industrial-professions

[fringe coral]

I know im gona mine tin

100scu costing abt 3mil

U can get tons of ot on some planets u gotta find out

[quartz summit]

thanks

[hoary hinge]

If you still buy at these rates, you scan still make about 35k/SCU profit on the small tin/Ice mission
The issue is that if they've vastly decreased the restock at Magnus/Megumi/Ruin then you're not getting 500SCU, you're getting 5.

Sooo... time to start mining

[fringe coral]

Yes

🤣

Somone asked me if he can buy tin from me 5min ago

That is so much fun

[digital dirge]

hell yeah I did

[fringe coral]

Not u

[hoary hinge]

where might I find data on refining costs? I have done faily minimal mining to date

[fringe coral]

Red monster does have some data sheats

For pyro and 4.0

[fringe coral]

No idea the only refinerys are checkmate, ruin, orbitury

[fringe coral]

Feron ore dynax station does not matter in pyro

[hoary hinge]

I've been out mining with buddies like twice, and they told me "Just use Dymix Solventation" at the time
I didn't look into the cost of refining; is there somewhere I can find a cost/SCU or other metric of each refining method? Or does it vary by what you're refining?

[fringe coral]

It does tell u how much when u wanna start it but yeah its a % of what ur refining i bet

But yeah orbitury and from that u fly to vuur

[pearl juniper]

depends on the value of the goods, and the speed. But super cheap for the stuff you need for supply or die, unless they changed it.

[fringe coral]

Ferron ore dynax best

[hoary hinge]

mkay so if I've got a spreadsheet and I'm comparing profit/SCU, I don't need to consider a significant amount of refinig costs for mining vs the cost to buy the commodities (especially now that they're 20-30k/SCU)

[hoary hinge]

why's that?

[fringe coral]

U get the moust out of it

[pearl juniper]

not really. If I had to guess, a full prospector of tin is probably 2k to refine on the slow method, maybe 4x that on the fastest. Pretty insignificant relative to the mission payouts

[fringe coral]

U go for max profit

[pearl juniper]

it's somewhat significant in normal gameplay when selling the stuff at the TDD, but it's a drop in the bucket in the supply or die event pay scheme

also, max appreciation for anyone who has a spreadsheet for gaming 😉

[fringe coral]

It does not matter tin is now 30k more expancive then quantanizm and the ghance that they change it is low

[hoary hinge]

I've been updating it throughout the day. This is the old version before the commodity patch

Small Pyro is still about 35k/SCU, but the commodity spawn rate at Magnus/Ruin has been dramatically dropped so buying does not seem feasible anymore

[balmy kelp]

Can the atls only pull things? If not, how do i push?

[fringe coral]

Argo atls i buggy as hell

Killed me 5times and bugged my hangar on tje shard forever for a whole day

[quartz summit]

why you recommend gold at daymar when you have more afaik at calliope ?

is there a reason ?

[fringe coral]

Daymar is basic material gold

[quartz summit]

wdym ?

[tough rapids]

what's a good way to use Erkul for non-dps ships. I just bought a c2 Hercules and I want to know what are the components to look for

[balmy kelp]

Was it a bug that i couldn’t push containers/anything with the atls? When i click, it automatically pulls stuff to me

[hoary hinge]

Component HP
Signature
QD efficiency/speed/balance

tbh for a C2 I'd probably just do the QD
And your cross-section makes your mom look slim, so maybe stealth isn't too relevant either

[tough rapids]

TY! okay i'll have to look where the best QD is

[hoary hinge]

The Taurus grid is 3SCU high
Can you fit 4SCU wit the upper box being "off-grid"?

[last karma]

Erebos qd

You can stack a 4th height down the center of the Taurus and boxes off grid around the catwalk above if pressed

I wouldn’t count on putting 6 scu in the back compartment, it’s terrible trying to get them back out. 4-5 max

[near swallow]

I'm curious and searches didn't help, but does anyone know how much profit the people trying to do SoD by buying ice/tin would get for the large (228/228) mission?

[hoary hinge]

Ohh so the missile racks impinge, and you get an extra 14x2x1, not 14x4x1?
And yeah I noticed 1s and 2s fit nicely around the catwalk

[near swallow]

Ok

[hoary hinge]

intel has value of its own

BUT
You can find MrKraken's infographic for SoD and use a site like UEXcorp to find out how much the commodities buy for

it's not hard to build the spreadsheet at that point

I gotta drive home, good luck 👍

[near swallow]

I'm not actually planning to do it that way, I was just curious. I've done one run before the price change. It also so happens I accidently overbought Tin when I had a chance, and have enough ice for a second run I think, plus a couple runs worth of copper I think. (I didn't mean to buy a second run worth, I bought one because it just happened to be available.)

I will be buying a Mole with the money I've already made.

[regal tide]

How are we suppose to do these missions when all the cargo boxes that I have refined are broken and stuck to the cargo grid of the ships it's happened to me each time with different ships?

[rancid epoch]

I was going to ask the same thing.Did you find any workaround for it yet?

[regal tide]

I did not this is wild and stuck a deal breaker can't even do these missions

[regal tide]

Let me ask when it happen to you did you have something else in you're cargo hold and how man refinery did you store in the same ship at 1 time?

My next step is i'm going to soft death the ship

[rancid epoch]

I had nothing else in my cargo. I collected 2 refinery of corrundum in my taurus which is about 161 scu.

[regal tide]

When I only loaded one refining job the last time it was fine I wonder if it's happening when you do multiple at a time

[rancid epoch]

Just found out that it's happening to other people too.So look like I'm gonna wait for cig to fix it

[regal tide]

ya it's nutz

I tried blowing up my ship and the cargo is still being locked

[orchid void]

Where can I mine ice? Also is it dangerous?

(Other than interdictions)

[near swallow]

Pyro. Yes.

[orchid void]

Can I find it at stanton gateway asteroid field? Cause I was scanning and nothing was popping up

[near swallow]

I have no idea. Only real source of uptodate info for mining, is by trying stuff.

[glad ivy]

Stanton Gateway is probably one of the more dangerous places to work imho. Try one of the asteroid clusters that doesn't mention a base in its description

[green hinge]

Mole or Prospector for solo tin mining and which mining heads? Thanks

[craggy tapir]

prospector with mole bags

[green hinge]

how do i get Mole bags, just form another Mole? Can't buys them?

[orchid void]

I think you can buy them at a cargo bay

[orchid void]

do they stay after reclaiming/Storiging etc

[craggy tapir]

Storing yes
Claiming no

[orchid void]

and do you need to manually exchange those or can you apply them from the usual vehicle tab like any other module?

[burnt pelican]

Does that hold as much as a mole

[fringe coral]

The argo is bugged ur lucky that ur alive

[craggy tapir]

Prospector holds 7scu i belive
Mole is 12scu per bag

[earnest halo]

i asked this earlier but i want to ask again, just in case since this is so frustrating to me...
is there really no way to send the load to a station? does it really HAVE to go to a ship? just so i can call said ship out and manuallly move it all

[spare cloud]

Refineries aren't updated to work with freight elevator just yet.

[earnest halo]

:/ sad life

so much extra work, what if u have a mole but no cargo ship to unload into ?

[bitter ferry]

Long long overdue feature

Then you gotta rent one

[earnest halo]

brutal

yeah thats def a missing loop right there

[bitter ferry]

Though if you don't have a cargo ship you're kinda boned anyway

You'll have refined ores but no way to transport them

[earnest halo]

true, but i know some ppl who have only fighters

but they dont mine either

just bounties

[spare cloud]

If you don't have a cargo ship you either rent one or don't refine and sell directly to the refinery

[earnest halo]

darn, for this mission with the needing to refine the tin that would just require renting i gues

i do have a c2 so its not terrible..

[bitter ferry]

Also I just retreived refined ore to my Zeus CL and can tractor them around okay

A couple people were talking about a bug which locks it to the cargo grid earlier

[earnest halo]

that bug is particularly related to autoload, from commodity shop purchases

[bitter ferry]

Aye, they were saying they experienced it with the refinery though

[earnest halo]

oh thats unlucky, guess it can happen to all, think it must just be less with refinery

cuz its happened to me on 80% of my commodity shop auto loads this patch, but none of my refinery jobs

[bitter ferry]

Same, I assumed it was something introduced in this hotfix but idk

[orchid void]

can you find ice only on clusters or also for example on terminus rings?

[frozen creek]

so whats the recommended mining head for the prospector?

[spare cloud]

Definitely Helix if you're looking for the bigger rocks.
Hofstede for the ease of use.
Klein works decently too

[frozen creek]

ooh nice, thank you

[pearl juniper]

Mine in pyro, you can sell many things at the stations with the refineries

[atomic apex]

guys, i got full ice in my c2 but cant hold them with tractor, its getting bugged. how can i fix it? (like its holding and releasing the boxes 10 times per second nonstop)

[knotty dove]

i heard latest hotfix introduced this bug

[atomic apex]

but i bought the cargo before hotfix

its still bugged like hell

is there any solution?

[knotty dove]

🤷‍♂️

[atomic apex]

:(

[fringe coral]

best planet for mining ice ?

[fringe coral]

hi

[minor socket]

if i want to hand in stuff for the small resupply, tin/ice that i've mined, I'm guessing theres no way to spit what the refinery dumps on me? I don't really want to dump 16SCU when 6 would do?

I guess I need something like a nomad? as that can't take the bigger boxes? so it would have to be smaller ones?

[limpid sluice]

When you submit the contract, excess will now be split off to your inventory. So if you put on a 16scu crate when you need 6scu,the remaining 10 will go to inventory

[fringe coral]

rent a cutles black

[minor socket]

awesome, so i've just been overthinking it

[paper cedar]

So I got a C2, yay! but have just unknowingly wasted 50K in loading fees for failed attempts to load some crates in at the commodity shop in Seraphim...I have seen yt vids of this process so thought it worked but it looks like it doesn't? Can anyone confirm? I thought I could purchase 640 scu's worth of waste in 32 scu crates (20x) as the c2 has that capacity but it fails....

[fringe coral]

anyone has an list for evry refine mthod ?

[orchid void]

So I was wondering is it possible (and profitable) to salvage its own ships? For example how much would I do from salvaging my own c2 with my reclaimer?

[spiral mountain]

fly your c2 out to a discrete location, backspace to your station and fly your reclaimer to your body and scrape your c2

[atomic apex]

hi

[orchid void]

but is it more profitable than doing salvage missions/panels?

Also is it me or the c2 gets destroyed pretty often once called from the asop

[spiral mountain]

not sure dont have a c2 but panels are fine for rmc and if you can find abandoned ships for cm

[regal tide]

Is there any word on them fixing this cargo grid locking thing these priority missions cannot be completed by miners with this major bug

[vestal ravine]

I get about 31 RMC scu from the C2.

