

hm alright thankms

[knotty bolt]

Im assuming you mean. "Not as profitable as I would like"? Otherwise I would love to know how you are losing money on it xd

[civic epoch]

Ahh. I'm fairly experienced at salvage, and don't really care much about aeuc. The point is, the same 426 SCU of CM would net ~1M credits with only having to move the boxes once (out of the Reclaimer). Now, that same 426 SCU of CM will net only 50% of the previous value once refined, and you need to move it much more. Reclaimer->Elevator, Elevator->Cargo-Ship, Cargo-Ship->Elevator. Not to mention the refinery time. For a much larger time sink of a game loop than it was, it 'feels' undervalued.

Is it going to stop me from salvaging in the future? Nah. I enjoy crewing a reclaimer (or vulture) and salvaging PVP hot spots, even while active fighting is taking place.

[cedar mauve]

Where's everybody selling RMC?

[gaunt terrace]

im getting 10% of the money i was making beforehand

[knotty bolt]

10%?! Damn. I am getting at least 50%.
Thats a shockingly low number you got

[gaunt terrace]

and sometimes wasting time and not getting money back

[gaunt terrace]

it would be so much better if i could refine with reclaimer, but if i go to checkmate it wont even let me refine

[knotty bolt]

Yeah I see the error. Huh thats strange never seen that one before

[weak oyster]

the reclaimer should be able to refine the CM not this go to station thing we have

[coarse monolith]

hey can anyone verify if they have fixed the hull c bugs/issues that were present in the patch with the hotfix update?

[gaunt terrace]

well, i dont have a hull c but i know that commodity trading works

[coarse monolith]

i meant more for the 700k hauling missions

but its nice to know that trading is working again

[gaunt terrace]

well idk about those

[weak oyster]

huh i got a hauling contract thats 321 su total, went to the elevator and it brought up 854

[lyric viper]

I tried three times yesterday after the patch - in different servers at different times but always at Terra Gateway - it's still giving me the "two comms signal bleeps" and failure to load. (these are the 700k experienced bulk haul missions)

That's only at one station, but I don't imagine it's different at Magnus or Everus.

Anyone have a different experience?

[coarse monolith]

ig as expected;;

prob not getting fixed til 4.4

[lyric viper]

Anyone know if they've fixed the reversed yield/loss where you're supposed to get 70% of Construction Material Rubble but you only get 30% from the Vulture when refined and 15%/85% yield/loss when you're supposed to get 85%/15% yield/loss from the Reclaimer?

[elder arrow]

thats why i recommend doing refinery and salvage in pyro,

you skip all that annoying process and its just (Salvage > reclaimer elevator > Station cargo) you remove the need of using a cargo ship and flying to a refinery in stanton,

Now you can salvage in stanton and fly to pyro or salvage in pyro, im doing both and seeing which one is a higher yield but RN what i've been doing is i accept a ground contract for "Murder hobo here" from HH for 135k and that lets me pay for my salvage contracts and refinery times, its literally just land there kill a guy and leave, though the AA guns make it a tad difficult

[elder arrow]

!tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[elder arrow]

I do not think they reversed that yet,

[long grail]

so uh is hauling or whatever a thing rn?

is it fixed?

[elder arrow]

Hauling contracts work where you load up and deliver,
people have been reporting TDDs are broken to some degree along with autoloading

[long grail]

cant interdict shit anywhere

[elder arrow]

If you cant QT drive, turn your ship on and off with U,
aim at a plant and warp at it

and that should update your drive/location

[past fractal]

So, little tip for Reclaimers.

Without using the cargo hold, you can fit 10 16SCU boxes on grid for 160SCU.

You can have 100 loose items on board. If you hold onto bottles, this can be 100 16SCU boxes for 1,600 SCU.

From here, you can hold 240 SCU in the hopper.

Thus, a "full Reclaimer" of nothing but 16 SCU boxes is 2,000 SCU.

In turn, this is currently 300 SCU of CMATs.

