industrial-professions

[sly robin]

I don't know

I put Golem in C2, drake pods in Golem, I go to aaron halo, get out in Golem, wander and mine

C2 is at 27GM, at last station

Asop says "Unknow"

[spare cloud]

Where are you seeing this distance ?

[sly robin]

On markers

And it's the exact same distance, and localization as my last station

[spare cloud]

Have you tried just looking for your ship on the starmap (F2) ?

[sly robin]

yes

says it is at 27.3GM aswell

Second time it happens

[hollow sedge]

anyone doing large cargo missions and wanna make 500k a pop

[quiet atlas]

hmm my ATLS will not remove crates off my RAFT wtf

[spare cloud]

Engines off ?

[quiet atlas]

ill try it ty

[jovial jasper]

yo gang does anyone know if the mole's default laser can mine dolivine?

[spare cloud]

They're way too powerful, you'll make them explode in half a 2nd mining from 150m at lowest power.

A Hofstede with two Focus module will probably be easier for that, but still quite powerful for gems.

And you can only collect them by hand

[jovial jasper]

aight thanks

[nocturne python]

Hey guys, anyone know if hull c works better now?

[faint quarry]

where can i go in the crusader system to find a refinery \

[spare cloud]

Look up the refinery list on regolith.rocks

[faint quarry]

so i got to refine my materials but now where are they and what do i do with them? im new to this style of mining

[spare cloud]

Once you set the refinery orders you can go mine again while your order is processing.

Once it's done, you can collect it to a cargo ship and sell it in a city

[faint quarry]

will it go to a cargo hold in the station? I cant find it at the cargo elevtator

it says nothing is in the thing not sure if i did something wrong

[spare cloud]

Until you collect it, it goes nowhere

When you do you can send it directly to a ship or to local inventory

[faint quarry]

so i have to collect it from the same terminal?

[spare cloud]

Yes

[faint quarry]

thanks gonna go check it out

[supple lava]

When 4.2.1 dropped there was a 66k hauling mission for CfP in Pyro (always collect from a surface outpost and deliver to a station). Since this hotfix, it seems to have disappeared for me. Has anyone else seen it recently?

[jovial jasper]

i've got a bunch of dolivine in my character's inventory, is there a way i can sell it?

[jovial matrix]

put it in a box, send the box down the freight elevator at a mining outpost, and sell it there

[jovial jasper]

aight thanks

[mild violet]

wait whatttt

they listened and added the "filter" (in the sense of small cargo / medium cargo missions)

LETS FRICKIN GO

[remote willow]

Known bug pull off the boxes with the basic multi-tool let them fall to the ground. Use Atlas to move them to freight elevator

[meager gorge]

How long does it take to grind to “experienced” level in hauling?

[rich berry]

It will depend

On what ships you have.

For the higher level ones you might need a c2. Or bigger

Cant remember if you will need the hull c

[jovial matrix]

its naked

[patent hemlock]

whats the point of master rank hauling missions since they are significantly less profitable than senior

[jovial matrix]

Completely scraped an 890 with my fortune. 5ish hours of work, 122 SCU of RMC, and 1.3mil in profit

[rigid crescent]

question, we have mined a couple of thousand scu and its stored at a refinery station, is there a way to load it to a hull c and transport it to the low orbit and then unload it for hand in?

[patent hemlock]

unload at the auto unloading station or maunally hand it off to a vehicle to land in a hanger

[rigid crescent]

i was hoping to use the auto load / unload but dont know how with my own cargo, just used to running the contracts

[patent hemlock]

its just unreliable for non contract cargo since you invested time into it

[rigid crescent]

ok maybe we'll just run it in smaller ships then

[verbal lintel]

There anything worth upgrading in the reclaimer besides QT and the salvage heads?

I noticed the powerplant is bespoke

[sharp swift]

The shield from other cap sized ships was better but that might've changed

[verbal lintel]

Hmm wonder if I can actually rip those from a polaris or something. The one time i went looking for components in the polaris I couldnt actually pull the parts

95% sure i unlocked ports

[sharp swift]

they might've locked them for balance reasons since it was widely used as a way to improve the survivability of the other ships

[reef zinc]

Is this from Urgent Boarding mission? Is it ok to scrape it without getting CS?

[jovial matrix]

yup, you just have to make sure all the guards are dead before you start scraping

[reef zinc]

Wait, this is actually perfect mission for the Reclaimer! The PDC’s will just kill the light fighters around.

[jovial matrix]

yeah true, theres only 2 fighters that spawn though, so its not a big deal even in a fortune/vulture

[idle blade]

are red wind hauling missions working in 4.2.1?

[limpid sluice]

yes

[mild pumice]

Yes, but with a couple of exceptions:

1. missions that pickup from multiple locations and drop at one only partially complete (cargo from only one of the locations is recognised) *also occurrs in Stanton

2. the location 'potential wildlife location' is inaccessible by ship (the worm location) Therefore these missions also cannot be completed.

Once you reach member rank the above issues account for 75% of missions so you're somewhat limited by what you can do.

[outer ridge]

For all my fellow hauling homies ❤️

[idle blade]

im just thinking about copper hauling missions in a hull C, can grab over 1500+ and use it for resource drive

[mild pumice]

I'm pretty sure they removed it

[idle blade]

some youtuber did it a day or 2 ago

[mild pumice]

Hmm

[idle blade]

i have the Hull C, just not the rep to try it out sadly

[mild pumice]

You wouldn't need a Hull C you can do those missions how you like, with a C2 multiple runs

[idle blade]

true, would take 2-3 C2 runs or 1 single Hull run but would have to unload manually into another ship at location anyway

[mild pumice]

Get a group of friends to strip the Hull C in space and each turn in their own missions

[idle blade]

i think 1 of the red wind haul missions give about 2100 copper in a single pickup location so even with 2-3 unloading would be much faster to complete it this route

[reef zinc]

I brought in a Reclaimer to an Urgent Boarding mission to scrape an 890 Jump. This was glorious!

[limpid sluice]

It was removed, I can confirm

[remote willow]

If I was just looking to crack big rocks with a Prospector what would be the ideal fitting? (Trying to punch up to the moles level)

Helix + Stampede + Rieger 3 I'm assuming?

[idle blade]

Cig doesnt want anyone to have fun in a “sandbox”

[tired inlet]

Sure would be neat if we could fit a GEO into the MOLE

The roof is just a little smidge too low

[quiet night]

How’s the hull c now?

[reef zinc]

Same old, same old

[quiet night]

Guess I will stick with the C2 for now then, ty for the info

[reef zinc]

I used the C2 to saved up money for Hull C. Then Hull C to saved up for a Reclaimer. Still good despite the bugs.

[quiet night]

I hardly touch my c2 now, so was thinking of upgrading it to the hull c just so it was getting used

[sharp swift]

I've heard many of the bugs surrounded Hull C hauling have been resolved

[quartz ledge]

Fellas, should I hold on to Ironclad or upgrade it to Hull C? It doesn't seem like Iron is coming anytime soon and Caterpillar is not my cup of tea, but on other hand been hearing Hull C being broken mess but at least it's in the game and there been attemps in fixing it.

I want to dip into space trucking

since combat missions rewards and vice got lobotomized

[reef zinc]

Once you get use to go around the bugs with Hull C, you can earn a lot of quick auec to buy other stuff in-game.

[quartz ledge]

Is there any up to date guide in video version how to navigate around said bugs and make most out of it?

[spare cloud]

If you're ok with it, I'd grab the Ironclad → Hull-C upgrade but hold on applying it until the IC release, possibly May 2026.

Or upgrade to BMM, have C2+Hull-C loaner and when IC releases IC+Hull-C maybe

-# +Defender for BMM loaner

[tired inlet]

The ironclad will come out before all the HullC bugs are resolved.

[quartz ledge]

Can Hull C deliver cargo to planetary targets, like cities and outposts?

[chilly tundra]

not really

it can't land

[quartz ledge]

So even cities don't get cargo cube thingy?

[limpid sluice]

Hull C calculates and is influenced by the weight of cargo. You will drop like a rock if you're too heavy within a gravity well

[livid root]

anyone able to let me know what i need to solo break these?

[spare cloud]

Snap a Sabir gadget on the rock, and activate your Surge module too.

[livid root]

@spare cloudthanks, i have never used a gadget yet will buy a few, been solo moling ^^

[spare cloud]

A gadget can be used several times if you don't go in the red at all, but I've always had a hard time finding my gadget back on surface.

In space, it always stays exactly where it was if you don't overcharge.

[livid root]

yea, i just finished gathering 500 event scu ores, debating whether to keep mining or try to find a server with elevators working

and i think like most things they fall through the floor ^^

i saw rocks that could be mined inside bigger rocks that couldnt

[covert glacier]

Is there any veterans with the mole available that could offer me an in-depth tutorial on how to loop the event cargo? I've got the funds in game to buy additional components for the ship to outfit it as needed. Really could use some help if anyone has time to spare.

[austere comet]

how much does max $$$ master hauling pay?

[mild pumice]

Around 400k in Stanton and 525k in Pyro

There's no new Hull C hauls in Stanton when you reach master in case you wondered, they're the same as the senior ones just they pay slightly more.

[delicate terrace]

is there any cargo elevator that isn't broken? no wonder its so far down the list

[mild pumice]

It's getting harder to find one now as obviously once they're stuck they're broken until the next maintenance. So with that in mind the number of working elevators continues to decline

[viral harbor]

so if i put in a workorder to refine something thatll take forever...... can i leave the station and expect the product to finish when i come back?

[long frost]

Question: I can't see red wind hauling missions in pyro although I did them in the past and I'm member rank. Does it have a specific reason? For example reputation? I'm ally with headhunters, could that be the reason?

[thorny maple]

solo argo mole
anyone got recommendations for loadouts?
and where can i get most/all passive mining modules

[mighty lily]

what are the best circular trade routes for the starlancer max?

i've been doing mic-l1 to cru-l1 route recently

[main grove]

Hull C users if I dock at a station when doing cargo hauling missions. Once docked does the cargo transfer or do i have to go into the station to request it

[slate spruce]

Check regolith.rocks for what to get where you can buy lasers/modules. The best stock is imho in New Babbage at Shubin mining (unsurprisingly).

Pre-4.0 I ran mole with Helix + 2xReiger + Focus as the middle laser, and on the sides Arbor + 2x Focus and Hofstede + Rieger + Focus (everything the highest tier)

Helix was for big rocks, Arbor for lazy secondary cracks. Hofstede for the stuff in-between.

[sharp swift]

Big breaks: (8k-26k mass) Helix w/ 2 reigers and 1 focus
Mid to small breaks: Hofstede w/ 2 focus
3rd laser is Impact w/ 3 XL filters on it to reduce inert material collection (only 26~% inert collected (a 74~% reduction))

If you go out solo, be mindful of turbulence/windy conditions pushing you around. There are locations that have no atmosphere and no turbulence

[carmine valley]

Alright you folks, I have a question

AvengerSquadron is openly recruitmenting for our fleet devision, where can I find good men and woman willing to run cap ships 🚢 🤔

[sharp swift]

#1359577590024896762

[covert glacier]

Anyone familiar with the mole willing to spend some time giving me a tutorial at some point today? I could pay you for your time. Mainly looking to loop event cargo. I've got the funds to outfit the Mole with whatever components I may need for the loadout.

[dreamy scaffold]

where and what's the best mineral to mine for the event?

[olive gull]

check this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOEStGtMHvg

[unique anvil]

any workaround for not being able to buy the last SCU available?

[remote willow]

Personally I've been having great success in Pyro especially with all the madness that's been going on in Stanton

Tons of copper and tungsten, not so much corrodum

[burnt flame]

ayo i need some help making 23 mil any suggestions?

hull C doesn't work anymore so i can't make money

[mighty lily]

buy partillium in sacren's plot, sell at bueno/jackson's swap or canard view

bueno has the best sell price and the most of pirates

[glossy ether]

Where are go going mining in pyro? I tryed astro mining, but i dont like it. I often scanned the same Rock 3 times because oft cant check or mark wich i impossible or worthless...
Moons are only by pyro5? Solo with prospektor, long travel für max 48scu.

