industrial-professions

[sharp swift]

Ty, I should have enough to do 14 smalls now

no time efficiency here lol

[spare cloud]

So only 84 SCU of tin/ice, or 196 Cu/Corundum

[sharp swift]

Cu/Cor for me, wasn't gonna mess with Pyro shenanigans when there was a time limit involved, I'll prob trek over and dip my toes in the lucrative waters later

[open plaza]

Do I rent the mole or the prospector to mine corundum/copper for the priority mission

Can the Mole mine bigger rocks then the Prospector?

[pearl juniper]

Yes, and hauls a lot more. A bit tedious to use solo, but doable

prospector one can argue is more fun solo

[crisp bobcat]

If you just load a bunch of the materials into the station storage for the pyro missons, can I brin git back up to count for credit?

[peak snow]

Where's the best place to mine Copper? i've just bought meself a Prospector to catch up with my Corundum stockpile

[honest grove]

On the vulture loadout screen, if i want to swap out so I have two abrades when I start up the salvage mode, what slots do they go it? I feel like i used to know, but it didn’t seem right this last time i did it.

[near swallow]

Default is the two Cinches, so put the Abrades in those slots. AKA not the tractor beam slot for one, swap the Cinch/Abrade for the other.

[regal tide]

Do all mining modules stack?

[sharp swift]

Yes, with some DR in some situations AFAIK

[chrome light]

Hey you lovely citizens.
Have not done mining since before the physical boxes and elevators.
I did not see an option for releasing the job to inventory, so it looks like this is delivered straight to ship only.
Im broke AF still and do not own a cargo ship yet, last time I mined I already had a C2.
What happens to my SCU that doesnt fit on my current ship? lost? other?

[hoary hinge]

Refinery has not been updated for physicalised cargo, it delivers into ships, and then if you want it stored at the station you can pull it out of the ship

Seems to be a current bug where you should go retrieve/check cargo/store in between delivering refinery orders

[chrome light]

well i hope not, cause i have not done that.
what happens if I have 40scu refined in an order, but 32 scu ship?

[glass hedge]

does anyone know if the hull-C auto unloading works? (not when doing cargo missions just doing regular trading)

[chrome light]

as far as I know, yes, noticed it being done on some vids, but not tried myself

[glass hedge]

damn

[glass hedge]

i tried it about a week ago and it wasnt working do you know how old your vids were and on what update?

[chrome light]

no, it was recent though.
he had some tips about getting it to work, cause it is still picky.
make sure you are straight and square, full stop, and there was some other bug to be aware of that can cause issues with the ATC.
but i dont have a hull so i wasnt paying full attention.
but it was 4.0 i believe

[ivory sierra]

in your alls opinion whats the best place to do cargo hauling for

[glass hedge]

HULL-C Works

[teal otter]

Where is the refinery in pyro?

and is there any place to mine ice in pyro?

[glass hedge]

i usually mine in stanton

does anyone have a hullc and know if there is auto loading on land or is it just in space stations

[hoary hinge]

I am having a really bad time with mining this patch

just testing, trying to figure out why I'm having mining issues.
Fresh claimed prospector
First rock I find has tungsten in it
Suck up 3 fragments, all around 4SCU
Cargo still showing 0/32SCU
wtf is going on
Helix 1 with Rieger-C3 and XTR-XL

[earnest halo]

this is the best rock ive ever seen..

[ripe grail]

Can you rent the hull C yet or no? I've been waiting on em to allow rental

[craggy tapir]

Nope

[flint forge]

i havent seen any of the big ships as rentals

[craggy tapir]

caterpillar was once rental early 3.24

[flint forge]

it no longer is now, i just bought myself a C2, hoped there will be a RSI big hauler soon

[craggy tapir]

got both caterpillar and c2 nowadays

[livid root]

hi guys, i just upgraded from a prospector to a mole and plan to solo mind, any recommendations on what modules to install on the mining lazers, wanted something to help break the bigger rocks solo

[craggy tapir]

Helix on main head

if you are solo thats all you need

[fiery cosmos]

I run Helix on Main w/ Riegers for max power. Hoffs on the support lasers for smaller breaks w/ Focus' on one for max Optimal Zone and FLTRs on the other for minimal Inert on messy breaks. Carry Surges/Stampedes Modules and Waveshift, Boremax, Sabir Gadgets. Obviously you don't need all that but just to give you an idea. You're gonna need to trial and error what you're most comfortable with.

[spare cloud]

Far from that.
It's way too powerful for many rocks, you need something weaker like a Hofstede

[craggy tapir]

"can handle the heat my friend?"

[spare cloud]

My loadout basically.
Just running with a Surge on the Helix instead of full Rieger

[fiery cosmos]

This exactly. There's multiple ways to get the job done for sure.

All this "Solo Mole'ing" imagine the size of the rocks we could break if we all just ran a fully manned Mole. Things I think about while solo mole'ing

[spare cloud]

Imagine all the rocks I could break if CIG just released Arrastra for me to solo

Omw to crack every rock of the Aaron halo

[orchid void]

Ahhhhh arrastra I require it

[rough karma]

when selling Vulture salvage, whats the easiest to find admin office to sell?

[fiery cosmos]

Depends where you're salvaging 🤷🏻‍♂️

[knotty mountain]

Prospector rear hatch, what´s it for?

[rough karma]

im flexible if it means less faff planet side

[vestal ravine]

https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Recycled Material Composite You can use this site to find the buying spots. I sell mine at the Orison TDD.

[vestal ravine]

I looked at the Farrister review of the ship and it seems to be a crude drop zone to store any crates in the level below. However if you open the ports for the ship you can drop crates down the rear chute onto the floor below or into space. Use VTOL briefly if the crates get lodged/stuck.

[knotty mountain]

Prospector

[rough karma]

much appreciated ty o7

[vestal ravine]

https://youtu.be/PuA_P39130M?si=eJp1Qbi24trW_G8_ It is some sort of control box/panel exact use unknown.

Hot tip: Elguapoe found a way to get 144 scu of ore space via an ore bag trick.

[livid root]

@fiery cosmos ty, trying out the build now and hope i set it up right,

[cedar ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y0N-P2AOKc - PTU 4.1 Mining changes for the ROC - Prospector like mining heads and gadgets and a buff in gem storage to over a scu... Also new ROC mineables as well...

[wise halo]

Is it viable to mine solo in the Mole? I rarely play with people but enjoy mining in the prospector and wan to crack those fat boi rocks

[heavy thunder]

I'm in the same boat. Rented a prospector. Couldn't modify it, but i still filled up the bags surprisingly fast. Not sure what'd be more frustrating, frequent double return trips or seat hopping...

[spare cloud]

It's more rewarding than Prospector mining, but it's up to you, if you can stand the running around the ship continuously or not

[wise halo]

just fyi you can indeed upgrade the laser and modules, and with some finessing of the cargo elevators you can upgrade the bags for a total storage of 48 SCU

[wise halo]

Might need to watch a video or something and see just how much chair swapping is required lol. I don't think it would bother me much but it also might just be unsustainable once Engineering comes around

[spare cloud]

Engineering likely won't be a concern if you're not engaging in fights and constantly damaging your components by bad rock cracking or overheating

[weak tinsel]

not much
if you are mining on a windy planet you must land or you drift away for some fucking reason
so finding a landing spot that wont block turret movement is a ting to do not hard tho

i find the seat swapping not that bad and you do it once per rock you mine
mining mode in pilot seat will display the same info as if in a turret, you just dont get to mine

[limpid zephyr]

is there better spots than others to find tin and ice in pyro?

[pearl juniper]

https://regolith.rocks/survey/ores

[hollow sedge]

Fellow RAFT owners/enthusiasts; what do you use the ship for these days?

A lot of truckers have bigger ships in their fleet, but does the RAFT still have a place for a specific niche or type of hauling that you prefer to use it for?

[cedar ledge]

Not watched the video but this might come in handy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIR1gWVY2qI

[leaden monolith]

I use mine quite a bit actually. With all the bugs these last couple of patches I just didn't want to risk losing a C2 load of cargo.

I looked at all stations including L1 & L2. I then figured out station to station and multiple station runs. Then I did the run(s) just buying a single full load at each station. Once I was happy I would buy between 2-5 full loads at each station and just run between them dropping off and picking up cargo. On the final run I would drop off pick up and then go to sell.

With the rear of the Raft pointing at the freight elevator loadiing and unloading is quick and easy. Even if you drop off, sell then buy, then retrieve the Raft loading is still relatively quick and easy.

[glad ivy]

Hello friend, I think it has a use case when you want to run commodities but don't want to wait 10+ minutes for an autoload. You can get 50k per stop on a few routes across Pyro and Stanton, and if you buy bulk the first time you hit each stop and only sell up the last time you hit each stop you'll find it very quick to move 3x32 station to station.

Your only limiter is your quantum drive

[hollow sedge]

That is pretty much my approach as well, lots of small runs but chaining things together consecutively. I tend to use it for commodity trades rather than hauling contracts. It's good to hear people still have a use for it!

I'm probably the most risk averse I've ever been, I can't see myself owning a C2 again.

[glad ivy]

I see @leaden monolith is a man of taste as well

[hollow sedge]

The C1 can haul things quicker, but the RAFT has the benefit of exterior loading and about 10k more hull HP which isn't to be overlooked

[leaden monolith]

Yeah sorry @hollow sedge I was talking trading not hauling. My only gripe with the Raft is the handling. Beached whales on Valium move better than a Raft.

[leaden monolith]

I swapped out my QD for the Hemera. Decent speed and range and one of, if not the, best cooldowns.

[leaden monolith]

I use the C1 for small hauling contracts.

[limpid zephyr]

isn't refined goods supposed to be physicalised? I can't see it on my ship after i pressed collect on it

[weak tinsel]

it bugged and is now voided

welcome to the game
i have lost around 100SCU this far and have not successfully collected one order since the event started

[limpid zephyr]

so i just lost all my shit then?

so if it didn't bug. Then i would be able to see it on the cargo grid, right?

[weak tinsel]

yes

and then still it could be bugged and useless when it can not be tractor beamed

[limpid zephyr]

damn

but thanks for telling me

was loosing my mind over it

[weak tinsel]

a precaution i heard works is

1. Claim the ship to the station
2. Retrieve while in you hangar looking as it goes up
3. wait a second or two
4. store and wait till it stores looking there
5. try to take out the order

[limpid zephyr]

yeah okay

thx 🙂

[leaden monolith]

If your order isn't visible try storing and retrieving. If that doesn't work try server hopping and repeating. If that doesn't work you're SoL

[orchid void]

did we lose refinery jobs after the maintenance?

[weak tinsel]

no?

i had mine

[weak tinsel]

@vivid obsidian replied to my tip on how to avoid that

[orchid void]

ye I was just wondering

I have mine too checked now

[weak tinsel]

and you are the 5th today that i say this to and its now funny

[glad ivy]

I love the way its terrible handling. Taught me a lot about flying!

[orchid void]

Do we know if and when they’ll implement refinery transfer to warehouse instead of ship?

[weak tinsel]

not that i have ever heard they plan on any time soon

[orchid void]

I swear I remember it was possible to store it in a previous patch

I must be wrong…

I just did everything that’s suggested, claim my c2, spawn my c2 store it and wait till the whole animation is done, exit my hangar collect my refined materials and retrieve the c2

And it clipped… and I lost all my refinery jobs….