Conversely, you could pick up RMC and do the same, but it would take a very long time to gather 2,000 SCU of RMC

While it takes longer, using the cargo hold and full grid, your full grid is 420SCU. This means, with a full hopper, the max hold of a Reclaimer is 2,260SCU. Do with that what you will.

It all fits by the way. I've maxxed a Reclaimer over a dozen times now

Maxing the Reclaimer only yields 39 extra boxes, but takes more than an extra hour of unloading solo. This is why I opt to just take the 2,000

[elder arrow]

its also good to note, that you shouldnt go above 2000 SCU or keep it around 1,500 instead because boxes will tend to despawn or glitch out depending on stacking method and how well you are at Tetris

you can also store / keep a handful of 8SCU boxes in the smaller cargo hold as well and below the salvage deck, so you can really push it to its limits if you used every square inch

But thats going well above 2k SCU so handle with care

[covert dome]

I've got a feeling that the hull-c is doomed, tbh

i was considering picking it up too

[elder arrow]

Give it a bit they'll fix it/patch it soon hopefully,
I believe theres a lot of issue council posts about it too

[covert dome]

That’s assuming it won’t get replaced with the cargo elevators

but yeah I’m waiting to see if it gets fixed because tbh between that and herc I’d be set for semi afk

[elder arrow]

Yeah i'd honestly go for a herc

more use out of it

[covert dome]

I have the herc

got it this weekend

right when the TDD issues were happening.

[elder arrow]

ahhh

[covert dome]

yup sheer depression

[grand trellis]

the cargo transfer box is really picky isnt it i was right in the middle and it sayed i needet to be fully inside

[quartz mortar]

guys im desperate been flyin around all day looking for a trade route that is both profitable and has stock available and sell location isnt full

ive gone all over pyro and stanton

literally nothing open

i have 3 loads of 700 scu in different stations that i cant sell

cant even buy in most spots

[grand trellis]

maybe titanium

i mean presurized ice is a good trade too but never use a hull c for it

[quartz mortar]

yeah i lost 8 mil trying to do a hull c route before relegating myself to my c2

took my money and wouldnt load it

[grand trellis]

i was thinking of doing titanium with my hull c

[quartz mortar]

dont

you cant load it

also from what i just looked up titanium is only a 100/scu profit that aint gonna cut it lol

[grand trellis]

honestly i dont know anything about trading

but what i know is that not suposed to happen

[covert dome]

making me not wanna get a hull c and stick with my beloved c2

[elder arrow]

fuck the hull C,

embrace chad C2

Im trying to get my Rep up in Pyro so i can do better salvage missions so i can earn more credits to buy a C2, A2, and M2,

why all three? because cowabunga fuck it a starlifter for each mood

either that or i save up a ton of credits to buy a 890 jump to flex on my friends that i wasted my time/effort on such a such ahaha

[leaden imp]

guys there is a solution for hull-c bug? i mean the cargo commening stuck

[elder arrow]

As far as im aware, there isnt a solution

[covert dome]

is 890 jump that bad

[elder arrow]

where do i even begin

the polaris is more worth the time investment because its more useful

[covert dome]

w h a t

[elder arrow]

the 890 jump has a top hanger that cant fit like maybe two ships? at best, not much,
890 is a Origin ship, so not much for combat at all, its a luxury curise ship

you got a bar, lots of pools, barely a SCU gargo space, and yeahhhhh

[covert dome]

LOL

so they released a luxury ship with literally no need for luxury

[covert dome]

Ok but it looks pretty

[elder arrow]

for the longest time it was one of the two largest "Flyable" ships in game, the reclaimer and 890 jump were the only "capital" ships we had

Its a very very old ass ship

[covert dome]

and now you have the idris

and one day the carrack

[elder arrow]

The carrack, idris, polaris, hammerhead, perseus, all sorts of ships now yes

also if im not mistaken the 890 jump is the most costly ship in the game rn at 65 mill

[leaden imp]

fantastic, 16 milions throwned away

[covert dome]

and the Orion if it ever gets out of development hell

[elder arrow]

Orion isnt coming any time soon

[elder arrow]

there has been many many people reporting/complaining that the hull C has issues and bugs rn

