industrial-professions

[weak tinsel]

Trading afaik is allways a option
My preference is contracts since it's a bit more predictable with what I get after the work

Check UEX Corp site
They have a trading route planner that can help estimate profit

Remember that the prices of commodity are reported by real players and the data is not real time
Some of it can be weeks old some can be fresh

[topaz wasp]

I'm doing some salvaging and I was adjusting the scraper distance but instead of going left and right they go up and down 😭

have I pressed something?

[inland spire]

lalt+rmb perhaps?

[still quarry]

Did they change the Caterpillar doors? If yes i'm gonna apply M2 to Ironclad Assault and get Caterpillar until it is released and use ROC with it.

[shy hamlet]

Any fix for GEO not scanning a mineable? Know there is a bug and contributed. Seeing if there is a work around.

[weak tinsel]

It is not a GEO specific bug but sadly I do not know of any work around

[shy hamlet]

Okay thanks

I could hand with a multi tool mine so not totally broken. Heard it affects ship mining as well.

[weak oyster]

got a invisible wall so manual out then atls

[dapper aspen]

Has anyone had any problems selling construction materials in Pyro lately?

[fallen osprey]

Hey yall, can we buy additional bags for the Golem?

Ik they have 2 bags for ore storage and those 2 bags can be stored on a grid, but can we buy additional bags?

Ie) can I run like 3 golems outa a Polaris for a mining venture

[inland spire]

cstone says drake ore pods are for sale pretty much everywhere

[weak tinsel]

you can swap bags yes
but to refine you have to refine from a mining ship
so you would also need to swap them and refine each one by one

[fallen osprey]

That would be a pain lol.

[fallen osprey]

So it isn't viable to operate 3 golems out of a Polaris then? Or?

[weak tinsel]

it is viable

[fallen osprey]

Just we will need to seperate the ore pods to sell them all.

[weak tinsel]

and refining with bag swaps can be faster than going back and forth to the mining site especially in pyro
i tried it with a friend in a mole and it was ok just took a it of figuring out

[fallen osprey]

Gotcha. And it would provide additional safety so.

[weak tinsel]

it could also brake and render the ore unusable
just citizen things

[weak oyster]

hmm when i go on to atls in a planet it clips below the c2 and the cargo on the elevator goes back in

[rain tinsel]

This is a known issue with the ATLS, It frequently causes death or incapacitation. Its been confirmed at least once on the Issues Council. You can have your buddy stand by with a max lift and stabilze you with the tractor beam if you start to phase after you get in the ATLS.

[weak oyster]

yea i knew it well this time it didnt kill me twice it has happened

[rain tinsel]

from what I have heard its not an issue with the GEO, why they did not fix the base ATLS with the GEO release I have zero idea. Probably a bit of code here and there.

[weak oyster]

so far it only happened on planets

when in station it doesnt happen or its random

[rain tinsel]

in general, I would recommend you use the MPUV tractor for large unloads / loads while the ATLS remains a Murder Hobo. However, there is a known issue with that as well as the rear tractor beam turret causes severe eye strain after awhile because the line of sight goes down the Tractor Beam axis. This produces a lot of Occlusion and other "Tractor beamy" effects which look cool from the sides, but not from the center causes issues.

[supple lava]

I know the 200k XenoThreat salvage missions in Pyro from 4.0 got pulled but has anyone tried the lower value salvage missions and do they also spawn ships with lootable cargo?

[weak oyster]

oh well actually i noticed it did on that mining platfrom base and not the rock on salvage and co

@rain tinsel actually that area there might be bugged seems it was missing stuff i supposed to have,i do have them but not accepting them wierd

[rain tinsel]

looks like you might have left a couple of containers behind? maybe under the ramp?

[weak oyster]

i had them in the ramp but it woudnt accept them, just stored them

[rain tinsel]

yeah I see the issue there, no specific 2nd pickup

I would just record the error in the Issue Council and then submit the contract, youll get partial rep and payment for it

multiple direct contracts are always more desireable

[weak oyster]

yea i usally do direct but got this one time

[rain tinsel]

Once you get to experienced, you start getting the ones that max out the C2 and or the Hull C even

with a single load

There are a few Hull C loads that pay around 800K for 1 stop, though across stanton usually

[weak oyster]

almost out of junior rank

[rain tinsel]

a word of advice, stay out of the previous tiers, once you get member level dont take recruit or juniors anymore, its just not enough rep

I think you need like 5 previous level to get the rep of a single current level on completion

[weak oyster]

i do that, wish you could hide previous level ones

[rain tinsel]

yeah the contract system is in serious need of a filter system, they can start by making the "mark all read" button actually do something

[weak oyster]

and actually i have ironclad ccu just not applied it yet cause i find the c2 better to caterpillar

[red sierra]

the 120k ones drop eggs and slam

anywhere from 10 to 150 scu of eggs/slam, avg is probably around 40 per mission

[weak oyster]

oh got the member on the cargo hauling, now should some good ones

[winged musk]

Yo! New to mining!
I wanna do surface mining with the GEO, am I understanding this correctly that Euterpe ONLY has the S tier Quantanium and C tier Copper?

[rain tinsel]

Not sure if that data is pre or post 4.1, but it looks pretty accurate.

[winged musk]

I wanna store my Geo in my vulture, is Euterpe a nice place to mine AND salvage?

Wrong chat for that message..

[weak oyster]

not so many direct ones naw

[winged musk]

What are these types? Im not sure what signature to look for for quantanium 😮

[pearl juniper]

those are asteroid types. There is no signature for quantanium, just a signature for the type of asteroid, which generates a chance of getting quantanium

[supple lava]

Thanks

[mild pumice]

as you level up it's more drops, Senior/Master are almost exclusively multi drop

[weak oyster]

ah

[winged musk]

But I've read Euterpe only had quantanium and copper, so what signature should I look for ?

[pearl juniper]

if it only has quantanium and copper, it doesn't matter. Every rock will be just quant and / or copper. I doubt that is the case, but go look for sure.

[winged musk]

@pearl juniper this chart says it. Not sure how accurate it is, but yeah

[pearl juniper]

yeah, I saw the chart. But remember that chart is player generated data. If they don't have much data for a location it can really skew things. Maybe it's right, but it's very surprising if it is. Historically a good chance at finding quantanium is a place with 6-7%. Like this older chart from Redmonster

[strange grove]

Does ROC mining or vehicle mining work again? Anybody tried it already today?

[weak tinsel]

its random server form server due to lag

and to anyone interested
there is a dropdown to select 4.0 data which includes 4.0.2 data

that is for regolith site

[weak tinsel]

regolith site has now been reset for 4.1
it is manually gathered data
if you select advanced mode you can see that they have scanned and reported mostly quant rocks
that site with 4.1 data is HEAVLY uncertain and not reliable
there is a chance that this is how the distribution looks but i highly doubt that

[winged musk]

Thanks, I tried mining and I def dont like it and went back to salvaging lmao

Anyone knows the signature to look for panels ?

[weak tinsel]

anything wit xx.000

[winged musk]

so 1900 aint good

ok thanks

Jackpot

[rich root]

I dont know if im getting it wrong or you, a geo can only Harvest gems not big rocks that are meant for ship mining

[zenith path]

does server hopping work to fix hand/roc mineables being ghost objects? I'm on my 3rd server now and still unable to mine anything on Aberdeen.

[winged musk]

Oh, I gave up and went back to panel salvaging lol. Thanks tho 🙂

[rich root]

I just want to say that. Geo is like roc /hand mining quantinium is not meant to be Harvested with these

[weak tinsel]

it is not certain as many servers are not workig
and when you are joining make sure that the server name is in fact different, otherwise you just reloged into the same one

[zenith path]

yeah I'm joining completely different regions and checking ID 👍

[weak tinsel]

oke

well still, many servers can just not work and the new gems are prone to being broken

[zenith path]

@weak tinsel have you actually had success mining gems on the surface of a planet in the last day? anyone?

[sonic fiber]

Until they fix refining I just don't feel like mining

[weak tinsel]

did indeed mine a bit yesterday

[zenith path]

4th server (Feynmaline)

[weak tinsel]

try scanning the rock frist
and surfuce rocks can ONLY be mined by either GEO o ROC rover

[zenith path]

I treid in the roc as well, this shows that I'm inside one of the nodes, it has no collision box or anything

[weak tinsel]

cant help much more sadly

[zenith path]

thanks for tryin!

I found a server where shooting the nodes with my ship seem to collide with it, gonna try to find a roc mineable now

omg it worked. strategy was:

1. Go to planet and attempt to shoot big mineable rocks (ship-mineables are fine).
2. If bullets collide with rock you're good—go find some rocks/gems! If not:
3. Nav up to no atmo and bed log. Switch servers (switch region etc.)
4. Repeat

[weak tinsel]

good to know

[craggy tapir]

Or just land and bedlog

[zenith path]

I heard bed loggin on planet was a bad idea so I've always avoided it

is it safe now?

[weak tinsel]

i keep to the bad idea

and also while you land on a planet it might not work with deposts. like it would keep them laded idk tho just guessing here

[sonic fiber]

I say just log and try another day

[ivory frost]

hey guys
if a station stops buying my goods because the demand is too low, can i just go to another server with the hope that there will be demand at the same station?

[ornate halo]

Yeah- thats new data that doesn't have much in yet- Go Cellin.

[eager ingot]

Hi, can drake golem be used for delivering refined ores?

[hoary hinge]

No, it does not have a cargo grid
Ore bags are for mined ore
After refining, it becomes SCU boxes of commodity. You will need a ship with an interior (and ideally a cargo grid) to ferry it to market.

[eager ingot]

Thank you🥹

[hoary hinge]

What other ships do you have?

[analog patrol]

What's a good starting ship for salvaging?

[craggy tapir]

Uhh
Mods?

Damn that was fast

[spare cloud]

There's only one salvage "starter" buyable in game atm, it's the Vulture.

[spare cloud]

Mods aren't omniscient, ping someone active or DM @noble viper

[analog patrol]

Ah, appreciate that. Thought we had more options.