[remote willow]

Planetside, I have a particular spot I like to go to but I'd rather not announce it publicly until the event is over.

It helps I have a Idris filled with Drake bags, I keep a prospector on board to crack bigger rocks but 85 SCU size rocks seem to be my hard limit.

[slate spruce]

Hi, I'm considering getting a Hull C - is it worth the aUEC and effort to learn using it? I've heard that it's often buggy, but when it's not, is the payout decent? Can you combine missions, or is it better to always only haul one?

[covert glacier]

Hey guys, I just got a mole. Looking to loop the event cargo. Currently building my loadout. I've seen some suggestions about either going Helix 2, or Hofstede-S2. I could use some advice. I pick up things fairly quickly and can handle small power windows. Which setup would you guys reccomend for the event?

I've seen suggested: Helix 2- Surge/surge/Focus 3.

Also been suggested: Hofstede-S2 - Stampede/Rieger-C3

[remote willow]

Just do a cursory search in this channel to see how often people have problems with that ship. I would heavily reconsider getting it before they iron it out

[remote willow]

If it was me
Set up one turret for besting big rocks.

One for cracking all the little ones from said big rock

And one for scooping

[covert glacier]

That sounds fantastic, however a more in depth setup recommendation on the actual parts would be helpful if you have any additional information.

[spare cloud]

This is what I'm running with as a Solo. With the Hofstede being totally useless. It was supposed to be the low power rock when the others are too big, but cracking in space, I never had a scenario where I can make a use of it.

The Helix is the high power, and the Impact is both low power and extraction, so I can mostly ignore inert materials.

[remote willow]

I mean, regolith got the stats for you. It's more of a how you like to handle it than a meta setup.

Pick your poison preference in other words

[covert glacier]

Oh this is awesome. Love the professional layout. Is this a website?

[spare cloud]

The only thing I could use this Hofstede for is if I go mining on surface and see gems.
With such a lower power head, I could be cracking the gems without exploding them too hard.

[remote willow]

Google regolith Star Citizen

[spare cloud]

Look attentively at the bottom of the pic

[quartz ledge]

I must say that thing with unloading RAFT directly onto landing pad of the hangar and storing ship is one nifty trick, only if one layer bug was resolved cargo missions would be breeze

[covert glacier]

I appreciate the information. This will help a lot. Normally I am more patient and learn things on my own a bit more slowly. However given the circumstances, I am trying to just get this event over with as soon as possible. So been looking to expedite the loadout and learning process in favor of results.

[remote willow]

If your goal is to get this done as fast as possible mining isn't it.
hauling is way faster

[covert glacier]

Do you have any recommendations or suggestions on which areas you loop and which station you use for refining?

[spare cloud]

I think I'd rather have a 2nd Power head instead of the Hofstede for when I have a friend on board.

A 2nd helix

[covert glacier]

Elevators are broken. Not having that discussion. Just spent 300 dollars to bypass the elevator problem. Done with freight elevators.

[remote willow]

Suit yourself, I'm more mining because I want to avoid the bugs and more importantly crowd / attention in Stanton right now.

That said, mining has a very long turnaround time. And a pretty steep learning curve, even for the simple stuff.

You're going to have to learn some patience

[glossy ether]

Yes same me. It takes long but i like the gameloop. Cargo Hauling after 1600 4scu boxes is so boring..

[fallen osprey]

Hey yall, what is the best way to grind out the new event? I have so far only really had huge progress with mining actually which I hear is very dlow

Slow*

And cargo hauling seems glitch af atm with the elevators basically only working a quarter of the time lol

How do we deal with the freight elevator being full bug?

[jovial matrix]

best way Ive seen is to find a server with large cargo retrieval missions that are working, and doing them with an idris/polaris

requires a capital ship though

[jovial matrix]

I'd just try and find a low pop server to do the cargo missions on

[tall karma]

100% does NOT require a capital ship. I've done them in a Taurus and TAC easily. The Cap ship strat just means you can focus on cargo retrieval and ignore the escorts

You can also do the large retrieval FPS missions which don't features require combat either. Just get close in the Raft and scoop up the 10-13x 8scu boxes.

Before I started doing these laege cargo retrieve in a polaris, I used a fighter like my F7A or Sabre, take out the guards, board ship, and bring it back to the station with all the cargo

[jovial matrix]

50 SCU of cargo in a cutty red, could've fit another 8 if I packed it correctly

[quartz ledge]

Anyone got up to date rep grind guide for cargo contracts? Still doing Juniors in RAFT

[limpid sluice]

For which company? Covalex? Red wind?

[quartz ledge]

Stanton system

[olive gull]

well done!

[limpid sluice]

#industrial-professions message here and also the message from the guy below me, although the current event may have impacted some of those missions

[coarse cape]

Can you find the event stuff in space or is it only surface cuz solo mole surface mining is pain for me

[spare cloud]

I was mining it in Hur-L2 but there are several other space locations with event ores.

Check regolith 👍

[coarse cape]

Wonder if halo would be viable

I know last time I went out there corundum was somewhat common

[quartz ledge]

Ah yeah, think I'll pause rep grind until event ends then or try Pyro in meantime

[spare cloud]

Nah, too hard, too much time consuming

Not worth it IMO

[sharp swift]

Try Lyria or Wala, they have no atmosphere so no turbulence

[coarse cape]

how is halo too hard its stupid easy to get into to

[lofty drift]

hello, im trying to mine at cru-l3 however i am here and there is literally nothing, no asteroids

[modern sparrow]

Is there any mention of when issues with the hull c will be fixed?

[olive gull]

they supposed to had fix it already on this patch...

[fallen osprey]

I havent done much in the halo. But I know asteroids are normally smaller and normally less valuable than planet side deposits.

Ironically a mole is better for planet mining simply because it has more powerful lasers and if you have 3 people you can break pretty big rocks.

[quartz ledge]

Huh, so for once Reddit didn't trolled me, you can deliver one part of cargo fully and submit rest to get full rep

[quartz ledge]

just need to find out how to get rid of excess of cargo boxes that are left, can't sell them cause they're "contracted"

[earnest rose]

Even faster: you can just pull them up the elevator then submit. No delivery needed
You can offload them at grim hex (at a highly reduced value)

[meager gorge]

Is there a good tutorial video on how to use UEX to see routes and stuff? I think it’s a very useful site but it’s not very intuitive for me. I’m sure it’s simple once you figure it out though

[quick narwhal]

Member rank for hull c missions?

[quartz ledge]

From what I know Hull C worthy contracts starts on next rank - Experianced

[quick narwhal]

Fffuuuck

[quartz ledge]

I'm grinding Member with RAFT Everus > Lorvile, contracts with multiple drop off but just offloading at Teasa and submiting rest, but I'm left with unwanted cargo and don't know how to get rid of it cause soon my starage will be full

Huh, I managed to sell some at cargo market in Lorvile

[quick narwhal]

I mean you get a junior and rookie mission from area 18 to BP and then a return trip as well.

[quartz ledge]

Those give little rep

[quick narwhal]

Of course all the member interstellar cargo missions run though everest harbor, so I get blown up immediately at an om point

[cobalt rivet]

Do those mining gadgets you strap to the rocks stack stats?

[quick narwhal]

I just watched a video, seems the microtech small planet side delieverys are the fastest xp

[quartz ledge]

can you link it?

[quick narwhal]

https://youtu.be/vlbBPCfuPho?si=MqfeyHpS2XVG2mqF

Its bookmarked by rank

[quartz ledge]

might give it a go and pair it up with one location submit trick

[nocturne python]

Hey guys does the hull c work better now? I used it a lot a couple patches ago and it was very very buggy, could never dock and often couldnt get ur cargo either. Is it any better now?

[quick narwhal]

From. What ive seen its working great. Docking is still iffy

[limpid sluice]

So you're getting full or at least good rep gain with partial cargo submissions in Stanton?

[meager gorge]

Where can you buy or get osoanian hides

[quartz ledge]

I think so, after two 4 contracts runs I was half way the rank - RAFT holds 4 small Member contracts

[bright sundial]

The rmc i have stored in orison doesnt show up in the tdd commodity kiosk, did they change it or is it bugged?

[urban sentinel]

How do people like the asgard for hauling? I currently have one regardless of hauling, as i like the ship a lot and its my multicrew ship for a friend of mine and I, but im thinking i would like some mroe space than my c1 and I already have the asgard.

[mild pumice]

It's got loads of space but a few annoyances such as the grid being 5 wide but you can fit boxes off grid at the side and there's additional space by the side doors.

One thing I've noticed is it's very dark when loading from outside, I need to check if there's additional lighting (maybe someone knows?)

Primarily it is a vehicle transporter, and it does that exceptionally well with the ability to haul as a bonus.

Just to add, I've used my Asgard almost exclusively for Resource Drive, collecting the large stolen, small ship recovery and even the large haul. For the large haul you will need to put 13 boxes off grid but you can fit at least 10 loose at the front, 8 by the rear doors 8 down one side without losing access to the rear.

I've had a small and medium together, so over 230scu

@urban sentinel

[urban sentinel]

good to know. Ive been renting a raft for resource drive, as i imagine its the fastest with its cargo being able to be attached to the bottom, but seems like the asgard can still work as a hauler. Thank you!

[mild pumice]

Yeah the RAFT is definitely faster to load, I'd say considerably so for the event due to having to mess around with the off grid boxes, but I feel safer in the Asgard, with a friend (or even solo) you have a decent amount of firepower

[lyric yew]

with the RAFT if you attach an ATLS to the bottom it can cause issues right now. It can get stuck and if you unattach it in your hangar and get in, it can despawn your hangar and teleport you out. It's not safe. With the Asgard, you can keep an ATLS inside and use it for all your box moving in and out.

[urban sentinel]

I've just been using the atlss people have been leaving at the pads for the most part lol

[urban sentinel]

Yeah makes sense. It's definitely going to be my standard cargo hauler after the event if nothing else

[solar citrus]

I've been making LOTS of money doing Partillium runs from Sacren's Plot in Pyro... 2m profit per run... and nobody is there because of the event in Stanton...

[mild pumice]

If you want to keep it that way perhaps don't tell everyone on Discord

Friendly A2 incoming 🔥

[gloomy furnace]

is there like an unbelievably fast way to get max salvage rep? like go to the missions and 5 secs later im going to the next one kinda fast

and also how big do the ships get for high rep salvaging?

[urban sentinel]

@noble viper spammer here

Idk if @ modmail is how i get the attention of the mods lol

[solar citrus]

Just join a low pop server and enjoy the easy run. Not a fan of gatekeeping info...

[urban sentinel]

i sent them a dm through modmail

[spare cloud]

Why would #industrial-professions care tho

Anyway, two things :

• Don't spam ModMail for useless stuff too hard if you don't wanna be backlisted
• And we're !notCIG

[urban sentinel]

? Someone sent a bunch of pictures regarding a Mr beast free giveaway in this channel

I wasn't sure how to let them know

[spare cloud]

That's usually automatically handled after a few seconds.

[urban sentinel]

Ah ok, I see. I'll keep that in mind, I just wanted to let someone know about it

Didn't know it's an auto thing

[spare cloud]

Sorry I didn't see the scammer myself and thought you were calling yourself a @noble viper spammer.

[urban sentinel]

Oh lmao, I can see how that would be confusing

[spare cloud]

Also you're supposed to DM @noble viper if you wanna reach out to the mods

@-ing it does nothing

[urban sentinel]

Yeah I did that after reading the mod mail thing

[spare cloud]

Which you did

[urban sentinel]

Once again will remember for next time

Yeah lmao

[sharp swift]

hola folks, did the hotfix fix the elevators?

[spare cloud]

Fixed the stacking issue

Not the overload elevators

[sharp swift]

Sounds like one step forward with no steps back, pog

[gloomy furnace]

Could anybody tell me what the highest salvage contract fee is? wanna know if im there yet

[spare cloud]

I think 50k, putting aside the large 200k contract in Pyro

[gloomy furnace]

does the 200k contract give a giant ship?