You can probably still use it for normal hauling missions? but i dont know the extent of the bugs/issues

[covert dome]

there’s like 6 IC threads but they all got closed to an old one

[leaden imp]

you cant use it anymre

autoload is busted

[elder arrow]

RIP

I'm so glad i didnt buy a hull-C i thought about it given cargo space but i didnt

[leaden imp]

and use the hull c normally right now its impossible

[covert dome]

people are foaming at the mouth about it on the limited posts I saw on Spectrum

[elder arrow]

also for context the 890s price is so high, you can buy two reclaimers

[covert dome]

since when is the carrack in game

[jovial matrix]

the carrack has been ingame for many years

[elder arrow]

the carrack has been in the game for a long time now?

[covert dome]

then why do you get loaner ships when getting it

huh

is that loaner list old

[elder arrow]

Because its IN the game, you get it as a loaner ship

[covert dome]

oh

[elder arrow]

If you bought a percy, you get a perseus as a loaner

[leaden imp]

they will fix it with nyx implementation, when they will implement cargo freight elevator outside of the space stations

[covert dome]

what

oh is there a smaller ship called Perseus too

oh I was thinking of the Kraken

that’s why I’m so confused

[elder arrow]

if you want a cargo ship or something with lots of SCU Space on it,
I'd recommend the following
C2 - for large amounts of cargo
Raft - the easiest ship to load and unload, and decent cargo space.
Or if you want hell.
The caterpillar

[elder arrow]

https://starcitizen.tools/List_of_pledge_vehicles

Heres a list of all ships concept and in game

[leaden imp]

i know

[elder arrow]

pay attention to the "production tab"

[leaden imp]

but feel crazy that i spend 16 milion in 4.3.1 and hull-c worked perfectly

when they put out 4.3.2 gone busted as hell

[covert dome]

There’s enough people complaining about the hull-c that I’m sure they’ll either fix it or give some sort of update

[leaden imp]

they will NOT fix it

[covert dome]

I’m just hoping they fix auto load instead of just auto sell for herc c2

[leaden imp]

after nyx we will need to manually load and unload the hull-c

this will be the solution

im pretty sure about that

[covert dome]

yeah I’m like 90% sure you’re right

[leaden imp]

im pretty upset

also

no mention about hyperion bug

[elder arrow]

are they planning on removing auto loading?

[leaden imp]

why they cant just put a button to open that its crazy

[leaden imp]

from hull series yes

[elder arrow]

Oh thats funny

[leaden imp]

you can either pay for autoloading

[covert dome]

have they confirmed that?

[elder arrow]

So the hull series loses auto loading? what about the other ships?

[leaden imp]

what? the autoloading?

[covert dome]

yeah

[leaden imp]

its confirmed

[covert dome]

bruh

[elder arrow]

Got a post/link to that confirmation? i wanna look into it in more depth

[covert dome]

^

same

If herc loses auto loading for commodities imma be depressed

[elder arrow]

I mean hopefully if we lose auto loading, the pay gets increase

because more work / time for loading up SHIT LOADS of SCU

[covert dome]

especially with the Hercules or the Hull

[elder arrow]

Mhm

[covert dome]

I’m guessing there’s no auto loading for caterpillar hence it’s ass?

[elder arrow]

I mean

its not that hard to load a caterpillar

Just park it on the side without the catwalk, and you can fit in quite a bit of SCU on its grid space

HOWEVER it flys like a brick

[covert dome]

Worse than the raft?

[elder arrow]

Never flown the raft so cant say

[covert dome]

the raft is literally a square

with legs

[elder arrow]

Mhm

Though the caterpillar sucks at taking off, takes a second to get off the ground

[covert dome]

after flying the herc I can never do long distance runs on anything that’s not a mid sized ship

[elder arrow]

yep

[covert dome]

and I haven’t even gotten components to upgrade the engines yet

[covert dome]

I guess it’s a caterpillar not a butterfly so you get what you paid for

[elder arrow]

yep

HOWEVER i did not buy a caterpillar its a loaner ship

one day that little fucker of a caterpillar will turn into a FATERPILLAR

IRONCLAD!

