industrial-professions

[royal hamlet]

AFAIK no, they didn't patch.

The best method for the MOLE is the one for 192 SCU and you don't need to buy anything.

[vivid obsidian]

Dang...dunno what I'm doing wrong then. Can anyone confirm if it works with a rental? I only ask because I can switch laser and modules with tractor beam, but not the qt drive. So I'm wondering if that's my block

[royal hamlet]

I'm 99% certain it won't work with a rental.

[vivid obsidian]

I'm gonna buy the mole anyways. I just want to use the rented since I have 6 more days if that's podsible

[royal hamlet]

Make that 99.999%

[vivid obsidian]

Damn

[royal hamlet]

Do you have someone in your org that can lend you a MOLE?

[vivid obsidian]

I do but wouldn't he have to play the whole time? We tried before and It vanished when he menu logged

[royal hamlet]

If not, DM me and we can connect in-game and I can lend you my MOLE and also help.

[royal hamlet]

Yeah that's the problem, but, if you have 192 SCU capacity you save a lot of time and hopefully enough for you to get the ore to the refinery.

[vivid obsidian]

How do I refinery jobs from ore in other people's ships tho?

Isn't it the same way as storage?seperate

[royal hamlet]

Ah yes, you're right. I keep forgetting about that limitation.

@vivid obsidian I sent you a DM.

[ornate halo]

You dont- unless you get those bags onto one of your mining ships.

Somethign like that- you can rent a prospector and do a switch. Can be a bit of a pain, but it will work

[vital thicket]

Any advice on how to use an atlas without omg why am I spinning thats a wall oh look space now I'm dead

[hollow sedge]

any workaround for the salvage priority mission cargo not being recognised? Sent 14 CMAT and 7 RMC down but only the CMAT registered. Guessing this is b0rked?

[weak tinsel]

i have no idea
it worked for me then broke
i tried to take it from a ground outpost pad but when it got into my hangar it broke again
the spawn on outpost works with broken cars so might be worth a try

[vital thicket]

I've had it work fine like 6 times then go borked and I've had it go borked 4 times in a row I can't seem to find a pattern to it

Also mag boots would be fire on an atlas walk up the walls

[inland spire]

can the starlancer max fit 300ish scu? how much does it fit off-grid?

[mild pumice]

Bout an extra 64scu, maybe 80 at a squeeze but the last bit of space by the ramp like to yeet boxes into the ceiling lol

I tend to go max 16scu boxes in the Starlancer because 24s and 32s are a pain

[inland spire]

well I'll be damned. I've finally encountered a bug that's beneficial for once

that vulture hopper sharding issue? I did fill up my hold, but decided that I'm going to finish scrapping the debris cloud I was already in, so I did bring 7scu in the hopper. back in port, it turned out that it had not disappeared, and I unloaded it fine. then I headed back to the halo, and what do you know, in my hopper I still have those 7scu that I already unloaded

[mild pumice]

Nice

[ornate halo]

You can hit somewhere abouit 400+ in the SLMax- if you want to go down to 2's and such, but at that points its an incredible PITA

[inland spire]

fun fact: if you route from CRU to ARC-L3, the halo is at 13.8Gm left to ARC-L3, but, and that's a very big "but", depending on where around CRU you are, you can completely miss the halo

my understanding was that the halo is 5000km thick, but from this relationship with CRU position it sounds like it's thinner than CRU's diameter

if CRU is straight behind you when you're aimed at ARC-L3, you will hit the halo (i.e. you're roughly on the line between CRU's centre and ARC-L3); if you're above it or below it (with regard to the orbital plane), you will miss it

probably amplified by the fact that the halo is only about 4.something Gm from CRU (so it's an incredibly convenient trip, very close to a major port)

oh, so it seems about right, as I just looked up that CRU's diameter is almost 15Mm

I guess I hadn't really appreciated it's scale

so probably best bet is to jump to OM-3/4/5/6 (but not 1 or 2) and aim for ARC-L3 from there

[vivid river]

ight what is this halo i keep seein?

[mild pumice]

The Aaron halo is an asteroid belt in Stanton, it used to be on the starmap but you can find it using triangulation and dropping out of QT at set distances

[inland spire]

is there any practical use for the convergence controls for scavenging heads? I mean other than they sometimes diverge after you've used a single head and switch back to both heads and you need to pull them back together?

[merry prism]

If you use UEX and see that gold is sold at rods and you can sell it at rats is that a pretty decent payour using a freelancer max?

[inland spire]

does rmc on panels regenerate over time? when I'm in a particularly large debris cloud so I spend quite a while there, I eventually start seeing panels that are partially scraped, and they're all scraped in these straight rectangular patterns you can't make with a scraper beam, is rmc growing back in real time?

when I arrived at this cloud the first several panels started off at 100% remaining, and the more I scrapped the more often I started bumping into panels at 23%, 76%

[inland spire]

same thing happened again, but this time with a full 13 SCU in hopper 🤑

[leaden monolith]

If you're trying to find the Aaron Halo the site below gives you routes and distances to drop out in any of the 10 bands.

https://cstone.space/resources/knowledge-base/36

[river helm]

do we have a workaround for the refinery yet 👀

[pearl juniper]

for the issue getting stuff out? Just server hop. Usually works for me.

[desert lantern]

come april 7th and i get another buyback token should i go hull c or caterpillar which is more worth it in the current patch

[open plaza]

How do I equip my mole

[tepid sonnet]

Why can't I fracture it? What does power on mean?

[craggy tapir]

the ship is on
you need to turn it off (press u) when flying the ship

then you can fracture

[tepid sonnet]

How is turning my ship off going to help...?

[craggy tapir]

not your ship

the aurora

[tepid sonnet]

Oh... ew.

[open plaza]

soft death it

i think

[tepid sonnet]

It has strong shields. Fortune remember?

[open plaza]

?

The aurora?

Strong shields?

[weak tinsel]

2k hp at best lol

[tepid sonnet]

I only have 2 S1s.

[craggy tapir]

you have a gun?

just shoot open the door on the aurora

[inland spire]

the Halo is right next to Crusader's orbit, but Cornerstone doesn't have any useful routes for Crusader; all the routes to/from Crusader are 29-38Gm away from Crusader. my route is about 4.2Gm from Crusader, so it's particularly convenient for panel salvaging close to port

[mild pumice]

There were supposed to be mining stations in the Halo, hopefully we get them one day

[hollow sedge]

Do panels spawn at a greater rate in the halo than at lagrange points?

[glad ivy]

More than enough

Hull C is glorious when it works. Shame about the time you decide to try commodities in it and get 'Unclaimed Cargo' on your screen from now until the next patch for the low price of 1.2mil

[inland spire]

I haven't done much panel salvaging at lagrange points, but I don't have any complaints about spawn rates in the halo

very rarely it's bad and I have to spend like 5-10min looking for a debris cloud; I can almost always find a sizeable cloud within a minute or two of arriving

it's not rare to find a cloud big enough to fill the vulture with plenty to spare

most often I get 3-4 pieces of debris in a cloud, but I've encountered clouds of 8-10 multiple times

[lament wadi]

Yo I looked for planets with tin on regolith and they don't have tin.. is it that rare?? Or it's takes hours to respawn? Idk

[olive talon]

Does anyone know what salvage modules I should use for the Reclaimer? Trawler or Abrade...?

[river helm]

I did it for an hour last night with no luck for a single working terminal

[weak tinsel]

what do you mean by not having tin? did you not find any tin in a deposit or multiple ? and what place did you go to look for tin

[lament wadi]

Tbh idk about deposit I just fly around and ping

[weak tinsel]

what location are you scanning at? and have you tried going to a rock and scanning it fully?

[lament wadi]

Pyro I've and ignis and other moons

I saw a lot of signals like 1800

But none of them were the signals for tin

[weak tinsel]

the signals are not 100% a good reference imo
sometimes there is that resource there and the ping wont show it
and going somewhere with a 30% or more might just do the trick

and remember that mining is RNG
one day you find nothing for hours and another instantly find the good stuff

[lament wadi]

So should I just go to a planet and roam it randomly until I find tin?

[weak tinsel]

i do that and it works
never bothered figuring signals out

[lament wadi]

Wdym ? So how do you decide if to go to the signal?

[weak tinsel]

just go lol

if you see a signal
point at it and do max focus in scanning mode
if you are around 8km and its a minable rock cluster it will split the one ping marker into multiple markers
thats how you know there are minable rocks
go to it scan every one and see if it has what you want

[lament wadi]

How you do
that?

Max focus

[weak tinsel]

these are scans at 0% 50% and 100% focus

the bar fills up with scrolling
max ping focus has the max distance but minimal diameter of ping
its a reskin of the old UI that showed ping angles

[lament wadi]

Ok

[weak tinsel]

idk how to explain it really
i just know how it works and the new UI is really bad at showing it
tho maybe the ping values do work and im just ingnorant to lerning how

[lament wadi]

Got it thanks I'll lok for longer

[weak tinsel]

but the scans is how i do it and it works to point out a cluster to which i go and scan the rocks from up close

[split junco]

Anybody else been having issues with the reclaimer not producing salvage? The beams will still look like they're working, but it shows 0 cscu/min and no salvage goes to the hold.

[weak tinsel]

is there a range lmitation like in mining?

