industrial-professions

[lavish oak]

Are any of the weapons worth salvaging on an abandonned Idris?
Can you salvage the big front weapon?

[mild pumice]

You need to store the ship or the ore pods to refine, just note that the pods are consumed when you refine if they're removed. (Repair replaces them) you can't change the loadout on rented ships

It's possible to change components manually with a tractor beam but not really efficient

[flat tundra]

if I wanna buy a mining ship, which ship should I buy, I was saving for corsair but I do kinda like mining and I can always rent a taurus (I have 5.3 million right now)

[mild pumice]

for solo the prospector or for a crew the MOLE. You can solo a MOLE, a lot of people do and go with different loadouts on the lasers for different type of rocks.

[flat tundra]

oh i can rent the mole

can I make the prospector really good with upgrades?

[mild pumice]

wait, my consumed ore pods have been returned now I've logged back in - cool!

[mild pumice]

I'm not really that much or an expert sorry, I'm using a golem just for basic stuffs

hopefully one of our Gurus will be able to help more

I've been flying round with it in the Asgard lol

[copper apex]

Where is the best place to do prospector mining this patch?

[mild pumice]

moons usually because smaller rocks

[halcyon plaza]

Any Prospectors who want to join Idris space mining in Pyro? Also need a pitstopper to swap bags.

[leaden bane]

guys a question here, please answer

do i need some special mining laser head for ROC to mine a hadanite?

[mild pumice]

hadanite is a hand mineable now

the geo can do it tho

[leaden bane]

you seriuos??

[mild pumice]

100% serious - check patch notes from 4.1.0

gimme a sec, that's the wrong patch I think

yeah it was 4.1, you can read about it here under 'features' https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/Patch-Notes/20522-Star-Citizen-Alpha-41#9da78b1b

there's new ROC mineables and hadanite was moved to hand mining

[leaden bane]

okay, thanks mate ❤️

[mild pumice]

the best one for ROC mining (outside of align and mine) is Feynmaline and it's really common on Pyro moons

391k/scu (that's about 3 clusters)

[leaden bane]

yeah yeah i know, thanks a lot for the info 🙂

[mild pumice]

but you have to sell them in stanton

cool cool, have fun

[leaden bane]

thanks 🙂

[warm totem]

I mined some hadonite with the ROC in stanton...in 4.1 not sure if it was moved already then or not

[warm totem]

with teh ability to carry extra bags it makes mining sessions last much longer!

[mild pumice]

Yeah you can go for a nice expedition now, it's quite nice.

I did go out again this week but mineables were broken again so I came back to Stanton lol

[worthy herald]

Havent done hauling in a very long time what website you guys using for best prices buy/sell?

[copper apex]

What are the going rates for gold and taranite?

[coarse ember]

Usually uexcorp or sc-trade-tools

[prisma dagger]

anyone know if they are planning to put the ATLS style tractor beam on ships too?

it would make hauling in my connie taurus so ez

[mild pumice]

CIG don't like to make things easy lol.

[analog grotto]

Asgard + Golem and 4 spare pods was a fun experiment

16 scu of taranite, 10 scu of gold and 12 scu of quant altogether

Found the quant on the last batch of pods. Left the golem behind rather than try and restack the pods to fit everything back in 😂

[mossy scroll]

Found a ton of that in Stanton on planet Aberdeen today, made about half a million in an hour

[short tapir]

hey my friend bought a golem and he have had issueus taking off two days in a row now after mining a bit (its like its stuck to a point in space and wont move)

anyone have experienced this and know how to fix it?

[alpine pulsar]

need a permanent mining group

[olive gull]

• a common practice among pilots when landing is to turn off the engines, check them are on
• sometimes ships glitches, reclaiming the ship solves most of those problems

[lean fable]

Are there hull-c missions in pyro?

[runic sun]

@mild pumice when u handmine do u go for feymaline only?

[flat tundra]

I just collected my work orders and selected the station as location, but I dont see it in the inventory manager do I need to be in the hangar

[mild pumice]

That ones a Roc mineable, but yeah that's the only one I go for because the other two don't pay much

[short tapir]

he wasnt a new pilot or anything he was stuck like this xD its every time he is mining in the golem

[mild pumice]

can't say I've encountered that but looks frustrating AF lol

[short tapir]

It is xD almost as frustrating as getting killed inside my prospector without it damaging my ship 😒 just instant cap

had that happen twice

when i crack the rock

[short tapir]

are there certain resources who cant be refined from some refineries? i noticed on uexcorp.space it has a tab under prices called refineries and then a number

[mild pumice]

I think some refinery have a boost for certain materials, AFAIK you can refine anything you mine at any refinery

[short tapir]

oh okay hank you

Thanks*

[median vault]

Anyone scraped and munched an idris yet?

Curious how much rmc/con mat she gives approx

[short tapir]

That is the most demoralizing thing about mining if you ask me 😮 looking forever for some rocks just for this bug to happen

[wise halo]

has CIG ever provided more details on how the XXS pad on the front of the liberator will work if you land something on it that overhangs a bit? Like, if the landing gear are all properly on the pad, and it isn't hitting into anything or hanging off the ship, it should theoretically work even by 1.0 standards right? at least from what we know

wondering if I'll be able to fit a prospector there or if I should keep my Golem

[sly robin]

I can't sell the medical supplies I don't understand why, I tried at HUR L4 and ARC-L4

[leaden monolith]

I think the issue is that those stations don't have loading/unloading facilities for the Hull C. You're restricted to major space stations (Seraphim etc) and the gateway stations (Terra etc).

[sly robin]

annnnnd the hull c is destroyed because I go through dockin port

[leaden monolith]

big ouch

[red sierra]

does surface mining in stanton work as good as pyro now?

[clear flare]

Nice

[cerulean lichen]

How much does carinate sell for?

[mild pumice]

anyone know why I'm 'buffering' lol

I haven't tried to collect it yet

sorted, worked on the other screen 🙂

[past fractal]

Just throwing this out there in case someone sees it and says, "Actually... yeah"

Hoping one day we can get a slider on mining orders, or some sort of physicallized cargo (not boxes, the stuff inside the boxes) so we can round orders down to the next full SCU of something, or set aside that 0.073 SCU of something to put in a box with other stuff later...

[analog grotto]

Doesn't refining round up to the nearest whole amount?

[spare cloud]

It does

If you have 910 cSCU (9.1 SCU) to collect, you'll get 10 SCUs

[past fractal]

ahhh, I never knew that

[plush sandal]

Did they fix the fortunes ejectors so they actually work now?

[whole marsh]

Hello, I just purchased the Golem, but I wasn't able to enable Quantum drive, does it not come with one?

[hoary hinge]

I recall hearing that the Raft had some issues holding ore pods, has that been remedied?

[small prism]

That was a bug I've been dealing with since 4.1.1 didn't seem to mess up collecting for me. Just covered up stuff behind it

[small prism]

Friend up mine loaded up pods on his and didn't seem to have any issues

[split silo]

What is the best approach to upgrading the RAFT's components? I'm looking to improve speed and shields. I don't care about weapons or stealth since the RAFT isn't built for fight. I would however, like to be able to run if a fight finds me.

[hoary hinge]

Mad, thanks bro

[small prism]

Just remember when swapping. The pods are loaded upside down on the raft lol

Wouldn't connect to the prospecter/mole until he flipped them

[hoary hinge]

Ohh that makes sense, they only snap to grid "upright" but the raft's grid is inverted

Just Park the raft upside down next to the prospector while swapping bags

[small prism]

Yeah exactly

[leaden monolith]

you really can't increas the speed of the Raft. The only upgrade I make is the QD. I upgrade to the Hemera. It's fast, efficient (increases total jump distance) and has a fast cool down compared to other comparable drives.

[tacit matrix]

do some places not take 8 scu tried to sell argon at pyro gateway bc i accidentally bough 124 8 scu crates in stanton gateway

[spare cloud]

You need flight blades to improve speed. RAFT doesn't have any so far.

You should care about stealth cause it may be what avoids you a good amount of encounters.
Ask in #flight-combat-racing , they know all the best components for either the toughest RAFT or the stealthiest, or mix of both.

[hidden sky]

So I just got the reclaimer back. I only used it a bit. But it kind of dawned on me I got it kind of late. Im curious.. What is it actually supposed to get in the future? Like I know its a ways out for sure but what is it supposed to get?

[dull flax]

why does the golem doesnt show the mining progress sometimes any workarounds?

[short tapir]

I feel like there is a design oversight with the taurus :S

how the hell am i suppose to get it out

[spare cloud]

You don't

There is no way to get it out

[short tapir]

lol definatly a design oversight then

[spare cloud]

The Connie was designed when only 1 SCU containers existed and we had auto (un)loading without even needing to store the ship. Haulers didn't even need tractor beams.

[short tapir]

yeah i guess i had totaly forgot that there was a cargo room back there. But i guess its gonna get an overhaul at somepoint

thanks

[rich berry]

I love the taurus, but that "cargo" space does need a touch up.

[chrome verge]

A redesign?

[hidden sky]

Yeah I've heard them say they would have to redesign parts of it.

[rich berry]

they were planing for it to literally eat ships to salvage

but as the system was changed, it makes no sense for almost half of the ship being empty lol

[long frost]

currently doing hauling in pyro for red wind on junior. anyone here with member or experienced level? does it pay out later?

[pliant lantern]

The reclaimer will have a rework entirely because the interior make no sense especially the grinder

[pastel basin]

Anyone with any experience mining Quantainium?

Does it function correctly? I heard surface mining was very buggy.

What's the yield per hour roughly?

Any planets to aim for? (I heard Lyria is a good one)

[short tapir]

Does anyone know if there is a workaround for the rocks not turning so i can mine it?

its like all rocks i have seeen so fare

[pastel basin]

From what I've been reading it sounds like surface mining is pretty busted right now

[short tapir]

damn i played last night and it was okay 😦

[pastel basin]

It sounds like it works better on low pop servers but then gets worse on higher pop

[short tapir]

i guess its just not always an option to pick low pop 😦

[orchid sun]

noob here, don't you have to switch to mining mode to scan a rock?

