industrial-professions

[jagged nest]

ah same-ish question with Bloodaxe here

[olive gull]

you can also rent a Taurus at New Babbage, or a C1, not all the RAFT's cargo will be gold, considere yourself lucky with 30-50 scus

[spare quarry]

If I’m not just grabbing gold what other loot is worth picking up I was under the impression most cargo is pretty worthless?

[olive gull]

Taranite... Scrap mats sell good enough
Price check of whatever here: https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer

Keep pinging in Scanning mode, look for high value signals, as 40k, 50k or so, the bigger the better

Ship's signal will have a particular icon, something like this

[small galleon]

What does Senior rank hauling contracts look like right now?

What can I do with a SL Max

[mild pumice]

They are 330-380scu on average, best done with a Caterpillar as they're 16scu boxes and multiple drops which makes compartments useful.

[mild pumice]

SL Max can do up to around 280-300scu with some off grid, depending on the mission and how many 16scu boxes, there's a few missions that go between LEO and LZ that fit well

I'd avoid the missions that have dark colour boxes as they tend to get stuck in the SL Max as they pack too tightly

[small galleon]

Can I accomodate senior rank with the SL?

[mild pumice]

No because as I sad the maximum you can fit is around 300scu and the missions start at 330scu

As they're 16scu boxes they physically will not all fit no matter how you try.

[small galleon]

Ah bummer! Thanks brother

How is mining nowadays? Better place before 4.0?

[mild pumice]

I don't mine sorry

[small galleon]

Thanks!

[random patrol]

Mining is how I make 90% of my $...I wasnt here for 4.0 though so I cant compare.

[small galleon]

Whats the time and payout look like right now? Prospector

[vestal ravine]

Hello, The best salvage contracts I know in Stanton are the Unverified Tar Pits mission giver around Crusader. There are 4 ships offered a Prospector, a Caterpillar, a Gemini and a Hammerhead. The Gemini is borked you shoot off the fuel pods then get CM from the main hull. The Hammerheads are a bit rare. You could re-roll via server jumps and try to get a Hammerhead. Next best is asking in chat if someone can donate a bigger ship. Or hop around the OM markers scanning for abandoned ships. Good luck.

[jovial matrix]

just so you know, the starfarer's have been fixed and you can actually scrape them now

[warm totem]

so, following up on mining issues where the rocks don't stream in - I have found that flying away and back in again sometimes helps but for the most part I just change server locations, like EU or ASIA and see if it's happening there. Maybe join in on a friend in a low pop and try to pay attnetion to the shard name so your not going right back into the same tired server!

[spice shell]

That makes sense, too. I never try that because I'm in a Golem, so bed logging isn't an option. Good to know, however, because that's not always true. Than kyou for sharing!

[remote willow]

If your refering to players "donating ships" meaning letting players salvage them while they file an insurance claim you're wasting your time. CIG Has nerfed this into the grave.

If you're salvaging in a Vulture or Fortune panels are the easy way to go. Get boring after a bit but you wont have to hunt them as hard as you would ships.

Some of the bigger mission chains spawn big ships you can defeat and then Salvage, but you gotta weigh in how much time it takes to kill them and then bring out a salvager to whether or not thats worth it.

[steady swallow]

Yeah the Unverified missions for Salvage are great, easy AUEC $ making for a Reclaimer owner. Yes the Starfarer salvage has been fixed BUT once in a while a small bug might pop up and lets say to you take the HH mission..guess what now a Cat appears instead. It is a hicup BUT you can cancel it and retry if the HH comes up again to see if it really spawns the HH to salvage.

[random patrol]

Depends on the ore you're mining and where you're mining it. 50scu of taranite and bexlite got me over 500k and that was just with 2 runs in a prospector.

[weary depot]

Is there some personal storage in the Mole ?

[spare cloud]

No

[jagged nest]

Thank youuu!

[vestal ravine]

Aokay. The Starfarer and HH have a lot of RMC...

[jagged nest]

Yeah and we used to be able to just get them via 50k buy in salvage contracts but not anymore

[frozen sable]

I find it most profitable to just jump around mining stations for abandoned ships, usually find one at every one and constantly turn out 50-100 SCU of RMC per session and keep dumping it into a nearby station to go back out and continue until I clear everything out over 2-3 days, I don’t even bother with the CM. End up with a few mil after.

No costs for this either

[remote willow]

The only caution I would give about that is that depending on the server you might stumble across an Idris or Polaris That might one-shot you on a whim.
(It's happened to me more than once)

If you do mine or salvage in those areas especially around Yela, keep your wits about you

[frozen sable]

Definitely, haven’t encounter it yet, but it’s bound to happen soon lol. My bad luck usually is coming in to sell and getting killed by players at OM points around the planet

[analog patrol]

Ooof. Try and avoid OM's if you can honestly.

[random patrol]

OM's bad

[remote willow]

Warp to the space station and then to the planet

[random patrol]

You can QT out to another location (not an OM) and stop midway or whenever...then change direction. I do it a lot when im going to a moon etc so I dont goto the planet first...etc

[frozen sable]

Pyro to Stanton trade routes worth it solo? Assuming im hauling 300-600 SCU at a time.

[slate spruce]

Depends on what you're hauling. If you go for single buy+sell (like methane from Gaslight to Arc L2), then probably not. If you take time to gather multiple smaller volumes (Neon, e'tam, altru, widow) and ferry it all at once to Stanton, then you can earn pretty good money - but with bigger risk.

[wanton crater]

question, can you fracture a large ship with multiple vultures or only a reclaimer is able to do large ships? ( cuz it defo would save alot of money than buying a reclaimer )

[coarse ember]

only reclaimer can do large ships, max vulture can do is a mercury star-runner iirc

[wanton crater]

damn, been told salvage is alot of money like 1m an hour or something, and i salvaged the hull of a polaris and only gotten 32 boxes so 300K ish which took me 2 hours to do money, unless im doing something really wrong

[sharp swift]

Currently, salvage is RMC-focused unless you have a Reclaimer. Make sure you are using Abrade modules and not Cinch or Trawler.

The other factor that you may be factoring in and others are not is time. Videos like to focus solely on time spent scraping, while you may be judging your income based on time played, to include flying, searching, stacking, selling, etc.

[remote willow]

Was it a player controlled or owned ship?

[wanton crater]

ah okay, yeah was using the cinch

[wanton crater]

player owned i think, it was just laying around in space went in to disable to the shield and power

[sharp swift]

There is a short list of ships that are spawned in by the game for salvaging purposes, that list expands slightly with contracts/missions. Outside of those, it was probably abandoned by a player like the Polaris probablyh was. I'm not sure why 12ninjas asked that unless it was just idle curiousity. There isn't a difference in RMC gain AFAIK, but I haven't been the most avid salvager lately

[remote willow]

That's why, CIG nerfed salvaging player owned ships

[remote willow]

You get significantly less salvage from such ships. I think I got less than 300 from salvaging one Idris and two Polaris. I think I spent like 6 hours on it. Talk about a wasted night

[wanton crater]

ahhh damn, so i guess no point salvaging ships lying about...

[remote willow]

I don't know how it's affected by gamer rules because that wasn't around as a system when I did this

I also don't know how long that takes for a ship to be abandoned to that point or if it matters at all

I do know however exactly where The ships I salvaged came from. Which would be me and a friend

[onyx trench]

They become game rules once the owner claims the ship at an asop terminal and become 'abandoned'

[urban saddle]

Can someone tell me if not being able to attach a tractor beam but being able to attach the mining beam is a big and if so how can I get this to work or a multi tool that already has a tractor beam??

[olive gull]

• Press I to open the Personal Inventory
• Drag the tractor attach from your bag to your Multitool on your leg, you should see a glowing port where it will attach to.
  if it had already a module attached of whatever kind, the old one will end in your bag.
• get out of inventory and try the tractor beam.

Alternatively, while having the multitool at ready, press J to customize it, but on my experience this works only half of the times

[urban saddle]

Ok when I get home I’ll try again it just seems to be broken which sucks cause then I gotta like have an in game friend to move my cargo lol

[vague geode]

For a rookie rank hauler what covalex missions give the most rep?

[austere canyon]

where would be a good place to take my prospector for some mining

[random patrol]

Clio in microtech is a good moon to start on. Id also suggest Calliope

[austere canyon]

i heard you can find quantanium in stanton'

where do i find that

[random patrol]

If I knew exactly where to "find" it then id be rich....Its like anything else in the game....its a crap shoot

You can also check here for possible ore locations: https://regolith.rocks/survey/ores

[lofty verge]

yo guys has there been any new meta things to go on with vulture loadouts?

havent salvaged in forever

[olive gull]

replace the scrapping modules for Abrades... and find something to srap
that's it

[slate spruce]

All missions of same level give the same amount of rep. So it's best to stack multiple small ones with the same origin + destination.

[hollow sedge]

hows everyone feeling about rmc nerf

[jade cape]

they shouldnt of nerf'd it that bad

[hollow sedge]

anyone gonna still salvage?

seems pointless

[jade cape]

2.7k at orison... mining will be the main focus prolly

[spice shell]

What did they drop it down to?

[hollow sedge]

2200

[spice shell]

Dude, that's terrible. If they nerfed the profit and changed nothing else, salvaging is a total waste of time.

[viral harbor]

yea they gotta be planning somethn cause whyy lol

[floral lichen]

Could it have been an accident?

[hollow sedge]

CIG has nerfed RMC into the ground before

When they want us to do something else

[floral lichen]

Sigh

Melted my vulture

I spent up until the bitter end last night scraping haha

[wise stump]

I would assume its a setup for next patch crafting or a use for the RMC

Otherwise we have to put salvage on hold for a make money profession. To be honest I rather have salvage be useful to make, repair or find good parts to give to my org than money. If I want money I go hauling missions

[oblique sedge]

Small PSA on Redwind Delivery Missions on MT - looks like missile turrets are active at the 19-02 distribution centre. Had to get out of Dodge.

[remote willow]

I thought they were going to introduce rearm refuel and repair this patch but I guess it got pushed back at some point.

I suppose whenever they integrate that the fuel for at least the repair functionality would be RMC or CM or both.
Maybe that would function to resupply the weapons temporarily until they develop arms and ammo stored on ships

[wise stump]

I would love some ammo crafting, even the medical gel casings. But make it so if you make like fuses, or ammo. I want this ammo 1000 of them and a box comes out with the 1000 ammo. Not 1 at a time haha

[pearl juniper]

I believe when they talked about it they said "for a future patch"

This year though, and they said there's an event that requires the mechanic

[remote willow]

Yeah, I misremembered from the q&a

[wise stump]

I only heard that for like the polaris and idris. Would be cool with the actually repair and rearm ships

[pearl juniper]

Those are the only ships with hangars at this point. Well maybe it will work on the 890 as well

[remote willow]

I've heard mention of the Star lancer TAC for its snub fighter as well

[pearl juniper]

Oh damn, forgot about that one

[remote willow]

It's technically a hangar

[pearl juniper]

Yeah, for sure

[umbral ember]

salvage.. dead?

