industrial-professions

[olive gull]

happens..

[dawn isle]

Mining is really starting to get on my nerves. I fly to a planet. The planet spawns rock clusters for about the first 10 minutes and then nothing ever spawns again. or if it does it takes minutes of flying before anything shows up. am I doing something wrong?

[warm totem]

I usually bring 5 bags with me, I mine in stanton regularly - all feyn. Also, I think if you look back I told you to stick to hauling, lol. Mining is a bit of a time sync but gets better with experience as you learn to collect faster by swapping to collect as soon as the rock breaks and collect the majority as it explodes - but again it takes time!

[warm totem]

depends on where you are - also I think the server could be at fault and not streaming them in before you fly past them - how fast are you travelling?

I try to stay like under 200 - but if I do fly faster I often turn back and have a look, if you decouple you can keep your forward momentum up while looking back.

[junior fern]

yeah, after realizing how much time gem mining is gonna take me, i’m just gonna go back to rookie contract stacking with the RAFT

[frail cypress]

It's the server. Find a better one or fly slower. Occasionally get out of your seat and back in.

[past cave]

Is it generally safe to have the refinery load my ship with the refined material or should I just manually load it?

[olive gull]

since 4.1.1 you can do both, its safe... as long as elevators are responding, otherwise swap servers

[past cave]

no problems with maxing it out either, filling to the brim.

[junior fern]

holy hell, ATLS makes loading my RAFT with dozens of 1 scu boxes so easy

[olive gull]

how long it takes to fill it up?

using RAFT's onboard tractor beam i take 15 mins to fully load/unload all those darn 1scu boxes

so i use to complete the missions in: 15+15+10 = 45mins

10 mins of trip including hangar queues, hate queues!

[past cave]

I can't get the ATLS to highlight my 32 and 24SCU boxes from my ship grid...is this a known bug?

[small hull]

Has anyone done the unverified hauling missions around the OLPs and PAFs? Thinking of being them in my nomad

[junior fern]

maybe 3 to 4 minutes

[olive gull]

try moving first any surrounding boxes

[junior fern]

unironically incredible

also

that is not where the ATLS goes

[olive gull]

hahahaa, i dont think so

[junior fern]

nah, it really was

it's a way faster tractor beam than the built in on the RAFT

[small hull]

Yeah I've done it too. It works almost as fast as you can move your camera and click

3-4 minutes sounds right

[analog grotto]

4.2 is going to make the ATLS + RAFT combo even better, assuming they don't remove the ability to snap the ATLS to the RAFT's grid.

[small hull]

I don't think it's a bug. Since they are adding the ability to store it with the cargo elevator it has to snap to a grid

[rocky grove]

where can i sell location of gold surface rocks i cant mine myself?

[olive gull]

that will vary from server to server, its quite sure that the next time you log in, the stuff wont be there, unless you had luck getting exactly the same server

but do try at #market-street

[spring prism]

I think I asked this before, or was told. But is there a setting that makes it so using ship tractor beams doesn't make it feel so sluggish? Like, I move the mouse, and the tractor beam has to "catch up" to it like it was wading through molasses or something.

[frail cypress]

Press Q

[junior fern]

or don’t use ship tractor beams and use the far superior ATLS

[spring prism]

I don't like the ATLS tractor beam system, because the boxes couldn't have their height changed, so it often bumped into ship ceilings/hulls like on the Spirit or ES

Since I can't see the cargo grids from down on the ground, so I have to walk up the ramp

[olive gull]

The Atlas is a solution to a problem CIG themselves created.

[small hull]

On the spirit just put the atls at the top of the ramp

Should work fine there

[eternal cloak]

Is there a tool where you can plugin in rock stats like mass and itll tell you what lasers/gadgets to use to break?

[olive gull]

try this: https://gallog.co/mining/tool

not sure how up to date it is..

[opal yoke]

Does Roc Mining not drop crystals currently? or do they just ALL bug out for me tonite?

[shell sorrel]

regolith is great

[spice shell]

That's uhhh..... well, kinda the point to all of this, no?

[shell sorrel]

So attempting to mothership mining doesnt work. Logging off in mole bed, whilst parked next to corsair. Logging back in and the corsair disappears. Is there any proper way to do it? Did i miss a move?

[spare cloud]

Your Corsair is still out there. On a different shard.
Your ship disappears with you when you bed log and you don't necessarily come back to the same shard.

You need an actual mothership.
To land your mining ship in and log out.

That leaves you two options, either Prospector mining in a Polaris or 890J, or Golem mining in a whole bunch of stuff.

[gray citrus]

cargo grids still fucked after 3 weeks?

[crisp raptor]

no its fixed

[vestal ravine]

Maybe server jank. I had a perfect session on Ignis tonight.

[opal yoke]

Turns out from the feedback I got ont he reddit it seems to be a problem with the Galactanite or sth minable, we mined other rocks after and they worked fine, albeit one of our Rocs disappeared

[vestal ravine]

Ok great, I generally stick with the Fenylmaline.

[old sky]

I am at a trading post trying to buy commodities but it doesnt do anything when I click it

any idea whats going on? my ship is on the pad

[olive gull]

"on the pad"... your ship needs to be stored down in the hangar
then you select the ship as destination for anything u buy
can also select the local inventory as destination and then manually move the cargo

[warm totem]

you just want the fyn anyways, lol

[weak oyster]

hmm think ill wait for the orison demand to go down

[visual pumice]

Just bought my first C2, man what an amazing ship

[rich berry]

Damm that's a nice rock.

[sage spire]

Currently contemplating getting either the vulture or a prosepector. Both would be in game purchases, but which would be better for making money with at first? I'm thinking of using together with my C2 being purposed as a mobile base.

[rich berry]

Vulture

You can go around the mining bases where the new missons are at and salvage the wrecks

[sage spire]

You mean in Pyro?

[rich berry]

Or a bit less ( more RNG dependant and upgrading the parts) the prospector

[rich berry]

Stanton.

The mining outposts around the systems where you do the training mission for combat/ patrol

Found at least 4 player ships soft death that I scraped and got some components out of it.

[sage spire]

Ah, I get what you mean now. Thanks for the insight 🙂 Will probably go and buy the vulture now.

[sage spire]

Noice, I need to get in on some of that

[rich berry]

It just depends on what you find fun. I like both, and rotate between both loops.

[long frost]

Can someone tell me if red wind hauling pays out with experienced+ rep? I'm at member now

[rich berry]

It does, but will get to a point you get carpel tunnel of loading your ship

😂 😂

That's my reason for stopping at experienced

[sage spire]

Gotcha. I'm sitting on 3.6 mill right now so I think it will definitley be the vulture, especially if I can get ship components and sell them.

[rich berry]

@sage spire hit me up if you want to do some runs. Have 2 guys later on today to do some combat missions on the polaris, but on the weekend I can pull the reclaimer out and can help you out getting the credits for your vulture

[sage spire]

I really wish I could, but im working nights 6pm-6am from Wednesday through to Monday morning 😢

[rich berry]

No problem. Hit me up when you can, and worst case scenario, I will pull the reclaimer and you go on your own 🙂

[long frost]

Oh so someone actually reached experienced! Do they also contain hull c missions? Or just... idk...delivery of 485 scu to eight different locations?

[long frost]

@rich berry please let me know when you've got time, we can also chat via dm😅

[rich berry]

Sent you dm

[sage spire]

Have you discovered a good way to make creds solo in a reclaimer?

[rich berry]

Simple, or you go to zones where normally you get combat missons. At the moment the mining asteroid bases for example and just salvage the "paint" the easy acess parts, and then just break and much the ships.

The reclaimer has the capacity on grid for a lot, but if you stack it off grid. It's massive the ammount you can transport

Plus the buffer...

[shell sorrel]

How tf do you pop that

Surge stampede and reiger c3?

[spare cloud]

And Sabir gagdet. But mostly, not being solo.

[glass harness]

So game crashed last night and I still have all the cargo I was moving in my cat so Im taking it to GrimHex rn to sell. Ive never done before, does it give me crimestat?

[spare cloud]

No, you're good

[red timber]

Very carefully

[red timber]

2x rieger c3
Triple surge

[shell sorrel]

U can pop that with just one helix 2 and that??

[leaden monolith]

Yes they do and some very nice paying ones as well.

[glass harness]

A pen and paper and a lot of time

[long frost]

Awesome, thanks for the info. So the routes are going station to station?

[leaden monolith]

yes

[red briar]

what website is this? wowzers that's handy!

[long frost]

That's uexcorp.space

[red briar]

ok thanks so much

[long frost]

you're welcome mate

[long frost]

can you give me an example for the mission payout?

[leaden monolith]

Anywhere from 165k upto 698K

Last two times I've gone to pick up cargo in 'C' at Everus my ship has randomly blown up while in the magic cargo box.

[hollow lantern]

How long is quant ore until it goes boom

[sharp swift]

25 min

from the moment you collect the first amount

[crude thunder]

Feeling betrayed .... looked up the specs that I could find and the Drake Vulture is 1.5m taller than the internal hold for the Drake Ironclad as its currently reported. This feels like a huge oversight

[rich berry]

Lol

[long frost]

Ah sorry, I was talking about hauling for red wind in pyro all the time. I already did loads of hull c hauling in Stanton

[shut dagger]

What is the go to planet for mining? I was at yela last night and me and my buddy filled up 8 Drake pods and only made around 100-115k in unrefined ore. Not sure if I’m doing something wrong or mining the wrong type of rocks

[analog grotto]

Nothing particularly wrong with Yela.
I prefer Calliope. Cellin is another popular option.

The biggest thing is being picky about the rocks you extract and then also refining your ore for the best profit. Focus on S-Tier (Quantanium in Stanton, Quantanium, Riccite, and Stileron in Pyro) and A-Tier (Taranite, Bexalite, and Gold). I will generally skip a deposit if none of those are present or if the %s are low.

Use Regolith.rocks. they have a lot of data about ore prices, refinery yields, and player reported %s for ore/rock compositions per planet/moon.

[mossy arch]

Can't give you a straight answer because idk, but this site has the best data: https://regolith.rocks/survey/ores
Make sure to check the advanced data before choosing a place to go, some places only have like 15 data points that their supposed ore rates are based off of

also yeah refine

[analog grotto]

B tier ores are filler and can still net some extra aUEC, but if a rock only has B Tier, skip it. Never refine C tier ores.

[shut dagger]

Thank you

🫡

[analog grotto]

I really want the crafting system and mining overhaul in place. Give us a reason to care about base materials.