[orchid void]

and is that a lot (revenew over time)? I'm pretty new to salvaging

[sonic fiber]

Is that where you can't pickup the cargo once it's put down on the grid?

[vestal ravine]

The price for RMC at Orison is about 10.5 k per scu so basically over 300k.

[echo bone]

to upgrade your hauling rank, does it make more sense to do many quick ones or fewer but large ones? Does the ranking system take into consideration the payout size or stuff like that?

[mild pumice]

Rep doubles each rank but the missions size, etc makes no difference so it's best to do missions of your current rank to maximise

[vivid river]

anyone know where i can go to get salvage list for the misc fortune or Vulture?
i wanna know what i can eat with em

[spare cloud]

Anything up to size 4

[vivid river]

was really hopin for a list, im not really all to good at remembering

[spare cloud]

MSR is the biggest S4 ship.

[vivid river]

guess ill just need to make one -_-
no clue what that is nor size comparison to any of the salvage mission ship
i know nough to keep away from 50k
thanks anyways

[spare cloud]

You can make size comparisons on hangar.link or spviewer.eu
Or just check erkul.games, sort ship list by size and look at that

[fringe coral]

if i send 76scu of ice raw into refinery and use feron ore dynax how much would i get out of it ?

[sonic fiber]

It will tell you when you do it

[raven glacier]

is the cargo stuck fixed or shall i leave trying to to play today?

[solar estuary]

Hasn't worked yet for me, havnt even heard anything from CIG about it yet. I just been stealing the goods now till the refineries work

[halcyon aspen]

So it seems like cargo sticking to the grid is a whole issue rn right?

[tall vigil]

I heard that the reclaimer is bugged and only prints 1 scu containers. Can anyone here confirm?

[sharp swift]

last patch was fine, haven't used it this patch yet

might've broken in the hotfix

[regal tide]

I think I found the work around for cargo boxes getting stuck to the grid of the ship that is used to collect completed refinery jobs only do 1 at a time seems to not bug out

[dusky obsidian]

Just tried a single order and it didn't work

[halcyon aspen]

I've been advised to blow up ships and take it out lmao

[orchid void]

What's the best way to use a reclaimer? Nowadays

[craggy tapir]

claw

[slender obsidian]

Anyone looking to make upwards of 250,000+ aUEC per hour as a contracted loader/unloader of my C2?

If so, DM with you IGN and we can make this happen

[fringe coral]

how do i expand the bags

?

[regal tide]

One told me that it works on ships you have manually stored

[spare cloud]

Please use #looking-for-session instead

[regal tide]

FIX CIG or go another month with this EVENT so miners can do these missions!

[regal tide]

WHy aren't completed refinery jobs sent to the cargo freight of the station?

[spare cloud]

Because refineries have yet to be reworked to support freight elevators

[willow plume]

Use a tractor beam of a vehicle (Cutty Black, Nomad, MPUV etc.) to remove them from the grid. It should unlock the boxes.
I just read this, I can't confirm it

[orchid void]

What's the best way to empty a reclaimer? The butt's elevator is just to small for 8 and 16SCUs cargo

[spare cloud]

Print it all in 4 SCU boxes and throw them out through the butt elevator. Simplest way, avoiding the main elevator, which is the biggest pain IMO

[hollow sedge]

Looking for rarest ore. Janalite? Any tips for locating and exploring caves safely?

I'm thinking my C2/Connie loaded with a mule or something bounty ships will ignore? Idk if a cargo box would be worthwhile?
Hopefully my ship isn't destroyed and I can walk inside? Or maybe fury would be enough and let me explore more caves?

[spare cloud]

Afaik Janalite only spawns in Daymar's sand caves

You won't find enough Janalite for a cargo box, but Hadanite and Dolivine, sure.

Good to have one

You'll need one to easily unload the gems into selling location anyway

[hollow sedge]

I saw a reddit mention another location but daymar is my first target.

A little curious if infiltrate prison and go deep in caves triggers any new ores ..

[spare cloud]

Fury is too big to explore caves with. A Pulse would do

Prison only has Hadanite, Aphorite and Dolivine

And it's not Daymar

I would have though that Janalite would be available somewhere else than Daymar with 4.0, but so far I haven't heard about anyone finding it anywhere else.

Tho not many people look for Janalite, so that'd explain it tbf. It's so rare

[coral flume]

I'm planning to mine Copper and Corrundum for the event. I've seen people say there are certain bugs for the refinery? can any drop some tips pleae

please

[hollow sedge]

Sounds like it appears in Any sand caves

[spare cloud]

Check this #bug-hunt-chat message

[spare cloud]

Sounds good better than Daymar only shits

[hollow sedge]

So Connie pulse and back pack should suffice gear wise? Would pulse ping the ore?

[sonic fiber]

Sadly not atls

[willow plume]

You mean the deathtrap from ARGO? 😂

[sonic fiber]

Yep

[spare cloud]

It should be able to yeah

[sonic fiber]

I wonder if they just made the boxes too heavy?

Tin and ice

[willow plume]

I don't need boxes to get killed by the ATLS

[spare cloud]

Try with something else than the ATLS, an actual ship's tractor beam.
Or just check the workaround I shared just above

Which so far has proved to be working

[sonic fiber]

My strategy is to just not play for a while

[mild pumice]

Heads up, just like the fuel bug stuff you salvage on one DGS might not transfer to another, I took two salvage missions and headed back to station and none of the material was saved in the buffer, best to print your boxes on site before you head back

Tried storing and recalling the ship, didn't help

[mild pumice]

has salvaging been nerfed across the board? seems really low returns, I took a Vulture mission, 20k buy in and only gor 3scu RMC and 6scu CM, which I lost anyway due to the above but seems really low?

I know panels got nerfed, I found it's 2.5 large panels to full the buffer now which isn;t too bad really

[willow tiger]

Hey guys, I'm going to go mining Igneous rocks with a prospector. I have a Hofstede head, what module should I use?

was thinking Rieger C3, but unsure

[spare cloud]

Surge is great

[willow tiger]

Thanks man! Will check it out :)

[spare cloud]

Coupled with Sabir gadget if rock is real hard, or Optimax if it's a fairly simple one. That cluster bonus is good

[willow tiger]

What is the cluseter bonus?

[spare cloud]

When the rock is cracked, ores are better grouped together, more chances of rocks only made of one ore.

[pearl juniper]

ohhh. I always wondered what that did. That is handy

[royal hamlet]

Anyone have an erkul suggestion for equipping the MOLE and/or a good resource for understanding mining? I am going to crew the MOLE and I'm willing to purchase a Prospector to solo if it's easier that way instead of kitting the MOLE for either/or.

[spare cloud]

Look at regolith.rocks to make mining loadouts 👍
And you can use the chart below to have an idea of what that means and what you'll be able to do.

[royal hamlet]

Thank you. Since I'm new to mining, is there any particular "thing" to look out for or be aware of when creating a new loadout? I have seen people mention "big rocks" and the MOLE being able to break them, so I want to make sure I'm well equipped and I didn't miss a key aspect.

I'll definitely take a look. I'm hoping to buy the gear needed today and give it a whirl.

Also, in your opinion, would having both a MOLE and Prospector be redundant? One for crew, one for solo?

[spare cloud]

MOLE is more capable, even solo. But it can be a hassle if you're easily pained by all the running around.

So having a Prospector is good for that. Else, just a MOLE is good

[royal hamlet]

o7 I'll stick with just the MOLE for now. Much appreciated!

[young ginkgo]

hey there, i am looking to go mining in Pyro with the MOLE, is there a chart where i can see what asteroids have what en what the most valuable thing to mine is ?

[hollow sedge]

what mining heads should i put on my mole

[hollow sedge]

dont buy the missions, jsut do panels

[mild pumice]

Need cmats

[hollow sedge]

oh, theres salvage in pyro that pays ye and aint illgel for CFP

[mild pumice]

I've done the panels already and stashed the RMC

[hollow sedge]

or alteast i think there is

[mild pumice]

I'm hostile with CFP lol

[hollow sedge]

oh

well dont be

[mild pumice]

You don't get a choice as soon as you do one supply or die the other goes hostile

[hollow sedge]

oh well

do illegal missions

[mild pumice]

I did HH with my alt as my main is CFP

I've been cleaning up abandoned ships otherwise, it's fairly decent

[spare cloud]

Scroll up 4 messages

[hollow sedge]

idk what it is saying

[ripe grail]

How much do yall usually make from a couple prospector mining runs(not for supply or die)

[remote pivot]

what deposits have tin in them?

[hoary hinge]

I've got maybe a dozen hours of salvage under my belt, but it's entirely panel scraping because that's what makes decent money
With SoD I obviously need to collect CMs too, which I've never done before

I took one of the 1000aUEC Arrow missions, scraped it, got into fracture mode and managed to break it, but for the life of me I've got no idea how to suck up the fractured parts for CM.
How do?

[mild pumice]

Right alt + S to munch after fracture

[hoary hinge]

Thanks man.

Do you know what the keybind is called so I can bind it to my sticks?

[mild pumice]

Not off hand sorry

[hoary hinge]

Yeah no worries, I'm not at my desk anyway; I'll figure it out tonight.

[spare cloud]

For any keybind if you know what keys it's using, you can just try to bind anything to it and it'll show the full list of what's already bound to that key.

For stuff with a modifier like here, only the actual key counts. So if you try to bind something to S, it'll show you everything bound to it, including that.

[hoary hinge]

Yeah I've done basically zero messing with KB/M rebinding, so I didn't know about that; and you can't bind modifier+joystick button.

[regal tide]

I did that doesn't work

[spare cloud]

What vehicle did you try ?

Please don't tell me ATLS

[regal tide]

The only thing I have been told is you want to manually store the ship you are going to use to put the cargo into then it won't bug out

[regal tide]

ARGO tractor

MPV

i'll do another video on it

[spare cloud]

Yes, this seems to work good so far.

[regal tide]

just sucks I have been mining for these missions for days and now My M2 has a shit ton of cargo in there I can't do anything with

[hoary hinge]

It's becoming just a good habit to stow your ship before leaving your hangar

[regal tide]

Why are the ships just being stowed the min. we leave a hanger I thought they were suppose to persist

Also we shouldn't be putting refined jobs in a ship should go to the Freight cargo

[hoary hinge]

Excellent question; I think they said "Yeah our asset cleanup is a bit agressive right now, oops"

[halcyon aspen]

Just got myself a prospector, what should I equip it with head wise/other stuff?

[mild pumice]

It's a new feature added in .1 probably as a dirty workaround for ships getting stuck in hangar doors and falling through the floor

[mild pumice]

Something they didn't get round to implementing at the time of the cargo changes, likely on backlog until the next mining refactor

[hoary hinge]

though that's still happening too

[mild pumice]

Hofstead for ease of use or helix for the tougher rocks. As for modules I'm not sure what's best these days but I'm sure it was discussed today if you scroll up...