[short tapir]

I tried that as well but it wouldnt turn thats why i turned on scanning to try and force it

[orchid sun]

just got back from taking a break since 3.27, kinda wild that mining is still broken in the exact same way 😐

[short tapir]

bah it didnt work logging out in my bed as well 😦 edit tried to logout in bed to switch server

[pastel basin]

on the bright side, if you do manage to get it to work quantanium will sell for a LOT to other players since its so tough to farm it right now, and lots of people want it to build the polaris

[elfin rune]

Sometimes shooting it works

Its a server issue

[oblique summit]

Are we still able to sell drugs at scrap yards in Stanton? Haven't played in a couple of patches

[spare cloud]

Yeah, up to 24SCU containers

[oblique summit]

How so? They won't buy more than 24scu? Or can you do multiple sales of 24scu?

[spare cloud]

The freight elevator can't take 32 SCU containers

[orchid sun]

About that, i know that you usually should just mine and take quant as a bonus, but with so much player demand for quant, i wonder how profitable group mining specifically for quant could be, mabye with a small ship scouting and taking the bags back and forth so the mole can stay out in the field

[frail cypress]

Switch to mining mode and wait. Can take minutes for the rocks to load, depending on server performance.

[short tapir]

i will try that next time

thanks

[chrome verge]

selling quant to players can pay well, but quant is an avg 5% spawn rate

if mining only quant, your uec/hr drops since you spend more time looking than bringing in taranite

[limber turtle]

Is it worth going Prospector over Golem?

[hollow pewter]

Is it possible to use the Vulture to salvage ships that have been downed on planet surfaces?

[chrome verge]

yes

[hollow pewter]

Know of any good places to find ships of players that were shot down during mercenary missions by automatic turrets?

I remember doing a bounty hunt at one of these shubin facilities and there were about a dozen ships lying arround

Would be a lot better than having to scavenge for debris on asteroid belts

[chrome verge]

I can't say for sure since wrecks often despawn within 30 min, but you'll often find downed ships when you pick up bounties or do the new patrols

abandoned ships near bunkers too

[hollow pewter]

Aww man, i didnt know they despawned so quickly. Either way I def want to give that a try… if I dont get shot down myself for being too close lol

Thanks

[chrome verge]

@hollow pewter what you can do is tag along behind a group doing bounties or patrols, lots of wrecks that way

[hollow pewter]

Ohh great tip

Maybe accept a bounty, go there and abandon the mission. See who else has tried and gotten taken down

[chrome verge]

if the combat team goes soft dead, you could also use the vulture to bring them back by printing repair tools and canisters

[hollow pewter]

Dude you are a trove of knowledge. I didnt even know the Vulture could print that kind of thing. I thought it made only boxes.

[novel ore]

I am just coming back after years, once I have refined ore, how do I load it onto a cargo ship? The crates say they are too heavy to carry

[wise halo]

buy a tractor beam, either the MaxLift for 19k from a cargo shop, or the TuHold attachment for your multitool

[novel ore]

Thank you!

[open plaza]

Can we get the golem ingame?

or will that probably come with 4.2

[tacit matrix]

Is the mluv tractor better then the mule or shkuld i upgrade the tractor to the mule or melt tractor for atls

[spare cloud]

Nope

[open plaza]

damn

[spare cloud]

And probably nope too

[spare cloud]

ATLS or handheld tractors.

[rancid mason]

Whats the difference between the ROC and the ROC-DS?

[spare cloud]

ROC-DS splits driving and mining between two seats.
Same mining power, triple the storage and one of the two seats is sealed so no weather issues.

It's also more stable and easier to drive.

[tacit matrix]

Bru bwomp

[hollow pewter]

Where can I buy an ATLS GEO in-game for Auec?

[sullen sentinel]

It's not available for auec yet afaik

[hollow pewter]

Is it at least rentable?

[sullen sentinel]

No, i don't believe so

[hollow pewter]

Shit! Ok thanks

Are there other mining vehicles that would fit in a Vulture? The ROC maybe? Anybody tried this yet?

I want to be able to Salvage/Mine

[sullen sentinel]

Im not sure the vultures cargo bay is tall enough for the ROC, ive never tried though. Plenty of youtube content creators like to try stuffing all kinds of things in their ships, might find a video with a definitive answer there

[orchid sun]

if i see a stone in the propsector that i can scoop up striaght away, does that mean someone was here or is it just random?

[rose forge]

how do I sell from ore pods?

[olive gull]

you can either place them down your hangar elevator or leave them on the ship and store the ship down
then go to the Admin office, select the correct location for the ores and sell them

[rose forge]

what about for refinery orders?

[spare cloud]

That, but refinery terminal

[rose forge]

can you reuse ore pods once the refinery order has been put in?

[chrome verge]

Random

[spare cloud]

Afaik, the refinery eats the bags if you refine from the local inventory

You keep bags if you refine from the ship

[chrome verge]

The bags are returned currently @rose forge

[rose forge]

84hrs for dynx solve is criminal

[chrome verge]

Yeah, I put 4 bags in a time and call it a day. I'll put the other 4 in the next session, and sort things out for transport

[tired gate]

Random but man they gotta add box missions back 😩

[olive gull]

indeed

[spare cloud]

They did, kinda

[olive gull]

well on Pyro stations there is a mission to carry a box from a point to another,
but they nerfed it on 4.1.1 and now is not worth doing it

[spare cloud]

That

[olive gull]

sadly there is no point doig it anymore

[icy island]

are there any suits avalable in game anymore that are good for walking around on Aberdeen? or did they remove all of them? i thought the aril suit was supposed to be good here but its not.

[spare cloud]

It's the Pembroke suit you want

Or any heavy armor really, they give more than enough time to not be in danger

[icy island]

really? thats it? didnt they remove that from being able to be purchesed in game? what happened to the aril being able to handle it?

[spare cloud]

I think you dreamed the Aril being capable of this

[icy island]

no.. ive been walking around on aberdeen with only an aril suit for the last 2.5y with no issues until now.

for hours. outside of a ship or anything else.

[spare cloud]

Aril never had any special temp protection.
The most heat protected armor that's not the Pembroke or Zeus gave a bit over 1h of time outside. Morozov heavy armor.

[icy island]

how on earth did i never die or have any issues then i wonder cause i hate heavy suits and never wear them.

im now upset about how the npc's can walk around just fine with plain clothes.

[spare cloud]

Everytime you walk back into your ship you go back to normal temps. Same with every enclosed vehicle.

Also I experienced a few times some kind of god mode where I was invincible to temps and didn't need to drink/eat ever.

Do you remember having to drink/eat with your Aril armor when in hit environment ?

[icy island]

this i am aware i use that so i can stay out longer. but if i dont do that i should at least have a notification that hey its hot here. lol. i have always had to eat and drink yes. often a bit sooner and more often than i normaly would on other planets.

[turbid swallow]

hey is lyria any good for roc mining?

[ivory mango]

Anyone know of a workaround for mining modules not firing?

[flat tundra]

Im trying out salvaging and is this worth?

[frail cypress]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1k65gum/been_working_on_a_salvage_profit_sheet_for_a_bit/

[flat tundra]

can I only sell RMC on Orison in stanton?

[naive vine]

https://uexcorp.space

Use this

Will show u where u can sell and for how much

[flat tundra]

I found feynmaline, but when I mine it it goes into these little blue crystals and the description says "if you mine feynmaline it explosively degrades into janalite" or something like that but the name of the crystals is still feynmaline

[mild pumice]

I've never noticed that before! I've always just sold it lol.

[pliant lantern]

I don't know where you have seen this info but it's probably fake they are 2 distinct ores

[flat tundra]

it says in the description xD

[pliant lantern]

Strange maybe an error from cig because janalite is very rare

[warm totem]

It's not uncommon to find pieces you can immediately extract. If you find something that has been broken then that would indicate that someone else broke it and could only pick up a portion because they were full and left the rest.

[warm totem]

From my experience when this happens I abandon the vehicle and claim it, I actually started carrying two ROCs for this reason as they can get damaged and no longer work as expected. I have to say this hasn't happened to me yet since 4.1 and I have filled at least 6 bags without issue. The removable ore bags for the ROC was a welcomed addition! If you were referring to the Mole or the newer mining vehicles, I think the same logic would apply.

[orchid sun]

is there a way to differentiate between randomly directly extractable and broken but left over?

is it safe to pick up refinery orders into station inventory yet or is it still broken? Couldn't find a clear answer on reddit or via discord search

[frail cypress]

Hows mining in pyro? Is there enough profit to justify all the hassle?

[obsidian fern]

whats a good refining process to use? first time mining in a long time and just really unsure

[frail cypress]

Dynx or Ferron for max yield

[obsidian fern]

any reason for one over the other? or just prioritze high yield?

[frail cypress]

Both have same yield, Dynx is the slowest and cheapest.

[obsidian fern]

heard, thanks

[warm totem]

usually, if it was broken and left bhind the rocks will look more like when you yourself break them, kinda stacked together and some parts may still need to be broken again - but other than that no. In regards to picking up refinery orders I have not had a single issue this patch.

[orchid sun]

thank you, much appreciated

[warm totem]

I always do the cheapest cost and max yield, check both of the recommended ones but certainly look through them and get a quote to see what you prefer, sometimes the shorter time isnt that big of a hit but again for me I don't mind waiting as I just keep stacking them!

If your loaded up on Taranite for example you might want to run to ArcL4 to refine the load, if its Quantanium, you might prefer ArcL2 for the bonus - to me it doesnt seem to be that much of a difference in terms of travel time and getting back out there to get more!

[tepid dirge]

Where can you do Asteroid mining in Pyro? I don't like planet mining...

[spare cloud]

In any mining claim, Lagrange point, asteroid belt

[desert wyvern]

best thing to do with zeus cl?

like types of cargo hauling etc

i read this, but im unfamiliar with the new update/missions, can someone elaborate?

[mild pumice]

The Zeus CL is also great for carrying a Roc for surface mining, being an industrial ship it has a better scanning range for surface mineables.

[desert wyvern]

oh right i didn't think of that

[obsidian fern]

im trying to figure out what i should buy for a mole for mining? anyone got the scoop on a decent loadout? are active modules working right now? i heard there were some bugs with activation

[tired gate]

does ROC mining work in stanton now?

[rich berry]

probably, and especially when the free fly event finishes

when does it end? i do want to go back to the verse 😛

[analog grotto]

Free Fly ends today.

ILW is up until 20:00 UTC, so I think theres only a few hours left

[median vault]

Anyome scraped and fractured an Idris yet? If so what was yield? Inquiring minds wanna kno

[sonic fiber]

Gotta say I like the golem. Good job drake!