[mild pumice]

You should retrieve your ship from the ASOP in the hangar it's more reliable than using the public ASOP. They haven't updated refinery orders to go to the warehouse but this event shows they badly need to

[regal tide]

So engineer got pushed back until next year? makes sense since all ships would need to be gold standard what ever that means to work i'm guessing.

[heavy thunder]

ooph think I just screwed myself out of my refinery order from yesterdays run... Claimed my order from the refinery and ran back to the hangar to see empty platform raising the final bit... i guess I left too quick after sending the Zeus down. Bad habit

[orchid void]

Ye but how do I get into a large hangar if I have no spawnable ships other than my c2? ;-;

[mild pumice]

If you already retrieved and stored your C2 then you should already have a Large Hangar assigned

You said you claimed, called, stored and then collected your materials therfore you should already have a hangar

[regal tide]

what stations sell Tin?

[mild pumice]

#market-street

[quick narwhal]

Sorry

Wasn't paying attention lol

[mild pumice]

Only Magnus gateway

[regal tide]

Anyone have 34 SCu of Tin I can buy?

[hoary hinge]

#market-street
#1019852856460853258

[glass hedge]

i lost so much

[vestal ravine]

My player lost his gravity on the ship. I float right through it.

[past frost]

For my Polaris Mains, how are you doing cargo missions that you have to go to docking ports for? I have a first level cargo mission and am wondering if it's even possible with my Polaris

[vivid river]

Pyro (minus Stanton gateway) and Grim hex and any planet side landing for stanton

There's no auto loading

So docking for cargo is a no-go

Good luck

Id just use a C2 anyways

That or a Zues CL

[hoary hinge]

I don't believe the smaller stations like Rod's, Gaslight, Patch etc have XL hangars; just Ruin/Checkmate/Orbituary

[dusk wasp]

what mods do i need on a mole to be able to break all the rocks

[sharp swift]

This is what I use. If you want to be able to solo the largest rocks, I'd swap out the Impact for another Helix 2 and throw on all the active modules that really increase power and such. Don't forget to attach mining gadgets as well.

[dusk wasp]

awesome thanks, what mining head do i need?

[sharp swift]

The red is the heads, the orange are the mods

Helix = power for big rocks
Hofsede = balance for mid to small rocks

[dusk wasp]

oooh i see you you are changing all 3 of the moles lasers so you can manage everything

[sharp swift]

Yeah. The Impact II is what I use for collection/cleanup since the triple FLTR-XL mods significantly reduces the amount of inert material that you get

[vivid river]

Fair enough, only knew bout the main 3 tbh

[dusk wasp]

ok so like your front laser is the helix, and then you have the impact and hofstede on the left and right and just use which ever suits it most?

[sharp swift]

Front = Impact for collection. Left/Right are Helix/Hofstede. I just angle the Mole to the Helix side if it is a big break

[dusk wasp]

ok so the left and right break the rock then you use the front one to collect

that sounds like alot of switching seats lol

[hoary hinge]

you could always grab two buddies

[sharp swift]

It's a lot of switching no matter what you do. I could see Helix in the front so that you walk less if you put yourself as a bad range and have to reposition

But eventually you get good enough at eyeballing it and I like to go from helix to hofstede quickly, with the impact for collection 'en route' to the pilot seat

[dusk wasp]

thanks alot

[sharp swift]

np

[dusk wasp]

was hoping i didnt have to buy the mole cuz its like 10mil but i need the good heads and moduales to break the mega rocks so it will be worth it

[sharp swift]

You can crack rocks up to 25-30k depending on resistances without any active modules or gadgets, and that has been plenty powerful for me

[dusk wasp]

i should have a few hundred corundum and copper refining by the end of the night

cuz a min ago i found two huge corundum rocks, they were like 80scu

[sharp swift]

Yeah I feel ya, the jump in power from Prospector to Mole is big and feels like a good use of time, since you don't have to hunt for smaller rocks all the time

[dusk wasp]

yeah not being able to break most rocks in the prospector is so fucking annoying

especially cuz all the good rocks you find with the stuff your looking for, you cant break

[sharp swift]

last tip before I go to bed -- rocks under 10SCU are scoopable

[dusk wasp]

ty

omw to buy a mole and all the stuf now

[sharp swift]

Enjoy!

[ripe grail]

I can get big rocks with prospector, I use.surge 1 and stampede 1, with Helix 1 head and a sabir, now super big rocks I can't but I'm able to get em

[dusk wasp]

yeah, you have like no storage space so you cant even get much anyway

[ripe grail]

my bags are upgraded

oh and fyi, its now possible to put 80 space on the prospector and 144 on the mole!

[quick narwhal]

With which bags?

[dusk wasp]

how do i break this rock?

[hoary hinge]

multiple lasers

[dusk wasp]

so i cant do anything about it solo then

that sucks

[hoary hinge]

This is not a single player game, it would be boring if there were no rocks big enough to make the mole's 3 lasers actually necessary

[simple cape]

It might not be a single player game, but I find it really hard to find a clan/corp/org whatever it is who still does things like mine at my time of night.
So I just go out solo all the time.

[quick narwhal]

So how tf do you get the cargo bags out of freight elevator

[dusky obsidian]

the ore bags?

[quick narwhal]

Yes to change them out for the bigger bags. They spawn in freight elevator in the grounf

[dusky obsidian]

yeah its awful, the solution i've read is you fill the elevator with cargo, it's like 56 1 scu boxes to fill the lowest level of the elevator so when you bring the bags up they'll still be clipped but they'll more likely bounce out and you can get them

otherwise i try to find abandoned moles and steal their bags

[quick narwhal]

Rip

[hollow sedge]

Is Cellin surface still one of the best locations to mine with a rental prospector, or are there any orbital locations with decent A/B tier ores?

[quick narwhal]

So is the mole worth getting? I would still be soloing

Mixed reviews online

[orchid void]

Yep you’re right should have thought of that

[ripe grail]

Grab 1 scu box of anything, and then the bags, you'll need an Argo atlas for this, but grab the box and place it in the middle of the elevator, grab the bag with the atlas and drag it over to the box and it shpuld give the option to place it above yhe elevator floor and boom grab it again and place it on ship

[near swallow]

Mole is quite possible to solo now, but you'll have to do seat swapping which can get annoying at times. I feel it is worth it, especially since I can have 3 different laser setups, but not everyone agrees.

[quick narwhal]

Trying to figure out to trade in prospector for mole

[late sinew]

how often do commodity terminals refresh?

[dusk wasp]

ok im fucking annoyed rn, this is the second time i stored my mole at a station and when retrieving it i have no inv space??? first time i put stuff in the refinery and then i had no inv so i had to retrieve it again, then this time i landed at a station without a refinery just to refuel in pyro so i could then jump to a refinery station to dump my stuff then it fucking disappeared, mole full of tin and gold and all my cargo just gone, wtf???

[mild pumice]

yeah it's like the QT fuel bug the same for the mining & salvage hopper the state isn't persisting between server changes within the shard, it's hella annoying I lost soooo much Salvage

[hollow sedge]

so what is the deal with refinery orders right now, is there some secret sauce required to transfer the order from the refinery to your ship without losing the order? seen a lot of comments about it so I'm unclear, thanks!

[craggy tapir]

people recommend manually storing your ship
and many just store and leave and bugging it
wait til the ship is stored

[sharp swift]

For that, I believe you have to babysit the ship (not leave the hangar) until it goes down, lights stop flashing, and the marker is gone

[sharp swift]

Here's what I've done w/ 100% success rate:

1. claim fresh cargo ship at the location you want to load it up in
2. go to refinery and only put in one job
3. take ship to wherever you want to go & sell cargo.

I've heard you don't need a fresh ship, and that you can do more than one job. But those are the steps I followed with absolute success.

[dusk wasp]

well on the second time i didnt leave the hanger, i just landed to refuel so i stored and retrieved so avoid the qt fuel bug

[sharp swift]

And you still got a bugged cargo? I haven't done that step myself. I go straight from the mining site to where I want to refine

I don't incorporate any extra legs

[glad ivy]

Do 32s fit in a Cat?

[sharp swift]

No?

[glad ivy]

Thanks?

[sharp swift]

I'm just not sure. I I know it won't lock in. But I don't know if you couldn't finagle something

[glad ivy]

Fair enough, I read something that said you could squeeze them in but was hoping to get confirmation from a Tetris master

[sharp swift]

You might be able to if you leave the cargo doors open. And hope that they don't close during QT. Kind of like having a big old piece of wood from home Depot going through the backseat

I've never tried anything like that. So that's just a pure guess

[glad ivy]

I'll have to have an investigation. Mistakenly bought 1000SCU of Iron at Pyro Gate (don't ask) and don't fancy doing 10 trips in the RAFT to make 80k profit

[royal hamlet]

I was able to fit 24’s (stack of 4) then perpendicular I can stack 2 x 24’s. So, maybe 32’s can snap but they should fit.

[modern fog]

im having issues making refinery orders, when i go to confirm it it disappears

[royal hamlet]

Im 90% confident. Hahaha

[royal hamlet]

There could be some solutions or workarounds in earlier conversations in this channel. I’ve seen a lot of chatter regarding this.

[mild pumice]

Yes but not on grid and you have to place them exactly between the doors or they won't close, it will take 8 x 32

[cobalt copper]

i went to retrieve my 60scu pressurized ice refinery order, and when i got the ship out, all the ice was gone

[drowsy phoenix]

Is there any way to break up a box into smaller boxes? Want to transport a refinery job but there's a lot of space still in my FLMax because I can't specify 4scu boxes

[glad ivy]

A Tetris wizard has answered, cheers

[sturdy geyser]

Try to store and retrieve again. Sometimes the boxes are invisible

The boxes might be then stuck to the ship, and if that happens you are screwed. But hopefully everything is ok!

[cobalt copper]

oh my god thank you so much

i have 2x24SCU ice and 1x4SCU ice, how can i get 6SCU of it out for a mission?

[drowsy phoenix]

Just put the 24 box in, it'll take the 6 and leave you the rest

[cobalt copper]

ok, i didnt want to assume it worked

[pearl juniper]

New feature. Back when they did this for save Stanton it took it all. But now the elevator gives change

[cobalt copper]

amazing

[arctic pawn]

I have a few questons about the starfarer
How does the starfarer refueling work?
How do i fill the fuel pods? I cant via landing tab
What does the price thing do
What does the scoop do + how do i activate it

[vivid river]

I second this question

[cobalt copper]

the prices are what the refueled ship has to pay for the fuel

what exactly does laser extraction pwower do?

[weak tinsel]

either how fast ore is collected
or
the minimum mass that can be etracted

but more less its unimportant in my experience

[cobalt copper]

im trying out an impact 2 with 3 vaux-c2 for a total of 5k extraction power to see how that is

[brisk compass]

Hi all, newbie type of question but I need to be sure : Is it possible to adapt salvage modules to a Taurus ?

[pearl juniper]

I believe it's speed. Regardless of laser, I have never seen anything other than a 10scu limit on the size you can extract. Mass doesn't seem to factor into it. or perhaps it's an un-implemented stat? It's not really one that is worth much at this point if all it effects is speed, the extraction process is the quickest part of the whole mining experience

[weak tinsel]

as in salvage with a taurus ?