[hoary hinge]

this feels like it should be really quick to implement though; it's kinda frustrating

[mild pumice]

It's probably more complex than we realise, small changes can affect a lot of systems

My feeling is that the pressure of citizencon and getting 4.0 out the door last year meant a lot of things were backlogged

[hoary hinge]

Sure, but it seems like it should be easy; simply add the station storage to the list of locations it can deliver to, same as shop terminals.
I'm sure there's some legacy function that makes it really hard and they have to finish mining refactor to do it
But like...

[mild pumice]

Just look how copy/paste IAE was, but I'm going a bit off piste now lol

It also depends on team availability, the devs responsible for that area might have been tied up on other things

[hoary hinge]

Or they got joker carded; yeah

[hollow sedge]

Janalite found first try. Just trying to navigate to it.

[hollow sedge]

Daymar Cave under bounty lead me too it. Got 6 pieces. There any mining tricks for hand mining or does that only apply to larger rocks and ships?

Better yet there a way for me to record this location so I can return and check it later??

[mild pumice]

Not yet, other than using two or three points of reference and compus bearings/distances

Example 270 degrees for 17km from HDMS xxx

[open plaza]

Can you put other cargo on the outside grid of the fortune?

[agile shard]

yes

[open plaza]

Man I'm still debating wether I want go Prospector,Fortune or Vulture

[halcyon aspen]

Get the vulture if anything. The fortune is meh

[hollow sedge]

left my hover bike inside for now

Do we know when or how ores generate?

[open plaza]

The only thing that speaks to me with the fortune is the ease of access from the outside and the fact I already got a ccu to it

I kinda want to get into mining but I never really managed to?

I feel like it would be more fun long time since salvage can be quite ... mundane?

[mild pumice]

With the further nerfs to salvage the Vulture is the way to go, anything less than 2x abrade feels like it takes forever

I was running stock loadout 2x cinch earlier and I wanted to kill myself after 10 minutes

[ivory fractal]

Does anyone have a commodity trading website that takes into account the Hull C and cargo loading docks?

[hollow sedge]

5 pieces of the jana got me around 100k at seraphim. Kept 1 for research. Unless I can game the ore gen it doesn't seem worth it really to gather with contracts in competition...

[coral flume]

Am I better off sitting on my refined goods until the sticking to cargo grid issue gets fixed? Or just chance it?

[solar estuary]

so far I haven't had sticky cargo if you claim your ship at the refinery you want to get. then get the cargo on the ship then retrieve it for the FIRST TIME!!! As long as you don't retrieve your freshly claimed ship until after the refinery jobs, it seems to be fine. Can test it out with a small job first if you want to make sure

[slender obsidian]

Guys, Hull-c missions, please help me, the cargo lady keeps telling me there is a problem, then the problem is sorted, and then another problem, is it certain missions which are bugged?

[ripe grail]

bug, its currently not worth doing hauling missions with the hull c

too many bugs with it

[dusky obsidian]

Successfully collected refinery orders two times with this.

[simple lintel]

Hey guys, I’m a total newbie with the ambitious to start mining ice in Pyro. Any tips on where to look for it?

[mild pumice]

The outer areas of the system where it's colder

At least that's what the designers said but I wouldn't be surprised if you could mine it from the sun lol

[simple lintel]

Thank you

[mild pumice]

Deep in the ring of Pyro VI might be a good place to start, should be reasonably safe if you go far away from the nearest OM

Then it's just a quick hop to ruin station to refine

[simple lintel]

Thank you

[weak tinsel]

since there was a new char selection and stuff did my previous refinery orders got voided?

[spare cloud]

Yep

[weak tinsel]

af

had like 32scu corundum due to parent ores

[flint forge]

are the bigger salvage locations worth their price?seeing as the arrow locations are 5k to be bought but dont really get you 5k worth of matherials

[hollow sedge]

what is a surge and sabir

[spare cloud]

A module and a gadget

[cobalt copper]

do the moles mining modules still randomly fall off sometimes and the windshield of the center turret scratch up to the point that its basically opaque?

[hollow sedge]

i cant use gadgets

it took me 30 minutes to almost use one

my hands make it impossible to adjust it

[vivid river]

Only if you salvo both rcm and cm, but i would also rip any guns, missiles, and components (if the ship lets you) be warned tho most if not all Stanton areas I've been to wont let me use my handhelds but the ships tractor beam works fine
personally id do the risky salvo missions as the just straight up pay you

It used to be much better -_-

[flint forge]

i've only seen the pay this to get claim, and i do try to fully salvage, tho weapons did not feel worth the time to pull them in, and i used the ship beam to move the arrows out with me

you have to pay 5k for a arrow location but you only get like 4k worth of materials from them

[hollow sedge]

do illegals or cfp salvaging

[flint forge]

i'll leave salvage to later then

[deep bison]

I tried doing Some hand mining, and I've got some Hadanite shards, where do I sell these and how? do I need to throw them onto my freight elevator?

[glad ivy]

What is CFP salvage? I've done a couple of R&R contracts but don't seem to go anywhere

[vivid river]

Citizens for Pyro if I had to guess

[glad ivy]

That's as far as I'd gotten... More meant how to make them available and what they involve:)

[vivid river]

Yea the ships used to be bigger per mission lvl but they nerfed it way to hard imo

But I think its temp due to SoD goin on since you can make back a stupid amount

[ripe grail]

Is this a good haul for 3 prospector runs?

[orchid void]

I usually do not refine anything that isn't gold, taranite, quantanium and bexalite. As long as they haven't changed prices there's no point in refining/picking borase and laranite (and all the rest)

[ripe grail]

Oh, i was told borase was decent to take, I already know about the good ones. Titanium only there cause I had some

[orchid void]

they might have changed some prices ehh haven't mined lately I used to mine a lot in 3.23/24

[ripe grail]

so i hear theres a bug with cargo getting stuck and that you need to follow steps to make sure it doesnt get stuck in grid, anyone know what steps so when i sell my ores i dont get screwed

[open plaza]

I just filled up my prospector what do I now to process it at the refinery?

do I unload the bags

or store the ship?

[sonic fiber]

Store the ship

[wintry mango]

Is there any good ROC mining spots around ARC?

[pearl juniper]

or land on a pad and run inside to start the job. It doesn't have to be stored

[tough rapids]

where can I see different station's specializations in ore?

looking for a spot where Tin is good

[pearl juniper]

the refinery terminal should tell you. I don't know if that data for Pyro is listed on any of the web sites

[royal hamlet]

Has anyone run a mining loop where you swap your refinery bags for empties and have a buddy cargo haul to the refinery, so you can continue mining?

[pearl juniper]

not possible, there's no way to refine without a mining ship. Maybe would be possible if he used a mole as the "cargo ship", but then why not just fill it up the normal way?

[flint forge]

great i land at the place i need to drop off and i explode........

[vivid river]

Mining bags a screwed due to them heavily clipping through storage grids in ships and the cargo elevator

So less you salvage or steal them and never properly store them ain't no way to actually acquire more bags

Be a good loop otherwise

[royal hamlet]

Ah ok. I have yet to do any mining so I'm not familiar with the process. I'm still trying to figure out how to best kit the MOLE then mine for the event.

I was hoping that the RAFT could compliment the MOLE since they both carry 96 SCU. That would be fun.

[glad ivy]

Does the RAFT get around the clipping bags? No floor to clip through? Or do they just fall off like ripe plums

[royal hamlet]

I haven't tried carrying bags with the RAFT, so I wouldn't know. But the RAFT is very easy to load larger SCU creates (8/16/32 are best).

[stone bolt]

Is it just me or did ice become rarer? Some very productive areas these last few days are turning up barren

[valid lintel]

Hey guys, does anyone know what planet I should be hanging around at for salvaging in vulture

Or any specific salvaging contracts to be looking out for to make good credits

I was doing the clean up missions around yela and they pay pretty well… but thought it give salvaging a go round pyro

[leaden monolith]

Go to the refining station,

Claim your cargo ship (insurance claim)
send your refinery jobs to the cargo ship
retrieve your cargo ship
rinse and repeat for the next load

DO NOT retrieve your ship before you have sent the refinery job to it.
DO NOT fly your cargo ship to the station and store it.

I don't mine this patch but someone else I relayed this to has had success 3 times now. Individual results may vary

There is also talk of only doing one completed refinery job at a time

[tall karma]

I heard as long as you store it before leaving your hangar it will not break the cargo boxes

[leaden monolith]

Finally I'm repeating what someone else posted so no credit to me

[tall karma]

Most people just get in the elevator and let the station autostore the ship.

Apparently not a good idea

Not speaking from experience

[leaden monolith]

All I can say Patch is the person who has followed the above had issues when storing the ship. And individual results may vary after all it is SC 🙂

[ripe grail]

Apparently the games not even supposed to auto store it, it's a bug

[leaden monolith]

My advice would be to try it with your smallest refinery job so if it doesn't work you haven't lost too much. Although any loss isn't good

When I run trading routes in my Raft I park it with its' arse towards the elevator. So easy to unload and load if you have stock in the local but if you have to go buy that ship storing bug is a big PITA

[royal hamlet]

Do you run into issues unloading 1 SCU crates that are stacked on the RAFT? I've had an engine blow up twice because I couldn't get the SCU on the top layer off, so I moved the one below and then BOOM!

[vivid river]

If you want risky salvo hang round Yela, Crusader
Most if not all risky contract from Stanton hang round yela , no clue for Pyro

[quiet atlas]

damn mining ice in a mole it a pain its floats around lol

[royal thistle]

i cant sell my refined ore cause its stuck to the grid and it wont let me sell from the ship when its stored. any work around?

[dusky obsidian]

#industrial-professions message this has worked for me about 6 or 7 times so far

[quiet atlas]

if after storing ur ship and recalling it its still stuck to the ship grid its gone, its bug that was fixed but seems to be back, IT SUCKS ive had it, only way to get rif of the cargo id blow ur ship up

[dusky obsidian]

but once it's on there i don't think theres a fix

[royal thistle]

thanks boys

so if i bring the ship and store it to get my ore it shouldnt happen?

instead of claiming it

[dusky obsidian]

here's a step by step by step instruction

[leaden monolith]

I don't use the Raft for hauling contracts. I was talking about trading commodities. Sorry for any confusion. The smallest crate I will put on the Raft is 8scu. It just works so well with 32scu crates.

[karmic sleet]

does the Mole work properly with crew now if there is a pilot in the pilot seaat?

[regal tide]

What's the benefits of increasing extraction power?

Did they change what the Pioneer is going to do?

