industrial-professions

[naive vine]

do the tractor beams actually help with loading?

[weak tinsel]

better question
do they work?
if so yes they are a massive help
much more power but the atls is still a nice utility

[naive vine]

they work but the angle on them means u cant really see inside the comparments

[weak tinsel]

didnt really use them myself since the last time i had a Caterpillar was like 3.18

[sullen sentinel]

Yeah they're not super useful. I don't use them, i load with a max lift from inside

[near swallow]

In my experience, you can get stuff into some of the cargo bays with the tractor beams, but you wouldn't be able to place things with precision.

I would more likely load a Cat via Maxlift. The real trick is getting a good angle, since you want to load from the right but the freight elevator positioning is setup more for left side loading.

[cloud condor]

where can i buy the abrade salvage head for the reclaimer?

[limpid sluice]

Most ship part stores under Stanton jurisdiction seem to carry them

[glad ivy]

Yes and yes, but ideally with another pair of hands. As others have said you can load with Maxlift, I like to use ship tractor to get the cargo to the doors and then I'll get them into the bags from there

[quiet atlas]

anyone having issues selling tin and ice at cherckmate

[brisk compass]

@glad ivy thank you mate, appreciate your feedback!

[inland spire]

I really wish accidentally clicking on a lower row box wouldn't automatically dislodge the entire stack off the grid, making all adjacent grid positions also unattachable 😔

especially with something like the Taurus' tractor beam, which fires bit off-centre and not at its reticle 😒

[upper gulch]

hey friends, whats the ping number to look out for when trying to find a rock with Tin?

[quiet atlas]

Resupply missions are broken sending ice and tin down the freight elevator does nothing

[raw shell]

any tips on where to find tin?

[hoary hinge]

Adir, Bloom

[raw shell]

thank you!

[silk escarp]

any tips on how to not get blown up while going to Bueno on Bloom?

[inland spire]

funny how freelancer max is listed as "heavy freighter" but taurus is "medium"

[mild lantern]

Hey guys

[raw shell]

why won't this refinery let me refine my load?

[hoary hinge]

you haven't selected which ores are to be processed.

[raw shell]

yeah Hep is the only one that's selectable, at the bottom

I have 7 completed orders. Do you have a limit you can hold in the refinery? Trying to do this blasted supply or die mission

[hoary hinge]

I don't think there's a limit, no.

[raw shell]

oh it might be bugged, there's a "processing your request" popup over the select buttons

[tulip hornet]

What's a good location to seek compressed ice?

In Pyro?

[raw shell]

yeah that was it 😄

any of the rab clusters work

[tulip hornet]

Thank you!

[raw shell]

happy mining! I've had good luck at tung and alpha, near checkmate too

[mild lantern]

Hey guys

[raw shell]

the mole bag expansion is the bomb

[tulip hornet]

What kind of rock is it?

[raw shell]

look for signature 1660, or a multiple of it

type I

[tulip hornet]

Thank you once again! :D

[raw shell]

np

stay away from the blinky lights near the nebula.. bad npcs will spawn

[pearl juniper]

I have always been able to click through that popup

[mild lantern]

Hey guys

Not many people online at the moment it seems

[inland spire]

if I deliver more than half cargo but not all, does the rep also get prorated like the money?

[mild lantern]

I was going to ask a question, but it seems not people are online

[mild lantern]

OK never mind

[sinful parcel]

I remember seeing it a while ago but are you able to combine single SCU cargo into multiple empty SCU containers

[hoary hinge]

Not sure if that's still a thing, but you can just buy stor*all boxes from any station with a cargo shop

they're cheap

[sinful parcel]

yeah I had bought multiple empty containers to move a haul of salvage but no luck in combining the single scu Containers. didnt know if someone had any insight or such or if they killed that very useful feature

[hoary hinge]

you cannot combine boxes currently, there's no mechanic to do it

Devs have said there will be a way in the future, we don't know what that will look like

The fact that the SoD missions return leftover (smaller) boxes of resources to you is a new thing, it used to be that if you submitted 12SCU for a 10SCU contract that you lost the spare 2SCU

[sinful parcel]

I remember seeing it when cargo was released I guess it was too buggy

[vestal ravine]

What the deal with the small salvage contracts not completing? I've had a couple now and since the event started I've only completed 4 small quests. What with fighting all the game's glitches I feel totally defeated. Going back to play for fun. Over and out.

[ripe grail]

has anyone gotten the new pyro high selling ores, the r and s one, are they any good to grab?

[hoary hinge]

if you get the screen for the mission commodity submissions, the counters of all commodities go from 0/XX to XX/XX, and the mission doesn't complete
Don't try again, you will lose it again
Server hop.

[vivid river]

Buy a large stor all box (my pref is the 8scu)

Put your commodities in the cargo elevator,
send down said elevator,
drag your choosen store all box to the left side of the warehouse,
open the store all box while still in the warehouse menu,
now drag wanted commodities into the now opened store all,
close store all,
move store all to opposite side of warehouse.

Your wanted commodities should now be in the store all

Rinse and repeat for all desired store all & commodities

Hope this helped

All of this can only be done whilst at the cargo elevator warehouse terminal

[sinful parcel]

Thank you was not trying to move over 100 1scu boxes

[vivid river]

.> crap almost forgot @sinful parcel
To turn in contract items do the opposite

You can not turn in contract commodities in store all boxes, the game will not recognize the commodities

I already tested that part

[sinful parcel]

Good to know

[vivid river]

Good luck and happy hauling

[mild lantern]

Be careful with those boxes

They expensive and can add up to quite a bit if you lose them

[reef smelt]

I’m trying to buy tin and the place I am buying from has 10 scu and the smallest box is 8 scu meaning I should be able to buy but I’m still not able to. Anyone know why?

[hoary hinge]

maybe someone else bought it first?

[reef smelt]

I keep reloading and still says it has ten scu. How long does it take to refresh?

[silver creek]

What other gadgets besides the boremax are good for a prospector

[drowsy phoenix]

what happens if you go over the 1000 scu limit at a station?

[teal otter]

What mining laser should i put on a mole if i mine by myself most of the time

[runic cedar]

This is what I run. Then as a secondary for tough rocks I've got a Helix II with a Rieger-C3 FocusIII and Stampede/Surge

For the 3rd, i've got another setup identical to my first. Hofstede-S2 and 2 FocusIIIs for when someone joins me.

If I've got 2 other people running with me I either swap the Helix II to my #1 slot so I can assist with breaking big stuff, or run a 3rd hofstede setup. The green sections get hilariously large lol

[naive vine]

Anyone know why the cargo grid locks to the ATLS once cargo snaps to the grid?

i can move with my max lift but not atls

[rare garnet]

I might have a slight lil issue... have anyone else had difficulties retrieving their refined stuff?
I couldn't get it out no matter the ship I selected?

[quick narwhal]

Yes. Join a new session in a new location.

Like if you're in na servers join EU

[rare garnet]

yeah, I figured that was an option, so I am doing that as we write
noticed as well that cargo wouldn't snap to the grid either

[mild lantern]

The shittyness about this event for me, is that I have passed up COPIOUS amounts of REALLY good ore... in favour of Copper...

Quantanium in super high quantities, taranite, bexalite and gold...

I've actually followed another Prospector once... who scanned a bunch of rocks with really good ore - that had no copper in it

[ornate halo]

At 10.5k per scu for just a TDD sell, I think Coppers holding its own- considering Taranite is "only" at 9.5k

Corundum is lighter and easier to mine tho- shoot for that

[dark stone]

which turret is which on the MOLE? i put my helix (which I want on the nose) in slot 2, is that correct?

[spare cloud]

Nose is 1.

[near swallow]

One is front, Two is left side, Three is right side.

[dark stone]

thx

[sullen rain]

Anyone else make the mistake of buying something at an outpost just to find out outpost elevators are shit?

I know I just did

[royal hamlet]

Sorry if you already have a solution for this, but for me I just exit the kiosk and load it again then it works.

[rare garnet]

Yeah for me I just ended up shard hopin.
I tried the two different kiosks that where present at the location

[royal hamlet]

Ah ok. Too bad, it's worked for me (so far).

[dark stone]

where are some good roc mining spots near MT?

[weak tinsel]

iirc MT itself was nice

[dark stone]

like in caves or just in general?

been a few years since Ive been roc mining so idk anything anymore lol

[dim tinsel]

hey i want to mine corundum and copper for the event where should i do it and what do i need to do it?

i tried to do it at arc L2 with a rented prospector but all the asteroids were too big to fracture

[dark stone]

mic L4 for copper and Clio for corundum has been good for me so far

[dim tinsel]

are the rocks there small enough for a rental prospector to break?

[dark stone]

you can certainly try, but it took me in my mole for a few of the rocks there

[dim tinsel]

how abt if i buy a prospector and someone told me to put a helix, surge and stampede on it

im quite close to having enough money for it

[dark stone]

my buddy was able to do it in a prospector ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dim tinsel]

yeah but with mining mods and not the stock mining laser probably right

[dark stone]

no it was a rental

[dim tinsel]

ohh aight

ty

[dark stone]

np

[weak tinsel]

mining on planets is much easier done for a prospector since rocks spawn in clusters so usually there is at least one minable for you
rental and non rental dont have THAT big of a difference in mining size
mining in L points or the belt is not recommended for prospector since its usually big rocks or really small ones

and on a other note mining on MT moon Eutrepe has a really nice distribution of both copper and corundum, i have been mining there for most of the event and its been the best imo

and a tip when mining on plants
if you put max ping focus in scan mode and point it at a marker and it suddenly looks blurry or bright is a lot of markers in one spot and thats is how you know there are ROC minable gems and not bigger rocks for the prospector
90% of minable rocks are clusters that are a bit spread out so they should be clearly a bunch of markers

[dark stone]

i didnt know that euterpe was better imma have to head there tonight

[dim tinsel]

am i not supposed to just get like the signature and go off that or is it different with planetside rocks?

[weak tinsel]

huh

[dim tinsel]

like

when scanning and i point at a cluster thing i just get that number and then i know what kinda rock it is

[weak tinsel]

if there is a pattern to it yeah

but what i mean is that you point at it and when in Scan mode V by default you can scroll to focus the scan
on max focus ping with tab while pointing at a marker and it will show more markers for more objects if you are close enough so like 8km ish

[inland spire]

do partially completed contracts give partial rep or full rep?

[weak tinsel]

they dont give anything afaik? how do you even partially complete a contract?

[mild pumice]

You can submit if you've delivered part but the rep I'm not totally sure, I expect it's partial as the credit reward is also partial. You'd have to measure the increment with a ruler tbh

One more thing to mention, if you submit a contract that shows 0 delivered it counts as a fail and can reset you all the way back to the start. (Rep loss is 10x or something) so I'd avoid submitting tbh unless you've delivered a decent percentage and the contract shows that they have been delivered

[dim tinsel]

isnt the game supposed to scan the rock im pointing at in mining mode

[wintry mango]

What MT moon can you solo mine on with the MOLE?
(No wind moving your ship)

[dim tinsel]

it doesnt even give me a range indicator to the rock im looking at

also nothing happens if i go in scanning mode and lmb

no outline on the rocks either

the rock been stuck like this for a while what do i do

[knotty mulch]

has anyone had anyluck finding ice??