It's simple, fun to fly, gets the job done. Not a lot of mining power but it's a starter

[tired gate]

Do all the ships get pulled from the store after ILW ends? This is my first Invictus

[median vault]

They keep a small amount available that rotates periodically

[tired gate]

Thank you

[rich berry]

Tomorrow back to the grind then 🙂

The inventory delay was anoying. Looking for group to do hathor mining thing. I havent had the chance to try it out. Especially because i got the golem.

[mild pumice]

yeah inventory hasn't been great lol

I've been keeping displayinfo 1 up now and some moves taking up to 1min to complete!

[desert wyvern]

is it worth getting a hull c for this or just save for reclaimer and do that (salvage/munching)

i've heard more people having more success with the hull c and am kind of interested in trying it out

[analog grotto]

My knowledge is entirely based on several members of my Org that have Hull Cs, but the experience in 4.1.1 is still very hit and miss with auto-load/unload still being very inconsistent. When it works, its a great money maker according to my org mates, but the key caveat is the "When" part.

If you own a Hull C pledge or have the aUEC to burn on one in-game, then theres no harm in trying it out and seeing how much success you have. It gives you another way to access a game loop and allows you to help contribute to identifying bugs/issues that exist. Given that this is an Alpha, there is not much of a point to amassing aUEC outside of using it to access new/different game loops.

[meager gorge]

does the geo equip mining modules

[coarse ember]

nah, it's really only meant for roc/hand mineables and theres no modules sized for either i'm pretty sure

[nova talon]

is there any reason to change the weapons on the C2?
https://www.erkul.games/loadout/kHLU2XpQ
i think this is good, or would there be better.

[olive gull]

C2 used to be able to do HRTs, but dont think that's the case anymore, your build seems good 👍

[narrow kettle]

is there any known workaround for non-working cargo grids?

[nova talon]

ok thx

[narrow kettle]

it is, but not really "easy". I'd rather take a M2

[olive gull]

• try jumping to a different server.
• try re-claiming your ship.

[narrow kettle]

on the other hand, asgard has no issues with VHRTs, didnt do ERTs yet

[narrow kettle]

hmm, weird. 1 SCU and 2 SCU seems to work most of the time, anything bigger doesnt work at all for me

[nova talon]

is C2 pyro hauling more profitable than stanton?

[mild pumice]

@nova talon missions or trading?

[nova talon]

missions

[mild pumice]

Nah, the Pyro missions are unfinished

The junior ones never end and are mostly bugged

[nova talon]

ok thx

[mild pumice]

The member ones don't work

The larger junior ones pay 132k to deliver up to 320scu in 8scu boxes, it's way too much for the small freight elevators at the outposts

[olive gull]

the other day i was delivenring a cargo mission at some random post
i wanted to explore the building a bit and just stepping on a corner...
i felt down to the oblivion... to the void,
had to log out to menus, lost my ship, lost the mission...

this was at Pyro.

[mild pumice]

Yeah there's quite a few areas of terrain you can fall through in the pyro outposts

They're all rastar locations I believe and the system that deforms the terrain is probably the issue

Having a respawn on your ship is really handy in these situations lol

[warm totem]

You should've been able to fly out to your dead body and at least got your ship, the mission should still be active - you do lose the backpack stuff as it sunder the surface and unobtainable.

[sonic fiber]

Well at least we have refine to station now. Next up i hope they let you sell trash before refine

And maybe give minerals a purpose

Fix supply and demand, have mineral buyers produce things for shippers, have product buyers make things to sell players like ammo, fuel etc

[narrow needle]

How much is 100 janalite worth?

[spare cloud]

See on uexcorp.space

[celest vault]

is there anyway to break this up into more chunks?

[sharp swift]

No, every ship gets 1 break

[celest vault]

damn what a waste, ty

[fathom ledge]

any idea why i cant adjust my hand mining beam's power?

[fluid sentinel]

The msr a decent cargo hauler?

[chrome verge]

hold alt when you scroll wheel to adjust power on hand mining laser and GEO low power mode laser

[fossil glen]

For the Wikelo Quartz SMG, does it have to be the base version of the gun? Or can it be any version?

[warm totem]

you'll need 1000 to make an SCU of it, if that helps you

[fathom ledge]

where's the best place to dink around in a GEO?

[tepid dirge]

It might be against the rules to do this but I wanted to share. We had a triple Golem operation yesterday, with bag reloads from a mobile Polaris base. A dream come true in this game.

[grave scarab]

hey, i was wondering how bad pyro is for cargo hauling.Any hints?

[tepid dirge]

Every time I do it I run into the issue that both the Headhunters and the CFP are hostile to me (despite having high rep with both), and so everywhere I go to deliver a haul, turrets shoot at me -.-

[deep bison]

It's great if you don't die!

[lament wigeon]

Is there any fix for a persistant "Unclaimed Cargo Awaiting Transfer" message? I did one mission in Pyro days ago and the message popped up, and wont go away.

[fallen osprey]

I have been wanting to do an op like this for awhile lol. I actually got a C2 to use as my mobile Golem hangar

[fallen osprey]

So what do you things better? Triple Golem or Mole?

[tepid dirge]

3 people in a Mole is technically better since we found rocks that even with the 3 of us in Golems we couldn't crack open (also they were rented Golems, impossible to mod).

[fallen osprey]

Dang, what rocks did yall have trouble breaking?

Like do you remember the size?

[odd rampart]

what's best way to use ROC?

like unloading mining and so on

[quartz forge]

Been doing the same, can’t wait for ironclad since it’ll be even nicer for it

[elfin rune]

Where can i sell CM? NB its full

[novel ore]

Is there a recommended component upgrade path for the Prospector for mining more valuable rocks?

[coarse ember]

you can sell it at the admin on any planet so you could go to orison on crusader lorville on hurston or a18 on arccorp since new babbage is full

personally i prefer a18, 1 short tram ride from spaceport to retail and just keep wandering towards north io tower in the middle of retail, iirc look at north io tower (tdd) go left into the building then up some stairs and you should find the admin to sell to

[sharp swift]

You can wait 15~ min or so and the stock should refresh

[tepid dirge]

A 20000 110% instability monster.

[elfin rune]

Same price?

[coarse ember]

seems to be ever so slightly lower but it's a few days old so who knows

[wise halo]

is the Golem technically able to crack larger rocks than the prospector thanks to its bespoke laser?

[left ore]

It's not an especially powerful laser, but you can strengthen it with a mod.

[spare cloud]

It's way worse than a Helix.
Same raw power, terrible stat modifiers

[left ore]

I think it's great as a cheap trainer, casual miner, or useful in a situation where you need a very small mining ship (e.g. hangar mining fleet), but for "aggressive" mining it can't compete with the bigger ships. The static mining head is a significant hindrance.

[spare cloud]

It really is what it is. A Starter.

[left ore]

Maybe a different story if mining was more profitable, or if there was a need for resources outside "sell resources to station Admin". If I wanted a bigger mining ship, I wouldn't "mine with my Golem until I have enough for XXX", I would make money a different way.

[spare cloud]

I think CIG did a good job at positioning the Golem in the layout of mining ships and vehicles

[left ore]

Yes I think it's a good ship too, makes mining accessible without a lot of cost to get into it.

[wise halo]

I definitely plan to apply my CCU to a Prospector at some point but was considering just keeping the Golem so I can be sure it fits on the front pad of the Liberator. I feel like the prospector landing gear will touch down fine on it, but probably needs to be on one of the top pads

[spare cloud]

So for very small things, casual mining, early money making in patch.
If you're just a tiny bit dedicated into mining, then Prospector is the way instead

[left ore]

Did I see somewhere that there are changes to starting refining jobs? I can't seem to find info in the patch notes? Can we bring a Cutlass full of (full) mining pods from a Golem and submit them for refining?

[spare cloud]

Afaik you still can't make refinery orders from non mining ships.
But you can send the ore pods down the freight elevator and refine from the local inventory

[left ore]

ooh, that's perfect! and you can use any ship to bring the pods back, so that's kind of like refinery orders from non-mining ships, just with extra steps

[spare cloud]

Yes, if you want

[novel ore]

At the refinery, I cant collect because it just has a processing screen saying processing your request

any ideas how to fix, relog didnt work

[frail cypress]

Change regions.

[novel ore]

ty

[grave scarab]

can someone help me find the trading terminalon golden rivera?

[sonic fiber]

Open map

Look for warehouse

Iirc

[grave scarab]

i found it now i cant even load 8 8 SCU containers on the elevator

wtffff is thiis

[sage junco]

if your doing the aligmnent ant it takes to long will the aligments reset?=

we jsut did them and they reset after we gave it the batteries?

so is there a timer on how long it has to take

?

[wispy yarrow]

yo anyone want to join me and my boy in salvage we need one more

[obsidian fern]

is planetry mining working right now?

[floral lichen]

is the raft's 192(?) SCU rework live? website and ship rental just say 96 still

[analog grotto]

Yes, it is live.

[floral lichen]

thanks for answering groff!!

[coarse ember]

likely just a missed detail they try but stuff always slips through the cracks

[floral lichen]

hmm. does the support station do anything? I assumed it was for tractor beam

[coarse ember]

no idea, i dont own one nor did i grab one to rent from ilw

[floral lichen]

ah the enter remote turret button is tiny. man i like this ship though

[olive gull]

there is a keybinding for that, un-set by default

[warm totem]

Yes...quite well I might add.

[warm totem]

First off - that outpost is a deathtrap - prepare to fall through the planet if you keep exploring!

[obsidian fern]

all types?. wanna go out with my mole and a few friends 🙂

[warm totem]

I could be persuaded...I'm on a loot goblin kick right now in search of pristine artifacts - best I have found so far is "worn". I was on a prospecting kick a week or so ago - I binge play this game, lol.

I am more of a fan of the prospector and the ROC - just no real exp running the mole, so the modules and setups are not in my knowledge base. I do like working together on things, so the mole will probably be in my future.

Anyone with any history on finding "pristine" artifacts please let me know where you found them, either PM or post here. I am not even sure if they are in the loot table anymore as I have visited locations in both pyro & stanton without luck - got me plenty of damaged and a few worn tho

[floral lichen]

UEXCorp says I can sell quant at CRU-L5 maintenance. I get to CRU-L5 and it's not in demand

is that just the way things go?

[rose root]

Hi guys, with comodity training, is there any hard and fast rules around which places allow auto loading?

[spare cloud]

"Not in demand" or "Cannot sell" ?
Just wait if it's not in demand.

[spare cloud]

Every place where you can store your ships allow auto (un)loading

[rose root]

Ahh. thanks. the place i picked up the food at only had pads so i guess thats why i had to manually load ty

[quick narwhal]

Is this mission still available ?