[mossy arch]

By mining overhaul do you mean replacing ore %s with quality? I honestly don't know about that

[analog grotto]

Quality and regional spawns (certain ores will spawn only in specific biomes)

Brings me back to the Starwars Galaxies days

[mossy arch]

If they're entirely removing the ore %s thing I think that's kind of a loss for realism, makes everything feel more gamey

Never liked quality systems in games imo

[analog grotto]

I imagine deposits will still be mixed

And that refining methods will impact quality

[olive gull]

well... in RL i've seen solo miners licking rocks to know what they are made of...

what would a Qauantaium rock would taste?

Chicken i bet

[mossy arch]

Mcdonald's sprite

[analog grotto]

One taste of quant and suddenly you can see around corners

[olive gull]

or..... get aracnic super powers !!!

[mossy arch]

Btw when is quant stabilized? I know the traditional method is get it into a refinery but can you just store it in your inventory now?

[olive gull]

yes

[analog grotto]

As long as it is stored, it's safe

But the timer starts ticking again if you pull it back out of storage. (only unrefined quant)

[mossy arch]

Hot damn, alright. Guess I'll start picking up more of the stuff, I thought every piece meant I needed to go all the way to the refinery then and there

[analog grotto]

If you don't want to wait an extreme amount of time for refining (especially with 4.2 coming "soon"), you can store all your pods on a cargo ship. Then pull one or 2 at a time onto the cargo elevator, restore the ship, go to refinery and refine.

Took my 140 hour refinery job into several 20 hours jobs

And since refining always rounds up to the next SCU right now, I feel like it can grant you some extra value. Have to take some time and math it out in Excel to really see if that's the case based on refinery yields, but anecdotally seems to be true.

Oh damn...patch watch just dropped this morning. Small jobs might not even make it 😬

4.2 making refining times shorter!

[spice shell]

"We're so sorry to hear you're having difficulties loading your Vulture onto the Ironclad. Have you seen our latest advancements in ship carriers, the Kraken?"

[shut dagger]

Is 4.2 only PTU?

Or is it live

[analog grotto]

Only PTU right now, but generally moves pretty fast to Live when "Patch Watch" is posted

If not this week, probably early next week.

[faint grove]

There's not gonna be a wipe for this patch right?

[spare cloud]

Shouldn't be

[analog grotto]

Refinery Jobs, Consumables, Ammo, and Commodities will still be wiped as per usual. Everything else should stay

[small hull]

Confirmed the atls snapping to grid is intended. Hull-a will be a money printing machine now

[deep bison]

By a LOT too

[analog grotto]

Thats wonderful

[deep bison]

wait, where did they say that, patch notes or just from playing on ptu?

[craggy tapir]

Refining is set to get faster in 4.2

Nice

Love that

[small hull]

Ptu notes

[analog grotto]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/alpha-4-2-0-patch-watch-refine-retune-restyle/8027281

Refining speeds and ATLS cargo grid snapping are in the Patch Watch. No mention in the patch notes themself though, so stealth changes.

[mossy arch]

Shit. I've got a job with 18 hours left

[pastel venture]

Does the hur-l3 station have a cargo deck for auto-loading/unloading with the hull-c? if not, is there another good station to replace it with for the best profits?

[sage spire]

how much time is a lot?

[bright wagon]

quick question, with 4.2 being in "Patch Watch" should I be stopping and collecting any active refinery orders? They get wiped on patches right?

[spare cloud]

Correct

Probably wise to collect your refinery orders now

[bright wagon]

Are the commodities safe in storage too? or do they need to be liquidated?

[spare cloud]

Cargo needs to be sold

[bright wagon]

Thanks for the help!

[olive gull]

will they delete again all modules and weapons from our ships?

[spare cloud]

Ships are always brought back to default state, but any lost component isn't intended

[olive gull]

un-equiping the components will work?

guess not.

[agile void]

Usually any components/weapons that were properly installed through the menu will appear in your home inventory so you can reinstall

[gray canyon]

Anyone know by how much the refining orders have been sped up?

[olive gull]

4.1.1 wiped all my weapons and components from all my ships, didnt that happened to you?

and not a single component went to any inventory

[olive gull]

they had not yet, wait for the patch! its on 4.2

[sullen sentinel]

Yeah i lost about 90% of my components last few patches too. CIG will say it's fixed and they'll persist going forward and then they won't, repeat ad nauseum

[gray canyon]

Ah, thought it would be getting tested by people on ptu already, hence my question

[olive gull]

PTU patch for that just poped, go ahead and test it

[gray canyon]

Ah, I don't have access to PTU haha

[spare cloud]

Did you never spend a single dollar on the game ? That's all you need to have access to the PTU atm, it's open to all backers

[orchid sun]

I thought only refinery jobs are reset, or is the cargo in inventory situation similar to the issue with ship parts, aUEC bought ships etc being lost bascially randomly?

[spare cloud]

Cargo is always lost too.

It's not saved in the LTP.

Components and ships being lost isn't intended

[olive gull]

Life Time Percutor ??? 🤔

[spare cloud]

!LTP

[jolly dagger]

Long Term Persistence

What will I keep?

For any looted items, including those looted from corpses and loot crates, place them into a location-based inventory at a station or landing zone.

For any in-game purchased ships and vehicles that get into a destroyed state after use, get the ship back to a working state, retrieve it from the repair/claim, and then store it again.

Any items gained through pledges should be fine, however it doesn't hurt to ensure they are safely stored before hand.

What will I lose?

Ships rented with aUEC.
Stackable, consumable items such as food, ammo, etc.
Refinery jobs in progress.
Cargo boxes in storage or on ships.

[orchid sun]

thank you!

[junior fern]

so I should make sure all the ships I own are claimed and stored

and store my multitool and rifle, because those are looted as well

[fallen osprey]

Wait* I thought stored cargo is lost to

So commodities / cargo

Don't we need to sell all commodities for the update as well?

[delicate tinsel]

I-I sent my refined ores to my destroyed ship and I want to cry

It was my first payout 😩

[fallen osprey]

Ouch... it let you do that?

[fallen osprey]

Big ouchies

I feel your pain

[delicate tinsel]

Apparently. I think it was bugged or something

I’m sure it doesn’t usually let you do that right? LOL

Ima have to double check everytime now

[spare cloud]

FPS gear is usually totally fine.

Almost never lost

[junior fern]

ah, alright then

would be a shame to lose my looted Citcon P8 rifles

[spare cloud]

Maybe you misread something

It is.

[fallen osprey]

Yeah I misread it. All commodities are deleted as well.

Yeah I misread it. All commodities are deleted as well.

It says stored stuff.

[olive gull]

dont remember Tritium was ever a thing..
maybe its the new thing??

[fallen osprey]

Hey yall, I have a friend i would like to buy CMATS off of, is there anyway to get the CMATS from him legally?

As in I buy them off him.

How does he sell them to me?😅

Or is there no way to buy the mats off him legally?

[sullen sentinel]

You send him money, he brings them up the freight elevator, you send them down the freight elevator

[fallen osprey]

Does that make the goods stolen? Or how do they become stolen?

[sullen sentinel]

I dont think they would be considered stolen, not certain though.

[olive gull]

there is no legal or illegal way, there is only a way

[proud jasper]

What's best for mining in the arron halo. Mining lazer power or resistance shredding?

[olive gull]

make a party

invite him to your hangar

drop the stuff on the elevator

send him credits

thats it

[fallen osprey]

If the goods are classified as stolen they are illegal. and I would be forced to sell at no questions asked locations.

[fallen osprey]

But got it. The goods will not be stolen this way

Also, is there a way to turn cargo grids off?

ie make the gaame ignore them?

[proud jasper]

using the right mouse button when traktoring them

so which is best (for a prospector) mining lazer power or reducing the reistance of the rocks.

[valid orbit]

What is the best way to make 3.5 million AUEC with industrial gameplay?

[fallen osprey]

what ships you got?

but I would say cargo hauling

[valid orbit]

I can get a nice hauler

I got the asgard

[proud jasper]

terra gate way sells medical supplies and hephestanite and you can easily sell them around. though hephestanite isn't the best profit wise

[valid orbit]

How much is Medical per SCU?

[proud jasper]

one sec

2,261 from terra gateway and the best spot to sell it is Hur-l1 which buys at 2,875.

roughly 500 profit. but it's not the best best.

[valid orbit]

Does Hur-l1 have anything good to sell going back to terra?

[proud jasper]

it sells scrap at 1,384 which you can sell to magnus gateway for 1,773

[valid orbit]

What's the best legalized cargo to haul?

[proud jasper]

hauling missions are honestly just the best way to go about making money

[fallen osprey]

I think you should just stack crago contracts dude.

I can make 470k a run from Seraphim to Dunlow

at no risk

[proud jasper]

yeah hauling has been neutered

[valid orbit]

copy

[proud jasper]

may I get some assistance now?

[fallen osprey]

I would try but honestly I mine at Yela mostly.

I want to go to the Halo soon tho.

But I would say for solo you need as much power as you can get unless your crewing a mole.

resistance shredding is good to.

but Sabir mining gadget is for that so

[past cave]

Is repairing my miner supposed to "recharge" the uses on my active modules?

[sharp swift]

It should, yes

[past cave]

I just tested, it doesnt work. It says it's **full **uses but **actual **uses don't reflect that.

You have to throw away all your active modules for full replacements to occur on repair

[gray anvil]

so whats the best way to make money ship mining?

[warm totem]

what about medal, artifacts and stuff that simply says "placeholder" ?

[warm totem]

I would say Mole, then Prospector and ROC in that order - also diff level is on par with that as well in terms of learning curves and modifications to get best results

[gray anvil]

i mean more so like where to mine and stuff it just going to astroid belts and stuff?

[simple bluff]

whats a good commodity to haul from pyro to stanton

[rich berry]

Spot on. It just depends how much you want to pledge or spend credits. But a mole with the right kit can pay for itself in 1 week ( with 4 to 5h a day mining) if you buy it with auec

[analog grotto]

Those should all be safe

!LTP

[jolly dagger]

Long Term Persistence

What will I keep?

For any looted items, including those looted from corpses and loot crates, place them into a location-based inventory at a station or landing zone.

For any in-game purchased ships and vehicles that get into a destroyed state after use, get the ship back to a working state, retrieve it from the repair/claim, and then store it again.

Any items gained through pledges should be fine, however it doesn't hurt to ensure they are safely stored before hand.

What will I lose?