Will salvaging always be this disintegration seems they are settled on that functionality since they are building new ships around it I thought we would be using a laser and cutting apart ships then grinding the pieces has that gone out the window now

[earnest halo]

im salavaging a polaris and after about 50 SCU of scraping it just stopped working and now only says 0 cscu/s

is that intentional that it doesnt let you get that much from one ship

i got about 50 SCU so im wondering if thatsl ike a limit or somethin

and now the claw arm just says error..

what the heck happened lol..

[native bluff]

Error?😂

[earnest halo]

is this not normal?

[wintry mango]

About the increased prices on copper/coro, is that also when you sell the refined materials to vendors?

[orchid void]

check uexcorp to see for each commodity who buys it and for how much

[wintry mango]

Ah, didnt know of that one

[toxic citrus]

Just to confirm, can you stack mining gadget effects on a rock?

[cobalt copper]

whats the best way to load/unload ore pods in cargo elevators and cargo grids in general?

[ripe grail]

no

[vivid river]

is bug, im not sure how to fix that due to not havin it in a long while but try either stowing the ship or changing shards

[vivid river]

i belive things were only added, that being it is now a mobile base as well

[runic flint]

Any salvaging experts here right now? I'm looking for help with salvaging ships in Pyro. I was doing Headhunter salvaging contracts, the 8k metal scraps on planets, and the 1k fee Arrow ones. But as soon as I leveled up my rep rank with HH, the Arrow contracts stopped showing up, and I'm left with only the planet side hand salvaging ones that pay 8k. I was hoping I'd start getting bigger ships to scrape and munch. Should I not bother with salvaging in Pyro? I need to find big ships so I can do Supply or Die.

[vivid river]

havent done salvo in pyro would like to know this outcome too

[willow tiger]

Anyone know the best refinery to refine Tin?

[sharp swift]

https://regolith.rocks/tables/refinery

no location has been reported to have a bonus for tin, if any exist

[willow tiger]

Appreciate the resource, very useful!

[runic flint]

Just did a small salvage supply run for the event. As soon as the contract completed, I got more headhunters salvaging contracts to populate my mobiglas!

[willow tiger]

No Tin so far on Fuego, but LOADS of Hadanite

[orchid void]

So what's best to mine/refine right now (other than tin and ice)?

I know quantanium + T1 materials those are a constant

but should I go for copper and conundrum too?

[ripe grail]

Only if you plan on doing the supply or die missions, otherwise it's still just gold or quant

[orchid void]

alr ty

[orchid void]

I'm also looking at this site for minerals and locations and I see in the S tier two new ones, Stileron and Riccite that are only found in pyro

I guess those are still worth going for? (Haven't mined yet in 4.0)

[cobalt copper]

do mole mining head modules still randomly fall off?

[pearl juniper]

randomly? No. They will come off if you explode a rock too hard though.

[late sinew]

Will there be a handheld scanner attachment for the multitool?

[cobalt copper]

at least in 3.23 and 3.24, they randomly did that too when exploding a rock in the green zone

[pearl juniper]

ahh. Not in my experience so far, although I have only done a few mining sessions so far in this patch.

that hasn't happened to me... yet

[cobalt copper]

and with modules for 60k aUEC that always cost me alot of money

the modules didnt actually get destroyed, they just fell off without warning

if you noticed right away you could pick them up again given they hadnt drifted off into space yet

[willow tiger]

Anyone want 2mils worth of Quant?

[burnt storm]

So for fortune is the abrade still the go to?

[wintry mango]

Should be, the Cinch gives more materials but not enough to be worth the extra time it takes

[burnt storm]

yeah, by numer the small size, but much higher speed and slightly higher efficiency seems like it might be like usable but yeah it did take forever to get 7scu of RMC lol

[wintry mango]

Yeah, and the Trawler have to much loss of efficiency and collecting speed to warrant its higher area

[mild pumice]

I think on both the Fortune and Vulture it is, I scraped a panel with 2x cinch and then 2x abrade the amount was like 4scu vs 4.5scu and the time taken was twice as long so not worth it

cinch only useful for drawing pictures - for the 2x time I'd expect a significantly higher yield else over all you're better off with faster scraping and hitting more panels/ships

[burnt storm]

Also what the go to size 1 QT drive these days?

it looks like atlas is a great balance of high speed, some efficiency, and a good cooldown time

[coarse stag]

I’m using a Drift (stealth) on my Avenger to try and keep my emissions down when using it but the Atlas makes sense if you’re not concerned about that.

[orchid void]

What are some good locations to mine for a solo Mole?
I've been doing a run in Calliope and I've found some pretty nice rocks problem is there are winds and my ship is moved around

[cobalt copper]

pain

[dapper mesa]

h

Hey, how are you supposed to loaad the polaris cargo bay at a space station if you get kicked over to a docking port?

[mild pumice]

You can't, Stanton stations have maximum Large size hangars and docking ports with no external cargo facilities

Well you could use autoload for commodities when stored, that's it

The 3 main Pyro stations have an XL hangar but you have to store your ship first by the docking port and then call it to the hangar, the same applies at Orison btw

[dapper mesa]

That's better than nothing I suppose

[pallid flicker]

Wheres the best spot to find abandoned ships for fracturing/Disintegrating?

[orchid void]

I've heard there's abandoned ships at pyro gateway

not sure though, there also are often ships near moon's bunkers

[mild pumice]

I found ships around the Pyro Stations and outposts but they get cleaned up a bit aggressively now, especially at stations. Best thing to do is the contracts in Stanton and haul the boxes to Pyro

[agile shard]

Do Argo mining bags bought from refinery decks function when attached to a prospector, or do I have to get them off an actual MOLE? I know they're a pain in the ass to get out of freight elevators but I can handle that, just need to know if they work yet or not.

[proud pumice]

Is it possible to refund from removed ore bags yet?

I mean, can I have a buddy park his cargo ship full of bags, take a prospector or more or and fill it, come back to the cargo ship and swap the full bags for empties? Then once the cargo ship is full, fly it to a refinery and get more bags while the team keeps mining?

[ornate halo]

Forget that- with the latest modification, Copper/Corundum are selling at 10.5-11k at Orison and Lorville, which given their relative abundance, is FUCKING NUTS

You can fill up in copper/ corundum within a cluster or two, haul back to a refinery and cycle back

[ornate halo]

You can do that- theres a trick to get them from your storage into the elevator: https://youtu.be/9oxG9VlzN1o?si=R1H9f5ty-mYdUQap

IF you claim your prospector, they revert back to MISC bags tho. Theres an IC report about that

[ornate halo]

Not quite the way you envision. You currently need to refine from a mining ship- and IIRC the only ship other than Mole/Prospector that can carry ore bags is the Raft.... so you could offload your full bags for empties, store them on the Raft, have him fly it back, then shove fulls onto another mining ship for refining. Its just easier-and faster- to shuttle back and refine it yourself. Use a pad if you want to save a little tim

[agile shard]

Did that earlier but it showed 0 SCU in the HUD and refused to mine anything. Wasn't sure if it was the 'normal' 0SCU bug or if bags from a refinery deck didn't work.

and yea, couldn't get them to save to the loadout doing the usual VLM trick

Considering the massive mining/trading event they have going on, this is fuckin paaaainful

[proud pumice]

Damn. O well. Ty for the reply

[ornate halo]

OTOH- cycle copper/corundum/tin fast- sell quick at a TDD and buy a mole quick 🙂

[proud pumice]

I had the 0 SCU bug when I stored my mole and it said it was "on the pad". I flew away from the station, requested a new pad and restored. Worked for me and my ship had its ore back

[ornate halo]

a prospector of Corundum/Copper will sell for about 300k a run

you can cycle through them fast- Clio has Corundum everywhere- CRU-L5 drops nothing but copper

Tin is even more ridonculus. Just for cash, I'd go to Pyro and make the run to Adir for tin. Even if you just sell it at a TDD, its 23k per scu at Checkmate.... more if you hunt ice.... but thats like printing money

[tough rapids]

for the MOLE can I eject my Cargo pods and used the collapsed pods to fill up more?

[humble merlin]

How long does it take to process ice into pressurized ice?

[ornate halo]

Its like a normal refining job... I dont think theres any special time. You lose alot tho.

[regal tide]

I wish when we scan a rock even all the broken pieces it can scan all of them all at once

[potent plaza]

do any of the orbital platforms around planets in staton have refinerys

[pearl juniper]

no, and even if you could there's no way to refine or sell the ore without it being attached to a mining ship

[pearl juniper]

no, lagrange point stations only. Mostly just the L1/L2 stations, although I think some of the others do as well. Oh, and the gateway stations.

[potent plaza]

now the real question does the pyro gateway also autoload?

[pearl juniper]

from the refinery? They all do. That's the only way to get material out of the refinery.

[potent plaza]

im talking about onto a ship

sure you can refine the ore and it put into the station invintory

[pearl juniper]

no, you can't

[potent plaza]

rip

[pearl juniper]

you can ONLY load it onto a ship from the refinery

hopefully at some point you have the option to load it to the station, but at the moment you cannot

[potent plaza]

so that would mean they removed the ability to cause it was set to be refined then sent to the station then loaded onto ships but why remove the ability to hold it in storage at a station? not everyone has a cargo ship along side a prospector

[pearl juniper]

that was never an option

before the cargo patch last summer it was load to ship, because that was the only way to get it. And the never updated the mining loop to work with the freight elevators.

[potent plaza]

ill have to take your word, i feel like there was the ability but mining was a very short touch in the past for me.

[pearl juniper]

Yeah, I wish there was. Especially in Pyro where you can sell a lot of your mined goods at the station where you refine them, you actually can mine, refine, and sell without a cargo ship. Except that you need it as an intermediate place to stick the cargo.

hopefully soon. It seems like such an easy thing to implement. But a programmer I am not. There may be some technical reason why it was skipped (the refineries being old code that were not easy to update for the freight elevators, maybe?) I don't know.

[potent plaza]

id image it simple enough to simply add the station as a destination point in the display lkike how you buy materials or parts for ships

[regal tide]

I'm not quite understanding the lifts they did on the caterpillar it would have been great if the whole cargo section of it came down so you could load it in easy and the top it off is that all they worked on no components within the ship it's getting concerning that they do little at a time on Legacy ships😥

[outer ridge]

Grim hex gives you an XL hangar!

[rich root]

Guys need some clearence here , the mole seems to have 24 bags but only Uses 8 of them . Do i just have to take them off to Use the other ones or is that an not working Feature?

[tidal gust]

I do have the same question, I done a session with friends bringing an hauler with us, if you manually detach the cargo under the mole you can see other cargo pod compressed under the main ones, we was not able to make them work though.
After we unloaded the main one the cargo count was 0/0 scu.
Anyone knows how to use the extra 16 pods?