[covert dome]

oh it’s the ironchad

[elder arrow]

yep

[covert dome]

yup knew it

[leaden imp]

mh no, but wwith nyx they will implement cargo freight elevators outside of the space stations

[covert dome]

you got the C2 out of that too right

[elder arrow]

I'm very very very hyper for an ironclad release

[covert dome]

And the hull c

[elder arrow]

fuck nope, you only get a caterpillar

[leaden imp]

there are some alredy in pyro in the ptu

[covert dome]

oh

rip that’s a terrible tradeoff

[elder arrow]

If i had a hull C or a C2 for loaner i'd be flying those instead

[covert dome]

how much is the ironchad

[elder arrow]

i mean ironclad is a drake ship, so it makes sense to get a drake loaner

[covert dome]

the caterpillar isn’t Argo?

damn that’s surprising since it’s so similar to the raft

[elder arrow]

The ironclad is roughly (as of right now, the price will go up) it is: 450 standalone price and 400$ warbond

[elder arrow]

Nooooo the caterpillar is drake

[covert dome]

400$ for a caterpillar is a joke LOL

[elder arrow]

but yes the ironclad when i bought it was roughly 400$
And its going to be released hopefully soon, so the price will go up, maybe by 100$ or more. we're not sure yet

[elder arrow]

I mean i lose the caterpillar once the ironclad is released so its fine

a caterpillar pledge is 330$ btw

or 12 million in game

[covert dome]

what the fuck

who in their right mind

[simple river]

Got the hull D for $350 gets C2 and Hull C for loaner pretty sweet

[elder arrow]

Yes

[covert dome]

maaaaaan

[elder arrow]

For context,
hull-C 4608 SCU
C2 - 696 SCU
Caterpiller - 576 SCU

[covert dome]

the only downside of getting loaners is you lose them when the ship comes out I guess

[elder arrow]

but if we consider other ships for cargo and this is where it gets funny.

C2 - technically holds more on/off grid
Polaris - as well can hold a lot on / off grid, (576 SCU on grid btw)
caterpillar loses in this since you cant store any SCU off grid, its only on grid.

reclaimer holds 420 SCU total, BUUUUUT if you play tetris well enough you can get 2,000 SCU in that fucker

i do not recommend using a reclaimer for cargo hauling

I did it, its not worth it

[covert dome]

2000!?

[elder arrow]

so yeah for anyone interested in cargo hauling or cargo in general
i'd recommend a C2 OR a raft (you can rent a raft for like 70k in game)

[elder arrow]

TETRIS GO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[covert dome]

Using the atlas to load my herc yesterday I was losing my ever loving mind

[elder arrow]

this wasnt the full amount, but this was a about 500 SCU, i stacked a shit ton more boxes as time went on

[covert dome]

whoever designed that thing did not consider sanity

[elder arrow]

the reclaimer is a salvage ship so you print out these 16SCU boxes on deck

[covert dome]

LOL nice

[elder arrow]

Its so fun

[covert dome]

yeah I’ve considered saving up for fortune or reclaimer

[sly ocean]

anyone know what happened to the beginning hauling missions? the ones that get you a bit of rep with red wind or some such. im going through one of those "make a quadrillion units in 30mins" videos and the first hauling mission isnt there

[covert dome]

Red Wind seems to be gone

but I did the beginner mission when the event was going

[elder arrow]

check the date of these videos. if they are older then 2 months they are outdated

[sly ocean]

dang do you know a good alternative? this is my first go with hauling and i dont really know where to start

[mild pumice]

Only Redwind are Pyro and the Master contracts

The others were pulled for now

[sly ocean]

yeah this one is from 4.3 or 4.3.1. thought it wouldnt be that out of date, but here we are

[elder arrow]

open up contracts go to hauling and see whats in there and take a pick

[covert dome]