[spare cloud]

A bunch of small-large ships iirc

[crude thunder]

any major differences between the new tractor beam heads? Looking for what I can upgrade my Vulture for

[urban sentinel]

how do you force a low pop server?

[solar citrus]

just join on a friend?

[olive gull]

he means a low population server, like AUS or ASIA

[urban sentinel]

heh, you underestimate my power of all of my friends only getting on when i tell them lets play some star citizen

[urban sentinel]

gotcha, i imagine ping is horrible though

[solar citrus]

thats why you add a lot on random ppl and have a large friends list

for server hopping

[spare cloud]

It doesn't matter.
Experience in SC is a lot more enjoyable on a low pop server with 300+ ping than on a crowded server with 20 ping

Only for PvP does ping matter.

[urban sentinel]

fair enough, ill try going to AUS or ASIA

[long frost]

Yeah that's what I did and now I've got low pop (40-70 weekdays) to high pop (200-400 weekends) steadily available. Although I count 400+ as high pop since I mostly play solo

[glossy ether]

Hello everyone, i like solo moon mining with prospektor but i will optimize it. Idea is to stay a raft full with molebags at some outpost at the moon in armistice zone. Than go mining an change the full bags by the raft..using this as base. When raft has full bag going to rafinery. Should this work or will the raft been deleted from the server after a while. In armistice zone should it be safe for player.

[jovial matrix]

that seems a lot riskier, and not much faster, than just dropping the ore off at a refinery each time you fill up

[glossy ether]

Flying to station-refinery takes lot of time and makes no fun. So i will try stay at moon with 2 ship, mining + cargo. But i dont know how long i can "park" a ship in sc somewhere until the server delete it

I will this gameloop also zry with the vulture + raft. Parking raft somewhere in space than go salvagen.
Cargo space is a big Problem in this small solo ships

[remote willow]

You're going to have a blast with this strategy with the ironclad comes out

[glossy ether]

This is a much to big ship for solo player. So iam trying strategies to optimize current solo gameloops. In Mining and salvaging there is loosing to much time because of the small cargo. Prospektor is so fast full with ore.

A prospektor should have 200scu and a mole 600-1000.

[remote willow]

Hardly

[remote willow]

Now you're dreaming

[remote willow]

If you want to optimize solo loops your best bet is going to be the Vulture/Golem. Golem over the prospector because it can carry a ton of gadgets and modules to change your needs on the fly. (You can't carry anything on the prospector save for maybe 1/8 SCU boxes and whatever you can fit in your backpack)
Utilizing a RAFT or similar ship would be a good idea if you had a second account or player to help run it. Otherwise you're wasting time overall with the setup and transferring items.

Your better off just running to a station. At least until base building comes in and you can build a small bunker somewhere to deposit resources near where you're operating.

Vulture with a little bit of skill with stacking can carry between 39 and 41 depending on your proficiency on stacking. Aim for 41, but don't waste your time trying to perfect it. 40 is acceptable.

With salvage missions, and panels being easy to find it's fairly easy to maximize your SCU per hour with salvaging.
Mining's going to require more luck and research. What ore is more profitable, where said ore is most common, where in relation to that spot is a good refinery.
There is an argument to be had about using the Mole over the Golem or prospector. It definitely offers more versatility, but it's also more work, slower and cumbersome. I'd love to see a head-to-head SCU per hour race to see which mining ship does more by a solo player.

For salvaging I think that question has been firmly answered with the Vulture

A little caveat to your cargo ship idea.

It works out significantly better if you have a ship that can carry another ship. IE A Fortune or Golem.

Having a ship set up with either of these ships (such as An Ironclad, Polaris, Idris) for the Fortune or even a smaller hauler for the Golem allows for quicker larger drop offs overall.

[glossy ether]

Thanks for this explanatation. This makes totaly sense. Mole maybe will be my next ship for duo mining with a friend. Golem+capital ship isnt a option because i dont have one. 😅

[quartz ledge]

Wait, so submitting cargo mission without doing anything still gives you rep without consequences?

[random creek]

any tips on mining Tungsten with a Prospector? They seem to be all impossible

I have the Helix and reiger

[glossy ether]

You know this webseite? There are many good spots for mining and good overview. Best minig site
https://regolith.rocks/

Helix + focus3 and rieger 3 is currently very good.

[random creek]

Ty

[quartz ledge]

Finally hit Experienced with cargo, now it's where the fun begins

and btw is Hull C landing gear bugged? Can't rectract it or deploy

[random creek]

keep trying, stand up and sit back in pilot seat. make sure spindle is retracted

[vestal ravine]

My resource crates don't register as legal after abandoning the mission.

No rep...

[quartz ledge]

Don't abandon, submit.

[vestal ravine]

I can't. I put them in my Reclaimer then bed log till I get enough so most show as stolen.

[quartz ledge]

Why you bed log during cargo mission? o.O

[vestal ravine]

Not gonna fly back to Orison for just 20 to 50 scu.

I also salvage the nearby mission ships.

[quartz ledge]

I chose violence, big boom solved gear problem

[obtuse flower]

Did they nerf the price of quant? Eux is showing it at 22k/scu

[pearl juniper]

It's been about that as long as I can remember. At least a year

[obtuse flower]

Really? I feel like beginning of the year it was like 350k

So who is really going to move quantanium and risk blowing their ship up

[limpid sluice]

Refined quant does not explode?

And I also don't believe the price has changed significantly, if at all, at least since 3.23

[spare cloud]

Highest it has been was 50k, like 2 years ago. Been 25-22k for a while now.

100k+ only when sold to players for Wikelo

[obtuse flower]

I see, maybe i was mis remembering

[sand veldt]

does anybody knows the best route for junior rank in hauling

[mild pumice]

Local missions but avoid the broken outposts. DCs are good

Junior doesn't take long tbh

[last karma]

is there a way to get stuck cargo off of a ships grid? I have like 600 scu of event materials stuck on my c2

[tall karma]

Are you standing almost on top of the cargo, and using a hand tractor beam?

[last karma]

I tried with atls and maxlift

[tall karma]

If so, and still stuck, try storing and retrieving.

You have to be inside the ship sometimes right next to the cargo to get it working

[last karma]

yeah I tried storing and bringing out, ended up just self destructing it

[robust fern]

hi, anyone knows if i can use polaris as a mining carrier with a prospector?

[jovial matrix]

you definitely can

[quick narwhal]

My hull c is just constantly getting the stop moving message during drop off. Any tricks?

[mild pumice]

Once I stop I turn the engines off with 'i'

[glossy ether]

What happens? I also had this after i used the atls in space station and glitched throughbthe station and died. After respawn ship was stored and boxes was fixed. I had this 2 times. Tryed all incl. Server change. Nothing works.
Now i never use atls in space station. For atls i land at planet-city. I didnt thrust the station floor....it has holes.

[long frost]

One trick (which I use) is: Once your ship stands still in the cube, strafe a tiny bit to any direction (like 1 - 2 m/s) for a fraction of a second and stop. Then it should commence the loading/unloading.

[long frost]

That too, so you don't accidentally move the ship during the process

[remote willow]

Silly question, but did you make sure CPLD mode is on?

[quick narwhal]

Ah dude this works sick

[quartz ledge]

Anyone got workaround for Hull C stuck landing gear and unable to undock? Apart from self boom solution

[long frost]

So you only have the issue when it's docked? Calling ATC doesn't undock you?

[quartz ledge]

Well it's two separate issues, landing gear won't work after spawning in the hangar, I have to QT but then can't deploy them back.

[remote willow]

Have you tried spamming the docking request / hanger request?

It should fix both issues

[quick narwhal]

Now is there a trick for it only taking off like 1 box and then completing?

[long frost]

Umm, as far as I know not. Also had this issue and had to switch servers. I have a feeling that certain stations work better than others. Personally I run with Terra to Pyro when it's available. Others prefer Terra - Magnus since it's the most "stable" route and it's basically only frequented by hull c's

[urban sentinel]

does the freelancer max have a tractor beam attached? im looking into it as an upgrade to my c1. Cant get a raft as my c1 is an lti referral upgrade

othereise the next one im looking at (for cargo hauling) is probably the zeus cl, if anyone has any thoughts on that

[past fractal]

Zeus is a horrid cargo ship... it's grid and bay are dogwater... freemax doesn't have a tractor

[random patrol]

I have a starlancer max as my main.....its not that bad...I just hate the belly cargo holds.

[past fractal]

Honestly, most cargo ships in this game are logistical nightmares.... no same logistics person would use them or request them be designed the way they are

Moving cargo is about efficiency, not artwork. None of the artists who worked on these can even spell logistics I'm fairly certain...

It sucks being an afterthought to, "what will the new fighter meta enjoy shooting the most?"

[quick narwhal]

Yea i was doing terra to pyro and it happened l, unloaded 19 scu and then stopped completely

[glossy ether]

Thats 100% rigth. Imo Raft, Hull A + C are the only 3 cargo ships they are logistical great.
All other ships are bad, stupid...

[long frost]

Did server switching help?

[quick narwhal]

I didn't try it bc I was going to have to either unload my hullc or claim it

[long frost]

Oh okay. In this case and if it's only a few boxes I qt away from the station, eva and yeet the cargo into space. If it's too much backspace and claim haha

[urban sentinel]

rip, oh well. Ill probably hold on to my c1 till the ironclad comes out, already have a ccu chain to that ready

[tall karma]

Had to wait like 5 minutes once for it to clear

[subtle valley]

exit and reenter the cube is another fix I believe

[tall karma]

Another trick is to QT away a short distsance from the station to get your cargo ATC removed, come back, and drive over to the cargo area and park right in front of a completely different cargo pod before calling cargo ATC and see if the new box works.

[quick narwhal]

Yea i tried this one, you said 5 min? You just waited?

[tall karma]

Yeah, just parked stationary for 5 mins, and eventually it triggered.

[lavish wharf]

Hi guys ! Any advices about the best QD for my Starlancer Max ? I'm doing long distance travel, I'd like to reduce it but i'm hesitating

[gloomy furnace]

hey does anybody want to donate to my reclaimer fund (8mil atm)

im lowk desperate

[jovial matrix]

thats unfortunate, cause you still have a long ways to go

[gloomy furnace]

ugh is my only option hull c hauling?

and if it is, is it better to do the 700k missions or trading

and if it isnt what should i do to make money

[jovial matrix]

if you have a big enough cargo hauler, you can do the large cargo retrieval missions. Salvaging isn't an insane money maker, but its good and consistent

can mine quant and sell it to other players, that should make decent money

[gloomy furnace]

how do you sell to other players

just give them the boxes and they transfer

[jovial matrix]

yeah, party up and meet in someone hangar. you pull up the quant on the FE, and then they send it back down

Have them send you the money first probably

[gloomy furnace]

ok

what should be charged?

like per scu?

[jovial matrix]

I'd check uexcorp and maybe #1019852856460853258 / #market-street for prices

[gloomy furnace]

aight

[jovial matrix]

seems the going rate is about 100k per SCU

[gloomy furnace]

oh damn

mine in arons belt right?

[jovial matrix]

that I dont know, I dont do ship mining

[gloomy furnace]

ok ill look that up

[feral crane]

How does one go about fixing the issue where no cargo is transferring even tho it says it should be

It loaded a 2 SCU and a 4 SCU

Its refusing to load the rest

Im in a Hull C

[gloomy furnace]

what is better for the hull C? 700k hauling contracts or commodity trading

[spare cloud]

Do you enjoy losing a few millions in under a minute ?

[remote willow]

Hull C pilots really need their own channel with a bot that just repeats the same message for the same questions that gets asked everyday

Yes its still bugged, no it doesn't print money, It's an okay ship, there are other ways to make money in game, no you can't fly it in atmosphere loaded.

[glossy ether]

Yesterday i try normal cargo hauling mission in stanton wich brings me to a Distribution center to deliver. But there, the turrents shot me? Why, i was des deliver destination?
Is cargo hauling broken or iam stupid?

[burnt flame]

yea idk this patch really messed the hull C up cuz 4.2 worked really well for the hull C.