[spare cloud]

Fortune, when that becomes buyable in came

[vivid river]

all technicality salvo doesnt have any starters

just 2 mid and a pseudo cap ship

[inland spire]

bought a ROC, and when I tried to retrieve a ship to put it on, the ROC disappeared from the hangar even though it was not on the platform?

also is it normal that as soon as I exit the ROC in the hangar, it starts shifting all over the place for a while

[tribal garden]

yep lol it phases halfway into the floor for me

[inland spire]

dammit this thing drives like shit

it trips over the lights embedded in the hangar floor 😖

can it really survive outside?

[frail rose]

(reposting here in case this is a better channel than #ccu-and-fleet-advice) I'm getting annoyed by how little I can actually fit in the Zeus ZL when doing hauling missions. the size 8 SCU sized containers take up an akward amount of space so I end up not being able to fill my ship and do multiple trips instead. Do yall think the raft would be better for medium hauling jobs?

[vernal jackal]

I have 2 orepods from golem in cargo full, but when i go to refine there isnt any options to select material location. is it bugged?

[brisk heath]

does the orion mine faster than it refines?

will* it

if any1 knows the current idea for it

[hoary hinge]

We do not know

[brisk heath]

heard

[obsidian crescent]

Are prices on uexcorp in SCU? Some of these stats confuse me

[hoary hinge]

they're in SCU usually, what bit is confusing you?

[obsidian crescent]

so i see the UEC under the Sell tab of commidities, but under the Users part it says "3618 UEC per SCU on average"

[hoary hinge]

which commodity?

[obsidian crescent]

Pressurized Ice

[hoary hinge]

PICE had a massively inflated value in the last patch, it should be back down to its normal average of 700-800 now.
Those user submissions are based on the last 15 days, and for 11 of those 15 days the price was like 2000x what it is now

UEXCorp is, afaik, not really intended to be able to deal with devs meddling with pricing this much and still make sense

[obsidian crescent]

ah, hmm. Is there a website that is better for determining trades?

[hoary hinge]

just look at the "Last" column

But there's https://sc-trade.tools/home too

[obsidian crescent]

cool, thank you!

the last column says someone made a 65875 profit per SCU 19 hours ago off of Pice O_0

[raw elbow]

right, what is a good ship to start mining from scratch?

[reef smelt]

Where is the best place to mine and what should I be looking for?

[hoary hinge]

Yes, that was last patch when we had MASSIVELY inflated values for Copper, Corundum, Pressurised Ice and Tin due to Supply or Die.

[obsidian crescent]

hmm. How come it says 19h ago on the website?

[hoary hinge]

doesn't look like 19hr to me

I don't think it's reasonable for them to mess with their statistical data and hysteresis for a few commodities that most players will know were messed with last patch

Also, user-submitted data is not always reliable

[obsidian crescent]

I see. Thank you for the tips!

[serene basin]

I'm a little late to the party where do you mine jaclium?

or is the part of the new event and mineable after the laser like caranite?

[frail rose]

for hauling, do cargo haul sizes (extra small, small, medium, etc) raise your rep at different intervals? or is it all the same?

[hoary hinge]

the higher rank (trainee, rookie, contractor etc) matters

[frail rose]

I see

that makes sense. So Junior is better than Rookie, but extra small junior vs medium rookie doesn't matter?

[hoary hinge]

cant' be certain of that, but I suspect size doesn't matter ||lol||

[regal tide]

Is the Aberdeen one of the event broken? The battery gens are always closed

[raw elbow]

Right, how can i see how much i got in my mining ship?

And also, the MOLE cannot mine solo?

On the pilot seat that is

[near swallow]

Pilot seat doesn't have laser controls, you have to change seats to mine

And your mining inventory is shown in mining mode (m)

Which the pilot seat can do, and the turrets don't need to do.

Mining mode is also how you scan rocks

[merry prism]

Is there a site I can use to showcase visually where all the authority servers change in game?

[flint forge]

the Zeus CL is the cargo variant, but you can rent a freelancer max ingame with 120 or rent a const taurus with 170, i never do missions where i do more then 1 trip, better to do more smaller hauling contracts together then.

[flint forge]

no cargo size does not matter, i made master on member jobs faster then my buddy with a bigger ship doing bigger jobs

[nova talon]

does refined stuff refine into the same SCU as its raw?

[mild pumice]

No, the yield depends on the process used

[bronze field]

What is the most I could make as a new player, with rented ships or such? I have 2.6m to my name that I’m willing to spend if I can make it back fairly quick, I’m trying to get to a C2

[mild pumice]

You could invest in a Vulture and do salvaging as you have enough now, it's normally my goto ship after a wipe to start earning wealth.

I would just try different game loops to see what you enjoy and not try to grind one thing. For haulage if you like that the Hull A is good for stacking rookie missions and the Freelancer Max is good for the medium missions.

You can also rent a Drake Corsair now (I saw it at Lorville) that's a great all rounder and ideal for stacking local haulage missions once you reach member rank.

[craggy tapir]

Buy Vulture
Farm some rmc to get a cutlass

[glad ivy]

Like Fitzie said I think the most important thing is to enjoy what you're doing because any way you slice it it's going to be a grind.

What do you fly now and what are you doing to make credits in it?

[weak oyster]

this station doesnt work cant get in, can you use landing pads for cargo?

[spring flame]

Is there a way to track where your work orders are or do u just have to remember?

[weak oyster]

@mild pumice can you deliver cargo from landing pads on stations?

[mild pumice]

Nice you need a hangar, the only places with external freight elevators are surface outposts and distribution centers

[craggy tapir]

just saw this

[weak oyster]

the station wont let me in

[craggy tapir]

and i love it

[weak oyster]

the request doesnt work

[craggy tapir]

not even with f11?

[mild pumice]

Try from MFD or F11 instead of the key binding

[weak oyster]

not even f11

[craggy tapir]

i wanna see this

[weak oyster]

if i log to menu do i lose contracts ? cause HUR-L3 seems broken for me

[naive vine]

Does using the fortune feel like it takes much longer than vulture?

[weak oyster]

it worked went to magnus and back

[craggy tapir]

Yep

Fortune has 1 salvage beam like the reclaimer turrets
Vulture has 1 per arm

Tbh
Reclaimer should get s2 heads for a larger area

[mild pumice]

I really do find compartmentalised stacking too satisfying lol

[weak oyster]

should i switch to catterpillar?

[mild pumice]

I like it but it's only good up to about 400scu

it can't take 32s (wel it can but off grid and a bit of a faff)

it's great for sorting multi drops tho

[craggy tapir]

Dont use 32su with cat

One compartment can take 64scu of 32scu

Use 24scu or 16
To go to 96scu per compartment

[mild pumice]

that's why it's good for the medium senior hauls as they all use 16s (6x 16 per compartment)

[weak oyster]

C2 is nice now too that the ramps are fixed

[mild pumice]

I prefer to do these on the Hurston loop becuase it's smaller than the Crusader/MT loops 🙂

[weak oyster]

on Hurston too

hmm i just picked less silicon from everus, time to go back again

sight

[mild pumice]

@weak oyster don't forget server maintenance in a couple of hours so break for lunch and make sure you store your ship lol

I've got an egg sandwich, cockpit stinky lol

[weak oyster]

i did chicken and rice xd

[mild pumice]

on my last drop now so should be around 45mins for the 325k, they should pay a little more really as there's no profit in it to hire a helper

500k would be fair I think and the time would come down too with a helper

[weak oyster]

i got 3 missions but are on same locations if not wrong

[mild pumice]

that's always a nice loop, I think I have done those as I was levelling up

[weak oyster]

oh those 2 1 SU silicon crates are nowhere guess that contract is getting partial completed

[mild pumice]

that's mine done 🙂

[craggy tapir]

i really want thrusters on the atls

not insane boosters on the geo

just for the quick dash

[weak oyster]

we meet again

[mild pumice]

Does it reset if you leave the terminal? I've noticed a bit of jank with the freight elevators resetting (especially at surface outposts) so I actually jump on the panel before putting any cargo on so it can reset itself

[weak oyster]

it doesnt

last time i had it i went elsewhere came back and it worked will try this time too

[weak oyster]

hmm didnt work

[weak oyster]

worked after coming back after a while

[mighty crystal]

Ive spontaneously upgraded to a vulture, i have the abrade head, is there anything else i need to to help with salvaging speed?

[pearl juniper]

You have two abrade? (heads the one it comes with, plus one more). Other than that, No. Can make it a little stealthy if you are wanting to avoid detection

Faster more efficient qt drive is nice. I really like the civilian grade A drives. Faster acceleration and cool down than the industrial drives, so they are faster for all but the longest jumps. Even if the top speed is a bit lower

[mighty crystal]

I only bought one, where do i get the new qt drives and stuff? Is it the platinum bay

[pearl juniper]

Check erkul, they are scattered all over the place depending on exactly what you want

[weak tinsel]

https://www.erkul.games/live/calculator

[pearl juniper]

And actually the stealth stuff may be a bit buggy right now. Seems to always have higher than expected IR. so probably not worth messing with

[weak tinsel]

did you read the note that erkul has on that ?

[pearl juniper]

The warning up over time thing? Yeah, it's not that. For example, a setup that erkul says should be like 7k on a hornet starts at 15.1, and warms up to 15.5, but never goes lower. And adding a second cooler just makes it go even higher

Stealth coolers do lower it some, but it's still way higher than it "should" be. To be fair I don't know what it's supposed to be, but it's way higher than erkul says.

[elfin rune]

which ships can fit the GOLEM?

i dont see it in the " fit " datasheet

[weak tinsel]

the datasheet has not been updated yet

[elfin rune]

anything below C2? i dont have a C2 😦

[weak tinsel]

A C2 can fit a bunch thats all i know
you can try to figure it out by looking at its dimensions listed on starcitizen.tools and then looking what SCU capacity that is
1SCU box is = 1.25m on all three axis so XYZ its 1.25

[elfin rune]

thank you

[weak tinsel]

width is 5.6 scu
height is exactly 4 scu
length is 12.5 scu

so find a ship that has a bit larger than these dimensions of a hangar and try to fly in

but i do not understand why would you want to haul the golem around

[strong pewter]

One issue I guess could be no interior. So how would you drink or eat if you needed to?