[unique ridge]

rmc is

cmat is still the same

[umbral ember]

nice

I do cmat

[unique ridge]

yeah if you're in a reclaimer, unless you were scrapin, nothing changes

vulture lookin kinda dead though lol

unless you just use your vulture to do cargo missions or something lol

[umbral ember]

I do cmat in vulture :(

easier to unload

[spare cloud]

[crisp iron]

For prospector mining, is there a generally agreed on best generalist mining head/gadget I should acquire? Returning to the game and getting my footing with some chill mining runs to build up a funds base

[remote willow]

It's all in how you prefer to mine

Active or passive

Which of its mini games do you find easier or preferable and such

[spare cloud]

Helix head.
For the modules, depends if you want comfort with green zone but not crack some larger rocks, or go full power with active module like Surge

[crisp iron]

Thanks! I might start with comfort while I learn the ropes before moving onto surge. I don't need maximum value full speed ahead right away

[remote willow]

I prefer passive as well, if a rock's too big to crack move on to another. Plenty of rocks in the verse

[pearl juniper]

Also the problem with setting up a prospector to crack the biggest rocks possible is you usually end up with rocks greater than 10k after the split. Which means you need to crack them again, which can be very difficult with your high power laser.

[rugged warren]

I'm loving the new Combat Citizen updates 😁

[spare cloud]

Try Rieger-C3 + Focus III then 👌

[tight marlin]

How's the salvage meta these days? My buddy and I have a reclaimer and are curious if it's better than it was 6-7 months ago

[jade cape]

RMC got reduced to 2500 +/- per SCU from 10,500 +/- so back to crunch and sell CM now and dont bother with RMC

[tight marlin]

ugh, bummer

[mild cloud]

So do you guys think this rmc price drop is permanent or a oops? Wondering if it's with having my vulture anymore

[jade cape]

i dont think its perma or a oopsie, could be trying to discourage the gameplay so players do other activities

[tight marlin]

what does CM go for?

[jade cape]

i wouldnt make a decision to trade ships just yet

2k ish

[olive gull]

meh, CM pays even less than RMC.... i wont get out of my bed for miserable 100k...

[jade cape]

its a pain to sell tho bc it doesnt have anough buying quanitiy at TDD's

[crisp iron]

I've heard there's locations still buying rmc at higher values. Only heard new Babbage specifically named though

[jade cape]

i dont disagree just trying to help someone that asked a question

[mild cloud]

So can the vulture collect cm? I'm just getting back to playing as of last week

[jade cape]

best to check TDD's yourself before making any real investments or time commitments

[olive gull]

can but you have to find a ship, not from the missions tho, cuz that will reduce your gain to almost nothing

[jade cape]

yes

[crisp iron]

Absolutely

[tight marlin]

yeah, looking at trade tools, you can sell CM for 2415 at ARC-L1, vs selling RMC for 2953 to some farm

looks like it makes way more sense time/value

[jade cape]

and CM is much less time to collect and crunching a hammer head is more than you can carry in fill station

[tight marlin]

yeah, scraping tickles my autism a bit because it's fun to watch, but if it's not worth the money anymore, crunching makes more sense

[rigid garden]

This gives me depression

[remote willow]

insertwalterwhitefallsdowngaspingmeme

[tight marlin]

what item is that?

[rigid garden]

Rcm

[jade cape]

i dont think SC trade tools is very accurate atm

[quiet night]

whats the work around for a hull c when it tells me i must be stationary within the area and i am but it wont load, getting in and out the seat moves the bar a tiny amount -.-

[remote willow]

It's on par with what most people are saying

[tight marlin]

huh....

[rigid garden]

That buying not selling

[tight marlin]

ohhhhhh

so basically no way to make money on it by buying and selling, lol

[short tapir]

I haven't tried it yet but did they really nerf salvage around 75%? Just picked it up in the chatter

Edit: moved it to the correct channel

[jade cape]

Yes it’s true

[short tapir]

Damn that doesn't really make it worth the time it takes...

I wonder what they are pushing us to do to make good money this time (usually they nerf what they dont want us "test"

[pearl juniper]

either that or they are planning salvage changes soon so they want people to flood back to it when it gets boosted back to "normal" levels after being nerfed for a couple of months.

[cerulean lichen]

So how was that armor for the winning resource drive team determined? Did you just need to reach tier 5 in any one corp or all 4?

[pearl juniper]

you had to get tier 5 with Hurston

also, they have the "repair in ship hangars, if you have RMC on the ship cargo grid" mechanic coming "soon". And they said something about an upcoming event that requires that mechanic. So maybe an event is coming with a salvage component to it that they are prepping for?

[cerulean lichen]

Ok. I thought it was get tier 5 with any one of them to get the black armor but the winning faction got the logo on it. So if you got crusader tier 5 you’d get a back suit but with Hurston logo on it

[remote willow]

That's what I'm thinking

[onyx trench]

You wouldn't get the final award unless you got tier5 with hurston. It was pushed out last night.

[cerulean lichen]

Ah yep then I completely misread how the final reward works.

Well at least I like my tier 5 microtech rewards😅

[unique ridge]

errybody calm tf down now

[tight marlin]

make me, what are they changing?

[unique ridge]

maybe they're making rmc less lol

[tight marlin]

😬

[velvet shoal]

Don't give them ideas.

[crisp iron]

"75% was a typo, we meant 90% reduction. Sorry for the confusion."

[unique ridge]

i wonder how many people melted their vultures already lol

[random patrol]

It probably didnt occur to them that it might have been a bug....and wait until at least a WHOLE DAY after the patch to melt their ship(s)

[cold niche]

Is the bug alredy fixed or where can i look that up?

[wise stump]

people melting there vulture after 1 day, they are no salvagers 🙂

this is star citizen, its needs fixes for fixes 🙂

[tight marlin]

boy i didn't think about this... but the reclaimer does not have a great way to unload cargo, does it, lol

[wise stump]

no you need to use the back shoot. 1 drop it on there and another person go's to the cockpit and keep opening and closing all doors

[tight marlin]

lmfao

hopefully they rework that... but i doubt it

[wise stump]

Its the pooping methode it looks like the reclaimer is pooping boxes from the outside

well people have been asking on live streams for many many times.

They did a few changes not so long ago. They removed the hanging chains in the salvage processing room. And added the defense turrets around the ship.
My thought was when they made these changes, why couldnt they have fixed that back door. So many would be so happy with that change

just slide that door into the ship or make it go open all the way.

[tight marlin]

yeah.... 420scu.... and no easily accessible hold

[wise stump]

welcome to the rest of the reclaimer owners pain.

[tight marlin]

are you team reclaimer too?

[wise stump]

yeah offcourse

[tight marlin]

i love the ship, it's such a grimy beast, but yeah... it seems like they forgot about their plans for cargo when they designed it

and to be fair, i did too when i bought it

[wise stump]

my ship loadout is all about salvage.
From Towing to salvage to merchantman to sell parts. to crucible to repair ships

When they designed it, they made it most likely only for the wow factor

[tight marlin]

it's a pretty old ship concept right?

[wise stump]

jup

it was a dead ship for a long time

just eye candy to look at.

It was even so, it was hard to get into space. specially at microtech

[tight marlin]

yeah, my buddy bought connie phoenix and i got the reclaimer.... i waited much longer to have something to fly, lol

[wise stump]

I could not even go up because the wind was blowing me down

[tight marlin]

yep, i started playing again a day or two ago and almost crashed on area18 because i didn't give it enough thrust to get out of atmo

gotta use vtol i figure

[wise stump]

haha

yes

all salvagers are waiting for the next thing in the reclaimer. so rework or drones. able to dock at spacestations. able to break big ships again

[tight marlin]

wait....

you can't cronch big ships anymore????

[wise stump]

not have like a polaris in 1 big chunk

some parts break into like almost the whole ship. so when u munch it you lose so much CM

[tight marlin]

ughhhhh

[wise stump]

so for example the starfarer. the cockpit breaks and the rest of the ship the other part. and that part also often bugs out. so you only have the small part of the cockpit to munch.
And when u can much it its like a 500 or 600 scu part. would be great to break it into chunks to fill yours reclaimer couple of times.

[tight marlin]

and what is the price now... 1.2k? lol

[dusk wasp]

wait that works? with 8 and 16 boxes? cuz normally they dont fit and youd need to use small boxes down the hatch

[wise stump]

U can use the 16 scu

Just put them flat on there and open and close

U can unload a full load in 10 minutes. After grab a atls. Stand near the elevator press z so you dont have to turn with the atls and click click

[ionic topaz]

Any good trade/hauling focused orgs?

[sonic fiber]

Guess vulture is pointless now

[jade cape]

prices are back to normal

[jovial matrix]

back out of the square and then go back in, doing that once or twice will usually fix it. If that doesnt work, do a short jump away from the station and jump back in. Request a new square, and maybe try backing in and out a couple times if its still not working. If you are unloading and all of that still wont get it to register, then wait out the 10 minute timer on the square, and request a new one. If none of that works, I'd claim the ship and server hop, even if you had cargo to unload

[small galleon]

Wait so the RMC price decrease was a bug?

[jade cape]

thats what CIG says

[wise stump]

Funny how many gotten rid of their salvage ship haha

Man what are those advice for the hull c. I have no issues. Just line your self with the station. And go in. Just give the forward, back or any strafe while in the box. And come to a halt. Sometimes just switch between cockpitview and outside. You dont need to jump away wait 10 minutes.
I did 5 hauls yesterday and it took me like under a minute to get it going with what I do.

[jovial matrix]

Most of the time I don't have any issues with it either, but when I do, those are the steps I go through to get around it. I was just trying to be helpful 🤷

[quiet night]

Thank you i shall try that today if i have the same issues

[quiet night]

I'd have pledged for one long ago if it didn't do this when ever I use one. I got one in game yesterday and within 3 runs i had the above issue mutiple times so i am going to persevere with it and see if I can make it work. If not it will save me wasting my store credit on one during iae

[wise stump]

Sorry karma, didn't mean it in a mean way. Its just i never heard of those steps and not really needed. But nice you are trying to help

[jovial matrix]

its ok, no offense taken

[wise stump]

I hope we get some more salvage gameplay. I would love to craft some more usefull items, and salvage fuel to refuel and rearm.
Glad they fixed the pricing on the RMC thank god

[knotty bolt]

I mean the RMc is still a lot lower, but I can live with 80% of the previous price, vs 80% reduction of the previous price
Thats still fully viable, and also could push people to potentially pick up more CMAT than before, now that its like 25-30% of the value instead of 20-25%

[sonic fiber]

Still needs a lot of work. I hope one day they will work on the economy

[mild pumice]

Apparently there's an economy team

[sonic fiber]

Sure there is 🙂

[remote willow]

They're building the foundations for the economy to work. ~_~

[wise stump]

Cm is okey to pick up just hard to sell. Its always sold out

[royal spear]

I haven't mined since 3.x and was thinking of getting into some geo mining.. is it possible to mine Caranite? I'm struggling to find info online

[spare cloud]

Yes, but Caranite is only found in Hathor caves.