[mild pumice]

Hull C loading is ultra dependant on server performance so with the increased amount of people in Stanton and low server FPS it exuberates the issues

Most of the time it's around 5fps again when it has been a steady 12-15 which makes a massive difference (thanks Resource Drive lol)

[remote willow]

It was released too damn early. They should have held it until the system was ready to handle it

[mild pumice]

I'm tempted to have a go at the Hull C missions that go between Stanton and Pyro since I've unlocked them now, they go both ways so you could just chain them. The gateway server might not be so bad as the main planets

[mild pumice]

Nah they just made the wrong decision with loading, it should have been regular paid automatic loading like other ships and continue to work on the external manual loading areas

[remote willow]

The staggering amount of people I see complain about it everyday both on discord and in global chat says otherwise I'd think

[mild pumice]

Yeah they complain because it doesn't work

To be fair the regular auto loading isn't great either lol

[glossy ether]

Can i salvage meanwhile ik armistice zones without getting crimestat?

[compact geode]

can we attach a mining laser to a raft hauler ? or are they restricted to mining ships ?

[spare cloud]

Mining ships only

[slate spruce]

I have to say, using gadgets does have its advantages (optimax, +60% clustering rate) 🙂

[stiff tiger]

If I rent a raft is it more profitable to run junior grade box missions or do commodity trading?

[lunar lynx]

As a solo player, would it more practical to get galaxy with cargo module or ironclad to to do cargo missions trading ?

[slate spruce]

Hard to say since neither of them are in game yet. As we've seen many times, stuff can look good on paper, and then have some huge impracticality when released

[lunar lynx]

I have a vulture , Asgard , Corsair , mtc. And I thought to make the Corsair into paladin and the vulture into galaxy/ironclad as the the rest can be bought ig

[tall karma]

Most will advise that a dedicated role ship is always better than a modular one. The Galaxy is like half the capacity of the IC. If you want a ship that does more than hauling and you want it to do at least 3 jobs that the modules support, that's when a modular ship makes more sense.

Galaxy is in my fleet since I plan to pair it with Golem + Refinery, Starter Salvage + Cargo, and eventually the Base Building module.

So it will be my full industrial support ship since I prefer combat over industry gameplay

[lunar lynx]

That’s what I’m leaning towards. Paladin being the combat ship , Asgard bunker , and something for cargo as I’ll pair a vulture with a Polaris for salvage or mining. I was thinking about the galaxy being approx 640 scu if you fill the hold elevators etc. or the ironclad but I’m not sure how long it will take a solo player to fill 1500+ scu solo or more if not on grid

[tall karma]

Your Polaris is probably just as practical as the galaxy for cargo.

[lunar lynx]

Eh yeah sorta just the station not having xl pads

And auto load doesn’t stick anything into the hangar

To really maxime the space

Otherwise your stuck to 688

How much are the modules btw ?

If they are 100+ then ironclad it is

[lavish wharf]

When will b the galaxy available ?

[lunar lynx]

Next year prob , Perseus is coming and galaxy is the next ship after that. Given the modules it has its prob not ready

I wish ironclad will be available this year

[elder turtle]

Tried the align and mine yesterday. We had multi tools with mining attachments, which would not work on any of the caranite (even at 100% power, it never charged). And when we used the ATLS geo, it would always explode (we never got it in the red, the green bar charged and it would explode and kill everyone in the cave). Is there a trick to mining the caranite?

[past fractal]

A GEO laser at minimum power is the equivalent of 3 hand tools at 100%. Either use more than one hand tool, or get really touchy with the GEO

[lavish wharf]

Is there a huge difference between the golem and the misc prospector ? i'm thinking about starting mining

[tall karma]

This is a problem with the multi-tools. I found you have to use a freshly purchased standard yellow one from the cargo centers If you use one that is part of your hangar rewards, and most of the non-standard color multi-tools, they seem to not work with the mining attachment.

Those "broken" multi-tools do work alright with the tractor beam and medical attachments, but for whatever reason they break the mining UI so you can only succeed with audio queues, and usually will fail.

[weary crescent]

anyone know why mole start moving slowly when I leave the pilot seat?

[spare cloud]

Because wind

[mild violet]

please tell me of the other ways

[mighty lily]

commodity trading with planes like hercules with autoload, you can make like 500k from one run, probably more if you were to load it manually you could fit a lot more scu inside the hercules. you could as well try commodity trading in pyro, high risk high reward, you can earn millions there but beware of pirates. you need someone to back you up with this. i mean i guess you could do it solo on low population server but there's always a risk you're gonna get pirated

[mighty lily]

hull c is just so unreliable

[viral harbor]

Autoload Hella expensive tho isn't it.

[mighty lily]

idk it costs me less than 5k to load full starlancer max so i doubt it's hella expensive on bigger ships like hercules

[viral harbor]

o, they mustve changed dat

[mild violet]

And for smaller player with largest ship being raft?

Like I guess the same applies just smaller scale

The main advantage over contracts is you can autoload I guess

[leaden monolith]

In the Raft I can load up manually faster than the autoload and I don't charge myself 5k or whatever it is.

[sullen anvil]

Does anyone own a starfarer? I’m stuck outside pyro gateway with no qt fuel

[spare cloud]

Do you have any valuable stuff that justifies not logging off or killing yourself ?

[sullen anvil]

Obviously, I’m full of cargo

[spare cloud]

Do you have a larger cargo ship or identical one ?

[sullen anvil]

I have a Polaris

[spare cloud]

That's what you're flying or something else than you have ?

Anyway, you can kill yourself and QT back there with an other ship that'll be able to take all that cargo.

[pearl juniper]

You are at the station? Can't refuel?

[spare cloud]

Just don't claim the stranded ship. That would mean abandoning the ownership, and not being able to QT back to it.

[spare cloud]

Oh yeah didn't notice that part

You can't just land and refuel ?

[mighty lily]

i guess so

[spare cloud]

Or dock

[sullen anvil]

Reclaimer can’t land on stations there are no extra large hangars

[pearl juniper]

Can you dock? I haven't played with the reclaimer to much... Or land on a pad?

You should be able to refuel if you can touch down on a pad. Even if you don't really fit

[spare cloud]

Reclaimer docking ports aren't impkemented

It can only land

[spare cloud]

You can land it sideways on the external landing !pads to refuel

[jolly dagger]

Ship Landing

Some stations have external Landing Pad.

You can also use the Landing services here.

[pearl juniper]

I was wondering if that was the case

[mighty lily]

so with raft you probably want to stack rookie contracts from baijini to riker or seraphim to orison which gives you like 300-400k per run but it takes a bit of time loading these 1scu boxes even with the tractor beam

commodity trading in raft will always give you less money than stacking contracts but with commodities u can select box size and grab 6x 32 scu boxes and load them really fast

[sullen anvil]

the pad was a good idea i landed on a pad and refueled that way, thanks, the reclaimer cant dock

[coral pendant]

LF Crew to salvage with my Reclaimer. Send me a message on Discord and ill get beck to you.

[spare cloud]

Use #looking-for-session

Sounds sketchy too

[cobalt rivet]

does anyone here still use Gadgets when they mine? I noticed every time I would hold F to zoom and toggle the frequencies, once I was done and zoomed back out, I would get stuck in walking mode. Not sure if I am pressing something by accident or its a bug, but it seems to also prevent me from turning when I am in my ship

[open plaza]

today I am watching a bar fill up EXTREMELY slowly

Mining is actually fun

ngl

still on the same rock

[vestal ravine]

Is Stileron still in the game at Sacren's Plot? In SC Trade Tools it was not shown in the tables. Arrrgghh they temporarily removed commodities...

[brisk sand]

prospector or golem

[minor olive]

hi, im looking for a good, cheap mining loadout for a prospector

at least for the mining lazer for now

[minor olive]

after salvaging a ship, how do i view how much we have? and what do we do with it?

[meager gorge]

whats the best way to grind covalex rep? I have a RAFT, taurus, C2 and a Hull C, id like to ge to using the big Hull C missions eventually

[vestal ravine]

Hi check your readouts as you are lasering the ship or at the Hopper station. I sell my RMC and CM at Orison TDD.

[slate spruce]

Best to wait until they fix the elevators, then head to mT. The best missions for rep grind are small local deliveries, you can best stack them. Do the ones with single pickup point and one or more delivery points. You need 5 rookie missions to get to Junior, no idea there (too long ago, too fast, forgotten already). Then 10 Junior to get to Member. For that there is a trio of missions going from a DC to one Rayari outpost. Then for Member you have 6 stackable missions going from Tressler to NB, Greycat and Sakura. Member already has some Hull C missions, but they're not that great. You need 20 Member to get to Experienced. Experienced has 3 missions going from Tressler to SMO 10+13+18+22, and decent Hull C ones.
Everything can be done in Taurus or RAFT, the biggest load you'll get on Member, up to ~125 SCU combined. Bring an ATLS and a pen&paper to make notes.

You can combine missions from different ranks, but they can have overlapping cargo types, and you need to take care to which contract does which box belong.
Oh, and 2 out of the 6 Member missions are currently disabled, because they contain Corundum and Tungsten.

[random patrol]

100% love mining. Its chill and makes decent $

[random patrol]

I only own and use a prospector but from what I know of the golem it has a fixed laser you cant swap out for other models. Fwiw mining is somewhat chill and makes decent $ imo

[random patrol]

Thats a MOLE...

[random patrol]

I have a question. Why are you bothering with the cheaper copper?

[remote willow]

You can not switch out it's laser head, you can absolutely switch out the two attachments.

The Golem can turn out just as much power as a prospector could Not to mention has a weapons rack on the side as well as accessible storage. The prospector does not.

The only true advantage the prospector has is it can carry Argo bags which has 50% more carrying capacity than the Golem

I still prefer the Golem myself, the bags stacks much easier, easy to organize and it fits in a lot more ships

[random patrol]

I run the Aaron halo so those argo bags are a big plus.

[brisk sand]

I’ll be getting the mole efficient solo?

[random patrol]

I dont have one myself but It might be my next purchase since I enjoy mining so much

[tall karma]

Copper is the event commodity (along with tungsten and corundum).

[random patrol]

Oh me dumb

[tall karma]

The mole is fine solo. It's a touch more annoying because of seat swapping / ladder Sim + drift in windy areas, but a touch stronger than a prospector and the ability to bring friends.

[brisk sand]

Also about to get Hull-C

Almost at experienced for Covelex

Spacebound and Down

[open plaza]

I havent mined in a while so I just wanted to get a material for the event

Need to get back into everything mining knowledge

[north oyster]

Copper, Corundium and Tungsten are the cat's meow for the event. I have basically delivered 900 SCU of corundium and tungsten without a single elevator glitch because all I'm doing is mining, refining and delivering. Now to finish capping out the ArcCorp rep. After that, I have a ton of material just to sell straight out to the TDD for cash (gold, bexilite, etc)

[tall vigil]

Can the MISC Prospector still be upgraded with ARGO ore bags?

[sharp swift]

Yes

but only the old amount, no stacking trickery

[tall vigil]

Also, are ship markers a thing now beyond 25 KM? Like, can I park a Polaris in orbit of a planet and have the marker stick around while I go down to the planet?

[spare cloud]

The marker won't necessarily show, but you can find it on the Starmap and QT to it.

[tall vigil]

Yay, what patch added that feature?

[spare cloud]

4.1.1 ? I think

[brisk sand]

Can someone send the best Hull-C build that’s purchasable

[sharp swift]

....build? like components?

[tall vigil]

I mean, the only thing that matters component wise in the hull C is the Quantum Drive. And the best store-purchasable QT Drive for it is the Agni

[spare cloud]

Parapet shields, Erebos QD.
Nothing else worth changing

[spare cloud]

Agni is ass, it's only faster for trips longer than 65GM, has less range, and has a huge cooldown

[meager gorge]

seriously appreciate the detailed breakdown. im going to use it, i mostly am motivated by the 700k payout hull c missions ive been hearIng about, would like to get to that point

[wispy fern]

Hey I have problems with my multi tool mining laser

They say you kinda zoom in if you right click, but if I right click it only activates this collection laser

[brisk sand]

K

Ik Hull-C hauling is riddled w/ issues but hopefully it gets fixed at some point

[spare cloud]

You're looking at an outdated guide.