[somber jewel]

What ore is the most profitable to mine with a roc?

[ember python]

how do you auto load?

[elfin rune]

Cant with cargo contracts, CAN with commodity hauling

Unless you have the hull C

The ATLS takes fall damage?

[ember python]

how

[elfin rune]

In the sales terminal theres a square you mark for autoloading

It has a money cost

And loading time

[ember python]

the admin screen?

[spare cloud]

The selling terminal. Admin or TDD.

[elfin rune]

The screen youre using to buy the stuff you want to trade

[spare cloud]

Ship has to be stored

[sick flare]

Folks that are doing hauling contracts in the Hull C: Do you avoid accepting missions to certain locations? I had a bug unloading cargo to Everus Harbor last night, so I am wondering if certain locations are still prone to bugs and should be avoided

[elfin rune]

The ATLS takes fall damage? Or the driver?

[austere canyon]

can the atls geo be bought in game yet?

[spare cloud]

Nope

[spare cloud]

I think not. Not yet at least

[tall karma]

Is the handmining display busted, or am I doing something wrong?

I dont get the left side indicator

[tall karma]

Changing multi-tools fixed it

[honest grove]

Ground/outpost cargo elevators can be bugged, but that was just my experience when the hauling contracts first came out. Not sure if there's been any progress in fixing them.

Sorry - you were specifically asking about the Hull-C --- I don't have any information on that. 😦

[elfin rune]

Happened to me in kresler, follow the sound instead of the bars

When you hear the " filling " sound try to stop adding energy

[leaden monolith]

with the Hull C I tend to haul between Everus and the gateways. So far apart from the usual bugs of not giving you a full load or being very picky about being straight, level and stopped in the box I haven't noticed any one place being worse than others.

I never store the 'C' anywhere where I'm likely to pick up or deliver contracts. It was a tip I read a patch or maybe two ago and it has now just become habit. For example right now when I'm done hauling or dealing with bugs for the day I fly to Hur L1, dock (if it'll let me), fuel and then store.

[faint shard]

So I was in an asteroid field in a Mole and I just randomly exploded. I wasn't moving (If I was, it would have been VERY slowly) and had Full Shields. Has this ever happened to anyone?

I feel like the only viable jobs right now are Salvage and Bounties because everything else is so broken.

[analog grotto]

Did you have any quantanium on board?
Or did you get close to any of the large asteroids that slowly rotate?

[faint shard]

Maybe it was rotating?

It just happened again when I got close to my old ship corpse with nothing around. No Prox warning either.

[analog grotto]

If its specifically one of the scene dressing asteroids (not a mineable) those can sometimes have a hit box significantly larger than what renders. I had a similar thing happen to me in Cutlass. Slowly drifted up to an asteroid and then just exploded while i was still like 100m out

No warning. just dead

[frail cypress]

There used to be invisible asteroids, idk if they still exist.

[faint shard]

That sounds about right. Thanks for the input. I love this game so much, but it doesn't want me to play it.

[faint shard]

Lol F*** that. I hope they are gone.

[faint shard]

It's 200% an Invisible Asteroid. Flew out in a Merlin and exploded with nothing around.

[analog grotto]

That is some shenanigans for sure. Where is it that you are mining?

[frail cypress]

Planet mining is pretty good, haven't tried the new asteroid clusters yet though.

[analog grotto]

I've had some good experience finding quantanium in the new Mining Clusters 4.1.1 added to Stanton. Have found several clusters of 3-5 asteroids scattered throughout as well. RS Signature strength is super helpful for hunting those clusters down.

[past cave]

What's the highest mass you've seen?

[analog grotto]

There was one massive 70k but I think that is because it was largely Gold and other dense low tier ores.

Most are in the 7-18k range with a few 20k+ scattered amongst them

[past cave]

Okay, so planet sized. I was under the impression they are bigger, for crewed miners

[analog grotto]

Need to start recording my mining sessions on regolith

[tired gate]

Popping in here because the main chat is useless. Anyone else experiencing dreadful server performance starting yesterday?

First time in months I quite literally cannot play the game - my game bricks completely within 5 minutes

[warm totem]

sorry to hear that Dan but this channel will probably be just as useless as the discussion here is focused on the industrial professions - that being said you cant engage in one if the game isn't working. I had a similar exp today where I was locked in a shard during a server error. I was doing my usual relic hunting, on a derelict outpost when 3 reclaimers rolled up and took out my ship - all I could do was backspace and head back but the game wouldn't let me due to the server error. Best you can do is wait about an hr, so I did - to my surprise I loaded back in exactly where I was and continued my game. I would head on over to the help channels (maybe in VC as well) and better describe your issue - saying your game bricks is not a great description to help you trouble shoot. Like I said this specialized discussion area isn't really the place for your questions and will probably get removed, and maybe along with my response. Good luck!

[olive gull]

when that happens you just go back to the menus and try a different server

[warm totem]

Lol, guess I could've just said that!

[olive gull]

yes, we NEED CIG to perform Weekly Server maintainances

[spare cloud]

This isn't the place to ask about that. In case you missed it, this is the channel about #industrial-professions .
Maybe try #helpdesk next time if you can't stand #star-citizen

[tired gate]

ty

[fluid sentinel]

Anyone using the asgard as a dedicated hauler? How is it compared to something like the Connie or raft

[sonic fiber]

I tried it. Worked fine. Good capacity, armor firepower

[past cave]

If i have a 200SCU rock with 30% composition of quant. my theoritical yield is just .3 * 200 = 60 right? My actual was closer to 40 SCU with perfect breaks and extracting everything.

[crude thunder]

has anyone had success selling cargo from 8scu containers? I thought I was able to sell at TDD directly from larger containers ... like stuff 8 1SCU RMC into an 8scu container. But it doesn't seem to pick it up

alternatively any better (faster) ways to move and sell a lot of 1scu RMC cargo?

[void quail]

is anyone having issues with the Reclaimer salvage heads not functioning in the PU? Ive had a look through Issue Council and Reddit and cant seem to find any current issues and was wondering if this is an issue just with my ship instance?

[void quail]

I think there is a bug with selling from the Cargo Warehouse at the moment, the TDDs arent registering the cargo. You can sell directly from your ship and it works, give it a go if you havent tried already

[crude thunder]

yeah I have been able to sell directly sometimes, I think there are still issues with the cargo grids in 4.1.1 stuff isn't lineing up properly. But I was able to sell from the ship, the rest I had to pull offthe ship and send it down the elevator and out of the boxes

[void quail]

Yeah there definitely are issues, hope they get this working quickly. They dont seem to be doing hotfixes much this patch...maybe due to invictus?

[crude thunder]

I know it was mentioned multiple times "oh yeah cargo grids on ships are fixed!" then someone would point out only on some servers/shards ... I've yet to see my ship's cargo grid fixed back to pre-4.1.1 so I just hope its taken care of by 4.2

[small hull]

Is it feasible that the nomad can compete with the hull a simply because it's faster to load/unload/fly

At least without an atls to load the hull a

[faint shard]

IS there a component to upgrade on my MOLE that lets me scan faster

[static reef]

Might be the biggest quant rock we've ever mined, took us 1 mole and 1 prospector.

[spare cloud]

Nice one

[faint shard]

Do you find a full crew
(3-4) of Mole mining to be profitable?

I feel like the refined ore is pretty worthless especially Vs Pyro Bounties

[novel ore]

Prospector mining with a Helix -- are any of the passive modules worth getting?

[brisk berry]

I run a helix on my Golem. Will have to check my build tomorrow after work but pretty sure i use a passive module to help with green zone.

[brisk berry]

I feel it depends on what game loop you enjoy.

[warm totem]

not that I am aware of, you press the button and it scans so not sure how much faster that could be - maybe I am misunderstanding your question

[junior fern]

i’ve unlocked experienced missions and want to get the Hull C, but i’m poor and doing Baijini Point to Area 18 rookie missions is tedious

what else could I do?

[warm totem]

That super depends on the rock your trying to crack - check out regolith.rocks for great info on setups and modules. You can make your own loadouts, and compare them. My fav loadout is a Helix1, a Rieger-C3, and a FLTR-XL - and don't forget to get some mole bags to swap out the stock ones.

[warm totem]

what sort of "experienced missions" are you trying out?

[junior fern]

none, I don’t have a ship for them

i’ve been renting a RAFT to do cargo

and the raft doesn’t have the capacity for them

[warm totem]

I would rent a taurus and do hauling missions in stanton -

190K to rent at area 18

3 days of steady hauling (double up the contracts if you can) and you'll make a few space bucks - it takes time, but the road to riches is in the journey, not the payout! You'll find this game is very enjoyable with friends, and eventually you'll run into the right folks - and then a few more.

[junior fern]

doesn’t the raft have more capacity than Taurus?

[warm totem]

Tuarus has 174 - raft is listed at 96 unless they changed it

[lean fable]

The new raft update made it worth while now too.

It's way up

It's slow for short hops though because of the elevator

[warm totem]

I do seem to recall it went up or something, someone correct me

[lean fable]

It's like 190+ now, they got rid of the dumb grabber things

[warm totem]

ah thats nice -

[lean fable]

yah, and added a tractor beam

[warm totem]

so chairlord you do know you dont have to haul larger loads all at once right? you can go back and do the mission in two runs

[junior fern]

192

[junior fern]

what i’ve been doing was 8 rookie contracts from Baijini to Area 18

[lean fable]

My first cargo levels were the zeus and then the raft.... all from baiijni point

You can stack a ton of them there

[warm totem]

so whats the payout like for that?

[junior fern]

because that’s a lot more money than two missions

[lean fable]

You level up a lot quicker too

[junior fern]

well, if every one is 50k, you get about 350 to 400k

but it’s very tedious as it’s all 1 scu boxes

[warm totem]

not bad, you spend some time - you shoudl be able to rack up some loot

[lean fable]

It's worth it when you get to hull c missions

[warm totem]

oh man screw 1 scu boxes, lol

[lean fable]

I'm on #6 tonight at 711K/ea

[quiet night]

Atls speeds the 1 scu box shuffling up a lot makes it more bearable

[junior fern]

wish I could cluster 1 scu’s into 8 scu packages automatically

maybe pay a small fee at the elevator to load things into pallets

[lean fable]

Once you get off rookie you start getting 4SCU which makes it a bit quicker

[junior fern]

i’m at experienced rank

[quiet night]

Yeah it's so daft not letting the box size be changed or like you sat palleted up

[lean fable]

oh, and you're doing singles?