Ships rented with aUEC.
Stackable, consumable items such as food, ammo, etc.
Refinery jobs in progress.
Cargo boxes in storage or on ships.

[worldly marten]

I rented a Taurus to run some larger contracts to finish Member rank.

This happened during the 2nd run

the repair cost is 230K so im just... not

[jovial matrix]

how did you manage to do that lol?

[rich berry]

Overstressed flight blades for sure 😂

[orchid void]

Is Aron halo worth going for quantanium?

Or what’s the best place to mine it?

I’ve got a fully kitted mole and. I usually mine at cellin

[sage spire]

Managed to find a reclaimer solo waiting to be salvaged. Being as im by myself, do I salvage then fracture, or just fracture and disintergrate it.

[rich berry]

Don't know about anyone else. Having more luck on planets/moons finding it than in the halo.

[rich berry]

It depends, what u running and how much you want out of it.

If you want max profit , salvage all the "paint" and the break it. ( will need another reclaimer to do it)

[sage spire]

I'm thinking of just fracturing it. The reclaimer is stock so I'm thinking this is my best bet.

[pliant lantern]

Hello anyone know what commodities have been added in 4.2?

[sage spire]

What's the best way to counteract this?

Cause as far as i know im just gonna loose all that material right?

[rich berry]

You always lose some even with the reclaimer

Yeah

Empty as much as you can

Your buffer ofc, but you will always lose some

[sage spire]

gotcha. Can't complain i suppose. I'm solo with no other reclaimers helping me out XD

[rich berry]

Even with others. Just get what you can. It's still a really chill and decently profitable loop

[sage spire]

Also, why has it got a -% by the two hull pieces?

[spare cloud]

You tried actually activating a module ? Many things show 0 until you try to use them and then they update to actual amount.

[frail cypress]

Has anyone figured out the fill order of ore pods on the mole? Based on just a few tests it feels like the left 4 pods are filled first, then the right ones.

[fallen osprey]

OK, so to buy goods off other players legally you need to have the seller send the goods up on the freight elevator, and then you sent them down.

But you MUST send them back down. Or they will be considered as stolen.

.

I may have purchased 30 16SCU boxes of CMATS from a friend to help get rid of em

[chrome verge]

Yeah you get what you can. I think of it in uec/hr instead of scu/wreck when it comes to the Reclaimer since it's such an unwieldy ship

[shrewd hinge]

https://sc-cargo.space/

[night saddle]

is there a way to put refined ores in bigger boxes? when i refine like 30SCU they all come in 4SCU boxes, not 24 SCU and 6

[spare cloud]

Heard it depends on the ships you have stored at the location when collecting the order.
Haven't been able to test this myself yet.

[rich berry]

True

[night saddle]

you mean when autoloading or putting it to station? i collect the order into the station while i have a phoenix, taurus and mole stored

[spare cloud]

Both

[raw stream]

Is Salvaging just not good right now? I spent like 3 hours last night buying salvage licenses and flying back and forth across Stanton. Then looked up the best place to sell the salvage. Total revenue was about 100k, then subtract out the licenses and quantum fuel. I could make 100k in about 30 minutes of hauling low end missions

[rich berry]

why you getting the mission besides farming the rep?

just go to the mining asteroid bases around the planets

and salvage the ships that players are killing on the bounty / merch missions

easy and simple 😄

most salvage missions are not really cost efective until you reach the 50k ones, and then you will need a reclaimer to make it worth btw

at least for the ships that need reclaimer to break them up

[raw stream]

I just returned to the game. Last played when vulture/salvaging was first introduced 🤷🏼‍♂️ didn't know the better way to do it. Is it that common for players to be doing bounty missions at mining bases that I can just wait around for it to happen?

[rich berry]

its common in this patch

they nerfed salvage as usual, after the hype of selling the ships

so at the moment by doing what i said, you can salvage a lot and sometimes find good components for selling to other players

in 40 min +/- including parking the vulture on the Polaris and comming out and unloading it to the polaris cargo space, i had around 37 scu of the recicled and 20 odd of the cosntrucion

keep in mind, i was just chilling, not even rushing or min maxing

[raw stream]

Hmm... I'll have to give that a try that out and see if I get decent profit or if I should melt my vulture for something better 😅

[rich berry]

vulture is good for farming

especially when you start from scratch

or you can try mining. as it seams next patch refining stuff will be much quicker

[frail cypress]

Vulture isn't bad at all, you can get about 380k worth of RMC in 30 minutes or less with an unverified hammerhead.

[olive gull]

the problem is that you are taking those missions, instead, you should go to an asteroid belt, like Yela or any of the Lagrange points, and hunt for Panels, they are common and easy to find, in about 40 mins i can fill-up my Vulture with 39 scus and that is worth around $400k+

You should NOT pay to do salvage, they should PAY you.

[rich berry]

true, it eats on the profit margin 😄

save up for a reclaimer and then spend the entire week salvaging to fill it up buffer and cargo space 😄

thats just on grid cargo space, if you use the rest of the space.... it gets crazzyyyy

[frail cypress]

You mean spend 10 minutes salvaging and 4 hours moving boxes? 🙂

[rich berry]

a bit, but at the same time, just not having to go to the station to unload every 30 min, and not moving 39 boxes and only 2 boxes for the same SCU basicly

it balances it out in the end

[weak oyster]

which qt drive is better for reclaimer?

(buyable)

[frail cypress]

Depends on what you want. Jump further without refuel, or go slightly faster.

[raw stream]

Thank you! What do you mean by "hunt for panels"? Sorry, super noob

[weak oyster]

i could get erebus thats on ARC l1 tho

can i with landing pad

[short tapir]

question about hauling missions, do you need to work your way up to the high paying once? all i can find is a 50k one

[spare cloud]

Erebos is faster for sub 65GM trips, so, Erebos 🤷

[vale vortex]

Yes

[spare cloud]

Lower max speed but better acceleration

Compared to Agni I mean. Nothing beats the TS-2

[short tapir]

oh thank god xD i thought i waws stuck with 9 scu in my taurus xD

[spare cloud]

No. Need to claim the Reclaimer at ARC L1 or move the drive to somewhere you can spawn the reclaimer

[short tapir]

how does it work? it says pick up cargo but the wp is "inside" the station

[spare cloud]

Land at the station. Use the freight elevator inside your hangar.

!hauling

[jolly dagger]

Hauling Missions

These contracts require you to collect cargo from and deliver to stations, outposts and other facilities.
To collect you must land on an outpost pad and/or in a hangar and retrieve the cargo from the freight elevator, and then deliver to the destination cargo elevator.

The bigger the ship, the more you can haul!

[vale vortex]

You have to pick it up from your hangar's freight elevator in that same station

[short tapir]

Arh Right thank you

[olive gull]

check this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2CbN6T0BF0

[frigid jetty]

Doing some group salvaging on an EU server if any others want to join, send me a DM
I did post in the looking for session channel but it seems that everyone uses that for combat orientated stuff so sorry if not allowed

[short tapir]

how do i see my rank in cargo runs? it still says rookie despite i did like 10 missions at once

[limpid sluice]

Go to the rep tab of mobiglas and select whatever company you've been doing work for

[plain seal]

cargo is a hell to climb rank, but you don't really need it, stack the right amount of rookie ans you'll do more thn with higher rep unless you have a really big ship ( i'd say >500scu cargo grid)

[plain seal]

i'ts used for everything, but not many ppl like to do anything that doesn't involve unaliving something

also, how does your group thing work? i could be interested^^

[frigid jetty]

Yeah, used it for mining and salvaging and Ive rarely had responses ^^

[frigid jetty]

1 guy in caterpiller, everyone else in vultures

[junior fern]

you can say killing ya know

[frigid jetty]

go do some ERTs, and then munch away

[plain seal]

i could have, but i didn't^^

[frigid jetty]

and then we usually have 1 person in a reclaimer to collect the construction material

[plain seal]

if you're still running i'd be up in a few min^^

[frigid jetty]

Sure, we are on our own server if that's okay

[plain seal]

i don't really care^^
also hows the pay split?

[frigid jetty]

the caterpiller flier will sell in pyro otherwise if someone logs off its counted as stolen and get little value - pyro doesnt have limitations

then next time you're online you'll get your share

I usually pass on getting paid, means others get bigger fill

[verbal lintel]

Is there something I have to do to be able to pull components from ships Im salvaging? Or are some just not able to be pulled. Was able to pull some from a corsair earlier, but now I cant on this Polaris.

[analog grotto]

Don't believe you can take components off of Capital ships.

[olive gull]

if its your own ship, unlock the ports, otherwise... disable the ship

[verbal lintel]

Ill make note if it for next time. It was not my ship, and another lesson I learned: Turn the ship completely off, not just the shields.

Got a little ways into scraping when the PDCs went live

Gotta hand it to my vulture though, shes a tough ol bird. Survived my prolonged panicked ineptitude and got me out of there.

[olive gull]

ineeed she is..

[verbal lintel]

I was hoping id finally have an opportunity to do some hand repairs with the cambrio, but its not showing any damage.

the gun i mean

ship shows a red arm and ass

[olive gull]

believe there is a new mission for that, do repairs i mean, saw it the other day

[verbal lintel]

Oh ive been doing those. I mean repair the damage to my ship with the cambrio. Came across someone flying around who mentioned he self repaired his ship.

[olive gull]

its theoretically possible, i've never tried tho

[short tapir]

my goal is to get the hull c at somepoint (again)

and do cargo they should pay pretty well and are somewhat fast

[olive gull]

Does anyone have a theory or gossip about when the big patch 4.2 will drop?

[stuck totem]

it's possible?

[chrome verge]

Repairing seems to get the part HP up to maybe 70-80%

[median sluice]

Does anyone have tips on how I can maximize money from ROC mining

Is salvage more profitable? I’m been grinding in my vulture but I’m sick of it

[uneven phoenix]

Been seeing some people say the C2 is annoying to load/unload. But not totally sure why, thought the big open cargo bay would make it easy compared to the cat. Any C2 haulers able to provide insight would be greatly appreciated!

[past fractal]

The C2 isn't really a cargo ship is the thing. It's a vehicle courier. It has no tractor beam, super high ramps, and a really bad layout cargo-wise for anything other than very large boxes. Cargo isn't just about moving boxes, it's about efficiency. The Cat right now has a bad tractor beam placement and wonky doors, but it has 5 areas to separate cargo into, which is ideal for doing more than just running everything to one location. In the current iteration of cargo, the C2 is fine for it, but in the future, it won't be very desirable, and shouldn't be

Thinking of a moving truck. You want low ramps, easily separatable areas for goods of various types, lots of secure straps and anchors, and everything should fit both in well, and come out well. The C2 is like loading and unloading a mail airplane. It's fine if it's all packages you can put on a big pallet, but otherwise sucks at the task.