Very, very, very outdated

[brisk sand]

Why when watching an SC yt video I only watch the most recent ones

Also multi tool mining in big 2025

[spare cloud]

They're in jail

[brisk sand]

Oh lol

I was gonna say how down bad are you to be multi tool mining

Is Ironclad even worth it for hauling once u get to experienced

[spare cloud]

I guess some people just don't like Hull-C gameplay, or really enjoy stacking boxes

Eventually we'll get manual loading in zero-G too, they'll be able to stack boxes with the Hull-C too

[wispy fern]

wdym

and what would be the updated version?

[wispy fern]

im down bad even if im out of jail

[spare cloud]

Try to always look for guides that match the game version or previous version.

[brisk sand]

For me when hauling im usually watching TV or something so I feel the time-wasted in game will allow me to do shit IRL

Obviously it’s not fun but idk I enjoy the boring shit

Not much of a combat guy

[spare cloud]

Sometimes I do the chores while the ship is in QT

[brisk sand]

lol

But I honestly think hauling Ironclad will be DOA, just Raft/Hull-C tbh

[wispy fern]

does anyone know the button to zoom in, in the current version

[brisk sand]

Ironclad will be good for like major external storage operations

[spare cloud]

There isn't one.

[wispy fern]

im going to jump of a bridge

And so how do i know how strong i should make the laser and stuff

[olive gull]

hold F, move the mouse around, scroll with the wheel for zooming

[spare cloud]

You read it on the multi tool's screen

[wispy fern]

no

it doesnt say anything likes that

[spare cloud]

They're not trying to zoom in. They want to ADS with the multi tool

[spare cloud]

It does.

I just did it today

[wispy fern]

where exactly does it says the button?

[spare cloud]

The button ?

[wispy fern]

i mean like this how strong

this game is so overwhelming

[spare cloud]

It's displayed on the tool, the same way it's displayed with mining ships, except it's lots of small bars instead of a continuous one.

[wispy fern]

ok thx, ill try it

[minor olive]

hi, does anyone have a good setup for the prospector?

[random patrol]

Balanced:

• Helix I
  --Rieger C3
  --Focus III

Power:

• Helix I
  --Rieger C3
  --Rieger C3

[minor olive]

tyvm

what about the other stuff?

[tall karma]

FYI if you're using a special multi tool that you got from an event or one of the different color ones, those often don't show the mining UI, but a freshly purchased one from the cargo center with the mining attachment will work. Had this happen to me a few patches back trying to gather hathor resources

I had one of the event multi tools, think it was a grey/red one and it didn't show any of the hand mining info, but could still crack rocks using audio queues... was a pita.

[regal tide]

Does anyone know how to fix this bug where all my refined ore isn't showing up at the Orison TDD? Does Orison not take refined ore?

[nimble quail]

Can anyone help a newbie with some questions related to mining?

[random patrol]

I know if boxes arent snapped to a grid in your ship it won't show on the list to be sold at the TDD...I've had a few crates remain after I've been there

[random patrol]

What other stuff? Shields, power etc?

[random patrol]

I can try to answer your questions and if i dont knownthr answer im sure someone else will.

[spare cloud]

Rest doesn't really matter, but if you want an optimised loadout you'll be looking for either stealth or high resistance. Ask in #flight-combat-racing 👍

[mild pumice]

The event workaround works for hauling missions from stations, I didn't load this, I just took the mission and bought 1scu of waste with autoloading and it's loaded my contract for me, this is going to save me some time 😄

@spare cloud add this to your manual ✍️

loading those master missions takes ages so this is going to be amazing

[spare cloud]

Until this becomes top priority to be fixed over the elevator overloaded bug because CIG sees it as exploiting

[mild pumice]

the irony is it didn't load the waste 🤣

[crude thunder]

CIG "you dare to use my own spaghetti code against me Mr Potter!?"

[vocal pebble]

What’s the minimum crew you’d want to take out a reclaimer?

And is it best to take it out on salvage missions?

[remote willow]

To the point where you're not wasting your time, two. I would make the argument for three.

As the reclaimer currently stands, it's too much work for the reward you get I think you're better off spending your time in a vulture or Fortune. Far more chill and efficient

[spare cloud]

For any ship, minimum crew is always only one.
It gets higher depending on what you expect from the ship. If you want it to be ready for combat, you may want a person per turret (+ engineers in the future).
Regarding the utility of a ship, ships with no pilot weapons are basically useless in combat for example, but nothing stops you from salvaging alone. You can't however expect to get out of every situation if something bad went to happen.

[regal tide]

So it won't register my boxes if they're stored in the actual station I have to move them back into my ship is Orison bugged that bad?

[random patrol]

We're they on your ship or in the station warehouse?

I've had a few on my ship not get sold but thats because they weren't on a cargo grid

I've never had issues if they were in the station warehouse. I usually bring cargo in and sell it from the ship though...

[regal tide]

I was turning in one of the missions just loading up all the cargo on the freight elevator and sending it down completing the mission that I needed but all the excess refined ore is still in Orison Storage of my freight elevator But they're TDD isn't registering them

[random patrol]

Id say load some on your ship then store it and see if that shows up in the TDD. If it sells just load the rest the same way if it won't sell in thr warehouse.

I sell almost daily at orison after my daily refinery orders are done with no issues so far...then again im selling from my ship cargo

[mild violet]

I have 9 mil, do you think I should buy starlancer, or save up a bit more for caterpillar? My largest hauler right now is Raft, so starlancer probably wouldn't be much of an upgrade (but unlike caterpillar, it can carry ground vehicles I guess? So better for mining if I buy roc ds or whatever it's called?)

But I think caterpillar would be better, larger hauling = more money faster etc?

[random patrol]

Caterpillar is 12.4 million?

Its a tough sell...i mean I have the max and I bought a vulture then a prospector...now im almost up to a MOLE since I enjoy mining

[mild violet]

i mean i know hull C is 16, but its buggy mess and I dont want to bother with that 😄

[vestal ravine]

I have found Roc mining in Stanton not very good at all but Pyro is great. Just a heads up.

[pearl juniper]

Asking the silly question because sometimes it's the problem... You are at the TDD and not the admin terminal right?

[regal tide]

I don't even know where the admin Center is on Orison

[pearl juniper]

Above cousin crows, if you ever need it

[regal tide]

Yeah I am definitely not trying to sell it there. This is sounding more and more like a bug it just sucks I'm going to have to load everything onto my ship

[wispy fern]

where can i find profitabel trade routes?

[mighty lily]

starlancer is a great daily

[mighty lily]

sc trade tools

#industrial-professions message this is a good route as well

[slate spruce]

Isn't Orison your home location, where you have a lot of trash in local inventory? It's a known bug that certain items like the envelopes, grazer eggs etc. cause the disappearance of commodities from TDD screen. The workaround is to throw all this trash into a stor-all container within city's inventory and it'll function again.

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-164343

[regal tide]

This is good to know

[brisk sand]

Best vulture build?

[nimble quail]

Is there any way to calculate whether your mining ships fracture power is enough to break a specific rock? With or without modules etc

Like some sort of spreadsheet or calculator

[slate spruce]

#industrial-professions message

[random patrol]

Also dont sleep on gadgets. I easily break "impossible" asteroids and fill up my prospector with one giant rock.

[deep bison]

So you basically finished the mission and the game bugged and made you keep all the extra refined metal that was given to you in the mission?

Maybe Orison doesn't let you sell that because it kind of considers it stolen? You didn't intentionally steal it, but like in theory if you had gotten that stuff via not a bug, it would make sense for the game to think it's stolen right?

[nimble quail]

Sorry i appreciate the help, any chance you could type out this formula for a mass of 50,000? Using the formula and including the answer? Just so I can see the exact way to like- calculate it and get the answer? So sorry, maths & formulas were unfortunately never my strong suit

[nimble quail]

I see,, I only tried using the gadgets once to reduce the resistance of an impossible rock along with 2 misc prospectors, but unfortunately rock was still IMPOSSIBLE even after applying the gadget, so assuming it didn't actually assist with weakening the rock

Thank you so much for all the help and explanations though

[spare cloud]

5 * [Laser power] = Max mass
5 * [10k Laser power] = 50k mass
Then you can add resistance and draw an easy board like the one below.
5% resistance : 47.5k
10% : 45k
15 : ....

[nimble quail]

Sorry, to confirm, this 'laser power' is this fracture power? Or are they two different stats? Not sure i remember seeing Laser power anywhere on the HUD when mining

[spare cloud]

Because it doesn't tell you on the HUD.
It only uses percents, you have to know the raw numbers.

[slate spruce]

Starting inversely, from the loadout: Helix 1 has 3080 3150 base power. The most common Rieger+Focus combo gives you 119% (that's the fracture power modifier written in the bottom left of the screen). Meaning 3748 laser power, times 5 = 18742 maximum rock mass.

Now, this power is reduced by resistance. A rock with 20% resistance reduces it by 20%, so 18742 -> 14994

(edit: damn, mixed up the helixes)

[nimble quail]

Ohhh i see, so it goes off the mining heads laser power and however much the modules amplifies it? Example being using HELIX 1 gives 3150 laser power and using 2 Rieger C3 modules would then amplify the power by 125% i would do the 3150%×250 = 7875
Then do 7875 x 5 = 39375 and if the rocks resistance is 14 i would then do 39375 - 14% = 33862.5

Bringing the highest MASS & RESISTANCE rock i can break becoming 33862.5 (not using any gadgets) and this would then also be double if I'm using 2 MISC PROSPECTORS using HELIX 1 and Rieger C3 modules? Making the biggest mass rock we can break 67725 (no gadgets) ?
@spare cloud (sorry meant to make this a reply)

[nimble quail]

So sorry if what I just said repeated what you just explained here, I was deep in thought trying to type out the formula and didn't see your message until I'd sent this

[spare cloud]

Rieger does +25%
not +125%

And percentages are multiplicative, not additive

Two Rieger-C3 aren't +50%
They're +56%

[slate spruce]

Yep, you got it right (not the Rieger boost, thats only +25%, but the overall principle)

[spare cloud]

Which regolith.rocks somehow does for everything but laser power

[slate spruce]

You can squeeze a bit more power from lasers by going closer than optimal range (which increases instability), and by shining into "weak spots" on the rock (they have lower resistance, you can hear a sizzling sound when firing the laser into them) - don't just shine into one place, move the beam over the rock's surface.

But that are tricks that can help when the rock is 0.5-1k above your maximum, definitely not gamechangers

[nimble quail]

I'm sorry, i understand ALL of it but this part- as it's slightly stumped my friend and I- Multiplicative not additive? how does the number come to 56% instead of 50%? I've tried googling examples of Multiplicative VS Additive and still don't understand how exactly it comes to 56%- 😭

[nimble quail]

I thought getting closer to the rock might do this- but was also uncertain whether being at the OPTIMAL range would give more power or being as close as possible would give more power, so this was fantastic to have confirmed to me
And i had no idea that the rocks had a weak spot on them this is fantastic to learn, could be unrelated but are the weak spots the Lava cracks that form in rocks when you start to overheat them? or is the only way to tell if you are hitting a weakspot is to listen for this 'sizzling' sound cue?

[spare cloud]

Two Rieger-C3 is (100+25%)+25% = 125+25% = 156
And not 100+25+25 = 150

[nimble quail]

Ohhh i completely understand now! Thank you so much for all your help, all this information will be an absolute godsend while mining now

[slate spruce]

I'm not sure the lava and sizzling is correlated, I've definitely found spots that weren't on lava cracks. I have a theory that when you start seeing the cracks separating the rock into future pieces, shining on different parts (pieces) actually helps with instability.

Just like with salvage, you can just point at one spot and the beam slowly eats bigger and bigger circle, but when you move the beam over the surface, it's equalised and more efficient

[tall vigil]

Can the drake golem be duplicated and used by claiming similar to the ATLS? Or will it be like other ships and be locked because you are no longer considered the owner?

If for example I want to store multiple in my Polaris so I can switch between them

[remote willow]

You'll be able to get them from Wikelow in the next patch

[spare cloud]

Lose ownership

But you can always unlock the ship before claiming it

[molten falcon]

can we repair the atls on the go ?