[dim tinsel]

why is every rock not interactable and i can shoot through them as if they arent even there

like legit every single one except the rock in the picture above that just got bugged

gone past like 20 clusters and all of them were unscannable

what do i even do at this point is there a fix or is the game just so ass it cant spawn in a single rock like what even???

[quiet atlas]

FOr ice accept a small salvage mission go there Tons of ice appears lol

[faint pawn]

Question folks how do you move mineable bags off a elevator?

[vestal ravine]

Bring up the bags along with a 2 scu crate. Reposition the crate to the center of elevator. Drag a bag to the crate as it jumps it on top keep it elevated till out on the pad area.

[faint pawn]

thanks every time I touch a bag it goes down under the elevator

ugh lost 4 more bags, yeah had the 2scu container in the middle, soon as I tractor the bag it drops under

[quiet atlas]

fill floor of elevator with waste then add ur bags will not sink, youtube it theres a LOAD of tutorials

using waste as it cheap

[faint pawn]

I watched it all tried it all

broke af now

[naive vine]

are you using the ATLS?

[faint pawn]

nope was using 2h

[naive vine]

think u need the ATLS

[faint pawn]

just think I pissed off the CIG gods today... all my tin spots are now cow spots

or ROC mining spots now

[wheat remnant]

will autoloading cargo work in 4.1 again?

commodities

[vivid river]

no clue when they will give it back to us
definitely after ai is near full implementation tho

[wheat remnant]

hmm okay, shame, but it is what it is

[languid tendon]

can i stack rieger mods on the same mining head?

[pearl juniper]

might be time to switch servers. I see these unscannables every once in a while, and sometimes it just takes a minute for them to become scannable. But if multiples in a row are not, I would try switching regions.

[faint pawn]

Anyone with a mole want a buttload of tin? found a ton can't break it but need someone who can. We can both fill up

[jagged veldt]

Crazy cluster

328scu of tin, excluding those 192 I already mined

[jagged veldt]

Where?

[jagged veldt]

It's a bug, ALWAYS go near rocks in scan mode. Switch to mining mode ONLY WHEN they become blue

[faint pawn]

Ok any suggest a good prospector loadout for breaking rocks?

[random stag]

hey anybody want this rock?

[faint pawn]

how do you get that nifty little thing what hows the rock?

shows the rock

[random stag]

https://regolith.rocks/cluster

[faint pawn]

Bless you!

[faint pawn]

Now would you come break all my tin for me? 😛

you can take what ya want

[random stag]

nah sorry I'm logging off

[faint pawn]

LOL all good, could I steal your mole bags? 🙂

[random stag]

nah sorry bro

I'm logging off

anyways

RSI Arrastra when?

[languid tendon]

beautiful

[jagged veldt]

Nice

I also got lucky tonight

I'm happy cuz I didn't have much time to play

But managed to drop 2 big tin orders

[wintry mango]

Is Tin worth more than copper / coru?

[ruby dune]

Please how?

[ruby dune]

Is that with the mole?

[languid tendon]

yeh

[languid tendon]

theres yt videos about how to increase mole capacity

[ruby dune]

BRB must go download to brain all youtube videos!

[ruby dune]

Thank you.

[drowsy phoenix]

WTT Corundum for copper 1:1

[quiet atlas]

hmm any new update on how many bags we can get on a Mole today record was 240 yesterday lol

[hoary hinge]

#looking-for-session
#1019852856460853258
#market-street

[royal hamlet]

Where did you see this?

[grim rain]

are you unable to fracture or disinagrate panels? im in the vulture and i can scrape, but it will not show up as an interactable for fra or dis?

[quiet atlas]

youtube, 240 mole needs 2 ppl

[inland spire]

TIL that the catwalks on the Taurus fit 1 SCU boxes

I'm sure that violates all kinds of workplace safety codes

[dusky obsidian]

yo thanks people that posted the screenshots of big storage i had no idea

[latent drift]

any hint on how to scan? still can't get it to work

[quiet atlas]

v n hold LMB, for me anyway

[latent drift]

no matter what I do, it won't work... I don't understand why

like... what am I even doing wrong... I even tried changing that bar on the right

[torpid bloom]

Mind elaborating on what you mean here?

How far away is it? Or do you mean it just takes you to a rab or cluster

[hoary hinge]

get closer

[quiet atlas]

Just a few mins ago elguapoe on youtube posted how its done

just go for a small salvage mission costing 1000

[latent drift]

most of the time I was basically touching them... idk, it feels bugged or something

[quiet atlas]

sorry @latent drift that post was for @torpid bloom

[latent drift]

oh sorry that answer was for @hoary hinge xd

I missclicked on you

[hoary hinge]

Hold the LMB, you will hear a "scanning" sfx

[latent drift]

yeah, but most of the time it doesn't happen, and when it does, nothing happens anyway. It's so random

[inland spire]

do you even need to scan asteroids? I know you don't need to scan surface deposits on planets, just pointing the ship at them in mining mode is enough to analyse the contents

[hoary hinge]

Check the screenshot above, they're trying to scan a ship

[inland spire]

oh sorry, didn't expand and it looked bit like an asteroid 😅

could it be you need to hold scan longer? I think it needs almost unreasonably long

[reef smelt]

When buying cargo from an admin console which inventory do I send the cargo to?

[vivid river]

Either the station your at (i.e. lorville admin > lorville invo) or directly to what ever ship you have docked and safely stowed (rule of thumb this patch is to manually store the ship watching and waiting till the ground doors fully close and all light go back to normal operation before leaving the hanger)

Hope this helps

[reef smelt]

That helps a lot, thank you!

[unique crown]

While salvaging - once you "melted" the ships surface do you break the hull or disintegrate?

[hoary hinge]

Scrape
Fracture
Disintegrate
(assuming you want RMC and CM for SoD)

[naive vine]

Why arnt my C3's appling any power, still says i have 100 mining power?

[vestal ravine]

Check your mfd power bars.

[naive vine]

Which section, all mining heads have full power

[vivid river]

Power cycle, stow and retake out the ship, change shards

[naive vine]

thx

[halcyon river]

Hi, I'm looking at the Reclaimer on erkul and spviewer as I'm considering a purchase.
erkul does not show the scraper modules at all. spviewer shows two trawlers.
Could anyone tell me what scrapers come on a Reclaimer and if it is two trawlers , can I change one of them for an abrade the same way as I can on the Vulture?
TIA.

[broken flare]

Anyone have a good cargo hauling videos to watch trying to get better at it I am also new to the game

[tall karma]

Stock is trawlers and they can be changed to abrades

[halcyon river]

Thank you very much!

[vestal ravine]

I like Jack Axton...http://www.youtube.com/@JackAxton

[vivid river]

At the moment I would not purchase it via irl money due to the volume of flaws and defects it has. I don't have much time to go over then but know that it is in need of dire rework

[halcyon river]

Appreciate the advice. Planning to buy with auec. 👍

[vivid river]

Its a great salvo just... maybe get a player to to help ya a lil

Itll go faster

[vivid river]

Oh also I recommend no bigger than 4scu when taking out your processed salvage, it will make it easier to get onto the elevator for selling or storage at a station

The elevator door is mere centimeters big for anything bigger so itll be a fight

[halcyon river]

Yeah, I've looted a few in vhrt bounties. a real pain to be sure 😂

[desert crypt]

I mean, they so lazy CiG couldn’t give ice asteroids an “ice rock” texture??
Asteroids should have some visual queues at a bare minimum

[vivid river]

Wait recl are in vhrt? Are HH there too?

[halcyon river]

only seen the HH in ert but reclaimers in vhrt for sure.

[late sinew]

My cargo wasn't transfered to my ship via autoload, nevber trusting that thing again, it now just in the ether somewhere...

[rancid epoch]

Was it from the refinery?

[late sinew]

from the Admin temrinal

I tried to autofill like an idiot

[weak tinsel]

its the same bug as refinery since its also autofill

[late sinew]

Are there any working game loops right now

[weak tinsel]

when you want to do that again
go to hangar Store your ship
wait in there for it to be stored
take out and wait again
store and wait again
wait is till the warning holograms around the pad dissapear and light goes back on

[late sinew]

I'll try that

[weak tinsel]

try with like 1scu cargo to not lose much

[late sinew]

ALl my money is gone, I have 550 SCU of fresh food stuck in Terra Mills because the frieght elevators no longer work... and I just lost the rest on scrap that just disappeared

[weak tinsel]

do simple missions get a lil bit of cash and go again
that is sadly all i can help

but i do feel you
i lost 2.5mil ish worth of refined metals the same way

[inland spire]

there's a stack of six 50k haul missions from Baijini straight down to Area18 that can all fit in a Taurus or larger with room to spare, and a couple more that you can pad up with for about 400k per run total

[analog bridge]

Hey all - any reason why I can't equip the Abrade module to the vulture?

[spare cloud]

You should be able to, what's going wrong ?

[vestal ravine]

Hit me up in DM mode after the event I can offer 80% share load from a Reclaimer mission if interested.

I took a Prospector to Pyro 4 last night found the Tin, Stilleron, Quant, Taranite. After Refining loaded to a ship and stored in the main inventory. THINGS WORKED AS PREDICTED!!

[willow tiger]

I'm assuming you guys have had the Refinement Center console bugs, but has anyone found a resolution? I can't get my ice out..

[weak tinsel]

if you mean the spinnin circle then alt+f4 while standing by terminals and joining back in fixes it for me

[sonic fiber]

It's alpha. Just assume a bug will always happen.

Heck I got 50mil of in game ships wiped last update. Oh well

Start from scratch with my 13 yr old Aurora and no creds

[weak tinsel]

that was in fact a intended wipe
when they added Pyro

[willow tiger]

Thanks, I'll try it

[honest grove]

Does cargo stored in warehouse get removed during a patch update?

[weak tinsel]

sometimes yes sometimes no

safer to sell it since money gets saved more often

[naive vine]

Whats a good gameplay loop for the reclaimer rn?

[safe estuary]

What’s up y’all I’m new

Anybody got a referral code?

[spare cloud]

!referral

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[vivid river]

bringing it up in your hanger and wishing it got its overhaul soon

jokes aside, havent touched mine since they nerfed salvo contracts

[naive vine]

Im pretty new, what did they nerf about them?