[royal spear]

hmm are any other gems worth mining?

[frozen sable]

Oh nice, I was so frustrated when I heard RMC profits was nerfed, glad it’s back to normal.

[jade cape]

Last nights sale price at orison was 8k ish so not totally normal but much better than 2.5k

[random patrol]

Hadanite is over 500k per 1scu...just need to find a few patches

[sonic fiber]

That's 100 gems?

[spare cloud]

1000

[random patrol]

Thats why I said a "few patches" of it

[spare cloud]

Close but not quite #ground-combat-and-medical

[crisp iron]

Okay, I'm trying to mine but my charge meter is frequently becoming invisible, is that just a bug right now?

I can fix it by storing/retrieving but it's annoying having to just respawn every other rock I check

[spare cloud]

What color is the rock outlined with when that happens ?
If it's purple that means you can just extract it already and there's no charge meter

Or is this happening suddenly while mining a same rock ?

[north knot]

is there a work around for my Golem not letting me into the seat? The hatch opens but no option to get in?

Only has the option to "Open Door"

[crisp iron]

I hadn't checked to see if it was already purple that might be what's happening. I'll take a look next time I encounter it

[crisp iron]

Yea looks like I was probably just dumb haha

[limber marsh]

i accidentally picked up large contracts overlapping with eachother in a hull c and the game loaded cargo before unloading my delivery.... does anyone have any tips on how i can fix it?

[mild pumice]

Hull C isn't working well with multiple contracts, I guess you can try dropping the other and and coming back but it might just 'not work'

[tight bear]

hi! i recently got a vulture, and hated it. It barely paid anything! A while ago, i enjoyed cargo hauling, and was wondering how profitable it might be? I have roughly 250 dollars in store credit that i can use to get a ship. Is it worth waiting for the starlancer MAX? i like the Hull-A, but not really a fan of the connies.

[jade cape]

Raft is a good cargo hauler to start with

[tight bear]

I didn't know the raft had physicalised cargo yet

[young basin]

its cargo grid was also buffed to 192 from 96

[tight bear]

oh wow.

thats news

[royal spear]

yep raft is bae

it does handle like a wet turd rolling uphill when fully loaded though

[spice shell]

Jesus. Can you imagine going into work for 10 years and not actually delivering anything to your customers? Amazing.

[regal sun]

Does the MSR drug hold work yet? IE Blocks scans from seeing whats in there?

[wise stump]

Is the price been put back or is it still lowered?

[jade cape]

For RMC?

[wise stump]

Yeah. Before patch orison was like 10ish. Is it still the same or did they perform it abit

[jade cape]

8k at orison now

[wise stump]

Okey and at orison? Haha you corrected it

[jade cape]

lol

[wise stump]

Autocorrect from orison to prison i had the same haha

[wraith current]

Anyone know if there are rookie hauling missions on all planets

Those that pay 117k

[tight bear]

Is trading or hauling more profitable at the moment?

[royal spear]

Given that you can lose all your money to a bug with trading, hauling 100%.

No risk, not your cargo.

[tight bear]

I see, thank you!

[tender quiver]

Which refinery method is the most profitable?

[pearl juniper]

the cheapest one

[oblique sedge]

Red wind.

Hurston and microtech

[wraith current]

You know if MT is less crowded

[oblique sedge]

MT 34 the other one has active turrets

Wasn’t bad yesterday

[wraith current]

I'll check it out, hurston has been packed every time ive been there

[oblique sedge]

Cool - I was pootling around on the Aus server, was fine.

[astral oasis]

QUESTION: if i take off my ore pods and replace them, (full of quant) will they still have a timer ?

[spare cloud]

The pods with quant will. Not your ship. You'll be safe when you send the pods down the freight elevator.

[astral oasis]

okay

[leaden bane]

so, whats the new money maker loop??

[spare cloud]

Nothing new.

[leaden bane]

okay thanks

[cursive oriole]

It is my understanding that the Hull C can auto load and unload cargo for it's contract missions, what other ships can do that?

[young basin]

none

[cursive oriole]

Sad, figured as much tho. Guess I'll save to buy a Hull C in game then

[crisp iron]

So I sold some RMC, moved it to the elevator as instructed, and sent it down to the warehouse but the terminal just says "Transfer to cargo deck requried" with no other options, and the RMC appears to be gone (I did not get paid, of course). What do I do? Just eat the loss?

more research, I just appear to be cooked. Oh well, SC learning curve

[spare cloud]

Send down freight elevator before reaching to the trading terminal.

[crisp iron]

The lesson has been learned v_v

[subtle valley]

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[upper fox]

Thanks

[subtle valley]

I assume this is the proper way to ping you guys 🙂

[onyx trench]

Does anybody know if you can autoload refinery orders to a stored Polaris and then call it up at a refinery? It would appear at the loading dock isntead of in a hangar - would it then appear with the cargo onboard?

[brisk sand]

where can u find drake mining pods in pyro

[crisp iron]

I don't know if it works for a Polaris specifically but I do that with my MSR,.although I've seen warnings it's buggy

[small galleon]

Are Red Wind contracts based on location?

[onyx trench]

So autoloading to a Polaris does work (did it at CRU-L1) with caveats.

• Unlike commodity trading, refinery autoloading doesn't give you the indicator that it takes time to load. But it DOES take time. We loaded a test load of a few SCU of gold and Bexalite then retrieved the ship and confirmed it was all there. Then, we loaded 4 loads of about 30 SCU of Quant each. Called up the ship and confirmed that some new crates were on the grid but far from what we were expecting. Panicked a little but then stored the ship and checked again after a few minutes. When we retrieved the ship again, everything was there and accounted for.

Someone also had issues with autoloading a C2 at CRU-L1. The cargo didn't show up the first time he retrieved his ship. He stored it and then exited to menu. Then he came back to the same server and called it up and it was there on the grid.

Hope that helps you guys 🙂

[vestal ravine]

I am doing Red Wind contracts in Pyro and yes it all goes to fixed locations so far. 94k type.

[remote willow]

I will say, don't auto load the Idris. Not as it currently is, if any 32 SCU box goes to the top cargo grid you're screwed

[leaden bane]

anyone knows where to check what to mine where, wheres the best amount of some minerals?

[crisp iron]

https://regolith.rocks/

[leaden bane]

thank you

[tender quiver]

Where to sell titanium for the best price?

[pearl juniper]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

don't expect to get much for it anywhere

[tender quiver]

Ik its not valuable

but thx

[austere canyon]

can someonne help me here. my mining charge wont show in my prospector. ive tried everything google told me to. server hopping. cycling power. switching between fracture and extract a couple of times. nothing seems to work. since i bought it my prospector has only worked once

any solutions that have been proved to work?

[random patrol]

You have mining laser power enabled?

[austere canyon]

Yes. Also tried to turn the laser off and on again

[random patrol]

Id say try someone elses prospector and let them try yours to see if the problem follows you etc

[jade cape]

are you waiting for the rocks to be scanned?

[austere canyon]

Nope. Scanned it alright. It shows the green area and the overcharge area. Just not the amount of charge in the asteroid

I can adjust my beam charge all I want. But I can’t see how much charge is in the asteroid. I tried putting it to 100 just to see what would happen. But nothing did after a solid 2 mins

[jade cape]

what does it say for the difficulty? easy,medium,hard, challenging, impossible?

[crisp iron]

Is this for every single rock or only some of them?

[austere canyon]

Impossible. But also tried challenging.

[jade cape]

what about for ones that say easy, medium?

[austere canyon]

But I remember being easily able to do impossible rocks in the atlas geo

[austere canyon]

I remember an e type asteroid worked once

[jade cape]

the geo have high and low power mode where as prospector does not

[crisp iron]

I ask because I had a similar issue on some rocks and the problem turned out they could just be extracted immediately (purple outline) and didn't need cracking but it doesn't sound like that's what's happening here necessarily

[austere canyon]

So I need to buy a new laser?

[austere canyon]

Nope. No purple outline. Just yellow

[jade cape]

no you need to look for rocks that have less mass, resistance, etc that the prospector can handle to break

[austere canyon]

So what am I looking for then?

In terms of numbers

[jade cape]

rocks/asteroids that say easy,medium, hard

[austere canyon]

I’ll try that tomorrow then

[jade cape]

i dont know the numbers havent learned that much about it

[austere canyon]

Earlier today I had a small asteroid that I could actually do sumn about. But it still didn’t show the charge meter

[crisp iron]

I'd have to check but I think prospector can do like up to 20kish mass? But easiest way is to ignore impossible and just mine anything else.

[random patrol]

I have this excel sheet that shows the values depending on your build.... For my build its 25k with a Helix and two Reiger C3's....no gadgets

Surge gets me to almost 30k with one reiger C3

[crisp iron]

Ah yea that makes sense. I just do comfy helix I don't try to push the max with surge

[random patrol]

Yeah same.....I still make decent $

[crisp iron]

Yea I probably make 150-200kish/hr in my prospector which suits me fine .

[slate spruce]

Max rock size you can break is roughly 5x laser power x (1 - resistance). For example a Helix I with no modules vs rock with 15% resistance can break up to 5x3150x0.85=13387 mass.

Asteroids are often too big and more appropriate for Moles, Prospectors are better for surface mining.

You can find all the numbers here, they haven't changed much since 3.22 #industrial-professions message

[cerulean vessel]

im trying to salvage ships since i just bought the misc fortune, when i try to scrape a hull it doesnt do anything. what im i doing wrong?

it says surface invalid

[pearl juniper]

Here's my spreadsheet that does the power vs mass vs resistance calculations #industrial-professions message

[crisp iron]

Some ships seem bugged/fracture only, like the arrow. Try changing up what you're salvaging and see if those work

[cerulean vessel]

it was the anvil arrowhead that i was salvaging since its only 5k to accept the contract, i will try and report back

[crisp iron]

Yea those arrows are unscrapeable for some reason I think, I ran into the same issue last night. Other ships I experimented with (315p, Vanguard, etc) worked fine

[cerulean vessel]

well thank you for the help, it was very frustrating since i just spent like 3/4 of my wallet on a ship and couldnt use it lol

[crisp iron]

No problem! You can still fracture them to complete the contract but construction materials arne't big money makers

[cerulean vessel]

it was indeed just the arrowheads that are broken

[remote willow]

Make sure that you're not using Vulkan renderer while salvaging as well.

[wraith zodiac]

This has been driving me crazy trying to figure out why arrows are fracture only. Thank you!

[jovial matrix]

Turns out ship mining is a lot more enjoyable when you aren't using a rented prospector

[plain pewter]

I am new. But... why? (currently running a cutter but i'm trying to figure out what i actually like and make money.. which i'm having problems with.) Thought about renting some ships...