[rich root]

Yeah well thats weird on the rsi side it says you have to jettison the cargo but i dont know if thats even a thing atm

[tidal gust]

I tried and the key bind simply does not work

[rich root]

Maybe its not a thing at the moment becourse ships like Expanse are not in the game

[tidal gust]

it would still make sense to haul the raw mats to a refinery

[supple lava]

Is it right that hauling contracts for Red Wind Linehaul have all moved from Stanton to Pyro now?

[raw shell]

a little confused on the resupply mission in pyro. I have ice and tin in the refinery, how do I do the turn-in? I can't find the mission marker in the station

i'm at checkmate

[craggy tapir]

Just send it down in the freight elevator

[raw shell]

so I have to unload it from the refinery, to a ship, then unload it from the ship to the elevator?

[craggy tapir]

Yes

[raw shell]

ah ok thank you very much

[quartz vessel]

Hm...does mining pay?

[raw shell]

26million for this contract

[knotty dove]

ROC miners beware: Daymar and Aberdeen will become very dangerous when Valakkar(Sand Worm) gets ingame😁

[orchid void]

When

[knotty dove]

soon

[late sinew]

WTF!

[velvet pasture]

would you guys say 1 mil for 24scu of corundum is a fair value in this economy?

someone offered to pay

[sharp swift]

41.6k/scu? yeah that seems fair

double what it vendors for I believe

You could set your own price and be greedy

[velvet pasture]

i could but

ramadan

how do you usually do trades like these? buyer pays first, then I deliver?

[sharp swift]

Zero idea, haven't done it myself, just seen people say they are setting their own price

I would assume upfront payment, maybe 70% upfront and 30% later?

as for how...party up and let them into your hangar and use the freight elevator?

[velvet pasture]

yeah i made a party, just first time im ever selling something this way

[sharp swift]

you'd prob have to go in your largest hangar, call up your smallest ship, request ATC to open doors (but don't exit), and let the buyer in that way

[velvet pasture]

they can just call it down into their own warehouse from my hanger

i believe

[sharp swift]

oh right, right

yeah, easy peasy

[knotty dove]

do like this buyer pays half you call goods up player pays rest and he can store the goods

or if its bigger quantities do a process for smaller amounts multiple times

[velvet pasture]

its just 24scu, so 3 8scu containers

[knotty dove]

one container at time so trust is build

[sharp swift]

yeah, good idea

[velvet pasture]

ty ty

[dapper mesa]

So I stored my Polaris at a station, but when I go to the commodities terminal I can't buy anything when it's set as the inventory location. Is that normal?

[velvet pasture]

click other options until you see your ship model appear in the middle

[knotty dove]

yeah a bug

[dapper mesa]

I think I got it now. Even when stored, it still takes time to load? It gave me a timer

[velvet pasture]

yeah

[knotty dove]

yep, you used auto load feature

[velvet pasture]

sometimes bugs out for me and doesnt give a timer, so i wait for a while just incase

[dapper mesa]

Alright, good to know.

[knotty dove]

man i got tired of this supply or die event

[dapper mesa]

I just want to get some quick credits

[knotty dove]

got 56mil out of it

[velvet pasture]

he ended up just paying it all upfront

easy stuff

once again struggling to unload the starlancer

[knotty dove]

how its easy?

[velvet pasture]

ill show you how one sec

https://tenor.com/view/pod-podrick-payne-game-of-thrones-smug-smile-gif-14127964

[knotty dove]

oh that i usualy deal with 32SCU containers

[velvet pasture]

yeah i got what i got from before the patch for copper and corundum

these things refuse to come out

once i can get ONE out, they all come out easily

which i finally managed now

[willow tiger]

Anyone found planets to mine Ice?

[velvet pasture]

yela?

[willow tiger]

pressurized Ice?

[velvet pasture]

absolutely no idea, yela is the ice moon

[willow tiger]

I thought it was a new resource 🤔

[velvet pasture]

pressurized i assume is after you refine it?

[willow tiger]

Ice I guess, yeah xp

[velvet pasture]

idk why im answering, someone knowledgable should answer sorry

[sharp swift]

Pyro only, space only

[willow tiger]

all good, I appreciate the help :)

Okay, thanks Ewo

Rings of 4, right?

[velvet pasture]

there ya go, i was talking out my ass

[sharp swift]

furthest from the sun

[willow tiger]

Thank you kindly :)

[willow tiger]

and appreciate you trying 😄

[knotty dove]

Loading 8 32 SCU boxes into SL MAX is for the brave

[velvet pasture]

16scu is the max ive attempted

[knotty dove]

6 32SCU are easy but 2 additional are on unsecured floor in rear bay and there is a glitch making loadin/unloading kinda dangerous

[velvet pasture]

yup, 14 x 16scu

12 are secured, but the last 2 are glitchy

[dapper mesa]

Oh jeez, I forgot that the gateway station towards earth exists...

[knotty dove]

nope

there is no gateway towards earth ingame atm

[dapper mesa]

But the station is there, isn't it?

I just realized it stocks stuff I'm looking for

[velvet pasture]

you mean magnus gateway?

[knotty dove]

nope

[velvet pasture]

Im pretty sure Earth is in the Sol system

since Sol means Sun

there's no gateway to Sol rn

[dapper mesa]

That's exactly what I mean

[knotty dove]

he might have mistaken Terra for earth

[velvet pasture]

Ah makes sense

[knotty dove]

question do outpost freight elevators work?

[sharp swift]

they're supposed to. will they? flip a coin

[velvet pasture]

if its heads, it wont work

and both sides of the coin are heads

if it somehow lands completely vertical, then it works

thats my experience with cargo elevators on outpost

[sharp swift]

yep

[craggy tapir]

Sol is Hella close to vanduul too

Stanton>pyro>cano>davien>sol

[velvet pasture]

yeah

and squadron 42 was taking place in Odin and Vega i think??

so if they already build those systems

maybe theyll make a connection from vega to sol

[velvet pasture]

unless this is the official, unchangeable route map

[craggy tapir]

Its just an easy map

Better than thos clusterfuck tbh

[glad ivy]

This is very cool, thanks for sharing. Look how much of a nexus Pyro is!

[craggy tapir]

Pyro was planned to be a Nexus for small crafts

But CIG moved away from jumppoint size restrictions

[glad ivy]

You think they will go back to that or nah? Either way I like that it is placed as an easy shortcut for so many routes

[craggy tapir]

Dont think so

Cuz if you wanted from stanton to pyro
You would jump from
Stanton>terra>hadrian>castra>pyro

[spare cloud]

[glad ivy]

I don't get it

[spare cloud]

There's nothing to get, it's just a version with no background

That I prefer over the one above

[craggy tapir]

Imma save that one

[sonic fiber]

Found an abandoned vulture and completed a small supply mission. Yeha

[mild pumice]

they kinda fixed it, the end box has a slight gap now so you can easily remove it (both in the back and sides) although it still sufferers from the phantom geometry on the vehicle area that yeets boxes around

[knotty dove]

you just admited biggest issue is still here: it still sufferers from the phantom geometry on the vehicle area that yeets boxes around

[mild pumice]

Yeah when I first read that I was thinking 8x 8scu boxes

The last 2 32s are a pain I did that during supply or die and it's LOLz to unload

[sullen sentinel]

How does outfitting the vulture work? i see everyone saying to use 2x abrade heads, but it comes stock with 2x cinch, 1x abrade and a tractor. Do i just replace 1 cinch then?

[mild pumice]

yeah replace 1 cinch, make sure the middle two of the 4 are abrade, I think it goes from top to bottom tractor, abrade, abrade, cinch (that way the main two will be abrade)

otherwise you could put both abrade on the same side and be like doh!

[sullen sentinel]

Thank you for the clarification!

[atomic apex]

can argo raft carry and deliver mining pods to refinery? or is it just a regular cargo ship?

[pearl juniper]

just a regular cargo ship. only mining ships can deliver to the refinery (at the moment)

I have been suggesting people start refinery jobs from the pads to save time, but aparently that doesn't work in Pyro? I have been using hangars in Pyro for security reasons, but tried a pad today due a long queue and the refinery didn't see my ship. I don't know if it's a Pyro thing, or a "this patch" thing, I haven't tried in Stanton.

[ripe grail]

For mining should I continue to mine on cellin or should I mine in halo

[sharp swift]

Depends, what is your goal?

[atomic apex]

hmm i didnt know pad thing... but if it doesnt work in pyro still cant use it for ice

[ripe grail]

Money

[rough haven]

@mild pumice what is the value of the tractor on a vulture? I just replaced mine to 2 cinch 2 abrades.

[sharp swift]

Pyro: tin & ice

[mild pumice]

It's handy if you bump a ship and need to stabilize it, that's all really.

well unless you wanna box boxes with it or something but not something I have ever used it for

I only ever use the cinch now for artistic creativity (the likes of a 4yr old I might add)

[wise halo]

2 hours following regolith hopping around different high % locations for Ice and haven't found a single I-type asteroid or 1660 signature. wtf.

[vestal ravine]

The Regolith site shows the various highest percentages of Pressurized Ice in Pyro. Based on that info here is where I'll be mining for the event: The RBA's of Sierra, Cook and Ultra. Also near Terminus CAJ-445. Good luck!!

[mild pumice]

found some prior artwork

[rough haven]

@mild pumice The only ship I strip these days are 890's (endless supply over Microtech). My box B*tch has his own tractor on a cargo ship 😄

[orchid void]

with the current copper/corundum prices is it better to mine -> refine -> sell them at TDD or to use them to complete the missions?

[sharp swift]

Complete missions then sell to players or vendor. At least that's what I'm doing because I want to do the quests

and get the paints

[ripe grail]

Tried that, found 0 anywhere, ice I easily found but tin is nowhere, I've tried all the planets and moons with high tin chance and nothing

[sharp swift]

Could've been picked over. Or something is wonky w/ the server since I was just mining and couldn't find anything in Stanton space. Had to hop servers to find stuff.

[ripe grail]

Tin isn't found in stanton

Only In pyro

Unless you buy it from magnus

[sharp swift]

Correct, I was mining for Corundrum, but just sharing the info that in the less lucrative system (where presumably there are less people) I was also not finding anything on my scans on one server so I had to hop

[hollow aspen]

filled up my mole with tin relatively easily yesterday on Bloom surface

[vestal ravine]

Good spots for Tin is on Bloom, Fuego, Pyro 4, and Adir...

[ripe grail]

I looked on pyro 4, Adir and Fuego with no luck, kept getting beryl with aluminum

[wise halo]

where were you finding Ice? I found Tin at locations near Shepard's Rest near mountains, but not actually at SR or you might get PVP

[vestal ravine]

The Regolith site shows the various highest percentages of Pressurized Ice in Pyro. Based on that info here is where I'll be mining for the event: The RBA's of Sierra, Cook and Ultra. Also near Terminus CAJ-445. Good luck!!