[junior fern]

what do you mean singles

[lean fable]

1scu

oh I re-read...you're doing rookie

[junior fern]

wish I wasn’t, but making 400k per run is really nice

[lean fable]

I don't think you gain experience doing that do you?

[junior fern]

and they only come in 1 scu, maybe 4

don’t need the exp anymore, I already have experienced rank

I just need the Hull C and i’ll be good

[lean fable]

yes, I just live out of mine now, lol

[junior fern]

wonder if I could make good money renting a prospector and doing some mining

[lean fable]

Maybe? I think money per hour is still the best with cargo

[warm totem]

I think you'll do better with the cargo hauling to get to the hull - maybe settle for the C2 ?

[junior fern]

might do that

but first, where do I deliver resources in Jackson’s Swap?

[hidden sky]

So I finally worked my way up to the Tycoon pack and got a hull C. NGL I havent done a lot of hauling this patch. Actually maybe only have done 1 or 2 missons. Do I need to do it until I get to the size that the Hull C can carry? Or?

[pliant lantern]

Hull c sadly is pretty broken

[hidden sky]

Oh.....

guess I have to use this pos ugly ass c2

[pliant lantern]

For trading hull c is not so great due to the lack of location and commodity it can transport on those locations

And for hauling I don't know how it works with this ship

Plus the potential loading bugs

[weak oyster]

which quantom drive for the C2 besides the stock one?

[pliant lantern]

Kama which is a very slow one

At the moment the qt drive stats don't make sense the faster have the longest range

Like ts2 can do 366 gm

[weak oyster]

i could get Agni, ts-2 is military so cant buy

[pliant lantern]

314 gm before full refuel is pretty good

[spare cloud]

Erebos is the best you can buy

More range, faster acceleration, less signature than Agni

[faint shard]

I just meant, I have to hold my laser over the rock before any information on whats inside it pops up. I was wondering if there is a way to make that faster.

[spare cloud]

Agni is only faster for jumps longer than 65GM

[weak oyster]

oh i see

[faint shard]

I think I enjoy it, my friends say they enjoy it, but they also feel like they could be doing literally anything else and make more money. I've heard of people making good money with mining, I just haven't experienced it myself yet.

[somber jewel]

Possible to mine hadanite on aberdeen with roc?

[spare cloud]

No, you can't speed up the scanning.

[spare cloud]

Yeah, bring at least a heavy armor. Pembroke ideally

[faint shard]

That's unfortunate. I hope they include some kind of mechanic to speed it up.

[spare cloud]

Wait, hadanite is hand mining only now, isn't it ?

[somber jewel]

I use the pembroke, i normally only go for feynmaline but i've never seen hadanite deposits :/

So thought i'd just ask if it's still possible cos i've never run into it sadly

[mild pumice]

Hadanite is only in caves now for hand mining

[pliant lantern]

I have a member of my corp having 1000 scu in refinery ^^ thanks to swapping of bags

[somber jewel]

Ah that's why i haven't found any, what would you say is the best ore to mine with roc?

Like profit wise, i've been mining feynmaline for the past week.

[pliant lantern]

Are you sure about that ? I have seen hadanite on the surface FPS sized

[weak oyster]

those crates really get stuck on this spot here

[mild pumice]

Yeah me too. I take a couple of Roc bags and spend a morning in Pyro then travel back. I'm keeping my setup at Stanton Gateway, I transfer my gems into an SCU crate then head back to Stanton to sell at BP.

[grave pond]

can the atls geo be bought in game?

[mild pumice]

In 4.2 it will be

[weak oyster]

i bumbed into the station and got a crimestat 1 and some ship now keeps attacking me

[sonic fiber]

A bounty on you ik guessing. Go pay to clear it

[weak oyster]

i did was just 20k fine

[limber marsh]

hi guys! rented a prospector yesterday and it was quite fun 🙂 not sure if i should save up for a golem or prospector though. any recommendations?

[spare cloud]

If you're committed into mining, definitely go for the Prospector

Golem is nothing else than a Starter.
It gets you early money and that's about it

[limber marsh]

Thank you for the advice. Any particular reason its better over the golem? It can mine more types of rocks?

the big windows are nice 🙂

[spare cloud]

Not stuck with a mid mining head, can equip the very good performing Helix, can swap mining bags for MOLE ones, which bumps the carrying capacity to 48 SCU, has an interior

[limber marsh]

wow 50% more scu thats huge. thx i'll save up for the prospector then. will take a while hehe...

[pliant lantern]

You can't swap bags anymore

You can also rent avroc at jumps station it's cheaper

[spare cloud]

You can't exploit to get 96 SCUs

[pliant lantern]

But you can buy bags and store them in a cargo ship and go swap them

And have refinery orders taking 300 hours

[zenith ocean]

Hello there.
I have a question, currently i use a Golem. I use 2 surge modules. For instance I consume the 7 actives they have, and i dont have with me 2 to replace them. The only solution is to blow up my ship and reclaimed it?

[jolly dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-general-kenobi-star-wars-grevious-gif-17774326

[spare cloud]

Just land and repair.

[zenith ocean]

Ty

I was reading the conversation about the prospector. How much cargo it comes as a default? And if it can be upgraded.

[spare cloud]

32 SCU

[zenith ocean]

Can be upgraded?

To 48?

[spare cloud]

Afaik yes.

[obtuse sierra]

for 2 people, two vultures and a cargo ship or a reclaimer?

[frail cypress]

Reclaimer is probably more money/hour, but i've found 2 vultures 1 cargo more fun.

[orchid void]

best place to mine this patch?

and can mole still be uhm let's say upgraded to hold more ores?

[frail cypress]

Nah, they fixed the bag stacking.

[orchid void]

:(

[novel ore]

Thank you!

[zenith ocean]

Also for prospector?

[novel ore]

you can put mole bag on prospector

[frail cypress]

Yes, but you can still make prospector 48 scu

[zenith ocean]

Yes i know i was wondering if it possible 64 80 96…

Stacking

[frail cypress]

They gave us mobility with the bags instead, you can store them, transport them later, store the cargo ship that has them, send them to warehouse in smaller batches, etc.

[rare garnet]

if they have fixed bag stacking, have they also fixed the extra bags that are attached to the ships?
Or are they still just them folded disks that won't fold out?

[past fractal]

I don't believe so. I think those are just uninteractable right now.

[hasty stump]

Question: Hauling missions. The deadline shown in the contract window. Is that how long you have to complete the mission?

[past fractal]

Should be, yes

[hasty stump]

Dang, okay

[past fractal]

You usually get about an hour

[hasty stump]

Yeah, but all the ones on my board right now are less than 5 minutes

I guess I'll just wait for them to run out

[past fractal]

Oh, no

Those timers are how long until that mission 'is no longer needed, and gets replaced"

Those timers just mean in 5 min, that mission becomes a similar but different mission if not taken

[hasty stump]

Ahhh

[past fractal]

Once taken, you get about an hour

If you read the missions, you start to notice the patterns. Amounts and destinations/pickups change minorly, but you can get a sense of how far you need to go with how much based on the names

[hasty stump]

Gotcha gotcha

I'm doing all my hauling with my Zeus ES right now

But I'm enjoying it. It's very chill

Looking forward to getting my Railen. Or my Hull D

[past fractal]

Lol, yeah, might be a bit on those unfortunately, but as long as it's fun, that's the important part

[hasty stump]

Yep, I'm not fussed

Spoke too soon. This outpost is bugged, won't let me land

Won't even let me hail them

distribution centre, not outpost

[analog grotto]

AFAIK, some distribution centers don't let you call a hangar even though they are in buildings that should have them available. They have external freight elevators though

[hasty stump]

Oh there are elevators outside!

Yeah I just found them

Awesome, thanks

... Alright note to self, even if you all the items you're delivering from two different contracts are the same commodity, you can't just mix and match

[warm totem]

I posted not that long ago that I had found a patch of hadonite while out in my ROC - not sure if it's a glitch or what as I have also read it was moved to hand minable but I did mine some on the surface with the ROC recently.

[faint shard]

Does anyone ever just hold onto Commodities to wait for the best deal?

[red peak]

What's better for making money mining or salvaging

[slate spruce]

Hi, does anybody know what determines the size of boxes from mining jobs when delivered to station? I had an Avenger Titan parked in station, and a Raft elsewhere. I collected the jobs from refinery to station inventory, then flew with the avenger for the raft, and then when summoning the boxes, the biggest size was 4 SCU, although there were jobs that yielded 16+ SCU of the same material...

[warm totem]

yes, maybe one day they will be worth more than 1 - but we shall see!

[warm totem]

I dont think anyone knows, might actually be one or two devs who do - lol

[olive gull]

Salvaging

[olive gull]

i believe the algorithm decides that based on the biggest ship you have on the station, in your case it was the Titan, therefore small boxes

[frail cypress]

It might always be 4scu max when collecting to station inventory. I had a raft there and still got the small boxes.

[olive gull]

still 4scu boxes are better than a lot of 1 scu boxes, like those given on Cargo missions

[slate spruce]

Yes, definitely. Still a bit sad that it doesn't at least take the biggest possible box for a ship that's present (when not owned). Makes the logistics with delivering different ores to different destinations more tedious.

[red peak]

Do I'm at the beginning of it all does it get better then accepting arrow salvage ships 😅

[gaunt gate]

what's good with salvaging? better to farm rep and mission or look for wild plate?

[olive gull]

go look for Panels instead, they are in any asteroid belts, like CRU-L1, L2, etc

check this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2CbN6T0BF0

[olive gull]

panels give around $400k each full trip
how much contracts give to you?

[gaunt gate]

ah i'm pretty new to it, i'm still at little ship

but i don't fell is worth it

[olive gull]

lil ship as your starter package?

[gaunt gate]

starter contract, ive some kind of arrow

with like 20k fee to reclaim

in stenton

dunno if farming the rep pay more

[olive gull]

but you have a Vulture, right?

[gaunt gate]

right

[olive gull]

my advice is to go for Panels, you wont have to pay, they pay you!

[gaunt gate]

sounds good!

[hard siren]

Head hunters or citizens for prosperity? for hauling in pyro

what is better payout

[olive gull]

kinda the same, hunters will also offer Bounty missions and those are well paid

beware the Citizens turrets, 'pacifists' they said... bullshyt

[past fractal]

Pacifist doesn't mean pushover

[junior fern]

so should I go and rent a Vulture and use that to grind?

or is it better to buy it and modify the components

[olive gull]

Vulture is PERFECT, only thing u need to change is the scrapping modules, give 2 Abrades and you are ready for anything

[junior fern]

so I should buy it

[olive gull]

if you can, absolutely yes

its around 2m i believe

[junior fern]

cool, I have 3 mil

[junior fern]

why Abrades specifically?

what makes them better?