[brisk compass]

yes, like is it possible to turn a Taurus into a salvage ship by buying and fitting salvage modules ?

[weak tinsel]

i is not possible

[cobalt copper]

damn, i was hoping to be able to directly extract bigger rocks with higher power

[brisk compass]

thank you so much for the quick answer

[weak tinsel]

like minin salvage is only done by a selection of ships
the bits you can buy are only a small portion of the salvage system the rest is kind of built into the ship

just like a toster that has gas burners wont make you steel
bit of a dum example but i guess it works ?

[brisk compass]

yes like the conditioning systems that puts the materials into the crates, is that it ?

[weak tinsel]

yeah

[brisk compass]

yes, 100%. Thank you !

[weak tinsel]

more so that is that
the "modular" ships that are to come into the game might be able to fit a Salvage Module that would allow it to handle salvaged material

but that is prolly in some years to come so no time soon

[brisk compass]

nice, I like the idea

thanks again, good day to you !

[haughty kiln]

How do people load/unload cargo with the Starfarer? I always seem to struggle to unload it when I have a VHRT soft-deathed. The cargo door is so small

[cobalt copper]

i just put it in there

its big enough for anything

tho i mostly do it in gravity

[haughty kiln]

How do you stack it in the central grid? I can't seem to get the 24s in when the first set are gridded

[cobalt copper]

start at the sides

[haughty kiln]

I got that, fill the sides first.

Ah wait, do you mean put the cargo here and then load it on top after?

[cobalt copper]

yea

[haughty kiln]

Gotcha

I'm just spoilt with the Corsair's big door

[cobalt copper]

you can even fit a bunch more cargo in there by using those empty spaces for actual cargo

same way you can get way over 96scu of cargo into a c1

[haughty kiln]

Yeah. It looks like you could fit 32 Scus offgrid? or are they too long

ofc they can fit width-ways

[cobalt copper]

i think that would be too long

you can def fit 4 24 scu containers

[arctic pawn]

I have a few questons about the starfarer
How does the starfarer refueling work?
How do i fill the fuel pods? I cant via landing tab
What does the price thing do
What does the scoop do + how do i activate it

[drowsy phoenix]

First time playin in Pyro, and I asked chat GPT which faction offers the best transport missions. I got this:

Hauling Mission Types:
Supply Delivery – Transport food, medical supplies, and building materials to settlements.
Convoy Escort (Support Role) – While not direct hauling, you may assist cargo convoys.
Infrastructure Development – Deliver materials for settlement construction.
Risk Level: Low to Medium
Profitability: Steady but not the highest-paying
Best For: Players who prefer safe, lawful cargo transport.
2. Frontier Fighters (FF) – Military Logistics & Resupply
Hauling Mission Types:
Military Supply Runs – Deliver ammo, weapons, and fuel to FF outposts.
Emergency Evacuations – Transport personnel and supplies under combat conditions.
Tactical Deployments – Move vehicles and military hardware to conflict zones.
Risk Level: Medium to High (Potential combat encounters)
Profitability: Decent payouts, especially in high-risk zones
Best For: Players who enjoy logistics with a combat twist.
3. Headhunters (HH) – Smuggling & Black Market Runs
Hauling Mission Types:
Smuggling – Transport illegal goods (drugs, stolen tech, weapons) across secure zones.
Pirate Cargo Runs – Move looted cargo to black-market stations.
Contraband Extraction – Retrieve and transport stolen or high-risk items.
Risk Level: Very High (Crime stat risk, PvP threats, law enforcement pursuit)
Profitability: Potentially the highest-paying, but risky
Best For: Players who enjoy high-risk, high-reward smuggling gameplay.

Is this pretty accurate? FF seems pretty interesting to me (delivering tactical vehicles and such)

[spare cloud]

It seems to be talking about the Fight For Pyro event specifically.
Outside of it, there are no missions available for the FF.

[weak tinsel]

now that is something i have never seen anyone do

[spare cloud]

If hauling is your thing, I believe the CFP is the best for it.

[drowsy phoenix]

so if you go CFP, you have "repeatable" missions, where if you go FF you only have the fight for pyro stuff?

[pearl juniper]

the fight for pyro missions lock you into one faction for the mission series, but after that you can do either of the others. Other than within the fight for pyro missions, you are never truly locked to a faction. You can do an intro mission for the other faction, (which ruins your rep with the first faction), and do missions for the other

don't expect to haul any ground vehicles in the FF missions though, I highly doubt that's a thing

[sonic fiber]

Everyone would steal them

Like oh here's a Nova tank please deliver to x. I will give you 10,000

Or more likely 1,000

[spare cloud]

All that within 50km of my refinery

[sharp swift]

I'll answer this in a few minutes when I get home

[arctic pawn]

alright thanks

[hollow sedge]

@spare cloud any suggestions for good orbital mining locations to get Tier A ores? I'm not looking to min/max or chase Quant every waking second, just want to get a decent haul for the time I'm putting in

Is CRU-L1 a decent spot?

[drowsy phoenix]

Check pins, there's a chart

[quick narwhal]

Is there any possible way to get my ship to stop floating in planets

[drowsy phoenix]

what do you mean "floating in planets"

[quick narwhal]

Like when I get out of my pilot seat on eutrupe the ship is floating like a mf

[drowsy phoenix]

after you land, turn the engines off (press i) before getting out of the seat

that's a good practice anyway (lowers your EM signature)

[spare cloud]

Yeaaaaaah I stopped solo MOLE mining on Euterpe because of this. It's wind, and there's no way to prevent your ship from floating when you're not in commands

And landing while MOLE mining is not an option

[quick narwhal]

Fuck, that sucks, and astroid mining sucks right?

[drowsy phoenix]

yeah, MOLE mining solo just isn't worth it IMO. Most asteroids are too big for you to solo mine (especially with stock mining head) and planitary mining is just a pain with the wind

[spare cloud]

Nah, I'm doing good

[drowsy phoenix]

Asteroid mining isn't bad, but if you haven't upgraded your mining head, about 3/4 of the rocks you come across will be too big

[quick narwhal]

Whete

[sharp swift]

How does the starfarer refueling work?
You extend boom. Ship requests to dock (N), you accept ([), they hold N once close enough to auto dock. Once docked, they open up their mobiglass landing page and request fuel. You go to console (back left of the Starfarer bridge/cockpit) and open pod, open nozzle, bam! Money and happy customer.
How do i fill the fuel pods? I cant via landing tab
Yes you can, you just HAVE to do it manually. There are 8 pods and you have to choose what fuel each pod will get and how much of it. You wouldn't want to click auto fill since that would cost you millions.
What does the price thing do
You set your own price. You can gouge or be fair or be charitable. Your call.
What does the scoop do + how do i activate it
I don't think this is functional yet.

[drowsy phoenix]

I honestly found prospector mining on planets to be just as good if not better than MOLE farming. You just need to make more trips and doing the "Don't bug out refinery crates" dance is more annoying

[weak tinsel]

it is
just land in a rock or a hill
its doable and imo still better than prospector trips but that is just me

[sturdy geyser]

i saw a suggestion to CIG to do this, but I don't think they have announced that they are going to do this at all

[drowsy phoenix]

I thought I read somewhere Power / (Resistance * mass) - cooling rate = energy transfer (how much up/down the cracking indicator moves)

[arctic pawn]

amazing, thanks so much

[dusk wasp]

yes, they just barely fit between the doors when closed, not on the grid, so its hard to stack anything on top of them, but they fit and will stay during qt

[hollow sedge]

would a Hof + Rieger combo be enough to tackle your typical 'roid?

[drowsy phoenix]

Not sure... Honestly I don't use gadgets because I can't be bothered to do the math on what it would take, what the cost of the gadgets are, and how much "profit" I'll lose vs the time investment of just going and finding another roid.

Honestly, if you own your MOLE and can outfit it with the highest level stuff, it's probably not that bad. If you're using the rental, IMO forget it

[weak tinsel]

Rental mole is ok
just make sure to use it for most of the time
rental prospector is better since its cheaper so less risk of loss
min maxing the heads and gadgets requires not much
more power = bigger rock crackable
resistance % lowering = bigger rock crackable
rest is unimportant unless minmaxing

[ashen lotus]

Can someone explain how to create an order in refinery? Then I click confirm nothing happens. For example I have 46 SCU of ore and about 2 SCU of trash, when it asks if I aware the trash will go I click ok and nothing happens.

[weak tinsel]

you need to chose a method
then tick off what ore you want
innert can not be refined and wont allow clicking on it
ferrit exchange or somethign like that is the fastes high yield method

[daring vale]

Anyone here have experience with selling CMats?

I've got a Reclaimer and a massive source of CMats, but I don't want to start grabbing them if it means finding out that all of the terminals only buy two SCU's a day.

[vestal ravine]

I sell my CM at Orison they take larger amounts.

[daring vale]

Do they have any upper limits?

[hot palm]

They do, pre event they were always full

[daring vale]

What would be the likely profits from a mostly full Reclaimer?

Well..

I can probably answer that myself. A full buffer alone is 250 SCU. Payout is like, 2-3k per SCU? That's about 750K for a full buffer, right?

[drowsy phoenix]

You should use the CM and RMC for the priority missions right now... They give a bigger pay out per SCU then selling it

[daring vale]

I can get CM any time, in large quantities. The issue is that I have an overabundance of it currently, and I'm saving the RMC to help people get through the event.

So if I want to make money, I have to find something to sell, and CM is something I can get easily any time of the day. Literally a full buffer of 250 SCU in ten minutes or less.

I'd be spending time scraping up more RMC, but my Reclaimer scrapers continue to bug about every thirty SCU, registering the target hull as having zero SCU/s of RMC. The only workaround seems to be that I must replace the Reclaimer entirely.

Nobody seems to have an alternate fix.

[copper plaza]

where can i find tin in pyro

[vestal ravine]

I would take a big chunk of it one of 4 TDD's, see how much you can easily sell, then relog to new shards until all is sold. Not familiar with the 30 RMC glitch.

[sly shuttle]

What are you doing to get CM so fast? I’ve been buying salvaging missions but it doesn’t feel efficient

[mild pumice]

Take the tar pits coverup mission, a Starfarer one is a full buffer in one munch

Hammerhead is quite a lot too.

Munching completes the mission too so free money 💰

[quick narwhal]

Just insurance fraud. With your own reclaimer

[torn moss]

anyone know where is the best place to mine Ice?

literally struggling to find any in all of the clusters and RABs

[mild pumice]

Have you tried the ring of Pyro 6 or the further out clusters, they should be in the coldest parts of the system, plus I heard they are quite rare spawn but contain pretty much all ice. The signal was 1660 IIRC

[vestal ravine]

The Regolith site shows the various highest percentages of Pressurized Ice in Pyro. Based on that info here is where I'll be mining for the event: The RBA's of Sierra, Cook and Ultra. Also near Terminus CAJ-445. Good luck!!

[torn moss]

Havent tried the wring but pretty much everything between Pyro 5 and the sun ive checked out

only found 1 ice node, and it was 50% ice

[torn moss]

been to all those areas, small asteroid fields literally takes 5 minutes to go from the beginning to the end

[cobalt copper]

the best location is RAB Sierra

[daring vale]

I go to Yela, where there's missions that pay to scrape the hull of large ships, usually Starfarers and Hammerheads. Doesn't take long to just pull up and crunch them now that I've got appropriate distance for crunching dialed in.