[weak tinsel]

aint no way you dont have to go to a station befroe this is a issue

[strong pewter]

True

but would let you last out there longer if you had a mother ship per say, unload and stuff

[sharp swift]

696 SCU

[weak tinsel]

how in the hell ya go that number ?

[coarse ember]

thats the in-game cargo grid

[weak tinsel]

thats a lot of carg damn

[coarse ember]

vehicle wise last time i tried me a few org memebers were able to fit 2 nova tanks

[weak tinsel]

but the golem is 320scu ish

so might fit two

maybe 4 if they are rolled sideways

[coarse ember]

i think we have a fitment sheet for most curent ships, lemme go find the command or image it posts

it looks like when the pulse came it it was last updated but not for the fresh stuff thats recent

[sharp swift]

sc tools is a great site for quick ship info

[weak tinsel]

that is one hell of a panel field

[craggy tapir]

all 1/8scu box grid are fcked

[inland spire]

is there a limit on how many work orders you can have at a refinery?

[pearl juniper]

not that I have ever found / heard of

[inland spire]

is it normal to get thruster damage ("major torque imbalance") pretty much every time you fracture an asteroid? ship doesn't even alert of taking damage, but then when I start moving I'm getting the torque imbalance

nothing noticeable in the ship handling, just the HUD alert

nothing visual either, but the self status display is bugged and doesn't show the ship holo so no idea about that

hangar services do find some damage as there is always some cost to repair

[sharp swift]

It's typically happened for me when I'm within the blast radius of a rock that had gone into the red, even if briefly.

There is a very brief alert at the time of the break as well, so it is hard to miss

[inland spire]

I'm typically never in the warning range (the yellow hatched area with the alert icon)

if that's the blast radius?

[sharp swift]

I mean on the right side with the grey/green/red break progress

proximity does play a factor in it, but the radius is so large you can't mine and be unaffected

[inland spire]

I see

[sharp swift]

I just ignore it since like you said it doesn't affect much

[inland spire]

my assumption was the alert range on the left gauge indicates potential damage warning

[sharp swift]

only when I mess up (by not paying attention) do I take damage that actually affects flight

[weak tinsel]

that torque imbalance is minimal but the game does alert of it
mine with shields on should be fine
if it pops up sadly not much you can do to prevent it

[leaden wasp]

question bc its confusing as heck. when im flying around trying to find minables for my geo, I keep finding everything that i cannot mine, how am I supposed to know what can and cant be mined by what?

[sharp swift]

There is no indicator for mass until you get close to it, sadly

Oh the geo, you gotta get close and find the clusters of the gems

[weak tinsel]

the gauge is a indication of the damage area
but overcharging a rock can make the range to over 500m

[inland spire]

so it's damage area without overcharge

[leaden wasp]

well i keep finding clusters like this that used to indicate ROC mineables but when i get my geo out it doesnt allow me to interact with the deposits.

[sharp swift]

I think that's a known issue being addressed in an upcoming patch

[leaden wasp]

so the geo is useless atm?

I just dropped all my money on the geo and a carrier ship for it lol

[weak tinsel]

yes it is that indeed

[mighty crystal]

yikes lol

[weak tinsel]

the ground deposits can and mostly are buggeed out

[sharp swift]

Patience. It'll get fixed

[weak tinsel]

my friend has been able to mine them on Fuego? the pyro planet

[leaden wasp]

we are playing in stanton tho

[sharp swift]

So fly on over

[weak tinsel]

well go to pyro if ya wanna
its simple

and cool af

[leaden wasp]

its beautiful, its amazing , but we die every time as soon as we do anything

[weak tinsel]

mind that you should not fly into the gateway really fast

[raw barn]

can you put unrefined ore in the cargo elevator to refine or does it need to be on the ship?

[leaden wasp]

I mean just by players. they are everywhere killing everyone lol

[weak tinsel]

the bags must be attached to a ship

[sharp swift]

ship

[raw barn]

unfortunate

[weak tinsel]

no lol
its empty as hell unles you try to find ppl

[leaden wasp]

lol that may be but 5/5 trips there yesterday ended up in piracy in the first 10 min of showing up. and we are now broke completely haha

[sharp swift]

Have better OPSEC

Understand your emission range

[weak tinsel]

you can hit the tunnel walls just before the end
it will brake the jump module and you need to repair it on a station
but that spits you out in a random spot in the system letting you be safe

[leaden wasp]

opsec? my emission ranges are stock... broke af, 20k starting cash and prices are skyrocketed 😛

[leaden wasp]

we make it through the tunnel perfectly, we dont crash anywhere. we get shot by people XD

[weak tinsel]

bad luck i guess

i find pyro empty most of the time tbh

[leaden wasp]

so then what planet is recommended in pyro for GEO mining

[weak tinsel]

this is where my firend mines and thus far it worked most of the time

[sharp swift]

Staying far away from QT jump points is an easy first start

So you jump to a point, then fly 30-40km away from that spot to start looking for something

adds a few minutes, but adds a layer of protection from a lazy pirate seeking an easy kill

[raw elbow]

Right, im trying to understand how mining works and what is the best configuration for a prospector, any tips?

[inland spire]

does the "optimal" laser range affect extraction too, or only fracturing?

[leaden wasp]

what suits do you wear now to protect from cold? I cant find the old suit in the refinery we used to use years ago

[weak tinsel]

yes
extraction speed gets affected
tho only the last 20% affect it much

[weak tinsel]

hold on i did a lot of text for this imma need to find it

More Mass = more power
More resistance % = that much % less power
instability = power gets stacked in batches that are a little bigger or smaller, just the green bar filling in bursts, really high instability are really big bursts really hard to control
Inert filtration = unimportant/useless imo, its a % reduction in innert extraction form a rock,
window size = how much error you get for the bar to fill, the size of the green zone

the personal stuff about mining loadouts comes in what you like
i do not care for stability since i do not mine quantanium and even when i do i can manage it
i care for power since solo mining i can crack 20k mass 30% resistance or around that
i dont care for optimal window size since i am patient and enjoy playing with the power bar, my green zone is maybe 3% of the total

[weak tinsel]

most ppl use the Helix laser
i would put 2x reiger c3 and 1x focus 3 on it
tho as the wall of text states
it is a personally choice, this one maximizes mass over any other stat

[pearl juniper]

#industrial-professions message if you want to play with different configurations off line and see what sort of rocks (mass and resistance anyway) you should be able to crack. Or get an idea if it's worth getting out to put a gadget on a specific rock, or worth while to try a surge on it if equipped.

[raw elbow]

geezus, its more dense than bounty hunting

[weak tinsel]

bount hunting is just
I shoot shit goes boom

[weak tinsel]

this a nice tool

do bother zorg about pinning it or some other mod
idk if i should ping

[raw elbow]

either them or me

[olive basin]

jo why am i not finding any hadanite

[weak tinsel]

bad luck
or you are not on a planet that has it

[olive basin]

am on aberdeen

[raw elbow]

Also is there a tool to know best places to sell stuff?

[weak tinsel]

!UEX

[raw elbow]

Like, i have some SCU's of beryl, where is the best place to sell it

[weak tinsel]

UEX corp on the web

[weak tinsel]

on foot looking for caves or ROC/GEO surfuce deposits?

[olive basin]

im roc mining

[weak tinsel]

when scanning look for pings that are closer than 5km
they should be gem deposits
ping them on max focus to see, the gem deposits are really dense clusters of pings

[olive basin]

im not getting any pings

let alone ones under 5k

[ornate halo]

Its random. If yo udont get anything within a few minutes- you can either QT to a different location or bedlog and come in.

Also- are you having your scanning angle set?

[olive basin]

nope

[ornate halo]

50% is usually a good one to start with

[olive basin]

how?

[ornate halo]

and are you in scan mode?

[olive basin]

yes

[ornate halo]

easiest way is to look at your keybinds for the key.

[olive basin]

what do look for scanning angle or does have a different name in game

[ornate halo]

trying to find a screenshot of what it should look like

[weak tinsel]

scan mode is V by defoult
bottom right bar is the Focus bar
fully loaded bar means 100% or a 1 degree ping
0% is 360degree ping

[olive basin]

like this?

[weak tinsel]

ye

[ornate halo]

Thats it 🙂

[weak tinsel]

one scroll from 0 is 50%

[ornate halo]

50% Good job

[weak tinsel]

then it goes by 1/2 of that %
so 75 and so on

[olive basin]

aight ima try that thx

[glass dust]

is hand mining impossible? all rocks I found are ghosts

[weak tinsel]

its a currently ongoing issue with like 90% of severs
there is no workaround
it is due to massive server ping that you do not feel

[glass dust]

so no point to try thats sad

thanks

[ornate halo]

Just server hop. IT might take you a bit to find one that works, but its doable. Pyro is much better than Stanton right now

[weak tinsel]

^^

[raw elbow]

Why does mining doesnt feel rewarding? I mean, i got 14 SCU's of refined beryl and it felt completely underwhelming selling it, almost 40k

[weak tinsel]

beryl is a low end material worth little

regolith.rocks has a table of materials

mining the 3 i think S tier material
baxelite and other
thats what you want to do

gold is heavy af and it makes rock mass soooo much that its is most of the time not possible to mine solo

[mild pumice]

Might take my Golem out later, haven't flown it yet, what's a good all rounder setup these days? It's got 2 slots hasn't it? Passives probably. I normally just sell my ores I don't bother with refining

[sonic fiber]

Just the time and skill compared to other things. Its underpaid

5 min hauling same money

[raw elbow]

i see, it would take a lot more time to mine that

[raw elbow]

yeah its funny or ironic

[weak tinsel]

mining is chill and fun
it can be a lot of money quickly or nothing
currently due to servers being on fire it is hard

and hauling to make good cash quickly needs large expensive ships

what waiting 10min does to a mf

[raw barn]

pocket sized 10 man mining operation

[weak tinsel]

for any one wondering
Fego in pyro

[inland spire]

still waiting for my first work orders ever to complete, and I'm wondering, if refineries work in cSCU, how do you receive your yield? do you only get whole SCU boxes and the fractional remainder stays in the refinery for subsequent orders?