[sharp swift]

Wider area with decent efficiency. It saves you time as the cost of a negligible amount of RMC

[olive gull]

that

[visual pumice]

Can anyone think of a reason why I wouldn't be scanning rocks while in mining mode in my MOLE? I've checked and my power settings are correct.

[faint shard]

I was experiencing a BUG like that earlier in my mole that when I scanned the "pockets of stuff to scan" wouldn't show any distance and I had to get super close to be able to see any information. I just switched servers and it corrected itself. Servers have been terrible lately for that sort of thing.

[visual pumice]

Yeah looks like it was just that particular patch, the next one over worked fine

[valid orbit]

Can anyone confirm if the fortune is coming in July with the foundation event?

[keen portal]

Is vulture scrapping hulls like a c2 worth it?

[olive gull]

of course! you can easily fill up the vulture's filler 3 times or more with a C2

[junior fern]

where’s a good place to try salvaging?

[keen portal]

Whats the value of that in rmc? My friend and I have been doing head hunter contracts in pyro, debating on either salvaging them as we loot them or if it'd be worth buying a reclaimed or wait for a medium salvage shio

*ship

[olive gull]

a Vulture full 100%, carrying 39 scus of RMC is around $400k

this to be precise

[keen portal]

Potentially dumb question, how much rmc is one c2? Or something equivalent size? We could run a transport with it, though the thought of moving 100+ 1scu box's makes me nauseous alittle

[olive gull]

the other day i found an 890 Jump, took me lil bit more than 1 hour but i got 1,2m from all of it
i bring my C1 to transfer the boxes from the vulture

[keen portal]

Thank you for the answers, last question for now.

The reclaimer prints larger box's I assume, but I also remember back in 3.24 it "munched" wrecks after you stripped them, is this still a thing?

[olive gull]

the munching gives you construction material

this should answer your question

[keen portal]

So something but not much, what size box's does the ol reclaimer print vs the vultures 1scu size? Or I guess the fortune

[olive gull]

several sizes, up to 16scu

[keen portal]

Is it random or does the player choose? I watched one video but they didnt go over it much other then it was obvious they were larger

[olive gull]

you can choose the box size on the Reclaimer's printer

[keen portal]

Thank you for all the answers, will probably look into a reclaimer next time they're for sale.

[novel ore]

Do ship weapons like M6A sell for anything to vendors or are they only good for players

couldnt find any data on any of the web tools for them

[long grail]

Is there a decent way to loot NDB-30s of Ships?

[rich berry]

Reclaimer has a really high storage, and with a ship the size of a 890i you probably will fill it twice. And that will be wellllll above those 50 scus

[rich berry]

Give me a shout later. I can pull my reclaimer out and you can have a test drive with it.

[olive gull]

the stores will sell you for THOUSANDS but buy from you for pennies.

[olive gull]

find a ship with NDBs, and take its guns out, do it while having your clothes on and it will be 'decent'

best place to find ships is where they do PVP, like at the PAF and CZ sites, even outside bunkers.

[long grail]

I rather meant ships that typically run them

[olive gull]

any small and medium fighters, Gladius, Hornets...

[red briar]

Can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong? Trying to sell my local storage saved, boxed commodities like gold, etc at Lorville Center Station commodity exchange. Local storage will not show up when i have to pick a location. there's me and my ships which are empty.

half the ships i click on, for example Roc, shows the Asgard instead, click on Asgard it shows the Reclaimer. Nothing in any of them, just an annoying bug I guess.

[warm totem]

Does anyone know if we will keep artifacts going forward with new game patches?

I also found an ipad that you can unlock and read an email on it. In my inventory it's named as "placeholder" - not sure if I will lose it or not come 4.2 but it's interesting for sure.

[olive gull]

you probably will have to try on a different server, that one seems about to crash

[olive gull]

unlikely, patches use to delete all 'consumables' idk what CIG actually have on that list

[serene wasp]

hello, could anyone hook me up with a mole solo loadout?

[warm totem]

no but I would refer you to regolith.rocks to allow you to easily figure out what would work best for you

[red briar]

thank you- i did restart and loaded it all on a ship and see it now in comodities exchang but it keeps failing saying "'insufficient stock' - items pending transfer" though im trying to sell. It did finally go through but hjas been processing order for 10 minutes. Guessing ill prob lose this load. Ah well.

[red briar]

Red Monster SC has a good youtube video (Best Mining Loadouts in Star Citizen 4.1.1 – Golem, Prospector, and Mole) as well, and they can check out ElGuapoe's (Star Citizen 4.1.1 The Best Beginners Guide Mining for New Players in 2025 | Golem Mole Prospector) video too. Wasnt sure if it was Ok to drop links or not.

[red briar]

yep yep

[night saddle]

what do you guys believe the must-have mining gadgets are for quantanium? running 2-man mole

[dawn isle]

So I just got a mole. Whats the best combo for mining quant

[night saddle]

this is what i run

[dawn isle]

oh hey my question too

[dawn isle]

but I would be mining Quant only. with a friend possibly 2. so All passive mods would be prefered

[serene wasp]

ill check that out

[red briar]

Focus and Reigers are passive and very good to add

[dawn isle]

What mining head?

[red briar]

just be careful to test and make sure the rocks you go for are appropriate. It's pretty complicated but both ElGuapoe and RedMonsterSC have ALOT of awesome info. I'm still fairly new too and blew up my friends pretty easily last night 😄

[junior fern]

wonder if there’s any components I can swap on the Vulture besides the scrapers, already using dual Abrade

[past cave]

how to crack with full crew mole?

I think i have to use Sabir but instability is going to be a massive problem

[frail cypress]

2 helix with dual surges and stampede might be enough, then a hofstead with 1 or 2 focus if green zone is small, and boremax for instability.

[past cave]

cracked it with sabir and impact instead of 2nd helix. instability wasn't that bad, got it on the third round of surges

[night saddle]

what do these range meters mean

[sharp swift]

Lasers have a power output that also matters on the distance between you and the rock

optimal is what the manufacturer recommends and probably what the difficulty is calculated at

so you can back up/get closer to affect the power's effect on the rock. You might want to hug an IMPOSSIBLE rock at 100% output, but if you know you only have a strong laser and the rock you need to break is tiny, then you'd rather go to max and be at min power to not overload it

the slashy bits are the rock's explosion distance if you begin to overload it

[night saddle]

so i wouldnt take any damage if my ship isnt in the red range?

but mining laser power changes over range

[sharp swift]

correct, shouldn't

[night saddle]

alright

[dawn isle]

So me and my buddy are trying to mine but no matter what we do he cant change his laster intensity. is there a fix?

[sonic fiber]

Ship or hand mine?

[dawn isle]

ship. we are in a mole

[dawn isle]

Fixed it. he relogged

[snow flare]

does it matter where you do your refining?

[long grail]

How do you salvage the interior parts like power plants from smaller ships with only a pilot canopy to enter?

[olive gull]

yes, some refineries do better than others depending on the ores, may a bit old but check this: https://www.scminingmom.com/post-mining/refining

[olive gull]

you can not.

[long grail]

my goat.

[olive gull]

not all ships have the 'gold standard'

[hidden sky]

So I guess I found out the hard way... Bed logging wont save your stuff in your ore bags?? Also was the prospector always this slow? I just tried a golem the other day and got so used to how zippy it was... Now I feel like im slogging around in the prospector.

[left ore]

I mean, it does have “Go” in the name after all

[hidden sky]

lol

[lean fable]

No hull-c master missions? That's too bad

[faint shard]

Delivery Failed - ▯▯▯▯▯▯▯▯▯▯▯ Any Work Around on this?

[charred sable]

guys i need help on the loadouts for my golem im having a hard time breaking hard rocks that has alot of scu is there a way for me to break it any loadout recomendation

[olive gull]

the key is the Rieger C3 module, the Focus module is to compensate the Rieger side effects

[charred sable]

@olive gull thanks

i have been wondering how to break the big rocks and just do 1 big rock at a time

[olive gull]

keep in mind there is a limit to what the golem can do, for really big rocks you would have to try in the Mole ship

[charred sable]

would you say prospetor is better than golem ? if so whats the best loadout for it also about the mole also just for a single peroson mining

[spice shell]

It's a $60 starter ship vs a $155 ship that can exchange mining lasers. Yes, it's better.

[olive gull]

lots of questions, check this channel, he's specialty is mining
https://www.youtube.com/@Elguapoe

[spiral plover]

So, guys, I currently have a titan avenger that I pledged for and have been earning decent money in pyro with MRTs - about 500k to 600k/hr. I feel good about my earning potential with it. I'm torn between saving for a connie or getting a vulture/prospector. I can't rent a vulture - at least that I know of, but that is what I am most interested in. However, if I cant make more money than bounty hunting, I am not interested. I currently have 3.1 m saved up. What should I do?

[sonic fiber]

Depends what you like. Vulture is easy money yes

But like 150k an hour

[spiral plover]

Oh geez, sounds like the juice isnt worth the squeeze. What if you go unverified?

[sonic fiber]

Same, you dont get good rewards anymore

[past fractal]

In a Vulture, it's about the same. It has to do with how it works. That said, you can sometimes do around 200k unverified every 30 min, if you get lucky with missions.

Conversely, you can try Pyro, it's riskier, but you can make more if you're careful and quick.

Industry is about steady, safe, repetitive; until crafting comes in, it's not as profitable as nuking shit, speed wise.

[sonic fiber]

It's all just how fast can you salvage

[spiral plover]

Gotcha, 400k to 600k/hr is reasonable and I dont mind doing unverified. I like hanging out in pyro. Do you need to grind rep outside pyro?

If you're skilled (which I am obviously not), how does that bump the numbers?

[past fractal]

No, Pyro has it's own rep for salvage

[spiral plover]

Ok, cool.

MRT in pyro is like 600k/hr and feels low risk, just need to suicide once I run out of QT fuel lol

[past fractal]

You're looking 400k every 30 min, max, and that's just the ship limitation. If you have help, you can do around 500k every 30 min

[spiral plover]

That's really not bad. I mean, I just need a break from ship killing lol. Getting kind of repetitive.