[chrome verge]

Roc mining will make less but if you're sick of salvage it doesn't hurt to switch or take a break

[analog grotto]

Rented the C2 during ILW. Hated it for running cargo missions. Much rather run with the RAFT for those. Had to park it farther away from elevators than other ships due to its size and had issues loading it with an ATLS (probably a me problem).
However it did excellent at mining operations with a Golem and/or ROC + extra ore bags.

[past fractal]

Yeah, the RAFT is arguably one of the best cargo ships right now, but it's also the most recently updated. Second place I'd give the Taurus, and third probably the C1. Unfortunately, most cargo ships are either older designs suffering from a lack of updates, or modern designs designed by people who don't understand cargo (like the Zeus...)

Even the Hull C is wildly impractical... Not to mention the sheer number of bugs it has. Honestly, the whole Hull series is nonsensical for anything other than the most low value, worthless crap you just need to move lots of.

[jovial matrix]

I dont know what you mean, the hull A is an excellent little hauler

[past fractal]

Because the cargo is on the outside, the cargo is easy to rip off if you simply disable it. Hulls are like box trucks, just take the box

[warm totem]

I'm calling friday midday...

[warm totem]

bring 4 extra bags with you -and when the rock breaks swap to collect immediately, you can often suck up everything before it blasts gems all over the place - saves time! Also if you can carry a second ROC with you if by chance you ruin the first one!

And insist on fyn only

[jovial matrix]

You could do the same thing with a raft though

[tranquil mist]

What's a good industrial gameplay to get into? I have tried salvaging but it doesn't seem very profitable

[safe ridge]

hello

i came here with a question
i want to have a venting mod on my mining lser but idk how or where to geet them waht are the options where can i find information about it

[frail cypress]

If you are lucky, mining is the best profit. If you can handle mind numbing boring grind, stack hauling contracts. Salvage is not bad, can make 400k/hour reliably.

[spare cloud]

Check regolith.rocks

Can make loadouts and see where to buy the modules

[safe ridge]

Thanks

[junior fern]

can at least aleviate the mind numbing length by using an ATLS, makes a 15-20 minute load time 5 minutes

[frail cypress]

Yea you can do that at the location where you put the boxes on/in the ship, but not where you arrive. For now at least, the patch will solve that problem.

[tranquil mist]

Thanks man, apparently 4.2 makes dealing with refineries less tedious. I do have a Orion so I should give modern mining a go. Thanks

[lament zodiac]

Hello, is there anyone here I can ask questions to about getting into mining?

[spare cloud]

Just ask

[lament zodiac]

Alright,

I have currently been doing hauling for some time, it pays well, but it is unbelievably boring (and just glitchy beyond belief with Hull C+ sized ships with the autoload/unload).

I wanted to maybe get into Mining, I was wondering if the transition from 1M-1.4M an hour to mining would be worth it? Even if it is in the long run

[frail cypress]

If you sell quant to players, and if that remains viable in the near future then 1m an hour will look like pocket change.
If you just sell to npcs, not so much.
It's definitely more interesting though.

[spice shell]

Check out elguapo on YouTube for mining stuff.

[sharp swift]

Is making money the most important thing to you? Mining won't feel like a huge money maker right away, but it is pretty satisfying and varied.

[warm totem]

I agree, you will probably find anything you do repetitively to be boring - forget about the in game money unless your going to buy something specific - make your own missions. go find your own boxes to haul, they are out there for free.

I've had over 200 million at one point - the money wipe taught me to play a much different game and a more satisfying one. It isn't the destination, its the ride!

[sharp swift]

SC is also just a very different game to me, it is a closer representation to real life; anyone of us could strive to make the most money in real life but it would be via a job that we don't necessarily enjoy.

I started out the same way: Hauling = $$$$ with no combat skills required. But eventually, I found myself questioning my goals/gaming philosophy.

[spice shell]

I agree. I take missions with my friends and ride along. It's very obviously less efficient but far more fun. Combat is a blast, but I think the most fun I've had is in mining. The Mole feels amazing with a crew!

I also loaded up 2 ROCs into a Taurus and went planet side where I'd drop them off and pick them up to escort them to a new node I'd find. We learned we needed special suits to mine.

It was a lot of fun.

[pliant umbra]

Hi, can someone tell me how do you unlock the 700k contract in hauling at Pyro when i have them in Stanton?

I saw on Youtube some people doing it like a week ago

[mild pumice]

Pyro contract are with redwind line haul but levelling up is a pain because 90% of the missions are bugged (pick up from multiple locations that won'tcomplete) and the rep seems to be very small per job

[rich berry]

where did you find that monster?

[tall karma]

Quant mining is the highest profit if you're willing to sell to players trying to "craft" a polaris

[lofty drift]

this is true i’ve made 18 mil mining the past 3 days

should i grind member rank rep with the hull c? i see a couple interplanetary missions and im dead on spending a long time loading up

im thinking of either getting a hull-c or switching up to a mole (i currently mine with a prospector)

[orchid void]

If you've made 18mil with a prospector mining quant

imagine how much you could do with a mole

I've mined in both for a long time and I gotta say Mole is way better than prospector, you get used to moving from pilot to turret, but you'll never get used to not being able to break a rock cause your prospector's too small

(There are still rocks that a solo mole can't break)

[jagged raft]

Random q about finding quant

I literally have not seen a rock with quant since 3.2. Where are people looking that they are finding so much?

I was out mining for almost 4h yesterday and while I found basically everything else, (good profit regardless) I did not find any quantanium.

[rich berry]

same

[floral lichen]

I go to the Aaron halo between arc and hur because the likelihood of seeing another player is very very very slim. Quant pickings aren’t terrific but they’re there

[somber jewel]

Currently mining hadanite on aberdeen but when it's done mining it doesn't spawn any gems, i have to hand pick them all from the rock "root" or what's left of the base from the rock.

[olive gull]

on YT, look for 'ElGuapoe', he's a dedicate Miner with great guides, including ofc, where and how do Quantanium

[orchid sun]

i'm just mining cellin and i'm finding plenty, although there are droughts, just a high variance endeavor

Looking for a vibe check, mining quant today/tomorrow still worth it with the patch coming soonish?

[lofty drift]

Specific Rock types with specific Common minerals

[short tapir]

I need some advice.
Right now, I own a Constellation Taurus for cargo runs and such. I really want to upgrade it so I can do more cargo missions — it takes freaking forever to grind cargo when I'm only doing 2–3 junior missions per trip.

I’ve got around 4 million aUEC, and unfortunately, the Starlifter C2 and the MISC Freelancer MAX are currently pulled from the ship upgrade store (I was planning to upgrade the Taurus to the MAX).

So now I’m stuck with having to buy a new ship in-game, but I’m not sure what to go for — I want something good for cargo, but not on the high end of the price range.

[lofty drift]

ill give y'all my mining location: Ignis, Pyro V look for Shale Aluminum and Granite Aluminum

meaning look for shale & granite rocks that have aluminum (on ignis only)

[olive gull]

oficially, they only said they changed the Refineries, who knows what else they cahgned behind screens, we'll see

[lofty drift]

elguapoe on YT has good quant video

[olive gull]

so, you want something with more cargo or something easier to load?

ya know, we currently have the Asgard on sale...

in paper... its 180 scu

but in reality... 300+

[short tapir]

more cargo but something easier will also help (i love the taurus design wize just not whwen i have to load it)

[short tapir]

It just have very little extra cargo than my taurus (I belive its around 169 my taurus has)

[olive gull]

check this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOrTBoYD8Fo&list=WL&index=3

[olive gull]

the RAFT then may be for you, they made changes to its grid and its really, REALLY good

[lofty drift]

save up the AUEC

[olive gull]

and cheap, about 3m

[lofty drift]

get a raft and then move up to a C2

[short tapir]

isnt that like 96 scu storage cap?

[olive gull]

192

as said, they REALLY improved the RAFT

[short tapir]

yeah i know its not a long way up to the starlancer max (its like 8,8mill in game) it just seems far (at leasti m half way)

[lofty drift]

I use the starlancer max

[short tapir]

oh really?! thats cool i always loved the design of the raft

[lofty drift]

its a comfy cargo ship

[short tapir]

thats the one i wanted to upgrade to (but then they pulled it from the upgrade ship store)

[olive gull]

its 3.5m

[short tapir]

yeah i like it

thats actually cheap when you think about it it its treally 192 scu (it seems they didnt update the main page)

[olive gull]

Erkul knows better 😎

[short tapir]

Yeah xD Trust the fan base to keep the information up to date :p

they always keep it updated

[olive gull]

and on 4.2 you can stick the Atlas upside down on the RAFT's grid, its quite funny xD

[short tapir]

oh yeah i saw that on a video that is just cool

and it takes less time to load it than the taurus

[olive gull]

10-15 mins, depending on the boxes

bigger boxes lesser time

[short tapir]

i will never understand the way they handle what ships we can buy and what we cant, they want our money but we cant buy all ships (or upgrade them)

i better go and scrape while i think things over (i getting really tired of scraping xD takes forever to do but the money is good (vulture)

[slate spruce]

When I bought 32 SCU containers at a L station, is there a way to summon them in medium hangar? The freight elevator keeps saying that I have to discard the cargo, but I don't have any bigger ship to get L/XL hangar.

[olive gull]

no, that's something for CIG to fix
maybe at a Mining post?

ahh they are on your local inv.... NVM

[short tapir]

can the raft be rented? (if i wanted to test it a few days?)

[spare cloud]

!itemfinder ⬇️

[jolly dagger]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to obtain them) in-game.

[short tapir]

Thank you

[short tapir]

is renting ships the same place as buying them in Loreville?

[olive gull]

nope, rent console is near the hangar elevators

[short tapir]

ill try and locate it thanks

[olive gull]

you wont regret buying the RAFT, i didnt

Loooove the sound of its engines...

[short tapir]

I must admit its a very sexy looking aircraft its like with the catapillar it SCREAMS industrial and the color is sexy

i rented it for 3 days that should give me enough time to decide if i like it or not

[near swallow]

Send the elevator down, then put the cargo containers on the left.