[vivid river]

they seem to have lowered the sizes you get on the contracts which means your no longer getting what you paid for. if you salvo everything you might break even, to included guns rockets and internals, oh also as far as i have experienced cant use your personal handhelds tractors since the game sees you as both trespassing and not since you bought the contract so you can only use your ships tractor if you have it installed ( so no internals) and if you do decided to salvage with the reclaimer id advise not putting out any bigger than 4scu to make getting them out of your ship not a picture perfect for loading its elevator

salvo profit is only good for the current SoD event

hopfully CIG reverts their changes or what ever bug plauges the salvo contracts after this event is done

id like to salvage something worth the 20 - 50k i spend on a contract

recl is a lost hope till after mid-late AI implementation at the earliest

a bit upset they messed with the salvo mission and still nothing on recl besides the 2 front guns that do nothing of value for the game play loop of the recl

we really need an inbetween of vulture and reclaimer for salvo

[weak tinsel]

its funny how having someone with a 890 ramming a planet is more worth the time and effort than actually intended ways of salvage
you can also have someone do HRT or above and salvage the aftermath

[vivid river]

i play solo bout 95% of the time, yea manning a recl is a small nightmare but at least the loop was both fun and profitable

oh speaking of, almost forgot, they nerfed the recls shields too

[weak tinsel]

well it is not ment to be a solo ship but i do understand your point
im mining in a mole alone and everyone seems to say its bad but its fun imo

[naive vine]

Yeah i enjoy the solo MOLE, isnt too difficult

[vivid river]

i just want this event to be done and salvage mission to revert -_- i dont care bout the vult paint anymore

[weak tinsel]

did they nerf savlage missions cuz of the event ?

really ?

[vivid river]

seems like it

[weak tinsel]

[vivid river]

i know buying commodities got nerfed, but i have come to the relization that 20 and 50k contract ship are all too small to even be there and i have seen the same type arrow for both 1k and 5k contracts

sooo stands to reason they nerfed salvage

[weak tinsel]

yeah would seem like it
but you may just join some random VC doing bounties and after they are done go in for scrapping

might end up working well

no need to cooperate with them at all beside using their QT beacons

[vivid river]

ehh not worth imo -_- id rather just go contract to contract lazily munchin away instead of awaiting someone to finish up a bounty that may or may not be worth the wait

havent seen any recl or HH in the contracts for so long -_- woulda been great for this event

anda temp fix for the recl woulda been to enlarge the salvage production bay floor of the recl

would been a great temp fix for it, not much work involved either as you arnt redesgining the whole ship just the elevator door of one bay

dont even need to touch all four sides of the door either just top and bottom

[weak tinsel]

they do not like doing anything fix wise especially ships so it is

[vivid river]

but the biggest issue is that damn trespassing alert since you cant use handheld tractors in the contract are you bought

[torpid bloom]

Ty btw! We found ice for the first time in a few days using this!!!

[vivid river]

i really hope someone at CIG even glanced at this lil rant

i get they wanna push us into pyro but this is a bit much
*the trespassing thing is only in stanton btw

not that pyro has any laws anyways to stop you from that

.> tempting to @ one of em, saw that a name had "player relations" in it

[weak tinsel]

worst you get is a

or nothing at all

[vivid river]

<.<

naw i dont really feel like bearkin one of the server rules >.> maybe a teams chief tho

... what even is a teams chief role here?? what do they do?

[weak tinsel]

prolly yell at interns

[royal hamlet]

I’ve tried looking in that area and found zero ice.

Ice is multiples of 1660, right? And is there a multiple for Tin?

[dusky obsidian]

Yeah 1660 for ice, you can also look up locations where ice is more common. Tins in a bunch of asteroids but I've been mining planets for it where it's more common. Check out regolith's data on the stuff to figure out where you want to go

[river helm]

when you're grabbing refined ore from the refinery, what happens if you have more than the ship can hold?

[weak tinsel]

it should not allow you to do so saying cargo exceeded

however if it lets you it will be voided and most likely the first order that was taken is also gone

[river helm]

and if you had a single order? like you tried to pull 20SCU into something with like 8SCU? It'll just eat the 12SCU yeah?

[weak tinsel]

to avoid that
go into hangar
retrieve the ship and wait looking at it
then hide while also waiting till the yellow ish "warning" signs disappear then go take the order out

[weak tinsel]

it will not let you
you need to have space for THE WHOLE load of the refinery

you can take ten 20scu orders into a 200scu ship tho

[river helm]

so rent a bigger cargo ship

[vivid river]

or store at station an make multi trips

[weak tinsel]

yeah i take out like 3 or more orders
put them into the station since CIG is lazy and wont let me do it from refinery
then i cann fill my ship 100% making less trips

[inland spire]

can I just leave bugged cargo on the elevator? i.e. cargo that did not fulfill its contract when I delivered but lost its "contractness" and ended up in my personal storage?

or will it remain in my personal storage if I leave it on the elevator?

(also if anyone has any tip about how to avoid this stupid bug, will be very much appreciated)

[tall linden]

So trying out my new reclaimer, fracture a HH, desintegrated it, showed I got 208/240 scu, flew to a station, landed, went to eject, and now it's 0/240 scu. Bug or did I miss something?

[vivid river]

Shard change bug

As soon as I'm done with a salvage I spit out all my crates

So I ive never ran into that issue before

[tall linden]

Thanks for the info

Will do that next time.

[vivid river]

Glad to help out a fellow recl salvager

[hollow mortar]

Going to be fun trying to match this in Ice

[vestal ravine]

I finally found Tin on Pyro 4

[reef smelt]

are the pyro priority cargo mission profitable?

[hoary hinge]

insanely so

[reef smelt]

cool, about how much net profit would i make with a titan doing the 391k missions?

[hoary hinge]

how are you getting the resources?
The buy price has been inflated and the respawn rate lowered, far better off mining/salvaging/stealing then running the cargo

[reef smelt]

ive been trying to buy the recycled material and stuff because i dont have a salvage ship atm

[hoary hinge]

Fastest way without a Prospector or Vulture to do these is probably to do VHRTs/ERTs in Stanton and take the copper and corundum from the bounty targets
Lots of 8 and 16SCU boxes.

Alternatively, you could try the Detatrine jobs, I've heard the depot on Terminus is far less violent than the other ones

[reef smelt]

Awesome, thanks for the help

[hoary hinge]

If you want to buy tin&ice, or RMC&CM, you will spend a lot of time camping trade terminals to get some boxes

[hoary hinge]

doing the RMC/CM by purchasing the commodities will net you about 12k/SCU profit

[reef smelt]

This helps a bunch, thank a lot!

[obsidian pine]

does anyone sell tin?

[vestal ravine]

I thought I saw some at Orbituary but it was a small amount and sold out.

[dreamy scaffold]

anybody know if you can use contracted Tin or Ice for the prio mission?

[leaden monolith]

Pretty sure that is a hard no. Those crates are marked contract or some such. You can't sell them anywhere. Same is probably true for the priority missions.

I guess another pointer is that there are still contracts to haul that stuff. I can almost guarantee if you could use the contracted stuff those contracts would be rarer than hens teeth.

[hollow aspen]

pretty sure it becomes stolen cargo when u leave the server. a friend could take it

[glad ivy]

I did quite a few solo runs between Ruin and Watchers Depot on Terminus in my RAFT which is mercifully fast to load for events like these. Encountered others a couple of times, was shot at once but was already spooling so got out of that.

I have found FEO Depot to either be completely dead or a warzone

[orchid void]

Are asteroids shared between shards?

And between regions?

[mild lantern]

That new mining ship is weird

The mining boxes are larger - by a lot - than the Prospector or Mole bags... yet hold the same as the Porspector?

And no interior whatsoever, so you are attached to a station at all times

I guess the ship itself is minscule and the containers are Drake... so bare bones

[vivid river]

Well it looks to be just 1 mining bags whereas prospector has 2 i belive.
This also might be an intro to drake mining bags, drake bags may be larger

I can only assume since I don't got the specs in front of me nor have I seem the ship itself in-game

[mild lantern]

2 larger boxes vs Prospector's 4 small bags - however, they dont compare equaly in size

[vivid river]

Huh really? Interesting

I can only see one one the photo i have on the golem

[teal otter]

is it a current bug that when you are loading cargo and atlas kill you while your ship is on the pad all your cargo you loaded into your ship despawn?

[vivid river]

Yes keep atls clear of any walls, as far as I've heard

[hidden garden]

Two down the middle

[vivid river]

Ptu side, am I able to grab it or do i need someone from evo?

[hidden garden]

The new ship is basically a large argo mpuv with a miner head and two large bag slots

[vivid river]

Again I only have 2 photos of it a side view and a front side view
With those i can only see the 1 bag

Im guessing they are side by side?

[hidden garden]

It has one in the middle and one behind that between the engines

[vivid river]

Mmm that's why, I cant see behind the engines

So how do you get the one between the engines out? Is it free underneath?

[hidden garden]

Evenlease showed off a preview video and he takes them off

Yeah do you know the mpuv cargo?

[vivid river]

Guess I have a video to watch

[hidden garden]

The ship is setup similar to this

[vivid river]

I got one, not to ecstatic bout it

Seems cool but as a solo it'd be fast with a max lift

Even the atls is a bit wildly to control

Im waitin till end of year or next year for hotas

Hopefully it'll be better control for ship/vehicle tractors

[hidden garden]

The new starter mining with vehicles is now cutter atls geo instead of nomad/cutty black and roc

[vivid river]

Mmm

Honestly I'm just waitin on a between ship of vulture and recl for salvage

[hidden garden]

That would be nice, but only salvage I know of will be the rsi starter

[vivid river]

Yeaaaa im not to pleased with that but at least we got a starter now

I just wished that they gave us that in-between instead of the fortune

[hidden garden]

I mean there's nothing wrong with starter options.

[vivid river]

I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with it im just upset/depressed with the recl situation

It just needs the elevator door enlarged a bit as a temp fix

[inland spire]

I've got hotas, great for flying, but still prefer mouse for tractor control

hotas is great for e.g. tracking a moving target once you're on it, but not so great for quickly moving aim to a very specific point, which is typically what you do with tractor

that said, tractors are much more usable with FPS mouse controls (press Q)

[hidden garden]

Recl is a little bad atm

[vivid river]

Never knew they had a secondary mode

Need to remember that for sure

[vivid river]

Well known and documented

[inland spire]

oh it's a game changer, once you try it you're not likely to forget about it

[vivid river]

Too bad I'm at work rn
Would def try it rn otherwise

[inland spire]

can't wait to finish work so I can go back to work in SC 😅

[vivid river]

Just watched, damn seems pretty cool wonder how many fit in a polaris or if small enough a galaxy

[random radish]

Are Vaughn missions still viable just got back into the game after a couple months and was wondering what to run with a friend

[hidden garden]

Mayhaps

[shell sorrel]

6 in polaris ish

[quaint raptor]

Any org out there that represents Player professions as a Union???

My upcoming Org will need Union support and Reps 🤣 🤣 🤣

[knotty dove]

better question if you unload Golems pods onto cargo ship does refinery see them?

[hidden garden]

Does it see that with the prospector pods?

[knotty dove]

dunno

[pearl juniper]

Not in live that I know of, but with mining getting a renewed focus, maybe that is coming

[royal hamlet]

Seems to make sense if it does, judging by the look of the pods. They are rectangular shaped like a 16 SCU crate, so I'm hoping you can remove and transport via cargo ship.

[vestal ravine]

I haven't used the Prospector in a while does bedlogging work on it? Thx.

