industrial-professions

[weak tinsel]

Ore is stored within a ship just like a cargo box
You need to start a refinery job to clear the ore cargo

There is no other way to refine ore for now and most likely for a very long time

[median anvil]

@weak tinsel what scraper do i use?

[strong pewter]

But is there another way to clear my ships inv other than starting a refinery job?

In other words, stockpile my ore?

[weak tinsel]

Have never done scrapping so sorry cant help ya here

[mild pumice]

2x abrades is best

[weak tinsel]

Only way to stockpile ore if for some god forsaken reson you want to is to manually detach ore bags and store them in the in cargo of the station

[median anvil]

wah about the 2 other slots?

[mild pumice]

I keep them 1 cinch and tractor

[median anvil]

alr

ty

[mild pumice]

make sure you make the middle 2 abrade so they open together

[weak tinsel]

If you start a refinery job the job will sit in the refinery until they do a soft wipe like the one going from 4.0.2 to 4.1

[mild pumice]

I use the cinch for making art

[strong pewter]

I dont want to go out, mine for 5 minutes, fill up my prospector, jump back to the station, store my ship, go into the station, find the refinery, start a job, run back to the ship, call the ship, fly out, do it all again in 5 minutes..... Its tedious and annoying to have to do it that way and not be able to unload your ore

[weak tinsel]

The refinery can store theoretically infinite amount of ore
I had at most stored 12 orders of 90SCU ish

[weak tinsel]

Unloading ore would be not very less tedious and to refine it the bag of ore needs to be on the mining ship

But I agree, the part of running around a lot when mining is the most annoying part, would love a easier method

Pyro refineries can be directly accessed from the hangar elevator if I'm not mistaken so they are much faster to use

[mild pumice]

Yeah pyro station transit (except Stanton Gateway) is with the hangar transit so does ship the run through the station

[strong pewter]

Yeah I have been holding off doing any mining in Pyro cuz I don't want to pvp in this game, kinda why im mining / salvaging / hauling lol I'm garbage at pvp

[weak tinsel]

Pyro does not mean constant pvp

I have been sitting in there for two days mining gems and have not seen a single other soul

Same planet I'm going to try mining on with a Mole today most likely

[median anvil]

@mild pumice whats better scraping pannels or getting mission for ships?

[spare cloud]

Getting missions is terrible TBF
There are plenty places where you can find abandoned ships to scrape and munch

[mild pumice]

Panels for RMC or take the cover-up missions (under the unverified tab) just be gone before the feds show up. The paid missions are a scam

[median anvil]

i have not played in 2 years so i never did salvage before where do i go for panels?

[mild pumice]

Any asteroid field, look for signal of 2000 multiples

You can do them in either Yela or Termunus(pyro 6) rings, just go to a spot far away from an OM

Best places tbh

[median anvil]

qm?

[mild pumice]

Orbital Marker

[median anvil]

and do i just farm any panel i see?

[mild pumice]

Go to the OMs nearest to the ring then fly 100km or so deep into the ring and scan for signals, 8000/10000 etc is what you want for panels, multiple of 2000

It's pretty peaceful you shouldn't see anyone tbh

[median anvil]

this good?

[mild pumice]

The mission locations can spawn NPC pirates and the Legrange points are a bit open

[mild pumice]

Perfect

[median anvil]

wdym 8000

[mild pumice]

A panel has a signal of 2000 so a group of 4 panels will have a signal of 8000, so you're looking for any signal that's a multiple of 2000

[median anvil]

brah u told me to put both in middle and now its messed up

[mild pumice]

That's something you've charged, normally top 2 are active

I can't remember the binding to switch one side at a time sorry, but by default it's the top two that are active

[median anvil]

and where do i sell it?

[mild pumice]

I take mine back to my personal hangar in Orison and sell it there but there's multiple locations, have a look at sc trade tools.

If I'm salvaging at Pyro I sell to Ruin Station but they pay less, however it's less risk than bringing it back to Stanton

[median anvil]

whats the name of the mat?

material*

[mild pumice]

RMC (scraping) Construction Materials (munching)

It's only RMC from panels

Munching (IMHO) is only worth it in a Reclaimer

[median anvil]

its working well

[coarse ember]

move those boxes to the left a bit more you can fit the boxes in easier on the far left and fill that gap on the 2nd top row, if you're careful you can fit about 24 in there alone tho it'll block the ejector on the last 2 so fill your buffer up before that if you wanna min-max it

[mild pumice]

I advise print as much as you can before you fly back because sometimes the buffer doesn't remember the contents when you cross server lines in the shard (this can even happen going from Yela to Orison!)

[median anvil]

yeah its filled to the brim

legit have 0 space im going back rn

[mild pumice]

usually you can print the extra boxes later but as I say sometimes it bugs out

[median anvil]

lol @mild pumice

[mild pumice]

nice job

I'm out hauling. this game is so pretty sometimes

[median anvil]

37 1 run lol

watched the full movie too

[median anvil]

hualing takes so long tho

[mild pumice]

I don't mind I like it

[median anvil]

its mid money too

are we deadass what do i do now?

[mild pumice]

Their demand is super low you're better off to sell at one of the major cities

[fallen osprey]

Hey yall, anyone know the biggest mass we can break with a golem?

[mild pumice]

or you can wait for the demand to refresh

[median anvil]

just told

sold*

[mild pumice]

Nice

[median anvil]

411k

[mild pumice]

sounds like you got lucky for a quick refresh

it's around 15 mins but not always a full refresh

[pearl juniper]

#industrial-professions message The posts just following this one, more specifically.

[strong pewter]

Hey guys, I put an argo bag in this container, anyway I can get it out while its NOT in the elevator?

Wont let me drag and drop out cuz its not an item we can carry

[coarse ember]

woo mineables finally getting fixed

[weak tinsel]

Impossible to take it out just like any ship component

[strong pewter]

damn.....stuck not being able to use my argos

[weak tinsel]

Huh

[strong pewter]

already lost 80k worth of argos bags to the elevator

[weak tinsel]

You need to buy a bunch of boxes to cover the bottom layer of the elevator then the box wont clip

Not box the bag wont clip

[main grove]

Jahlium also only mineable from the event cave?

[strong pewter]

im at wide forest station, anywhere here I can buy something to cover the bottom floor?

[weak tinsel]

1scu cargo box might be avilable in the refinery

[strong pewter]

how do you make sure the boxes are on the bottom ?

[weak tinsel]

they most likely will spawn first

i have not done this only repeating what i saw ppl wrote here

[strong pewter]

Thank you, appreciate you taking the time ❤️

[fallen osprey]

What website is that?

Also If we have 2 golems and hit it at the same time does it double it? Or?

[weak tinsel]

this is his own excell sheet of calculations for lasers

the power combines and the multipliers of heads and modules also apply twice

[mild pumice]

Yes however the there's a negative effect on stability for two solo mining ships firing at the same rock (whereas multiple MOLE lasers get a stability buff)

[fallen osprey]

I see.

[fallen osprey]

Thank you much

We can break bigger rocks then mwhahahaha

I need a partner...

[weak tinsel]

but breakable mass is -> laser head power* 5 *resistance%

[fallen osprey]

So if I slap on the tool which decreases resistance by 50% it basically doubles breakable mass? Right?

[pearl juniper]

it's a spreadsheet I built. I haven't uploaded a version with the golem laser yet, but here's the mole / prospector version. #industrial-professions message

[fallen osprey]

Thank you much

[weak tinsel]

no if the rock has a resistance of 30%
resistance can not go below 0% and rarely it goes above 40% usually 20 to 30

[fallen osprey]

Right. I was mining last night and had difficulty breaking a lotta high value rocks.

But seeing the max mass shows me yeah I was never gonna break that thing lol

[weak tinsel]

i have seen rocks of gold with a mass of over 100 000 and that needs two moles if im right

and if ya need that much manpower then might as well not do it

[fallen osprey]

Lol yeah that's a lotta manpower.

Guess I'll be sticking to aluminum lol

[pearl juniper]

Assuming they are doing math "right", a 50% reduction in resistance would take a 30% resistance rock down to 15%. Usually that is how a percentage would be applied. That's how my spread sheet calculates it, and in general it seems to be about right. I have broken quite a few rocks that were just barely possible according to the calculator, and in fact took a while to charge. So it's not wildly off.

[strong pewter]

I have the helix 1, Stampede and Surge, having a hard time finding rocks that ARENT impossible.... kinda annoying

Easy to find cheap rocks that have nothing useful, but the second I find one with Taranite, or Bex, or Gold, it becomes impossible...

[pearl juniper]

sometimes impossible doesn't actually mean impossible. Have you tried them? Assuming so, try a different area. Average rock sizes vary between locations.

[strong pewter]

I have, stood there 100% for a bit, nothing happens

I was at ARC-L1 I think

[pearl juniper]

OK, just checking. Yeah, try a different location. ARC-L1 has a pretty high average mass index

Also try planets / moons. You get bigger clusters of rocks, with more variety of sizes. So you generally spend a bit less time flying from rock to rock.

[strong pewter]

Oh man where did you find that chart!

[pearl juniper]

That's from Redmonstergaming.com

it may be a bit out of date, the data is all server side since 4.0 so he can't easily update it, but the data for Stanton does not seem to have changed (yet).

[strong pewter]

thanks!

[pearl juniper]

I have had good luck on Lyria if you want to stick to the ArcCorp area for now

[strong pewter]

Might try the MIC areas

I didn't wanna deal with the atmosphere of on planet mining especially with how broken it is right now

[pearl juniper]

yeah, the low / no atmosphere moons are easiest usually

[strong pewter]

planet mining being broken is affecting moons right?

[pearl juniper]

ohhh, I forgot about the mineables bug that's happening right now. I don't know on that. I haven't mined this patch

[elfin rune]

Youre my hero. Could you tell me where do you find those juicy asteroids and your mole loadout? All i find its 15/20 scu rocks with t3 mats

[weak tinsel]

the big big ones i only find planet side
and i dont like asteroid mining so i have not done much

[lone tendon]

Hey just recently into mining, got a Golem and intend to use it to fund either a Vulture or a Mole, and just have 2 questions- what modules are best to use and do the 16scu ore pods grid well on ships?