[slate spruce]

I tried precisely that, and this is the response from the freight elevator:

[near swallow]

You put too many on at once then. You need to put fewer containers on at one time, which may mean splitting the stack.

[slate spruce]

That's with single one

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-168099

[olive gull]

its a known... idk if is intended, big boxes can go down but refuse to go up, i tried pulling out a single S5 attrition and it said NOPE

[near swallow]

A single 32 SCU container wouldn't overload an elevator, but what looks like a single one might actually be a stack of them

Must be some weird bug I've never encountered

[slate spruce]

Nope, it's a single one. I've bought a stack of 6. Tried it, got the error. Split off 1, tried it with that one, still got the error. Rinse and repeat, still the same

[meager pumice]

I rented my first RAFT last night and I didn't even get it off the ground before I went to the pledge store to upgrade only to find out it's not currently available for pledge 😭 why does CIG hate my money

Easily my new favorite hauler

[olive gull]

ooohhh yes it isnt on sale, so sad

[glass chasm]

it Is awesome though, imho of all ships I own, this is the only one that so far I have had ZERO bugs with. it just works. It does the job, it is made well for what it is supposed to do. I LOVE the raft.

[fallen osprey]

Hey yall, so I am trying to pick up a couple refinery orders and it has a message saying processing your request on screen which never goes away.

It won't let me stop and collect my order and collect my other order...

[olive gull]

did you tried on a different server?

[fallen osprey]

Server hoping now.

[glass chasm]

server hopping is usually the trick

[fallen osprey]

ill try the EU server

[eternal cloak]

anyone near cellin mining wanna help break a big rock?

[south finch]

Can a single person control this ship or does it require two people like the ROC-DS?

[south finch]

Wouldn’t server hopping relocate you at a different spawn point?

[glass chasm]

no it stays at the same station, you'll just wake up at the habitat again

[south finch]

Ah ok, so when you land at a different station thats set as your new spawn point automatically? Sorry for the questions, Im new to the game so Im just curious & trying to learn.

[glass chasm]

No, but there is a difference between spawning after logging back into your server and spawning after dying! When you die, you spawn back at your home city you initially selected OR at the station where you manually set your spawn point through the regen terminals in the hospital. If you log out and back in (or server hop, same) you spawn back in at a habitat in the station or city you are currently at.

[south finch]

So thats where Im confused because for me I can only logout when Im in my ship & it has to be physically in space laying in bed (I have a cutter) so I cant logout any other way. Which is why I asked it because when I read that you said server hopping youll end up in the same station. So you have to pretty much reset the spawn point yourself manually at that station to server hop? Without just quitting & finding a new one.

[glass chasm]

No. 😄 You are getting things a bit confused. You can also ! (also!) log out via bedlogging. However, you cannot server hop back in then, well you can ubt not in your ship. Because ships in space are physical objects actually sitting in that specific server. So if you bedlg out on AUS server, you can't bedlog back in on US server then. Your ship will be gone and you'll spawn at the last station where you were before.

which also goes for when you just log out outside of a space station through the escape menu, w/o bedlogging - you spawn back in at the last station or city you were in before

[lofty drift]

FUUUUUCKKKK

[olive gull]

its Single pilot Cargo Hauler

[junior fern]

all of the haulers can be solo ran

[warm totem]

I am not sure I understand you. I logout (bedlog) in space or at perhaps a cave entrance and server hop all the time. I wake up in my ship where I bedlogged. I do this regularly. Now if you don't bed log, yeah you'll be sent back to your last location or your home location. If you lose internet, you can still sometimes get right back into the game right where you were - without bedlogging. I exited during a "server error" and when I reconnected I was literally in the exact same place and continued my QT jumps to my destination. SO I guess it can be a bit confusing, but for me I bed log in my ship and swap servers no problem.

[glass chasm]

You said everything the way I said it, except you are right about the ability to bedlog on server A and then join back in on server B. I was tired and distracted, not thinking straight - of course you can do that and the ship will spawn on server B with you in bed again. Other than that, all you said is the same I said. 😄 About the errors: Yes, if you have an internet issue, server error or manually Alt+F4, you have about 5ish mins to come back and you'll spawn back in in the same spot / situation.

[warm totem]

Any idea on how to fix a backpack that won't let me "move all" to a storage container? The core works but transferring things one by one I keep either pulling off armor from myself or it just wont go. I have resorted to putting the backpack in the storage crate and then dragging it up then re-equiping it...

[snow spade]

Hello, small question, on hauling missions, when this is accepted, I have a timer on it, what happend if I deliver the mission after the timer ? I gain less money and reputation ? Or I just simply can't deliver the mission ? Or there is no effect ?

[hollow sedge]

Hello, just got in the verse! Exciting to start my industrial career 🙂 Is this a good starter fleet for a young industrial entrepreneur?

[chrome verge]

Yep

[rich berry]

Whats the insurance on that?

[short tapir]

okay i did some deliveries in the raft(cant remember who recommended it to me yesterday)

Itsa great ship it just handles like a brick.
Also i feel like each pad should have a tracktor beam so you can just press a button and all the crates gets sent to the ground (easy unload)

[hollow sedge]

on Hull-B and Vulture 120 months

Why should i care anyway?

I guess i'll make enough money to extened the insurance in game when time comes

[short tapir]

Man i hope they fix the crate bug where you cant use the atls and onboard tracktor beam on crates you already placed on the pads(you have to use the handheld tracktorbeam)

[short tapir]

is it safe to add cargo to the freight elevator that dosnt stick to the pad?

or will it disapear

[chrome verge]

It's risky

[orchid void]

Do you suggest pyro or stanton to hunt quantanium?

[chrome verge]

Pyro IMHO. Better probability since clusters will have more rocks.

[short tapir]

i wont do it then

[orchid void]

and do you suggest a cluster or a planet?

regolith shows some clusters have 33% quant

..

[chrome verge]

In general, planetside for more and bigger rocks per cluster, and asteroid belts for the convenience of easier travel time.

Regolith info is player sourced. Still needs filling out, but I think it's assumed that quant has a roughly 5% global spawn rate with some location-based fluctuations.

[fallen osprey]

I'll be honest I thought I wanted a reclaimer😂. Until I unloaded a friend's last night😂

Any idea when CIG will make improvements to the reclaimer?

Like... I mean. The remote turrents dont work, and unloading the thing is a nightmare...

[sharp swift]

All in due time, many things are being worked on

[chrome verge]

Salvage deck to elevator, you can get 3x 16 scu boxes off the ship in 60s, round trip. 10 minutes for 480 scu.

[fallen osprey]

Yeah, ik CIGs been cookin for sure.

[fallen osprey]

Thats what I started using tho the actual owner believes the poop shoot is the best way

Which... the shoot is a great idea😂 but God dang they could have made it a bit bigger or even better made it fold out of the way

.

Also... do the remote turrents not work on the reclaimer? I am only aware of the pilot and "manned turrent" up top

[chrome verge]

In one of the videos the CIG dev said that the Reclaimer needs a major update

[fallen osprey]

Ah- they admit it😂

This is good

[chrome verge]

They work, but only 2 at a time, and I think someone on the console disables the pilot slaved turrets

[fallen osprey]

Huh- I couldn't even get those consoles on...

No power button and U doesn't kick em on...

[chrome verge]

Yeah the older ships are a mess

[fallen osprey]

I can see that😅. I will admit the nicest ship I have had so far was hands down the Zues mk2 cl

That thing was bueatiful. Except the cargo grid that sucked.

[chrome verge]

Yep. All the newest ships look and work great but the old ones are mostly touched up once in a while, but mostly left on the shelf

[fallen osprey]

Makes sense CIG likes money afterall

And old ships dont sell😂

At least not near as well as new shiny ones.

[spice shell]

Because they abandon them. People are regularly asking about and including older ships in their fleets.

[fallen osprey]

Well that's because nothing can take their place.

Like the reclaimer. No other ship ig can do what a reclaimer does.

It has no competition for its role. Same as the Mole.

[sharp swift]

We are hoping for a medium-salvager

rootin for Argo

[fallen osprey]

I think a large salvager would be peak.

[spice shell]

Started salvage is coming.

Starter.

[fallen osprey]

We 100% do not need that😂

Isn't that basically the MISC Fortune?

[spice shell]

No, think golem vs prospector

[fallen osprey]

I mean its not as good as the vulture and has the same role😅

[sharp swift]

Yes but those ships have a game package attached, so it lowers the cost for entry into the gameloop

[rich berry]

The raft wants a word with you.

[muted cairn]

Just bought my first ship the other day. Got a Raft.

[short tapir]

wwhen you try to sell the cargo you got from using the reclaiming whats the fastest way to sell ?( last i tried i kept running into no demand and i spend a long time server jumping)

[shut dagger]

So I did a mining haul yesterday and filled up 6 Drake pods. Do I have to move all the pods in the elevator or can I keep it on my ship to refine/sell?

[lime vessel]

Just store the ship and go to the refinery. If you have Quantainium in it, storing the ship will stop the timer aswell.

[shut dagger]

Is it only good to refine quant or all the ore? I’m kinda getting used to this but.

[chrome verge]

Have a friend or hire someone to collect your cargo in the field and sell it to all the different stations for you. Btw my going rate is 30%

No landing, no searching, just cash on pickup and I handle the tedium

[short tapir]

question im trying to do this mission and im on the station but the cargo dosnt show up in my freight elevator? :S any way to making it show up in my freight elevator?

[tropic thorn]

I’m looking to get into mining or large scale cargo transport, I have no money, and very little skill, where should I start?

[orchid void]

To get into mining it's as easy as renting a prospector!!

[fallen osprey]

If you wanna make bank run small cargo missions😅

Like the ones from Seraphim to Orison.

[fallen osprey]

What ships and how much aUEC you got?

[olive gull]

are you at Seraphin Station? if so mission may got bug, abandon and re-take it

[fallen osprey]

I think the elevators are just buggy had issues last night to.

I recommend sending the elevator back down again, and sending it back up

I unloaded a bunch if stuff at Orison yesterday (mined goods) and about half disappeared for like 10 minutes.

And then I had another elevator which just completely vanished until I sent it down (and it magically appeared...)

[tropic thorn]

The one beginner drake brick lookin thing and no money

[fallen osprey]

The cutter?

Or the cutlass?

[tropic thorn]

Cutter

[fallen osprey]

Guessing the cutter...