[jovial matrix]

because you can upgrade the components on ships that you own, with rentals you're stuck with the stock loadout. For the prospector, that means being stuck with a mediocre mining head and no mining modules, limiting you to rocks that are quite small

You can kind of negate the downsides of a rental prospector by using mining gadgets (things you put on the rock by hand that affect certain things, like the instability or resistance of the rock), and afaik you can also manually add modules to the mining head with a tractorbeam. Its a lot of work and setup for not a lot of gain though, and you have to do that every time you claim the ship or re-rent it

[spare cloud]

What's wrong with you ?

[vestal ravine]

@austere canyon FYI, Prospector miner on You Tube cracked a 32 k mass high Quantanium rock on Pyro 4 for 500k profit. Helix 1 2 surges and a Sabir gadget. Mole bags. His name is Harold Palmer.

[austere canyon]

My problem is still that the charge indicator isn’t shown

[vestal ravine]

Sorry, Is this a Pledged Prospector?

[tender quiver]

I loaded finished refining order into my ship, I retrieved it and then when I got down to the hangar the ship was in "unknown location". I claimed it and all my good were gone. Is it normal?

[austere canyon]

Nope. Bought ingame

[vestal ravine]

Tobiq, I would try mining a very small amount of rock and go through the process again. Test the system.

[spare cloud]

Avoid retrieving ships from the lobby. #📁┃help-archive message

[vestal ravine]

You could try surface mining or have another miner try the ship out. Or even blow the ship up in space and see if a fresh rebuild fixes the issue. Check Spectrum for same type issues. Good luck.

[atomic apex]

guys im looking for some free hauling. i noticed that bioplastic and fresh food are decent rn, what do u guys recommend?

[jolly plover]

Trying to get better at hauling contracts to afford a vulture. Right now I've got it to where I'm doing two contacts to one location (100-150k profit) is that the best or is there a better way (I'm on master rank currently)

[atomic apex]

yea i know contracts but it feels like a stroy game or idk lol

im looking for some free cargo, buying and selling. I know risks

[finite bobcat]

Dupree / Greycat mission setup - presumably it's a bug but huggggggeeeee income from this https://youtu.be/0Z0V98n3uN8

This is absolutely huge 😍

All you need is rented raft and ideally an atls

[mild pumice]

Note there's talk of PVP folk camping those locations just FYI and hostile NPCs can spawn by the freight elevators. Otherwise they're decent missions.

[finite bobcat]

They're super safe not seen any bombers or anything

NPCs are a problem though

They can beam you from crazy far if they get aggro

[mild pumice]

They can also just spawn next to you out of thin air lol. I've not seen the PVP either so it could just be Spectrum mythical tears

[crisp iron]

Other than right alt K to unlock my ship components, anything I need to worry about or tricks for doing a bag swap on the prospector? So I need to worry about storing it for refining orders? Going to try putting MOLE bags on tonight

[slate spruce]

You need to store the ship or the bags for refining (it's not longer possible to refine from ship parked in hangar), and reclaiming the ship gives you the original bags again (save and swap components trick doesn't work)

[crisp iron]

Reclaiming if it's destroyed gives original bags, but I can retrieve it from storage without issue I assume

[jolly plover]

How goods the argo atls vs two handed tractor beam?

[pearl juniper]

it's about 10x faster to load and unload. Precision can be an issue though.

for the resource drive, I was loading a full Raft in like 5 minutes. Ok, 10x faster might be an exaggeration, but it's a lot faster.

[jade cape]

they key to using ATLS is position it so that you can free look holding Z while using it and pick and place cargo without moving the ATLS

[slate spruce]

ATLS starts having issues when trying to stack boxes in 3rd row from the ground (above its head), but for loading raft or moving bigger boxes it's just super fast.

[wraith zodiac]

So other than looking sexy, the RAFT is a good ship?

[olive gull]

best cargo ship ever

[wraith zodiac]

I love to hear it. That's my next ship goal haha

[olive gull]

wont regret it

Hurston skin from previous event

[wraith zodiac]

ohhhh that's a beautiful ship!

[royal spear]

but the classic orange...

[crisp iron]

Argo orange really does tend to make them some of the nicest ships off the bat

[slate spruce]

You can also rent it and test yourself on some cargo missions. Pays itself off really quickly

[dense burrow]

I got ganked at Cry Astro the other night doing those missions...

the pay is outstandding but you've gotta be sooooo careful

there was a group of guys in a polaris guardian and on the ground demanding 500k per stop, and even if you gave it they still blew you up leaving lol

I'm gonna try to do redwind missions that don't involve those locations though, cause the pay is really nice

if they fix turrets and the issue witth trespassing it'll likely help somewhat

[tight bear]

Im currently "Junior" rank in the Red Wind Linehaul rep. I've delivered lots of crates to Everus, sent down the freight elevator, and I COULD "submit" the quests. Will that get me the rep?

[tight bear]

I love my raft

[wraith zodiac]

Niiiice

[mild pumice]

Yes as long as you submit the contract you gain rep, full rep if you deliver everything and part rep as long as you have retrieved the cargo at the pickup side or only dropped off some.

[tight bear]

Ive done three full runs (27 of the 117k aUEC missions) and picked up all boxes, and submitted them properly. I only gained rep for the first run, the last two only gave the aUEC, not the rep.

[mild pumice]

You'll gain only a tiny bit of rep as they're trainee missions

You'll need to do the junior missions in Pyro to gain any notable rep

There's no higher rank missions for red wind in Stanton anyway until you reach master level. Like everything else these missions are WIP

It's something like 50xp for a rookie mission which is like a tiny smidge once you reach junior

[finite bobcat]

yeah raft is great for these dupree missions

im glad i got the paint for it from hurston

[glacial hare]

im getting into mining. I have a prospector (32 SCU cargo) how can I move the ore I mined into a base without refining it? Can I store like a lot of ore from different mining runs and then refininig everything at the same time?

[lime vessel]

The only way would be to dismount the bags and store them for later. You can buy bags at the cargo center.

[jovial matrix]

Would it be worth buying a prospector if I've already got a golem? the instability on the pitman is proving to be more annoying than I thought

[remote willow]

Between the modules and the gadgets you have should be more than enough to counter that instability

[jovial matrix]

thats true, but a helix is more stable (and doesnt add resistance to the rock at all) by default. Its also mainly for rocks that I can easily crack without a gadget, but have a small optimal window

[remote willow]

Not sure why you're considering the default. I'm always looking to min-max, but preference also takes heavy consideration. Instability doesn't bother me terribly much and I much prefer the golems versatility over the prospector.

I have to skip a lot of rocks either way since you can't maximize power enough in both. But I can't stand the mole so I don't bother with a lot of the big rocks.

If it looks like too much trouble I just move on

I've done a lot of mining where I realized I could have gotten a lot more done if I hadn't hard focused on a lot of hard to break rocks and simply looked for a smaller ones

There's a tipping point and trying to crack something huge versus looking for something more manageable as to which is worth more your time

[jovial matrix]

Im saying that an upgraded prospector is going to be better by default (because the helix doesnt add instability or resistance to the rocks) than an upgraded golem, and I want to know if the difference between the two is enough to warrant buying a prospector

[remote willow]

I don't think I agree with your initial assertion.

I personally find the instability increase to be negligible on the golem. It's laser has just as much output as the Helix.

If the instability bothers you enough to ask the question and you don't want to use gadgets or modules to counter that instability, then your answer is obvious go with the prospector.

If you can get manage to deal with the instability, then stick with a golem.

Prospector will give you 16 more SCU in storage, but you'll only be able to carry as much modules and gadgets as your backpack can as the prospector currently doesn't have internal storage. The bags are also harder to deal with comparatively.

[jovial matrix]

I suppose thats on me for not explaining fully why I've been thinking about buying a prospector, even though I've got a golem. I just had two bad breaks, back to back because of the golems instability, (both rocks had tiny optimal windows and the instability fucked me at the very end by making it jump into overcharge) which is why I asked my first question.

To clarify, I am using modules and I am using gadgets with the golem, and I plan to do the same if I get a prospector, I think it'd be silly not to. I've only been using gadgets on rocks that are just above what I can break with just the laser and the modules, It's annoying having to get out and put the gadget on the rock, so I dont bother with rocks that dont need a gadget for me to break them.

My original question should have been if the prospector is a big enough upgrade over the golem to warrant buying it. I'd be able to crack slightly bigger rocks with the prospector, assuming I'm using the same modules as the golem, because the helix is almost a straight upgrade from the pitman. Combine that with gadgets, and I should see a noticeable upgrade in the size of rocks I can crack. However, I don't know how big that difference actually is in practice, cause I've never flown a properly upgraded prospector, which is what I was trying to inquire about.

I also see what you mean in regards to spending less time trying to crack big rocks, and instead spending that time looking for easier rocks. The prospector would widen the range of rocks that I can actually crack though, and would make any rock easier to crack because of the lower instability and resistance that comes with using a helix over a pitman.

As for the bags, that's not something I really care about. Im not gonna be doing carrier ops with the golem or the prospector, I'm just flying to the refinery when im full and refining what I got, so its a non-issue for me

sorry for the text wall

[remote willow]

Nothing ever wrong with clarification.

[remote willow]

Yeah my initial thought to that problem would be to move on to find easier rocks.

I suppose it's a matter of preference at this point, I don't see the prospector's laser as an upgrade, more of a lateral move. You would be able to eek out a narrow advantage of being able to overcome rocks of a certain mass with less of an instability issue than the golem. At least on paper.

I have flown the prospector a little bit, but I also don't operate as most would as I have my Idris follow me on an alt.
My issues with the prospector were more logistical than setup wise.

Getting in and out of it was enough to drive me a little batty.
I think it's going to boil down to how you want to operate.

Do you want to hard focus on every rock you can? Or alter your strategy and only focus on what's manageable as in smaller rocks and skipping anything that could be potentially a headache

I think I better understand your question, unfortunately I'm probably not the best to answer it directly. Sorry for the confusing back and forth I'm not good at making my point generally speaking

[jovial matrix]

its ok, Im also horrible at articulating what I want or how im feeling, I get it lol

[remote willow]

I will say though, if you do ever get a big ship to haul your bags with. There's no beating The Golems bags. Very easy to organize stack them long ways for empty short for full or vice versa

[jovial matrix]

yeah for sure

[jovial matrix]

Most of the time, I try to get as much good ore as possible in one run, even if that run ends up taking me an hour lol. I know thats really inefficient, but landing with a load of 25 SCu of taranite vs landing 3 times with a load of 10 SCU of taranite is much more satisfying to me, even if it took me twice as long to get that 25 SCU load.

I also really value convenience with stuff like this. Easy example is the vulture vs the fortune. I've flown both a lot, and I will always take a fortune over a vulture, just because I dont have to move the boxes as much.