[split junco]

not as far as I know There is a range limitation, but I wasn't too far away, it was working at these ranges earlier -- it even made about 4 SCU of RMC before just stopping for no reason

both beams wouldn't work

[weak tinsel]

i would try flying a bit closer and checking the dispensers

[split junco]

the claw didn't produce anything either

[split junco]

the dispensers didn't have any more either

[weak tinsel]

well i cant help much more than this since i dont know much about salvage

[split junco]

thanks anyway

[tepid sonnet]

2 S1 panthers I think.

[mild pumice]

Bulldogs then

[red sierra]

does anyone have the chart that shows how big of rocks you can break with different lasers/combos

its not in pins

[inland spire]

just how heavy is the atls if the maxgrip can barely drag it around 😖

[knotty dove]

Well its weighted down with players family jewels so pretty heavy

[weak tinsel]

laser power / 0.2

[weak tinsel]

the 0.2 is not right ??

idk i found it and seems to work ok

[spare cloud]

Idk, haven't seen myself.
/0.2 = x5 btw

[weak tinsel]

looks more fancy and smart that way imo

[spare cloud]

And prone to errors

[inland spire]

how come the ATLS is not picking up these? (the tractor beam is active in the shot)

maxlift can't pick them up from the front either works from the side tho

[median isle]

any way to fix the "unclaimed cargo awaiting transfer" marker? tried some commodities, burned a few a mil and now i'm back to contracts

(hull c)

[weak tinsel]

i had the same poblem
swapped server and it worked

[spare cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/92000849236066304/1292939636494041240/IMG_5256.gif

[rare cove]

Can someone tell me if I can stack 2 Rieger c3 ? I heard you can’t. But then I’m watching a video that 2 months old and saw this guy said run 2 of them but 3 months ago another guy said you can’t.

[weak tinsel]

i had 3

it was 175% power

didnt reallly test it on rocks that are at my mass limit since i didn't find any
but 2 rieger setup works 100%

[spare cloud]

195%
#industrial-professions message

Two Rieger C3 -> 156%
Rieger C3 + Surge -> 187%
Two Rieger C3 + Surge -> 234%

[weak tinsel]

so its not additive ?

hmm

then ship ui lies

[spare cloud]

Ship is correct

156%, as it should

[rare cove]

Thx also what do I do when my work order saids proccessed but l can’t put it on my ship. I already jumped to a new server and still saids it.

My c2 is st my location

[spare cloud]

Keep hopping servers until you find a working terminal

You are able to use the terminal even with the "processing" message, but not always will the collect order work

[rare cove]

Cool. Last questions. Would a Helix
Rieger c3 ,surge, stampede be the best solution to hit big rocks. Or 2 c3 sorry just don’t do much mining. I have that an impact and hofstede setup

[weak tinsel]

more power = bigger rock

so rieger and surge are best for maximum mass

[rare cove]

Alright thx

[spare cloud]

Rieger-C3 + Surge + Stampede is the best hit for big rocks, but I so rarely see a rock that requires that much power, I'd rather run 2x RiegerC3 + Surge

I don't know if active modules of the same type stacks, most likely they do, but in that case the biggest raw power is 3x Surge.
337% power

[hollow sedge]

is there a workaround for the station elevators not accepting RMC as part of the priority salvage missions? just refuses to take my RMC, but CMAT is fine. All legit and salvaged myself

[rare cove]

Alright bc I don’t know if my build is the greatest. But I believe it is for are play style rn

[merry cipher]

I wonder , will these professions make us self sufficient in base building ? Like going out and mining xyz and cracking hulls in order to build an outpost , or will we still be dependent on other things …. I realize it’s all speculation until it’s not … but I’d like for these professions to have a purpose other than selling resources for credits

[rare cove]

We will find out more when it gets closer to base building

[spare cloud]

Bld requires both mining and salvage afaik.

[rare cove]

is there a Fix or something for cargo i finally got to deliver it on my c2 called my c2 up nothing on it

is there a way i can get the cargo back or something bc i didnt spend all the time getting the stuff and spending money also wait a day just to loose it

[weak tinsel]

store and take back out

the ship that is

[rare cove]

okay thx, did that and it worked, i was getting a bit worried

[weak tinsel]

to avoid that
go into hangar
retrieve the ship and wait looking at it
then hide while also waiting till the yellow ish "warning" signs disappear then go take the order out

[inland spire]

love it when 3/4 of my contract cargo bugs out

[languid tendon]

Sheeeeeeeesh

[spare cloud]

You want some of my pixels ?

[languid tendon]

its a snip of a picture lol my b

cropping it made it look horrendous lmao

clustering is beautiful tho

[fallen osprey]

hey yall where can I buy tin and pressurized ice from?

[inland spire]

I'm doing an unverified scrape contract, and for some reason my scrapers aim is off?

the point that heats up is not where the beam is pointing?

[bitter gust]

sc-trade.tools is a pretty solid website for finding materials in regards to selling and buying. Quantities accessible aren't listed I believe.

[fallen osprey]

you gotta link?

[bitter gust]

https://sc-trade.tools/home

[fallen osprey]

thanks

[fallen osprey]

btw how do i go back to stanton?

I used the jump point 2x and somehow ended up in Pyro...

like... I went to stanton gateway and used the point...

and spits me out in Pyro

[hoary hinge]

That's usually server fuckery, try a server hop

[bitter gust]

I have 0 experience with Pyro unfortunately

[fallen osprey]

thank you much

ill server hop

[inland spire]

what does it mean when I don't get a timer for an illegal salvage?

is there no time limit then?

or you just don't know how much time you got

has this never happened to anybody?

[inland spire]

I think my QD just crashed me into Crusader

I was aimed at an OM, but it somehow was going askew and slammed into the planet? wtf

woke up in hospital

for some reason in Lorville?

probably primary residence, even though my imprint is supposed to be in Orison

[hoary hinge]

You should check it out, it's nowhere near as scary as some industrial players seem to think, and the Terminus Belt is great for mining

[inland spire]

oh no wait, I am in Orison, it just said "Lorville" on the loading screen for some reason

[hoary hinge]

Yeah hospital loading screens are frequently cooked for no apparent reason

[bitter gust]

Thanks, and yeah I've been paranoid about it

[hoary hinge]

To me it's not less dangerous than Stanton
In Pyro a player can murderise me for fun
In Stanton the game can bug me for no reason
||I've been killed by a player once in Pyro since 4.0||

[inland spire]

what happens if you miss the deadline for unverified salvage contract? do you get a crimestat, do ships just come in shooting?

[pearl juniper]

assuming resistance = zero, yes.

[pearl juniper]

I posted the spreadsheet a couple days ago to do it for any combo of lasers and modules. Here it is again. You'll need excel

[pearl juniper]

yeah, I have the same problem tonight 😦 In the past, server hopping always worked for me. Tonight, I have been to all four regions, some more than once, and I can't get my jobs out of MIC-L2

[regal tide]

how can I fix this all screens are doing this won't let me complete

[heavy thunder]

Does the Taurus always shake around when loading it up with cargo? Also... the tractor beam usually buggy? This thing is off-alignment with my crosshairs & doesn't like rotating cargo

[shell sorrel]

i had the same issue, never found a work around

[glad ivy]

Don't be. Exercise caution if you go into any planet's atmosphere and treat every other ship ping as someone that might try to shoot you down. If you're worried, bail.

The stations are all safe, the main stations slightly less so but still rare for stuff to kick off there.

I've been operating my RAFT and Cat around the system doing commodity trading, it's fine. Pay is good.

[candid bay]

Try both terminals, if no luck server/region hop until you find a working terminal.

[vivid river]

There is most definitely a timer
It starts once you are in the salvo area
If the risky contract (this is for stanton) dosent mention a time limit; 8k > 1h, 24k > 30min

[vivid river]

Cops show up in the salvo area

[regal tide]

Well that's lovely all my salvaging boxes I had in my Freight cargo is gone

[hasty bay]

Has the update dropped?

[inland spire]

what do they do though? shoot at you right away?

[mild pumice]

I've never waited around long enough to find out lol

@inland spire I encountered you issue with Salvage regenerating lol. Although I'm not complaining...

[vestal ravine]

I leave with 7 minutes left on the timer. I had a NPC Mantis pull up on me but I just flew away.

[mild pumice]

yeah I've had regular pirates spawn in the area I have never seen cops tho

stanton cops be at the galleria eating donuts

[drowsy kettle]

yo gonna try get back into mining, anything i should be aiming to do for money?

[spare cloud]

Supply or Die ores.
Copper, Corundum in Stanton
Tin, Ice in Pyro

[drowsy kettle]

cheers

[spare cloud]

And upgrade your Prospector to 96 SCU or MOLE to 192//240 SCU

[candid bay]

that's desync

[vivid river]

Yes :3 so be prepped to either gtfo or fight and then gtfo

Well that or power down and go to jail buit I'm guessing you don't want the 3rd option

[inland spire]

so it's a 3+ crimestat straight away?

[vivid river]

Yes

[inland spire]

(good to be prepared for a life of crime)

what if I'm just there, not salvaging?

[vivid river]

Im usually gone by then but I've had my scrap fights before

[inland spire]

although it's still trespassing

[vivid river]

.> they will probably give you a chance to power down/leave

And slap you with a cs 1 or 2

(Small fine)

[inland spire]

so if I need to unload the hopper during salvo, best would be to move out of trespass zone while doing it?