[glass dust]

can mining bags be put in to elevator and refined later or you need to keep it in the mining ship? didnt done any mining for couple of years

[brittle tusk]

I dont know about keeping it for later but it needs to be on the mining ship when going to refine at least

[glass dust]

that is how I remember it. so sad

[brittle tusk]

Could be wrong tho, people have been suggesting taking the new Golem mining ship out with a c2 and other mining bags. Might take some time unloading into refinery

[vivid river]

Ima take out with the polaris

[hidden garden]

Ima take out with the carrack

[drowsy phoenix]

curious... can you just have a "mining" ship and then something like the C2, disconnect the bags with a tractor beam, and just rotate bags on the mining ship, and then when you're done and have like 1000 scus of raw ore take it to a processing center, store the C2, and start a processing job with the thousand SCUs? I mean it would take a week to process, but can it be done?

[hidden garden]

I don't know about how storing it on another ship and doing it like that would work, but I do know you can just rotate the bags out

[orchid void]

you can't empty the bags if those aren't attached to a ship, and currently the only ship to which you can attach bags are mining ships

as far as I know

[flint forge]

has this aaron halo changed since 4.0? i tried following the advice on the interwebs but i could not fight a single rock to mine

[tribal garden]

anywhere to sell the new ROC mineables yet??

[royal hamlet]

I used it yesterday and it works fine.

[torpid bloom]

Yep! Go check out the regolith site. They have a "data" page on rock type compositions. Here it will show you the % chance and the average composition %'s for each rock type. There's another page for checking each planet/RAB/cluster's likelihood of spawning each type of rock!

You can click on the yellow number on the top right of each rock type to see the scanning multiples of each rock type.

[drowsy phoenix]

any chance we can get the pins updated with the new stuff in pyro? it's nice to have it right there vs going out to a website

[visual berry]

Are the cargo elevators at outposts borked? Or did I just get unlucky with the one cargo mission I tried?

[limpid sluice]

Frequently, yes

[mild pumice]

If it's one of the mining outposts then yeah, 9/10 times they're stuck. I avoid all hauling missions to outposts now

The DC ones are good if you want to do the local missions

[inland spire]

I bought an ATLS, and sometimes it will automatically pull the picked up cargo to itself and then place it where aimed with a single click, but sometimes it will pick up the cargo just like a regular tractor and I'll then have to scroll to bring it to me or send it away to place, how is this supposed to work?

[inland spire]

nobody knows?

[craggy tapir]

does it work like a normal tractor beam if you pick them off the ship grid?

[inland spire]

sometimes

if I drop it where I picked it up and try a couple more times, it will eventually turn back to the regular pull with a single click

[pearl juniper]

It's if it was attached to a ship grid or not. You can pick it up off the grid, and then double click to drop it and grab it again in mid air and it will go back to "atlast beam" mode. It's annoying for unloading a ship, but useful for repositioning cargo on the grid so I can see why they did it.

I wish they would make it left click for Atlas mode and right click for normal tractor beam mode...

or some keybind to toggle between the two

[craggy tapir]

i have done some tests and the cutter Scout is the smallest and best ship for ATLS-Geo transport

[mild pumice]

This is SC, things work 'sometimes'

[inland spire]

😐

[hollow sedge]

is beam spacing control on the Vulture bugged atm? no matter what keeb or stick bindings I use, nothing is happening. never had a problem in the past

[hoary hinge]

sometimes they get a bit out of sync, and it can help to toggle gimballed mode back and forth to resync the point that they meet

[nova elm]

Dear,

Someone got a website where it reference all of the signals (emissions) of the commodities minable ?

For example, what is the signal of one rock of Titanium. Etc. .

[hoary hinge]

https://regolith.rock

[sonic fiber]

New atls, but don't suppose they fixed how you call it

[sullen sentinel]

Wym. Calling it isn't broken

[amber obsidian]

Do you have a recommended route for the member rank hauling mission?

[mild pumice]

At Microtech you can stack up to 6 missions that go to the same 3 locations, it takes a bit of sorting through but gets a good chunk of rep/credits

[amber obsidian]

thanks

Isn't it for member rank?

[mild pumice]

There's a similar setup at Hurston too but it's only 3 at a time I think (dropping to DCs) avoid the ones for the regular outposts

[mild pumice]

Yes these are specifically member rank

[amber obsidian]

thank you

[nova elm]

Not working

[mild pumice]

What I used to do was get a notepad and list the 3 locations and 6 commodities then how much of each to drop at each location instead of trying to track 6 missions. Avoid taking multiple missions with the same commodity

[hoary hinge]

mb
https://regolith.rocks/

[hoary hinge]

Depending on what ship you're using you could also cluster the contracts away from each other, just gotta remember which is which

[mild pumice]

Yeah that works too

[hoary hinge]

To take that further, get a small dyr-erase board
draw your cargo hold in permanent marker
mark out each contract in dry-erase marker

[sonic fiber]

It's inefficient. You have to call atls, move it off pad, call ship

[nova elm]

How it works ?

[sonic fiber]

There should be a separate ground pad

[nova elm]

Like how do I select for only ice and that's it

[pearl juniper]

people tend to say fix when they mean upgrade. Probably hoping for it to be brought up by the freight elevator (which WOULD be great)

[nova elm]

Like how do I get the emission for one rock of Ice, two, etc. .

[dusky obsidian]

https://regolith.rocks/survey/rock_class

[blissful obsidian]

anyone in here a Hull-C user, i need to know how to put cargo on it from station

[nova elm]

Saying 100% on Pyr3 - L1, went there, nothing

[nova elm]

Been looking for one hour at the place where we got 40% to get I-Types, none. .

[regal tide]

Can someone please explain why I am getting these numbers above it won't let me add any more boxes says it's exceeded capacity

[brisk rock]

how much money is the prospector making per hour in this patch?

[wanton carbon]

Im getting into some Hull C hauling for some casual gameplay,

Are interplanetary contracts the only ones i can do?

I tried doing some from seraphim to cru l1 but i could drop it off at cru l1 is it only planet stations?

[ornate halo]

The answer is YES 🙂

[brisk rock]

I can net 300K per hour in the ROC

[ornate halo]

Its location dependent - but any mining can make a ton. Tin is so freaking valuable and common

Honestly- if you're making less than 2M an hour currently, you're doing it wrong

[brisk rock]

I will correct myself then

[ornate halo]

Its ok- it snuck up on people... in fact, it took me a week to actually check things, then I was like "WTF????"

I'm totally embarrassed

[brisk rock]

Is the tin only in pyro though?

[ornate halo]

Tin in pyro. If you want to stay in stanton, I'd do corundum from Clio or Copper from CRU-L5

Those are less lucrative, but will still net you large bank

Together- and turned in in Pyro Gateway, will give you even more, but its not a huge difference and I find flying to Pyro Gateway a PITA- so YMMV

Just to compare- I've been flying my Mole tonight for Ice: I have about 4 million or so worth in about 2.5 hours being very casual....

Slow night- but I have crap luck with Ice

[pearl juniper]

tin and ice together are worth up to 57k per SCU. I'll let you do the math 😉

[hoary hinge]

CIG: "Uhh idk"

[terse abyss]

Anyone had success turning in the Pyro Salvage Contracts lately? Sometimes I can turn in CMs but not RMC. Other times (like tonight) it won't accept any of the boxes I have. It's weird.

[royal hamlet]

I found maybe 8 SCU of ice in about 1-1.5 hours.

[ornate halo]

Are you looking at the right spot? It drops slightly more in RABs than Clusters, but occurs in both- and check for signatures with multiples of 1660

[orchid void]

I’ve also had a very hard time finding ice in those spots tbh lately

So lil 1660 signatures and when they spawn it’s super small asteroids (20/30SCUs) with 40/60% of ice.

[naive vine]

The catarpillars tractor beams really need a rework, can literally only unload the compartment closest to the beam and thats it, it cant reach the rest

[rare garnet]

the games most complicated profession: Mining
Step 1: Retrieve a ship to get a hangar.
Step 2: Store the ship to potentially save it from getting destroyed.
Step 3: Get to hangar and retrieve ship again.
Step 4: Store ship and make sure it's stored (icons for access points gone from hangar and terminal confirm stored state).
Step 5: Get to refinery and get goods.
Conundrum: I can't transfer completed jobs to any ship, options is just greyed out, forced to server swap).
Repeat step 1 to 5.

[spare cloud]

You should not need to retrieve a ship to get a hangar everytime you relog.

Primary residence or not.

[rare garnet]

I only start with medium hangar for my Mole at that station and I have a C2 for my refinery destinations, which needs a large hangar.
but all of these steps are only to circumvent current issues and bugs that would make cargo locked to grid and hopefully prevent ships from getting destroyed upon retrieval of ships from lobbies... one day, we will be able to dare to trust the game and it's core mechanics
Hopefully the implementation of "Death of a Spaceships" is miles or heck even light years away from implementation at least long before these current bugs makes sure to let us feel loved

[desert crypt]

So I was like “why Geo?”, until I realized it should fit in a Cutter like an ATLS, so now a starter ship can go out “ROC” minim without a bigger ship and ROC.

[spare cloud]

Cutter could already go ROC mining

Just need to not close the ramp or 💀

[brittle tusk]

Is the event commodities prices going back down after the event?

[weak tinsel]

most likely yes

[mild pumice]

They'll probably forget lol

[ionic elm]

How long do we estimate CIG will tolerate the clipped ore bags?

[knotty dove]

Til Golem goes on sale

[vivid river]

I beg to differ, they still haven't fixed the normal ore bag clipping

My bets are on arrasta release or later

[mild pumice]

My guess is it's probably on backlog whist the figure out the whole refining process for ships and also bringing the refinery process up to date, I wouldn't be surprised if you had to empty the bags down the freight elevator or something in the future

[warm totem]

QOL - updates, lets see em!

[pearl juniper]

I wonder if some aspect of it isn't intended. They added the collapsed pods in this patch, so the Mole for example has 96scu of storage, plus an additional 192scu of collapsed bags, assuming you have a buddy with a cargo ship to haul them. What if the intention is that you can choose between having a total of 288scu worth of bags with cargo ship support, or 192scu without cargo ship support?

[proper ridge]

I am just not understanding this game. I mined a bunch of crap and had it refined at Green Glade, took 27 hours. Had it loaded into my Taurus, took it to Everus Harbor to sell. Went up to commodities, no cargo to sell and the ship is now empty. Is Everus Harbor a legit place to sell? Any way I can find my cargo again?

[limpid sluice]

You can try storing and retrieving your ship from the in-hangar ASOP terminal, it might bring back the cargo

There's a bug right now where if you don't store your ship before you leave the hangar, when it autostores, it makes any cargo on the grid disappear.

[ionic elm]

I know the spare bags is intended, but the MOLE store page says you can only have 8 active at once... They probably won't change it until you can inflate the other bags

[vivid obsidian]

Has anyone here done the 26m or 13m priority tin/ice missions so I could ask them questions ;^;

[undone adder]

Shhhhhhh….

[merry cipher]

this may have been answered already ... do we know if the boxes on the golem can be sent to the refinery from station inventory .. or any ore container for that matter in 4.1

[ionic elm]

I've done the 26mil one

[vivid obsidian]

Did you refine them at the ruin station? Or buy and transport. Or refine at a different station

[proper ridge]

Ah, okay. I thought it was the other way around. I went ahead and rage quit when I lost the cargo, tried to go ahead and head back to Green Glade and was like number 20 in line to leave. I think I am done with refining stuff unless there is a way to directly sell the refined materiel and not having to transport it around.