[strong pewter]

How does one get into the yela belt

[sullen sentinel]

QT to yela, fly into the belt. You could QT to grim hex or miners lament and then fly away but you're probably more likely to run across players that way

[strong pewter]

Oh its around the moon got it, thought it was like Aaron Halo

Miners Lament the place to go to refine I take it?

awe wtf, I lost my argo bags that were on the ship?!?!?!?

wtf man

[sullen sentinel]

I don't think you can do anything at miners lament but i could be wrong.

[weak tinsel]

L point stations are refineries
and gateways

[sullen sentinel]

It's not a refinery, or in a lagrange point.

It's in the yela belt. I think it's actually a race track

[near swallow]

Miner's Lament is a race track as I recall, but racing missions are broken right now I believe

[elfin rune]

And how do you do it now if surface mining its broken? Do you have the 192scu build? What about lasers?

[weak tinsel]

192 build?? i did mine a bit of asteroids but gave up since i dont like flying around there

[elfin rune]

Theres a way ( exploit maybe) to increase the mole capacity to 192scu

https://youtu.be/CK4OjAdfe8k?si=KmIYDyDirdVHykGJ

[vivid river]

Grab the vulture for a lil extra diversity

[weak tinsel]

oh yeah i guess they didnt fix it
its an exploit and i do not bother

[elfin rune]

So youre mining in planets or moons this patch? I did try last night with 0 luck. All rocks bugged

[lone tendon]

Asteroid mining with the Golem has been working without issue for me, not tried planets yet not sure if it’s more profitable

[weak tinsel]

im not mining on planets or moons since its broken rn
i mined in space for a bit but its slow to find rocks so i gave up

[lone tendon]

Good idea yeah, still it’d be good to know if the Ore boxes can be stored in a cargo ship

[weak tinsel]

untill the next hotfix thats planned comes out i do not think planetside mining will work

[analog grotto]

Planetside in Pyro works fine. Stanton is server dependent and it is incredibly hit and miss

[winter garnet]

Quick little question:
I'm Headhunters-affiliated in Pyro and wanna do hauling missions. Last patch I got the Red Wind Linehaul missions, but after the reset the only hauling mission that's offered to me is the "First Haul in System" one from CfP (which I can't really do because they shoot me on sight).

Anyone know how to make the Red Wind missions show up again?

[mild pumice]

Red Wind so far for me have all been to CFP locations so maybe being CFP hostile makes you ineligible

[vivid river]

Honestly, go for the fortune when it's available in game and get yourself a polaris when possible

Pretty good combo imo for salvage

[winter garnet]

Last patch it was all Head Hunters locations for me. I think it looks at what factions you "belong" to

[mild pumice]

Hmm, that maybe explains why they're to limited locations. Do you have any rep for redwind?

You might need to share a mission to get them back.

[winter garnet]

yes, but only at Junior.
I did 1-2 missions for them and then 4.1 dropped

[mild pumice]

Might just need to get someone to share then

[winter garnet]

Alright, guess I'll try that

[lone tendon]

Lmao alright I’ll keep that in mind, though won’t it be a while before the fortune is for sale in game?

[vivid river]

Unfortunately so

But its the only salvage that safely fits in something till the starter salvagers come out

But im also not expecting those starters to hold more then 4-6scu at any given time

[hybrid spoke]

Anyone mind telling me how what exactly I have to do to get the Mole mining laser to shoot? In SCM, everything's powered, nothing shooting.

[vestal ravine]

Tap the M key?

[primal tiger]

Is the starfarer a viable profession? I know it's supposed to be able to collect & proccess fuel, but not sure if that is implemented yet, or even if being a mobile gas station is even viable outside of fleet support?

[pearl juniper]

There are two sets of redwind missions, tied to whichever faction you have positive rep with. I'm not sure why he isn't seeing any, but a couple patches back I had headhunters rep and had Red Wind missions to their locations, then switched to CFP and got red wind missions to different locations.

[mighty crystal]

yo guys has anyone had an issue with the vulture where after scraping a panel you cant use "wasd" to move the ship but everything else works normally?

got this isse rn and i cant find anything abt it

[vivid river]

you must have hit "g"

hit it again while in scrapin mode and you should be fine

[near swallow]

Refueling ships do work and is something that can be useful to players, especially with a certain quantum fuel refueling bug. That said, I'm not sure how viable it is as an actual game loop, as there are no game created refueling missions. It's a matter of being in the right shard at the right time, or possibly advertising your services through outside channels. (Like this Discord, Spectrum, Reddit, etc.) And being on-call to jump into a server to help someone.

SRV is an alternative that could help out in the same situations, but in a different way, by towing the ship to a spot where it can

If SC has it's own version of Fuel Rats, I don't know what it is.

[mighty crystal]

nah its an actual bug, tried all of that. but even still if i pressed "g" i would still be able to move my ship left and right, gimball only affects the mouse not the thrust

[vivid river]

not when in scrap or mining mode

err wait no thats the mouse

my bad

[tawdry raptor]

is there a better site then sctrade tools for trade routes? every time i do a trade from thee i make way less then it says

[mighty crystal]

np lol

[vivid river]

have you power cycled and/or left your seat and reenterd?

[mighty crystal]

ive issued a IC report for it anyway

[mighty crystal]

ive done the whole shabang lol

[vivid river]

i dont frequent its side of the page but try UEX Corp

[vivid river]

:/ welp im outta ideas then

i had the same issue a few patches ago so i dont remember how i fixed it

[mighty crystal]

yeah i had it before a couple of days ago and i dont know how i fixed it

gonna try again tmrw and see if logging on or of works

[waxen coral]

Can you do hauling missions in the polaris or not really because you always get a docking port?

[spare cloud]

Always docking, so yeah no hauling that involves any space station

[lone tendon]

With vulture having 26 (intended) SCU and the fortune having just 16 SCU, a 4SCU buffer with say 4SCU grid would be pretty fair for the Anvil(?) starter salvager that’s meant to be getting worked on now yeah

[spare cloud]

It's RSI

[lone tendon]

Ah damn I knew I was misremembering it, just seems so small for an RSI ship

[craggy tapir]

26 intended?

[spare cloud]

Was brought up on spectrum just a couple days ago

[vivid river]

26? where did you get that number from?

[craggy tapir]

12 on the grid with 13 in buffer
That's 25

[lone tendon]

13 buffer 13 grid bit you can squeeze a lot more

[craggy tapir]

12 grid

[spare cloud]

Also yeah, Vulture is 12+13(buffer)

[lone tendon]

Oh I thought the grid was 13 my bad

[craggy tapir]

Bruhhh

[vivid river]

you can fit 26 but grid wise i belive its 12

[spare cloud]

But then you're comparing Vulture with buffer and Fortune without. Seems unfair

[craggy tapir]

Look at grid sheet

[vivid river]

yea what zorgh said

both have the same buffer

[lone tendon]

Hah I’ve got that open on another tab should’ve figured it’d be in here too, I’m trying to use the discord more since I started mining

[craggy tapir]

Its 12 grid with 13 buffer

Even if
You can squeeze the same in the fortune as vulture

[lone tendon]

As it transpires I am in fact just dumb I read the complete wrong numbers, from a stat sheet, apologies

In that case the fortune’s a good bit better than I thought originally

[vivid river]

ehh id still take the vult imo

tho thr fortune the only one that sits safly in a polaris

[hybrid spoke]

Nah It was just bugged. I stored it and it fixed it.

[primal tiger]

oh, well nuts =/

[wind gazelle]

Somebody in help directed me to ask here if anybody else had this issue, doing salvage missions for CFP in pyro, the 50k, 80k and now 150k missions all have no markers, Alt F4 and switching servers didnt work. anybody know of a workaround who does them regurlaly?

120k missions and sub 50k work fine with markers.

[leaden wasp]

Anyone know where to sell Faynmaline? I have been trying everywhere

[burnt flame]

anybody know a work around Hull C not loading cargo???

[hexed sphinx]

Anyone know the best mining modules for a Golem?

[warm totem]

maybe there are no refuel game loops per say but there will probably be missions and player requests (beacons) in the future!

[near swallow]

There are occasionally players asking for a refill right now, the trick is, it's occasionally. And as there are multiple shards, it would be a matter of luck to encounter them. That's where advertising refueling services via other methods comes in. But eventually there probably will be missions, possibly even transporting fuel to outposts or something like that, to refuel them. (Not to mention how it could tie in with base building.)

[warm totem]

When CIG decides they want to really sell a refueler - they will make it an in game money machine - not sure how but yeah thats how it will happen

[neat light]

what is the recommended ship for quantanium mining and what mining head should I use?

[fossil scaffold]

What size boxes should I print in the reclaimer so I can easily get them out of the hathc?

hatch*

[vivid river]

4scu

no bigger

[fossil scaffold]

Sweet thanks! Also and idea what the best savage head is?

salvage*

[vivid river]

abrade all around tbh

its a lil less RMC vs the cinch but paired with its speed you get more bang per buck with the abrade

never use the trawler if you can help it

[fossil scaffold]

Got it thanks! Is the sinch any better than the default??

Its all I can find at NB and im lazy lol

[vivid river]

cinch gives more rmc at the cost of speed

your better going off abrade in the long run

[fossil scaffold]

Got it thank you

[dense burrow]

Are the ground nodes fixed in the hotfix client?

[nova talon]

if i go roc mining, and i bed log, what happens to my roc if its in my ship?
does it despawn and need to get claimed. or will it be there when i log back in

[maiden brook]

Question: Asking for a friend who is trying to mine in her Drake Golem. Since I dont have one, I cant really answer. Is anyone having issues trying to mine with it?

Been awhile since I have done any mining so all my knowledge is outdated to say at the least. Lol

[uneven jacinth]

oh yea its been having issue

[mild pumice]

sorry for the late reply, when you bed log everything on your ship should persist just as if you stored it in a hangar. The only thing with bed logging is that if the login fails and you end up loading at a station your ship will need to be claimed.

[nova talon]

Thx

I wasn’t aware bed logging even could fail. Is that very common?

[mild pumice]

It used to be a big problem as far as even locking you out of the game, I don't regularly bed long anymore for that reason. It might be more reliable now

[weak tinsel]

mining planet side is not the Golem's problem its the servers
try mining in L points or yela belt

[zealous stratus]

ATLS Geo or ROC for mining?