[vivid river]

Best to finish up the leave but yea that's the gist of it

You can still empty your hopper pretty quickly but I would only do so for the 1h time limits

[inland spire]

I'm more concerned about cases where the timer doesn't show up

which did happen yesterday

[vivid river]

That or tow the salvo outta the area then scrap

[inland spire]

I finished without anyone coming, but it's tense

huh, towing is actually not a bad idea

that brings me another question, how come the tractor can pull ships, but can't rotate them 🤔

if it's got power to move them, surely it should have enough to turn them?

[vivid river]

Ueaaa the 8k is 1h and 24k is 30min the time starts as soon as you are in the AO, (the mission will change from getting to the area to scrap the ship)

It can rotate, im at work so I dont know the key binds

[inland spire]

yeah, I did a couple of 1h ones and they did have a timer, then I did a bigger one and it didn't show a timer, which was a bummer

I've had no issue rotating panels, but doing the same thing with a ship just did nothing?

[vivid river]

Not all risky gives you a timer

It takes longer as ships are heavier thought you can't if it's too big

[inland spire]

moving them around is pretty fast and rotating seemed to not budge at all

[vivid river]

But that also usually means you can't eat the ship either

Its a button combo

.> gtg good luck salvaging

[inland spire]

the big one yesterday was a caterpillar, I realised I won't be able to fracture it but that's still okay, seems just the RMC from it can fill the hold so I won't have room for CMAT anyway 😅

[river helm]

anyone got a working refinery terminal in checkmate? if so can I join your server 👀

[lament wadi]

Yo what's cSCU,I've mines like 30 scu of ice but when I refined it it's showing 2000 cSCU

[spare cloud]

There's yield. You don't get 100% of what you put in as refined ores

[wary maple]

cSCU = Centi-SCU, so divide that 2069 by 100 to work out your SCU

[pale finch]

Just checking, do other people get 1 or 2 goes out of the optimax mining gadget before it disappears and is not found on the ground after splitting the rock? (did not overcharge the rock)

[lament wadi]

Dang so getting 60 of each is harder then I thought

[weak tinsel]

it is supposed to be there but sometimes the game detaches it badly and yeets it into orbit
i once got killed by one rocketing into me

[pale finch]

Ah fair enough, good to know it's not just me, frustrating that I have to keep replacing it though! Hopefully fixed at somepoint I guess

[weak tinsel]

i find it working a bit better in space
it never did disappear there but i did not mine as much there

[craggy tapir]

30Scu is 3000cScu

[spare cloud]

Try again

[craggy tapir]

i refined 1800 to 1706 resulting in 17scu

soooo

[spare cloud]

Just read yourself idk

[craggy tapir]

THE FUCKIN C

[spare cloud]

[craggy tapir]

I HATE MYSELF

im a moron

[spare cloud]

It's fine

[royal hamlet]

Just want to get some opinions on what would be the quickest way in making money with the 'Supply or Die' event as a last-minute rush? I have both the MOLE (192 SCU) and Prospector (80 SCU) for mining, but I can never find Ice so I'm giving up on that. I have a bit of copper but likely will need to mine both COR and COPP from scratch (I have a ton stuck in the outpost warehouses that I can't get to). Salvaging is another option with the Vulture. I just wasn't able to take advantage of the time in the past couple of weeks to make more money. Thank you in advance.

[inland spire]

unverified salvage with the vulture?

[vivid river]

I would defer to someone else for mining but last minute for salvo, best way grab a friend or rando and munch yalls own ships you'll get back easily the cost n coverage of any fees you'll have

Preferably find someone with a reclaimer for this

[royal hamlet]

The one factor that I don't know how tedeious and annoying it will be is, unloading all the 1 SCU cargo from the Vulture.

[vivid river]

If you do go with a reclaimer only print out 4scu boxes otherwise you'll be fighting with the elevator

Not too tedious as one might think

[royal hamlet]

Yeah, we have two in our org that have Reclaimers, but each time I heard them running it together, they all wanted to quit the game hahaha

[vivid river]

[royal hamlet]

How is the Reclaimer solo?

Doable?

[vivid river]

Its .... decent tbh

Needs a rework like no other but decent

Just.... keep in mind on the elevator doors and until your used to eyeing distance for the claw it'll be alot of back n forth

Otherwise 8/10

[royal hamlet]

What about panels in asteroid fields? That's just RMC?

I've scanned many where it was 20k+ so I know there's a lot out there, in Pyro anyway.

[vivid river]

Yea only rmc
I don't like em too much so I don't bother
I just like munching ships

[royal hamlet]

Roger that.

[inland spire]

it's tedious-ish, but you can only fit 39scu in the vulture, so it's not too bad

[royal hamlet]

And I assume the most efficient way of unloading is at the contract destination? Is that one place or does it alternate between Ruin, Orb, and Checkmate?

[inland spire]

I haven't done any actual SoD contracts, sorry; for the larger ones you probably want to unload close to where you're salvaging, then use a bigger cargo ship to deliver?

[vivid river]

If you dont wanna spend money or aUEC on a polaris & fortune, yea if solo, if with friend grab a cargo ship and unload as you go

[inland spire]

I believe both polaris and fortune are cash-only

[vivid river]

I dont have the info on hand so im just covering all bases

[inland spire]

oh I'm wrong I think?

[royal hamlet]

Yeah, I have a Caterpillar I could use, or someone in my org too can help with larger ships. I just want to see if mining for Corundum and Copper will be quicker (minus the refining time, which I don't have to do anything for that) or Salvaging with the Vulture. Ideally solo in case no one else can help.

[vivid river]

I belive just the polaris for cash only

[inland spire]

uexcorp says both should be available in game, but doesn't list them in the "to buy" section, so no idea

[vivid river]

Then yea cash only for both

[vivid river]

Cati works though I favor the C2

[inland spire]

or perhaps by "in game" it just means "flight ready" and not that you can buy it in-game

[vivid river]

Yes in-game on uex means flight ready

[royal hamlet]

I'm a Drake fan, and I bought the Pirate Caterpillar so I'm being stubborn and making it work 🙂 C2 is great, except for 16 SCU or larger crates on the sides don't stack easily. I've wasted a lot of time helping stack in the corners where the ceiling is rounded and makes it difficult.

[vivid river]

Yea

Also nice on the pirate skin

[royal hamlet]

Thanks. I was hoping big time I could just get the paint and buy the Cat in game, but nope. I upgraded from the Medipin to the P. Cat which wasn't a crazy cost difference (or at least that's what I keep telling myself so I feel better about spending more $$ lol)

[vivid river]

XD

Im lookin at upgrading my polairs into a kraken

I dunno yet though

[glad ivy]

The Cat is great but does really benefit from having a partner to help load/unload

[royal hamlet]

Yeah it'll speed things up for sure. If I'm loading 8+ SCU crates, I can manage no problem. I was able to run the 13M contract for Corundum and Copper using the Cat which meant making a few trips to/from Pyro gateway and to different stations for pick-up. I completed it in about an hour, solo.

[steady heron]

Got attacked by this dweeb at Pyro Gateway at the jump point today while in my Hull C with cargo. If he's in your server. Just look out. He ain't the best pilot so you're good in a non cargo ship.

[spare cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[inland spire]

do the "clean up" salvage jobs have a timer, or just the "risky" ones?

or is it the risky ones are 30min and the clean up ones are 60min?

[weak tinsel]

he do be real tho

[inland spire]

huh, the fully scraped cutlass I just fractured miraculously grew back all of its RMC after it broke up, so I scraped it a second time 😅

[patent nova]

with the reclaimer if you take say 8, or 16 scu boxes, you can open exterior and drop it out of the cargo hold

[vivid river]

The legal contracts have no time take as long as you want
Its only the risky contracts (as far as stanton is concerned, haven't delved too deep in pyro)

[inland spire]

there are separate "risky" and "clean up" contracts in the unverified tab

[vivid river]

8k risky is 1hr
24k risky is 30min
All unless the contract says otherwise

[inland spire]

the "clean up" ones don't have a fee but pay you to do it; I was asking about if those had a timer

[vivid river]

Give me like 2hrs and ill get back to you on this

Ill be home by that time

[young basin]

They have a 1 hour timer last time I've done them

[inland spire]

if I put two tractor beams on the vulture, will it be able to move heavy stuff around faster?

[knotty dove]

Quick question: does doing illegal salvage missions lead to getting better missions?

[inland spire]

if I don't get a trespass warning on salvage, does it mean that security will not arrive? I still have a timer, but what would be my infraction? if it's not trespassing, it should be legal salvage

[inland spire]

also, what's the hexagonal icon in salvage mode, next to remaining material and weight?

says "off" underneath?

[vivid river]

If you no longer have trespassing on your screen your safe no one will come for you

[vivid river]

That.... is a good question haven't tried that before

[vivid river]

I got no clue what your referring to but good thing I'm home now so I can check

[inland spire]

right underneath the "salvage heads" section, the icon on the right

[vivid river]

ahh that .... lemme hope on

im in the vc if you wanna/can join

ok im on now

@inland spire for the risky salvo clean up yes
8k --> 1rh limit
23k -->30min limit
13k--> im not actually sure but i believe 1hr
it apears the "salvage jobs" will say their time limit

[inland spire]

once you complete the contract the timer disappears; does that mean nobody will come, even if you're still trespassing?