How much does a prospector vary from that?

[past fractal]

Have a friend with a cargo ship help you keep your bay clear, and you can just scrape non-stop

[spiral plover]

I do have a friend with a cargo ship

[sonic fiber]

400k doing what?

[past fractal]

Prospector is a wild card. If you get lucky, you can do 300k in 5 min. If you're not, well... hope you are

[spiral plover]

Man, I just wish I could borrow a vulture lol

[quiet night]

can borrow mine if you are ingame now

[spiral plover]

I am ingame and in Pyro, would appreciate it

[quiet night]

add me on spectrum

ill dm you name

[sonic fiber]

Where are you making 400k in 30mins in a vulture?

[past fractal]

There's a mission in Pyro that costs 200k to accept. You can scrape there for hours in a vulture as long as you pay attention. If you don't have to stop to unload, and you have abrades, you can scrape around 1mil an hour

You can do unverifieds cat/hh and do the same thing in stanton, but without a cargo ship, you just run out of space at around 400k

[sonic fiber]

I've never scraped that fast

[past fractal]

Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast. Use abrades, learn the ship geometry

[spiral plover]

eh, fuck it, i think im just gonna buy one and get grinding. my buddy got a cargo ship and bounty hunting is driving me insane slowly

[past fractal]

Lil tip, replace the Cinch heads with abrade, replace the single Abrade head with a tractor beam. Makes it easier to move bigger shit.

[spiral plover]

where can i get them?

[past fractal]

Dumper's Depot, ship part stores, sometimes Platinum Bay. Check finder.cstone.space

Also, practice using the tractor beam. Don't wanna throw your salvage off into space on accident

[spiral plover]

okay, bought the vulture. time to get the parts. will prolly clear some MRTs in pyro and suicide my ass back to orison

[dawn isle]

So is it better to mine quant in the Aaron Halo or on lyria?

[obsidian reef]

anyone here interested in trying this one out? my prospector sadly isn't enough to handle this one

[past fractal]

you're more likely to find it at all on Lyria, and it'll usually be in smaller chunks that are easier to mine, but it can be found in the Halo if you know how to look for it, but honestly, just go to pyro and get Stil/Ric, because they sell for almost as much as quant and are stable

[dawn isle]

I’ve never been to pyro so truthfully I don’t even know where to look or frankly how to get there

[past fractal]

through the gateway wormhole. Check regolith.rocks for locations to go to. Be careful, the locations are active mission sites, maintain distance, be mindful of players, stay alert

I wish they'd patch the asgard so I can use it for stuff... right now it's just expensive hangar flair because of all the bugs it has...

and release the fortune to shops in game...

[dawn isle]

I was under the assumption that pyro is just a shithole and is just full if pirates lol

[past fractal]

it's usually pretty empty

you can't get rep there, and the only people there are industrialists picking the bones of places carefully, or pvp'ers looking for a fight. Murderhobo's tend to stay away cuz of the pvp'ers, and industrialists tend to be safe because of the pvp'ers

Outside of the Halo, Pyro tends to be safer than Stanton

[lament wigeon]

what is the process for selling gems to a mining facility? I put the gems into a container, sent it down the freight elevator, but it doesn't show up as an inventory in the terminal

[past fractal]

go to a terminal and take them out of the box

the STOR-ALL boxes are known to have that bug

same with like the GEO/ROC bags

[dawn isle]

Can I take any ship through the wormhole?

[spiral plover]

pyro is my favorite area man, not even playing. most profitable area in the game.

[past fractal]

Yes, but smaller ships tend to be somewhat... sway-y...

[dawn isle]

wym sway-y lmao

[past fractal]

Larger ships are actually easier to control in the wormhole, small ones tend to swing around with very minor movement

Think of the ship as constantly being pushed to the edge of a centrifuge, and the centrifuge is the exact center of the wormhole. Large ships aren't as affected by that

[dawn isle]

I see.. Well when I get there where should I mine for those rocks? I checked that website but im smooth brain and didnt really see a place for locations

[past fractal]

So, there are mining outposts, I think they're called like RAB- something. Some of them have higher chances for Stil/Ric. Those are the ones you want

[lament wigeon]

are mining facilities supposed to have local inventory terminals somewhere? searching the one im at but if they have one, it is well hidden

[past fractal]

I don't think so actually. You might have to sell in batches from your backpack

Or go to a city's admin terminal

[lament wigeon]

ok i didnt realize i could open up a container inventory within the freight terminal. i was able to move the gems directly from the box into the local inventory

[past fractal]

oh nice, well there you go

[short tapir]

how much money can i earn an hour with scraping with the vulture?

and can it be rented ingame?

[past fractal]

Vulture can not be rented

You can make anywhere from 150k to around 1mil an hour, but anything over 400k requires help

[short tapir]

Alright thats a good amount of money if you solo it and thats too bad you cant rent it i dont feel like upgrading my prospector for it

[past fractal]

You can buy it in game for under 3 mil

2,646,000

[short tapir]

yeah but requires i grind some more ores

[past fractal]

ahh, fair

[short tapir]

Do you know where it can be purchased?

[short tapir]

before the wipe i had one but never tested it i bought the reclaimer so fast (there was soo much money to be had in reclaming ships 😮 3 millions was so little money for me hehe

damn loreville oh well its been a while but ill note it thank you for your time

[past fractal]

no worries, have fun out there

[short tapir]

didnt they add another ship for reclaiming as well?

[past fractal]

Fortune

[short tapir]

or am i mixing two games together

[past fractal]

It's... not good..., but it's small, so it can fit in other ships sometimes

it's also not able to be bought right now, not in store, or in game

[short tapir]

good ill aim for the vulture then

thank you

[short tapir]

oh i have enough for it! yay! is there any upgrades for it ? Like you can upgrade the prospectors mining head?

[past fractal]

There's alternative loadouts

It comes with 2 Cinch, 1 Abrade, and 1 tractor beam

it is generally advised to switch to 2 Abrade, and 2 tractor beam

put the abrades where the cinch are, and put the tractor beam where the abrade is

[short tapir]

i will take a note of this and figure out where to buy it while im travleing to loreville

[past fractal]

check finder.cstone.space

[short tapir]

im doing that as we speak

great game froze as i was about to click buy lol

[obsidian reef]

uhhh

anyone interested? lol

[past fractal]

You gunna want a Sabir on that, and like 3-4 good lasers

[crisp raptor]

Apologies I was interested in trying that but my friend couldnt get in that damn server

[obsidian reef]

yeah but I am alone :(

[obsidian reef]

yeah that's rough

[crisp raptor]

Would've came in Mole, fully crewed also

[obsidian reef]

just found another one that's a bit too much for me

@crisp raptor right next to the 110k mass one lmao

[crisp raptor]

we're doing this

Dang, modules spent and the wind isnt playing nice.

[obsidian reef]

rip

[crisp raptor]

Modules replaced, now trying it again

[spiral plover]

so, i was able to make 250k an hour in stanton doing an unverified on the vulture

it was fun, but the biggest time sink is figuring out where to sell shit

anyone got advice on selling? because orison is ass. solid 10 minutes on selling

[crisp raptor]

Rock broke, finally.

[past fractal]

you get less at Grim, and even less at like Lorville / A18 / NB, but they tend to sell faster since they aren't being swarmed by reclaimers full of shit

[spiral plover]

wdym?

[past fractal]

Right now, people tend to solo reclaimers for unverified HH/Cats, scrape for 20-30 min, then munch and do another, and another, and another, until they get bored and want to sell. Since Orison not only has the best prices, but the unverifieds are at yela, they go to Orison, since they can dock there, and sell tons of shit

So, even in a vulture, you're competing with hundreds, if not thousands of SCU of RMC and CON being offloaded there around the clock, since all region servers share inventory

So even though like A18 for example, can take it, without problem most of the time, you get less due to the sell price there being 8,500, instead of 11k, but you don't have to wait and check every 5 minutes to sell 20 boxes of stuff, since there aren't 50 other players selling thousands of boxes of it there

TL:DR just because the best price is higher, it doesn't mean it's better to try to sell it for that

[spiral plover]

wait, you dont just instantly sell it?

[past fractal]

You can, sometimes

But at Orison, the stock is almost always maxed

Because of dozens of reclaimers pumping it full to the brim around the clock

[spiral plover]

jesus, aight, what about going to sell in pyro?

[past fractal]

You can

Just check your prices and stations

I use UEXCORP for that

Some people use SCTradeTools

[spiral plover]

yeah, looking at it rn, uexcorp

[sonic fiber]

One day they will invent some sort of way to get information in your ship about trade. Some sort of connection of computers that buyers and sellers can go to

Maybe the Banu have something we could adapt

What does Wikelo use to offer his wares?

[past fractal]

Maybe that will come with merchant vessels like the BMM and Privateer?

[sonic fiber]

We can dream

[frail cypress]

Strange, i never had problems selling RMC at orison. I just dump the vulture's cargo into the warehouse then go back scraping. Keep doing it until i have 1-2m worth of stuff, then take the shuttle to tdd and sell everything at once.

[past fractal]

You're probably getting lucky with either region or timezone/region. I tried Orison last night for example and got stuck waiting 20 minutes to sell everything, and I only had about 20 boxes

That or I'm getting really unlucky, idk

[frail cypress]

Might want to try a region where it's in the middle of the night

[latent pasture]

where do you sell CMAT on lorville i feel like im going mad

its not showing up in admin, its not showing up as local market value in TDD and I cannot get the guy in reclamationm to speak to me

I do not understand, i can allegedl sell 794scu here at 2.1k/pop

I have over 1k scu here

why is it not showing up in any of my inventories

[vestal ravine]

Hello. What site is that?

[latent pasture]

Lorville CBD

[vestal ravine]

Try it at the TDD terminals.

[latent pasture]

there is no TDD on lorville right?

I have over 1k scu in cmat sitting in loreville I havev no interest in ferrying all of it to a18 I'd rather just not get paid its literally not worth the 2ish mil

[vestal ravine]

Yes there is. Take the tram to station with the big gold statue of old man hurston.

[latent pasture]

I used to sell on lorville all the time while ago

[latent pasture]

thats the CBD

where I am

where the terminal is

this terminal here

CBD

[vestal ravine]

Once Pyro launched CM was taken out as a Comoddity item and sold at the TDDs since Pyro doesn't have TDDs.

[wheat forge]

what am I doing wrong?

[latent pasture]

and lorville has tmk never had a TDD, always just CBD.