[weak tinsel]

whole SCU boxes
the value in refinery is 100X the amount of SCU
the ore amount gets rounded to whole SCU iirc

[inland spire]

for each individual order, or do the fractional parts accumulate across orders?

[weak tinsel]

no

each is its own

[inland spire]

so there's never any point in refining any material that will yield less than 100 cSCU

[pearl juniper]

it always rounds UP to the next full SCU

[weak tinsel]

if you were to put like 0.5SCU and it will yeald 0.3SCU i will go to 1SCU

[pearl juniper]

if the yield is 1401cCSU, you get 15 scu

[weak tinsel]

but 1.3 will be 1

[weak tinsel]

oh really ?

[pearl juniper]

pretty sure it always rounds up

[inland spire]

oh that's not bad then

[weak tinsel]

thats what i was told LONG ago

[pearl juniper]

I haven't tracked it super close, except for a few jobs in supply or die where I had a spread sheet to keep track of my materials at various locations, and I was entering numbers (when I started jobs) with rounding up and it always matched up in the end. But also I might be mis remembering and the jobs were more than x.5 scu. Pretty sure I had some that were less than xx.5 and they rounded up though

[near swallow]

Seems to me that when refining, you can end up with SCU containers that are not entirely full. I haven't checked that in detail lately though.

[inland spire]

how would that even work, UI-wise? do you get a fractional box somehow?

[weak tinsel]

box mass maybe?

[inland spire]

so if you sell it, does it count as a fractional amount of SCU

[weak tinsel]

i remember getting a 42.5Ton Copper 32scu box and a 37.3Ton 32 scu box of copper
both from one order

[weak tinsel]

prolly no but idk

[inland spire]

every material has different density

full boxes of different stuff weigh different amounts

[weak tinsel]

with high paying materials loosing like 0.5 of a 100scu load is nothing really

[inland spire]

but prices are per SCU not per ton

oh you mean different weights of the same material

this does sound weird

are you sure one box wasn't 24 SCU

[weak tinsel]

nope hard to mistake 32 scu boxes on a raft

[tall vigil]

Can you manually add mining modules? Or is the mobi the only way to do it?

[ornate halo]

Yep- if you open your ship ports and use a tractor beam, you can add or change modules

[leaden wasp]

where do you sell ROC / GEO mineables in pyro?

[weak tinsel]

you do not sell them in pyro

only in stanton

[inland spire]

is it worth turning off refinement of the low-end materials? does it save you time or money? or does it just save you the hassle of dealing with the cargo afterwards?

[crimson dawn]

Surface mining working at all since the hotfix?

[pure geyser]

.

kinda

[inland spire]

dammit I thought only the vulture has these weird no-atmo spots here and there, but turns out the prospector also has those

[sullen sentinel]

Starlancer has them as well

[raw elbow]

Some quyestions -> What armor is that, what ship is that and where i can get those fuckers?

[vivid river]

ship is the zeus, CL i belive

[coarse ember]

zeus is the ship and those are atls geos inside it which are pledge only rn

[sullen sentinel]

Looks like adp-mk 4 armor in woodland colour as well.

[inland spire]

is it not possible to collect a refinery order into station storage? only with a ship?

[mild pumice]

Not yet, they need to rework the system

It's still the old system from before cargo empires patch

[raw elbow]

but aint there another one that does something else?

[plain shoal]

Can someone explain the work around to mining right now? just bought a bunch of mining related stuff because its the only loop i havnt tried and now every single rock i come up to is unscannable and my laser wont interact with it.

[coarse ember]

yeah normal tractor beam atls, you can buy that one in-game for like 75k at a18 and i think a few other spots

[inland spire]

wtf does that "detaching" mean? can't pull cargo off the ship

it's not a ship component dammit, what's that "detaching" supposed to mean

[mild pumice]

It's a bug, if you let your cargo ship auto store then send a mining job to it the cargo can be stuck like this, it can also occur of your ship was auto stored another way like by a 30k.

The workaround is to always store your ship at the ASOP in the hangar and wait for the animation to finish before you leave in the elevator

Once this happens you probably can't sell it, but you can try to see if auto unloading will work (didn't for me)

[hoary hinge]

and wait for the animation to finish before you leave in the elevator

My personal metric for this is when I see the ship's AR numberplate disappear

[mild pumice]

Is it safe to use a fleshly delivered/claimed ship or should you send it up/down?

[hoary hinge]

Dunno, I haven't done any mining in 4.0.2 or 4.1.
The only cargo I've moved since 4.1 was stor*all boxes

[pearl juniper]

some people claim the only reliable way is to use a freshly claimed ship. Personally I never had it fail just sending it up and down manually, and waiting until the ASOP says "stored" before leaving the hangar.

[mild pumice]

Cheers, I've got some stuff in refinery overnight so be good not to lose it lol.

[leaden wasp]

where do you sell GEO minables after they are gathered?

[latent drift]

So I’m a bit torn here guys. I have been enjoying my Conny Taurus, but also picked up an upgrade for it to the Starlancer MAX. But I haven’t pulled the trigger on actually upgrading it yet…

[hoary hinge]

Pilot guns downgrade
Cargo space upgrade
Living space upgrade
No tractor beams
Better turret firepower

It depends on what you use the Connie for, I guess

[wraith ice]

what are the new hand minable and which hand minable pay the most?

[leaden wasp]

I hae tried absolutely everything and cannot sell things that I mined with my GEO. any tips?

[mild pumice]

Go to a place that buys the commodity (check SC trade tools)
Take the box out of your Geo, carry it to the Item kiosk in your hangar
On the UI drag the box into your inventory
Click on the arrow to open the box
Drag the gems into your local inventory
Go to the Admin kiosk
Select the station/city as the inventory location
Sell your items.

Note you can also just transfer the gems to your backpack and then to your inventory.
You can also store multiple geo boxes inside a StoreAll box

Just remember you need to move the gems to your local inventory to be able to sell them and of course you must be at a location who buys them!

[ripe grail]

What's the best mining spot in pyro, and any change on what good ores are to grab?

[latent drift]

Mostly for the cargo space, rather than for the firepower. And I do like the Starlancer’s living spaces.

[floral spindle]

So I'm guessing after the golem the next step up for me would be straight to a mole?

Sounds like there's not a lot of excitement for prospector with the golem out.

[hoary hinge]

Depends if you like to take a shit/bedlog/eat/drink when you're in the black

[hoary hinge]

Sounds like you want a Starlancer
YOu can buy one in-game, and if you find you do really like it then you can upgrade your Connie with CCUs

[floral spindle]

Fair enough, that's a selling point at least. If I was planning on mainly mining getting more than just the seat is a big deal 👍

[hoary hinge]

Also the Prospector is supposed to be able to take Argo bags, bringing it to 48SCU

[south roost]

howdy, so i havent done a single bit of mining in probably years, and when i did i was just riding along on someones mole. now i have a golem. wheres the best place to mine at in stanton? also i heard gold is worth something and i dont need to look for quant?

[ornate halo]

Gold sucks balls. Look for Quantanium or Taranite in Stanton- but right now, eitherr stick to asteroids or shard hop for a good server- Cellin is one of the better surface mining

[south roost]

whats the best asteroid field to hit up you think?

[ornate halo]

CRU-L1 has always been good to me. The Halo is nice if you want to be left alone, but its more generic in minerals, finding good stuff can take soem looking

[south roost]

thank you

[reef smelt]

How can I ads to see the green zone when multitool mining?

[nova talon]

my tractor beam doesnt want to detach the boxes from my taurus. both on foot and the turret one. any idea why
it looks like its switching between "detaching" and "no target" really fast

[plain shoal]

are the new minables worth mining? im seeing 115k for the glacosite?

[hoary hinge]

glitched cargo, only way to fix it is claim the ship and hope the cargo wasn't too important

[nova talon]

no way. fr? thats 200k gone.

[clever barn]

Anyone have a upgrade guide no the taurus?

[hoary hinge]

unfortunate.
Is it just one box or all of it?

[nova talon]

all. and now my ship is stuck under the thing anyway. so gotta find a way to get to a dif station and claim it

i moved it around. no luck

[hoary hinge]

what do you mean your ship is stuck under the thing?

under the ship elevator?

[nova talon]

yea

[hoary hinge]

Did you call the ship from the ASOP lobby, or from the ASOP terminal in the hangar?

[hoary hinge]

to be fair that's less than one full Vulture of RMC

[nova talon]

BOTH

oops

[hoary hinge]

In my experience, if you summon the ship from inside the hangar and it gets stuck in/under the ship elevator, you are normally able to store it from the hangar asop terminal again and then try again

The only time I've ever had the hangar ASOP fuck up on me was on patch day in A18, when we were getting like 15second interaction delays

If you can't get to your hangar in from the elevator because it doesn't exist, summon your ship from the ASOP lobby then immediately store it, then go down to the (now empty) hangar and summon it again.
This (should, under non-fubar circumstances) always make your ship come up the lift properly

[weak tinsel]

Its fucking hilarious that we still have the exact same issue as last patch
It made people loose so much money in cargo for the last event yet it is still here

[weak oyster]

which issue ?

[weak tinsel]

Cargo stuck to grid with rapidly flashing Detaching

[weak oyster]

oh i didnt get that oh its random to happen

[foggy token]

Hey now, this is a small indie studio's first big game, cut them some slack, they can't be expected to resolve seemingly minor issues in such a short amount of time. 13 years is nothing when compared to the total life span of the universe...

I just want my $100 mining purchases to actually work. For the mining event... that they released publicly. As STABLE.
Like, it all worked fine on PTU, then they push it to live and it breaks? I don't understand this dev's cyclic fails.
every. single. time dude.

then they hotfix server stability when it's probably the most stable it's been since 3.18.
And then ignore the other issues entirely. Record breaking pledge income this year so far and they are showing the newcomers and returning players that nothing has changed.