(as the contract completes before you're done with the ship)

[vivid river]

i am unsure as i tend to dip out before that ever happens
but if CIG kept it the same from a few patches ago, then no they still come

buuut i would not take my word on that

i would honestly test that

[inland spire]

I'm currently trying the "tow ship out of trespass zone" approach, and that causes the contract to complete way before you've left the trespass zone

[vivid river]

gotta wait 3min for my vult to apear

is that with the second tow beam?

[vivid river]

i think it stands for the sheilds of the ship your salvaging

[inland spire]

ah

[vivid river]

aight i aint loggin back on till the update cause the prospector i was salvaging was not scrapping right

[inland spire]

should I be concerned if I get occasional "friendly fire" alert while salvaging?

do we know already when the update is happening?

[vivid river]

soon ;-;

no joke tho maybe this or next week

[vivid river]

.> i can not answer this as its up to the code gods to decide and no this is not a joke

[inland spire]

yeah I meant more like "one of these days" soon vs "run back to put ship into storage" soon 😅

[vivid river]

an in-between if you will

its time to start paying attention to the MOTD more closely

thats how close it is

[inland spire]

does RMC always grow back after fracturing the ship? happened a second time in a row

[naive vine]

What do i do if im trying to unload cargo with the hull c and when i press the dock - cargo selection it doesnt do anything?

[inland spire]

is it even possible to buy salvage tractor modules? cornerstone says "not sold directly or at all"

[vivid river]

no i dont belive so

i dont think they are sold anywhere yet

just take them off your vult and reclaim the ship

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[glass chasm]

Evening friends! Help me out here if you don't mind. I'm not grasping what the Focus III Mining Module does. I understood that it would enlarge the green area at the heat bar on the right during cracking. But why do I still get a tiny green area on every asteroid here with TWO Focus III modules on my laser? Like the green bar goes up easily, so they are easy to crack (and some even small, too) 😮 But the optimal window stays as tiny as before when I had 2x Rieger C3 on instead, with similar asteroids. Bugged? Server going kawooosh? Bad day charma? User error?

[pearl juniper]

They seem to like dropping patches the last Friday off the month recently. They are into release candidates on the PTU, so this Friday seems likely

[rare cove]

What is every build for there mole ? want the best possible for hitting decent rocks but getting the most out of it, and 1 laser to hit atleast 60 mass

aka raw power, and have 2 great mining turretsa

[sharp swift]

Helix = large breaks
Hofs = mid to small
Impact = scoop
Use gadgets to go further. Active mods are your own call if you want to push for higher masses

[pearl juniper]

You won't hit 60k with one laser without three surge modules on it. And then good luck controlling that

[sharp swift]

Yeah, the aspirations aren't realistic, but that'll get them close at least

[rare cove]

so would focus 3, and 2 c3 be the best raw hitting ? for controlling ? and 2 hofs bc idk if i like the impact

[sharp swift]

Well, practically speaking, if you are going solo then only one laser need s to push power (Helix)

[rare cove]

i go with a friend

[sharp swift]

Hofstede with focus just creates a massive green bar so you rarely overshoot

[pearl juniper]

That's what I run. It's a decent balance

[sharp swift]

Impact is a personal choice as I want to reduce inert materials as much as possible

Impact had great range, 3 slots, and some inert reduction

[rare cove]

that what i would like, so i assume impact and 3 fltr

[sharp swift]

Since I am basically pure solo, it works out for me quite well

XL FLTR, yeah

you reduce inert by like...60% or so

[pearl juniper]

If you have at least one other person, two helix's is good. And one smaller laser for recracking

[sharp swift]

so instead of 1 scu of inert, you get .4

the savings add up quite quickly

That is the trade off, lacking a 2nd helix with maybe some active modules

[rare cove]

okay so 2 helix on the side, even though they arent the greatest with range ? and an impact, even tho hofs is really good

possible 2 helix and 1 hofs

[sharp swift]

Yeah I'd get rid of the Impact if I had a buddy

Generally you can get pretty lucky with breaks and not deal with inert

[rare cove]

so 2 helix foucs 3 2 c3
hofs 1 focus 1 fltr

[pearl juniper]

also all of the lasers have at least some inert reduction

[rare cove]

is there a way to increase the distance on the helix ?

so 2 helix and is there a way 2 tell how big of a rock i can hit ?

[pearl juniper]

#industrial-professions message

[sharp swift]

No, drive closer

[rare cove]

trying to understand that but i would like to know is 2 helix with 2 c3 would it be like 60k easy, or medium

[sharp swift]

The only thing that matters is possible or not. All other things can be handled with distance, power, and patience

60k for a single ship / 2 helixs is certainly in the upper limits of the Mole

[rare cove]

soo my question is what i sent would that be considered a good build or shit

[pearl juniper]

Two helix's with each having one focus III and two reiger C3s will just get you to 60k, at 0% resistance. As resistance goes up (columns to the right of the first one), your maximum mass goes down

to reliably crack most 60k rocks, you probably need at least one of the lasers to have a surge module on it instead of one of the C3s

[rare cove]

i have surges

i assume 60k rocks are the biggest

[pearl juniper]

nah, they go bigger. But they do get less common

one surge gets your 60k limit up to about 15% resistance, a surge on the second laser gets you up to about 30%. But arbitrarily building for 60k rocks isn't necessarily all that useful. Build for the rocks you find most often, and adjust as needed

[rare cove]

so at least 1 surge and i should be fine, also not sure how to update the spread sheet on my end but i switch mod and it doesnt update. and not sure where to find a gadget

[pearl juniper]

hmmm, you should be able to just use the drop downs to change things. And the gadgets should be in the gadget drop down.

open in excel? Or some other program?

[rare cove]

excel

and where would i buy so gadget as erkul doesnt say anything about gadgets

[pearl juniper]

ahh, check redmonster for that. At least for stanton locations. Regolith might have that as well

[tepid sonnet]

Where do I find Salvage in the fortune?

Probably RMC?

[plush needle]

Can someone tell me if the cargo bugs out of the taurus if i'm stacking it like this and not close the cargo ramp when flying?

[vivid river]

I dont know what your askin here but the boxes print to the outside

[inland spire]

I suspect off-grid stuff is going to fall out if you move around with the ramp open, even if it doesn't bug out

in my experience any movement makes off-grid boxes jiggly

[proud pumice]

@plush needle I can generally get one 32 crate dead center and it usually stays in place long enough to get to a station

Sorry, clicked the wrong person for the tag the first time

[plush needle]

Yep i've tried it out and it's even possible to add a second layer of 2 scu heigh containers just need to keep the missile tubes? at the top of the taurus cargo bay in mind

[craggy tapir]

elaborate?

like where to fly to get rmc or where to print it?

[vivid river]

You find the salvage on the outside of it, it's got 6scu of space on either side

[craggy tapir]

i know?

i asked him

[hollow sedge]

Anyone aware of a CMAT referece table that exists for all the ships in the game?

(or at least the ones worthy of fracturing)

[vivid river]

? Like what they are worth in cmat?

Anything size 4 and up, sometimes s3 if I cant find anything worth while imo

Tho with the contract I've seen recently on my end it'd be easier to just eat and reclaim my own ships

[hollow sedge]

Yeah just a reference of what SCU each ship generates. I might start that as a project

[vivid river]

Go for it but it's gonna be changing sometime soon

When base & ship building is implemented those cmats are gonna change into actual components as far as CIG has said

[vestal ravine]

The amount of CM per ship is limited by the actual salvaging ship. Like a Vulture tops out at the MSR size. Reclaimer is KING.

[weak tinsel]

Their cargo storage does top out yes
What they mean is, when I salvage XYZ ship how much CMAT is that ship going to Yield
And that does not change based on salvage ship type afaik

[vivid river]

Correct, Neither the cmat nor rmc changes based on salvo vehicle

Each vehicle is locked in on the rmc and cmat it gives

@vestal ravine

Heck if I remember right the reclaimer can fill itself twice over when salvo another reclaimer

Cmats, not rmc

[weak tinsel]

For sure there is some fluctuation on what will a wreck yield but yeah would be a nice tool to see what gives what for inexperienced ppl

[vivid river]

I agree even if it's only temp

[vestal ravine]

Ok, my dream ship to salvage for rmc is a closed up Hull C.

[vivid river]

C2 when it was in the contracts was amazing to salvage

Rmc and cmat

[rain tinsel]

what keybind opens the mining tool overlay that shows the power level etc for gem mining?

nm its broken, just wait out the time or escape

[astral pelican]

So I have the vulture should I stick to salvaging or should I do prospector mining

[flint forge]

most mining consoles are broken

so keep in mind that you can mine a lot but could need 2/3 days of shard hoping for a console that works

[astral pelican]

I will stick to salvage but change the salvage head

I still have stock

[vivid river]

I like the cinch on both heads for my vulture but abrade is truly the best of both cinch and trawler

[astral pelican]

Alright I will try that thanks

[vivid river]

Unless time is your biggest enemy, trawler shouldn't be on the table for a salvo op

[sullen sentinel]

2 abrade heads is nice.

[vestal ravine]

Watch out t h e tractor beam can avert the installation of the 2nd Abrade...

[molten falcon]

Hey guys, Erkul says we can buy the CSV SM in Lorville but it's not there, is it somewhere else ?