^

[elder arrow]

nope, there was a few changes in the last patch and now

[covert dome]

sucks that the hull c is so FUBAR right now

[sly ocean]

cool, ill find something to stick in this raft. thanks

[covert dome]

seems like the logical choice to me next for larger cargo runs

[elder arrow]

yeah just read the missions see the rewards where they go, and see about your cargo space

its really just "Plan/try out/ figure out" kinda

Sure youtube guides are helpful but the ones that are like "MAKE MILLIONS IN 10 MINUTES IN SC"
Are cringe and worthless

[covert dome]

Be careful with the multi drop off missions I got bugged on some of those

[elder arrow]

and you'd be damned to know those ones will get patched out in like a few weeks and PVPers/Space bobs will flock the place to attack cargo ships

welcome to hell

[sly ocean]

yeah going for single pickup and drop off

[mild pumice]

These are usually just 1 minute wonder before the exploit gets hotfixed lol

[covert dome]

Red Wind was so good - I’m so sad it’s gone

[mild pumice]

I remember the AV equipment one during IAE I made like 50 million then lost it all to a bug (karma I guess)

[covert dome]

CIG saw you and bugged you out

[elder arrow]

ikr

[elder arrow]

ngl im kinda glad it got patched

because thats ALL everyone did for days / weeks

[covert dome]

yup

those spots got crowded

I would’ve loved a reclaimer to salvage the dead ships sitting on the landings

[elder arrow]

and then you had whole PVP groups flock there because there like fuck these expoliorsss hurrrhurrrrr

I should have done that my self ngl

[mild pumice]

Hopefully they fix up the missions so they have high risk ones with credible pay

[elder arrow]

Ikr

[covert dome]

biggest pain is getting Rep past junior for covalex

[mild pumice]

Remember the first weekend of supply or die? I made like 100mil

[elder arrow]

Damn nice

I've been making a very steady amount of credits so far from pyro

[mild pumice]

CIG got me again by wiping my 890j I bought tho.

[elder arrow]

Im just trying to get the damn HH missions to be ranked up by one or two more ranks so i can do more reclaimer stuff

Might try and level up the bounty contracts a little so i can stack those with salvage work, because ground AA HURTS

[covert dome]

I haven’t dared to go to Pyro yet

[elder arrow]

Pyro has been so safe for me MORE SO then stanton

[covert dome]

The only fighter I have is the Corsair

[mild pumice]

I done the hauling rep grind to master rank to find out the master missions are worse cr/hr than rookie missions

[elder arrow]

Hell i jumped a poor fuck in a mining ship and yoinked everything

[covert dome]

WHAT

is it just not worth doing past juniour or what

[elder arrow]

i do not know

[mild pumice]

Problem is the rewards don't scale well with the volume of cargo and amount of drops to take into consideration loading times

Except the Hull C missions

They're worth doing when they work

Example, master mission pays 400k, drops at 4 locations and has 400scu is 16scu boxes. Takes around an hour to do.

You can stack 6 rookie missions that pay 300k and do them in 30mins

So that's 600/hr vs 400/hr (solo)

Of course you can bring the time down using a crew, which is what you should be doing for bulk hauls but once you split the rewards it's meh

So the 400k mission would take 30mins for 2 people 200k/ea/400/hr. Bad deal still

[covert dome]

that’s actually insane

I gotta figure out what rookie and junior missions I can stack and not get rolled lol

hercules doesn’t feel worth it until it’s long distance

[mild pumice]

Yeah it sucks, the game punishes using a crew. If all players up to a maximum of say 4 got the full pay it'd be worth it

[elder arrow]

Yeah no if they removed that damn "Split pay" shit, THEN EVERYONE would love to crew together saves time and people work together

i wouldnt mind being a turret gunner to a huge capital ship then, because i know im getting paid my time/work doing ERTS

[covert dome]

yeah they need to make it worth it to crew

[elder arrow]

But nooooooo you accept a 175k pay contract guess what that gets split the more people you have

[covert dome]

although weirdly the Herc only has two seats

which is weird considering it’s made for cargo

I guess you could load on an Ursa and hostage people on it

[elder arrow]

you'd have people in the below deck doing cargo

[mild pumice]

It will need engineering, turret manned, etc
Has 4 beds? Or 2?