(or do they even differ? idrk, i wanna get back into mining as i havent done it in 2 yrs)

[weak tinsel]

GEO and ROC only differ in handling
GEO is easier to move around ROC has more storage

[knotty dove]

GEO can do ROC and handminable rocks

[zealous stratus]

cheers. so the geo is probably more of the go to then as the storage on the roc is relatively small anyway iirc?

[weak tinsel]

ROC is 1 SCU or more GEO is 1/8 SCU

Both can be unloaded and transfered into a crate

[zealous stratus]

🫶🫶

[weak tinsel]

or the ROC might not be able to be unloaded into a backpack but then you can just swap the gem storage if im right

[zealous stratus]

gotcha, I guess i'll just try both and see what i prefer when i get back home

tysm!

[dreamy plover]

anyone know how much the reclaimer is rn ingame?

32mil?

[vivid river]

31,752,000auec at lorville

UEX usually has reliable info like this

[mild pumice]

So the Pyro courier missions are at outposts too but only within the outpost (like the old DC missions) so none that go from A-B

also still working my way through the Junior rank for Pyro missions, there's some that aren't too bad like this one:

was a simple run in my Corsair

132k

[median anvil]

what should i be mining and where with my Prospector?

[mild pumice]

cool I guess I'll use the Mule for this lol

well it worked but I literally only had to drive across the road 😄

[fallen osprey]

I am running a golem atm and haven't had many issues. It's working pretty well. Granted you can't break asteroids above 13k mass.

Also had other minor issues non-golem related. Overall golem is a great little ship. I am looking forward to running it with a group. Just shove 2 or 3 golems into a ship and head out.

[fallen osprey]

Asteroids primarily.

[median anvil]

where and what

[fallen osprey]

I mine with a golem rn on the yela belt.

[median anvil]

why not prospector?

[fallen osprey]

Whatever i find in the yela belt lol.

[fallen osprey]

Golem had LTI, and cost 70USD with LTI... prospector is not on sale and cost 155 without insurance.

[median anvil]

heres a tip buy it in game

[fallen osprey]

Golem wasn't for sale in game and I wanted a mining ship. And I really wanted that LTI.

[median anvil]

lti?

[fallen osprey]

Life Time Insurance.

[median anvil]

u know thats only for when the game fully comes out right

[fallen osprey]

In other words, it's a ccu chain with insurance forever

[fallen osprey]

Yeah, and? They will release the game at somepoint.

[median anvil]

yeah maybe in 10 years lol

[fallen osprey]

They already said they don't plan to do more resets so.

[fallen osprey]

I mean. It's pretty close mate lol

[median anvil]

def not

[fallen osprey]

I would call this game pretty much a full game.

They want to add more.

A lot more.

[median anvil]

LMAOO

[fallen osprey]

If it's not then why play it? Lol

[median anvil]

what kinda of logic is that? just bc the game is done im not gonna play it ?

[fallen osprey]

It's a bit buggy. Even consider8ng some recent games lol.

[median anvil]

i can tell ur new to star citizen

[fallen osprey]

What's that other game that came before it? Maybe it was... ah- no man's sky.

Defn has more content than that.

[spare cloud]

Not new. Delusional

[spare cloud]

That doesn't make it a full game anyway.

[fallen osprey]

How many hours you got in?

[median anvil]

^ with how much stuff they promised i would not surprised if they are not even done with 50% of the game yet

[fallen osprey]

If you got more than 40, it's basically a full game.

[spare cloud]

How is this an argument ?

[spare cloud]

What kind of logic is this ?

Sick logic

[median anvil]

😂 bro u have to be rage baiting LMAO

[fallen osprey]

We play to have fun. Lol. I am enjoying it.

[spare cloud]

Whatever, take this convo to #star-citizen lol. Nothing #industrial-professions related here

[fallen osprey]

Regardless.

Where do we mine in Pyro anyway?

[median anvil]

one more thing it's an alpha then still comes beta then early access this game is nowhere near done goodbye

[fallen osprey]

Nowhere near done /= not a finished game.

[median anvil]

?

[fallen osprey]

Anyway, I haven't mined in Pyro yet, but was told it has more valuable stuff than in Stanton. I have been operating out of Yela mostly.

Anyone got advice for mining in Pyro?

[dreamy plover]

Just bought my first Reclaimer and loaded up on Cruz, im ready to not come back to station for weeks lol

Go to retrieve it, bugs, 30 min claim immediately 🥲 lol

[plain comet]

quick question guys does the srv have any use towing or is the

cuz pyro brings it back

but like is there even enough ships in pyro to do such a thing with align and mine

[sullen sentinel]

It could be useful if you're into salvage i guess, tow wrecked or abandoned ships to a safe place to be picked apart, or saving people who have run out of fuel by towing them to a station

[mild pumice]

just fits lol (15x8 + 1x2)

[weak tinsel]

ore is the same, mining is the same, the valuable ores have a 2% or 3% chance of spawn and are priced like quantanium so there is really not much difference
all of the pyro refineries have the same bad bonuses, so imo refining and mining is easier done in Stanton
only reason you would want to mine in Pyro is that the planetside rocks work actually unlike in stanton

[fallen osprey]

Oh- I see. So just stay in Stanton then. Where do I find ores like tin and ice tho?

Also haven't seen any Tungston or others

[weak tinsel]

some ores are Pyro only, but tin ice and tungsten are maybe 300aUEC/SCU
tungsten can be found in stanton but the other are pyro only

use this for a good guie
https://regolith.rocks/

some data is missin in the ore location sheet, just change it to Epoch 4.0 and it is mostly the same
this is a fully player run site and organisation so the data is from in game scanning not datamining so it is not 100% accurate and updated slowly

[fallen osprey]

They are only like 300 / SCU?

I thought tin was ~20k

[weak tinsel]

for ores value this data sheet is a bit old but still a good reference material
it lacks the new one rest can be found here https://uexcorp.space/

[weak tinsel]

only during Supply or Die event during 4.0.2

forgor the datasheet

[peak wyvern]

I sent refined ore to ship, brought it up to hanger, stored the ship again, then later the ship came back with no ore, but it did keep my atls, is this a hit and miss bug or consistent?

[weak tinsel]

what did you do first
store and take out
or take ore

[peak wyvern]

It was already stored ship, had used it for cargo missions, had the atls in it. Then sent refined ore to it. Then retrieved it but did not leave to sell, but the ore was there. Today retrieved again and it was gone.

[fallen osprey]

Wha? It cost like 2k to refine like 32 SCU of T2 ores...

How do I even make money with a golem😅

[weak tinsel]

32SCU of that ore will be around 30 to 50k if we are talking the 2,5k ores

refining 96SCU of the 7.5k ores can be over 50k aUEC btw
but yields like 800k after selling

[weak tinsel]

slow unless you have a chain of orders going

[mild pumice]

jeez when they said it was a dangerous route they didn't lie, 7 hostile NPC ships at the outpost lol

[weak tinsel]

try store and retrieve again
might just made the ore invisible

[fallen osprey]

I got like 10 orders qued atm

[weak tinsel]

yeah then just gotta wait the 12h sadly

mining is a slow loop requiring some adjustments

cuz rn it can be much more profitable to mine the new gems than ore

[peak wyvern]

When we have our own bases with refineries and crafting that needs specific ores and ore qualities, mining will be a fun game

[fallen osprey]

I see. So atm I got 32 SCU Aluminum and 46 titanium.

How much would like 64 scu of Aluminum go for?

[weak tinsel]

check by yourself

[wicked granite]

Does an ATLS geo fit in an Intrepid ?

[weak tinsel]

most likely no but im only saying that based on SC site screenshots of the ship

[zealous stratus]

!fit

[jolly dagger]

Can it fit?

Please see title linked Google Sheet for capital ship fitment indexes.

Credit to RubenSaurus

[zealous stratus]

hm

[knotty dove]

tottaly ATLS on there somewere

[zealous stratus]

hence my hm lmao i was surprised its not on there

both intrepid and atls arent on there so thats great

[fallen osprey]

I was asking because I am not sure my estimate is correct

Like even ballpark.

[weak tinsel]

well then gimme a sec

[fallen osprey]

Yeah I am sorry I had to ask i just wanna make sure I am using it right.

[weak tinsel]

18560 aUEC for 64SCU of Aluminium

[fallen osprey]

Yeah defn not using it right😅

Thank you.

That doesn't seem profittable😅

Cargo hauling 1scu boxes can net ~250k every 30 minutes or so.

Maybe 45

[weak tinsel]

selec the good
select Sell
sort by price
i selected the a18 tdd since i mine around a18 so its easy to sell there

[weak tinsel]

you were mining the worst possible ore so makes sense

[fallen osprey]

Yeah probally.

[weak tinsel]

mining the 2.5k or 7.5k ores would be much better
but yes it can be more profitable to haul or trade but i can not be bothered to move boxes for 3hours
mining is much more enjoyable

like for example
selling 64SCU of Borase which is a faily common ore will get you 200k aUEC and getting that amount is quite easy

[nova talon]

aberdeen still best for roc mining?
any tips for scanning for the right rocks to mine?

oh. and do i need an SCU container still? cause i heard the rock has a bag thingie

[weak tinsel]

after 4.1 i have no idea whats where
all i can say that Fuego in pyro has feynaline and its the i think best non hathor material for ROC

[nova talon]

i dont really wanna go to pyro. sounds too scary for me rn hah

[weak tinsel]

the ROC bag thing i think is detachable so swapping them is a option, if no then having a couple SCU boxes will help to have more capacity

[weak tinsel]

its dead af if you are not close to the star

[nova talon]

sounds good. thanks

[weak tinsel]

so chill at Pyro IV and Gaslight station

i have not seen a single soul in past 4 days

[nova talon]

oh cool. thanks

[nova talon]

does the roc benefit from any modules

or can it even have any

[weak tinsel]

not possible to mod it
also the gadgets are unnecessary if even they work on gem rocks

[nova talon]

ok thx

[mild pumice]

I've been in Pyro quite a bit working on the hauling missions and doing a few bounties, not had any trouble at all.

[next temple]

Does surface mining still not work?