[vivid obsidian]

Just tryna figure out if I messed up by refining like...300+scu of ice at ruin o.e

[ionic elm]

I refined and turned in at Checkpoint. The mission turn in locations bounce between Orbituary, Ruin and Checkpoint and I just kept accepting them and abandoning until I got Checkpoint.

If you got that much Ice at Ruin, you can just refine your Tin there as well

[vivid obsidian]

That's what I was going to be trying. Is it easy to deliver to the same station if you dont have a delivery vehicle AT ALL?

Like...I think I have no ships with actual cargo.

[ionic elm]

Oh... you are going to need a cargo ship to collect your refined goods.

[vivid obsidian]

That's fine, I can always rent one.

You'll have to forgive me. I've made all my money off mining and selling copper ^^;

[ionic elm]

what ship are you mining with?

[vivid obsidian]

Been playing for 3 years and never done hauling.

Eh, depends. I use both but I prefer the mole. It's just rented

But my pros is my pledge

I've actually been looking for a mining group because it's all I do x.x

[ionic elm]

ok. You could get away with a RAFT rental or similar size since a stock mole refined total will never be above 96 for ice and tin in pyro

[vivid obsidian]

Question, when you're delivering to the mission can you bring it incrementally? Like let's say i have a c1 or something. Could I bring it at 48 a time?

[ionic elm]

Nope. Have to deliver the entire refinery order at once

[vivid obsidian]

Yeesh..I can't even store part of it then come back with the rest? It's all or nothing?

If that's the case...how do I even do the mission normally without a c2 or catt

Which...I'm kinda trying to do this mission TO buy

XD

[ionic elm]

rental ships or just make sure your orders don't exceed the max cargo size you can do

[vivid obsidian]

WAIT. I don't mean refinery order. I meant like pull the order. Then transport that ice to ruin, then go back for more orders to fill it

[ionic elm]

OH for the mission? Don't take the mission till you have your stockpiles of 226 ice and 226 tin ready

because its all at once

[vivid obsidian]

I'm saying can I turn in the ice and tin to the priority mission incrementally. I knew about the refining. I'm a miner XD

Ah, gotcha

[ionic elm]

yeah for any of the SoD missions, stockpile resources at a dropoff, then take the mission

[vivid obsidian]

Ok ok good. So as long as all of it is stored in ruin i can take the mission and essentially auto complete? Or do i have to re-call it up the elevator

Sorry for all the questions x.x I haven't had many people I've gotten to answer these ^^;

[ionic elm]

You will have to run the cargo elevators

[vivid obsidian]

But thanks for the help! I just wanted to make sure refining it all at ruin wasn't a bad move.

Gotcha

[ionic elm]

Yeah, Ruin works perfectly since its one of the possible turn in spots. You can just accept and abandon the mission over and over until Ruin pops up

[vivid obsidian]

I've heard it depends on where you are? Is it true if I'm standing AT ruin it may not move to that one? But the other two

[ionic elm]

Na. It just seems that way. I sat at my hangar in checkmate for like 30m trying to get it to pop up at checkmate and it finally did

[vivid obsidian]

Well thank you a million ^^

Knowing my ice and tin will be deliverable at the very station I'm refining take a large portion of the fear away from this mission. I was so scared to haul. Especially if I was gonna have to take like....7-9 trips

[royal hamlet]

You can turn it in incrementally, but you don't want to risk taking the contract too early in case your game crashes or bugs out and then you have to leave the server. Taking the contract only when you have enough stock and when you're ready to haul or bring it up then down in the elevator eliminates most risks of things going wrong.

But for example, I was running the Copper and Corundum contracts (13M) in Stanton with a Caterpillar. I took the contract and made two trips to complete it, meaning, I was able to partially deliver.

[vivid obsidian]

Sweetness. You've been extremely helpful ^^ danke my friend

[royal hamlet]

Another thing to note is, when you send down your cargo, it may not look correct in the confirmation screen but once you deliver it you'll see your contract status in the top-right corner and that will be accurate. Also, if you deliver more than the amount needed (for example, your last haul puts you at 228 Ice when you only need to deliver 226) the difference will be saved in your warehouse, which according to my example you'll see an extra 2 SCU.

[vivid obsidian]

Ok dope. So i don't have to seperate exactly

[royal hamlet]

No, you should be good.

[leaden monolith]

Does the store ship, wait till the lights come back on help with or fix the auto loading issues when trading commodities?

[royal hamlet]

Contracted cargo on the otherhand, that you'll obviously have to deliver exactly what they give you (in terms of total SCU)

[royal hamlet]

From my experience, I do the following:

• Store ship and wait until the serial number disappears (or when the lights come on)
• Go to Commodities ASOP, select the ship (or sometimes I select my gamertag in the drop-down) then continue to confirming auto-load
• I go to the elevators and go down to my hangar which should still be listed .I do NOT call up my ship from the ASOP terminal unless I'm in my hangar, if it's possible. That's how your ship can risk getting destroyed.

[leaden monolith]

Thanks. I'm getting sick of manually loading my C2. Sometimes I can fill it easily with 16's and other times I just can't get one or several boxes to fit. I'll start with partial loads until I get confident that it works (fairly) consistently.

[royal hamlet]

Ah, sorry, you meant auto-loading for cargo hauling and not commodities like mining?

I noticed with the C2 when filling it, the sides where the ships cargo ceiling curves it's very difficult to fit larger crates.

[candid bay]

What mining head and modules for ice mining in a prospector?

[drowsy phoenix]

what rank do you have to be with Covalex to get the Hull C missions?

[hollow aspen]

26mil prio mission requires 228 scu of each not 226

@vivid obsidian have u refined before? if not be careful of the cargo stuck to cargo grid bug. if u dont know about it i can clue u in and tell u how i personally avoid it

[royal hamlet]

Either way, same concept. You send down more, you don't lose it. But thanks for the correction.

[hollow aspen]

yea i wasnt gonna say anything but u mentioned it a few times so i thought u might wanna be accurate

[royal hamlet]

It's good to correct me, especially if I'm answering someone who's (assumably) new and misinformation may throw them off.

[leaden monolith]

No you assumed correct. I was talking commodities. Having lost commodities to autoload I've been reticent to try it again. Time to bite the bullet.

[vivid obsidian]

I have. It's all I do in game ^^; only way i know how to make somewhat efficient income x.x

[royal hamlet]

What is the auto-load bug anyway? Is it when you're retrieving your ship something happens? I have yet to experience the bug so I'm not sure if it's the routine I have going on or just luck.

[vivid obsidian]

Auto loading the refinery order can make it invisible. It won't recognize it's there if you try to deliver/sell

[leaden monolith]

It just takes your money and doesn't deliver any cargo.

[vivid obsidian]

At least that's what I encountered

[leaden monolith]

the store and retrieve fix for invisible cargo never worked for me with that autoload issue.

[royal hamlet]

Oh, that sounds nice lol

[sonic fiber]

Refining issue seems simple. Just have the mining ship print boxes of raw material like salvagers. Then you store them or sell them or refinery them

[glad ivy]

I use autoload a lot and the biggest problems I've encountered are when something crazy happens in the hangar, like when you land but then teleport 25km away still in your ship, or the hangar interior disappears and you're floating inside the model of the station.

That last one happened to me earlier and I'm hoping that if I give it enough time then Caterpillar will revert to a stored state, or I'm down 1.4m!

Autoload itself never given me issues, and anytime something crazy happens and the station won't buy the cargo I find that another station will.

Worst case scenario is that the station stops buying from you entirely until the next patch. No idea why!

[nova elm]

Searching for two hours Ice never found one rock. Done RAB-COOK, RAB-XENo etc. . Any ideas?

[wintry mango]

Wonder when the Starlancer will be available again

[royal hamlet]

Would also love to know.

[nova elm]

Dam, you are in the same shir as me. . xD

[royal hamlet]

Gonna DM you and see if we can help each other out.

[vestal ravine]

My refinery order won't complete to the ship. Any workarounds? It's needed for the mission I shared.

[vestal ravine]

The top sites I have for Ice are Terminus, caj 445, RABs at Sierra, Cook, and Ultra. If none seem to show up server hop.

[royal hamlet]

Is there a bit of a timer until they pop-up again?

[hollow aspen]

i mined 290 ice yesterday lemme check where exactly

RAB-BRAVO to the right of and on the same orbit as Bloom

did all my ice mining there

[royal hamlet]

Thank you! I'll check it out soon. I need to make some $$ before the end of the event.

[hollow aspen]

then u better get out there today cause refining is a pain in the ass especially for ice

[royal hamlet]

A pain as-in time it takes to refine?

[hollow aspen]

yup

u could always use a lower yield refine process but who wants to do that

[hollow sedge]

just had a full buffer of CMAT vanish between leaving Yela rings and getting to the station, anyone else had this recently?

[mild pumice]

yes, it's related to the QT fuel bug, because you cross DGS between Yela and Crusader in space and the ship state doesn't always save between servers

As a workaround I've been flying somewhere safe from the ring then printing my boxes, I know it wastes the buffer but it's better than losing a buffer of Salvage, the first one I lost was like 80scu RMC as well so I was proper gutted

[dim tinsel]

how much scu is this

is it like 1 scu per 100 of whatever

[mild pumice]

😦 Just got to Ruin Station with 300scu of CMs and crashed in the hangar

looks like I'm not getting the crash recovery now - wonder where I spawn and if my ship is still there

weird it shows my ship stored at Orison so maybe it still has the cargo onboard

(starlancer)

Well it sees the two loose boxes on the ship but not the full grid, guess I will go and see if it's there the shard must've died and ship was recovered by 30k protection

[mild pumice]

Cargo still on ship but terminal can't see it - will see if I can unload it, I think it might be stuck to the grid now though so might have to call the last few hours of work a write off LOL

is this that bug where the cargo is locked to the grid?

[vestal ravine]

I haven't had this issue but try a Maxlift or Atls. Maybe unload from the opposite end?? Good luck.

[mild pumice]

is it worth trying to fly the ship somewhere else see if the TDD will take it or lost cause?

(TDD at Orison dosen't see it)

[inland spire]

the multitool will only lift up to 8 SCU, according to starcitizen.tools

[mild pumice]

It does lift 16s

The cargo is stuck to the grid I also found the IC and confirmed 30k protection when it auto stores your ship locks the grid

[vestal ravine]

I got in the game and my avatar at Orbituary seems to have a perma lockup on transferring refined goods to the ship. This is on 2 different PC's and three new shards/logins.

[vestal ravine]

https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-161528 I have found a LOT of the refinery terminals have this problem. Got it with my 2nd account also. Combined with my event salvage materials locking up there's not much chance I can finish the Supply event. I have only 3 small missions registered and been playing this event almost every day since it started. El Bummero...

[vivid condor]

Just party with people doing the event, it’s easy to complete if you aren’t mining and refining the mats yourself, detatrine is easy to get in a group and many people have the other mats stocked up and don’t mind helping others

[vestal ravine]

I know that is an option but like the RMC and CM loops those were busted for me to. At first I could complete the RMC salvage types but later these locked up also.

[knotty dove]

F

[leaden monolith]

Do I have to wait for the auto-unload timer to run out before I buy my next load of cargo using autoload?