With that in mind, I think I've answered my own question, in that the prospector is probably doing to be the more convenient option for me. Having slightly more power and being able to crack bigger rocks/crack small rocks slightly easier without having to use a gadget is worth the cost of a prospector

This last mining trip I've had to pass up at least 3-4 rocks that would've easily filled up a golem or prospector, but I wasn't able to crack them because I lacked just a little bit of power

also, I got the amazing pilot seat bug, so bye bye 16SCU of bexalite

unrelated, can you put more than 1 gadget on a rock at a time?

[remote willow]

You can now iirc

There's a. Trade off though

[jovial matrix]

gotcha

[remote willow]

I think it makes it a guarantee that you lose your gadget or both did something like that I think

[remote willow]

I totally get the thought of convenience overall. But I can't get over the MinMax part of my brain. Especially if I only have let's say 2 hours to play one day I'm going to pick the vulture every time and maximize my SCU per hour.

I did get a wikolo Fortune for the weekends when I have more time to make money in a relaxing way. I say that somewhat jokely as I find even the vulture here relaxing. I guess I'm just used to it at this point

[jovial matrix]

yeah I understand where you're coming from as well, just comes down to a matter of preference like you said

[remote willow]

There's also a tinge of bias, I hate the ladders of both the prospector and the fortune.

With a passion

[jovial matrix]

very fair, I pretty much only use the elevator on the fortune. Its also why I dont ever use the nomad, even though its a good ship

It was the first ship I bought ingame after I started playing, and I don't think I've bought it again since then just because of the ladder lol

[remote willow]

If you ever wish to experience worse torture in the game, get it to the bed of either the NISC freelancer or any of the constellation bunks

[jovial matrix]

gotta love that long ass animation

[remote willow]

The game will get to 1.0 about the time The animation finishes

[jovial matrix]

a relic from another time lol

[marble pilot]

what location is the best to stack junior rank missions for covalex?

[spare cloud]

Any planet normally allows you to stack contracts between its city and LEO station

[crisp iron]

Managed to exploit instability in my favor to crack a huge "impossible" rock last night and get 12 SCU of quant, feels good

[finite bobcat]

Dupree runs buying me a hawk

[olive gull]

darn elevartors are broken again....

and assholes nuking the place...

[finite bobcat]

Bro who would bomb Dupree wtf

Least I've been lucky and not seen it happening

[jovial matrix]

what do you even do at dupree? Is there just certain cargo missions you can stack there?

[olive gull]

🤷‍♂️

[patent spoke]

Hopefully this is appropriate for this channel (I dont yet have access to Market)... How do i safely trade other players? I have been attempting to utilize UEX but have twice now had people skim the deal one way or another

[finite bobcat]

Stack way more red wind missions than you should be able to

From Dupree to Everus

[olive gull]

i've used #market-street twice successfully, they really try to keep scammers away, you can actually report them

there is a validation process to access the market, this is a securty meassure for scammers

[olive gull]

shut the food hole! we got enough competition already ! you want yet another PVPer / grieffer on the place?

im joking, xD

[summer gazelle]

Hey everyone, first time im playing in years and first time im doing a serious playthrough of the logistics role. Can anyone help me out?
I have abandoned 2 missions due to the timer running out and not being able to open a hangar. somehow the cargo is in my cargo hangar now still available to be pulled out, even though i abandoned the mission yesterday. what do i do with this cargo

[mild pumice]

You should be able to sell it at Hex but you get less than the cost of the fuel to fly it there lol it'll be deleted next patch

[finite bobcat]

Hey I like it being busy at the distros with tons of ships landing

Makes the verse feel alive

[olive gull]

Cargo missions with a timer?... 🤔
just throw away to space the boxes, you can sell them at Grim but they will only pay a fraction of the value due the boxes are mark as 'part of a mission' therefore is not worth the effort, space them out

[spare cloud]

#market-street is the best thing you can have if you're looking for safety.
Verify in #market-agreement

[summer gazelle]

Yeah they all have that little time icon? usually about an hour or so?

it even says at the bottom, if the timer runs out, they'll consider the cargo as stolen. but they'll provide a new drop off point instead - this never happened. (they might do this down the road)

[olive gull]

to be honest, i never noticed any timer on cargo mission, but i never take more than 1 hour to complete a run
if you have problems with the darn hangar queues, we all do, go to a less populated planet,
for example i run on Arcorp / Baijini, no queues, Microtec is also good
or... jump to a less populated server, like EU or AUS

[slim mica]

What's the TL;DR for roc/geo mining? where should I go and which gems should I grab?

i dunno if the cheat sheets are still up to date

[spare cloud]

Hand mineables are in caves only.
Everything you find on planet surface that's not for ships should be for ROC.

These are usually detected sub 3 or 5km by the ping (TAB).

[slim mica]

It's the rocks that aren't huge, right?

[spare cloud]

Yep, and that aren't any of the rock types listed on !regolith

[jolly dagger]

Regolith

Use the website to search for ore location, optimal mining loadouts and the best trade locations

[spare cloud]

Shale, obsidian, gneiss...

So not those.

[slim mica]

Oh that's a cool site

[jovial matrix]

you can actually find hand mineables on the surface of moons/planets, I found some hadanite while I was mining today

[spare cloud]

That's cool I guess.
I wasn't against them being cave only, which I'm pretty sure that's what they did when they first introduced the GEO and reworked hand/ROC mineables, but not against it being back in surface either.

[limpid sluice]

Does anyone have reasonably accurate numbers on how much of the various ores you typically get from doing a full Hathor mine?

[vestal ravine]

Hi, I've had like 6 sessions with the Geo on some of the Pyro moons and in 4 of them the Geo blew up or stopped collecting. One of these I was at fault the rest were weak armoring. So, I have to sideline this robot for now. Just be careful using it. Good luck.

[cerulean vessel]

where should i sell the scrap i get from salvage missions? i heard it was in pyro but i forgot the name of the place that gives you the most

[jovial matrix]

take it to orison, either that or terra mills on cellin. Terra mills has pretty low demand most of the time though, so I'd only sell one vulture/fortune load at a time there

[cerulean vessel]

where is orison? is it stanton or pyro?

[jovial matrix]

stanton, orison is the main city on crusader

[cerulean vessel]

thank you kind sir. I shall head there and figure out where to sell it

[jovial matrix]

take the shuttle to the cloudview center. From there, look for the building with the golden globe sign, should say "TDD," or trade and development division, on it

[cerulean vessel]

oh word

hopefully i get some good cash from this haul, i spent a lot of money and probably about 2 1/2 hours collecting this scrap

[jovial matrix]

how much SCU do you have?

[cerulean vessel]

11 i think, i just used almost all of the money ive saved up for a long time to buy the misc fortune to try out scrapping

[jovial matrix]

should make about 110, 120k

Going forward, I'd reccomend avoiding the legal salvage missions, and instead do the unverified salvage missions. You don't have to pay to accept them, they give you bigger ships, you won't get a crimestat, and you have an hour to scrape the ship before hostile AI show up

[cerulean vessel]

i usually do hauling missions in my corsair. I gotta say 120k is barely anything with the cost of scrapping being about 20k, i probably spent 80k alone getting the missions. Maybe ill stick to space trucking

ill try that next time for sure

[jovial matrix]

yeah, doing legal salvage is super rough, you barely make a profit

[cerulean vessel]

if there even is a profit at all

[jovial matrix]

yeah

[cerulean vessel]

Im debating on dropping the cash to get the constellation andromeda or whatever the cargo one is. I love my corsair but its got some serious downfalls to it but it looks so cool

love space trucking

[jovial matrix]

they're pretty similar ships, what don't you like about the corsair?

[cerulean vessel]

i love everything but it seems super heavy while flying. That and now most of the missions that make money take up more than like 130 scu or i can do 40k missions that i haul 4 thingds to 3 different sites

honestly i want the hull c or e or whatever is the real space trucking ship

[jovial matrix]

the hull C is pretty sick, I've wanted to get one since it came out, and I finally did as of 4.3. I really like the ship

as for the corsair being heavy, any of the connie's are gonna feel the same

[cerulean vessel]

yea im definitely gonna drop the cash if it ever becomes available again since i love that gameplay loop. Nothing like getting off work and having some relaxing time traveling through the verse and doing some space trucking to make some cash

[jovial matrix]

It'll be avaliable in november, for IAE

[cerulean vessel]

I heard it was october, im not super into following the citizencon or whatever is going on even though ive played the game for almost a year, i deleted it a while ago bevcause my friend stoppped playing and i kinda just didnt know what to do but now its a nice game to play to relax after work

[jovial matrix]

IAE (intergalactic aerospace expo) is the big sales event they have every november, where every ship is for sale, and theres a cool ingame expo where you can check out all the different ships

[cerulean vessel]

oh damn every ship? im gonna have to start storing some cash to afford all the ships i want

[jovial matrix]

lmao, maybe I shouldn't have told you then :)

[cerulean vessel]

I need the hull c and the scythe for sure, other than that some other ships i can wait or debate if i want one or the other

[slim mica]

I accept that risk, the roc feels terrible to control

[craggy tapir]

The roc is pain

It doesn't gave good traction and it bounces around when you exit it

[faint lance]

how does one start cargo hauling? do i just go to a random outpost or something and buy stuff and go sell somewhere or do i get contracts, bit new to the game

[craggy tapir]

i would generally recommend renting a hull a

its available at every cargo deck in station across stanton for 30k

[faint lance]

i've got a C1 which i believe is the same cargo capacity

[craggy tapir]

and start by doing hauling contracts between as an example Baijini and Riker memorial

[craggy tapir]

its the same and since you got one i would use c1 instead of the hull A since you can carry an atls

[faint lance]

whats an atls?

[craggy tapir]

the exo mech suit

you can get it in area 18, orison and hurston

costs 75k

[faint lance]

ahh and will that help transport the boxes into the ship? i was struggling with doing that by hand earlier

[craggy tapir]

definitely

it takes the box in a tractor grip and shows a placement option, white for grid, green for non-grid

no matter the size of the cargo ship, most people tend to have atleast 1 in it

[faint lance]

ahhh i see

also for the cargo, i saw i should do 2 32scu boxes is that right?

[craggy tapir]

the c1 can carry 2 32scu but you wont get them from the missions

you get scu boxes ranging from 1 to 4

[faint lance]

ahh yeah true

[craggy tapir]

as a newbie to hauling i wouldnt recommend hauling goods with little to no investment

[faint lance]

wdym?