[weak tinsel]

in stanton yes
in pyro it works im mining rn

funky rock for show

[nimble cliff]

I'm looking for a laser operator for my MOLE. I'm offering a 40% cut of the profits.

[weak tinsel]

#looking-for-session

not here for this
mods bonk

[nimble cliff]

ty

[proud pumice]

Most of the pvp griefers are over in Stanton at the moment because 95% of people are over there for the new event. Few people still running CZ and exec hangers due to the low pop. But past that pyro has been mostly dead if you avoid those two spots

[nova talon]

Ok. That’s good to know

Is the pyro surface I need to be on hot? Cause I invested in the heat resist suit cause aberdeen. And I have a solid 8k. Soooo

[plain shoal]

Where in Pyro is the best to gem mine?

[proud pumice]

Not to my knowledge, but most of the time I was on surface for a fast kill mission or I was mining with the mole for SOD and never noticed anything, I'm sure someone will have a better answer tho

[weak tinsel]

fuego

[nova talon]

ok thx

[weak tinsel]

i ROC mined on Fuego and its fine 19C so no special suit needed

on other planets i do not know
you can google them and check their temp

[nova talon]

ok thx

[blissful flume]

Hey guys where is the best price to sell construction material at a city not a space station. Can land reclaimer in space yet

[vestal ravine]

Ignis is good for Roc gems...

[weak tinsel]

Check on UEX

[gentle crow]

Can someone help me please, when im scanning for fenynmaline what numbers am I scanning for I know 620 was for Hadanite and Dolvine is it the same for Fen?

[raw elbow]

Right, im going for a Vulture, any recommendations of parts?

[vivid river]

2x abrade for 1 set
and make sure you keep the tractor for the second

if your lookin at spendin cash tho id get the fortune and polaris as its a great combo at this time for salvo

[raw elbow]

For now im using in-game money

[mild pumice]

1000 bucks to go salvaging lol

[floral spindle]

I'm having trouble getting my head around trading. Seems like I can always make more money running hauling jobs than I can even fully loading the hold and running commodities. What am I missing?

[vivid river]

i wanted a ship to lug my vult around but had to settle with the fortune instead

[nova talon]

i cant mine this. but idk why. its like theyre bugged. i dont get any scan on it

[floral spindle]

Planet/moon rocks are generally bugged for now, asteroids are pretty safe at the moment.

[nova talon]

ah. thats too bad.
i have no money cause i invested in the roc to start.
rip

thx tho. ig ill do bunkers

[indigo patio]

hey - where can i find caranite?

[strong pewter]

Hey all, question, Why is quant showing up red?

[sharp swift]

Because it goes boom 25 minutes after you've collected the first fragment of it

[strong pewter]

ty didnt know htat

[sharp swift]

You'll get a warning on your display about it and a timer

[raw elbow]

What is the Fracture mode in the Vulture?

[strong pewter]

Alt+Left Click

well M to get into it

[raw elbow]

Yes but what is it

what does it do

[strong pewter]

Breaks apart the asteroid/rock

[sharp swift]

Ship*

[raw elbow]

Or ship

[sharp swift]

Only ship, not rock

[strong pewter]

OMG sorry dude, im stupid, im mining as im reading htis

[sharp swift]

So ships can be broken apart into smaller chunks so they can be turned into CM

After fracturing, each piece of the ship will tell you how many CM SCUs they are

You can also fracture to divvy up the pieces between vultures to scrape for RMC before breaking down the part for CM

[strong pewter]

How do i read this, how much is 962 of Quant in SCU terms?

[raw elbow]

Right, so if i dont scrape em, they will give more CM?

[sharp swift]

CM is unaffected by RMC presence

[raw elbow]

so scrape, then fracture and leave no traces behind

[sharp swift]

Yep

Important note, you can only fracture ships, not the panels (signatures as multiples of 2000)

[raw elbow]

panels?

[sharp swift]

Yeah, you can hunt the open space seas for panel clusters

so no need for contracts or anything like that

[raw elbow]

right

Interesting, and way less risky than mining

also way less boring, afaik

[strong pewter]

I used to salvage, then I bought prospector, now I mine a bunch, setup some long cheap work orders, then salvage while i wait

[sour folio]

has anyone tried ship salvaging for components & RMC? is it still completely terrible money? I remember last time I played salvaging RMC from player ships were bad momey

[pearl juniper]

Centi SCU. So that's 9.62 SCU, which should round up to 10 when you collect it.

[strong pewter]

thank you, does it always round to the neartest whole? so 9.2 = 9? etc?

[strong pewter]

From what I experienced in the past week, panels was the way to go for pure profit still.

[floral spindle]

If I'm remembering right, it rounds up for container sizes but you still get the amount that was refined.

[strong pewter]

ohhhhhh I see

[floral spindle]

So like if you had 9.62 SCU you'll get 10 SCU (eg. one 8 and one 2) but that 2 SCU container will have 1.62 in it.

[strong pewter]

Got it, thanks!

[raw elbow]

Okay so, RMC is obtained through the hull of the ships with the Vulture? Construction Material sits through the internal parts?

[vivid river]

kinda

[vivid river]

so when you activate mining mode for the ships first time its starts off in hull scraping mode, this is where you get RMC
i belive the control is 'L ALT + W' , (correct me if im wrong), this will activate fracture mode where you will than left click to activate and brake the offending ship apart. then simple right click to change to disintegration mode to eat the broken-up ship to gather CM
'L ALT + S' will put you back in hull scrapping mode

now it is entirely possible that i switched the "W" and "S" around but everything else is the same

[raw elbow]

Its fine, So through the hull its RMC, internals, CM

[vivid river]

sure? i refer to internals such as the coolers, jump drive, etc

CM is more of the frame of the ship rather than the internals

[raw elbow]

i saw that RMC is more valuable, so just strip the hull and move on?

[coarse ember]

in a vulture yeah
if you're in a reclaimer it's more worth your time to scrape one side then frac and disentigrate the rest for CM since you have alot of space to stick crates in

[waxen coral]

I keep getting "Failed Waiting for pending result items pending transfer 00:00:00" when trying to sell gold and stims to ARC-L1. Doing something wrong, or it just doesnt work?

[drowsy kettle]

yo they fix ground mining in stanton yet?

[main grove]

anyone figured out a fix for the stuck refined material stuck to the ship grid?

[main grove]

Ok to be safe I think the best thing is to melt or upgrade my mining ship until this gets fixed next year.

[vestal ravine]

A friend and I stripped a C2 with a Reclaimer last night. I think the RMC amount has been nerfed since we made 267,730.00 on RMC versus 318,000.00 on the CM. Thoughts??

[elfin rune]

Really mining planetside in pyro works?

Its a long trip to fail miserably

[inland spire]

only advice I've heard is to make sure you retrieve and store your ship before collecting the order

but once stuck, it's stuck for good

[weak tinsel]

works

and not a long trip
only a long ish one to sell

[main grove]

am I mining wrong with the Prospector. On one trip I get say 6% any of the maiin materials. Should I be getting much higher percentage.

[weak tinsel]

Le what ?

[weak tinsel]

To avoid the cargo stuck bug

Assuming you do not have cargo stuck to your ship, if you do claim a new one
Go into your hangar
Retrieve the ship while you are in hangar looking at it go up
Give it a moment
Store the ship still waiting looking at it go, you may only leave when the warning light band goes down and normal light shows up
Worth checking if the ships is stored and not to claim since that can also happen

Now after this i have not seen the Detaching bug appear in my many cargo runs

To be sure it's a good practice to repeat this each time
And there is nothing you can do about that cargo, might as well count it as voided instantly

[naive vine]

Is there anyway to bring back a soft deathed ship while still in space?

[vivid river]

Not really, as you generally will have more cm vs rmc

[weak tinsel]

nope
soft dead = you dont die and cargo is intact

[strong pewter]

Do yo usell refined ores and stuff at commodities?

[weak tinsel]

at TDD or other places
google up UEX corp for a chart of material prices

[main grove]

wonder if there is any plans to release a ground vehicle that can mine large rocks that the Prospector can.

[strong pewter]

I did, just wondering if all stations that have a commodities console take all refined ores? and I prob have to take them out of the ship right?

[weak tinsel]

refineries do not buy ore or refined material, or for sure do not buy the better ones

refineries ale L point stations

[strong pewter]

Well, im just now finding out I cant use any of my tractor beams so I can't even unload my refined ores anyway......

[weak tinsel]

In what way can you not unload ?

[strong pewter]

The tractor beam on the gun and the vehicle are just toggling on and off

[weak tinsel]

From my knowledge they never mentioned such craft but it would be cool to see massive rovers eat rocks

[weak tinsel]

Do it flicker with a red Detaching text?

If so you have been added to my list of ppl who's cargo got eaten due to the same bug
Number 27

[weak tinsel]

This is a precaution
Your cargo is lost sadly

[weak oyster]

unverified salvage worth doing? i have a reclaimer

[strong pewter]

Uhm im not sure now, I closed the game cuz im annoyed lol. It just flickers on and off, but the biggest containers can get picked up by the tractor beam, anyhing smaller than the largest one it wont, just flickers.

[weak tinsel]

This I have not seen
Did you take out multiple orders to one ship ?

[strong pewter]

Uhm, I placed 2 orders onto the ship, one from one station another from another, then went to another station to sell.

[weak tinsel]

Ahh

[fallen osprey]

Hey yall, wo I loaded 2 orders onto my C1 and I am trying to unload them...

[weak tinsel]

So what most likely happened is you glitches out the first order and the other one is good

[fallen osprey]

But tractor beam are not working.

They keep breaking.

[strong pewter]

Oh great!

[weak tinsel]

@fallen osprey
Have you done these steps before taking the orders ?

And when trying to tractor beam the crates is it flickering with Detaching ?

[fallen osprey]

Yeah... those 2 orders lost then?

[fallen osprey]

I did not.

Never mined before this and only manually loaded

[strong pewter]

This blows ass man

[weak tinsel]

If the ship was not manually stored in the hangar prior to taking the orders out then yes they are sadly gone for good

[strong pewter]

"Stability" yay

[fallen osprey]

Wheres the self- destruction button on a C1 again?

[raw barn]

i hate it when i enter the hull c of boundless darkness and misery

[fallen osprey]

So from now on, I am going to need go to my C1... take it out, store it and then go to the refinery to get the orders and then go get the C1 again.