Hmmm

[tropic thorn]

4 scu I believe

[fallen osprey]

Rent a cutlass Black and run cargo😂

[orchid void]

or a C1

for 70k around that

[fallen osprey]

C1 or Cutlass Black

[tropic thorn]

Is it dependent on the ship owner or the person who buys and sells the cargo, cause my father has a cutlass I can borrow

[fallen osprey]

Either or

[fallen osprey]

So ship owner has to request hangers but anyone can haul other people's loads

So you can borrow his cutlass B you just need to be on at the same time.

You can even just do it on his account and transfer the $$

[fallen osprey]

.I have tried mining and it really doesn't make that much

Or at least fast

[tropic thorn]

I’m pretty patient, what abt cargo hauling?

[fallen osprey]

Cargo hauling us easy, safe and you can make around 400k/hrs stacking cargo hauling missions

Just its kinda dull

Welcome to box hell. Tho I'll admit the tractor beam makes it quite a bit faster.

(Mining you can probally make about the same but its way harder and more complicated. And you have to wait to make money)

[spice shell]

Mining makes bank, but it's probably the most complex industrial discipline and so it doesn't give the goods right away. It takes time to master it. That, and there's quite a bit of RNG involved, but boy can that pay big. You've got dudes earning 1.5 mil an hour mining sometimes. It can average down hard, but it pays.

Cargo is nice and consistent but gets boring imo. Salvage is maybe in-between. Probably even less risky, but you're competing with people absolutely dumping RMC at shops.

Eventually cargo will get better as an industrial loop. They're going to add special cargo requirements. Think Hazmat stuff like radiation, explosive volatility, etc. it'll add more variety down the road, which will be nice.

[tropic thorn]

Would it be easier to join a mining group and work around more experienced players while I learn?

[spice shell]

Hell yeah it would. Getting help understanding how to leverage modules and components is a big deal. Understanding where to go and what to look for is their bread and butter.

Miners have all sorts of little tips and tricks for the trade. They'll help you avoid getting pirated, managing harder rocks, etc.

There's resources on YouTube and stuff, too. You don't strictly need to join an org. You can slide into mining at your own pace, but know up front that profitability is going to take a little time.

It's worth incorporating some hauling in-between, where you can listen to a video on mining while doing a hauling mission, which you can do while you wait for your stuff to refine. Make a bit of cash first so you can leverage the tools of the mining trade.

And don't let anyone tell you the Golem isn't worth your time. It's a great little ship that can get you in and out quickly. Just be careful not to torpedo yourself.

[fallen osprey]

I agree with this. I actually am a miner to. I have a golem and a mole (with a prospector loner)

But if i wanna make bank I am running cargo with the C2

[fallen osprey]

Yeah its way easier. Mining a pain to do alone.

Best crew a mole with 2-3 people.

Not sure what the fair crew wage for mole mining is

But if i had to guess its ~200k / hrs/person.

[spice shell]

Crew mining is a lot of fun. I've really enjoyed running a mile or doing other variations on crew mining.

[spice shell]

It's definitely a lot more consistent! It feels a bit like the hare and turtle race. It's sort of slow and steady. It also doesn't take a ton of brain power, so you can typically chill.

Mining feels a lot more involved. You're weighing a lot more variables and much more actively engaged.

[fallen osprey]

I completely agree. I like mining.

I love running my mile with my friends

Mole*

And ironically still need the c2 for mining😂

Gotta move mats to make money

[fallen osprey]

Just check every 15 minutes or so

What i did, is it went there sold my junk, and got dinner

The went back and sold more junk

And came back the next day and sold the rest of the junk

[short tapir]

yeah i was iv actually had a lot of bugs on this station 😦 same i also get a lot of nav bugs going from orison to seraphin station

[short tapir]

oh it resets after 15?

[fallen osprey]

Not entierly. I think it goes down by a certain amount. Am not 100% sure tho.

Pretty sure demand partially resets every 15 minutes... which I'll be honest is kinda silly

[short tapir]

yeah it is :S honestly they shouldnt have added demands yet when the servers are not ready for it

i guess you could fly around to 10 stations selling but meh

[fallen osprey]

Nav bugs can be avoided by using F2 to set a course from Seraphim to Orison. For some reason you cant always go straight from Seraphim to Orison. I actually flied the entier way before to lol. Very dumb

[short tapir]

i tried that it shows up then goes away then i click again it shows up and goes away. So i just jump somewhere i can target

[fallen osprey]

Haven't had that bug for awhile lol

[short tapir]

me neither i guess its my own fault for trying to grind cargo lool

[hollow pewter]

Anyone know when the Golem will be available for in-game purchase?

[analog grotto]

I think the timeframe was normally 2 patch cycles, which should have put it in 4.2 alongside the ATLS GEO, but there is no mention in the patch notes. Maybe 4.2.1?

[spare cloud]

Nope

[hollow pewter]

Damn, thats a long ways away still. I dont know… maybe I should just get the Prospector.

[analog grotto]

Prospector has better options for lasers.

[fallen osprey]

I did have that bug when I picked it up origionally.

[analog grotto]

And can hold more by switching the bags to mole bags. It's a solid mining option.
Comes with an interior too so you can eat/drink and drop active mining modules for replacements without having to go 15m away from your ship like the golem

[hollow pewter]

Really? What components should I get, if I do buy a prospector?

[analog grotto]

Honestly you'll generally just run a Helix 1. Same power as the golems pitman without the resistance/instability drawbacks

[hollow pewter]

Knowledge is priceless! Here I was wanting a Golem for the aesthetics lol

[fallen osprey]

The prospector is better than the Golem. 1: you can modify your prospector to use Mole bags. Which hold 12SCU ore instead of 8. (Total cargo of 48SCU over 32)

[analog grotto]

The biggest thing the golem has going for it IMO is that it's much more nimble

[hollow pewter]

Also, how do I mine those rocks that are marked as IMPOSSIBLE. Is there a way?

[analog grotto]

Depends on the mass and resistance

[fallen osprey]

As for the laser I recommend the Helix 1 (same power of the Golems but without resistance debuff) and for mods its up to you buy i would go a stamped and a reiger C3

[fallen osprey]

Na, its just smaller.

[analog grotto]

If it's high resistance, putting a Sabir gadget on it might make it mineable. However, the mass is gonna be your biggest limiting factor

[fallen osprey]

So you can shove a Golem into a C2

[hollow pewter]

That is very interesting

[analog grotto]

Ah, ya. That's useful too. Did some runs with it in the Asgard during ILW

[fallen osprey]

Oh it fits in an Asgaurd to? Dang

[fallen osprey]

Yeah I think I can fit 2 golems in a C2 and some extra ore pods

Best bit about the golem

But your limited by the lasers increased resistance

[analog grotto]

Yup. It's a tight squeeze and I definitely blew up the first time because I went in too fast, but you can fit a Golem + 4 extra bags

[fallen osprey]

Yeah atm the Golem is best when in a mining fleet simply because its a dinky thing. But the prospector outperforms it accross the board basically. And the Mole crushes the competition atm in terms of its capabilitys.

[hollow pewter]

Got it. I’m still pretty new to the game. Just got a Vulture, and am now saving up for a mining ship.

Thanks for the advice guys!

[left ore]

In the Vulture, when you create the RMC canisters for the multitool, it seems that the "Full" ones are empty when they're built? Has anyone experienced that? I made sure not to craft the (empty) ones but they still came out empty and required hand-salvaging to fill them up with RMC.

[chrome verge]

Might be a new bug worth reporting

[olive gull]

i fail to understand when you say "..RMC canisters for the multitool.." you mean for hand salvaging?

[left ore]

Yes, for doing repair missions in my case

vs the ones for the full-size tool. I'm just spacing on the real names.

[limpid sluice]

Cambrio and cambrio lite canisters, iirc

[left ore]

Yes, the Cambrio lite canisters, that's it. You have the option to create a "normal" or an "(empty)" one. Even though the regular one said 250/250, when it was attached, the tool interface showed 0%, and I was able to fill it from a crashed ship.
I made 3 just to be sure, and they all behaved the same. I'll try it again this weekend if I get some SC time. Thanks.

[limpid sluice]

Probably worth an issue council report

[orchid void]

How many aUec/hour should I pay someone crewing my reclaimer?

In your opinion

[spare cloud]

Even split

[unkempt steeple]

should i save up for a reclaimer or a hull c?
which is more profitable?

[past fractal]

If all you care about is profit, both are going to be disappointing. The Reclaimer is a pain in the ass without crew, and sometimes impossible without crew due to bugs. The Hull C has so many well known bugs you could start a colony with them.

[coarse stag]

LoudGuns’ hauling vid does seem to suggest that you can make a lot of money with the Hull C once you rep up.

[junior fern]

even with the bugs you should still be able to profit well

[lament zodiac]

Does anyone know is Pyro hauling contracts pay more in the long run?

[chrome verge]

You could argue based on risk or time or effort spent, but as long as everyone agrees anything will work. Equal split is easy math, no headache.

[rich berry]

Reclaimer solo is quite chill. Worst case scenario you put some music on, and just go pannel hunting. Making some money being really chilled. Didn't have any bugs, the only low point is the unloading, they really need to rework that.

[proud plover]

With salvage how would I be able to get components like a F7C ball turret?

[olive gull]

• go to a PVP hotspot, like laser platform on Daymar, Contested Zones or any other place they fight.
• find a F7A abandoned or half destroyed
• use the tractor beam to detatch the weapons, or whatever, from the derelic ship
• put it on your ship's cargo and head back to station
  this more a Recycling job than Salvaging, dont need the Vulture for that

[proud plover]

Would that work for a pve thing also?

[olive gull]

yes, anywere you can find abandoned ships
the other day i found a F7A just outside GrimHex
sometimes i find them parking on Bunkers
darn things are everywhere!

[proud plover]

Cool. Just in case I get a hornet lol

[olive gull]

not just for that, ships may also have Ardor repeaters or NDBs, you NEED them

[past fractal]

You only need them to have a meta loadout for PvP...

[olive gull]

meh, fack PVP

[past fractal]

NN series cannons are going to be needed in the upcoming patch

[olive gull]

those are really cool !

[past fractal]

If you aren't doing PvP, attritions tend to be better suited to the task since they are easier and cheaper to repair as needed

Which also come in more sizes than 1, 2, and 3, like NBDs, Ardors, and NN's

[crude thunder]

Does the Misc Fortune have a crafting terminal like the Vulture does?

[olive gull]

yes

but boxes go magically outside

[fallen osprey]

Hey yall, I am wondering is there any reason to have an Impact laser on the Mole?

I mean between the Hof and Helix II what does the impact offer?

Also what is the fastest charging quantum drives we can buy?