[vivid river]

?

Its probably not in for in-game buy yet

Yea as far as uex goes it ain't in the in-game store yet

[royal hamlet]

Is Copper still worth a good amount to sell? I’m missing corundum so I might as well sell copper before 4.1

[sullen sentinel]

Until the update when prices will presumably be readjusted to normal levels

[hollow sedge]

yep this based on a reclaimer munching anything else in the game

[royal hamlet]

Any sign of the outpost elevators in Stanton working before 4.1?

[tepid sonnet]

Where to find it.

[tepid sonnet]

Where to find it.

[inland spire]

@tepid sonnet what I typically do is unverified salvage contracts

the verified ones have a fee you have to pay that eats out of your earnings, the unverified ones have fee ones too but also have clean up contracts that pay you

you have a time limit with the unverified ones, as they're illegal and the cops show up after a time

but there is usually plenty of time to finish the job

[tepid sonnet]

I tried one of those… the salvage was guarded by a turret.

[sullen sentinel]

I just find panels in the yela asteroid belt when i do salvage

[mild pumice]

I've been doing my panel scraping in Pyro (terminus ring) for a while now, mostly for the change of scenery but it's been great for supply or die because I just dumped a load of CMs at Ruin Station and been doing panel runs

That said I'm glad it's over soon I'm a bit burned out lol

Be going back to working on my hauling rep I guess..

The new courier mission looks like it's just moving a box from one side of a Pyro Station to another which is disappointing, I was hoping to go back to being space amazon and dropping parcels in city rooftops

[vivid river]

As I said before 6scu grids (very noticeable) on both left and right of the ship little bit back middle

If your asking how to get RMC you press "m" on the keyboard to enable the scrapper, left click and munch on a ship, to eat the ship for cmats, it was either "L-Alt + s" or "L-Ctrl + s" to get back into munching mode replace "s" with "w"

[humble merlin]

Is it just me or is the Golem basically the same as the prospector but for much much cheaper

[dusky obsidian]

yeah it looked like a easier entry to mining

[sharp swift]

Less capacity and there was something about the laser causing higher instability to there would be more rock loss?

And no bed, if people cared about that

[humble merlin]

Weird, I'm looking at the specs and it has the same size mining laser, same storage

[sharp swift]

It's a good buy imo

It was in the 'behind the ship' video

one of the devs mentioned the laser being wonky cuz drake, not sure what that will exactly translate in game

[tepid sonnet]

But where do I find the things to scrap? Ships without shields and panels and what not?

[weak tinsel]

the golems lazer is quite bad

[candid bay]

Gadget use

Probably going to need a bunch of sabirs with you

[weak tinsel]

its not bad

like bad bad
but for a starter it makes sense

[narrow needle]

How is the new drake ship?

Or the atlas

[next temple]

Wait the Golem's laser isn't swappable?

[weak tinsel]

that is the whole point of the ship yes

[weak tinsel]

starter
its okey, needs mods and gadgets to do real work

[narrow needle]

Nice ig

I’ve liked drake ships so I’ll give it a try

[vestal ravine]

I helped a team of players unload 300 1 scu crates from a Polaris it was insane but the server held up so really cool to do.

[narrow needle]

Now that medical is back ima melt my ghost and get my terrapin back

[inland spire]

yay, just managed to turn in a last 3M SoD contract before the update 🎉

[weak tinsel]

i lost all my stuff

[inland spire]

I was fully prepared that it might just go poof 😬

[weak tinsel]

i expected like at least a 1h warning man
im so fucking mad

[unkempt cove]

Bro mining isnt working rn 💀

[weak tinsel]

the servers are dead
big lag stops you from mining

[sage scarab]

anyone know what do you put modules on golem? stampede and torpid?

[weak tinsel]

whatever counters the debuffs if you want to counter them

[woven crow]

I'm on the ptu but every rock i approach doesn't respond, is this related

[weak tinsel]

how are you on PTU if ptu serves are closed

[woven crow]

i do not know what to tell you man I just play the game

[weak tinsel]

well if its live then it might be just that

[woven crow]

In fact I barely play the game as there's not much playing to it

[crystal canyon]

what is the "optimal" range used for when fracturing a rock ?

i know for extracting it allows to go faster, but what changes when fracturing ?

[weak tinsel]

rocks do not like any lag and its usualy just a wait a bit maybe it will work

[next cloak]

where can i get those boxes that fit in the atls geo?

[weak tinsel]

less power gets transmitted within range
within "optimal" its like 90% past that it goes down fast

[weak tinsel]

its the 1/8 scu box
or 0.128 box
any cargo deck afaik

[crystal canyon]

but when i get closer the power also increase

[weak tinsel]

if a laser has for example 1000 power
within optimal range it will be 1000 power
past optimal range it will be within 0-999 power

[crystal canyon]

hmmm ok

currently running two Rieger C3 on the golem, should i have went with something else ?

i can finally use something else than the helix that still has some power

[woven crow]

Does your Golem work? Mine is... uh

[crystal canyon]

i'm doing asteroids

[woven crow]

Asteroids it is

[crystal canyon]

might be that

[weak tinsel]

thats a desynced rock
go find a new one

[edgy shadow]

Means the Rock isnt loaded, happens.

[woven crow]

Bro this is the 37th rock

[edgy shadow]

change server

[woven crow]

😭

[crystal canyon]

mining with working server is amazing

stuff scan so quickly

[woven crow]

Are you on LIVE or PTU?

[crystal canyon]

live

isn't ptu closed now ?

[woven crow]

heres a screenshot with the date 😭

[random stag]

yello anybody know a good mining spot for the atls geo?

[edgy shadow]

expect the ptu to be shutdown shortly

[crystal canyon]

the fact that the drakes ore pod have the exact same issue has the mole/prospector pod annoys me GREATLY

at least it goes up instead of down when you beam it

30 minutes ago

i filled my golem let see how bad it is

i bumped my golem's head
120k repair

somehow i feel like this isn't right

[vital trench]

Anyone know how to find the new roc/geo minerals

[crystal canyon]

it's gonna take a while for me to check the refinery's capacity

currently experiencing a cool 1 server crash per minutes

[weak tinsel]

new shiny ooo

[river sluice]

Did they charge how the refinery will take your ore, will they take it from storage or as cargo on other hsips or is it still directly from a mining ship?

[weak tinsel]

this has not changed

[river sluice]

So the dream of loading up my polaris with a ton of extra pods to swap with would just waste more time than it saves, got it, thank you~

[tall karma]

Did CIG remember to adjust the old priority mission commodity prices?

[weak tinsel]

didnt check

[south basin]

Is there a list of the new ROC mineables? Not sure what to scan for from my ship.

[quiet atlas]

are refinaries broken still from PTU

[weak tinsel]

regolith.rocks seems to have some data
i went to arial and found one of the new ones

[south basin]

Thanks. Found Beradom on MT. Not sure if it's for the ROC but it looks a little too big for a hand mining tool.

[weak tinsel]

if its a surfuce gem then yes it is a ROC and now also GEO minable

[south basin]

Server error with gems on the ground. I guess I'll find out if those are restored or if I just lost them all :/

[vivid river]

salvage missions, or go look for them, final option get a friend munch your own (or their) ships

[crystal canyon]

i found a huge rock with lot of quant that i can't mine alone, is there a way for me to put a "marker" so that i can go back to a station and buy some modules that boost laser power ?

i assume backspacing would work but i don't want to lose my ship or the rock

[coarse ember]

yeah beradon is meant for the roc/geo

came across some earlier but sadly no colission so it wasnt really there

[south basin]

Where do you sell it?

Shubin won't take it.

[south basin]

In fact, Shubin looks like they only deal in aluminum now? Doesn't seem right.

[coarse ember]

me and someone else thought maybe it was something you sell at admin/tdd

[south basin]

Imagine if this game had in-game info telling you where you could actually sell shit.

[weak tinsel]

Should be sealable at main planet ports admin and tdd

[south basin]

I'll check there next time I log in. Thanks.

[fathom ledge]

how are people feeling on golem vs prospector now?

[low cipher]

Can the golem mine quant or naw

[spare cloud]

The same way the Prospector can.
There's no power difference between the two ships

[raw shell]

you can't bed log in the golem can you?

[elfin hornet]

there's no bed

[rich root]

hey guys is that worth anything found these but they are new to me

[dusty oracle]

So from a laser mining head perspective is the golems bespoke head any less viable to the prospector debating if the 110 bucks extra for prospector and ability to switch mining head really cost advantageous

[wraith ice]

Any of yall try the hull c this patch?

[crystal canyon]

is it possible to place gadget on asteroids ?

[next cloak]

where can i find a list of the most valuble roc mineables?

[dense burrow]

all rocks are invisible/walk throuigh for me for roc/geo mining

WTAF

[simple cape]

Wow I completely missed the golem release.

Didn't even know something new was coming

[spare cloud]

It is. Can be tricky but it is.

I think it might be a placebo effect, but I hit the Attach button on the top right corner of the gadget's screen and it seems to work then

[fallen crater]

most rocks are like this for me and unable to be scanned anyone else running this?

atacamite deposit ^

[inland spire]

does anything happen if you fail unverified salvage contracts? there doesn't seem to be rep for tar pits?

[vivid river]

no

[sonic fiber]

Any idea what ships they added for creds?