And then unload it...

That fking sucks.

[weak tinsel]

Yeah
But if you were to just freshly land on a station and store the ship when in hangar it is also good to go

[strong pewter]

The amount of fucking frustration is real

[weak tinsel]

The main part is to physically be present while the ship stores

[weak tinsel]

Agreed
I have lost over 2mil in 3 separate orders to this before figuring it out

[strong pewter]

I mean its not even fucking worth it, I salvaged to save up for the prospector so I can mine, and now I cant even fucking go that route.... Hauling is fucking boring, im tired of salvaging.... time to put the game down... a fucking gain

[fallen osprey]

I still haven't figured out how to make mining profitable lol

I am gonna try to sell some material today.

[weak tinsel]

Well beside the little juggle of the ship it's fine
Mining in asteroids or in pyro works so it's all good imo
Just gotta calm down and try again sadly

[inland spire]

the only reliably profitable loop I've found so far is salvaging

[strong pewter]

But does the same issue persist regarding the storing of the ship and getting my refined stuff in pyro? cuz thats the whole issue.. not the mining itself for me

[inland spire]

it's also more or less relaxing, as opposed to most other game loops I've tried so far, which have been consistently infuriating

[weak tinsel]

Yeah the issue is attached to auto loading cargo
It's a parto of mining so its semi attached to it

All you gotta do is juggle the ship up and down and it's good to go

[strong pewter]

Yeah thats okay, rather not play honestly, shit takes long enough to do as it is, now I have to worry about juggling my ship up and down and making sure im looking at it at the right angle so it doesn't get mad and i lose all that fucking work. Appreciate your help though, thank you

[inland spire]

no matter what you do, unless you're 100% on top of your game, you're always going to miss that one crucial inexplicable ritual that makes something work instead of blowing up

[tribal garden]

Best way to find caves to mine in?

[vestal ravine]

Do you mean the Tar Pits mission giver at Crusader? Yes those are very good. Just be careful about the clock.

[weak tinsel]

some online tools can help
there is one with a map and gides on how to find caves

[mild pumice]

Verseguide

[tribal garden]

Thank you guys

[lament wigeon]

is there anything you can do with a bunch of undeliverable cargo from a hauling mission? i figured i would be able to sell in pyro but its all marked as "high risk" and they wont take it

[weak tinsel]

its most marked as stolen
some "black market" sites in stanton will most likely buy it, brios braker yard and some others
they also purhase drugs so googling up where to sell drugs will lead you to them

[orchid oxide]

Hey guys, so I mined, refined materials and the materials I am hauling in 2 different shipments, the first one I was able to bring down to area18 TDD and sell just fine, however this second haul shows in my ship, but shows nothing at the TDD is this a bug? could I be doing something wrong?

[quiet night]

Anyway of detaching cargo from a ships grid? it seems to be stuck rather well

[weak tinsel]

to both of you @orchid oxide and @quiet night
is the cargo showind a flashig Detaaching label when tractored ?

[quiet night]

aye

[orchid oxide]

I dont believe I had to manually do anything the first time

[weak tinsel]

then sadly the cargo is bugged out and might as well count as voided

[quiet night]

TDD wont see it for me, so i thought id try and remove it manually, clearly my ship has other plans

[weak tinsel]

To avoid the cargo stuck bug

Assuming you do not have cargo stuck to your ship, if you do claim a new one
Go into your hangar
Retrieve the ship while you are in hangar looking at it go up
Give it a moment
Store the ship still waiting looking at it go, you may only leave when the warning light band goes down and normal light shows up
Worth checking if the ships is stored and not to claim since that can also happen

Now after this i have not seen the Detaching bug appear in my many cargo runs

To be sure it's a good practice to repeat this each time
And there is nothing you can do about that cargo, might as well count it as voided instantly

this has been here since 4.0 sadly

[orchid oxide]

that for me as well?

[weak tinsel]

this bug is currently being worked on

[weak tinsel]

it is overall a issue with Auto loadig cargo

both refinery orders and just trading

this is a precaution on how to avoid it

[quiet night]

be handy if they just turned off the option for it if they know it doesnt work

[inland spire]

turn off the option for what? disable collection of refinery orders? I'm pretty sure more people will be pissed off if nobody can collect refined material

[quiet night]

auto loading, if it bugs when doing it what is the point in collecting the order?

[weak tinsel]

yeah the issue is with how they made the new personal hangars work

[inland spire]

thing is, auto loading is not an option; there's no alternative at the moment, that's the only way to collect refinery orders

[quiet night]

well if they can make cargo spawn out of thin air and come up in a lift, the same could be done for refinery orders, its the same thing is it not?

[weak tinsel]

you can avoid the bug with a simple solution os there is no point in removing what doesnt work
a simple warning would work
but then they never changed the out of stock to Overstock error on trade consoles

[inland spire]

they can and eventually they likely will, but that's very different from "just turn off the option"

[weak tinsel]

if they let us store from refinery to station yes
but it need to be going into a ship

turning of cargo grids would piss off everyone
you learning it the hard way loosing one cargo load is not that bad

[inland spire]

I assume at some point refinery orders will simply go into station storage, and then it will be up to you what to do with them

tbf they should have some sort of an alert system where they can pop up warnings when somebody is about to walk into a long-standing bug

[quiet night]

i never lost any cargo, was helping a new player earn some cash

[weak tinsel]

but this requres CIG to put in effort
we dont do that here mate

[inland spire]

while I understand it's an alpha game, it's probably not very productive to piss off your huge mass of unpaid testers

scratch that, huge mass of paying testers

[quiet night]

it does seem to piss off the new players a lot

[inland spire]

well at least that bug is marked as "fixed in 4.1.1"

but I won't believe it until I see it

[weak tinsel]

no mater what they say imma stick to the juggle

like i do with other bugs reported as fixed

[grave quest]

So i buy the 50k contract for salvage for a group of ships with cargo but it does not give me the coordinates. Am i missing something or is it just broken?

[quiet bridge]

where's a good place to learn mining with the golem?

I mean in game

[wispy shard]

Best non combat way to earn money as a new player?

[slate spruce]

Depends on what ship you have. Hauling is ridiculously profitable, if you have a big enough cargo grid.

[vivid river]

mining (bugged but still playable in areas), hauling (i hear theres issues), salvage (not many issues, but issues non-the less)

mining find a miner somewhere in here for good loadouts, and salvage just have abrade and 1 tractor beam on the ship

hauling you can use any ship with grid space, the more the better

i like the Zeus mk2 CL (medium) and Hercules C2 (large) when i decide to haul

for salvo, i love the vultre but currently using a fortune - polaris combo for better transport and cargo room (vult and fortune are same weight-class as very similar grid size just the vult has 2x heads per loadout and fortune only has 1 per loadout, both ships have 2 loadouts)

[wispy shard]

Auora but can rent a ship

[slate spruce]

Then I'd say go for hauling around microTech. The trick is to stack small planetary deliveries with the same origin/destination, and avoid mining/research outposts (the elevators there are often bugged). So mainly from Tressler to distribution centers. You can carry the rookie/junior stuff in rental Cutlass black, and then it peaks at member with rental Taurus. There are 6 stackable member contracts, all from Tressler to New Babbage, Greycat IV and Sakura Sun, each for ~95k. One such round-trip takes about an hour.

[fallen osprey]

Would not recommend mining. It's entertaining but hard to be profitable. Well mainly with ship mining.

[fallen osprey]

Hauling is pretty boring. But very easy. And quite profitable. Hell load up on 6 planetary delivery missions (50k each) and it will take you like 20 minutes to load from all the 1SCU boxes and the flight is like 1 minute. And unloading like 20 minutes. And you can make 300k every like 30-50 minutes.

Less you get real good at unloading 1SCU boxes.

.

As for the ships you want. A cutlass black will do er. A C1 will do er better. And a Zues mk2 cl will do er best. All 3 got a tractor beam which is accessible from the copilot seat. But the zues you can fly your ship from said seat which is super nice.

So Zues is best by far.

Now... medium missions and up... the zues is a pain in the ass. Because the grid is kinda crap.

[sour folio]

I would say salvaging but Im not sure you can rent a drake vulture. Doing 2-3 site contracts will get you enough money to rent a cutty black & a ROC. Go mining with that. Its prety good money at the start & what I use to do before I outright bought a salvaging, mining & hauling ship

[sour folio]

The grid is the only reason I've been thinking about upgrading my zeus

[fallen osprey]

Ya know i upgraded to a Taurus and I wasn't a huge fan.

It's a good ship but

[sour folio]

But I have a really nice paint for it so I probably wlll never upgrade. As a solo player I only need a zues for moving RMC or mining loads to a sell destination. But I am trying to level up bounty hunting since its half decent with the right loadout, then just take cargo from the ships I soft death

[fallen osprey]

The Zues is super friendly with its beam. The Taurus has a manned tractor beam turrent which I don't like. And it's location seems odd because of how the elevator works.

The part I despise about the Taurus is that it uses elevators.

[sour folio]

Taraus is meh, I weirdly enough thought about actually going for the Corsair. Since its a ship I've always liked. Or even for worse, going for a hull A and waiting for the HULL-B

[fallen osprey]

Fk elevators.

[fallen osprey]

I was not a fan of the Hull A.

I upgraded to a C1 and it's way nicer.

I like ramp access.

[sturdy summit]

Where does one sell refined minerals in pyro?

[zealous stratus]

seconding the hauling recommendations (good money but only fun if you have a good video to watch on the side imo). Works great around arccorp in my experience as it has tons of direct planetary missions one can do quickly for an easy 600k/hr very early on

[vivid river]

as you have gathered with everyone else your best bet is to rent some type of hauling ship with decent grid space for now and then decide if you want to continue hauling or switch between either mining or salvo. for ships to buy/rent "uexcorp . space" (dunno if links are ok here) is 90% reliable on where you can find where certain ships are as well as things like grid space, price, etc due to it being player maintained, and its maintained pretty well

happy travels friend ~neighborhood salvager~

[raw elbow]

Is it possible to strip a Catterpillar as a Vulture in less than an hour?