[oak hatch]

i just lost 3.5 million cause the damn cargo won't load

[ripe grail]

Near ruin station

[sharp swift]

There is a mining cargo work around if that was your issue

[oak hatch]

i was doing commodity trading

told the station to load it to my hull C, flew there, and it just said transfer complete while nothing is on my ship

and I lost all the cargo and money

[vivid river]

stow it then call it back

[oak hatch]

did that too

the cargo aren't even in station inventory

[vivid river]

:/ oof sorry to hear that then

[oak hatch]

it's just gone

welp

back to priority grinding

[mild pumice]

Never trust the Hull C

[oak hatch]

it was working all day yesterday

made like 8 million and got myself a new ship

[sonic fiber]

Hull c is a gamble

[mild pumice]

Impressive tbh, it's only ever cost me money

I've done a few of the large hauling missions with it but had various issues with those too

[quick narwhal]

Okay guys, I got started in mining for the first time. I was mining conundrum on eutrupe and making decent. Where are other hot locations/materials

[hoary hinge]

https://regolith.rocks

[quick narwhal]

Yes i have been using this, but what else is selling alot, that's not super hard to find?

[hoary hinge]

you mean for SoD?

[sharp swift]

Pyro: Tin & Ice
Stanton: Copper & Corundrum

[quick narwhal]

Thanks

[sharp swift]

These are Quantanium tier until the end of SoD

[quick narwhal]

What does SoD stand for ?

[sharp swift]

Supply or Die

[quick narwhal]

The event?

Oh okay sick

[sharp swift]

Yeah, I think it'll last till the end of the month

You might also be able to sell the mats to other players at an inflated cost if it is still hard to buy them due to low stock

[quick narwhal]

One more thing,, do you have to send your ship down in elevator or can I take the bags off and use the freight elevator?

[pearl juniper]

Send the ship down. The refinery only recognizes mining ships

[fast pasture]

is there a workaround for not beeing able to uload refinery cargo?

[sharp swift]

Yes

[quick narwhal]

Ah okay, I keep calling back up my prospector and it keeps coming uo in the ground smh

[sharp swift]

claim a ship, send ONE refinery job to it, send ship up, go to whereever

[pearl juniper]

Calling from the hangar instead of lobby usually avoids that

[fast pasture]

ah, then im fucked then since i have two orders on mine

[pearl juniper]

Once it's stuck, no. Supposedly it's caused by the ship being auto stored if you leave the hangar with it out.

So manually store and wait for it to go down before leaving

[fast pasture]

like seriously how is this not insta patched, its you know a core gamplay loop

[fast pasture]

yeah ill do that in the future

[tall vigil]

What am I missing here? I am using the strongest mining head with modules that should increase even further the power of the mining head and yet every single asteroid is marked as impossible?

[hoary hinge]

Some rocks need multiple lasers on them, they are intended for group play

[tall vigil]

So which rock should I be looking for? I'm not noticing much of a difference between the types

[hoary hinge]

You need to develop a sense of what mass*resistance your setup can manage

[sharp swift]

The challenge rating is not 100% accurate. You can get danger close to increase power at the risk of damage. You can also EVA out to attack gadgets onto the rocks to make them easier targets

That said, 43.7k is a huge rock for a solo

I've done 30k+ solo on a helix 2, and 15k~ w/ hofstede...so a duo could crack that

[hoary hinge]

This just in: MMO game designed for multiple players

[tall vigil]

I mean, it is certainly as convoluted as a lot of MMOs are

[hollow aspen]

how much tin u got? i got some ice. maybe we can make some quick money together

[regal tide]

Do all mining modules stack?

[random pollen]

is there a trick to get Prospector and Mole bags to not glitch/fall through the elevator?

[hoary hinge]

no

[ivory sierra]

In terms of salvage any good places for panel scrapping

I used to know places but not sure if they're still even there

[hoary hinge]

Terminus belt
Yela Belt
Aaron belt but it's less convenient

[ivory sierra]

Thanks

[regal tide]

I can't seem to bring up my Atls and only that vehicle is there away to unbug this?

[hoary hinge]

do it from the hangar, not the ASOP lobby

[indigo patio]

hey! i need to farm the arc L4 rocks. but where excatly is it. is it around the arc l4 station?

[regal tide]

I am doing it from the hanger can't call it from the ASOP lobby nothing happens but I have no issues with anything else

[edgy shadow]

Any known good ice locations in pyro?

[cedar ledge]

Any gem miners around? Need some advice/assistance... 🙂

sc-tradetools says Hadanite is 399k (I'm presuming per SCU could be reading this wrong) at Seraphim Station
Mine 59% of a 2SCU Stor*All so I am presuming I have 1scu + extra
Get to Seraphim and sell to Admin (I don't think there is another place to sell ore at stations is there?)
Sell Max Amount for only 199k when I should have been getting 399k for 1scu + whatever for the extras
What is going wrong here? I am obviously reading sc-trade tools page wrong...

first time selling hadanite as finally they fixed ROC mining and it's all working now!

[rich berry]

I would say 35k mass its doable. But depending on the composition. Gadgets are a must as they help a lot. But if you are playing on a Mole, i would sugest having one of the side mining arms ser up for smaller rocks, as the main one will be too strong.

[spare cloud]

A Sabir gadget would definitely help here, but not sure it'd be enough.

[rich berry]

I normally take 2 Sabir and 2 optimax for mining. Sometimes i forget to pick them up lol.

[spare cloud]

I often forget

I also run with Sabir and Optimax

Sabir is the best to help with tough rocks

Optimax is helpful too, but it's mostly for the Cluster bonus I use it

[rich berry]

Same here. Especially for this event when i am trying to focus

[ripe grail]

I run Saber and sometimes if the rocks good enough I. Use that one module to split the rock more evenly

[spare cloud]

That's Optimax

60% cluster bonus

[hollow sedge]

you can hand in more SCU than has been requested for a mission e.g. supply or die right?

example: it asks for 6 SCU, but you have 2 x 4 SCU containers

[royal hamlet]

Yes. And usually you’ll receive the difference in your storage, you won’t lose that excess.

[hollow sedge]

cheers, couldn't remember! 🙌

[mild pumice]

my first reclaimer run, 20scu RMC and 80scu CM - unloading it was the hardest part lol

I guess the salvage hold is useless since there's no grid anyway? And it's a pain sending the boxes through anyway

[zenith hearth]

Unloading a reclaimer is always fun lol

[mild pumice]

it wasn't too bad but I think I will just print 8s next time instead of 16s

just a shame the cargo lift is so small, like be nice if there was a bigger lift in the salvage hold (unless I'm missing something)

[zenith hearth]

Nope, I agree. It would be nice to have a bigger lift and doorways

To the lift

[mild pumice]

cool I had a bit more RMC than I though, brought it all to checkmate and was enough for 3 small contracts so 1.2 mil for my morning's work 🙂

[vestal ravine]

I will be happy to show you some pointers on using the rear drop chute if you want. I use it every time no blow ups yet. Scrapped a M2 last night could only get 29 RMC off it with the Trawlers.

[velvet snow]

Is ice the same type of by-resource as tin that if it's not in one rock of a cluster it's not in any of the cluster?

[vestal ravine]

Ice is pretty rare and has a numerical score of 1660 and multiples of that number. It is an I Type asteroid. Once you find one there is a lot of yield since it does not have a lot of by products.

[velvet snow]

I found tin rocks pretty wild having 0% instability and resistance

[mild pumice]

Yeah it seems RMC rate is quite low, tbh I might RMC with my vulture and just use the Reclaimer for munching. I think I could have got about 30scu off the HH I was scraping

Any reason to use the chute tho? I can just carry it straight to the lift?

[velvet snow]

Is ice more commonly found in asteroid clusters in space or on planet surfaces? I've been scanning around on Terminus, but haven't found any so far

[vestal ravine]

You need to open all the ports from the pilots seat then I align the 16's horizontally to fit in that tight gap where the chute opening is. If they get twisted pull back out and get the box level again. It gets easier the further away from the chute you are. Leave some working space by the chute also. Park the rear of the Reclaimer as close as you can by the elevator. If the crates get locked up use VTOL to shake them loose to the floor.

[vestal ravine]

The Regolith site shows the various highest percentages of Pressurized Ice in Pyro. Based on that info here is where I'll be mining for the event: The RBA's of Sierra, Cook and Ultra. Also near Terminus CAJ-445. Good luck!!

[mild pumice]

thanks I'll check it out, I need to orientate myself with the turrets as well since I got attacked by a couple of small fighters on the last claim, no biggy I could just jump away but would have been nice to shoot them down and munch them too lol. I need to bring my buddy along next time

[vestal ravine]

I've been attacked a few times by smaller ships I just fly away and jump. The Eclipse or Tali can be deadly however.

[velvet pasture]

how much would you guys sell corundum for per scu?

[limpid sluice]

The rewards for the copper/corundum contracts are:

Small (13scu/13scu) for 391k auec (15,038 auec per scu handed in)

Medium (94scu/94scu) for 3 Mil auec (15,957 auec per scu handed in)

Large (334scu/334scu) for 13 Mil auec (19,461 auec per scu handed in)

So it's worth 15k to 19k per scu, depending on which contract is being done. Decide from there what you wanna sell it for?

[velvet pasture]

I see

I dont know why i see many people selling for more

[quartz vessel]

Felt that LMAO

Manual unloading is agony.

[quartz vessel]

Desperation.

[limpid sluice]

If you get 1 material for free somehow, it might be worth paying more. The math I did was just assuming equal worth of both

[mild pumice]

It wasn't too bad in the end, I do a lot of hauling missions so my mouse wheel is worn smooth lol

[quartz vessel]

It's classic marketing 101. The demand for those two has pretty much skyrocketed so people don't mind slashing a little of their profit on the contract if it means they can get it done faster and start a new one.

It's likely possible that people buying said materials aren't buying all of it but rather a quantity they're missing.

[mild pumice]

Yeah some people have a lot of the other commodities left over from when it was cheap so just want to get the other at whatever cost to get the points.

I did a straight swap with someone here Tin vs Ice as we both had opposite stuff

[velvet pasture]

I see

[mild pumice]

I had 512 ice so swapped 256 vs 256 Tin, banked me a cool 26mil plus change

[velvet pasture]

ill just sell for 19k then

[mild pumice]

I dumped them all out on the floor and used the ATLS to shunt them. I loaded them all into a Maxlancer and took them to Pyro, was enough for 3 contract so 1.2mil plus still have like 40cm left

I'm going to take the Vulture out and get some more RMC

[quartz vessel]

20/80 was enough for a contract?

Huh...I remember the RMC CM contracts being a lot bigger.

[mild pumice]

7 / 14 for the 391k mission

I actually had a few extra RMC

[quartz vessel]

Did you do multiple salvage runs or pile it off-grid in the Vulture?