[craggy tapir]

golden rule is to never spend more than 50% of your money on goods

[faint lance]

i see i see

thanks very much

[craggy tapir]

if you fly gold for 5k per scu

you spend 80k on a 16scu box

then your ship gets pirated or the cargo bugs out

you lost 80k which can be a major setback

considering you need to spend a mil to fill a raft with goods

bugs out, you lost a whole mil

[mild pumice]

this has to be the most annoying bug to hit the hauling missions, after searching for a mission at your location it straight up changes after you take the mission :/

[slim mica]

Yep, happens all the time sadly

That or the amount of SCU changes

[mild pumice]

yeah I think I'm going to skip hauling for this patch I thought it was only some of the new hauling missions that did it but seems to be all - just updating the IC now

it's impossible to plan routes when they keep changing

[dusty current]

I did hauling missions for like 6 hours last night and made a million, only issue I had was if a box disconnected accidentally while tractor beaming it from the raft, it just vanished lol

[atomic apex]

can i sell stolen stuff to orbituary?

like grimhex

[dusty current]

yes

Grimhex is for the criminals lol

[atomic apex]

yea but

im asking for orbituary

i feel like pyro is full pirate area so i can sell stolen stuff to anywhere

but idk, its not no questions asked terminal at uexcorp

[dusty current]

not sure haven’t done pirating in recent months

Just been running legal cargo past few days. Raft FTW

[atomic apex]

contracts or buy-sell?

im looking for some free cargo gameplay and risk my money but there is no worth stuff to trade or idk

if im taking risk i must earn more than contracts, but their profit seems low compared to risk

[slim mica]

I was mining for a hour or two and when I threw my box with all the gems into the freight elevator it just disappeared from the display after I lowered it, did I do all of this for nothing?

[dusty current]

Contracts. One run (30m) was netting me about 200-300k depending

I haven’t done buy sell because the risk doesn’t outweigh the reward considering I can get an easy 70k, stacked with 2 or 3 50k orders and make 230k without any investment.

[dusty current]

It likely went into either your personal storage or the refinery

[slim mica]

personal storage as in my character's inventory or...?

cause I do not have anything on my character

can't have been a refinery cause the outpost had none

[dusty current]

If you figure out how to make good money buying and selling then definitely ping me because I’m down for it if the risk isn’t insane

Personal storage as in if you scroll down in the storage inventory (the inventory on the right in freight computer)

[slim mica]

oh

maybe I didn't look right then lol

[dusty current]

Was the cargo locked into the grid?

It’s super important to make sure your cargo is actually grid locked before lowering it

[slim mica]

was a 4scu box with a bunch of feynmaline in it, the box was locked

[dusty current]

Then it should be there

Somewhere

[slim mica]

just gotta remember where I dropped it off ahaha

[dusty current]

if it isn’t locked and the elevator resets for some reason you loose it. If it is locked then it will still register

Go to any storage panels in the station and look

[slim mica]

oh it wasn't a station, it was one of those small surface outposts

[dusty current]

That’s fine, just goto a storage panel

[slim mica]

like, anywhere?

[dusty current]

at that outpost

[slim mica]

sure i'll try that

oh oki

[dusty current]

I’m wondering if maybe the crate got put into your outpost storage which is the most likely scenario

or it’s in the warehouse but i’ve always had it go into my storage

How was mining by the way? I have a prospector. I was considering mining then refining and selling somewhere but last time I went mining it took forever and the amount of money I made wasn’t worth the time spent. E.g 600,000k for 4 hours

i can make 300k in an hour haha. So double that doing contract hauling

[slim mica]

I thought it was chill, until my geo started bugging out and couldn't suck up minerals anymore at least

probably not super profitable but I had fun at least

[dusty current]

that’s what matters haha. I personally want to buy ships so i’m just working for money right now haha

[slim mica]

I don't wanna grind too much cause any update can delete some of your stuff if you're unlucky

my bf wants to watch anime with me but i'll check that outpost after, I think I remember which one it was

[dusty current]

imo wipes aren’t that often lol, and you typically keep any ships you buy

[crisp iron]

MOLE mining will be more profitable than Prospector mining by a good deal but I usually make like 3-400k/hr prospector mining

At least when I don't get bodied by RNG which is part of mining

[dusty current]

the key is the store your assets. E.g buy ships and expensive stuff to sell later if you need money and it gets reset

[spice shell]

I lost 4 ships bought with aUEC this patch. No rhyme, no reason. No recourse, either.

[atomic apex]

seems like pve players cried for safe hauling so contracts are too op rn so

[dusty current]

I have 4 ships I bought in-game that I’ve had for quite a while with no issues

[dusty current]

I honestly love the new hauling contracts lol

equally i don’t love PVP right now so I guess I’m one of those who just wants to peacefully space haul lol

[spice shell]

The number of people that want to role play as NPCs is crazy to me. As hauls get larger and contracts more profitable, why don't you hire some security?

[random patrol]

Thos geo crates get bugged somehow and think they are full. The trick is to take out a bunch of ones you know are empty (brand new) and swap out a new one each time its full. When you get back to the station empty them out...and get rid of any of them that dont show 100% empty after you finish.

I like the greycat roc because u can take the gems straight out of the back storage and not bother with extra crates

[slim mica]

I can't find a storage panel in it lol, just the commodity one

[oak swallow]

Not much worse than stocking 2M worth of product for an independent haul and getting shot down leaving orbit... Guess I wont be leaving contracts for a while.

[finite bobcat]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/dupree-red-wind-crazy-cargo-stacking-income-bug

[dusty current]

Roleplay as NPC’s? Hauling cargo is a gameplay loop that’s meant to be used and played.

[dusty current]

The dupree redwing missions are amazing. 177k for one but risky because you can get shot down

I tried one last night and got blown up. People are sitting there just blowing up anyone that comes near it. I just didn't want to keep getting blown up and reset

although I don't know how to even land at Dupree, I didn't have time to figure it out

[spice shell]

Yeah, of course. But y'all want to never interact with other people.

[olive gull]

you dont need to ask for landing at Dupree, but you get a notification about being in a hostile area
there are only 4 landing pads on the spot, and they are quite little, barely enough for the RAFT

• there may be hostile NPCs
• there may be hostile Players
• you may get nuked
• Elevators may not work

here is a closer view,
sorry the images are not of my own

[mild pumice]

These missions have become too well known now, best avoided unless you have a quiet server, there's only 4 pads/freight elevators so it'll get crowded quickly and abandoned ships as usual. Plus you know people who like to shoot fish in a barrel will gravitate... they were fun early on 💰

[marble pilot]

anyone know how many missions I can stack for member rank for the planetary ones?

I thought there would be 6 but there's only 4 that go to the same location

[olive gull]

should be 6 missions of $50k one of 45k i think, and another of $75k (to return from airport to station)

havent done them on this patch, they may had changed?
ry on another server

[marble pilot]

Huh, I found 3 99ks and 1 90k

[olive gull]

looking on the small cargo tab of the missions?

[marble pilot]

yes

I'll look for the 50 and 45k ones but I just took these since the guide on reddit said so

[dusty current]

Oh I interact with people all the time, especially at planetside outposts doing cargo. Most people don't have mics unfortunately-- but I do understand why people want to be left alone, the community in-game is toxic most of the time.

[dusty current]

I tried asking for landing before but it wasn't triggering. That would make sense why I was confused. NPC's I'm cool with, it's just bored playing hovering in orbit waiting to blow people up that's super frustrating. I don't mind PVP but I don't partake because it's not my thing, getting blown up in a PVE game loop is stupid

[mild pumice]

It might not work as well now since the bug that changes locations after accepting missions

[marble pilot]

the bug that doesnt give me enough cargo sucks even more

I do the 3 locations and there's a supply grade member mission that makes you collect scrap and waste from 2 locations

but half the cargo doesn't even exist so you cannot complete the mission

[mild pumice]

Yeah hauling is currently not in the best shape

[marble pilot]

tried it like 3 or 4 times

[mild pumice]

Yeah that's been an issue since around 4.1, any missions that pick up from multiple locations and drop at one location are bugged

Only cargo from the top location in the list is counted

There's open ICs for all these issues

[marble pilot]

Yeah it only shows me one location to pick them up

I go there and it gives me 1/4th

I go to the other location that is listed in the description and it gives me another quarter of the cargo

half of it is missing lol

[mild pumice]

They need to use of the dev cards to fix up these issues lol.

[marble pilot]

the best ones I could find are in everus harbor and you can stack 9 missions that go to 4 locations

looks pretty good for a c2

[runic aurora]

tryna take a geo to hathor in a medivac . . . we succeeded? ish? using the front elevator X3

[ionic topaz]

How many missions can you have shared? Like could we get 5 people together and have them all share the magnus to everus member rank mission to me and i just run all 5 at once with my hull c?

[olive gull]

wont work, even if you have that many human slaves...
to start, mission rewards, including rep, will be spitted among all party members, therefore you'll be getting only 1/5th of the rep

[blissful flume]

Anyone making money savaging

Salvage?

[dusty current]

Anyone else not getting redwing contract options?

[jade cape]

Yeah with vulture and reclaimer

[blissful flume]

@jade cape did it get nerf?

[jade cape]

the sell price took a small hit from 10.5k ~ down to 8.5k ~

[finite bobcat]

dupree going crazy 🔥

[solar citrus]

more contracted cargo? Zzzz

[jolly plover]

whats better. solo salvage contract or solo asteroid belt

[jade cape]

unverified contracts or panels around like cru l1 or something else like that

[jolly plover]

more profitable having to move to each panel than just focusing on one big ship?

[spare cloud]

Wtf mate, this is a 13+ discord server, act accordingly

[toxic ice]

Good morning, i assume a silly question but ill ask it anyway, what have people been doing to find the larger rocks faster?

[remote willow]

Luck

[toxic ice]

Thats what i thought, planet or asteroid?

Ive tried to do some asteroid but literally cannot find any rocks

[spare cloud]

IME, average rock in space is larger, but the monster rocks are on surface.

[random patrol]

IMO - Moons are a better bet for decent sized rocks....Just as an example I found on Clio a 70k+ rock last night with 40%+ Quant....- Moons have rocks in clumps so you might a good amount in a small area.

[toxic ice]

Gotcha, im still trying to work out how to properly work out what my laser is capable of, i either find super easy rocks, or quite literally impossible rocks

Nothing like you described here

[toxic ice]

Oooh

Tyvm

[random patrol]

Oh that 70k was cracked by more than one MOLE.... There is no way it was doable solo

[spare cloud]

I can't imagine the nightmare it must be, but triple Helix with triple Surge theoretically capable of cracking 206k rock

Obviously this is just me setting the most insane MOLE loadout just for the fun numbers

0-65% resistance (every 5%)

[toxic ice]

The XTR modules arent in the spreadsheet, how come?

[spare cloud]

It doesn't matter for power calculations

It doesn't have power or resistance modifiers

The sheet only includes modules and gadgets that have a modifier on either of these two stats

It's purely about "what rock size can you crack" without taking into account greenzone, charge rate, extration power, inert materials...

So if you're running those, just leave the space blank.

[jade cape]

yes you can make about 400k-600k an hr doing panels

and they are free

[pearl juniper]

Yep. I originally built it just to help decide if it was worth getting out to apply a gadget, or worth burning a charge on a surge module.