[vivid river]

dunno bout time wise but you just wont be able to eat the catt to get CM

[raw elbow]

i dont need that

i want RMC

Its better to sell RMC, CM is useless for now

[mild pumice]

Even if you can't finish you can just abandon it

You still get the RMC

[grand frigate]

I don't see people recommending the freelancer max. Is there a reason ? I know it doesn't have a tractor beam but 120 scu for a medium ship is nice no ? Or maybe not so good to buy in game but a good ship to pledge ?

[mild pumice]

You can rent one in game at cargo decks and try for yourself. Part of the cargo grid is inaccessible but you can stack extra boxes off grid by the doors to make up for it.

It's an older ship and it feels that way too but it's still decent at what it does

[vivid river]

i just dont like the pilots view

any of the freelancers for that matter

[dusty magnet]

anyone having problems selling at your home planet TDD?

[dusty magnet]

I have a freelancer max and I like it. simple and easy and works.

Could definitly use a pass to add storage, fix the door, etc.. but it's a good simple hauler

[vivid river]

cant wait for the recl to get its most well deserved make over

[raw shell]

any tips on where to find quant in pyro?

[warm totem]

to mine or do you mean like SCU boxes of it?

Mining Quantanium, I have always had good luck over on lyria, then refine at arcL2 - as far as finding boxes of it, you can sometime level up in bounties and get some

regarding pyro - I dunno, I had some luck at pyro IV

[eager ingot]

Hi, what am I supposed to do?

[strong pewter]

Nothing just a bug

[eager ingot]

Should I destroy the ship to make it works properly?

[strong pewter]

Theres a whole write up in here on how to deal with that bug, im not a fan of it

[eager ingot]

Thank you, I just logged out

[strong pewter]

Man this shit is just confusing, I sell refined ore at commodity places but I go to sell and

[pearl juniper]

are you at a station commodity terminal? Other than the stations in Pyro, you need to sell stuff like that at the TDD on the planets for the most part.

[strong pewter]

Yeah I was, theres no way to know that in game, kinda sucks, just have to make sure I go to a city from now on

[pearl juniper]

yeah, there's a lot of stuff that you just have to know, or ask someone. The game needs more ingame information, that's for sure.

[vivid river]

It should be in the tutorial then

[raw shell]

mining

[pearl juniper]

man, if they put all the missing information in the tutorial it would be 6 hours long

[devout briar]

I just need friends to mine with

i love doing it either way though.

[elfin rune]

The spawn points work? I began to farm magnus - everus but backspace in everus made me spawn in everus clinic. Any help?

[elfin rune]

I have the spawn point in magnus ofc

[weak oyster]

almost there

[elfin rune]

How did you rank up member? Im looking for alternative routes

[weak oyster]

i did the ones where you had to deliver to multiple locations and tried to pick same ones if i could for same locaton

i used a C2 for ship

[mild pumice]

For member rank you can stack 6 missions that go to the same 3 locations on Microtech

I'm trying to level up the Pyro ones but damn it's slow going, no quick local jobs, everything is the other side of the system and their medium junior hauls are like 300scu, literally makes no sense for tiny outposts lol

Put feedback on spectrum and just got crickets and tumbleweed

[weak oyster]

im doing the missions on everus harbor mostly now

[mild pumice]

Yeah there's similar missions at Hurston too with the DCs

I used to switch and alternate

[weak oyster]

was thinking getting the Hull C ingame should i or it might glitch or something

[elfin rune]

Those are " member "contracts? I dont care about cash i just want the rep grind to be faster

[mild pumice]

Yeah they are at member level. Small local drops to 3 locations, stack 3 to 6 missions depending how much space you have, takes around 45 mins to do 6 if you sort the cargo first. I did them in my Corsair and it's a massive chunk of rep per run

I think 4 or 5 runs cleared the member rank

[elfin rune]

Thanks, will take a look

[mild pumice]

IIRC the missions are grouped together around the bottom of the list and pay about 70-90k, they are 6 different metals I think makes it easy to track them if you have a little notepad with how much of each commodity goes where

[elfin rune]

Copy, are those local contracts? Does surface elevators work?

[mild pumice]

Take the ones that are for distribution centers as they're reliable, I used the hangars due to the amount of sorting btw

I think they go to 2x DC and NB

how my grind is going...

I got about 3/4 through Senior before the 4.0 wipe so I'm determined to actually hit Master this time

[weak oyster]

contracts good at senior?

[mild pumice]

At the risk of disappointment, they're not really time/effort/reward effective you just do them because you enjoy the loop. There's no direct or local missions, they are all medium solar 3 drop 300-400scu (x16scu) and take around an hour for 300k

As I understand it Master are the same too

when you take into consideration you can stack 6x local direct rookie missions and earn 300k in 30 mins it's a shame, the loading time here is most of the problem and there's not enough meat on the bone to hire a helper

If both players got the full pay then it would make a diference for sure

from a rep point of view you're better off stacking 3x experienced rank missions for 6k rep vs 1x senior for 4k rep

[weak oyster]

yea and after the changes you need to be same or higher rank to share the contract

[mild pumice]

I'm doing experience now for my rep

[weak oyster]

i guess after its the HULL C that pays more per trip

[mild pumice]

there's one Hull C mission in Senior that pays 711k so not really much more, I'm also hoping there's Hull C mission/s in Master as that might make the grind worth it

I mean I enjoy the hauling missions so it's not really a grind but the rep is very slow when you get to senior, something like 60 missions to get from Senior to Master

[weak oyster]

im still 9 mill away from hull c

[mild pumice]

that what you're saving up for?

[weak oyster]

yea so i can make more cause i have c2 and ironclad so that would make sense

[mild pumice]

the only thing I will say is the Hull C missions only work like 50/50 and most of the time don't load all the cargo so will be short at drop off, but you can submit for partial rewards (just never submit if it shows 0 cargo delivered as you probably already know this resets all your rep back to ineligible lol)

[weak oyster]

yea i read about it

i can either get it or wait for ironclad

i wanted to get the starlancer max but just for the shake of having it cause i had but upgrade its ccu xd

[mild pumice]

Starlancer Max is a nice ship but annoyingly a lot of the medium hauls at a the higher ranks are for 300-400scu so wont fit, I'm assuming you have a caterpillar as loaner for your Ironclad? I do those in the Cat. There's a few hauls for around 260scu that will fit comfortably in the Starlancer tho.

[weak oyster]

yea id have the catterpillar but havent applied it yet cause it goes C2>Prowler>Ironclad

max is nice but the middle walkway and its speed kills it when it has almost the same as ironclad and that is much bigger

[slim lance]

just found a good asteroid, but 35k mass and i only got prospector. is it even possible to mine such heavy rocks?

or should i go to planet for mining with it?

[mild pumice]

those are for a crewed MOLE really, I think you have more luck on planets (if they're working) as the clusters usually have at least a few rocks you can break

@weak oyster you inspired me to do a Hull C run!

[slim lance]

ye it feels like i cant break any single asteroid with actually good materials sadly

[spare cloud]

With up to 20-30% resistance with a solo MOLE, doable rock.

[weak tinsel]

Try looking for rocks on Pyro V moons
I have hand no issues mining there and its peaceful and empty so no need to worry about pvp
And by stations also I was calm this far and it's been a couple days going around there

[mild pumice]

gits take almost 200k of my money because they didn't give me all the cargo lol

still for the effort I'll take the 500k 🙂

[weak oyster]

oh it does that

[median anvil]

best mole setup? anyone got erkul link

[mild pumice]

works for the smaller interstellar missions too by the looks of it, just loaded this:

it made me load twice and gave me a couple of extra boxes so I wonder if I needed to do a second load last time as well

yeah this one completed 🙂

[weak oyster]

oh nice

[mild pumice]

managed to get the big one done, took a bit of faffing had to load and unload twice to get the full amount to deliver and manually submit the mission so a bit janky but I'm half way through Senior now with the help of these ha ha. Also made around 1.5mil today in my session

[elfin rune]

I miss so much the old beryl cargo trips

I hate manual loading

[mild pumice]

you can still pay to load for A-B station cargo runs I guess

My main issue is with all the bugs and issues I wont invest my credits in cargo, I'll only do haulage missions

Otherwise I would do runs from outposts and happily load my Cat with 16x24scu boxes lol

[vestal ravine]

Last night we scored the Hammerhead on the Tar Pits mission but the Geo gems on Daymar were glitched I did not try a reload.

[median anvil]

anyone have a mole setup ?

[knotty dove]

anyone has sell prices for new ROC/hand minables?

[median anvil]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[weak tinsel]

gimme a moment

something like this would work
i personally only use the main helix and a hofstede with no mods cuz im lazy
active modules also can be fitted i dont like them

[median anvil]

thanks are active modules single use like after their charges are done how do i swap them out ?

will restock refill them?

[weak tinsel]

afaik restock does not refill you need do add them in the mod menu
they have uses depending on the module
upon activating a module there is a timer on it for example some last 60 seconds and have 5 uses

all stats are listed on erkul
if im not mistaken all the active modules are better than passive but more expensive and require restock
too much of a hassle imo

[stray isle]

I didn’t realize you could stack passive modules like that

[weak tinsel]

you can also stack Active from my knowlage but ppl seem to disagree on that part

i didnt test it cuz i cant be bothered to

[austere canyon]

so uh. my maxlift wont lift stuff
and i have crimestat so i can get a new one
what do i do

[weak tinsel]

what stuff can it not lift
autloaded cargo or refinery order ?

[nova talon]

how much do high rank cargo missions pay?
I cant decide if its worth ranking cargo ranks because the time it takes to un/load the ship vs ranking pve bounties cause those def go faster

i have a constelation tarus. so i can hold a lot

[weak tinsel]

from the contracts i have seen its like around 600SCU cargo for like 500k? thats only quoting my vauge memory of screenshots here

[sonic fiber]

Turn yourself in criminal!

[nova talon]

ok thats pretty cool. id have to get a bigger ship eventually then. but i plan on that anyway

[mild pumice]

XP doubles each rank as does the amount of XP required to fill that rank, very similar to bounties. So it would take two member rank missions to get the same XP as one experienced rank mission and so on.

Sorry I misread, 1 sec

[weak tinsel]

Rank doubles each rank
rank xp needed you mean ?