Furthermore, my confusion lies with the fact ive sold cmat at the lorville CBD many many times in the past but this patch I cannot even get itt o show up on the left side of my terminal not even once

the CBD in lorville again tmk I can only find Commodity Terminals

[vestal ravine]

I thought the 4 big cities had both types selling terminals sorry if I am wrong.

[latent pasture]

right

tyhe commodity shop

shows

that I can sell construction materials here at the CBD

however

no matter what I do

I cannot get the inventory to appear on the left side of the screen,

so I Cannot sell regardless.

Fantastic

well thats a phat QtD and I'll come back another patch to sell hopefully

[fallen osprey]

Hey yall how do we figure out the max size hangar we can get at a certain station?

Like can C2s land anywhere? Or?

[spare cloud]

Clicking on a location on the star map, you can see the size of its hangars.

But there isn't a single station/city that doesn't have large hangars.

[fallen osprey]

Ah- So Rats nest does have large hangers. I am guessing when you get like XL ships tho you might run into issues. Like the reclaimer

I hear you cant get a hangar for XL ships in stations...

[spare cloud]

Yep, only in some specific places

[spiral plover]

no issues selling when i loaded into the cargo bay too

[silver nova]

Question regarding gadgets and mining stats:

Is -% or +% laser instability better>

?

[left ore]

-instability is better. Instability is the amount that the power oscillates up and down. 0% in theory would be completely steady

I just got a Vulture
"Let's go take it for a spin"
Undock from station - 15km away is a dead Polaris 🤑
Also, scraping large ship ramps is such a treat . . .

[mossy arch]

Do refinery orders still wipe with patches? Don't know if I should bother setting up any orders tonight

[warm totem]

yes they do in my exp. I don't think the patch is dropping until late into the week if it is even this week - but I seriously know nothing, just a hunch. I would recommend just to keep on rolling - if you lose something, you can easily get more!

[junior fern]

where’s a good place to mine? just bought myself a ROC

[past fractal]

Depends on what you want to find more of. Any moon, Microtech, or Hurston, or just about any planet or moon in Pyro

[junior fern]

well, ideally something I can make money from

[junior fern]

is Quantanium something you can do with a ROC?

also, should I buy more bags for it?

[past fractal]

No, you cannot mine Quant in a ROC. Probably the best thing you can mine with any regularity is going to be Feynmaline

[junior fern]

alright, where’s a good place for that?

[past fractal]

Extra bags are an option if you plan to be out for a while

Pyro honestly

[junior fern]

currently gonna be ferrying it with a Cutty Black

[past fractal]

I wouldn't bother having more than 2 or 3 extra bags. You really should sell regularly instead of stockpiling to prevent losing an entire ship full of the stuff

[junior fern]

do bags at least snap to the grid?

[past fractal]

yes

Although they lineup horribly because their sizing is weird

[tired gate]

What’s the state of ROC mining rn? I just tried mining some rocks on Stanton and they didn’t break into any gems. Still need to only do it in Pyro?

[ornate halo]

They should work. What rocks were they? Feynmaline?

[past fractal]

Some rocks have no gems in them for some reason, it seems to be random. If one rock in a patch is that way, the whole patch is that way, just find a different one

[tired gate]

Ok thanks! It was a glac cluster. Had a feynmaline that worked fine earlier

[junior fern]

wonder if a 4 SCU box would be overkill for Feyn mining

[faint shard]

Does Terra Mills Farm just not work sometimes? My RCM box just vanished

[faint shard]

Why Can't I sell my RCM in Orison? Terra Mills stole a box when it made one disappear. Anyone know why its not working?

[slow pumice]

Anyone have any tips for getting the HULL C to pickup from Everus? Works at other stations

[weak oyster]

on how many containers does the reclaimer start deleting them

[mild pumice]

It took me a couple of hours to fill 2 ROC bags which is 2.4scu so depends how long you wanna be out, you can just take spare bags. But I do recommend using an SCU box to transport the gems, especially if you mine in Pyro, I just leave my mining setup in Pyro and run the gems back

[junior fern]

yeah, I didn’t realize how long it’d take to do this

[ornate halo]

Used to be over 100. Not sure if that's changed

[frail cypress]

When i'm orbiting a planet/moon, how do i determine which way is east/west on the surface?

[junior fern]

wonder if I can fit an ATLS in the RAFT

it should be better than the built in tractor beam on the RAFT, right

[spare cloud]

In the airlock, yes

[junior fern]

hopefully it makes moving 100+ 1 scu boxes easier

[mild pumice]

Maybe in 4.2 ATLS will snap on the grid due to cargo lift changes?

[frail cypress]

Thanks again, this works perfectly. No more mining in pitch black darkness 🙂

[small hull]

The atls will snap to the raft grid in 4.2

Goated

[olive gull]

you know the RAFT has its own tracktor beam right? and its far better than others i've tried like the Taurus or C1

[small hull]

Yeah the raft tractor beam is great but atls is still much faster

But I think if you are doing medium sized contracts with 8 scu boxes it probably faster to not mess with the atls

Anything under that I'd prefer the atls

[crude thunder]

I still struggle with the awkwardness of the on ship tractor beams. I still have a lot of use for the maxlift

I've used the tractor on the Nomad, the Reliant Kore, C1, Taurus, Vulture now Raft

[small hull]

I prefer the raft the most of those. Having it off to the side is actually more useful

[past fractal]

I personally dislike the ATLS as a cargo mover. I want finesse, control, and safety when moving literal tonnage around, not speed and force

[crude thunder]

The worst struggle is just the field of depth "am I getting the cargo all the way to the back?" It gets it on the grid but it wont be pretty

[shell sorrel]

i hear quant is selling 200k per scu nowadays

[crude thunder]

could use a light back there to see it better or a small camera

[small hull]

Most of the finesse is taken out of it since boxes snap to the grid

[small hull]

Yeah I feel yah. Usually I got the box marked on the closest part of the grid and then solely use the scroll wheel to move it back

[crude thunder]

I heard somewhere that the Atls works best with eye trackers

[past fractal]

I still don't want actual tons of materials moving at mach jesus for any reason around me

[olive gull]

not on stores, but nowadays there is a high demand among players, check at #market-street

[crude thunder]

if you aren't knocking over your party/org members with giant containers and parts of ships.... are they even your friends?

[small hull]

Once you are in hit "z" to enter free look. Let's you look around without waiting for the mech to move

[floral lichen]

Didn’t know this. Wasn’t in demand. So I threw it in my cutty black and hauled it to Ashland and shat my pants selling it…. But sell it I did indeed 😎

[shell sorrel]

Been watching a lot of videos on quant mining. Cannot figure out the best place for quant mining

any clues?

[frail cypress]

How does player to player trade work exactly? As far as i know there is no dedicated UI for that, so how do the involved parties make sure nobody is scammed?

[shell sorrel]

Ask for 200k/scu, don't negotiate lower, it's solid sellers market rn. Will probably be 250k by end of the week and 300k next week at the rate it's going. Don't sell yourself short.

Meet in your hangar. Ask him to pay 1/2 first. Send 1/2 up. Let him send it back down. then have him pay other 1/2 and if he pays send 1/2 up, let him send down. You're done.

Don't fall for "I want to see the Quant first".. he'll shoot you and send your cargo down. Follow point 2 to the letter and you'll be fine.

[shell sorrel]

^^

[frail cypress]

Thanks

[shell sorrel]

Remember step 2. Best way to avoid scamming

Are you mining quant?

[frail cypress]

Yes

[shell sorrel]

Any recommendations for good places?

[frail cypress]

Elguapo released a new video about that like 2 days ago

[shell sorrel]

I just watched it hahaha

still couldnt get a hold on the best Pyro place

[frail cypress]

That's all i got 🙂

[shell sorrel]

Monox or pyro 1 he said

[frail cypress]

What i do is just mine whatever, and be happy if i find quant

[shell sorrel]

Are you a pyro settler?

[frail cypress]

wouldn't call myself a settler

Mostly around crusader for now

[olive gull]

its based on trust and reputation, at least on the Market of this server,
yesterday i wanted a P8-AR so i said "WTB P8-AR' on the #market-street
5 mins later i got a dm..
met in game, made a party..
he dropped the item in my hangar so i could pick it, i send the credits,
and business completed 👍

[shrewd hinge]

Started using my Hull C for the first time. I've seen people using it without much issues and some people hitting the same bug I am. I get inside the blue/green box and it says unable to process have to sit still etc, but my ship isn't moving. I've tried backing out, going back in, turning engines off, powering off, retracting spindles and redeploying them, even tried warping away and coming back. Has anyone else hit this issue and found a workaround aside from logging off and finding another server?

[strong kiln]

I watched a video on this, and the dude said that if it happens, just move up or down continuously, but stop before exiting the box and it should work. Also, make sure you are extended before you enter the box

[shrewd hinge]

I saw someone on Reddit saying to try moving, something about a thruster might be bugged or something. Tried that but couldnt get it to do anything different. and yeah I am deployed when I enter, but noticed that by reconfiguring inside the box, it causes the movement message to change to waiting for spindle deployment, but then it just sits there. Thought maybe it was just the servers are shit since they haven't done any server maintenance in a long time.

I will try the stop just before the end of the box and see if it works though.

[junior fern]

if i’m grinding money with a bunch of rookie contracts, which means 1 scu boxes, then ATLS should be much better

[strong kiln]

yeah let me know how ti goes, im about to rent out a hullc and i kindawanna know if it works before i do

[shrewd hinge]

Won't be till later tonight, but I'll let you know regardless.

[frail cypress]

Any workaround for some of the contracted cargo randomly disappearing from the Hull C?
It loads fine, visually all there, but at the destination several hundred scu is just missing.

[olive gull]

happened the same to me while carrying boxes on the RAF, couple boxes vanished, mission failed,
i blamed glitch on the RAFT's new grid

tried mission again on the Asgard, this time, all boxes arrived safe, mission complete.

[lean fable]

I think that's life with hull c missions. I've done a ton of them and very rarely do I submit a full mission.

[olive gull]

magnetic grids still need work to be safe

[lean fable]

You're not magically autoloading with the raft are you?

[olive gull]

nope i use the RAFT's tractor beam, its good, its learning curve is faster than the hauling bot

[lean fable]

Ahh, yah...I really like the new raft update. Only issues I've had with the grid are overlapping boxes getting stuck on each other and the far front not actually sticking

[olive gull]

that too, yeah

[lean fable]

Right after the raft update I was high enough to do hull c missions, so now the raft just sits. :(