[weak tinsel]

Well anyway
To avoid the cargo stuck bug

Assuming you do not have cargo stuck to your ship, if you do claim a new one
Go into your hangar
Retrieve the ship while you are in hangar looking at it go up
Give it a moment
Store the ship still waiting looking at it go, you may only leave when the warning light band goes down and normal light shows up
Worth checking if the ships is stored and not to claim since that can also happen

Now after this i have not seen the Detaching bug appear in my many cargo runs

To be sure it's a good practice to repeat this each time
And there is nothing you can do about that cargo, might as well count it as voided instantly

[craggy tapir]

neat

also
tbh we need interiour paints

the dying star paint should also graffity the inside

a poorly made port olisar mural, a crobert mural

[weak oyster]

could use indeed

[craggy tapir]

would be cool inside ships like c2, caterpillar and maybe 890j

vandalised 890j

[weak oyster]

and ironclad

[craggy tapir]

especially ironclad

[inland spire]

this was a freshly delivered ship, so apparently not safe

[inland spire]

so is the cargo dead now? only thing I can go is blow up the ship altogether?

[hybrid spoke]

Weirdly enough, I was able to log out and back in immediately, summoned my ship, and the materials I had when I was mining was still there. Perhaps it works similarly for regular cargo?

[umbral dust]

Anyone having trouble movie conmat through orison? i just can't sell more than a handful of 16 scu boxes at a time

[mild pumice]

Normal when something is in low demand, presumably following the event people are back to their old loops

[modest plinth]

hiya, if i wanted to go out mining with the geo what would be the best ship to take it out in? Also are there any ships with space to load the geos boxes in properly like scu boxes would to a cargo grid?

[regal tide]

What's the best mineable for a Roc?

[weak tinsel]

Look up my text wall a bit up

[proud pumice]

As far as I know hadanite is still the most expensive.

[weak tinsel]

Nope
The new gems are the most valuable

And hadanite is not a ROC minable

[weak tinsel]

This is if I'm not mistaken the best one

[tepid tulip]

Regarding Mining in Pyro with a Golem, where is the best place to go? I've yet to find any good materials 🙃

[inland spire]

yeah that seems like a prevention advice, and I will be following that, but once it is stuck already is there anything I can do about it?

but I see you mentioned to just claim one 😔

love it how neatly they attached the "24 hours of unavoidable waiting" game mechanic to the "send the cargo you waited 24 hours for down the drain, and we do know about this bug" game mechanic

almost feels like there's a "time wasted" KPI that they're actively working to maximize

[naive vine]

How much gems in that worth

like how much is 1 SCU of gems

[shadow tree]

Just got myself a prospector what things do i need to buy for it now? :)

[naive vine]

get a helix 1 laser

then mabye a reiger c3 and surge modules

[shadow tree]

okay! also heard you can double the cargo or something?

[naive vine]

yeah its a bit fiddly but i can be done, ur best to watch a video on YT

[pale finch]

Any tips on unscannable rocks after the hotfix yesterday? I had 0 problems for the last week but now nothing scans properly, the locations appear and tells me what type of rock but they never go blue to find out what is in them.

[median anvil]

i been scanning for around 20 min now in daymar and only found ore no gems is that normal?

now i cant find a single thing

[shadow tree]

Is there a difference for mining in pyro? is it better over there?

[mild pumice]

this is too many boxes...

has anyone got their redwind rep up in Pyro, does it unlock better hauling missions?

[analog patrol]

You need you a Atlas.

[mild pumice]

it's terrible it can't place a box anywhere and just smashes them against the walls of the ship, honestly apart from moving the box from A-B the maxlift is significantly better lol

[craggy tapir]

why did cig name the atls atls to begin with

so confusing with the atlas chassis

[mild pumice]

I use it to move boxes around the hangar but beyond that it's just furniture.

[analog patrol]

I use it to shove most of the boxes into the ship & then use a hand tractor to actually spread em out.

[mild pumice]

it takes twice as long though because you have to do everything twice

and as soon as you pickup a box you can't see in front of you anymore lol

[knotty dove]

Man i dislike hauling missions since they avoid using 16SCU and 24SCU containers with missions that have 60SCU+ of cargo

[mild pumice]

yeah it's a pain that was 23x 16scu boxes for the 370scu

[weak tinsel]

I have not been able to mine planetside since 4.1 but any L point locations work
Have not tried pyro

[weak tinsel]

Are you certain daymar spawns surface deposits ? Hand minable gems Dolivine Hadanite and the third one are cave only and only minable with hand held tools

Also gem pings show up in less than 5km from you
Anything past 5km is a minable rock deposit

[median anvil]

so whats the best thing i can farm with a roc?

[weak tinsel]

The new gems are the best minable
I have no idea what the names are but some internet site has them for sure

I have found Feynalite or something like that on Fuego Pyro

I have not been able to mine any surface deposits in Stanton so I would suggest not even trying in stanton since servers are laggy af

[median anvil]

did they change what is mineable and what is not?

someone told me some of the gems are no longer mineable by roc

[weak tinsel]

Old gems are now CAVE ONLY
New gems are surface deposits

You can mine them
But just touching them with the ROC's laser will blow them up

[median anvil]

new gems are how new like this patch new?

beacuse im trying to watch videos bc i have not played this game in over 2 years

[weak tinsel]

4.1 new

They work the same way as pre 4.1 gems in every single way
Only the value and spawn location changed

[weak tinsel]

From my short time spent in pyro yesterday I know that surface rocks accually work compared to stanton
Mind that it is server related and I just could have been lucky enough to find a good server by random chance of that

[shadow tree]

Right now im doing asteroid Mining on yela, is surface Mining better?

[weak tinsel]

Rocks spawn in clusters
Much more SCU per cluster
The cluster rocks vary in size so it's easier to find low mass rocks for prospectors

It's not necessarily better just can sometimes be easier

[shadow tree]

Oh Yeah that Sound better, Most of the times i only find one asteroid

[weak tinsel]

Asterosids also tend to be outside of a prospectors max limit or just like 3SCU insta extract rocks with trash mixes of ore

[shadow tree]

Gonna Look for a Chart to See where to go i guess

[weak tinsel]

Do mind what I wrote a bit up tho

[shadow tree]

Im just gonna try it and see if it works

[weak oyster]

ive got the ATLS to work with the c2

[mild pumice]

Show me a video of you loading 16 or 32scu boxes into a C2 I need a good laugh

[weak tinsel]

Ya know you can free look in the atls

And stand in a way so it wont block your vision with the box

[mild pumice]

defend it all you want it's still shit and I'll die on this hill

also rank progression on Pyro haulage is working now, I'm up to Jr

[weak tinsel]

Only trying to help
I do also find the atls quite a shitty tool
If they gave it two modes to work as is and as a hand held tool would be glorious

HMMM
Can the GEO take a tractor tool ???

Since it can take a mining tool

[mild pumice]

I don't think so no

pretty sure you can't change the loadout

[weak tinsel]

You can manually attach stuff to it
My friend somehow gave it the VOLT rifle and killed me to test it

[weak oyster]

i havent ulocked 16 pr 32s yet ill share my expirence with them soon enough

hmm i should have called the c2 from the hangar

it ate it

[weak tinsel]

[weak oyster]

seems its refusing to give me any ship now lol

[mild pumice]

Nom nom hungy hangar

[proud pumice]

@naive vine I believe 100 gems of any type equals 1 scu

[mild pumice]

lmao 163scu in 8 SCU boxes, joker mission

wait better, 300scu x8 - who's idea was this mission lol

[weak oyster]

this time i put them by thing and not random

[mild pumice]

nice tidy stacking

this one seems realistic so gonna give it a try

hopefully I can squeeze that in my Cutlass Black as that's what I'm flying at the moment lol.

[still sleet]

Has CIG fixed the cargo grid locking bug for refinery orders? Or is it still borked?

[craggy tapir]

100 gems equal 10cScu

You need 1.000 gems for 1scu

[proud pumice]

So that's 1000 gems per SCU?

[craggy tapir]

Yes

[proud pumice]

Ah. So, in other words hand and vehicle mining is worthless. Got it

[inland spire]

if it was profitable, they wouldn't be doing it using slave labour in prison 😏

[tall karma]

its actually one of the most profitable loops right now if you can access the resources in hathor mines!

Some day I will take cave bounty missions, go there in my GEO, and try to defeat all the NPCs with the mining laser (which does inflict damage) then try to mine whatever I find as well.

[proud pumice]

Yes, but that requires getting into hathor. But just heading out and looking for minables doesn't look to be so profitable

[median anvil]

best place to farm gems?

[craggy tapir]

Daymar
Aberdeen

Aberdeen needs pembroke though

[plain shoal]

Im pretty pissed about this. Last night I spent hours mining glacosite with the geo. From like 11am to 11pm learning the whole loop. I was excited because I had filled 60 geo crates. That felt like nice honest work so I go sell and it didn't even make enough to cover my qt fuel and restock.

Like if they are gonna make us spend time like that at least make it profitable.

This was my first time mining ever and will be my last until it's worth it again.

[proud pumice]

Ooof, I would just transfer from the Geo to waiting SCU crates. Instead of stacks of the micro crates

[plain shoal]

Holy shit I had no clue you could do this

[cobalt rivet]

is mining bugged atm?

debating on buying the Golem

[craggy tapir]

Get a 8scu crate

Take geo pod in hands
Drag into 8scu
Open geo pod
Drag gems

You don't even need another pod

[plain shoal]

I feel like I should have been rewarded for all that hardwork it felt bad to make the same amount of money as an hour of combat missions. Im not waisting my time with that again tho. Very tedious work that had me excited for a payout. If I grind 12 hours in any game I expect a payout lol

[craggy tapir]

Also mine hadanite or something

[proud pumice]

Yeah man, I made it into hathor the other night. Just leave the goes backpack "open" you jump out, grab the gems into your backpack (or have someone else running back and forth) and dropped them into the waiting crates. (Great time to cook down when on Aberdeen)

You can literally leave the backpack hanging open and keep mining in pretty sure

[plain shoal]

I tried that but it was 30 minutes between finding them then I couldn't mine it after I found it because of the stupid bug. Right now it's only Pyro and hathor that have minable shit

[craggy tapir]

Do fenymaline

[plain shoal]

Worthless

Sells for like 300 a scu

Gem mining is dead is what you guys are telling me. Even tho they just release 2 ships and an event for it lmao

Im not looking to make billions. I should have researched more before buying a Zeus and the geo with real cash haha

[proud pumice]

Feyn shows as 391K per SCU

But even then that's apparently with A THOUSAND gems

[plain shoal]

Guys im just super salty after droning for 12 hours yesterday thinking I was gonna make like 5 mill.