[serene hill]

Anyone know whats a good loadout for mining quantanium with a crewed mole?

[marble pilot]

anyone doing hauling with multiple delivery points, how do I know which cargo to take where?

I am supposed to bring 3scus to 4 locations but it gives me like 40 scus of cargo

[unique ridge]

personally i use a helixII with all surges in head1, hofstede with fltr on head 2, and the stock head with whatever modules on it

i use the hofstede head to break small rocks and extract, helix to break big rocks and the stock head to break med rocks/re-break or for other people to use if they come along. i also bring some extra heads, modules and gadgets so i can adjust on the fly to whatever rocks are poppin up

[olive gull]

hehehe, that's one of the issues with hauling those contracts, you may want to pull out the cargo from the elevator by mission, they have labels identifying them, then you can arrange the boxes in your ship in a way later u can know which mission it belongs too,
however i believe you dont have to be so picky, you can just arrange by type: all iron in the back, all Tungsten on the left, all ice on the right, and if in a place u are asked for 3scu of iron, you can pick any of the irons, and so

[slim mica]

Quests that require you to pick up cargo from multiple locations and then bringing them to one central location seem to be broken rn, whenever I do them they don't seem to finish properly

Like, I pick up waste from 3 stations and when I bring it to where it's supposed to go the quest only marks one of the locations as finished, the remaining waste just turns into non contract boxes

[dense saddle]

anything i should put on my vulture or is it fine to use it stock?

[jovial matrix]

bare minimum, swap out the cinch on one of the salvage heads for another abrade

[jade cape]

use double abrade mods

[vestal ravine]

I run double Abrades ditch the tractor beam if you have to.

[finite bobcat]

dupree income is nuts just made like 1 mil in 30 min

[jovial matrix]

Had a pretty good time defending dupree last night with my org. Some guy contracted us to defend him while he hauled, in exchange for a cut of his profits, and we ended up fighting UNB pretty much the whole time we were there

[finite bobcat]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/dupree-red-wind-crazy-cargo-stacking-income-bug

made a spectrum thread about how good dupree is

[mild pumice]

Honestly it should be spreading the missions out to other locations so it's probably in some part a bug or just lacking polish. Ride the cash cow while it lasts 💰

It's cool to see actual emergent gameplay tho

[ionic topaz]

It does, thier available on every planet

[viral heath]

dumb take,, tarus or raft for dupre?

[jade cape]

RAFT

easy open floor plan to load faster

[rose cedar]

is the HullC the only ship you can get automated cargo loading? I am doing covalex shipping SCU cargo contracts for around 102SCU

or does that not apply to contracts and only commodity loading

[flat lynx]

i was about to ask the same question because im pretty new to cargo and i have a taurus i suppose ill have to test it?

[knotty dove]

It worked for contracts as well

For hull C

[viral meteor]

What contract(s) is it? I can't seem to find it in mine.

[faint lance]

not sure if this is where i would ask but it is technically mining, im trying to mine rocks in prison and i have the mining attachment but the rocks just wont mine? is there something im doing wrong or could be a bug

[jovial matrix]

hold left alt, and move the scrollwheel up to increase your laser's power

On your multitool, the right bar is your laser power and the left bar is how much power you're putting into the rock

increase your power until the left bar gets into the green, and then hold it there until the little circle under the left bar is fully green

[vestal ravine]

I did the "starter" mission at Area 18 then went to Lorville to see the main body of the Red Wind contracts...

[viral meteor]

Cool thanks

[faint lance]

at what point do you start getting 32scu crates in hauling missions?

[finite bobcat]

Dont run your rock into the red btw

as a tip, rocks keep mining as long as theyre in the green zone, even while you arent lasering them

[onyx trench]

Yes, only hull C

[faint lance]

Ay yeah… I figured that out after like 30 or 40 rocks broken

[brittle lantern]

Is hailing cargo pads working for anyone? Only hailing normal pads is working for me

[slim mica]

The cargo ones are Hull C only iirc

[brittle lantern]

Im using the hull C

[tall karma]

Your spindles have to be extended

[mild cloud]

It's there a way to make it so the Atls doesn't just hold the box right in front of your face so you can see what you're doing?

[pearl juniper]

use free look (hold Z) to look out the sides. Position yourself so the atls is 90 degrees to both the souce and the destination.

then look out one side to pick up, look out the other side to place.

[mild cloud]

Thanks

Would be nice if you could move them around like the tractors

[prime raft]

Is cargo hauling better money then salv or mining?

[mild cloud]

So should I get the Asgard to ironclad ccu? I hear I'll get a caterpillar as a loaner, will I hate my life with it?

[jade cape]

Cat is ok for multi contract hauls

[ionic topaz]

@jade cape if you arent yet experienced rank the cat will serve you well for getting through junior rank

[ancient obsidian]

someone willing to borrow / rent a reclaimer to me?

[spare cloud]

No, use #looking-for-session or market channels if you're willing to pay.

[wraith tree]

anyone heard of any potential updates to the prospector? would be nice to have a rear storage hatch to hold a backup head and mining modules.

and do you all prefer to land and have whatever is in the ship get refined? or swap out storage bags then eventually have multiple runs refined at once to reduce the number of 1scu boxes

[royal spear]

I distinctly remember prospector was meant to have filtration systems so you can filter out ores you don't want as you are mining but that seems to have been scrubbed..

[mild pumice]

some mining modules filter out some of the inert materials

[random patrol]

Most of the time I swap out bags unless I have quant on board. Takes me 5 minutes from leaving the moon, arriving at the station and swapping out bags.

[formal cairn]

If my buddy in a party is using a prospector, would I be able to use a cargo ship to take and empty the mining bags?

[spare cloud]

Yeah

You can't empty the bags without refining tho, you need replacement bags.

[formal cairn]

Alright

Does the refining order essentially keep the bag until its finished? Or does it just go back to the freight elevator

[spare cloud]

You should be able to take the bags back right away

[formal cairn]

Awesome, thank you

[wraith tree]

How many empty bags do you keep in reserve before refining?

[random patrol]

As many as you think is needed.

[wraith tree]

and then you get larger containers after refinement which makes it easier to handle?

[random patrol]

After its refined i have it sent to the station storage because ive lost refined ore before that was sent straight to my stored cargo ship

So max you get is 4scu crates that way. Its a mix of 1,2 and 4's

[wraith tree]

right, iv been landing, then having it refined then running off to mine more, but it means that some trips give me a bunch of 1scu crates when i'd prefer 4scu. I've been thinking of just swapping bags then starting one massive refining session when i'm out of bags

that way I get larger scu containers delivered (to the station) when its complete

making it easier to load a raft or freelancer

[random patrol]

You know about refinery bonuses?

[wraith tree]

beyond which refinment method you pick, I do not

[random patrol]

Certain stations give you bonuses depending on what you are refining

https://regolith.rocks/tables/refinery

[wraith tree]

oh man, that would be a lot of running around

i'v just been going to CRU L1 and having everything refined

so are you running around with the bags in the hull of something and going station to station to get bonuses on specific stuff?

[random patrol]

No....I live at MICL2 and mine on Clio and Calliope....You dont have to run around....just pick a station that benefits you.

[wraith tree]

Are you specializing in gold and bex?

[random patrol]

Taranite, Bexalite and Gold mainly

and quant of course lol

[wraith tree]

but you do just wait until you have a bunch of full bags in storage then do one big processing?

[random patrol]

Yeah after a few runs I just goto the refinery....I might have 12 or 16 full on average.

[wraith tree]

oh damn, using a prospector or mole?

[random patrol]

Prospector mainly but I have a Mole and a Golem also.

[wraith tree]

understood. I'll try mixing it up and move around, try different stations, never realized I was hurting my gold returns so much

one of these days i'd like to get a group and take the mole out with like a C2 to swap bags

[random patrol]

Ive done solo runs with a C2/Golem....just cram the C2 with empty bags then stick the golem in and go out alone.

[wraith tree]

nice. I haven't picked a golem up yet, just got the ol mole and prospector

few industry ships i'm missing, need a vulture still. and need a proper feight ship, biggest SCU I hve is the freelancer max

[random patrol]

Golem is ok....but I prefer the Prospector.

Vulture is ok....I used to do a lot of salvage but its all mining now

[wraith tree]

I was going to get a Cat, but I see so few of them, 5 years ago they were everywhere

[random patrol]

Ive flown the cat during a free fly but never owned one

[wraith tree]

iv been mining a bunch but im clearly hurting my returns, like 7 trips and I netted maybe 1mill auc

back before the cargo grid they were good, but now the layout and lack of grids make it a pain compared to a c2 or raft

[random patrol]

Yeah they are "unique" to put it politely

[wraith tree]

well way back when they kinda made sense. back before there was cargo it seemed like "yeah, why wouldn't you want to open the sides and load stuff in, oh and its modular so a section could be a repair bay or a med bay or something

I've been in this since 2013 so I remember all that old shit

[random patrol]

Not me....only since July

[spice shell]

2025, and there's still no modularity for these ships. Tali, Carrack, Vanguard...

[wraith tree]

🙈

[random patrol]

IKR

[wraith tree]

I remember when the only thing bigger than my freelancer max was the Cat

like "omg so much storage" when the only cargo was hand held delivery boxes

[random patrol]

So far im impressed....I mean I play SC daily and enjoy the game loops....even with the bugs

[wraith tree]

I'm just glad that pad ramming isn't around as much

back before hangars you literally would land on a pad, and people would go full throttle and knock the ship off

[mild cloud]

Ok Atls team why does it hold the box right there?!?!

[magic nova]

wish I could modify the resting height, often I find I need it to be higher than what the atls defaults to when stacking crates 4scu high

[wraith tree]

while it wouldn't be realistic, they should let crates clip through others if a tractor beam has determined a grid to snap to

balance real with fun

[wraith tree]

How do you tell which bags are full on the elevator screen?

[mild cloud]

Just hold the damn box higher, lower or further away lol! "Here place this box exactly on your cargo grid with this super picky snap to system" but wait...let's make you do it blind, it should be click on box, click on destination and then it does the whole animation

[patent acorn]

haven't played in a year or so, how is salvaging profit compared to mining?

[random patrol]

The empty ones are on the top

[ionic topaz]

Why in the ever living fuck does she ship buying kiosk not give you any info on the ships? Lol

[random patrol]

Imo mining is more profitable and not "boring"

[cedar sphinx]

just started the game on saturday, im enjoying mining and im not sure if i should upgrade from the golem to the prospector

anything i should know to help the decision>

[random patrol]

Prospector let's you change mining lasers, has more storage for ore, let's you "bedlog" since it has a bed.

[cedar sphinx]

i thought they both had 32?

[random patrol]

Prospector can do 48

Argo bags...the ones used in the Mole...work on the prospector also

[cedar sphinx]

so you can just swap them out?

thats cool

[random patrol]

Yes

[cedar sphinx]

friend of mine has a freighter and hes going to help me get the refined stuff to the station to sell. is there a better way to move stuff once its refined that i dont know about?