[jagged raft]

Can you use the cargo deck to load your hull C from inventory? Or does it only work with buy and sell orders

[scarlet thistle]

do the hull C tractor beams work ? and if the dohow do I use them ?

[olive gull]

ships who have working tractor beams control them thru a remote terminal, usually at the copilot chair or a standing moitor somewere.

[scarlet thistle]

I can ge to the remote turets that shoot but cant make the tractor beams working .c

[spare cloud]

Yeah, they're bugged

[regal tide]

what's the best location for Tungsten around Microtech

[open plaza]

I'm thinking of making a button box for industrial stuff what do y'all think of the layout/binds

Might add coupled/decoupled button in there

corrected one for mining

[open plaza]

Looking at like 55€ roughly in parts

[mossy arch]

I have gold and quant in my new babbage inventory but I'm not seeing an option to sell it at the TDD under new babbage. What gives, did they remove gold and quant selling with the update?

[random patrol]

I sold gold earlier at orison...no issues

[burnt flame]

ayo guys i'm about to buy the reclaimer any suggestions on part upgrades or is base parts pretty good?

[spare cloud]

Erebos QD, or TS-2 if you can have one, and Abrade scrapper modules

[burnt flame]

how much that cost all up roughly?

i don't have a TS-2

[spare cloud]

Check on erkul.games or finder.cstone.space

[burnt flame]

thank you

[half solstice]

any raft owners

[spare cloud]

No they're all gone

[half solstice]

nt.

[slate spruce]

#industrial-professions message
#industrial-professions message

[molten falcon]

so it's a no? I saw a repair tool kinda, doesn't work for this case?

[spare cloud]

You can try, if it works I'd learn something new and that's be a cool new thing from CIG

[molten falcon]

I need to find it back 🙂 not sure where I left it, I will let you know 😉

[spare cloud]

The usual solution to repair ground vehicles is using Platinum bay pads, but you need to call ATC first, and iirc it only works with the Comms MFD for those pads, which the ATLS doesn't have

Well no, the real usual solution is insurance claim

[molten falcon]

all right, thanks for the info hehe

[cobalt rivet]

am I doing something wrong or does the cargo grid at the rear-rightside freight elevator of Area 18 have one grid that doesn't quite snap

[olive gull]

all elevators had been broken since the very launch on the current patch, CIG had not been able to fix them.
try on a different server and check if the problem persists

[cobalt rivet]

it occurs without fail every time

in the same exact spot

[olive gull]

could worth an issue council report, maybe one is already there, but contributions will make more likely then to fix it

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN

[cobalt rivet]

if it's not game breaking they won't fix it

I don't need it to snap, just OCD things

[lean chasm]

hey guys. I'm new to the game, I'm running cargo with a rented Taurus, and I'm wondering if you guys could suggest me some profitable trade routes. I promise to be discreet about them if you want to dm it, but I've been using SC Tools and just haven't been making that much profit while trying to grind for my first ship. thanks

[random patrol]

I've only been playing a month and I made more salvaging/mining then I did hauling. Youll only get maybe 100-150k per run in that Taurus.

[limpid sluice]

Seems like contracted hauling has been the go to rather than trading, as of late anyways

[random patrol]

Its a slow slog

[remote willow]

https://sc-trade.tools/home
Is your best bet

[lean chasm]

yeah that's what I've been aiming for. the thing is I'm currently gathering money to buy myself a Vulture

[remote willow]

Fortune's going to be available in game next patch

[random patrol]

100% my first purchase then a prospector.

[lean chasm]

yeah I've been doing the Baijini-A18 route but it's so incredibly mind numbing loading then unloading all those 1 SCU boxes lol

[lean chasm]

awesome to know I'm on the right path, thanks (:

[random patrol]

Anything that has to do with planets i avoid...its station to station. I was running diamonds for a few hauls...350k profit per run but it got old

[limpid sluice]

It shouldn't take that long to get up to a higher rank with bigger boxes, make sure you're doing missions that match your rep level

[lean chasm]

with what ship? or how many SCUs rather?

[limpid sluice]

Been a while, but i swear it was only a handful of contracts

[random patrol]

Starlancer MAX...224 scu

I rented a raft for a week also...

[remote willow]

Eww

[lean chasm]

why is the raft receiving so much hate lol

[random patrol]

Ran cargo with the rental just like you are...

[remote willow]

I was saying eww to the starlancer Max

[lean chasm]

oh

[remote willow]

Nice ship but terrible hauler

[random patrol]

Thr hate is for thr max

Yeah the cargo bay is cancer lol

[remote willow]

So is the side cargo Bay It's sad really because when you fill it up it looks awesome

But an utter pain to unload

[limpid sluice]

Raft is getting love, except for when people leave it abandoned on a pad

[random patrol]

MAX takes patience and finesse

[remote willow]

Patience goes as far as efficiency, when I lose the latter I lose the former

[lean chasm]

do you remember the route? I could rent a Raft that has similar SCUs and maybe do that

lol valid

[random patrol]

I usually mine after work in the evening and pickup my refinery orders the next day automatically in the max...then goto orison for the sale

500k+ just in mining

[lean chasm]

nice

[random patrol]

I dont remember the routes...I ran a lot for the week. Now I just mine and salvage....MOLE is next in my hangar

[remote willow]

I would rent one before I would buy one

I had serious buyers remorse with my mole

[random patrol]

During the free fly they had a vulture that I used a lot

[random patrol]

What dont you like about the mole? Handling etc?

[remote willow]

Too much work for the return. Great multi crew ship. I just don't like soloing in it

Golem is my preferred mining ship

Might get the Arasta when it comes out

[random patrol]

I like the prospector and argo bags. i stick to the Aaron halo so I fill up pretty quick

[remote willow]

Prospector is overrated, I'd rather lose 16 SCU to keep extra storage in the Golem

[olive gull]

la Taurus es muy mala como nave de carga
you should rent a RAFT instead
and trade routes will only give you real money once you can afford a HUL C
stick to Baijini-Airport trips

[remote willow]

Spare charges, mining modules etC

[lean chasm]

jajajajaj de una ok ok I will rent a Raft instead. I think my rent expires today. idk man I think I prefer doing cargo runs even for 100k profit cause at least I can auto load and offload while I watch a video or smth on my other screen. I've been grinding the Baijini route to get my first million and a half but if I have to go back to loading and unloading the 1 SCU boxes for hours for marginal profits ill actually jump out my window

[olive gull]

hay un total de 6 misiones en Baijini que pagan 50k cada una, asi que cada viaje serian 300k y en el aeropuerto hay una mision para volver a Baijini que te paga 75k, asi que viaje redondo es de casi 400k,
la carga de las cajitas se puede hacer en 15 minutos usando el tractor de la RAFT o e 10 minutos con el ATLS, se requiere algo de practica con el ATLS
La RAFT al no tener rampas ni nada es muchisimo mas facil de cargar que cualquier otra nave

[lean chasm]

alright man. voy a sacarme la paja y me dedico a esas misiones. thanks for the tip. can I like rent an ATLS and throw it in the ship or what?

[olive gull]

the ATLs is very cheap you can buy it at Area18
then you can call it like any ship or directly from the cargo elevator

[lean chasm]

ohh ok

[olive gull]

a less boring alternative to earn credits is thru combat missions,
the 'gaunlet' missions, once you hit tier 5, they pay you 100k+ per mission, doing each mission in like 5 mins, super easy

[lean chasm]

which ship do you recommend I rent for doing those gauntlet missions?

[tall karma]

Constellation Andromeda or Taurus would be good for the gauntlet missions since the stock weapon loadout is halfway decent.

[olive gull]

i do them on a Sabre, but a Gladius will do

you dont need a big ass ship to do tier 5 gaunlets

[tall karma]

You can't rent a Sabre or a Gladius. Rent was the inquiry.

[lean chasm]

yeah that's what I wanted to say. I still need to get good at the game lol so I find fighting in smaller nimbler ships much more enjoyable

[lean chasm]

oh alright

[tall karma]

If the Cutlass Black didn't have a horrible default loadout, i'd recommend that, but it has half mantis ballistics and half laser repeaters

Also if you could rent the Gladius, it has a terrible default loadout also. Rentals can't be customized without manually tractor beaming parts around, and then the customization is lost on claim.

So unfortunately, the only ship I am aware of that is worth renting for combat due to a functional default loadout would be either of the constellation ships.

[lean chasm]

understood, thank you very much. I'll stick to the Taurus which I've already been using if I go down the gauntlet route

[olive gull]

no le hagas caso, la taurus es terrible para esas misiones, es un ladrillo con alas, vas a estar 1 hora tratando de darle a las 3 navecitas de la mision

[tall karma]

Not a language I speak, but from experience the Taurus is definitely not terrible for gauntlet missions. Especially if you're using the default Galdreen laser repeaters. You will decimate the Scenario 5 mission.

Its also way less punishing than using a light fighter for a new player since the ships you face will not be able to hurt you as long as you don't let the sabre firebird spam S3 missiles

[tall vigil]

Do Passive Mining Modules stack? Like, can I put 2 Reigar-C3s for a total of +50% extra power?

[spare cloud]

#industrial-professions message

[tall vigil]

Thanks!

[quartz ledge]

I always wonder when you swap Pospector bags to Mole ones does Prospector saves loadout in case of reclaim / destruction?

[tall karma]

You must store, modify in vehicle loadout manager (i.e. change a missile and then revert), and then retrieve to ensure the bags are restored after claiming.

Once you make a modification in VLM, your ship manual customizations get updated on the backend, and insurance restores it properly.

[leaden monolith]

So why not buy the bags and equip them from the VLM? That would negate the extra steps.

[quartz ledge]

So swap bags and store to save it before heading out for mining, right?

[tall karma]

No, read the instructions again.

You're missing the most critical part of the process, making a change in the vehicle loadout manager.

It doesn't matter what you change, but you must change something.

[blissful isle]

So that's why my Argo bags ghosted me

Welp, that'll never happen again!

[tall karma]

Usually I just remove a component, cooler, weapon, whatever. Hit SAVE, then re-equip the item and hit SAVE again.

[random patrol]

I always store the prospector with no bags....because if you claim it elsewhere you lose the argo bags....and get the misc ones back each time. I keep all my empties in the station storage

[tall karma]

If you 1) Store it, 2) modify the prospector by changing anything in the vehicle loadout manager and then 3) retrieve - you won't lose the argo bags on claim.

[slate spruce]

Depends how much risk are you willing to take? A good route for a Taurus is Etam or Neon from Pyro to Stanton, or Atlasium/Partilium from Pyro IV to Bloom.
If you want to play safe, grind hauling around mT. You need 5 small rookie missions to get to junior, which gives better contracts. You can stack multiple with same origin and destination(s), earning decent cash. mT has distribution centers (together with Hurston), so the routes are in general better there. There are 3 stackable small junior contracts (one origin, one destination, 50k each), and then 6 stackable member contracts (one origin, 3 destinations, 95k each, doable in an hour)

[mossy arch]

Seems to have at least worked for the quant, thanks. Not sure why I still can't sell my 16 SCU of gold though

[slate spruce]

Maybe too many items in inventory, or something else that's blocking it. Ammo, jumping limes, pitambu... you know, the stuff that might be sellable in admin office

[mossy arch]

It does give me the option to sell RMC despite the fact I have 0 scu of it. Maybe It's another bug

Nvm that was from a cambio-lite srt canister. Still can't sell the gold though

[lean chasm]

hey that's awesome, thank you very much for all the info. I'll look into the risky missions and put in the grind for the member ones. thanks

[slate spruce]

Reminder to not invest what you can't afford to lose. The atlasium&partilium means investing ~5M and earning ~6.2M with a single run (5×2scu + 6×4scu boxes), but it's all un/loading on open air in null sec space...

[weary crescent]

Does anyone know how to stack 32 scu boxes on the Hercules without going crazy?

[jagged raft]

Stack them width wise instead of length

It requires less effort and you have much more room to wiggle the container/s on top

(it also makes unloading easier imo)

[crude thunder]

Anything on the Atls GEO to modify for mining or good as is?