[vivid river]

not as far as i observed

[sonic fiber]

Anyone goes by a shop see if they added Fortune in game and how much creds, pls

I tried to play but can't get to my hanger

Snafu

[vivid river]

i dont remember seeing anything about them adding it to in-game shops

[inland spire]

fun times, I'm scraping salvage in my vulture, and the depot isn't filling up 😔

[vivid river]

.> great so that bug is back then

[inland spire]

hull is getting stripped, but depot says 0.0/13.0, and the heads report 0.00 cSCU/s

[sonic fiber]

Notes says some ships added

[vivid river]

check your printing pannel rq

[vital juniper]

Did they change mining?

And where to get ore?

[inland spire]

looks like some parts of the hull don't give material, while others do?

[spare cloud]

Is the Golem that tiny or is this rock absolutely massive ?

[vital juniper]

Golem is tiny

They also seem to be clipped in a rock

[spare cloud]

I know it's so small it can practically fit in Carrack, and a bunch of em in Hercules, but that one rock still seems huge

[vital juniper]

It looks smaller because they are clipped into it

[spare cloud]

The clipping part doesn't fool me, I'm well aware of that

[vital juniper]

ah

[spare cloud]

Can see the full golem in transparency no issue

[vivid river]

so i checked https://discord.com/channels/82210263440306176/649390966259580929 i did see the fortune but i belive that was for the website pledge store

[vital juniper]

Here's me in front of mine

If the screenshot ever loads

[inland spire]

oh wait

my vulture reverted to stock components

[fallen crater]

its an alright size i left that rock already but ive seen it just over half the size of prospector

[inland spire]

is this a normal thing for a patch?

I'm back to cinch :\

(not that this explains why some parts don't give materials)

[vital juniper]

It's pretty tiny

[spare cloud]

Patches of that kind always revert ships back to default load out.
Customed comps should be safely stored in primary residence inventory, just need to reequip them

[inland spire]

well, it's not like the abrade heads are something all that special, I just didn't think to check

[crystal canyon]

yeah that worked

i dropped the gadget

[vital juniper]

Do the pinned mining sheets still work? Didn't they add new rocks are stuff?

[crystal canyon]

then pressed the "detach" button by mistake

then it asked me to place it

Although i couldn't find the gadget after the rock broke

is it single use ?

[spare cloud]

There's new stuff, but what's in here is still accurate.
Check regolith.rocks for more

Not up to date to new 4.1 minables

But good for everything else

[cedar marsh]

So out of curiosity, has anyone had the chance to test out different lasers on the ATLS Geo yet? Any recommendations on loadouts?

[vital juniper]

Ah thanks

[spare cloud]

It's not, if you don't blow the rock up in the red part.
But red or not, the gadget is often pushed far away when the rock cracks

[vital juniper]

So is it still worth going for the top tier (not quant) ores first?

Or to just pick up what I find

[spare cloud]

If Copper, Corundum, Tin and Ice are still priced like they were in 4.0.2, go for that

[crystal canyon]

ah so that's he little thing i saw fly away

oups

[vital juniper]

So gold isnt worth going for anymore?

[vital juniper]

Did you ever get it to work?

[vivid river]

ill check tommorow
this salvager is off to bed

your usin the new ship golem yea?

[vital juniper]

Trying to

[vivid river]

gotcha ill add that to the list of ships ill use

[sonic fiber]

Yeah no worries. I'll find out tommorow

[drowsy kettle]

just got the drake golem, what modules should i put on it?

[vital juniper]

I like the pasive modules when I mine

I'm too lazy to buy new ones all the time and I will forget

[vivid river]

Oh 'for i forget what planet you on, need to test that one specifically and others

[vital juniper]

Calliope

I'm flying to a lagrange point now to see if I cn mine there

Okay so Hur-L4 works

[coarse ember]

havent tried the diffrent lasers but stock from stuff you mine with a roc/hand 1 second will immediately send the gems into the overcharge state so you can only really shoot them once then wait until they drop out of overcharge and pray the green fills soon so you dont have ot shoot it again

[vivid river]

Soo might just be either planets or cali itself

[cedar marsh]

any tips on location>

[coarse ember]

also geo is both a blessing and a curse in the cave next to kudre, bunch of gems there but also some suprise pits

kudre is the only good one i know of from today trying out the geo, the cave is multi leveled and the entreance is a pit as big as kudre outpost itself

[cedar marsh]

Where can I find that? I'm new to cave mining

[coarse ember]

so theres 2 kudre's one will say kudre mine (closed) and the other will say the same minus the closed in bracket, you want the one without the closed part, once you're on top of the station look within roughly 200-300m from the landing pads

oh yeah it would help too, it's on daymar by crusader

[fallen crater]

just now lol on a gneiss rock i claimed my first golem and server hopped

not sure if its the rock or me

[vital juniper]

seems to be the rock

[cedar marsh]

Odd. The rocks I found are here, clearly scannable, but when I go to mine its like they don't exist.

Huh.

[fallen crater]

yeah now granite rocks on mic work when they were not on daymar

[coarse ember]

the cave mineables seem hit or miss with gems clipping into the ground ut they do work

shortly after this me and the other guy got stuck in a pit cause the ledge grabbing broke and we had to use oe of the 1/8th from the geo to use as a stepping stool to escape

[vital juniper]

Is it worth refining cheaper ores?

[velvet sparrow]

Rocks not scannable on my server. Checked multiple clusters on 2 diff moons. Anyone else getting this?

[velvet sparrow]

same

[drowsy kettle]

anyone else having issues mining rocks on planets and moons?

even server hopped and yela is still full of ghost rocks

[velvet sparrow]

Tons of ghost rocks for me.

They introduce new rocks/gems and it breaks everything. Go figure.

[vital juniper]

Yeah

Lagrange mining worked for me

[drowsy kettle]

new rocks?

[velvet sparrow]

No. Old ones.

[inland spire]

fun times, I managed to lose the tractor beam module on my vulture

took it off the vulture, then managed to blow up, and when I claimed it the module disappeared from inventory and did not appear on the ship either

[fallen crater]

so does the golem no show signatures?

[vital trench]

Anyone know where you sell feynmalyne

[lone tendon]

How best can I avoid getting fisted by the game when refining and claiming refined goods to my ships? First try got me the locked grid bug, Second try my ship disappeared and I had to claim it so lost the goods. Any tips on minimising the jank or should mining/refining be avoided?

[fallen crater]

maybe here

[vital trench]

wow I mispelled that

what is that price for, per unit?

[lament wigeon]

Any work around for the Geo storage being stuck at 100% after emptying?

[fallen crater]

think so

[fallen crater]

mine was only visual and fixed itself after sucking a gem in

[vital trench]

391k per scu it seems

is it 100 units per scu?

[fallen crater]

last i looked yes

[vital trench]

geez thats 10 boxes

Might go back to roc mining so i dont have to deal with it

is the roc's box still 100cscu?

Wait what it can only be sold in stanton!?

[fallen crater]

they are buying it for the lore

[vital trench]

I aint trying to jump everytime I need to sell 😭

[inland spire]

oh so readygrip modules are actually in shops now?

[drowsy kettle]

i also had problems with that

[fallen crater]

its not a bad starter ship but i feel like that should still be a thing no matter the price

[vivid obsidian]

What's the most lucrative ore with this patch? I'm assuming copper got shot back down

Or, update rather

[woven crow]

Anyone have a recommended set of mining modules and where to buy them?

[dense burrow]

SO I see the torch cutter attachment is STILL broken.... WTF

and hand salvage tools even tho the missions are back

[vestal ravine]

I dont see that Geo? on the pledge store? Where do we buy it?

[vestal ravine]

Some players grab a plain box delivery mission and use that box to mark spots.

[vestal ravine]

There is a website called cornerstone that lists all items in the game and where to buy them.

[gilded kindle]

anyone figure out ground mining workaround?

[velvet sparrow]

yea. don't try mining until they fix it, unfortunately.

[gilded kindle]

sad

[narrow needle]

How long is the drake golem staying on pledge store?

[velvet sparrow]

yea, I got all configured (45 minutes of flying around). Then went mining. Rocks were scanning but collision wasn't working so they couldn't be mined.

[hasty haven]

is the drake vulture worth saving for? (I'm new to the game) just wanna get into salvaging

[gilded kindle]

yes

[hasty haven]

any suggestions on how to get money for it lol?

[gilded kindle]

bunkers

[hasty haven]

bunkers?

[gilded kindle]

merc missions

[hasty haven]

alright then i have been doing some ongoing boarding stuff

but ill try that

[shut isle]

imma try focus IIIs and FLTR-XL mods and will let yall know how it goes

on the golem

[gilded kindle]

yea bounty hunting and merc missions will get you enough over time

[hasty haven]

should i rent a fighter then?

[gilded kindle]

if you want

[young basin]

For regular price should stay forever, wb with lti about a month give or take

[narrow needle]

hmm is it worth buying?

so far I enjoy it just needs a tank upgrade

plus i enjoy drake as a brand as well

[young basin]

Not sure haven't given it a try just yet

[solar estuary]

anyone able to change the mining head on the rOC? I still haven't been able to in the PTU or the LIVE build now, been trying the S0 Hofestede

[peak hornet]

is the rockfall paint only available with the starter pack for the golum?