[proud pumice]

Tbf the Zeus is a wonderful ship (at least in my opinion)

[craggy tapir]

"Feynmaline is worthless"

ignores 391k per scu

"Now that's gonna make me rich!"

mines one of the worst gems

[weak oyster]

hmm got 3 member contracts active

[craggy tapir]

Do janalite

Fckin rare but dayum

15k per gem

1 geo pod is 150k

Most of time you can fill 1-3 pods

300k to 450k

[tall karma]

You can only find Janalite in caves

And pretty sure its only found in those sand caves on Daymar.

[proud pumice]

As far as I know yes

[craggy tapir]

Where can you find caves on daymar?

[proud pumice]

I had a fucking stack of 20 ready for the 4.1 release and they ALL FKN went POOF

[tall karma]

At some point resources like these will be more geared for crafting purposes and not necessarily a career. They will also hopefully introduce mining missions vs doing it solely to sell them to shops.

[tall karma]

Hit up Youtube for guides. They're not marked, so it requires a touch of exploration.

[vivid river]

Zeus is a great investment

[craggy tapir]

Hm

[craggy tapir]

Why not sell

[proud pumice]

I had them waiting for the collector missions

[plain shoal]

Ignores the 30 hours it would take to gem mine 1000 gems let alone finding the. Do you even gem mine?

[craggy tapir]

I do

From time to time to chill

[coarse ember]

ik for a fact theres one next to kudre ore but dunno about jalanite spawn chances there, some of the ones on daymar are just random holes in the ground too in craters

i should specify the open kudre not kudre ore (closed)

[craggy tapir]

I just posted a map of kudre ore (closed)

[plain shoal]

Okay guys what's the current money making meta? I need a Carrack in game again and with the new price and wipe it hurts

[coarse ember]

yeah theres the kudre without the closed tag and one with it eiter way both should have big open caves right next to em within 500m

[plain shoal]

Currently there's nothing that feels good to make money...

[craggy tapir]

Salvage

[coarse ember]

yeah salvage is usually pretty good, dont think they tweaked the prices for rmc again so depending where you go should sell for about 14-15k per scu

vulture if you really sqeeze the boxes in can do about 12 on grid and 12 off grid if you hold a box above the ejector

[tall karma]

Also, why do you "need" a Carrack?

[weak oyster]

hello there

[jolly dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-general-kenobi-star-wars-grevious-gif-17774326

[weak oyster]

lol

[plain shoal]

Is that it? Fucking hell. I've played fast/ combat stuff for the last 5 years. I just want to do something industrial for a change but it doesn't seem there's an incentive yet. Dude I sold my vulture within days of it coming out. Salvaging is the most boring loop I've ever tried. For such a huge scale game there's very little to do other then killing.

[tall karma]

Combat and Cargo are better at making income.

[plain shoal]

I want the carrack back because it's my teams mobile base of ops and allows us to set up in areas and whatnot. It would be nice now to park near hathor and run back and forth for pvp. We have used the carrack every patch for at least 5-6 now.

[plain shoal]

That's what I just said.

[tall karma]

Hauling is chill

Its an industrial profession

[plain shoal]

I want there to be a reason to do industry stuff. I really enjoyed mining yesterday but not enough to do it for free.

[tall karma]

Mining is very profitable... if you can secure a Hathor mine.

[plain shoal]

Your just a cunt arnt you?

[tall karma]

But you can make reasonably good income mining for taranite/quant etc using a golem or prospector.

[plain shoal]

Yeah but can you make more in the same time doing combat? This is my fucking issue. Making something out of nothing should be reward heavier then shooting.

[tall karma]

I was trying to help you with actual income generating options, but it sounds like you're just here to complain, so good day.

[plain shoal]

If I run erts and you mine with a prospector for 12 hours, ill make more money then you with half the effort. Why does this make sense. Im not complaining im asking questions on why this makes sense. In t years I've never touch mining. My first go at it and it waisted my day. Why does combat pay more?

[ember star]

Let's try not to randomly call people names just because they are engaging in conversation with you please

[tall karma]

That depends on combat skill. Sounds like you're decent enough, but there are a lot of folks that are not any good at combat (or lack ships for that).

In my experience, hauling is actually the most consistent way to generate income without combat doing the hauling missions.

The reason mining isn't as valuable as other options is because of incomplete game loops where mining missions aren't implemented and crafting isn't implemented.

Once you have to start gathering mining materials for base building, crafting components, building the best weapons and armor, mining will be one of those staple professions everyone either does or pays others to do for them.

[vivid river]

Did they give us back the large ship like the c2 again?
I stopped due to them lowering the sizes for all contracts

[coarse ember]

dunno i dont do the actual missions i just go around scraping panels or abandoned ships

[tall karma]

If they didn't tweak the prices for RMC/CM after Supply or Die, then ripping hammerheads and starfarers for CM with a reclaimer should be super fast income.

[vivid river]

I haven't seen a HH or C2 in so long

[tall karma]

I did 4.0 unverified "risky" salvage and was getting Hammerheads / Starfarers (no hercs) in Yela that paid 10k to complete the mission.

It was like 270k per full 240scu haul.

[vivid river]

This was during the SoD event

[plain shoal]

I appreciate the response. Over the years I've always heard how much you can make mining so I spend over 200$ to get into the gameplay and am crushed by bugs, bad research and frustration. I thought it was going to be 85k a geo box not a full scu. Sorry I name called . It's just a matter of situation and wait for these loops to be playable for me. Cargo hauling is alright but I really like the idea of going to create shit. In eve I can mine for huge profits but that's also selling to players. I love combat and I guess im pretty good at it but id like to generate things instead of just only blowing them up.

[tall karma]

The Wikelo mission giver is the new example of where mining will get you the ability to "build stuff". Unfortunately it has a pretty high barrier for entry, but one of the missions is delivering 24SCU of Quant which gets you Polaris Parts and you need x50 of those as part of the checklist to complete a Polaris - which you could sell to players maybe? Its just a lot of overhead without the underlying systems CIG needs to implement.

[fallen osprey]

So yall how does the Golem stack up against other ships like the Prospector? In terms of how much ore it can hold.

[fallen osprey]

Guess that's step 1 / 100

[tall karma]

I would also say that the Carrack is a bit unnecessary as a 750k Medical Ursa provides all the same regeneration capabilities that the 34mil Carrack offers.

[tall karma]

There's not a ton of steps if you look at the mission, and there are other ways besides mining to get quant.

But the main problem is generating Wikelo favor, which requires locking down a hathor mining area for a whole day with a good sized org of people pillaging the resources and allowing a single person to turn them in for favor.

[fallen osprey]

Carrack is a explorer ship. Not a vehicle

Granted the Carraxk isn't good either.

[tall karma]

That was more in regards to ATree's goal of getting money for a carrack to use as a base of operations for Hathor mining regeneration

I wouldn't bother with a Carrack since you can just use an Ursa parked inside a corsair, or better yet, parked in an armistice area where you can retrieve a pisces or 100 series to easily return to the Hathor mining area.

[fallen osprey]

Yeah you really don't need a Carrack just for that.

Harder to hide if anything.

[weak oyster]

thats a lot 2273 scu

[tall karma]

That's a Hull C mission, or you'd have to take multiple loads in a C2 or something.

Most people dont do those without a Hull C.

[weak oyster]

yea, the one above says 502

[tall karma]

When you get to Member rank there's a 700k mission which is for a full Hull C.

[elfin rune]

can anyone tell me,for the lord, how can i change the GOLEM modules by hand? its just stucked

[weak oyster]

i passed member rank

[tall karma]

True enough, you should see those missions. There's 2 of them I think

They actually do work too, most of the time, for 30-40 mins of effort you can make 600-700k with a Hull C.

And you dont even have to leave the ship.

[weak oyster]

if i had the Hull C xd, well ill have the ironclad when its out

theres the 700k you were talking about

[tall karma]

Yup, and there's usually one from EH to somewhere, but in my experience loading cargo at EH fails the most.

[weak oyster]

they say hull c is bugged tho?

[coarse ember]

most of the time hull c docking is screwed but if you're lucky docking + autounload works

[tall vigil]

Do FLTR-XL modules stack?

[median anvil]

how many gems are roc minable rn?

[tall karma]

Here's the rub. Hull C missions can fail to load the entire cargo when you park in the box. That's OK, as long as it loaded more than 50% of the cargo, you can go deliver it and submit the mission for like 90% of the payout and 90% of the Rep.

[weak oyster]

ill stick with the c2 till ironclad i think unless i get it ingame

[tall karma]

Yeah, absolutely an in-game purchase. Would not recommend Hull C pledge until its worked out. I think the Hull C is actually cheaper or the same price range as the C2 in game also.

[weak tinsel]

all modules stack
it is also multipicative stacking not additive

[weak oyster]

ironclad will be XL pad?

[tall karma]

Not to mention the ironclad is only 1500 SCU and loaded manually, so the Hull C will still be easier to haul with once that launches.

[weak tinsel]

Lalt+k keybind to Unlock ports or F+RMB radial menu option, both do the same
get the module on the ground
move it into the green zone around the head and release tractor
then go back and again Lalt+k or the other to lock ports

i have personally not tried to do this on any mining ship so it might be wrong

[coarse ember]

i would imagine it would get the same treatment as polaris/890j where it's all XL for hangars and docking arms

i cant fathom them making a xxl hangar just for one ship

[weak tinsel]

then they could use the xxl for other big ships tho

[coarse ember]

yeah ig

[weak tinsel]

but imo no point
would be nice to finally see large landing pads on stations like old port olisar
but then we would need some way to avoid greifing etc

[tall karma]

The Ironclad probably gets a Large hangar. Its smaller than a Carrack (which only gets a large hangar despite having to go in at an angle due to the turret guns on the side).

Carrack dimensions:
126.5m long / 76.5m wide / 30m high
Ironclad:
120m long / 52m wide / 20m high

TBH, large hangar ships are a lot more usable than XL hangars. This would play into the Ironclad's favor when taking it to stations for loading cargo. You don't want a hauler that can't haul at most of the stations because they don't have XL Hangar support and it won't have auto-load cargo loading like the Hull C therefore it needs to be in a Large or smaller hangar to be able to support the hauling mission options.