[inland spire]

Hurston really need to clean up their logistics, I just hauled 80 SCU of stims from Teasa to Everus, and then picked up another contract to bring 93 SCU of stims from Everus back to Teasa 🙄 I just brought most of these up a second ago, people!

[inland spire]

is it known what conditions cause contract cargo to lose its "contractness" upon delivery and end up in your personal inventory? really would love to be able to avoid that 😖

[inland spire]

is cargo contract-specific? i.e. if I accept two contracts for the same good, and load them at the same time, does it matter which boxes go to which destination, or are they interchangeable?

[pearl juniper]

they are not interchangeable. It's a huge pain when that happens. Best to avoid accepting two at a time with the same goods

[vivid river]

@inland spire I've never had such issues. Just make sure it's what they want

Example
3 contracts
-1. Asks for 4 iron, 3 tin, and 7 ice
-2. Asks for 9 iron, 4 croundrum
-3. Asks for 3 tin

All goin to the same place or different wont matter
All of its in your ship mixed up. Long as you give the requested your fine.

I just do ones going to the same place to make it easier on me tho so take what you will from that

[regal tide]

How is it that being the furtherest away from a Star there is no ICE lol

[sharp swift]

You're looking for signatures in multiples of 1660, right?

1660 × 1 = 1660
1660 × 2 = 3320
1660 × 3 = 4980
1660 × 4 = 6640
1660 × 5 = 8300

[ornate halo]

If you find more than 3, let us know....

[potent plaza]

any updated pictures on what points ahve what ores and such? also good all purpose head for the prospector not needing any usage modules. still the helix i presume?

[sharp swift]

Helix for sure since controlling distance is easy

[quick narwhal]

Best set up for solo mole to break big rocks in space?

Currently have
Helix 2
Reiger c3s
And stampede.
I'm nit too worried about window. I do well without

[drowsy phoenix]

There has to be a way to filter hauling missions somehow right? Fucking 70 Hauling missions and I'm getting crosseyed looking at them

[hexed cove]

anyone doing the event with reclaimer? that i can join with

I want to learn salvage

[zenith maple]

try #looking-for-session or !guide or just ingame general chat

[jolly dagger]

Star Citizen's Player Guide System

Click the link above to request a player who can guide you through any gameplay aspect, including the Basics. Can also be used to find a buddy to play with!

Login required to access the page

[potent plaza]

so when looking at passive modules for mining heads when they say extraction laser power, what is that meaning?

[regal tide]

Is there anyway to get more then 144SCU on the mole I can't seem able to snap the last 4 in the back?

[lapis charm]

There isn't but just try to learn the keywords to quickly look through em and find what you're looking for.

[quick narwhal]

I've seen a video on this, but I gotta figure out how to do it.

[regal tide]

@quick narwhal do you have the video?

[quick narwhal]

I saw it on youtube, I'll have to find it

[regal tide]

I have the one to get it up to 144 SCU that's it.

[quick narwhal]

Oh okay

[inland spire]

not my experience though. I'm seeing behaviour more in line with what @pearl juniper says. I had three contracts for processed food and pressurised ice, at the first stop some of the processed food boxes just did not want to register on the elevator and ended up in my personal inventory instead of being delivered for the contract. I ended up giving up on the whole bunch as it was late and I did not want to spend another couple of hours sorting out two commodities across six destinations

[vivid river]

Huh guess ill have ta try myself then

Ill come back here with my findings after work today

Only 7 more hours till I can haul in space again

[cobalt copper]

does anyone really use mining gadgets? they seem like so much of a hassle for not that big of a benefit

[spare cloud]

I use Optimax a lot

On a 120 SCU rock with 10-20% inert materials, that's what guarantees me all of it will be in the same 10-20 SCU rock after cracking, rest is pure ore

[ashen lotus]

I've replaced the Prospector's Pods with Mole's, filled 12 SCU, bed-logged, logged back in, and the game reverted them to the original ones 🤦

Is there any fix to that? Don't bedlog? Bedlog again? Claim ship again?

I don't want to lose 60k each time I bedlog and stuggle to replace them again

[flint forge]

master hauling quests are a joke, needing that high rep and not add the pay for it, hahaha

[vestal ravine]

I think you need to save the new bags via VLM process.

[orchid void]

how much do they pay? and how many containers are we talking about? I've always been curoius

[flint forge]

200-400k

all multi drop offs

all 200+ SCU

[orchid void]

container size?

[flint forge]

maybe that will change if i move away from everus

[flint forge]

the ones i saw where 16 or below

[vivid river]

VLM?

[shell sorrel]

when will the mining cheat sheets be updated to 4.1?

[quick narwhal]

Hiw do you activate stampede module

[orchid void]

use regolith

it's updated

and gives you everything there is from the sheets

https://regolith.rocks/

[vestal ravine]

Yes, The Vehicle Loadout Manager. Have you used this before under the F1 keys then to the right? Ship must be in your same spot hanger.

[pure geyser]

Guys

Anyone having this problem where the loadout on the mole is a mess? You can’t choose where you want the modules, when I get the mole out they just change to a different turret (although I used it fine yesterday)

[shell sorrel]

what is the score bonus associated with select locations?

bonus multiplier when scanning in this gravity well??

[pearl juniper]

that's if you are part of the Regolith Survey Corp, submitting scans from that location gives you more points on their leader board

[left zenith]

My MOLE setup has remained consistent between play sessions.

Both with bed logging as well as storing/retrieving.

(Including the increase up to 144 SCU bags)

[sharp swift]

You have to store the ship, open mobiglass, unequip a mining mod, reequip, click save, then you can bring the ship back up with the improved bags

You essentially have to tell the system that THAT new config is how you want the ship to be 'saved'

If you only swap the bags, the system doesn't know that it is your desire to store it as is. A non-intuitive safety net for when parts get stolen or destroyed.

Same reason with not clicking 'repair' after you do the swaps. The game 'repairs' it by restoring it to the saved state.

[inland spire]

wtf, I just lost all my rep with covalex? they're only offering a single "re-evaluation" contract? what's going on?

[devout mural]

i would be sad if that happened

[inland spire]

why the f would that happen? I did the re-eval, and now I'm back to "trainee"

I was a member dammit

oh dammit the penalties for failing a member contract are steep

[devout mural]

ahh

[inland spire]

even if you "fail" it because of game bugs, like cargo losing its contractness at random delivery

[devout mural]

is it better to abandon than fail?

[inland spire]

yes, apparently

fail is -10000, abandon is -1000

[devout mural]

good to know 😦

[inland spire]

so always abandon bugged contracts, never submit

getting back to member is probably like 5 days of work, fuck this

[mild pumice]

Did you 'submit' a mission that didn't complete?

[inland spire]

yes

[mild pumice]

Never do that unless the cargo shows green as delivered, better to just abandon

[inland spire]

figured that out already

[mild pumice]

Yeah I was just gonna say it seems like you've figured that out

Learned the hard way

Whoever thought that much negative rep for a fail in a game this full of bugs was a good idea is beyond me

[sullen sentinel]

So is it also better to abandon a contract than to just log out and let it disappear, does that count as a fail?

[mild pumice]

Abandon or log out is the same

[sullen sentinel]

Gotcha

[mild pumice]

Only cargo destruction or submitting a 0 delivery counts as fail

There's no rep loss for abandoning by the way, they removed that so people could safely get rid of bugged contracts, they just never addressed the harsh fail penalty

[sullen sentinel]

That's good to know

[finite bobcat]

Yeah mission rep is brutal

Cig should almost disable rep loss

Until they make missions consistently work

[tall karma]

Relog is -0. Best way to avoid rep loss for hauling.

[inland spire]

now I know

[tall karma]

Submit if over 50% complete. Relog for any other scenario

[devout mural]

I'm looking at the Fortune... is there a limit to the size of ships it can fracture/munch?

I'd guess it's the same/similar to Vulture which is limited to ships the size of MSR or smaller but can't find any info about it.

[tall karma]

Fortune cannot fracture

It is limited to scraping RMC

[sullen sentinel]

Another drake W

[devout mural]

I don't believe that to be true. I've used it to fracture/disintegrate. I just don't know the limits and haven't run into big enough ships to try yet.

[tall karma]

You have a fortune and have fractured with it?

[devout mural]

Yes. I didn't make that clear above.

StarCitizen has a video showing it in action, as well.

https://youtu.be/selRp4K8uiQ?si=C23FJOx--eyxBO27&t=178

[tall karma]

Hmm interesting as it was regularly talked about at initial release to not fracture. I doubt it can do as much or bigger than the vulture since it has only the one salvage arm.

[devout mural]

Yeah, I'm pretty new and impulse bought the Fortune warbond because I wanted a money maker with LTI 😊

I didn't even know about the fracture limit on Vulture until today when i was reading a wiki.

[regal tide]

https://youtu.be/Ry5OADRw7oY?si=HI_hxZspwg1owZDJ

Does anyone know if there's a way to complete this to the back four?

[sharp swift]

AFAIK you can only expand the back 4's capacity using this method. It's the front 2 that you cannot due to blocking geometry

So 144SCU is the cap until people try/figure out if they can get the remaining pods upgraded

[narrow kettle]

can someone tell me how I actually refine ore these days? I havent been mining since cargo refactor and since the bags of the prospector work

[spare cloud]

Refining hasn't changed, the refineries still don't support freight elevators

[narrow kettle]

so just land, store, go to refinerie and done?

[spare cloud]

Correct

Set up your refinery order, all that

And picking up the refiner order is done by auto loading into a stored ship, no fee or waiting time

[narrow kettle]

do I do sell to refiniery?

[spare cloud]

No, that's to directly sell unrefined ores to the refinery.
Use the terminals just on the right of it to refine

[narrow kettle]

uh what? 😂

oh left... they are to the left

[spare cloud]

Ah, a pyro station

Yeah, that

[narrow kettle]

are the mining cheat sheets still up to date?

and should I rather get a mole for more cargo? 😂

[spare cloud]

They pretty much are. There's regolith.rock you can use too, good site

[narrow kettle]

ah yes true

[spare cloud]

Solo MOLE is more profitable than prospector, but it's also a lot of running around. But yeah, get one if you don't mind

[narrow kettle]

honestly I just want to get the tin for supply or die. But I noticed that the refinery closest to the best tin spots still is quite a bit far away

and going back and forth for 48 SCu is meh

[spare cloud]

While I'm doing Copper/Corundum with 144 SCU just outside of the refinery, within 50km of it

[indigo patio]

hey! can some1 tell me: if I mine copper worth of 32 scu. how much is it if i high yield refine it. am i getting 30 copper scu in return or how does it work?

[narrow kettle]

but 26 mil...

[spare cloud]

13mils

[narrow kettle]

https://regolith.rocks/tables/ore

regolith has a calculator for each method

is there a different calculator than regolith? I want to see the time / cost / yield of each method, regolith is kinda weird on that

[rain tinsel]

is there a chart showing level progress between each rep level of Hauling Contracts? IE Rookie contracts are so many points, junior etc

[mild pumice]

The rep are 500, 1000, 2000, 4000, 6000, 8000

Rookie, junior, member, experienced, senior, master.