[west tide]

where is the best place to mine with a mole to make money

[regal tide]

How much longer is this broken event to?

[crude thunder]

Yes

Latest screen captures for 4.3 PTU look like it's being extended for a few weeks

[crude thunder]

Any idea if the Atls Geo could be transported in the back of a Cutlass Red?

[mild pumice]

Yeah don't see why not, there's plenty of space you can even fit a PTV or STV

The PTV even fits through the doors lol.

[spice shell]

I've got a Prowler Utility, but I have never attempted these sorts of runs and routes before. What's the level of risk we're talking about here? Is it coin flip odds?

[slate spruce]

It depends on server situation. When there's new content happening in Stanton, it's pretty safe. When ppl are bored, you can get in trouble at Bueno. From what I've experienced there, it was approx one a-hole every 10 minutes (plus some hostile npc ships randomly spawning above)

[regal tide]

Can the Hull C be used for this event? since it can't dock up at a city?

[remote willow]

Not in any real sense no

The sheer amount of bending over backwards you would have to do to accomplish anything related to the event with the hull c would have you doing backflips non-stop

[regal tide]

So silly how there are so many game play loops that we can't even uses our ships for one being our Hull C's and all the Salvage "Piling up" at all these Locations we can't even use the Freight elevators.

I'm at a point with this project that they don't even play or know their game very well.

[remote willow]

The Hull C should have not been released even this early

[remote willow]

Also considering how many of the locations of this event are planetside. Fairly confident the Hull C was never in consideration to be used in the event.

[regal tide]

I'm still trying to figure out how to get Orison to see all my refined ore I have stockpiled there with this event at their TDD it's going to suck having to move all of it to another city

Will 4.3 wipe the jobs at the refinery stations?

[remote willow]

Jobs? Yes you need to complete the orders so they at least get moved into the station storage

[regal tide]

Why can't there be a simple system to move all my items into a storage box from the Freighter Elevator. It shows them moved into one but never actually takes the items.

why won't these items go into a box?

[olive gull]

you gotta do that from the inventory terminal, NOT the Cargo elevator
start by opening a box then just drop whatever in

[regal tide]

One by One NUTZ! so moving all is out of the question must be some 22th centery tech.

I'm doing all this just so ORison can see my Refined cargo boxes

Dear lord, every time I try to sell anything at Orison it Fails?

[olive gull]

you complain too much from a silly game bug
when 4.3 patch arrives you will be asked again to set your home city
pick Orison and then magically all your inventory will be moved there.

[regal tide]

Does Auto cargo loading work?

[olive gull]

Lasy ass.

[regal tide]

Orison is my home and it's not a silly bug it's like the whole point of the game to sell cargo and it doesn't let you

No I loaded all my cargo on to my ship to fix this silly bug you say now I have to move to back

I found the work around was to move all the Junk into a storage box and it finally registered all my refined ore to sell then I had to jump to a Aus server to finally sell it. this is all very silly and I have the right to complain 14yrs later with this trash system they have setup.

[olive gull]

this Discord server is not affiliated with CIG in any way, they wont see your complains.
do an Issue Council report if you want the Devs to know and fix your problem.

[regal tide]

Oh they jump in here from time to time and I have lets see if 4.3 is worth it.

[remote willow]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/lobby/38230

Resource drive continued into 4.3

[olive gull]

with low expectations on Elevators...

[remote willow]

I find your lack of faith disturbing

[olive gull]

Good!

they may work first 24 hours, then...

[tall karma]

I used it. Gotta get creative. Shoot off the 2 lower spindles and it lands fine with up to 1000scu. Before all the FEs became worthless I loaded up about 6 missions worth of cargo. You do have to abuse some bugs to unload.

The main bug you can use to cheat with a hull c is if you refuel at a mining outpost, then get into orbit, you can bedlog. When you log back in the ship will let you close the spindles with cargo on them. This let's you dock at a station and go into a large hangar then you can retrieve to the hangar with all the cargo out

[cobalt rivet]

Can you sell cargo straight off the Raft or does it have to be unloaded?

[tall karma]

Super rarely will auto unload actually work, but it is a mechanic you can try.

There are rules tho. If you have mixed cargo, it won't work. Especially if the mixed cargo is stacked. If you have just one type of cargo then you have a 50/50 shot it works

[cobalt rivet]

ok thanks

[random patrol]

I sell cargo straight out of my MAX and I dont unload it....even if its a mixed load.

Mostly refinery orders....but even RMC can be sold automatically

[jagged raft]

Got any other Hull C insights - like if I want to manually unload in an extra large, can i keep all my spindles? Or just destroy the bottom so I can land?

[paper vine]

why is it that the limits for selling cargo is still so low one not even full load of my reclaimer with construction and i cant even sell half of it

[jagged raft]

It's because everyone else is also selling at the same location - if you sell at a different location you will have no issues offloading mass SCU amounts

[paper vine]

well the only place i can sell is at a city and they are all just as bad for selling

[jagged raft]

Where are you currently trying to sell.

[paper vine]

tried orison tried area 18 both bad

cant imagine lorvile or new babage will be any better and i need somewhere with a xl hangar

[jagged raft]

I have never had issues fully offloading at NB and I salvage quite a bit.

Worst case you just server region hop.

[paper vine]

ok ill try NB next time

[crude thunder]

atls geo.. is there a way to lock the container in the back so someone doesn't just come up and yoink my cargo?

[tall karma]

If you own an XL hangar at a planet, tractor beam a pulse into the airlock, then call ATC from the pulse inside your hull c to get an XL hangar

Will only work for your home planet. Other places will just get you a small hangar.

[jagged raft]

You don't get an extra large on your home planet by default?

[tall karma]

Then you should dump all the cargo onto the ground using the tractor beams, jump out in an ATLS (which can be loaded on the elevator) and put it all in the FE.

[tall karma]

Hull C = Large, not XL. It fits fine in a large hangars with spindles extended also.

The main issue is that you're not going to fill even half the capacity on a Hull C and be able to get it to a major city. It will fall out of the sky.

However you can do this reliably in Pyro.

[jagged raft]

No possible way to land even half full on planet?

Even with the spindle trick?

[remote willow]

Its not meant to

[glass dust]

Is Golem worth it?

[crude thunder]

It mines well and you can buy it in game as of 4.3 for 1mill. It's like a third the cost of the Prospector. Fits in several other ships easily. Only down side is going to be the mining laser head is what it is, you can't change it but it does take mods. I gobbled up an LTI Golem months ago and I've been using it

[remote willow]

Absolutely, in addition to what Nova said it also has much more manageable bags that stack well if you use cargo ships to haul in bulk and it has internal storage that can be accessed from the side of the ship for extra mining modules, gadgets and other supplies needed on a extended run.

while you cant change the mining head it has, it boasts as much power as what the Prospector can currently put out.

[glass dust]

Thank you both🫡

[remote willow]

Once they fix the ladder and internal storage issues the prospector has it will be a true comptetitor to the Golem

[tall karma]

I mean the prospector has way more customizable options to make it stronger than the golem

[remote willow]

idk if I'd say "way more"

[olive gull]

its mostly because prospector can change the laser and golem can not

[remote willow]

It can match the power the strongest laser (Helix 1) if im not mistaken so I'm not sure how its ability to to switch heads makes it that more significantly better

[pearl juniper]

Golum is 32 scu right? Prospector can be upgraded to 48

[remote willow]

Id take versatility with modules and gadgets over 16 extra scu

[pearl juniper]

Prospector gives you both though?

[remote willow]

Prospector has no internal storage

No in the field swapping

[spare cloud]

It doesn't seem fair to compare Golem+Mothership with Prospector

[remote willow]

Id still take it without but I am admitedly bias to a degree

Golem is more versatile then people give it credit for

[crude thunder]

Pretty sure you could mother ship a Prospector on an Ironclad when it comes out. I plan to use the Fortune for Salvage ops unless the new RSI is a better salvager. You can definitely use a Polaris. Golem is just way more compact for an enclosed space. Nearly to the point you can have 2+ golems per Prospector

I come before the council of industry. I've made money this patch, a good chunk of change but money not spent making more money is a crime. So I pose a question to the professionals... What would you do with 32 million aUEC?

Current ships (Raft, Vulture, Fortune, Buccaneer, Golem, Reliant Kore, C1, Intrepid, Atls, Atls Geo, MTC, Corsair [rental that won't leave], Hornet and Arura)

[mighty lily]

buy an M2 Herc?

[crude thunder]

istn' that a downgrade from the C2 but you get like 2 more guns?

[pearl juniper]

Reclaimer? If the goal is making money in industrial gameplay. Or a MOLE.

[mighty lily]

well yeah it has 522 or 552 scu (not sure) compared to 696 on the C2, yeah you have 2 more guns and i think that ship is great for pyro stuff where you need to kill some ships collect some cargo or commodity trading will work fine as well

it's the military variant of the hercules so you get armor but iirc it isnt currently implemented into the game yet. if you want better protection while transporting commodities and more dps then this ship fits you

but if you're just running cargo then C2 without a doubt

[mighty lily]

the reclaimer is great as well, my friend owns it and it's a ton of fun with 2/3 people

[tall karma]

Reclaimer + Hull C

[mighty lily]

hull c is hella bugged

yes it's a money printer but only when it works

[sharp swift]

Have you tried it this patch? I heard they fixed a fair amount of the Hull C hauling bugs

[mighty lily]

i tried it once and it started spamming the atc so i immediately gave up

[sharp swift]

Check out this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlAgAVXdj7A

I haven't tested it myself, been focused on the event when I get time to play

[mighty lily]

i've had a ton of bugs with it, either the atc spam or being unable to unload but i also had an interesting bug once where i delivered the whole cargo but didnt get credited any money, even after trying to submit the contract (submit button didnt work)

i've watched it unload every single piece of cargo

i still didnt get credited for that contract to this day :D

[sharp swift]

as I understand it, it isn't perfect, but it is managable if you understand the rules on hauling with it, to include ATC issues

[mighty lily]

yea it definitely is manageable but it gets frustrating at some point where you're essentially just fighting the game to get it to work

[mighty lily]

will watch this later, gotta go to sleep soon, but what is the fix to the atc spam?

that's probably the most annoying thing about it

[sharp swift]

I don't remember at this point, I watched it a few weeks ago

one thing was related to the original station you got your hull c from

[mighty lily]

alright, i guess i'll get to know it tomorrow

[sharp swift]

basically, if you wanted to haul from A to B, call the Hull C from 'point C' and then go to A/B

[mighty lily]

ohh, so call it from another station hmm

maybe that makes sense but i don't get how would that work

[sharp swift]

yeah, I think the idea is the underlying issue of already having a hangar assigned at that station (and used the normal ATC to get out of the hangar) when you're trying to call up the cargo ATC

[mighty lily]

makes sense, i suppose that could somehow be connected to this issue. but i don't own the hull c yet, i've been using my friend's ship all the time. he would spawn it for me on everus usually and i'd pick up a contract, preferably terra to pyro, so i did not have a hangar assigned because the ship was not mine

so i had it spawned in "point C" and still encountered this bug, i'll try playing it again when i get home

i'm actually debating which ship i should buy, the C2 or the hull c. I've flown both of these quite a lot and had no issues with C2 but god the hull c is a literal money printer when you get it to work. i have a love and hate relationship with this ship because of bugs but man i'm a big fan of misc designs. their ships are so beautiful both on the outside and the inside, i had to buy the starlancer max as a daily

[sharp swift]

Well both are released so there shouldn't be any price increases. I feel like both are pretty solo-able as well. If you're on the fence and you're looking for long-term value, I'd say Hull C since the bugs will eventually get fixed (I hope)

[mighty lily]

true i hope the bugs will get smashed as well

i find commodity trading a really stable way to make money

like i've had literally zero bugs with it so far, always using auto load/unload

though it is not very profitable in starlancer max, but something like a fully loaded c2 would make a good amount of money

[hybrid lark]

Honestly, after having done 2 resource drive corps with the polaris hangar, i cant wait for the liberator. Offgrid storage is so much more comfortable

[coarse dome]

So ive finally took the dive into pyro cause i heard they have larger salvage contracts but all im finding are anvil arrows any idea why

[mild pumice]

The big salvage jobs might be under the merc tab for one of the factions

You might need to get your rep up to see them

[hollow pewter]

What is the most profitable ore to mine in a prospector, and how do I find it?