[weak oyster]

oh sounds about right

shitty job eh

[inland spire]

do I need to wait certain time before retrieving the ship I just loaded a refinery collection onto?
I feel like I've just started asking random questions about each and every action in the game, because every single thing apparently has these weird rituals that you need to do unless you trigger a random stupid bug known and unfixed for years

do I need to turn around three times before opening ASOP?

[weak tinsel]

just as i have explained before
ya need to be in the hangar to do it

[inland spire]

I'm in the hangar

I retrieved and stored the ship

I collected the work order onto the ship

now I'm worried about retrieving it again in a wrong way or something

[weak tinsel]

nah just do it

if the cargo does not show up store and retrieve should be there
if no [*]

[inland spire]

everything seems to be there, and is detachable 😌 I'm actually surprised

I fully expect the cargo to randomly disappear on the way to selling it

[weak tinsel]

i feel ya man

[weak oyster]

these better to load vertically ?

[weak tinsel]

dont think there is a difference

[torn obsidian]

Powerwashing simulator>salvaging

[red sierra]

anyone had problems with the hauling missions cargo not showing up in your inventory where you are supposed to pick it up

[weak tinsel]

nice wall of gems

[inland spire]

what is this supposed to mean?

I'm selling stuff that I do have on my ship, what's that stock that's supposedly insufficient?

[weak tinsel]

Stock is FULL

[inland spire]

why would it be in the "in demand" section then

[weak tinsel]

in demnad is We Buy This

where you sellin and what ya sellin?

[inland spire]

selling beryl at HUR-L1

[weak tinsel]

a refinery buys refined material

nothing wrong on your side

i always was thinking this is not possible

[inland spire]

UEX lists it as top price

[weak tinsel]

well not planetside selling is often met with a full stock since stations dont have much capacity

[inland spire]

good to know 👍

[weak tinsel]

while you can lose like 5 to 10 % of the price selling at TDD's is much more convinient

[inland spire]

"insufficient stock" is a mind-boggling message to display in that situation though

[weak tinsel]

yeah it is dum as hell

but they will not bother to change or add a fucking 2 word line of text

[inland spire]

and the "local market" tab lists it as "out of stock"; I would read this as "we're empty and would love to buy some", not as "we re out of negative stock" apparently

[spring flame]

whats more worth C1 or Zeus cl for ingame money

[weak tinsel]

as in to buy for in game money or to make money ?

[spring flame]

buy with ingame money to use

[weak tinsel]

this site has this info along with a bunch more
https://www.erkul.games/live/calculator

and i can tell you in a moment

[weak oyster]

this one good for the size

[weak tinsel]

C1 is 3mil
Zeus is 6mil

[spring flame]

i wanna get a C2 eventually but i want a mid point for carrying refined ore from my golem

[weak tinsel]

you can rent a RAFT
it also costs 3mil
it is such a easy to load and i like its looks

[spring flame]

i might go do that the raft does look nice

[weak tinsel]

the raft has two imo really minor downsides

1. No space for a ATLS but the atls is useless for how easy it is to move cargo on the raft
2. its flight is a bit cloky, you feel the brick shape of it but imo its not bad since flying is the least amount of time when doing cargo and its not bad just specific

oh i did not know discord does punctation

[weak oyster]

hmm 32SU boxes are sure a bitch to load

[weak tinsel]

[red sierra]

they are fine in a c2

or a raft lmao

[weak tinsel]

he is doing exactly that and is not fine

[vale vortex]

32 SCU boxes are a little bit hard on the second "floor" of the cargo

[red sierra]

[vale vortex]

Because there are struts or things on the ceilling that make them hard to stack

[weak oyster]

yea on the end it does

bit of atls and manual

[vale vortex]

but on the RAft they should go as easy as it gets, it is basically the gimmick of the Raft

[weak tinsel]

i want a XL raft

like make it hold stacks of 4 32SCU per holder

[quiet night]

currently in it now shifting 32scu crates about

[weak tinsel]

he dont got the orange paint

H E R E S Y

[quiet night]

lol yeah, not the biggest fan for the simple reason i like my ships to match and black or very dark colours can be used on my current ships

[weak tinsel]

makes sense

[quiet night]

im surprised they don't just monetize lettings us at least pick basic colours for our ships

[weak tinsel]

we could also just get them for in game money?

[quiet night]

yeap id be happy with that

[coarse ember]

for some ships like the 300i series on pledge you can pay to get some diff colours by customizing them

[weak oyster]

loaded

[spring flame]

whats the work around for the refined ore cargo getting stuck im about to go complete an order

[pearl juniper]

there are a few skins you can buy in game. Just not for very many ships.

[weak tinsel]

hold on

To avoid the cargo stuck bug

Assuming you do not have cargo stuck to your ship, if you do claim a new one
Go into your hangar
Retrieve the ship while you are in hangar looking at it go up
Give it a moment
Store the ship still waiting looking at it go, you may only leave when the warning light band goes down and normal light shows up
Worth checking if the ships is stored and not to claim since that can also happen

Now after this i have not seen the Detaching bug appear in my many cargo runs

To be sure it's a good practice to repeat this each time
And there is nothing you can do about that cargo, might as well count it as voided instantly

[spring flame]

thanks it worked

[weak oyster]

uh

i just dropped ATLS on me by accident and died -_-

[weak tinsel]

nice one

have you engulfed yourself into a box yet tho?

i rmb dropped one from above the atls and it ate me

[weak oyster]

i havent

[weak tinsel]

gotta ad it to the funky stuf bucket list heh

[weak oyster]

back to area 18 cargo was at everous

[weak oyster]

oh its here

[cobalt rivet]

is space mining broken?

[inland spire]

I not only got stuck in boxes twice, but actually managed to escape both times

[mild pumice]

I got stuck in an 8scu box once it was lolz

[weak tinsel]

Space mining should work, surface mining is broken

[wraith ice]

hey guys Roc vs Geo

[mild pumice]

Roc is more configurable but Geo can also do hand mining and big jumps!

The boxes are quite small so you have to change or empty them often, it's actually quicker to empty into a large backpack then into an SCU crate then to use multiple boxes I've found.

[inland spire]

is that a new thing? once I complete an unverified salvage contract, the trespassing alert disappears?

[tacit bone]

Question-- I relogged while doing hauling contracts and lost the contracts, but still have the boxes. Can I sell the boxes somewhere for money?

[south roost]

i havent set foot in pyro. whats the best spot to mine with a golem? also where should i be refining and selling?

[elfin rune]

Does surface rocks ( golem/mole/prospector size ) work or theres something broken?

[tacit fossil]

I am not new to the game, but I am new to mining. I have a question for everyone. When you refine and you get like 834 cscu of a material, does it round up or down? Meaning do I get 8 SCU of the material or 9 SCU of the material?

[ornate halo]

Up IIRC

[dreamy plover]

Does the reclaimer have 2 salvage seats? for 2 people to do it?

thinking of getting it for me an my buddy but if theres only 1 seat to salvage then nah

[coarse ember]

yeah it has 2 scraping beam seats for scraping rmc then pilot and co pilot controls the fracturing arm

[weak oyster]

i must say i prefer putting the 32su boxes than those 16su ones

[dreamy plover]

whats the diff between scraping beam and fracturing arms?

i have the vulture now but im thinking of buying it for me and my buddy to use

im guessing the heads on it are pretty good and dont need to be swapped for anything?

[hoary hinge]

Nope
Drop both cinch heads
Buy another abrade

[dreamy plover]

really? so the reclaimer doesnt salvage any faster than a vulture solo?

[ornate halo]

A Reclaimer head salvages a little faster- but Solo the vulture has two heads so wins

[dreamy plover]

Now im torn on getting it

the space tho i guess

[ornate halo]

The space and not having to move single SCU boxes

I love living in a Reclaimer. If I could shove a golem in there somehow, I'd never land

Buut- if I'm not trying to crack big ships and I just want something quick, I gotta lean Vulture

[dreamy plover]

im just debaiting trying to learn mining or getting the reclaimer yea

cant decide

i thought the reclaimer would salvage quicker with premium heads or some crap lol

i rented a mole/prospector but i could only break crappy rocks nothing of size worth money max load was like 100k so didnt feel worth, but im curious about investing into the Mole solo or maybe the prospector if it break larger rocks to upgraded

ill have a duo occationally why i say the mole maybe

[ornate halo]

Try prospector first to get the hang of it and see if you like it

[dreamy plover]

i liked renting the mole cause the cargo size, just was frustrating not being able to buy the right upgrades to break the rocks with high selling ore, had to settle for the cheap stuff lol

[next cloak]

does the atls geo mineables work now?

[dreamy plover]

ive tested it twice today, not for me

but i also havent tested in pyro people say it works there more often

[south basin]

Any reliable place to sell Beradom yet?

[ornate halo]

https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/beradom/

[south basin]

I went to the places listed and it never shows up in the selling list.

To some of* the places

Mainly around MT.

[ornate halo]

I can confirm it works in Seraphim

Did you make sure that there was a demand? they may have been sold out

[south basin]

It wasn't even listed on the sell window pane.

As I understood if there was no demand it would at least be listed but you wouldn't be able to sell any units.

[vivid river]

2 seats for scrappers
1 for pilot
1 for claw

[dreamy plover]

in this video they have a stampede module at the bottom, but seems theres a weird placeholder thingy where mine is? i have a module purchased

[south roost]

askin again: i havent set foot in pyro. whats the best spot to mine with a golem? also where should i be refining and selling?

[frail onyx]

is there a trick to get commodities to show up that are on ships (and thus sell them with an auto-unload cut) - my fully loaded cat is showing up with it's stuff in the hangar, but the comoditiy term shows 0/576

[strong pewter]

no way! 28k!

[south basin]

In thumbnail this almost looks like a Wing Commander screenshot.

[fallen osprey]

Hey yall where do I pick up my refinery orders?