[elder arrow]

the two seats are the "pilots" not crew

[elder arrow]

what the C2?

[mild pumice]

Yeah

[covert dome]

C2 has more spots for non pilots?

[elder arrow]

Pilot, engi, one or two gunners, then two idiots for cargo sorting and loading etc. so roughly 4-6 people

[elder arrow]

yeah?

All multicrew ships are like that

you dont need an all pilot crew

[covert dome]

the stats lied and said 2

[mild pumice]

Minimum 2*

[elder arrow]

^

Minimum isnt maximum

the C8R pieces is 1 crew,

BUT YOU CAN FIT 20 people in a normal pieces

[mild pumice]

Idris is best cargo ship tho. Solo friendly too

[elder arrow]

its so fun having a can of tuna of people in a small ship

[elder arrow]

shut

spew your evil elsewhere

[covert dome]

My buddy has an idris

[mild pumice]

I used to do rescues in my 100i and told them to sit on the bed

[elder arrow]

I've been doing rescues in the stinger

and its so funny hearing "Alien noises" and people going "Ew wtf is this"

[covert dome]

How’s the stinger feel

[mild pumice]

They lucky I don't make them go in the cupboard

[mild pumice]

Stingy

[elder arrow]

slow turns, made out of paper, and you need all ballastics on the fucker to hope to kill someone before they kill you

but i love it regardless

[covert dome]

I hate English because I read that twice with two different contexts

[mild pumice]

Looking forward to trying it at IAE

I love English where a word can mean many things but German can make a word for a whole sentence

[elder arrow]

I've been learning german slowly and damn is it tripping me up about that ONE WORD many things

Like i forget what it was, but there was a word that was literally "And also" combined and it was tripping me up so badly

[mild pumice]

My favourite language moment, I was in a cafe in France with some backpackers and they asked how to get the bill, I jokingly said 'le bill' and they believed me

[elder arrow]

[mild pumice]

There's a word, I can't remember it but it means I love you and hate you all at the same time!

[elder arrow]

HUH

Wonderful

i really wanna do more contract/farming in star citizen and salvage rn since i wanna get other ships and have fun

but i wanna finish more 3d art ahh

[mild pumice]

Look up words with no English translation for the best

[elder arrow]

[mild pumice]

Sorry for the off topic

[elder arrow]

Alls good!

[mild pumice]

Back on topic
.. I'm looking forward to new hauling routes with nyx

[elder arrow]

we're a dying profession in this game either way

[mild pumice]

I hope they don't fuck it up

[elder arrow]

they'll fuck it up

they always fuck it somehow

this patch was awful in every way and form, because THEY broke so much

[mild pumice]

I lolz at how they put interstellar hauling as a new feature when it's already in

Master missions between Stanton and Pyro Gateway

[elder arrow]

Yeah dont we already do that?

[mild pumice]

Yeah

Don't even know what missions they have put in already

[elder arrow]

Im hoping its something that pays EASILY 2million a run, but its so mind numblingly painful to do

because you have to go from nyx, through pyro, to stanton

[mild pumice]

I hope interdiction isn't a death sentence tho

[elder arrow]

The warpgate we're getting in stanton to nyx is "Temporary"

[elder arrow]

Ikr

[mild pumice]

Although you'll probably be able to just hit U when you see the message to avoid it

[elder arrow]

DId not know that

saving that little bit of info

[jovial matrix]

they're supposed to be missions that actually take you through the jump gates, so picking up in stanton and dropping off in nyx, for example

[mild pumice]

Yeah when the warning comes up just power down and QT round it

Obviously yo gotta be paying attention

If you're like me you'll be scrolling discord

[elder arrow]

Yeeep

[mild pumice]

Yes, we have those now.