[rain tinsel]

has anyone tried the ATLS geo in the PTU? I am hoping the ATLS is no longer a Murder Hobo.

[glad ivy]

Anyone got any hot tips for Hull C hauling/trading?

[hollow aspen]

Yup

[hard siren]

Any uk orgs i can join

[high hinge]

so i was directed to post my question here. i'm new and have about 10hr in the game, i'm trying to save 2.3M, what's the best way to accomplish this?

[sonic fiber]

Do what you like, mission wise, or job. It'll come

[vivid river]

If you like salvage there's always risky salvo that pays you for clean up. There is a time limit, most if not all 8k payouts you got 1h till cops show up everything else pretty much 30min unless it tells you

This timer starts when your in the AO of the contract

Otherwise I hear bounty work pays well the higher risk your contract is

I wouldn't recommend mining rn till after the update (hopefully) too many things bugged

Not fast but cargo is there, tho it seems a hit or miss with it's bugs

Hope this helped

Oh rn for normal salvage I wouldn't recommend, the pay out ain't worth it anymore imo CIG downgraded the size of the contracts
Im hoping its just for the current SOD event goin on rn but won't know till after the next update

GL and happy spacefaring

[mild pumice]

If it's industrial gameplay you enjoy you've come to the right place, I would recommend renting a Hull A and doing cargo missions, you can stack several together to improve the pay out. You can also rent a prospector and go mining for copper/conundrum and turn it in for the supply or die missions. If you like other types of gameplay of course there's other things you can do like the fight for pyro missions in Pyro or bounty hunting/bunkers

[unique crown]

whats the ideal station for salvagers?

[vivid river]

if your doin risky, Grim Hex, Yela.
for all others? anywhere is fine

[pearl juniper]

I reworked and updated my mining laser power calculator today so that it has all of the data for all the lasers and modules (that effect power and resistance), and drop down menus to select them. This makes it really easy to compare loadouts for your Prospector or Mole. I think I got all the bugs worked out of it, but let me know if you run into any issues with it.

[pearl juniper]

For those unfamiliar, this is the spreadsheet used to generate charts like this, which have been shared here in the past. But now easily customized for different loadouts.

[warm totem]

last night the station model was missing most of it, and had little to no collision so I literally flew out the other side recalled for a hanger and this time it worked as expected...def a bit of a scare as I was afraid I couldnt go or do anything to get out at first or land.

[plush sandal]

Does anyone here run solo mole? Is it worth it?

I've got the money to get one, wondering if I should or just go with a prospector.

I asked in game and like 3 people said it's fine, just wanted more opinions lol

[tall karma]

Hull C question - does the Hull C dock at all the stations in Pyro, or just the main ones?

Really more of a docking port question I guess.

[vivid river]

i belive its just the main ones

[rain tinsel]

its the ones with a Cargo Center, so the main ones for now

[vivid river]

theres your better answer @tall karma ^^^^

[rain tinsel]

yep its worth it, up to 192 SCU per run

[tall karma]

They all have cargo centers.

Gaslight, starlight, blah blah - cargo centers.

Megumi.

[rain tinsel]

no, only the main stations have cargo centers

[tall karma]

It would be the ones with Docking Port 01/02 in the Elevators.

[rain tinsel]

for now

[tall karma]

This isn't correct. I live on Gaslight 90% of the time, and go to cargo center to get my armor and max lifts.

[rain tinsel]

so most of the smaller stations have a refinery, gallery and hangers

[tall karma]

Are you talking in Stanton?

[rain tinsel]

the larger ones have a Cargo Center

yes

[tall karma]

Cause the question was Pyro..

[rain tinsel]

ok

[tall karma]

I wanna dock at some stations in pyro, and I am pretty sure the answer I was given is correct. Only the main stations are likely to have docking ports.

[plush sandal]

I mean annoyance wise, as far as seat switching and stuff

[rain tinsel]

yep, the cargo center is required to load and unload freight externally, and those will have the docking ports

not sure which ones in pyro

[vivid river]

ive head its been worth it

[tall karma]

All stations in Pyro have a cargo center is what I'm saying, but not all of them have Docking ports.

[rain tinsel]

well yeah theres switching around, you will want to crew up when you can, you can break 3 mil plus quant rocks like that with a single mole

OIC patch, from what I have seen maybe the docking ports were blown off?

[vivid river]

there was a good set up for it leeme scroll for it @plush sandal

[rain tinsel]

Helix 2, Rieger C3 x 3, Helix 2 Focus 3 X 1, Rieger C3 x 2, Hofstead 2 Focus 3 x 2

[plush sandal]

Thanks guys, gonna go dump my hard earned credits now lol

[vivid river]

found it

#industrial-professions message

if you scroll round there a bit you can find more load outs (i think) but there was a whole convo bout it around that time

[tall karma]

Also looks like all the pyro stations have docking ports, you can "Docking" listed when you search them in F2, and just went to a smaller one and it had a port.

[ivory fractal]

In older versions of SC repping up salvaging would give you more illicit cargo in the missions, that's been removed right? is there any reason to do legit salvage missions over the illegal missions around yela?

[tall karma]

The main difference is whether it has a means to unload the cargo, I guess that's the big different.

[vivid river]

yes actually risky salvo actually pays you under certain contracts i belive the rates were 8k and 24k
8k giving you an hour till the Feds show up
24k gives you 30min i belive

the other risky that you pay for is a gamble

there might be some cargo to loot or it might just be bust

but the SoD event has both the buying terminals and salvo nerfed so the only good thing for salvage, clean or not, is the ones that pay you imho

i havent played with salvage in a bit before 4.0.1 sooo i cant answer about the cargo types rn, buut i do know that it was nerfed a good bit

not horrendously though, with it being risky it makes it, .. made it an actual gamble

i suggest (if you dont have a 890 or cap ship find a friend) finding a friend to help you much you own ships

[plush sandal]

on the mole, which mining head is on the main turret? 1 or 2?

It's 1

[pearl juniper]

1 front, 2 left, 3 right

[supple lava]

Is anyone else getting blacked out commodity terminals on multiple shards?

I’m trying to sell at a Pyro outpost and can click F but it just focuses me on a blank blacked out screen.

[vivid river]

ive had a similar issue onle once but switch regions worked for me otherwise i waited till the next day

[supple lava]

Ok thanks

[vestal ravine]

Well tonight the refinery order loaded to the ship okay and my salvage missions worked so was able to snag the Display award!! Took 22 days of hell. Onward and upward!!

[hollow aspen]

\o/

@vestal ravine what u mining?

[vestal ravine]

I have a pretty big amount of the Ice along with the other 3 minerals for the Supply or Die event. I also have CM and RMC but since all the side problems with the game and running 2 characters jacks up the time to get the missions completed.

[mild pumice]

I had a better morning than yesterday lol (lost all my salvage to a 30k yesterday)

Today instead of unloading and reloading my CMs into another ship I just ran the Reclaimer to Pyro, unloaded 240scu of CMs into Ruin Station and then took my Vulture out and scraped panels at the terminus ring.

Got enough in a short Vulture session to turn in 3x small salvage missions so just under 1.2m for my couple of hours today

Loads of CMs left so I'll be good for a while

17 missions at 391k will net me around 6.6 mil. Nice

[fair slate]

Any mining guilds still rollin?

[tall karma]

Whats it mean in a Hull C when you go to sell and it says something like "Size Mismatch Error" and instructs you to load the cargo into a freight elevator?

[mild pumice]

Does the location not accept the commodity in that size? Also trust you're at a location that the Hull C can trade?

[vestal ravine]

Frontier Consolidated has a lot of mining activities and a discord channel.

[inland spire]

holy shit, I just managed to fly my Vulture all the way from the halo to Seraphim station with half my thrusters blown off in an accident, and managed to land in a hangar and get my ship repaired

while also managing to get stuck in Crusader's gravity well and climb out of it

it's fun figuring out what maneuvers you still have available and what you should definitely not do

[naive vine]

Has contruction materials always sold for so little?

180 for like 200k

[mild pumice]

They were reduced a while ago because it's so easy to fill a Reclaimer in a few minutes

[inland spire]

which makes no sense economically considering the demand for them for supply contracts

[naive vine]

yeah but it just makes the reclaimer so redundant now

[mild pumice]

They didn't need to adjust the prices for supply or die for salvage materials

They were always intented to be salvaged and not traded

[mild pumice]

Not really it was 68k per 32scu when I was at Orison so still a good return for a full load

And for supply and die I took a full load to Ruin Station and salvaging in my Vulture using the CMs from my stash I can make 2mil/hr with the supply or die contract at least

[naive vine]

yeah but in comparison rn i can mine enough material to get me 1 mil in about 20 mins

[mild pumice]

Do that then whilst you can

It's only due to the inflated prices I'm guessing and that was only intended to stop the plebs standing at the terminals lol

[naive vine]

yeah i really dont think they actually thought about how most players play this game

players will always find the quickest way to make cash

[mild pumice]

Most players will do whatever is easiest that pays the most

Yeah exactly.

[naive vine]

like yeah mining or salvaging the stuff to then hand in for cash is rewarding but most people dont have that amount of time or cba spending that amount of time

[mild pumice]

I remember seeing fully geared players walking around picking up little green boxes because that was the prime paying loop lol

[pearl juniper]

they missed such a great opportunity to test a dynamic economy here. And in a way this was a preview of what a dynamic economy could look like, but they did it manually with a hotfix after like two days. But imagine if the supply had gone down and the price had gone up dynamically (and quickly) when people started buying massive amounts of a couple of things.

[lament wigeon]

I just tried to do two cargo hauling contracts, very simple, for a modest 140k total. I spent two hours and ended up with nothing to show for it. I can’t blame anyone for taking the path of least resistance when the intended paths are dead ends

[mild pumice]

Yesterday I tried the same loop above and lost everything due to a server crash so I feel your pain

[glad ivy]

I dunno mate those guys queuing up to stare at a screen on a screen didn't make it look easy

Never seen anything quite so painful honestly

[mild pumice]

I just don't think they anticipated what happened but for sure this kind of event would be perfect for a dynamic economy

[drowsy phoenix]

please send help
"Vehicle must remain stationary"

[pearl juniper]

yeah I really wonder if it was an oversight, or an intentional thing. Or if the guy who was supposed to change the price / supply forgot to commit his code before he went home for the day 😂

[mild pumice]

Once I've lined up I usually cut the engines with 'i'

[shell sorrel]

Are we betting that with the Golem coming into 4.1, that mining will be touched up on? Like pods in cargo, refinery orders straight to warehouse etc?