[mild pumice]

So senior missions pay 280k to 330k but take about 40mins to 1hr

[mild pumice]

Yeah

[nova talon]

yea. but thats better than say, 3 20 min 50k MRT bounties

and, if i end up LFGing for someone whos got high rank cargo, thats faster lvl up, etc

[weak tinsel]

hrt can have loot higher ranks more of it
usually its 1-5 quant and some slam
can easly be 200k for one mission

[nova talon]

ah ok.

[weak tinsel]

well not easly, its random af

[nova talon]

eh. idk. im hoping to get around to it all eventually ofc. but yknow

i think cargo will net faster

what about non-bounty cargo trading? are there any crazy high trade routes? idk what an average net would be. i dont know the best site to check buy/sell routs

[weak tinsel]

for this check !uex
it has a rout planner for trading

hmm diffrent command

dis
https://uexcorp.space/

[nova talon]

thx

[shadow tree]

Can anybody help me with a erkul build for a mole?

[vivid river]

@shadow tree

[shadow tree]

Oh nice, what about other parts like the Powerplant?

and coolers?

[vivid river]

Ask @weak tinsel, his loadout

Though they don't use active mods

[weak tinsel]

why would you ever care for this in a miner ?
but if you do stock mole is good

[shadow tree]

Lower detection range and more power, dont know if its needed

[weak tinsel]

if you want top bits then just add them but i do not see why
for active mods maximizing the Helix power with a Surge works but you end up with very little green zone
other turrets idk i only use a stock or fltr hofstede

mayyyybe lower signature but i have never seen any other player that was not in a mining ship themselves

[shadow tree]

kk ty! ill need to get alot more money, didnt knew the heads and stuff are that expensive

[weak tinsel]

you only really need the Helix to be good solo

rest is just upgrades along the way
only rn sicne 4.1 start im going to go buy the modules, mined 4 full loads with just helix

[shadow tree]

Thought the helix isnt really good for smaller rocks

[weak tinsel]

it is not but you have 3 heads

[nova talon]

this friggin game bro.
i just lost 400k in trade goods that i was gonna make into 300k profit, because my game crashed and the ship is in "unkown"

[weak tinsel]

@spare cloud sorry for ping but was there a way to get it back ?

[spare cloud]

It's gone

[weak tinsel]

ah okey sorry to bother then

[spare cloud]

There isn't much to lower cause you already have big cross section. Getting EM and IR below CS is pointless.
Best you go for stronger more reliable components that will buy you more time to escape.
Better ask in #flight-combat-racing since this is more combat oriented. You'll find more reliable info there.

This is what I'm running with

Helix for big rocks.
Focus Hofstede for very small rocks and FTLR Hofstede to extract.

I barely ever need the Focus Hofstede but idk what to replace it with

[rain tinsel]

Anyone know the hard cap on the personal warehouse SCU size? I know you cant put any more in using inventory after 1000 SCU, but you can still send down stuff in the elevator

[spare cloud]

I don't think there is a limit to how much you can send down, or I never heard about it.
Only that you can't buy anymore when you're past the 1000 SCUs

[rain tinsel]

yeah that makes sense, I wonder if other then the elevator transfer size limit, if there is any limit on the actual storage in the warehouse at any location

[tall karma]

I wouldn't say pointless, as EM/IR missiles are way more common than CS, so the lower you can get those values the easier those missiles are to counter.

Would I prioritize it over ship functionality? No...

[weak tinsel]

we are talking MOLE so a miner

[tall karma]

Yeah, but it was in regards to escape

And missiles are going to be flying if you try to run

[weak tinsel]

never seen anyone hunt me or any miner complain but yeah

[tall karma]

Hunting miners is less worthwhile now that Supply or Die is over, but it was a serious pirate niche during that event for sure.

Someday it may be worth a pirate's while.

[peak hornet]

What is the purpose of the FLTR-XL? its only a few more % inert reduction for an extra 40k?

[spare cloud]

Why not get the XL you know 🤷 It's only a one time buy.

[weak tinsel]

its the last upgrade you would do if you want to

helps a tiny bit

[peak hornet]

it just does not seem worth the price

[weak tinsel]

well if ya wanna minmax then why not
i dont so thats that

people often look for the best possible setup so thats what we provide
you do as you please

[peak hornet]

im experimenting with the Golem right now so its ehh

good to see Charges are still borked and cause me to desync from the server when putting one on a rock

and cant unload my corsair of my refined goods 😦

so much for the gold, taranite and beryl

[weak tinsel]

autolad and with that refinery order colletion has been fucked since 4.0 sadly

[peak hornet]

i dunno how to auto unload

[weak tinsel]

To avoid the cargo stuck bug

Assuming you do not have cargo stuck to your ship, if you do claim a new one
Go into your hangar
Retrieve the ship while you are in hangar looking at it go up
Give it a moment
Store the ship still waiting looking at it go, you may only leave when the warning light band goes down and normal light shows up
Worth checking if the ships is stored and not to claim since that can also happen

Now after this i have not seen the Detaching bug appear in my many cargo runs

To be sure it's a good practice to repeat this each time
And there is nothing you can do about that cargo, might as well count it as voided instantly

[peak hornet]

or auto load

[weak tinsel]

auto load is a trading thing
also when you press Collect on a refinery order you auto collect the ore into the ship and it is broken or brakes 99% of the time

[peak hornet]

well in that case auto load has never worked for me

i cant do anything to cargo iside a ship exept manual load or unload

[shadow tree]

gonna try that one out just need to get some more cash first

surges are one time uses right?

[weak tinsel]

the cargo if broken will flicker a Detaching message
if you are trying to move it with a atls then it can be a problem with a atls

[spare cloud]

7 uses
Refills when you repair.

[thin stream]

took a look at the pins and is cargo specific - which is nice. But, I'm specifically attempting to find all of the internal personal storage for ships since it doesn't seem well documented in game, and not all ships have function storage.

[dim tinsel]

if i have cargo on a freight elevator andd i leave the hangar will it auto store or disappear or what happens

[craggy tapir]

Most likely disappear

Hangar persistence has been problematic

[craggy tapir]

You can always ask

[dim tinsel]

this is weird, it disappeared except for 1 box that teleported in front of the elevator and i had none of that cargo in my inventory when i first checked, then i put that 1 box down and then everything appeared in my inventory

also i died to a random person shooting me but like i was in my hangar and there was no person so idk how that happened

[thin stream]

I asked in help and given pins, here, as a possible spot for that info

[spare cloud]

#helpdesk message

This won't tell you were they are exactly but it'll at least save you the trouble of looking into ships that don't have any.

[thin stream]

thanks

[next mason]

Looking to get into ROC mining as a new player and have been told that Aberdeen is the best place to go for Hadenite.

I’ve heard from a number of people the dark sections on Aberdeens surface that you see for orbit are where the majority of Hadenite spawns. I don’t know if that’s true but with the recent addition of clouds to the moon for 4.1 I haven’t been able to verify this theory or find any Hadenite at all. Is there a current best way to ROC mine? I’ve also heard some people say it got broken with the recent patch, is there a better moon I should be mining on? any help would be greatly appreciated

[raw elbow]

I heard ground mining is broken, is it true?

[leaden monolith]

I haven't ROC mined this patch yet. I always used to go to Daymar, fly to OM1 then head down to the surface. It keeps you away from QT points meaning you're less likely to get attacked and Daymar was good for Hadanite.

All that being said it seems planet-side mining in Stanton is broken. There are apparently great spots in Pyro but sorry I can't recall which planets or moons they were. Also planet-side mining apparently works in Pyro.

[frosty birch]

Are the 50k HH Salvage missions bugged for anyone else?

I'm not getting any mission markers for them at all

[near swallow]

Not sure if it works for salvage missions, but I've heard people say to Alt+F4 and then log back in quickly as a solution for missing mission markers.

[lucid plover]

planet mining works in pyro

[quasi bramble]

planet mining works anywhere but orison for me

[weak tinsel]

It's been random
Not a single planet in stanton works for me
And in pyro only moons around Pyro V

[regal tide]

What happened to celin All of the mineable rocks Are all bugged out And not physical

[weak tinsel]

All stanton surface deposits have been broken since 4.1
Try in Pyro on Pyro V moons
It's safe no one to see anywhere and I have not been ambushed at refineries either

[regal tide]

Did they fixed the refinable boxes Glitched onto the ship which can't be moved?

[weak tinsel]

There has not been a fix yet
But there is a very simple work around
Just stand in your hangar and retrieve then store your ship. The only requirement is for your character to be present in the hangar as long as the ship stores so until the warning lights hide and normal lights turn on

[regal tide]

Thank you 😊 🙏

[dreamy scaffold]

can a get a large hangar on a hull-c or is it only the docking port?

[weak tinsel]

Only docking afaik
On planets its hangars in space docks

[dreamy scaffold]

how about grim?

[weak tinsel]

Dunno

[dreamy scaffold]

alright thanks for answering o7

[craggy tapir]

just noticed grim doesnt have docking ports

maybe they'll refunction the destroyed airlocks to docking ports

[mild pumice]

pretty sure it has XL hangars instead

they should add it as a residence for those who want to spawn in Stanton as criminals lol

[lament wigeon]

You can get a large hangar if the ship is stored in the closed state. I don’t know when they changed this but it’s great.

[supple lava]

What ship would people recommend for moving ~300 SCU of contracted cargo from a station to a surface outpost (in Pyro)? A Caterpillar?

[slate spruce]

C2? Lots of cargo grid will be empty, but if you feel you're in danger, you can definitely get airborne faster.

[supple lava]

Faster than a Cat?

[mild pumice]

Cat is quite slow, tbf if you're ambushed by a decent group in either and you're solo it's game over in atmo

Cat gonna be the faster to load/unload

time on surface is more important IMHO

[supple lava]

Yeah, I’m fine running that risk and/or bringing an escort. Looking for the fastest unload option.

[mild pumice]

I can load/unload a Cat a lot faster tbh

The ramp in the C2 is a pain

also just FYI it does spawn missions with less cargo I've had a few with 60scu the same pay so I just did those as it made more sense and did it in my Corsair.