[spare cloud]

Hemera QD is what you'll want to buy for the fastest trips

There isn't any QD you can buy that accelerates as fast as it does

Perfect for short/mid trip to refinery

Huracan is decent, could keep it for a number of reasons on other ships, but for a mining ship, I'd say it's worth changing for the Hemera. It's precious time you can win when carrying Quant

Also Huracan has a lot longer cooldown time.
They all have the same spool up time.

As for the Impact mining head, I use it myself as a mid power extraction head. Point is it has 3 slots for FLTR-XL modules, and no point having an Helix for that.

[fallen osprey]

I think I'll swap to this loadout for my crewed mole.

[fallen osprey]

The FLTR-XL mods have additional filtering correct?

[spare cloud]

I'm not sure I would use this for a crewed MOLE, cause you're losing on a lot of potential for very large rocks.

Probably would rather have two Helix power dedicated.

[fallen osprey]

More Helix?

[spare cloud]

Yes, so you can care less about inert materials and extract more of the good stuff.

[fallen osprey]

Like aluminum😂😂😂

Worthless mat😅

[fallen osprey]

Gotcha. Also when I break rocks should I basically always put a Opti-max on it to get better clusters?b

Or should I worry about that?

Opti-max is kinda pricy at like 20k a piece...

Is it worth it?

And guessing we will get it back 66% of the time about.

[spare cloud]

Yeah, it's a bit pricy to use it everytime.
But if you're good, never break rocks with red, it can be used 6-7 times before needing to change it, and for some rocks it's very helpful. But not worth using all the time

[fallen osprey]

When should I be using it anyway?

Like about what rocks?

[spare cloud]

When the rock sems worth it 🤷 Quant/Tier1 ores, with a lot of bad stuff but enough good to make it worth it

[fallen osprey]

Got it. So when the good stuff is rare.

[spare cloud]

Mostly, when the good stuff is coming with a lot of bad stuff

[fallen osprey]

Last question I got, so when I claimed my refinery orders I put it into the station storage instead of a ship... and it gave me like all 4SCU boxes...

Is there anyway to get like 32SCU boxes or sometime bigger than 4s😂

That was a pain to load.

(I didn't put the ship down in the hangar storage and didn't want to mess with it)

Or is there a way to buy 32SCU containers?

Just so I can just pack it all in those.

Makes it easier to load and unload my C2

[frail cypress]

8 scu is the largest you can buy. Collect the order to a ship and you'll get it in bigger boxes.

[crude thunder]

I want 16scus or something bigger I can stuff my junk into. I can put my size 1 components into an 8scu container but the size 2s are like "nah man"

[fallen osprey]

Yeah having store all containers of all sizes would be nice

Like 32s would be great for moving mats

[crude thunder]

I feel like that would be mandatory for when we start crafting

I'd like some weapon racks that snap to 4, 8, 16 SCU tiles that can hold multiple ship weapons stacked for moving

[fallen osprey]

I just want to stop having to move a hundred boxes. Like seriously lol

[fallen osprey]

That could be nice.

[fallen osprey]

I just want the Arrastra now🤣

Maybe November?

Dought it. But

[spare cloud]

No chance

Arrastra likely won't come out before the Expanse does. It needs refinery to be implemented.
It may not even come out before 1.0

[orchid void]

Can you stack mining gadgets on rocks?

Sabirs and Optimaxes like?

last time I checked you coulnd't but maybe they changed that

[spare cloud]

Nah

[zenith harness]

Refinery module coming next year with galaxy?

[spare cloud]

No

Good chances the Galaxy will come out with med and cargo modules only

Because Galaxy is a modular ship, they can release it with some of its stuff missing, unlike the Zeus MR or Arrastar that are waiting on BH 2.0 and refinery to be released.

The Expanse will likely be the first ship with refinery.

[fallen osprey]

I'll be honest why would someone put a refinery on a ship with no capability to gather ore?

I mean refinery fees aren't that much.

Maybe in some large org ops, but assuming the galaxy with the refinery doesn't have a ton of cargo space you would probally be better off with a C2 to just haul the ore back. Granted the up front cost would be higher, but your personell cost would be lower.

Which is more important.

The only exception is quant.

Now a refinery on a mining ship kinda like the reclaimer would be pretty nice.

[fallen osprey]

But I will say I am a sucker for the recent RSI ship designs. The Zues series looks so nice. And I think the Arrastra would look quite nice to knowing RSI.

[spare cloud]

Arrastra looks incredible

[coarse cape]

Selling a mobile refining service

Go to miner out in middle of nowhere > grab ore > refine and take to location for them

Or for orgs who don’t want to stop at stations to refine

[fallen osprey]

So how much would they pay for the ore then? Then how much would they make per load? It basically would force the price of ore to go up significantly.

[coarse cape]

all what if questions until it’s released ¯_(ツ)_/¯

It’s like they starfarer. Why have a refuel ship when you can go to a station

Can use the expanse to keep miners out in their little gold mine instead of having to leave it and risk getting pirated

[fallen osprey]

I don't think refueling will ever be a profitable buissness lol

Unless they plan to inflate the econemy. But even then

[lavish temple]

best QD for Mole?

[coarse cape]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fallen osprey]

But would it be worth it to stay out?

[coarse cape]

Starfarer iirc can refine its own fuel

[coarse cape]

If you find a rock field that has more ore than you can carry yes

[fallen osprey]

Then the price of ores would need a sharp increase.

[coarse cape]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fallen osprey]

How much do you think is fair for a single Golem load of ore?

[coarse cape]

Idk I haven’t used the golem

Can’t predict economy changes when the expanse releases

[fallen osprey]

32 SCU of ore. A run can be done in about 20 minutes to go from CRU-L1 to yela and back

Also refining is kinda cheap.

[shell sorrel]

why is it when mining, without exploding any rocks. i always loose modules on the front mining turret on the mole. Do i have to make sure the red zone isnt charged at all when the green completes?

[lofty drift]

hey i got "cargo transfer complete" but its only at 6/4070 scu??

anyone know a fix to this

ramming into the station helped

[mild pumice]

typical Hull C experience

[shell sorrel]

Any clues here?

Modules always being broken off the head whilst mining. Even when not overcharging to a point where the red bar is full

[mild pumice]

Any overcharge causes some damage

Best to let it simmer down and recharge if you've got overcharge, I know it's easier said than done with server lag

[shell sorrel]

So, if I achieve full green charge with a small bit of red charge left over. That will damage my ship?

[desert wyvern]

does anyone actually do these or just the hauling missions

because these seem like really nice $$$ but wanted to know

[glass chasm]

hey erm let me ask something for clarification real quick... Qant ore is volatile in an ore pod even if that ore pod is plucked off the mining ship and stored in a cargo ship for later hauling to a refinery, right? It ONLY loses volatility once brought down a cargo elevator, aye?

[spare cloud]

Correct.

[glass chasm]

Thank you 🙂

[leaden monolith]

Some brave souls do trade commodities with the 'C'. I'm not one of them. I use it for hauling. Too many things can go wrong with it to risk my own money.

[glass chasm]

can sing a song of that. I've tried commodity trading for some time but I've lost so many millions that way, lost probably 10x what I earned, so I am done for good with that until further notice.

[leaden monolith]

I can understand. I've been taking it slow with commodity trading and just using my Raft. It's not huge profits but it's steady and when the game decides to blow up my ship or steal my cargo it isn't a huge loss either.

[next swan]

Anyone got tips for first mining advice?

[ornate halo]

The front turret is closer to the rock, so even if the other turrets are far enough, it can still take damage.

[spare cloud]

As long as the red bar isn't completely empty, if there's a bit of red, it's overcharged and will do damage.
Full red bar is just ultra violent instant ship killer explosion

You need to practice to have no red at all

[ornate halo]

It will take damage no matter what. Overcharge just does more.

Mole hotbox geometry is pretty weird in front

Unless you're at max range, some part will be close enough to take damage

[spare cloud]

You don't take damage from perfect cracks if you're in the optimal range.

[mild pumice]

I had a lol moment Roc mining, I obliterated a node and it actually damaged my zeus that was parked like 200m away lol

[glass chasm]

And allow me to throw in a tip: If you overcharge a little (happens easily with a node with a tiny optimal window), you can use your ship's backwards speed as joker. You can crack the node even if slightly overcharged and simply speed backwards, out of the blast range. That is, as long as you have enough heat momentum left in the optimal window to "finish" the cracking without more laser power. It's a matter of the right timing. Note though, that the higher you overcharge, the higher the chance some broken off pieces or the entire node will explode and be lost!

[spare cloud]

If you're not in a solo MOLE

[glass chasm]

If you are, I recommend the lord's prayer.

Or fast legs. 😄

[ornate halo]

Meh- Its only a repair bill.... Or just ramming a station at Max speed

[eternal cloak]

would I need some people on the side turrets to crack this? what gadget(s) would you use?

[quiet atlas]

😎

[fallen osprey]

I usually do cargo to make $$ but its tedious as hell

You can make 500k/hrs about

So that's pretty good.

[fallen osprey]

In the fk

How did you do this

That haul is huge

[quiet atlas]

cellin 2 rocks in one cluster both 60k 150scu 46 and 48scu quant

[glass chasm]

fuc you! 😄

...but congrats! growls ^^

[mossy arch]

Currently working towards a C2 so I can bedlog and mine for multiple sessions with my Golem, probably in Pyro. Any location suggestions? My plan is get ore then bring it back to Stanton for refining (better bonuses, lower risk). Something out in space seems better suited for that.

[ornate halo]

Terminus is really light, rich rocks. Id go there. Bring a Nobikov tho, it's cold

[shell sorrel]

best place for quant mining?

[quiet atlas]

Cellim

[spring prism]

Usually find rocks close to each-other, or mark them with an object they have a waymark for. People would use 1/8 SCU Delivery boxes for this.

Do not expect quantanium in large quantities. They got lucky

Quantanium spawning was changed back in 3.19 or so, and is averaged between all other ores now. So no one single type of rock will give more than another.

[spring prism]

Just don't expect to mine QUA with that, since you have to worry about it blowing up

[fallen osprey]

So I see. Regardless, what's the best way to go about making money with the multicrew mole?

I assume I should be mining asteroid fields. But it id quite difficult to figure out what rocks are what... should I have a friend run a prospector and just search while me and the other do mole things such as breaking.