[crude thunder]

anyone know off the top of your head the ore capacity differences between the Prospector and Golem? Golem says 32 but I'm not familiar with the Prospector's bags

[fallen crater]

anyone got a price and where to sell the new gems?

[last karma]

Prospector fits 32scu stock, but you can manually tractor Argo mole bags on for 48 scu (will not persist if you claim though) and as of last patch you could glitch even more on, but that may have been fixed

[solar estuary]

Prospector is default 32 but there is some tricks to increase it

but might of been fixed, no idea but I doubt it

I just been trying to figure out how to change the mining heads on the ROC. Doesn't seem to be able to for me at least

[crude thunder]

Thanks for the feedback, I know you can/could switch out the bags for Argo ones. But the default ore capacity for both being the same makes the golem seem like a better deal. Might be other limitations.

[solar estuary]

oh for sure. My big reason for the Golem is the small size so I can stick it in a mothership like a Carrack with mining pods on the cargo bay to change plus with a ROC/GEO for land vehicle mining too

[crude thunder]

Even more of a deal if the Golem containers don't fall through the floor and elevator like the bags

[solar estuary]

the golem containers were not total flesh on the grid when I tried, although that was when it was in the PTU so still early on, might of been fixed though not sure yet

just wish we could use bags from the refinery inventory instead of on the ship only, so have to go back and forth changing them

[junior nova]

Any idea how long Mining will be broke?

[regal tide]

Where do they sell the Geo boxes?

[sterile sparrow]

Normally at stations which buys the mineral

[candid bay]

That would be having a bed and switchable mining head/laser

[candid bay]

Check the refinery floor, if not there, maybe cargo.

[sterile sparrow]

I thought like the commodity terminal

Not 100% sure though

[hollow sedge]

Have we got working outpost elevators now?

[cosmic rose]

So the preference used to be Roc miner and the nomad. Is the new atls Geo going to be even better the roc? I'm thinking about paying the 40 bucks

[hollow sedge]

better in terms of general mobility and freedom of movement, but no shield?

debating this myself

[cosmic rose]

The roc has a shield? I didn't think it did.

Maybe the roc is faster or more inventory

[hollow sedge]

yep, you can put full power to it to mitigate the damage from overcharged rocks

[next cloak]

wheres the best place to find hadenite on aberdeen?

ive been scanning for an hour and havent found any

[hollow sedge]

I generally fly to OM-1 and head straight down

look around the rocky ridges

[next cloak]

thats what i did too

oooh ok

[hollow sedge]

tbh i don't think there's a winning formula, i get mixed results anywhere

[cosmic rose]

Well I guess if I don't like it it's a cheap LTI token

Does the atlas fit on a titan?

If it does I could see it appealing to a lot of people that can't fit an Roc and and Roc in their starter ship

[next cloak]

is glacosite any good?

[proud pumice]

ok, two questions because maybe im just not smart enough to figure them out

first, how do you change between fps and vehichle mining in the geo?

second, are the size zero mining lasers available? i dont see anything on erkul

[cosmic rose]

It sounds like you have to swap out the lasers, or swap out some kind of power pack to reduce the power

[proud pumice]

ok, thats what i was wondering, because i havent seen anything in the keybindings or in the hud to "change modes" or anything like that, and i havent seen anything about being able to buy the different lasers yet

[next cloak]

hm i been flying around the ridges here and i see other minerals just not hadenite

[gloomy scarab]

Can you not see RS value when scanning with the Drake Golem? Tried last night and it wasn't showing, also couldn't change scan angle

[vast flint]

Hello, is mining fixed? I played an hour after update launch yesterday and rocks weren't minable. So just wondering if that's solved now

[weak tinsel]

it is not mining that is broken
it is the servers not able to handle a sudden influx of players
when the server is laggy you end up with a lot of waiting time on interactions
so unscannable rocks, rocks that take several minutes to crack and other weird issues
i would not recommend mining early after a update since that often takes a very long time and requires a lot of patience

[raven glacier]

shame mining is the only thing i enjoy in the game

[weak tinsel]

mining should work in non populated zones
so just try a different planet

[inland spire]

halo perhaps?

[raven glacier]

oh yea i tried on Wala yesterday no joy i wonder if its worth going to pyro trying there

i dont really like doing the halo in the mole but i might try

[weak tinsel]

im doing pve bounties fine rn so the server must be a one that works ok otherwise the enemies would teleport a lot

and that means mining could work well

[raven glacier]

ok im logging in now 🙂

[vast flint]

probably should've avoided daymar then haha

i'll do some asteroid mining in the middle of nowhere

[rich root]

Nah

Price per scu sp i would stay witz hadanite

• Hadanite from 334.900 to 442.000
• Glacosite 85.000

[coral flume]

What's the best Ground mining Ore now? Can you sell in Pyro or just Stanton?

[next cloak]

any tips on how to find it? cuz i was looking for hours and didnt rlly find any

[rich root]

Hadanite is very easy to find on aberdeen

[weak tinsel]

hadanite and other old gems are now only a hand mining activity so very little gems per deposit
the new gems are COR and GEO minable and they yield a lot more per deposit so they are fairly equal in how much money for work done your get

[rich root]

But you should wear a pemboke becourse its hot af there

[weak tinsel]

the gems can be sold at any TDD som main city or Admin on main city starports

[next cloak]

when im flying around scanning I cant find any clusters

[next cloak]

ooooh

what are the new gems?

[weak tinsel]

hadanite is a Cave only hand held miner exclusive

[rich root]

How i remember the gem Depots Show up very close not more then 3mkm away

[weak tinsel]

at the bottom

[rich root]

Damn that sucks...

[next cloak]

bro thank you so much

[weak tinsel]

at the bottom of this post there i a list of the gem distribution

[coral flume]

Thank you.

Where have people had luck with Feynmaline? I haven't seen any.
I assume the redacted one is for the Valaakar caves?

[weak tinsel]

just like ore the refinery stations or L points will not buy gems

[weak tinsel]

as per redacted yeah i guess so too
but i only found glacosite on abredeen

didnt look around much since the patch hit at midnight for me

and rn im getting some easy bounty money to get a roc

[crystal canyon]

well that would be an option, sadly the golem have 0 space for anything

[vestal ravine]

Indeed, yes that is true. Wish they left standup space behind the seat like on the Prospector. Would only add 2 feet to the length.

[lament wigeon]

Feyn is definately on Aberdeen. When the patch first hit, I couldnt find any, but it seems to be spawning now. During PTU, the best place I found was Terminus but there was no place to sell it in Pyro.

[candid bay]

Didn't they say the golem got an external storage access?

Kinda like many fighters have

[dense burrow]

I've been having an issue last night all the rocks have no collisions/unmineable (ROC/GEO rocks gthat is).

I need to do some cave mining too and see how that goes.

[weak tinsel]

This is due to server lag
It can take quite some time before the rock gets physicalised and is scanable

I tried a while ago and it worked for me
Took like 30s to scan the rock but was all good after that

[dense burrow]

I was walking around for like 5 mins around the rock and through it lol

it was viewable from my ship, but on foot it was passthrough

[lament wigeon]

This morning I did not have any intangible gem deposits, but all bets are off with the servers on fire atm

[weak tinsel]

In one of the #sc-news or other chanell there is a bunch big Golem Q&A posts check them might have the answer

[weak tinsel]

Yeah usuall server lag
If it stays like that for a minute or two if you are that patient just go look for another outcrop of rocks since this one prolly wont work any time soon

Maybe a quick relog while near it might work I have not tried

[dense burrow]

did that for 3 grouups before having to find hydration lol (and oddly enough ZEERO loot boxes now at mining outposts

pisses me off when I get a LTI geo and wanna use it lol

[glass kernel]

how to switch the atls geo between FPS and ground vehicle mining laser power?

[weak tinsel]

I think it needs you to manually swap the mining bit for the hand held multitool one

[glass kernel]

oh the Q&A suggests that there's a toggle

and the HUD says "low power"

[weak tinsel]

Hmm

[glass kernel]

ahh it's the "activate mining module (slot 1)" bind

[weak tinsel]

I didnt try it yet so I'm uncertain

Is it just a unbound action ?

[glass kernel]

my geo isn't scanning what i thought should be geo-minable rocks

it was bound for me but i am using HOSAS with buzzkill's bindings so not sure what's default

[weak tinsel]

My msg a bit up explains

[weak tinsel]

Using personal binds and yeah I get it

[glass kernel]

ah i see. ive been on the site for like 10 minutes and they still haven't physicalized

[dense burrow]

same issue I had last night

[glass kernel]

wasn't sure if i was doing something wrong. i was in mining mode with fracture mode on so i guess it should have been scanning

[dense burrow]

kinda annoying tbh

[glass kernel]

oh wait do i need some kind of special helmet now? they haven't gotten that far with armor yet right

[weak tinsel]

Nah basic helmet or anything to display HUD is enough

[glass kernel]

It's weird because they're physicalizing in the cockpit of my c1 but then nothing in the roc

err atls

likek they get that little tag that roc mineables get, which is normally when you'd know they streamed in

[pale finch]

Is there still no sure fire way to store mole bags on prospector? I've tried storing ship and changing components but never seems to stick

[weak tinsel]

Iirc they fixed the ability to add the mole bags to the prospector
It was not intended

[pale finch]

Oh 🙁

[craggy tapir]

where me buy Geo pod

[glass kernel]

i got them at cousin crow's. the covalex, or whoever they are, store on the same platform also sells them

[weak tinsel]

Cargo centre or refinery

[craggy tapir]

looked cargo centre on tressler but nope

okay

[candid bay]

almost 1 SCU of storage

any thoughts about gadgets for the golem laser btw? Surge + stamp?