Getting 300scu (in 8scu boxes) is going to be a pain in the backside tbh and you can only send 12 boxes at a time down the freight elevator so that's 3 or 4 loads

and they don't even fit lol (but it works) - the second level sticks out the top 😄

this mission had to be done in 2 loads (down the elevator), I only just got them in my Corsair lol

[supple lava]

Good to know

[shadow tree]

Where should i mine in Pyro? Only mined the yela belt so far but didnt mine in pyro yet

[mild pumice]

There's the ring of Pyro VI or you could try the moons of Pyro V. I'd avoid the asteroid clusters as they can spawn large groups of hostile NPCs although I think a lot of people were mining Ice in those locations during supply and grind

[weak tinsel]

Pyro V moons are nice Vuur is where i mine

[vestal ravine]

What spots on Microtech have the abandoned ships from Kopion hunting? I want to use my SRV to get ships to salvage. Ghost Hollow area? Thanks!

[weak tinsel]

outpost with KH3 in its name 100% has a bunch other than that idk

[vestal ravine]

Ok thanks

[strong pewter]

@weak tinsel Do you have to do that ship elevator trick if you are just taking one work order?

[weak tinsel]

every single time if you have not freshly landed a ship manually onto a pad
if you were logged of to sleep and came back you have to do it
you need to basically appear the ship near your character to make it load in properly

[strong pewter]

damn alright thanks

[weak tinsel]

like for example rn im dropping off some ore
if i was to now go back th the refinery and just store the ship it will be fine no need to do it twice

its annoying but simple and not time consuming

[strong pewter]

So, I could call my ship up, get in it, get off the pad, just land it right away, store it manually, then I could take multiple orders?

[weak tinsel]

no need to fly it

just make it go up and down the elevator

what i was saying is that you dont need to store it twice
as in i land store retrieve and store
that is not needed
just land and store and good to go
if the ship was claimed or you are logging back into the game its good precaution to do the trick

[strong pewter]

Right, yeah, I would be landing, unloading ore, then hopefully loading ore into a taurus, so the taurus, I would need to bring up, then back down. Then load refined ore.

[vestal ravine]

I had a cargo ship stored from a previous log in. So when I logged in to Cru L1 went straight to the refinery to collect the ore to the cargo ship. When I called the ship from the aesop terminal the ship spawned under the hanger and got destroyed. So now I will call the empty ship first then restore it in the hanger.

[glass dust]

does the rocks work after hotfix or I should wait for 4.1.1?

[weak tinsel]

it works
its the rocks that dont work
pyro is fine didnt check stanton after hotfix but i dont think that it fixed it

[mild pumice]

It might depend on whether shards and servers have all updated, it can take days or even a week for a server to die and be replaced

[red sierra]

does anyone know if they fixed the kill>salvage missions for headhunters?

the 80k and 150k fee ones

[sand escarp]

How can I sell refined ore from refinery? Tried to move cargo from refinery to my ship, but my ship was still empty even though the completed refining orders were removed.

[weak tinsel]

store and retrieve the ship

if still no then it might have voided

[sand escarp]

Thank you very much. worked like a charm!

[shadow tree]

you also sell and refine in pyro?

[weak tinsel]

i sell in stanton refine and mine in pyro

most sell spots in pyro are pvp or likely pvp
stanton gateway is chill

[shadow tree]

okay gonna try the first time with the mole now :)

but somehow the ui says im at 0.00/0.00 scu

[weak tinsel]

yeah empty ore cargo shows 0/0

[shadow tree]

oh kk :)

[frigid jetty]

Heya, I soft killed an NPC 315p, Im trying to find the components on it to loot to put on another ship but cant find them

Anyone know where they would be on the 315p? Or do I need to destroy it

[weak tinsel]

i think that some ships still dont have physical components yet
but hard killing it might make you able to see them within the wreck

[midnight bear]

Thinking about getting a C-1 Spirit. Any tips about what jobs are usually associated with that ship. Yes I know transport

[mild pumice]

It's really good for medium haulage missions or stacking smaller ones, it's also great for carrying a ROC (nice smooth ramp) plus plenty of storage space. In addition to the 64scu grid you can fit a further 32scu plus a bit between the blast doors if you use fhe tractor beam to load the last boxes.

It's also fairly decent in atmosphere (speed wise) so ideal for local deliveries and searching moons for surface mineables

@midnight bear ^^

[midnight bear]

Thank you. That's what I'm looking for, when I get the ship

[mild pumice]

Only downside is it has a slightly small QT tank but most ships in class are similar tbh. Just be sure to keep it topped up!

For hauling evrn though the grid is smaller than the Zoos CL it is more practical for loading bigger boxes

[mild pumice]

any known workaround for this?

I got some haulage I can't remove from my ship so I thought I'd try and get rid at hex

[ocean tangle]

Can anyone recommend some good trade routes and commodities for making good money?

I wanna save up some aUEC for a Vulture

[waxen coral]

where can you rent a prospector around Crusader?

[regal tide]

I got a 60K mass rock what do I need to crack it I have a Mole

[strong pewter]

Do I have to manually turn them on? says offline?

[strong pewter]

nvm figured it out, but when I was done, my surge module fell off? lol

[midnight bear]

What do I need for a salvage mission?

[errant wraith]

Realistically, a Vulture

[stark torrent]

Drake Interplanetary (DRAK)

Vulture

The Drake Vulture is a one-man salvage starter ship with plenty of on-board storage to help with salvage operations. It is designed for single-pilot salvage operations. It is even small and nimble enough to sneak into hostile areas unnoticed to recover fresh salvage.

Role

Light Salvage

Crew

1

Cargo

12.00 SCU

Length

34.00m

Height

9.00m

Beam

16.00m

Mass

0 Kg

Combat Speed

200 m/s

Max Speed

1100 m/s

Loaner(s)

Buccaneer

Pledge Price

US$175.00

Status

Flight Ready

Links

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[midnight bear]

Cutter?

[errant wraith]

The Cutter doesn't have any salvaging capability. It's a starter ship with a couple of small guns on it

[cobalt rivet]

I'm too lazy to relearn the meta, someone tell me what mining equipment I need for the Golum and where to mine

[midnight bear]

So I need to rent a vulture and go out?

[strong pewter]

Cant rent a vulture

[midnight bear]

How many credits?

[strong pewter]

3m

2.6 I think actually

[midnight bear]

They give me Arrow salvage missions right after the start And I have a cutter. Why?

[strong pewter]

no body really know why they make any decisions they do

[midnight bear]

So you have to have a vulture. Nothing else can do the job?

[strong pewter]

Reclaimer but thats 32m

I think you can hand scrape with a hand tool, but that would take forever

[midnight bear]

Hand tool?

[strong pewter]

multi-tool attachement

[midnight bear]

I'm only four hours in, I don't know this stuff or where to get it.

[hoary hinge]

or SRT tool

[vivid river]

Chill. First since you have a cutter do the small cargo or rent a med ship

[strong pewter]

Yeah tahts what I meant

[vivid river]

Save up then buy a vulture

[midnight bear]

I want to save up for a C-1 Spirit

[vivid river]

Those cargo missions give decent pay after a few runs

Whats your goal loop play?

[hoary hinge]

Well you've got two hand tools, the multitool salvage attachment and the two-handed SRT tool

[midnight bear]

Two collections, four salvage, and 1 mercenary

[strong pewter]

Oh no shit? thought it was one in the same, thanks!

[vivid river]

No no no, what is it that you want to do in the 'verse

Mining, salvo, bounty, cargo?

Whats the loop you want best

[midnight bear]

I think cargo beat suits me.

[hoary hinge]

SRT tool is like the Maxlift, but for salvage/repair. I may not have that 100% correct on account of never giving a shit about it

[vivid river]

Heres some resources to best find a good ship to rent. Find one in your current budget (ingame) grab it make money from linked cargo runs buy bigger ships as you go a decent mid ship would be like a zeus cl

https://uexcorp.space/vehicles/home/list/in_game_rent/

This'll take you straight to the renting section

[midnight bear]

Now I just need to find the kiosk the rents/buys ships

[vivid river]

That'll tell you where too

Location, price, scu size, ship size, etc

[midnight bear]

I'm thinking by next week I'll just buy the C-1

[vivid river]

Upto you but I would first try my hand at some other ships that may catch your eye and/or different gameplay loops

For me I find salvo, especially just munchin ships fun and relaxing but also enjoy a bit of HRT Bounties and cargo runs

Ill probably find myself mining a lil after the crafting & building updates come in

[strong pewter]

I like to load up on a bunch of refinery jobs, then go salvage.

[vivid river]

So imo I would explore a lil bit of everything

So, good luck an happy travels in the 'verse

[cobalt rivet]

Which modules are good for the Golum

[shadow tree]

Just Watched a Video about the reclaimer. It can eat hammerheads? I thought the reclaimer is just a big vulture. But this seems really easy and fast

[knotty dove]

can eat any ship only issue is buffer size

[shadow tree]

Now i really want one lol, i thought you still need to scrape like with a vulture

[knotty dove]

scraping gives you RMC witch has higger sale value than CM you get from mulching

[vivid river]

To add to that you get significantly lower rmc vs cm amounts

The reclaimer is a pseudo capital class ship
Has 2x scrapping heads
1x claw for fracture and disintegration
And 2x dedicated turret monitor stations controlling 3x turrets each
Internal buffer of 430scu (correct me if im wrong)

@shadow tree

[copper sky]

What's the best route for trading with a C1? I've tried hauling but it's kinda boring, since i have a ton of 1scu crates

[nocturne rune]

hey can i get started with cargo? I wanna do some trading with my c1

Which websites are good? Which stuff should i trade?

[vivid river]

Never used it but !uex has good resources

[nocturne rune]

what is !uex

[vivid river]

https://uexcorp.space/

[weak tinsel]

Idk what's the command but just Google UEX corp or UEX trade and it will come up

[vivid river]

Yea I gave up -_-

!uex

[weak tinsel]

Maybe !UEX ?

No

Hmm

[copper sky]

!tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[copper sky]

this one works

[vivid river]

Someone up there knows

[copper sky]

altough it's not uex

[vivid river]

I posted the uex link

[copper sky]

A decent trade route i did was Rustville ->Bueno Ravine

about 300k in profit with 64scu of Dymantium

[nocturne rune]

alrighty

imma do that

[spare cloud]

There was never a !uex cmd

Only tradetools

[copper sky]

there's also another route which could probably be a bit better