[mild pumice]

When I salvage in the Vulture I usually fill the back about 20 boxes and 13 in the buffer

[vivid river]

@zenith hearth so in the beginning there was a dedicated salvo door that would lower but it's functionality was discarded later and we were left with this mess of a ship that barely lets 8 and 16 scu through its doors

[mild pumice]

Hopefully it gets some love at some point, it's probably at the back of a very long conga line tho lol

[vivid river]

My guess as well

[zenith hearth]

They took something beautiful from us. Although I came late to the party so I never got to enjoy that freedom

[vivid river]

Handful of patches ago the 8 an 16 crates were a smidge easier to get through
Dunno what happend

[zenith hearth]

But yeah maybe if we make enough noise they'll revert it or better. I mean we are still waiting for the Droids

I can squeeze the 16 in the Slavo Hold but it is a tight squeeze

[vivid river]

I was late too, this is all second hand info but trust worth if you look at the back of salvo processing

[zenith hearth]

I spend more time rearranging it to fit it through lol

[vivid river]

I think they are waiting on some ship parts first from other ship as well as ai to be in since they need to add that anyways

Ima just stick to 4scu annoying as it is

[signal pilot]

What's the deal with mining rocks not being scannable all the time? Is there a work around or do I just keep leaving them? I'll find one that works eventually but so far today I've had to pass up a few groups because they were not scannable

[atomic apex]

guys i thought they fixed the cargo stuck issue. but today my friend just picked her refined items to c2. and cargo was stucked inside grids again. we lost lots of refined ice. how can we fix or at least prevent this bug?

[quartz vessel]

Soo off grid. Gotcha.

[rough haven]

I think I max out at 35 boxes in a Vulture, last couple take some wriggling.

too much effort beyond that.

@mild pumice are you salvaging right now?

[mild pumice]

yeah just munched this lol

[mild pumice]

yeah I don't do extra effort tbh

bugged the buffer reverted after QT back to base :/

ffs server meshing

[sullen sentinel]

What is the max that can fit in the vulture? 25 boxes plus 13 in buffer?

[rough haven]

40 if you REALLY push it I think

[ripe grail]

Bug, not really a way to fix it, some people say shoot the rocks but that don't work for me, I just did asteroid mining instead

[signal pilot]

thank you @ripe grail

[royal hamlet]

How "easy" is it to salvage solo in a Reclaimer?

[rough haven]

easy enough, just a pain running around the ship

[mild pumice]

reasonably, but better with a crew

[rough haven]

@mild pumice gimme a shout if you need crew, I'm free for a few hours.

[mild pumice]

I'm good thanks but appreciate the offer, no point continuing if it's going to bug out though

[royal hamlet]

And with a Reclaimer, how quick can you salvage for the $3M or $13M contracts for the event?

Because the Vulture seems like it would take a while.

[rough haven]

Vulture can get 200 SCU of salvage in about 2hours 30 if you have a constant supply of ships. the Construction materials are a pain in a vulture.

[mild pumice]

I would say 1 session with a small crew (1-2hrs) for the 3m and a half day or more to do the 13m

[rough haven]

reclaimer is pretty quick to get the construction materials but the pain is unloading.

[royal hamlet]

I'm surprised there's no medium salvage ship.

[rough haven]

I hope its an Argo, I might upgrade my Vulture pledge if its decent.

going to lose out on my pirate skin on my Vulture sad noises

a Vulture can strip over 70 SCU of RMC off an 890j, so you'll need to strip 3 to get enough for the 13m mission.

[royal hamlet]

That’s also if you can find 3 x 890j’s

[rough haven]

easy peasy, I even get paid 90k for each instead of paying for it.

all PERFECTLY legal to boot!

[royal hamlet]

Oh, is that because you have a high salvage rep?

[rough haven]

nope

because I've a pointy stick and willing to use it.

[limpid sluice]

Honestly, I'm a bit irked that we got the Fortune and now an RSI salvage starter announced, but no medium salvage or Reclaimer rework

[royal hamlet]

No clue what that means, but I want that stick lol

[royal hamlet]

Yeah, I was surprised as well.

[orchid void]

Imagine me seeing all those salvage ships, all I'm waiting for is new mining ships ;-;

[royal hamlet]

Isn’t mining in a decent place for ships?

[quartz vessel]

Really need medium salvage and mining ships that are middle of the line in terms of cost...

Instead of fricking 32mil a piece.

Still also waiting for the MSR to actually be useful for something.

[orchid void]

well there's two

[limpid sluice]

Understandable, but at least the mole is decently usable. Imagine you had to spend 30 mins pulling all the ore out

[orchid void]

ye I can definitely relate to that with my reclaimer

[quartz vessel]

You'll have to, after it's refined.

[rough haven]

@royal hamlet pm'ed you

[quartz vessel]

Loading and unloading is pain.

[rough haven]

MSR is a great little ship to offload the contents of my Vulture to 😄

[limpid sluice]

Loading/unloading refined stuff isn't bad at all. Have you unloaded a reclaimer recently?

[quartz vessel]

Yup.

[limpid sluice]

Then you know it's nowhere near as easy

[quartz vessel]

Also managed to fall through the unloading chute and get stuck inside a crate of RMC too.

So yay.

[rigid crescent]

is it possible to autoload a ship from your own inventory, i have a couple of hundred 1 scu boxes from the vulture

[orchid void]

good luck soldier

[quartz vessel]

Good...luck is all I can say...

[rigid crescent]

thats a no then lol, oh well its a chill session when i move it

[vivid river]

Bruh you got know idea

[mild pumice]

anyone else have anm issue after you put boxes on the cargo grid of the reclaimer you can't move them again?

This ship is one bug after another lol

well at least you can sell them to TDD so wasn't a waste, 140k for little effort lol

[flint forge]

pfff 160 to move 300 cargo doesnt seem worth it, i can do more lower rank quests with the same amount of drop offs that earn more... they really need to update the hauling job worth......

[mild pumice]

yeah it would be fine if all party members got the pay then you could do them as a crew.

The whole hauling setup needs a rework, it was good for proof of concept but too many things don't add up, once you get to Senior you can see it's really not worth grinding anymore plus it gets a pain to sift through hundreds of missions.

[flint forge]

one should be paid per SCU x distance

[mild pumice]

thing is these will be on backlog now for years whilst they work on the events and other things

Just do the ones you enjoy, I still do little local loops but the high SCU ones are more trouble than they're worth tbh, well except the Hull C ones, when they work 700k is a nice pay day.

I will ocasionally do a Senior 3 drop haul, they pay 330k ish for 3 drops, they take around 1hr so as you say you can stack 6 of the small missions and do that quicker lol

[flint forge]

theres like 8-9 90-100k missions with the same 4 drop off points that you can do within the same hour, just more box management

[rich berry]

The reclaimer does need a rework, taking in account that 70% of the ship volume its used by the salvage system that was scrapped. And could have a bit more cargo, and making unloading easier, as its almost a nightmare to unload it.

[vivid river]

Move a different box that's next to it, one of them is locking that one in place. Usually the one touching it

[mild pumice]

All the boxes were stuck 😐

[vivid river]

.-. Can't help that then

Oof

[mild pumice]

Even ones not touching, as soon as one was placed it could not be moved again

I think maybe related to the other stuck cargo bug

I've updated the IC

[ripe grail]

how many refinery order do yall normally do before selling, my cargo ship is a taurus

[weak tinsel]

when claiming refinery order the terminal showed my RAFT twice
i chose the first one and when i went back to retrieve the ship it had no cargo
is the cargo gone or is there some way to get it back ?

and if i see this again is there any way to know what ship should i click ?

[spare cloud]

Try storing and retrieving the ship again

On a trading terminal, you know which one to select because the picture of your ship appears, but on a refinery terminal I never heard about this before

[weak tinsel]

okey will do

[orchid void]

Are there bigger ships to salvage in pyro than in stanton?

[molten falcon]

same if you reach the risky ones, got the big ones on both sides

[orchid void]

alr

[ripe grail]

I'm hoping with or after the vehicle mining, they increase sell prices for some ores, like I get t1 are common and all that but like rn it's more profitable to do cargo hauling or sell drugs, bounty hunting is the only thing less money wise rn

[hollow sedge]

is the Fortune hopper 12 or 13?

[mild pumice]

Pretty sure it's 12 (I was wrong) doh

[craggy tapir]

what are the best heads for the mole?

its 13

same as vulture

it can hold 12 outside

[mild pumice]

Yep just checked https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/engineering/20417-Q-A-MISC-Fortune

It's 13

[royal hamlet]

Not sure which is best but I see often Helix II, Hofstede and Impact (I imagine the 2's).

[weak tinsel]

heads are really personal i run helix 2 on main and stock on sides

[royal hamlet]

Here's a video with a suggestion: https://youtu.be/eBTuNGm_W-0?si=p9uQJwvfUT3_EruT

[royal hamlet]

That's where I'm struggling to understand how it's personal vs practical. I've been looking into which heads to get and because I don't understand what goes into mining (resistence, etc) I'm still not sure what to take. Would there not be a preference based off larger rocks and smaller rocks, and having that flexibility?

[weak tinsel]

More Mass = more power
More resistance % = that % less power
instability = power gets stacked in batches that are a little bigger or smaller, just the green bar filling in bursts, really high instability are really big bursts really hard to controll
Inert filtration = unimportatn/useless imo, just dont mine large batches of innert

did i miss anything of importance?

oh one more
window size = how much error you get for the bar to fill

the personal stuff comes in what you like
i do not care for stability since i do not mine quantanium and even when i do i can manage it
i care for power since solo mining i can crack 20k mass 30% resistance or around that
i dont care for optimal window size since i am patient and enjoy plaing with the power bar, my green zone is maybe 3% of the total

[orchid void]

I run one helix 2 with two riegers C3 and a stampede
and 2 Hofsteed 2 with a Focus III + Torrent III and Torrent III + Rieger C3

[weak tinsel]

so with that i run this setup and i enjoy it the most

[royal hamlet]

First off, a big thank you @weak tinsel for this information and breaking it down.

[weak tinsel]

if i were to mine with ppl i prolly would swap the other heads but i only use them to crack the smaller cracks that are 1500 mass or below since the helix is just too much work

[royal hamlet]

Secondly, I've seen Impact 2 mentioned a few times. Any good/bad with that? Would having 1 x Helix 2, 1 x Hofstede 2, and 1 x Impact 2 cover most aspects? or same same but different?

[royal hamlet]

What would you swap them to?

[weak tinsel]

idk didnt really pay attention
i dont play with random ppl so i would just get the preference of my friend
if it was for me and there was a helix i would go for the hofstede since it has a -res bonus and other nicer

the third head just max out filtration of innert if i have a good crack with innert just to min max

[royal hamlet]

Ok sweet. And what's all the other stuff like "Rieger C3" that connect to the heads?