[drowsy phoenix]

didn't help at all

[mild pumice]

It can be bugged and transfer never starts, sadly no workaround for that. Hull C loop works about 15% of the time in my experience to varying degrees

[mild pumice]

The Golum yes I expect but other refactoring not likely at this stage, maybe once they implement the refining ships into the game

[shell sorrel]

hopefully the golem comes with the freight elevator fix for the ore bags

[weak tinsel]

if not for the fact you can exploit the phisical ship moding system to add the bags there would not be a problem with the bags

[shell sorrel]

maybe theyll fix the mole to prospector bug ahahaha

and piss off every miner

[weak tinsel]

idk its not that big of a advantage
i hope they do look into it and add some ability to upgrade them somehow
and i would love to see a ability to put filled bags in some sort of a carrier and ship them to refineries without the miner going there
like swapping them mid mining to keep mining while a different ship moves ore

[near swallow]

Swapping bags out while mining is intended, and partly what the Expanse is for. It's just not properly implemented yet, they're getting closer though with the collapsed bags that are now on the Mole. The other side of the coin is that refineries still need to be updated so you can send stuff direct to warehouse and refine stuff from bags. That also means the bags on freight elevators issue needs fixing.

The whole refining from bags not equipped on a ship issue will need some very different UI though. One where you can select one or more bags to refine as one job. (Having them on a ship made that simpler to do, you'd just select the ship and refine all the bags attached to it.)

There's also the bigger mining change they've talked about, that will affect where you can find stuff and how. But that might not be coming anytime soon, since that I guess was meant to go along with base building.

[weak tinsel]

the bags might just add to a total of materials like in the current UI
you dont see individual bags just a sum total of ore

[pearl juniper]

All of these mining changes (adding a bunch of new mineables for vehicles for example) are, I suspect, required BEFORE they implement crafting and base building. The fact that they are doing a rework on hand and vehicle mining, plus adding two new mining vehicles in 4.1, suggests to me that there is a focus back on mining and we may well see more changes to ship mining in 4.1.x

All in preparation for adding crafting

Just a guess though

[near swallow]

I don't mean those specific changes in 4.1. I mean the major rework that was mentioned in one of the videos, where instead of mining mixed rocks like now, you'd go out and hunt specific ores, and they would be in specific areas of the planets that would not be eligible for base building.

The 4.1 changes are needed for the other 4.1 content. (Wikelo's missions.)

[pearl juniper]

right, and that's what I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised if we see in 4.1.x. 4.0.2 and 4.1 both show a renewed focus on mining, if they keep the momentum on that I could see the wider mining rework happening soon-ish.

[vivid river]

i hope the patch after addresses salvage

[pearl juniper]

think about it, they run an event or two that gets a whole bunch of people interested in mining, and then they have a bunch of people ready to test a new mining system when it drops.

but maybe I'm being too logical and they will just bounce around from feature to feature with no momentum.

[near swallow]

The 4.0.2 event I think was made to test out resource gathering missions.

Because they are doing the mission rework and just got a new mission scripting system.

[pearl juniper]

a lot of what they talked about in the more stable universe talk was about assigning people to tasks and letting them cook until it's done, rather than bouncing around.

[pearl juniper]

Supply or Die is a very minor tweak on the last mission of Save Stanton. It's improved (the elevators giving change, for example), but it's nothing fundamentally new other than it happing in a server meshed environment

to be clear though, I have no idea what's coming. Merely speculating based on what we have right now and what we know is coming in 4.1. But also don't forget that 4.1 brings a new mining ship, not just a rework of hand and vehicle mining.

[shell sorrel]

what changes exactly

[mild pumice]

The changes mostly relate to ground vehicle mining and the laser platforms. There should be info in the PTU patch notes but we await full details

[shell sorrel]

no no the future changes for ship mining

[mild pumice]

Oh I've not heard anything about that.

[near swallow]

It was talked about in a video where they were talking about how the land claims would work for base building

They mentioned that areas of the planet would be set aside for things like mining, and that how you look for stuff to mine would change. If you wanted iron, you'd go and just mine iron. And different ores would be in different spots.

[shell sorrel]

Are there changes to ship mining in particular?

like how we scan for rocks etc

[near swallow]

It is in this video: https://youtu.be/JR8CtbQXLw8?si=rLqM63D77-ippE2n

[shell sorrel]

ive watched that many many times

just asking about mining pre 1.0

[near swallow]

Mining will be changing because they'll be adding "quality" to ores and such for crafting purposes

It'll apparently mean no more mixed ore rocks

[shell sorrel]

oh really

[shell sorrel]

that sounds like a 1.0 thing

[pearl juniper]

everything is a 1.0 thing until it's not. Everything has to come before 1.0 so that it can be tested before 1.0 releases.

[vivid river]

i think they should keep the mixed ore rocks

[shell sorrel]

i think so too, more realistic hahah

[vivid river]

mm hmm

[shell sorrel]

just a matter of how far before 1.0 i guess

[near swallow]

It was part of base building/crafting, which people thought might be coming this year, before the shift to Content/QoL happened.

[vivid river]

the few times i mined i actually like that

[pearl juniper]

in theory we will play "1.0" for many months before 1.0 actually releases while the fix bugs

[shell sorrel]

i have mined quite a lot, the only tedious thing i find is the scanning for rocks and looking for certain signatures

[near swallow]

Eventually there should be 1.0 Alpha, then Beta, then release.

[shell sorrel]

hoping there would be a new UI or change to improve

[near swallow]

But 1.0 Alpha I think is still years away

[vivid river]

i give it 7 more years

[shell sorrel]

yeah years, so im mostly focused on content or changes that can come within a year hahahha

specifically to mining

[near swallow]

Also mentioned in the video I linked above, was that salvage may change a bit with that too

[vivid river]

all i want rn from salvage is my stanton areas no longer blocking my handhelds from working (trespass mechanic is incorrectly activating) and the reclaimers salvage processing elevator door height clearance increased by like 3-7in
everything else would be a bonus

i'd accept a new large salvage ship in place of reclaimer change

[near swallow]

Reclaimer needs a major rework. No clue when it'll get one. But the change talked about in that video is in what you'd get while salvaging. The idea is that when you salvage a ship, you would get some of the components that would be used (in the crafting system) to make that ship.

[vivid river]

my best guess for recl rework is after the AI blades are like 50% done/implemented/fixed

[near swallow]

So, instead of just selling RMC/CM, you'd get materials you could use towards making your own ships. If you have the facilities.

[sonic fiber]

Don't get excited. Working elevators aren't planned till 1.1

[mild pumice]

Great way to lift our sprits

[vivid river]

are you talking bout the cargo elevators at the stations?

[dapper raft]

I'm new...anyway to set waypoints or drop a pin to mark a location you'd like to return to in SC. Seems like a basic function.

[vivid river]

no

[weak tinsel]

die on that spot or get a friend to be a marker sadly are the only options

[dapper raft]

Thank you for the response...seems like a simple and useful feature...wonder why it is not in the game.

[acoustic knoll]

can i load Multiple refining orders at once to my Hauling ship ? or only 1 need to unload to hanger and then claim the next refinign order i did it once 3 orders had enough room but the whole ship stayed empty 😦

[weak tinsel]

many reasons on why its bad
but while it sounds cool it also defeats some game mechanics
but i do kinda agree some way of having markers would be nice

[weak tinsel]

store and retrive again WHILE you are in the hangar looking as it goes

it might appear

[acoustic knoll]

ah kay so multplie claiming should normaly be possible

thx

[dim tinsel]

im trying to put my refined ore into a taurus but when i select that as the storage option it puts all my orders on the taurus and it just doesnt fit

what do i do?

how can i choose for only 1 or 2 of the orders to go into it

or did i just waste all my time mining and renting for nothing

[acoustic knoll]

someone her who would refuel me in stanton on a eu server ? ran aut of quantum due to bug...

[sonic fiber]

Elevators in general

[pearl juniper]

It should only do them one at a time, whichever you click on

[sonic fiber]

Because we need sand worms... 😉

[plush sandal]

Does volatile cargo stop decaying once your ship is stored or does it keep ticking till I sell or refine it?

Also do I lose parts of it with decay or is it literally just a count down to a boom

[vivid river]

boom i belive

[vivid river]

never really had in issue with the reclaimers main elevator aside from the doors not being large enough

[mellow arrow]

Does anyone have this issue (solo mining in Mole) where you place a mining module on rock, I am using the Sabir, and then you're unable to climb back up the Mole's ladder? Happens every time, even happened to a friend.
Example:
https://youtu.be/4BB5tmB_nPY

[wraith talon]

Ah, I did exactly that yesterday and could not climb a ladder. Interesting

[mellow arrow]

Yeah, it's bizarre. If I remove the Sabir, can go right back up that ladder no problem.
The one in that video I could not remove but, it did remove me 😆

[obsidian pine]

what m ining lasers should i get for a mole?

[mellow arrow]

I've been mining with a friend and and I suck at it but he has good luck. We are using this setup:

Impact II = Turret #1 is Middle

Helix II = Turret #2 is left (port) (big rocks)

Hofstede S2 = Turret #3 is the right (starboard)

Rieger-C3, Surge, Stampede for Passive and Active models. And the occasional **Sabir **placed on rock, although... that makes it impossible, for me, to get up my ladder 🤷‍♂️

You can use this site for all your mining needs.
https://regolith.rocks/

[pearl juniper]

Depends how big of rocks you are trying to break

[obsidian pine]

thx this stuff is so complicated and annoying that everything isnt sold in one place but i think im figuring it out

[mellow arrow]

Yeah, mining is rather complex. I get it. Once I get the rest of the ice I need for missions, my Mole is heading to retirement. Not my cup of tea 🤷‍♂️

[regal tide]

Every time I put a Vehicle in my ship and store it, it gets Destroyed has that been fixed in 4.1 and also every time I leave my hanger while I have my ship still on the hanger pad it gets auto stored has that stopped also?

[inland spire]

has it ever happened to anyone else to fill up the vulture (hold full + 13 SCU in depot), then when you arrive back in port your depot is suddenly empty?

(hold thankfully still full)

I even ran down to the hold to double-check that I'm indeed full when I filled up the depot

no?

[ornate halo]

Pull and holster a gun

[mellow arrow]

Thanks. I tried that, and tractor gun, and med pen, and drink... still, could not get up ladder 😢
Da fuk the sabir module and a ladder in my ship have to do with each other, no idea. But, I can see the bug of the "game" thinking something is still in my hands.
I will try again, IF I go mining again 😆 o7o7

[vivid river]

its a change shard issue, basically just dont have anything in the buffer

if you can afford it id suggest the polaris + fortune combo that way you can travel anywhere you really want , have a great amount of cargo space and not worry bout a shard glitch clearing your buffer

i would have suggested the reclaimer but >.> it needs its rework first before i can actually recommend it again

[regal tide]

Did they get rid of Delivery missions with the handheld boxes?

[leaden monolith]

For now. Missions are getting a rework.

[near swallow]

Courier missions, in Pyro, will be available in 4.1 I think. Not sure about Stanton side.

[open plaza]

What refinery method is best?

[vivid obsidian]

Ferron exchange for speed (delivering same day) dinyx for maximum profitability, just expect a LOT more wait time this way. An entirely full mole with no inert took me more than 56 hours iirc. Would have to double check times on my next ice run.