This is a good guide I saw:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1j7x4wx/hauling_rep_and_money_guide/

There was a post with the level progression but I can't find it now, but it pretty much doubles per rank

[inland spire]

do boxes in the elevator need to be on the grid, or just inside is sufficient?

[sullen sentinel]

On the grid otherwise you'll get a warning that the elevator is blocked

[rain tinsel]

they can also be stacked on top of the grid but not snapped

basically, it can be a pile to the ceiling, it will still transfer down

it will make alot of noise though !! but will transfer in the end

On another issue, have they "Fixed" the Package Delivery Contracts by deleting the whole thing? I noticed there are no more package delivery contracts, just cargo

[mild pumice]

They're just yet to be refactored for meshing. I think they've started to add some pyro ones in PTU

[rain tinsel]

TY, I used to love that game loop, The Space Fedex guy

[mild pumice]

I do miss delivering to city roof tops

[rain tinsel]

yep

also a great way to learn how to fly your ship !

[orchid void]

Any tips on how to attach the bags of the mole underneath those that are already there?

I'm trying to get my mole to 144SCU

but the new ones aren't simply locking below those placed already

[proud pumice]

Did you take the puck ones out?

[orchid void]

you mean the prospector ones? Yep I've removed four of those

(you xan see some of the mole bags are higher than the rest)

it's just not snapping

[proud pumice]

Sorry, didnt look close enough.

So when attaching them back, there are actually 3 attachment points, and it can take some finagling to get the highest one to highlight for attachment

You have to make sure the first one is at the highest attachment point, then the second will attach without problem

And it looks like your bag is at the middle or lower point

[orchid void]

oh there's a middle point? I thought there only was a lower and higher

lower being the standard position

alr let me try replacing those ones

[proud pumice]

Nope, there are actually 3. The bag, and then each point that the pucks were attached to

I'm hoping someone figures out how to get the back 4 to do the same

[orchid void]

I mean they are as high as they can get

do the bags also clip with the ship or only between each other?

Cause right now you can see the difference the left one should be positioned correctly right?

While the right onw should go higher

[proud pumice]

Yeah, the right should def be higher. I'm not where I can check my ship in person for comparison

[orchid void]

now they are both as high asa the left one

same for the two ones on the other side of the ship

[proud pumice]

Wait, quick question bc I can't tell from the photo. Are you doing this with the 4 closest to the lift, or the 4 at the back

[orchid void]

two closest to the pilot seat

(4) closest to the pilot seat

[proud pumice]

Ok, thats correct

I'm sorry, I'm not sure at all why it's not working for you, I didn't have this kind of trouble. If there's no one else who can assist, when I'm on later tonight I can message you and if you're around Ill join your server and see if I can figure it out if you'd like

[orchid void]

alr ty, if I do not respond it's probably cause I went to sleep

thanks for the help anyway :D

[proud pumice]

Fair enough. I'm a night shifter so I'm always on late

[dusk wasp]

so how do i detach the bags from my mole, the tractor wont grab them?

[ornate halo]

Open your ports first

Right-Alt+K from the Pilots chair

[dusk wasp]

oh oki thanks!

[hoary hinge]

Note that not all ships give you a on-screen indication that ports have been opened
If there's no indication, it still works, and it's a toggle. If you spam it, you will just have a 50/50 chance of having ended on the right setting

[dusk wasp]

it worked thanks

do i need to store my mole again after i done it to save the change or?

[ornate halo]

It doesnt matter- if you have to claim, it will reset

[dusk wasp]

ok so make sure i dont die, got it

[ornate halo]

Same thing with the 80-Prospector

[vivid river]

@pearl juniper i do stand corrected, yes it will matter which crate you give your missions for different locations

[indigo patio]

hello - where is hurston L3?

[vivid river]

left side of the hurston ring

[hoary hinge]

should be the opposite side of Hurston's orbit
Slightly northeast of Crusader

[pearl juniper]

Pain in the ass, it is

[vivid river]

yea but again i just handle ones going to the same place

that and back again

[inland spire]

for every planet: L1 and L2 are close to the planet, L1 is towards the star, L2 is away
L3 is on the planet's orbit, but opposite side of the star
L4 and L5 are on the planet's orbit, about 1/3 along the way towards L3, one on each side

[vivid river]

inncorect mux, atleast for L5 and L3

got those 2 backwards

[vivid river]

yea for all orbits (at least for stanton), L3 is opposite of respective planet and L5 is 1/3

[inland spire]

ah could be

yeah

[vivid river]

just looked at the ingame map

[regal tide]

THis fucking game. I just loaded my ship and the hanger door had a double door and I tried go out of it and half way through it my ship turned purple and destroyed the ship and I lost everything GG CIG

[mild pumice]

Don't try to go through when the hangar is overlapping just wait a few seconds then it will clear, of course if you were half way through that's just bad luck. It's like running into an elevator shaft when it's black, just don't do it. I know, little consolation now but you know for next time.

[inland spire]

dammit did 4 haul contracts, all 4 bugged at least half cargo on delivery, one bugged more than half 😖

[indigo patio]

am i reading regolith

[hoary hinge]

depends, what's the URL bar say?

[sharp swift]

I would store it. unequip something and reequip it and click save changes

[crisp bobcat]

Thats a lot of CM

[drifting cave]

For Supply or Die, where's the best location to salvage?

is it still panels or is there a good contract?

[drifting cave]

Where'd you get an 890 to spawn?

[crisp bobcat]

It looks like the bots are bugged at Checkmate

There is another floating around me

[hoary hinge]

you need 2SCU or CM for every 1SCU or RMC for the SoD missions

one option is taking a bunker defend mission (so that you're allwed to approach the bunker without trespass) and salvaging the player ships there
Another option is getting a buddy to take bounties and eating the bounty corpses

[plain comet]

guys how can i upgrade my mole i se theres new heads and gadets and laser upgrades but idk what it all means

[tepid sonnet]

How do I do not terrible in a Fortune?

[hoary hinge]

by getting a vulture

[tepid sonnet]

I have a Fortune. No Vulture. Vulture is Drake and Drake depresses me.

[hoary hinge]

Vulture feels like I'm in a backhoe or a grader; some big Cat or Komatsu

Other Drake is depressing, but Vulture actually has interior panels :)

[tepid sonnet]

It’s dark and depressing. How much is an upgrade from a Fortune again? When they automate the interior conveyor, I will consider it but not like this.

[hoary hinge]

Vulture is 2.65M in-game

[tepid sonnet]

I have real money. Not IG money. I have like, 4K AUEC.

I shall make do with the Fortune.

[hoary hinge]

I mean, I getcha
but it's 2 scrapers vs 1
I have not heard a single nice thing about the Fortune

[tepid sonnet]

It auto deploys it’s boxes.

[tepid sonnet]

Twice as fast is not fast enough.

[devout mural]

I honestly haven’t used the Vulture, but I’ve been happy with my Fortune so far.

For fracturing it’s just as fast as Vulture, so for SoD right now it’s doing fine since that’s more required than RMC.

[tepid sonnet]

But how do I get the RMC when that’s required?

[devout mural]

Put an Abrade head on and just do it.

Specifically, you can find panels floating around asteroids and stuff. Seems like the cheap way to avoid paying 20k aUEC for a small origin ship which yields little 🤣

I don’t know if twice the speed of scraping is really that important if i then have to manually eject each box. I like my automation

[tepid sonnet]

Same. Is Abrade the fastest?

What do the different multipliers and efficiencies do?

[hoary hinge]

scrape, then fracture

[tepid sonnet]

It takes 5 minutes to get a single SCU.

[hoary hinge]

do you ahve the stock cinch head?

[tepid sonnet]

Yes…

[hoary hinge]

Abrade.

[tepid sonnet]

How much faster is it?

[ripe grail]

yes

[hoary hinge]

with two on the Vulture, I get probably an SCU in 30sec

[devout mural]

abrade is much faster than cinch

[hollow sedge]

If the Fortune is fully loaded with boxes and the auto eject has been turned on, does it keep sending boxes to the grid when you start unloading?

[devout mural]

you have to go push the "eject" button once for each side, then it kicks the rest of them out

[hollow sedge]

So if you push that when you land, before you get out to unload, would it keep pumping them out once you start to free up spaces on the grid?

[sterile current]

hey eveyone

[near swallow]

Little bit of info for Mole owners: If you get an issue where your Mole says it has 0/0 SCU cargo capacity, you can fix that by detaching and reattaching the bags. In doing so however, you may notice that there are 2 sets of "MISC Ore Pods" attached as well. You don't want to mess with them, they're not functional ore pods yet and if removed, they can't be attached where they were at before, and will be visibly missing until the next patch. So, just pull the regular bags off and put them back on.

[quick narwhal]

Best place to find ICE?

[weak tinsel]

https://regolith.rocks/survey/ores

look around in here

and remember its RNG so no spot is best really

[vivid obsidian]

What's the best cargo ship you can rent rn and where? I'm running the c1 and its...trash. I forgot where i got the freelancer...

[mild pumice]

Freelancer is at cargo decks, you can also rent a Constellation Taurus which has the largest capacity of the rentals, you'll have to check item finder for the location tho

https://finder.cstone.space/

[hidden garden]

96 scu isn't enough?

[weak tinsel]

if you are running a lot then it starts to feel really bad

[mild pumice]

Also if mining cargo only 64scu can be used

[hidden garden]

Aint no way someone wants to use a freelancer over it though

[weak tinsel]

you can retrive -> load to station -> repete
then take a whole load

[spare cloud]

Freelancer MAX I can understand

I'd still use a C1 over it, but I can understand

[devout mural]

Anytime the grid is full it will stop auto ejecting, so when I land I clean off the external grids, the jump in and start it again, then it’s easy to pull one off while it auto ejects the remaining 13.

[cobalt copper]

what loadouts do yall use in the mole?

[spare cloud]

For a solo, that is.
Wouldn't recommend for a crewed ship.

[astral panther]

https://youtu.be/Yxw0POZir18?si=3nvJhoAIzy6vEyqt

[cobalt copper]

whats the best thing to do if the rock either is too weak (min power too high) or the optimal window is too small?

[spare cloud]

Depends how it is, but I generally do that kind of thing

[cobalt copper]

ive had rocks where the optimal zone is like an 8th of that

[spare cloud]

That's while using the Helix, so I couldn't just went for the Hofstede instead and wouldn't have faced this issue

[cobalt copper]

and where even a short toggle of the laser almost fills it up to max at minimal power

[spare cloud]

IMO if this happens you're probably cracking something not worth it, or using a head way too strong.

[cobalt copper]

well im currently mining mostly ice and tin

[spare cloud]

I use a Hofstede + 2x Focus III for the lowest achievable power + good green zone (could be Focus I for even less power but also less green zone) and I actually never needed this head so far. My Hofstede + 2x FLTR-XL does the job just fine for all small stuff I came across

[regal tide]

Terrible idea to respawn back with all gear. They need to just added a recovery Tab to the cargo terminals for bought items.

[indigo patio]

hey! is corrondum rare? cuz i was searching for it on clio and i found NOTHING

is it depending on time or smth

[near swallow]

For ice, my Hofstede S2 with Rieger C3 and Focus III has been working well. I haven't actually needed to use my Helix II, with 2x Rieger C3 and 1 Focus III. (The Helix II has a small green zone, which does make it harder to use, but also has the power to fragment larger rocks.) There are occasions I have to pulse the Hofstede, but usually on secondary fractures.