[random patrol]

Thats basically how it works. Mine ore > refine ore > sell refined ore

[cedar sphinx]

gotcha

i need to find a better way to pick asteroids to mine

ive just been going to mining bases

[random patrol]

Moons

Imo moons have better rock clusters

[cedar sphinx]

just fly around on the surface looking for them?

[random patrol]

Pretty much

Be mindful of POI's on the moon you pick. Dont mine near them to avoid issues with other players

[cedar sphinx]

fair enough

[unique ridge]

https://regolith.rocks

[remote willow]

Just get both

Both have strengths and weaknesses

[random patrol]

Agreed

[remote willow]

They're both cheap too

[cedar sphinx]

im a big fan of the golem having the cockpit on the front so every time i accidently hit boost i slam into shit and die

[random patrol]

Welcome to SC

[remote willow]

I love the golem too especially it's bags

[cedar sphinx]

i will say i accidently commited space fraud

[random patrol]

You can also shove a golem in a C2 and extra bags

[cedar sphinx]

friend of mine actually just bought a c2 and i had not considered that

[random patrol]

100% worth it

[cedar sphinx]

nope sorry he got the c1

[random patrol]

Well now you know it fits in a C2

And a few other ships...Polaris being another one

[remote willow]

Even better in an Idris

[random patrol]

That 2

[dusty current]

Is mining worth it right now? I feel like all the prices got scrapped

[random patrol]

Prices got scraped?

[dusty current]

Two years ago when I was playing, you could mine for a few hours and make easy millions, but last time I went mining I only made a few hundred grand and it just wasn’t worth it time / value

i haven’t checked in quite a while though so I was considering trying it out again.

[random patrol]

Depends on what you mine. Im guessing two years ago there were less available ores so maybe the prices were higher? Fwiw i make maybe 200-300k per load on the prospector..so you can make 1mil+ or more an hour depending on what your mining etc

[dusty current]

What’s your loadout on the prospector and which moons do you hit?

[random patrol]

Helix with two Reiger 3's. I mainly goto Clio and calliope since I operate out of micl2.

[dusty current]

I don't really remember what the stats are for but this looked good lol

[random patrol]

Never saw the optimum used

Surge and stampedes are what most people use for active modules

[dusty current]

I'm currently at ev station above hurston, Likely not the best place to mine haha

No refineries close by

[random patrol]

Ah no lol

Micl2 has some decent refinery bonuses

[dusty current]

I'll fly over to MICL2. Can I buy everything I need for the prospector modules there?

I'll try your setup and see how it goes.

[random patrol]

Youll have to check regolith and see what's sold there...I dont know off the top of my head

Micl2 to Clio is around 45 seconds...so its close.

[dusty current]

MICL2 does have the lasers it seems

and it has the RiegerC3's. Off to MICL2 I go.

I want to find a new paint job for this thing

[wraith tree]

That had to be an operation worth seeing, I’ve heard you can fit the prospector in sideways so you can fit 2 in the space of one

[dusty current]

I really lke the cockpit in the Prospector. Such a nice UI

[dusty current]

What type of rocks do you go for on Clio/Calliope? Mind me, haven't mined in forever. I've been running contract hauling for the last few weeks i've been playing

[random patrol]

Anything with quantanium of course. Then taranite or bexalite....I try to avoid everything else

You can sell the ore you dont process now...so dont waste time on cheap ore....

[wraith tree]

Are you storing bags with quant or just immediately refining them?

[random patrol]

Immediately refining them

[wraith tree]

Tried your trick last night, I’ve got like 12 bags refining, 48hr estimate

[dusty current]

Should I buy Drake Ore Pods or is that only for if you're hauling / swapping?

(prospector)

[wraith tree]

Drake pods only work on the golem

[dusty current]

Ahh

[wraith tree]

Look for Argo More Bags

[dusty current]

MICL2 only have the drake ones

[wraith tree]

They look the same as MISC bags but say Argo

[remote willow]

The issue with putting too many ships in the Idris is ships that get too close to the cargo grid bug it out and things don't stack there properly.

Also that was during the resource drive was a 6-hour op with only three people.

[dusty current]

Do i need more? Like they do take the bags when I go to refine?

[wraith tree]

They have argo bags at micl2

In the refinery store

No you don’t “need” more

You can land in the hangar, store the prospector, run down to the refinery and start refining everything, sell the remaining inert, then run back and start mining again

They’re taking bags with them because they’re running large mining operations away from any refinery

[wraith tree]

OK that makes sense, small crew for an idris op

[dusty current]

Mind me, learning this all again. Where do I determine the mass at?

because erm

Oh I was just in the wrong screen, sorry lmfao

[wraith tree]

I’ll be honest I’ve never paid attention to mass, just composition and if i feel like i can crack it, then make person judgements on what’s worth sucking up afterwards

[remote willow]

Due to my job I'm forced to play in the AU time zone. Sadly not a lot of friends Play around that time

[dusty current]

Yeah it said impossible so I don't think I'm getting that one lmfa

[spice shell]

There are "impossible" rocks you can crack. But there are also hard limitations, and typically this is defined by mass. Don't ask me for the thresholds because I don't know them anymore.

[dusty current]

I've been flying around scanning for awhile and have had zero luck finding any rocks I can actually crack with decent comps.

[wraith tree]

sometimes you can crack them with mining modules like Surge, its more about the resistance

but I've had better luck planet side than in orbit

they tend to be smaller, Mole handles large space rocks well

[wraith tree]

damn, yeah thats a tough time slot.

[dusty current]

I've been searching for rocks on Celin for almost an hour to no avail. Lmao. Every single thing that pings I check and nothing

[wraith tree]

I do wonder if the Kraken will become a good long range mining platform

[dusty current]

Clio*

[wraith tree]

odd, I've had good luck there

[dusty current]

Well I'm looking for the top profitable 4/5 ores, but nothing

a ton of Quartz and Corundum

not worth the time

and a bunch of these clusters

[wraith tree]

those are for hand mining

[dusty current]

that's the point, I'm not finding anything. Tab to scan right? Is there a different way to find rocks?

[wraith tree]

no, just look for unknown signals then go check them out

[dusty current]

Yeah that's what I've been doing, tab to scan, unknowns come up, I go to them, then I find this crap lol

andddd another lol

[wraith tree]

https://regolith.rocks/survey/ores

[dusty current]

Yeah I have it up

[wraith tree]

go over to euterpe

might have better luck. simetimes the way stuff spawns is just odd

[dusty current]

I just want this to work so bad haha

I've been making 1.2m per hour doing cargo hauling and I want to do something different yanno

[wraith tree]

for sure

[spare cloud]

I think I'd crack it, just for the fun of a full load for the easiest rock in the world

[dusty current]

doesn't make money though lol

Even that is showing only worth 429k. Seems that mining really isn't worth what you get out of it haha. Takes an hour to find a rock, that is only worth 400k, just to repeat the process and try to make more money. Hours of play to make a few million sheesh

welp, two hours wasted, no rocks found lol. Back to hauling I go until mining becomes profitable again

[random patrol]

Gave up already?

[dusty current]

I've been trying to find a single profitable rock for two hours, I unfortunately only have so much time in the week I can play, not going to waste hours and hours trying to find a rock just for it to be marked as impossible to mine

Mining used to be great years ago, dunno what happened

[random patrol]

You didnt try that quant rock? Ive done 23k

[dusty current]

It was only worth 400k lol

[random patrol]

Yeah and? thats one rock....you come back and keep going

[dusty current]

I also haven't mined in forever so I have no idea when it says "Impossible" I just take it at face value.

[random patrol]

Never hurts to try if it says Impossible....sometimes it changes to challenging or even medium

[spare cloud]

You're working out of numbers from two years ago, that's vastly outdated.

300k aUEC an hour is decent outcome nowadays.

[dusty current]

I can make 2-3m an hour doing contracts haha. Why spend 30 minutes trying to find a rock, going back and forth, just to make 400k? I'd love to have more gameplay loops to play, it's why I pledged for the prospector.

[random patrol]

I mean yeah....everyone can buy a Hull C and run 700k back and forth....but thats zzzzz

[dusty current]

One trip for me in my raft in 1.2m. Takes 15 minutes

I'm trying to buy new ships, I need money so I don't mind it. I just don't want to waste a few hours and only make a mil lol

[random patrol]

Stick with what yo know then....It doesnt take me that long to find a good deposit....maybe 10 minutes at most

[spare cloud]

Isn't that based on a duplicating exploit ?

[dusty current]

Duplicating?

You mean the FEATURE that CIG has already commented on? You can stack up to 18 contracts with ANY mission. Just so happens that the redwing ones are profitable.

People are oblivious

[spare cloud]

You should just be doing what you like instead of running after money but sure yeah, whatever.

Pledging for a Prosp without informing yourself certainly wasn't a great decision, that's a thing.

If you like stacking red wind, then ok, just do that.

[wraith tree]

you should be able to pop that regardless of it saying impossible

maybe hit it with a Surge, and mining gadget

[dusty current]

Damn you guys are always so funny. I bought the prosp years ago when mining was good. I haven't mined in two years, and I figured I'd try it lol, I did, and proved what I knew, it isn't profitable. Commenting on a conversation you haven't fully read wasn't a great decision, that's a thing.

I'm chasing money because I want to buy some new ships that I think are cool and I'm not in the financial situation to pledge for them, so yeah, grinding for currency in a game is like totally abnormal, my bad lmfao

[random patrol]

Honestly you needed someone to tag along

[spare cloud]

Mate you can just melt the prospector and buy something else for it.

[random patrol]

I find deposits all the time...

[dusty current]

or I can play the game, make the moeny in-game, and buy the ships in-game haha. I'll keep the prospector for when I want to try again, just like i've kept my other ships to play different loops. It's not that deep lol

[random patrol]

But like I said to each his/her own. Ive done salvage, hauling commodities using my own $ and mining.

[spare cloud]

You don't need to be so aggressive about mining not being as good as you wanted it to be and people telling you the reality of mining not as helpful as you wanted them to be.

It's not that deep lol

[silent cargo]

how do i get my cargo from the big production plants?

[dusty current]

Aggressive? damn, damn that's crazy snowflake, sorry I hurt your feelers

[spare cloud]

Angry if you prefer, but you definitely do not seem in your right mind talking about how mining is so disappointing and useless.

[dusty current]

I wasn't being aggressive, or trying to be atleast. I was just stating what I was experiencing.

[spare cloud]

Land and get it from the freight elevator.
There are either pads or hangars, those require calling ATC.

[silent cargo]

theres no ATC for me to call so im getting from pads

i didnt realize there were pads nowr did i know there was elevators

thank you

[compact plank]

I don't blame you. Mining has been up and down. Right now it's in it's biggest regression (unless your mining for wikelo and selling it to players, caranite etc).