[weak tinsel]

head modules that modify a % value of the base head value or just add their %

https://redmonstergaming.com/mining-cheat-sheets/
site with spreadsheets for gear
and the ore data is ok but a lil outdated

modules and heads

form that site

a more up to date database regarding the ore location and distribution
https://regolith.rocks/

dont mind the AI graphics they have solid stuff and no one to do art

[royal hamlet]

Ya I'm not looking for fancy art, just good information 🙂

This is awesome. Much appreciated!

One last thing. I've seen that people carry little devices that they manually place on rocks to help crack. I suppose that's the just of it? And some carry different modules and/or heads in case they need to switch on the fly? Recommended?

[weak tinsel]

you can now attach fresh modules to the head to replace the used ones
its again something i dont do but saves time that you would spend flying to a station to fit the module with the ship modding screen

the hand held ones are also on the red monster site
they are worth only when you have a realllly nice rock to crack and are missing a little power or it has a bit too much resistance
they cost 20k to i think 50k auec and are easily launched into outer space when the rock brakes since they detach
but if not launched they can be retrieved and reused
i fiddled with them for some time but find it not worth my time
they are a fun little thing to try out

for the funny part there is a video of a bunch of dudes cracking a 35k mass rock with the lil rover by using like a 100 of the modules and making the green zone 100% of the power bar

[royal hamlet]

lol that would be cool to try. and expensive.

I'm also looking forward in using the ROC to mine in 4.1. It's nice to see that you'll have to use that to mine specific ore for ground vehicles. Helps change up the game loop.

[weak tinsel]

imo its still going to be eh but its nice they are adding stuff
just hope it works

[royal hamlet]

"just hope it works" should be an official CIG t-shirt lol

[weak tinsel]

more like this

now here is example of broken
i poses one pisces
and one RAFT
already today i have voided a whole order since the RAFT doubled and i have no idea which one is the real one

[royal hamlet]

Can you send another screenshot as-to what you're seeing? What do you mean by "doubled"?

[weak tinsel]

well the ship is displayed twice in the Receive Order
and selecting one will void cargo and the other maybe will give it to the ships grid who knows

[spare cloud]

I don't understand what's the use of an Impact especially with the "hit big" modules of the Helix, just use the Helix. This is a solo loadout guide, so the purpose of combining lasers doesn't work here.
I'd replace it with a low power head and modules to lower inert materials. Hofstede with double FLTR-XL

[weak tinsel]

and here is the its personall bit

[royal hamlet]

Oh, I see. You're talking about commodities and auto-loading. Ya sorry, unfortunately I don't have the answer for you.

[spare cloud]

I don't think so.
I think both the Helix and Impact are oriented into breaking fat rocks, which makes little purpose on a solo loadout where you'll be using only one head at once.

The personal part is more my 2nd sentence, with the Hofstede FLTR choice

[weak tinsel]

im doing that and it works for me

tho i dont use the impact but the non uses counterpart

[royal hamlet]

Can I install modules onto a head and swap out the head only if/when I want to modify the MOLE for multi-crew or solo mining?

[weak tinsel]

after swapping the head it will strip the mods so gotta redo it but you can swap it whenever you are at a station

no equipment is permanent
only exception is rentals they cannot be modified

so now there is once again 2 rafts and i have no idea which is real
and also i need to relog cuz the terminal broke

[royal hamlet]

Looks to me there's one option, the white text. The greyed out "Argo RAFT" seems to be in the background but I could be wrong.

[weak tinsel]

nah its just one more option in the menu and it only shows 2 ships and once

[royal hamlet]

Judging by the fact the white text has the black background that covers the "Collect" button whereas the second one doesn't.

[weak tinsel]

now thats funny

do i need to char repair ?

everything is 2x
mole and pisces i own raft is rented

[royal hamlet]

I would try another location or exiting the game then returning before a character repair, IMO. Just to see if it's the location that's bugged or session.

[spare cloud]

Greatly depends if you're running solo or crewed.
For a crewed one, having multiple very powerful lasers is interesting to crack rocks a solo couldn't do.

For a solo, other than the very much needed Helix, it's hard to say what's best, but I believe my loadout covers most things.
I'm running the Helix with 2 Rieger-C3 and a Surge. You can go with Rieger Stampede Surge for crazy power, I don't because I don't like using two modules at once.
On the sides I have a Hofstede with two Focus III to achieve the lowest power possible but I rarely ever crack rocks this weak. (You could go even lower power with Focus I).
And the other I use the most with the Helix, a Hofstede with FTLR-XL to crack most of what the Helix is too strong for, and lower the inert materials as much as possible.

Sabir and Optimax gadgets are also excellent to crack rocks more easily or get better cluster factor.

[royal hamlet]

Good information as well. I definitely have enough info to go out and buy some components. Once I get started with mining I'll learn and understand better and can adjust accordingly.

Now for the real question, which paint is the coolest on the MOLE? The orange is cool, and looks great with the RAFT in orange.

[spare cloud]

Helix and Hofstede are in 95% of the loadouts if not 100, so start by grabbing that, and see how it goes before making your choice for the 3rd head and modules

I would still grab a Rieger C3 and Surge for the Helix, leave the 3rd slot free before making your choice too.

[spare cloud]

Carbon

[weak tinsel]

Orang best

[royal hamlet]

I might just grabbed a third module anyway and buy another one if I need. I would rather have it than not while I'm mining. I hate missing stuff.

I did purchase the February lovesense paint for the RAFT, so, I maybe should get the matching one for the MOLE? lol

[royal hamlet]

I checked online and the carbon is only purchasible with the special edition ship. Or can you buy the paint on its own?

[spare cloud]

You can't

[wise halo]

I'm attempting to deliver one of the 6 tin and 6 ice contracts and this is what my screen looks like? wtf do I do

[spare cloud]

Confirm

[wise halo]

That isn't very reassuring

I've done other hauling missions in the past and it just shows what I'm supposed to deliver - is this different because I can submit any size? How do I get the extra back?

[near swallow]

Extra resources submitted will be reboxed and stored in the warehouse from what I've seen

[near swallow]

The only Mole paint that's been available to buy, as far as I've seen, is the one that shows up for Coramor. And you just missed that, so may have to wait till next year to get it.

[royal hamlet]

Yeah, it's scary at first but for these event missions it'll complete no problem. Contracted hauling missions though, usually those you want to see them in green since they provide you with the exact sizes and amounts.

[royal hamlet]

Oddly enough there are no paints in the store, not even the others I've seen online in starcitizen.tools. Anyway, the orange is still 🔥 so I'll be fine with that.

Maybe there will be a St. Patty's day paint event....

[near swallow]

The other paints, that were actual paints, were apparently in the Subscribers store once upon a time. But aren't anymore.

[royal hamlet]

Ahhh... Gotcha.

[near swallow]

It seems the Mole Talus is available in the incredibly expensive Legatus pack though.

[hoary hinge]

Two days, two trips to Adir , two prospectorfulls with like 70% tin ore, and both times on arrival at Ruin I have 0/0SCU in my bags
Gotta claim the ship to be able to collect ore again

Both times I did stop at another station on the way back to refuel. I wonder if storing/retrieving the prosector glitched the ore bags

Does anyone know anything about this bug/issue?

[near swallow]

Because it's a prospector, I have to wonder, are you running Mole bags?

[simple cape]

I need friends so I can play this game. Solo flying is too quiet. I want to be mining rocks while 'jimmy' is telling us stories about the first time he picked a lady up at a bar, but she was actually an alien.
Also I am terrible at mining. I can never find the good rocks.

[hoary hinge]

I am not, I'm using stock MISC bags

[near swallow]

No idea then, had no issues on a mining trip in Pyro with my Mole. Though I didn't find all that much ice to mine.

[hoary hinge]

I wonder if it's similar to the bug last patch where when you bring a ship up the elevator the cargo's gone, so you have to put it down and up again to fix.

I'll try tonight to refuel when I arrive at Gaslight, rather than when I'm leaving

[near swallow]

For refueling only stops, you don't have to store the ship, you can just refuel and leave

Also, there is a keybind for mining ships to jettison your cargo

[hoary hinge]

tried that on the weekend, immediately saw my qfuel drop from 99% to 28%, dropped outta quantum and went back to refuel properly

Are you saying that the % is wrong, and i've still got the fuel?

[near swallow]

I haven't had that bug occur much, when it does though, yeah you want to store/retrieve

[hoary hinge]

yeah that's why I've been just assuming it

[near swallow]

You should be able to see your quantum fuel level by just switching in to NAV mode in the hangar

[hoary hinge]

which was displaying at 99% unti I crossed a shard boundary

[near swallow]

That may be a different bug

There's been issues syncing fuel across server boundaries since server meshing started

[hoary hinge]

desync between shards is also why some people drop out of quantum randomly

[hoary hinge]

yeah that one; it's fixed by storing/retrieving ships because it seems to force sync the fuel levels

[near swallow]

When the refueling bug happened to me, my ship was saying it was not fully refueled, the fuel interface said it was. Before leaving.

That bug was not due to a server boundary

[mild pumice]

I've been having a similar issue with salvage, the hopper is empty when I get back to base, seems like the QT fuel bug the ship's state isn't persisting correctly between servers in the mesh.

[quick narwhal]

I have materials from mining I put on my cat, that are stuck to the grid. Anything I can do?

[vivid river]

praying?
are they mining pods?

or the actual ores

[hoary hinge]

Have you found any kind of workaround?

[spare cloud]

Is it cargo you auto loaded into the ship ? Either from a refinery or trading terminal ?
There isn't a way to unstuck this cargo, but you can prevent it for the future.
Mainly by not using auto load
If you have no choice but to auto load like at a refinery, do so in a freshly claimed ship, and once you took the ship out, never let the game auto store it. Always store it yourself manually, and wait for it to be stored before leaving the hangar.
You may be able to auto unload the cargo when selling it, but you won't remove it manually

[quick narwhal]

Tried to auto unloading, wouldn't work. When I click to claim the mining job.
It only gives me option to put it on the ship. I wouldn't mind loading it. But how do you do it?

[mild pumice]

For salvage you can print the boxes but that's not going to be any use for mining sadly. Hopefully they hotfix it soon. Fortunately it's not 100% issue but it can still burn and waste your efforts

[spare cloud]

Like I said, if it's stuff from a refinery, you can't manually load it. Refineries don't support freight elevators yet

[quick narwhal]

Oh okay, so it just something that's gonna happen

[spare cloud]

Not if you always use a freshly claimed ship

[simple cape]

Fresh is best. Sounds like some kind of subway ad

[quick narwhal]

Gotcha

[sharp swift]

Anyone know if it is more/less/same efficiency to do small/medium/large SoD contracts?

in terms of accruing points for the paints

[spare cloud]

Small

You need 14 small contracts to complete the event

Which is only 6/6 SCU of tin/ice for example.
And 14/14 corundum/copper