[orchid void]

Same here for ice hofsteed is good enough

ice is soft

[sharp swift]

Regolith.rocks
Different areas have different ores present

[cobalt copper]

surge only lasts 15s, is that really worth it?

[spare cloud]

Fuck yeah it is. Life saver for some rocks, and not needed for most.

[cobalt copper]

the largest rocks have usually taken more than 15s for me

[spare cloud]

You use the surge twice

[narrow kettle]

can someone tell me why I loose 12 SCU when I refine 80 SCU, but only 1.2 SCU, when I refine 42?

Same method, same station... but 10 times more lost, by less than 2x more ore

[spare cloud]

You sure the first one was 42 and not 48 ? MOLE bag upgraded prospector is 48 SCU.

[narrow kettle]

hmm, I was kinda sure that it was 42 SCU

[spare cloud]

48 would make sense

[narrow kettle]

I mean it was a full prospector with 4x MOLE bags, but I thought that was 42

now it's a MOLEMISC prospector with 80

[spare cloud]

2xMOLE bags doesn't work ?

[hollow sedge]

why a surge and not another reiger c3?

[spare cloud]

Cause Surge bonus is more important, and for most case I don't need yet an other Rieger.

[hollow sedge]

alrighty

[vivid river]

so
whats yalls thoughts on the new salvo starters comin to town?

[rigid crescent]

where do i sell 16scu boxes of cm, lorville admin dont buy that size

[vivid river]

TDD if i remember correctly

i might be wrong on that

[rigid crescent]

i thought tdd was rmc but i will try

[vivid river]

TDD babbage, A18, and orison

heres a link for all sell locations regarding CM
https://uexcorp.space/commodities/info/name/construction-materials/tab/locations_buying/

nothing bout lorrvile :/

[rigid crescent]

been a while since i used it, i used to fly in and out of lorville and sell there

[vivid river]

lemme know if you find a sell point there would be good info to put there

[rigid crescent]

that was pre mastermodes, i quit for a bit while they tuned it

[vivid river]

ahh true nough

[narrow kettle]

loadout for a Prospector? 😂

[narrow kettle]

please? 😮

[regal tide]

Has anyone figured out how to double the front four mining bags of the mole or is it just undoable

[tough rapids]

Who knows that secret commodity trading route in pyro? the one that 3rd party sites don't publish? I lost the reddit with it in the comments.

[narrow kettle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1jb3ezp/402double_the_capacity_of_your_mole_and_prospector/

I think it's explained here

[halcyon aspen]

Im soloing a mole and I have a Helix 2 with a Rieger C3, a Torrent 3 , and a Focus 3. Any reason why I cant crack an asteroid at 80 SCU, 17% resistance, and an instability of 186?

mass is about 30k

Also is there a way to upgrade my scanner?

[tropic root]

Quick question i have been mining and when I finish my refinery work orders it says it puts it in my carrack but its not in the carrack when I check did I just lose all my tin or am I being dumb?

[pearl juniper]

Try storing the ship and bringing it back up

Sometimes it doesn't show the first time

[tropic root]

Ok

[pearl juniper]

This is my current Mole loadout. 30k mass at 17% resistance probably isn't crackable without at least one of the modules being a Surge.

Actually, yes, here's another loadout I have run in the past, with one of the Riegers replaced with a Surge. That would get you above 30k on a single laser at 17% resistance

[indigo patio]

hey

i need help

i started a prio mission and i shared it with my party members- we gave everything in the elevator and according to the mission we completed it, but somehow it still shows up in the contracts and we didnt get any money

is there any workaround?

[sharp swift]

The servers may be acting up, grab a snack and pray they recover

[indigo patio]

you mean by grab a snack to get a snack in real life or in the game? xD

[sharp swift]

both

[brisk rock]

Do the hauling missions advance to eventually letting you use the hull c as you rank up?

[ornate halo]

Yes. If it works. Iirc they hit when you reach Experianced

[regal tide]

What just happened I loaded my ship with cargo I called it up the lift and it turned Purple and disappeared can I get my Cargo back?

[indigo patio]

is there anything i can do with illegal or stolen marked items?

[spare cloud]

That's a known issue on the issue council that you can contribute to.
I don't know how this gets triggered and if you can prevent it or not, maybe you can find more information in the comments of the report.

[spare cloud]

Sell them at illegal terminals. Grim HEX, scrapyards...

[spare cloud]

I'd go for Helix[Rieger-C3 + Surge] and if you're a maniac you can also carry a Hofstede[FLTR-XL] inside the ship to switch when you want.
I wouldn't. Just Sabir and Optimax gadgets.

[lapis charm]

You can use them for any station to station contract if those stations have cargo decks. But yeah the Hull C intended ones show up at Experienced.

[ripe grail]

Is it better to mine at cellin or mine in pyro

[orchid void]

I'm using a stampede instead of a surge should I change?

also is it even true that the farther you go from the sun the more ice you find in pyro?

[tepid dirge]

How long would you say it takes to fully load a reclaimer 400 + 400scu with 3 to 4 players?

[spare cloud]

Stampede gives less of a power bonus but is nice if you need more instability reduction, and less shatter damage, but I prefer going with a Surge for even more power,

[ashen lotus]

Is there any secret in pressured ice hunting? I've spent 3hours yesterday on RAB-SIERA and RAB-COOK looking for TYPE-I asteroids with signature 1660 and I found 0. This is sad.

[ornate halo]

What are you mining for, and what with?
If you're hunting for stuff for Supply or Die, none of it drops on Cellin.
If you're just looking for a chill time with some pretty easy and rich-enough ore, then Cellin is good

[desert crypt]

Is there any keybinds for moving the sliders on mining gadgets? Trying to carefully move the sliders in Zero-G is a bear!!

[narrow kettle]

thanks. Yeah, I'm not too fuzzed about "hardcore mining". All I do is look for rocks with tin and break them. Currently using Helix with Rieger C3 and Focus 3. I guess I can switch to surge, is that better?

[desert crypt]

Item recovery is a huge waste of dev time to solve a problem that won’t exist. Because all they have to do is deliver item crafting. Then players will craft large stockpiles of their favorite gear.

[spare cloud]

Surge will help for bigger rocks you may not be able to crack without it.
I don't know how's tin, but if it's lots of small rocks, it's not necessary

[narrow kettle]

there often are a bunch of impossible rocks inbetween currently, but per ore deposit, mostly like 2-3, the rest is mineable for me

[spare cloud]

Not sure how big they are, but you should be able to crack ~25k rocks with 0% resistance with the help of Surge, against just ~18-20k with Rieger Focus

[ancient thistle]

Anyone know what button on keyboard to unlock ship so you can change bags. I already tried just shutting off the shields, but it's not letting me use my lift gun to take them off. Some ships it shows in the cockpit....not seeing it in the Mole.

[near swallow]

Unlock Ports is one of the options available via PIT. (Alt+F) Not sure if the keybind works for me because in some ships I haven't seen any indicator for it with the new HUD.

The keybind normally is right alt+k

[ancient thistle]

Thanks! I will try that..

Guessing you have to be in the chair to do it..lol

Alt F worked... Thanks @near swallow

[narrow kettle]

hey, mr. Pro Miner, thanks so far. Another thing, how do I get refined ores out of the refinery?

I know, select ship and click the button - but I've read that a lot of refineries ate the cargo. Anything to pay attention to? I have like 5 or 6 finished refinery jobs. Do I just load them all at the same time or should I, like, not do it that way?

[spare cloud]

Haven't heard about refineries eating cargo in ages, but there's an issue if you auto load in ships that have been stored automatically. Like when you leave your hangar, your ship gets auto stored.

The best thing to do is to freshly claim your cargo ship, and then select it as destination for your orders. You can stack multiple orders, no problem.

Once you claimed the ship, as long as you never let the game auto store it, by storing it yourself and not leaving the hangar before the ASOP shows "Retrieve", you should be good, but to make sure, you can also claim the ship each time you want to collect orders.

[narrow kettle]

can I not just store it myself when I get there? or does that also cause that issue? Just asking.

[spare cloud]

Like I said, if the ship has never been auto stored, you should be good. But it's best you claim it.

[narrow kettle]

will do thanks

[ashen lotus]

it's the same one, you can save the ship again and retrieve it back with cargo
happens to me each time I am taking cargo out of refinery
wonder why we can't just select the location itself

[spare cloud]

Ah yes, cargo not appearing. No, not the same bug as what I describe, but that's a thing yes. And yeah, workaround is to store and retrieve until the cargo shows

[ashen lotus]

well it behaves in the same way
first time you retrieve the ship with cargo out of refinery the cargo is invisible just like when you leave it unstored

[spare cloud]

Failing to see how the two bugs have anything in common other that cargo being bricked.
One is it not showing despite being there, and fixed by storing retrieving the ship.
Other is cargo being here but impossible to detach no matter what, which happens in ships that have been auto stored, and doesn't in freshly claimed ones.

[ashen lotus]

oh, then we are talking about different bugs

[narrow kettle]

so... I did exactly what you said, claimed my orders and... my ship is empty

I literally lost 3 days of mining tin lol

I guess I pray and store/retrieve it a 3rd time now

yeah I guess that fixed it

[spare cloud]

phew

[narrow kettle]

my poor tin.

[ashen lotus]

how long does it take for an asteroid to repsawn? can it be that I can't find any TYPE-I because they all are already mined?

[sharp swift]

Perhaps, just server hop

bed log and join back in and hope the server isn't wonky

[narrow kettle]

I swear to god... are there any tricks with the C2? I'm trying to get that damn box in there since 10 minutes

in there that is

[spare cloud]

Nah it's just painful

But it's not as bad as a Cat or Zeus CL

C2 is good

[narrow kettle]

I wish... I just cant get it to snap

[sharp swift]

buy an ATLS

[narrow kettle]

thats the best I can to

[sharp swift]

easy snap

[narrow kettle]

fucking finally

[inland spire]

I've just purchased a Vulture and looking to outfit it, I've watched a guide that suggests FR66 shields, JS-300 power plants, and Glacier coolers, and I tried to find them on finder.cstone.space, but it says "not sold directly or at all", how does one obtain those?

[sharp swift]

All the vulture needs is abrade heads

[inland spire]

yeah, I know, those are listed as "nice to haves" in case you need some running away to happen

I'm more interested out of general interest, how does one obtain components that aren't on the market?

[sharp swift]

erkul has locations listed per item

[narrow kettle]

they are not being sold, period. The only way to get them are CZs or Piracy (or if a ship has them by default, you could get them from PvE bounties)

[inland spire]

it says "item unavailable in shops"

apart from switching out the tractor beam for a second abrade, which seems like a good advice, any other upgrades (with mass-market components) people would recommend then?

[narrow kettle]

simple. Best shields you can buy, coolers with low power usage, powerplant with most power you can buy, quantum drive which fits your needs

[inland spire]

I'm extremely fresh, this is my first ship purchase (besides the pledge), so I have no idea where to even start. I still have no idea what to look for and how to meaningfully compare components

so not so simple (to me) 😅

[narrow kettle]

just check !erkul - you can compare components there and filter. I just told you what to look for on the components

[jolly dagger]

#DPSCalculator

• Calculator • Shops • Ships • Weapons •

[narrow kettle]

for the quantum drive, you have to decide if you want to proorize speed, range or low cooldown

[inland spire]

if a ship is S2 (e.g. the vulture), does it mean all its components are S2?