[vital stratus]

i can show you

[vital stratus]

make a channle

[coarse dome]

I ain’t able to get on rn

[vital stratus]

https://discord.com/channels/82210263440306176/1404273067131404299

[hollow pewter]

Can anyone help out? Just need some advice

New to ship mining

Guess I’m ship outta luck

[sharp swift]

Just go mine and gain knowledge via regolith.rocks

it's too hard to target a specific ore

you'd waste more time than gain auec

[tranquil inlet]

Anyone have advice on scrapping ships for weapon components? I.E is it worth while actively hunting for these parts? If so, any direction for any reference guides / websites for learning all the need to know?

[turbid tartan]

in most cases it isnt worth to grab the components, unless you know you can sell them to other players.
but then agaain, if youre in a fortune or vulture you dont really have the capacity to grab ship weapons or components in the first place, and if youre in a reclaimer then it might take you too long to be efficient for smaller components

thats at least my thoughts on it after trying it out

[tranquil inlet]

i see

[turbid tartan]

but wepons like NBDs you should always grab cuz even the S2s go for around 100k when selling to other players

[vestal ravine]

I use a chart called "Mineable Material Properties" but mine is getting old but it might be on the Regolith web site. Anyway the first column on it is titled "Material" which is the ore name and the first vertical column is titled "Avg. Value." I mine a lot on Yela for the ores that have the top payout per SCU which at that time were Quantanium, Bexalite, Gold and Taranite. Anything below that I don't mine. That is one approach you can take.

[vestal ravine]

Wow i logged in on two different servers at Orison no sign of my event resource crates to sell. is there an issue at orison?

[cerulean jay]

Hey there, do we have a looking for Corp Channel here? Otherwise, i would like to join an Industrial/exploring orientet Corp, prefered German Speaking, but English will work aswell.

[prisma dagger]

does that old reclaimer unloading trick where you just dump everything down that rear chute and it glitches out the ship still work?

[remote willow]

https://discord.com/channels/82210263440306176/1359577654889812078

[remote willow]

Go to the bridge and open all doors which opens the elevator and allows you to dump cargo through it is faster than the rear shoot

[tribal gale]

PN ist raus

[crude thunder]

Went Geo mining , not sure if I'm doing it well. Sold it all at Hadley on Hurston but feels like it was too time intensive for the payout. Probably around 200k or more. Hadley actually had a working elevator but wouldn't see them in the store all to buy them. I ended up having to split them into batches and sell from my backpack. Dolivine, Feynmaline, and Glacosite.

Also what's up with the singles that refuse to stack? I tried dropping one and it made a whole rock I couldn't interact with 🥲

[fathom brook]

whats the true cargo cap of the starlancer TAC? it says 96 but It doesnt have the grid for that
unless im being stupid missing something

[crude thunder]

back of the TAC has 2 grids in the rear that are 3 tall, 2 wide, 8 long so ...48 on each side giving you 96 scu gridded. Off grid you'd likely get another couple 32 scus off grid and you can stuff a couple 16scus in the top hangar if you want.

[fathom brook]

Is it safe to use off grid now? I remember it would blow peoples ship up

I’m just tryna grind and get a cargo ship

[olive gull]

yes it is

[olive gull]

get the RAFT

[tall karma]

When the ATLS was introduced, it was causing massive damage to ships by flinging cargo around, so CIG disabled damage from cargo containers which makes it safe for your ship to go off grid. The risk is that you'll randomly lose cargo from time to time while flying / in QT if it clips through the ship.

[hallow lark]

Does auto loading work now?! Can I buy cargo and have it successfully load/unload trade goods from the commodities terminal?!

[fathom brook]

I’ll take it as a win, tbh

[tall karma]

Word is that you can, but only if the ship can 1) be stored and retrieved at the location and 2) you are doing a single type of cargo (no auto-loading multiple commodities, the system is not smart enough).

So you wont be able to take your C2 to a mining station and do this because you can't store or retrieve the ship there.

[random patrol]

I use off grid in my vulture and lancer MAX...works fine.

Pack over 300 in the MAX

[fathom brook]

Beautiful

[crude thunder]

thats worked for me the last few patches, However there was some issues with ~4.1? where the cargo grids for ships were messed up, like the raft grid was moved over 1 hole slot to the left.

Refinery can also auto load your refined goods directly to the ship, players are even using auto load to get the 3 scu cargo for the event missions

[spare cloud]

Use #1367290250317008906 for that

[random patrol]

You can also autoload regular cargo missions...not even the event ones

[crude thunder]

I've not tried that yet, how does it work outside of the Hull C system?

[random patrol]

Store your ship, goto the commodity terminal, pick a mission from the contracts tab, then buy 1 scu of waste and have it loaded. It loads your mission cargo for you.

[crude thunder]

and its just loading contract cargo from Covalex too?

[random patrol]

You have to unload it manually when you get to your destination though

Yes...covalex

[crude thunder]

interesting

[random patrol]

I've run large member missions with it...trying to get my level up

The refinery loading is my favorite since I do daily refinery runs to orison.

Just load and go

[dark hinge]

Any tips/tricks to finding caves on planets/moons? I'm not looking for already found caves that have documented coordinates and triangulating them. This would be finding caves organically via flight/scanning/etc.

[olive gull]

i dont think caves show up on any scans, they should tho...
could worth a issue report so CIG may implement that in a future

[pearl juniper]

how? You can't auto load at outposts, unless it's a bug or something?

[crude thunder]

Outposts have those 2 small pads you can call up or store a small ship like a C8 Pisces or Argo CSV. And once stored you can buy and auto load cargo to it ... It's how people are completing the 3scu intro mission with broken elevators

You just store the ship, buy 1scu of waste at the outpost to be auto loaded and the mission cargo comes with

[pearl juniper]

ahh. But auto loading mission cargo, that has to be a bug... you can only auto load purchased cargo.

[pearl juniper]

yep, bug

[crude thunder]

Use the spaghetti code to your advantage

[pearl juniper]

until they declare abuse of the spaghetti code to be an exploit

[viral harbor]

whats the biggest rock i can crack solo in the mole usin a helix II

[cobalt rivet]

which route/material gets you the most profit if you do HullC

[mild wasp]

Anyone know of any good trade routes with Autoload with a large supply and demand? needing 10k SCU over two hours worth of stock

[leaden monolith]

You could try CRU-L1 to MIC-L1. Run Methane or Nitrogen from CRU-L1 and Xa'Payen from MIC-L1.

It's about a 52gm jump but by the time you return stocks for buying and selling have reset.

You didn't say which ship and this is not a Hull C route.

[mild wasp]

Cheers for the tip, it's for an org event, we'll have 5-10 C2's running throughout the event, so need enough stock for at least 5 C2's to buy at once

We're not fussed at all about the travel distance, we're more concerned with having everyone running with cargo at all times, no waiting for stock to reset, as well as profit per run

[leaden monolith]

The stocks of XA'Payen would support 2 full C2's from memory but definitely not 5. You might be pushing it to find a route that would support that volume.

Hephaestanite from Terra Gateway to MIC-L5 has enough stock for 5xC2's but there is no return cargo but but it is a short 9gm jump. but Terra Gateway wouldn't restock fully by the time you returned.

hmmm did I say but enough times not sure but

[cobalt rivet]

i am now a proud owner of hull-c, starting cargo missions fresh, should I cram all the cargo contracts or do them one at a time

[mild wasp]

Do you know of any smaller runs that would support 10 RAFTs? using at least 8SCU containers? Happy to go from Pyro to stanton, but it needs to be restocked by the time we've made it back to the site

[slate spruce]

C2s - scrap from Seraphim to Magnus? 32 SCU
Rafts - astatine from all 4 mT SMOs to Magnus, Arc L1, Arc L2? (Enough supply, but problem with single point demand) 24 SCU, only after the elevator fix

[random patrol]

So you're not including any modules or gadgets? What's the resistance of the rock? A lot of additional parts need to be taken into consideration.

[leaden monolith]

@mild wasp I haven't done this one in a while but it might support what you're looking for. Start point could be anywhere in the loop. Staggering the Rafts to start at different points might also help.

ARCL2 > Pyro Gateway Scrap
Pyro > CRUL4 Hephaestanite
CRUL4 > HURL4 CMAT
HURL4 > HURL5 Xa'Payen
HURL5 > ARCL2 Methane - Aleternate HURL5>Pyro Scrap

[mild wasp]

I’ll have a look into it, thanks for the tip

[viral harbor]

O rly

[pearl juniper]

#industrial-professions message

[random patrol]

Yeah rly

[cobalt rivet]

Okay I have a raft and hull-c and want to try out Hauling contracts, which system is the best for this, best as in fastest and most profitable?

[olive gull]

Stanton.

[cobalt rivet]

which planet system

Arcorp, Hurston, or MicroTech

[olive gull]

for contracts? either Crusader or Arcorp

[deep bison]

where are people getting partiullium? just those little pyro outposts?

[limpid sluice]

I found the complete opposite, hurston and Microtech were ideal, since they have distribution centers. Plenty of contracts and it avoids public elevators

[mighty lily]

sacren's plot

[quartz ledge]

If I decide to go for Wikelo Polaris will I be forced to PVP eg. hot FPS/ship zones etc.? And is there some kind of guide of things has to be done and best way to get them done?

[limpid sluice]

Do you have to PvP? No. However, many materials come from sandbox events where PvP frequently occurs. Depends entirely on how you go about getting your stuff. Can just as easily buy everything from player markets, if you're inclined to

Some people have just done the events in quiet low pop servers too

[mighty lily]

link takes you exactly to polaris mission, below it you'll have all the materials needed for a polaris + where to find them, align & mine + storm breaker sheets made by the same guy will be linked in "where to source materials" tab.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ji0q_pp6iW35RG1YyFEsv-lsmZOaCStJXGdIEdLLwhM/edit?gid=481073732#gid=481073732&range=B72:P72

try to do these events with a crew, they're much easier with backup

alternatively you can buy everything from other players but that will cost you a lot and you can get scammed

[torpid blade]

Is there s list of what ships have a docking port that would hold around 500 +- SCU. I know the hull C is a popular option, but not wanting to go as big.

[spare cloud]

Why exactly are you looking for a docking port ?

[torpid blade]

I am lazy and do not want to load my own cargo

[spare cloud]

Right, that's only a thing for the Hull-C

Doing hauling contracts, the Hull-C is the only one you can use auto loading with.
The big loading cubic area is only compatible with the Hull-C and not the Polaris or Idris for example, which are the only ships with a docking port that have more than 500 SCUs

[torpid blade]

Woudl the Hull B do the same, just smaller proportions?

384 SCU is all

[spare cloud]

Doing trading, that is, buying your own cargo and reselling it, you can auto load any ship given that you can store it and retrieve it at the place you're at.

The Hull-B can land. It'd get a hangar and have to load inside of one.

More importantly, it's not out and won't be before years

[sharp swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlAgAVXdj7A

[torpid blade]

ok then, i will need to figure out how to autoload my ship

[random patrol]

Youre in the wrong game.

[shell sorrel]

Anyone have clues to what hand mineable deposits are found within the CZ of Checkmate

Or maybe a guide to what all hand deposits look like by deposit

[torpid blade]

@random patrol I see that for sure just want it to be a bit more efficient.

[random patrol]

I run a MAX for cargo and believe me id love for cargo to automatically be loaded onto it sometimes....but then I wouldnt have the "fun" of being creative with loading it manually.

[torpid blade]

I know, I just googled it and found a video that shows how to load 256 SCU into the Asgard

[long grail]

Mineables inside a CZ would be news to me

You can find Feynmalline in some chests but there is nothing to mine there

[regal tide]

Anyone know how many saddlebags can fit on the raft?

[pearl juniper]

I forget which one, but one of them has a section that you can go down into and hand mine stuff, right before you get to the final loot hangar.

Checkmate, maybe?

any fix for a bugged elevator on the Raft?