Pick up at Stanton Gateway and drop at Pyro Gateway (both ways)

They unlock at Redwind Master Rank

Just nobody knows because getting master rank in Pyro is almost impossible if you don't exploit the rep bug

[jovial matrix]

no? you're taking cargo between the jumpgates, but your still staying in stanton or pyro, not crossing into the other system

these would take you from stanton, through the jumpgate into pyro/nyx, and vice versa

[mild pumice]

No you pick up at pyro gateway (Stanton), and deliver to Stanton Gateway (Pyro) so through the jump point

They unlock at Redwind Master Rank, pay 400k

[jovial matrix]

Ah ok, I dont have redwind rep, so I havent seen those before

[mild pumice]

Easy money in Hull C

[jovial matrix]

were they introduced in 4.3.2?

[mild pumice]

You used to be able to stack 2 but the second doesn't load now

[mild pumice]

Nope, they've been around since forever just nobody knows because master rep in pyro is impossible

Unless you cheat

Or unless you grind shit missions for 2000hrs

[jovial matrix]

yeah that makes sense why I havent heard about them

[sly ocean]

my atlas is stuck on my raft.. anyone know how i can get it off the cargo grid?

[covert dome]

blow the ship and the atlas up

that’s usually my solution

how tf did you get it stuck in the cargo grid tho

[pearl juniper]

tractor beam it up there. You didn't know you could carry an atls on a raft? Best thing ever

[covert dome]

nah i use the raft's tractor beam for everything

[pearl juniper]

sometimes they seem stuck when trying to get them off, but pull on it for a minute and it will come off in my experience

yeah, raft tractor beam is good. Atls is faster though

[covert dome]

big caveat is if you can use it well

i am sure it took me 75% longer using an ATLS than if i could use my maxlift to move 32scu boxes yesterday

could not for the life of me figure it out

[pearl juniper]

what was giving you trouble? Trick is to be quick with it. Get the placement hologram in position before the box even gets to you and click to send it there. Also position yourself sideways and use free look to look to one side to pick things up, and the other side to place them.

[covert dome]

yeah it was getting it up the ramp, the box would get stuck and fly everywhere

[red granite]

tap Z

[covert dome]

was using Z as well

[pearl juniper]

ahh. Loading a C2?

[covert dome]

yeah

how'd you know

[pearl juniper]

yeah, they kinda suck for that. They are awesome with the raft with the overhead grid though

[red granite]

c2 is tough, i sat in the c2 with atls

[pearl juniper]

because the ramp is 400 yards long and you can't see shit from the ground 🙂

[red granite]

yeah ^

[covert dome]

i've had to with commodity autoloading being borked

i can offload no problem with autoload, but onloading is still fucked at TDDs

sucks because as i've said as a broken record now i got this thing to do commodity runs this weekend 🙁

i have as of yet to use it for anything else though other than flying around

[atomic apex]

guys i cant scan any rock with atls geo. is there any solution? or is it totally bugged?

[lime vessel]

Still buggy

[wise stump]

So 95 boxes is the max of a reclaimer take of boxes not on a grid higher than that it starts to dissappear.

HH missions are worth till the 50 k mission at senior contactor. The 80 sometimes has no marker. The 120k the only ship worth is the reclaimer. And the 150k mission is a total let down. It says in the mission a convoy. U get to fight 1 hammerhead and have to salvage 1 freelancer or Connie. The mission is bugged and a huge let down in ships to get.

While the 50k mission gives you 2 ships and often they are hammerhead, c2, m2, a2, starfarer. And they have various amounts of gold, scrap, iron, food in there. The gold and scrap is great sometimes its over a mil just on the cargo plus ships for salvage.

The 120k the reclaimer is okey lots to salvage but the cargo distilled spirits only a 120 to 140k worth... the other ship u can get is Carrack and caterpillar. Carrack getting boxes out are a pain plus its again only distilled spirits. And the caterpillar is the worst 80k of scu and then again distilled spirits. What a huge let down. They can fix these missions.
I can remember the 150k mission had many big ships and some ship came to attack you what's great for an event. Now 2 ships. And on top on that mission u need to defend a ship that is not even showing where it is. Even if you kill the hammerhead after a while you hear over the radio a scream and u fail the mission..

[elder arrow]

These are from the Merc contracts right?

So your recommendation is doing the 50k bounty mission?

Or are these salvage contracts?

[wise stump]

No these are salvage missions

[elder arrow]

Gotcha