[spare cloud]

No. Ship size isn't tied to comp size that way.

[inland spire]

then if its stock components are S1, does it mean it only takes S1, or are there cases where it can fit better than stock?

[spare cloud]

It's best you ask in and read pins in #flight-combat-racing for a better understanding of ship components and everything related

[distant tiger]

my Spirit full of Corundum glitched in the Hangar after i called it. i left server otherwise it would be destroyed. afterlogin, the Spirit was empty. And Refinery still shows its full. any workaround ?

[sharp swift]

send back down, bring back up

[distant tiger]

i hope the corundum is not gone 😄 its coming up. i will see in 10 seconds

[distant tiger]

you are the best. it worked. thank you (No Corundum lost)

[sharp swift]

The game rewards patience

You just have to apply it correctly

[regal tide]

Sounds like common sense to me!

Does anyone know if they stopped the caterpillars lift from going fully down and you can decide?

[flint forge]

is it just me or is the ATLS trying to murder more people?

[vivid river]

Tbh i have never had an issue with the ATLS

[mild pumice]

ATLS is OK if you stay away from walls or any obstacles lol. I just use mine to shunt boxes in my personal hangar then park it in the storage bays

[mild pumice]

The open to the ground which makes it a bit easier to see where you're placing boxes and easier to jump in quickly if you need to move a box quickly

[rigid crescent]

you sell it at tdd now in lorville not the admin office

[inland sparrow]

Hey y'all, is the SRV still working for TOWing stuff? (Atmo, QT)

[spare cloud]

Yup

[vivid river]

last i heard qt was havin an issue

[willow tiger]

Anyone know how to split a 32 SCU cargo container?

[spare cloud]

There's only one way to split a container atm, that's giving more cargo than needed for the Supply or Die event and getting back the leftovers

[shrewd loom]

Anyone done salvage in pyro, if so what was you’re experience, I’ve not played for a year and a half so I really wanna explore pyro but at the same time if I could salvage while doing so that’d be cool.

[vivid river]

meh imo

but i think salvo is nerfed atm anyways due to sod

cant find a HH to save my life and all salvo contracts seem to have been downgraded in either size, quality, or both

[regal tide]

I'm at a point that these small changes to ships like the Cat. these Devs don't play the game to even know what we do daily with them to know how to design them better for us. That is the issue

[mild pumice]

Is there an echo or do you just copy paste the same thing in every channel lol

[shrewd loom]

Cool I’ll reconsider the vulture then ty

[vivid river]

allow me to be clear on it
fortune - vulture
salvo heads: 1 - 2
cargo grid: outside - inside
fits in polaris: 2 - 1 (barely)
also i started out with the vult and recl and am a bit prejudice against it already
plus was really hoping for a middle ground between the vult and recl so having another mid size ship did not help my likability to the fortune

@shrewd loom .

[sonic fiber]

Fortune is fine for lazy. Auto eject, dock, sell. No labor needed. They just need to make the vulture a little bigger to be a mid ship

[vivid river]

i would agree to the last part but they both hold and eat the same weight class

plus the vult is bigger than the fortune sadly

[sonic fiber]

I would make the vulture bigger and eject 2 or 4 scu boxes. And like 48 scu grid

Fortune should cost less and be more the intro to salvage

[vivid river]

naw we got 1-2 starters on the way for salvo already -_-

still no large ship

and a buggy false capital ship recl ;-;

[sonic fiber]

I operate solely on what's delivered. 🙂

On the way can mean tommorow or 2 years or never

[vivid river]

oh no its very possible before IAE

but prob at IAE

[sonic fiber]

We will see

[vivid river]

i still want my large ship thou T^T

i hope one comes out IAE and is just a surprise

all the other jobs got a whole slew of em

[sonic fiber]

I'll get a Fortune once they are for sale in game if it's cheaper than a vulture

[vivid river]

they will most def be the same

thats my bet

[sonic fiber]

Well I still might get one. I'm pretty lazy I like to just fill up the ship and go home

I play for like an hour and then I'm done

[vivid river]

i got one cause its a salvo

ima get the new salvos as well once they come out

im just upset on how they are handeling SoD rn for salvo

we just finished up a fight event so there should be a plethora of ship to eat up

[sonic fiber]

Lots of them abandoned around ground poi

I wish it was easier to take them. Too much stuff locked out if you don't own it still

[vivid river]

yea

[regal tide]

How is ICE rare in space?

[orchid void]

fr

[spiral mountain]

are people still hauling like they did before manual loading became a thing, i have a c2 and wondering if missions or commodity trading is the way to go

[humble merlin]

People still do, when it's working

There is auto-loading for trading, missions are full manual

[spiral mountain]

oh fair cool ill give it a go and see what i find

[quiet atlas]

Is ice getting harder to find for mining? did CIG nerf it or its not respawning?

[sacred meadow]

just got a prospector. whats the best laser, material, and place to sell?

[regal tide]

Did they fix the refinery jobs so they go into the Freight cargo in 4.1?

[quiet atlas]

doubt it

mini dancing harmless worms were a more important update

[pearl juniper]

they are working on mining in 4.1 though (hand and vehicle anyway), so it's possible changes to ship mining are coming soon.

[quiet atlas]

The mining bag stacking is getting silly now, the mole can be made to Carry 192SCU CIG need to fix that

[pearl juniper]

they shouldn't have put extra snap points in there if they didn't want people snapping things to them 🤷‍♂️

[quiet atlas]

true but Thats CIG

[pearl juniper]

it does seem like they are working towards enabling bags to be ferried by cargo ship. I mean the ships didn't have those collapsed extra bags before this patch did they?

[storm oxide]

I cannot get my hull c to work no matter what i do i enter the box and it just wont load the cargo

anybody got tips?

[elfin hornet]

Hull c is always broken

[swift flint]

ok, so I haven't done any mining in forever

what components should I be looking at to get some Ice mining done?

helix 1 + 2x focus 3's seems like a good way to go about it?

[drowsy phoenix]

Hoping someone can explain this to me.
The weevil eggs are in the station storage, yet there's still an unload time and instead of (17.5x51) 892.5K they're only paying me 332.6K for them.

[regal tide]

Is ICE only in Pyro?

[swift flint]

yes

and I've had 0 luck finding any in a cluster

[near swallow]

Not all clusters may have ice, but it is in at least some of them. Also, it's possible a cluster might have ice, but it was mined by someone else.

[orchid void]

oke I'm about to transfer a ton of previous refined stuff from my refinery to my c2

I've spawned it from the ASOP

now I'm in my hangar the c2 spawned correctly (weirdly enough)

I have now stored it and the animation is finished

I'll now go to the refinery and take the ores to my c2 then I'll go back to my hangar and retrieve it from there

is that the correct way to avoid the c2 clipping and make me lose 26mil credits?

[quick narwhal]

any work around with the mining station constantly saying processing your request?

[spare cloud]

Relog 🤷 or just ignore the message and keep using the terminal

[quick narwhal]

ill try reloging it wont let me accept my done task

[spare cloud]

You should be more concerned about the cargo being totally unable to be unsnapped. Best is to fresh claim the ship to avoid that.

[quick narwhal]

yea this is all its doing

[spare cloud]

Your cat is stored or in hangar ?

[coral cobalt]

Did you manage to get your completed work orders out? Mine is doing the same thing 😦

[quick narwhal]

nope lol i gave up for tonight

[quick narwhal]

stored

[coral cobalt]

Damn, I have like 200scu of corundum coming out in the next 2 hours, was really hoping to do a run tonight to finish off the weekend on a high note 😄

[spare cloud]

You changed server region too ?

[coral cobalt]

Oh I'll try that. Do I need to pull my ship back up and put it away again after changing region?

[spare cloud]

Always best if the ship is freshly claimed and not pulled out.

[coral cobalt]

Ahhhh yeah changing from aus to asia servers worked thankyou!

pulled one out into each ship, will go empty them into elevators and go back and do another two 😄

(and then go do more mining while I wait for the rest 😄 )

[quick narwhal]

DAM ill try it out lol

[quick narwhal]

That worked sick

[coral cobalt]

Beautiful 😄

[cobalt copper]

heres to hoping the update wont drop too soon

[coral cobalt]

Hah ayeah

Fingers crossed!

[spare cloud]

I have orders for in 140h

[shut elbow]

itll be nice when they fix the hangars eating ships on delivery. was pretty inconvenient having to purchase 2 reclaimers so i could sacrifice one each time i want to pull the one with cargo.

[agile holly]

there's tons

[leaden monolith]

The station is only accepting 19SCU of your eggs. Either the station is basically full or it doesn't buy 32scu crates of eggs.

[hidden garden]

I can understand why, because in this economy 32 scu of eggs would bankrupt you

[inland spire]

does the price of RMC vary? saw a salvaging guide where the price was about 12k/SCU, but I'm getting just 8.5k, should I try selling elsewhere or has the price been lowered globally?

[shut elbow]

you should turn your rmc in along with cmats for priority missions. you can make aroud 3m per hour at a chill pace. i would never sell rmc at a tdd.

[inland spire]

I've been salvaging panels, I don't have cmats

[shut elbow]

ahh. i thought that got nerfed. what do you normally bring in doing that?

[inland spire]

first time selling

[shut elbow]

this shows who pays what, but its sometimes outdated. https://uexcorp.space/

[swift flint]

thanks, very insightful on your part

[mild pumice]

I'd stash the RMC and see if there's a Reclaimer pilot you can team up with and take payment in cmats

[pearl juniper]

I have so far had 100% success with just pulling the ship, manually storing, and waiting for it to fully store before leaving the hangar.

[spare cloud]

I've heard multiple reports of it not working, the only thing that I have never see fail is a fresh claim

[near swallow]

I haven't needed to do fresh claim on a ship, but have been storing the ship after unloading the order. And it worked for multiple orders put, one by one, onto one ship and then unloaded. I did once encounter the other cargo grid bug, where I pulled the ship out and no cargo was visible, but storing and retrieving again fixed that.

I've not actually encountered the stuck cargo bug myself, so maybe things would be fine without the workarounds, but I haven't tested that. I've used the workarounds since I started refining. (Also not using the Mole double bag trick, which seems like it might fall into exploit territory.)

One other bug I have encountered, and have a fix for, is the Mole showing 0/0 SCU. I took the bags off and put them back on and it was fixed. (And I regret taking a couple collapsed bags off since I couldn't put them back on.)

[cobalt copper]

arrived just in time

[proper ridge]

Do we think the 4.1 patch is imminent? I thought it would be near the end of the month.

[cobalt copper]

i submitted all my current orders under the assumption that its next week

ferron exchange

[lime bluff]

I removed the fuel pods from my starfarer gemini and replaced them with three GSX-HP pods. However, I am unable select them in the landing app as an option to fill with fuel when I select the manual option. Are those fuel pods bugged or am I just doing it wrong?

[mild pumice]

most people are expecting end of the month, plus there's still quite a few issues in 4.1 including a blocker to resolve

so frustrating doing these solar hauling missions watching the fuel you put in just disappear when you cross the server boundaries lol

don't think Imma make it

damn that was close (it deleted half a tank on the way)

[rain tinsel]

is anyone else having a problem with eye strain when using the MPUV rear tractor beam? There is this pronounced occlusion effect along with what appear to be random star or colored asterisk patches, really takes a toll on the eyeballs, and this at 162 FPS. Also makes it almost impossible to see as it appears your camera angle is directly down the axis of the beam. I have tried adjusting the Graphics Settings, but it seems there is no way to turn it off.