[inland spire]

how would I change shard in the middle of a game? I didn't log out or anything

also how do I "don't have anything in the buffer", I literaly just finished scavenging and flew straight into port to unload

[mild pumice]

this is a bug similar to the QT fuel issue where ship state does not persist between server changes within the shard, just flying from a moon to planet you can switch servers twice

[inland spire]

yeah I'm not paying $1000 of real money just so I can occasionally not lose 130k of monopoly money due to a bug

also I don't think the QT thing is a shard issue, it does happen even without moving at all — as soon as I fuel up I can already see the discrepancy between the various gauges even without moving anywhere

[mild pumice]

it's a known bug and there is a highly contributed IC on the issue. What you see is a UI bug, once entering QT you will see the tank show full again, however it can still revert to previous values when you traverse between servers on the shard.

Storing and retrieving your ship after refueling is a fairly safe workaround.

[mild pumice]

lol 98scu on the RAFT, 96 on grid, 2scu stashed in the airlock 😄

[hollow sedge]

Love a good airlock hack!

Honestly I think they should refactor the airlock into an ATLS storage module

[mild pumice]

Yeah or a dedicated rack elsewhere. 100% agree

[craggy tapir]

The Raft should be modular tbh

Cargo rack module
Refuelling module

[mild pumice]

Another option could be to have the ATLS pack into an 8scu box shape for stowage. This could also provide stowage and retrieval via a freight elevator

[craggy tapir]

Ship Boxes

[inland spire]

is prospector mining reasonably profitable? how does it compare profit-wise with e.g. panel salvaging with a vulture?

[tall karma]

It's exceptionally profitable in the current patch because CIG massively boosted the value of easily minable commodities for the event. Once this event end salvage will probably be easier / bigger profit

Ice, Tin, Copper and Conundrum were mundane before the event and usually ignored, but you can easily make millions off these now, and you can also get like 90scu of storage on a prospector using the argo bag bug.

[rain tinsel]

Also 192 scu for the mole. I think this event was a test of mining contracts also, would be nice to see those added

[vivid river]

Only if they revert their changes to the salvage missions

[tall karma]

Nah, you can just salvage panels. Also reclaimer CM farming with the boosted CM sales prices is very profitable, incredibly easy, and makes use of the unverified contracts

[rain tinsel]

From what I understand the ATLS Geo is not a murder hobo but the base ATLS still has that feature in the PTU. I hope 1.1 stays in PTU until that is addressed

[vivid river]

Im not salvaging the panels -_- , I salvage cause I enjoyed munching the different types of ships
With the downgrade in sizes per contract I don't get the other ships anymore

It was fun munchin the tarus, hammerhead, reclaimer etc

I don't even see the Hercules anymore either

[tall karma]

You can still get those with the unverified missions in Stanton and also on the salvage groups in pyro

[vivid river]

I've been looking for em, after one of the SoD patches, I stopped seeing them

[tall karma]

You have to rank up to get them to show up

[rain tinsel]

Also various bunker and ehrt vhrt contracts, see a mix of c2,m2 and just about everything else

[tall karma]

Do a 1k, 5k, 20k verified salvage mission and then you'll get the bigger unverified. Usually connie, starfarer or hammerhead

Then there's also the new mission in pyro with a group of ships, but can be taken by anyone so PvP can happen

[rain tinsel]

I’ve noticed if your lucky you can clean up one of those sights with a reclaimer

[vivid river]

Im already at 50k patchkid
Unless there is new higher tiers im not seeing them

[tall karma]

Are you in crusader near one of the planets (preferably Yela)? Not sure they show up elsewhere

[vivid river]

unless cig changed something, salvo missions can (should to my experience) be obtained anywhere in its respective system, besides that, ive been doing paid risky salvo as the contracts ship size has been downgraded all but forcing me to stay near grim hex for anything worthwhile. and the ones in pyro (as far as ive received) are just meager s1 or s2 ships.

nothing against you patch, im just peeved that CIG nerfed salvo like this for SoD instead of lowering the demand or payout at the terminals, this would have pushed people to do the SoD missions more instead of all but kill the trade in my eyes

but this was probably planned for the next patch for mining as they want people to test that out more next

also those panels should also be scrape-able, it makes little sense to only scrap it for rmc and not eat it for both

[tall karma]

It's been demonstrated multiple times that CIG is not skilled at balance changes.

[knotty dove]

well CIG domenstrated repetedly that they dont see how players behave and that they would pick easiest was to get rich fast escaped their minds

[regal tide]

Can someone explain to me how I'm supposed to get the boxes out of the reclaimer seems a bit ridiculous I can't even get them through this back Hatch is there a way to destroy that so there's just a drop hole

[knotty dove]

simple unhelpfull explaination: Reclaimer wasnt designed for current salvage and cargo elevators

[mild pumice]

The way I do it is 16scu boxes two at a time in the cargo lift, you have to pull them through sideways due to the door frame having notches

[regal tide]

Thanks

[mild pumice]

It's a pain but it's faster than printing lots of small boxes. If just selling you can use the auto unload.

[tall karma]

You can actually get 4-5 16scu boxes in the elevator. It will stack 2 on top

I have had success doing an auto-unload sale of contents as long as everything is on grid and the same type (RMC vs CM). Don't mix and match to auto-unload

[mild pumice]

@tall karma I didn't think about going 2 high, nice I'll try that next time.

[solar estuary]

hoping to get back into salvo for 4.1 with the reclaimer remote turret at least... although the pip issue at times does bother me. First time I use the ship seems fine, but after that it always seems borked

[lament wadi]

Do you know what's the signal for tin? An find it online

[solar estuary]

as for the number? I don't think so since it all depends on the type of asteroid and rock now. I usually just scan for the name and go by that

just gotta be in Pyro for Tin

[lament wadi]

I'm in pyro

I thought it goes by number cuz 1660 always work for ice and everyone suggests thay

I'm new zo idk much about radars and all but in asteroid it's working I think

[lament wadi]

What does the name tell you?

[solar estuary]

well we only only certain percentages of rocks and asteroids spawn certain materials, so if you know lets say an Asteroid-M spawns copper, and an Asteroid-Q doesn't then you know you can avoid those and go for the others

although I just check everything I find and if I see what I want, then I mine

[lament wadi]

Ohhh I understand You know something about tin?

[spare cloud]

Check regolith.rocks

Has all the info you're looking for

[solar estuary]

is what I would say, yeah regolith.rocks. I haven't done any tin hunting so far, mostly the copper and coruntum since been staying in Stanton this patch

[lament wadi]

Does it say that too? Dang this site is really good

Thanks for the info yall🙏🙏🙏

[solar estuary]

only active mining site in the verse so far now I think?

or at least the most updated

[spare cloud]

I know nothing else of that quality

[solar estuary]

only thing about the site I don't like is the mining calculator for your ship lasers, as they still say Reiger is a power loss instead of an increase

[inland spire]

when scraping, does it matter where on the distance gauge the thing I'm scraping is? do I just need to get it anywhere in the yellow, or should I aim for the middle of the gauge, or as close as possible?

[weak tinsel]

isnt power to mass just
power/0.2 ?

[vivid river]

easiest way? no bigger than size 4scu boxes, im going to assume you already have 16scu boxes made however and the best one can say is through the main elevator, you uhh just need to be just about picture perfect to getthe 16scu onto the elevator

i have heard tho that having them lose (not attached to the grid) and blowing the ship up works though that is a method i will not try myself

[vestal ravine]

With the Reclaimer I get pretty close just experiment with your distances.

[spare cloud]

Wdym ? Rieger specifically or all Riegers (-C2, -C3) ?

Nvm, I see what you mean

[vivid river]

You stare at the recl claw long enough you can gage roughly how far it can extend when your in the pilots seat when looking in 3rd person from the side

[spare cloud]

Weird, it didn't do that a few days ago.

But it's wrong anyway, as it adds percentages instead of multiplying them.
So your head + Rieger C3 + Rieger C3 shows 150% total when it should be 156%.
Because it's not 100+50% but 100+25%=125+25%=156.

2xRieger-C3 + Surge should be 234% and not 200%

It does this very well for resistance for example, so I don't quite get why it's wrong with power, but anyway, still the best mining tool there is, and it's only a minor inconvenience anyway

[lucid wave]

Looking for 2-3 people to help with reclaimer salvaging

[ornate halo]

I know hes working some bug fixes on the calculator. Next release we'll see if this is working- if not, I'll file a report

[spare cloud]

Try #looking-for-session instead. Here is a discussion channel 👍

[vivid obsidian]

Does anyone know how to compile cargo boxes? I remember something about being able to buy different size boxes at the cargo thing on old updates so you could consolidate small boxes into bigger ones. Is there any way to do something like that still? Asking because if not this 26m tin/ice priority gonna suck otherwise x.x

[vivid river]

Cargo center at space stations, store all is what your looking for

#industrial-professions message

[vivid obsidian]

Hm...allright. i went to a cargo center yesterday and couldn't find anything besides the self storage boxes.

[vivid river]

Follow those instructions and you should be set

[vivid obsidian]

Gotcha!

[vivid river]

Its a smidge tedious but it does work

[vivid obsidian]

Are there still 24 and 32 scu boxes?

[inland spire]

second time in a row my vulture loses contents of its depot on the way back to port 😔

I think I'll just stop filling the depot before I head back, just fill the hold and return with that

waste less time

[vivid river]

No only up to 8scu as far as I have found

[vivid river]

Till they fix the shard change issue, yea that's your best bet

[solar estuary]

yeah, mostly just do the head math with the Redmonster sheets for the parts, although been coming up with ideas for the Golem to use, as still got the power of a helix but that Resistance addition is gonna hurt it, and only gadgets and surges really handle resistance now

[spare cloud]

Eh, no need for exact math, as you just go with whatever bigger number you get anyway, but that'd be a nice thing to get correct anyway. This site is so close to perfection

[solar estuary]

agreed there

been getting back into mining now since finding it and the whole SoD, along with the mining changes coming up

[languid tendon]

what should i be using for a 57k 224 SCU rock with 24%resistance?

[vivid river]

2 people?

[languid tendon]

bc with a Helix 2, surge, rieger c3, stampede with a sabir, i cant break

[mild pumice]

A nuke

[languid tendon]

solo

[solar estuary]

a mole with all lasers loaded with that mass.

usually if solo you looking for around 30k at least is the limit, sometimes 35k

but once you get in a mole and find those big rocks, really need more people on it

why I still recommend using the prospector if solo for now, as well as mole liking to move around if you got wind..

[languid tendon]

i like the mole for the exploited capacity

i havnt stacked riegers on the lasers yet, does this work?

like 2 riegers and a surge?

[solar estuary]

yeah but it won't be more powerful than using rieger with surge and stampede

[languid tendon]

igy

[solar estuary]

if you can't get the green to show

if anyone here likes to salvage at bunkers with other ships left over.. how do you guys usually deal with the shields up issue? Everytime I tried turning them off the turrets think I am stealing the ship and just blow it up

[vivid river]

shoot the ship?

or tow it out of there

[solar estuary]

was debating on the shooting, but figured they would dislike that even more xD

[vivid river]

weird that the turrest will just blow up the ship

i mean your gettin killed eithr way so why not try it

[solar estuary]

I mean I usually survive the boom xD as I notice and race off the ship

[vivid obsidian]

Have they fixed the glitched capacity? Because I used every trick I've seen on each video and none seem to work...don't get me wrong. I don't MIND sticking with the 96 stock capacity. Just wanna see if I can bust out a dorky stupid large run or a few before 4.1