[wintry mango]

Is it worth mining copper/coro now, or is it to late to refine?

[pearl juniper]

prices are back to what they were before supply or die (ie, it's basically worthless). Back to the traditional good ores

[wintry mango]

Lets see what i can find and mine with the Golem then 🙂

[red sierra]

any work around for if your cargo isn't showing up on your ship on the admin kiosk where you are trying to sell or do I just have to unload manually

[shut isle]

I'm trying focus 3 and FLTR-XL and I'll let you know how it goes

[mild pumice]

any idea how to put the Geo in low power mode? can't find anything in the key bindings, Q&A or anywhere lol

[floral glen]

hi where or how do i sell the golem cargo? ive got them full theres just no information anywhere on what to do with it now

[mild pumice]

found it - alt + 4 (tool tip says module slot 1) but this sets low power mode, although I'm not sure it's working

[spare cloud]

We're not going to do this. If you want to provide help on the server, use the dedicated help channels

[mild pumice]

I think the mining nodes are just broken

[candid bay]

too bad I didn't bring a hand miner

unless it's roc

[sonic fiber]

Do you mean the ore?

[floral glen]

yeah

[mild pumice]

I found these but I can't mine them with a hand tool or the geo (tried both low and high modes) laser just fires thru them

did they make roc mineables super rare?

[regal tide]

Can we store the batteries from the Hawthorne locations?

[regal tide]

It's typical for cig to release something like a new mining vehicle but you can't use it because mining is broken but they continue to create missions around it

[mild pumice]

I've been flying around for about 40mins to an hour and I can't find anything on Daymar or Cerllin to mine with it

[inland spire]

it's not like an actual person sits there creating missions, it's code that just churns them out on a schedule and won't stop just because something else turns out to be broken

[mild pumice]

I can only find ship mineables

well I found some more of Beradom but I still haven't seen any Hadanite/Aphorite/etc, they no longer spawn?

OK top tip - tractor the ATLS out of your ship before you get in it, I just yeeted my ship into space lol

just fires through it like it's not there

check out the damage to my ship caused by just getting in the geo lol

so yeah I just found the ICs for it the mineables can be broken and lack collision/do not scan

Guess we await a hotfix

[sonic fiber]

Dock at a station with a refinery and sell it or refine it

Best look up a guide online

[floral glen]

Ok thanks. I also stored the ship with full pods and then they were empty when coming back up. So I guess lost?

[sonic fiber]

Probably but go to refinery and see if you can select it

[static vale]

Just got a Golem, and some shale on Magda says its impossible to mine? How do i make it mineable?

[red sierra]

any idea why this wont detach?

[pale agate]

How’s the mining this patch?

[near swallow]

Impossible means that the game thinks it's too much for that mining laser as configured. There are modules that can boost laser power, but there are also rocks that would be Impossible to mine even with a solo Mole. Usually a rock is Impossible because it's mass is too much for the laser, though other stats can affect things too. Also, for the Golem, what matters is what it says when you are within the laser's range. (One rock I saw read Challenging until I got in range, then it was Impossible. And for a stock Golem, it was impossible.)

From what little I've tried of mining, it seems alright. However, the Golem doesn't have a fully working Scan mode. Mining Mode works though.

[static vale]

So i need to boost laser power?

Thanks!

[near swallow]

Boosting can help mine some rocks, but it won't always help as some will just be too big for the Golem. The modules that increase laser power may also make the green area smaller, and thus make it harder to mine.

[mild pumice]

was your ship automatically stored when you left a hangar or by 30k recovery?

[red sierra]

i have pulled it out and stored it every way possible trying to get the cargo to show up in admin to auto unload

[mild pumice]

during the supply or die I had a server crash and when my ship was stored automatically the cargo became locked to the grid and nothing I could do would get it off and I could not sell, only thing was to claim the ship to use it again

[near swallow]

You could try lifting it straight up when you first turn on the tractor beam. If that doesn't work, you could try pulling out the box underneath it. Can't say I've tried the latter with a 32 SCU on top, but I've pulled out boxes with smaller boxes on top before.

Worst case scenario, you could remove everything you can remove, and then self destruct the ship in the hangar and try to take the boxes out of the wreck.

Never tried the latter

[inland spire]

one side of one caterpillar segment = 0 SCU of salvage 😔

[static vale]

Do i need to pull the storage bags off to be able to order a refinery job, or can they take the ore off the ship directly?

[near swallow]

Don't take the bags off, just store the ship. The bags have to be on the ship for the refinery to see them.

You'll also need a cargo ship to put the refined ores in afterwards.

The other option is to sell the unrefined ore directly to the refinery for less money.

[static vale]

Got it

Ive got a cutlass

also holy cow the bags fill faaaast

[near swallow]

Cutlass Black should be fine for a Golem/Prospector. If you get a Mole, you'll want a Freelancer MAX or larger.

[static vale]

ive got buddies that have that new MISC ship that has like 200 cargo or whatever

[near swallow]

Starlancer MAX, the Freelancer's big brother. Nice ship.

[static vale]

Any tips for finding good value rocks?

[near swallow]

It's mostly down to luck. There are old mining charts for Stanton, but some of that info may be out of date now, and all the data is server side now so it can't be datamined. The charts are pinned here.

[static vale]

ah so its more of a "test it urself" type deal now

[near swallow]

In ships other then Golem, you could try and use radar signature to identify what types of rocks you are seeing, but Golem can't see that right now, it's scan mode is kinda broke.

I never bothered with scan mode for mining, except when I needed something very specific. (Ice)

[static vale]

Do you recommend any specific processing methods?

im at the terminals right now and im seeing what they are

[near swallow]

Most people use the divinyx solution or something like that, which is the cheapest high yield one, but it also takes the longest.

[static vale]

ok cool

also im looking at this station's capacity, and apparently we're 8000% over capacity for it\

is it worth moving elsewhere, or is the surcharge neglible?

[near swallow]

All the refineries will be over capacity

There just aren't enough for the playerbase

And that was true even before server meshing

[static vale]

ok so shit doesnt matter

nice

[near swallow]

That's why people want the Expanse, Arrastra, and Orion.

[static vale]

I can see that

might be worth picking up then

thanks for the advice

[near swallow]

They're all in concept with no clue when they'll be out

Expanse hardly gets any mention

[static vale]

also idk how they would implement it

would the orders be processing while ship is in storage

also would u need to hire AI workers to run the refinery

like this could get complex and expensive very fast

[near swallow]

I think, at least in Arrastra's case, it's meant to be a more manual refining process, so people would need to do stuff to refine it

[static vale]

That would be cool

another gameplay loop tied to economy

[near swallow]

A refining minigame basically

[static vale]

also how much of a material is an SCY

scu

[near swallow]

The smallest box a refinery will make is a 1 SCU box, all the way up to 32 SCU.

[untold rapids]

They mentioned a mini game for the expanse too

[near swallow]

Cutlass doesn't have a cargo grid for 32 SCU, so the refinery won't make 32 SCU boxes for it.

[static vale]

Oh u need to put it directly into a ship?

u cant load it into storage?

[near swallow]

The refinery will auto-load it. They haven't been updated for freight elevators yet.

[static vale]

Okok

thats actually cool

[near swallow]

Make sure to retrieve and store the cargo ship before loading.

That avoids a bug.

Stay until the ship is stored, don't let the game auto-store it.

And if you pull up a ship and it's cargo is missing, store and retrieve it again. (Another bug.)

[static vale]

are there any specific materials i should be looking out for?

[pearl juniper]

I always assumed that was just a thing they added there for immersion / realism and had nothing to do with the number of players actually refining at that location.

just part of the background graphics and not a real message

[near swallow]

The numbers differ though

I think it actually means something and affects refining cost, but I've never seen a refinery at or below capacity to know what that cost is

[pearl juniper]

yeah I never took the time to compare them day to day. Are you seeing differences on a given refinery day by day, or just a difference from refinery to refinery?

[near swallow]

Haven't monitored it that closely, but I do recall seeing crazy numbers during SoD

[pearl juniper]

I guess the real test might be to check the refineries that are way out in the middle of nowhere (some of them aren't even near any mineables). I wouldn't think people would be actually using those

[near swallow]

And early on when I first got into ship mining, I actually tried going to a different place to refine and saw that it was also overloaded.

The way to test the fine I guess would be to take the same load to multiple refineries and get quotes for the same method with the same load.

[static vale]

Is there a way to eject unwanted material from the ship?

[near swallow]

No

That can encourage you to be picky about what rock bits you grab

[ashen fractal]

I got the new starter mining ship and I am trying to learn how to mine but I spend more time looking for rocks than actually mining. Everytime I see unknown on my ping, I go and either there are no minerals or the rocks are too big for me to break, what am I doing wrong?

[mild pumice]

has anyone found any roc mineables in 4.1? All I can find in the 'verse is Beradom and it can't be mined my anything :/

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[mild pumice]

thanks I'm aware of that IC but do other mineables (other than the hathor ones) even exist in 4.1?