[loud spade]

Is anyone else having problems with a no rep increase for salvage anymore? I just get stuck with a ton of 5K fee anvil arrow missions which makes my reclaimer worthless and can't seem to ever actually find panels floating around

[mild pumice]

yep something I reported yonks ago, and gave feedback on.

There's an IC you can contribute to if you like, it's been around a while: https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-114341

(not mine)

[inland spire]

any other way to find ships for salvaging besides salvage contracts and killing them yourself?

[mild pumice]

You can check outposts (particularly Pyro) for abandoned ships

[vivid river]

eat your own or a friends ships

[inland spire]

how do you tell abandoned ships from just landed ships?

[blissful wadi]

what should I be looking at by way of loadout for the prospector?

[mild pumice]

There's no tag on them if that's what you mean but if it's been left for a while, shields off (especially those that have floated away a bit) I go for

[inland spire]

Adagio shows no rep at all for me (it is listed on the rep page, but there is no actual rep displayed for it), but I'm getting 20k missions

[mild pumice]

Completing a contract usually unlocks the next tier but there's not an actual rep bar I know of.

Personally I do the tar pits cleanup missions (unverified tab) they pay you and you get free salvage, win win

Just make sure you're gone before the feds turn up lol

[inland spire]

hm, why is my maxlift not working aboard a salvage

it just makes a click sound and doesn't do anything?

also I can't ready a weapon for some reason?

hm, the maxlift is not working on my own ship either 🤔

I just got an alert that I've performed an illegal tow against myself? 😆

I just got a crimestat for fracturing contracted salvage?

is this a normal thing? first time happening to me

[cloud condor]

where can i buy the abrade laser for the reclaimer?

[loud spade]

Ah okay, yea Im not getting anything at all for increases

[inland spire]

is it possible to stack cargo boxes in your personal storage at stations?

like contract cargo is stacked by container size?

dragging boxes on top of each other doesn't seem to work

[rain tinsel]

no there isnt, if you want to get a specific count of each commodity you have you can use the Commodity terminal at the Admin Office.

[sullen rain]

any reason I can't sell these to Orison?

[inland spire]

is there a way to rebind the "R" for rotate in tractor beams? I can't find a binding for that action

[cedar marsh]

They don't buy them.

[crimson mantle]

Those are bought at planetary services, on the other platform

[inner heron]

So I have been doing vaughn missions for a few weeks now, but I want to get into mining. I have 42mil and 2 accounts on 2 different PC's, what are my options?

[vivid river]

UEX can tell you where to sell them,
https://uexcorp.space/

usually TDD or CBD

but most ***-L# admin locations take em too

i.e. HUR-L4 or ARC-L1

[craggy plaza]

Can someone tell me what to do when iam stuck at Precessing your Request?

its on there for a couple of days... but i would like to collect my complete orders

[spare cloud]

Relog, change server region until it works.

[plush sandal]

Is there any use to distortion weapons for salvage?

Maybe like one suckerpunch and one laser repeater so I can kill an abandond ships shield?

Or is it better to just go double laser

[spare cloud]

Best you stick with lasers, and if you need to power down a ship's shields, shoot a door/ramp open, get in, power it down.

[vivid river]

^^^

[plush sandal]

dont you have to shoot through the shields first

so if I wanna strip a large ship my two s1s will take forever lol

[narrow kettle]

I guess I'm a certified miner now, not even once it tapped into red

[vivid river]

Ehh throw a few rockets at it

[spare cloud]

You could use a ballistic fps weapon.

[wooden kraken]

Looking for a place to sale Glacosite (gem stone). Any help will be much appreciated.

[torpid garden]

Hi
Where can you find a lot of stones with ICE for mining in PYRO?

[inland spire]

is there any way to jettison leftover rmc/cmat from vulture's depot?

[vivid river]

unfortunately, no
and every salvo feels this hard

[hoary hinge]

you could claim it.

[inland spire]

how?

oh you mean the entire ship

yeah, figured that already, I was hoping for something less drastic, but lots of problems turn out to be only solvable by blowing shit up

[hoary hinge]

Or just dw about it.
A bit of CM left in the hopper while you're panel scraping means you get 1SCU less out of a run
So what, 35SCU instead of 36?
Not earth-shattering.

[broken flare]

new to game would like to start hauling wondering whats the best way to make money i have the nomad ship

[inland spire]

I've been doing plenty of hauling in a rented Taurus

until you can buy something bigger than that, it's probably better to rent

[indigo patio]

hey - whats the best mining laser head if your an exppert in mining

[vestal ravine]

I suggest you do the direct hauling contracts with said Nomad it's a good way to get used to the game. Build up your credits then in a few months the rental ships can be used. Or you can buy your own cargo but that puts your money at risk.

[indigo patio]

can i do the double pods glitch on the prospector aswell?

[feral belfry]

Hello, anyone want to help crew a reclaimer?

[hoary hinge]

#looking-for-session

[leaden monolith]

To add a bit to what @vestal ravine said. Go up to the space station above whatever city you have as your spawn. Take the small Rookie contracts to deliver back to the city. You can accept multiple at the same time. With the Nomad you could accept 2-3 depending on their size and have it all fit on the grid. Each one is 50K UEC so 100-150K per run.

[unique crown]

Any recommended fittings for a stock Vulture and someone who has ZERO exp with salvaging lol

[feral solstice]

Is copper, ice and other resource spawn shared between different servers?

[hoary hinge]

buy another Abrade
Carry one Abrade on each arm only, don't use any of the other salvage heads (e.g. cinch, trawler)
A tractor on one arm can be convenient
Make sure you have a multi-tool with tractor attachment on you so that you can pull boxes out of the hopper
The "auto-eject" button is a bit finnicky, sometimes you ahve to tap it a few times
For learning the basics, head out into somewhere with asteroids, swap into the scanning operator mode, and start pinging. Any signal response divisible by 2000 is hull panels that you can strip RMC from.

[warped tartan]

What should i upgrade parts on the reclaimer ?

[vivid condor]

yes its shared, if you sit at 1 station there is a good chance you can buy about 8-16 scu in an hour, but sometimes people will snatch it up

[brisk compass]

Hi all, just lost my Member rank after completing a re-evaluation mission. Trying to make sense out of it, could anybody explain ?

[spare cloud]

Did you click the Submit button ?

[brisk compass]

Nope, I completed the task I was asked to do. Should I have clicked submit instead?

[spare cloud]

No, submit is in case you can only deliver part of the cargo, to limit loss rep compared to abandon option

No clue why you lost rep after completion

[brisk compass]

Well, here I am back to being a rookie

Bit frustrated

[orchid void]

There is no best mining head, but the head that allows you to usually break the biggest rocks is the Helix

[orchid void]

You can’t do the clip glitch on the prospector but you can switch the prospector bags with the mole bags and you’ll get more cargo space

Can’t remember how much I think normal prospector is 32SCUs the upgraded one is 48??

[indigo patio]

Thanks for the response. I got the helix 2 on the mule but there are some stones which i cannot break. So is there nothing i can do about it

[spare cloud]

Yes you can. People upped their prosps to 80 and 96 SCUs

[orchid void]

Oh rly? Didn’t know that sorry

[spare cloud]

There are always rocks you can't break alone.
Hell, some rocks require three full crewed MOLE

[orchid void]

Passive/Active modules, using a Sabir on the rock to decrease rock’s resistance mine in a crew

[indigo patio]

Yeah i packed the argo mole sacks on the prospect, then stored m ship and took it bag out. I got the argo bags and the misc pods stack on each other and i achieved 90 scu

[orchid void]

But if it’s too big you’ll probably just need more people with you

[indigo patio]

Ah so it does require more people. I was not quite sure

Well that explains a lot

Thank you very much guys!

[spare cloud]

Mining in a Stanton Lagrange point, I haven't yet came across a rock I cannot mine with Helix[2xRieger-C3 + Surge] and Sabir

45k mass is about the biggest I saw.
Surely I'll find a 70-80k rock at some point, and I have no doubt I won't be able to do shit to it

[hollow sedge]

Is the ROC workflow for selling gems stable in PU right now? Just a case of getting them into the root of the warehouse?

[orchid void]

Carrack cargo bay works fine right? Cause I've read on reddit you can't take stuff out

[spare cloud]

You need to take thing out from the bottom.

Carrack grid stacks 4 SCU high but the opening is smaller than that

[weak tinsel]

[naive vine]

Anyway to avoid the ATLS kill bug?

[mild pumice]

seems OK if you stay away from walls

[drowsy phoenix]

the problem with the carrack is loading/unloading. It'll take you twice as long as almost any other ship just trying to get the shit to fit through the bay doors

[vale vortex]

So far it hasn't killed me this patch so I think if it does it is very rare.

[naive vine]

I havent had the issue before but had it happen twice in the same day

[weak tinsel]

dont summon it in hangar summon it on ground locations
the small pads that dont move
works 100% of the time
but you need to haul the atlas somewhere

[naive vine]

Yeah its fine the first time but then i fly somewhere and try use it again and thats when it kills me

[brisk compass]

Hi all, would you say that salvage is still worth it ?

[lilac magnet]

@narrow kettle hey where should i mine for tin? 😮

[vivid river]

Rn? Imo no not really, cog nerved salvo way to hard to make a profit off normal contracts, it's practically forcing a salvo to do SoD

Maybe after the event is done and CIG reverts their nerf to it

Or munch your own ships with a friend

Only worth rn
Again in my honest opinion

[narrow kettle]

so you ARE the aaron in the shard I am on Try adir, I personally go to bloom, because it's closer to a refinery - but Adir has the "highest" probability of tin with 35%, Bloom only has 22%

[lilac magnet]

my response was "do you like dino nuggies" when u asked lmao

[hollow sedge]

Anyone been to Fuego for Hadanite ROC sessions? If so, is it fairly evenly distributed across the planet, or are there specific areas?

[lilac magnet]

thats why i was pestering you for tin lmao

shakin you down, holding you at dino nug point

[narrow kettle]

oh I didnt even realized

[narrow kettle]

but yeah, try adir or bloom - I was more happy with bloom

[lilac magnet]

word, i will start at bloom cuz its pretty and i have my ships at orbit soon to be starlight once i fly back to pyro

[narrow kettle]

I have a mole if you are interested

[lilac magnet]

thank you, but i just bought a prospector in game for this exact purpose ;D

got it all kitted out

ice breaker paint looks nice

[narrow kettle]

I have no paints for the Prospector

well, now I do - the supply or die paint

[brisk compass]

@vivid river thanks for your answer, that's exactly what I was looking for
I'm willing to explore the gameplay a little bit just to broaden my horizons
Thanks again !

[glad ivy]

Salvage is fun if you go looking for abandoned ships which you can find around many outposts, if Pyro you need to keep your wits about you.

Salvaging panels is incredibly boring and I wouldn't recommend it unless you absolutely have to grind safe money.

I prefer commodity trading to make money, it's as risky as you make it and you can make decent money running cargo of your choice to locations of your choice and see the systems a bit while you're at it

[naive vine]

Is the catarpillar any good as a cargo ship