[midnight veldt]

I've been doing Hauling contracts on a rented Taurus and have about 9m atm, do I get a RAFT as a stepping stone while I save up for a C2 Starlifter (and later Hull-C), or do I get a Starlancer MAX for some more space? Currently at Member rank with Covalex

[spice shell]

A raft isn't going to give you much more than what the Taurus is able to do anyway. You're likely not to the stage of needing to carry more than 2 crates of 32 SCU. It's a great ship, but I'm not sure that makes sense yet.

I would keep running the Taurus, as it's faster than the SL MAX overall and you're in that stage of needing to do split deliveries for rep. Keep saving then grab the C2.

If you're just renting, you can give the MAX a try, right?

[fallen osprey]

Anyone know when 4.2 Drops officially?

I wanna make I dont have any cargo left.

[spice shell]

Know? No one does. Speculation would be before Alien week.

[short tapir]

man those members cargo missions just dosnt seem like its worth the effort, its very little more money and those i have seen is like 3 stops

[spice shell]

You basically just grind past it with a buddy who is also member rank. You can essentially split the job. It's less about the cash flow and more about getting past the rank.

[spring prism]

Since the great averaging, it's basically "Get everything. Mark down any large quantanium, get it last."

[short tapir]

how does the "coop" works ? if he sends down the elevator wont that mess up my job?

[spice shell]

It might if you're sharing the mission. It very well could if you didn't. I've had mixed successes, but haven't considered these experiences in a way to really share the nuances that happen.

My duo and I kinda worked it out and auto pilot it.

[short tapir]

yeah i could imagine. i wish it wasnt such a grind, im so happy i have a taurus i couldnt imagine the pain loading up a hercules with 100 scu of crates times 4 just to get 50k per misisons

[spice shell]

The Taurus is just so hard to beat. Honestly, the only reason I no longer own one is because my buddy owns it. That and I want to force myself to try new things

[short tapir]

I dont like the loading and unloading of the taurus but other than that its gold (right now im renting a Raft to try out)

I might upgrade the taurus next time i can get the starlancer max

Hmm Magnus Gateway is inside of stanton right? (its not the other one at pyro? )

[spice shell]

Magnus is in Stanton IIRC

[short tapir]

thank you i prefere not to go to pyro

[quasi sandal]

is there any ship in game yet that can fit a mole?

[fallen osprey]

Ill be honest the Taurus is very strong. But I hate that things egress. (Evelators) that and manned turrents are kinds dumb.

[fallen osprey]

If any ship it would be the Idris

[past fractal]

No, it's far too big to fit in an idris...

The industrial capitals aren't out yet

Soon™️

[spice shell]

Valid complaints. It doesn't bother me, and so the Taurus is basically the king, but I'm open to other options and chose to try and explore them.

[lavish marsh]

is it just me or is hadanite imposible to find?

[fallen osprey]

I still admit the Taurus is top tier.

Easily one of the best multirole ships In game.

I will say tho the Zues CL comes close to topping it. If only its cargo grid was 1 higher and 1 wider.

[short tapir]

what size ships can the vulture break?

[spare cloud]

Up to size 4

[short tapir]

thanks

[small hull]

Is the hullc broken- broken or is it worth grinding for

[leaden monolith]

It seems everyone's mileage on that varies. Mine is that it is broken sometimes and others it works just like the brochure said it would.

[vivid citrus]

i rented a raft but hauling from port tressler to new babbage is only making 80-90k per run

im junior rank so i guess im confused as to where all of the money is at

consider i also made 300k my very first run because i was able to stack like 6 or 7 contracts but that oppurtunity seems to have gone away

[mild pumice]

Better missions come at member/experienced rank

You get through jnr pretty fast tbh

I recommend doing to runs between Everus or Tressler and their local distribution centers

For member rank there's 6 you can stack going to 3 locations, needs some logistics management but should take around 45mins, 90k x 3 and 99k x 3

From PT to 2x DC and NB

[junior fern]

I do Bajini to Area 18, stacking 7 rookie contracts and a junior contract going down to Area 18, and 1 or 2 junior contracts up to Bajini

[mild pumice]

I can't stand those all 1scu boxes

I tend to do the Hurston senior from EH to HUR1,2,4 for 320k, takes me around 40 mins in my Caterpillar. I occasionally do a Hull C 700k but they rarely complete for the full rewards

I keep trying to rank up Pyro but nearly all the missions are bugged or just ridiculous like jnr rank 300scu x 8 like 40 boxes and it's 3 loads down the slowest freight elevator

You're on the screen so long it's high risk

Takes an age to go up or down and if you leave the screen it resets and eats the cargo

Plus the locations, I did one jnr mission, 60k, pick up from 2 outposts and delivery to one station, took almost an hour because it was about a 180gm trip and I had to stop to fuel up, store, retrieve, etc. And it only accept half the boxes. Waste of time lol

[junior fern]

ATLS shaves the time needed to load and unload down to a 1/3rd of what it is with the RAFT tractor beam

[small hull]

There should be 6 new 50k missions by the time you get back to tressler

[copper apex]

Are you able to place refined materials in bigger boxes than 1 SCU?

[mild pumice]

the box sizes are set automatically depending on the amount of the scu, and whether the destination is a ship or local inv. for example if the ship only takes up to 4scu boxes and you have 8scu you would get 2x4, if it's going to a bigger ship or local inv you'd get 1x 8scu box

[copper apex]

Ya, im gonna be doing everything in an asgard

So hopefully it takes decent sized boxes

[mild pumice]

yeah it can take 4x 32

plus 1x 32 off grid, plus a bunch more

[inner token]

U can fit 6-7 32x scu boxes in an asgard btw if u stack them right ofc xD

[hazy yacht]

Is there any recommended place to go to for member hauling contracts?

[mossy arch]

Microtech was my go-to, just stacked a bunch of the small planetary missions on a rental RAFT

Or Port Tressler really, that's where all the missions there start

[hazy yacht]

I'll head over there then, since I'm currently at Baijini

[copper apex]

So long as I have SCU stored in a station It won't disappear with the update correct?

[orchid void]

I’ve been told SCU boxes of commodities will still disappear

No clue though

[short tapir]

Why did the devs think its a good idea to demands/ no demands?! the game is not ready for that yet. the first server i jumped on to sell my reclaimer material "no demand" -.-

IM SO done with this.... Now my mateiral me and a friend gathered yesterday is marked as stolen?!!!

[mild pumice]

@short tapir everyone is cheesing the cleanup missions in Yela so Orison is the worst place to sell

[short tapir]

still i cant even sell despite its in demand its marked as "stolen"

[mild pumice]

Not sure about the stolen, seems like a bug but otherwise it's better to sell at other locations

[short tapir]

yeah some ppl in chat says its because i did it with someone... and is no longer in a group, why would i be in a group? its MY resources 😦 i guess i can say goodbye to those few millions! Im SO fed up with CIG

[mild pumice]

should be able to sell it at hex but gonna be at a low rate

[short tapir]

yeah and that kinda beats the purpose. Also i dont have a ship big enough for 832 scu lol

anyone can tell me the price for selling construction material at Orison vs Cru L4/l5 ? :S uexcorp.space gives me a bit of a strange image (or im reading it incorrectly)

[mild pumice]

full RAFT is very satisfying!

[tawdry island]

What the f*ck is that

It looks sick

[mild pumice]

they could have done a row of 1x as well lol

[tawdry island]

What the hell is that ship

[mild pumice]

Argo RAFT. that's 24 boxes

[tawdry island]

When did it get added

I dont remember it

[mild pumice]

ages aga but it got reworked with a bigger grid, you can rent it - 192scu it will carry

[tawdry island]

What is ages ago

[mild pumice]

like 2 yr

[tawdry island]

Because i also havent played in ages

[tawdry island]

Alr ig thats why

I havent played for soon to be 3 years

[mild pumice]

rework was in the latest patch, before was 96scu

[tawdry island]

Im so excited to hopefully get back in and play this year

I hope to god

My cats will be healthy

Because so far ive been stuck on an i9-12900HK and 15-17 fps at 100% cpu usage just aint cutting it for me

And my cats are constantly sick

So the vets are sucking every single penny i have outta me

[mild pumice]

sorry to hear about your cats

my friend had the same issue with the CPU

[tawdry island]

Yeah this game needs a lotta cpu horsepower

And intel just wont cut it

[mild pumice]

I've just bought the CPU off him lol but it's for my wife's PC, she don't play SC 😄

I'm running an old Ryzen 9 5900x, still going strong

[tawdry island]

AMD is almost the only way to play this game

[mild pumice]

NB@4k

[tawdry island]

Hopefully if my cats become healthy again i can buy myself a pc this year

And get back in to the grind after 3 years of being completely offline

[tawdry island]

Whys the glass so yellow

Clean your windshields man

[mild pumice]

full 60 in the hangar 🙂

[short tapir]

about cru l5 it dosnt accept construction material in 16scu size......

[tawdry island]

BTW is there a bigger flyable ship than the 890j now after those 3 years?

[mild pumice]

well that sux, the ATLS can't grab the cargo

guess I'm hand balling 😄

[mild pumice]

yeah Idris just released at fleet week

[tawdry island]

How much have i missed?! The hell is an ATLS

[short tapir]

does anyone know if its all stations that dosnt accept 16scu crates?

[coarse blaze]

Might need to disable the shields. Worked for me at least when I had this Bug with the atls

[mild pumice]

should be off I used 'U' to turn the ship off

didn't take me long to unload all done

[coarse blaze]

Had this with the taurus the other day with the atls and the maxlift

[mild pumice]

depends on the commodity

some stations accept weird sizes, there's almost no uniform to it

[mild pumice]

I think you need to watch some videos!

the ATLS is a mech suit for loading, there's also a mining version and soon a combat version you can craft via Wikelo (look him up!)

[short tapir]

thats not easy i tried cru l5 (the commodity) but despite it saying 1-24 on the uexcorp.space site it didnt 😦

[tawdry island]

Holy shite!

Ive missed a lotta shit

And yet the fps stays unplayable

[mild pumice]

there have been some performance improvements, might be worth try again and also ask in #helpdesk when you do as the helpers might be able to suggest settings that could improve things for you.

[tawdry island]

Id say the opposite of improvements

Ive dropped by 2 frames since 3 years ago

I also know exactly whats the issue

The fact that i have an intel cpu

So no need

I just need better hardware

[coarse ember]

[shrewd hinge]

Finally got time this weekend to try the Hull C again and had 0 issues. Not sure if it's so many have left to go play Dune and the servers are running smoother or what's different from last weekend, but I did a bunch of runs with no issues.