I placed a couple Monday or tuesday night

[pearl juniper]

Go back to the refinery, send them to a cargo ship

[fallen osprey]

can we just put them in our invintory to move later?

[frail onyx]

nope

[fallen osprey]

Also... what size boxes are they going to be in...

[frail onyx]

it's going to "make them fit"

[fallen osprey]

I need to put them in a ship...

[pearl juniper]

The biggest possible that will fit your ship

[frail onyx]

yep

it stinks

kinda

[fallen osprey]

I am going to need to unload my C1...

[frail onyx]

i mena it's free instant loading

good luck

[fallen osprey]

thanks ill take it lol

[fallen osprey]

what are you suppose to do if you dfont have a ship lol

[frail onyx]

I don't think they plan the feature that way, but you can prolyl rent something

[pearl juniper]

Rent one. Or sell the ore for half price without refining

[hybrid spoke]

Can the Argo Mole be used solo or should I rent the prospector?
I bought the Golem game package yesterday morning and while its very useful as a starter for getting some credits early, it lacks power for for some asteroid being marked as impossible. Found several with quantanium.
Prospector it is

[hoary hinge]

refineries are at Stanton Gateway, Ruin, Checkmate, Orbituary
Sell as you like, use UEX to find where you can sell, try to avoid ground stations.
Terminus belt is one of the places you can mine

[pearl juniper]

Yeah, you can solo the mole. It's a little tedious, and there's a learning curve to positioning the ship right, but it's doable. Much more powerful with a extra person or two though. And it's perhaps the best "multi crew" gameplay that exists right now.

[fallen osprey]

So... whats the best w2ay to make credits atm?

Does the new missions pay well? or

[open trout]

how do i sell refined ores? They are stuck in my cargo hold. TCC wont see them and I cant tractor them out.

[fallen osprey]

this whole manual unloading is a drag lol

[strong pewter]

You cant sell RMC from your vulture even though the ship comes up as a possible point of sale in the Commodities menu?

[torn obsidian]

Dont worry just use the ATLS. If it works right for once.

[tall karma]

The ship selection is broken, usually you need to pick the ship listed above the one you are targeting to see the inventory. Also, all the cargo has to be stacked on the grid to be auto-unload eligible.

Sometimes the ship name will be your name

[fallen osprey]

Hey yall,

So in my drake golem it says a asteroid is impossible to break

can I still break it if i use a -50 resistance modifier tool?

[fallen osprey]

Thats what the C1s tractor beam is for

[strong pewter]

awesome, 80k worth of argo bags gone, sweet

[regal tide]

why is this stopping this Vehicle

[umbral dust]

Just get the vulture, it's best bang for the in game buck on paying for itself. Conmat is worth fuck all and you need to scrape a lot of ships to pay for the reclaimer.

[median anvil]

i have around 5 mil now from roc mining what do you guys recommend i do next i want what makes the best money solo

[weak oyster]

yesterday i did 10 hours hauling

[elfin rune]

I came here to say i cant make money with the golem

[weak oyster]

at start?

[weak tinsel]

In what way

[weak tinsel]

Hauling ships for trade or mole or prospector for mining
Or a combat one for bounties

[median anvil]

whats the best ship i can buy or rent rn with the money i have for hauling

[weak tinsel]

I love the RAFT for its ease of use, 96 SCU cargo
Rental for if I'm correct 100k/day
Buy for 3.5mil
A Taurus I think is around 6mil not sure, 170SCU ish
Larger ships are 9mil or more

[median anvil]

what do you think i should buy or rent

[weak tinsel]

Any constellation series is ok the other variants than the Taurus have 96scu
A C1 while a bit eh to load cargo into is cheap and has 96SCU

For simpler hauling tasks I recommend the RAFT, for more volume of goods larger ships would be better

I would also recommend renting first to see how you feel with it
And this goes for any purchases in game

[craggy tapir]

70k actually

raft is one of the best ships to rent early game for hauling

with the hull a for smaller contracts

[median anvil]

alr ty

[median anvil]

is it worth renting when i have 5mil already?

[craggy tapir]

probably ye

[median anvil]

or should i rent a taurus?

[weak tinsel]

Always better to rent just to see if ya like it

[craggy tapir]

raft for hauling

[weak tinsel]

Try both imo

[weak oyster]

can you rent the hull c?

[craggy tapir]

taurus for a bit of fighting and hauling

no hull c renting

[median anvil]

i dont care how it controls or how it looks i just want the most money lol

[weak tinsel]

RAFT is cheaper and easier to use for cargo imo

Taurus has more space for cargo but not as easy to load

[median anvil]

where can i rent or buy raft

[weak oyster]

made this much progress on the rank now

[craggy tapir]

raft is in lorville

when you go to lobby from hangar, the renting terminal should be right infront of ya

[weak tinsel]

Also you can buy it al lorville

[weak oyster]

hmm this one

[weak tinsel]

That's just 5 contracts stacked into one

Would it not make more money taking 5 smaller ones ?

[weak oyster]

2 locations tho and same stuff isnt that better

[weak tinsel]

Oh I can't read

[weak oyster]

this the best way to load it?

[weak tinsel]

The only time I was loading a C2 I was loading in centurions so no idea

[weak oyster]

for the 32 ones back horizontal and center vertically

i prefter the bigger crates over those 16 su

[hybrid spoke]

I agree that it's more annoying with the golem. It may be a starter ship that holds 32 SCU but the mining laser on it prevents you from getting anything of real value as a great many asteroids are marked as impossible. I do like it's handling and lack of an interior tho I do wish it were either a bit stronger or had more quantum fuel.

[spring flame]

What’s a normal sell value of a mining trip with the other mining ships cus I have only had experience in the golem

Obviously it depends on what you mine but more of just a estimate cus it is annoying when you find impossible asteroids

[weak tinsel]

Since space mining is the only one working rn its is really hard for the golem to make it

With a mole where I dont min max best ore i usually end up with around 200k to 300k a haul
One haul is usually 30min or 45min if I'm unlucky
On the odd chance of a good deposit I can make around 800k on rare ores
Never found a large quant rock but that can make you 2mil for a haul

[hybrid spoke]

The most I've made in one haul with the Golem is 68k which isn't bad for working your way up to rent a big ship but I get less than 50k usually.

Can you run the Mole solo or are you teaming up with people and splitting it?

[weak tinsel]

Solo since 4.0

Mining with two in a mole is 1/2 the profit and not much faster
I will always say that mining in two solo moles is MUCH more efficient than one mole with two

[hybrid spoke]

With the prospector it's honestly the same. The difference being time spent as the Prospector has significantly more fuel and is faster

[weak tinsel]

Before I mined as two in one but we also just pooled the money for ships
One time I buy the other my friend

50k isn't bad for 32 scu of ore
When planetside mining is back to working finding a good ish deposit is basically one scan after arriving on the planet
So that makes it much faster and easier

[hybrid spoke]

That's good to know honestly. I'll be renting one tomorrow for sure.
Maybe I'll make a friend along the way to rent one of them cargo ships.

[spring flame]

Yeah I have made 150k refined on the golem in one run but the golem definitely fits in its starter spot for mining

[weak tinsel]

A solo mole for rent has not been good to me but mainly cuz of other problems than the mole itself
It also does not have that much power at the start, a golem has more than it but the golem also has the +25% resistance

[hybrid spoke]

My biggest issue thus far has been getting overzealous with landing 😂

[weak tinsel]

Yeah from what little info i find of people here playing with the golem it is really nicely fitted for a starter and makes you use all the bits of additional stuff for mining

[weak tinsel]

A lil SLAM on the deck?

[spring flame]

Just lightly hit the pad a full speed

Also with the golem I keep getting the torque imbalance or whatever it’s called without hitting anything

[weak tinsel]

Haha

It is literally the permanent state of any miner

Basically when a rock brakes even when no red zone is charged
It does a tiny explosion in a certain radius
It does like 5dmg and if ANY thrusters are within range they get hit for like 1hp
Now they count as damaged and we have no minor torque imbalance so you get the big red alert

[spring flame]

Also when you say planet mining is messed up what is actually happening cus I have not tried planet mining

[weak tinsel]

If you overcharge a rock the AOE of the explosion can be even 500m of a shit ton of dmg and easily one shot you in close distance to the rock

[weak tinsel]

When you ping rocks show up
But you can not scan them or mine them
They are not physical

Its is due to servers having insane ping on their side
So severs slowly talk to each other
You dont feel it with most of the game
It mainly affects mining and inventory interactions

[spring flame]

So when planet mining gets fixed what would be better for mining between two planet and asteroids

[dusty hedge]

Hey guys....I am heavily investing my time into the cargo business and am pushing my covalex rep. My meta was to use the ATLS and a C2 for the main part. But the C2 is really not appealing to me. So I went for the Argo Raft which is in an odd space imho. Can anybody explain to me how the Raft is going to compete against other cargo ships without any tractor, a way to store an ATLS and a non functional support console. How is the latter going to work anyway?

[regal tide]

Is there a list of scanning codes like ICE had?

[spare cloud]

RS signatures you mean ? There's one in the pins yeah, and it's also available on regolith.rocks

[vestal ravine]

I like the simplicity of the Golem and using a Stampede and a Reiger with it in the Yela asteroids. One trip easy 45 minutes from CRU L1. Just wish the ore bags were bigger. On one trip I brought back 3 SCU of Quant but that was rare.

[spring flame]

Can you detach the ore bags on the golem

[sour socket]

yess

[mild pumice]

still no luck surface mining, was really hoping the hotfix would help 😦

[craggy tapir]

i had some luck mining in the hathor cave

only for someone to steal my geo...

[mild pumice]

yeah I got some hadanite in a cave but none of these have worked for me yet - tried the Roc too just in case

[weak tinsel]

Hathor caves seem to have a priority to work perfectly for some reason

[median anvil]

whats the best vulture build for the arms?

[median anvil]

what ship is that in the background

[mild pumice]

zoos

[median anvil]

what the actual name

[strong pewter]

Hey all, when I get back from mining with my prospector, and I send the ship down to store with all my ore in it. Does that store my ores into the station? Or do I HAVE to start a refinery job right then and there to clear the ships inventory? If so, is there any other way to store ores from the ship?

[weak tinsel]

Zeus